[01:10] apachelogger: If I'm doing to changes to fix armel FTBFS, basically if it builds, it's fixed, right? [01:13] ScottK: yes [01:13] OK. [01:13] Cool. === tarun is now known as c2tarun [03:56] Hello, I need help instaling an application i've spent over 9 hours tyring to install . [03:56] http://pastebin.com/1Uz4tQEY [03:56] altera_installer_gui: cannot connect to X server :0 [04:07] ecinx: you don't use sudo with GUI apps, use kdesudo [04:08] oh [04:08] let me try that [04:09] does that look right? [04:09] kdesudo sh ./10.1sp1_quartus_free_linuxx.sh [04:10] yeah [04:12] it's starting, in a window with an X on the top left, lookes good [04:15] thanks tsimpson , a screen came up [04:16] but the destination directory says ' /root/altera/10.1 is that good? [04:16] the ' /root/ ' part? [04:16] depends what it's doing and what you want it to do [04:16] /root is root's home [04:17] I'd guess you don't need to be root to launch whatever it is, [04:17] i don't know if that sounds right though.. I'm new in linux, but I want to be able to work with the program using my username [04:17] so just run the script normally [04:17] okay [04:18] on secon thought space req is 5.6g space available is 8.3g [04:19] my home has about 40g+ free i would rather instal it there [04:29] Riddell, apachelogger: I think I fixed the sip problem in bindings, but then http://paste.ubuntu.com/568591/ happened. [04:29] I'm pushing to bzr and going to bed, so please have a look. [04:36] it's installing i installed it into /home/apps/altera apps being a newly created folder since /home/ has over 50gb free while / has only 8gb free and the install is 6gb [04:38] ScottK: line 3886 [04:44] tsimpson: My 3886 says "In file included from /usr/include/python2.7/Python.h:8:0," [04:44] ? [04:44] yeah, I didn't mean that line, then I lost the line I did mean [04:45] lines 5223 & 5224 [04:45] make[3]: *** [CMakeFiles/python_module_PyKDE4_kdeui.dir/sip/kdeui/sipkdeuipart3.o] Error 1 [04:45] make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... [04:46] it's much easier to see those when you don't use -j with make [04:46] nixternal ping-a-ling [04:47] Yesh. [04:47] tsimpson: Thanks. [04:47] no problem :) [04:47] I guess that didn't work on fixing sip. [04:47] Hard to believe it went on for another 11,000 lines. [04:48] Thanks. [04:48] Oh, said that already. [04:48] Another sign I should be going to sleep. [04:48] Good night. [04:52] I've successfuly installed it, It ran after the installation finish but after i closed it i don't know how to open it again. I ran quartus and alt f2 and typed 'quartus' in the terminal and it didn't run [04:54] ecinx: the system doesn't know where to find it, you need to give the full path [04:55] or edit the applications menu by right-clicking the launcher icon and choosing "Menu Editor", then you can create a link in there [04:56] hmm nice tip [04:56] but i dont even know where the app is [04:57] the directory is full of stuff and folders [04:58] i think i found it, wiht google === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [05:36] vorian: pong [05:36] nixternal: i have ubuntu politics [05:36] hate* [05:37] HATE! [05:37] you are who you are because of nobody else? :P [05:37] hahaha [05:37] maco: that was a good one [05:37] * nixternal jots that one down [05:37] when did we start censoring? [05:38] they pulled my damn feed off the planet [05:38] vorian: that's why I chilled from the politics side. i am going to do the me side and that's it. i want to start contributing again, but differently than before. i let myself get way to immersed in the political side and it just wore me out [05:38] and the one CC member that is awake will not respond to me [05:39] nixternal: i can understand that [05:39] i wouldn't expect them to until after all of them have had time to review [05:39] fuck the planet [05:39] i noticed like 3 changes to your blog in lp:~planet-ubuntu in the past 24 hours [05:39] oi oi, language, mate! [05:40] It's mostly wanna be's anymore (on the planet) [05:40] and sorry maco [05:40] i have to agree that the latest post doesn't belong on the planet. that's why i split my posts now [05:40] though i haven't yet for ubuntu, because i don't want to tag everything i think would be good for the planet with ubuntu [05:41] vorian: please learn to spell "poseur" [05:41] kde is different, because i only have my kde tags posted there. they don't want to read about my thunderbird ftw post or ubuntu this or that [05:41] it pisses the arch linux turds off [05:41] Well, it was aimed at matthew. he's such a tool [05:41] i just looked at your twitter and saw you calling matthew a manequin over and over [05:41] maco: my twitter? [05:41] yes where you linked to your blog [05:41] maco: if you are a skater or have been a skater, it is poser and will always be poser, because they don't believe in adding the 'u' to stuff [05:42] nixternal: i just assumed that was punk kids being crappy spellers [05:42] ah [05:42] whoops [05:42] (and i don't mean that in the fire-engine-red or electric-blue hair sense :P) [05:42] there is a diff between "posers" and "poseurs" [05:43] hahaha [05:43] haha [05:43] this is why i <3 kubuntu [05:43] yeah, posers are people who do 3d rendering [05:43] rofl [05:43] unless of course you are a sk8r [05:44] geeze, mike is not responding at all to my /queries [05:45] nixternal: i used to have fire-engine-red hair [05:46] i can't picture you with that [05:46] time to play some golf i think. i have messed with .htaccess until i am blue in the face tonight [05:47] nixternal: aren't you on the CC now? [05:48] vorian: he quit [05:48] hrm [05:48] i believe persia was his replacement [05:48] maco: just for the fun of it, will you see if mike responds to you? [05:48] mike who? [05:48] ah, persia [05:49] mike == technoviking [05:49] i think he's just avoiding answering any questions [05:49] oh that mike [05:50] no answer [05:50] Riddell: what every happens - please don't kick me out of kubuntu-members [05:50] thanks for trying maco [05:57] anyone knows how to fix the way the fonts look on maverick 10.10 [06:01] i think i fixed it, i hope === hunger_ is now known as hunger [11:17] hm [11:18] ulysses++ [11:21] apachelogger: what's ulysses done? [11:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80pc9jZ_t8 [11:35] Riddell, ScottK: implicit thumb flag in phonon's rules can be dropped I presume? [11:35] apachelogger: yes [11:36] ScottK: ppc images in need of testing this weekend? [11:36] if only it were in bzr ^^ [11:54] * apachelogger hugs Tm_T === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:47] Tm_T: No. Not yet. === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 3 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | 10.04.2 testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [12:57] ScottK: ok thanks (: [13:02] apachelogger: will do ... at conf.kde.in along with Riddell and some other minions k? === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 3 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd [13:02] 10.04.2 is done. [13:02] shadeslayer: do what? [13:02] apachelogger: the app [13:02] k [13:03] ScottK: see #kubuntu for lucid->maverick upgrade problem, we need to get an updated kdepim into maverick [13:03] schedule app [13:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m44PvFs074U [13:04] Riddell: OK, but I've got some other stuff I need to get done first. [13:19] shadeslayer: hey i'll not be able to come to conf.kde.in :( college internals. will there be any video log uploaded on internet? [13:24] idk [13:24] c2tarun: dude, get internals postponed? [13:31] shadeslayer: its exams mate. :( if i'll not give that exam i'll loose my credits and hence my agregate will be affected :( [13:32] c2tarun: i'm not saying don't give them, they're internals right? you can request the college to take them seprately for you at a later date :) [13:32] any how, sorry to hear that it's not working out for you :( [13:32] shadeslayer: i'll try ;/ [13:32] :) [13:33] <-- kernel build master [13:34] aaaaannnnddd ... they *finally* released GTK3 [13:34] like they actually changed anything [13:35] apachelogger: bumped so version and added " Hey we released GTK3 after a bazillion years " to the changelog [13:35] Riddell: Can you get whoever it is in #kubuntu to file a bug so we have something to hang the SRU verification on. [13:37] ScottK: that's not "whoever" that's dfaure, the more elite KDE coder ever! [13:38] Riddell: OK. Whoever files it, we'll need a bug. [13:38] ScottK: how to file the bug such that it'll be found again? [13:38] Give me the bug number and I'll remember it. [13:39] ScottK: that's not "whoever" that's dfaure, the more elite KDE coder ever! [13:39] Riddell: more like the most elite koder with a 1000 clones of himself [13:43] ScottK: bug 721269 [13:43] Launchpad bug 721269 in kdepim-runtime (Ubuntu Maverick) "newer kdepim in lucid than in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721269 [13:43] Thanks. [13:50] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04.2-release === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:19] this channel is very boring today :/ [14:19] kubotu_: order coffee [14:19] * kubotu_ slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger. [14:19] kubotu_: why do you have a suffix? [14:19] kubotu_: rename kubotu [14:19] kubotu_: what was that command again? [14:21] apachelogger: possibly make it reconnect [14:22] well [14:22] there was a dedicated cmd for that -.- [14:22] kubotu_: save [14:22] can do! [14:22] kubotu_: restart [14:23] toldya [14:25] apachelogger: some of us have code to write! :) [14:25] and some of us have exams once again [14:26] apachelogger: what should that scheduling app do btw? [14:26] show the schedule [14:26] ultimately hooked up with launchpad so that one can list sessions that one is subscribed to [14:26] (or subscribe to new ones for that matter) [14:27] hmm.. [14:28] apachelogger: so show the sessions on a calendar ( i wonder if kontact has kparts to do this ), API calls to subscribe etc [14:29] shadeslayer: I would avoid KDE api to keep it portable for e.g. maemo ;) [14:29] Riddell: ^^ can we do that during conf.kde.in ? [14:29] hehe :) [14:30] apachelogger: also reduces KDE Deps, so can be installed without taking up alot of disk space [14:30] http://willthompson.co.uk/sojourner/ [14:30] something like that [14:31] *click* [14:31] just with actual user experience and not done in pyth0rn ;) [14:31] calendar view should help with that [14:32] apachelogger: uh .. what's calendar view? [14:32] a view of a calendar :P [14:32] i mean ... is it a Qt class?' [14:33] unlikely [14:33] shadeslayer: you should use QML :P [14:33] http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/richtext-calendar.html [14:33] otherwise you have problems with deployment to android ;) [14:33] apachelogger: yeah, i know, i'm sure we will have a code sprint wrt QML at conf.kde.in [14:34] so i guess we can pitch that idea and come up with something [14:34] ewww [14:34] that example is [14:34] ... [14:34] brrr [14:34] in need of grantlee :D [14:34] :D [15:44] ScottK: something is broken with our arm builders [15:44] they constantly do ccache stuff... [15:44] and with a kernel build that then results in the kernel wanting to build stuff with ccache it would seem [15:47] apachelogger: OK. Please fix. [15:49] ScottK: if only I knew how :S [15:51] 'lo again people [15:52] anyone seen sheytan or ofirk these days? [15:52] those guys are gone [15:52] apachelogger: Does export CCACHE_DISABLE=1 help any? [15:52] might [15:52] * apachelogger wonders why it defaults to ccache to begin with [15:53] oh [15:53] hoooray [15:53] bufferclass_ti.ko: [15:53] Running module version sanity check. [16:13] hi [17:04] ScottK: I think the old pbuilder is just crap [17:05] Could be. [17:17] Riddell, ping [17:26] hi rbelem [17:27] Riddell, i updated the patch http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/ [17:28] Riddell, when samba is not installed it shows a message and a buttom in the place of the addshare form [17:28] http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/s/612/ I might note that the dropdown looks funny [17:29] Riddell, but kpackagekit is not installing the package [17:29] apachelogger_, :-D [17:29] Riddell, i call it but it is not working [17:29] Riddell, do you have a clue? [17:30] apachelogger_, but is it looking nice? [17:31] no, it looks funny [17:31] apachelogger_, hum... funny means that i should replace the dropdown? [17:32] the dropdown looks fine to me [17:32] well [17:33] it is not so much the dropdown as the thing as a whole [17:33] rbelem: "private Q_SLOTS:" what's Q_SLOTS? [17:33] rbelem: it should look like the local permissions tab I suppose [17:34] also using same terminology for that matter [17:34] Riddell, afiestas asked me to do that [17:34] Riddell: the 3rdparty-safe kind of slots [17:34] Q_SLOTS == slots, except that former can be used in a context where another library wants to use the slots keyword [17:35] therefore libraries should always use Q_SLOTS and Q_SIGNALS [17:35] pesky other libraries stealing Qt keywords === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [17:35] * rbelem checking the permissions tab [17:36] apachelogger, hum... there is a advance permission dialog [17:36] apachelogger, that looks nice [17:36] oh gawd [17:36] no [17:37] rbelem: not by default [17:37] that makes my head spin and I am not even a regular user :P [17:37] apachelogger, hahaha [17:38] rbelem: I would go for exactly the same as with the access permission default stuff ... i.e. dropdowns with 3 entries [17:39] rbelem: possibly even restrict yourself to the standard unix categories owner/group/world [17:39] apachelogger, so it would be better to replace the words Deny, Full control and Read Only? [17:39] then have an advanced button [17:39] where you can give permission on user base and whatnot [17:39] apachelogger, hum... [17:40] having by default a per-user setup will give headaches on a shared system with >1k users [17:40] loading all those settings and storing them will kill the dialog very much and make it unusable [17:41] * apachelogger wonders whatever happened to the ACL permission ui in KDE [17:42] or do we not build with ACL support anymore? [17:42] ah [17:42] nvm [17:42] one needs to mount the partitions with ACL enabled [17:42] * apachelogger forgot about that detail ^^ [17:43] * rbelem is thinking how the ui would look [17:43] rbelem: if you enable acl for a partiton and remount you should get yet another dialog option for the ACL [17:43] that allows per-user permissions IIRC [17:43] so you might want to clone that ui for the advanced thingy [17:44] * apachelogger thinks that the local file permissions should simply be made more abstract and reused by the share tab ;) [17:44] anyhow [17:44] need to pack and leave for train [17:45] thx apachelogger :-) [17:45] Riddell, can we go for now with the current ui? :-D [17:46] rbelem: yes I think we should [17:46] just compiling it now to check the packagekit stuff [17:46] sweet :-D [17:59] Riddell: Would you please add a test case to bug 721269 [17:59] Launchpad bug 721269 in kdepim-runtime (Ubuntu Maverick) "newer kdepim in lucid than in maverick" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721269 [18:06] pesky other libraries stealing Qt keywordsmethod call sender=:1.2549 -> dest=org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon serial=145 path=/org/freedesktop/PackageKit; interface=org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Modify; member=InstallPackageNames string "No such method 'InstallPackageNames' in interface 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Modify' at object path '/org/freedesktop/PackageKit' (signature 'iasas')" [18:06] hmm [18:06] rbelem: it's on the sessionBus not the systemBug [18:06] rbelem: it's on the sessionBus not the systemBus [18:06] but there's still something wrong with the method arguments [18:07] Riddell, :-( [18:07] Riddell, have you seen danti? [18:09] he's moving country I believe [18:11] Riddell: yes, he is... very sad for Apper, cause the development slowed down ;) [18:11] Riddell, wow! where is he going? [18:12] I don't know [18:13] Odd that both he and JonTheEchnida vanished at the same time. [18:13] Maybe they met to have a packagement shootout and canceled each other out? [18:17] brb [18:20] Riddell: What is this NODM stuff? [18:20] on Todo? [18:20] Quintasan: it's a login manager for kubuntu mobile [18:20] Oh [18:20] it logs you in without and dialogue or whatever [18:21] it should go onto the mobile images once launchpad merge the task change [18:38] rbelem: meh, i can't work out [18:39] it's something to do with the qstringlist being right [18:39] QStringList interaction that's not right according to [18:39] qdbus org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon /org/freedesktop/PackageKit [18:39] it should be a list [18:39] but even then it doesn't work [18:39] patch is good to ship once that's sorted [18:39] ask on #kde-devel I guess, they should know [18:39] * Riddell out for a bit [18:41] shadeslayer: due to your dcmtk upload some packages are uninstallable: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libdcmtk1 [18:42] a rebuild should fix them [18:52] Ohhhh. I've seen this exact problem: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/6513/ [18:53] I missed something of "remember authorization" in polkit-kde-agent does not work ? [18:53] s/of/or/ [18:53] bambee meant: "I missed something or "remember authorization" in polkit-kde-agent does not work ?" [18:53] kubotu: you won a cookie [18:54] someone should really turn off this damn feature [18:54] kubotu: order cookies for kubotu [18:54] * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to kubotu. [19:11] apachelogger: can you get kubotu back in #project-neon please? [19:28] What's the var for ~/.kde ? [19:32] Daskreech: KDEHOME I think, let me check [19:32] Thansk [19:32] thanks [19:32] Daskreech: KDEHOME [19:32] http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#KDEHOME [19:32] xep, KDEHOME [19:33] Hmm [19:33] funky [19:33] in case of doubt techbase is your friend ;) [19:33] Shytlman started to do something like this at UDS-M in Belgium: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Titlebar+menu?content=138804 [19:34] granted, he was actually trying to put the menu *in* the title bar, and not as a hover thing [19:35] Heya JontheEchidna. [19:35] hi [19:36] JontheEchidna: Did I ever discuss the backports-not-automatic spec and it's implications for application install/update managers [19:37] If you did, I don't recall [19:39] JontheEchidna: OK. Short version is that one will no longer automatically upgrade to a backports version. One will have to ask for it. [19:39] So there's a need to distinguish backports update candidates from regular updates for the user. [19:39] is this change being made at the APT level? (Any tech spec sheet?) [19:39] Yes. [19:39] It's in Natty now. [19:40] Let me find the spec. [19:40] bambee: good point [19:42] JontheEchidna: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-foundations-n-backports-notautomatic [19:43] Daskreech: techbase and api.kde.org both rock :D [19:44] ScottK: how do you see those from an apt-get point of view now? pinned? [19:44] Riddell: pim and pim-runtime for Maverick uploaded. [19:44] yofel: Yes. [19:44] ok [19:45] QApt/Muon already respect pins [19:45] The big change is that apt has been fixed to correctly pull needed depdencies from the not automatic repository. [19:45] aaah, that's nice :) [19:46] JontheEchidna: Yes. The real issue I think you might want to address is in Muon showing -updates and -backports differently to the user. [19:46] It's possible a user could have updates to the same package in both and they should have some idea that -updates is fixes and -backports is new features with some incremental risk of regression. [19:48] If the package is pinned lower than the candidate version from the main repositories it will not be shown as upgradeable either [19:48] since in APT [19:48] 's eyes the pinning makes the NotAutomatic pocket packages not the candidate version [19:48] This is where I don't really understand that details (you may want to talk to mvo). [19:49] It's my understanding that both would be 'visible' fsvo visible. [19:49] yeah, I'll probably do that' [19:49] He's got ideas on how to support it in Software Center. [19:50] If I understand the tech spec, the main issue is, as you said, to be able to show more experienced users that -backports updates are available if they want them [19:50] but currently Muon will respect the pinning and not offer the -backports packages for upgrades [19:51] so this is probably more of a new feature [19:51] Yes. [19:51] It'd be nice for users to be able to see the backports as a GHNS like option. [19:51] deos [19:51] doh [19:52] Riddell: pim and pim-runtime for maverick uploaded. Waiting for your test case and ubuntu-sru to accept. [19:53] ScottK: I'll put that on the feature list for Muon 1.2. I plan on redoing the GUI of the updater app entirely, as its currently just a stripped down version of Muon. The GUI could be made much more updater-centric [19:54] Ihttp://i.imgur.com/HKT2y.png <- a bunch of that stuff would not be useful for the average person updating their system [19:54] http://i.imgur.com/HKT2y.png [19:54] ScottK: who needs to be subscribed to sync requests again? [19:55] yofel: ubuntu-archvie after they are approved by an ubunth-dev. ubuntu-sponsors to get them approved. [19:55] thx [20:02] bbiab [20:05] ok with today's daily on virtualbox i get pass the keyboard section of the install then the installer disappers [20:05] also trying to report the bug fails as rekonq still crashes everytime i launch it on the live cd [20:05] running today's daily amd 64 [20:11] Currently there's an eglibc issue on amd64 that's making all kinds of things crash. [20:15] ah [20:15] ok i guess i will wait still [22:21] yay, another armel+sip build failure: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64675210/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.qgis_1.4.0%2B12730-5ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [22:23] debfx: madness [22:45] kubotu: help config [22:45] config module - bot configuration. usage: list, desc, get, set, unset, add, rm [22:45] kubotu: config list [22:45] modules: server, http, rss, send, host, autoop, irclog, irc, wheelfortune, translator, remote, lastfm, google, nickserv, debug, factoids, wikipedia, core, markov, rejoin, log, plugins, poll, chanserv, keyword, greet, twitter, salut, auth, encoding, ri, seen [22:45] kubotu: config list irc [22:45] irc.name, irc.join_channels, irc.usermodes, irc.name_copyright, irc.nick_retry, irc.ignore_users, irc.nick, irc.user, irc.ignore_channels, irc.join_after_identify [22:47] kubotu: config get irc.join_channels [22:47] irc.join_channels: #kubuntu-devel, #kubuntu-bunker, #ubuntustudio-devel, #kubuntu-offtopic, #thecoolkids, #kubuntu-playtime [22:47] config add #project-neon to irc.join_channels [22:47] kubotu: config add #project-neon to irc.join_channels [22:47] irc.join_channels: #kubuntu-devel, #kubuntu-bunker, #ubuntustudio-devel, #kubuntu-offtopic, #thecoolkids, #kubuntu-playtime, #project-neon [22:47] kubotu: save [22:47] lemme take care of that for you [22:47] kubotu: restart [22:58] kubotu: roulette [23:18] apachelogger: thanks :) [23:18] kubotu: order cookies for apachelogger [23:18] * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger. 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