[02:35] nUboon2Age: hello [02:35] howdy duanedesign! [02:36] nUboon2Age: how have you been? [02:36] cause and effect [02:37] lifes been kinda rough frankly duanedesign. broke my arm, my gf broke up with me and continues to give me grief. My birthday is on Sunday. [02:38] dang, how'd you break your arm? [02:39] i fell off my electricycle. i'm much better now. that was more than a month ago. [02:39] nUboon2Age: sorry to hear. Had not seen you around as much lately and was thinking about you. [02:41] thank you duanedesign. i think you are awesome!!! [02:41] it was a hairline fracture and is healing up now. [02:44] wow, you must've been going fast [02:49] not really that fast, but it was rainy and slick and i made a stupid newbie mistake of turning too quickly and i slipped on a pile of wet leaves. seidos, duanedesign [02:49] it was probably 15 mi/hour or so [02:49] ugh [02:49] I have somehow managed to never break a bone [02:50] nUboon2Age: I notice you are using google wifi? [02:50] nUboon2Age: i crashed on my motorcyle once. took a turn wrong, almost ran into a divider, broke to not crash into the divider, still move, fell off. [02:51] didn't break anything though, just tore my pants, and my knee [02:55] nUboon2Age: you are in Mountain View? [02:58] yes sir duanedesign right at the moment. someday i'll get streaming going so that we can include you in Ubuntu Hour wherever you are. :-) sardonyx [02:58] seidos: ^ [03:00] aha [03:01] well that is coo, I did not know that [03:01] cool* [03:02] nUboon2Age: have you been able to make it to any Ubuntu events in the area? I know pleia and jono are in that area [03:03] nUboon2Age: *runs* lots of events! [03:03] :) [03:04] what we need are ubuntu parties. not enough ubuntu partying going on if you ask me [03:04] * pleia2 is not at his ubuntu hour tonight, for shame [03:04] actually, i should've went to that party in hollywood. not going was a fail on my part, but i'm trying to be "sustainable" [03:06] yes i create 4 Ubuntu Hours per month in Silicon Valley and i've been up to Berkeley to a Jono jam event and something that jdeslip/grantbow did and come to pleia2's Ubuntu Hour in SF. [03:06] wow, that is too awesome! [03:07] nUboon2Age: i missed you at pleia2's event. [03:07] the one that went to while i was up there [03:07] i didn't make it that mo. unfortunately seidos [03:08] i've made most of them since i started coming seidos, but missed a couple [03:08] drat. well, i will probably drive back up in May. i want to stay at abhayagiri monastery at least once [03:13] looking forward to it seidos [03:16] seidos: that sounds nice [04:48] * Geocosm strangles Virtualbox. [04:48] * JackyAlcine helps Geocosm by tying it down to a table. [04:51] I'm trying to add a "hard disc drive" for windows xp. I added it, and booted up, and windows said yey new hardwarez installz0ring. Except there's no new HDD in My Computer. [04:52] The OS "HDD" is WinXP.vdi, 10 gigs, IDE Primary Master. The drive I'm trying to add is NewHardDisk1.vdi, 20GB, IDE Primary Slave. [04:56] I originally made the drive dynamically expanding, but I'm trying to install a game and it's telling me I don't have enough space on the drive. grrr [05:01] try changing it from dynamically allocating to a fixed size drive. === ridin is now known as ridin3 [05:08] I tried that, but it crashes. It just sits there at 0% and then it turns black and white. [05:08] I still haven't figured out why things turn black and white before they crash. [05:09] Crash imminent! Must remove all colors! [05:19] =/ [05:19] Cant you tell it to custom install to the new drive assuming that it shows up in the my computer? [05:20] hello JackyAlcine [05:20] o/ [05:22] That's what I'm trying to do, Trinikrono. [05:23] Unfortunately the new drive is not showing up when I boot the virtual machine. [05:23] which game [05:23] oho [05:23] I'm trying to install Starcraft II so I can rip the files off windows and play it on Linux. [05:23] O.o [05:23] It won't install on Linux it tells me I have bad hardware. [05:24] It says it needs amd or something. Which is dumb. Because it worked just fine when I had Windows XP installed on this machine. [05:25] I found a guide on how to add a new hdd to virtualbox but it's incredibly outdated and nothing looks the same. It seems like this has been set up to be simple, but windows is being a pain about it. [05:25] Geocosm: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882 <------you run using wine ? [05:25] The first time I booted into xp it said it found the hard drive. [05:25] And it claimed to be installing it. Then it minimized to the tray and disappeared. [05:26] Geocosm: is it under comuter management [05:26] *computer [05:26] You mean add hardware? [05:26] Add Hardware lists two separate discs, and claims both are in perfect working order. [05:26] Open up My Computer -- just a C:/ drive [05:27] no [05:27] i mean right click on my computer then manage [05:27] then disk management and see what it says about partitions and stuff [05:27] you might need to intialise and format that new drive [05:29] aha! [05:31] You're a genius. [05:31] I'm a bit ashamed, I didn't even know about this. [05:32] Maybe I should join #windows-beginners lol [05:33] Geocosm: i am not sure if starcraft2 will work in a virtual box though [05:33] how do other games work for you [05:33] No I'm not running it in the VM. [05:34] I'm installing it in Windows so I can cut/paste the files into Linux and run the installer with wine. [05:34] I mean the launcher. [05:34] Geocosm: okie [05:35] I don't quite have enough ram to run games in a virtual machine. 4GB DDR3. === satamusic_ is now known as satamusic [07:58] There's a way to make wine run a program without sound, right? I tried unchecking all the drivers and I still have sound. [08:00] Also the Test Sound button says "Audio test failed!" [08:00] wine uses your sounds, I think [08:01] mute your linux sounds :D [08:01] Well I don't just want it muted. [08:01] I think the sound is what is crashing my game. [08:01] "err:mmdevapi:ACR_ReleaseBuffer Starting from 1014" [08:01] I want to disable the sound completely to see if I still crash. [08:02] http://forum.winehq.org/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=03f4021ec0dd2a5ac0719347376f82c0 [10:13] Hey Guys and Girls, I'm having some problems installing alien arena from source code. Can anyone help me? I've tried following instructions online but didn't get anywhere :( [14:10] Hello. [14:11] Hello. [14:12] Hello seidos :) [14:12] How are you ? [14:12] Hello s-fox , what's going on? [14:12] cause and effect [14:13] i am presently trying to solve euler9 [14:13] I'm alright thank you [14:13] good to hear :D [14:14] :) === JackyAlcine is now known as webjadmin === webjadmin is now known as JackyAlcine [14:35] hi! my networkmanager applet trys to find/connect to some network, but it ends saying "The network connection was terminated". When clicked, the applet shows the networks available, but i'm not able select any. I reinstall the networkmanager and the networkmanager applet, I searched the web, but i couldn't find a solution. Anyone can help? [14:38] mutsa: questions [14:38] has it ever worked? [14:38] it = that particular wifi device [14:38] and you say 'some network' [14:38] does that mean you have tried multiple access points? [14:39] if so, eleborate... [14:39] yes at beginning, but the applet use to disappear when the connection was lost, so i try to reinstall it [14:39] i dont think the applet is the issue [14:39] if memory serves [14:40] the icon changes into something else [14:40] when the wifi network disconnects [14:40] a different little picture [14:40] mutsa: IF the device used to work [14:40] and you did a system update [14:40] then, it didnt [14:40] when the network disconnects it don't change, just "close" [14:41] try rebooting [14:41] hit the shift key [14:41] and select an older kernel [14:41] see if the wifi device acts as expected [14:41] then, you'll know where to begin [14:41] hum, ok, i'll try it now, tks [14:42] mutsa: when you searched the internet did you include your wifi device's make/model? [14:43] that may prove useful in your search [14:44] @seidos no i didn't, i assumed the problem is not with the device cause in previous versions of ubuntu never had a problem [14:44] i'll try the hokstein sugestion first [14:44] tks all [14:46] too bad. there may be others with his hardware and using his version of ubuntu having the same problem [14:46] * seidos shrugs [14:50] How come #ubuntu-beginners-help is invite only? [14:50] -help?????? [14:50] a better question, why is there an #ubuntu-beginngers-help [14:50] is there one? [14:51] o.O [14:51] well, the website told me to go there [14:51] Which website? [14:51] Ricaz: because this is the channel you should come to for help [14:51] I have a printing question [14:51] there is, and it's invite-only. [14:51] aha, I just didn't see the need for both of them [14:51] javatexan: feel free to ask. if someone can answer, they will. if not, ask again later :) [14:52] anyway, I need help - I have no audio, and I've been looking for linux drivers all over, but couldn't find any [14:52] I have the network printer setup in cups and it shows up in the printer admin app. My problem is that each time I print it asks for a network user and password, is there a way to set that forever? [14:52] I have done some google searches, but no luck [14:53] Ricaz: drivers typically are built into the kernel. what sound chip? [14:53] I think I had this setup before, could an update have killed it> [14:53] javatexan: i'm not sure how much help i can be. i've used tcp/ip printers in the past, and they worked fine, without a username and password [14:53] I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure of my motherboard model: Gigabyte GA-879A-UD3 [14:53] Ricaz: open a terminal and run 'aplay -l' and 'arecord -l' [14:54] alright [14:54] you can put that info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [14:54] its the printserver here, it requires user and pass [14:54] javatexan: what is running the printserver? [14:54] a windows machine? [14:55] or is it standalone? [14:55] its a windows server === rcz is now known as Ricaz [14:55] i think you're going to want to read up on samba [14:55] Ricaz: welcome back [14:55] :D [14:55] k thanks [14:55] OR configure the server for more open-ness [14:55] forgot that my irc client was running in terminal [14:55] IF thats ok in your environment javatexan [14:56] holstein: wish I could, I really do [14:56] irssi \o/ [14:56] what were the commands again? [14:56] LOL [14:56] Ricaz: aplay -l and arecord -l [14:56] thx [14:56] aplay -l returns "no soundcards found" [14:56] same with arecord [14:56] Ricaz: pastebin lspci [14:57] or http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [14:57] however, in my audio settings, I can see the little slider from my microphone move when I make noise, so it must work [14:57] greetings mr-tux [14:57] will do [14:57] Ricaz: interesting [14:58] Hello seidos :) [14:58] Ricaz: did you try to actually record something and play it back? [14:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/568766/ [14:58] nope [14:58] well, i just noticed, the microphone doesn't trigger anymore [14:59] Ricaz: there is a different mixer [14:59] for pulse [14:59] @holstein i try your sugestion, it didn't work. the problem stills the same, since i've install ubuntu 10.04 i'm getting this problem. the networkmanager applet keeps with a exclamation mark on it [14:59] if you want to intstall it [14:59] but I tried following some guides and installing the drivers on my own, obviously not very successfully though [14:59] sudo apt-get install pavucontrol [14:59] mutsa: but it used to work fine? [15:00] mutsa: can you wire up to internet and make sure you have all available system updates? [15:00] i'm very new, i just had ubuntu installed when my win7 installation started hating me [15:00] Ricaz: what guides? [15:00] do you have links? [15:00] it used to work fine with wired network, because the connection didn't lost [15:00] Ricaz: 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Cypress HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series] [15:01] that could be an issue somehow [15:01] not really, I downloaded one from Realtek's website, and just follwed a guide on how to install stuff from .bz2 since i was clueless [15:01] can you disable that HDMI out in the bios? [15:01] for troubleshooting purposes? [15:01] I can try, never knew what it was for [15:01] mutsa: what wifi device is it? [15:01] holstein: yes, the system is update. [15:02] when i did that aplay -l ealier, it returned something [15:02] Ricaz: when earlier? different version of ubuntu? what version are you using now? [15:02] no, like 15m ago, and no, I've never been using anything but this, which I suppose is the latest [15:03] after i tried manually installing drivers, the aplay listed nothing [15:03] this = ? [15:03] 10.10 32bit? [15:03] 64bit? [15:03] 32bit [15:03] seidos: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01) [15:03] 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) [15:03] why is my ethernet controller from realtek? o.o [15:04] mutsa: let me search the web to see if anyone else is having a similar problem with your hardware on 10.04 [15:04] Ricaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593095&page=4 [15:04] ^^ relavant thread it seems [15:05] * holstein bbl... [15:05] seidos: tks a lot [15:05] mutsa: i found this link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1488997 reading it now [15:05] i tried installing alsa [15:06] Ricaz: you mean updating asla? [15:06] I .. guess [15:06] link what all you have done [15:06] holstein: are the sound modules/drivers included with alsa, or with the kernel? [15:06] if you can [15:06] in the kernel AFAIK [15:07] but, there is an update script for alsa [15:07] and backports [15:07] both of which are plausible fixes [15:07] first, I downloaded drivers from the realtek website, which contained "alsa-driver-1.0.24" [15:07] you dont want to beat your head against the wall though [15:07] I tried installing that, but it gave me some errors [15:07] Ricaz: i think it would be helpful to have those errors [15:08] i can try installing it again, then [15:08] and the page where the drivers came from [15:08] seidos: tks [15:08] but, i gotta run for a bit 4 realz... [15:09] mutsa: it might help to *paste* the output of sudo lshw to see what module the 3945ABG is using and then search for that [15:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1493093 [15:09] this was the thread i looked at [15:09] http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&G [15:09] this was the driver i downloaded [15:10] Ricaz: if you do sudo lshw it should show what module/driver is being loaded for your sound chip [15:10] if any... [15:10] Ricaz: you could try doing something like sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel and see what happens [15:10] ill start scrolling through that, then [15:11] Ricaz: just skim for "multimedia" or "audio" [15:11] or search for those keywords [15:12] yeah, i can only find two [15:13] and both are from ATI [15:13] seidos: should i paste it here? [15:13] !paste | mutsa [15:13] mutsa: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:14] sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel does nothing [15:14] I will do a quick restart, brb [15:14] Ricaz: try lsmod | grep snd [15:14] * seidos is thinking [15:15] seidos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568770/ [15:15] Ricaz: there is a way to restart alsa...i think sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart [15:15] it's a longshot, but it may do something [15:15] how do you make the vertical line in there? lol [15:16] mutsa: have you tried disabling wireless and reenabling from the network applet? [15:16] Ricaz: shift \ [15:16] command not found for the restart [15:17] Ricaz: mea culpa, it's sudo /sbin/alsa-utils restart [15:18] what should that do? [15:18] Ricaz: you can also try sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload [15:18] it restarted it, though [15:18] seidos: i can't the applet is like "locked". The option to disable or enable the network is "lock"/disable. not even wireless or wire connection [15:18] Ricaz: well, it should reload the alsa stack i believe [15:19] mutsa: you could try killing the applet, and restarting it. pkill nm-applet then alt-f2 nm-applet [15:19] okay, so i ran the lsmod | grep snd and it returned a bunch of stuff [15:20] what am I looking for? [15:20] seidos: doesn't fix, still with the exclamation mark [15:20] Ricaz: well, some driver is getting loaded. oh, did you scroll through sudo lshw? it should show what device driver is being used for your multimedia device [15:21] mutsa: you could try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart , but that doesn't really affect wireless. [15:22] hmmm, i'm out of ideas right now mutsa. [15:22] * seidos thinks [15:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/568779/ this is my lshw [15:22] seidos: already tried it :S [15:23] mutsa: you could do sudo rmmod iwl3945 then sudo modprobe iwl3945 [15:23] seidos: that's ok, tks for the patience [15:23] that's more an act of desperation than a thought out solution though [15:23] this is what I get when i do the lsmod snd thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/568780/ [15:23] Ricaz: i'll take a look [15:24] if you have any ideas for mutsa's issue i'm all ears [15:24] seidos: still the same :S [15:26] seidos: a printscreen of the applet should help? [15:26] mutsa: i'm checking launchpad to see if anyone has created a bug already [15:26] "Due to different Linux support condition provided by chipset vendors, please download Linux driver from chipset vendors' website or 3rd party website." - This is what Gigabyte has to say about linux drivers -.- [15:27] I will do a quick restart to see if it fixes things, brb [15:30] i'm back [15:31] Ricaz: i saw, was trying to search launchpad [15:31] for mutsa's problem ( i search for yours, but only found hits with driver=HDA) [15:31] *searched [15:35] I have no idea what to do [15:35] I wish I could just start over [15:36] Ricaz: i know what you mean. has it ever worked in any ver. of ubuntu? [15:36] no, this is the first time I'm ever using ubuntu [15:36] the only reason i booted it was to get windows working again, but now i kinda like it here [15:37] Ricaz: i know what you mean. it isn't always easy getting a system working. i'm glad i'm using ubuntu now [15:38] i've been relatively lucky with hardware support, though. especially since Toshiba doesn't officially support linux [15:39] i need to try killing nm-applet to help with mutsa's problem. brb [15:39] alright [15:40] mutsa: it is strange that you can't pkill nm-applet and restart it [15:40] back [15:41] well, there's a driver loaded, i'm not sure why alsa isn't playing nice with it. [15:41] seidos: i can kill it, but after restart it stills not working [15:41] mutsa: ah [15:41] is there a list of hardware that works properly with ubuntu? [15:42] mutsa: what if you sudo rmmod iwl3945 then restart nm-applet? does it still not work? [15:42] seidos: when running sudo service network-manager stop && sudo service network-manager start the applet is refreshed but ends up the same [15:43] Ricaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware [15:44] seidos: still not working [15:44] mutsa: what about pkill nm-applet and then nm-applet again after sudo rmmod iwl3945 [15:46] seidos: i did: sudo rmmod iwl3945, then sudo pkill nm-applet, then nm-applet, then sudo modprobe iwl3945, and didn't worked [15:46] need a how-to for compiling for a different kernel version then what i'm currently booted on [15:46] seidos: that way didn't worked either [15:47] seidos: i reinstall the networkmanager and the applet, and didn't work for me. it is strange, cause it worked just fine in previous ubuntu versions [15:47] mutsa: it worked in previous version of ubuntu though? you should create a bug in launchpad. [15:48] seidos: yes, it worked. hum, ok [15:49] seidos: is there anyway i could connect to wireless networks? i doing it to the wire networks. [15:50] mutsa: i'm sure there is a way. it used to work. i just don't know what the problem is. [15:52] work=function [15:52] seidos: but is there another way i could connect to wireless networks as i do to wire? to wire networks i use "dhclient eth0" [15:52] seidos > sudo alsa force-reload returned this http://paste.ubuntu.com/568784/ [15:52] any clue? [15:53] mutsa: ohhhh. maybe. do a search for "connect to wireless command line ubuntu" [15:53] seidos: ok ok, tks a lot ;) [15:54] Ricaz: it looks like alsa isn't recognizing the HDA driver that is loaded. [15:55] Ricaz: you're using 10.04? you might try upgrading alsa to the newest version, let me find the link for how to do that [15:55] !alsa [15:55] i'm using 10.10 [15:55] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [15:56] Ricaz: you should consider trying 10.04, if you have a usb stick or a spare cd. [15:57] how do i downgrade, then? [15:57] o/ ddecator [15:59] Ricaz: you could try with a live usb to see if sound works, if it does, then you would have to reinstall. is your /home directory on a separate partition? [16:00] i don't know much about linux directories, but they should all be on the same partition [16:00] seidos: i think i cannot create a bug in launchpad. I already logged in, and the option to report is disable, my problem? [16:01] Ricaz: i think / and /home *should* be separate by default. it makes it easier when reinstalling a different version [16:01] mutsa: try "ubuntu-bug nm-applet" from alt-f2 [16:01] im pretty clueless on the linux directories part, really [16:01] i suppose "/" is root [16:02] but I have no idea of how it structures anything, as I've been a windows user all my life [16:02] Ricaz: no worries. i'm clueless about tons of stuff. [16:03] Ricaz: there's an option during install to mount directories to a specific partition. i'm pretty sure windows doesn't have this capability. [16:03] exactly, which is why i wouldnt know much about it [16:04] also, ubuntu has tons of filesystems it supports, and i'm only familiar with FAT32 and NTFS [16:04] Ricaz: i didn't know much about it until i heard about it from the peeps here, then tried installing that way [16:04] i have a usb stick that might contain a windows trojan, would it be safe to plug it in here? [16:04] Ricaz: i'm not that familiar with the different filesystems. i tend to use the newest ext filesystem though [16:05] yeah, that should be what I'm using :) [16:05] Ricaz: i couldn't think why it wouldn't be. [16:05] okay, thanks [16:06] i'm just really uncomfortable when I try browsing around here [16:06] I go to the file explorer, and I just get confused [16:06] Ricaz: what do you mean "here"? [16:06] in ubuntu [16:06] i mean, where am I when i'm in home? can't i see filepaths in the explorer? [16:07] ah, yeah, i'm still learning about that. it makes some sense [16:07] at least more than before [16:07] home is /home/$USERNAME [16:07] which would be what translated to a windows filepath? [16:08] i see directories in nautilus (the explorer) [16:08] or do they not relate at all? [16:08] well, i'm not sure if translation is such a good idea [16:08] if you are trying to learn a new language, you're supposed to do the translating later i believe [16:09] no u [16:09] i think because it doesn't exactly translate perfectly [16:09] but are these not similar to the ones in windows? [16:09] pedro3005: no u...buntu [16:09] Ricaz: I don't mean to interrupt but here is a link about some differences between Windows and the Ubuntu equivalents. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [16:09] Ricaz: similar, yeah, i guess. /home/$USERNAME has your Music, Documents, folders like this [16:10] hey, cool johnny77, i've been looking for something like that [16:10] johnny77: ^ 5 [16:12] so there are no real drive letters and stuff like that here? I can see that my other partitions/hard drives are located in /media/Games for example [16:12] Ricaz: yeah [16:13] okay, that clarified alot for me [16:14] im almost finished downloading 10.4 now, what do you recommend i do when I boot? do i need to overwrite this installation? [16:15] Ricaz: just boot from installation media, and see if sound functions [16:16] Ricaz: if it does, install over existing install. i have heard you shouldn't have any problems installing over an existing install of ubuntu. [16:17] so audio should just work right away? [16:17] and it should leave /home intact [16:18] Ricaz: yes [16:18] i doubt it will ever do that [16:18] right now it can't even detect any audio hardware [16:18] but if it does that next time, i will return :) [16:19] Ricaz: well, there is always creating a bug, then going from there [16:21] Ricaz: i think you should try a few things [16:21] with the audio issue [16:21] first thing [16:21] update the system after install [16:22] maybe the kernel will have an update that will help [16:22] then, you can go forward or back with alsa [16:22] either backports [16:22] or, upgrade alsa [16:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10054115&postcount=43 [16:23] im going to say the backport would be most likely on that hardware [16:23] Ricaz: OH [16:23] is that you :) [16:23] Who? On the forum? no [16:23]