[02:35] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: hello
[02:35] <nUboon2Age> howdy duanedesign!
[02:36] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: how have you been?
[02:36] <seidos> cause and effect
[02:37] <nUboon2Age> lifes been kinda rough frankly duanedesign.  broke my arm, my gf broke up with me and continues to give me grief.  My birthday is on Sunday.
[02:38] <seidos> dang, how'd you break your arm?
[02:39] <nUboon2Age> i fell off my electricycle.  i'm much better now.  that was more than a month ago.
[02:39] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: sorry to hear. Had not seen you around as much lately and was thinking about you.
[02:41] <nUboon2Age> thank you duanedesign.  i think you are awesome!!!
[02:41] <nUboon2Age> it was a hairline fracture and is healing up now.
[02:44] <seidos> wow, you must've been going fast
[02:49] <nUboon2Age> not really that fast, but it was rainy and slick and i made a stupid newbie mistake of turning too quickly and i slipped on a pile of wet leaves. seidos, duanedesign
[02:49] <nUboon2Age> it was probably 15 mi/hour or so
[02:49] <duanedesign> ugh
[02:49] <duanedesign> I have somehow managed to never break a bone
[02:50] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: I notice you are using google wifi?
[02:50] <seidos> nUboon2Age: i crashed on my motorcyle once.  took a turn wrong, almost ran into a divider, broke to not crash into the divider, still move, fell off.
[02:51] <seidos> didn't break anything though, just tore my pants, and my knee
[02:55] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: you are in Mountain View?
[02:58] <nUboon2Age> yes sir duanedesign right at the moment.  someday i'll get streaming going so that we can include you in Ubuntu Hour wherever you are. :-) sardonyx
[02:58] <nUboon2Age> seidos: ^
[03:00] <duanedesign> aha
[03:01] <duanedesign> well that is coo, I did not know that
[03:01] <duanedesign> cool*
[03:02] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: have you been able to make it to any Ubuntu events in the area? I know pleia and jono are in that area
[03:03] <pleia2> nUboon2Age: *runs* lots of events!
[03:03] <duanedesign> :)
[03:04] <seidos> what we need are ubuntu parties.  not enough ubuntu partying going on if you ask me
[03:04]  * pleia2 is not at his ubuntu hour tonight, for shame
[03:04] <seidos> actually, i should've went to that party in hollywood.  not going was a fail on my part, but i'm trying to be "sustainable"
[03:06] <nUboon2Age> yes i create 4 Ubuntu Hours per month in Silicon Valley and i've been up to Berkeley to a Jono jam event and something that jdeslip/grantbow did and come to pleia2's Ubuntu Hour in SF.
[03:06] <duanedesign> wow, that is too awesome!
[03:07] <seidos> nUboon2Age: i missed you at pleia2's event.
[03:07] <seidos> the one that went to while i was up there
[03:07] <nUboon2Age> i didn't make it that mo. unfortunately seidos
[03:08] <nUboon2Age> i've made most of them since i started coming seidos, but missed a couple
[03:08] <seidos> drat.  well, i will probably drive back up in May.  i want to stay at abhayagiri monastery at least once
[03:13] <nUboon2Age> looking forward to it seidos
[03:16] <duanedesign> seidos: that sounds nice
[04:48]  * Geocosm strangles Virtualbox.
[04:48]  * JackyAlcine helps Geocosm by tying it down to a table.
[04:51] <Geocosm> I'm trying to add a "hard disc drive" for windows xp. I added it, and booted up, and windows said yey new hardwarez installz0ring. Except there's no new HDD in My Computer.
[04:52] <Geocosm> The OS "HDD" is WinXP.vdi, 10 gigs, IDE Primary Master. The drive I'm trying to add is NewHardDisk1.vdi, 20GB, IDE Primary Slave.
[04:56] <Geocosm> I originally made the drive dynamically expanding, but I'm trying to install a game and it's telling me I don't have enough space on the drive. grrr
[05:01] <JackyAlcine> try changing it from dynamically allocating to a fixed size drive.
[05:08] <Geocosm> I tried that, but it crashes. It just sits there at 0% and then it turns black and white.
[05:08] <Geocosm> I still haven't figured out why things turn black and white before they crash.
[05:09] <Geocosm> Crash imminent! Must remove all colors!
[05:19] <JackyAlcine> =/
[05:19] <trinikrono> Cant you tell it to custom install to the new drive assuming that it shows up in the my computer?
[05:20] <trinikrono> hello JackyAlcine
[05:20] <JackyAlcine> o/
[05:22] <Geocosm> That's what I'm trying to do, Trinikrono.
[05:23] <Geocosm> Unfortunately the new drive is not showing up when I boot the virtual machine.
[05:23] <trinikrono> which game
[05:23] <trinikrono> oho
[05:23] <Geocosm> I'm trying to install Starcraft II so I can rip the files off windows and play it on Linux.
[05:23] <trinikrono> O.o
[05:23] <Geocosm> It won't install on Linux it tells me I have bad hardware.
[05:24] <Geocosm> It says it needs amd or something. Which is dumb. Because it worked just fine when I had Windows XP installed on this machine.
[05:25] <Geocosm> I found a guide on how to add a new hdd to virtualbox but it's incredibly outdated and nothing looks the same. It seems like this has been set up to be simple, but windows is being a pain about it.
[05:25] <trinikrono> Geocosm: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882 <------you run using wine ?
[05:25] <Geocosm> The first time I booted into xp it said it found the hard drive.
[05:25] <Geocosm> And it claimed to be installing it. Then it minimized to the tray and disappeared.
[05:26] <trinikrono> Geocosm: is it under comuter management
[05:26] <trinikrono> *computer
[05:26] <Geocosm> You mean add hardware?
[05:26] <Geocosm> Add Hardware lists two separate discs, and claims both are in perfect working order.
[05:26] <Geocosm> Open up My Computer -- just a C:/ drive
[05:27] <trinikrono> no
[05:27] <trinikrono> i mean right click on my computer then manage
[05:27] <trinikrono> then disk management and see what it says about partitions and stuff
[05:27] <trinikrono> you might need to intialise and format that new drive
[05:29] <Geocosm> aha!
[05:31] <Geocosm> You're a genius.
[05:31] <Geocosm> I'm a bit ashamed, I didn't even know about this.
[05:32] <Geocosm> Maybe I should join #windows-beginners lol
[05:33] <trinikrono> Geocosm: i am not sure if starcraft2 will work in a virtual box though
[05:33] <trinikrono> how do other games work for you
[05:33] <Geocosm> No I'm not running it in the VM.
[05:34] <Geocosm> I'm installing it in Windows so I can cut/paste the files into Linux and run the installer with wine.
[05:34] <Geocosm> I mean the launcher.
[05:34] <trinikrono> Geocosm: okie
[05:35] <Geocosm> I don't quite have enough ram to run games in a virtual machine. 4GB DDR3.
[07:58] <Geocosm> There's a way to make wine run a program without sound, right? I tried unchecking all the drivers and I still have sound.
[08:00] <Geocosm> Also the Test Sound button says "Audio test failed!"
[08:00] <bioterror> wine uses your sounds, I think
[08:01] <bioterror> mute your linux sounds :D
[08:01] <Geocosm> Well I don't just want it muted.
[08:01] <Geocosm> I think the sound is what is crashing my game.
[08:01] <Geocosm> "err:mmdevapi:ACR_ReleaseBuffer Starting from 1014"
[08:01] <Geocosm> I want to disable the sound completely to see if I still crash.
[08:02] <bioterror> http://forum.winehq.org/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=03f4021ec0dd2a5ac0719347376f82c0
[10:13] <Guest36096> Hey Guys and Girls, I'm having some problems installing alien arena from  source code. Can anyone help me? I've tried following instructions online but didn't get anywhere :(
[14:10] <s-fox> Hello.
[14:11] <seidos> Hello.
[14:12] <s-fox> Hello seidos :)
[14:12] <s-fox> How are you  ?
[14:12] <seidos> Hello s-fox , what's going on?
[14:12] <seidos> cause and effect
[14:13] <seidos> i am presently trying to solve euler9
[14:13] <s-fox> I'm alright thank you
[14:13] <seidos> good to hear :D
[14:14] <s-fox> :)
[14:35] <mutsa> hi! my networkmanager applet trys to find/connect to some network, but it ends saying "The network connection was terminated". When clicked, the applet shows the networks available, but i'm not able select any. I reinstall the networkmanager and the networkmanager applet, I searched the web, but i couldn't find a solution. Anyone can help?
[14:38] <holstein> mutsa: questions
[14:38] <holstein> has it ever worked?
[14:38] <holstein> it = that particular wifi device
[14:38] <holstein> and you say 'some network'
[14:38] <holstein> does that mean you have tried multiple access points?
[14:39] <holstein> if so, eleborate...
[14:39] <mutsa> yes at beginning, but the applet use to disappear when the connection was lost, so i try to reinstall it
[14:39] <holstein> i dont think the applet is the issue
[14:39] <holstein> if memory serves
[14:40] <holstein> the icon changes into something else
[14:40] <holstein> when the wifi network disconnects
[14:40] <holstein> a different little picture
[14:40] <holstein> mutsa: IF the device used to work
[14:40] <holstein> and you did a system update
[14:40] <holstein> then, it didnt
[14:40] <mutsa> when the network disconnects it don't change, just "close"
[14:41] <holstein> try rebooting
[14:41] <holstein> hit the shift key
[14:41] <holstein> and select an older kernel
[14:41] <holstein> see if the wifi device acts as expected
[14:41] <holstein> then, you'll know where to begin
[14:41] <mutsa> hum, ok, i'll try it now, tks
[14:42] <seidos> mutsa: when you searched the internet did you include your wifi device's make/model?
[14:43] <seidos> that may prove useful in your search
[14:44] <mutsa> @seidos   no i didn't, i assumed the problem is not with the device cause in previous versions of ubuntu never had a problem
[14:44] <mutsa> i'll try the hokstein sugestion first
[14:44] <mutsa> tks all
[14:46] <seidos> too bad.  there may be others with his hardware and using his version of ubuntu having the same problem
[14:46]  * seidos shrugs
[14:50] <Ricaz> How come #ubuntu-beginners-help is invite only?
[14:50] <MrChrisDruif> -help??????
[14:50] <holstein> a better question, why is there an #ubuntu-beginngers-help
[14:50] <holstein> is there one?
[14:51] <JackyAlcine> o.O
[14:51] <Ricaz> well, the website told me to go there
[14:51] <MrChrisDruif> Which website?
[14:51] <seidos> Ricaz: because this is the channel you should come to for help
[14:51] <javatexan> I have a printing question
[14:51] <JackyAlcine> there is, and it's invite-only.
[14:51] <Ricaz> aha, I just didn't see the need for both of them
[14:51] <seidos> javatexan: feel free to ask.  if someone can answer, they will.  if not, ask again later :)
[14:52] <Ricaz> anyway, I need help - I have no audio, and I've been looking for linux drivers all over, but couldn't find any
[14:52] <javatexan> I have the network printer setup in cups and it shows up in the printer admin app.  My problem is that each time I print it asks for a network user and password, is there a way to set that forever?
[14:52] <javatexan> I have done some google searches, but no luck
[14:53] <seidos> Ricaz: drivers typically are built into the kernel.  what sound chip?
[14:53] <javatexan> I think I had this setup before, could an update have killed it>
[14:53] <seidos> javatexan: i'm not sure how much help i can be.  i've used tcp/ip printers in the past, and they worked fine, without a username and password
[14:53] <Ricaz> I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure of my motherboard model: Gigabyte GA-879A-UD3
[14:53] <holstein> Ricaz: open a terminal and run 'aplay -l' and 'arecord -l'
[14:54] <Ricaz> alright
[14:54] <holstein> you can put that info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:54] <javatexan> its the printserver here, it requires user and pass
[14:54] <holstein> javatexan: what is running the printserver?
[14:54] <holstein> a windows machine?
[14:55] <holstein> or is it standalone?
[14:55] <javatexan> its a windows server
[14:55] <holstein> i think you're going to want to read up on samba
[14:55] <seidos> Ricaz: welcome back
[14:55] <Ricaz> :D
[14:55] <javatexan> k thanks
[14:55] <holstein> OR configure the server for more open-ness
[14:55] <Ricaz> forgot that my irc client was running in terminal
[14:55] <holstein> IF thats ok in your environment javatexan
[14:56] <javatexan> holstein: wish I could, I really do
[14:56] <seidos> irssi \o/
[14:56] <Ricaz> what were the commands again?
[14:56] <javatexan> LOL
[14:56] <seidos> Ricaz: aplay -l and arecord -l
[14:56] <Ricaz> thx
[14:56] <Ricaz> aplay -l returns "no soundcards found"
[14:56] <Ricaz> same with arecord
[14:56] <holstein> Ricaz: pastebin lspci
[14:57] <holstein> or http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:57] <Ricaz> however, in my audio settings, I can see the little slider from my microphone move when I make noise, so it must work
[14:57] <seidos> greetings mr-tux
[14:57] <Ricaz> will do
[14:57] <holstein> Ricaz: interesting
[14:58] <mr-tux> Hello seidos :)
[14:58] <seidos> Ricaz: did you try to actually record something and play it back?
[14:58] <Ricaz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/568766/
[14:58] <Ricaz> nope
[14:58] <Ricaz> well, i just noticed, the microphone doesn't trigger anymore
[14:59] <holstein> Ricaz: there is a different mixer
[14:59] <holstein> for pulse
[14:59] <mutsa> @holstein  i try your sugestion, it didn't work. the problem stills the same, since i've install ubuntu 10.04 i'm getting this problem. the networkmanager applet keeps with a exclamation mark on it
[14:59] <holstein> if you want to intstall it
[14:59] <Ricaz> but I tried following some guides and installing the drivers on my own, obviously not very successfully though
[14:59] <holstein> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[14:59] <holstein> mutsa: but it used to work fine?
[15:00] <holstein> mutsa: can you wire up to internet and make sure you have all available system updates?
[15:00] <Ricaz> i'm very new, i just had ubuntu installed when my win7 installation started hating me
[15:00] <holstein> Ricaz: what guides?
[15:00] <holstein> do you have links?
[15:00] <mutsa> it used to work fine with wired network, because the connection didn't lost
[15:00] <holstein> Ricaz: 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Cypress HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series]
[15:01] <holstein> that could be an issue somehow
[15:01] <Ricaz> not really, I downloaded one from Realtek's website, and just follwed a guide on how to install stuff from .bz2 since i was clueless
[15:01] <holstein> can you disable that HDMI out in the bios?
[15:01] <holstein> for troubleshooting purposes?
[15:01] <Ricaz> I can try, never knew what it was for
[15:01] <seidos> mutsa: what wifi device is it?
[15:01] <mutsa> holstein: yes, the system is update.
[15:02] <Ricaz> when i did that aplay -l ealier, it returned something
[15:02] <seidos> Ricaz: when earlier?  different version of ubuntu?  what version are you using now?
[15:02] <Ricaz> no, like 15m ago, and no, I've never been using anything but this, which I suppose is the latest
[15:03] <Ricaz> after i tried manually installing drivers, the aplay listed nothing
[15:03] <holstein> this = ?
[15:03] <holstein> 10.10 32bit?
[15:03] <holstein> 64bit?
[15:03] <Ricaz> 32bit
[15:03] <mutsa> seidos: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[15:03] <mutsa> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[15:03] <Ricaz> why is my ethernet controller from realtek? o.o
[15:04] <seidos> mutsa: let me search the web to see if anyone else is having a similar problem with your hardware on 10.04
[15:04] <holstein> Ricaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593095&page=4
[15:04] <holstein> ^^ relavant thread it seems
[15:05]  * holstein bbl...
[15:05] <mutsa> seidos: tks a lot
[15:05] <seidos> mutsa: i found this link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1488997 reading it now
[15:05] <Ricaz> i tried installing alsa
[15:06] <holstein> Ricaz: you mean updating asla?
[15:06] <Ricaz> I .. guess
[15:06] <holstein> link what all you have done
[15:06] <seidos> holstein: are the sound modules/drivers included with alsa, or with the kernel?
[15:06] <holstein> if you can
[15:06] <holstein> in the kernel AFAIK
[15:07] <holstein> but, there is an update script for alsa
[15:07] <holstein> and backports
[15:07] <holstein> both of which are plausible fixes
[15:07] <Ricaz> first, I downloaded drivers from the realtek website, which contained "alsa-driver-1.0.24"
[15:07] <holstein> you dont want to beat your head against the wall though
[15:07] <Ricaz> I tried installing that, but it gave me some errors
[15:07] <holstein> Ricaz: i think it would be helpful to have those errors
[15:08] <Ricaz> i can try installing it again, then
[15:08] <holstein> and the page where the drivers came from
[15:08] <mutsa> seidos: tks
[15:08] <holstein> but, i gotta run for a bit 4 realz...
[15:09] <seidos> mutsa: it might help to *paste* the output of sudo lshw to see what module the 3945ABG is using and then search for that
[15:09] <Ricaz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1493093
[15:09] <Ricaz> this was the thread i looked at
[15:09] <Ricaz> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&G
[15:09] <Ricaz> this was the driver i downloaded
[15:10] <seidos> Ricaz: if you do sudo lshw it should show what module/driver is being loaded for your sound chip
[15:10] <seidos> if any...
[15:10] <seidos> Ricaz: you could try doing something like sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel and see what happens
[15:10] <Ricaz> ill start scrolling through that, then
[15:11] <seidos> Ricaz: just skim for "multimedia" or "audio"
[15:11] <seidos> or search for those keywords
[15:12] <Ricaz> yeah, i can only find two
[15:13] <Ricaz> and both are from ATI
[15:13] <mutsa> seidos: should i paste it here?
[15:13] <seidos> !paste | mutsa
[15:13] <ubot2> mutsa: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:14] <Ricaz>  sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel does nothing
[15:14] <Ricaz> I will do a quick restart, brb
[15:14] <seidos> Ricaz: try lsmod | grep snd
[15:14]  * seidos is thinking
[15:15] <mutsa> seidos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568770/
[15:15] <seidos> Ricaz: there is a way to restart alsa...i think sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[15:15] <seidos> it's a longshot, but it may do something
[15:15] <Ricaz> how do you make the vertical line in there? lol
[15:16] <seidos> mutsa: have you tried disabling wireless and reenabling from the network applet?
[15:16] <seidos> Ricaz: shift \
[15:16] <Ricaz> command not found for the restart
[15:17] <seidos> Ricaz: mea culpa, it's sudo /sbin/alsa-utils restart
[15:18] <Ricaz> what should that do?
[15:18] <seidos> Ricaz: you can also try sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[15:18] <Ricaz> it restarted it, though
[15:18] <mutsa> seidos: i can't the applet is like "locked". The option to disable or enable the network is "lock"/disable. not even wireless or wire connection
[15:18] <seidos> Ricaz: well, it should reload the alsa stack i believe
[15:19] <seidos> mutsa: you could try killing the applet, and restarting it.  pkill nm-applet  then alt-f2 nm-applet
[15:19] <Ricaz> okay, so i ran the lsmod | grep snd and it returned a bunch of stuff
[15:20] <Ricaz> what am I looking for?
[15:20] <mutsa> seidos: doesn't fix, still with the exclamation mark
[15:20] <seidos> Ricaz: well, some driver is getting loaded.  oh, did you scroll through sudo lshw?  it should show what device driver is being used for your multimedia device
[15:21] <seidos> mutsa: you could try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart , but that doesn't really affect wireless.
[15:22] <seidos> hmmm, i'm out of ideas right now mutsa.
[15:22]  * seidos thinks
[15:22] <Ricaz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/568779/ this is my lshw
[15:22] <mutsa> seidos: already tried it :S
[15:23] <seidos> mutsa: you could do sudo rmmod iwl3945 then sudo modprobe iwl3945
[15:23] <mutsa> seidos: that's ok, tks for the patience
[15:23] <seidos> that's more an act of desperation than a thought out solution though
[15:23] <Ricaz> this is what I get when i do the lsmod snd thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/568780/
[15:23] <seidos> Ricaz: i'll take a look
[15:24] <seidos> if you have any ideas for mutsa's issue i'm all ears
[15:24] <mutsa> seidos: still the same :S
[15:26] <mutsa> seidos: a printscreen of the applet should help?
[15:26] <seidos> mutsa: i'm checking launchpad to see if anyone has created a bug already
[15:26] <Ricaz> "Due to different Linux support condition provided by chipset vendors, please download Linux driver from chipset vendors' website or 3rd party website." - This is what Gigabyte has to say about linux drivers -.-
[15:27] <Ricaz> I will do a quick restart to see if it fixes things, brb
[15:30] <Ricaz> i'm back
[15:31] <seidos> Ricaz: i saw, was trying to search launchpad
[15:31] <seidos> for mutsa's problem ( i search for yours, but only found hits with driver=HDA)
[15:31] <seidos> *searched
[15:35] <Ricaz> I have no idea what to do
[15:35] <Ricaz> I wish I could just start over
[15:36] <seidos> Ricaz: i know what you mean.  has it ever worked in any ver. of ubuntu?
[15:36] <Ricaz> no, this is the first time I'm ever using ubuntu
[15:36] <Ricaz> the only reason i booted it was to get windows working again, but now i kinda like it here
[15:37] <seidos> Ricaz: i know what you mean.  it isn't always easy getting a system working.  i'm glad i'm using ubuntu now
[15:38] <seidos> i've been relatively lucky with hardware support, though.  especially since Toshiba doesn't officially support linux
[15:39] <seidos> i need to try killing nm-applet to help with mutsa's problem.  brb
[15:39] <Ricaz> alright
[15:40] <seidos> mutsa: it is strange that you can't pkill nm-applet and restart it
[15:40] <seidos> back
[15:41] <seidos> well, there's a driver loaded, i'm not sure why alsa isn't playing nice with it.
[15:41] <mutsa> seidos: i can kill it, but after restart it stills not working
[15:41] <seidos> mutsa: ah
[15:41] <Ricaz> is there a list of hardware that works properly with ubuntu?
[15:42] <seidos> mutsa: what if you sudo rmmod iwl3945 then restart nm-applet?  does it still not work?
[15:42] <mutsa> seidos: when running sudo service network-manager stop && sudo service network-manager start    the applet is refreshed but ends up the same
[15:43] <seidos> Ricaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware
[15:44] <mutsa> seidos: still not working
[15:44] <seidos> mutsa: what about pkill nm-applet and then nm-applet again after sudo rmmod iwl3945
[15:46] <mutsa> seidos: i did: sudo rmmod iwl3945, then sudo pkill nm-applet, then nm-applet, then sudo modprobe iwl3945,  and didn't worked
[15:46] <AceRimmer> need a how-to for compiling for a different kernel version  then what i'm currently booted on
[15:46] <mutsa> seidos: that way didn't worked either
[15:47] <mutsa> seidos: i reinstall the networkmanager and the applet, and didn't work for me. it is strange, cause it worked just fine in previous ubuntu versions
[15:47] <seidos> mutsa: it worked in previous version of ubuntu though?  you should create a bug in launchpad.
[15:48] <mutsa> seidos: yes, it worked.  hum, ok
[15:49] <mutsa> seidos: is there anyway i could connect to wireless networks? i doing it to the wire networks.
[15:50] <seidos> mutsa: i'm sure there is a way.  it used to work.  i just don't know what the problem is.
[15:52] <seidos> work=function
[15:52] <mutsa> seidos: but is there another way i could connect to wireless networks as i do to wire? to wire networks i use "dhclient eth0"
[15:52] <Ricaz> seidos > sudo alsa force-reload    returned this    http://paste.ubuntu.com/568784/
[15:52] <Ricaz> any clue?
[15:53] <seidos> mutsa: ohhhh.  maybe.  do a search for "connect to wireless command line ubuntu"
[15:53] <mutsa> seidos: ok ok, tks a lot ;)
[15:54] <seidos> Ricaz: it looks like alsa isn't recognizing the HDA driver that is loaded.
[15:55] <seidos> Ricaz: you're using 10.04?  you might try upgrading alsa to the newest version, let me find the link for how to do that
[15:55] <seidos> !alsa
[15:55] <Ricaz> i'm using 10.10
[15:55] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[15:56] <seidos> Ricaz: you should consider trying 10.04, if you have a usb stick or a spare cd.
[15:57] <Ricaz> how do i downgrade, then?
[15:57] <JackyAlcine> o/ ddecator
[15:59] <seidos> Ricaz: you could try with a live usb to see if sound works, if it does, then you would have to reinstall.  is your /home directory on a separate partition?
[16:00] <Ricaz> i don't know much about linux directories, but they should all be on the same partition
[16:00] <mutsa> seidos: i think i cannot create a bug in launchpad. I already logged in, and the option to report is disable, my problem?
[16:01] <seidos> Ricaz: i think / and /home *should* be separate by default.  it makes it easier when reinstalling a different version
[16:01] <seidos> mutsa: try "ubuntu-bug nm-applet" from alt-f2
[16:01] <Ricaz> im pretty clueless on the linux directories part, really
[16:01] <Ricaz> i suppose "/" is root
[16:02] <Ricaz> but I have no idea of how it structures anything, as I've been a windows user all my life
[16:02] <seidos> Ricaz: no worries.  i'm clueless about tons of stuff.
[16:03] <seidos> Ricaz: there's an option during install to mount directories to a specific partition.  i'm pretty sure windows doesn't have this capability.
[16:03] <Ricaz> exactly, which is why i wouldnt know much about it
[16:04] <Ricaz> also, ubuntu has tons of filesystems it supports, and i'm only familiar with FAT32 and NTFS
[16:04] <seidos> Ricaz: i didn't know much about it until i heard about it from the peeps here, then tried installing that way
[16:04] <Ricaz> i have a usb stick that might contain a windows trojan, would it be safe to plug it in here?
[16:04] <seidos> Ricaz: i'm not that familiar with the different filesystems.  i tend to use the newest ext filesystem though
[16:05] <Ricaz> yeah, that should be what I'm using :)
[16:05] <seidos> Ricaz: i couldn't think why it wouldn't be.
[16:05] <Ricaz> okay, thanks
[16:06] <Ricaz> i'm just really uncomfortable when I try browsing around here
[16:06] <Ricaz> I go to the file explorer, and I just get confused
[16:06] <seidos> Ricaz: what do you mean "here"?
[16:06] <Ricaz> in ubuntu
[16:06] <Ricaz> i mean, where am I when i'm in home? can't i see filepaths in the explorer?
[16:07] <seidos> ah, yeah, i'm still learning about that.  it makes some sense
[16:07] <seidos> at least more than before
[16:07] <seidos> home is /home/$USERNAME
[16:07] <Ricaz> which would be what translated to a  windows filepath?
[16:08] <seidos> i see directories in nautilus (the explorer)
[16:08] <Ricaz> or do they not relate at all?
[16:08] <seidos> well, i'm not sure if translation is such a good idea
[16:08] <seidos> if you are trying to learn a new language, you're supposed to do the translating later i believe
[16:09] <pedro3005> no u
[16:09] <seidos> i think because it doesn't exactly translate perfectly
[16:09] <Ricaz> but are these not similar to the ones in windows?
[16:09] <seidos> pedro3005: no u...buntu
[16:09] <johnny77> Ricaz: I don't mean to interrupt but here is a link about some differences between Windows and the Ubuntu equivalents. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[16:09] <seidos> Ricaz: similar, yeah, i guess.  /home/$USERNAME has your Music, Documents, folders like this
[16:10] <Ricaz> hey, cool johnny77, i've been looking for something like that
[16:10] <seidos> johnny77: ^ 5
[16:12] <Ricaz> so there are no real drive letters and stuff like that here? I can see that my other partitions/hard drives are located in /media/Games for example
[16:12] <seidos> Ricaz: yeah
[16:13] <Ricaz> okay, that clarified alot for me
[16:14] <Ricaz> im almost finished downloading 10.4 now, what do you recommend i do when I boot? do i need to overwrite this installation?
[16:15] <seidos> Ricaz: just boot from installation media, and see if sound functions
[16:16] <seidos> Ricaz: if it does, install over existing install.  i have heard you shouldn't have any problems installing over an existing install of ubuntu.
[16:17] <Ricaz> so audio should just work right away?
[16:17] <seidos> and it should leave /home intact
[16:18] <seidos> Ricaz: yes
[16:18] <Ricaz> i doubt it will ever do that
[16:18] <Ricaz> right now it can't even detect any audio hardware
[16:18] <Ricaz> but if it does that next time, i will return :)
[16:19] <seidos> Ricaz: well, there is always creating a bug, then going from there
[16:21] <holstein> Ricaz: i think you should try a few things
[16:21] <holstein> with the audio issue
[16:21] <holstein> first thing
[16:21] <holstein> update the system after install
[16:22] <holstein> maybe the kernel will have an update that will help
[16:22] <holstein> then, you can go forward or back with alsa
[16:22] <holstein> either backports
[16:22] <holstein> or, upgrade alsa
[16:23] <Ricaz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10054115&postcount=43
[16:23] <holstein> im going to say the backport would be most likely on that hardware
[16:23] <holstein> Ricaz: OH
[16:23] <holstein> is that you :)
[16:23] <Ricaz> Who? On the forum? no
[16:23] <Ricaz> I was just wondering what he meant
[16:24] <holstein> it seems that mainline kernel has support for his device
[16:24] <holstein> Ricaz: thats your device as well right?
[16:24] <seidos> that was in 10/31/2010
[16:24] <Ricaz> whats a mainline kernel?
[16:24] <holstein> Ricaz: i would try that
[16:24] <holstein> before you wipe
[16:25] <holstein> and/or reinstall or anything
[16:25] <Ricaz> easy now
[16:25] <holstein> mainline is pretty much the upcoming kernel
[16:25] <holstein> i think its the proposed upcoming kernel to be released
[16:25] <seidos> i haven't figured out how to install different kernels from the kernel ppa yet
[16:26] <seidos> i have been distracted by other things
[16:26] <holstein> apt-get them :)
[16:26] <holstein> i usually just try and get the .debs though
[16:26] <Ricaz> I was just looking at that thread for solutions
[16:26] <holstein> because for me, its usually a temporary thing
[16:26] <Ricaz> And he said something worked, but I had no clue what anything he said meant
[16:26] <holstein> Ricaz: open a terminal
[16:26] <holstein> run
[16:26] <holstein> uname -a
[16:27] <holstein> and paste that...
[16:27] <Ricaz> Linux ubunTOSS 2.6.35-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 19:01:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:27] <holstein> SO
[16:28] <holstein> we are looking at a fix
[16:28] <holstein> from an older kernel
[16:28] <Ricaz> .. to this one?
[16:28] <holstein> which supports the backport idea i proposed
[16:28] <holstein> you have a 2.6.35
[16:28] <holstein> and that mainline kernel from that older post
[16:28] <holstein> is a 2.6.32
[16:29] <holstein> could be that during the move forward
[16:29] <holstein> support for your device has been taken out
[16:29] <seidos> holstein: sadly, that isn't helpful.  i would need an entire example for what to put on the $ line
[16:29] <holstein> seidos: wget the .deb
[16:29] <holstein> and use dpkg :)
[16:29] <holstein> in theory*
[16:30] <seidos> holstein: that isn't apt-get
[16:30] <holstein> right
[16:30] <seidos> i'll read the email i got from the kernel ppa team
[16:30] <holstein> if you want to add the PPA
[16:30] <holstein> you would need to run sudo apt-add-repository whatever...
[16:31] <Ricaz> okay, I think I'm going to try and follow seidos' advice and reroll to 10.4
[16:31] <holstein> but, i usually dont for temporary packages like that
[16:31] <holstein> Ricaz: try a live CD
[16:31] <holstein> those are such a handy tool
[16:31] <Ricaz> what IS a live CD?
[16:31] <holstein> coming from windows, this was quite progression for me
[16:32] <holstein> most of the linux installer discs are live CD's as well
[16:32] <holstein> which means
[16:32] <holstein> you can run the OS from CD or DVD or USB
[16:32] <holstein> or whatever
[16:32] <holstein> live
[16:32] <MrChrisDruif> You can boot up and try the system before installing
[16:32] <Ricaz> i come from windows, i've been "using" linux for a couple of hours
[16:32] <holstein> without effecting your current machine setup
[16:32] <Ricaz> okay, i'll try that
[16:32] <holstein> the hard drive will not be changed
[16:32] <Ricaz> i just made a USB drive
[16:33] <seidos> Ricaz: cool!  \o/
[16:33] <Ricaz> thanks for your help then, i'll probably return soon o/
[16:33] <holstein> Ricaz: come ask it that gets fiddly
[16:33] <holstein> usually easy though :)
[16:33] <holstein> good luck
[16:33] <seidos> live usbs are nifty
[16:42] <Ricaz> hey again
[16:44] <Ricaz> so my live USB disk didn't work. "Unknown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot"
[16:44] <Ricaz> "vesamenu.c32 not a COM32R image"
[16:45] <Ricaz> but! now my sound hardware is back, without sound
[16:47] <holstein> i usually format those USB sticks each time
[17:03] <javatexan> fixed it, had to delete the printer and remake it... :(  almost reminded me about my time in captivity while using windows
[20:06] <Ricaz> Hello, I need some help. I recently had to format my other PC to re-install Windows 7, but everything really screwed up and the USB drive I had the win7 installer on has been corrupted. I need to know if there are apps to create bootable USB drives for win7 on Ubuntu?
[20:07] <Ricaz> Another thing is, I need to get the .iso from my PC, so I put in an Ubuntu USB installer and tried to boot directly from it, but after the initial loading screen, the screen just failed to find any input (screen went blank).
[20:09] <bioterror> use windows cd to repair windows partitions
[20:09] <bioterror> or dvd
[20:10] <Ricaz> I did try that at first, but my whole installation had been corrupted, so I wanted to re-install Windows.
[20:16] <seidos> Ricaz: couldn't get ubuntu functioning on your hardware?
[20:19] <Ricaz> well, as i wrote, when i launched it from the usb, the screen just went blank
[20:19] <Ricaz> then i tried it on my laptop, and it loaded it 10x as fast and had no problems at all
[20:20] <Ricaz> everything works perfectly on this
[20:20] <Ricaz> but i need to get windows back on my other PC, so i want to get the win7 iso from that PC, then make a bootable USB stick from ubuntu to install win7 from
[20:21] <bioterror> I would use gentoo or arch livecd which comes without X
[20:24] <Ricaz> without X?
[20:24] <Ricaz> im a complete noob when it comes to linux
[20:28] <Ricaz> what i need is something I can put on a CD or USB drive, that will let me boot my PC and take a file from the hard drive and put that on a media.
[20:29] <holstein> Ricaz: you can do that with any live CD
[20:29] <holstein> any of the normal buntu live install meida
[20:29] <holstein> media
[20:30] <Ricaz> the problem is, i put in my ubuntu live USB, and when i tried booting ubuntu, screen went blank after loading
[20:30] <holstein> Ricaz: have you ever seen the desktop?
[20:30] <holstein> from the live media?
[20:30] <Ricaz> yes, on my laptop I have, but not on the PC
[20:31] <Ricaz> I get to the menu where i can choose whether I want to start ubuntu, install it, run a memtest etc
[20:31] <holstein> well, the machine in question
[20:31] <holstein> OK
[20:31] <holstein> Ricaz: at that menu
[20:31] <seidos> Ricaz: did you type help at the prompt when you booted from live usb?
[20:31] <holstein> there are options at the bottom
[20:31] <holstein> F6 is one
[20:31] <seidos> sometimes you can just type "live" to start up the live usb
[20:31] <holstein> when you hit F6
[20:31] <Ricaz> i didnt see anything
[20:31] <holstein> you'll see options in there
[20:31] <Ricaz> before that menu comes up?
[20:32] <holstein> Ricaz: which disc is this?
[20:32] <Ricaz> ill start it up again, one second
[20:32] <holstein> 10.10?
[20:32] <Ricaz> it is 10.4 on a USB drive
[20:32] <holstein> that should be right
[20:32] <Ricaz> it is, i just installed ubuntu on this machine from it
[20:33] <holstein> what you're interested in (i think)
[20:33] <holstein> is nomodeset
[20:33] <Ricaz> yes, i saw that
[20:33] <holstein> under that f6 menu
[20:33] <Ricaz> i dont know what you mean about the f6 menu, i wasn't prompted
[20:33] <holstein> when you see
[20:33] <Ricaz> okay, im starting it up now, with the usb
[20:33] <holstein> install ubuntu
[20:33] <holstein> try ubuntu live
[20:33] <Ricaz> going to the boot menu
[20:33] <holstein> memory test
[20:33] <holstein> whatever else
[20:34] <holstein> after selecting language
[20:34] <holstein> down at the bottom there
[20:34] <Ricaz> im there. a big white ubuntu logo and those options
[20:34] <holstein> should be several options
[20:34] <holstein> F6 is one
[20:34] <Ricaz> there are no options
[20:34] <Ricaz> it says "press enter to boot or tab to edit a menu entry"
[20:34] <Ricaz> i can take a picture for you, if you'd like
[20:34] <holstein> nah
[20:34] <holstein> its because of the USB
[20:34] <holstein> hmmm
[20:35] <holstein> might be worth burning a disc over
[20:35] <holstein> thats a good test
[20:35] <holstein> good thing to know
[20:35] <bioterror> why not just edit the bootline and add into the end nodemoset
[20:36] <bioterror> nomodeset
[20:36] <bioterror> even
[20:36] <Ricaz> i should burn a dvd now?
[20:36] <bioterror> it doesnt matter
[20:36] <Ricaz> whats this suggestion, bioterror?
[20:36] <bioterror> usb or dvd
[20:36] <Ricaz> excuse my cluelessness
[20:36] <holstein> bioterror: of cours
[20:36] <holstein> my brain is made of mush now
[20:36] <bioterror> but I think Kernel Mode Settings is not the issue
[20:36] <Ricaz> you want me to edit a meny entry?
[20:37] <bioterror> ricaz, is your desktop pc built from the scratch or is it by some manufacturer
[20:37] <Ricaz> menu even
[20:37] <holstein> bioterror: what is the equivalent to force-vesa
[20:37] <holstein> ?
[20:37] <Ricaz> built from scratch
[20:37] <bioterror> Ricaz, which gfx card you ahve?
[20:37] <bioterror> hace
[20:37] <bioterror> have
[20:37] <Ricaz> ATI Radeon HD5870
[20:38] <Ricaz> i saw people having issues with this on nvidia cards though
[20:38] <Ricaz> they fixed it with the nomodeset thing
[20:38] <bioterror> yeah
[20:38] <bioterror> when you boot
[20:38] <bioterror> you get that grub
[20:38] <bioterror> Linux 2.6.35 or something
[20:38] <bioterror> and if you press E as edit
[20:38] <seidos> so the problem isn't with wanting to create a windows 7 live usb, that's a +
[20:39] <bioterror> you can add "nomodeset" without "" into the end of the boot line
[20:39] <bioterror> where's vmlinuz-asdasdasd ro splash quiet
[20:39] <bioterror> seidos, problem is to get stuff out from that computer which cant get desktop working
[20:40] <holstein> O I C
[20:40] <holstein> yeah, if you're not planning on installing ubuntu on that machine Ricaz
[20:41] <holstein> you can find friendlier fail-safe live media
[20:41] <Ricaz> i dont get that grub
[20:41] <bioterror> with Trinity Rescue Kit you can mount all media and samba share them ;9
[20:42] <bioterror> not a bad idea
[20:42] <holstein> ^^
[20:42] <holstein> thats a great idea
[20:42] <bioterror> it's in the boot options
[20:42] <holstein> if you want to install ubuntu on there
[20:42] <holstein> then, you'll have to tackle this grahics issue at some point
[20:42] <holstein> assuming its a graphics issue*
[20:43] <Ricaz> well
[20:44] <Ricaz> what i really need right now
[20:44] <Ricaz> is to grab that file from the hard drive
[20:44] <Ricaz> and i only have a laptop with buntu and a USB drive at my service
[20:44] <holstein> trinity rescue kit is handy to have around
[20:44] <holstein> that or http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[20:44] <holstein> or something like puppy
[20:45] <Ricaz> whatever is easiest
[20:45] <holstein> well, it depends
[20:45] <holstein> mostly on what you are used to
[20:46] <Ricaz> im not used to any of this
[20:46] <Ricaz> im used to windows
[20:48] <holstein> yeah, so you gotta learn about something anyways
[20:48] <Ricaz> so which would i choose
[20:48] <Ricaz> something i can put on a USB
[20:48] <holstein> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ is my go-to
[20:49] <holstein> for the hard drive tools
[20:49] <holstein> vendor hard drive tools
[20:49] <holstein> but, trinity has some more advanced resuce tools
[20:52] <seidos> Ricaz: did you try typing *help* when you boot the ubuntu live usb?
[20:53] <seidos> Ricaz: or "live"?
[20:54] <Ricaz> where can i type?
[20:55] <Ricaz> holstein, so with UBCD, how do I make that bootable from USB?
[20:57] <holstein> Ricaz: i use unetbootin
[20:57] <holstein> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:57] <holstein> its in the repos
[21:00] <Ricaz> will it let me do what i need?
[21:11] <Ricaz> how do i list all my drives and what they're called?
[21:11] <holstein> Ricaz: you got options
[21:11] <holstein> thats for sure
[21:12] <holstein> Ricaz: in the terminal
[21:12] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[21:12] <Ricaz> /dev/sdb1 could be my usb drive?
[21:12] <holstein> could be
[21:13] <Ricaz> so, now i just use unetbootin to make whatever live media i want, and that will let me extract the iso i need from my other pc?
[21:14] <holstein> i use unet to make bootable USB sticks
[21:14] <holstein> not everything works
[21:14] <holstein> buntu's work well
[21:14] <Ricaz> ill try ubuntu first, then we'll see if it works better than the one i have now
[21:16] <seidos> Ricaz: i thought there might be a prompt when you attempt to boot
[21:16] <Ricaz> well, i don't see any
[21:17] <seidos> Ricaz: it's happened where a live usb won't boot off the bat, but typing live, or live install will get it to work
[21:17] <seidos> Ricaz: 1
[21:17] <Ricaz> i dont see where you would type that, though
[21:17] <Ricaz> i just start my pc, go to the boot manager and pick the live usb, then it takes me to the screen where i can choose between installing or running, and memtest etc
[21:21] <seidos> Ricaz: so you're able to boot the live usb?
[21:23] <Ricaz> if by boot you mean reach the menu, then yes
[21:23] <Ricaz> seidos, but i cant start nor install ubuntu from it
[21:24] <seidos> Ricaz: i meant completely boot it.
[21:24] <Ricaz> i can't enter ubuntu from it, no
[21:24] <seidos> Ricaz: so when it errors, there isn't a prompt that you can type in?
[21:25] <Ricaz> it doesn't error, my screen just goes blank after the loading if i try to install or start ubuntu
[21:25] <Ricaz> the only place i can type is when i hit TAB to edit the menu entries, then i can edit the commands for each button
[21:26] <seidos> Ricaz: ah, it goes blank.  i didn't take what you said literally enough earlier.
[21:26] <seidos> and it's a 10.04 live usb?  never seen that before.
[21:27] <Ricaz> yep
[21:27] <Ricaz> downloaded from www.ubuntu.com
[21:27] <Ricaz> i'm downloading a 10.10 right now, to see if that works
[21:28] <Ricaz> but earlier you suggested some stuff about using a command; can't i just edit one of the buttons in that menu to execute those?
[21:28] <krogith> hi everyone, not sure if I am in the right room or not but I am pretty much brand new to the whole linux and ubuntu thing and I am trying to get my printer (epson stylus NX215) working but have had no luck, I was wondering if anyone was available to help
[21:29] <holstein> hey krogith :)
[21:29] <holstein> welcome
[21:30] <holstein> is the printer plugged into the computer via USB ?
[21:30] <seidos> Ricaz: can you do an md5sum check on the 10.04 iso?  that might have something to do with the error.  weird.  never seen that before
[21:31] <seidos> i have gotten HP printers to work, there was a printer that i used...it might have been an epson.  i finally got it working.  i had to press the "page feed" button to get it to print
[21:31] <seidos> but it finally did
[21:32] <Ricaz> seidos, i'm currently putting 10.10 on the USB, so if this one doesn't work, i'll do that
[21:33] <seidos> Ricaz: did you make the usb stick from a 10.10 install?
[21:33] <seidos> that reminds me, i need to make a 10.04 live usb for my mom's notebook
[21:34] <seidos> i think she may want to dual boot
[21:34] <Ricaz> this install is 10.4, i'm using UNetbootin to make a 10.10 usb stick
[21:36] <seidos> 10.04
[22:00] <TonyStark> I am IronMan.
[22:08] <lvnvgc> installed 10.10 dell laptop xps hdmi dont work. terminal typed xrandr. said hdmi is disconected how to connect . thinkyou
[22:20] <Fanshawe> Hello. I can't get Empathy to connect to an MSN chat account. I'm sure I have the right password and settings, because those settings work on Pidgin from another computer.
[22:22] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: Empathy from default repos?
[22:23] <Fanshawe> Yes. Maybe I've missed an update?
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know if they put that update through...
[22:24] <MrChrisDruif> MSN protocol got some updates or something since 10-10-10
[22:24] <Fanshawe> I'm updating my empathy packages and retrying...
[22:26] <Fanshawe> Still no dice.
[22:26] <Ricaz> Anyone know how to install nvidia display drivers? on the website it gave me a .run file and told me to use "sh <filename>" to install, but my terminal just returns "couldn't open file"
[22:28] <Ricaz> nevermind, didn't know file was case sensitive
[22:28] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: .run? Anyways, I think you should right click > properties > Permissions > Allow executing as program
[22:28] <Fanshawe> Still nothing over here. Are there any other updates I should perform?
[22:28] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: In Linux EVERYTHING is case sensitive :)
[22:28] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: Did you add the empathy ppa?
[22:29] <Ricaz> MrChrisDruif, that should be the same, I can only open it in terminal, though. Now it complains about me running an X server, which I also don't know what is.
[22:32] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: X server is used for you graphical environment
[22:32] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_server
[22:33] <Fanshawe> Mr.ChrisDruif: empathy ppa?
[22:33] <Ricaz> So, to fix it I need to ctrl+alt+f2 and disable that, then run that file again, and enable X once more?
[22:33] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: Did nvidia provide an readme file?
[22:33] <Ricaz> not really, but other people seems to have the same problem
[22:34] <Ricaz> can i still paste from clipboard if I go to ctrl+alt+f2?
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: It should....otherwise you can reboot, it should restore to gnome :)
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> !ppa
[22:35] <ubot2> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: ^
[22:38] <Fanshawe> Thank you. Are you talking about a particular PPA?
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, the one of empathy :)
[22:39] <GST> got a quick question if anyone's up for it?
[22:39] <Ricaz> Why is it so damn hard to install drivers?
[22:40] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy/+archive/ppa and this ppa from it: ppa:telepathy/ppa
[22:40] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: Didn't Ubuntu invite you to install proprietary drivers in the beginning?
[22:40] <MrChrisDruif> GST: Sure, shoot
[22:41] <Ricaz> but I have no idea if they're the newest
[22:41] <GST> Looking for an app (may not have been official) that enabled Admin/Sudo for 15 minutes at a time, thought it would come in useful as I re-install programs over the next few days. I found something when I was using Wubi, but today I went ahead and shrank my partition to give 100GB for a "real" ubuntu partition.
[22:41] <MrChrisDruif> Ricaz: Probably not the bleeding edge, but still good enough right?
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> GST: Why do you need it? :)
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> Default is 5 mins...
[22:42] <GST> That works, so long as I can avoid typing in the password
[22:43] <GST> I have nothing against it as I'm a fairly fast typer, it's just a transitional thing
[22:43] <MrChrisDruif> GST: If your "really" want to prolong it, why not do sudo su? You go into super user mode
[22:44] <lvnvgc> installed ubuntu 10.10 dell laptop xps hdmi port dont work. at the terminal i typed xrandr. said hdmi is disconnected how do i connect hdmi port. thankyou
[22:44] <GST> Thanks, I'll look into it, I'm not all that well-versed in terminals/command prompt logic yet, but I'm working on it ; )
[22:45] <aveilleux> GST: You can also use sudo -i instead of sudo su
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> aveilleux: sudo -i?
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> Interactive?
[22:45] <aveilleux> MrChrisDruif: Exactly
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> And that prolongs it as well?
[22:46] <aveilleux> MrChrisDruif: Yes, it's essentially sudo su except you're running as yourself with elevated privileges rather than root
[22:46] <MrChrisDruif> Alright...
[22:46] <GST> I'll give that a shot.
[22:47] <MrChrisDruif> GST: As you see I'm no terminal wizard yet :P
[22:48] <Fanshawe> I updated the MSN connection manager package. Hanging on 'Connecting...' but I think I'm getting there.
[22:48] <GST> Yeah, I've done a little navigating, not much else though.
[22:49] <GST> @ lvnvgc - did you install the proprietary laptop / video-card drivers (if your XPS has a dedicated card) I'd think that that may be necessary
[22:49] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: Great to hear :)
[22:50] <MrChrisDruif> XPS is eXtreme Performance System if I'm not mistaken...so your probably right GST
[22:50] <Fanshawe> Still hanging. I'm a bit stumped.
[22:50] <lvnvgc> I Installed them
[22:51] <GST> Well, it depends Chris.  I used to have an XPS, I just hope the quality's gone up since 2009.
[22:51] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: I prefer Pidgin above Empathy anyway O:-)
[22:51] <aveilleux> Empathy is not very good :/
[22:53] <GST> I like it so far, but I'm not a very social person, so I wouldn't know.  Simple, easy to use, good basic package =O
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> aveilleux: +1
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> GST: So is Pidgin ;)
[22:53] <Fanshawe> True, but I like all the integration in Ubuntu.
[22:54] <GST> Same
[22:56] <MrChrisDruif> What does Empathy that Pidgin doesn't? :)
[22:56] <MrChrisDruif> (It's going a bit offtopic thou)
[22:58] <GST> I think that the main thing is that it's just bundled w/ Ubuntu for inital-use integration that makes it attractive, besides being a cross-IM client.
[22:59] <MrChrisDruif> GST: Pidgin "used" to be the default :) And not only is it cross-IM, it's also cross-platform :)
[23:00] <GST> Well no one was arguing about the capabilities, lol.  I think my best friend uses Pidgin anyhow.
[23:00] <GST> Is it possible to manually install video drivers? Mainly configuring Lutris (for emulation) & POL at the moment
[23:03] <lvnvgc> i will try im a beginer thankyou
[23:03] <JackyAlcine> aveilleux: +1
[23:04] <GST> lvnvgc > Administration > Additional Drivers
[23:05] <lvnvgc> lspci -nn | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:29c2] (rev 10)
[23:05] <MrChrisDruif> I hope I helped everyone ( GST, Fanshawe, Ricaz ) ok tonight, otherwise I hope that others can help you :)
[23:05] <GST> G'nite Mr. Chris
[23:05] <Ricaz> you sure did, thanks for your patience :) gnite
[23:06] <MrChrisDruif> Always a pleasure Ricaz :)
[23:06] <MrChrisDruif> Bye :D
[23:08] <Fanshawe> Whoops, missed my chance to say thanks.
[23:09] <Fanshawe> Thanks anyway, MrChrisDruif, where ever you may be.