| hallyn | jbernard: no, it's not. because first it wants to create some subdirectories. and that isn't allowed | 00:00 |
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| psusi | hrm... what happened to external media being auto mounted with -o uid=,gid=? I thought that had been working for some time to override the permissions on broken filesystems... where is that implemented these days? udisks right? | 00:06 |
| persia | psusi, Yes. | 00:08 |
| hallyn | (sorry, didn't mean to sound harsh - libcg itself has just somehow never struck the right chord with me. it *should*, except i prefer scripts to magic fragile configfiles) | 00:08 |
| psusi | hrm... I'll have to take a look at the code then.. I have been sorting through some old dvd+rw discs and I couldn't access this one because it wasn't mounted with the uid,gid options... | 00:09 |
| hallyn | jbernard: I'm waiting for confirmation from two bug reporters, but I expect to be doing a merge request for https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/libcgroup/upstart/ | 00:16 |
| hallyn | jbernard: (or I can send it as a debian bug report? dunno what you prefer) | 00:17 |
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| \sh | moins | 00:20 |
| broder | hallyn: is this different from /dev/cgroup/cpu? | 00:23 |
| jbernard | hallyn: a bug would work well, but i don't have a strong perference | 00:24 |
| poolie | scottk, i will make the LEP and bug more clear re the celebrity thing | 01:10 |
| poolie | btw, dkim stuff is on the back burner but not totally cold | 01:10 |
| poolie | i hope to enable it for your domain soon | 01:10 |
| ScottK | OK. | 01:10 |
| ScottK | It seemed like a jargon term that would have been well understood by the LP people on the list and I didn't want to mis-guess what it meant. | 01:11 |
| poolie | sure | 01:14 |
| poolie | undoubtedly there will also be some ubuntu jargon that goes over my head too, or lp devs heads | 01:14 |
| poolie | biab | 01:14 |
| ScottK | Certainly, that's why it's important to check on such things and make sure we have a common understanding. | 01:15 |
| YokoZar | ScottK: I've been getting lots of spam from forged @ubuntu.com addresses...would you take it personally if Canonical wasn't running SPF on the ubuntu.com domain? ;) | 01:48 |
| ScottK | Not sure what you mean? | 01:48 |
| ScottK | YokoZar: There is no SPF record for ubuntu.com | 01:49 |
| YokoZar | Right | 01:49 |
| YokoZar | I vaguely remember a conversation at an airport with you about you having a big role in SPF | 01:50 |
| ScottK | I was involved in it's development. | 01:50 |
| ScottK | The trick is that to publish a useful SPF record, Canonical would have to give Ubuntu members a way to send through an authorized outbound relay. | 01:51 |
| YokoZar | And thus it seems silly that we don't use it ;) | 01:51 |
| ScottK | I doubt they're up for that. | 01:51 |
| maco | forging is how i send emails from my @ubuntu.com address | 01:51 |
| maco | kmail makes it easy! | 01:51 |
| YokoZar | Yeah, true | 01:51 |
| micahg | yep, me too :) | 01:51 |
| maco | (my dad was really really O_O when i said i could send an email from him from my computer instead of from his lotus | 01:51 |
| maco | ) | 01:51 |
| broder | ScottK: wait, i thought there was a relay server i could send mail through for ubuntu.com... | 01:52 |
| ScottK | Is there? | 01:52 |
| broder | apparently not | 01:52 |
| broder | i thought i remembered configuring gmail with one, but i'm looking at it and i clearly didn't | 01:52 |
| maco | i use gmail as a relay | 01:52 |
| maco | nah all you're doing in the case you make gmail able to send from it is telling gmail to forge it | 01:52 |
| broder | right, right | 01:52 |
| maco | they at least check that you actually have access to the account (by sending a confirmation email) first | 01:53 |
| ScottK | We can use indium to send mail to LP, but that's all I know of. | 01:53 |
| broder | clearly we need an implementations of gmail's oauth sasl extension in postfix and major clients so we can authenticate against launchpad to an ubuntu.com MTA | 01:54 |
| persia | I'm not sure I'd like to see SPF for @ubuntu.com. I don't mind as much if someone pretends to be me when there's no confirmation that they are indeed me. | 01:54 |
| persia | broder, Hrm. I suppose that might work. | 01:55 |
| broder | persia: except for the part where client support is guaranteed to be awful for the next N years | 01:55 |
| ScottK | persia: SPF makes no assertion that mail is really from us, just that it came from a relay authorized by the domain owner. | 01:56 |
| ScottK | So your deniability is still secure. | 01:56 |
| persia | broder, All mail clients have been miserable and bad for the past 40 years. I don't see why that would change. | 01:57 |
| broder | touche | 01:57 |
| persia | ScottK, I know that, and you know that, but being the sort of person who regularly needs to defend deniability, I prefer when there isn't even an implication. | 01:57 |
| ScottK | persia: If they ever corner you, you can also pull out DNS cache poisoning. | 01:58 |
| ScottK | (as an added reason why it wasn't you) | 01:58 |
| persia | Heh. It won't come to that. I just don't see the value in a relatively open SPF-certified relay. | 01:59 |
| ScottK | Also bad and miserable does have degrees. If not, evolution wouldn't exist. | 01:59 |
| persia | Something like oauth could do it, but that's awkward to implement. | 01:59 |
| ScottK | I think it's not mostly interesting for the ones that might be OK, it's interesting for the ones that probably aren't. | 02:00 |
| * persia hugs bug #110840 and continues not to use evolution | 02:00 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 110840 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution stores mail insecurely" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110840 | 02:00 |
| maco | persia: is that a reference to how im able to grep my emails if i use evolution instea of waiting for it to load and search? | 02:01 |
| persia | maco, No, it's a reference about how I'm able to grep your mail in evolution without even pretending to be you. | 02:01 |
| maco | persia: if home dirs were 700 this wouldnt be a problem... | 02:01 |
| persia | ScottK, How do you mean (re: mostly interesting)? | 02:03 |
| ScottK | I rarely find "It passed SPF" very interesting except for a very restricted set of domains. | 02:04 |
| persia | Ah. For those domains that are mostly-spam, it becomes an interesting way of identifying potential ham? | 02:04 |
| ScottK | OTOH, "It failed/didn't pass (those aren't quite the same thing) is broadly interesting. | 02:04 |
| persia | failed means it originated from a non-certified host, and didn't pass means that there are no certified hosts? | 02:05 |
| ScottK | Didn't pass includes Fail, Softfail, Neutral, and error results. | 02:05 |
| ScottK | So failed is a subset. | 02:06 |
| ScottK | Finding bad domains isn't very interesting. | 02:06 |
| persia | Ah. That makes sense. What's the difference between Fail and Softfail? | 02:06 |
| ScottK | Softfail is like "We think it's not authorized, but we're not ready to commit to the completness of our list yet" | 02:07 |
| ScottK | persia: The formal definition is http://www.openspf.org/RFC_4408#op-result-softfail | 02:09 |
| * persia was starting with http://www.openspf.org/FAQ/What_is_SPF :) | 02:09 | |
| ScottK | Anyway, bad domains are boring because they send nothing but crap whether it passes or not. | 02:09 |
| ScottK | Good domains are interesting because threat/not threat tends to match very closely with SPF result. | 02:10 |
| persia | And most domains are neutral? | 02:11 |
| ScottK | The published statistics I've seen seem to say that ~half of email has an SPF record for it. | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Most large domains don't want to take the hard line of saying "If it's not from an authorized source, treat it badly" since they don't want complaints. | 02:12 |
| persia | That's interesting. I read that as "most spammers have adopted SPF" | 02:12 |
| ScottK | A lot of people have on both sides of the fence. | 02:13 |
| ScottK | The nice thing about spammers adopting SPF is that it makes it possible to automatically construct reliable domain black lists. | 02:13 |
| ScottK | "Gee, all crap from that domain and it passes SPF, so they sent it - next time I'll just reject it after mail from" | 02:14 |
| persia | Indeed. makes the construction of rule semantics that much richer. | 02:14 |
| ScottK | It you look at just SPF pass, domains tend to be either virtually all ham or all spam. The middle ground is very small. | 02:15 |
| persia | Isn't that the point? | 02:15 |
| persia | I presume that domains without useful control over sending relays (e.g. @ubuntu.com) mostly choose not to participate currently. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | It also turns out to be hard for large entities to delpoy accurately just because they don't know their outbound architecture very well. | 02:17 |
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| wgwinn | has ubuntu 10.10 removed kmalloc.h from the kernel source? i'm trying to install the hyper-v v2 drivers and it's failing on kmalloc , and i cant find the function defined anywhere | 02:48 |
| broder | wgwinn: looks like it's in <linux/slab.h> | 02:57 |
| wgwinn | i dont see it there, but i will reread it | 03:02 |
| Darxus | Where can I vote for Obnoxious Orangutan? :) | 03:04 |
| ScottK | Can't vote on that. This is not (mostly) a democracy. | 03:05 |
| persia | Darxus, We don't vote. One of the privileges of the self-appointed benevolent dictator for life is the selection of the codenames for each release. | 03:05 |
| wgwinn | using linux-headers-2.6.35-22/include/linux/slab.h has references to kmalloc() but does not define it. | 03:08 |
| broder | wgwinn: well, there are lots of comments in the linux source tree to the effect of "#include <linux/slab.h> /* for kmalloc, kfree */", so i suspect it's included from there or something | 03:09 |
| Darxus | Yeah, I figured I couldn't actually vote, but I'd love to see that name happen. | 03:25 |
| Yanks | !ops | 03:37 |
| Yanks | you know ur motherboard has 250$ worth of gold in it? | 03:37 |
| Yanks | you know ur motherboard has 250$ worth of gold in it? | 03:38 |
| Yanks | !staff | 03:38 |
| hallyn | weird | 03:42 |
| psusi | hallyn, were those -part changes only for the symlinks in /dev/by-id, or did they also change the name in /dev/mapper? | 03:54 |
| achiang | any network-manager hackers around? | 03:56 |
| achiang | or for that matter, people who know how to debug dbus/python stuff? | 03:57 |
| persia | achiang, Try asking the question you would ask if someone said "yes" | 03:58 |
| Yanks | you know ur motherboard has 250$ worth of gold in it? | 03:58 |
| achiang | using maverick, playing around with the NetworkManager dbus api, and getting a rather basic error when trying to run some of the sample code --getting a dbus error: "ListConnections" with signature "" on interface "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings" doesn't exist | 03:59 |
| ohsix | mine has none, it has molybdenum :[ | 03:59 |
| Yanks | you know ur motherboard has 250$ worth of gold in it? | 04:00 |
| Yanks | !ops | 04:00 |
| achiang | basically, i'm wondering if the NM in maverick presents that interface or not; it seems like it should, since we have NM 0.8+ and that is a 0.8 API | 04:00 |
| Yanks | !ops | 04:00 |
| Yanks | !ops | 04:00 |
| Yanks | !ops | 04:00 |
| Yanks | !ops | 04:00 |
| Darxus | 04:39 | |
| broder | achiang: yeah, that should work. i'm pretty sure i've used it before. can you pastebin the command/code you're trying to call it with? | 05:04 |
| achiang | broder: i was just kinda playing around and fixed my own problem | 05:05 |
| achiang | broder: thanks though | 05:05 |
| broder | achiang: cool | 05:05 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:17 |
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| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| didrocks | ogra: I think the unity team will need your armel knowledge: bug #721118 :) | 08:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 721118 in nux (Ubuntu) "Nux FTBFS on armel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721118 | 08:22 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:57 |
| didrocks | good morning Mr Holbach :) | 09:00 |
| dholbach | bdrung, pulled lp:ubuntu-sponsoring | 09:04 |
| dholbach | salut didrocks - comment ça va mon ami? | 09:04 |
| didrocks | dholbach: ça va très bien, merci! et toi? | 09:05 |
| dholbach | très bien aussi, merci beaucoup :) | 09:05 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 09:27 |
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| jamespage | Morning | 09:52 |
| jamespage | any chance that a member of the MIR team could review bug 676904 for me | 09:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 676904 in jansi-native (Ubuntu) "[MIR] jansi" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676904 | 09:53 |
| seb128 | @pilot in | 10:32 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: cdbs, seb128 | ||
| cjwatson | persia: can you update the developer-membership-board@ list membership when you have a chance? I just realised I forgot to do this before resigning moderator access | 10:36 |
| ogra | didrocks, well, stop casting bigger types into smaller ones and it will build i'd say :) | 10:38 |
| didrocks | ogra: tell that to the dx team :p can you give them an help (not really confident with thoses)? | 10:39 |
| ogra | i havent looked at the code yet, only at te error, but its likely that the target type is simply smaller under arm | 10:39 |
| ogra | (int vs long or something like that) | 10:41 |
| ogra | janimo, didnt you fix that before ? (bug 721118) or was that something else | 10:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 721118 in nux (Ubuntu) "Unity FTBFS on armel due to Nux" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721118 | 10:43 |
| janimo | ogra, I fixed one instance, but there may be new ones. I'll check | 10:44 |
| Daviey | asac, kees, doko__ , didrocks: jamespage's MIR (bug 676904) is pertinent to other things he needs to work on for release, so if you could look at the MIR soonish - it would be appreciated. | 10:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 676904 in jansi-native (Ubuntu) "[MIR] jansi" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676904 | 10:44 |
| Daviey | thanks :) | 10:44 |
| ogra | janimo, gracias :) | 10:44 |
| janimo | ogra, this is another issue. Sigh, nux reimplements a lot of stuff that is already handled by glib | 10:47 |
| ogra | oh my | 10:47 |
| ogra | do we know why ? | 10:47 |
| janimo | unicode, timers, threads | 10:47 |
| janimo | legacy | 10:48 |
| ogra | tsk | 10:48 |
| janimo | but mainatiner said they at least consider moving to glib | 10:48 |
| ogra | good | 10:48 |
| janimo | it started out as a from scratch project maybe without any external deps, so implements a lot of basic win/unix stuff | 10:48 |
| ogra | yeah, that should be fixed | 10:49 |
| ogra | reinventing the wheel doesnt really save time | 10:49 |
| seb128 | hum, wth, on a fresh natty install I get no keyboard working on the gdm screen | 11:38 |
| seb128 | but keyboard works in a vt and on the livecd image | 11:38 |
| RAOF | Uuuh, Xorg.0.log would be the first candidate for a debug hunt. | 11:39 |
| RAOF | That's a kinda important piece of functionality :) | 11:40 |
| seb128 | startx returns | 11:40 |
| seb128 | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting | 11:40 |
| seb128 | wtf | 11:40 |
| RAOF | Run as root? | 11:43 |
| seb128 | why do I need to? | 11:43 |
| RAOF | It needs root to do VT switching properly, at least. | 11:43 |
| seb128 | startx always worked? | 11:43 |
| RAOF | But have we stopped installing it setuid, I wonder? | 11:43 |
| seb128 | sudo startx works | 11:43 |
| RAOF | I have to admit to not testing startx very often. | 11:44 |
| seb128 | RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu.com/568688/ | 11:45 |
| seb128 | that's the Xorg log | 11:45 |
| seb128 | seems to configure the keyboard, wth | 11:47 |
| seb128 | bah and the box crash on vt switch | 11:48 |
| RAOF | Hm. Well, it certainly looks like it's loading evdev for what it believes to be the keyboard, so it's not that. | 11:48 |
| seb128 | keyboard works in a sudo startx session, go figure | 11:49 |
| seb128 | oh, the gdm log has some clue | 11:50 |
| seb128 | "This incident has been reported. | 11:50 |
| seb128 | Error: No Symbols named "oss" in the include "us"" | 11:50 |
| seb128 | seems like ubiquity did set up a broken keyboard config | 11:50 |
| seb128 | ok, works now after tweaking the keyboard config | 11:55 |
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| ogra | TheMuso, how does the alsa upgrade to new upstream go ? | 12:56 |
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| PetrHH | Hello | 13:27 |
| PetrHH | I'm trying to package my program into deb. It is my first deb package ever. Package is creating without any problem but lintian utils still writes some errors. These errors: http://pastebin.com/HQPvL5UM | 13:28 |
| PetrHH | but I have no idea what does it means. Could anybody help me, please? | 13:29 |
| Laney | PetrHH: run lintian with --info and you'll get more explanation of each of those warnings | 13:31 |
| PetrHH | Laney, thank you! | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | kees: sorry for pinging you again but, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcmtk/+bug/702026/comments/6 | 13:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 702026 in dcmtk (Debian) "[MIR] dcmtk" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 13:57 |
| PetrHH | Laney, do you know what file in debian directory is called maintainer script? I have to add there #DEBHELPER#. | 14:07 |
| asac | PetrHH: typically debian/*.{post,pre}{inst,rm} | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | the term "maintainer script" is defined in the Debian Policy Manual: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html | 14:09 |
| PetrHH | asac, thank you! Now I solved all warnings of lintian util | 14:10 |
| asac | PetrHH: read what cjwatson gave you though | 14:10 |
| PetrHH | cjwatson, Thank you for link, I'll look at it. | 14:10 |
| asac | ;) | 14:10 |
| asac | np | 14:10 |
| ari-tczew | what do you think about version *ubuntu1b1 for rebuild? | 14:14 |
| dholbach | how about just ubuntu2? | 14:15 |
| Laney | dch --rebuild will give you a reasonable version string to use | 14:19 |
| cjwatson | oubiwann: whom should I talk to about a utouch packaging problem that's breaking debian-installer builds? | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | oubiwann: I can fix it, just want to make sure I'm not stepping on anyone's toes | 14:29 |
| oubiwann | oubiwann: cnd is the first person | 14:29 |
| oubiwann | which package? | 14:29 |
| oubiwann | cjwatson: er, don't know why I just called you myself... | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | utouch-frame - it needs to have a udeb added, then utouch-grail needs rebuilt against that | 14:30 |
| cnd | cjwatson, ahh yes | 14:30 |
| cnd | I thought we added one | 14:30 |
| cnd | oubiwann, is bregma free to handle it? | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | utouch-evemu and utouch-grail have udebs, but -frame doesn't | 14:30 |
| cnd | yeah | 14:31 |
| cnd | cjwatson, btw, I thought we didn't use d-i? | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | we do | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | (we had this discussion before :) ) | 14:31 |
| ogra | oubiwann, thats because all of us want to be like cjwatson ;) | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | I can just submit a branch if that's easiest | 14:31 |
| oubiwann | ogra: hahaha | 14:31 |
| cnd | cjwatson, then my memory is failing :) | 14:31 |
| cnd | cjwatson, that's easy enough | 14:31 |
| bregma | what have I done this time? | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | 14:30 <cjwatson> utouch-evemu and utouch-grail have udebs, but -frame doesn't | 14:32 |
| cjwatson | breaks the debian-installer build - I think I'll just send you a branch for it | 14:32 |
| cnd | cjwatson, once you submit, we'll review and approve, then you can merge it and push to ubuntu proper | 14:32 |
| cnd | is that reasonable for you? | 14:32 |
| cnd | as a core dev you have write access to our packaging branch | 14:33 |
| cjwatson | np | 14:33 |
| bregma | hmpf, rydberg was asked to remove the udeb from utouch-frame to get it into universe | 14:33 |
| cjwatson | whoever asked him that was wrong | 14:33 |
| cnd | bregma, who told him to do that? | 14:33 |
| bregma | jeez, I can;t remember that, it was weeks ago | 14:34 |
| cnd | heh :) | 14:34 |
| cnd | we must have a witch hunt! | 14:34 |
| cnd | just throw out a name | 14:34 |
| cnd | any name | 14:34 |
| bregma | burnings! | 14:34 |
| cnd | as long as it's not me :) | 14:34 |
| oubiwann | hehe | 14:34 |
| oubiwann | no bus throwing! | 14:34 |
| oubiwann | we'll just make sure we'll share the good info next time :-) | 14:35 |
| bregma | as long as it gets fixed | 14:35 |
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| cjwatson | bregma: looking at bzr history, the prior problem was that 'DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libutouch-frame1 = --add-udeb=libutouch-frame1-udeb' was in debian/rules, but there was no declaration for that package in debian/control | 14:39 |
| cjwatson | and no .install file for it | 14:39 |
| bregma | yeah, the udeb was removed prior to that but the packaging was not cleaned up properly | 14:39 |
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| === herton is now known as herton_lunch | ||
| notch | hi, im trying to customize gajim package from ppa. In the rules file there is "ubuntu-prepare" target. I dont see any place where is it called. Is it standard target? Where can i find some documentation about it? | 15:22 |
| jibel | mvo, Hi, we receive lot of reports from users failing to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 because of xorg-xserver-video-nouveau like bug 721306. Usually purging xserver-xorg-video-nouveau does the trick. Can we do something with update-manager to fix that ? | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 721306 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Can't upgrade from 10.04LTS to 10.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721306 | 15:36 |
| ara | cjwatson, remember the testing that you asked us to do in a broad set of HW, looking for corruptions in the splash screen? | 15:43 |
| ara | is this still needed? and if it is, what exactly do you need? | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | ara: yes, I'd basically like a summary of hardware that "looks wrong" during the splash screen process | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | especially cases where it fails to get successfully to X | 15:47 |
| ara | cjwatson, OK, thanks | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | but also cases where the splash is something other than a correct-looking aubergine graphics-mode screen or a correct-looking aubergine text-mode screen | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | and I'd like to know whether the GRUB menu (hold shift at boot) is legible | 15:48 |
| cjwatson | on many systems there will still be a black screen for some period during boot; I don't need to know about that, for the time being | 15:49 |
| mvo | jibel: sure | 15:49 |
| mvo | jibel: I can add code for tihs | 15:50 |
| ara | cjwatson, all noted, thanks a lot for your input | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | great, appreciated | 15:51 |
| jibel | mvo, this is probable caused by the fix for bug 614993 | 15:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 614993 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade fails: pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks: xserver-xorg-video-v4l demoted to universe" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614993 | 15:52 |
| seb128_ | jdstrand, hey, do you want to sponsor the lucid security update on bug #718127? | 15:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 718127 in squid3 (Ubuntu Lucid) "CVE-2010-2951 and CVE-2010-3072 still exists in Lucid and CVE-2010-2951 still exists in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718127 | 15:52 |
| mvo | jibel: thanks, that is indeed anoying if this is caused by a regression | 15:53 |
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| seb128 | zul, hey, do you think you could sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~hudson-ubuntu/ubuntu/natty/libcommons-collections-java/bug-717157/+merge/49397? | 16:01 |
| zul | seb128: of course give me a couple of minutes | 16:01 |
| seb128 | zul, thanks | 16:02 |
| === herton_lunch is now known as herton | ||
| zul | seb128: merged do you want me to upload it while im at it | 16:08 |
| seb128 | zul, would be nice, thanks | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | persia: should I adjust ~developer-membership-board's membership in light of the recent election? | 16:09 |
| zul | seb128: done | 16:12 |
| seb128 | zul, thanks | 16:12 |
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| mvo | ScottK: hey, the backports-not-automatic stuff is finally making some progress again (apt had landed, python-apt support as well) | 16:29 |
| ScottK | mvo: Great to hear. Very cool. | 16:29 |
| ScottK | mvo: Is that all of it at the tool level? | 16:30 |
| ScottK | I know software center and other applications could use some U/I to support it. | 16:30 |
| mvo | ScottK: the missing bits now are sofware-center ui and/or update-manager ui. plus support in aptdaemon | 16:31 |
| mvo | actually aptdaemon needs to come first, then s-c and/or u-m | 16:31 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:31 |
| mvo | for u-m there is a branch already thats sort of working | 16:31 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 16:31 |
| mvo | but the hard work was done (donkult is as always the guy to thank) | 16:32 |
| ScottK | Excellent news. | 16:32 |
| ScottK | I guess I should figure out how to get the relevant Launchpad change done now. | 16:32 |
| ScottK | (I assume it still needs one) | 16:32 |
| mvo | oh, indeed | 16:32 |
| ScottK | I'll work on that then. | 16:32 |
| mvo | that needs to be done as well (also it should be the smallest amount of work, fingers crossed) | 16:32 |
| ScottK | I'll see what I can find out about that. | 16:35 |
| mvo | ScottK: time is short (unfortunately) until FF, but lets see what we can do. in any case, the important groundwork is done now (that blocked us) | 16:36 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 16:36 |
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| didrocks | is there some known eglibc issue reported from today's upload? | 17:25 |
| DBO | doko__, I am here for blood | 17:26 |
| didrocks | DBO is hitting http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12454 | 17:26 |
| DBO | and is here for blood | 17:26 |
| didrocks | :) | 17:26 |
| DBO | gah, half my stuff wont start | 17:27 |
| didrocks | I don't want to screw my box for testing :) | 17:28 |
| DBO | dont worry | 17:28 |
| DBO | I already did that for you | 17:28 |
| DBO | its borked | 17:29 |
| didrocks | DBO: downgrade on your box first | 17:29 |
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| DBO | downgrade worked | 17:33 |
| DBO | but... 2.13 sounds sexy | 17:34 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: doko__ ^^ | 17:34 |
| DBO | and my update manager wishes me to upgrade again | 17:34 |
| didrocks | DBO: it's a trap! :-) | 17:34 |
| DBO | its a tarp! | 17:35 |
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| doko | hmm, I did build a compiler with it | 17:36 |
| DBO | doko, I couldn't start quite a few applications with the new glibc | 17:39 |
| DBO | it basically broke a large (but seemingly random) percentage of my apps | 17:40 |
| DBO | doko, are you running 32 or 64 bit? | 17:41 |
| kees | shadeslayer: I've updated the bug report to point out the duplicated code | 17:50 |
| hallyn | when i do 'bzr branch lp:debian/experimental/multipath-tools', it works. but when i do 'bzr branch lp:debian/unstable/multipath-tools', that doesn't exist. Likewise, I can't "pull-debian-source multipath-tools". Can anyone explain why? The package does seem to exist by that name as per http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/multipath-tools | 17:58 |
| jelmer_ | hallyn, hi | 17:59 |
| jelmer_ | hallyn, does lp:debian/sid/multipath-tools work? | 17:59 |
| hallyn | jelmer_: jinkeys, it does, thanks. | 18:00 |
| hallyn | but so why does pull-debian-source not work? | 18:00 |
| jelmer_ | hallyn: there's an open bug about supporting the unstable, testing and stable aliases in launchpad (don't have the bug # here though) | 18:01 |
| seb128 | @pilot out | 18:01 |
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| jelmer_ | have a nice weekend seb128 :) | 18:02 |
| seb128 | jelmer_, thanks! | 18:02 |
| seb128 | you as well ;-) | 18:02 |
| hallyn | jelmer_: thanks | 18:02 |
| jelmer_ | hallyn: How does pull-debian-source fail? | 18:02 |
| jelmer_ | hallyn: it fetches 0.4.8+git0.761c66f for me | 18:05 |
| jelmer_ | seb128: Thanks :) | 18:05 |
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| hallyn | jelmer_: well what the heck. I tried three times and got 'Unable to find mulitpath-tools in unstable'. Now it fetched it | 18:06 |
| hallyn | thanks, looks like I"m all set now :) | 18:06 |
| doko | DBO: did you test this patch? | 18:10 |
| DBO | i did not | 18:10 |
| bdmurray | doko: I've run into the same issue with evolution on x86_64 | 18:14 |
| marcrouse | hi | 18:18 |
| marcrouse | i suche logari81 | 18:18 |
| Chipzz | marcrouse: first of all the official language of this channel is English; you're highly unlikely to get an answer in a different language | 18:19 |
| marcrouse | i m sorry | 18:20 |
| marcrouse | i search logari81 | 18:20 |
| Chipzz | 2nd, my last log shows no occurence of that name; it's not very likely you'll find some random user here (unless of course there's good reason to believe he frequents this channel; which I doubt there is) | 18:20 |
| Chipzz | (I read the backlog of this channel regulary, and I don't recall seeing anyone by that name talk here either recently or at all) | 18:22 |
| doko | bdmurray, DBO: just uploaded a test package to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test/ currently building | 18:22 |
| DBO | okie dokie | 18:22 |
| Chipzz | marcrouse: I see the guy has a PPA; I would suggest you ask in #ubuntu-motu, chances are ppl over there have seen him | 18:25 |
| Chipzz | marcrouse: (#ubuntu-devel is mostly (99%) about the development of ubuntu main; discussion of PPA's (unless they contain software which is in main) is done in #ubuntu-motu) | 18:26 |
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| doko | bdmurray, DBO: amd64 build finished | 18:43 |
| DBO | doko, will test in a bit | 18:45 |
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| doko | bdmurray, DBO: away for the evening | 19:11 |
| ScottK | hallyn: pull-debian-source works fine here. | 19:12 |
| DBO | doko, understood | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Ah, I see you got it working. | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Chipzz: PPA's aren't on topic in #ubuntu-motu either. | 19:13 |
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| didrocks | ScottK: hey | 19:29 |
| didrocks | ScottK: did you follow the eglibc issue? | 19:29 |
| ScottK | didrocks: I've read the stuff on IRC. | 19:30 |
| ScottK | (and I'm not updating anything just now as a result) | 19:30 |
| didrocks | DBO: did you try the patched version? will be nice to know before the week-end if the new one is working | 19:30 |
| didrocks | ScottK: just trying to figure if we should revert or not for amd64 users (I'm on i386, so can't test) | 19:31 |
| DBO | i will test in a minute | 19:31 |
| DBO | mmm cheese and mustard are a good combo | 19:31 |
| Chipzz | ScottK: ah k. thought they were | 19:36 |
| ScottK | Chipzz: We do Ubuntu in there too. | 19:36 |
| Chipzz | ScottK: universe and multiverse that I know of idd | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Chipzz: Yes. In Ubuntu. PPA's aren't part of Ubuntu, so they're no more on topic there than here. | 19:38 |
| micahg | PPA packaging can be discussed in #ubuntu-packaging, PPA support would be in #launchpad | 19:39 |
| dobey | i guess problems with a particular PPA should be discussed with the PPA owner though, not #launchpad or #ubuntu-packaging, in general | 19:40 |
| dobey | which is what i guess the guy was trying to do, but the owner wasn't in here | 19:41 |
| Chipzz | and the chance of him being in #ubuntu-motu was higher | 19:43 |
| cjwatson | didrocks: please do not revert libc6 | 19:44 |
| cjwatson | didrocks: the dependency chaos would be horrible | 19:44 |
| cjwatson | we need to go forward there, not backward | 19:44 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: that's why I didn't want to do that on my own :) | 19:44 |
| didrocks | (and was waiting) | 19:44 |
| dobey | i don't know if that's true, but /whois should answer whether someone is on irc or not | 19:45 |
| cjwatson | if somebody can confirm the upload doko referred to, I can upload it | 19:45 |
| didrocks | I think DBO will test in a few | 19:45 |
| DBO | I am testing hold on | 19:46 |
| DBO | I dont like installing ppas is all... | 19:46 |
| cjwatson | (well, not right now because it's my daughter's bathtime, but this evening) | 19:46 |
| DBO | gah | 19:46 |
| DBO | there are other thing in that PPA | 19:46 |
| DBO | time to download debs | 19:47 |
| hallyn | ||http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568876/ | 19:49 |
| hallyn | oops, sorry | 19:49 |
| hallyn | misfir | 19:50 |
| DBO | cjwatson, the fix does not work | 20:00 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, doko: since the update doesn't work and natty is broken should we consider asking to block the binaries from being downloaded? | 20:01 |
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| janimo | which package sets up the 'Restart Needed' notification after certain kernel upgrades? | 20:34 |
| ohsix | good question, you could look in the debian dir in the source package | 20:37 |
| janimo | ohsix, I was hoping someone knows so I don't have to look in the various kernel related packages :) | 20:40 |
| ohsix | i think i might have it laying around already, one sec | 20:40 |
| ohsix | ah nope i rm'd it | 20:40 |
| cjwatson | seb128: I'm not happy with that either, that would be massive disruption | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | DBO: do you have any more details? | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | DBO: which architecture are you using? | 20:42 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, we got Jason and bdmurray to confirm and bug reports with duplicates | 20:42 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, using amd64 | 20:42 |
| cjwatson | does it happen on i386? | 20:42 |
| soren | Sorry, which binaries are we talking about? | 20:42 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, i.s got asked to block the amd64 binaires | 20:42 |
| cjwatson | soren: eglibc | 20:42 |
| soren | Erk. | 20:42 |
| cjwatson | argh | 20:42 |
| seb128 | soren, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/721469 | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 721469 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "program startup fails with "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-deps.c: 622: _dl_map_object_deps: Assertion `nlist > 1' failed!"" [Critical,Triaged] | 20:42 |
| soren | I was *just* about to update my laptop and test systems. Phew. | 20:43 |
| jcastro | soren: likewise | 20:43 |
| highvoltage | jcastro: you're an omg!ubuntu writer now? | 20:44 |
| jcastro | heh | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | DBO: did you get literally the same error message with the upgraded libc? | 20:45 |
| cjwatson | DBO: I'd appreciate a copy-and-paste of the error you get with the new libc packages | 20:45 |
| ricotz | soren, hello, are you the right one who can look at a plymouth package? | 20:45 |
| DBO | DBO, its the exact same error | 20:46 |
| DBO | cjwatson, Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-deps.c: 622: _dl_map_object_deps: Assertion `nlist > 1' failed! | 20:46 |
| soren | ricotz: Not really, sorry. | 20:47 |
| cjwatson | that's odd, because I would have expected at least the line number to change or something | 20:47 |
| ricotz | soren, who might be? | 20:47 |
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| seb128 | ricotz, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 20:48 |
| * cjwatson hunts down the diff | 20:48 | |
| * soren actually didn't think he'd be able to set the /TOPIC | 20:48 | |
| seb128 | cjwatson, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64652847/eglibc_2.13~pre1-0ubuntu1_2.13-0ubuntu1~ppa1.diff.gz | 20:48 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, that's doko's upload | 20:48 |
| cjwatson | it's OK, I can drive LP, it just takes a while :) | 20:49 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, well I had it in a tab open so I figured I would spare you to search for the ppa etc | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | doko only applied one of the two patches in the upstream report, by the looks of things | 20:50 |
| cjwatson | perhaps he thought it was one or the other; my reading is that it's a two-parter | 20:50 |
| DBO | its two parts | 20:50 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, right, c.f what I copied on the other channel | 20:51 |
| seb128 | sorry for dispatching the info in 2 channels | 20:51 |
| cjwatson | I'll do another test upload in a bit | 20:52 |
| cjwatson | just want to do some reading here | 20:53 |
| kees | the first patch could probably do s/assert (nlist > 1)/assert (nlist > 0)/ with s/while (1)/while (nlist > 1)/ to reduce the indentation insanity | 20:53 |
| cjwatson | yes | 20:54 |
| robbiew | seb128: so we've blocked the download now, right? | 20:59 |
| seb128 | robbiew, yes, downloads and mirroring are blocked | 20:59 |
| robbiew | ok, thnx | 20:59 |
| cjwatson | just putting all the pieces together here, since doko's previous test upload included a bump to 2.13 proper and a new .orig.tar.gz | 21:00 |
| didrocks | DBO: it worths to wait and warn people :) | 21:00 |
| bdmurray | seb128: this won't get caught by apport is that right? | 21:00 |
| cjwatson | fortunately that's in Debian experimental so the orig exists publicly | 21:00 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, not sure but the people who reported it did without apport and it's an assertion and not a crash | 21:01 |
| seb128 | so it's likely apport will not report those | 21:01 |
| ohsix | would be nice if apport did assertion reports, it catches them but then says they're not supported | 21:02 |
| bdmurray | okay, I can't find any apport-crash tagged bugs about it either | 21:02 |
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| bdmurray | I was hoping to stop any from coming in | 21:03 |
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| soren | ricotz: What do you need, exactly? | 21:04 |
| seb128 | ohsix, it does support them if they have an assertion description as well | 21:04 |
| seb128 | but right, it's suboptimal | 21:04 |
| ricotz | soren, i wanted to propose an update of the pretty old upstream version of plymouth, since 0.8.3 is pretty old too, i might be useful to take the current git version, i already packaged and using it | 21:06 |
| cjwatson | if you do that make sure the quilt patches are intelligible | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | and make extra sure that all the patches we still have on top of upstream are still there | 21:08 |
| kees | seb128: apport is _supposed_ to catch asserts. | 21:10 |
| cjwatson | catching asserts in the dynamic loader might be more of a challenge than usual ... | 21:10 |
| soren | ricotz: Yeah, I'm totally not the right person to talk to about that. I just did a couple of drive-by's on Plymouth. | 21:11 |
| kees | yeah, I think the dl asserts aren't actually hooked up to the glibc assert framework. | 21:11 |
| kees | in which case, apport will ignore it | 21:11 |
| ricotz | soren, so slangasek might be the right person? | 21:13 |
| ohsix | seb128: ah | 21:14 |
| ohsix | seb128: the most pernicious ones are assertions, too :] | 21:14 |
| slangasek | ricotz: well, I'd be willing to review any proposed merges. cjwatson has the gist of it though | 21:14 |
| cjwatson | I don't have time for such a plymouth merge at the moment, unfortunately | 21:15 |
| slangasek | ricotz: also I'm not thrilled about updating plymouth the week before feature freeze... if that was going to be done this cycle it would've been better to merge it sooner | 21:15 |
| ricotz | slangasek, yeah i dont wanted to bug cjwatson, he seems pretty busy ;) | 21:15 |
| cjwatson | (one of the problems for me with sponsoring merges is that I always find that reviewing them takes much, much longer than doing it myself) | 21:15 |
| slangasek | ricotz: sorry, I meant: I don't have much to say on the subject besides what cjwatson already said | 21:15 |
| slangasek | and by review merge I mean reviewing a UDD merge request, btw | 21:16 |
| slangasek | anything short of that, and the comments about reviewing merges taking longer than doing merges apply | 21:16 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: what takes up the bulk of that time? | 21:16 |
| cjwatson | sorry don't have time to explain right now | 21:17 |
| lifeless | cjwatson: another time then | 21:17 |
| cjwatson | conversation too wide for this irc channel | 21:17 |
| ricotz | slangasek, ok, i see | 21:17 |
| cjwatson | eglibc 2.13-0ubuntu1~ppa2 uploaded to the same PPA | 21:22 |
| cjwatson | amd64 built inside 20 minutes last time, so hopefully it'll do so again | 21:22 |
| TheMuso | ogra: Started working on it yesterday, and will be finishing and uploading it first thing next week, if not sooner. | 21:24 |
| arand | Complete RE history is ~2G, surprisingly small... | 21:30 |
| ogra | TheMuso, awesome, thanks, TI was asking :) | 21:32 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: hi, put two and two together and read through scrollback here; as it happens I was just about to push the orig.tar.gz for eglibc 2.13~pre1 onto the pristine-tar part of the UDD branch, is that going to slow you down if I do? (Alternatively, is there something else you'd rather I be doing with my time in order to help rather than hinder? :) | 21:34 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I think that should be OK, as long as doing so doesn't change lp:ubuntu/eglibc itself? | 21:45 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: it does because it adds a no-change commit to lp:ubuntu/eglibc to add the reference to the upstream tarball | 21:46 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: so I'll just cool my heels until you're done, so I don't slow you down :) | 21:46 |
| cjwatson | argh, upload rejected | 21:46 |
| cjwatson | a no-change commit won't make a difference | 21:46 |
| * cjwatson grabs the orig from LP instead | 21:46 | |
| cjwatson | slangasek: please note that the orig in Debian and the one in Ubuntu aren't the same - I think because of the manual | 21:47 |
| slangasek | it's no change on the tip, it has a *large* batch of metadata :) | 21:47 |
| slangasek | well, the upstream version number between Debian and Ubuntu isn't the same either | 21:47 |
| cjwatson | I mean it won't slow me down | 21:47 |
| slangasek | ok | 21:47 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: it wasn't in the last upload - it will be in the next | 21:47 |
| slangasek | ah | 21:47 |
| cjwatson | at least I believe so. 2.13 in both, right? | 21:48 |
| slangasek | he labelled it '2.13~pre1', I assumed that was deliberate? | 21:48 |
| cjwatson | in the PPA he bumped to 2.13 | 21:48 |
| slangasek | ok | 21:48 |
| * slangasek again, keeps his hands off | 21:48 | |
| slangasek | the tarball I imported is the one he labelled 2.13~pre1 | 21:49 |
| cjwatson | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test/+files/eglibc_2.13.orig.tar.gz | 21:49 |
| slangasek | if there's a different one for 2.13, I can do merge-upstream again as needed | 21:49 |
| cjwatson | ^- the above is the one I'll be using, anyway | 21:52 |
| cjwatson | uploaded again, hopefully won't be rejected this time | 21:54 |
| cjwatson | good, building | 21:56 |
| * cjwatson goes off for a bit to watch Bones | 21:57 | |
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| slangasek | cjwatson: so do I have this right that you're doing a ppa build first to verify the fix, and the upload goes to the archive only if it checks out? | 22:26 |
| charlieS | slangasek,cjwatson: /me notes that someone needs to tell IS when to re-enable publishing syncing, so things can actually hit the archive. | 22:31 |
| charlieS | if that ETA is within ~3.5 hours, no problem. | 22:31 |
| slangasek | charlieS: I guess it *should* be within that time, but I don't know the full plan here | 22:42 |
| slangasek | I came into this by accident because I was prepping a new eglibc upload to my multiarch ppa | 22:42 |
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| slangasek | cjwatson: I'm definitely at a loss to understand why doko built a new tarball rather than using the one already in Debian; are we sure that's deliberate? | 22:44 |
| slangasek | doko: ^^ ? | 22:44 |
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| slangasek | cjwatson, doko: n/m, I see that there's an added GFDL manual on the Ubuntu side, that explains it | 22:56 |
| slangasek | DBO: are you the designated tester for this fix? :) The amd64 packages of eglibc are built: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test/+buildjob/2271568 | 22:58 |
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| DBO | slangasek, I am not the designated tester, but I will do it in a little bit | 23:00 |
| DBO | :) | 23:00 |
| slangasek | DBO: cheers :) | 23:00 |
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| cjwatson | slangasek: tarball> GFDL divergence - we ship the manual | 23:06 |
| slangasek | yep | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | oh, you saw | 23:06 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: and yes, PPA to verify | 23:06 |
| slangasek | ok | 23:07 |
| cjwatson | also the PPA has the testsuite disabled | 23:07 |
| cjwatson | (for speed, I think) | 23:07 |
| slangasek | ah :) | 23:07 |
| ohsix | is vino supposed to turn off desktops effects when you connect? it's reaaaaally hard to use when compiz is running | 23:13 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: I don't suppose you would have time to test the amd64 libc6 in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test? | 23:18 |
| RoAkSoAx | cjwatson: fwiw i just installed it and evolution doesn't crash anymore (which is what crashed in my case) | 23:21 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: sure I could do that | 23:21 |
| cjwatson | the upstream commit that introduced this was 968dad0ab1f367a087ff4ad503b511dd0c565adc | 23:23 |
| cjwatson | "Fix ordering of DSO constructors and destructors." | 23:23 |
| cjwatson | FWIW I suspect LD_PRELOADing something random and pointless is a workaround | 23:26 |
| cjwatson | oh, here, I bet that's it | 23:27 |
| cjwatson | hypothesis: any dlopen will fail | 23:27 |
| cjwatson | maybe only a dlopen of a sufficiently simple object | 23:28 |
| cjwatson | e.g. one with no DT_NEEDED entries of its own | 23:28 |
| cjwatson | anyway, this is basically just guesswork from code inspection | 23:28 |
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| aroman | hello, does anyone know how to change the "You may wish.." text as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/6yOIE.png In ubiquity? I've been ripping through its source tree looking for it, but i can't find it. Thanks :) | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | just grep for it | 23:41 |
| cjwatson | try not grepping for the whole string though, since there's markup around "release notes" | 23:42 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: anything? | 23:43 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: do know of any applications I should test? evolution is behaving badly in a different way | 23:43 |
| cjwatson | I'm planning to upload shortly on the strength of RoAkSoAx's test | 23:43 |
| cjwatson | how does it misbehave? | 23:43 |
| cjwatson | I have no idea, I'm just shuffling patches :P | 23:44 |
| aroman | cjwatson: think this'll do the trick: find . | xargs grep -i "You may wish to read" (In the root directory) | 23:44 |
| bdmurray | (evolution:1154): evolution-plugin-lib-WARNING **: can't load plugin '/usr/lib/evolution/2.32/plugins/liborg-gnome-exchange-operations': libexchange-storage.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 23:45 |
| cjwatson | hmm | 23:45 |
| cjwatson | aroman: just use grep -r | 23:45 |
| cjwatson | no need to mess about with find and xargs | 23:45 |
| bdmurray | that happens on old with the old version of eglibc though | 23:46 |
| aroman | lol i didn't even realize it had that param | 23:46 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: could you run 'strace -etrace=file -f -o evolution.trace evolution' and post evolution.trace? | 23:46 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: actually, never mind, that seems like a package bug to me; the linkage is there but the library is nowhere to be found | 23:49 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: okay | 23:51 |
| cjwatson | I'm going ahead and uploading | 23:51 |
| cjwatson | (to natty) | 23:51 |
| === aroman is now known as lallenlowe | ||
| kees | cjwatson: yeah, it doesn't seem to eat my VM, and ogg123 runs. | 23:56 |
| === lallenlowe is now known as aroman | ||
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