[00:01] <dmcglone> can anyone recommend a good wireless router with good range
[00:01] <deejoe> yes, I recommend finding a good wireless router with good range
[00:01] <deejoe> ;)
[00:09] <Unit193> dmcglone: I've never used WRT300N (but 1 and 1.1 work with tomato and DD-WRT)
[00:16] <dmcglone> Unit193: linksys?
[00:18] <Unit193> dmcglone: Linksys/Cisco
[00:19] <dmcglone> gotcha. I've used belkin for so long, I've forgotten everything else pretty much
[00:25] <dmcglone> Oh yeah, the new KDE 4.6 has a netbook interface
[00:25] <dmcglone> You can choose between traditional and the netbook
[00:29] <Unit193> dmcglone: If we put a *buntu on the main, it will be Kubuntu!
[00:31] <Unit193> Ubuntu going the way of Unity, I would have Xubuntu for other...
[00:32] <dmcglone> so far I'm liking KDE 4.6. right now I'm learning how to share widgets on the network
[00:38] <dmcglone> exactly why I think I need a new quality router
[00:40] <Cheri703> dmcglone: belkins are reasonable
[00:45] <dmcglone> reasonable? I want superb ;-)
[01:05] <stalcup> jacob ping a ling
[01:10] <vorian> paultag: ping
[01:16] <paultag> vorian: hey, what's up
[01:17] <vorian> paultag: I need to update my blog url on the planet, but I'm stuck on a windows machine :(
[01:17] <vorian> can you help me out?
[01:19] <paultag> vorian: yeah, send me the URL
[01:19] <vorian> paultag: http://machinecrusade.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[01:20] <paultag> vorian: same head?
[01:20] <vorian> yep. just the url
[01:20] <vorian> I'm not remembering when or why I changed it
[01:22] <paultag> just a sec, it's updating
[01:22] <paultag> the copy I have is way stale
[01:22] <vorian> ouch!
[01:22] <paultag> 5/13
[01:23] <paultag> my net sucks, it'll be a sec
[01:23] <vorian> no hurry, I have yet to finish my post
[01:23] <paultag> vorian: I can't change it, it's already set
[01:23] <vorian> wha?
[01:23] <paultag> vorian: jacob set it on 2011-02-17 03:54:56 -- Revision ID: jpeddicord@ubuntu.com-20110217035456-zsdmi4u3wyufkddg
[01:23] <paultag> vorian: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/revision/1294
[01:24] <jacob> yeah, did that not update on planet?
[01:24] <paultag> vorian: yeah, entry looks good
[01:24] <vorian> okay, i'll have to trust that
[01:24] <paultag> jacob: it looks good jacob
[01:24] <jacob> kk
[01:24] <vorian> for some reason it was showing ubuntu-vorian
[01:25] <vorian> I'll do a test post (mwahahahhahaha)
[01:25] <vorian> and it wont be directed at Matthew
[01:25] <vorian> ok, i lied
[01:25] <paultag> vorian: yeah, it looks good and that's your only entry
[01:25] <jacob> paultag: no need to claim your net sucks, it took a good 10 minutes to download on this fairly decent connection
[01:26] <jacob> lolbazaar
[01:26] <paultag> jacob: phew, it's not just me :)
[01:28] <jacob> burrito time, /afk
[01:31] <vorian> ahhhh
[01:31] <vorian> here is the problem
[01:33] <vorian> paultag: http://vorian-ubuntu.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[01:34] <vorian> ^^ that is the correct url
[01:34] <paultag> vorian: so you want to switch that?
[01:34] <vorian> paultag: yes please :)
[01:35] <paultag> mkay
[01:35] <paultag> vorian: pushed
[01:35] <vorian> thanks paul!
[01:35] <Unit193> I take it no finch users here?
[01:35] <paultag> no problem, man
[01:36] <paultag> Unit193: nawskies :)
[01:36] <paultag> vorian: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/revision/1296 <-- all set :)
[01:36] <vorian> wicked awesome
[01:37] <vorian> now I just need to get my linux machine back online
[01:37] <paultag> I love the word wicked so much
[01:37] <paultag> vorian: what did you do to it?
[01:37] <vorian> it's booting too many systems
[01:37] <vorian> some of the systems are bleading over, quite odd
[01:38] <paultag> odd is right
[01:40] <paultag> OK, sushi time
[01:40] <paultag> godspeed
[01:40] <paultag> vorian: if you need me to update that again, just shoot me an email
[01:40] <vorian> paultag: will do! thanks for the offer :)
[01:52]  * Unit193 is really getting ticked of at finch!
[03:29] <Cheri703> if you had 2 cords, and they were white and colored, would you assume white to be ground or colored to be ground?
[03:32] <Unit193> Lick one and find out?
[03:34] <Cheri703> I think I found my issue. I had them in the right spots for the most part
[03:41] <dmcglone1> I'm back for a bit
[03:41] <Cheri703> IT'S ALIIIIVE! my first computer built from scratch is up and running :) :)
[03:41] <Unit193> Your first computer and it's not even for you.... right?
[03:42] <Cheri703> yep
[03:42] <Cheri703> but I got paid decent money for it, so I'm ok with it :)
[03:42] <Unit193> What OS?
[03:42] <Cheri703> I'm going to run it through its paces over the weekend, make sure EVERYTHING is working properly
[03:42] <Cheri703> 10.10
[03:47] <Cheri703> this thing is about to die, I'll bbl
[03:47] <Unit193> Bye Cheri703
[03:49] <Cheri703> bye
[03:53] <Cheri703> ok, back :) had to go to living room sooner than anticipated, so I got my cord then
[03:53] <Unit193> I thought you'd be gone longer
[03:54] <Cheri703> so did I
[03:55] <Unit193> Do you know if you can take the home dirs out of one *buntu and stick it into another? (and how to get most of the apps/config over)
[03:55] <Unit193> Not looking "how" now, just "if"
[03:55] <Cheri703> uhm, I know you can take from one installation of ubuntu to another, not sure about cross DE
[03:56] <Unit193> LXDE > XFCE
[03:56] <Cheri703> the .application folders are what you'll want (.mozilla, .ssh .xchat) worth a shot
[03:56] <Unit193> Now if I can just remember all I've installed...
[03:57] <Cheri703> ctrl h shows hidden files
[03:57] <Cheri703> you can see them then
[03:57] <Cheri703> they're in the home folder
[03:57] <Unit193> ls -a does too :)
[03:58] <Cheri703> kk
[03:59] <Unit193> canthus13 needs to do some sort of class where I get steal all his terminal wisdom
[04:00] <canthus13> Unit193: Heh. my terminal wisdom consists mainly of google. :)
[04:01] <Unit193> You seem to know all the best apps! along with all the other commands I seem to need/fotgot
[04:04] <canthus13> Unit193: Heh.  gthis guy knows all the best apps:  https://kmandla.wordpress.com/
[04:08] <Unit193> http://kmandla.wikispaces.com/ <--- seems real cool! arch fan...
[04:09] <canthus13> Unit193: Oh cool. I haven't seen that one yet. :)
[04:09] <Unit193> canthus13: If you find any real cool console apps, let me know!
[04:09] <canthus13> I will. :)
[04:40] <Cheri703> booted into 10.10 so I can make sure I'm setting up the new comp the way I want it
[04:40] <Cheri703> still getting it set up on mine as well
[04:41] <Unit193> How do you like it? how does it contrast to 10.04?
[04:41] <Cheri703> it's very similar
[04:41] <Cheri703> I had used it for a bit before, but went back to 10.04 because that's what I have to run on my desktop
[04:41] <Cheri703> also I'd upgraded and had issues, this is a clean install
[04:42] <vorian> jacob: sorry
[04:42] <Cheri703> I was somewhat turned off to it because I tried unity first -_- HATED the initial release of unity, but....hopefully it's better now
[04:42] <vorian> i was trying to find the easiest way to post
[04:43] <Unit193> Cheri703: I knew you liked .04 better... what are you going to do when 11.04 is out with only unity?
[04:43] <Cheri703> we'll see
[04:43] <Cheri703> I'll try it out, might just stay in the 10's
[04:43] <Cheri703> depends on if it works with my desktop video card...works PERFECTLY in 10.04, not at all in 10.10
[04:43] <Cheri703> so...we'll see
[04:44] <Unit193> that or just use Gubuntu ;) or even Xubuntu...
[04:44] <Cheri703> yeah, we'll see
[04:47] <canthus13> 10.10 has wireless issues with both wireless adapters I tried in this machine. :(
[04:48] <Cheri703> that sucks
[04:48] <Cheri703> mine works ok in 10.10...
[04:50]  * canthus13 has tried with a BCM 4312 and an Atheros AR9285.
[04:51] <canthus13> the BCM works perfectly in 9.10.
[04:51] <Cheri703> :/ that's annoying
[04:51] <Cheri703> I hate it when the "new and improved" has less usable things than the old ones
[04:54] <canthus13> Yup. makes me more likely to switch to another distro. :(
[04:56] <canthus13> Cheri703: 'Simplicity' is a feautre.
[04:59] <Cheri703> yeah
[04:59] <Cheri703> they focus on "let's make it shiny" vs "let's make it work" lately...that's frustrating
[05:08] <Unit193> canthus13: Do you think grml might be able to handle rdc/p on 128Ram? (and maybe video)
[05:08] <canthus13> Unit193: 128MB? Prolly not.
[05:08] <canthus13> but it shouldn't hurt to try. :)
[05:10] <Unit193> That's about what I was thinking!
[05:21] <Cheri703> 1080p monitor = AWESOME...
[05:21] <Cheri703> and it's super light weigh
[05:21] <Cheri703> t
[05:21] <Cheri703> weighs around the same as my netbook, perhaps a bit heavier
[05:21] <Cheri703> I wish I could keep this computer :(
[05:21] <Cheri703> but oh well
[05:34] <BiosElement> Wow
[05:35] <BiosElement> Just about had it with the Google TV FUD.
[05:35] <BiosElement> Google should totally hire an angry mob of lawyers and start suing viacom and company into the ground.
[05:35] <BiosElement> >.<
[05:36] <BiosElement> So tired of hearing the claim that google TV = Piracy.
[05:36] <BiosElement> It's such utter nonsense I'm 'sure' they could get a victory on one level or another >.<
[06:03] <Unit193> BiosElement: So how IS your project coming? (apart from the crazy people!)
[06:04] <BiosElement> It's coming great honestly.
[06:04] <BiosElement> We've got some really amazing people onboard.
[06:04] <BiosElement> One of our map designers is a guy who's been doing it professionally for 11 years.
[06:04] <Unit193> Well, that's great!
[06:04] <BiosElement> I've got a python web dev who worked with Creative Commons as a lead dev on their work. ^_^
[06:04] <BiosElement> So yeah, we're doing awesome with people heh.
[06:06] <Unit193> Man, how did you get these people?
[06:06] <BiosElement> Hah, good question. :P
[06:06] <BiosElement> Simply put, we really lucked out.
[06:07] <BiosElement> I suppose we either have a really compelling concept, or are somehow amazingly awesome and don't realize it ;)
[06:07] <Unit193> What's the site again?
[06:07] <BiosElement> cubecreate.com
[06:09] <Unit193> I love FAQ #3...
[06:09] <BiosElement> LOL
[06:09] <BiosElement> Wow, yeah. As you can tell, still a bit patchy sitewise
[06:12] <Unit193> Is the platform geared towards a certain type of game?
[06:12] <BiosElement> Oh yeah, and we have 2 professional writers. >.> *writes his best and sends it on to them to save him...*
[06:13] <BiosElement> No, the engine itself is very generic and we are deeply commited to keeping it tthat way. You could even do a 2D mario style game, though the engine is of course 3D.
[06:15] <Unit193> A person would have to know Lua in order to make a game?
[06:15] <Unit193> (Sorry for some real basic questions!)
[06:15] <BiosElement> No. We intend to make a plug/play style library of scripts to let developers who don't know lua design games. Although of course eventually there 'will' be a limit to that.
[06:15] <BiosElement> Nah, it's fine.
[06:16] <BiosElement> Actually just updated the FAQ >.>
[06:16] <BiosElement> So yeah, thanks ^_^
[06:17] <Unit193> Ubuntu CoC? ;)
[06:17] <Unit193> No problem!
[06:17] <BiosElement> Yes, yes it is heh.
[06:21] <Unit193> Was this going to be cross platform? (I thought I read thet at some point. Maybe I'm delusional?)
[06:21] <BiosElement> Of course.
[06:22] <BiosElement> Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD and possibly a few more.
[06:24] <Unit193> I guess I missed that this time around! if/when you need people to test Linux/Windows binaries, I'll give it a shot!
[06:26] <BiosElement> Ahah, Will do. ^_^ I'll be sure to let folks know.
[06:26] <Unit193> Maybe I should stop asking questions, them FAQs are getting longer!
[06:27] <BiosElement> Ahah, long FAQ's are good ;P
[06:27] <Unit193> That they are, but being the person that makes them long isn't ;)
[06:29] <BiosElement> Ahah, maybe not. ;P
[06:35] <Unit193> Glad I could get lots more info on cC
[06:42] <BiosElement> Yep ^_^
[06:42] <BiosElement> Great to hear you care heh
[06:54] <BiosElement> Ugh
[06:54] <Unit193> What be the issue?
[06:54] <BiosElement> I really hate being
[06:54] <BiosElement> 'the man' when people want to stick it to him >.<
[06:54] <Cheri703> that's fairly existential
[06:54] <Cheri703> ah
[06:54] <BiosElement> Ahah
[06:55] <Unit193> That made me think of SG1... being "the man" is never a good thing...
[06:55] <BiosElement> Eh, as funder and project co-founder, I'm the biggest authority there is.
[06:55] <BiosElement> So even community-wide votes are an 'excuse'.
[06:55]  * BiosElement coughs
[06:56] <BiosElement> Ahh well, can't win every battle.
[06:56] <BiosElement> I really should write a book on community management. >.< I'm sure it'd be a best seller :P
[06:58] <BiosElement> See Unit193, no matter how many awesome people a project has, it still has it's road bumps :P
[06:59] <Unit193> That's why I'm never going to be one of the leaders! not so good with people! (and you were talking all about the crazy/annoying ones)
[07:00] <BiosElement> Hah, you have to be willing to take some bumps if you lead a project.
[07:00] <BiosElement> It's worth it, but sometimes it doesn't feel like it.
[07:01] <Unit193> I'm not sure how I would be able to help with your project...
[07:01] <BiosElement> Hah, well get yourself a club and go to this address and...ok maybe not such a good idea. *facepalms*
[07:02] <BiosElement> Feel free to just checkout the forums and comment. ^_^
[07:02] <BiosElement> We always need more lurkers poking around and giving ideas.
[07:02] <Unit193> Not the ideas I have...
[07:02] <Unit193> But I'll check them out!
[07:03] <BiosElement> Heh, If I sound annoyed it's just because this gets old
[07:04] <BiosElement> This is the third poll and 10-somethinith decision made that then somehow is all my evil doing
[07:04] <BiosElement> But wasn't a problem at the time. *sighs*
[07:05] <Unit193> I missed what "this" is?
[07:06] <BiosElement> Ahh, *rants about decision* "Ok fine, I'll hold a poll" *Good.* *month later* *That poll was crap!!!*
[07:07] <BiosElement> It looks bad but eh, I'm just going to ignore any further bitching about it. Decisions made, move on. I will never understand how folks like Jono and Mark put up with this heh.
[07:07] <Unit193> I soooo don't want to be you right now....
[07:08] <BiosElement> Yeah well, join the club. ^_^
[07:08] <BiosElement> My drug of choice is Crystal Method BTW, if you ever do lead a project. Just turn it up and blow a few speakers.
[07:13] <BiosElement> Wow.
[07:14] <BiosElement> So a poll is done with over a dozen random gamemode concepts
[07:14] <BiosElement> Now all of sudden it's 'my' project
[07:14] <BiosElement> I'm really glad I don't have to deal with this in person
[07:19] <BiosElement> Awesome, I wrote two paragraphs for every paragraph written. Wow I write too much.
[07:19] <Unit193> flame wars?
[07:20] <BiosElement> Heh, PM.
[14:57] <thafreak> Hello ohio
[14:57] <thafreak> soooo, new egg has presidents sale...the WD gree 1TB drives are $10 off
[14:58] <thafreak> too bad max you're allowed to buy is 5...
[15:33] <paultag> 07:08 < BiosElement> My drug of choice is Crystal Meth
[15:35] <paultag> I think that needs to be the /topic
[15:47] <dmcglone> Hey Hey!
[15:49] <Cheri703> yo
[16:18]  * BiosElement kicks paultag >.>
[16:34] <thafreak> so...if you were building a dream freenas/linux storage server for your basement/closet...and were going green...what cpu would you use?
[16:34] <thafreak> software raid/zfs
[16:35] <thafreak> I had an atom 330 dual core, and I was unimpressed by software raid 5 on it...
[16:35] <thafreak> anyone know anything about the core i3?
[16:51] <thafreak> wait, crap
[16:51] <thafreak> I didn't realize this whole different alignment issue
[16:51] <thafreak> maybe that's why the atom machine i tested sucked
[16:51] <thafreak> crap
[20:48] <dmcglone> Hiya all
[20:50] <dmcglone> KDE 4.6 is looking great
[21:26] <Unit193> Hello dmcglone! Should I try it? ;)
[21:33] <dmcglone> Oh yes!
[21:34] <dmcglone> I think I'll be sticking here from now on
[21:38] <dmcglone> Unit193: you will not regret it :-)
[21:46] <thafreak> ok, I know some of you have mentioned using arch
[21:47] <thafreak> how the hell do I search the available packages?? what's the equivalent of apt-cache search, or aptitude search
[21:48] <thafreak> nm...I found it on the wiki
[21:53] <Unit193> dmcglone: I have always been a fan of Kubuntu!
[21:54] <Unit193> Back with 7.*
[22:12] <dmcglone> 7*???
[22:12] <Unit193> Feisty Fawn... I still have a CD of it...
[22:13] <dmcglone> Oh
[22:13] <dmcglone> I thought KDE was up to 7x and I missed it
[22:13] <dmcglone> haha
[22:13] <Unit193> Yeah... Kubuntu 7.04
[22:14] <dmcglone> I'm not running Kubuntu, I'm running Ubuntu with KDE
[22:14] <Unit193> I had Ubuntu 6.10 on one computer till Lubuntu 10.10 (well, 10.04 but a week later 10.10 came out)
[22:14] <Unit193> Why not Kubuntu?
[22:15] <dmcglone> why? it works either way
[22:15] <dmcglone> I have both Gnome and KDE on this computer
[22:16] <dmcglone> do you have both?
[22:20] <dmcglone> I wonder if there's a way to trick netflix to let me watch instant on linux
[22:27] <Unit193> I have Lubuntu(=LXDE) on one and going/had Kubuntu on another
[22:28] <Unit193> The lubuntu computer is moving to another unit, so I may swap L for X...
[22:56] <canthus13> heh. just talked to someone whose house number was 1337.
[23:14] <dmcglone> I think my router is shot
[23:14] <Cheri703> that's no good dmcglone
[23:14] <dmcglone> I know. It's dropping connections more often than before
[23:15] <Unit193> Who do you think shot it?
[23:16] <dmcglone> LOL Unit193
[23:16] <dmcglone> it seems moonlight is a bust!
[23:17] <Unit193> Why? (the distro, right?)
[23:18] <Unit193> ohhh... like silverlight...
[23:18] <dmcglone> no it's the linux equivalent of silverlight. BUT I just found a really cool site that shows how it works
[23:19] <dmcglone>    Hmmm pretty cool
[23:19] <dmcglone> http://imagebot.org/silverlight/postcards/
[23:19] <dmcglone> check it out using moonlight
[23:51] <Cheri703> cool video: controlling ardrone quadcopter with kinect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSM_9SeNZk&feature=youtu.be  friend of mine set that up at Dev8d
[23:57] <dmcglone> Im installing XP in a virtual box
[23:57] <Cheri703> dual boot
[23:57] <dmcglone> no, using virtual box
[23:58] <Cheri703> I meant you should dual boot
[23:58] <dmcglone> I already got dual boot with XP too... LOL
[23:58] <Cheri703> ....
[23:58] <dmcglone> I'm lazy
[23:58] <Cheri703> -_-
[23:59] <dmcglone> Im probably only going to use it to watch netflix movies