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pace_t_zulu_Driving home01:21
wrstchibihogoshino:  what distro is that built on?01:22
chibihogoshinoim not shur01:22
wrsti'm downloading :)01:23
chibihogoshinoi only have 400 meg on my hd right now01:24
wrstchibihogoshino: wow01:29
chibihogoshinoyeah it sucks.. i need another one01:30
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pace_t_zulucyberanger ping01:32
pace_t_zuluhmmm01:33
chibihogoshinothat was fun01:33
pace_t_zuluhope the rest didn't forget about the leadership meeting01:34
chibihogoshinowhen is it ?01:34
pace_t_zuluummm01:35
pace_t_zuluright now01:35
chibihogoshinooh01:35
pace_t_zulucyberanger's idle time is 10 hours01:35
pace_t_zuluthat can't be good01:35
chibihogoshinothe topic is a bit mis leading01:35
pace_t_zulunetritious linuxman410 and jfenn2199 aren't even logged in01:36
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: all the leaders agreed upon the time for this meeting01:36
chibihogoshinothursday the 17th at 8:30 ?01:36
pace_t_zuluyea... i am updating the wiki while i wait01:37
pace_t_zului'll double check that time01:37
chibihogoshinoi wish there was a gcal i could subscribe to01:37
chibihogoshinolike to have on my tasks list .. with my other stuff, on my desktop. so i see it.01:39
pace_t_zuluseems like a decent idea01:40
pace_t_zului put the meeting right into my calendar... would have forgotten if i had not done so01:40
chibihogoshinoi didnt know about it .. or i forgot .01:41
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-us-tn.20110203_1908.html01:41
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: it's just for points of contact and the trustee01:41
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: cyberanger wanted to hold it01:42
wrstpace_t_zulu: you may need to get cell numbers ;)01:43
chibihogoshino3rd Thursday means nothing to my head.. im really bad with dates .. if i dont have them in front of me i wont remember01:44
pace_t_zuluwrst: we seem to have trouble with our meeting attendance01:44
chibihogoshinowe need a gcal that everyone can subscribe to01:45
wrstpace_t_zulu: i'm like chibihogoshino 1st thurs, 3rd tues, 2nd wed etc all confuses me :)01:45
pace_t_zuluwrst: me too01:45
pace_t_zuluwrst: but that's what calendars are for01:45
pace_t_zuluwrst: google calendar makes that stuff easy01:45
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: makes a good suggestion about having a team calendar01:45
chibihogoshinoif we use our own then its not uniform and inconsistent01:46
wrstagreed pace_t_zulu i use google calendar all the time :)01:46
wrstthat's an excellent suggestion01:46
pace_t_zulucredit to chibihogoshino01:46
wrstfor that suggestion we may have to help chibihogoshino clear up some space on his HDD so he has more than 400MB :)01:47
chibihogoshinolol01:47
chibihogoshinoits down to 26 meg now01:47
pace_t_zuluthis is a bit frustrating01:50
chibihogoshinocyberanger: is almost never late or gone01:50
pace_t_zuluit seems reasonable to say this meeting isn't going to happen01:55
chibihogoshinoit still could tho . who is all here ?01:57
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: as far as the "leadership" goes... just me02:00
chibihogoshinoah02:00
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: technically cyberanger is logged in... but he's been idle for nearly 11 hours02:00
chibihogoshinoyeah02:01
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: cyberanger called the meeting02:01
pace_t_zuluso i'm not even sure what the agenda would be02:01
chibihogoshinoi wonder whats up02:01
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: well it's supposed to be a monthly meeting02:01
chibihogoshinoyeah02:02
pace_t_zuluchibihogoshino: so it's not like something is up in particular02:02
chibihogoshinowith cyberanger02:02
pace_t_zuluwell i need to go02:03
pace_t_zululater guys02:03
chibihogoshinopeace02:04
pace_t_zuludisappointing :(02:04
wrstchibihogoshino: i'm burning that disk02:48
chibihogoshinocool02:49
wrstwell i'm off to give it a whirl i doubt my wireless will work on the old laptop for some reason02:50
chibihogoshinogood luck02:50
chibihogoshinocd ?02:53
chibihogoshinono usb stick ?02:53
wrstwell that was disappointing chibihogoshino03:03
wrstyeah chibihogoshino i didn't take the time to do the usb thing, and its built on opensuse03:04
wrstwhich may be why it was disappointing03:04
chibihogoshinowhat was wrong with it03:04
vychunelinuxman ping?03:06
wrstnothing really wrong i don't guess chibihogoshino but not exactly something to knock my socks off thats for sure03:07
chibihogoshinoahh03:07
vychuneo/03:10
chibihogoshino\o/03:15
chibihogoshino |03:16
chibihogoshino /\03:16
vychunei just got a check i the mail for 285003:16
chibihogoshinoaww.. my stick man fell apart03:16
vychunelol03:16
chibihogoshinocool vychune03:16
chibihogoshinowhat are you going to do ?03:17
vychuneidk it maybe fake03:17
chibihogoshinooh03:17
chibihogoshinothought it might be your taxes03:17
vychunei typed in the routing # gnomes website came up in the results03:18
vychunei didnt file im a dependent03:18
chibihogoshinooh03:18
chibihogoshinognomes web site ?03:19
vychuneyep03:19
chibihogoshinothe routing number for the check ?03:20
vychuneyep03:20
chibihogoshinodid you mean google ?03:20
vychuneyes03:20
chibihogoshinooh03:20
chibihogoshinoit would be odd if you searched gnomes web site for the number and got something03:21
vychunelol03:21
vychunebank info too03:21
vychuneits thier rout #03:21
chibihogoshinowhat bank ?03:21
vychunecitizen bank03:23
chibihogoshinohmm03:24
vychuneof connecticut03:24
vychunebrb03:24
chibihogoshinocall them and check it out03:24
chibihogoshinook03:24
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vychune_brbi will03:24
chibihogoshinoin xfce4.8 when you type something in the search box you get when you hit alt f2 it open a browser and searches google if it cant find the program03:34
vychune_brbnot that know of03:41
vychune_brbgn03:42
chibihogoshinogn ?03:43
chibihogoshinoknow of what ?03:43
techMilesguiiiize.04:47
techMileswhat is it I'm thinking of?04:47
techMilesmake distclean...04:47
techMilesbut it says 'don't know how to make distclean'.04:47
techMilesnvm got it04:49
chibihogoshinoum05:08
techMilessorry. lol. been awhile since i've had to do CLI work.05:08
cyberangerwrst: cell numbers wouldn't have helped, early this morning I metioned network issues, they progressed over the day, seems fine now06:20
cyberangerbut they got worse first06:20
wrstglad you are back amongst the living cyberanger :)11:45
cyberangerlife and death are matters of perspective11:47
cyberangerone might say I'm back amongst the dead, for spending so much time on IRC11:48
cyberangerbut I'm chatting with people from places I can't physically go and see, so who's really living11:49
cyberanger;-)11:49
cyberangerhow's your morning wrst ?11:49
wrstgood cyberanger just about to head out i will be back amongst the dead in a few! see you then11:50
cyberangerdead or living ;-)11:51
cyberangersee you then11:52
wrstwoot i'm back to the abode of whatever we are cyberanger12:43
cyberangerwrst: lol13:52
cyberangerI've been toying with avahi13:52
cyberangerfound some interesting articles that make me want to hack into something a little different13:54
cyberangerwrst: I think life is what you make of it, you can't choose death13:55
cyberangerbut calling a 9-5 life, might be a streach13:55
wrstwell if you can avoid the 9-5 life you should :)13:55
* cyberanger loves his work very much, somedays I hate it with an equally strong passion13:56
cyberangerand it's a strong passion, since I've done some related stuff on my off time, help here in IRC, working on swissknife-router, and the 3 state mountain bike race, setup a mesh network13:58
cyberangerunfortunately, freelance and commission is just so small a margin13:58
cyberangerthere's more time off to hate and love it ;-)13:59
cyberangerwrst: of course, there's one skill that makes sense outside a 9-5, an accounting skill13:59
cyberangereverybody hates being broke, it's worse to be in the red though14:00
cyberangerchris4585: when you get a chance, you might like http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan14:02
cyberangerDan9186: are you around?14:05
* Dan9186 sneeks in14:06
* cyberanger grabs Dan9186 so he can't as easily sneak out14:06
Dan9186what's up?14:06
cyberangerdo you remember your irssi ssh user14:06
cyberangerthat wouldn't use screen?14:07
Dan9186i remember him, i'm suprised you do though :P14:07
cyberangerwell, I said I'd help on that issue, and it's on my list of things to blog on14:07
cyberangerand that's one thing of a few I'm gonna fix this week14:07
Dan9186i added a .bash_startup to his profile that executes a screen create/reconnect every time he loads up14:08
Dan9186the only thing i didn't do was the ssh timeout14:08
cyberangeroh, you beat me to it14:08
cyberangeroh, ok, is that still desired14:08
cyberanger?14:08
Dan9186which i'm still game for if you wana show/writeup14:08
cyberangerok, that's actually not that hard, it was the bashrc bit that's more of a pain (inverse effects if done wrong)14:09
cyberangerbtw, what switches are you using for screen, I use UdRR14:10
cyberangerU = UTF8 (something good for irc) d = detach (in case of glitch where it thinks it's still attached) and RR is give me a screen, no matter what (normally reattach)14:10
cyberangerDan9186: did you add any switches to screen?14:11
cyberangerreason I ask is just to help prevent any glitches I came across myself14:12
cyberangerDan9186: anyhow, in his account we need to edit a file, ~/.screenrc14:13
Xpistoswhat up14:15
cyberangerand add two lines14:15
vychuneo/14:15
Xpistosas it turns out it wasn't the server it was the damn modem14:15
cyberangeridle 900; detach14:15
cyberangerscreen -t irssi irssi14:15
vychunemy boss thought i was gonna go to the lamar loco at 9.45 in my house clothes14:16
cyberangerDan9186: that is the minimum, and applies to a new screen session, there's a way to apply that to current screens too14:16
Xpistoswhat is lamar loco14:16
vychunelamar location14:17
Xpistoscyberanger: what is the -t argument?14:17
cyberangerXpistos: my issue increased yesterday, actual outage for all intents14:17
cyberangernot sure where in the pipeline it was, turned into a reset14:18
cyberangerXpistos: title14:18
Dan9186cyberanger: sorry had o take care of something i'm just using dR <name>14:18
cyberangerand you can shove those lines into a screenrc, as I've done for rtorrent14:18
cyberangerDan9186: that's ok, what's name in this case?14:18
Dan9186irssi i believe14:19
cyberangerDan9186: ok, if you follow my bit above, I'd suggest changing that to just UdRR14:20
Dan9186what is the second R for? and any particular reason for telling it UTF8?14:20
cyberangersince I added a bit that'll start irssi only on new sessions (I'd fear if you did it that way, you might somehow wind up with mutiple irssi clients running)14:20
cyberangerDan9186: kinda a failsafe, as the author puts it "give me a screen, I don't care how"14:21
vychuneXpistos: 9:45 pm btw after i got off work14:21
cyberangernothing to reattach, the 2nd R says, ok, I want a new one14:21
Xpistoswhat is that a bar or something?14:22
vychuneFaster Taxes14:22
Xpistosoh14:22
Dan9186? thats why i do the dR, it reattaches or creates a new one14:22
vychunewhere im tech support14:22
vychunethey told me the same day im getting laid off14:22
cyberangerit might not create a new one, I'd have to read up on the manpage again14:23
cyberangerthere was an added benifit for two R's14:23
cyberangerand it related to getting a screen14:23
cyberangeras for U, irssi demands utf8, or it gets weird14:23
cyberangerbrb14:23
XpistosAtta boy Watson!14:26
vychune???14:26
Xpistoshttp://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/everything/~3/iih5jluxiCk/bug-lets-humans-grab-daily-double-as-watson-triumphs-on-jeopardy.ars14:27
Dan9186RR tells it to use the first session if more than one is returned as available where as the R just creates one or reattaches if there is one14:27
vychuneWatson on Jep?14:27
vychuneyeah i saw that it was cool14:27
XpistosI missed it but I wanted the computer to crush the puny humans14:27
vychunelol14:35
cyberangerXpistos: your sure14:41
cyberangermanpages says -D -RR  Attach here and now. Whatever that means, just do it.14:41
cyberangerand if it was that literral, I'd allways have my rtorrent session appear, not my mutlipurpose screen (with irc in it)14:42
cyberangerhrm, makes more sense that way though14:42
Xpistossure about what14:42
cyberangerXpistos: sorry, Dan9186's nick colour is poor, mad it overlap with your watson url14:43
cyberangerDan9186: dan ^^^^14:43
* cyberanger looks for a way to tweak nick colours14:44
cyberangerfixed that, whoops14:44
cyberangerhaving that colour so close to the background just sucked14:45
Dan9186lol14:46
cyberangerit's like trying to see a dalmation is a blizzard15:01
vychunein you mean15:01
cyberangeryou can see the spots, but if you star hard enough, you'll see many spots, due to a migration15:02
cyberangeryes s/in/is/15:02
netritiousmorning15:06
cyberangerhey netritious15:06
cyberangerhow's the day15:06
vychuneo/15:06
netritioushey cyberanger, vychune :)15:07
netritiousapologies for not making the meeting last night, will be here next time15:08
cyberangernetritious: that's unexceptable15:10
cyberangeris what I'd say if I hadn't missed it too ;-)15:10
cyberangernetworking issues here all of yesterday15:10
cyberangerslow or none15:11
cyberangerthe throughput at the end was too low for ssh or irc, but I could see dns intermittently working15:11
cyberangerall fixed now, but it was odd15:11
netritiousha15:12
netritious:)15:12
cyberangernetritious: pace_t_zulu was the only one, so I think he deserves an award, the golden ubuntu live disc?15:12
* cyberanger grabs his paint, isn't rich enough for real gold15:13
cyberangerjfenn2199 and linuxman410 wasn't there (in all fairness, jfenn2199 missed the meeting that we schudled last nights meeting, and linuxman410 might not have been there either)15:14
cyberangernetritious: gonna shoot this in an email too, but this was the main thing, and west tn is ahead of the game in this, is adjust the application with anything new, by saturday's end15:15
cyberangerand figure out how to encourage events that will be held regularly15:16
cyberangerand between the lug and hackerspace, I think I can say memphis has been active on that15:16
cyberangerexcept documentation of all of it (which is above the rest of us, luckily)15:17
netritiousit's documented15:17
netritiousmaybe not who all info in one place but I used the mailing list and the web site to announce anything I organize15:18
netritiousand in here too15:18
cyberangerwell, it needs to be from now on (I can't complain about prior events anyhow, I never had the forsight for any event I've been to except this years confrence I ran computer gaming, and honestly, there wasn't much to shoot photos of15:18
netritiousat the meeting I reported head count so that's in the channel logs somewhere15:18
cyberangerit's more of writing a howto15:19
cyberangerto say what I did do15:19
netritioushttp://ubuntu-tennessee.org15:19
cyberangernetritious: can you put together an installfest, if your lug is intrested?15:19
netritiousthere is *supposed* to be an installfest this month15:20
netritiousand I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is on the menu15:20
cyberangerI've got a kit of scripts and such for that, if you'd like15:20
netritioussure15:20
netritiousI take all free tools freely :P15:21
cyberangerand you've already got a critical peice of the requirements (your debconf mirror)15:21
cyberangerok, when this month (there's not alot left of febuary)15:21
netritiouseh it's only a partial mirror...debs only, and netinst refuses to accept my local mirror for installation sources...update sources ok, install sources not ok15:22
netritiousbut I can prob just add src :)15:22
netritiouslast thu of the month15:23
netritiouswait15:23
cyberangerhaving only binary should be ok15:23
netritiouslast Tue of the month15:23
cyberangerbut the minimal disc not working, huh15:23
cyberangerdo you know why that fails?15:23
netritiousso this coming Tue :)15:23
netritiousthe lists have been quiet on the matter15:23
netritiousso I'm not 100% it's going to happen15:24
cyberangerwell, my end seems to need less than that time, shouldn't be an issue15:25
cyberangerbut that bit throws a wrench in (however, I was thinking april when I asked)15:25
cyberangernetritious: oh, debmirror has a partial flaw15:27
cyberangerno udeb files15:27
cyberangerwhich is only used for...you guessed it, bootstrapped installs, minimal install included15:28
cyberangerso I guess an alternate install disc or adapting my methods somehow for udeb15:28
cyberangerexcid3|party-hat: a little early for a party, but I'm game15:29
cyberangernetritious: that's the issue, it seems15:29
excid3|party-hatJust continuing the party from last evening15:29
netritiousnice party-hat excid3 :)15:30
cyberangernetritious: what version of the MinimalCD were you going to use?15:30
netritious10.0415:30
* excid3|party-hat hands netritious a dunce cap15:30
netritiousalways LTS with me cyberanger :)15:30
excid3|party-hatwe were all out of party hats15:30
excid3|party-hat;)15:30
netritious:D15:30
* netritious goes to sit on stool in the corner :/15:31
cyberangernetritious: for the installfest too?15:31
excid3|party-hat:-)15:32
excid3|party-hatcheck this out15:32
excid3|party-hathttp://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/index#/leaf-electric-car/15:32
excid3|party-hatthats _not_ in flash!15:32
cyberangernetritious: I'll assume yes and see what files lucid's installer grabs and add some code to maintain that15:34
netritiousah so udeb is the issue...thx for the info cyberanger15:35
netritiousexcid3|party-hat: html5?15:35
excid3|party-hatyessir15:35
netritiousalthough in the source I see src="/leaf-electric-car/js/js.swf__v2.0.22.gz.js"15:35
excid3|party-hatyeah, I think they meant it to look like Flash15:37
netritiousI didn't investigate any further and know absolutely nothing about html5 other than what I've rad in the news15:37
netritiousah k15:37
cyberangernetritious: correct, at least a partial (I've got source in mine too, in addation to hardy and lucid's binaries, like you have, and yet after a quick check, after a quick thought, no udeb's)15:37
excid3|party-hatIt is certainly impressive15:37
netritious+1 excid3|party-hat15:38
netritiouscyberanger: so if I mirrored a mirror in it's entirety, would solve the problem?15:38
cyberangernetritious: this problem, yes15:40
cyberangerbut it turns out, I'm not even doing that (I thought for lucid and hardy, I had EVERYTHING, and that's not the case, as this proves)15:41
cyberangernetritious: so yeah, sounds like the two step rsync method is needed15:41
cyberangerbut I'm gonna try and look into it further15:48
cyberangerfind out what files aren't on my server after a netinst by reviewing 404's in a logfile15:48
cyberangerand adapting the debmirror script in the process15:48
cyberangermight be a predictable way to grab udebs with that then15:49
cyberangernetritious: and if there is little udeb files to matter, then run:15:50
cyberangerrsync -a -f"+ */" -f"+ *.udeb" -f"- *" source/ destination/15:50
cyberangersource being archive.ubuntu.com and /mirror for destination, in my case15:50
cyberangerthat'd grab all udeb files15:50
cyberangerwith only lucid and hardy files for everything else15:51
cyberangernetritious: I'm running that line now, to see how much space udeb's will add15:58
cyberangerand if it works, I'll let you know15:58
netritiouscool thanks cyberanger16:00
cyberangerthere might also be some other files too, so I'll be as verbose as I can on that (without getting carried away)16:01
netritiousyo pace_t_zulu16:35
netritioussorry for missing the meeting last night16:35
pace_t_zulusup netritious16:35
netritiousI'll make the next for certain16:35
pace_t_zulunetritious: you weren't the only one ;)16:35
netritiousit's happened to me before..not a leadership meeting but a monthly meeting16:36
netritiousit was like "woo-hoo, any one home?" :)16:37
netritiouspace_t_zulu: have you worked with encrypted user directories? luks/ecryptfs?16:41
pace_t_zulunetritious: i've done it with fedora16:42
pace_t_zulunetritious: and i've used "FileVault" for Mac OS X16:42
netritioushere's my scenario...16:42
pace_t_zuluok16:42
netritiousubuntu lucid server x64, encrypted user directory using luks, ssh enabled, using keys...16:43
netritiousbut since the directory is encrypted can't read .ssh/authorized_keys16:43
netritiousso I got around that by adding a .ssh/ dir to the home dir16:44
netritiousand now can login with passwordless ssh, but greeted with an encrypted home directory...16:44
pace_t_zuluok...16:45
netritiousno login passwd, no auto-unlock...16:45
netritiousno biggie, ecryptfs-mount-private && cd $HOME && source .profile16:45
pace_t_zulussh has never been a problem for me with filevault on mac os x16:46
netritiousoh n/m just now figured it out16:46
pace_t_zuluwhat was the problem?16:46
netritiousssh isn't the prob, nor unlocking the home dir after login, but running commands remotely fail...16:47
netritiousno login=no auto-unlock of luks encrypted home directory16:47
netritiouswhat I just realized is that I just need a key for the encrypted directory16:49
netritiousso login with ssh, remote command to unlock using key, /run scripts form /home/<user>...done. I think. gotta try it first.16:51
netritiousmaybe will have scp the key over16:52
netritious*have to16:53
techMilesspeaking of ssh keys.16:53
techMilesyou guys read about hgGary?16:53
netritiousoh yeah16:53
techMilesit wouldn't have been ridiculous if it weren't for all the idiotic holes they left open.16:54
techMilesI mean, srsly, a monkey with a checklist can go through and update security patches.16:54
netritiousI didn't get the scoop on exactly what vulnerabilities existed that were used to exploit the network16:55
Svpernova09netritious: tonight 7pm republic coffee, arduino show and tell16:55
Svpernova09>.>16:55
techMileshttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack.ars/16:56
netritiousSvpernova09: TGIF at 6:00-7:00/7:30, then band practice...not official yet, but I may be in a band :D16:56
Svpernova09oh nice!16:57
* netritious <3's him some Rock and Roll! \m/16:58
netritiouscool techMiles...thx16:58
techMilesnp17:00
pace_t_zuluhgGary?17:00
techMilesI meant b17:00
pace_t_zuluhbGary?17:00
techMilesidk where g came from. >.>17:00
pace_t_zuluhttp://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2294/internetsanon.jpg17:02
pace_t_zulunetritious: i heard something abot this17:03
netritiousROFLMAO, sql injection? tell me it doesn't get worse17:03
techMilesnetritious: it does.17:05
techMilesnetritious: two words (well one' shyphenated) single-hash passwords17:06
netritiousomg, I mean, maybe I don't run the tightest ship (I just don't have that type of time or money) but I'm also not trying to sell security services either lol17:07
techMilesnetritious: hbgary is responsible for more than one triple-letter US agency.17:08
techMilesis responsible for helping secure*17:08
techMilessecurity services, auditing services, etc17:08
netritiousbetter now to be discovered instead of later17:08
techMilesyeah17:08
netritiouspace_t_zulu: nice image...hadn't seen that one17:09
chibihogoshinohttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/18/1558258/A-Car-You-Can-Drive-With-Your-Thoughts17:10
chibihogoshinonice17:10
netritioussalt and pepper is better than salt alone :D17:14
techMileslol17:14
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netritiouspassword12317:27
netritiouswhoops! I typed my password! oh no! :D17:27
techMileslol17:29
pace_t_zulu******** .... cool ... when i type my password freenode automatically masks it with asterisks ... awesome ... try it!17:51
netritioushehehe17:53
netritiousI don't see any asterisks pace_t_zulu17:54
pace_t_zulunetritious: ;)17:54
netritious:)17:54
pace_t_zulunetritious: you have to send ...17:54
pace_t_zulunetritious: before freenode can detect your password ;)17:55
netritiouspace_t_zulu: was it you that pasted a link to that in here? :)17:56
pace_t_zulunetritious: ?17:56
netritiousoh I think that was exodus_ms or maybe even binary_mutant17:56
netritiouswas a convo that went about like that ^^17:57
netritioussomewhere on IRC, and someone posted it to their web site17:57
netritiousbinary_mutant or binarymutant? can't recall17:59
netritioustechMiles: that was an awesome link...took me a minute to get through it all, but was worth the read18:00
techMilesnetritious: agreed. :)18:00
techMilesI was appaled18:00
techMilesapalled?18:00
techMilessomething. :)18:00
netritiousthat article pretty much sums up the do's and don'ts(?)18:01
netritiouscould use it in a training seminar18:01
netritiousI'm not naïve enough to think I'm impregnable since, idk, I *am* connected to the internet lol18:03
techMilesmmhhmmmm18:04
techMilesto all18:04
netritioustechMiles: you into pen testing?18:05
techMileswould like to be18:09
techMilespen testing, infosec. am taking a digi forens class. which covers a bit of it, in a way.18:18
techMilesbbl18:18
pace_t_zului find this stuff very very interesting18:29
pace_t_zulujust very difficult to practice18:29
pace_t_zulunetritious: you ever practice auditing ?18:29
netritiousI do some pace_t_zulu18:29
pace_t_zulunetritious: at customer's request?18:30
netritiouson my won networks of course18:30
netritious*my own18:30
pace_t_zuluah18:30
netritiousit's good to keep an eye on things18:30
netritiousI try to read log files daily18:30
netritiousI have a few grep's that help me find a few things, and using snort->mysql has been good for some analysis18:31
netritiousnmap ane metaploit are good too18:31
netritiousargh can't type today18:32
netritiousnmap and metsploit18:32
pace_t_zulunetritious: i'd like to learn more about that myself18:32
netritioussnort is great but setup takes a bit of footwork18:33
netritiousI take that back..snort isn't too bad, but you have to setup barnyard and unified logging AND mysql server18:34
netritiousI just use SQL to find things I want to know18:34
netritiousotherwise you're left grep'ing the snort logs, and it ain't your regular kind of log file lol18:36
netritiouspace_t_zulu: have you used snort?18:36
pace_t_zulunetritious: not successfuly18:38
netritiouspace_t_zulu: I learn best by example...install either pfSense or ebox in a VM18:39
netritiousboth/either have snort packages that are somewhat configured and take a bit of the work out of it18:39
netritiouspfSense does a much better job18:40
netritiousand even though it's not ubuntu or linux (pFSense is FreeBSD -- kind of) it works the same18:40
netritiousconfigs are mostly identical18:41
netritiouspfSense will give you a "webConfigurator" pointy clicky web app that you can do the high level snort config including barnyard and mysql setup18:43
netritiousmysql has to be ran on a remote machine though, either on your lan or wan18:43
netritiousafter setup start poking around :)18:43
netritiousnmap is as easy as...18:45
netritioussudo apt-get install nmap && nmap <options> <target(s)>18:45
netritiousthe man pages are pretty good...i almost always have to use them to remember all the switches18:46
netritiousmetasploit is easiest on windows IMHO18:46
netritioususe a gui and you're done :)18:47
netritiousthere are a few paid apps out there that get the job done too18:49
netritiousif you use windows18:49
netritiousnot sure for linux18:49
netritiouspretty insane stuff too, usually with full reporting and automation18:49
netritious</rant>18:50
netritiouswill someone stop me next time? :P18:50
netritiousoh, and you should definitely check out OSSIM pace_t_zulu18:52
netritiousI haven't had a chance to play with it yet but I've read a good bit about it18:53
netritiousand fail2ban...I think that's the preferred package for ubuntu, and it's much simpler to maintain...I haven't had a s much luck with it, but that's an even longer story :D18:55
netritiousany questions pace_t_zulu?19:02
netritiouswrst you're awfully quiet today19:06
netritiousalrighty...bbl TGIF19:08
vychuneping wrst19:11
pace_t_zuludamn... missed netritious19:45
wrsthello :)20:38
Xpistoshey]20:38
wrsthow's it going Xpistos?20:39
Xpistosnot bad20:40
XpistosI could use a Pepsi, but outside of that20:40
Xpistoshow is your day Mr wrst20:40
wrstpretty good Xpistos, just enjoying the day20:41
XpistosOh my god I laughed my ass off21:07
Xpistoswww.youtube.com/watch?v=daS1ivc_ycg21:07
Xpistosand this one21:21
Xpistoswww.youtube.com/watch?v=u56aU561AaQ21:21
netritiousback21:34
wrstwb netritious21:38
wrst:)21:38
netritioushey wrst :)21:39
netritiousty21:39
* cyberanger hands Xpistos a pepsi21:41
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: network outage yesterday21:41
cyberangersorry21:41
XpistosI like pepsi21:42
pace_t_zulucyberanger: ok21:45
pace_t_zulucyberanger: how is it you were logged in?21:45
pace_t_zulucyberanger: we saw your handle logged in ... but it reported you were idle for ~11hours21:47
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I'm allways logged in21:51
cyberangeron my server21:51
cyberangerbut my server is in london, but I couldn't ssh in21:52
netritiousafk21:57
Xpistosalright. that is going to do it for me22:07
Xpistosnighty night everyone and remember to listen to the alt3red egos Shotcast releasing sunday at 8 central!22:07
Xpistoshttp://alt3redegos.com22:07
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I'm all wifi and celluar again, which suits me (and my wallet) better22:09
cyberangerbut I keep my server going, since celluar can cut out22:10
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i understand now22:10
pace_t_zulucyberanger: isn't a server in london expensive?22:10
cyberangernot more than any other, really22:12
cyberangermines a linode, same cost22:13
cyberangerbut I can upgrade to a dedicated at about the same rates as here too22:13

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