[01:21] <pace_t_zulu_> Driving home
[01:22] <wrst> chibihogoshino:  what distro is that built on?
[01:22] <chibihogoshino> im not shur
[01:23] <wrst> i'm downloading :)
[01:24] <chibihogoshino> i only have 400 meg on my hd right now
[01:29] <wrst> chibihogoshino: wow
[01:30] <chibihogoshino> yeah it sucks.. i need another one
[01:32] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger ping
[01:33] <pace_t_zulu> hmmm
[01:33] <chibihogoshino> that was fun
[01:34] <pace_t_zulu> hope the rest didn't forget about the leadership meeting
[01:34] <chibihogoshino> when is it ?
[01:35] <pace_t_zulu> ummm
[01:35] <pace_t_zulu> right now
[01:35] <chibihogoshino> oh
[01:35] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger's idle time is 10 hours
[01:35] <pace_t_zulu> that can't be good
[01:35] <chibihogoshino> the topic is a bit mis leading
[01:36] <pace_t_zulu> netritious linuxman410 and jfenn2199 aren't even logged in
[01:36] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: all the leaders agreed upon the time for this meeting
[01:36] <chibihogoshino> thursday the 17th at 8:30 ?
[01:37] <pace_t_zulu> yea... i am updating the wiki while i wait
[01:37] <pace_t_zulu> i'll double check that time
[01:37] <chibihogoshino> i wish there was a gcal i could subscribe to
[01:39] <chibihogoshino> like to have on my tasks list .. with my other stuff, on my desktop. so i see it.
[01:40] <pace_t_zulu> seems like a decent idea
[01:40] <pace_t_zulu> i put the meeting right into my calendar... would have forgotten if i had not done so
[01:41] <chibihogoshino> i didnt know about it .. or i forgot .
[01:41] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-us-tn.20110203_1908.html
[01:41] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: it's just for points of contact and the trustee
[01:42] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: cyberanger wanted to hold it
[01:43] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: you may need to get cell numbers ;)
[01:44] <chibihogoshino> 3rd Thursday means nothing to my head.. im really bad with dates .. if i dont have them in front of me i wont remember
[01:44] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: we seem to have trouble with our meeting attendance
[01:45] <chibihogoshino> we need a gcal that everyone can subscribe to
[01:45] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i'm like chibihogoshino 1st thurs, 3rd tues, 2nd wed etc all confuses me :)
[01:45] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: me too
[01:45] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: but that's what calendars are for
[01:45] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: google calendar makes that stuff easy
[01:45] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: makes a good suggestion about having a team calendar
[01:46] <chibihogoshino> if we use our own then its not uniform and inconsistent
[01:46] <wrst> agreed pace_t_zulu i use google calendar all the time :)
[01:46] <wrst> that's an excellent suggestion
[01:46] <pace_t_zulu> credit to chibihogoshino
[01:47] <wrst> for that suggestion we may have to help chibihogoshino clear up some space on his HDD so he has more than 400MB :)
[01:47] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:47] <chibihogoshino> its down to 26 meg now
[01:50] <pace_t_zulu> this is a bit frustrating
[01:50] <chibihogoshino> cyberanger: is almost never late or gone
[01:55] <pace_t_zulu> it seems reasonable to say this meeting isn't going to happen
[01:57] <chibihogoshino> it still could tho . who is all here ?
[02:00] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: as far as the "leadership" goes... just me
[02:00] <chibihogoshino> ah
[02:00] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: technically cyberanger is logged in... but he's been idle for nearly 11 hours
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[02:01] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: cyberanger called the meeting
[02:01] <pace_t_zulu> so i'm not even sure what the agenda would be
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> i wonder whats up
[02:01] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: well it's supposed to be a monthly meeting
[02:02] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[02:02] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: so it's not like something is up in particular
[02:02] <chibihogoshino> with cyberanger
[02:03] <pace_t_zulu> well i need to go
[02:03] <pace_t_zulu> later guys
[02:04] <chibihogoshino> peace
[02:04] <pace_t_zulu> disappointing :(
[02:48] <wrst> chibihogoshino: i'm burning that disk
[02:49] <chibihogoshino> cool
[02:50] <wrst> well i'm off to give it a whirl i doubt my wireless will work on the old laptop for some reason
[02:50] <chibihogoshino> good luck
[02:53] <chibihogoshino> cd ?
[02:53] <chibihogoshino> no usb stick ?
[03:03] <wrst> well that was disappointing chibihogoshino
[03:04] <wrst> yeah chibihogoshino i didn't take the time to do the usb thing, and its built on opensuse
[03:04] <wrst> which may be why it was disappointing
[03:04] <chibihogoshino> what was wrong with it
[03:06] <vychune> linuxman ping?
[03:07] <wrst> nothing really wrong i don't guess chibihogoshino but not exactly something to knock my socks off thats for sure
[03:07] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[03:10] <vychune> o/
[03:15] <chibihogoshino> \o/
[03:16] <chibihogoshino>  |
[03:16] <chibihogoshino>  /\
[03:16] <vychune> i just got a check i the mail for 2850
[03:16] <chibihogoshino> aww.. my stick man fell apart
[03:16] <vychune> lol
[03:16] <chibihogoshino> cool vychune
[03:17] <chibihogoshino> what are you going to do ?
[03:17] <vychune> idk it maybe fake
[03:17] <chibihogoshino> oh
[03:17] <chibihogoshino> thought it might be your taxes
[03:18] <vychune> i typed in the routing # gnomes website came up in the results
[03:18] <vychune> i didnt file im a dependent
[03:18] <chibihogoshino> oh
[03:19] <chibihogoshino> gnomes web site ?
[03:19] <vychune> yep
[03:20] <chibihogoshino> the routing number for the check ?
[03:20] <vychune> yep
[03:20] <chibihogoshino> did you mean google ?
[03:20] <vychune> yes
[03:20] <chibihogoshino> oh
[03:21] <chibihogoshino> it would be odd if you searched gnomes web site for the number and got something
[03:21] <vychune> lol
[03:21] <vychune> bank info too
[03:21] <vychune> its thier rout #
[03:21] <chibihogoshino> what bank ?
[03:23] <vychune> citizen bank
[03:24] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[03:24] <vychune> of connecticut
[03:24] <vychune> brb
[03:24] <chibihogoshino> call them and check it out
[03:24] <chibihogoshino> ok
[03:24] <vychune_brb> i will
[03:34] <chibihogoshino> in xfce4.8 when you type something in the search box you get when you hit alt f2 it open a browser and searches google if it cant find the program
[03:41] <vychune_brb> not that know of
[03:42] <vychune_brb> gn
[03:43] <chibihogoshino> gn ?
[03:43] <chibihogoshino> know of what ?
[04:47] <techMiles> guiiiize.
[04:47] <techMiles> what is it I'm thinking of?
[04:47] <techMiles> make distclean...
[04:47] <techMiles> but it says 'don't know how to make distclean'.
[04:49] <techMiles> nvm got it
[05:08] <chibihogoshino> um
[05:08] <techMiles> sorry. lol. been awhile since i've had to do CLI work.
[06:20] <cyberanger> wrst: cell numbers wouldn't have helped, early this morning I metioned network issues, they progressed over the day, seems fine now
[06:20] <cyberanger> but they got worse first
[11:45] <wrst> glad you are back amongst the living cyberanger :)
[11:47] <cyberanger> life and death are matters of perspective
[11:48] <cyberanger> one might say I'm back amongst the dead, for spending so much time on IRC
[11:49] <cyberanger> but I'm chatting with people from places I can't physically go and see, so who's really living
[11:49] <cyberanger> ;-)
[11:49] <cyberanger> how's your morning wrst ?
[11:50] <wrst> good cyberanger just about to head out i will be back amongst the dead in a few! see you then
[11:51] <cyberanger> dead or living ;-)
[11:52] <cyberanger> see you then
[12:43] <wrst> woot i'm back to the abode of whatever we are cyberanger
[13:52] <cyberanger> wrst: lol
[13:52] <cyberanger> I've been toying with avahi
[13:54] <cyberanger> found some interesting articles that make me want to hack into something a little different
[13:55] <cyberanger> wrst: I think life is what you make of it, you can't choose death
[13:55] <cyberanger> but calling a 9-5 life, might be a streach
[13:55] <wrst> well if you can avoid the 9-5 life you should :)
[13:56]  * cyberanger loves his work very much, somedays I hate it with an equally strong passion
[13:58] <cyberanger> and it's a strong passion, since I've done some related stuff on my off time, help here in IRC, working on swissknife-router, and the 3 state mountain bike race, setup a mesh network
[13:58] <cyberanger> unfortunately, freelance and commission is just so small a margin
[13:59] <cyberanger> there's more time off to hate and love it ;-)
[13:59] <cyberanger> wrst: of course, there's one skill that makes sense outside a 9-5, an accounting skill
[14:00] <cyberanger> everybody hates being broke, it's worse to be in the red though
[14:02] <cyberanger> chris4585: when you get a chance, you might like http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan
[14:05] <cyberanger> Dan9186: are you around?
[14:06]  * Dan9186 sneeks in
[14:06]  * cyberanger grabs Dan9186 so he can't as easily sneak out
[14:06] <Dan9186> what's up?
[14:06] <cyberanger> do you remember your irssi ssh user
[14:07] <cyberanger> that wouldn't use screen?
[14:07] <Dan9186> i remember him, i'm suprised you do though :P
[14:07] <cyberanger> well, I said I'd help on that issue, and it's on my list of things to blog on
[14:07] <cyberanger> and that's one thing of a few I'm gonna fix this week
[14:08] <Dan9186> i added a .bash_startup to his profile that executes a screen create/reconnect every time he loads up
[14:08] <Dan9186> the only thing i didn't do was the ssh timeout
[14:08] <cyberanger> oh, you beat me to it
[14:08] <cyberanger> oh, ok, is that still desired
[14:08] <cyberanger> ?
[14:08] <Dan9186> which i'm still game for if you wana show/writeup
[14:09] <cyberanger> ok, that's actually not that hard, it was the bashrc bit that's more of a pain (inverse effects if done wrong)
[14:10] <cyberanger> btw, what switches are you using for screen, I use UdRR
[14:10] <cyberanger> U = UTF8 (something good for irc) d = detach (in case of glitch where it thinks it's still attached) and RR is give me a screen, no matter what (normally reattach)
[14:11] <cyberanger> Dan9186: did you add any switches to screen?
[14:12] <cyberanger> reason I ask is just to help prevent any glitches I came across myself
[14:13] <cyberanger> Dan9186: anyhow, in his account we need to edit a file, ~/.screenrc
[14:15] <Xpistos> what up
[14:15] <cyberanger> and add two lines
[14:15] <vychune> o/
[14:15] <Xpistos> as it turns out it wasn't the server it was the damn modem
[14:15] <cyberanger> idle 900; detach
[14:15] <cyberanger> screen -t irssi irssi
[14:16] <vychune> my boss thought i was gonna go to the lamar loco at 9.45 in my house clothes
[14:16] <cyberanger> Dan9186: that is the minimum, and applies to a new screen session, there's a way to apply that to current screens too
[14:16] <Xpistos> what is lamar loco
[14:17] <vychune> lamar location
[14:17] <Xpistos> cyberanger: what is the -t argument?
[14:17] <cyberanger> Xpistos: my issue increased yesterday, actual outage for all intents
[14:18] <cyberanger> not sure where in the pipeline it was, turned into a reset
[14:18] <cyberanger> Xpistos: title
[14:18] <Dan9186> cyberanger: sorry had o take care of something i'm just using dR <name>
[14:18] <cyberanger> and you can shove those lines into a screenrc, as I've done for rtorrent
[14:18] <cyberanger> Dan9186: that's ok, what's name in this case?
[14:19] <Dan9186> irssi i believe
[14:20] <cyberanger> Dan9186: ok, if you follow my bit above, I'd suggest changing that to just UdRR
[14:20] <Dan9186> what is the second R for? and any particular reason for telling it UTF8?
[14:20] <cyberanger> since I added a bit that'll start irssi only on new sessions (I'd fear if you did it that way, you might somehow wind up with mutiple irssi clients running)
[14:21] <cyberanger> Dan9186: kinda a failsafe, as the author puts it "give me a screen, I don't care how"
[14:21] <vychune> Xpistos: 9:45 pm btw after i got off work
[14:21] <cyberanger> nothing to reattach, the 2nd R says, ok, I want a new one
[14:22] <Xpistos> what is that a bar or something?
[14:22] <vychune> Faster Taxes
[14:22] <Xpistos> oh
[14:22] <Dan9186> ? thats why i do the dR, it reattaches or creates a new one
[14:22] <vychune> where im tech support
[14:22] <vychune> they told me the same day im getting laid off
[14:23] <cyberanger> it might not create a new one, I'd have to read up on the manpage again
[14:23] <cyberanger> there was an added benifit for two R's
[14:23] <cyberanger> and it related to getting a screen
[14:23] <cyberanger> as for U, irssi demands utf8, or it gets weird
[14:23] <cyberanger> brb
[14:26] <Xpistos> Atta boy Watson!
[14:26] <vychune> ???
[14:27] <Xpistos> http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/everything/~3/iih5jluxiCk/bug-lets-humans-grab-daily-double-as-watson-triumphs-on-jeopardy.ars
[14:27] <Dan9186> RR tells it to use the first session if more than one is returned as available where as the R just creates one or reattaches if there is one
[14:27] <vychune> Watson on Jep?
[14:27] <vychune> yeah i saw that it was cool
[14:27] <Xpistos> I missed it but I wanted the computer to crush the puny humans
[14:35] <vychune> lol
[14:41] <cyberanger> Xpistos: your sure
[14:41] <cyberanger> manpages says -D -RR  Attach here and now. Whatever that means, just do it.
[14:42] <cyberanger> and if it was that literral, I'd allways have my rtorrent session appear, not my mutlipurpose screen (with irc in it)
[14:42] <cyberanger> hrm, makes more sense that way though
[14:42] <Xpistos> sure about what
[14:43] <cyberanger> Xpistos: sorry, Dan9186's nick colour is poor, mad it overlap with your watson url
[14:43] <cyberanger> Dan9186: dan ^^^^
[14:44]  * cyberanger looks for a way to tweak nick colours
[14:44] <cyberanger> fixed that, whoops
[14:45] <cyberanger> having that colour so close to the background just sucked
[14:46] <Dan9186> lol
[15:01] <cyberanger> it's like trying to see a dalmation is a blizzard
[15:01] <vychune> in you mean
[15:02] <cyberanger> you can see the spots, but if you star hard enough, you'll see many spots, due to a migration
[15:02] <cyberanger> yes s/in/is/
[15:06] <netritious> morning
[15:06] <cyberanger> hey netritious
[15:06] <cyberanger> how's the day
[15:06] <vychune> o/
[15:07] <netritious> hey cyberanger, vychune :)
[15:08] <netritious> apologies for not making the meeting last night, will be here next time
[15:10] <cyberanger> netritious: that's unexceptable
[15:10] <cyberanger> is what I'd say if I hadn't missed it too ;-)
[15:10] <cyberanger> networking issues here all of yesterday
[15:11] <cyberanger> slow or none
[15:11] <cyberanger> the throughput at the end was too low for ssh or irc, but I could see dns intermittently working
[15:11] <cyberanger> all fixed now, but it was odd
[15:12] <netritious> ha
[15:12] <netritious> :)
[15:12] <cyberanger> netritious: pace_t_zulu was the only one, so I think he deserves an award, the golden ubuntu live disc?
[15:13]  * cyberanger grabs his paint, isn't rich enough for real gold
[15:14] <cyberanger> jfenn2199 and linuxman410 wasn't there (in all fairness, jfenn2199 missed the meeting that we schudled last nights meeting, and linuxman410 might not have been there either)
[15:15] <cyberanger> netritious: gonna shoot this in an email too, but this was the main thing, and west tn is ahead of the game in this, is adjust the application with anything new, by saturday's end
[15:16] <cyberanger> and figure out how to encourage events that will be held regularly
[15:16] <cyberanger> and between the lug and hackerspace, I think I can say memphis has been active on that
[15:17] <cyberanger> except documentation of all of it (which is above the rest of us, luckily)
[15:17] <netritious> it's documented
[15:18] <netritious> maybe not who all info in one place but I used the mailing list and the web site to announce anything I organize
[15:18] <netritious> and in here too
[15:18] <cyberanger> well, it needs to be from now on (I can't complain about prior events anyhow, I never had the forsight for any event I've been to except this years confrence I ran computer gaming, and honestly, there wasn't much to shoot photos of
[15:18] <netritious> at the meeting I reported head count so that's in the channel logs somewhere
[15:19] <cyberanger> it's more of writing a howto
[15:19] <cyberanger> to say what I did do
[15:19] <netritious> http://ubuntu-tennessee.org
[15:19] <cyberanger> netritious: can you put together an installfest, if your lug is intrested?
[15:20] <netritious> there is *supposed* to be an installfest this month
[15:20] <netritious> and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is on the menu
[15:20] <cyberanger> I've got a kit of scripts and such for that, if you'd like
[15:20] <netritious> sure
[15:21] <netritious> I take all free tools freely :P
[15:21] <cyberanger> and you've already got a critical peice of the requirements (your debconf mirror)
[15:21] <cyberanger> ok, when this month (there's not alot left of febuary)
[15:22] <netritious> eh it's only a partial mirror...debs only, and netinst refuses to accept my local mirror for installation sources...update sources ok, install sources not ok
[15:22] <netritious> but I can prob just add src :)
[15:23] <netritious> last thu of the month
[15:23] <netritious> wait
[15:23] <cyberanger> having only binary should be ok
[15:23] <netritious> last Tue of the month
[15:23] <cyberanger> but the minimal disc not working, huh
[15:23] <cyberanger> do you know why that fails?
[15:23] <netritious> so this coming Tue :)
[15:23] <netritious> the lists have been quiet on the matter
[15:24] <netritious> so I'm not 100% it's going to happen
[15:25] <cyberanger> well, my end seems to need less than that time, shouldn't be an issue
[15:25] <cyberanger> but that bit throws a wrench in (however, I was thinking april when I asked)
[15:27] <cyberanger> netritious: oh, debmirror has a partial flaw
[15:27] <cyberanger> no udeb files
[15:28] <cyberanger> which is only used for...you guessed it, bootstrapped installs, minimal install included
[15:28] <cyberanger> so I guess an alternate install disc or adapting my methods somehow for udeb
[15:29] <cyberanger> excid3|party-hat: a little early for a party, but I'm game
[15:29] <cyberanger> netritious: that's the issue, it seems
[15:29] <excid3|party-hat> Just continuing the party from last evening
[15:30] <netritious> nice party-hat excid3 :)
[15:30] <cyberanger> netritious: what version of the MinimalCD were you going to use?
[15:30] <netritious> 10.04
[15:30]  * excid3|party-hat hands netritious a dunce cap
[15:30] <netritious> always LTS with me cyberanger :)
[15:30] <excid3|party-hat> we were all out of party hats
[15:30] <excid3|party-hat> ;)
[15:30] <netritious> :D
[15:31]  * netritious goes to sit on stool in the corner :/
[15:31] <cyberanger> netritious: for the installfest too?
[15:32] <excid3|party-hat> :-)
[15:32] <excid3|party-hat> check this out
[15:32] <excid3|party-hat> http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/index#/leaf-electric-car/
[15:32] <excid3|party-hat> thats _not_ in flash!
[15:34] <cyberanger> netritious: I'll assume yes and see what files lucid's installer grabs and add some code to maintain that
[15:35] <netritious> ah so udeb is the issue...thx for the info cyberanger
[15:35] <netritious> excid3|party-hat: html5?
[15:35] <excid3|party-hat> yessir
[15:35] <netritious> although in the source I see src="/leaf-electric-car/js/js.swf__v2.0.22.gz.js"
[15:37] <excid3|party-hat> yeah, I think they meant it to look like Flash
[15:37] <netritious> I didn't investigate any further and know absolutely nothing about html5 other than what I've rad in the news
[15:37] <netritious> ah k
[15:37] <cyberanger> netritious: correct, at least a partial (I've got source in mine too, in addation to hardy and lucid's binaries, like you have, and yet after a quick check, after a quick thought, no udeb's)
[15:37] <excid3|party-hat> It is certainly impressive
[15:38] <netritious> +1 excid3|party-hat
[15:38] <netritious> cyberanger: so if I mirrored a mirror in it's entirety, would solve the problem?
[15:40] <cyberanger> netritious: this problem, yes
[15:41] <cyberanger> but it turns out, I'm not even doing that (I thought for lucid and hardy, I had EVERYTHING, and that's not the case, as this proves)
[15:41] <cyberanger> netritious: so yeah, sounds like the two step rsync method is needed
[15:48] <cyberanger> but I'm gonna try and look into it further
[15:48] <cyberanger> find out what files aren't on my server after a netinst by reviewing 404's in a logfile
[15:48] <cyberanger> and adapting the debmirror script in the process
[15:49] <cyberanger> might be a predictable way to grab udebs with that then
[15:50] <cyberanger> netritious: and if there is little udeb files to matter, then run:
[15:50] <cyberanger> rsync -a -f"+ */" -f"+ *.udeb" -f"- *" source/ destination/
[15:50] <cyberanger> source being archive.ubuntu.com and /mirror for destination, in my case
[15:50] <cyberanger> that'd grab all udeb files
[15:51] <cyberanger> with only lucid and hardy files for everything else
[15:58] <cyberanger> netritious: I'm running that line now, to see how much space udeb's will add
[15:58] <cyberanger> and if it works, I'll let you know
[16:00] <netritious> cool thanks cyberanger
[16:01] <cyberanger> there might also be some other files too, so I'll be as verbose as I can on that (without getting carried away)
[16:35] <netritious> yo pace_t_zulu
[16:35] <netritious> sorry for missing the meeting last night
[16:35] <pace_t_zulu> sup netritious
[16:35] <netritious> I'll make the next for certain
[16:35] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: you weren't the only one ;)
[16:36] <netritious> it's happened to me before..not a leadership meeting but a monthly meeting
[16:37] <netritious> it was like "woo-hoo, any one home?" :)
[16:41] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: have you worked with encrypted user directories? luks/ecryptfs?
[16:42] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: i've done it with fedora
[16:42] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: and i've used "FileVault" for Mac OS X
[16:42] <netritious> here's my scenario...
[16:42] <pace_t_zulu> ok
[16:43] <netritious> ubuntu lucid server x64, encrypted user directory using luks, ssh enabled, using keys...
[16:43] <netritious> but since the directory is encrypted can't read .ssh/authorized_keys
[16:44] <netritious> so I got around that by adding a .ssh/ dir to the home dir
[16:44] <netritious> and now can login with passwordless ssh, but greeted with an encrypted home directory...
[16:45] <pace_t_zulu> ok...
[16:45] <netritious> no login passwd, no auto-unlock...
[16:45] <netritious> no biggie, ecryptfs-mount-private && cd $HOME && source .profile
[16:46] <pace_t_zulu> ssh has never been a problem for me with filevault on mac os x
[16:46] <netritious> oh n/m just now figured it out
[16:46] <pace_t_zulu> what was the problem?
[16:47] <netritious> ssh isn't the prob, nor unlocking the home dir after login, but running commands remotely fail...
[16:47] <netritious> no login=no auto-unlock of luks encrypted home directory
[16:49] <netritious> what I just realized is that I just need a key for the encrypted directory
[16:51] <netritious> so login with ssh, remote command to unlock using key, /run scripts form /home/<user>...done. I think. gotta try it first.
[16:52] <netritious> maybe will have scp the key over
[16:53] <netritious> *have to
[16:53] <techMiles> speaking of ssh keys.
[16:53] <techMiles> you guys read about hgGary?
[16:53] <netritious> oh yeah
[16:54] <techMiles> it wouldn't have been ridiculous if it weren't for all the idiotic holes they left open.
[16:54] <techMiles> I mean, srsly, a monkey with a checklist can go through and update security patches.
[16:55] <netritious> I didn't get the scoop on exactly what vulnerabilities existed that were used to exploit the network
[16:55] <Svpernova09> netritious: tonight 7pm republic coffee, arduino show and tell
[16:55] <Svpernova09> >.>
[16:56] <techMiles> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack.ars/
[16:56] <netritious> Svpernova09: TGIF at 6:00-7:00/7:30, then band practice...not official yet, but I may be in a band :D
[16:57] <Svpernova09> oh nice!
[16:58]  * netritious <3's him some Rock and Roll! \m/
[16:58] <netritious> cool techMiles...thx
[17:00] <techMiles> np
[17:00] <pace_t_zulu> hgGary?
[17:00] <techMiles> I meant b
[17:00] <pace_t_zulu> hbGary?
[17:00] <techMiles> idk where g came from. >.>
[17:02] <pace_t_zulu> http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2294/internetsanon.jpg
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: i heard something abot this
[17:03] <netritious> ROFLMAO, sql injection? tell me it doesn't get worse
[17:05] <techMiles> netritious: it does.
[17:06] <techMiles> netritious: two words (well one' shyphenated) single-hash passwords
[17:07] <netritious> omg, I mean, maybe I don't run the tightest ship (I just don't have that type of time or money) but I'm also not trying to sell security services either lol
[17:08] <techMiles> netritious: hbgary is responsible for more than one triple-letter US agency.
[17:08] <techMiles> is responsible for helping secure*
[17:08] <techMiles> security services, auditing services, etc
[17:08] <netritious> better now to be discovered instead of later
[17:08] <techMiles> yeah
[17:09] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: nice image...hadn't seen that one
[17:10] <chibihogoshino> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/18/1558258/A-Car-You-Can-Drive-With-Your-Thoughts
[17:10] <chibihogoshino> nice
[17:14] <netritious> salt and pepper is better than salt alone :D
[17:14] <techMiles> lol
[17:27] <netritious> password123
[17:27] <netritious> whoops! I typed my password! oh no! :D
[17:29] <techMiles> lol
[17:51] <pace_t_zulu> ******** .... cool ... when i type my password freenode automatically masks it with asterisks ... awesome ... try it!
[17:53] <netritious> hehehe
[17:54] <netritious> I don't see any asterisks pace_t_zulu
[17:54] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: ;)
[17:54] <netritious> :)
[17:54] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: you have to send ...
[17:55] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: before freenode can detect your password ;)
[17:56] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: was it you that pasted a link to that in here? :)
[17:56] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: ?
[17:56] <netritious> oh I think that was exodus_ms or maybe even binary_mutant
[17:57] <netritious> was a convo that went about like that ^^
[17:57] <netritious> somewhere on IRC, and someone posted it to their web site
[17:59] <netritious> binary_mutant or binarymutant? can't recall
[18:00] <netritious> techMiles: that was an awesome link...took me a minute to get through it all, but was worth the read
[18:00] <techMiles> netritious: agreed. :)
[18:00] <techMiles> I was appaled
[18:00] <techMiles> apalled?
[18:00] <techMiles> something. :)
[18:01] <netritious> that article pretty much sums up the do's and don'ts(?)
[18:01] <netritious> could use it in a training seminar
[18:03] <netritious> I'm not naïve enough to think I'm impregnable since, idk, I *am* connected to the internet lol
[18:04] <techMiles> mmhhmmmm
[18:04] <techMiles> to all
[18:05] <netritious> techMiles: you into pen testing?
[18:09] <techMiles> would like to be
[18:18] <techMiles> pen testing, infosec. am taking a digi forens class. which covers a bit of it, in a way.
[18:18] <techMiles> bbl
[18:29] <pace_t_zulu> i find this stuff very very interesting
[18:29] <pace_t_zulu> just very difficult to practice
[18:29] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: you ever practice auditing ?
[18:29] <netritious> I do some pace_t_zulu
[18:30] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: at customer's request?
[18:30] <netritious> on my won networks of course
[18:30] <netritious> *my own
[18:30] <pace_t_zulu> ah
[18:30] <netritious> it's good to keep an eye on things
[18:30] <netritious> I try to read log files daily
[18:31] <netritious> I have a few grep's that help me find a few things, and using snort->mysql has been good for some analysis
[18:31] <netritious> nmap ane metaploit are good too
[18:32] <netritious> argh can't type today
[18:32] <netritious> nmap and metsploit
[18:32] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: i'd like to learn more about that myself
[18:33] <netritious> snort is great but setup takes a bit of footwork
[18:34] <netritious> I take that back..snort isn't too bad, but you have to setup barnyard and unified logging AND mysql server
[18:34] <netritious> I just use SQL to find things I want to know
[18:36] <netritious> otherwise you're left grep'ing the snort logs, and it ain't your regular kind of log file lol
[18:36] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: have you used snort?
[18:38] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: not successfuly
[18:39] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: I learn best by example...install either pfSense or ebox in a VM
[18:39] <netritious> both/either have snort packages that are somewhat configured and take a bit of the work out of it
[18:40] <netritious> pfSense does a much better job
[18:40] <netritious> and even though it's not ubuntu or linux (pFSense is FreeBSD -- kind of) it works the same
[18:41] <netritious> configs are mostly identical
[18:43] <netritious> pfSense will give you a "webConfigurator" pointy clicky web app that you can do the high level snort config including barnyard and mysql setup
[18:43] <netritious> mysql has to be ran on a remote machine though, either on your lan or wan
[18:43] <netritious> after setup start poking around :)
[18:45] <netritious> nmap is as easy as...
[18:45] <netritious> sudo apt-get install nmap && nmap <options> <target(s)>
[18:46] <netritious> the man pages are pretty good...i almost always have to use them to remember all the switches
[18:46] <netritious> metasploit is easiest on windows IMHO
[18:47] <netritious> use a gui and you're done :)
[18:49] <netritious> there are a few paid apps out there that get the job done too
[18:49] <netritious> if you use windows
[18:49] <netritious> not sure for linux
[18:49] <netritious> pretty insane stuff too, usually with full reporting and automation
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[18:50] <netritious> will someone stop me next time? :P
[18:52] <netritious> oh, and you should definitely check out OSSIM pace_t_zulu
[18:53] <netritious> I haven't had a chance to play with it yet but I've read a good bit about it
[18:55] <netritious> and fail2ban...I think that's the preferred package for ubuntu, and it's much simpler to maintain...I haven't had a s much luck with it, but that's an even longer story :D
[19:02] <netritious> any questions pace_t_zulu?
[19:06] <netritious> wrst you're awfully quiet today
[19:08] <netritious> alrighty...bbl TGIF
[19:11] <vychune> ping wrst
[19:45] <pace_t_zulu> damn... missed netritious
[20:38] <wrst> hello :)
[20:38] <Xpistos> hey]
[20:39] <wrst> how's it going Xpistos?
[20:40] <Xpistos> not bad
[20:40] <Xpistos> I could use a Pepsi, but outside of that
[20:40] <Xpistos> how is your day Mr wrst
[20:41] <wrst> pretty good Xpistos, just enjoying the day
[21:07] <Xpistos> Oh my god I laughed my ass off
[21:07] <Xpistos> www.youtube.com/watch?v=daS1ivc_ycg
[21:21] <Xpistos> and this one
[21:21] <Xpistos> www.youtube.com/watch?v=u56aU561AaQ
[21:34] <netritious> back
[21:38] <wrst> wb netritious
[21:38] <wrst> :)
[21:39] <netritious> hey wrst :)
[21:39] <netritious> ty
[21:41]  * cyberanger hands Xpistos a pepsi
[21:41] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: network outage yesterday
[21:41] <cyberanger> sorry
[21:42] <Xpistos> I like pepsi
[21:45] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: ok
[21:45] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: how is it you were logged in?
[21:47] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: we saw your handle logged in ... but it reported you were idle for ~11hours
[21:51] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: I'm allways logged in
[21:51] <cyberanger> on my server
[21:52] <cyberanger> but my server is in london, but I couldn't ssh in
[21:57] <netritious> afk
[22:07] <Xpistos> alright. that is going to do it for me
[22:07] <Xpistos> nighty night everyone and remember to listen to the alt3red egos Shotcast releasing sunday at 8 central!
[22:07] <Xpistos> http://alt3redegos.com
[22:09] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: I'm all wifi and celluar again, which suits me (and my wallet) better
[22:10] <cyberanger> but I keep my server going, since celluar can cut out
[22:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i understand now
[22:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: isn't a server in london expensive?
[22:12] <cyberanger> not more than any other, really
[22:13] <cyberanger> mines a linode, same cost
[22:13] <cyberanger> but I can upgrade to a dedicated at about the same rates as here too