[00:00] <angell> My PROBLEM IS.. This installation that this installation keeps giving me errors regarding it not being able to unmount the cdrom...
[00:03] <uRock_> gee, feeling nice today rww?
[00:03] <Blue1> !opera
[00:04] <Aikar> wasnt there a kernel update the other day?
[00:05] <uRock_> Aikar, for which release?
[00:05] <Aikar> 10.10
[00:05] <elijah1> Is there a way I can load a custom xorg.conf file by clicking an icon on the desktop?
[00:05] <uRock_> 10.10 and 10.04 had one like two weeks ago
[00:05] <Dewey24> angell: did the installation finish?  you should try powering down the machine and booting the new installed
[00:05] <Aikar> i cant use flash anymore... firefox and chrome playing videos will randomly freeze my entire system forcing me to hard power off. i never had this issue before this week. ive tried like 3 diff versions of flash, even the 10.3 native 64bit one
[00:05] <Ziber> lvcreate is telling me that my volume groups arent found... I thought I could just make a name for them?
[00:05] <mickster04> elijah1: not really :p
[00:06] <uRock_> hi Gnea
[00:06] <angell> Dewey24: No the machine didn't finish installing, infact it froze with that error not being able to unmount the cdrom.......
[00:06] <Aikar> any idea of a log file this would likely log to? ive searched and cant find any messages as to what caused the complete system freeze
[00:06] <elijah1> mickster04: Is there way to load a xorg.conf file?
[00:07] <JunglPerv> So I know this isn't really an Ubuntu support questionn but my problem seems to be affecting more than one MSN client.  So far I've tried aMSN and Emesene I have had intermitten results with being able to connect with both of them saying that I am logged in at another location.  Has anyone else had this problem?
[00:07] <Dewey24> angell: have you checked your media(CD)?
[00:07] <Logan_WP> JunglPerv: If you know that it isn't a Ubuntu support question, then why are you asking it in this channel?
[00:07] <uRock_> JunglPerv, no
[00:08] <angell> Dewey24: It is being installed via Unetbootin with the iso on the flash drive, and yes I did the checking and it passed.
[00:08] <Ziber> !lvcreate
[00:08] <Ziber> how can I create a volume group with lvcreate?
[00:08] <JunglPerv> Logan_WP: because its is obviously not client support
[00:09] <uRock_> JunglPerv, seek help through MS
[00:09] <JunglPerv> uRock: why would Microsoft help me with non MS products?
[00:10] <uRock_> because your account obviously has issues
[00:10] <JunglPerv> hrm
[00:10] <uRock_> whenever I log in with one client, the other client gets disconnected
[00:10] <elijah1> JunglPerv: Maybe try #microsoft
[00:10] <elijah1> JunglPerv: or #windows
[00:11] <uRock_> unless you are logged in via the browser
[00:11] <Dewey24> angell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237617
[00:11] <puff> I'm using ubunt u 10.04.2 LTS, amarok is behaving weirdly;  it tries to play a track and then skips to the next track.  Eventually I get a popup saying too many errors, stopping playlist.
[00:11] <shubbar> flash plugin keeps crashing and gives error "The application exe has crashed"
[00:11] <puff> How do I find more info about what's going wrong?
[00:11] <Dewey24> angell: maybe the "use entire cd" workaround will do it
[00:12] <uRock_> puff, have you install restricted extras?
[00:13] <angell> Dewey24: Where is that option? Is it suppose to be anywhere around the options when you boot into it through unetbootin or....
[00:14] <Dewey24> angell: when partitioning the disk I guess
[00:14] <freesoft> hi
[00:15] <fridabandita> iam windows user, but am trying to change over my system to linux.  i have a peer to peer windows system at home, and the office (workgroup, not domain)  i want to get my laptop to run ubuntu, and be able to log onto my workgroup at home or the office.  i have looked at various forums, but they go into a great deal of detail, lost to me.  i am a computer user, not a computer guru, so keep it
[00:15] <fridabandita> simple
[00:15] <angell> Dewey24: It doesn't give me that option, it only shows the usb flash drive when I go from the beginning of the partitioning.
[00:15] <angell> Dewey24: The only time I see the hard drive it self is when I go to try and manually partition the drive itself.
[00:15]  * uRock shakes fists at freenode
[00:16] <puff> fridabandita: I think you will need to explain in more detail what you mean by "a peer to peer iwndows system" and "workgroup, not domain."
[00:17] <puff> fridabandita: I don't know windows, but either this is a windows-specific technology, in which case you're stuck with windows, or it's a more general technology (for example a vpn), in which case you may be able to do what you want.
[00:18] <puff> uRock: Yes, ubuntu-restricted-extras is installe.d
[00:18] <fridabandita> puff: in a MS windows based system with a server, the usual network configurnation is a domwin where the server controls security.  in a peer to peer system, security is taken on by each individual computer, there is no hierarchy.  that is a workgroup.
[00:20] <tomftw> hi guys, i'm installing ubuntu netbook 10.10 with wubi and it's getting stuck at "creating the virtual disks"
[00:20] <paq7512> also most linux distros uses mandatory access control (mac) hence the numbers 0-1000 so on; where windows uses discretionary access control (he who owns)
[00:20] <mead> I need some help making a grub cd to boot off a USB drive. Computer has no bios support to boot from USB.  I made one for this computer over a year ago and it has disapeared
[00:21] <Wulfy> mead your nic support pxe?
[00:21] <puff> fridabandita: Sorry, the only windows/linux geek I know is AFk at the moment.
[00:21] <a_p3rson> tomftw: Wubi is not a reccomended install solution: make a new partition and install it on there
[00:22] <Ziber> How do I make a disk partition 'identified as an existing physical volume'?
[00:23] <Elssha> hi
[00:23] <uRock> hi
[00:23] <tomftw> what's the recommended partition size, a_p3rs0n?
[00:23] <uRock> tomftw, 10 or more gb
[00:24] <Elssha> i was curious if it was possible to set up a timer that would take Ubuntu out of suspend mode at a certain time
[00:24] <mead> not a clue if the nic supports PXE, I would say probably not.  since this is a first generation centrino laptop sold by sony
[00:24] <tomftw> darn, i wanted to dual boot with win7 and i only have a 16gb ssd :/
[00:24] <jrib> tomftw: no windows, not a big deal
[00:24] <uRock> tomftw, it'll work with less, how much room do you have
[00:24] <Elssha> 16gb?
[00:25] <tomftw> like 4 gb
[00:25] <Elssha> what are you running this on
[00:25] <tomftw> a netbook
[00:25] <tomftw> hence i want to install the netbook edition :P
[00:25] <Elssha> ah
[00:25] <uRock> tomftw, it will install, but you won't have much space ton install stuff
[00:25] <Wulfy> mead dont dismiss the pxe :D its not a new tech and should be doable
[00:25] <tomftw> ok thanks for the help guys
[00:25] <ozatomic> I'm having problems with multiple ubuntu machines on a vm accessing datastore via NFS and they also access a share on fstab via nfs. I keep getting hung_task_timeout_secs ?
[00:26] <uRock> tomftw, if you have a spare thumb drive, then Ubuntu can be installed to it
[00:26] <Logan_WP> !usb | tomftw
[00:26] <tomftw> yeah, that's what i'm doing urock
[00:26] <tomftw> i'm gonna boot from the usb
[00:26] <tomftw> and add a partition
[00:26] <uRock> I have a persistant USB 4GB and love it
[00:26] <uRock> I have the one from the Ubuntu store
[00:26] <Corsarius> hello guys, I have a question: do you know why the NMetbeans version in the repos still is 6.8?
[00:26] <mead> well it might have it... but the laptop isn't in my possession right now, gave it to a friend who needs a computer to use the internet for job hunting....
[00:26] <wolfric> is there anywhere i can read further on ubuntu cloud? there doesn't seem to be that much documentation on how it all works when it's up and running. It seems to give a general idea about having a controller and nodes and loading images and a very nice install guide to get you there but it doesn't give that great a few of what the admin page is like or whta you can do or how it all works together
[00:27] <wolfric> i'm going currently but the community page
[00:27] <Elssha> anyone know if a time like i mentioned is even possible?
[00:27] <Elssha> i'n not too great on terminal >_<
[00:27] <uRock> Elssha, not that I know of
[00:27] <Logan_WP> !cloud | wolfric
[00:27] <LjL> Elssha: it might be possible since 1) the BIOS can usually wake up the computer at a given time, 2) there are a couple of tools in Ubuntu that can set the BIOS up like that, at least certain BIOSes
[00:27] <Corsarius> wow
[00:28] <wolfric> ubottu: you'll notice i mentioned i was already going off community and it wasn't sufficient
[00:28] <LjL> Elssha: it's probably not trivial though. another possibility i guess would be using another computer to wake it up from LAN
[00:28] <Elssha> it's not set up to anything though
[00:28] <Elssha> it's a laptop on wireless int
[00:28] <Elssha> and there's no other comps around
[00:28] <LjL> oh, that doesn't help :P
[00:28] <Elssha> yeah
[00:29] <Elssha> studying abroad
[00:29] <wolfric> Logan_WP: that last message was for you
[00:29] <mickster04> Corsarius: wow?
[00:29] <Elssha> so i got one room
[00:29] <Elssha> and the comp keeps me up but if i suspend it my devices don't charge and I'm SOL in the morning
[00:29] <Logan_WP> wolfric: why not join #ubuntu-cloud?
[00:29] <Jason_Ostrowski> Got a question: I installed Ubuntu to dual boot with Windows 7 (Windows was installed first). When it reboots, I see the GRUB loader but if I select Ubuntu it just goes to a blank screen and never loads. I CAN boot into Windows from the grub boot loader. Any ideas? Boot sector issue?
[00:29] <Corsarius> yes, this Ubuntu Enterrise Cloud seems cool
[00:30] <Elssha> so was hoping to set it so that it'd wake up ~5am so that by 7 they'd be charged (more or less)
[00:30] <Corsarius> i thing gonna study it
[00:30] <wolfric> Logan_WP: thanks
[00:30] <Logan_WP> np
[00:30] <uRock> Elssha, by a wall adapter
[00:30] <uRock> *buy
[00:30] <Elssha> jason, did ubuntu ever load? it might be an install problem
[00:30] <Elssha> i'm in PL
[00:30] <Elssha> they don't really do apple here
[00:31] <uRock> PL?
[00:31] <Jason_Ostrowski> Completely installed, asked me to eject the CD and then rebooted but never loads..
[00:31] <Elssha> I don't think the country even has an apple store -_-;
[00:31] <Elssha> poland
[00:31] <uRock> ok
[00:31] <uRock> I would think they would
[00:31] <Elssha> a friend was told to go to germany
[00:31]  * mead notes that he can move to Poland if the apple fan boys get out of control
[00:32] <Elssha> and they tax electronic purchases (like, from ebay)
[00:32] <DocOC> jason_ostrowski, boot to the install cd and use it as a live cd, then see if you have any linux partitions you can mount.
[00:32] <Elssha> yeah mead, there's like no apple stuff here (you *can* get it, but you are left with no accesories and no backup)
[00:33]  * Elssha personally dislikes apple
[00:33] <Elssha> a lot
[00:33] <Jason_Ostrowski> Using gparted?
[00:33] <Corsarius> DocOC: it's doable, Jason you must try it
[00:33] <Jason_Ostrowski> DocOC
[00:33] <Elssha> but the itouch was a b-day present that functions as my camera, voice rec (class) and mobile comp(ish thing)
[00:34] <student> hello
[00:34] <Corsarius> student: hello
[00:34] <mickster04> !ot | Elssha
[00:34] <uRock> Elssha, try t-mobile http://www.iphoneworld.ca/news/2008/03/03/t-mobiles-plan-to-launch-iphone-in-poland/
[00:34] <student> why
[00:34] <euxneks> because
[00:34] <Logan_WP> student: that's a good question
[00:34] <Elssha> they have it already uRock
[00:34] <mickster04> student: need a hand with something?
[00:34] <uRock> why ask why?
[00:34] <mickster04> why not?
[00:34] <student> u guys are cool
[00:35] <euxneks> mickster04: hah was going to say that
[00:35] <DocOC> I wonder if this would work: tether to the itouch, then set the itouch to send some packets to the computer at a certain time, and set the computer to WoL
[00:35] <Elssha> and there *are* places to get stuff
[00:35] <euxneks> student: some say I'm hot
[00:35] <Logan_WP> euxneks: tmi
[00:35] <DocOC> jason_ostrowski, you were saying something to me?
[00:35] <Elssha> but i think the best-buy type store sells iphone headphones for like $35usd
[00:35] <mickster04> ookkaaaaay moving on
[00:35] <Jason_Ostrowski> DocOC - Yes, using Gparted to mount the partition?
[00:35] <Elssha> LiL; so what would i have to do to set up a program like that
[00:36] <Corsarius> ubottu: A question to you: do you know something about repos and versions?
[00:36] <puff> uRock: So, it turns out that amarok needs xine, hence amarok needs kubuntu-restricted-extras, or libxine1-ffmpeg, not ubuntu-restricted-extaras.
[00:36] <Corsarius> sh*t
[00:36] <uRock> !repo | Corsarius
[00:36] <LjL> !info nvram | Elssha probably will involve this program
[00:36] <LjL> !info nvram-wakeup | Elssha probably will involve this program
[00:36] <DocOC> jason_ostrowski, no, just use the mount command, or even just the graphical file browser
[00:36] <Led_Zeppelin> hi
[00:36] <Led_Zeppelin> How can I get audio to work in KDE?
[00:37] <Led_Zeppelin> it was working when I was using GNOME.
[00:37] <uRock> puff, that bytes, i am glad I stay with Pioneer for music
[00:37] <Corsarius> uRock: it's about whi the Netbeans in repo are outdated
[00:37] <Elssha> i'll look into it LjL, thanks ^_^
[00:37] <mead> KDE is more of a Elvis type of graphical enviroment
[00:37] <Elssha> is it in synaptic?
[00:37] <p_res> Led_Zeppelin, KDE uses a different architecture for multimedia.
[00:37] <Led_Zeppelin> p_res, crap. How can I fix it? heh
[00:37] <Jason_Ostrowski> DocOC - Thanks, Last Question - If I am able to mount it, do I then reboot and try to boot into the installed Ubuntu?
[00:38] <uRock> did floodbot really mute ubottu?
[00:38] <uRock> LMAO
[00:39] <p_res> There should be a wiki page somewhere. You might have to Google it unless someone here has it bookmarked.
[00:39] <DocOC> jason_ostrowski, well, it won't fix anything, just tell you if the install progressed to the point of creating a partition and putting some or all of the distribution on it.
[00:39] <uRock> iRabbit, cool name
[00:39] <Elssha> LjL; ummmmm.... i just installed it, but no clue where it went (it's not in my menu's)
[00:39] <mickster04> !who | p_res:
[00:39] <rww> ubottu: no
[00:39] <rww> oops
[00:40] <sonic> im back
[00:40] <rww> uRock: no
[00:40] <sonic> hello
[00:40] <sonic> justin biebe
[00:40] <mickster04> wb sonic
[00:40] <Elssha> anyone know where nvram-wakeup installs? or how to activate it?
[00:40] <sonic> justin beiber
[00:40] <uRock> thanks rww, was looking @ --- FloodBot3 sets mode -q #ubuntu ubottu!*@*
[00:41] <sonic> bye
[00:41] <DocOC> elssha, dpkg -L nvram-wakeup
[00:41] <Elssha> i used synaptic to install it
[00:41] <DocOC> doesn't matter
[00:41] <Elssha> just can't FIND it now that it has
[00:41] <DocOC> all package manager front-ends use and register with dpkg
[00:42] <Elssha> all the other stuff i got through synaptic auto-installed
[00:42] <Elssha> will try it though
[00:42] <DocOC> oh, I love how all my years of debian are completely applicable to ubuntu
[00:43] <DocOC> dpkg -L just tells you all the files installed by the package
[00:43] <Elssha> ah
[00:43] <mickster04> DocOC: that's because the latter is based on the former
[00:43]  * Elssha bio major >_> 
[00:43] <uRock> !pm > Corsarius
[00:43] <Elssha> still no clue how to find the icon that opens the program though
[00:43] <DocOC> mickster04, yep, debian unstable frozen and fixed. A dream for me since I have always run that crazy sid kid
[00:44] <uRock> Elssha, it is probably a cli tool
[00:45] <uRock> Corsarius, I have no clue with the issue you are having.
[00:45] <DocOC> elssha, you type dpkg -L nvram-wakeup in a terminal
[00:45] <Elssha> did that
[00:45] <Elssha> got a list of files
[00:45] <DocOC> elssha, ok, well that list is everything the package installed
[00:45] <Corsarius> uRock: the version in repos are 6.8
[00:45] <uRock> DocOC, is there a front end that needs installing?
[00:45] <DocOC> elssha, you should probably start with whatever it installed in /usr/share/doc
[00:46] <uRock> Corsarius, what is wrong with that version?
[00:46] <Corsarius> uRock: but i need 6.9 in order to install a plugin
[00:46] <uRock> Corsarius, download and install it from their site
[00:46] <DocOC> urock, I never even heard of nvram-wakup until a few minutes ago, I just know how to work dpkg
[00:47] <uRock> DocOC, k
[00:47] <Corsarius> uRock: ok, this could work
[00:47] <uRock> Corsarius, http://netbeans.org/
[00:47] <Corsarius> uRock: thanks!
[00:47] <uRock> welcome
[00:47] <sonic> hi
[00:48] <mickster04> sonic: back so soon?
[00:48] <Corsarius> bye ebrybody
[00:48] <Elssha> okay, was hoping this would have a GUI
[00:48] <Elssha> not really sure how to edit this
[00:48] <sonic> yep
[00:48] <DocOC> looks like there is a front-end, maybe scripts, called shutdown-at-night
[00:49] <Elssha> looking for the wake up part
[00:49] <Elssha> but i guess i'll look into that
[00:49]  * uRock is off to school in a few minutes...
[00:49] <Elssha> cuz the files i see have like 5 configs
[00:49] <DocOC> check the sourceforge page too: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nvram-wakeup
[00:50] <foivos_> hello
[00:50] <foivos_> can I ask a question?
[00:51] <Datz> does anyone know if when program "top" updates, it is a snapshot, or an average?
[00:51] <DocOC> no matter how much they make the graphical interfaces for dpkg/apt nice and useful, nothing can replace dpkg/apt-cache/grep
[00:51] <sonic> hello
[00:51] <DocOC> datz, it updates once a second by default, iirc
[00:51] <KGBWolf> does crond start automatically on boot?
[00:52] <psusi> foivos_, you just did.  now if you want to ask a question that isn't a waste of time, just ask that question instead of asking if it might be ok if you maybe propose to ask a question
[00:52] <DocOC> kgbwolf, if it is working correctly, yes
[00:52] <Datz> DocOC: yes, but is the update a average of activity from second to second, or a snapshot
[00:52] <foivos_> psusi, ok...I have Ububtu...and the question is....Google Earth?
[00:52] <DocOC> apt-cache search google|grep earth
[00:53] <foivos_> I copy paste that into Terminal?
[00:53] <DocOC> yes sir
[00:53] <psusi> foivos_, that is a subject, not a question.
[00:53] <rww> aptitude search ~ngoogle~nearth ;P
[00:53] <beata|lemur> I'm trying to figure out where it is defined that <Mod4>m brings up the mail/chat menu instead of the keyboard shortcut I assigned.
[00:53] <DocOC> ok, well I'm showing my age :)
[00:53] <foivos_> thanks dudes and dudenesses
[00:55] <DocOC> I remember when aptitude was gui nubness :)
[00:55] <n2diy> ok, I have a fresh virgin install of 10.10 on my test box. Now I want to set it up like this box, so how do I get my synaptic marks over to it? I can ping the box, but grsync and gftp are refused connections, along with my ssh attempts?
[00:55] <foivos_> Doc...heres the outcome
[00:55] <foivos_> utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth
[00:55] <DocOC> (yes, back then curses was gui nubness :)
[00:55] <Elssha> i think i got it, just not sure how the date is coded
[00:55] <DocOC> foivos_, yes, so it looks like you can get google
[00:55] <DocOC> earth
[00:56] <foivos_> I am glad
[00:56] <DocOC> you just need to use that package to build the package, then install it.
[00:56] <DocOC> I'm curious, going to try it myself :)
[00:56] <Elssha> it looks like they want me to run it in terminal
[00:57] <Elssha> i just need to figure out what the format for the date is -_-;
[00:57] <foivos_> Doc, so what do I do...I type "use package google earth"?
[00:57] <DocOC> elssha, probably has a man page which will tell you how to format it.
[00:57] <EricInBNE> is there a bash-completion package for git in ubuntu?
[00:57] <simbol> hello
[00:57] <foivos_> "package google earth, if you please"   ?
[00:58] <wwmwwm> hello
[00:58] <DocOC> foivos_, aptitude install googleearth-package
[00:58] <Logan_WP> !sq | simbol
[00:58] <Logan_WP> oops
[00:58] <DocOC> then do man make-googleearth-package
[00:58] <DocOC> which I am doing right now :)
[00:59] <sonic> hi
[00:59] <mneptok> EricInBNE: http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git?a=blob;f=contrib/completion/git-completion.bash;h=4ea727b14303e397117067993dbda446ed154ea1;hb=HEAD
[00:59] <DocOC> aha, looks like you will need to download the googleearth linux installer from google, then that package will build a .deb that you can use dpkg to install it.
[00:59] <Elssha> found it
[01:00] <DocOC> oh, wait, it will download it for you. Nice
[01:00] <foivos_> jesus
[01:00] <sheenz> friends just looking for some basic help
[01:00] <Elssha> bah!
[01:00] <KGBWolf> do i need to login for crontab to work?
[01:00] <Elssha> all that and my mainboard is not supported
[01:00] <edwardteach> !info googleearth | DocOC
[01:01] <DocOC> kgbwolf, crontab should run under the cron user at boot.
[01:01] <edwardteach> !googleearth | DocOC
[01:01] <DocOC> !infogoogleearth-package
[01:01] <KGBWolf> what if the user never logs in
[01:01] <KGBWolf> ?
[01:01] <DocOC> !info googleearth-package
[01:01] <Elssha> alright
[01:01] <Elssha> night all
[01:01] <Elssha> guess i'll have to stick to the manual way for now >_<
[01:01] <mneptok> KGBWolf: cron scripts get run regardless of whether the user is logged in
[01:02] <KGBWolf> thanks
[01:02] <mneptok> s/scripts/jobs/
[01:02] <Elssha> thanks for the help though ^_^
[01:03] <sheenz> I was looking for some help/support is this the right place? Installed ubuntu for the first time but I am unable to see any icons on the top of my screen or on the left hand side.. though when I over the mouse it seems like icons are there
[01:03] <computer_> are there any decent media players for ubuntu now a days
[01:04] <histo> computer_: vlc
[01:04] <xangua> computer_: yes
[01:04] <computer_> Ohhh nice
[01:04] <computer_> thanks histo, xangua :)
[01:04] <xangua> sheenz: videocard drivers installed¿
[01:07] <sheenz> no reply
[01:08] <beata|lemur> Trouble with video drivers over here, but I suspect I'm one of the only people left who still likes to work on the console.
[01:09] <sheenz> xangue I was running windows xp before on that computer
[01:09] <edwardteach> sheenz,  xangua  asked you if your video drivers are installed on ubuntu?
[01:09] <aeon-ltd> beata|lemur: nope, i like console/terminal too, but about your problem more details please (tell the channle not me)
[01:09] <elkng> I have my eth0 renamed: "udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1", how to not have this happen ?
[01:10] <sonic> h
[01:10] <sheenz> how am supposed to fix the video driver
[01:10] <beata|lemur> Oh not a big problem. Just that nouveau isn't stable yet (hard locks my video card) and the proprietary drivers don't get along with the framebuffer.
[01:10] <asarch> How do you remove the 'n character left to the "Name" field? http://imgur.com/PXCEq
[01:11] <beata|lemur> Plus, I have no idea how to make the framebuffer do dualhead.
[01:11] <sheenz> totally new here and unfamiliar with ubuntu
[01:12] <sonic> hi people im watching a new episode of dragon ball z kai
[01:12] <mickster04>  !ot | sonic
[01:13] <mickster04> asarch: what is that?
[01:13] <sonic> wat it wat
[01:13] <asarch> The 'n character
[01:13] <mickster04> sonic: take your off topic chat else where
[01:13] <asarch> I don't even know how it get there
[01:13] <mickster04> asarch: no i know what an n character is, what is the program?
[01:14] <BiPolah> When running rdesktop from the command line, is there any way to expand the window size?
[01:14] <asarch>  If I press that char the sorting get reverses (and it changes from 'n to ,n)
[01:14] <sheenz> am connected to net so it offered me to do system test.. suggested to install some software its doing that now... seems like the icons are there but they dont show on the top of my screen and on left side once you hover with mouse then it displays like sounds calender...
[01:14] <asarch> Midnight Commander
[01:14] <sonic> i cant there is no other chat i like
[01:14] <mickster04> sonic: yes you can or you'll get kicked
[01:14] <sonic> ok..................................
[01:14] <sonic> bye......................................................................................................................
[01:15] <mickster04> asarch: and they don't have a help foirum or something? that probably isn't an ubuntu thing?
[01:15] <asarch> Well, #mc is a dead channel actually
[01:15] <mickster04> asarch: not an ubuntu problem
[01:15] <asarch> Does your mc have the same char?
[01:15] <mickster04> asarch: why not just nautilus?
[01:16] <mickster04> asarch: i don't use m\c
[01:16] <sonic> wait a minute why do we got to talk about tech stuff
[01:16] <mickster04> sonic this is a help channel thats why
[01:16] <rww> sonic: because this is an Ubuntu support channel. If you want to be offtopic, go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:16] <student_> ok
[01:16] <sheenz> am looking for help and not getting much :)
[01:16] <asarch> I use mc an IDE
[01:16] <twitch> !guidelines | sonic
[01:17] <mickster04> sheenz: that's because no one can help you
[01:17] <mickster04> sheenz: tell us more about your set up, which ubuntu what pc what graphics card etc
[01:18] <sheenz> :mickster04 I thought it was a help channel
[01:18] <sonic> guy enough with tech stuff and have fun
[01:18] <mickster04> sheenz: it is
[01:18] <sonic> ill be back
[01:18] <mickster04> sheenz: but a volunteers one, you can pay for official ubuntusuppoort if you want to
[01:18] <mickster04> sonic: yep
[01:18] <sheenz> dell inspiron 8600
[01:18] <syn-ack> Good evening, folks
[01:18] <AndrewD13> hello
[01:18] <mead> hold on... you can PAY for ubuntu support?
[01:19] <syn-ack> mead, Sure can
[01:19] <Teddy__> when building an installer iso does any one know what oem-config tasks option does? it's not documented anywhere :(
[01:19] <ProfessorBacon> enterprise support
[01:19] <syn-ack> mead, Canonical is good like that
[01:19] <mead> how much is it?
[01:19] <syn-ack> Teddy__, it allows one to install the system without creating any user accounts
[01:19] <mickster04> !details | sheenz
[01:19] <mickster04> also !ask
[01:20] <sacarlson>  mead: I'm for sale but expensive
[01:20] <syn-ack> Teddy__, also, it installs a first-run script so the end user can create one when it's first booted.
[01:20] <Teddy__> syn-ack: great thank you :)
[01:20] <syn-ack> Teddy__, as well as other stuff and you're welcome.
[01:20] <Teddy__> so I'm totally safe to remove it as I've already created users in my preseed
[01:20] <Teddy__> :)
[01:20] <mead> no how much is support from Canonical?
[01:20] <syn-ack> mead, you'd have to call them and find out. That's out of the scope of this channel.
[01:21] <Teddy__> mead: pretty affordable iirc
[01:21] <xangua> mead: canonical.com you can see there
[01:21] <Teddy__> anyway, later guys :0
[01:21] <beata|lemur> Admittedly sad that Hardy never got a fix for the xserver/pixbuf/browser memory leaks, but I found out about gnome-applet-globalmenu yesterday.
[01:21] <Jordan_U> mead: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=715
[01:21] <sonic> im back this is the only chat that has alot of people
[01:21] <Accelerator> Why are packages listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/cl-sdl But aptitude returns it cannot find them?
[01:21] <coldfire> heh
[01:22] <xangua> Accelerator: are you using hardy¿
[01:22] <Accelerator> xangua, Actually isn't my system, but I think he is. The package is listed for all of them though, under the same name.
[01:23] <sheenz> ok am totally new no idea what am doing.. have a dell inspiron 8600 notebook was running xp no problems- thought of playing around and learning about ubuntu so I read about it made a usb boot ubuntu v10.10 nebook (hope thats not the issue netbook version using on notebook)
[01:23] <sonic> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:23] <sonic> im back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:23] <Accelerator> sonic, I think your "o" key is broken
[01:23] <Accelerator> So is your "!"
[01:23] <xangua> sonic: stop please
[01:24] <sonic> okay but im bod
[01:24] <rww> sonic: Stop being disruptive. It got you banned from #debian on OFTC, and the same is likely to happen here.
[01:24] <Accelerator> Er, sorry, this is maverick.
[01:24] <rww> sonic: You've been told that this is an Ubuntu support channel, and given links to our guidelines. Please start following them.
[01:24] <sonic> this is the only chat that has alot of people
[01:24] <Accelerator> In that case, how do I go about installing cl-sdl on maverick?
[01:24] <Guest31603> would someone mine explaining to me how irc works? -- IE the channel list { do you find a server and then that server gives u a list ?}
[01:25] <sonic> wait a minute u banned me rww?
[01:25] <Guest31603> if so how do u get a server list
[01:25] <rww> sonic: No.
[01:25] <sheenz> from Xp I ran the installation of ubuntu reboot everthing seems to be working only I cant see the icon on top and left hand side.. but if I hover over them they display the options like if I over the right top and hover over I can get calender, ..
[01:25] <shentino> sonic:  You are off topic here :P
[01:25] <sonic> im srry ill stop
[01:25] <Ziber> Using lvcreate and vgcreate, how come they dont show up in /dev?
[01:26] <sacarlson> mead: I found the price it's 88 pounds per year?  http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=715
[01:26] <sheenz> :mickster04 ?
[01:26] <sonic> so i need help how can i get wireless internet onhere
[01:26] <sonic> so i need help how can i get wireless internet on here
[01:27] <s5fs> I have a usb drive (fat32) that has some bad blocks. What utility should I use to fix this?
[01:27] <sonic> so i need help how can i get wireless internet on here
[01:27] <s5fs> sonic: Laptop or a desktop?
[01:27] <syn-ack> s5fs, I would just throw it away
[01:27] <SpeedrunnerG55> is there an interface i could get for my lego nxt
[01:27] <sonic> laptop eeepc
[01:27] <Accelerator> Is there a "cl-dsl" package for Maverick?
[01:28] <Accelerator> sdl*
[01:28] <Accelerator> Sorry.
[01:28] <Logan_WP> !info cl-sdl
[01:28] <Jordan_U> s5fs: I don't recommend trusting flash drives with known bad blocks. Most I have encountered don't even do CRC checks so you're likely to get silent data corruption.
[01:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> for ubuntu
[01:28] <s5fs> syn-ack: It's a spinning disk, not flash drive.
[01:28] <Accelerator> Hm. Well that's lovely.
[01:28] <Accelerator> It was supported before.
[01:28] <sonic> laptop eeepc
[01:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> ?
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[01:29] <Logan_WP> !repeat | sonic
[01:29] <sonic> i cant get internet
[01:29] <sacarlson> s5fs: I guess when you format like with ext3 or ext4 or other it will check and put bad blocks off of the fat table, but if it's failing I'm not sure I would trust it,  maybe partition around the bad blocks?
[01:29] <edbian> sonic, wired or wireless?
[01:29] <syn-ack> s5fs, ah, then badblock it
[01:29] <sonic> wireless
[01:29] <CoNFuS3D> hi, when I do "sudo usermod -a -G audio,pulse-access,pulse-rt" it says that the group "audio,pulse-access,pulse-rt" does not exist, any ideas?
[01:29] <s5fs> syn-ack: I thought badblock only detected bad blocks, not actually fixes them.
[01:29] <edbian> sonic, can you pastebin the output of lspci -k for me?
[01:30] <syn-ack> s5fs, it'll flag them too
[01:30] <sonic> SURE
[01:30] <rww> !pastebin
[01:30] <edbian> sonic, DON'T YELL :)
[01:30] <sacarlson> s5fs: or is it just say bad superblock?
[01:30] <SpeedrunnerG55> help?
[01:30] <Ziber> Using lvcreate, they should show up in /dev, right?
[01:30] <Accelerator> !info libsdl-ttf2.0-0
[01:30] <Accelerator> See, I don't get that.
[01:30] <Xeon06> Hey folks. Can someone tell me why when I try to write a forward slash in nano, it asks me to quit and if I want to save the modified buffer?
[01:30] <edwardteach> sheenz,  from what i have read at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1597370 you need to log out log back in with the gnome desktop and download the propitiatory drivers
[01:31] <sonic> im on vpn connction
[01:31] <Accelerator> It has libsdl-ttf2.0-0, but not libsdl itself.
[01:31] <Accelerator> Nor cd-sdl
[01:31] <edbian> sonic, does wired work?
[01:31] <sheenz> cheers
[01:31] <beata|lemur> The envelope icon in the indicator panel, has the chat and email stuff in it. What is it called?
[01:31] <CoNFuS3D> anyone?
[01:31] <neil_d> I am trying to configure Thunderbird... on my local computer running 10.10 ... the 'Edit->Preferences' includes a 'Confid editor' button.... on the remote running 10.04 (same version of thunderbird 3.1.7) ... the same preferences dialog doesn't have the 'Config editor' button.... why?  I need it!
[01:32] <sonic> NO :(
[01:32] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, try putting spaces
[01:32] <s5fs> sacarlson: I was deleting some data from it earlier when apparently it ran across some bad blocks and remounted the disk ro.
[01:32] <edbian> sonic, I've never set up a VPN
[01:32] <sonic> i have a eeepc laptop
[01:33] <sheenz> ok now computer is frozen is there thing like alt+ctrl+del
[01:33] <CoNFuS3D> "user pulse-rt does not exist"
[01:33] <s5fs> sacarlson: I found a bunch of "FAT: Directory bread(block 114461) failed" messages in syslog so I figured I'd ask if there was a simple way to detect and fix bad blocks w/o just reformatting.
[01:33] <edbian> sonic, What happens when you plug in the wire and use the network applet to try to connect?
[01:33] <Ziber> !lvcreate
[01:33] <ghost__> Anyone have this problem when you logon ubuntu it ask for password 2 freaking times!!!!
[01:33] <SpeedrunnerG55> ?
[01:34] <SpeedrunnerG55> help
[01:34] <s5fs> ghost_: Does the second prompt say something about your keyring?
[01:34] <sonic> i cant go on browser
[01:34] <ghost__> s5fs yes
[01:34] <s5fs> ghost_: yeah man, I had the same problem on 10.10. Lemme find it in the menus, 1sec.
[01:35] <edwardteach> sheenz,  alt+ctrl+del should work
[01:35] <n2diy> ok, I have a fresh virgin install of 10.10 on my test box. Now I want to set it up like this box, so how do I get my synaptic marks over to it? I can ping the box, but grsync and gftp are refused connections, along with my ssh attempts?
[01:35] <ghost__> thanks s5fs . It really drives me off the wall
[01:35] <edbian> sonic, but you can connect to the network?  I'm confused
[01:35] <jrib> !clone | n2diy
[01:35] <sonic> me to
[01:35] <s5fs> ghost_: For sure! Peep this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1615575
[01:35] <SpeedrunnerG55> no one ever goes to #fun
[01:36] <sheenz> : edwardteach cd rom works but a+c+del nope
[01:36] <sonic> i will go onto fun
[01:36] <n2diy> jrib, but the box is refusing to connect.
[01:36] <beata|lemur> n2diy: openssh-server appears to not get installed by default.
[01:36] <foivos_> HAS ANYONE ever installed google earth on Ubuntu????
[01:37] <n2diy> beata|lemur, exactly.
[01:37] <jrib> n2diy: yes, you need to install openssh-server if you want to ssh in
[01:37] <sonic> im on fun
[01:37] <DocOC> wow, why did the installer for the 64-bit version of google earth install a 32-bin binary?
[01:37] <jrib> !googleearth | foivos_
[01:37] <edwardteach> sheenz,  power button ! not sure what else to say..
[01:37] <sonic> im on the fun channel
[01:37] <CoNFuS3D> I put the spaces, still doesn't work....
[01:38] <jrib> sonic: you've been asked several times to stay on-topic (ubuntu support).  If you cannot do that, please leave
[01:38] <iszak> Is there a plugin for "aero snap" even if it's from a ppa?
[01:38] <Roxyhart0> hi There, I im doing backup with rsync but it stop to work in the middle apparently because long size files, somebody know how to solve or run rsync to copy big files?
[01:38] <jrib> iszak: you can do it in compiz, ask #compiz
[01:38] <sheenz> just did that .. by the way how you make it so when you type my name it beeps or is it normal
[01:38] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, Hang on, I'm reading the man page (which is what you should be doing)
[01:38] <DocOC> jrib, seems google's package is messed up.
[01:38] <iszak> jrib, I know you can do it with a bunch of commands BUT I don't want to restrict dragging from desktops, will ask there.
[01:39] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, what are you actually trying to do?
[01:39] <sonic> someone ask to go on the fun channel  and i did
[01:39] <CoNFuS3D> this is what I am trying to do: http://rightfootin.blogspot.com/2009/05/fixing-pulseaudio-stutters-pauses.html
[01:39] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, Was it the second command there that was giving you problems?
[01:40] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[01:40] <Xeon06>  Does anyone know why nano would treat a forward slash (/) as an escape character?
[01:40] <SpeedrunnerG55> eh?
[01:40] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, type it for me please?  I wanna see what you're writing. Also, what error does it give you?
[01:40] <Jordan_U> Xeon06: In what context? nano is a text editor, it doesn't have escape characters.
[01:41] <michael138> how do i do a remove program
[01:41] <student_> jordan?
[01:41] <Xeon06> Jordan_U: It tries to close nano if I have made changes, and closes it otherwise
[01:41] <CoNFuS3D> sudo usermod -a -G audio,pulse-access,pulse-rt then usermod: user 'audio,pulse-access,pulse-rt' does not exist
[01:41] <jrib> michael138: you can use synaptic for example
[01:41] <edbian> michael138, sudo apt-get remove program name
[01:41] <Jordan_U> student_: Yes?
[01:42] <michael138> that will completly remove it
[01:42] <edwardteach> sheenz,  no beeping is not normal.. which graphics card have you ?
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Xeon06: Odd.
[01:42] <student_> why u kicked me
[01:42] <pyroscope> CoNFuS3D: usermod wants a login name, see the man page
[01:42] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, the -a option is missing the username I believe.  try this: sudo usermod -a <you> -G audo,pulse,...
[01:42] <CoNFuS3D> ok, I will try, thanks
[01:42] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, let me know what happens
[01:43] <CoNFuS3D> same error... usermod: user 'audio,pulse-access,pulse-rt' does not exist
[01:43] <ghost__> When i logoff there this program not working and its unknown is there any way i can force it to logoff or shutdown with out knowing
[01:43] <jrib> edbian, CoNFuS3D: login should go at the end
[01:43] <Jordan_U> student_: You were told many times that this channel was for technical support discussion only. You continued to make offtopic comments. Next time it will be a ban.
[01:44] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, put your username at the end of the command
[01:44] <pyroscope> sudo usermod -a -G audio,pulse-access,pulse-rt $LOGNAME
[01:44] <edbian> jrib, thanks
[01:44] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, what pyroscope said
[01:44] <daniel__> i need some help
[01:44] <CoNFuS3D> same error again :(
[01:44] <edbian> daniel__, with what
[01:44] <CoNFuS3D> usermod: group 'pulse-rt' does not exist
[01:45] <Logan_WP> !needhelp | daniel__
[01:45] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, (that's not the same error) just add that group
[01:45] <daniel__> i can not get turbotax to install
[01:45] <edbian> daniel__, in wine?
[01:45] <daniel__> it will not even read
[01:45] <edbian> daniel__, Are you using wine?  You cannot install windows software in linux
[01:45] <ghost__> When i logoff there this program not working and its unknown is there any way i can force it to logoff or shutdown with out knowing?
[01:46] <syn-ack> daniel that's because linux != linux
[01:46] <daniel__> i am using wine but
[01:46] <edwardteach> sheenz,  you should also ask your main question again as there are more experienced people here now !
[01:46] <edbian> syn-ack, what?
[01:46] <CoNFuS3D> oh it worked!
[01:46] <CoNFuS3D> thanks :)
[01:46] <edbian> my ears are burning
[01:46] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, no problem
[01:46] <syn-ack> hahaha
[01:46] <ghost__> a program is still running but i want shut down anyway
[01:46] <syn-ack> I see what I did, thanks for the catch, edbian
[01:47] <daniel__> i can not get the the cdrom to load
[01:47] <edbian> ghost__, sudo shutdown -h now (and it will shutdown)
[01:47] <edbian> syn-ack, :)
 what about logoff?
[01:47] <edbian> daniel__, If you're using wine you should ask in #winehq
[01:47] <sheenz> Radeon 9600 pro
[01:47] <DocOC> syn-ack, I thank what you meant is Gnu's Not Unix
[01:47] <edbian> ghost__, what program is it?  (list them all with ps -e)
[01:47] <syn-ack> DocOS Nah, I'm pretty sure I meant Windows is not Linux
[01:47] <sheenz> :edwardteach Radeon 9600 pro
[01:47] <ghost__> edbian it doesn't say its just say unknown
[01:48] <edbian> ghost__, use ps -e to list them all.  use top to get a better idea.  use gnome-system-monitor to get a graphical better idea
[01:49] <edbian> ghost__, once you can get the process name that's stuck you can get the pid and run 'kill <pid>' which can end the process for you
[01:49] <ghost__> roger
[01:49] <ghost__> thanks
[01:49] <ghost__> i'm going try
[01:49] <edbian> ghost__, for for it :)
[01:50] <daniel__> is anyone in the phoenix area i really could use help in person
[01:51] <naruto> hello
[01:51] <edbian> naruto, whatup
[01:51] <Jordan_U> !lug | daniel__
[01:51] <daniel__> thanks
[01:51] <Logan_WP> !colloquialism | edbian
[01:52] <naruto> nothing much
[01:52] <naruto> eating ramen
[01:52] <sheenz> msg edwardteach
[01:52] <Logan_WP> !pm | sheenz
[01:52] <naruto> was there a person named sonic in here
[01:53] <chills518> anyone know why Synaptic Package Manager doesn't work the first 1 or 2 times I click it?  usually on the 2nd or 3rd try I finally get the password prompt and it works..
[01:53] <naruto> was there a person named sonic in here
[01:53] <edbian> naruto, he was
[01:53] <aeon-ltd> chills518: lag?
[01:53] <sheenz> !pm | edwardteach
[01:53] <sheenz> pm | edwardteach
[01:53] <edbian> chills518, run it in the terminal and see if you get errors
[01:53] <edwardteach> sheenz, please ask your main  question again you will get more help ?
[01:54] <naruto> thats my friend he wants u guy to join the #fun channel
[01:54] <naruto> sonic is my friend he wants u guy to join the #fun channel
[01:55] <Logan_WP> naruto: Go away.  Now.
[01:55] <sheenz> lol you know now it hangs on boot up at ubuntu screen just before the screen you get prompt for password
[01:55] <shane4ubuntu> ok, using kubuntu what is a simple gui way of shrinking picutres sizes?
[01:55] <elijah1> What is the command to make a new file in CLI?
[01:55] <Logan_WP> !kubuntu | shane4ubuntu
[01:55] <chills518> edbian: worked fine with no errors when I just did it from terminal...  when I use menu I get a task stating "Starting Administrative Application" and after about 10 seconds it closes..
[01:55] <aeon-ltd> elijah1: touch
[01:55] <edbian> elijah1, touch filename.txt
[01:55] <pyroscope> shane4ubuntu: gimp
[01:55] <sacarlson> !spam | naruto
[01:55] <BunnyFooFoo> Boooooooooom!
[01:55] <edbian> chills518, try this: gksudo synaptic   in the term
[01:55] <naruto> WHAT
[01:55] <naruto> dont spam me
[01:56] <maco> pyroscope: why install extra software when the included photo viewer (gwenview) can do that just fine?
[01:56] <chills518> edbian:  worked... opened right up with no errors
[01:56] <elijah1> aeon-ltd: and edbian - Thanks!
[01:56] <edbian> chills518, odd  I'm not sure then
[01:56] <naruto> so wat u guys do in this channel
[01:56] <pyroscope> maco: because i never use that, and do my scaling with iomagemagick anyway ;)
[01:56] <edbian> elijah1, good :)
[01:56] <Logan_WP> !ot | naruto
[01:56] <edbian> naruto, we help people with Ubuntu
[01:57] <naruto> cool
[01:57] <sheenz> help required: fresh installation of ubuntu 10.10 on laptop dell inspiron 8600 with dual boot xp and ubuntu
[01:57] <sheenz> problem I was looking for some help/support is this the right place? Installed ubuntu for the first time but I am unable to see any icons on the top of my screen or on the left hand side.. though when I over the mouse it seems like icons are there
[01:57] <JerrysKid> How do I set a hot key to activate screen saver?
[01:57] <chills518> edbian:  kk.. thanks for trying... :)
[01:57] <edbian> sheenz, this is the right place.
[01:58] <edbian> chills518, yep :)  (that's just a bug in Ubuntu sounds like)
[01:58] <pyroscope> JerrysKid: ctrl alt L
[01:58] <[thor]> JerrysKid: CTRL-ALT-L
[01:58] <sacarlson> sheenz: maybe the panel is set to hide,  try right click on the panel and see if a botton hide is checked
[01:58] <shooood> to uninstall a program what is the command line ????
[01:58] <edbian> pyroscope, [thor] obviously not what he was asking
[01:58] <Logan_WP> !uninstall | shooood
[01:58] <edbian> shooood, sudo apt-get purge package
[01:58] <naruto> and how old all u ppl
[01:59] <edbian> naruto, that's off topic
[01:59] <The_Pharoah> ill tell you when your older
[01:59] <ProfessorBacon> heh
[01:59] <[thor]> edbian: how do you figure?
[01:59] <naruto> hwat toic
[01:59] <edbian> JerrysKid, system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts (change the lock screen one)
[01:59] <CoNFuS3D> ok, so, I have done all that, when it comes to the last command, it tells me that no such process exists, then it says that the daemon failed to start...
[01:59] <JerrysKid> My minimize bar and top menu bar is completely gone.  How do I get them to reappear.  Every window is missing the minimize, maximize, and close button.
[02:00] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, link me the article again
[02:00] <CoNFuS3D> http://rightfootin.blogspot.com/2009/05/fixing-pulseaudio-stutters-pauses.html
[02:00] <edbian> JerrysKid, do you have a terminal?
[02:00] <JerrysKid> Yes
[02:00] <JerrysKid> I do
[02:00] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, sudo apt-get install pulesaudio  then do the last command
[02:00] <sheenz> by the way will it make a different installing ubuntu netbook on a Laptop? can be the cause of my issue
[02:00] <edbian> JerrysKid, metacity --replace&    (i'm guessing)
[02:01] <CoNFuS3D> "pulseaudio is already the newest version"
[02:01] <JerrysKid> edbian, Thanks!
[02:01] <edbian> sheenz, that shouldn't matter
[02:01] <silverlightning> hi
[02:01] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, what's the error
[02:01] <jonathan> JerrysKid, were you trying to do compiz fusion?
[02:01] <edbian> JerrysKid, no problem
[02:01] <silverlightning> I reinstalled ubuntu all over
[02:01] <CoNFuS3D> E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[02:01] <CoNFuS3D> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[02:01] <AegisX> Hi guys; I'm looking to use a separate drive as my home folder. Is there anyway to point the home folder subfolders to counterparts on the separate drive?
[02:02] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, can you just sudo service pulseaudio start    ?
[02:02] <JerrysKid> jonathan, I am already running a sweetly setup compiz setup with no problem.  The window manager bar was gone.  The command edbian just gave me worked.  Thanks guys
[02:02] <sheenz> ok new problem the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present
[02:02] <jrib> AegisX: sure, use a symbolic link
[02:02] <AegisX> jrib: Ah; and then delete the folders in the home drive?
[02:02] <JerrysKid> jonathan, Wait.
[02:02] <JerrysKid> Compiz stopped working
[02:02] <CoNFuS3D>  * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions
[02:02] <JerrysKid> Zomg
[02:02] <jrib> AegisX: yes
[02:02] <edbian> JerrysKid, yeah but compiz is not running.  Do this: compiz --replace&  to get compiz back
[02:02] <jonathan> you switched wm
[02:02] <jrib> AegisX: well I guess you would have to delete first :P
[02:03] <edbian> JerrysKid, no worries :)
[02:03] <AegisX> jrib: Thanks, that's a pretty functional way of doing it haha.
[02:03] <DocOC> jrib, not sure that's what he wants. He probably wants to cp -Rp /home to the new drive, then change the fstab to reflect that filesystem as /home
[02:03] <JerrysKid> Thanks
[02:03] <AegisX> jrib: So I guess the command would be "ln -s <blah>" right?
[02:03] <sheenz> seems like bios :)
[02:03] <rany27> I keep seeing firefox-bin when running ''top'' even though I shut down firefox.
[02:03] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, just do pulseaudio   in the term
[02:03] <jonathan> JerrysKid, let me know if you have the no window boarder problem again
[02:03] <edbian> rany27, kill it dog.  It's a run-away process
[02:03] <CoNFuS3D> what do you mean?
[02:03] <jonathan> make sure you have window decorations checked
[02:04] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, pulseaudio     the command.  in a terminal
[02:04] <AegisX> Doc0C: That sounds interesting; could you explain further?
[02:04] <jrib> AegisX: do you just want to move your current home to a new partition? When I read your question, I thought you knew how to do that but now wanted to have a couple of directories under your HOME still point to the original drive.  Can you explain what you want to do?
[02:04] <CoNFuS3D> E: module.c: Failed to open module "module-hal-detect": file not found
[02:04] <CoNFuS3D> E: main.c: Module load failed.
[02:04] <CoNFuS3D> E: main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
[02:04] <rany27> edbian: What do you mean by run-away process?
[02:04] <AegisX> jrib: Basically what I want to do is to have a documents and music folder on a separate hard drive that is also accessible by my Windows partition.
[02:05] <edbian> rany27, It's running but you told it to quit (by closing firefox gui)  just kill it
[02:05] <AegisX> jrib: That partition is NTFS
[02:05] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, sudo apt-get install module-hal-detect
[02:05] <jrib> AegisX: then just do it with symlinks
[02:05] <DocOC> jrib, my mistake, sounds more like he wants what you said.
[02:05] <boota2> AegisX: what's the problem?
[02:05] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, I'm guessing now btw
[02:05] <edwardteach> sheenz, what was it you downloaded ? when you booted into it..
[02:05] <CoNFuS3D> unable to locate :(
[02:05] <AegisX> boota2: I think jrib just answered my question hehe. Thanks, anyway.
[02:05] <AegisX> jrib: Thanks again, jrib
[02:06] <jrib> AegisX: the syntax is: ln -s TARGET NAME
[02:06] <edbian> CoNFuS3D, I'm at a loss bud :(
[02:06] <rany27> edbian: So do I have to ''kill'' it manualy everytime I shut firefox down?
[02:06] <sheenz> usb
[02:06] <CoNFuS3D> dang :(
[02:06] <CoNFuS3D> thanks anyways :)
[02:06] <jrib> DocOC: no problem, I wasn't too sure either
[02:06] <AegisX> jrib: Roger; thanks
[02:06] <sheenz> it did work few times but after this third or forth reboot its stuck
[02:06] <silverlightning> hi
[02:06] <edbian> rany27, no, typically when you kill firefox it should die.  For some reason this time it didn't.
[02:06] <edbian> rany27, It's a fluke
[02:07] <DocOC> jrib, lol, I love to help people, but this channel moves so fast, it's sometimes hard to get the answer out before the question is 100 lines back up my scroll-buffer
[02:07] <sheenz> is there any command ?
[02:07] <daniel__> why would upgrading have an effect on my cdrom
[02:08] <rany27> edbian: I also have this with rythmbox lately. Are you sure it is a fluke? Can't it be something more serious?
[02:08] <jrib> DocOC: rare for me not to /lastlog any question that isn't answered with a factoid
[02:08] <JerrysKid> What can I type in terminal to tell me how much physical ram i have installed?
[02:08] <elhadi39> saluttttttttt  a toussssss
[02:08] <jrib> JerrysKid: free -m
[02:09] <elhadi39> hi
[02:09] <edbian> rany27, It's just general bugs in the software.  I can't say what exactly is causing it.  If you can re-create the problem easily then you should make a bug report.
[02:09] <edbian> JerrysKid, free -m
[02:10] <rany27> edbian: Thank you very much.
[02:10] <edbian> rany27, no prob
[02:10] <edbian> DocOC, it just takes practice
[02:10] <edwardteach> sheenz, did it work when you tried it from the usb ?
[02:11] <JeffCBR> Is there an irc.ubuntu.com?
[02:11] <silverlightning> do you know if easy iso works with ubuntu?
[02:11] <sheenz> it was working but after reboot it not any more
[02:11] <edwardteach> sheenz, run off the usb !
[02:11] <sheenz> from bios?
[02:11] <edwardteach> sheenz, as a live disk?
[02:11] <sheenz> or there is a way
[02:12] <AegisX> One more question, actually; when I create the soft link, how do I change the permissions? I require root to do so, but have no idea how to access root from the file manager window...
[02:12] <jrib> JeffCBR: irc.ubuntu.com just points to freenode
[02:12] <sheenz> you mean from windows
[02:12] <JerrysKid> My system is bogged down hard.  Can someone take a look at my top on pastebin?  http://pastebin.com/GgtqycDY
[02:12] <sheenz> option 1 demo
[02:12] <petanilinux> !piing
[02:12] <petanilinux> !ping
[02:12] <edwardteach> sheenz, have you used wubi?
[02:13] <edbian> AegisX, you can open a nautilus window as root using gksudo nautilus .  (but don't do it unless you have to).  To change the file cli use sudo chmod XYZ filename.
[02:13] <sheenz> wubi?? not familiar
[02:13] <AegisX> edbian: Thanks for that, I'll give it a shot
[02:13] <edbian> AegisX, no problem
[02:13] <Datz> !wubi | sheenz
[02:14] <silverlightning> how do you make a partition in ubuntu, for a dual install
[02:14] <silverlightning> ?
[02:14] <sheenz> ok
[02:14] <soreau> silverlightning: gparted
[02:14] <sheenz> seems like something is happening
[02:14] <sheenz> from bios I changed to boot from usb
[02:14] <Datz> JerrysKid: ungrade your hardware, or don't run as much stuff. :P
[02:15] <sheenz> am on a welcome screen
[02:15] <edwardteach> sheenz, ok
[02:15] <sheenz> and I can see power off button sound and wireless of top right hand
[02:17] <edwardteach> sheenz,  so it boots ok from usb.. just not from your installed partition?
[02:18] <AegisX> Hmmm... another question, and this time around chmod haha. How do I change the folder permissions to allow my user to read and write? Thanks in advance.
[02:18] <jrib> !permissions > AegisX
[02:18] <silverlightning> soreau, gparted works for bootable cd or as an application?
[02:18] <jonathan> chmod +rw
[02:19] <jonathan> and then the filename
[02:19] <AegisX> jrib Thanks :)
[02:19] <silverlightning> as bootable *
[02:19] <AegisX> jonathon: Thanks :)
[02:19] <soreau> silverlightning: Both, but you should not modify the partition you're running so it's best to use a live cd
[02:19] <silverlightning> I see
[02:19] <silverlightning> I have truble burning iso images
[02:19] <edbian> AegisX, chmod 777 /path/to/folder   is one way   chown userName /path/to/folder  is another
[02:20] <pyroscope> silverlightning: if you can boot from usb, use that
[02:20] <silverlightning> hmm
[02:20] <AegisX> edbian: Ah, thank you!
[02:20] <edbian> AegisX, did it work?
[02:20] <soreau> silverlightning: You can even install ubuntu to a usb stick
[02:20] <silverlightning> pyroscope, does the usb memory flash have to be empty?
[02:20] <AegisX> Oh... no it didn't, edbian
[02:21] <silverlightning> does ubuntu resist burning iso?
[02:21] <AegisX> Hmmm, ever since I set the drive to mount on boot, it doesn't seem to let me write to it
[02:21] <oneliner> hack idea; would it be possible to install ubuntu on a sim card running as a mass storage unit from a phone?
[02:21] <edbian> AegisX, what is the output of ls -l /path/to/folder/   ?
[02:21] <pyroscope> silverlightning: don't think so, see http://partedmagic.com/doku.php
[02:22] <JeffCBR> Anyone installed ubuntu on an iPhone?
[02:22] <AegisX> edbian, it shows one folder I created called "Documents", then $RECYCLE.BIN and System Volume Information
[02:22] <edbian> AegisX, pm me?
[02:23] <changm> join #gentoo
[02:23] <silverlightning> gentoo what?
[02:24] <JeffCBR> what's the text ssh client?
[02:24] <TuffPoo> hey guys i got a problem... i did "try ubuntu" and it spit out the disk with a bunch of errors
[02:24] <adub> should hdmi sound play analog sound
[02:24] <silverlightning> tuffpoo, it always does that for me too, after install and first restart
[02:24] <daniel__> 3wine
[02:24] <adub> or will hdmi sound just play some sound?
[02:25] <silverlightning> tuffpoo, weird nick
[02:25] <TuffPoo> says failed due to unknown user id
[02:25] <JeffCBR> Admin on my old CS Server was TuffNuts.
[02:25] <silverlightning> hm
[02:25] <TuffPoo> silverlightning: hahaha yea its an old insife joke
[02:25] <silverlightning> lol
[02:26] <TuffPoo> inside*
[02:26] <michael138> hay i just downloaded google earth and it wont open is that because its not compatible or i have to do some thing with it?
[02:26] <silverlightning> you cannot log on or boot after install?
[02:26] <TuffPoo> i wish i was a better typer so i could word for word tell you
[02:26] <JeffCBR> What is the name of the ssh client in ubuntu?
[02:26] <silverlightning> I have trouble after installing Maverick too, but with a few attempts it boots
[02:27] <silverlightning> ...but sluggish version
[02:27] <a123456789> how to show NO?
[02:27] <silverlightning> I am very happy that my cooling fan is working though
[02:27] <edwardteach> !ssh | JeffCBR
[02:27] <TuffPoo> i booted the computer up and did "try ubuntu" then it spit out the disk and has a bunch of logical blocks
[02:27] <TuffPoo> errors
[02:27] <drc> TuffPoo: You burnt a LiveCD, booted the LiveCD, clicked on Try Ubuntu and it spit out the cd and stopped with errors?
[02:27] <TuffPoo> yes
[02:28] <JeffCBR> thanks, ed
[02:28] <TuffPoo> yes dr
[02:28] <silverlightning> tuffpoo, I see
[02:28] <Aikar> I really need advice :( Flash is causing my entire system to freeze forcing a hard power off to restart. ive tried like 4 diff versions of flash, 10.3 10.2, from ppa, from manual, FlashAid etc. all cause random complete freeze or spontaneus reboot
[02:28] <Aikar> no logs are reported to /var/log folder, checked every log file right before the boot and no messages
[02:28] <silverlightning> Tuffpoo, it often helps with a few attempts,
[02:28] <TuffPoo> it says getpwid_r (): failed due to unknown user id
[02:28] <TuffPoo> okay
[02:28] <silverlightning> tuffpoo, did you check the CD for errors?
[02:29] <silverlightning> weird
[02:29] <silverlightning> I never had that happen
[02:29] <TuffPoo> is it cuz my pc is 64bit and the disk is for 32?
[02:29] <ghost__> How to Add a shared Windows printer in Ubuntu10.10??
[02:30] <TuffPoo> i installed it on another pc fine so i think the disk is okay SilentDis
[02:30] <silverlightning> tuffpoo, no it shouldn't but you could try burning the 64 bit version
[02:30] <TuffPoo> i installed it on another pc fine so i think the disk is okay silverlightning
[02:30] <silverlightning> I see
[02:30] <michael138> well iam tryin to find a short hand dictionary  for Ubuntu or a place where its all laid out and i can c what it all means any one can help
[02:30] <silverlightning> it should be all right then
[02:31] <edwardteach> !printers | ghost__
[02:32] <michael138> its there a bok i could get to explane ubuntu to me
[02:32] <michael138> ??^_^
[02:32] <silverlightning> you could try booting, and choosing boot from cd manually, your computer might allow booting for cd if it resists
[02:33] <annmaria> I like Unix for the Impatient
[02:33] <silverlightning> I am starting to dislike Ubuntu on this computer
[02:33] <annmaria> There's also something like Unix in 10 minutes (each chapter is supposed to take 10 minutes)
[02:33] <annmaria> and the Ubuntu forums are a godsend
[02:34] <silverlightning> what would be an alternative to ubuntu, no-debian distribution ?
[02:34] <TuffPoo> silverlightning: im on a fedora pc right now heh
[02:34] <drc> silverlightning: Slackware
[02:35] <silverlightning> is there a fedora distribution that is fairly idiot proof like ubuntu?
[02:35] <silverlightning> thanks for the tips
[02:35] <silverlightning> both of you
[02:35] <moes> Trying to mount floppy drive..Get the error failed to "mount floppy drive" ran dmesg last entry " end_request: I/O/error,dev fd0,sector 0..How do I correct this error
[02:36] <TuffPoo> silverlightning: ubuntu is pretty noob proof
[02:36] <vegeta> hello
[02:36] <silverlightning> i know, I like ubuntu, but it doesn't agree with this computer, a fujitsu siemens amilo
[02:36] <michael138> thank u i look them up iam srry for any miss spellings my mother is sining
[02:36] <daniel__> is it possible to partition my harddrive without reinstalling my os
[02:36] <silverlightning> I have used ubuntu for years
[02:37] <silverlightning> puppy is too flimsy for me
[02:37] <wgwinn> is there a prepared package somewhere with the latest hyper-v drivers available? having some issues compiling by hand and i'm curious if theres a better work around
[02:37] <vegeta> i hate u guys
[02:37] <nit-wit> daniel__, most likely you have to more descriptive or post a partitioner picture.
[02:37] <vegeta> i hate u guys
[02:38] <silverlightning> stop hating
[02:38] <beata|lemur> Oh hey yeah. Re: CD errors. I had that problem booting from my sATA CD drive, but the disc I burned on that drive was just fine on the external drive I have.
[02:38] <vegeta> u kick my friends
[02:38] <silverlightning> they are a bad crowd
[02:38] <drc> michael138: Mathew Helmke - Ubuntu Unleashed (2011 Edition) is pretty complete
[02:38] <silverlightning> vegeta, negative influence on you
[02:39] <michael138> thanks drc and every one els
[02:39] <vegeta> please unbanned my friends
[02:40] <vegeta> please unbanned my friends
[02:40] <Logan_WP> !ops
[02:40] <silverlightning> this is getting repetetive
[02:40] <Jordan_U> vegeta: If you would like to discuss a ban please join #ubuntu-ops
[02:40] <Datz> you'll most likely join them if you keep that up vegeta
[02:40] <Logan_WP> sonic/student_ is back
[02:41] <Stew_822> Hello :), I just installed Xfce (from the software center) and don't know how to run it :D. I tried logging out but yeah, it wont let me :(. I have ubuntu 10.10 and when it starts it now says xubuntu, which I'm assuming is good :D. Anyway, when I try to log out I get an error message. If anyone thinks they can help, that would be appreciated :)
[02:41] <vegeta> i want tojoin
[02:41] <michael138> srry for stpid questions but iam a first time ubuntu user and ive only have had it for 5 days
[02:41] <vegeta> i want to join ops
[02:41] <edbian> michael138, now worries, what are the questions?
[02:41] <elky> michael138, the only stupid question is the one not asked.
[02:41] <silverlightning> stew_822, it should just log out as usual?
[02:41] <drc> michael138: this IS the place to ask questions
[02:42] <adub> how do i  disable keyring itits annoying
[02:42] <silverlightning> stew_882, but sometimes there are a few hick ups right after a new installation
[02:42] <elky> michael138,  Oh, and asking to ask questions is redundant, so just out with it ;)
[02:42] <michael138> well the dvd player in my computer is not picking up my dvds any more i cant fig how to fix it
[02:42] <Stew_822> silverlightning: I know but I've never logged out before. I don't even know if I've ever logged in. Anyway, it says Failed to receive a reply from the session manager -- The name org.xfce.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"ays "
[02:43] <michael138> ok i do that and never get ans
[02:43] <Stew_822> silverlightning: Without the spelling mistakes :D
[02:43] <elky> michael138, was it reading dvds before?
[02:43] <silverlightning> stew_882, unless you have very low RAM, there isn't much to gain in the xfce
[02:43] <michael138> yea when i had windows
[02:43] <elky> michael138, and never since you installed ubuntu?
[02:43] <timewriter> hi
[02:43] <michael138> yep
[02:43] <Stew_822> silverlightning: It isn't any faster?
[02:43] <edwardteach> moes,  check the trouble shooting section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Troubleshooting may help!
[02:44] <elky> michael138, what dvds are you trying to run?
[02:44] <drc> michael138: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:44] <ohsix> run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh :D
[02:44] <michael138> clerks and mallrats
[02:44] <drc> michael138: about halfway down "To play DVDs, you also need to install libdvdcss by opening a terminal and entering the following in addition to installing the restricted extras package: "
[02:45] <researcher1> where can I paste images?
[02:45] <machogeek> anyone know how to set the client id on dhcp3 ?
[02:45] <michael138> ok
[02:45] <Nabilcon> Hi. Is there an easy way to get my grub loader back? I just installed windows on another disk. So one disk is win7 and another ubuntu. But now i have windows boot loader. So how to get grub back as it was before. Im currently using Ubuntu Live from usb stick.
[02:45] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | researcher1
[02:45] <michael138> will be back
[02:46] <Roxyhart0> Hi there I extended a logical volume using lvextend, when I do lvdisplay the new size look correctly, but when I do df -h still show me the old size. There is something that I need to do after/before lvextend?
[02:46] <silverlightning> stew_882, if you managed to boot in or shift to xfce, and you could access applications or anything, you were logged on, but it really isn't that bad if the session wasn't stored
[02:46] <KXTwo> Hey guys using the rm command from terminal how would I delete a file like this: - delete me -
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Nabilcon: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[02:46] <Nabilcon> Jordan_U: Thank you :)
[02:46] <wgwinn> KXTwo rm ./- delete me -
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Nabilcon: You're welcome.
[02:46] <Senjai> Hi Everyone
[02:47] <KXTwo> wgwinn, whats the . / for?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> KXTwo: rm './- delete me -'
[02:47] <DaGeek247> hai Senjai
[02:47] <moes> edwardteach: This is a ide drive and not an external usb
[02:47] <Stew_822> silverlightning: I think I'm still using Gnome, though :P. Is Xfce any faster?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> KXTwo: So that rm does not try to interpret the '-' as being the beginning of an option/flag.
[02:47] <KXTwo> wgwinn, Is there a way to do it with \ "" or *
[02:48] <sheenz> ok all installed on my harddrive and we back to square 1
[02:48] <rww> someone has homework
[02:48] <silverlightning> stew_882, I found xcfe to be a bit more unstable than standard Ubuntu. Toolbars kept disappearing, sometimes the whole xfce function
[02:48] <erebel551> lo
[02:48] <researcher1> request to help with this http://imagebin.org/138525
[02:48] <erebel551> anyone know of a program to convert .chm to .pdf?
[02:49] <J_C> Stew_822: I've had no prob with XFCE, but I only use it on servers
[02:49] <michael138> so just go ahead and re boot and check
[02:49] <CoNFuS3D> hi, me again, would another sound card fix the problems  I am having with pulseaudio?
[02:49] <KXTwo> Jordan_U, is there a way to do it with \ "" or * or is that the only way
[02:49] <Jordan_U> erebel551: chm2pdf
[02:49] <CoNFuS3D> or would it likely just cause the same problems?
[02:49] <sheenz> Icons are covered up on the top of screen and on the left hand side
[02:49] <silverlightning> stew_822, on limited computer perhaps, but on standard equipment  I hardly noticed any  difference
[02:49] <Stew_822> silverlightning: Ok then thanks. I'll just leave it :P. Is KDE much slower than Gnome?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> KXTwo: Why do you ask?
[02:49] <erebel551> Jordan_U: thanks
[02:49] <Dj-Toast> Hi,  dont know if it interests anyone but found the answer to my raid issue I posted a while ago where rebooting would mess up the device detection.  You simply had to recreate the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf using "mdadm --detail --scan > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf" (WIHTOUT THE --VERBOSE option) this recreates the file without the configuration of static naming (EX: /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 )
[02:49] <Jordan_U> erebel551: You're welcome.
[02:49] <timewriter> i have uploaded a image
[02:49] <Senjai> KXTwo, it's reccomended that you find a tutorial on understanding basic system architecture for linux.
[02:49] <timewriter> can i paste the link
[02:50] <Jordan_U> timewriter: Yes.
[02:50] <Stew_822> J_C: Do you find it much faster?
[02:50] <Jordan_U> timewriter: If it's apropriate for a support channel like this that is...
[02:50] <KXTwo> Jordan_U, because im doing a case study on using those to deal with file names, most of the questions involved cat, but there is a question on removing this file
[02:50] <timewriter> http://img526.imageshack.us/f/screenshotxnr.png/
[02:50] <timewriter> vote my desktop
[02:51] <Senjai> KXTwo the . can mean various things, in wgwinns example, it means use rm on the current dirctory /the folder.
[02:51] <Senjai> it can also stand for hidden directories
[02:51] <J_C> Stew_822: not faster but adequate and it doesn't hammer the processor as much as Gnome or KDE, depends on what you need it for, I guess
[02:51] <Senjai> KXTwo, check this link out: http://yolinux.com
[02:51] <Jordan_U> !ot | timewriter
[02:51] <KXTwo> I dont think im getting my question along properly
[02:52] <KXTwo> thanks anyway though
[02:52] <Senjai> KXTwo, please reiterate, i just came online
[02:52] <moes>  Trying to mount floppy drive..Get the error failed to "mount floppy drive" ran dmesg last entry " end_request: I/O/error,dev fd0,sector 0..How do I correct this error
[02:52] <Stew_822> J_C: I'm just trying to speed up my desktop a little :)
[02:52] <Senjai> KXTwo, perhaps I missed it
[02:52] <SpeedrunnerG55> is threre software i can program my lego mindstorms on ubuntu?
[02:52] <J_C> Stew_822: I'm mostly on the command line
[02:52] <timewriter> i thought we can paste random images
[02:52] <Senjai> Timewriter, only related to support questions :)
[02:52] <J_C> Stew_822: more ram :-)
[02:52] <KXTwo> Senjai, you did, I just want to know if there is a way to rm the file with \ "" *,
[02:52] <timewriter> :P
[02:53] <Senjai> KXTwo, what file did you want to remove?
[02:53] <Stew_822> J_C: Okay then :). Thanks for your help, and you too, silverlight :)
[02:53] <timewriter> anyone tested Lxde ?
[02:53] <Senjai> !rm | KXTwo
[02:53] <Datz> damn, I had a picture of the ground just ready to link
[02:53] <SpeedrunnerG55> ??
[02:53] <J_C> no prob
[02:53] <KXTwo> oi vey nvm
[02:53] <KXTwo> take care
[02:53] <Senjai> KXTwo, good luck :)
[02:53] <SpeedrunnerG55> i thought this was a help channel
[02:53] <testa> I'm having network issues..
[02:54] <testa> and I need help!
[02:54] <Senjai> SpeedrunnerG55, it is
[02:54] <Senjai> !ask | testa
[02:54] <mickster04> Senjai: it is
[02:54] <mickster04> Senjai: sorry wrong nick
[02:54] <KXTwo> it is just make sure you give every detail possible or you will be inundated with links :)
[02:54] <mickster04> SpeedrunnerG55: it is
[02:54] <Senjai> mickster04, ;)
[02:54] <Garfield> sup people
[02:54] <mickster04> Garfield: hey
[02:54] <Garfield> anyone working on morpgs
[02:54] <Datz> chillin in #ubuntu
[02:54] <SpeedrunnerG55> so im trying to program my lego mindstorms, were can i find the software
[02:55] <mickster04> !ot
[02:55]  * Senjai waves at Garfield 
[02:55] <testa> ok. My problem is that I have installed a wireless card (a netgear card) that required drivers to install. I've installed the drivers for it, am able to view wireless networks, but cannot connect to one (as in when I try to connect, it maintains the status of "connecting" and never actually connects..)
[02:55] <mickster04> SpeedrunnerG55: what has that got to do with ubuntu?
[02:55] <J_C> SpeedrunnerG55: have you googled "linux + mindstorm" or "ubuntu + mindstorm"? This is a help channel, but maybe nobody online right now uses mindstorm
[02:55] <Senjai> SpeedrunnerG55, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Mindstorms+for+ubuntu
[02:55] <SpeedrunnerG55> i want to know if there is software i get for ubuntu
[02:55] <Jordan_U> !google | Senjai
[02:55] <mickster04> harsh Jordan_U :p
[02:56] <Senjai> Not really Jordan, the solution is to google it. Or search the repositories
[02:56] <Senjai> And most people do have the google-fu
[02:56] <h00k> Senjai: Google-it is not an appropriate answer for this channel. Period.
[02:56] <mickster04> SpeedrunnerG55: this is ubuntu help, not lego help
[02:56] <KXTwo> ubottu, that is the smartest thing ive seen you say
[02:56] <Senjai> h00k, fine, understood.
[02:56] <mickster04> h00k: seeing as that is all you can do i think it was? and it wasnt a good it, it was lmgtfy?
[02:57] <J_C> Senjai: yes
[02:57] <Datz> what about lmytfy it? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy&l=1
[02:57] <Datz> oops forgot g
[02:57] <rww> 4/whois SpeedrunnerG55
[02:57]  * rww facepalms
[02:57] <HowardTheDuck> hey
[02:57] <Senjai> rww lol
[02:57] <mickster04> hey HowardTheDuck
[02:58] <michael138> ok now what is good compatible  like bs player or some thrid party system
[02:58] <timewriter> i love ubuntu for no good reason
[02:58] <Senjai> HowardTheDuck, Hi :)
[02:58] <HowardTheDuck> is there a bad default network setting with ubuntu 10.04 or something?  websites are continually timing out, but when i boot into my win7 partition, everything is snappy
[02:58] <mickster04> michael138: vlc?
[02:58] <adub> i want to completely delete keyring from my system
[02:58] <michael138> i love it cus its so much fun to use
[02:58] <HowardTheDuck> hey Senjai :)
[02:58] <testa> Is anybody here a whiz at networking and probably drivers?
[02:58] <J_C> h00k: Since when, just curious, I see people refer to google all the time. Sometimes the docs are there that explain better than miles of irc input can do
[02:58] <HowardTheDuck> hey mickster04  :)
[02:58] <michael138> vlc
[02:58] <Zenze> Anyone know how to tell if they hard drive i just installed is set up to use 4096B sectors?
[02:58] <Senjai> testa, just ask your question :)
[02:58] <adub> hwo would i go about deleting keyring from my system i dont need something to help me remember passwords aqnd th thing is just annoying
[02:58] <tyler_d> ok, I'm looking to cut everything on a per-line basis before, and including a string that I have grepped
[02:58] <Senjai> J_C, don't worry about it.
[02:59] <testa> Well, my question is: What do I do!? (previous message: My problem is that I have installed a wireless card (a netgear card) that required drivers to install. I've installed the drivers for it, am able to view wireless networks, but cannot connect to one (as in when I try to connect, it maintains the status of "connecting" and never actually connects..)
[02:59] <ohsix> KXTwo: rm -- -\ delete\ me\ - can work too, -- is "ignore the rest as options"
[02:59] <J_C> Senjai: thanks :-)
[02:59] <Senjai> testa, can you connect via a wired connection?
[02:59] <Senjai> testa, have you tried more than one network/
[03:00] <testa> I can connect sometimes to a wired network, it's very erratic.
[03:00] <KXTwo> ohsix, yess some one who got it lol
[03:00] <Senjai> testa, I know 10.10 has some issues with it, some wireless drivers work better on 10.04
[03:00] <Senjai> testa, perhaps you should downgrade? but consult more professional opinions first.
[03:00] <jonathan> adub, system>preferences>passwords and encryption keys
[03:00] <testa> How do I downgrade then?
[03:01] <rww> !downgrade
[03:01] <timewriter> i need to find a wireless cable now
[03:01] <ohsix> Senjai: were you really telling someone to find a tutorial about linux to learn about his shell or argument conventions? :O
[03:01] <mickster04> timewriter: aha i see what you did there
[03:01] <Aikar> ok to follow up with flash killing my PC. the entire kernel is frozen. i cant even perform REISUB
[03:01] <drc> h00k: is saying "google it" with search terms (foo+bar) that you found <several or many> hits acceptable?
[03:01] <timewriter> where mickster04
[03:01] <Senjai> rww what doy you think on his issues
[03:01] <Aikar> its frozen right now, i cant ssh in, cant reisub
[03:01] <mickster04> timewriter: a wireless wire?
[03:01] <Aikar> anyone got any ideas on how to stop flash from killing my ubuntu 10.10? :(
[03:02] <timewriter> yes
[03:02] <mickster04> Aikar: remove it?
[03:02] <mickster04> timewriter: oxymoron much?
[03:02] <Aikar> mickster04: then how will i browse my porn sites :(
[03:02]  * timewriter ...
[03:02] <adub> jonathan how do i disable keyring???????
[03:02] <h00k> !ohmy | Aikar
[03:02] <Senjai> ohsix, I misperceived his question, as I connected partway through his explination, I thought his difficulty was with understanding how the filesystem works on linux, e.g. directories are represented by / not \
[03:03] <timewriter> im testing Squeeze in vmware
[03:03] <Senjai> ohsix, to which I answered first, then forwarded him to the site, but then I found i misinterpreted his question.
[03:03] <adub> how do i disable keyring????
[03:03] <jonathan> adub, delete it
[03:03] <Datz> ha @ ohmy
[03:03] <Aikar> back to topic... flash is literally freezing my entire system. the alt+sysrq key combos dont even work. no ssh. ive tried multiple flash versions, latest nvidia driver
[03:03] <adub> i dont know the package name jonathan to apt-get remove
[03:03] <timewriter> do you believe what happened
[03:03] <timewriter> some guy asked me to install a antivirus on his system
[03:03] <jonathan> oh you want to remove the package from the OS?
[03:03] <jonathan> gnome-keyring
[03:04] <timewriter> then he came and started looking inside the case
[03:04] <adub> if removing it will get rid of the stupid annoying pop up
[03:04] <adub> then yeah i wont use the app
[03:04] <timewriter> when i asked him what is he looking for , he said : the antivirus
[03:04] <timewriter> :(
[03:04] <ohsix> Aikar: bad luck there, its either the driver or something hw related in your machine
[03:04] <jonathan> you'll have to enter your keycode everytime you connect to an encrypted wireless though
[03:05] <adub> jonathan so keyring prevents having to input the keycode everytime
[03:05] <adub> it just not have been saving it before then
[03:05] <Aikar> ohsix: i just ran a memtest, it all passed. it is new hardware, didnt happen on old box, should i do something after moving my hdd from 1 box to a new one to refresh for new hardware?
[03:05] <Datz> does unity work pretty decently in 10.10?
[03:05] <timewriter> hihi
[03:06] <testa> Would anybody know a way to change the ways I can connect to a wireless network? When I try to connect to my network (which I know has WPA/WPA2 Personal security on it) my computer assumes it's WPA/WPA2 Enterprise security...
[03:06] <timewriter> use a wireless cable
[03:06] <testa> a wireless cable?
[03:06] <J_C> Datz:I'm using it on an older Asus netbook... it's OK but it has some ways to go, sometimes it's irritating
[03:06] <jonathan> adub, keyring stores the password
[03:06] <th0r> testa: might try wicd in place of network-mangler
[03:06] <testa> okay.
[03:06] <Datz> J_C: ah I see.
[03:06] <adub> so when im booting up
[03:07] <adub> is it asking for my computer password
[03:07] <adub> or the wifi
[03:07] <adub> little confused
[03:07] <ohsix> Aikar: best you can probably do is find something other than flash that can make it freeze, could be the power supply or a lot of things unfortunately
[03:07] <Datz> J_C: I can install it and choose if I want it or gnome at boot, correct?
[03:07] <jonathan> if you're connecting to the wifi without gnome-keyring installed it'll want the network keycode
[03:07] <jonathan> gnome keyring just stores it for you
[03:07] <ohsix> testa: can you look at the beacons with wireshark? it says what security options are available
[03:08] <J_C> Datz: I'm not sure about that, I just installed it recently on the netbook. I haven't tried it on a standard laptop or desktop
[03:08] <testa> I'll try.
[03:08] <lolicloud> If I want to wipe my ubuntu partition to install something else all that I need to backup is the home folder or is there anything else I might miss?
[03:08] <Aikar> i think ima try putting hdd back in old system
[03:08] <timewriter> i wish a linux versions for world of warcraft
[03:08] <ohsix> testa: the beacons could be wrong, or it could have ent as an option when you're not expecting it, but you can tell networkmanager what authentication it actually uses if you edit the connection
[03:08] <silverlightning> hi again
[03:08] <timewriter> hi
[03:08] <J_C> Datz: it's ok for the netbook, but I'm not overly impressed, I'd avoid it on a regular box for awhile anyway
[03:09] <silverlightning> how bad is it to use a hacked windows 7?
[03:09] <kevdog> lolicloud: possible some things in /etc depending on what you have done
[03:09] <Datz> J_C: ah ok. I'd be testing it on my desktop.. well via an external drive
[03:09] <timewriter> very bad
[03:09] <timewriter> why would you use a hacked os ?
[03:09] <silverlightning> :')
[03:09] <testa> I'm not sure how to view the beacons in Wireshark
[03:09] <[thor]> adub: the keyring saves wifi passwords on it's giant security-guard style ring. when you access a wifi network, it remembers working passwords, and enters them automatically next time.
[03:09] <ischliky> anyone know how i can extend a gnome panel to be on 2 screens using twinview? or at least move a new panel to the other screen, all new panels i cant seem to swap screens on
[03:09] <gaelfx> I'm looking into getting a tablet pc, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about their trials and tribulations in dealing with a touchscreen and ubuntu?
[03:09] <silverlightning> because my recovery XP SP2 cd is ruined
[03:09] <timewriter> just because youre in norway , i have a gift for you
[03:09] <mickster04> timewriter: just use wine and the windows version
[03:09] <timewriter> msg me pls
[03:10] <J_C> Datz: external drive? why not? for testing purposes yo can tell us if you can change managers :-)
[03:10] <h00k> !windows | silverlightning
[03:10] <timewriter> mickster04, i tried , but its nut the same thing
[03:10] <Datz> J_C: will do :)
[03:10] <[thor]> adub: entering your password is letting the keyring know you are the real user. if you don't enter it, or if someone tries to log in as you, they will have to enter all the wifi passwords manually.
[03:10] <mickster04> timewriter: I think you'll find that wow runs better in wine than it does in windows
[03:10] <J_C> Datz: You could be the "go to" guy :-)
[03:10] <J_C> Ask Datz!
[03:10] <timewriter> mickster04, not true
[03:10] <Datz> haha
[03:10] <mickster04> timewriter: true
[03:11]  * Datz will do his best!
[03:11] <timewriter> i tried , and i can exploit my videocard at its full capabilities
[03:11] <lolicloud> kevdog: what's stored on /etc? I think all I need to backup are documents and chatlogs but I might be forgeting something?
[03:11] <timewriter> i cant*
[03:11] <timewriter> i mean
[03:11] <timewriter> 2x multisampling ?
[03:11] <timewriter> pft
[03:11] <J_C> I can see it now... Is Datz on? :-)
[03:11] <silverlightning> ubutto, I am trying to dual install with Maverick
[03:11] <[thor]> adub: if you don't use wifi, you don't have anything to worry about by simply disabling it during startup ( Settings > Preferences > Startup Applications --> [ ] Secret Storage Service )
[03:12] <silverlightning> ubottu
[03:12] <ohsix> testa: ah, it's a bit involved, but you should be able to get them when its not connected, just pick the interface, record a while; then look for "Beacon frames", they get decoded in the bottom pane
[03:12] <timewriter> lol you just become a godfather
[03:12] <h00k> !dualboot | silverlightning
[03:12] <kevdog> the /etc contains setting for various programs -- initialization files.  If you haven't done a lot of customizing or installing, or manipulating daemons or listening servers, it probably doesn't apply to you
[03:13] <lolicloud> kevdog: Ok, thank you.
[03:13] <J_C> silverlightning: dual boot is pretty easy, but the best way to start is install windows first, the ubuntu/fedora./whatever. Grib will figure it out and install correctly
[03:13] <ohsix> testa: if not, you'd need to put the wifi in monitoring mode and thats kind of a pain in the butt, networkmanager does have a log that is verbose enough to tell you what it sees; wireshark would be for verifying it yourself
[03:14] <kevdog> ohsix: only a pain in the butt if you haven't set up a script to automate that
[03:14] <ohsix> doing it at all when it wont solve your problem directly, script or not; is a pain in the butt
[03:17] <kevdog> putting your card in monitor mode is a pain?
[03:18] <Nabilcon> Hi.. How to get disk UUID of all partitions when running from ubuntu live usb stick? i did try with blkid but got no output.. Just back to prompt.
[03:18] <ohsix> kevdog: your grandmother can't be expected to do it
[03:19] <kevdog> my grandmother doesn't even know what linux is
[03:19] <ohsix> Nabilcon: did you use sudo or do it as root?
[03:19] <ecinx> I'm having a nightmare trying to install an application, quartus
[03:20] <ecinx> when I try to set up with sudo sh ./filename.sh
[03:20] <Nabilcon> ohsix: i've tried with sudo.. But no output at all
[03:20] <ohsix> Nabilcon: similar information can be had in /dev/.blkid.tab (it's what blkid reads)
[03:20] <timewriter> ecinx
[03:21] <timewriter> you dont need the ./
[03:21] <ecinx> it extracts and then gives me soem conf.d error and altera_installer_gui: cannot connect to X server :0
[03:21] <timewriter> sudo sh filename.sh
[03:21] <Nabilcon> ohsix: thanks.. i will check that :)
[03:21] <ohsix> Nabilcon: udev fills it out, i dunno whats going on with the livecd tho :]
[03:22] <linux> dwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwdewfde
[03:22] <ihack4fun> My grandmother is Linux
[03:22] <linux> 2222222222222
[03:22] <ecinx> sudo: 10.1sp1_quartus_free_linuxx.sh: command not found
[03:22] <ecinx>  without the ./
[03:22] <linux> help me
[03:22] <mickster04> linux: learn to type?
[03:22] <ohsix> how do i do a linux
[03:22] <ihack4fun> Ho
[03:23] <ihack4fun> Oops
[03:23] <cp2_4eva> whats up all. Anyone know a good backup tool?
[03:23] <ihack4fun> How do I do a Linux WTF
[03:23] <harpreet> What region of dvd , dvd styler creates as iso that we later burn?
[03:24] <ohsix> cp2_4eva: i've been using duplicity via deja-dup lately
[03:24] <cp2_4eva> Ohsix, oh rly? I should see what thats like. never heard of it.
[03:24] <ohsix> cp2_4eva: unfortunately you can't have everything, and you're probably looking for the least worst ... which i also don't know ;]
[03:25] <harpreet> What region of dvd , dvd styler creates as iso that we later burn?
[03:25] <ecinx> how do i install this thing?
[03:25] <ecinx> it extracts and then gives me soem conf.d error and altera_installer_gui: cannot connect to X server :0
[03:26] <harpreet> ecinx, wat thing?
[03:26] <ecinx> sudo: 10.1sp1_quartus_free_linuxx.sh: command not found , message when sudo filename.sh
[03:26] <ecinx> I'm trying to instal something for my digital logic class
[03:26] <reign2> how can I stop ubuntu from shutting networking down on suspend?
[03:27] <ohsix> reign2: what would it be doing if it was on?
[03:27] <h00k> reign2: you don't, suspend doesn't keep the networks powered up.
[03:28] <ohsix> you can keep some devices on, but they wouldn't do anything, and i think they block suspend if you do
[03:28] <J_C> reign2: the point of suspend is to suspend all activity
[03:28] <reign2> during a dist upgrade, I left the pc unattended only to come back and find the update failed because networking went down
[03:28] <ohsix> all but the ec & usb ;]
[03:28] <h00k> reign2: yes, that's what suspend does.
[03:29] <ohsix> reign2: so postpone suspend
[03:29] <h00k> reign2: you can adjust your power settings to prevent it from going into suspend
[03:29] <J_C> reign2: best to turn suspend off before updating
[03:29] <ohsix> or with the inhibit sleep panel applet
[03:29] <ecinx> after extracting there's a file called setup
[03:29] <ecinx> i do sudo ./setup  and i get a message
[03:29] <ohsix> if you use upgrade-manager it does inhibit suspend, otherwise you're on your own
[03:29] <reign2> isn't that sort of counter-intuitive for the updater to not send a dbus signal to keep the os from dropping into suspend?
[03:30] <ecinx>  Starting GUI. If nothing shows up, or you don't have an X display, run:
[03:30] <ecinx>    ./setup --help
[03:30] <J_C> reign2: depends on if you used the update app or from the command line, I suppose
[03:30] <ohsix> desktop tools do desktoppy things like inhibit suspend
[03:31] <reign2> hmm, I was using update-manager though
[03:31] <J_C> reign2: for what it's worth, I've never done an update unless I'm plugged in
[03:31] <reign2> and it still suspended
[03:31] <ohsix> wacky
[03:31] <J_C> reign2: plus I have the settings at "do not suspend" when plugged in
[03:31] <ohsix> are you using kubuntu?
[03:32] <Datz> so I get this error when I try to load unity: No required driver detected for unity
[03:32] <reign2> nope; 10.10 ubuntu upgraded from lucid
[03:32] <Datz> on 10.10
[03:32] <Datz> oh well, no biggie
[03:32] <Datz> not too long until 11.04
[03:32] <ohsix> did you install mutter too?
[03:33] <Datz> who?
[03:33] <ohsix> you
[03:33] <Datz> lol, no
[03:33] <J_C> what <mutter mutter mutter>
[03:33] <Datz> just package :unity"
[03:33] <J_C> ?
[03:33] <Yanks> Im true gangsta
[03:33] <Yanks> you know ur motherboard has 250$ worth of gold in it?
[03:33]  * J_C mutters to himself
[03:34] <ohsix> nm they ditched mutter for compiz
[03:34] <Jordan_U> !ot | Yanks
[03:34] <Yanks> you know ur motherboard has 250$ worth of gold in it?
[03:34] <Darkenvy> whats the channel that can help me with setting up syncing protocols?
[03:34] <Datz> also I can't get unity working on my laptop as the graphics card is unsupported
[03:34] <Yanks> !ops
[03:34] <Yanks> !ops
[03:34] <FloodBot3> Yanks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <Yanks> !ops
[03:34] <Datz> so I'm stuck until 11.04
[03:34] <ohsix> Datz: wacky, it works in my netbook and my notebook
[03:35] <J_C> Datz: As I mentioned, not impressed, I don't think you're missing anything.
[03:35] <Darkenvy> What can I use to ALWAYS sync two folders on seperate servers?
[03:35] <Datz> ohsix: well I have ATI x1400 card in my laptop which is now unsupported I guess
[03:35] <phrac> Darkenvy: rsync?
[03:35] <Darkenvy> yes but I need it to always be active and keep the latesat file
[03:35] <Darkenvy> rsync and unison are one time deals?
[03:36] <ohsix> Datz: it should be; does jockey offer to install a proprietary driver?
[03:36] <Datz> J_C: yea, I have 10.04's very primitive version installed, not that great. But I'd just like to get a decent preview of this new desktop :p
[03:36] <phrac> Darkenvy: rsync in cron or maybe nfs?
[03:36] <Nabilcon> Why does ubuntu live just detect 3.2gb RAM? I got 8gb on this computer so why does it not use all? Im just curious.
[03:37] <Darkenvy> Im a little new to setting up daemons. Is it easy to set up?
[03:37] <ohsix> Darkenvy: inotify-tools has a program that can run arbitrary stuff on file changes; but what you're asking to do is more intensive than you think
[03:37] <Jordan_U> Nabilcon: Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[03:37] <ohsix> Nabilcon: (^ or livecd)
[03:37] <Darkenvy> Oh I forgot to mention I dont have a GUI on either machine. both are servers
[03:38] <ohsix> Darkenvy: you' can't arrange for both to access common storage?
[03:38] <Nabilcon> Jordan_U: My installed is 32 bit.. And it uses all 8gb.. But this Live cd only used 3.2
[03:38] <Jordan_U> !pae | Nabilcon
[03:38] <J_C> Datz: It appears to be a not very well executed Mac OSX, for what it's worth
[03:38] <Jordan_U> Nabilcon: The liveCD doesn't contain a PAE kernel.
[03:38] <J_C> OSX Desktop
[03:38] <Darkenvy> well they would be saved and changed so often beings that the files are playerdata for an online game
[03:39] <Nabilcon> Jordan_U: Oh ok.. So thats why my installed used all and not the live. Thanks.. I was just curious :)
[03:39] <Darkenvy> FTP didnt seem like a viable option for this. Ive had hardships with FTP not being very good at dedicated important things
[03:39] <Jordan_U> Nabilcon: You're welcome.
[03:39] <ohsix> Darkenvy: you can't store them in a database instead?
[03:40] <phrac> Darkenvy: I'm with ohsix on this, it sounds like a perfect match for a database
[03:40] <Darkenvy> I am interested in this database you speak of. How can I set one up? (Im an everyday linux user but no expert at scripting)
[03:41] <phrac> Darkenvy: check out mysql or postgresql
[03:41] <Senjai> Omg, if WINE allows me to run Adobe Dreamweave with no problems, I'm going to go crazy
[03:41] <ohsix> it's not hard to use ceph or something either, but it's not a great idea to share files for that sort of thing
[03:41] <J_C> Darkenvy: Have you looked at Unison?
[03:41] <Darkenvy> can you upload files to myswl or is this something that msut be mysql supported? Ive ehard of this before
[03:42] <Datz> J_C: ah, I see. ohsix nope, just a warning and then I'm logged out again
[03:42] <jdkoreclipse> yo
[03:42] <harpreet> ecinx, wat thing?
[03:42] <ohsix> unison is heavy and will not work great for jobs ran more than daily
[03:42] <harpreet> What region of dvd , dvd styler creates as iso that we later burn?
[03:42] <Darkenvy> yea unison is a one time deal. I need it to run daemon. Always on and syncing constantly
[03:42] <J_C> ahh
[03:43] <J_C> what about cron and rsync, just a suggestion?
[03:43] <ecinx> harpreet,  quartus I don't know what's the professional use of it, but it's what we use in digital logic
[03:43] <ohsix> Datz: i mean in your regular desktop session, install the driver there; if "Extra" effects in the appearance applet works then unity should too
[03:43] <Darkenvy> the purpose of the syncing btw, is a second game server to share gamedata between. I dont think I need this hardcore mysql. so rsync probably can do what I need?
[03:44] <Datz> ohsix: ah, ok. i'll make a note, not booted to that drive anymore
[03:44] <Datz> thanks
[03:44] <J_C> Darkenvy: if the changes are relatively intermittant that may work, a 5 minute or 10 minute cron job?
[03:44] <phrac> Darkenvy: yes, but its not going to be instant updates
[03:44] <Darkenvy> thats fine!
[03:44] <ohsix> the files will all be scanned as part of the process too
[03:45] <Darkenvy> How do I setup rsync to push and pull? I find the oddest documentation on it for one time jobs and such
[03:45] <amit> ho to make full screen in virtual os
[03:45] <J_C> Darkenvy: I would check the docs for a one time job setup, put together a small bash scitpt doing the same, then drop it into cron
[03:46] <J_C> script
[03:46] <sheenz> ok muttter is running, cant switch
[03:46] <amit> and is there any way to open tty modes for virtual OS?
[03:46] <sheenz> ???
[03:46] <Darkenvy> What is cron exactly? a process that runs scripts intermittently?
[03:46] <ohsix> it's far better to share a common filesystem
[03:46] <J_C> Darkenvy: exactly
[03:47] <J_C> Darkenvy: check out /etc/cron.d, cron.daily, etc to get an idea, also there are excellent references on the 'net
[03:48] <ecinx> does anyone knows about intel core i7 HD graphics for laptops?
[03:48] <J_C> !cron
[03:48] <ecinx> I have 8gb of memory, i'm wondering how i can give more to the graphics
[03:48] <cannonfiddler> ecinx no but i know intel graphics have always sucked if you need to do anything graphics related
[03:48] <Darkenvy> hey thanks guys!
[03:48] <J_C> no prob
[03:48] <sheenz> appearance preferences--> visual Effects -->mutter is running, cant switch?? what is this
[03:49] <J_C> Darkenvy: don't forget "man cron" for local documentation
[03:49] <Surye> Hmm, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 Server, and I've tried 2 different USB sticks (using both unetbootin and Universal-USB-Installer), 2 different CDs burned. The iso checks out on md5sum. I've checked the ram. But the CD keeps showing errors on check disk, and the USB is giving me "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM", even when using cdrom-detect/try-usb=true. I've had my burning software verify the burned disc
[03:49] <ecinx> cannonfiddler, i can agree but i have a tablet pc, they really can't have  a gpu.. It's not for gaming or anything though
[03:49] <J_C> and "man crontab"
[03:49] <Surye> Is there any known issues with this installer, or is something seriously fubared?
[03:50] <sheenz> any help :   appearance preferences--> visual Effects -->mutter is running, cant switch?? what is this
[03:50] <J_C> Surye: just for doublecheck, have you checked the cd on another system, possible prob with that particular hardware?
[03:50] <cabbie-ubuntu> im getting a permission error trying to create a file within etc/udev/rules.d so i pretty much assume its a sudo issue but not sure how to work around it. I'm trying to do this: http://nookdevs.com/ADB_Over_USB (scroll to linux)
[03:51] <J_C> cabbie-ubuntu: have you sudo'd to root or are you trying it as the standard user you are logged in as?
[03:52] <J_C> only root can write to that directory
[03:52] <ohsix> cabbie-ubuntu: try reading the android docs on android.com
[03:52] <RandyRKelly> Hello I need help. I did a partial upgrade and now I have no net work. No internet connect.
[03:52] <Surye> J_C: Is there anyway to install from the usb drive, but only to do a full install from the net?
[03:52] <ohsix> cabbie-ubuntu: theres a lot of garbage tutorials and misinformation surrounding the stuff; best to get it from the source
[03:53] <Blue1> ['=
[03:53] <J_C> Surye: I'm sure there is, but offhand I can't give you direct instructions. Check for a network install cd
[03:54] <ohsix> Surye: yes, with the alternate install media, you should try the ubuntu usb maker & skip the third party utilities
[03:54] <amit> how to use  my virtual box OS in full screen?
[03:54] <J_C> and put that on the usb stick
[03:54] <h00k> !virtualbox | amit
[03:54] <Surye> ohsix: Where is that? I thought it was not included anymore?
[03:54] <dr3af> hello,i recently read about the "200 line kernel patch" that do the system faster.My question is,is this patch applied to the latest kernel 10.10 uses?or we must do something to apply that patch?
[03:55] <ohsix> in windows i don't know, in ubuntu it's under system -> administration -> startup disk creator
[03:55] <klj613-> how can i get a list of all my possible mounts? sd1, sd2 etc and saying what they are.
[03:55] <Rommel_> Ello all
[03:55] <Rommel_> Anyone recommend a good 5.1 soundcard that works with Ubuntu?
[03:56] <ohsix> klj613-: udisks --dump
[03:56] <klj613-> ty
[03:56] <psusi> dr3af, you read the opinion of an idiot.  It does not make anything faster.  All it does is prevent 64 programs all running in a terminal window from hogging the cpu from other gui tasks
[03:56] <J_C> klj613-: you could look at /etc/fstab to see what the system is directly aware of
[03:56] <nit-wit> klj613-, sudo fdisk -l
[03:56] <Rommel_> Bout to get a 5.1 system, and not sure whether the various cards will work, as my old (yet shitty) one doesn't work
[03:56] <klj613-> im tryin to figure out which one is my memory stick to remount it with full permissions for everyone
[03:56] <dr3af> psusi: linus made this patch.right?
[03:56] <bastidrazor> klj613-: sudo fdisk -l   ::will list all partitions and the /dev/sXXX
[03:56] <psusi> dr3af, no, he didn't.
[03:57] <ohsix> udisks is the winningest!
[03:57] <Rommel_> So, any ideas for a good 5.1 sound card for Ubuntu 10.10?
[03:57] <cabbie-ubuntu> J_C, ohsix basically im getting a device not found error. Running adb remount as sudo gives no devices found
[03:57] <bastidrazor> ohsix: a bit overkill
[03:57] <ohsix> Rommel_: you don't have an hdaudio or ac97 card that does 5/7.1 already?
[03:57] <Rommel_> I have onboard... and its horrible :P
[03:57] <ohsix> bastidrazor: "and saying what they are"
[03:58] <J_C> klj613-: is the stick mounted now? if so, just run mount in  a command lin to show what is mounted, then run remount with the appropriate switches "man mount"
[03:58] <ohsix> Rommel_: in most cases its fine coming out of the machine, only to be made worse after :P
[03:58] <cabbie-ubuntu> I was running the ubuntu desktop version but that got corrupted and now im on the netbook version. Previously talking to my device was fine, im trying to walk back what might have gone wrong
[03:59] <Rommel_> haha, unfortunately its bung, only 1 channel works out of the back
[03:59] <ohsix> J_C: can't remount fuse mounts, chances are he'll need allow_other
[03:59] <dr3af> psusi: so,if the guy who wrote that is an idiot,why linus is going to import this patch to the kernel?at least thats what i understand in the mailing list..
[03:59] <klj613-> /dev/sdd is my memory stick. and i unmounted the device ready to remount it
[03:59] <Rommel_> The output doesn't work at all in Win7 :D
[03:59] <J_C> fuse mounts are a pain, I think :-)
[03:59] <ohsix> Rommel_: nice
[03:59] <psusi> dr3af, the guy who wrote it isn't an idiot... it's all of the hype about it that is idiocy... mostly from Phoronix and his readers
[03:59] <Rommel_> so
[03:59] <J_C> remount -o rw ?
[03:59] <klj613-> -o ?
[03:59] <dr3af> what phoronix is?
[04:00] <psusi> dr3af, a guy with a blog
[04:00] <machogeek> has anyone set the Client id using dhcp3? I am a bit of a nob w/ linux and haven't been able to figure out where to set this
[04:00] <J_C> I'm not on a linux box at the moment, but man monunt will give you all the switches
[04:00] <J_C> man mount
[04:00] <dr3af> psusi: so i shouldnt apply this patch?
[04:00] <J_C> -o options
[04:00] <psusi> dr3af, you can apply it if you want, just don't expect it to do much
[04:01] <psusi> dr3af, unless you like to run make -j64
[04:01] <J_C> options being read, write and all
[04:01] <kusanagi> what do i have to do to upgrade from 10.04.1 to 10.04.2?
[04:01] <klj613-> i need everything to have full rights of the memory stick for a symlink for apache to work. how do i remount giving everyone full rights?
[04:01] <dr3af> psusi: only at this way it will work?not ,for example, at full load?
[04:01] <rww> kusanagi: nothing. point releases like 10.04.1 and 10.04.2 are just rollups of normal updates. if you've been paying attention to update messages, you're fine./
[04:01] <superman> hey guy wat u doing
[04:01] <ohsix> machogeek: sending dhcp options is gr8 stuff, confusing as hell; but dhclient has shorthand for it. send dhcp-client-identifier
[04:01] <kusanagi> thanks rww :D
[04:01] <J_C> check the mount man page, something like, remount -o rw,all /dev/sdd1
[04:02] <superman> hey guy wat u doing
[04:02] <Snowdrift> убунту 10.10. как понять где звук в /дев/ ?
[04:02] <klj613-> ok
[04:02] <Rommel_> So any recommendations
[04:02] <Rommel_> Not fussed for budget
[04:02] <Rommel_> lol
[04:02] <Snowdrift> ubuntu 10.10. how to understand where the sound in / Dev /?
[04:02] <ohsix> machogeek: you'll have to figure out how to get ubuntu's networking stuff to use your configuration, i haven't had to do it yet so i don't know
[04:02] <machogeek> ohsix: would i put that in the option list?
[04:03] <psusi> dr3af, the patch groups processes by tty and schedules them with that information.  This means if you run 64 cpu hungry processes in a terminal window ( which make -j64 tries to do ) thiat patch will stop them from totally hogging the cpu from other tasks, thus keeping the rest of the system responsive.  If you aren't doing somelike as stupid as running make -j64, then it won't do anything for you.
[04:03] <ohsix> in the interface declaration in dhclient.conf; nm-applet already has a gui box for it if that's what you're using
[04:03] <dr3af> psusi: Ok,thank you for the info my friend :)
[04:04] <ohsix> Rommel_: i'm partial to the xonar cards
[04:04] <machogeek> ohsix: eth0 dosen't appear w/ in the gui box
[04:04] <Snowdrift> application writes /dev/dsp : No such file or directory.
[04:05] <Rommel_> I was looking at that
[04:05] <Rommel_> Was it a fuss to install?
[04:05] <psusi> dr3af, Phoronix posted on his blog "oh my god, look what a difference it makes in the responsiveness of the rest of the desktop when I run make -j64!" and a lot of his readers were mislead into thinking that "it makes everything faster!"
[04:05] <ohsix> machogeek: it shows the mac address of it, and in "auto" connections it shows the name in the connection name, the client id is on the ipv4 settings page
[04:06] <Rommel_> Ideally I might go something that lasts the distance, such as Creative X-Fi pro... just reading around how it works on Ubuntu now... its a USB soundcard, interesting lol
[04:06] <ohsix> psusi: responsiveness isn't really expounded in talk of "faster"
[04:06] <dr3af> psusi: So thats explain it nice. Maybe my "source" was a reader of phoronix guy :D
[04:07] <drc> dr3af: read it for yourself http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[04:07] <ohsix> Rommel_: creative might be a strong name, but that's about all it is
[04:07] <machogeek> ohsix:  i have to manually enter it for it to appear in the list
[04:07] <Rommel_> ha
[04:07] <dr3af> drc: thank you :)
[04:07] <machogeek> ohsix: after i enter it, the client id dosen't take upon resetart
[04:08] <drc> dr3af: np
[04:08] <Rommel_> I think I might go with the Creative one afterall tho
[04:08] <machogeek> ohsix: ah, i think you just helped big time w/ that htpd.conf file
[04:08] <ohsix> before vista they actually had a lock on eax, and you either had a creative card or no eax
[04:08] <drc> dr3af: that's what FOSS is all about, make your own choice :)
[04:08] <machogeek> ohsix: fingers crossed
[04:08] <Rommel_> Purely cause the USB portability would be good as I move between a lappy/computer but at the same desk
[04:09] <Rommel_> Reading around on ubuntu forums seems its easy to get working
[04:09] <dr3af> drc: well,i wont "make" anything so i dont need that patch!
[04:09] <Rommel_> Just have to ensure right packages are there using ALSA
[04:10] <J_C> here is one quote from a tester of the patch: "It's not so much a performance boost than it is better balancing of resources. Your computer is not any faster, but it will distribute CPU power more evenly so that everything will *feel* faster."
[04:10] <R-Touch> why... why are they looking to use unity?
[04:10] <R-Touch> it looks terrible
[04:10] <ohsix> Rommel_: you might have less trouble from a usb device from another vendor
[04:10] <dr3af> is the beta of 11.04 out? or any link to the schedule?
[04:10] <J_C> R-Touch: It looks like they are going after the Mac OS X look and feel
[04:10] <ohsix> R-Touch: looks are a subjective thing
[04:11] <ohsix> you can be sure they're not doing it for looks
[04:11] <R-Touch> does unity actually look or feel like mac os x?
[04:11] <rww> R-Touch: no
[04:11] <R-Touch> it looked more like a shitty and simplistic menu system
[04:11] <rww> !natty | dr3af
[04:11] <J_C> marketing, too, it's not bad on a netbook
[04:11] <dr3af> rww: i know that,i just asked if the beta is out...
[04:12] <ohsix> wait, you're complaining about how it looks but don't know what it looks like?
[04:12] <J_C> R-Touch: but just about prfect for a small screen netbook, once all the bugs are worked out
[04:12] <redshift> hmm
[04:12] <drc> dr3af: nope, just A2, iirc
[04:12] <R-Touch> ohsix: i've seen one screenshot ... i wasn't impressed to say the least
[04:12] <ohsix> R-Touch: good job guy
[04:12] <J_C> R-Touch: have you used it?
[04:13] <Rommel_> well name another vendor
[04:13] <J_C> I'm not promoting it, I just see some of the usefullness
[04:13] <ohsix> i'm pretty sure this is offtopic anyways
[04:13] <klj613-> im sure i formated my memory stick as NTFS but in properties (ubuntu) it says its msdos filesystem?
[04:13] <soreau> R-Touch: Since gnome-shell hasn't proven to be very good, they decided to implement unity with compiz
[04:13] <erikaflusa> hi all
[04:13] <Rommel_> The only soundcards I can find that are Creative and the ASUS Xonar
[04:13] <cba123> I have a drive that isn't being mounted.  It is ext
[04:13] <R-Touch> ohsix: well, i came in here looking to find out more about it as well .. i'll be the first to admit i'm pretty ignorant about unity
[04:13] <erikaflusa> i have question
[04:13] <komputer6> hi all
[04:13] <erikaflusa> on ubuntu 10.10 install
[04:13] <komputer6> gimana kabar semua..?
[04:13] <ohsix> R-Touch: get a livecd and take it for a ride, or install it on your existing install of ubuntu
[04:13] <dr3af> erikaflusa: make your question in one line please :)
[04:14] <komputer6> ubuntu siip
[04:14] <drc> dr3af: March 31st – Beta 1 with B2 two weeks later and the release two weeks later than that
[04:14] <J_C> R-Touch: if you're familiar with Mac OS X you will see a lot of similiarities in attempted llok and feel
[04:14] <J_C> look
[04:14] <erikaflusa> SQUASHFS error
[04:14] <dr3af> drc: thank you again :)
[04:14] <R-Touch> alright ... there's a livecd specifically for unity though?
[04:14] <uRock> Ubuntu is better than OS X
[04:14] <drc> dr3af: yw
[04:14] <erikaflusa> im not sure what it means
[04:15] <erikaflusa> i have live cd in system
[04:15] <ohsix> Rommel_: i usually go to zzounds or musicians choice to find brands; the rest are passable chinese outfits
[04:15] <erikaflusa> unable to read page block beed91
[04:15] <R-Touch> os x is highly overrated so i'm tempted to agree
[04:15] <ohsix> uRock: is that assertion the result of some empyrical study?
[04:16] <R-Touch> the only thing i can't do (on this laptop) with ubuntu that i can with windows 7 is watch blu-rays
[04:16] <Ziber> what do i put in /etc/fstab to get an smbmount to stay put?
[04:16] <uRock> ohsix, just a fact of life
[04:16] <J_C> unity takes a little getting used to, but it's not terrible or anything
[04:16] <Rommel_> k, I'll check them out
[04:16] <Rommel_> thanks for the help
[04:16] <ohsix> uRock: your world must be a hoot with those sort of facts
[04:16] <J_C> I just happen to like gnome better
[04:16] <erikaflusa> hello
[04:16] <dr3af> erikaflusa: is the iso downloaded ok?is the media writed correctly?u can also check your ram for errors.
[04:17] <erikaflusa> yes
[04:17] <uRock> ohsix, nah, I just don't believe in overpaying for cheap hardware
[04:17] <erikaflusa> it booted up in as live cd
[04:17] <R-Touch> hrmmm... this video of unity makes it seem a lot more interesting
[04:17] <R-Touch> the only problem being is that something so animation-heavy under ubuntu is usually extremely unstable
[04:17] <ohsix> uRock: ok so it has nothing to do with osx, but your lack of money
[04:17] <erikaflusa> it says installed
[04:17] <ohsix> glad we cleared that up
[04:18] <dr3af> erikaflusa: try to burn the iso one more time,with the slowest speed
[04:18] <uRock> ohsix, that is not what I said, if their hardware breaks too often, then what good is it, please do not put words in people's mouthes
[04:18] <soreau> R-Touch: Just wait till after 11.04 release and try a live session with an open mind
[04:19] <ohsix> R-Touch: daily natty images are available here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:19] <erikaflusa> its over 2/3 done installing
[04:19] <ohsix> uRock: we're both entitled to what we loosely call facts
[04:19] <ohsix> what you have is an opinion
[04:19] <dr3af> erikaflusa: that means something is corrupted. I already told u a solution,try that and see
[04:19] <erikaflusa> geez
[04:20] <uRock> ohsix, I don't like their pricing nor their OS, I have seen two Lappies die in less than three years
[04:20] <erikaflusa> ok
[04:20] <ohsix> R-Touch: i dunno if natty is already rolling with unity though, i use classic desktop sessions still & haven't tried the nightlies
[04:20] <erikaflusa> ill try it
[04:20] <JeffCBR> How can I turn off Gnome?
[04:20] <ohsix> uRock: i've seen pigs fly, prove me wrong
[04:20] <Teddy> for some reason ubuntu alternative installer is simply ignoring my preseed file.  any suggestions?
[04:20] <R-Touch> thanks ohsix ... i'm actually looking to return to ubuntu once 11.04 is out ... windows 7 is nice and all but i am truly bored with it. i rather enjoy ubuntu
[04:20] <soreau> JeffCBR: What do you mean turn off gnome?
[04:20] <R-Touch> besides, i like to donate for open-source software
[04:21] <erikaflusa> i guess
[04:21] <JeffCBR> I want to stop Gnome.
[04:21] <uRock> ohsix, If we drink enough we will probably both see pigs fly
[04:21] <ohsix> R-Touch: right now i'm using my special mix of sw from natty in 10.10 (firefox mainly)
[04:21] <klj613-> i still cant figure out how to remount with full permissions for everyone >.<
[04:21] <securetux> Hi, i need some help. I've installed ubuntu (i've also windows 7 installed) when i boot up my pc it skips grub menu (never shows up) and boots ubuntu. I've check there is no menu.lst in the grub directoy what can i do?
[04:21] <ohsix> uRock: who's to say i didn't? the point being that empty statements of fact and anecdotes do not depict fact
[04:22] <uRock> ohsix, luckily for the user that has had these problem, the warranty was great
[04:22] <k_sze> Awwww.
[04:22] <klj613-> securetux: i think the booters for ubuntu and w7 got to be on same hard drive for a "dual boot"
[04:22] <klj613-> different partitions, but same hdd
[04:22] <k_sze> gedit doesn't seem to parse multiline here-doc correctly
[04:23] <securetux> klj613-, what should i do then?
[04:23] <ohsix> there are non-computer reasons to own a mac, too; so it's all moot
[04:23] <ohsix> k_sze: report a bug? :D
[04:23] <k_sze> oops, nvm
[04:23] <JeffCBR> Anyone? Is this a complicated thing? I can't find anything anywhere. I just want to turn off the Gnome Desktop to save system resources.
[04:23] <k_sze> a space at the end of the final delimiter.
[04:23] <uRock> ohsix, yup, people will buy what they want, and always have different experiences with it
[04:23] <klj613-> securetux: well im not sure if thats it or not. but 75% sure. i would reformat ubuntu and when it asks where to put the booter put it on same hard drive as the windows booter. but i suggest research into it or get second opinion from here
[04:24] <mister_m> could someone tell me why this library can't be found? (shell output: http://pastebin.com/yPvzhXmx)
[04:24] <chalcedony> are there things i need to know about using google earth on ubuntu 10.04? it won't zoom in like my friend's with windows7
[04:24] <securetux> klj613-,  ty!
[04:24] <uRock> chalcedony, Google Earth doesn't work as well on Linux
[04:25] <chalcedony> uRock, darn :(
[04:25] <ohsix> JeffCBR: people probably think you're trolling :] disabling gnome isn't something you can do, it's just a collection of software; some which you can remove/disable, but probably none that you _can_ will get you what you want
[04:25] <ohsix> google earth works great here
[04:25] <JeffCBR> I can't disable Gnome?
[04:25] <uRock> JeffCBR, if you want to disable gnome, then install KDE and uninstall gnome
[04:25] <chalcedony> ohsix, what did you do to make it work?
[04:25] <ohsix> chalcedony: did you use make-googleearth-package?
[04:26] <JeffCBR> I want to turn off the Desktop environment altogether.
[04:26] <ohsix> uRock: that is a non sequitur
[04:26] <gaelfx> JeffCBR: it sounds like you want the server edition
[04:26] <JeffCBR> I only access this machine via SSH and the Destop is wasting resources.
[04:26] <uRock> ohsix, how is that diferent from using their installer?
[04:26] <JeffCBR> I didn't install server edition.
[04:26] <ohsix> JeffCBR: uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <bastidrazor> JeffCBR: you can boot to text only.. in /etc/default/grub   add text in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[04:26] <ohsix> uRock: it doesn't mangle your system?
[04:27] <gaelfx> JeffCBR: well, have you given any thought to trying it out?
[04:27] <chalcedony> ohsix, no, downloaded it and dpkg
[04:27] <bastidrazor> JeffCBR: then sudo update-grub   ...also you can stop gnome now by sudo service gdm stop
[04:27] <uRock> ohsix, I may have to give it a try soon
[04:27] <ohsix> chalcedony: try the package maker
[04:27] <chalcedony> ohsix, it works but it's distant and blurry
[04:27] <gaelfx> JeffCBR: if you set up your partitions correctly, it should be easy to reinstall the server edition over the desktop version
[04:28] <ohsix> it doesn't sound like it will solve your problem, but i've never had a problem withthe built debs, of your kind or others
[04:28] <JeffCBR> gaelfx: I don't want to install the server edition.
[04:28] <ohsix> JeffCBR: the server edition is just a profile that doesn't install the desktop
[04:28] <uRock> ohsix, I haven't had issues with it, I judge it by the threads seen on UF
[04:29] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Yes, I'm aware.
[04:29] <uRock> I haven't installed it since 9.10
[04:29] <mister_m> could someone tell me why this library can't be found? (shell output: http://pastebin.com/yPvzhXmx)
[04:29] <JeffCBR> It can't possible take more time to simply turn Gnome off than reinstall the OS...
[04:29] <bastidrazor> JeffCBR: i gave you a good way to boot straight to a shell without uninstalling anything
[04:29] <ohsix> JeffCBR: you can change your system to the server version by uninstalling ubuntu-desktop + installing ubuntu-server, if thats still too much theres a package that brings in almost nothing
[04:29] <drc> JeffCBR: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43516 would help
[04:29] <JeffCBR> bastidrazor: I'd rather not mess with the bootloader.
[04:29] <coz_> mister_m,  are you compiling something?
[04:29] <gaelfx> JeffCBR: but the problem is undoing some things is a lot trickier than not having them done in the first place
[04:30] <mister_m> coz_: just trying to run dwarf fortress
[04:30] <ohsix> JeffCBR: you can stop gdm from starting, thats it; if you don't use the desktop software you can free up some space by removing it; and fix your problem
[04:30] <coz_> mister_m,  ok open synaptic package manager  hit Search and type in  libsdl   look for the    .dev pakage for that library unless it is looking for an older version....check version nnumbers available in synaptic
[04:31] <uRock> mister_m, looks like the lib isn't in the directory that the program is trying to run from, did you just install it or was it working before
[04:31] <mister_m> uRock: this is my first time trying to use it
[04:31] <JeffCBR> CifIjf4c
[04:31] <ja660k> how do i check whos connected to me on a specific port?
[04:32] <mister_m> uRock: there are no install instructions and no makefile
[04:32] <gaelfx> mister_m: is it a .bin?
[04:33] <ohsix> mister_m: you'll need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or run it from the right location
[04:33] <uRock> mister_m, that lib is in the repos, you can install via Synaptic
[04:33] <ohsix> uRock: it's already there
[04:34] <uRock> k
[04:34] <ohsix> mister_m: post the output of nm & ldd on the actual binary; it will show where it is looking for libraries
[04:34] <mister_m> ohsix: okay give me a second to figure that out
[04:36] <maheshk> my apt installer not able to download anything. It is trying to go thru my proxy but I have set it to direct internet system wide. Even chagned connection settings in synaptic pkg mgr but still same error
[04:36] <JeffCBR> It seems so weird that I can't just exit Gnome.
[04:36] <_skpl> JeffCBR, logout
[04:37] <mister_m> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/XnpUk2Vg
[04:37] <sneakyimp> hello all...anyone else have problems logging into ubuntuforums.org??
[04:37] <gaelfx> sneakyimp: no problems here
[04:37] <mister_m> ohsix: I have libsdl1.2debian-all installed
[04:38] <JeffCBR> Ok, it's at the "login" screen.
[04:38] <sneakyimp> mister_m: i requested a new password, login repeatedly, get 'thanks for logging in' and then it redirects me to blank login page
[04:38] <ohsix> JeffCBR: thats gdm
[04:38] <JeffCBR> if I kill gdm?
[04:38] <mister_m> ohsix: (I'm on debian but no one is in a helpful mood over there)
[04:39] <ohsix> JeffCBR: it will respawn, you want to stop it and tell upstart to not start it at all on boot
[04:39] <ohsix> mister_m: does "df" set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[04:40] <drc> JeffCBR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1370785
[04:40] <mister_m> ohsix: nope
[04:40] <mister_m> ohsix: I'll make a post on their forums
[04:40] <JeffCBR> ohsix: It didn't respawn. :D
[04:41] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: if the object is just to free up some space and fix something, why not uninstall/purge ubuntu-desktop & then re-install it when you get done?
[04:41] <l1nuxman> how to control alt delete ?
[04:42] <droidftw> whats the password when you type "su" in terminal
[04:42] <JeffCBR> Chipzzz: I just want the machine to run quicker when I don't need Gnome.
[04:42] <Omen_20> wth. I cant download the list of channels for Freenode.
[04:42] <BlueBomber7> droidftw: The password for root. In Ubuntu you probably shouldn't be switching to the root user that way...
[04:42] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: did you try ctrl-alt-f1?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> !root | droidftw
[04:42] <sneakyimp> mister_m: is there anyone I can contact?  I simply cannot login...password reset notwitstanding
[04:43] <droidftw> !root
[04:43] <ohsix> JeffCBR: it won't run any quicker if you just stop gdm
[04:44] <Chipzzz> true... gdm doesn't have much overhead unless it's actually doing something
[04:45] <ohsix> if its not touched for ages & pushedout it'll only idle living in swap too
[04:47] <JeffCBR> Any command to monitor cpu and memory usage?
[04:47] <droidftw> how come there is root on android which is linux based but there isnt on ubuntu
[04:48] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR top
[04:48] <JeffCBR> droidftw: root is sorta just turned off.
[04:48] <droidftw> jeffcbr: oh
[04:49] <JeffCBR> You can turn it on, but there isn't really a need to. It's kinda an Ubuntu thing.
[04:49] <ki__> droidftw: use sudo
[04:49] <JeffCBR> !root
[04:49] <ki__> lol
[04:49] <ki__> 'realise the truth'
[04:49] <wolfy_> lol
[04:49] <_skpl> :)
[04:50] <avis-> :/
[04:50] <JeffCBR> haha I'm breaking stuff...
[04:50] <wolfy_> ):'(
[04:50] <JeffCBR> I've got a stuck Gnome on one terminal.
[04:50] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: Uh oh! Which stuff?
[04:50] <JeffCBR> Two terminals that are useless.
[04:51] <JeffCBR> Chipzzz: Nothing permanent, hopefully.
[04:51] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: Whew!
[04:51] <JeffCBR> Ok, so what does Ctrl+Alt+F1 really do?
[04:51] <JeffCBR> It gave me a login:
[04:51] <wolfy_> im very new to ubuntu and one recommend things to download in the ubuntu software centre?
[04:51] <JeffCBR> But, I suspect that everything that was running still is.
[04:52] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: That's what it does... gives you a terminal session
[04:52] <ohsix> JeffCBR: smem & htop
[04:52] <amit> how to login as root through terminal?
[04:52] <binay> su
[04:52] <maco> amit: sudo -i
[04:52] <iflema> amit: sudo <command>   if ya must   sudo -i
[04:53]  * JeffCBR just discovered F8 in byobu.
[04:53] <amit> thanx buddies i was missing -
[04:53] <ohsix> JeffCBR: it doesn't give you a terminal session, it switches to another vty
[04:53] <ohsix> X lives on vty7 typically, and there are getty's on 1-7
[04:54] <ohsix> getty's use memory OMG
[04:54] <JeffCBR> gettysS
[04:54] <blackxored> hello guys
[04:54] <blackxored> I was here around some similar matter about two days ago
[04:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Are there any apps in the repos that can download all the images that show up in a google image search result?
[04:55] <JeffCBR> What are Getty's?
[04:55] <J_C> tty's
[04:55] <ohsix> LinuxGuy2009: all? no; visible ... maybe the cached version, i don't think theres a general purpose script
[04:55] <JeffCBR> !tty
[04:55] <J_C> terminals
[04:55] <blackxored> Here's the thing, what it came too so far, I'm using a openvpn connection both at work and outside work through dialup, the thing is whenenver i'm on dialup i experience huge packet losses, over my ISP's routing I almost experience none, so it's definitely the VPN, maybe I'm doing something wrong, maybe I'm missing something, or maybe it's the way it's supposed to be, does anybody have a clue on it???
[04:55] <JeffCBR> Ok, I'm getting somewhere. :D
[04:56] <ohsix> JeffCBR: getty's are what run on tty's that'll give you a chance to log in
[04:56] <cntb> switch keyb layout should b eput  again eeuu lam etc. how to have it on startup?
[04:56] <J_C> think get tty
[04:56] <JeffCBR> gnome is definitely dead now. :D
[04:56] <brandon420> BlackBinary,serious question. why you still using dialup?
[04:56] <J_C> why is Gnome dead?
[04:56] <DaGeek247> hai hilarie!
[04:57] <blackxored> brandon420: I assume wrong nick, that was for me, well it's the way i've got to access outside work, I ask myself the same question every single minute ;)
[04:57] <ohsix> JeffCBR: gdm might be
[04:57] <DaGeek247> goodbye gnome...
[04:57] <Taffy> when i download off the ubuntu web site (i downloaded 10.10 64-bit for a different pc) where does it save it as i'm low on diskspace with this pc
[04:57] <brandon420> blackxored, so it works fine while your at work, but not while you are at home?
[04:58] <brandon420> and it was the wrong nick
[04:58] <brandon420> lol
[04:58] <J_C> I do't see gdm dead, huge DoD support due to smart card login capabiliy
[04:58] <DaGeek247> Taffy hat OS/browser?
[04:58] <JeffCBR> gdm is long since killed.
[04:58] <Vanden_X> Hey people, could anyone help me with an issue I'm having with skype and audacity not picking up audio, despite ubuntu detecting it fine? It's just not recording anything.
[04:58] <J_C> where?
[04:58] <cryptodira> is there any way to revert a farkled top panel to the pristine condition found after a fresh install of 10.04 WITHOUT having to do a fresh install?
[04:58] <DaGeek247> *what
[04:58] <blackxored> brandon420: at work it works smoothly because it's obviously faster, my point is at this dialup connection when I use my ISP's routing I have no packets loss, when I switch the traffic to the VPN I have huges
[04:59] <DaGeek247> crypdtodaria yes
[04:59] <ohsix> Vanden_X: open the volume control properties and make sure you're recording the right inputs & your card profile is set to allow recording
[04:59] <JeffCBR> Ideally, I'd like this machine to boot to tty1.
[04:59] <Pecvitir> hello everyone
[04:59] <JeffCBR> Then, I'd like Gnome to be just "startx" away.
[04:59] <Taffy> hat OS/browser? huh
[04:59] <DaGeek247> *what
[04:59] <J_C> JeffCBR: change to init 3
[04:59] <DaGeek247> Taffy do you use IE?
[05:00] <J_C> instead of init 5
[05:00] <blackxored> JeffCBR: sysv-rc-conf gdm disable
[05:00] <J_C> runlevel
[05:00] <Taffy> DaGeek: no firefow
[05:00] <Chipzzz> Taffy: I think by default firfox downloads to ~/Downloads
[05:00] <BlackWeb> The fonts on my applications that i launched are all whited it out, wondering if anyone has experienced this before
[05:00] <ohsix> blackxored: most vpn (maybe all) will be seriously hampered by running over dialup
[05:00] <BlackWeb> and a quick fix
[05:00] <Taffy> k thx
[05:00] <blackxored> ohsix: well it's basically the only way I've got to accessing my work's resources
[05:00] <ohsix> blackxored: they use udp or tunnel packet formats that do not tolerate dialup at all
[05:00] <J_C> vpn's over dialup are very unreliable
[05:00] <brandon420> blackxored, sorry man, idk. my first thought would be your isp. but you said its fine while not using the vpn, so im kinda lost.
[05:00] <blackxored> the main question is what do I do about it
[05:01] <cntb> switch keyb layout should b eput  again eeuu lam etc. how to have it on startup?
[05:01] <J_C> not much
[05:01] <Loshki> J_C: JeffCBR: the runlevel stuff doesn't really work in ubuntu. You could try switching off gdm, but I've had sound problems when doing so...
[05:01] <blackxored> ohsix, J_C: what can I do? if anything?
[05:01] <ohsix> blackxored: i don't think theres anything you can do, back in the dialup days people had you dial into the office to get at work stuff
[05:01] <J_C> ubuntu server defaults to runlevel 3 with no probs with sound, just my experience
[05:02] <JeffCBR> I'm not really concerned with sound.
[05:02] <ohsix> J_C: pulse and consolekit are in play if gdm is running
[05:02] <JeffCBR> There won't be anything but power and network plugged into this machine.
[05:02] <_skpl> how can i make ubuntu show output during startup?
[05:02] <blackxored> somehow I believe there's something else involved, I mean it's not like is always loosing packets, it happens on differnt internvals
[05:02] <tprow> hello
[05:03] <tprow> why does Xorg freeze my machine when I start it?
[05:03] <tprow> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[05:03] <tprow> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[05:03] <J_C> blackxored: there is not much that I'm aware of, don't forget all the data is encrypted which slows things down tremendoulsly, vpn are designed for relatively fast connections
[05:03] <ohsix> _skpl: in grub, follow the instructions at the bottom of the screen to edit the command line, remove "quiet" from it
[05:03] <Chipzzz> tprow: try starting in recovery mode & then safe graphics mode
[05:04] <ohsix> _skpl: grub is the thing that shows the menu at boot
[05:04] <tprow> Chipzzz: that is not good enough
[05:04] <ecinx> how can i fix my fonts? they are barely readable
[05:04] <tprow> I need full 3D acceleration
[05:04] <tprow> I had it under Ubuntu 8.04.4
[05:04] <blackxored> Ok, then anybody knows about a way? (Which i don't think so, which is pretty basically what vpn's are for) to get encryption and accessing to a private LAN from the outside?
[05:04] <ohsix> tprow: you might not get it with an i8xx chipset
[05:04] <ecinx> i don't understand the configure antialiasing options in system settings , application appearance (KDE)
[05:04] <_skpl> ohsix, i dont have a grub menu at startup
[05:04] <Chipzzz> tprow: failsafe graphics doesn't work either?
[05:05] <tprow> ohsix: but it worked with Ubuntu 8.04.4
[05:05] <ohsix> tprow: or you might need to just stick with 8.04
[05:05] <tprow> Chipzzz: it does
[05:05] <gordian> hey guys, im receiving an error in xrandr 'configure crtc failed', any way around this? I just need 720p again! =(
[05:05] <tprow> and it says: i810
[05:05] <JeffCBR> blackxored: How do I reverse sysv-rc-conf gdm disable?
[05:05] <tprow> I guess I'd better just remove i915_drv.so
[05:05] <ohsix> tprow: try asking about i8xx in #intel-gfx
[05:05] <DaGeek247> ecinx choose a better font?
[05:05] <Loshki> blackxored: well, there's ssh, the poor man's vpn...
[05:05] <J_C> how about ssh?
[05:05] <ohsix> JeffCBR: try enable
[05:05] <blackxored> JeffCBR: like enable? :P
[05:05] <JeffCBR> Figured... wanted to make sure.
[05:05] <JeffCBR> :P
[05:05] <blackxored> Loshki, J_C: I've though about it in the past, kind of tricky to set it up right?
[05:05]  * JeffCBR never assumes.
[05:06] <ecinx> the font looks good on my laptop, not my dekstop the font is 'ubuntu'
[05:06] <J_C> blackxored: it depends on the connection usage. VPN's are encapulated and encrypted which is a lot of "overhead". straight ssh workks ok if you only need termibal access
[05:06] <J_C> terminal
[05:06] <Senjai> BlackBinary, Very easy to set up ssh.
[05:06] <iflema> !nox | _skpl hold shift at/on boot to get the menu
[05:06] <Senjai> blackxored, Very easy to set up ssh.
[05:07] <J_C> ssh isn't tricky, not too much anyway.
[05:07] <ohsix> JeffCBR: there are manual pages for most anything, if you want to know things
[05:07] <Senjai> !ssh | blackxored
[05:07] <J_C> run the sshd daemon on the server and connect using "ssh"
[05:07] <Loshki> blackxored: more work on the client side than the setup for vpn I'd say if you need udp support....
[05:07] <blackxored> don't tell what ssh is
[05:07] <DaGeek247> ecinx just try it and see if it does anything. the fonts can change in detail according to the screensize.
[05:07] <blackxored> a VPN through ssh is tricky
[05:07] <J_C> the first time it will ask you if you want to connect due to unknown keys, after that, no prob
[05:07] <Senjai> Nope, not really.
[05:08] <blackxored> ok guys there are some pointers?
[05:08] <Senjai> Just install openssh on the computer you want to connect to
[05:08] <J_C> !sshd
[05:08] <ohsix> Senjai: dialup is in play, vpn untenable
[05:08] <J_C> !ssh
[05:08] <blackxored> Senjai: it's already there obviously
[05:08] <Chipzzz> tprow: is it lucid?
[05:08] <DaGeek247> J_C, stop
[05:09] <tprow> Chipzzz: it's lucid yeah
[05:09] <tprow> lucid dream
[05:09] <J_C> I  have used putty with ssh/X forwarding over a modem before, but it is slow as molassas
[05:09] <tprow> a dream so lucid it won't work right
[05:09] <Chipzzz> tprow: Have you seen this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[05:09] <J_C> stop what?
[05:09] <blackxored> J_C: I don't want X, I want tunneling
[05:09] <J_C> ssh
[05:09] <blackxored> I found it, let me try it for that matters
[05:09] <J_C> tunneling over a modem is slow, period
[05:10] <tprow> Chipzzz: thank you
[05:10] <JeffCBR> Yuck. On mIRC until Ubuntu reboots.
[05:10] <ohsix> you'll at best get access via proxy to web resources at work; it works but it's nothing like a vpn
[05:10] <J_C> it can be done, but not satisfactorally
[05:10] <Chipzzz> tprow: glad to help
[05:10] <Loshki> blackxored: many people use ssh for tunneling X apps. See also freenx which is said to be faster for that...
[05:10] <tprow> ugh...I have to exit irssi due to me running su <user> -c irssi in single user mode...
[05:10] <JeffCBR> blackxored: It looks like that may have worked. :D
[05:11] <JeffCBR> tprow: Try byobu
[05:11] <J_C> "ssh -X" will forward x through a ssh tunnel, but it is slow over a modem. Better than a VPN though
[05:11] <blackxored> JeffCBR: ???
[05:11] <blackxored> Loshki: tried freenx on the past, on a faster connection, it really rocked
[05:11] <blackxored> J_C: I meant i didn't needed X
[05:11] <JeffCBR> blackxored: Were you the one who helped me disable gdm?
[05:11] <BlackWeb> Has anyone experienced the fonts on some of the applications to not be visible
[05:12] <blackxored> JeffCBR: I wrote the command yes
[05:12] <BlackWeb> trying to solve it but with not luck
[05:12] <J_C> blackxored: best to say exactly what you need?
[05:12] <blackxored> J_C: I want encryption, port forwarding and a gateway to my work's private LAN
[05:12] <J_C> for smb? X/ or just a term?
[05:12] <trackstar> Hi all. Kind of a n00b question but I just hooked up my ubuntu pc to my new TV with an HDMI cable (from an on-board HDMI port) and am disappointed that it didn't automatically detect the new display. is there a trick to getting this to work?
[05:13] <blackxored> JeffCBR: what about it?
[05:13] <ohsix> trackstar: are you using kubuntu?
[05:13] <JeffCBR> Ok, actually, that didn't work, blackxored... reboot and it's back.
[05:13] <trackstar> ohsix, no
[05:13] <ohsix> try xrandr --auto in a terminal
[05:13] <blackxored> JeffCBR: umm weird
[05:14] <Loshki> trackstar: you might ask on #mythtv-users. They have tons of experience hooking tvs up to pcs...
[05:14] <blackxored> JeffCBR: I actually don't advise this but try update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[05:14] <trackstar> ohsix, "Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[05:14] <trackstar> Loshki, okay, thanks
[05:15] <ohsix> Loshki: they'll have you butcher your install too ;]
[05:15] <trackstar> Maybe I should just restart.
[05:15] <JeffCBR> blackxored: That doesn't work in 10.10 due to some change.
[05:15] <JeffCBR> Thanks, though.
[05:15] <Loshki> ohsix: In that case, we can butcher your install right here...
[05:15] <J_C> http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[05:16] <JeffCBR> What can I grep to see what processes are running for gdm to work?
[05:16] <JeffCBR> ps -e | grep tty7 shows only Xorg.
[05:16] <Loshki> J_C: note that levels 3 thru 5 are the same as level 2...
[05:17] <ohsix> trackstar: if you open the monitor applet from system -> preferences does it detect them all
[05:18] <J_C> Loshki: no they are different, classic UNIX is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[05:19] <freakabcd> hi all
[05:19] <ohsix> trackstar: xrandr is the ultimate arbiter, if it can't see anything on the connection then you probably need to debug that and the desktop stuff is working as expected
[05:19] <iflema> !nox | JeffCBR
[05:19] <J_C> runlevel 2 starts without networks, runlevel 3 is network + multi-user, runlevel 45 is X
[05:19] <JeffCBR> iflema, that will prevent the processes from even starting?
[05:19] <Loshki> J_C: I believe debian broke^H^H^H^H^H changed the runlevel stuff, and most of the derived distros inherited it..
[05:19] <J_C> 5, I mean
[05:19] <ohsix> J_C: that might be convention, but you can have them do whatever you want
[05:19] <J_C> could be
[05:19] <freakabcd> my laptop is running 10.04 Lucid now. What is the easiest way to upgrade to 10.10 Maverick ?
[05:20] <J_C> but not standard
[05:20] <yahooeny> hey I have my own problem too; after something went wrong with my package manager, and java not restarting, I restarted my PC, and could no longer log in. There was a message saying "The Gnome power settings defaults were incorrectly installed. See System admin"...
[05:20] <ohsix> freakabcd: update-manager, it should say maverick is available
[05:20] <JeffCBR> sudo shutdown 0
[05:20] <freakabcd> i wanted to go straight to 11.04 Natty, but i gather the repos aren;t really ready with all the packages
[05:20] <Chipzzz> Loshki: you mean about the change to upstart?
[05:20] <ohsix> freakabcd: not to mention it's only february :]
[05:20] <maco> freakabcd: you cant skip 10.10 on your way to natty, but we would welcome more alpha testers
[05:20] <freakabcd> ohsix: well, i ran the kubuntu live disc. and it was rocking!
[05:21] <ohsix> if that's your threshold for rockin' gnome must put you in a coma
[05:21] <Loshki> Chipzzz: yes, I think it was the upstart stuff that did it...
[05:21] <freakabcd> maco: only thing i'm afraid of is that i might lose use of some of the packages due to them being missing/etc. on natty repos
[05:21] <J_C> ohsix: of course you can, just change your rc.x directories, but there is a difference by default, generally
[05:21] <trackstar> ohsix, any idea what that error means? "Failed to get size of gamma for output default"? If it helps I used to have an LCD monitor and a CRT tv (hooked up by s-video) on this pc, then I got rid of the monitor and it was just the CRT ... now there's the other TV by HDMI too
[05:22] <freakabcd> ohsix: indeed. i sometimes feel using gnome makes me lethargic
[05:22] <freakabcd> strange as it may seem
[05:22] <ohsix> trackstar: its just a message, it shouldn't be an error
[05:22] <JeffCBR> when you shutdown, does it hang at the ubuntu splash?
[05:22] <maco> freakabcd: packages are generally only removed if they are unmaintained or have been having build failures for over a year
[05:22] <Chipzzz> Loshki: the runlevels still work, they are just managed and executed differently now
[05:22] <maco> freakabcd: (more like two years)
[05:22] <uRock> I wish they'd remove firestarter
[05:22] <freakabcd> maco: wow. so basically all the packages are already built for natty?
[05:22] <cntb> i  feel Imaybe pushing my luck already have realplayer11 installed - in mac and pc it adds downloader inyoutube and convertor what abiut linux inthis aspect
[05:23] <maco> freakabcd: of course! we're at alpha 2!
[05:23] <freakabcd> sweet
[05:23] <freakabcd> i will update-manager to 10.10 and then update-manager to 11.04 ?
[05:23] <ohsix> freakabcd: damn straight; working software is boring as hell
[05:23] <maco> freakabcd: well i mean in the first place, they are simply copied over from maverick to start. then we sync anything of which there are new versions from debian during the first 2 weeks
[05:23] <mneptok> freakabcd: you cannot go from 10.04 straight to 11.04
[05:23] <maco> freakabcd: to get from 10.10 to 11.04, youd do "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[05:23] <maco> mneptok: not what freakabcd said, so its ok :)
[05:24] <Loshki> Chipzzz: My point is that you can't turn off X11 in standard ubuntu simply by changing the runlevel as you can in other distros
[05:24] <uRock> or break sources.list
[05:24] <freakabcd> maco: thats what i said 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 :D
[05:24] <J_C> Loshki: exactly
[05:24] <mneptok> maco: read again: 22:19 < freakabcd> my laptop is running 10.04 Lucid now. What is the easiest way to upgrade to 10.10 Maverick ?
[05:24] <maco> mneptok: scroll farther down
[05:24] <freakabcd> thanks. now i shall update tp 10.10 first
[05:24] <ohsix> Loshki: not that that's a useful statement anyways; you want to disable it, and possibly set what runlevel it actually runs at
[05:24] <uRock> freakabcd, a clean install would be easier
[05:24] <maco> mneptok: <freakabcd> i will update-manager to 10.10 and then update-manager to 11.04 ?
[05:24] <Chipzzz> Loshki: Ah... sorry
[05:25] <ohsix> i suggest running stuff in a virtual machine before upgrading
[05:25] <J_C> but it can still be done without removing gdm
[05:25] <JeffCBR> Ok, the "text" in grub did it! Thanks.
[05:25] <JeffCBR> And sorry to whoever told me that earlier and I ignored them.
[05:25] <maco> JeffCBR: "text" is not actually a valid instruction. it's just the lack of "quiet splash" that does it
[05:26] <ohsix> you didn't ignore them, you said you didn't want to mess with your bootloader
[05:26] <JeffCBR> i left quite splash...
[05:26] <JeffCBR> just added text to the end
[05:26] <J_C> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22498/how-to-auto-boot-into-text-mode
[05:26] <freakabcd> i have lucid-bleed ppa enabled
[05:26] <ohsix> ugh
[05:26] <freakabcd> is there also maverick-bleed ppa ?
[05:27] <ohsix> be sure to ppa-purge any ppa's you have installed before doing an upgrade
[05:27] <freakabcd> ohsix: ok. i will run ppa-purge
[05:27] <maco> JeffCBR: oh. well thats interesting....
[05:27] <iflema> JeffCBR: its just the way to disable gnome *not* the other way....
[05:28] <AbhijiT> hello!!!! :)
[05:28] <JeffCBR> Ok...
[05:28] <JeffCBR> I think I'm ready to unplug the mouse, keyboard, and monitor and toss this thing is the closet. :D
[05:29] <droidftw> do i have to wipe my whole hardrive to upgrade when 11.04 comes out
[05:29] <ohsix> no
[05:30] <J_C> no
[05:30] <droidftw> what do i do
[05:30] <JeffCBR> is there a command to remotely restart the system?
[05:30] <ohsix> restart?
[05:30] <JeffCBR> shutdown 0 seems to leave it running.
[05:30] <J_C> personally I would follow the upgrade instructions on Ubuntu's site
[05:30] <maco> JeffCBR: sudo reboot
[05:30] <ohsix> or shutdown -r now
[05:31] <AbhijiT> !upgrade | droidftw
[05:31] <JeffCBR> how about to power down?
[05:31] <ohsix> shutdown -h now
[05:31] <ohsix> you might want to look into suspending, and enabling wake on lan
[05:31] <J_C> -r = reboot, -h = halt
[05:31] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Good idea.
[05:31] <ohsix> instead of shutting it down you can suspend it, and wake it up from the network
[05:31] <maco> JeffCBR: if shutdown -h doesnt actually power off, you need to add -p
[05:32] <JeffCBR> omg!
[05:32] <maco> JeffCBR: usually only old hardware should need that though
[05:32] <uRock> JeffCBR, sudo poweroff
[05:32] <freakabcd> any idea how much space i need on / for the upgrade to be successful?
[05:32] <maco> freakabcd: a gig-ish?
[05:32] <freakabcd> update-manager says it will download 1.5GB and i have 1.7GB free on /
[05:32] <ohsix> or broken bioses on new hardware :D if its broken though, a lot of other stuff will be too
[05:32] <JeffCBR> Do I have to hold shift every time for the grub solution to work?!
[05:32] <freakabcd> is that extra space enough?
[05:32] <maco> JeffCBR: you can make it permanent
[05:32] <maco> freakabcd: should be. to get more "sudo apt-get clean"
[05:32] <uRock> ohsix, when using sudo poweroff?
[05:32] <freakabcd> okies
[05:33] <maco> JeffCBR: edit /etc/default/grub to have the change you want, then run sudo update-grub
[05:33] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: to shutdown it's sudo shutdown -P now
[05:33] <gaelfx> freakabcd: well, if that's all it's downloading, then unpacking will probably be more, so not really
[05:33] <JeffCBR> shutdown -h worked. :D
[05:33] <BlackWeb> would anyone know how to make fonts on k3b be visible
[05:34] <_skpl> can someone help me? my grub menu had dissapeared and my system goes straight to ubuntu
[05:35] <_skpl> to the desktop i mean
[05:35] <JeffCBR> how do i make changes to grub permanent?
[05:35] <_skpl> the file /boot/grub/menu.lst seems to be missing
[05:35] <freakabcd> gaelfx: unpacking happens in-place
[05:35] <o2oo> hi
[05:36] <uRock> _skpl, sudo update-grub
[05:36] <freakabcd> i.e. it doesn;t unpack in a tmp dir and then remove the old stuff
[05:36] <freakabcd> iirc it simply unpacks over the old stuff
[05:36] <Chipzzz> JeffCBR: edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[05:36] <erikaflusa> hi all
[05:36] <freakabcd> correct me if i am wrong, please
[05:36] <_skpl> uRock: i already tried that, still no grub menu
[05:36] <erikaflusa> how i find wine in ubuntu 10.10
[05:36] <uRock> hi erikaflusa
[05:36] <uRock> _skpl, k
[05:36] <london5634> guys i need help...every time before i log in(in other words when i am on the gdm login screen)  a window pops up automatically and takes me to the Appearance Preferences menu,in other words it assumes i want to change the theme,wallpaper extc. how can i disbale this.its very annoying.. i tried looking for any unusual startup programs but nothing,in fact it start before i even login to the gnome desktop enviroment...
[05:36] <erikaflusa> i installed wine
[05:36] <iflema> _skpl: hold   shift   just before where it should be!?!?!?   grub2 now... no menu.list anymore.
[05:37] <_skpl> iflema: oh ok
[05:37] <luxurymode> how can i quickly find out where ant installed to? im having some trouble setting up an ant. a little confused about how to JAVA_HOME
[05:37] <_skpl> im trying aupdate-grub2, i'll see if that works
[05:37] <uRock> london5634, sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[05:37] <avis-> i would like to know how to create a proper init script in order to issue a sudo openvpn thisvpn.opvn and have that task run in the background, can anyone help me do those tasks, all my opvn files are in /etc/openvpn/ and there is also a corresponding /etc/openvpn/ssl/ directory, if anyone could assist me with this, i would love you as long as humanly possible, brotherly or sisterly, correspondingly.
[05:37] <avis-> that'd be on boot
[05:38] <london5634> let me try it Urock
[05:38] <avis-> setting timer for 15 minutes
[05:39] <_skpl> still no grub menu
[05:39] <_skpl> after update-grub2
[05:40] <cntb> what is apopular flv player in ubuntu? totem?
[05:40] <uRock> vlc
[05:40] <Chipzzz> _skpl: what version are you running?
[05:41] <_skpl> Chipzzz: 10.10
[05:41] <Chipzzz> _skpl: try update-grub
[05:41] <_skpl> i seem to remember it dissaperaing after i tried an alternate 11.04 install
[05:41] <_skpl> Chipzzz: i did, as well as update-grub2, neither one worked.
[05:42] <thethinker> how do i control a win xp home computer from ubuntu 10.10?
[05:42] <erikaflusa> hey how i find wine on 10.10
[05:42] <Chipzzz> is your /etc/default/grub file ok?
[05:42] <uRock> !pm | erikaflusa
[05:42] <Datz> thethinker: try vnc
[05:42] <Datz> !vnc | thethinker
[05:42] <_skpl> Chipzzz: i dunno, let me check.
[05:42] <erikaflusa> what urock
[05:42] <uRock> !pm | erikaflusa
[05:42] <thethinker> Datz: on the xp computer?
[05:43] <Chipzzz> _skpl: that's what update-grub uses to build the grub menu
[05:43] <Datz> thethinker: vnc is a remote desktop
[05:43] <uRock> !pm > erikaflusa
[05:43] <trackstar> So I switched my BIOS to use the onboard HDMI as the primary display and not the video card, but since ubuntu is not configured to use the HDMI display it doesn't boot up, and I have no choice but to restart. is there a safe mode or something I can somehow trigger?
[05:43] <JeffCBR> iflema: /etc/default/grub didn't look like I expected. What do I add and where?
[05:43] <erikaflusa> how do i find wine after i installed it
[05:44] <AbhijiT> ericm|ubuntu, in applications menu
[05:44] <_skpl> Chipzzz: here is my /etc/default/grub: http://pastebin.com/kgk5gayH
[05:44] <AbhijiT> :(
[05:44] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, in applications menu
[05:44] <erikaflusa> its not there
[05:44] <_skpl> Chipzzz: i dunno if it;s ok
[05:44] <erikaflusa> i installed it
[05:44] <freakabcd> can someone tell me where is au.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:45] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, you need to log out and log in to get menu updated. but you can also run wine from terminal just do wine <program.exe>
[05:45] <_skpl> Chipzzz: can you read it and tell me?
[05:45] <sacarlson> avis-: you could add it to crontab as @reboot sudo /usr/sbin/openvpn  --config /path/to/config/file.opvn
[05:45] <iflema> JeffCBR: the nox/text thing?? theres a bit that says.... i cant remeber... default something you should see the quiet and splash just remove and add text (/etc/default/grub)
[05:45] <Chipzzz> _skpl: checking it in a second
[05:45] <freakabcd> is it the aarnet mirror ?
[05:45] <_skpl> Chipzzz: ok, thanks
[05:45] <gh0st> is there a decompiler for ubuntu?
[05:45] <uRock> freakabcd, I am guessing they didn't pay their rent
[05:45] <erikaflusa> see i get error about exe i tell it to open with wine
[05:45] <iflema> JeffCBR: then do sudo update-grub
[05:45] <AbhijiT> freakabcd, no its australian local ubuntu repository
[05:46] <freakabcd> its not the aarnet mirror?
[05:46] <freakabcd> but they say they update daily
[05:46] <freakabcd> :(
[05:46] <JeffCBR> I'm rusty in Vi. What's the command to copy a line?
[05:46] <AbhijiT> freakabcd, not sure then
[05:46] <erikaflusa> say home  exe not marked as executable
[05:46] <familiaDias> hi
[05:47] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, you first need to manualy mark that .exe as executable
[05:47] <familiaDias> portugues?
[05:47] <avis-> sacarlson, you are awesome and wonderful thank you for that assistance
[05:47] <erikaflusa> how do i manual mark
[05:47] <iflema> freakabcd: i think it is... at least was.. look in xubuntufor 11.04??
[05:47] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, to do that right click on that file - properties - select executable
[05:47] <freakabcd> IT IS :)
[05:47] <iarp> Soooo i've got a strange issue. I've randomly been removed from the sudoers file BUT when i attach to my byobu session i can sudo anything i want. I'm afraid if i close this screen session i will lose all sudo abilitys, any ideas wth's going on?
[05:47] <freakabcd> good. because aarnet mirror is free from within uni :)
[05:48] <iflema> freakabcd: and 4 bigpond users =)
[05:48] <sacarlson> avis-: you might need to add to sudoer so you can do sudo with no password
[05:48] <void_pointer> bigpond user? People still actually use bigpond?
[05:48] <void_pointer> wow
[05:48] <erikaflusa> its eread only
[05:48] <erikaflusa> says read only
[05:48] <JoshDreamland> I'm having a difficult time getting an NVidia driver working, as usual.
[05:48] <Chipzzz> _skpl: the only diff I see between it and my own is this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[05:48] <JoshDreamland> Right now I'm in safe graphics mode.
[05:48] <void_pointer> Could be worse ... could be using bigpond AND going to U of Q
[05:48] <void_pointer> jokes, people, all jokes
[05:48] <JoshDreamland> When I run the NV control panel, it tells me the X driver isn't active, where the Additional Drivers menu says it is
[05:49] <erikaflusa> how do i change it
[05:49] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, yeah now select executable
[05:49] <_skpl> Chipzzz: could it be /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[05:49] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, in the permissions tab
[05:49] <freakabcd> void_pointer: lol biggiepond. i'm with tpg at home
[05:49] <JoshDreamland> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." So I do, and it does nothing. So I reboot, and it never leaves a purple-background text mode.
[05:49] <erikaflusa> nothing there to type in or change
[05:50] <void_pointer> freakabcd you win. ATM I'm on Virgin pre-paid mobile broadband :(
[05:50] <familiaDias> E: Impossível encontrar o pacote linux-restricted-modules-2.6.35-25-generic
[05:50] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, you dont need to type when you right click on file -> properties -> permissions tab - > bottom of the dialog box there is an option called mar it as executable select that option
[05:50] <avis-> sacarlson, do you mean add sudo to root ?
[05:51] <freakabcd> void_pointer: lol
[05:51] <Chipzzz> _skpl: no, that file is created by update-grub, which gets its info from /etc/default/grub
[05:51] <cntb> where does 10.10 netbook store flv file from youtube 2 play it?
[05:51] <freakabcd> cntb: /tmp/FlashXX....
[05:51] <AbhijiT> cntb, /home/<username/tmp *i think*
[05:51] <avis-> sacarlson, btw, i am so thankful and grateful for your assistance all references to accomplishing this on the web usually entails complicated config files for the service itself.
[05:52] <JoshDreamland> I once managed to get it to where I could log in with the driver enabled, but the damned thing disabled my display's backlight
[05:52] <cntb> thks wiil look please check in your installs
[05:52] <Chipzzz> _skpl: try changing the line I mentioned, running update-grub, and then hold down the shift key when you reboot
[05:52] <_skpl> Chipzzz: what abotu this? http://pastebin.com/th7pvXBG
[05:53] <_skpl> Chipzzz: what do i do after i hold the shift key down?
[05:53] <avis-> sacarlson, i just added sudo to root last time i did that, horrible things happened to me, good filesystems with my most valuable files, my music collection, got fubared, though its likely hopefully ever wont happen again despite me not knowing how it was done
[05:53] <iflema> cntb: firefox?? /home/<username>/.mozilla/firefox/blahblahblah/cache     thers no .flv extension (sort by size)  something like that =)
[05:53] <belzeboo> sort by date modified
[05:53] <_skpl> Chipzzz: how should i change the line in /etc/default/grub? what should it say?
[05:53] <cntb> iflema ok
[05:53] <Fudge> how in debian would you perform the ubuntu command add-apt-repository
[05:54] <erikaflusa> imm telling u
[05:54] <freakabcd> iflema: what? flash stuff goes into /tmp/FlashXX...  without .flv if you are using firefox with latest flash plugin
[05:54] <erikaflusa> im looking at permission tab
[05:54] <maco> Fudge: by editing /etc/apt/sources.list or adding a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:54] <erikaflusa> abhill
[05:54] <avis-> i do not wish to learn grub2 i like making changes in grub2 along with documentation to guide me.  grub2 isn't nearly as easy for the inexperienced grub2 user/typical grub user
[05:54] <n1k0s> Hi everyone, ubuntu apache server security question... if an ip address is trying to get non-existant file, clearly in an attempt to compromise my server, should i block that ip address in my firewall rules?
[05:54] <erikaflusa> is my ubuntu out of date
[05:55] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, which version you are using?
[05:55] <iflema> freakabcd: well tell cntb =)
[05:55]  * AbhijiT wonders who is abhilll
[05:55] <freakabcd> i told him already!
[05:55] <erikaflusa> 10.10
[05:55] <cntb> thks all foun it
[05:55] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, its supported and newest
[05:55] <erikaflusa> just installed
[05:55] <amit> how to create more than one user through terminal via one command
[05:55] <_skpl> Chipzzz: i ran a boot info script and it says i have an unknow bootloader on sda2
[05:55] <erikaflusa> no updates
[05:55] <avis-> there is a very nice working package for maverick for 64-bit flash, i can get the ppa repo should anyone desire it.  it works great.  i prefer that one to the 32-bit hack for 64-bit systems, they've done good.
[05:56] <AbhijiT> amit <first command> && <second command
[05:56] <erikaflusa> im looking at permissions
[05:56] <erikaflusa> tab
[05:56] <erikaflusa> should i reboot
[05:56] <amit> means i have to use &&
[05:56] <sacarlson> avis-: well you can add to any username so that sudo won't need a password for only certain commands so it can limit the damage
[05:56] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, and you say that there is no execubale option in permissions tab?
[05:56] <erikaflusa> correct
[05:57] <JeffCBR> any way to clear the screen at a console login screen?
[05:57] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, ok go to terminal again. cd to the directory where that file is. then do chmod +x <filename.exe>
[05:57] <AbhijiT> JeffCBR, clear
[05:57] <avis-> sacarlson, you have something there it was run as sudo so perhaps since i did a sudo crontab -e i can omit the sudo from boot job @reboot does that sound logical ?
[05:57] <JeffCBR> before logging in
[05:57] <Chipzzz> _skpl: I was just going to ask you about that... you mentioned that you upgraded and then reverted... maybe the grub that's booting is the wrong one
[05:57] <erikaflusa> wait
[05:57] <erikaflusa> im confused
[05:58] <AbhijiT> so m i
[05:58] <AbhijiT> :(
[05:58] <sacarlson> avis-: I don't play with root crontab so not sure if it would work or not but that might be another option
[05:58] <JeffCBR> Ok!
[05:58] <AbhijiT> aah he left! :(
[05:58] <_skpl> Chipzzz: how do i fix it?
[05:58] <JeffCBR> I'm finally satisfied with my Ubuntu installation!
[05:58]  * JeffCBR smiles!
[05:58] <avis-> sacarlson, heard you loud and clear thank you will make the modifications anyway to remove sudo from root user ?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> _skpl: Can you pastebin the RESULTS.txt from boot info script?
[05:59] <_skpl> jordan yeah i already did
[05:59] <_skpl> http://pastebin.com/th7pvXBG
[05:59] <FORCEGC> how can i run docky in low quality to make it go faster?
[05:59] <avis-> sacarlson, are you sure it should be @reboot or @boot is there a similar @time because if i cold boot it might not start ?
[06:00] <_skpl> Jordan_U: this started after i tried to install 11.04 from an alternate install disc
[06:00] <_skpl> instead of a grub menu i get a blinking cursor, then it loads ubuntu desktop
[06:00] <Jordan_U> _skpl: That's the normal default. Hold shift to see the menu.
[06:01] <edoceo> After upgrading I can clean old kernels out of /boot right?  Then how to re-generate the grub configs?
[06:01] <sacarlson> avis-: yes I've used @reboot many times,  you can point it at a script that adds sleep 100 or something if you think your net won't be up at the time or do some kind of ping loop to wait for it to be up
[06:01] <Jordan_U> edoceo: Remove the old kernel packages, the grub menu will be regenerated automatically when you do.
[06:01] <_skpl> Jordan_U: even though it doesnt show the icons down at the bottom? it NOTHING BUT a cursor.
[06:01] <edoceo> Jordan_U: thx!
[06:02] <_skpl> i didnt used to have to press shift to get a grub menu
[06:02] <Jordan_U> _skpl: What version of Ubuntu were you using previously?
[06:02] <_skpl> 10.10
[06:02] <_skpl> i've re-installed since then
[06:02] <_skpl> but i still dont get a grub menu
[06:02] <sorianocarlos> Hello, room of ubuntu spanish ??
[06:02] <Lasivian> hiya, anyone here have a suggestion on a usb wifi card for Ubuntu?
[06:02] <FORCEGC> 10.10 has huge issues 10.04 is where it is at
[06:03] <extra11> FORCEGG like what
[06:03] <Jordan_U> _skpl: Ubuntu 10.10 should hide the grub menu by default also, unless it detects another OS (or detects that Ubuntu didn't boot properly the last time a boot was attempted).
[06:03] <Chipzzz> _skpl: take a look at this... it's old but the principles should still apply:http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-restore-grub-with-ubuntu-live-cd.html
[06:03] <AbhijiT> Lasivian, you want to buy a ubuntu supported usb wifi?
[06:03] <Lasivian> AbhijiT: precisely! :)
[06:04] <AbhijiT> Lasivian, look here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog
[06:04] <iflema> FORCEGC: thats the whole idea behind LTS releases....
[06:04] <Lasivian> that's where i'm rummaging now
[06:04] <FORCEGC> yeah i know iflema
[06:04] <Lasivian> but, I figure this would possibly be a question that a human could answer faster :)
[06:04] <Jordan_U> _skpl: Chipzzz: Re-installing grub is not needed and will not change anything as this is the intended behavior (as far as grub goes, the splash screen after grub not working would be another issue).
[06:04] <_skpl> Jordan_U: how do i change the default so that it shows the grub menu?
[06:04] <AbhijiT> :-/
[06:05] <_skpl> i dont get a splash screen either, unless you mean the plymouth loader
[06:06] <Chipzzz> Jordan_U: it sounds like he installed another grub, uninstalled that version, but the machine is still booting to that grub
[06:06] <Chipzzz> (in another partition)
[06:07] <Jordan_U> _skpl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub%20(file)
[06:07] <_skpl> well i never uninstalled it, i just installed 10.10 over it, i never got to format the hd
[06:07] <Glutsch> lo
[06:07] <linuxuz3r> hi
[06:07] <linuxuz3r> whats a good sftp program for ubuntu
[06:08] <AbhijiT> !hardware | Lasivian try this
[06:08] <vodkanakas> i don't know i actuall just started ubuntu and have a question of my own
[06:08] <cntb> in home user folder how to create a link to another folder
[06:08] <avis-> sacarlson, again thank you and i appreciate that tip very much i never knew @reboot existed :)  have a pleasant evening, and i appreciate it
[06:08] <Chipzzz> _skpl: I would go with reinstalling grub
[06:09] <vodkanakas> i get this error when trying to update ubuntu 10.10 Failed to fetch http://76.73.4.58/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libk5crypto3_1.8.1+dfsg-5ubuntu0.4_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[06:09] <vodkanakas> Failed to fetch http://76.73.4.58/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libgssapi-krb5-2_1.8.1+dfsg-5ubuntu0.4_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[06:09] <vodkanakas> Failed to fetch http://76.73.4.58/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb5-3_1.8.1+dfsg-5ubuntu0.4_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[06:09] <vodkanakas> Failed to fetch http://76.73.4.58/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb5support0_1.8.1+dfsg-5ubuntu0.4_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[06:09] <FloodBot2> vodkanakas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:09] <erikaflusa> back
[06:09] <erikaflusa> How do i change the permissions of exe file
[06:10] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: chmod +x file.exe
[06:10] <Jordan_U> _skpl: Chipzzz: Don't bother re-installing grub. The page I linked to describes how to unhide the menu.
[06:11] <_skpl> Jordan_U: i think you are rigth, it must be detcting the failed alternate install
[06:11] <varundesai> hi friends,i am a new bie of ubuntu recently converted from windows
[06:12] <AbhijiT> hi varundesai
[06:12] <varundesai> hi abhijit
[06:12] <AbhijiT> !in | varundesai
[06:12] <AbhijiT> !manual | varundesai
[06:12] <erikaflusa> do i type that in terminal
[06:13] <ohsix> derp
[06:13] <_skpl> Jordan_U: but dont you think it od that i dont get a splash screen either?
[06:13] <vodkanakas> hello is there anyone here that could help me with an error problem when i try to update?
[06:13] <vodkanakas> it says that all 6 things are 404 not found.
[06:13] <erikaflusa> i guess i have to run 9.04 to run wine programs
[06:13] <varundesai> i downloaded the manual abhijet,i have an issue with my acer aspire one 532h,i am unable to solve it,i tried a lot
[06:14] <Chipzzz> erikaflausa: yes, or right click on the file, look at the permissions & tick 'executable'
[06:14] <AbhijiT> varundesai, ask here to channel. with all details
[06:14] <erikaflusa> cause i tried everything an cant change the permission
[06:14] <erikaflusa> can someone please help
[06:14] <Jordan_U> _skpl: The splash screen is not done by grub. Grub passes the "splash" parameter to the kernel and that's it. Since grub is already passing "splash" to the kernel re-installing grub isn't going to change anything.
[06:14] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: then use the terminal and type sudo chmod +x file.exe
[06:14] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: on what kind of media is this file?
[06:15] <ohsix> Chipzzz: that might not work depending on the filesystem
[06:15] <erikaflusa> how i do run chmod
[06:15] <AbhijiT> varundesai, 1st ask here
[06:15] <erikaflusa> exe file
[06:15] <erikaflusa> i downloaded
[06:15] <erikaflusa> wine is installed
[06:15] <erikaflusa> the hard drive
[06:15] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: because you cant do that on a read only media such as a cd or dvd or on a noexec partition
[06:16] <erikaflusa> its on my desktop
[06:16] <varundesai> i am using acer aspire one 532h,the main issue is with battery,the battery never charges upto 100 %,it takes several hours to charge,but never charge completely ,and after1 hour,a pop up will come stating battery is critically low
[06:16] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: plus you dont have to make it executable
[06:16] <varundesai> i never faced this problem in xp
[06:16] <erikaflusa> how though
[06:16] <erikaflusa> pokerstars.exe
[06:16] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: you can run it with    wine filename.exe    on a terminal
[06:16] <AbhijiT> varundesai, how old is this laptop and how old is battery?
[06:16] <erikaflusa> how  do i run wine from terminal
[06:16] <varundesai> it is just 9 months old
[06:16] <JeffCBR> whats a good text internet browser?
[06:17] <JeffCBR> Still Lynx?
[06:17] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: in that case open a terminal, cd Desktop; wine pokerstars.exe
[06:17] <BrutalSauce> hey guys im having a serious issue installing ubuntu
[06:17] <ohsix> JeffCBR: links
[06:17] <Andyman555> are there other alternatives to lynx?
[06:17] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: many poker games won't run under wine but they can run in a virtualbox windows session
[06:17] <varundesai> no issue when i am with xp,but i dont want to switch again for xp for this reason
[06:17] <Andyman555> as a good text web browser?
[06:17] <Fuchs> you might have to Adapt  Desktop to the real foldername
[06:17] <AbhijiT> erikaflusa, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-run-executable-files-139554/
[06:17] <erikaflusa> says no such directory
[06:18] <JeffCBR> is links the same as lynx?
[06:18] <AbhijiT> varundesai, which version of ubuntu
[06:18] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: use the tab key to autocomplete the foldername for you,
[06:18] <ohsix> varundesai: linux shows the real capacity of the battery, as they age they lose a few percent; and i dunno why your battery drains so fast,  but you can get an idea from powertop
[06:18] <varundesai> i tried with ubuntu 10.10 and now i am using 10.04 lts
[06:18] <Fuchs> erikaflusa: with   ls   you can list the folders and files
[06:18] <BrutalSauce> im trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop and everytime i try to install it will go to the boot screen and then crash from there it brings up the actual purble screen then it goes to a weird messed up screen when it tries to load the gui
[06:18] <Fuchs> got to go to work, good luck
[06:18] <erikaflusa> do what
[06:18] <erikaflusa> your going to fast
[06:19] <Andyman555> :quit
[06:19] <varundesai> ohsix:what is powertop?
[06:19] <ohsix> JeffCBR: no, it isn't
[06:19] <erikaflusa> hell i was on 9.04 ubuntu an never had this damn problems
[06:19] <coz_> BrutalSauce,   which video is onboard?
[06:19] <coz_> video card
[06:19] <BrutalSauce> i dont have onboard video i only have a evga gt 240
[06:19] <AbhijiT> varundesai, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/155105-acer-5315-battery-not-charging.html
[06:20] <timewriter> i hate hardware marketing tactics
[06:20] <erikaflusa> what was changed in 1010
[06:20] <coz_> BrutalSauce,   ok hold down left shift key while booting to get to grub menu ,,, hit "e"   to edit kernel stanza and just before   "quiet splash"  put   nomodeset
[06:20] <erikaflusa> 10.10 that cause this kinda grief
[06:20] <coz_> BrutalSauce,  then hit the key mentioned there to boot with that in the boot line
[06:21] <erikaflusa> its crazy i installed wine
[06:21] <varundesai> i had gone through all the topics,they suggested to upgrade my bios,but i am unable to upgrade,as i am a new user,many of my friends warned me,if anything goes wrong,my mother board will damage,is there any safe procedure to upgrade the bios in ubuntu 10.04
[06:21] <erikaflusa> then download pokerstars.exe
[06:21] <erikaflusa> i ask to open using wine
[06:21] <AbhijiT> varundesai, to upgrade bios you download the .exe update from the vendor and install it from your xp
[06:21] <coz_> varundesai,  within linux?  that one I cant answer...  generall I dual boot with windows and update bios from windows
[06:22] <BrutalSauce> it says i dont have it installed rightnow im trying to install it
[06:22] <BrutalSauce> the wubi wasnt working so i decided to try to do it manuly
[06:22] <varundesai> that is my main problem,i totally erased my hard disk,now i am doing all my work with ubuntu only
[06:22] <sacarlson> varundesai: what do you hope to gain by the update of your bios?
[06:22] <gaelfx> there's more than one way to update a bios, a lot of them have onboard updaters that will let you update from a USB provided you have the right file ont here
[06:22] <varundesai> i dont have xp now
[06:22] <coz_> oh!!  wubi   I know absoluetely nothing about Wubi
[06:23] <erikaflusa> i still cant open the exe with winer
[06:23] <erikaflusa> wine
[06:23] <gaelfx> varundesai: what kind of motherboard do you have? do you know the model number?
[06:23] <erikaflusa> someone please help
[06:23] <BrutalSauce> ok so where do i hold shift down to enter e
[06:23] <bazhang> erikaflusa, check the appdb and join #winehq for help with particular apps
[06:23] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: the most recent Pokerstars won't run under wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2899
[06:23] <bazhang> !appdb | erikaflusa
[06:23] <varundesai> sacarlson:many acer users suggested that the battery problem,and on/off of wifi will be solved if i upgrade to the latest bios
[06:24] <gaelfx> varundesai: is this a laptop? if so, do you know the model number?
[06:24] <erikaflusa> hey it runs fine under 9.04
[06:24] <gnewb> verundessai: That is Hardware, it is called Flashing the BIOS,usually, does not matter what OS you are running, that is like a physical change in the BIOS/CMOS . There is more info at computerhope(dot)com on that.
[06:24] <bazhang> erikaflusa, check in #winehq
[06:24] <varundesai> gaelfx:it is netbook,model is acer aspire one 532h
[06:24] <BrutalSauce> coz?
[06:25] <_skpl> Jordan_U: hi, i held down teh shift key like you said and got the grub menu, then i pressed e to get the selections settings, and it mentioned dos in the boot menu, is that strange?
[06:25] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: it will probably run fine in virtualbox too
[06:25] <varundesai> gnewb:thank you i will go through it
[06:25] <erikaflusa> ubuntuscrewed up version 10
[06:25] <_skpl> Jordan_U: and i still cant get rid of the blinking cursor after grub loads
[06:25] <ohsix> you can flash the bios from a dos usb key
[06:25] <erikaflusa> i warned to  upgrade
[06:25] <erikaflusa> was warned
[06:25] <erikaflusa> dont upgrade
[06:25] <BrutalSauce> so im looking at my boot up process it is giving error: ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 209242
[06:25] <bazhang> erikaflusa, wine apps not working is an issue with wine. please stop complaining here
[06:25] <Chipzzz> lol... such is progress
[06:26] <sacarlson> varundesai: I'm not sure about the battery problem, but the wifi on off is that because rfkill  won't work to detect or turn wifi on and off?
[06:26] <a123456789> thanks alot
[06:26] <ohsix> erikaflusa: in 9.04 there was no wrapper to warn you to stop running random programs
[06:26] <erikaflusa> no 10.10 wont let the file open using wine
[06:26] <bazhang> erikaflusa, /join #winehq for particular apps. stop complaining here
[06:26] <ohsix> it will, but the file association is set to a script that checks that the executable bit is set, or it fails
[06:27] <ohsix> this is desirable
[06:27] <ohsix> the dialogue even says what it means and how to set it
[06:27] <_skpl> Jordan_U: did your ead the info in the boot info script? it says i have another bootloader on sda2
[06:27] <_skpl> read i mean
[06:27] <_skpl> Jordan_U: how do i get rid of that?
[06:27] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: I think FullTiltPoker is more linux friendly... and you can play for real money there
[06:27] <erikaflusa> no
[06:28] <varundesai> sacarlson:my wifi button shorctu is fn+f2 ,but when i start my netbook,it will be in on state,i am uable to off,any procedure to manually on/off my wifi
[06:28] <Chipzzz> fulltilt doesn't run either?
[06:28] <erikaflusa> i was runing pokerstars on ubuntu 9.04
[06:28] <erikaflusa> with no problems
[06:28] <ohsix> run the install from a terminal, or set +x (might not work if it's on ntfs)
[06:28] <Jordan_U> _skpl: "msdos" is in reference to the fact that you have an msdos partition table, which is normal.
[06:28] <sunjun> where r u from guys
[06:28] <sacarlson> varundesai: did you try rfkill?
[06:28] <bazhang> sunjun, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[06:29] <varundesai> sacarlson:what is rfkill,how to try t
[06:29] <sacarlson> varundesai: that's what's used to turn wifi on and off as it sound you want http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/rfkill
[06:30] <Chipzzz> varundesai: type aptitude show rfkill
[06:30] <varundesai> sacarlso:i am installing the rfkill from ubuntu software center,i will try it
[06:30] <KSHawkEye> Hello, I'm trying to configure ffmpeg with --enable-libopencore-amrwb which i have built and saved at /home/kyle/software/ffmpeg/external-libs/32-bit How do I get FFmpeg to find the include and lib folder that are located there? I've tried export INCLUDE=$INCLUDE:/home/kyle/software/ffmpeg/external-libs/32-bit/include but it doesn't work, what am i doing wrong? thanks
[06:30] <sacarlson> varundesai: it also detects the position of the wifi hardware switch that seems fails to fuction for you
[06:31] <varundesai> sacarlson:i just installed it,whether i have to restart the machine now
[06:32] <_skpl> Jordan_U: can you tell me how to get rid of the second bootloader?
[06:32] <varundesai> hi abhijet,r u there
[06:32] <MintBerryCrunch> skpl: are these two ubuntu options, or a dualboot such as windows and ubuntu?
[06:33] <sacarlson> varundesai: no don't need to restart as far as I know,  I forgot you had to install it
[06:33] <AbhijiT> varundesai, yes
[06:33] <AbhijiT> !tab | varundesai
[06:35] <Jordan_U> _skpl: It doesn't hurt anything and it's not easy to safely get rid of. I would just not worry about it.
[06:35] <varundesai> abhijit:i am using acer aspire one 532h,many of ubuntu communitys,forum suggested me to upgrade the bios,i downloaded from acer website,i am using ubuntu 10.04,i want to upgarde the bios,but i am little bit afraid of doing upgrade bios,pls suggest,what to do
[06:35] <_skpl> Jordan_U: its slowing down my boot time :(
[06:36] <Jordan_U> _skpl: No, it's not.
[06:36] <gaelfx> varundesai: can you boot into the bios and check what version it is?
[06:37] <AbhijiT> varundesai, i never upgraded bios in linux. i dont know. if its .tar.gz i can tell you the process. but as many have warned about damaging the motherbord, i recommend not to do any such thing. unless you have a person having expreince doing this is guiding you. now your better option is contact your lug/loco and get help in person
[06:37] <KSHawkEye> how can i get linux to find a include and lib folder that isnt in local?
[06:37] <AbhijiT> varundesai, till then ask your issue with all details and info/waring you get till now on ubuntufourms.org and askubuntu.com
[06:37] <gaelfx> I updated the bios on my Gigabyte mobo with just a USB and the BIOS Flash Utility, which is built into the bios itself
[06:38] <varundesai> gaeflx:i am generating report with system performance & bench report,i will tell the bios version,wait for a minute
[06:38] <ohsix> that's a good way to do it if you can
[06:38] <AbhijiT> varundesai, see gaelfx may help ask him
[06:38] <erikaflusa> damn
[06:39] <erikaflusa> i wish this stupid exe would work
[06:39] <awaad> What is the difference between modules inside and modules outside the initrd image ?
[06:40] <varundesai> AbhijiT, :thank you,i will go throuhg it
[06:41] <varundesai> gaeflx:the version is 1.21
[06:41] <avis> sacarlson, the only manner in which i could get it to work is to create a bash script sudo chmod +x it, and then cp to /etc/init.d/  then i had to sudo update-rc.d magic defaults   (magic was the simple name of my script) and it works beautifully.  i appreciate your inspiring me to give it my best shot, i'm getting lucky on google results :)
[06:42] <avis> sacarlson, for that particular function it would fail under both sudo crontab -e and user crontab -e  though -- i still thank you
[06:43] <varundesai> AbhijiT,gaeflx :i have also another issue with my sd card,my net book has a built in sd card reader,ubuntu is not detecting it,when i try lsusb,it is showing the card reader,but when i insert my sd card,it will not show
[06:44] <AbhijiT> varundesai, in my laptop when i insert sd card it dont get detected. when i insert the sd card with a little force then it get detected!!! :P try this!!!! :D
[06:44] <sacarlson> avis: very good,   I'm not sure if you didn't have sudo setup correct or if you needed time for system to settle before openvpn to run.  glad you got it working
[06:45] <AbhijiT> i dunno any other solution!!!
[06:45] <varundesai> AbhijiT, :k
[06:46] <titanium> hello folks sorry im late
[06:47] <timewriter> stupid Chanserv doesnt reply to ping
[06:47] <cryptodira> is there any way to revert a farkled top panel to the pristine condition found after a fresh install of 10.04 WITHOUT having to do a fresh install?
[06:47] <titanium> anybody like radiohead?
[06:48] <bazhang> !resetpanels | cryptodira
[06:48] <bazhang> titanium, offtopic here
[06:48] <titanium> what are we supposed to be talking about ?
[06:48] <bazhang> titanium, check the /topic
[06:49] <titanium> well, i would like to talk to some programmers
[06:49] <timewriter> i have a radio in my head
[06:49] <timewriter> i like it
[06:49] <AbhijiT> titanium, ##programming
[06:49] <bazhang> titanium, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <sacarlson> varundesai: I did find a freedos that this link says you might be able to use to upgrade some bios http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[06:49] <titanium> ##programming
[06:50] <erikaflusa> oh well i guess go back an run 9.04
[06:50] <ohsix> beats figuring it out!
[06:50] <titanium> so confused
[06:51] <AbhijiT> titanium, type /j ##programming
[06:51] <Photocopy> I used to be able to play avi videos fine. Now, I cannot. Totem and VLC both now are putting these strange green patterns all over their output
[06:51] <bazhang> Photocopy, disable compiz for one
[06:51] <ohsix> Photocopy: what video card?
[06:51] <Photocopy> bazhang; never had a problem with video playing with compiz enabled
[06:51] <ohsix> it's not compiz
[06:52] <ohsix> it could be vaapi or nvidias video acceleration / textured video
[06:52] <varundesai> sacarlson, :it will not effect my mother board na,if i go anythng wrong in the procedure
[06:52] <cryptodira> bazhang, thanks, i have tried that already... it returns 'no process found' eliminates and special apps i had (expected that)  but, whenever i reboot, the nm-app and gnome volume control are NOT there... which i kludgely restore by once again making a custom application addition... hence the original question.
[06:52] <Photocopy> ohsix; i don't know, it's the onboard card in my laptop. how can I find it with lspci?
[06:52] <ohsix> Photocopy: it should be the only video adapter, just knowing if its intel/nvidia/ati should be good enough
[06:53] <Taffy> i just install ubuntu 64-bit 10.10 on a laptop and i'm having a hard time setting up the wireless connection (maybe cause it's a hewlett-packard...lol) i was thinking it's the wireless on/off button i know it's on but still can't find my router
[06:53] <ohsix> also did you try other video files, they could be damaged
[06:53] <Photocopy> ohsix; i still don't know
[06:54] <Photocopy> ohsix; i tried other video files, including ones that i've stored that worked previously
[06:54] <sacarlson> varundesai: as you have already been warned it may brick your motherboard,  I personaly wouldn't do it.  my guess is that ubuntu is by default power hungery with compiz and other power demanding applications
[06:54] <Photocopy> this worked fine as recently as monday
[06:55] <ohsix> sacarlson: compiz can actually save power overall, but generally it's moot whether it's running or not
[06:55] <^Phantom^> call me old
[06:55] <^Phantom^> but does ubuntu support floppy drives?
[06:56] <ohsix> support how, it reads them and mounts them and you can eject them
[06:56] <Photocopy> this is pretty annoying.. ='
[06:56] <erikaflusa> abhilll
[06:56] <erikaflusa> i found the permissions
[06:56] <sacarlson> ohsix: I don't know I'm not a laptop guy,  but I see cpu usage high and with all the eye candy you say that saves power?
[06:56] <erikaflusa> tab
[06:56] <erikaflusa> on the exe file
[06:56] <ohsix> sacarlson: no high cpu usage here ...
[06:57] <mrglinux> how to find all *.srt extension in a directory and subdirectory using bash?
[06:57] <ohsix> mrglinux: only bash or is find enough? it's really the tool for the job. find /directory -iname '*.srt'
[06:57] <Photocopy> ohsix; it may be an ati adapter
[06:57] <moustiK_> Hi everyone, by the way those of you who uses gnome(arch,fedora,gentoo,debian,ubuntu,etc...) , how is the transition from gnome 2 to 3 is   happening(or will happen), does systemtray, applets and indicators work? Do you know how it will evolve, I am especially wondering what will happen to compiz with others distribution now that they are co linked to unity(for which i am not judging as it's great that they are reciving sponsorship). If my
[06:57] <moustiK_>  question is not posted on the right place feel free to correct me
[06:57] <erikaflusa> what do i need to change
[06:58] <Photocopy> ohsix; how can I find out?
[06:58] <erikaflusa> under permissions tab
[06:58] <^Phantom^> How do you get ubuntu to read floppy diskettes?
[06:58] <mrglinux> ohsix:I used find ./ -type f -name \*.srt but it's only find the files in current directory not subdirectories
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom^: you may need an fstab entry, has the installer added one for the floppy for you?
[06:59] <ohsix> mrglinux: well, it's recursive by default so i don't know what it's doing
[06:59] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: udisks should handle it like any other volume, aside from polling on some drives (cuz polling wakes up the drive typically)
[06:59] <Photocopy> sigh...
[06:59] <Photocopy> okay
[07:00] <^Phantom^> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: yes, it should, but it isn't or the user wouldn't be here.....
[07:00] <^Phantom^> The drive is doing something, I know that much, I can see the light blinking.
[07:00] <erikaflusa> hey i found the permission
[07:00] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: then find out why udisks isn't working, or check why the mounts fail
[07:00] <erikaflusa> tab
[07:00] <Photocopy> Does anyone know why suddenly over the space of a few days videos would go from displaying fine to displaying with green staticy looking horizontal patterns and crap over the video outputs?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom^: try:    gksudo gedit /etc/fstab     add this line:  /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto, 0 0
[07:00] <erikaflusa> on the exe file
[07:00] <^Phantom^> Accelerator, okay
[07:00] <ohsix> Photocopy: what software did you update & did you install anything from source?
[07:01] <erikaflusa> what do i need to change permission to so wine can open it
[07:01] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that won't fix it :[
[07:01] <Photocopy> ohsix; installed nothing from source and I don't know what I may have updated. Presumably not anything
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom^: then run: sudo mkdir /media/floppy0
[07:01] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: can you post the output of dmesg and udisks --dump to a pastebin first
[07:01] <Photocopy> ohsix; unless it might be something that updated in my update manager; I never look at it, i just let it install whatever it prompts me for
[07:01] <^Phantom^> ohsix, sure
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: sure it will, the disk will be inserted and the system will see an entry in fstab, and use it
[07:01] <erikaflusa> what do i need to change on permissions tab
[07:02] <erikaflusa> to run the exe file
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: so long as s/he remember to properly unmount / eject the floppy like you are supposed to, no issues
[07:02] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: it doesn't need an fstab entry, it'll mount it in /media like any other volume
[07:02] <ohsix> yes, you need to manuall ymount it, which is dumb
[07:02] <erikaflusa> can sopme one help me
[07:02] <soreau> Is there a way to minimize a window with xdotool?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: chmod +x filename.exe
[07:03] <bazhang> erikaflusa, #winehq after checking the appdb
[07:03] <erikaflusa> how do i run chmod
[07:03] <^Phantom^> ohsix, the floppy drive shows up, I can say that much
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: in a terminal
[07:03] <Photocopy> okay well goddamnit
[07:03] <^Phantom^> ohsix, i think I might know why it's not mounting:  I'm using a USB extender cord
[07:03] <^Phantom^> I'll try plugging it in directly hang on
[07:03] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: good; need to find out why udisks isn't doing its thing for it
[07:03] <Photocopy> now I messed up... Gotta reboot cause I can't do anything
[07:04] <^Phantom^> I found a couple of my old floppies and the first thing that came to mind:  Gotta see if ubuntu supports floppy drives, lol
[07:04] <erikaflusa> says command not found
[07:04] <Photocopy> okay
[07:04] <Photocopy> nevermind i'm still alright
[07:05] <Chipzzz> erikaflusa: sudo chmod +x filename.exe
[07:05] <ohsix> Photocopy: you could try turning compiz off just to rule it out
[07:05] <Photocopy> i tried that
[07:05] <Photocopy> apparently i did it wrong
[07:05] <ohsix> hit alt+f2 type metacity --replace to temporarily switch it off
[07:05] <Photocopy> all my window borders disappeared and i was completely unable to do anything
[07:05] <KSHawkEye> Hello, im trying to compile a program. The program needs another program that i chose to not install to /local but instead to a prefix. How can i get the main program to find the needed other program to compile?
[07:05] <Photocopy> okay ohsix, done
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: you need to change the filename with the full path and filename (case sensitive) to the file you want
[07:06] <Photocopy> still didnt help
[07:06] <Photocopy> i can confirm this is an ati adapter
[07:06] <moustiK_> type alt +f2 then run metacity --replace
[07:06] <erikaflusa> sudo chmod
[07:06] <ohsix> Photocopy: i'm not too familiar with gotchas on that order with ati devices
[07:07] <erikaflusa> missing operand
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: no, i never said sudo to you, did I?
[07:07] <moustiK_> or in a terminal to get windows decorations back
[07:07] <ohsix> Photocopy: is this after restarting when you discovered the problem?
[07:07] <Photocopy> goddamnit
[07:07] <Photocopy> this needs to work
[07:07] <Photocopy> after restarting what?
[07:07] <ohsix> the computer
[07:07] <bazhang> Photocopy, watch the language
[07:07] <Photocopy> i didn't do it
[07:07] <Photocopy> when i said that i was going to restart it's cause i killed compiz without starting up metacity lol
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: sudo chmod is both meaningless and not what I told you
[07:07] <soreau> Photocopy: Does this show up in a screenhot?
[07:07] <^Phantom^> ohsix, no luck plugged directly
[07:07] <soreau> Photocopy: screeshot*
[07:07] <Photocopy> it might, soreau
[07:07] <Photocopy> let me try
[07:08] <ohsix> Photocopy: i know, but i mean; have you restarted the computer since the problem started
[07:08] <soreau> Photocopy: screenshot*
[07:08] <Photocopy> yeah it shows up
[07:08] <^Phantom^> Maybe the disks are bad?
[07:08] <erikaflusa> i typed chmod
[07:08] <^Phantom^> the drive shows up under computer
[07:08] <erikaflusa> in terminal
[07:08] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: can you post that information?
[07:08] <soreau> Photocopy: Can you post it to speedyshare or picpaste.com?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: for EXAAMPLE, if the file is in ~/progs and is called go.exe, the command would be: chmod +x ~/progs/go.exe
[07:08] <Photocopy> will do
[07:08] <^Phantom^> Yeah, hangon
[07:08] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: that could be something, if the inner track is damaged in any way on a floppy they're rendered completely unusable, and that happens pretty often
[07:09] <^Phantom^> ah
[07:09] <^Phantom^> Hmm...
[07:09]  * ^Phantom^ tries another floppy
[07:09] <^Phantom^> i'll paste the info too
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: do you see how the command works now?
[07:09] <ohsix> good
[07:09] <erikaflusa> its is in tmp
[07:09] <Photocopy> soreau, ohsix; http://picpaste.com/derp.png
[07:09] <erikaflusa> folder
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: fine, change the filename then
[07:09] <erikaflusa> i did
[07:10] <erikaflusa> p.exe
[07:10] <soreau> Photocopy: Oh wow..
[07:10] <ohsix> Photocopy: ooooh that's unlucky, i think
[07:10] <^Phantom^> Hey, since it's a usb drive, maybe I need to reboot for it to work?
[07:10] <soreau> Photocopy: I have the exact same problem but I thought it was only one video
[07:10] <Photocopy> in what sense
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: ok so the command would be: chmod +x /tmp/p.exe
[07:10] <soreau> lets see..
[07:10] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: nah that shouldn't matter, hotplug works
[07:10] <^Phantom^> Ugh @ comast internet!  How long can it take to upload some text?
[07:11] <^Phantom^> ohsix, http://pastebin.com/syLEEXri
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: is that what you ran?
[07:11] <Photocopy> ohsix, soreau; what exactly?
[07:11] <Photocopy> soreau; for me its any video, apparently, including ones that i know worked before
[07:12] <^Phantom^> (sorry, ohsix, i have a lot of drives)
[07:12] <erikaflusa> ya
[07:12] <erikaflusa> i got no error
[07:12] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: and dmesg? (that's the important one)
[07:12] <MintBerryCrunch> Phantom: Comcast's worst day beats Armstrong's best day :(
[07:12] <Photocopy> soreau; presumably you have no solution then?
[07:13] <soreau> Photocopy: So now we have to figure out if its a driver bug or an encoding issue with mplayer
[07:13] <erikaflusa> hey can u do me favor
[07:13] <MintBerryCrunch> Armstrong's commercials talk about their community programming, not one thing about their actual internet sped
[07:13] <Photocopy> soreau: how are we going to do this
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> erikaflusa: sup?
[07:13] <soreau> Photocopy: What does lspci|grep VGA say for your card?
[07:13] <MintBerryCrunch> *speed
[07:13] <recognosco> Photocopy: tried playing that with another player?
[07:13] <soreau> Photocopy: Yea, what video player are you using?
[07:13] <erikaflusa> send that command
[07:13] <erikaflusa> to me
[07:14] <erikaflusa> in a pm
[07:14] <Photocopy> soreau; doesnt work in banshee, totem, vlc,
[07:14] <ohsix> it's something with the textured video port
[07:14] <soreau> Photocopy: Hm. So possible driver issue. What is the lspci line for your card?
[07:14] <Photocopy> soreau: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Photocopy: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed as well as w32codecs from medibuntu
[07:14] <^Phantom^> It seems to not want to mount, just like my SD reader, ohsix
[07:14] <Photocopy> soreau; why would there be a driver issue now and not monday?
[07:15] <Photocopy> yes, ActionParsnip; this has all worked before, as stated
[07:15] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you don't need any w32codecs for mp4 in avi to work D:
[07:15] <soreau> Photocopy: Are you using xorg-edgers repo by chance?
[07:15] <ohsix> if w32codecs is installed it could actually be the problem
[07:15] <ohsix> but not with vlc
[07:15] <ohsix> or totem
[07:15] <Photocopy> soreau; i'm not. Someone tried to get me to use that for something else the other day and i also declined
[07:15] <recognosco> Photocopy: if vlc is causing trouble, most like driver
[07:15] <^Phantom^> The drive is there under Computer, just can't open it. <_<
[07:16] <recognosco> likely*
[07:16] <ohsix> Photocopy: it might let you sidestep the problem
[07:16] <Darkenvy> I need to grab a file (pulling) from my server using SSH. How can I do so?
[07:16] <Photocopy> soreau; if it was working before and isn't now, why would it be the driver? i didn't change the driver between then and now
[07:16] <Chipzzz> Photocopy: which drivers are you using?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: its good to have the whole lot though
[07:16] <ohsix> Darkenvy: scp server:file .
[07:16] <Photocopy> Chipzzz; whatever ubuntu assigned it when I installed.
[07:16] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: not really; gstreamer doesn't use them, and vlc is self contained
[07:16] <Photocopy> Chipzzz: never manually changed any drivers for anything on this machine
[07:16] <Darkenvy> scp is an FTP protocol isnt it? and only used to push
[07:16] <soreau> Photocopy: Ok so its likely some encoding issue.. let me try a few things
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Photocopy: try gnome-mplayer :)
[07:17] <webvictim> no Darkenvy
[07:17] <ohsix> Darkenvy: scp is scp, and the source and destination can be local files or remote machines
[07:17] <Darkenvy> Ive pushed wiht it before, how to pull?
[07:17] <recognosco> Darkenvy: no. scp is secure copy.
[07:17] <Chipzzz> Photocopy: you might have better luck with the proprietary drivers... I hear they're pretty good
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: yes, its bi-directional
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> ah
[07:17] <webvictim> reverse the arguments
[07:17] <soreau> Photocopy: What is the output of lspci|grep VGA ?
[07:17] <Photocopy> ActionParsnip: wait, is that the movie player that is default in 10.10?
[07:17] <Darkenvy> oooh nice
[07:17] <hilarie> Ahoy! http://paste.ubuntu.com/568627/ The  CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 2.3.0 Doesn't give me 100mhz powersave speedsteps that that reports, any idea's on how to get that much control over my processors?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Photocopy: that's totem
[07:17] <Photocopy> soreau: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[07:17] <ohsix> scp is just like cp except it can talk to remot emachines via ssh
[07:17] <Photocopy> soreau: already sent you that
[07:17] <Darkenvy> thanks guys! This is why I love IRC. 30 minutes on google vs 30 seconds :P
[07:17] <^Phantom^> I'll copy out the contents of these floppies with my laptop, ActionParsnip and ohsix.  It reads on there.
[07:17] <Photocopy> ActionParsnip: okay for a minute i thought i might have confused them
[07:18] <^Phantom^> Thank you for the help, though
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Photocopy: mplayer is the daddy of daddies
[07:18] <webvictim> you could've done it in 10 with "man scp" ;)
[07:18] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: that usb drive could be out of whack too D: floppies are really a pain in the ass
[07:18] <Photocopy> urg
[07:18] <soreau> Photocopy: Ah ok. Well I bet we arent the only one with this issue and a bug report should surface soon if someone hasnt already reported it
[07:18] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: dmesg has kernel messages, and probably information about the errors trying to read the disk
[07:19] <Photocopy> i just completely fail to comprehend why something like this happens between one day and the next with no change to any drivers or anything like that
[07:19] <Photocopy> it's completely beyond explanation
[07:19] <^Phantom^> ohsix, ah
[07:19] <Photocopy> there's no good reason for it as far as i understand
[07:19] <recognosco> Photocopy: i will have to agree. beyond explanation without changes.
[07:19] <soreau> Photocopy: Sometimes there are too many developers who dont test their code fully before committing it
[07:19] <hilarie> Any Idea's though, the built in thingy for ubuntu 10.10 only gives me 25% 50% and 100% power jumps,
[07:20] <Photocopy> recognosco: every single computer problem i have ever had in my life has been in that nature. completely sudden and without being triggered by an identifiable change
[07:20] <Photocopy> anyway
[07:20] <ohsix> it's always the stuff you forget
[07:20] <Photocopy> i found a site that will stream it for me which doesn't have the same problem
[07:20] <^Phantom^> Thank you again for the time though, ActionParsnip and ohsix :D
[07:21] <Photocopy> the episode is priority so im going to watch that now...
[07:21] <recognosco> Photocopy: is it on specific type of video file or all?
[07:22] <Photocopy> recognosco; i'm not sure. I'll get back to you on that. I'd have to get up and get my external drive to test a different filetype and stuff
[07:22] <ohsix> Photocopy: xvinfo will dump info about the video port, it could be a bug with only one format, and working one day and not the next could be from an unrelated update
[07:22] <Photocopy> and now that i've watched a minute and a half of this i cant stop
[07:23] <queen> hello everyone!
[07:25] <HugoKuo__> is there have a channel about  ubuntu UEC ?
[07:26] <timewriter> ubuntu UAC
[07:28] <queen> quit
[07:28] <HugoKuo__> # Ubuntu UAC
[07:28] <HugoKuo__>  this ?
[07:29] <HugoKuo__> seem like no such channel
[07:30] <erikaflusa> lol
[07:30] <erikaflusa> anyone in here in florida
[07:31] <bazhang> !ot | erikaflusa
[07:31] <erikaflusa> sorry
[07:34] <cryptodira> bazhang, Thanks for your help earlier  :)   laters.
[07:36] <MACscr|lappy> ok, so i have ubuntu 10.10 running off a live cd (usb actually) and i need to resize my osx partition, which is running hfs+. Anyone ever tried doing that? gparted says i need to install hfsprogs, but apt doesnt seem to be finding it
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> MACscr|lappy: do you have a web connection in the Live environment?
[07:37] <bazhang> !info hfsprogs | MACscr|lappy
[07:38] <bazhang> make sure the repo is enabled MACscr|lappy
[07:38] <MACscr|lappy> ActionParsnip: yes, im on it now =)
[07:38] <MACscr|lappy> bazhang: ok
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> MACscr|lappy: just checking, enable the repo like bazhang said and it will come down
[07:40] <hilarie> Okay, cd bleh, brings me to the folder of bleh, from my home folder, how to get back to home folder w/o  restarting terminal?
[07:41] <gaelfx> hilarie: cd ..
[07:41] <gaelfx> or cd ~
[07:41] <kneaux> Hi, my mouse cursor has gone haywire and I'd rather not reboot, is there a way to fix it? Problem seems to be associated with VLC; the cursor has changed to a few rows of pixels repeated about a dozen times
[07:41] <hilarie> cd .. goes back one?
[07:42] <gaelfx> hilarie: correct
[07:42] <hilarie> awesomesauce ty
[07:42] <gaelfx> and cd ~ will take you to the home folder no matter where you are
[07:42] <gaelfx> np
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: just:   cd    will do that too ;)
[07:44] <timewriter> whats the difference between ubuntu 10 and debian 6 ?
[07:44] <MACscr|lappy> shoot, seems installing hfsprogs didnt make a difference to gparted. It still recommends installing it
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: one is debian,one is ubuntu
[07:45] <bazhang> timewriter, out of scope for this channel
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> MACscr|lappy: you may need to restart gparted topick it up
[07:45] <timewriter> what
[07:45] <bazhang> timewriter, offtopic
[07:45] <sss> How to start Ubuntu in text mode? (no GUI)
[07:45] <timewriter> i was talking about ubuntu
[07:45] <bazhang> !nox | sss
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> sss: add the boot option: text
[07:45] <timewriter> what is offtopic ?
[07:45] <timewriter> do you want to discuss about Mercedes ?
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: this channel is for support questions, people with issues
[07:46] <timewriter> ok
[07:46] <timewriter> sorry
[07:46] <bazhang> timewriter, this is not the differences between debian and ubuntu channel, its strictly ubuntu support. please respect that
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> np :)
[07:46] <timewriter> ok ok , please dont make me feel guilty
[07:47] <akshatj> I have installed Jolicloud and Natty on two different partitions(along with Maverick and Windows 7 on two different partitions) and now I want to remove Jolicloud and natty, How do I do that?
[07:47] <foldink> hi all
[07:47] <soreau> ! natty | akshatj
[07:48] <akshatj> Should i just delete the two partitions and run update-grup?
[07:48] <bazhang> akshatj, use gparted to get rid of the partitions
[07:48] <akshatj> bazhang: just that?
[07:48] <soreau> akshatj: sure, and you can resize your other partitions to fill the space
[07:48] <foldink> Does anyone now what can be a solution to > cat /proc/asound/cards => "no soudn cards" , and modprobe snd-hda-intel Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/updates/alsa/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module,config is Ubuntu 10.04 MacbookPro 5.5
[07:48] <Photocopy> soreau, actionparsnip, ohsix; xvinfo reported this; http://pastebin.com/9wFwdP2f
[07:48] <bazhang> akshatj, then resize, or allocate as shared space
[07:49] <Photocopy> akshatj; are you the boy from india that got the laptop?
[07:50] <MACscr|lappy> anyone know what the copy partition option does in gparted? can i use it to simply backup a partition easily?
[07:51] <Shadowex3> Is it possible to create a desktop launcher to open and run an SSH command (ssh -ND 9999 specifically)? I've already tried creating a launcher as an application and as a run-in-terminal application, and attempted to make a script to run.
[07:51] <manuscle> hello everyone
[07:51] <Shadowex3> ahoy
[07:51] <foldink> hello
[07:52] <manuscle> excuse my english
[07:52] <milokliz> where can i find aircrack-ng help
[07:52] <bazhang> milokliz, #aircrack-ng
[07:52] <manuscle> i have a problem with some of my hard disk
[07:52] <milokliz> ty
[07:53] <era878> How can I make an ubuntu cluster?
[07:53] <milokliz> #aircrack-ng
[07:53] <marco_> Hi folks. I am searching for help with an issue with video driver that prevents me the use of dual screen. If someone would help I'll really appreciate it.
[07:53] <manuscle> first am i on the good canal?
[07:53] <gaelfx> milokliz: you have you type '/join #aircrack-ng' to go there
[07:53] <milokliz> lol ty
[07:53] <gaelfx> np
[07:53] <marco_> (or if someone can just point me out where to ask. thanks.)
[07:53] <sacarlson> Shadowex3: I've never tried the ssh in a launcher but seems it should work,  did you select open in term when you create the launcher in the control panel?
[07:54] <bazhang> marco_, with xrandr ?
[07:54] <era878> How can I make an ubuntu cluster?
[07:54] <marco_> bazhang, problem is that with dual screen the z-order of windows and shadows is inverted. So I have shadows over windows and focused windows UNDER unfocused ones
[07:54] <era878> '
[07:54] <marco_> my video card is GM965
[07:54] <Shadowex3> sacarlson: I've tried both, I have difficulty getting the open in term one to do ANYTHING
[07:55] <Ve2> Hmm, PasswordAuthentication option is set to no but I can still ssh in with a password. :/
[07:55] <Shadowex3> I've entered the command as ssh -ND 9999 -l xxx@yyy
[07:55] <Shadowex3> i get a terminal flashing open and it just dissapears
[07:55] <manuscle> i have used disk manager to format one of my disk in ext4 but fdisk -l tell me that there is no partition table on it!
[07:55] <sacarlson> Shadowex3: oh maybe the problem is it needs a password?  you can setup so that ssh won't ask for a password if you use keys
[07:55] <Shadowex3> Oh I know it needs a password
[07:56] <Shadowex3> i was expecting to have a shortcut that opens a terminal and runs the command for me so I can just input the password and be done with it
[07:56] <gaelfx> manuscle: if you have a liveusb or livecd, you should probably use gparted
[07:56] <marco_> sacarlson, not so simple, had problem with passwordless ssh login too.
[07:56] <marco_> anyone on my video driver prob?
[07:57] <sacarlson> marco_: problem to setup passworless or to setup as Shadowex3 is trying to do?
[07:57] <Shadowex3> I've actually had the most luck using: gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=StayOpen -x bash -l -c "ssh -ND 999 -l"
[07:57] <manuscle> gaelfx, Yet I can still write to disk
[07:58] <manuscle> i believed that a disk with no partition table could not be writeable
[07:58] <amit> if in a group there are more than one user say v1,v2  and if a user say l from another group want to acess all the members of the that group means l1,l2 how should he do within one line command
[07:58] <sacarlson> Shadowex3: I'm not sure what the -ND 999 thing does
[07:58] <moustiK_>  Hi , I want to chroot a Gui app with export DISPLAY=:0.0 but it does not work only Xnest and Xephr works , does anyone have a solution of chrooting a gui app ?
[07:58] <Shadowex3> Sacarlson it's a SOCK5 thing
[07:58] <gaelfx> manuscle: well, it can be written, but reading it afterwards is a bit troublesome ;)
[07:58] <amit> sorry not li and l2 vi and v2
[07:59] <amit> ????/////
[08:00] <manuscle> gaelfx, i never had a problem, i have formatted the disk few month ago, i think i am lucky!
[08:00] <hilarie> How do I take ownership back from root?
[08:00] <MACscr|lappy> whats the fastest way for me to image a partition? dd? im not worried about size, so i dont want compression
[08:01] <gaelfx> manuscle: how do you know it doesn't have a partition table?
[08:01] <hilarie> I have home/Rawr/bin/TurionPowerControl (I compiled it from sudo) and now its owned by root
[08:01] <hilarie> And then hilarie@ebilKitty:~/Rawr/bin$ sudo TurionPowerControl    sudo: TurionPowerControl: command not found
[08:01] <manuscle> gaelfx, i discovered the problem because yesterday i created a new raid5, and disk manager is ...... what do you say for ... crap?
[08:01] <era878> How can I setup an ubuntu cluster
[08:01] <sacarlson> Shadowex3: from looking breafly at man ssh  -D [bind_address:]port  seems only a sudo user can do this?
[08:02] <amit> if a user v1 of one group want to acess the other group user more than one say l1 and l2 how should he do within one command means without changing mode for l1 and l2 seperately
[08:02] <Shadowex3> It doesn't ask me for root when I do it in a standard terminal window, it just asks me for the SSH login password for my SSH server
[08:02] <manuscle> gaelfx, fdisl -l tell me that is no partition table on the disk as well on the raid5
[08:02] <sacarlson> Shadowex3: oh privliged ports I guess 9999 wouldn't be one of those
[08:03] <Shadowex3> no it's just localhost iirc
[08:03] <marco_> Need help, problem is that with dual screen the z-order of windows and shadows is inverted. So I have shadows over windows and focused windows UNDER unfocused ones. How do I reset video driver?
[08:03] <Shadowex3> See sacarlson i'm just copying lifehacker's secure browsing through a personal SSH server and Sock5 connection, that part all works perfectly.
[08:03] <Shadowex3> the only problem i'm having is creating a working desktop shortcut to automate the tedium of typing out the command
[08:04] <hilarie> Root owns something of mine, HALP :)
[08:04] <sacarlson> Shadowex3: ok it works but you can't find a simple way to start it up without all that typeing?
[08:05] <sss> Is it possible to use different languages for different accounts?
[08:05] <manuscle> gaelfx, when i created the raid5 with disk manager, my disk was new, and disk manager created a raid
[08:05] <timewriter> i might admit , ubuntu didnt disapoint me yet
[08:05] <iflema> hilarie: ./configure and make as normal user, but    sudo make install.   go again......
[08:05] <timewriter> and im using it for 1 week
[08:06] <manuscle> gaelfx, after i tried to create a partition but i had error message
[08:06] <amit> if a user v1 of one group want to acess the other group user more than one say l1 and l2 how should he do within one command means without changing mode for l1 and l2 seperately
[08:06] <MACscr|lappy> dd is going to be awefully slow though since there is only 10gb of space used on the 30gb partition =/
[08:06] <Shadowex3> sacarlson: exactly, my sock5 setup and SSH server all work fine. Doing it by hand works great. I'm just trying to automate a bit of this.
[08:06] <manuscle> i discovered that before creating raid i had to format the 3 disk
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> amit: add it to the groups as required, surely
[08:07] <MACscr|lappy> manuscle: raid1 is only two disks
[08:07] <hilarie> iflema so sudo make install sh Installer.sh?
[08:07] <iflema> hilarie: there should be an unistall option to remove the first attemp
[08:08] <hilarie> @iflema it never installed, just created a thingy in a bin directory
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest26833: running IRC clients as root is a really BAD idea
[08:08] <osmosis_paul> Morning, do you know if the cron generate a log file with his activities, i have a service that did not execute and i want to know why
[08:08] <osmosis_paul> because if i execute manually works
[08:08] <hilarie> More accrurately it should be named compile.sh lol
[08:08] <amit> actionparsnip:my mean to say that chmod  750  /home/l1     chmod  750 /home/l2     can we write these both 2 command  as a single one
[08:09] <manuscle> I know raid 1 is two disk! why tell you that ?!
[08:09] <Shadowex3> sacarlson I got it, one of the guys in #bash noticed that I should use either xxx@yyy OR -l username, I'd combined two seperate SSH commands since it's 3am
[08:09] <manuscle> i am using raid 5 with 3 disk!
[08:09] <manuscle> the probleme is not here
[08:10] <sss> Is it possible to remote control Windows from Ubuntu and vice versa?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> amit: if you make a new group and add both users to it, then change the group ownership of the folder, both users will have access
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> sss: VNC will work both ways
[08:10] <iflema> hilarie: im not sure about.... try without sudo??????
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> sss: there are often more graceful metods though
[08:10] <sss> ActionParnsip, what is VNC?
[08:11] <amit> ActionParsnip: body i want to acess these l1 and l2 from other user from other group as l2 and l2 are in same group
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> sss: remote control software for the full desktop, but depending on th activities you intend there may be sleeker options
[08:12] <sss> ActionParnsip. ok, thanks
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> amit: then if you allow the group read access, it will be able to read the other users data
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> sss: for example, torrent clients often have web interfaces
[08:12] <Shadowex3> sss: Not only is it perfectly possible I do it too, I've got a win7 box and an ubuntu laptop. I'm setting it up to control both from each other.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> sss: and you can manage updates via command line in SSH etc
[08:13] <amit> ActionParnsip: i want the answer how can we change permisson of both l1 and l2 within a command not changing for l1 and l2 sepaeratively how to do it consecutively
[08:13] <costas> hello, I have a problem with alsa on my desktop pc, It runs an updated Ubuntu studio amd64 and the soundcard is delta1010 (ice1712) any help is appreciated...
[08:15] <costas> I followed through all steps necessary but no sound..
[08:15] <amit> ActionParsnip: means chmod 750  /home/l1      chmod 750 /home/l2        how can we write these both two as a single
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> amit: with a group
[08:15] <timewriter> i wonder if i can run old tomb raider games under wine
[08:15] <linuxuz3r> guys
[08:15] <amit> ok thanks
[08:15] <costas> used to work fine with earlier versions with alsaconf
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> whats a good sftp program with front end for linux
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> amit: not sure dude, why is 2 commands so bad. Considering the amount of text you have typed in here....
[08:16] <bazhang> timewriter, check the appdb
[08:16] <costas> !alsa
[08:16] <timewriter> im installing wine and try to run them
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: nautilus can do it, or filezilla
[08:16] <costas> !ice1712
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | timewriter
[08:16] <timewriter> ok , thank you
[08:17] <timewriter> but most likely will do
[08:17] <timewriter> they are old games
[08:17] <timewriter> win95 compatible
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: which tomb raider is it?
[08:17] <timewriter> The Last revelation
[08:17] <bazhang> timewriter, or dosbox
[08:17] <costas> wine has some issues, with several games investigate on their homesite...
[08:17] <timewriter> and tombraider 1 2 3
[08:17] <Ve2> Ok, I need some help configuring ssh. For some reason my ssh_config file doesn't seem to affect anything. I have both AllowUsers & PermitRootLogin no options as well as PasswordAuthentication no & can still login as root with a password.
[08:17] <costas> !damn ubuntu
[08:18] <bazhang> costas, stop that
[08:18] <costas> anyone knows about recent alsa changes?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4129  looks bad, if its 95 based then dosbox may fly, or you can install win95 in dosbox and run it (maybe, I installed win 3.1 in it)
[08:18] <timewriter> ill try dosbox
[08:18] <timewriter> it takes 2 hrs to install wine
[08:19] <bazhang> costas, ask in #alsa
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oJdzCrI47c
[08:19] <KIAaze> hi, I am unable to log into the ubuntuforums. Is there a problem with the forum at the moment?
[08:19] <costas> thanks, will do, sorry about the spam bazhang
[08:19] <timewriter> are you kidding me , ActionParsnip
[08:19] <timewriter> do you think i am able to view a youtube video :))
[08:19] <timewriter> 6 kb/sec
[08:19] <timewriter> lol
[08:19] <jadespider> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Q50bVq8mk
[08:19] <bazhang> KIAaze, not sure, I'll check and you can also ask in #ubuntuforums
[08:19] <jadespider> good song
[08:20] <bazhang> jadespider, and offtopic here
[08:20] <KIAaze> I asked in #ubuntuforums already
[08:20] <jadespider> ooops sorry
[08:20] <jadespider> wrong channel screen
[08:20] <alkisg> A friend of mine wants to buy a laptop with Ati HD 5470 graphics card. Is this supported by Ubuntu?
[08:20] <jadespider> hey I think thats the graphics card I am using
[08:21] <jadespider> I had a few issues but it is running smoothly now
[08:21] <alkisg> jadespider: cool, any links for the issues?
[08:21] <Toxa_Russia> Hello. What channel for ubuntu in Russia
[08:21] <jadespider> no issues past the 3rd party driver
[08:21] <bazhang> Toxa_Russia, #ubuntu-ru
[08:21] <alkisg> jadespider: thank you :)
[08:21] <timewriter> hah i love nintendo 64
[08:22] <jadespider> I had some issues with flickering in games
[08:22] <Toxa_Russia> thanks
[08:22] <timewriter> welcome to mario kart
[08:22] <jadespider> no fix for it as I know of
[08:22] <alkisg> Ah np she won't play games
[08:22] <jadespider> but most games work fine
[08:22] <jadespider> tux cart was the worst one
[08:22] <jadespider> and then the post-nuclear game cant remember the name of it, but that game was a fail
[08:22] <jadespider> everything else works good
[08:22] <alkisg> jadespider: but e.g. google-earth runs fine?
[08:22] <alkisg> jadespider: or glxgears, or generally 3d apps?
[08:23] <jadespider> havent tried it, I will give it a whirl brb
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> jadespider: doom3 and postal2 run great here
[08:23] <jadespider> generally no probs with 3d apps
[08:23] <jadespider> except for a few games
[08:23] <alkisg> Thanks!
[08:23] <daaxma_> 1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> jadespider: also check out urban terror if you like counterstrike style games
[08:23] <jadespider> awesome :O
[08:23] <jadespider> I was looking for a CS replacement
[08:23] <osmosis_paul> somebody know something about this error in cron
[08:23] <osmosis_paul> (CRON) error (grandchild #3264 failed with exit status 1)
[08:23] <jadespider> downloaded aliens but that wasn't 'cutting' it lol
[08:23] <timewriter> Alien arena
[08:24] <jadespider> thats the one
[08:24] <timewriter> or Assault Cube
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> jadespider: its based on the unreal engine so has wall jumping
[08:24] <jadespider> very nice
[08:24] <jadespider> thank you
[08:24] <timewriter> getdeb.net
[08:24] <jadespider> let me see how google earth runs for me brb
[08:24] <Guest46677> eee
[08:25] <amit> exit
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> jadespider: http://www.spotht.com/2010/09/install-getdeb-and-playdeb-software-in.html
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> jadespider: lots of games there
[08:26] <silare> Hi all, my gnome-panel crashes on startup and restarting it just gives me an empty panel while a lot of errors for every applet (none of which load). I don't know how to diagnose this problem at all either. Google has not given me anything of similar nature.
[08:27] <misla> abiy hi
[08:27] <timewriter> silare, rm -rf .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd from your folder
[08:27] <timewriter> then logout
[08:27] <timewriter> and relog
[08:27] <KIAaze> can anyone try to log out and into ubuntuforums again?
[08:28] <KIAaze> something seems to be wrong
[08:28] <silare> timewriter: Can I just move them to another folder instead (thereby making it 'nonexistent' in that place)?
[08:28] <jduggan_> a
[08:28] <misla> timewriter: oh ,so it is
[08:28] <AegisX> Hi, guys... I'm trying to access some music shared on my Windows desktop through my Ubuntu laptop... and it's doing my head in. Can someone please walk me through the setup?
[08:28] <KIAaze> I even tried registering again and got an error message: Fatal error: Existing data passed is not an array
[08:28] <KIAaze> Called set_existing in [path]/register.php on line 421
[08:28] <KIAaze> in [path]/includes/class_dm.php on line 235
[08:28] <timewriter> if you delete these folders , gnome will restore to initial settings
[08:28] <timewriter> dont forget .gnome2_private too
[08:28] <silare> timewriter: Ahh, got it.
[08:29] <chachin> can anyone pm me and help me instal ubuntu?
[08:29] <jadespider> weird google earth wont load at all for me
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: have you shared the folder in Windows?
[08:29] <alkisg> jadespider: run it from the console, to see any error messages
[08:29] <jadespider> k
[08:29] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Yep, I have. (I love your nick, btw)
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: thanks (its a harry hill joke ;))
[08:29] <bazhang> chachin, ask here
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: what version of windows are you connecting to?
[08:30] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Windows 7
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: http://thelinuxexperiment.com/linux/accessing-windows-7-shares-from-ubuntu-is-a-pain/
[08:30] <silare> timewriter: Just did that... It reset everything, but my panel still hasn't fixed itself.
[08:31] <silare> All applets crash on startup.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: read that, it has pointer, you can then use the usual network icon in nautilus. Windows 7 is annoying and has a 'revised' samba with new authentication nonesense in it as well as some other apps causing grief
[08:31] <chachin> what are "sda1(nfts), sda5(unknown), sda6(linux), and sda2(ntfs) ???
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> chachin: partitions
[08:31] <chachin> oh
[08:31] <varundesai_> Hi Friends
[08:31] <timewriter> silare, you deleted .gnome2_private too ?
[08:31] <silare> yep.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> chachin: all on the same drive, sda
[08:31] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Thanks, reading it now. Yeah, I've tried a variety of methods and a couple of times I've been asked to log in... and I have no idea with what credentials I should be logging in.
[08:32] <jadespider> unknown ID?
[08:32] <timewriter> weird
[08:32] <jadespider> what sense does that make?
[08:32] <chachin> im trying to install ubuntu and win7 is already installed. but i wanna delete linux mint. cus i mess it up.. and now i want ubuntu..
[08:32] <silare> timewriter: Yeah... Is there a way for it to leave diagnostics in Terminal explaining why it crashed?
[08:32] <Poss> panic panic!   my kernel is panicing!
[08:32] <milokliz> how can i ensure that no network managers are controlling the card
[08:33] <Graet|> interesting, just tried on fresh install, no problems accessing windows 7 share
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> chachin: delete the windows mint partitions and you can install to the free space
[08:33] <eldurian> l
[08:33] <timewriter> silare, im not sure , but i had similar problems with my panels and deleting these folders fixed it
[08:33] <timewriter> did you relogged ?
[08:33] <chachin> should I delete "sda6(linux-swap)?
[08:33] <silare> timewriter: Yeah, just logged back in. o.o
[08:33] <jadespider> time to go chat arachnids :) take care
[08:33] <timewriter> weird
[08:33] <Poss> argh! I killed it, its all going to die, its all my fault, poor little ubuntu, now its just sitting there blinking and panicing
[08:34] <bazhang> !work | Poss
[08:34] <chachin> there's one called "sda(unknown) and its big 289.6GB :(
[08:34] <^Phantom^> does keeping drives that aren't in use unmounted help extend their lifetime?
[08:34] <timewriter> you can check .xsession-errors
[08:34]  * Poss tries to calm down 
[08:34] <costas> !beer Poss
[08:34] <Graet|> ubottu, described me :/
[08:34] <Poss> ok so im at my uncle's house, and i noticed that their copy of ubuntu was pretty old and needed a lot of updating
[08:34] <bazhang> costas, stop that
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> chachin: i would, then let the ubuntu installer do its thing
[08:35] <Poss> he was on karmic koala
[08:35] <milokliz> how can i ensure that no network managers are controlling the card
[08:35] <chachin> ok
[08:35] <Poss> since support is ended for karmic I hit upgrade to lynx, since its an LTS
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> chachin: big unknown sda isn't good. did you by any chance write a new partition table? :(
[08:35] <timewriter> LTS ownz
[08:35] <silare> timewriter: Looked through it... THough no luck so far. =/
[08:36] <varundesai_> exit
[08:36] <g_prakash> char * (*get_temp_buffer)( size_t n ); meaning?
[08:36] <timewriter> this might be a bit of a problem
[08:36] <Poss> three hours pass as its downloading and upgrading, then I come back and the screen is just saying "unsupported input", so i though "hmm" I'll reboot and see whats going on here
[08:36] <chachin> i have a 12.3GB for linux... but when i did that i chose 300Gb maybe i didnt do it right :S
[08:36] <timewriter> i dont know , install KDE , remove GNome
[08:36] <timewriter> then reinstall gnome
[08:36] <Poss> but on a straight reboot i just get too the ubuntu logo on a black screen, nothing else
[08:36] <timewriter> and remove kde
[08:36] <timewriter> :)
[08:37] <Poss> so then I restarted in recovery mode
[08:37] <g_prakash> Any body               char * (*get_temp_buffer)( size_t n );            meaning?
[08:37] <amit> how to know in which shell i am through command
[08:37] <Poss> last thing that happens is that app armor profiles fail to load and then run-init: /sbin/init: I/O error
[08:38] <Poss> followed by kernel panic
[08:38] <timewriter> I/O error ?
[08:38] <silare> timewriter: lol I'll look into it. THanks though for your help.
[08:38] <Poss> at which point I did as told and paniced
[08:38] <thebat> icr.neko-network.net
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> g_prakash: i'd ask in a programming channel
[08:38] <timewriter> silare, i didnt helped you at all :)
[08:38] <timewriter> i wish i would
[08:38] <timewriter> but youre welcome
[08:38] <silare> timewriter: Well, ya' tried. :P
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> chachin: as log as you haven't deleted the partitions you want
[08:38] <amit> wheher i m using /bin/bash or /bin/sh  how to check this through command?
[08:39] <Poss> so now I'm sitting here with my uncle and auntwanting to use the computer i just screwed by hitting update
[08:39] <timewriter> silare,
[08:39] <ohsix> g_prakash: get_temp_pointer is can hold a pointer to a function that returns char * and takes size_t n as a parameter
[08:39] <timewriter> you can try delete the panel
[08:39] <timewriter> then create it again
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Poss: it'll be quick :)
[08:39] <timewriter> maybe it will work
[08:39] <Poss> actionparsnip
[08:39] <Poss> suicide you mean?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Poss: no, the updates
[08:40] <Poss> the updates are finished
[08:40] <silare> timewriter: Tried that too. :[ Seems like it didn't work...
[08:40] <Poss> but the computer wont start
[08:40] <Poss> its stuck at a kernel panic
[08:40] <Poss> only I have no idea what or who this cornel panic is and why he has ruined the computer
[08:41] <milokliz> anyone how can i ensure that no network managers are controlling the card
[08:41] <ohsix> g_prakash: install cutils, theres a tool in it called cdecl; it will decode those for you ;]
[08:41] <silare> Poss: Kernel Panic = UNIX-based 'equivalent' of a BSoD
[08:41] <Poss> oh dear, that is in no way calming me down
[08:42] <silare> Poss: :/ Sowwie.
[08:42] <silare> But it's what it is. x_x; Scary lil' thing, that kernel panic.
[08:42] <Poss> so there is nothing I can do?
[08:42] <ohsix> in particular (it doesn't know of size_t so i changed it to an int: declare get_temp_buffer as pointer to function that expects (n as int) returning pointer to char;
[08:42] <chachin> f this im buying a new 2TB HDD if i fail at installing ubuntu the waiy I wanted :(
[08:43] <silare> Poss: Not sure... How'd the kernel panicking come to be?
[08:43] <chachin> throwing this 1TB hdd in the blending machin
[08:43] <Poss> I installed the update from karmic to lucid
[08:43] <diemos> chachin: no, take the platters out and throw them against something
[08:43] <Poss> I left it downloading for a bit, came back and it was dead
[08:43] <diemos> it's pretty.
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Poss: reboot, hold shift and select an older kernel
[08:44] <chachin> diemos:  or make a clock ^_^
[08:44] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: re: mounted & lifetimes, no; drives will go to sleep regardless of whether they're mounted as long as they're not being read from or written to; unmounting might keep that from happening ;]
[08:44] <Pete_> Does any one no how install xlink kai on this ubuntu
[08:44] <chachin> why does unubtu have a win vista partition?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> chachin: get a sharp implement, you can engrave them pretty well
[08:44] <^Phantom^> ohsix, ah okay, cause i always unmount when I'm done using them
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> chachin: it doesn't. If you use wubi you will have access to the host from /host
[08:45] <chachin> oh
[08:45] <silare> Poss: Using what?
[08:45] <chachin> im noob at this crap about dual booting
[08:46] <titanium> hello folks sorry im late
[08:46] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: lifetime is really only with it being used; and still MTBF is very high for modern stuff, stuff failing from wear vs. freak occurence is rare
[08:46] <^Phantom^> MTBF?  What is that?
[08:46] <ohsix> mean time between failures
[08:46] <titanium> anybody got mad skills at programming?
[08:47] <newb_j> hello!
[08:47] <chachin> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190
[08:47] <chachin> I bought this bad boy
[08:47] <Poss> ok so it was 2.6.31-17 that was failing,  2.6.31.14 fails as well. 2.6.10-5-386 fails too, but in a different way
[08:47] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Still can't connect to the share, mate :(
[08:47] <chachin> its awsome specially dd-wrt
[08:47] <ohsix> ^Phantom^: there was some hubub about head unloading in laptop drives some time ago; it really can make hay with ridiculously cheap drives like the one i had in my laptop before i replaced it :O
[08:47] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: I think I'm doing something wrong with the actual process
[08:48] <^Phantom^> ah
[08:48] <Poss> its moving too fast to read, but i think its saying its running into some kind of memory fault
[08:48] <^Phantom^> I have one drive that I keep religiously umounted since it's my backup drive and all.
[08:48] <titanium> love a good loop
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: can you ping the system with name and/or IP?
[08:49] <milokliz> anyone how can i ensure that no network managers are controlling the card
[08:49] <titanium> have a love affair with getkey
[08:49] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: in a terminal
[08:49] <Poss> 2.6.8  fails too same memory loop
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> milokliz: service network-manager status
[08:49] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: What do I type? Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to all this ><
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: so you have never pinged? even in windows?
[08:50] <newb_j> >_>
[08:50] <Lantizia> hey which gnome panel applet is the one with volume/bluetooth? i appear to have deleted it
[08:50] <newb_j> ><
[08:50] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Never
[08:50] <titanium> have yall got your storm tracker programs ready
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: fair enough, the command is:  ping -c 4 nameofserver
[08:50] <FightingNavyman> hi
[08:50] <Lantizia> nvm found it
[08:50] <FightingNavyman> its me chachin again
[08:50] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Seems to have worked
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: ok cool :)
[08:51] <FightingNavyman> yay got ubuntu installed :D
[08:51] <Poss> so every kernel on the system fails
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: ping is great for testing connectivity
[08:51] <FightingNavyman> ActionParsnip: what are some cool things to do now?
[08:51] <titanium> do gravitons have gravity?
[08:51] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Hehe yeah, at least I know they can talk to each other.
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> FightingNavyman: get fully updated is cool in my eyes, then get some codecs and DVD playack
[08:52] <SimonPHOENIX> how to add new mailbox to postfix?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: ok do you have a firewall on windows?
[08:52] <FightingNavyman> kk
[08:52] <SimonPHOENIX> i have not any users in /home
[08:53] <ale_> i, how do I check if firefox is 64bit or 32?
[08:53] <Poss> PiD: 1, comm: run-init Not Tainted 2.6.31-17-generic     Call Trace.. panic.. find new reaper...  forget original parent... exit_notify... do_exit.. sys_write,,, sys_exit..syscall_call     with a whole bunch of numbvers and hex code thrown in there too
[08:53] <Poss> any of this mean anything to anyone?
[08:53] <titanium> i like gravity. not a big fan of acceleration
[08:53] <Poss> I think I'm going to cry ;(
[08:53] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Yes I do, the Windows Firewall
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> ale_: what is the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep -i firef     use http://pastie.org to host the output. Thanks
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: ok, is it configured to allow access to the share?
[08:54] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure; I'll take a look at the control panel
[08:54] <FightingNavyman> ale_: look for "about firefox" ?
[08:54] <Poss> kernel panic..  find_new_reaper...   forget_original_parent..   those are things are an operating system just is never meant to say
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Poss: try booting to liveCD and fsck the partition as well as test your ram
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: you could disable it to test ;)
[08:54] <Poss> I don't have a livecd
[08:54] <ale_> ActionParsnip: well, linux IS running in 64bit
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Poss: then test ram from grub
[08:55] <Poss> kk
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> ale_: then the firefox will be 64bit too
[08:55] <titanium> heres some computer programming profanity- goto L
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> ale_: the apps will match the arch of your install unless you take extra steps
[08:55] <ale_> ActionParsnip: the output of dpkg is 3.6.13+build3_nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1
[08:55] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Just tried; it's not the firewall
[08:56] <FightingNavyman> i dont get how I download waaay faster on ubuntu and on win7 it downlaoads freaking slow
[08:56] <ale_> ActionParsnip: sure?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: cool, ok in ubuntu if you run: smbtree    do you see the share(s)
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ale_: positive
[08:56] <ale_> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot
[08:56] <FightingNavyman> win7 i get: 260kB/s and ubuntu gives me 530kB/s
[08:56] <titanium> must unite laws of physics into one cohesive whole
[08:56] <FightingNavyman> o.o
[08:56] <VxQe> Could someone please give me some advice re setting up ssh?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ale_: you can get 32bit firefox on 64bit ubuntu but it takes extra steps
[08:57] <titanium> must divide by zero
[08:57] <FightingNavyman> bbl
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: install openssh-server on the server side, it will run at startup and has x forwarding enabled by default
[08:57] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Hmm, no it's not there...
[08:57] <titanium> downloading laws of physics
[08:57] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: I can see the PC, but not the share.
[08:58] <FightingNavyman> wooo xchat rules :D
[08:58] <somethinginteres> I'm wondering why when people want their TV card to work with Ubuntu they generally need to go the Linux TV wiki and create a .conf file with specific values to get the card to work. Why does it not get automatically recognised as with other hardware (in a significant number of varying cases)
[08:58] <phrozen> -pl
[08:58] <VxQe> Right, ssh is working that is not the issue. The problem I am having is that I have root login disabled in ssh_config and also passwordauthentication disabled but can still login as root with a password.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: if you press ALT+F2 and run:   smb://hostname/sharename     does it connect (change hostname to the name of the PC, and share name to the name of the share you created)
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: did you restart the sshd service after editting the config?
[08:59] <titanium> created tennis versus calculator
[08:59] <VxQe> Yep.
[08:59] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: No it didn't... does that mean I haven't shared correctly?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> titanium: do you have an ubuntu question?
[08:59] <titanium> yes
[08:59] <Lantizia> can i stop rhythmbox removing stuff from it's queue?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: its worth double checking but you can connect from ubuntu using that in a run box
[08:59] <titanium> whats green and brown and if it falls out of a tree it will kill you?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> titanium: thats not ubuntu related, can you please respect the channel rules
[09:00] <milokliz> anyone how can i ensure that no network managers are controlling the card
[09:00] <titanium> what subject is being discussed here
[09:01] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: When I connect to the box using Nautilus, I only see a folder called "print$"
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> titanium: ubuntu support ONLY
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: then the share is bad
[09:01] <titanium> you think im funny dont you
[09:01] <bonjoyee> Lantizia: what do you mean exactly?
[09:01] <FightingNavyman> ActionParsnip, why dont you have +o or +v you seem to be the only one who helps in here :(
[09:01] <titanium> ill leave if necessary
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> titanium: replace 'funny' with 'annoying' and you are getting close
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> titanium: you are welcome to stay
[09:02] <Lantizia> bonjoyee, "what do you mean exactly?" <- oh dear oh dear
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> titanium: just keep to the rules of the channel
[09:02] <titanium> dont like to say anything unless its witty
[09:02] <soreau> Does wmctrl work for anyone else? Seems to be utterly broken here. Silent failure
[09:02] <Lantizia> anyone else?
[09:02] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: When I check it out in my networks folder of the Windows box, the share comes up fine. Something's getting lost on the way to Ubuntu :p
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> FightingNavyman: i'm regular but not op, although I do have my cloak :)
[09:03] <FightingNavyman> a3Dman,  wake up bro
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: try a reboot, windows loves that stuff
[09:03] <FightingNavyman> damn taking for ever to do updates
[09:03] <ale_> I would like to install Java-JRE and the firefox plug-in. Should I just install it from synaptic or should I manually install it? I've heard there is a 64bit version, which I would like to use..
[09:03] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Already did, a minute ago haha
[09:03] <FightingNavyman> what i love about ubuntu is I dont have to restart pc for changes to take effects
[09:04] <ikonia> FightingNavyman: you do for some
[09:04] <FightingNavyman> but very little
[09:04] <FightingNavyman> unlike windows u gotta update for every single update
[09:04] <FightingNavyman> restart pc**
[09:04] <Poss> so my uncle just informed me that before i updated they'd been getting "harddrive failure immenent" warnings :/
[09:04] <FightingNavyman> damn wtf am I on D:
[09:04] <FightingNavyman> i keep talking weird
[09:05] <Logan_WP> !language | FightingNavyman
[09:05]  * jfm` is away: Je ne suis pas là
[09:05] <FightingNavyman> o.O
[09:05] <FightingNavyman> wtf
[09:05] <FightingNavyman> tab will freaking spam people on xchat :|
[09:05] <titanium> could you suggest a place for me to go
[09:05] <FightingNavyman> oops sorry abotut that
[09:06] <hilarie> !ot
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: that's all I got dude, maybe others can help but you now know the fundamentals. Maybe reboot ubuntu and the router
[09:07] <titanium> you cant just beam me there can you. im new at this
[09:07] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Roger; thanks for your help, I really appreciate the effort.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Poss: d'oh. time for a new drive and a data restore
[09:07] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: I should just shoot my windows box, really.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: no worries dude, I appreciate the thanks :)
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> titanium: just type:   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:09] <Petfrogg> hello
[09:11] <Petfrogg> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-10.10 <- following this. I got stuck on "vmbuilder kvm ubuntu -c vm2.cfg"
[09:11] <FightingNavyman> omg
[09:11] <Petfrogg> i get three lines about stuff going correct and then it holds
[09:12] <iszak> What's the repercussions of doing sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches every five minutes?
[09:13] <ale_> anyone?
[09:13] <iszak> ale_, what was your q?
[09:13] <Oli``> Anybody know if there's a PPA for the beta nvidia drivers? Like a beta version of the X-Swat PPA
[09:13] <Petfrogg> ale_  just arrived - restate your q
[09:13] <Poss> well aparently the "hard drive failure immenent" message had been happening for over 12 months, so they didn't think it was a problem
[09:13] <Petfrogg> Poss, restate you q
[09:14] <Poss> and now my uncle is ranting about open source software being shit because you need to update it..
[09:14] <ale_> I would like to install Java-JRE and the firefox plug-in in Ubuntu 10.04. Should I just install it from synaptic or should I manually install it? I've heard there is a 64bit version, which I would like to use..
[09:14] <Poss> "i still have a win 95 box in the workshop which works fine!"
[09:14] <iszak> Poss, rm -fr /bin
[09:14] <Petfrogg> Poss: remove autoupdate and dont give him root password
[09:14] <iszak> i would keep updates, just make it silent somehow.
[09:14] <iszak> but put him on a LTS.
[09:14] <Petfrogg> ale_ go for the ubuntu version
[09:15] <Poss> petfrogg yeah the problem is that I, in my infinite wisdom ran update to 10.04 and its killed the computer entirely
[09:15] <ale_> Petfrogg: but I understood is 32bit
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: these guys have the 270 driver: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[09:15] <Petfrogg> ale_, havent tried it but my recomendation would be to go for the repo stuff first - ant then we can debug it
[09:16] <Poss> so I gues the only solution is to spend the next two days downloading a live cd and then attempting to save all their business data :/
[09:16] <Petfrogg> Poss: it killed the harddrive?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Poss: they don't have a backup?
[09:16] <ale_> ok, thanks for your help
[09:16] <Petfrogg> Poss: just go out and get them a new harddrive
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Poss: like, seriously!?
[09:17] <Petfrogg> install the new operating system and then get slap the old disk in and image it straight away
[09:17] <Poss> the backup is on a second harddrive in the same computer
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Poss: thats fine, only the system drive is dying
[09:17] <Petfrogg> Poss, ActionParsnip: i agree with A
[09:18] <Poss> so then yeah, wait a couple of days for he live cd to download, then install to the working disk then copy the data scross?
[09:18] <Oli``> ActionParsnip: it's an old version - I need the very latest for GTX580 support
[09:18] <MACscr-mobile> With livecd, the proprietary wireless firmware was available for my lappy, but not after full install. Wth? Can I get the drivers from the USB install?
[09:18] <thauriswulfa> where can i get games for ubuntu
[09:18] <Petfrogg> MACscr-mobile, there is a box for checking that you do allow 3rd party softeware not under opensource licens
[09:19] <Poss> hi thauriswulfa, playdeb.net is pretty good :)
[09:19] <Petfrogg> MACscr-mobile, check it and install what you need
[09:19] <Poss> i was sure I had left this horrid soul burning angst behind when I left windoze :/
[09:19] <Poss> I really need to stop doing tech support
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: I just went to nvidia.com and said I had your video chip under Linux and it suggested the 260 driver
[09:20] <MACscr-mobile> Petfrogg: Where?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-ia32-260.19.36-driver-uk.html    expand the "supported products" section
[09:20] <Petfrogg> Poss: make sure the autoupdate is set to off, sshd is on and you dont give him the root password
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: so you don't NEED it at all
[09:21] <Poss> all those things were already the case petgrogg, it was me that hit update
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Poss: btw your OS isn't to blame if the hardware physically dies
[09:22] <Petfrogg> MACscr-mobile, go into "Update Manager" and under the button "Settings.." go through that
[09:22] <Poss> yeah, but i am still to blame if I hit update and it kills the computer :P
[09:23] <MACscr-mobile> ?
[09:23] <Poss> well thanks guys
[09:23] <Poss> at least I know what happened now :)
[09:23] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: I've figured it out, strangely.
[09:23] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Alt + F2, then smb://<windows box IP>
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: sweet!!!
[09:24] <Petfrogg> MACscr-mobile, "System->Administration->Update Manager" and then under "Settings.." on 10.10
[09:24] <boogzter> Poss: You could always try the HDD/freezer trick and maybe buy enough time to snag an image. (if it's unbootable)
[09:24] <MACscr-mobile> I have no internet on the laptop without the wireless. So how can I use the update manager
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Poss: I guess, i will work the drive some
[09:24] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: I have no idea why it didn't work any other way, but there you go :p
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> AegisX: its working so who cares :)
[09:24] <Poss> oh actually, while I'm here, I have another question for myself, not so dire
[09:25] <wcg> dsdsds
[09:25] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Yep. Workarounds are way better than no workarounds. But thanks again; your Alt+F2 trick worked well :)
[09:25] <wcg> HI
[09:26] <Poss> I'm pretty sure when i installed my version of 10.10 there was a little icon up the top right that launched empathy, only I did something at some point and now it only works from the menu. is ther esome way to get it back?
[09:26] <Poss> and maybe a volume icon too? :)
[09:26] <wcg> 这个聊天工具好简单呀
[09:26] <moustiK_> whats the problem MACscr
[09:26] <cutiyar> before when i played a video the .flv file would saved to tmp folder but now didn't
[09:27] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: Here is a script I made to "undelete" those .flv files: http://pastebin.com/F9qP9W3A
[09:28] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: Replace "chrome" with whatever browser you use.
[09:28] <MACscr-mobile> Moustik_: no wireless after install from USB. Can't seem to access 3rd party firmware without internet even though it worked during liveusb
[09:28] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, thanks but when to put these?
[09:29] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: I don't understand the question.
[09:29]  * Jordan_U should clean up that script and publish it properly
[09:29] <hedhorm_> Where can i find Compaq S200 Driver for linux
[09:29] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i put thesecode to which file?
[09:30] <StepNjump> Hi guys, maybe someone could help me. I have a netbook here and everytime my power source interrupts, the system logs me off so I need to log back in. The problem is my power connector became loose with time. Any suggestion so that when it runs out of power, ubuntu won't everytime log me off?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: You can name it anything you want. It's a bash script, so you need to give it execute permissions then run "/path/to/script" in a terminal to run it.
[09:32] <StepNjump> ok guys, good night
[09:32] <yourwhiteshadow> StepNjump: this is a serious problem, there really isn't a software solution
[09:32] <boogzter> StepNjump: Try wrapping the power cord around the netbook to create a slight but consistent tention, so the power wont be interrupted when the cord gets moved, etc.
[09:33] <Poss> that was a good suggestion boogzter, i might try that with my network cable
[09:33] <boogzter> Guess I'm too slow lol
[09:34] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i saved file in desktop and named it to bash ,if i want to run it just type bash in terminal?
[09:35] <sandstrom> What's the reasonable memory usage for a basic ubuntu server setup (top processes running is init, sshd, syslog, cron and a few others). No major apps
[09:35] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: No. I recommend a less confusing name, I call it "undelflv" and you would run it like "Desktop/undelflv" in the terminal.
[09:35] <boogzter> G'nite guys... thanks for the clinic :)
[09:36] <metallico> guys, i cant find the "repair broken installation" option on my ubuntu CD. does such option exist and where is it supposed to be?
[09:37] <novitololo> Hi, I downloaded jQueryUi.custom.zip and I can't extract the files in ubuntu.  I can do it in windows. Can it be because it is a .custom.zip ?
[09:37] <Jordan_U> metallico: It's only on the alternate install CD.
[09:37] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i changed it and it say http://pastebin.com/39s497se
[09:38] <metallico> so that's different than ubuntu-desktop?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: If you're in the Desktop directory already then you need to run "./undelflv".
[09:39] <stone22> Hi
[09:39] <stone22> perhaps anyone here can help me with my broken ubuntu
[09:40] <stone22> gnome-panel and metacity do not start automatically any more
[09:40] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/qxuxUdYr
[09:41] <osmosis_paul> could be very complex but somebody know how can i create an script that read my syslog and copy a secction of this log file since one date of the file
[09:41] <Poss> what is wrong with it stone 22?
[09:42] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: The line numbers aren't part of the script. This is a link to just the text of the script: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=F9qP9W3A
[09:42] <stone22> my system boots with a blank screen. no gui :(
[09:42] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: read in realtime ? if not use sed
[09:43] <osmosis_paul> well realtime when cron finish his task i want copy that secction in the syslog and send an email
[09:43] <osmosis_paul> that's mean copy the secction of the syslog since sctm-one minute and the end of the file
[09:44] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i created new was run but nothing happened http://pastebin.com/RcUp7iDW
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> stone22: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[09:44] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: What browser are you using?
[09:44] <stone22> Poss: so there has to be something wrong with the config files in gnome, but i dont know how to fix this. removed ubuntu-desktop completely and reinstalled it.
[09:44] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i created new was run but nothing happened http://pastebin.com/RcUp7iDW
[09:45] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, firefox
[09:45] <cutiyar> awwww
[09:45] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i changed chrome to ff
[09:45] <Romeo_BCN> for join to server irc-hispano what make?
[09:45] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i changed chrome to ff
[09:45] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: sed -n '/sctm-one/,$p' syslog > syslog_section
[09:45] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, i changed chrome to firefox
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> stone22: ubuntu-desktop is a hollow metapackage, it won't remove anything but itself
[09:46] <Poss> hrmm I'm just another user mate
[09:46] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: Please don't repeat your messages.
[09:46] <sharrow> Anyone got an idea why installing ubuntu netbook 10.10 on an Eee 1000H would fail with CPU softlock on the Xorg process?
[09:46] <Romeo_BCN> alguien habla español?
[09:46] <Jordan_U> !es | Romeo_BCN
[09:46] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, wow and what it is syslog_section
[09:46] <osmosis_paul> Romeo_BCN, tienes el canal ubuntu Castellano creo
[09:46] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: the file with the section you wanted.
[09:46] <erUSUL> !es | Romeo_BCN
[09:47] <Petfrogg> back...
[09:47] <stone22> ActionParsnip: thxs for the link but i dont think that in my case the graphic card is the problem. because it worked before
[09:47] <Poss> have you tried Deleting ~/.gnome2/session and restarting gnome?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> sharrow: you need to add the boot option:   acpi_osi=Linux
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> stone22: its free to try
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> sharrow: you can add it in /etc/default/grub once you get an installed desktop.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> sharrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[09:48] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, what i do?
[09:48] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, so the section that i want? i think i dont understand very much. i'm gonna try
[09:48] <sharrow> ActionParsnip: and it's copying files now
[09:48] <Poss> stone22 System->Preferences->Session. On tab "Startup Programs", click the "Add" button and type in "Metacity" as the Name and "/usr/bin/metacity" as the command to run the application.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> sharrow: ok then let it finish and such
[09:48] <Poss> then it should start every time
[09:48] <Poss> its not a fix, but a workaround
[09:49] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: the file contains from the line that has sctm-one to the end of the file. you can refine the regex if you want
[09:49] <sharrow> I tried it with acpi=off but apparently that wasn't the right incantation
[09:49] <sharrow> Aw yeah
[09:49] <stone22> Poss: i dont have a menu
[09:49] <sss> How do I find out what USB ports I have?
[09:49] <erUSUL> sss: lsusb
[09:49] <Poss> stone22: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466754
[09:49] <stone22> Poss: only a background and as mousepointer wich is a cross
[09:49] <sss> erUSUL, thanks
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> sss: lshw-gtk   may tell you too
[09:50] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: It looks like the script needs to be changed more than that to work with Firefox. I'm working on it now.
[09:51] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, ok i will test it now with chrome
[09:51] <Poss> stone22 you should be able to bring up the terminal through a keyboard shortcut and then manually start gnome panel
[09:52] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, but the undelted flv where would save?
[09:52] <stone22> Poss: this is not possible either. i only can do ctrl+alt+f1
[09:52] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: To /tmp/. It will print the exact path that it copies the file to (and from).
[09:52] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, the only information that i can have is a date "Feb 18 00:15:05 ip-10-226-199-7 " for example and tell that i want the file from that date to the end of the file
[09:53] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: then use Feb 18 00:15:05 ip-10-226-199-7 as regex
[09:53] <stone22> is it possible to do a reinstall with default settings for gnome?
[09:53] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, insert that info in the syslog_section?
[09:54] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: 0.o!
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> stone22: most are stored in ~/.config or ~/.gnome2 etc
[09:54] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: sed -n '/Feb 18 00:15:05 ip-10-226-199-7/,$p' syslog > syslog_section
[09:54] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, sorry mate i dont get it yet how works the query that you send to me
[09:54] <ale_> how do I add a script to init.d? I'd like to run it at boot..
[09:54] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, iam playing video on youtube but didint show any thing in temp/ folder
[09:55] <erUSUL> ale_: run it from /etc/rc.local if it is simple stuff
[09:55] <rumpe1> ale_, update-rc.d
[09:55] <stone22> ActionParsnip: so deleting the config files and do a reinstall could help. i will try
[09:55] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: Any output when you run the undelflv script?
[09:55] <rumpe1> ale_, or for simple tasks just add to /etc/rc.local
[09:55] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, no
[09:55] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: Did you change firefox back to chrome?
[09:56] <ale_> I added the command to system->preferences->startup applications, but it doesn't start automatically.. is that possible?
[09:56] <rumpe1> ale_, init.d is for daemons, not for simple scripts
[09:56] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, wow!!!! works!!! genius!!!!!
[09:56] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, its working thanks
[09:56] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, thanks a lot buddy!\
[09:56] <Jordan_U> cutiyar: You'r welcome.
[09:56] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: no problem
[09:56] <ale_> yes, it's a simple command
[09:57] <cutiyar> Jordan_U, if u do it with ff would very good to me
[09:57] <rumpe1> ale_, then i would recommend /etc/rc.local
[09:57] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, thanks a lot buddy!
[09:58] <Poss> stone22: from alt + ctrl + f1 you should be able to enter in: rm -Rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[09:58] <Poss> then when you switch back with ctrl +alt+f7 you should have gnome panel back
[09:58] <ale_> rumpe1: thanks
[09:58] <sharrow> ActionParsnip: Thanks very much, I'm good now.
[09:59] <osmosis_paul> well if i use date in the command line i receive this "Fri Feb 18 09:54:51 UTC 2011" somebody know how can i get from the system only this "Fri Feb 18 09:54:51 " and use as variable in a shell script
[10:00] <Glutsch> osmosis_paul : man bash, good luck...
[10:00] <VCoolio> osmosis_paul: man date, play with the options, like date "+%D %d" etc
[10:01] <stone22> Poss: thxs i try and tell u the results
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !panelfix
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[10:02] <VCoolio> osmosis_paul: date "+%a %b %d %T"
[10:02] <Poss> the parsnip has the skills
[10:02] <stone22> Poss: deleted all directorys and switched back, but still only background and mousepointer
[10:03] <osmosis_paul> VCoolio, thanks a lot
[10:03] <llutz> osmosis_paul: read " man date " to see a list of all format-vars
[10:03] <osmosis_paul> llutz, yep i'm on it
[10:04] <pinnacle> !games
[10:04] <pinnacle> !chess
[10:04] <Poss> well i've exhausted my knowledge, maybe one of the gurus here can help
[10:04] <riosgrp90> sup, i'm a new linux user. I just spent the entire night learning bash scripting and how to use vim. Someone please reassure that this is actually going to be useful. :(
[10:04] <leveldoc> what's up?
[10:04] <riosgrp90> me*
[10:05] <leveldoc> don't use vim
[10:05] <pinnacle> !gnome
[10:05] <leveldoc> use emacs :-p
[10:05] <riosgrp90> durffff
[10:05] <riosgrp90> back to the drawing board
[10:05] <pinnacle> !speed
[10:05] <pinnacle> !optimize
[10:06] <llutz> !bot | pinnacle
[10:06] <pinnacle> !Thanks
[10:07] <stone22> ok another try. how can all packages of a metapackage can be removed?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> riosgrp90: if you need bash scripting to do what you need, then sure it's useful
[10:08] <riosgrp90> actionparsnip: this is all one big experiment so at this point i'm not sure what I need yet. :)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> riosgrp90: I'd spend time just getting used to the OS and use it for what you need. If you determine you need scripts then use them
[10:10] <moustiK_> try nano way simpler but heretic lol
[10:10] <moustiK_> zhs for shell
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> +1 for nano
[10:10] <riosgrp90> actionparsnip: fair enough, my goal is to learn coding and linux system administration for work but i'm sort of doing it on my own
[10:11] <k5egg> spambot.
[10:12] <mikunos> hi guys why my VPN connection terminates after 2 minutes?
[10:12] <mikunos> http://pastie.org/1578107
[10:12]  * jfm` is back (gone 01:07:22)
[10:13] <mikunos> any idea?
[10:13] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Gotta say mate, your willingness to help out is admirable.
[10:13] <llutz> mikunos: increase verbosity level to get more informative logs
[10:13] <mikunos> llutz: hi, how have I do it?
[10:13] <rapha> Hi all!
[10:13] <AegisX> Also, everyone else who has been helping! I'm not singling him out, but he helped me and I notice his name more when it pops up :p
[10:14] <llutz> mikunos: check your ppp-options
[10:14] <rapha> Does anybody know how to set up EDUROAM access with network-manager?
[10:14] <AegisX> I'm very impressed by the Ubuntu community so far
[10:14] <llutz> mikunos: and check the vpn-logs too
[10:14] <mikunos> ok
[10:17] <ecinx3> i have 60mb of free memory is that bad? disk cache = 5.69gb total physical mem is 8gb
[10:17] <Petfrogg> ecinx: depends on what you tend to do
[10:17] <erUSUL> ecinx3: no; it is not bad
[10:17] <erUSUL> !ram > ecinx3
[10:18] <ecinx> how do i read the msg?
[10:18] <ecinx> im on xchat
[10:18] <erUSUL> !ram
[10:19] <ecinx> nm wrong computer
[10:19] <ecinx3> lol
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ecret: kinda, what are you running?
[10:21] <ajah> i don`t have any unllocated space so my last partition are /dev/sda3 etx4 and /dev/sda4 ntfs and i want to resize the ntfs taking the free space from the sda3
[10:21] <stone22> with aptitude metapackages can be removed :)
[10:21] <ajah> how to do that
[10:21] <taran> when I open website from Command line I am asekd username and passowrd as Im behind a proxy? what can b done so that Im not asked username and password?
[10:21] <bartj> how do I know how much swap space was allocated ?
[10:21] <ecinx3> is there any software that can check memory timinngs?
[10:21] <ecinx3> and speed
[10:22] <bartj> ecinx3, top
[10:22] <ecinx3> better yet, if i don't have access to tminigs in my BIOS is it possible to change them?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> taran: there is proxy settings app in system -> admin (my be preferences)
[10:23] <osmosis_paul> somebody can tell me what i have wrong when i generate the DATE variable in that script i can not fix the problem!! http://pastecode.org/index.php/view/39498055
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> taran: or you can run: export http_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.net:port/
[10:23] <osmosis_paul> i try escape all the quotes but nothing
[10:23] <taran> ActionParsnip: I did it well yet Im asked again and again in Command line
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> taran: as well as: export ftp_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.net:port/
[10:23] <ecinx3> bartj,  i don't see it in top
[10:23] <taran> ActionParsnip: can u give me complete command which I can use for this?
[10:24] <bartj> ecinx3, I am not sure what you mean by speed ?
[10:24] <bartj> CPU speed ?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> taran: I just did, once you verify they work, you can add them in ~/.bashrc
[10:24] <Grav> Hi. I'm trying to install libxml2-dev on Ubuntu 10.10, but I'm getting error: libxml2-dev : Depends: libxml2 (= 2.7.7.dfsg-4) but 2.7.7.dfsg-4ubuntu0.1 is to be installed. How can I resolve it?
[10:24] <taran> ActionParsnip: ok,thans Im trying
[10:24] <fredrik_> join #ubuntu-se
[10:25] <kisuke> is anyone else having a problem with 10.10 and nvidia-current?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> fredrik_: prefix with a slash
[10:25] <llutz> osmosis_paul: DATE=$(date '+%a %b %d + 00:15:00')
[10:26] <ecinx3> bartj 1066MHz for speed cas 7 for timings
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Grav: in what release?
[10:26] <Grav> ActionParsnip:  10.10
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Grav: 32bit or 64bit?
[10:26] <mikunos> llutz: here the log http://pastie.org/1578107
[10:26] <Grav> ActionParsnip: 32bit
[10:26] <Senjai> hey all
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Grav: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58965968/libxml2-dev_2.7.7.dfsg-4ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[10:27] <dezahn> piip
[10:27] <dezahn> just checking out this new xchat version
[10:27] <dezahn> off ->
[10:28] <Grav> ActionParsnip:  Thanks.
[10:28] <llutz> mikunos: your using a firewall filtering ICMP?
[10:28] <taran> where is ~/.bashrc
[10:28] <fredrik_> ActionParsnip, Thanks.. I slipped ;-)
[10:28] <mikunos> llutz: sorry but I am a newbie
[10:28] <kisuke> taran: /home/username/.bashrc/
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> taran: that is the file. what you asked is the same as:  where is C:\boot.ini
[10:29] <mikunos> llutz: what do you mean?
[10:29] <soreau> taran: ~/ = $HOME
[10:29] <osmosis_paul> llutz thanks now DATE looks nice but the sed command does not works "sed: -e expression #1, char 4: unterminated address regex" i think we have the same problem with the quotes there, gonna take a look, thanks!!!\
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> taran: like soreau said :)
[10:29] <fredrik_> Suddenly my compiz wallpaper plugin stoped working. I get the wallpaper that is in the "appearance" setting..  What did I do?
[10:29] <taran> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> taran: $HOME == /home/$USER
[10:29] <tawan> Is Unity supposed to have a clock in the top bar?
[10:29] <kisuke> taran: you cna go into it by typing ~/.bashrc from a terminal, files and folder that start with a . are the linux equivilent of window's hidden files
[10:30] <llutz> osmosis_paul: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:30] <kisuke> is anyone else having a problem with 10.10 and nvidia-current?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> tawan: yes
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> tawan: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4B7ZWQHqMpk/TOUTAedsOkI/AAAAAAAAAH0/uRp7Ftq9x4k/s1600/unity_ars-thumb-640xauto-17498.jpg
[10:30] <zamba> archive.canonical.com down?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: works fine here
[10:31] <tawan> ActionParsnip: ok I'm in Unity 3D and no clock, wonder if I broke it
[10:31] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: damnit, i lose GDM every time i install it, andi need it for xbmc and mythtv
[10:31] <osmosis_paul> llutz, this sed -n '/Fri Feb 18 + 00:15:00
[10:31] <llutz> mikunos: sorry only thing to examine i see is that " closing control connection due to missing echo reply" part.
[10:31] <taran> cant find ~./bashrc
[10:31] <llutz> osmosis_paul: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig    and reboot
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> taran: in a terminal run:   gedit ~/.bashrc
[10:31] <mikunos> llutz: maybe there is the dead pear connection problem
[10:31] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: wish me luck
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> taran: or in command line: nano ~/.bashrc     both are fine
[10:32] <osmosis_paul> llutz,  this sed -n '/Fri Feb 18 + 00:15:00/,$p' syslog > syslog_section
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: if you get no X, boot to recovery root and rename /etc/X11/xorg.cof
[10:32] <taran> ActionParsnip: ok.I got it
[10:32] <llutz> osmosis_paul: are you trying to extract mail-logs from systlog?  pls answer
[10:32] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: i dont leave tty1 and gdm says its running...
[10:32] <osmosis_paul> llutz, cron logs
[10:32] <taran> ActionParsnip: in order to permanently save my username and password for proxy what should be done here?
[10:33] <osmosis_paul> already has this sed -n '/'$DATE'/,$p' /var/log/syslog > syslog.mail
[10:33] <llutz> osmosis_paul: why not using own logfiles for cron?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> taran: you can use the .bashrc file, or the proxy config in the settings
[10:33] <osmosis_paul> llutz, as far as i know all jobs of cron are in syslog
[10:33] <stanman246> hi in here. I've got a new pc containing w7. I want to change that into a kvm win7 on ubuntu. Is there anyone who did this before?
[10:34] <llutz> osmosis_paul: reconfigure your (r)syslog to get own cron-logs
[10:34] <zamba> 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't yield anything.. i'm guessing that contacts canonical?
[10:34] <llutz> osmosis_paul: much easier than what you're trying
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> taran: if you copy the export commands you ran earlier, to .bashrc it will be used
[10:35] <llutz> osmosis_paul: if using rsyslog, create "/etc/rsyslog.d/cron with this 2 lines: cron.*  /var/log/cron.log
[10:35] <osmosis_paul> llutz, almost finish i check that works and i want get only a secction of the log, i just need scape propertly the varialbe  in the querty
[10:35] <llutz> osmosis_paul: cron.* ~
[10:35] <taran> ActionParsnip: do u mean this to save username and passwword "export ftp_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.net:port/"?
[10:35] <llutz> osmosis_paul: and put a # in start of the cron... line in /etc/rsyslogd.conf
[10:36] <osmosis_paul> llutz, yes but i'm creating an daily report so i need to use sed anyway
[10:36] <osmosis_paul> llutz, i just want the secction of log of today at this time just when finish the task
[10:37] <llutz> osmosis_paul: grep $DATE /var/log/syslog >syslog.mail
[10:37] <adeee> hay guys whenever i try to connect with phpmyadmin igot this error "#2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server" can anybody help me?
[10:37] <adeee> hay guys whenever i try to connect with phpmyadmin igot this error "#2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server" can anybody help me?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> taran: yes, add that in ~/.bashrc as well as the ftp one, then after you save the new file, run:  source ~/.bashrc
[10:38] <osmosis_paul> llutz, do you know sed?, do yopu know what i'm trying to do?
[10:38] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: looks like there is a fubar in the post install setup for nvidia-current, didnt register the screen completely.
[10:38] <adeee> hay guys whenever i try to connect with phpmyadmin igot this error "#2002 Cannot log in to the MySQL server" can anybody help me?
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> llutz, this is the original and is working  sed -n '/Fri Feb 18 + 00:15:00/,$p' syslog > syslog_section  and this is that i have in my script sed -n '/'$DATE'/,$p' /var/log/syslog > syslog.mail
[10:39] <osmosis_paul> llutz, is a problem with a quote but i can not see it!
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> adeee: did you set an account for your SQL?
[10:40] <adeee> yes its root acount
[10:40] <kisuke> addisonj: your phpmyadmin is not logging into mysql, either because mysql is not installed/running or the username/password combonation you have is wrong
[10:40] <llutz> osmosis_paul: sed -n '/${DATE}/...
[10:40] <taran> ActionParsnip: I saved it in ~/.bashrc where else do I write it again ?
[10:41] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: mysqlsetup makes you set up at least a root account which AFAIK is the account that phpmyadmin uses.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> taran: as long as you have the http_proxy and ftp_proxy correctly defined in the file, just run:  source ~/.bashrc   and it will work
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: then i'd ask in a PHP channel, it's more specific to your issue
[10:42] <taran> ActionParsnip: where do I make another change after I wrote Export comand in /.bashrc
[10:42] <abhinav_singh1> how to give name to screen through screen command
[10:43] <taran> ActionParsnip: is that file in apt directory?
[10:43] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: you mean adeee?
[10:43] <taran> ActionParsnip: or is it in apt.conf
[10:44] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: use double quotes or $DATE would not spand. and you only need one pair
[10:44] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: sed -n "/${DATE}/,$p" /var/log/syslog > syslog.mail
[10:45] <erUSUL> osmosis_paul: also is bad practice to use all caps in variables
[10:45] <taran> ActionParsnip: when I run the command source ~/.bashrc and tried to run the command w3m www.rediff.com it again asked for username and password as usual
[10:45] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, thanks gonna try
[10:46] <zetheroo> This command is not working for me: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:46] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, nope error. sed: -e expression #1, char 24: unexpected `,'
[10:46] <zetheroo> I get a message saying: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> taran: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html
[10:46] <zetheroo> can someone try it out for me?
[10:46] <fredrik_> my compiz wallpaper plugin stoped working. Now only showing the wallpaper from "system->preferences->appearance"
[10:47] <taran> ActionParsnip: ok.im studying
[10:47] <alex__> vsem privet
[10:47] <kisuke> zetheroo: thats not a full command, at least it doesnt look right to my eyes, are you tring to install wine?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> taran: also for apt.conf: http://blogs.sun.com/avinashjoshi/entry/using_apt_get_behind_a
[10:47] <daxroc> Morning all
[10:47] <zetheroo> kisuke: trying to install ies 4 linux
[10:47] <faenor> zetheroo: GNU/Linux, not linux
[10:47] <zetheroo>  faenor: come again!?
[10:48] <kisuke> zetheroo: you are tring to install IE on a *nix box?
[10:48] <zetheroo> kisuke: yep ... IE's 4 Linux
[10:48] <daxroc> After a recent update my eclipse install has been hanging quite regular , Anyone know if there were any issues with java lately ?
[10:48] <zetheroo> kisuke: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation
[10:48] <faenor> zetheroo: GNU/Linux, not linux
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: why not simply run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[10:48] <kisuke> zetheroo: what tutorial are you following?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: and it's all handled for you
[10:48] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: isint that just wine?
[10:49] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, if i use with simple quotes sed -n '/${DATE}/,$p' /var/log/syslog > syslog.mail dont give me the other error that i told you, but dont find the syslog file :-(
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: its the wine ppa
[10:49] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I already have WINE installed
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: cool
[10:49] <moustiK_> GNU/Linux . Linus is a genius but Richard Stallman and co are unjustly forgotten.
[10:49] <Wulfy> ActionParsnip,  ppa?
[10:49] <zetheroo> faenor: what's your point!?
[10:49] <osmosis_paul> erUSUL, and for sure that must work because with the query with the phisical date that you give before works very nice
[10:50] <kisuke> moustiK_: GNU/linux is more a pipe dream at this point than anything else.
[10:50] <faenor> kisuke: GNU/Linux, not linux
[10:50] <kisuke> faenor: thats what i just said
[10:50] <moustiK_> ppa =a repository  of precompiled debs compatible with your ubuntu and addings software not avalaible in the standard repos
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: the file doesn't exist
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: the stupid -q option they have added is hiding that fact
[10:51] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: oh I see ...  that whole bit was to install WINE ... which I already installed from synaptic
[10:51] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I'll just jump to the next step which is downloading and installing IE
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: if you run:   sudo apt-get update   you will get a GPG error, if you give that error I can give the command to import the key
[10:51] <Dazzled> Oh boy, here we go again
[10:52] <Wulfy> zetheroo,  why on earth would you need ie? it breaks almost ever rule in web browsing standerds lol
[10:52] <toxic> hello everyone !
[10:52] <Dazzled> Ubuntu won't boot anymore (worked fine last night)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: what happens when you try
[10:52] <zetheroo> Wulfy: honestly ... I hate it ... I need it to test web sites out with and log in remotely to the office
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Wulfy: possibly web page testing
[10:52] <Dazzled> I get greeted with a "Installation problem" The default configuration for GNOME energy management is not installed correctly
[10:52] <toxic> Does someone have a solution for me : my aptitude upgrade was stopped since the ssh session was interrupted (connexion problems). Now lots of packages refuses to get upgraded/configured
[10:53] <Dazzled> Please contact your system administrator
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: for a true test i'd use a virtualbox, i wouldnt trust anything this app can provide
[10:53] <Dazzled> (I translated it from Dutch, so it might differ)
[10:53] <Wulfy> ActionParsnip, , zetheroo fair enough but *shudders*
[10:54] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I do run VirtualBox as well with Win7 and WinXP etc ... but I was hoping this would be a bit less time consuming ... heh
[10:54] <Dazzled> the login screen is blue/gray where it is orange/grey otherwhise
[10:54] <zetheroo> Wulfy: I know ... I am full of shudders ;)
[10:54] <Dazzled> and when I try to login, it just reboots and shows me this again
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: do you have free space i all your partitions?
[10:55] <taran> ActionParsnip: I did exactly as provided here http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html but Im again asked for username and password
[10:56] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip: I don't know for sure, I think I had one or 2 gigs left on the Ubuntu partition
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: try the suggestions by Jacqui here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=52063&p=321202
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> taran: try a reboot if its convenient
[10:57] <taran> ActionParsnip: ok.trying will get back to you soon if I can
[10:57] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip: thx, will do
[10:59] <kisuke> ok for sym links: ln -s <target> <link> right? man being obtuse right this minute
[11:01] <kisuke> scratch that how do  iremove a link?
[11:01] <pcz_07> cześć polacy;D
[11:02] <Chousuke> !pl
[11:02] <taran> ActionParsnip: I could not avoind entering username and password efter I worked accoording to http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html and restarted PC
[11:03] <kisuke> NVM got it
[11:05] <kisuke> sudo appt-get remove xbmc
[11:05] <kisuke> opps sorry wrong window...
[11:06] <Senjai> kisuke, very wrong window lol
[11:06] <kisuke> Senjai: SSH FTW
[11:06] <milokliz> anyone how can i ensure that no network managers are controlling the card
[11:06] <taran> ActionParsnip: Kindly let me know if I did it the correct way http://paste.ubuntu.com/568678/
[11:07] <mgedmin> latest maverick kernel update broke my thinkpad key
[11:09] <fredison> amigos alguem sabe como colocar o sarg para executar automaticamente
[11:09] <fredison> ?
[11:09] <jpds> !es | fredison
[11:10] <vooze> Hey.. "strenge question" I'm currently using wired network.. and it works just fine.. but when i check network-manager (i'm sure 100% sure of i name, as my ubuntu to set to danish) it says never used.. I can see the 2 wifi's i've used.. but wired shows "never" any idea why  :)
[11:10] <vooze> i
[11:10] <vooze> i
[11:10] <vooze> i'm not 100% sure of the name **
[11:11] <mgedmin> vooze, perhaps you've a static configuration of your wired network via /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:11] <mgedmin> that makes network-manager stay away
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> taran: you have ftp proxy twice...
[11:11] <moustiK_> " colocar o sarg" que quieres decir con eso ? what do you need , if you translate in english and we will help you.
[11:11] <taran> ActionParsnip: oh. Im correcting it
[11:12] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help eariler, id have been very ticed if i had to go back to 10.04 and run my 300 +/- charactar install command again...
[11:12] <fredison> o sarg so executa manualmente
[11:12] <fredison> queria automatizar a execução dele
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: i have similar, not fun
[11:12] <vooze> mgedmin, perhaps.. a week ago it did not work.. until i used "sudo modprobe r8169" then it worked.. could that be why?
[11:13] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: i did it 5 times with 2 diffrent distros of *buntu the other night, it wasnt fun
[11:13] <taran> ActionParsnip: Thanks you nvery much
[11:13] <taran> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot.it worked
[11:14] <osmosis_paul> gentelman, if i have this "sed -n '/Feb 18 + 00:15:00/,$p' /var/log/syslog > syslog.mail" and i want suplant this date by "DATE=$(date '+%b %d 00:15:01')" to use finally in here "sed -n '/'${DATE}'/,$p' /var/log/syslog > syslog.mail" how i have to escape ther quotes in the final query does not works and i can not see!!!\
[11:15] <FightingNavyman> anyone know why when i try to do "cd" to install eggdrop. nothing happends?
[11:15] <FightingNavyman> channel for eggdrop help everyone seem's they are asleep :(
[11:16] <kisuke> FightingNavyman: why are you using cd? thats to change directorys
[11:18] <kisuke> FightingNavyman: ping
[11:18] <llutz> osmosis_paul: again: why not just use grep $Date   to extract your daily-log?
[11:20] <llutz> osmosis_paul: or, using logrotate, just rotate logs daily and mail the full logfile after rotation
[11:21] <FightingNavyman> kisuke,  its to make eggdrop work :P
[11:21] <FightingNavyman> https://rapidspeeds.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33
[11:21] <FightingNavyman> im doing that o.o
[11:21] <taran> I cant update with sudo apt-get updat
[11:21] <Senjai> IRC is addicting
[11:21] <taran> I cant update with sudo apt-get update
[11:21] <osmosis_paul> llutz, because almost get i must be a stupid quote or something
[11:22] <Senjai> taran what error do ou get
[11:22] <osmosis_paul> llutz, i can not waste more time in this task
[11:22] <kisuke> FightingNavyman: ignore the first cd, jsut use cd egg...
[11:22] <ymonir> hello guys - iam having problem while iam watching any Video online as youtube -the clip is cutting every few seconds but the sound going fine - means the buffering is ok but there is a problem with the Video or some plugins - any help ?
[11:22] <FightingNavyman> kk
[11:23] <llutz> osmosis_paul: thats why i ask to use simpler solutions (seems using bash-vars in sed is not that easy)
[11:23] <taran> Senjai: I get a long list like this W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-proposed/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  407  Proxy Authentication Required
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> taran: did you add the stuff in apt.conf?
[11:23] <FightingNavyman> kisuke, didnt work :(
[11:23] <FightingNavyman> bash: cd: eggdrop1.6.20.tar.gz: Not a directory
[11:23] <Shoggoth> could someone please remind me - what is the name of the program that lets you build and install a program from source and it records the results into a dpkg ?
[11:24] <kisuke> FightingNavyman: that CD is juust to move you to the right directory, it does none of the actual installation.
[11:24] <taran> ActionParsnip: no I did not
[11:24] <erUSUL> !checkinstall > Shoggoth
[11:24] <Shoggoth> ty
[11:24] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: how swamped are you?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ymonir: can you use:  http://pastie.org   and give the output of:  sudo lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo lshw -C display; echo; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf      thanks
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: not very
[11:25] <Shoggoth> erUSUL: thanks... for some stupid reason I can _never_ remember its name
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: sup?
[11:25] <erUSUL> Shoggoth: no problem :)
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> !info eggdrop
[11:26] <taran> ActionParsnip: Am I supposed to add the saem Export command lines in apt.conf?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> FightingNavyman: 1.6.19 is in the repo...
[11:26] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: ok, xbmc refuses to recognize that its got openGL avalible to it, suggestions?
[11:26] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip: I uninstalled and reinstalled power manager through APT
[11:26] <Dazzled> no cigar
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> taran: the link I ave shows the syntax
[11:26] <llutz> osmosis_paul: have you tried asking in ##sed    ?
[11:27] <Dazzled> Now I tried recovery mode with Safe Graphics, and that works so far
[11:27] <osmosis_paul> llutz, nice! thanks a lot dude
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: not sure, have you looked in the logsor tried to run it from terminal
[11:27] <Dazzled> Is there a way I can check or reset things from there?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: progress at least :)
[11:27] <taran> ActionParsnip: let me try
[11:27] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: it just comes up and tells me it needs a GFX card with openGL support.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: are you fully updated?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: can you run compiz/desktop effects?
[11:28] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip: Yes, I'm and update addict, sadly, I think that might perhaps be the problem
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: are you using beta/alpha PPAs?
[11:28] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: afaik yes, let me double check
[11:28] <Dazzled> Normally, no
[11:28] <Dazzled> I'm on 10.10
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: then i'd read /var/log/Xorg.0.log   to see what's going on
[11:29] <Graet|lappy> !checkinstall Graet|lappy
[11:30] <taran> ActionParsnip: I did the change in apt.conf n now its working thanks
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> taran: cool
[11:31]  * kisuke blows gasket
[11:31] <taran> ActionParsnip: Thanks Im inspired to help similarly though im very new
[11:31] <taran> bye
[11:31] <Graet|lappy> !checkinstall > Graet|lappy
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> taran: it's all good dude :)
[11:32] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: nvidia-current is installed, yet, "Desktop Effects could not be enabled"
[11:32] <kisuke> sod this im going back to 10.04
[11:33] <Hardin> !check-install | Hardin
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: thats why then
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig     and reboot
[11:34] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip: I see nothing unusual in Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <kisuke> ActionParsnip: not again, installing 10.04, i have no idea why canonical insists on releasing a new version just after most of the bugs have been worked out of the last one...
[11:35] <geogeek1> hi$
[11:35] <geogeek1> hi
[11:35] <kisuke> geogeek1: hi
[11:36] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip: A wild guess, could it be the NVidia driver?
[11:36] <Hardin> geogeek1: What seems to be your problem
[11:36] <geogeek1> i wanna burn my data ( pdf files )
[11:36] <Hardin> geogeek1: To a cd ?, right?
[11:36] <Dazzled> as the screen turned purple right before I get that "bad power manager" screen
[11:36] <geogeek1> using brasro and
[11:36] <geogeek1> the default burner
[11:36] <geogeek1> but when i burn i can't read the files
[11:37] <Hardin> geogeek1: braesero is the default burner
[11:37] <Hardin> geogeek1: Did you wait for the burning process to complete?
[11:37] <geogeek1> yes
[11:37] <Dazzled> brb
[11:37] <Hardin> geogeek1: You can't view the files in ubuntu or any other os
[11:37] <Hardin> ?>
[11:37] <Hardin> ?
[11:38] <geogeek1> when i try to open ppdf file i get "File type unknown (application/octet-stream) is not supported"
[11:38] <geogeek1> i hadn't yet view the cd in windows
[11:38] <Hardin> geogeek1: ppdf or pdf?
[11:38] <kisuke> geogeek1: you do have a PDF reader installed?
[11:38] <geogeek1> pdf
[11:38] <geogeek1> yeah
[11:38] <ymonir> Actionparsnip: http://pastie.org/1578323
[11:39] <Hardin> geogeek1: But, the platform you are having problems is ubuntu, right?\
[11:39] <geogeek1> i have the same prob when i have tried to burn jpeg images
[11:39] <Hardin> geogeek1: Okay, then
[11:39] <Hardin> geogeek1: 1. open a terminal
[11:39] <geogeek1> yes
[11:39] <Hardin> geogeek1:2. Put the cd  in
[11:39] <geogeek1> i had to mention
[11:40] <Dazzled1> ActionParsnip: here is the log http://pastie.org/private/upwlgwqfnsoqthqzbwygmw
[11:40] <geogeek1> that i had solved the problem of images by copying the images in the main
[11:40] <geogeek1> partition
[11:40] <geogeek1> ext3
[11:40] <frybye> Hi - I have 10.10 and using evolution as mail client - trying to fix my contacts from the couch-db ubuntu one - shows them in a mess as "not sorted" - how to get them sorted/displayed usably??
[11:40] <ashish> hey, how to link files in ubuntu using ld command?
[11:40] <Hardin> geogeek1: okay
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> ymonir: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flashplugin; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:40] <Hardin> ld | ashish
[11:40] <Hardin> !ld | ashish
[11:41] <geogeek1> ok
[11:41] <Hardin> geogeek1: Solved the pdf or jpg problem?
[11:41] <ashish> Hardin, right ... but how? I am compiling this C file using gcc command and I get undefined reference . It is using funtions from the libconfig.h header gile
[11:42] <frybye> gota go - bye
[11:42] <geogeek1> not yet
[11:42] <Hardin> ashish: Checked the man page?
[11:42] <ikonia> ashish: that's conding problems, speak to the guy who wrote it, try ##c++
[11:42] <geogeek1> :(
[11:42] <Hardin> geogeek1: Okay did you put the cd  in?
[11:42] <geogeek1> yes
[11:42] <geogeek1> :)
[11:42] <ashish> ikonia , its a c program
[11:42] <ashish> ikonia, whats the channel for C programming
[11:42] <ashish> ?
[11:42] <geogeek1> what i got to do then
[11:42] <geogeek1> ??
[11:42] <ikonia> ashish: speak to the guy who wrote it
[11:43] <Hardin> geogeek1: Okay, then cd into media and type ls
[11:43] <Hardin> geogeek1: cd /media
[11:43] <Hardin> geogeek1: then ls
[11:43] <Dazzled1> ashish: Undefined reference, are you missing a library?
[11:43] <geogeek1> Hardin: ok
[11:43] <Hardin> geogeek1: Then tell me the output
[11:43] <geogeek1> Hardin:i got to mount it using mount
[11:44] <geogeek1> ??
[11:44] <Hardin> geogeek1: Yes
[11:44] <geogeek1> ok
[11:44] <ashish> Dazzled1, I have installed the libconfig that is needed to run it. I can even see the file under /usr/include with all the other headers . But the file just gives undefined reference error
[11:44] <LikesFruit> hello guys, i am getting the error "Warning: Incorrect number of heads/cylinder 16 (FAT) != 255 (HD)" when i run testdisk. i was hoping someone could give me some background information on where this information is stored. is it in the parition table when i formated the disk. and if i change it will it make the disk unreadable
[11:44] <ymonir> Actionparsnip: i have got the  out put and at the end i have got this error   http://pastie.org/1578331
[11:45] <Dazzled1> ashish: headers -> includes, does not equal libraries to link against
[11:45] <ashish> Dazzled1, any idea how I can link it then?
[11:45] <Dazzled1> I don't know what program you're trying to compile, what error are you getting, eg what function is an undefined reference
[11:46] <kisuke> ./toast here's for a working install
[11:46] <ashish> all the functions which are part of libconfig are undefined
[11:46] <ashish> thats the error , Dazzled1
[11:46] <Dazzled1> the compiler can't find the "library" to look for said function, you have to tell it where it could be in
[11:47] <ashish> I get the logic part , but how do I implement that ?
[11:47] <Dazzled1> is there a '-l something something' (withhout the '') in your compiler string?
[11:47] <syn-ack> That sounds like a linker issue to me. but oh well
[11:47] <Hardin> geogeek1: there?
[11:48] <ashish> alright let me try
[11:48] <Dazzled1> otherwhise do you have a link to the code you're trying to compile?
[11:48] <Dazzled1> it would save time to just try and run it here
[11:49] <tham> Hello, I'm getting a "fatal error: tcl.h: No such file or directory" error while trying to install a software. How can I fix this?
[11:49] <Senjai> !msg the bot | Senjai
[11:49] <ashish> Dazzled1, gcc configmgmt.c -o c -ld libconfig.a is this the way to run it?
[11:49] <sss> Is it possible for different users to use different languages?
[11:50] <syn-ack> sss, yes.
[11:50] <kisuke> tham: you are missing tcl.h which sould have came with your source
[11:50] <sss> syn-ack, how?
[11:51] <Dazzled1> ashish: seems okay-ish, I'm no compiler guru though
[11:51] <ashish> Dazzled1, lol, It isnt working still
[11:51] <syn-ack> sss don't recall right off hand. lemme look it up
[11:51] <tham> kisuke, No, I think it should be a file that should be in the system. I tried installing tcl/tk, but didn't solve the issue
[11:51] <geogeek1> Hardin: yes
[11:52] <geogeek1> Hardin: thanks too much :)
[11:52] <Dazzled1> try to build a sample program, which could be made public
[11:52] <Hardin> geogeek1: what, fixed?
[11:52] <geogeek1> Hardin:  for your help
[11:52] <geogeek1> Hardin: yes
[11:52] <geogeek1> :)
[11:52] <Hardin> geogeek1: How?
[11:52] <syn-ack> sss, you have to change the locale is all but I don't remember exactly how to do it
[11:52] <Dazzled1> But I have to go for a reboot, I'm fixing some stuff here
[11:52] <kisuke> tham: *.h means its a header file, it should come with the source, you might try and google that file and add it to the folder that way.
[11:52] <Hardin> geogeek1: You opened the pdf file using evince?
[11:53] <sss> syn-ack, please wait a sec, I will be right back
[11:53] <tham> kisuke, ah okay, I'll try doing that, thanks
[11:53] <geogeek1> Hardin:  yes it worked
[11:53] <syn-ack> sss, http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v7r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/ae19494_.htm
[11:53] <geogeek1> i used evince
[11:53] <geogeek1> :)
[11:53] <syn-ack> ack
[11:53] <Hardin> geogeek1: Ah, cool !!
[11:53] <geogeek1> Hardin:  thanks too much
[11:53] <geogeek1> Hardin:  bye
[11:53] <Hardin> geogeek1: Welcome
[11:54] <Hardin> geogeek1: bye, have a good day, etc
[11:54] <lukasz_> hi
[11:55] <ymonir>  Actionparsnip: i have got the  out put and at the end i have got this error   http://pastie.org/1578331
[11:55] <sss> syn-ack, I am back
[11:55] <syn-ack> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v7r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/ae19494_.htm
[11:55] <lukasz_> PL?
[11:55] <syn-ack> sss, I know it's related to websphere, but it really does apply to Linux in a whole
[11:55] <Jelou> Hello, do you know if is it possible to run an iso file with grub1?
[11:55] <syn-ack> Jelou, No, it's not
[11:56] <syn-ack> Jelou, That functionality was added to GRUB2
[11:56] <Jelou> ok, thanks syn-ack
[11:57] <kisuke> syn-ack: grub legacy doesnt support loopback isos?
[11:57] <syn-ack> kisuke, nope
[11:58] <LikesFruit> are the CHS values for my harddrive stored in the MBR?
[11:58] <kisuke> syn-ack: well that gets the SG2CD promoted in my tool kit
[11:59] <syn-ack> kisuke, then that was either added by the dev or I apparently missed something after having used GRUB for most of a decade
[11:59] <kisuke> syn-ack: super grub 2 CD, not grub 1
[11:59] <Gernoz> good morning. i booted from liveCD and tried to write on my fast partition. when i try to chmod folders on that partition it says it does, but actually permissions stay the same. whats wrong there?
[12:00] <syn-ack> kisuke, Ok well, thats GRUB2 not GRUB
[12:00] <Gernoz> s/fast/FAT
[12:00] <mgedmin> Gernoz, FAT has little support for permissions
[12:00] <kisuke> syn-ack: there was a 2 in there
[12:00] <mgedmin> basically it only has a read-only bit
[12:00] <Gernoz> mgedmin: how to write there then?
[12:01] <syn-ack> but you asked if legacy supported it, SuperGRUB2 isn't GRUB Legacy.
[12:01] <arand> Gernoz: You tend to only be able to set partition-wide permissions, and that at mount time, for ntfs and fat, if I recall correctly
[12:01] <syn-ack> oh nm
[12:01] <syn-ack> I'm tracking now
[12:01] <syn-ack> yeah... sorry about that
[12:01] <Ichi_scrotum> which irc channel has the current ubuntu ppc group?
[12:02] <kisuke> syn-ack: i said that the SG2CD got uped in importance, as opposed to the origonal SGCD
[12:02] <Gernoz> i mounted rw, but it doesnt let me write /dev/sda5 on /tmp/fat type vfat (rw)
[12:02] <syn-ack> Yeah, I completely misunderstood
[12:02] <syn-ack> kisuke, sorry about that
[12:02] <mgedmin> Gernoz, are you root?
[12:02] <kisuke> syn-ack: np, misunderstandings happen.
[12:03] <Gernoz> not in the gui, i think
[12:03] <mgedmin> Gernoz, there are mount options for setting the uid/gid for all files and folders that will then allow you to write as non-root
[12:03] <mgedmin> try something like mount /tmp/fat -o remount,uid=1000
[12:03] <Gernoz> mgdemin: ok, thanks, ill try that
[12:03]  * mgedmin checks 'man mount' for the exact spelling of that uid option
[12:04] <mgedmin> yep, it's uid
[12:04] <mgedmin> alternatively umask=0 will make all files writable by everyone
[12:04] <greenm0nk> how can i find if a serial port is under use(blocked) on linux and free it?
[12:04] <faenor> greenm0nk: GNU/Linux, not linux
[12:04] <mgedmin> if you *mount* from the GUI, Ubuntu will set everything up for you automatically
[12:05] <mgedmin> faenor, that's not very helpful, is it?
[12:05] <greenm0nk> mgedmin: ah. sorry. i forgot to mention that it's a ruby program. so i'll have to run a system command
[12:05] <mgedmin> greenm0nk, fuser or lsof can find which process is holding /dev/ttyWHATEVER open
[12:05] <mgedmin> killing that process will free the port
[12:06] <greenm0nk> mgedmin: "fuser /dev/ttyUSB0" is correct?
[12:07] <mgedmin> greenm0nk, yes -- or fuser -v /dev/ttyUSB0 for more verbosity
[12:07] <syn-ack> faenor, Let's not get into that tired argument. Really that's nothing more than troll bait or a flame bait, which are both counterproductive to the channel.
[12:07] <greenm0nk> mgedmin: it just returns the prompt.
[12:07] <kisuke> syn-ack: he's been doing that for the last 2 hours or so...
[12:08] <syn-ack> kisuke, Seriously? ugh.
[12:08] <greenm0nk> isnt faenor a bot?
[12:08] <aaronbrett> Where can I find the config file for the emoticons (I use empathy) if I want to add some extra emoticons?
[12:08] <kisuke> syn-ack: yep
[12:08] <kisuke> greenm0nk: im begining to think that
[12:08] <kisuke> linux
[12:08] <faenor> kisuke: GNU/Linux, not linux
[12:08] <syn-ack> sure is
[12:08] <kisuke> yep, its a bot
[12:08] <Noiano> hi
[12:09] <Gernoz> mgedmin: doesnt work either
[12:09] <greenm0nk> kisuke: coz the reply was so fast when i typed linux
[12:09] <faenor> greenm0nk: GNU/Linux, not linux
[12:09] <llutz> time to kick it
[12:09] <greenm0nk> haha ya :)
[12:09] <Ichi_scrotum> Linux?GNU
[12:09] <Ichi_scrotum> wow
[12:09] <Dazzled1> ActionParsnip: I switched my NVidia driver, and now it doesn't act up anymore :)
[12:09] <Noiano> flashplayer 10.2 is supposed to be gpu accelerated...how do I tell?
[12:09] <Dazzled1> ashish: Did you find a solution yet?
[12:09] <kisuke> i still say gnu/linux is mostly a pipe dream, but thats a whole nother arguement
[12:09] <ashish> Dazzled1, nop
[12:10] <syn-ack> kisuke, RMS probably stuck it in here as a "lesson"
[12:10] <ashish> Dazzled1, still searching
[12:10] <Dazzled1> ashish: Do you have a sample program I could try to run here?
[12:10] <kisuke> syn-ack: RMS?
[12:10] <ashish> sure
[12:10] <mgedmin> Gernoz, please pastebin the output of 'mount /tmp/fat' and the output of 'id'
[12:10] <ashish> Dazzled1, http://www.hyperrealm.com/libconfig/
[12:11] <Gernoz> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[12:11] <ashish> there is a package here,
[12:11] <ashish> download and chekc out the examples, under examples/c
[12:11] <Gernoz> /dev/sda5 on /tmp/fat type vfat (rw,umask=0)
[12:11] <ashish> Dazzled1, if u can run the examples , then I guess the problem is solved
[12:11] <ashish> Dazzled1, damn, if they even compile then great
[12:12] <Dazzled1> ashish: What version did you use?
[12:12] <ashish> the newer one
[12:12] <mgedmin> Gernoz, and you can't write to it?
[12:12] <Dazzled1> k
[12:12] <mgedmin> Gernoz, can you pastebin the output of 'touch /tmp/fat/test.txt'?
[12:14] <Gernoz> mgedmin: cannot touch, Permission denied
[12:14] <Gernoz> there's something wrong, i think i'l reboot
[12:14] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks, after downloading the most recent set of package updates my computer decided to go nuts: upon bootup, all I can see is the upper bar, and my desktop picture keeps going white and coming back every second. Anyone heard of this?
[12:14] <mgedmin> I doubt that'll help
[12:14] <mgedmin> Gernoz, last question
[12:15] <mgedmin> what does 'grep /tmp/fat /proc/mounts' say?
[12:15] <syn-ack> Yerushalmi, which version of Ubuntu?
[12:16] <Gernoz> /dev/sda5 /tmp/fat vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[12:16] <Yerushalmi> 10.10, netbook edition
[12:16] <mgedmin> ah!
[12:16] <syn-ack> hrm
[12:16] <mgedmin> my manual page is outdated
[12:16] <syn-ack> Yerushalmi, which video driver are you running?
[12:16] <sacarlson>  Yerushalmi: maybe try reboot and go back to the last kernel if it was updated,  hold shift on boot and go back one version
[12:16] <mgedmin> Gernoz, try mount /tmp/fat -o remount,fmask=011,dmask=0
[12:16] <mgedmin> that should make it world-writable
[12:17] <Dazzled1> ashish: I'm reading the PDF atm
[12:17] <mgedmin> instead of a single umask for files and directories, you can specify separate umasks for them
[12:17] <Dazzled1> it states: To link with the library, specify `-lconfig++' as an argument to the linker
[12:17] <Yerushalmi> sacarlson: There was no kernel update, and I tried several kernel versions, all had the same problems. Sodo other users.
[12:17] <Yerushalmi> syn-ack: How do I find out?
[12:17] <ashish> Dazzled1, I hear you man, but how do u do that , pls gimme the command format
[12:18] <Yerushalmi> I should make it clear that the upper bar does not blink in and out; just the desktop image.
[12:18] <zetheroo> does anyone know of a user-friendly alternative to MS Remote Desktop ActiveX Control ?
[12:18] <Gernoz> mgedmin: works now. what was the problem?
[12:18] <Dazzled1> well, I'm more of a IDE person, so I'll try to flush out what I need exactly
[12:18] <Senjai> !ot | zetheroo
[12:19] <Yerushalmi> The little bar that appears with network or battery status also remains constant while everything around it goes white.
[12:19] <ashish> Dazzled1, btw, u will also need to install it . using ./configutr
[12:19] <mgedmin> Gernoz, since vfat itself doesn't store ownership/permission information, mount options are used for those -- and by default make vfat systems writable only by root
[12:19] <kisuke> Senjai: thats not nessacrly off topic.
[12:19] <Dazzled1> I saw some autmake files btw in the examples dir
[12:19] <Dazzled1> automake*
[12:19] <zetheroo> Senjai: I'll take that as meaning you haven't got an f-ing clue :P
[12:19] <Dazzled1> but no complementary config files
[12:19] <Gernoz> so fmask=011 will always help me?
[12:20] <syn-ack> Yerushalmi, I would try what the other guy suggested first.
[12:20] <Dazzled1> woops
[12:20] <Yerushalmi> syn-ack: Already did.
[12:20] <Dazzled1> there are in the dir above
[12:20] <mgedmin> Gernoz, if I were you, I'd double-click on the disk icon in Nautilus to mount it
[12:20] <mgedmin> instead of playing with mount options in a terminal
[12:20] <zetheroo> I need to access the office from home ... usually I would do it through IE and entering in the https URL etc ... but without IE in Linux I am stuck :(
[12:21] <Scall> Hello, how can I change fonts size of KDE applications in GNOME? I use Ubuntu 10.10. Thanks.
[12:21] <Yerushalmi> I can still load up terminal with CtrlAltT, no problem, I just don't have Gnome.
[12:21] <DaveAG> zetheroo: Use the rdesktop command
[12:21] <syn-ack> zetheroo, IE7 can run in WiNE
[12:21] <LjL> Scall: install kcontrol and run it, i guess
[12:21] <Gernoz> mgedmin: this is xubuntu liveCD, no nautilus here :-)
[12:21] <zetheroo> syn-ack: I have been trying to get it working for hours now ... no go ...
[12:21] <zetheroo> syn-ack: how did you manage to get it to work?
[12:21] <DaveAG> zetheroo: You'll need to find out (possibly by viewing source) what the actual RDP server is called
[12:22] <Scall> Ljl: what is "kcontrol", where I find it?
[12:22] <Gernoz> anyway, it works now. thank you very much
[12:22] <ashish> Dazzled1, wait will give u a example file
[12:22] <LjL> Scall: it's the KDE control panel. "sudo apt-get install kcontrol" will get it installed
[12:22] <syn-ack> Yerushalmi, sounds like something br0ke bad... I would have look at myself for a while to figure whats going on. what does your xorg log say
[12:22] <zetheroo> DaveAG: RDP server?
[12:22] <LjL> Scall: wait, no it won't
[12:22] <syn-ack> zetheroo, honestly? Luck.
[12:22] <DaveAG> zetheroo: The machine running Windows terminal services
[12:22] <Dazzled1> ashish: Did you do the ./configure and make steps?
[12:22] <zetheroo> DaveAG: I knwo what the name of the server is and the domain etc ...
[12:22] <Dazzled1> outlined in README?
[12:22] <ashish> Dazzled1, http://www.hyperrealm.com/libconfig/test.cfg.txt   make changes to the filename
[12:22] <DaveAG> zetheroo: Sorry, must dash, meeting starting
[12:22] <syn-ack> rdesktop should work though, too though
[12:22] <zetheroo> DaveAG: ok ;)
[12:23] <ashish> Dazzled1, I just did ./configure , thats all
[12:23] <LjL> !info systemsettings | Scall this one should be the one, for KDE 4
[12:23] <zetheroo> syn-ack: is that through the terminal?
[12:23] <ashish> Dazzled1, and reconfirmed in the synaptic package manager
[12:23] <Dazzled1> hang on
[12:23] <Gernoz> now i can download my kernel, unpacking current binary userland on / without doing so for the kernel first was no good idea
[12:23] <syn-ack> zetheroo, no
[12:23] <Dazzled1> probably this is why it won't work
[12:23] <Helbom> has anyone here experienced problems with ubuntu and eclipse? because some of the files i bring down from our svn are malformed
[12:23] <zetheroo> syn-ack: I am installing Remotedesktop Client atm
[12:24] <ashish> Dazzled1, so what do i do?
[12:24] <Dazzled1> could you go to the main dir of libconfig
[12:24] <Dazzled1> (where you unpacked it)
[12:24] <Helbom> but when i try to open it in gedit i have to select UTF-8 or ISO-8859-15
[12:24] <syn-ack> zetheroo, good deal
[12:24]  * kisuke executes 300-odd charactar command
[12:24] <ashish> ok
[12:24] <Dazzled1> (through the terminal)
[12:24] <Helbom> utf-8 fails... so i select iso and click retry
[12:24] <ashish> one sec
[12:24] <Gernoz> mgedmin: thanks a lot, have a nice weekend
[12:24]  * mgedmin waves in a friendly fashion
[12:24] <zetheroo> syn-ack: ok that's only got one field ... "Computer" ... does the URL really go in there?
[12:24] <Helbom> and gedit loads the file and it shows all chars as they should be... incl ÆØÅ æøå
[12:24] <ashish> done
[12:25] <syn-ack> yep
[12:25] <Helbom> anyone here experienced anything simular?
[12:25] <ashish> Dazzled1, what next?
[12:25] <sacarlson> Yerushalmi: I didn't see you tell us about your video hardware can you show us  sudo lshw | pastebinit ?
[12:25] <Helbom> this also only occures on the box running Ubuntu.. rest machines run windows and there eerything works perfectly
[12:25] <zetheroo> syn-ack: ok, nope I guess not ... heh
[12:26] <Dazzled1> hmm, now I don't know if you changed some of the files, so this still could fail
[12:26] <Dazzled1> type "make" and hit <ENTER>
[12:26] <ashish> everything is the way it was
[12:26] <Dazzled1> without the ""
[12:27] <Helbom> hmmm... nothing?
[12:27] <ashish> Dazzled1, did it
[12:27] <ashish> u want to see the o/p?
[12:27] <Dazzled1> should be okay
[12:28] <Dazzled1> but you didn't do this before, right?
[12:28] <ashish> some errors are there
[12:28] <Dazzled1> what errors?
[12:28] <ashish> so i did it again
[12:28] <ashish> it was looking in the redhat directory of my system
[12:28] <Dazzled1> Oh, but I'm on ubuntu
[12:28] <ashish> same here
[12:29] <ashish> I went into debian folder now
[12:29] <ashish> have a look at the debian folder now
[12:29] <Dazzled1> my output states that it built the examples succesfully after make
[12:30] <Dazzled1> I'm looking at the debian folder
[12:30] <Dazzled1> what should I look for ?
[12:30] <LinkRage> what's default user/pass in postgresql ?
[12:30] <ashish> under which folder did u enter make?
[12:30] <Dazzled1> ashish:
[12:30] <Dazzled1> sorry!
[12:31] <Dazzled1> we forgot something
[12:31] <Dazzled1> go back to the main di
[12:31] <ashish> whats that?
[12:31] <ashish> ok
[12:31] <Dazzled1> where you did make
[12:31] <ashish> under libconfig-1.4.6
[12:31] <Dazzled1> after make was run, you'd need to 'sudo make install'
[12:32] <rumpe1> or even better "sudo checkinstall" instead of make install...
[12:32] <ashish> error
[12:32] <syn-ack> assuming he's got checkinstall installed.
[12:32] <ashish> install recursive
[12:32] <jrib> compiling libconfig because...?
[12:32] <ashish> I guess, I will reinstall the whole package
[12:32] <Dazzled1> ashish: perhaps that's the best option
[12:32] <ashish> how do I remove it , like completely?
[12:32] <Dazzled1> ashish: there's an INSTALL.txt in the main dir
[12:33] <Dazzled1> which details installation and removal quite nice
[12:33] <Dazzled1> 5. You can remove the program binaries and object files from the
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      source code directory by typing `make clean'.  To also remove the
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      files that `configure' created (so you can compile the package for
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      a different kind of computer), type `make distclean'.  There is
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      also a `make maintainer-clean' target, but that is intended mainly
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      for the package's developers.  If you use it, you may have to get
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      all sorts of other programs in order to regenerate files that came
[12:33] <FloodBot3> Dazzled1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <Dazzled1>      with the distribution.
[12:34] <the_drow> hello
[12:34] <Dazzled1> sorry :$
[12:34] <the_drow> Why doesn't the line6 drivers work with Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-29-generic?
[12:34] <the_drow> Is the developer idling here by any chance?
[12:36] <ashish> Dazzled1, Thanks
[12:36] <ashish> will get started with reinstallation
[12:37] <jrib> Dazzled1: why are you compiling libconfig when it is in the repositories?
[12:39] <Dazzled1> jrib: because ashish was using the version from the website
[12:39] <Yerushalmi> syn-ack: Sorry, I had to go deal with something. How do I get to my xorg log?
[12:40] <ashish> Dazzled1, so if I use another version , I would be ok?
[12:40] <ashish> have a look at the synaptic manager
[12:40] <ashish> search for libconfig
[12:40] <Yerushalmi> sacarlson: I entered sudo lshw | pastebinit, now what do I do?
[12:42] <Dazzled1> ashish: If you use the version from synaptic, you wouldn't need to build it yourself
[12:43] <Dazzled1> and it probably *should* work out of the box
[12:43] <ashish> can u give it a shot?
[12:43] <ashish> for the same example file?
[12:43] <Yerushalmi> sacarlson: Ah, I see. http://pastebin.com/0CsWqAkY
[12:43] <ashish> I have tried that too
[12:43] <Yerushalmi> sacarlson: Sorry, taking care of a baby at the same time as the computer :)
[12:45] <Shoggoth> Yerushalmi: yeah... that's fun
[12:45] <Shoggoth> how old?
[12:46] <Yerushalmi> 5 months
[12:48] <Shoggoth> ok... mines 4
[12:48] <Shoggoth> :)
[12:49] <Yerushalmi> Okay, I found my problem
[12:49] <Yerushalmi> The same one being complained about in the comments here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-unity-release-ready-for-testing-in-ubuntu-10-1010-04.html
[12:50] <bazhang> Yerushalmi, thats a PPA
[12:51] <Dazzled1> ashish: (I use NetBeans for my C++ development)
[12:51] <Yerushalmi> what's that?
[12:51] <bazhang> Yerushalmi, ie completely at your own risk PPA
[12:51] <winged_warrior> logout
[12:51] <Yerushalmi> Except they are: A) talking about a beta, which seems to imply that the bug made it into the final release, and B) don't offer a fix
[12:51] <bazhang> !ppa > Yerushalmi
[12:51] <Dazzled1> I added the library /usr/local/lib/libconfig++.a to my compiler string
[12:51] <Dazzled1> and now it builds
[12:51] <winged_warrior> l
[12:51] <winged_warrior> jsd
[12:51] <winged_warrior> irv.freenode
[12:51] <ashish> alright
[12:52] <winged_warrior> irc.freenode
[12:52] <ashish> do we have that option in eclipse too?
[12:52] <bazhang> winged_warrior, you are here already
[12:52] <concon> I think he's trying to get out
[12:53] <gruber> join/ #ubuntu-br-am
[12:53] <Gwar_Trolle> gruber: wrong way on the join :P
[12:53] <gruber> ops
[12:54] <buggix> tes
[12:54] <buggix> hallo
[12:54] <BIGBAMBU> hi guys
[12:54] <buggix> test,,,
[12:55] <RoSSiFuMi1988> !list
[12:55] <Yerushalmi> bazhang: I don't know anything about that - I installed Ubuntu Network Edition out of the box and simply upgraded it like normal. I shouldn't have anything third-party unless UNE itself is considered as such.
[12:55] <Dazzled1> ashish: yes, Eclipse should have that too
[12:55] <Dazzled1> right click on project
[12:56] <Dazzled1> and then Properties I think
[12:56] <elnino> hi guyz, i recovered some lost files on my virtual machine but the content is encrypted i guess how do i decrypt to get the actual content
[12:56] <Dazzled1> find out where the Linker flags are set
[12:56] <Dazzled1> I just ran the program with example.cfg, works
[12:57] <AbhijiT> hi.
[12:57] <Dazzled1> ashish: How to add libraries in Eclipse: http://whatwouldnickdo.com/wordpress/328/eclipse-cdt-and-linux-libraries/
[12:58] <ashish> Dazzled1, fantastic ... thanks
[12:58] <ashish> that should work
[12:58] <Dazzled1> if you did the configure/make/make install steps, the lib should be there
[12:59] <sacarlson> Yerushalmi: so I guess it's a theme problem?  maybe try create a new user that is setup with default settings and see if the problem persist unless you found a solution already
[12:59] <tobiasz> hi
[12:59] <tobiasz> :)
[13:00] <dubey> hello
[13:00] <tobiasz> can I be sure, that when I am gonna order a copy of Ubuntu from ShipIt, I am gonna recieve the second milestone version (10.04.2) ?
[13:00] <Yerushalmi> sacarlson: I don't have any themes, and I have a backup user I don't touch specifically to check this sort of thing. Same problem.
[13:00] <tobiasz> they just released it
[13:00] <Nisstyre> tobiasz, you can update software via the internet
[13:00] <Gwar_Trolle> OH SWEET MERCIFLE BANJO, what did they do to the FF scroll bar in beta 12 :(
[13:00] <dubey> i want to use apt-mirro on centos box to provide ubuntu update on various ubuntu versions, Is it possible ?
[13:01] <AbhijiT> Gwar_Trolle, #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[13:01] <Yerushalmi> That link seems to indicate it's a problem with the beta for the new upgrade to something called Unity. I'm fairly certain I remember that being on the list of items that got updated yesterday. How would I downgrade it?
[13:01] <ikonia> dubey: it is possible you will have to modify the script
[13:01] <tobiasz> but I am installing Ubuntu to some of my customers and I want them to have latest fixes and hardware support out of the box
[13:01] <dubey> ikonia : script ?
[13:01] <ikonia> dubey: apt-mirror is just perl
[13:01] <Nisstyre> tobiasz, that's literally impossible
[13:01] <vooze> I by mistake deleted the "sound menu" in the top navigation.. When i choose "add to panel" the sound menu is not there.. any ideas?
[13:01] <Nisstyre> thing get updated constantly
[13:01] <dubey> ikonia: which script ?
[13:01] <ikonia> apt-mirror
[13:02] <tobiasz> yes but there are milestones for a reason
[13:02] <tobiasz> it's like service pack in windoze
[13:02] <ikonia> tobiasz: it's called Windows
[13:02] <dubey> ikonia : But how can i get update of ubuntu on centos box ?
[13:02] <ikonia> dubey: you can use the same perl scripts from apt-mirror but they will need slight modification.
[13:02] <tobiasz> Ubuntu 10.04.2 just got released :) I wonder if I order ship it today am I gonna recieve that milestone :)
[13:03] <tobiasz> or they gonna send me older cd
[13:04] <dubey> ikonia: can you explain me in details ?
[13:04] <LikesFruit> what is the command to connect to an IRC server. i thought it was /connect servername port
[13:04] <VxQe> /server
[13:04] <ikonia> dubey: use the apt-mirror script, read it, mofidy it to work on the centos platform
[13:04] <LikesFruit> VxQe, i should have tryed that one, thank you
[13:05] <dubey> ok
[13:07] <ruan> i've installed ubuntu 4 times and it still wont boot
[13:08] <tobiasz> why can't I order 10.04 from shipit just that newest version 10.10
[13:08] <tobiasz> :E
[13:09] <tobiasz> why is Canonical promoting unstable editions so much? LTS is there for a reason
[13:09] <sipior> tobiasz: how about asking them, instead of us?
[13:09] <tobiasz> gonna try
[13:09] <tobiasz> can I archieve it via Launchpad (excuse me for stupid questions)
[13:10] <jrib> tobiasz: 10.10 isn't unstable.
[13:10] <tobiasz> I know it is comparing to 10.04 :P
[13:10] <VxQe> :/
[13:11] <tobiasz> 10.04 is a serious release, and 10.10 is for enthusiasts
[13:11] <jrib> tobiasz: 10.04 and 10.10 are both stable releases in the sense that the packages aren't changing
[13:11] <ikonia> tobiasz: it still isn't unstable
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:12] <zojiko> hullo?
[13:12] <ruan> how do i execute a text file?
[13:13] <jrib> ruan: what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:13] <ruan> jrib: im trying to launch dwarf fortress
[13:13] <zojiko> can anyone read this?
[13:13] <ikonia> zojiko: yes
[13:13] <ruan> zojiko: yes
[13:13] <zojiko> awesome. thanks.
[13:14] <VxQe> ruan: is it a script?
[13:14] <ruan> a script to launch the game yes\
[13:14] <VxQe> Right
[13:14] <VxQe> Is it marked execuatable?
[13:14] <ruan> uhh
[13:14] <ruan> not yet
[13:14] <VxQe> Right
[13:15] <VxQe> Well to do that you can do the following in terminal:
[13:15] <VxQe> chmod +x /path/file
[13:15] <ruan> i know
[13:15] <VxQe> Right.
[13:15] <VxQe> Just checking. :)
[13:15] <ruan> it doesnt work for me though
[13:15] <VxQe> Do you get an error?
[13:15] <ruan> im on livecd ubuntu if that helps
[13:15] <ruan> no
[13:15] <VxQe> Oh
[13:15] <BluesKaj> ruan, pastebin your script
[13:15] <tobiasz> ikonia putting that otherwords, 10.10 is a "development release", stability is LTS, but development releases are aimed to be stable, just not with that much importance as LTS
[13:16] <ruan> BluesKaj: its not my script but ok, i'll paste it
[13:16] <jrib> tobiasz: 10.10 isn't a development release...
[13:16] <tobiasz> how isn't it?
[13:16] <VxQe> So what happens when you try to run the script?
[13:16] <Guest5408> #
[13:16] <ikonia> tobiasz: no it's not a development drelease
[13:16] <ruan> it opens in gedit
[13:16] <ikonia> tobiasz: it's just not a Long Term Support release
[13:16] <jrib> tobiasz: it's a stable release.  It was released in october 2010.  11.04 is the current development release, set to be released in april
[13:16] <VxQe> What happens when you run it in terminal though?
[13:17] <ruan> i'll try that
[13:17] <jrib> tobiasz: LTS just means a release will be supported for 3 years (5 on the server) instead of the normal 18 months
[13:17] <Sheepherd> guys! vim or emacs. vote here -> http://www.doodle.com/893cf84b9vbq44h4 :D
[13:18] <VxQe> :/
[13:18] <jrib> Sheepherd: please don't do that here
[13:18] <sipior> Sheepherd: go away.
[13:18] <ruan> it crashes
[13:18] <bazhang> Sheepherd, dont spam
[13:18] <Sheepherd> its not spam... i really need to know what editor to use
[13:18] <sipior> Sheepherd: try both. decide.
[13:18] <jrib> Sheepherd: use both and choose the one you like
[13:18] <ruan> ^
[13:19] <ikonia> Sheepherd: this is not the vhannel to take that sort of poll
[13:19] <ruan> anyway
[13:19] <Sheepherd> kk
[13:19] <ruan> i did "exec df" and it crashed
[13:19] <Norrlanning> Hey people :) anyone that knows how to have a custom bootscreen on a live-cd (dist) made with remastersys? as it is now I get my custom boot after I've installed the created dist. However when I just run the live-cd without install there's only the textmode ubuntulogo that shows...
[13:19] <tobiasz> jrib not only that :) LTS releases are also aimed to be more stable and reliable, and to encourage software developers to develop for them
[13:19] <ikonia> Norrlanning: we don't support custom released
[13:19] <ikonia> tobiasz: no, it's not, stop making things up
[13:20] <ikonia> tobiasz: it is not "more stable"
[13:20] <Norrlanning> ikonia: Ok
[13:20] <tobiasz> jrdnyquist I am not, this is what Canonical says I believe (I've read that somewhere
[13:20] <ruan> anyone?
[13:20] <VxQe> ikonia is correct, sounds like tobiasz is talking about debian releases or something.
[13:20] <ikonia> tobiasz: you've read wrong, it is not more stable, it is just supported longer
[13:20] <ruan> i did "exec df" and terminal crashed
[13:20] <philinux> LTS is meant to be less bleading edge, hence more stable
[13:20] <ikonia> ruan: we heard
[13:20] <VxQe> ruan: that is now how you would generally run a script.
[13:20] <ikonia> philinux: no it's not
[13:21] <jrib> tobiasz: they're more conservative during the merge with debian, but both releases are stable and usable
[13:21] <ikonia> !lts
[13:21] <tobiasz> what philinux said
[13:21] <rleev> hi
[13:21] <VxQe> The only difference is the support years. If canonical release it as an actual release (IE not beta or RC) it's stable.
[13:21] <ruan> so what can i do to execute a script?
[13:22] <VxQe> /path/script
[13:22] <ikonia> ruan: what type of script ?
[13:22] <ruan> uhh
[13:22] <jrib> tobiasz, philinux: you guys are using "stable" to mean something other than what it really should mean
[13:22] <ruan> i'll pastebin it
[13:22] <ikonia> ruan: nom,
[13:22] <tobiasz> I always discourage people from using 10.10, and tell them to only go with LTS releases (it is not good for newcommers to change os frequently)
[13:22] <bazhang> !ot > tobiasz
[13:22] <ikonia> ruan: just tell me what type of script
[13:22] <Gwar_Trolle> 10.10 keeps breaking for me
[13:22] <ikonia> tobiasz: stop talking nosense now
[13:22] <Gwar_Trolle> so I stuck with 10.04
[13:22] <ruan> http://pastebin.com/L3HcPvCh
[13:22] <ruan> i dont know what type of script it is
[13:22] <rleev> q: I'm trying to e2fsck a file system and I am getting "Device or resource busy while trying to open" error. The fs isn't mounted and I am running e2fsck from a Ubuntu CD.
[13:22] <novitololo> Hi, I don't have any problems on listening music in my hard disc, and no problem in watching youtube videos.  However I can't listen to the sounds on youtube, or any web that reproduces video/audio.  I'm using firefox/chrome, and ain't working on any of them.  Any thoughts?
[13:22] <ikonia> ruan: what type of script is it
[13:23] <ruan> possibly sh
[13:23] <tobiasz> I promote 10.04 :P  and I'll sht up now
[13:23] <ruan> but it has no extension
[13:23] <ikonia> ruan: it's a bourne shell script, so running ./scriptname in the same directory will run it
[13:23]  * MonkeyDust uses 10.04 until nest LTS
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> x
[13:23] <ruan> ok hold on
[13:24] <ruan> bash: ./df: Permission denied
[13:24] <rleev> Anyone experienced with debugging file systems?
[13:24] <ikonia> ruan: sudo chmod 775 df
[13:24] <ikonia> ruan: then ./df
[13:24] <sipior> rleev: easier if you ask a specific question directly
[13:24] <ikonia> rleev: just state your problem
[13:24] <ruan> still permission denied
[13:25] <ikonia> ruan: show me the output of ls -la df
[13:25] <tobiasz> bazhang that was rude
[13:25] <arand> rleev: What happens when you try to mount it straight up?
[13:25] <bazhang> tobiasz, keep it on topic, and stop the nonsense
[13:25] <ruan> -rw------- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 243 2011-02-16 13:24 df
[13:25] <ikonia> ruan: sudo chmod 775 df
[13:25] <rleev> arand: it just hangs
[13:25] <ruan> still permission denied
[13:25] <manu__> hola como me conecto al chat de terra
[13:26] <ikonia> ruan: show me the output of ls -la df
[13:26] <tobiasz> any poles in here, who would want to contribute, and try translating ubuntu.com to polish? (is that offtopic?)
[13:26] <ikonia> tobiasz: yes
[13:26] <ruan> -rw------- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 243 2011-02-16 13:24 df
[13:26] <ikonia> ruan: is this on a cd ?
[13:26] <Odaym> this is a file with read write for root
[13:26] <tobiasz> ok bye then :P
[13:26] <rleev> arand: i can open it in debugfs, tune2fs, dumpe2fs etc... but e2fsck returns an error "Device or resource busy". I'm running this from a cd
[13:26] <ruan> yes
[13:26] <VxQe> ikonia he's on a livecd.
[13:26] <VxQe> Hence issues.
[13:26] <VxQe> ~_~
[13:26] <ruan> im on livecd because i cant boot ubuntu
[13:26] <ikonia> VxQe: but is that file on a CD ?
[13:26] <ruan> no
[13:27] <ikonia> ruan: where is that file
[13:27] <arand> rleev: Is the contents of the filesystem vitaly important?
[13:27] <ruan> the file is on filesystem, my 40gb hdd
[13:27] <Odaym> why can't you boot, ruan? something about a swap file?
[13:27] <ruan> it just doesnt boot
[13:27] <Odaym> doesnt say something about fstab?
[13:27] <ikonia> ruan: why are you trying do this if you can't boot your CD
[13:27] <ruan> i tried reinstalling 4 times and formatting twice
[13:27] <ruan> i can boot my cd
[13:27] <rleev> arand: no not at all, i'm doing this to figure out what went wrong so I can determine what the cause may be in case it does happen on an important system
[13:27] <ikonia> ruan: ok, thats something you need to fix, you can't really run this from a livecd
[13:28] <ruan> i just cant boot off the hard drive
[13:28] <ruan> idk why
[13:28] <ruan> windows worked
[13:28] <Odaym> have you tried doing that thing that shows the GRUB output while booting?
[13:28] <Odaym> holding down Shift key
[13:28] <ruan> i held shift and it did nothing
[13:28] <Odaym> hmm
[13:28] <arand> rleev: I was thinking there might be options for fsck to force the checking, but I'm not certain...
[13:28] <Odaym> what did you do, ruan? ;)
[13:28] <Odaym> before this happened?
[13:28] <Odaym> fstab much?
[13:28] <ruan> uhh.. i installed it?
[13:29] <Odaym> didnt tamper anywhere?
[13:29] <ruan> nope
[13:29] <ruan> just a clean install
[13:29] <Odaym> maybe windows wiped grub
[13:29] <ruan> its a clean install, no windows anymore
[13:29] <Odaym> dual boot right?
[13:29] <Odaym> oh
[13:30] <Odaym> hmm
[13:30] <Odaym> this might seem trivial, but did you change the boot order back to Hard Drive in BIOS?
[13:30] <ruan> yes
[13:30] <rleev> arand: not sure... do you know of a flag set on the file system that indicates it's mounted by the system and blocks fsck from opening it?
[13:30] <ruan> 1 hard drive 2 cdrom 3removable
[13:31] <arand> rleev: If you run "mount" it should list all mounted FS
[13:31] <Odaym> what does "df" output, ruan?
[13:31] <rleev> arand: yea it's not mounted... i thought there might be a magic flag set on the file system itself, like on some magic block, to indicate the fs should not be opened by fsck
[13:31] <arand> rleev: And it's not a typo, so you're trying to fsck /dev/sdd or something?
[13:31] <ruan> df does a filesystem check..
[13:32] <rleev> arand: nope, no typo
[13:32] <Odaym> :(
[13:32] <Odaym> i dont know, personally, sorry
[13:32] <Odaym> llutz will know, ruan
[13:32] <Odaym> llutz knows all
[13:32] <ruan> where is llutz?
[13:32] <Odaym> whois doesnt show his idle time
[13:33] <Odaym> but he is around here a lot
[13:33] <ruan> ok
[13:33] <arand> rleev: I don't know of such a flag, well I guess you could try with the -f force flag if you are certain to do it. There could be something else, but I don't know it.
[13:33] <ruan> going to reboot..
[13:34] <ruan> usb might have prevented boot
[13:34] <JokiPavac> hello.. i have 1 root, how to check the size?
[13:34] <Odaym> you had it in all the while, ruan?
[13:34] <ruan> not exactly
[13:34] <Odaym> ok
[13:34] <Odaym> try
[13:34] <ruan> but i'll reboot
[13:34] <ruan> brb
[13:34] <JokiPavac> How to install irssi on ubuntu ?
[13:34] <rleev> arand: ok, thanks... i might have to look for documents on raw disk specification of ext3
[13:35] <avis-> i have a script that uses mp3info to check audio files for bad files (too many errors) is there anyway ti delete any file under 20 seconds ?  it xould need to be a rm -Rf Music/badfile.mp3
[13:35] <arand> JokiPavac: package name is simply "irssi", use your favourite package manager
[13:35] <avis-> JokiPavac, sudo apt-get install irssi
[13:35] <jrib> avis-: mp3info can also tell you length of a file, so check if it's less than 20 seconds and delete it if so
[13:36] <rleev> Anyone know where I can find description of implementation specification for ext3?
[13:36] <avis-> ohh awesome
[13:36] <avis-> thanks jrib
[13:36] <avis-> i'll get help in #bash
[13:36] <avis-> good morning all btw
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> 2.36 pm here ;)
[13:37] <rleev> anyone know where specification for ext3/ext4 is?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> !ext4
[13:37] <BluesKaj> !ext
[13:38] <BluesKaj> dumb bot
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !info ext
[13:38] <rleev> !ext3
[13:39] <ruan> yes yes yes!!!
[13:39] <ruan> finally
[13:40] <BluesKaj> !up tp date ubottu :)
[13:40] <rleev> !ext4
[13:40] <ruan> i changed boot order of hard drives and it finally works! extremely wierd
[13:40] <ruan> i changed the order so that my main hard drive is second
[13:40] <ruan> and not first
[13:41] <BluesKaj> ruan, that's probly where you installed grub
[13:41] <bazhang> rleev, thats outside the scope of this channel, I'll get you a link in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:41] <ruan> grub installed itself there out of its own will?
[13:41] <rleev> hey, i found a good paper on ext3
[13:41] <rleev> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs.html
[13:41] <rleev> well it's about journaling actually
[13:42] <bazhang> rleev, lets take this to the chat channel please
[13:42] <Diverdude> hello, is there a daap server for ubuntu server edition which i can use to serve music to banshee clients ?
[13:42] <rleev> what's a chat channel?
[13:42] <bazhang> Diverdude, like mpd?
[13:42] <ruan> well...... you're in a chat channel right now?
[13:42] <rleev> that's what i thought...
[13:43] <bazhang> rleev, not this one;  ----> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:43] <avis-> i am wondering if this script could be easily modified to delete all songs under 20 seconds ?  i was told mp3info could do that.  apparently i have some way chopped off songs that are still passing with few errors :  http://pastebin.com/t5Qhthy8
[13:43] <rleev> what's the topic in this one?
[13:43] <ruan> its ubuntu support
[13:43] <bazhang> rleev, Ubuntu support
[13:43] <rleev> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:43] <ruan> lol
[13:43] <avis-> i'm still good right ?
[13:43] <rleev> ok i get it, my bad... i'm a geaser that's all
[13:43] <Diverdude> bazhang, what is mpd?
[13:44] <avis-> i have a masterblaster script to nuke the results on the resultant log i just need an edit for songs 20 seconds or less.  :)
[13:44] <rleev> thanks dewds
[13:44] <bazhang> Diverdude, you want to setup a streaming server, right?
[13:45] <Diverdude> bazhang, yeah i wanna play music in my mediabox from my backend server
[13:46] <bazhang> !info mt-daapd | Diverdude
[13:46] <bazhang> Diverdude, then checkout mpd which is the backend for various clients
[13:47] <ruan> ok i've got a small problem
[13:47] <Odaym> yea what happened?
[13:47] <Odaym> all good now?
[13:47] <Diverdude> bazhang, is it easy to set up
[13:47] <ruan> my drive is missing, i cant find it
[13:47] <ruan> only my ubuntu hard drive
[13:47] <bazhang> Diverdude, not too bad, there are tons of tutorials on it
[13:48] <ruan> i need my other hard drive
[13:48] <freakabcd> ok guys. i really need help
[13:48] <freakabcd> some weird shit has happened. i upgraded from 10.04 (lucid) to 10.10 (maverick)
[13:48] <ruan> i had a 40gb filesystem and its missing
[13:48] <bazhang> freakabcd, watch the cursing
[13:48] <Odaym> missing physically ruan?
[13:48] <freakabcd> but before i did this i had installed some packages from lucid-bleed ppa
[13:48] <Odaym> or cannot identify it on the system?
[13:48] <ruan> well i cant see it from Computer
[13:48] <freakabcd> bazhang, my apologies
[13:49] <ruan> its not gone physically
[13:49] <bazhang> freakabcd, so use ppa-purge to get rid of them
[13:49] <moustiK_> I did that what's the pb precisely
[13:49] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | freakabcd
[13:49] <Odaym> i want to help, but these are out of my league i'm afraid
[13:49] <Odaym> :\
[13:49] <IppatsuMan> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and the fglrx driver (I have a ATI HD 4550 card). X randomly crashes with a blue screen (oh, the irony!) wit light blue stripes. When that happens I can only reboot the system using alt+sys rq. /var/log/* doesn't seem to contain any interesting message that may help me tracking down what the problem is. Any suggestion to fix it? (I'd prefer to keep using the proprietary driver due to its better performances)
[13:49] <Lantizia> is it possible to make a link (hard, sym, whatever) that'll always use the filename of what it's linked to (if the source file is renamed)?
[13:50] <jrib> Lantizia: no, why do you want to?
[13:50] <ruan> using a script you can maintain filenames
[13:50] <g_> hi, is it possible to trigger hte notification system from command line?
[13:50] <jrib> g_: see notify-send in the libnotify-bin package
[13:50] <sipior> Lantizia: you could write a wrapper which you use to rename the link target, i suppose.
[13:50] <Lantizia> jrib, i normally use hardlinks to do music playlists so using something like described will mean if the source audio file name changes the playlist file will too
[13:50] <ruan> i'd write one but im too inexperienced with sh
[13:50] <g_> that's great thanks jrib
[13:51] <g_> jrib: cheers, that's perfect :)
[13:51] <freakabcd> ok maybe i should explain in more detail
[13:51] <freakabcd> i have already removed lucid-bleed ppa from my sources.list
[13:52] <freakabcd> and now i have some packages that are installed from lucid-bleed ppa that are "newer" than the official maverick repos
[13:52] <jrib> Lantizia: I don't understand.  You create playlists of *one* audio file by making a hard link to it?
[13:52] <roach> in terminal i am typing su and then my account's password, but i keep getting "Authentication failure"...is there something i am doing wrong or not understanding?
[13:52] <freakabcd> how do i revert pack to the versions offered by maverick ?
[13:52] <jrib> !sudo | roach
[13:52] <stianhj> roach, sudo su -
[13:52] <arand> freakabcd: Do you know exactly which packages?
[13:52] <freakabcd> arand, yes. i know exactly which packages
[13:52] <jrib> roach: read what ubottu sent you instead of doing « sudo su - » (do not do this)
[13:52] <freakabcd> arand, and i know they exist in the maverick repos as well
[13:53] <bazhang> stianhj, thats not right
[13:53] <bazhang> freakabcd, I just told you, use ppa-purge
[13:53] <arand> freakabcd: Go in synaptic and use the force package version (Ctrl+E) function. That can often do the trick
[13:53] <freakabcd> bazhang, please read fully what i type
[13:53] <jryda_> Anyone help me with a cmake compilation error:  Could NOT find BZip2 (missing: BZIP2_LIBRARIES BZIP2_INCLUDE_DIR)
[13:53] <Lantizia> jrib, no i hardlink audio files from many albums into one directory to make a playlist.... that way it's easier to copy the playlist elsewhere as it copies the music too
[13:53] <freakabcd> you are not answering the question
[13:53] <roach> ubottu, i understand what sudo does
[13:53] <sipior> freakabcd: in his defence, you're not asking it very well.
[13:54] <bazhang> freakabcd, I did read, and then answer is the same.
[13:54] <roach> what's the difference between su and sudo su-
[13:54] <freakabcd> sipior, really?> how was arand able to give what seems like the correct answer?
[13:54] <arand> freakabcd: Or if you prefer "apt-get install package=versionnumber package2+versionnumber" etc.
[13:54] <jrib> roach: su - tries to login as root.  And you can't because the root account is locked by default.  Use sudo instead
[13:54] <sipior> freakabcd: dumb luck, most likely.
[13:54] <bazhang> ppa-purge is the correct answer to your issue
[13:55] <ruan> i need my other hard drive
[13:55] <jryda_> sudo sh  -  is it bad to use?
[13:55] <jrib> jryda_: yes, bad to use
[13:55] <jryda_> by bad, I mean ill advised
[13:55] <roach> no
[13:55] <milamber> roach: su is basically switch user (you will need the passwd for the account) sudo su uses administrative privileges to change to that user
[13:55] <roach> unless you don't trust the source of the application you're trying to install
[13:55] <freakabcd> bazhang, lets see. ppa-purge requires me to have lucid-bleed repo in my sources.list right?
[13:55] <arand> bazhang: freakabcd:It is, but in my experience can be done equivalently, especially if there are only a few packages
[13:55] <roach> thank you milamber
[13:55] <freakabcd> well guess what its not there anymore! should i now add it back in before running ppa-purge?
[13:56] <milamber> ruan: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[13:56] <ruan> ok
[13:56] <arand> freakabcd: I don't know if it does...
[13:57] <ruan> http://pastebin.com/UZAEEaTw
[13:57] <freakabcd> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: lucid-bleed ppa
[13:57] <freakabcd> happy?
[13:57] <ruan> i see a 41 gb hard drive in the output, but i cant find it normally
[13:57] <ruan> where is it
[13:57] <jryda_> Could NOT find BZip2 (missing: BZIP2_LIBRARIES BZIP2_INCLUDE_DIR)  ?
[13:57] <jrib> jryda_: what are you compiling?
[13:58] <jryda_> i'm using cmake to try and compile eiskaltdc++
[13:58] <sipior> jryda_: you most likely just need to install libbz2-dev.
[13:58] <jryda_> ahh - I thought I grabbed that.
[13:58] <jrib> jryda_: eiskaltdcpp is in the repositories, use the repositories
[13:58] <jryda_> thanks sipior I'll give that a try
[13:59] <jryda_> and thanks jrib
[13:59] <ruan> tried cd dev/sdb but not found
[13:59] <milamber> ruan: is the sdb1 the drive that is "missing"
[14:00] <ruan> Disk /dev/sdb: 41.0 GB, 40982151168 bytes
[14:00] <ruan> this one is
[14:00] <milamber> !automount | ruan
[14:00] <Diverdude> isnt it possible to make either banshee or rhytmbox sort by file-location somehow? I have organized all my music neatly in folders, so why cant i just browse by file location inside banshee or rhytmbox?
[14:00] <ruan> im not on a network but i'll try whatever that is
[14:00] <K|nG> Anyone can tell me why my pppoe doesnt work with pppoe-start but with PON works fine ??
[14:01] <freakabcd> bazhang, any bright ideas other than adding back lucid-bleed ppa and trying ppa-purge?
[14:01] <ruan> does it matter if its not a network drive?
[14:01] <ruan> nvm
[14:01] <milamber> ruan: my bad, this is what i was looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:01] <ruan> ok
[14:01] <ruan> thanks
[14:02] <sipior> freakabcd: you could try dropping the attitude. that'd be a pretty bright idea.
[14:02] <craigbass1976> Is the ubuntu software center specific to certain flavors?  I'm running Lubuntu and don't have it.
[14:02] <ruan> have you got synaptic?
[14:02] <bazhang> craigbass1976, gnome iirc
[14:02] <freakabcd> sipior, sure my apologies again. its just that this is very irritating
[14:02] <Philo> anyone know one of those cool programs that lets me watch my up and down speeds realtime?
[14:02] <craigbass1976> ruan, I do, but I want to browse by category
[14:03] <ruan> ok
[14:03] <bazhang> Philo, conky
[14:03] <milamber> craigbass1976: what version of ubuntu?
[14:03] <sipior> freakabcd: i quite understand
[14:03] <Philo> prociate it
[14:03] <ruan> ^ lubuntu*
[14:03] <craigbass1976> milamber, lucid.
[14:03] <ylmfos> thank you
[14:03] <bazhang> Philo, theres a great tutorial on ubuntuforums for beginners
[14:03] <freakabcd> so in the what is the process? i add lucid-bleed and try running ppa-purge again?
[14:04] <Philo> bazhang, bummer, don't have time for a tutorial this morning...
[14:04] <jrib> freakabcd: if for some reason you don't want to use ppa-purge, read its source and do what it does yourself (its less than 200 lines in bash).  You can also mess with pinning
[14:04] <ylmfos> I am china
[14:04] <ruan> !ch | ylmfos
[14:04] <bazhang> Philo, its very easy to set up, lots of samples there to just copy paste  over
[14:04] <ruan> oops
[14:04] <ruan> wait, what is chinese
[14:04] <milamber> !info software-center lucid | craigbass1976
[14:04] <bazhang> ylmfos, #ubuntu-cn
[14:04] <freakabcd> ruan, zh
[14:04] <ylmfos> yes
[14:05] <jryda_> error now reads: Could not find gettext runtime library and tools for internationalization
[14:05] <jryda_>   purposes.
[14:05] <K|nG> Can someone send me the default of /etc/network/interfaces
[14:05] <jryda_> damnit - compiling sucks.
[14:05] <jryda_> how is one supposed to know these package names wihtout searching
[14:05] <sipior> jryda_: generally, one looks at the documentation that came with the source code you're building.
[14:06] <Philo> bazhang, thnks
[14:06] <sipior> jryda_: by looking at the libraries it requires, you can install them in advance, and not just one at a time as your build fails.
[14:06] <OttifantSir> A quick question: Do I need the pre-installed indicator applet programs when I have Avant Indicator Applet?
[14:06] <jryda_> sipior - thanks.  I just saw gettext at the very top of the readme
[14:06] <milamber> craigbass1976: interesting, it didn't include all the info i thought it did, but it is gnome specific. you can go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for it (software-center). bazhang is correct but teach a man to fish and all that . . .
[14:06] <ylmfos> who are you China?
[14:06] <jrib> jryda_: why don't you just use the repositories?
[14:07] <sipior> jrib: it's good to learn how to build source code, should the need arise.
[14:07] <jryda_> jrib:  I was uncertain how extensive the included repos are
[14:07] <bazhang> !cn | ylmfos
[14:07] <jrib> jryda_: but now you know
[14:08] <jryda_> do you use Syaptic package manager then jrib?
[14:08] <jrib> jryda_: yes
[14:08] <jryda_> It's bit nicer than stabbing in the dark with apt-get
[14:08] <jryda_> without gui
[14:08] <jrib> sipior: nothing wrong with learning how to compile, but learning to use the repositories first and foremost is more important imo
[14:09] <OttifantSir> A quick question: Do I need the pre-installed indicator applet programs when I have Avant Indicator Applet?
[14:09] <sipior> jrib: no fun in that.
[14:10] <jrib> sipior: building other people's software without modifying isn't much fun either :)
[14:15] <adub_> i need to sign an encryption key via command line iwconfig wlan0 key *********   is not working
[14:15] <adub_> been a while i have to do this command line style
[14:15] <tim_> hi, i have a problem with my workstation: it doesn't boot, but gives me segfaults of any  program during startup ...
[14:16] <tim_> when booting from a live-cd i cannot chroot to the hd either ...
[14:16] <tim_> bash segfault ...
[14:16] <tim_> any idea?
[14:18] <erUSUL> tim_: well random segfaults all over the place even fom livecd point to bad ram
[14:18] <erUSUL> tim_: imho
[14:18] <LogicallyDashing> I'm trying to make a USB bootdisk with a persistence file. I want it to be up to date with the latest packages. I tried making a regular bootdisk, booting into it, and upgrading, but this was really slow and prone to weird I/O errors. So I wonder, how can I find or make an updated iso file for ubuntu desktop 10.10?
[14:18] <erUSUL> tim_: run memtest from the livecd
[14:18] <erika> buenas mis opciones en el menu para apagar la maquina desaparecieron
[14:18] <erika> y tampoco lo puedo hacer desde gdm
[14:18] <erika> que puede estar pasando?
[14:19] <LogicallyDashing> !es | erika
[14:19] <induz> why hibernation is not working on my desktop ubuntu Lucid
[14:19] <tim_> erUSUL: actually, booting from the same hd on a different machine causes the same segfaults
[14:19] <induz> by mistake i put the desktop on hibernation and i gte a black screen
[14:19] <tim_> erUSUL: or chrooting
[14:19] <induz>  it doesnt wake up
[14:19] <silverlightning> any brassero experienced here?
[14:19] <LogicallyDashing> !ask | silverlightning
[14:19] <induz> any solution for this
[14:20] <erika> oh crap, i'm sorry, thought it was #ubuntu-es
[14:20] <silverlightning> I have trouble finding a firefox download I want to burn as image
[14:20] <induz> if i leave the desktop for more than 10 mi the screen goes blank and it doesnt wake up by pressing any keyboard
[14:20] <erUSUL> tim_: the is the disk daying, anything in the logs? anyway hardware error; don't you think?
[14:20] <erika> my power off button disappeared when creating new user, and i can't shutdown through gdm
[14:20] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, are you using firefox?
[14:20] <erika> though i can do it with sudo shutdown -h now
[14:21] <tim_> erUSUL: a 2 months old ssd ...
[14:21] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: yes, why?
[14:21] <silverlightning> what?
[14:21] <erika> i would really appreciate help, it's annoying
[14:21] <tim_> erUSUL: it doesn't give me any read error or the like
[14:21] <tim_> nothing in dmesg either
[14:21] <induz> Hibernate doesnt work on lucid
[14:21] <induz> or maybe I dont know how to wakup this desktop
[14:22] <silverlightning> the thing is, I cannot find the image I want to burn within brassero, it's not under the download file
[14:22] <silverlightning> folder I mean
[14:22] <Grav> How do i resolve this?  libmagickwand-dev : Depends: libmagickwand3 (= 7:6.6.2.6-1ubuntu1) but 7:6.6.2.6-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[14:23] <sss> What is the difference between Desktop and Netbook Ubuntu?
[14:23] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, has this ever happened to you?
[14:23] <erUSUL> tim_: well; i would say it is hardware issue. you can return the ssd as defective if it is only two months old
[14:23] <LogicallyDashing> sss: The menus are different.
[14:23] <erUSUL> sss: the gui envoirment
[14:23] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: What do you want to download?
[14:23] <silverlightning> another thing, I am missing a lot of drivers and plugins
[14:23] <tim_> erUSUL: yes ... you're prbly right ...
[14:24] <azfarminhaj> hey guys
[14:24] <sss> erUSUL, can I use any software that I use in Desktop also in Netbook?
[14:24] <erUSUL> tim_: tied fscking the partitions from the livecd?
[14:24] <silverlightning> I have downloaded linux mint, and it's in the firefox dowload windew
[14:24] <faenor> silverlightning: GNU/Linux, not linux
[14:24] <erUSUL> sss: yes
[14:24] <LogicallyDashing> sss, yes, the software support is all the same
[14:24] <tim_> yes ... clean
[14:24] <azfarminhaj> I have a question about upgrading from Lynx to Minx
[14:24] <ruan> " sudo cp profile file:///etc/firefox/profile " isn't working, am i doing it wrong?
[14:24] <azfarminhaj> uhh
[14:24] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, do I make any sense?
[14:24] <azfarminhaj> I hope not
[14:24] <erUSUL> ruan: in a terminal? file:///etc/firefox/profile is not a valid path
[14:24] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: why are you asking about linux mint in a channel about ubuntu?
[14:24] <faenor> LogicallyDashing: GNU/Linux, not linux
[14:25] <ruan> ah ok
[14:25] <azfarminhaj> it gives me the error about held packages
[14:25] <azfarminhaj> no, by update manager
[14:25] <sipior> faenor: this is not the place.
[14:25] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, and you are the first one who managed to find a longer nick then me ;- )
[14:25] <LogicallyDashing> faenor: linux is the common name, and if I bother Richard Stallman by leaving out the "GNU" I'm okay with that
[14:25] <faenor> LogicallyDashing: GNU/Linux, not linux
[14:25] <LogicallyDashing> also I think faenor is a bot
[14:25] <ruan> i'll find the right path then
[14:25] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, I have Ubuntu as only os on my computer
[14:26] <silverlightning> and plan to make it work
[14:26] <silverlightning> ?
[14:26] <freakabcd> ruan, err.. file:// is followed by the absolute path, no?
[14:26] <silverlightning> maveric
[14:26] <azfarminhaj> what do I do about this:
[14:26] <ruan> yes
[14:26] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: well, linux mint isn't supported by the ubuntu project, so you should probably ask for help somewhere that's about linux mint
[14:26] <faenor> LogicallyDashing: GNU/Linux, not linux
[14:26] <azfarminhaj> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks
[14:26] <bazhang> faenor, hi
[14:26] <jrib> azfarminhaj: upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10?
[14:26] <azfarminhaj> yes
[14:26] <bazhang> faenor, linux
[14:26] <faenor> bazhang: GNU/Linux, not linux
[14:26] <Senjai> ugh mysql is a pain to configure
[14:26] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, that doesn't make any logical sense at all, maybe emotional sense
[14:27] <jrib> azfarminhaj: if you have xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed, remove it
[14:27] <silverlightning> I am on a ubuntu laptop now
[14:27] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: you may be on an ubuntu laptop, but you are asking for help with a different operating system, and not with ubuntu.
[14:27] <ruan> "bash: cd: file://etc/: No such file or directory" what is the valid path then?
[14:27] <silverlightning> and are to burn iso in Ubuntu Maveric, barssero
[14:27] <LogicallyDashing> Specifically, you are asking for help with Linux Mint.
[14:27] <bazhang> silverlightning, try mintsupport NOT here
[14:28] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: Well, if you want help with brasero, you should ask for help with brasero, and not with the linux mint disc image you're trying to burn.
[14:28] <silverlightning> logicallydashing, I am asking for help with how to burn in UbuntuMaveric
[14:28] <freakabcd> ruan, file://  followed by /home/ruan/Desktop/hello.txt    typed into firefox will show you the contents of that text file called hello.txt on your desktop
[14:28] <azfarminhaj> but it's a display driver :/
[14:28] <jrib> !burn > silverlightning
[14:28] <bazhang> silverlightning, right click burn to disk
[14:28] <freakabcd> so. what is the path of that file? it is /home/ruan/Desktop/hello.txt
[14:28] <ruan> freakabcd: im trying to do it on terminal
[14:29] <ruan> freakabcd: path is /etc/firefox/profile
[14:29] <silverlightning> point, is I am trying to burn an isoimage in brassero,
[14:29] <bazhang> silverlightning, then do what I suggest.
[14:29] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: ok, what's your problem?
[14:29] <ruan> freakabcd: i need to copy a folder to there, but i cant use the gui because i need super user
[14:29] <jrib> ruan: why do you need to copy a folder there?
[14:29] <silverlightning> and the isoimage is stored in firefox download, and is not easy to retrieve in the brassero functions
[14:29] <ryniek> hi
[14:30] <ruan> jrib: i need to use my old windows firefox profile
[14:30] <Senjai> hi ryniek
[14:30] <freakabcd> ruan, /etc is most likely not writable by your user unless you have admin rights on the machine
[14:30] <LogicallyDashing> silverlightning: in the firefox download window, right click on the image. Select Open Containing Folder.
[14:30] <Fluttershy> silverlightning: so are you saying you lost the .iso?
[14:30] <LogicallyDashing> That will show you.
[14:30] <ruan> freakabcd: i have admin rights
[14:30] <ruan> freakabcd: but im not logged in as root
[14:30] <kermit> is there a way to be logged in to the remote desktop but still keep that desktop inaccessable at it's console?
[14:30] <jrib> ruan: your profile is in ~/.mozilla/firefox/ .  Though whether or not you can just copy it from windows, I do not know
[14:30] <freakabcd> ruan, ah you want to copy your windows firefox profile ?
[14:30] <LogicallyDashing> kermit: sure, use vnc and not ssh
[14:30] <azfarminhaj> @jrib thanks a lot :D
[14:31] <jrib> !upgrade > azfarminhaj
[14:31] <silverlightning> fluttershy, yes in a way, but it still is in the firefox download window, just not in the download folder when I look for it in brassero?
[14:31] <ruan> jrib: firefox profiles use the same format through all platforms
[14:31] <jrib> azfarminhaj: there's a bug link at the bottom of the 10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade page if you are interested
[14:31] <azfarminhaj> ok
[14:31] <jrib> ruan: ok then, use ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[14:31] <azfarminhaj> how do I see private message in irssi?
[14:31] <ruan> jrib: ok i'll try that
[14:31] <freakabcd> ruan, cd ~/.mozilla/firefox
[14:31] <jryda_>  /query
[14:31] <Fluttershy> silverlightning: it stores it in the temporary folder if you select "open" and not "save"
[14:31] <jryda_> or /msg like any client
[14:32] <kermit> LogicallyDashing: yeah i'm using vnc, but when i log in, the local console logs in too.
[14:32] <freakabcd> ruan, in there  you will see a xxxxxx.default directory
[14:32] <LogicallyDashing> kermit: the local console just opens by itself or something?
[14:32] <Fluttershy> but yes, try right-clicking it in the downloads window and select open containing folder
[14:32] <freakabcd> within this is where you want to copy the files of your profile from the windows partition/backup/etc.
[14:32] <kermit> LogicallyDashing: its just as if i entered my password locally
[14:32] <ruan> ok now im going to copy the folder to there
[14:32] <adub_> i need to sign an encryption key via command line iwconfig wlan0 key *********   is not working
[14:33] <LogicallyDashing> adub_: the commandline you're using is to change the key you're using to log into a wireless network. Signing an encryption key is something totally different.
[14:33] <ruan> uhhh
[14:33] <ruan> what do i use as "here"?
[14:33] <ruan> sudo cp Downloads/profile here
[14:33] <silverlightning> thanks it is working
[14:34] <freakabcd> ruan, could you pastebin the 'contents' of your profile dir on a pastesite?
[14:34] <freakabcd> just to make sure you are copying the right things
[14:34] <ruan> its just a folder
[14:34] <ruan> im copying a folder to another dir
[14:34] <sss> How can I make my ubuntu's partition smaller without losing files?
[14:34] <LogicallyDashing> ruan: to copy a folder you usually have to use cp -r and not just cp
[14:34] <erUSUL> adub_: iwconfig only wrks for wep. if you use wpa you have to use wpa_suplicant afaik
[14:34] <ruan> ok thanks
[14:34] <ruan> i'll try that
[14:35] <LogicallyDashing> sss, just use gparted like normal, if you have extra space left over it will work alright. Backup everything first!
[14:35] <freakabcd> yeah i know. take a screenshot or something. i want to know if you have the right stuff in there. i.e. Cache, chrome, extensions, *sqlite files, etc.
[14:35] <adub_> erUSUL thanks do i need to edit a file or something
[14:35] <adub_> or is there a specific command ican issue
[14:35] <silverlightning> fluttershy, and logicallydashing, it turned up where it should
[14:35] <sss> LogicallyDashing, Is all data in the start of the partition?
[14:35] <erUSUL> adub_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[14:36] <LogicallyDashing> sss, not exactly but gparted knows enough about your filesystem to avoid deleting anything.
[14:36] <freakabcd> ruan, i ask this because i do knot want you copying a directory containing your profile into ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxx.default/  as this will not work. firefox will simply ignore it
[14:36] <sss> LogicallyDashing, ok
[14:36] <LogicallyDashing> sss, that said, changing partitions *can* really mess up your filesystem
[14:36] <ruan> freakabcd: i know the profile format
[14:36] <Odaym> how do i enable roaming on my Server so i can SSH to it from outside my network using its public IP?
[14:37] <LogicallyDashing> Odaym: first install openssh-server, have you done that?
[14:37] <Odaym> yes
[14:37] <sss> LogicallyDashing, I'll backup. I already crashed my computer once...
[14:37] <freakabcd> good. then simply: cp -r ~/Desktop/winfirefoxprofile/* ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx.default/
[14:37] <Odaym> i can access it from here
[14:37] <Odaym> but when i go out of the house and use its public IP to ssh, it doesn't accept my password
[14:37] <Venin> I have ubuntu on a usb stick but want to get it on disk instead.. whats the best way of doing that?
[14:37] <Odaym> i did the ssh with -v Verbose, said roaming was not enabled
[14:37] <LogicallyDashing> Odaym: OK, then most likely your problem is with your router and not with your server. It's common for routers to not allow that type of connection.
[14:37] <ruan> cp: cannot create directory ` ~/.mozilla/firefox/u6q2r7r7.default': No such file or directory
[14:38] <ruan> quite complicated, i wish there was a root switch
[14:38] <LogicallyDashing> ruan: add the -P switch, to "create parents"
[14:38] <LogicallyDashing> ruan: so, cp -rP
[14:39] <ruan> same error
[14:39] <freakabcd> ruan, wait. the u6q2r7r7.default dir doesn;t exist?
[14:39] <LogicallyDashing> ruan: There is a root switch, but it wouldn't be helpful here. Also, weird.
[14:39] <fr00g> How do I make it so a specific user is unable to use a specific program located in /usr/bin?
[14:39] <jrib> ruan: you can use the gui to copy...
[14:39] <ruan> jrib: i need su to copy
[14:39] <freakabcd> ruan, if it doesn;t exist then firefox *will* ignore the profile because it doesn;t know about it!
[14:39] <jrib> ruan: no you don't.  Not to your home
[14:39] <LogicallyDashing> fr00g: You can't technically do that, but you can set it so that only an arbitrary group of users can use that program.
[14:39] <freakabcd> ruan, do this: firefox -ProfileManager
[14:39] <ruan> jrib: the profile isnt stored at home
[14:39] <freakabcd> then create a default profile and exit
[14:40] <freakabcd> then put the files within that dir
[14:40] <fr00g> Wait, by default, each user has a group made for them, right?
[14:40] <freakabcd> if not firefox will simply ignore that profile as it doesn;t know about it!
[14:40] <fr00g> For example user fr00g belongs to group fr00g
[14:40] <jrib> ruan: you can't use your windows profile as a regular user?
[14:40] <ruan> jrib: i cant copy it
[14:40] <LogicallyDashing> fr00g: Well, yes...
[14:40] <jrib> ruan: not my question.
[14:40] <ruan> jrib: well i can use it, but i cant copy it so i cant determine whether i can use it
[14:41] <jrib> ruan: you are copying into your home.  ~ means /home/username
[14:41] <freakabcd> ruan, (1) if the profiledir does *not* exist. there is no point creating it and putting your windows profile in there because FF *will* ignore it
[14:41] <balou> hi everyone,  how can i make it so when I log into my remote machines (via ssh)  the terminal is a different color. (i.e. reds for live, yellow for staging)
[14:41] <freakabcd> ruan, (2) why do you need su to copy files into your *own* home dir?
[14:41] <ruan> freakabcd: i dont think i have the right path
[14:41] <Venin> I have a ubuntu installation my usb key. How can I install that on HDD instead?
[14:41] <freakabcd> ruan, cd ~/.mozilla/firefox; ls -l
[14:41] <enav> i need to install xserver-xgl   on 10.10   any help????
[14:42] <freakabcd> do you see any xxxx.default dir ?
[14:42] <ruan> freakabcd: yes
[14:42] <ruan> just tell me where the root switch is so that i can do it from the gui
[14:42] <jrib> balou: google "bash color prompt" and set PS1 in your ~/.bashrc on the server appropriately
[14:42] <freakabcd> ruan, good. now: cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxx.default
[14:42] <fr00g> LogicallyDashing, you said I can set it so that only certain users can access a program, how?
[14:42] <jrib> ruan: I don't understand why you don't listen
[14:42] <hilarie> Why would Evolution-Alarm-Notify still be running on my system even after I have killed evolution mail client?
[14:42] <freakabcd> err i'll give the full command lest someone think i'm leading you astray
[14:43] <ruan> hold on, nevermind
[14:43] <hilarie> killed meaning un-installed
[14:43] <freakabcd> ruan, good. now: cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxx.default && rm -rf; cp -r ~/Desktop/windowsprofile/* .
[14:43] <Djoef> Hi, 1) how private is Ubuntu one 2)is there guarantee for backup 3) Can you ask a backup on demand 4) Can you create Subversion repositories in your ubuntu one account ?
[14:43] <enav> i need to set up something like this   help pleas   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3X7CdE2oc&feature=related
[14:43] <LogicallyDashing> froog, chgrp <group> <program>. You'll probably need sudo. Then make sure that other people can't access the program: chmod o-rwx <program>.
[14:43] <bazhang> Djoef, asked in #ubuntuone yet?
[14:44] <suigeneris> do you guys have an idea why I may be getting the errors at http://suigeneris.pastebin.com/xDmAedb9 ?
[14:44] <LogicallyDashing> fr00g, you'll need to add people to the group too, I do that with the graphical configuration tools
[14:44] <fr00g> Okay, thanks
[14:45] <LogicallyDashing> fr00g: note that <program> is actually a path to the program executable, not just the name of the program... unless you're already in the same directory as the program...
[14:45] <ruan> done, it seems
[14:46] <Codesleuth> I'm looking at using our Ubuntu box for hosting some sort of SNMP log/database website for our office firewall; anybody got a recommendation of what to use? Got Apache2 and PHP ready
[14:46] <juk> LogicallyDashing: is $PATH<program> actually
[14:46] <ruan> brb restarting
[14:47] <LyukO> Can Shell script do when i run daemon to shell script and use daemon's command?
[14:47] <Arkwolf> Hello, I need some help if anyone can help me with installing VNC server onto ubuntu server
[14:47] <aeon-ltd> !vnc | Arkwolf
[14:48] <erUSUL> Codesleuth: cacti ? mrtg ?
[14:48] <Arkwolf> my question isnt directly related to VNC
[14:48] <hilarie> if npviewer.bin is Firefox's Adobe Flash Player plugin. why would it be running when I haven't turned on firefox in many reboots?
[14:48] <Codesleuth> hmm, I'll take a look, thanks erUSUL
[14:48] <craigbass1976> !log
[14:48] <RoyK> hi all. how can I allow a user to run specific gui programs? I have this user that wants to run 'GDebi Package Installer'... Is it possible to use sudo or similar for that?
[14:49] <Arkwolf> my question is, how do I install KDE onto a server PC so it doesnt become a GUI and stays as a CLI
[14:49] <suigeneris> do you guys have an idea why I may be getting the errors at http://suigeneris.pastebin.com/xDmAedb9 ?
[14:49] <erUSUL> RoyK: you canmake him admin so it can use sudo with everything it wants or you can tweak sudoers so it can only run gdebi if that's what you want
[14:49] <yaeha> hi guys. I have a windows network (simple) and I want my linux laptop to join for sharing printer and files. I can see the Windows Network icon but can't connect
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> Arkwolf: X(xserver, it starts the GUIs) won#'t start if you don't start kdm (the login manager for KDE which starts X)
[14:50] <craigbass1976> What's this channel called?  I'm trying to look into the logs to see what someone said to me earlier
[14:50] <jrib> though allowing gdebi is basically allowing anything :)
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> craigbass1976: #ubuntj
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> craigbass1976: #ubuntu
[14:50] <hilarie> In the system monitor, under processor time, is it MM:SS:MS?
[14:50] <freakabcd> Arkwolf, simply install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage and disable kdm
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> craigbass1976: sorry
[14:50] <ruan> ntfs configuration tool does nothing on launch
[14:50] <Arkwolf> thats not my question aeon
[14:50] <freakabcd> or gdm is that is installed as well
[14:50] <Arkwolf> I havent installed KDE yet
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> Arkwolf: but it answered it :)
[14:51] <freakabcd> Arkwolf, that is the answer unfortunately :)
[14:51] <ruan> i need to access my NTFS drive
[14:51] <Arkwolf> because if i use sudo apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop
[14:51] <hilarie> @ruan in what system?
[14:51] <Arkwolf> it will install the entire desktop onto the pc
[14:51] <Arkwolf> i dont want that
[14:51] <craigbass1976> aeon-ltd, no problem.  I'm here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/18/%23ubuntu.txt and don't see anything when searching for my name
[14:51] <ruan> hilarie: on ubuntu 10.10
[14:51] <freakabcd> then don;t install kubuntu-desktop
[14:51] <Arkwolf> i just want to know how i install it on the pc
[14:51] <freakabcd> and install only the packages you want
[14:51] <aeon-ltd> Arkwolf: explain more, because thats what that package was designed for
[14:51] <hilarie> Click on places in the upper left hand side, between applications and system
[14:51] <Arkwolf> i want it so when I use VNC viewer, it will auto run KDE
[14:51] <Arkwolf> but i havent got KDE installed yet
[14:51] <hilarie> @ruan then poke around there
[14:51] <Arkwolf> what is the command for it
[14:52] <Arkwolf> to install it, but not run it as default
[14:52] <ruan> hilarie: i cant find my ntfs drive, its not there
[14:52] <freakabcd> Arkwolf, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[14:52] <Arkwolf> like gnome is sudo apt-get install gnome-core-files
[14:52] <freakabcd> what does gnome-core-files install?
[14:52] <yaeha> hi guys. I have a windows network (simple) and I want my linux laptop to join for sharing printer and files. I can see the Windows Network icon but can't connect
[14:52] <hilarie> @ruan have you clicked around on everything there, they don't have the same naming scheme as on windows
[14:53] <ruan> hilarie: i dont see a second drive
[14:53] <xyproto> Does Ctrl-Alt-Backspace work in X in Ubuntu by default?
[14:53] <freakabcd> xyentei, no
[14:53] <freakabcd> xyproto, no
[14:53] <xyproto> freakabcd: thank you
[14:53] <freakabcd> you need to enable it
[14:53] <freakabcd> xyproto, Xorg disables it be default upstream and ubuntu keep the default
[14:53] <hilarie> @ruan have you seen it since you installed ubuntu?
[14:54] <ruan> hilarie: i could access it on the livecd but not on the installation
[14:54] <Codesleuth> is Cacti included in Ubuntu as a package?
[14:54] <Codesleuth> looks exactly like what I need
[14:54] <hilarie> ruan: You'll have to ask someone else, but I fear you may have keeled it accidentally during install,
[14:54] <Jeruvy> !info Cacti
[14:54] <Jeruvy> wrong name..
[14:54] <ruan> hilarie: i doubt that, it existed before boot
[14:55] <Arkwolf> so no one can help me with installing kde to work with vnc
[14:55] <hilarie> Ruan: did you create a partition for it with the live cd?
[14:55] <Codesleuth> I've found a "how to" for cacti and ubuntu
[14:55] <ruan> hilarie: no, it was on a seperate drive
[14:55] <yaeha> cannot see the XP computer in the network but can see the win7 one.
[14:56] <franchoy> how do i uninstall plymouth manger? im using ubuntu 10.10
[14:56] <Jeruvy> Codesleuth http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/web/cacti
[14:56] <compdoc> Arkwolf, its simple in gnome. whats not working?
[14:56] <Codesleuth> !info rrdtool
[14:56] <franchoy> i want to uninstall it because it doesn't work
[14:58] <Arkwolf> comp im going to pm you
[14:58] <stowoda> hi there
[14:58] <ruan> how do i view the contents of my ntfs drive
[14:58] <majuk__> Hey all. Trying to run gedit on X over SSH. Complains about not being able to find the system-file-manager icon and aborts. Anyone have an idea for a workaround?
[14:58] <stowoda> how can I search for directories in llinux?
[14:59] <lighta> majuk__,  use nano
[14:59] <hilarie> What is virtual memory?
[14:59] <lighta> try find or locate stowoda
[14:59] <AbhijiT> hilarie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ruan, look in nautilus / places
[15:01] <erUSUL> stowoda: "locate foo"
[15:01] <ruan> nautilus?
[15:01] <hilarie> @AbhijiT but wouldn't that be swap space?
[15:01] <AbhijiT> hilarie, nope
[15:01] <AbhijiT> !swap
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ruan,yes
[15:01] <AbhijiT> hilarie, ^^^^
[15:01] <ruan> where is nautilus
[15:01] <yaeha_> cannot see the XP computer in the network but can see the win7 one.
[15:01] <hilarie> wth is swap space lol
[15:02] <franchoy> i don't know if its just me, or there now few people who answers question here... i mean i'm a newbie and i need all the support that i can get...but most of the time my queries are not answered here:(
[15:02] <erUSUL> !software | franchoy
[15:03] <freakabcd> AbhijiT, care to elucidate on what the difference between "swap" and "virtual mem" are?
[15:03] <souheb> how to see my hardware information??
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ruan, explore your panel and familiarize yourself with it , you'll find nautilus , it's the gnome file manager
[15:03] <freakabcd> souheb, lspci   or hwinfo  etc
[15:03] <AbhijiT> freakabcd, no
[15:03] <erUSUL> souheb: install lshw-gtk
[15:03] <freakabcd> depending on how much info you need
[15:03] <erUSUL> souheb: or sysinfo
[15:03] <freakabcd> AbhijiT, ok. from my view they are the same
[15:04] <AbhijiT> freakabcd, again no
[15:04] <ruan> BluesKaj: ok, but where is my ntfs filesystem? i cant find it
[15:04] <AbhijiT> freakabcd, hilarie http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/swapping-vs-paging-vs-virtual-memory-632924/
[15:06] <enav> I NEED negative windows without using compiz
[15:06] <Codesleuth> "To install Cacti install the cacti package from the Universe Repository" hmm, I don't really know how to do this.
[15:06] <nesri> hi
[15:06] <hilarie> Wow that really just makes it worse
[15:06] <Jeruvy> Codesleuth: check your settings in update-manager to see if the universe repo is enabled, if not enable it.
[15:07] <Codesleuth> Jeruvy: I should point out I installed Ubuntu server
[15:07] <Jeruvy> Codesleuth: ah so just cli then? ok.
[15:07] <hilarie> my swap has 27mb in it, Yet indicater applet session is using 322mb of virtual memory
[15:07] <YouKay> Is there a particular command in bash to select all the files and not folders? Wildcards *.* selects only those files which have extensions, but files without extensions are selected with *, but folders are also selected. :(
[15:07] <hilarie> Incidentally, how in the heck is that process taking up that much space...
[15:08] <erUSUL> YouKay: enable extglobs and try !(*/)
[15:08] <jrib> YouKay: no, use zsh :)  Or use find
[15:08] <YouKay> erUSUL: jrib: Ok, thanks. :)
[15:09] <Jeruvy> Codesleuth: you'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.lst to enable them
[15:09] <freakabcd> YouKay, perhaps #bash is the best place for that question. there are some very good people in there
[15:09] <Codesleuth> whoa, I just tried sudo apt-get install cacti and it worked
[15:09] <hilarie> clock applet at 322?
[15:09] <erUSUL> YouKay: it looks that that wont do it ...
[15:09] <YouKay> Ok, thanks to you too, freakbcd.
[15:09] <erUSUL> YouKay: find it is then
[15:09] <hilarie> CPU Freq 301, are these normal numbers?
[15:09] <majuk__> lighta, Yea, I have been, just wanted something a little prettier if possible.
[15:10] <hilarie> Weather 263...
[15:10] <jrib> YouKay: in zsh, I would do... *(.)
[15:10] <YouKay> jrib: Yeah, thanks. :)
[15:11] <IppatsuMan> hilarie: virtual memory isn't really a good indicator of a process' memory usage because 1) it includes memory that it shares with other processes 2) it accounts for virtual memory, that is a different beast from actually used memory
[15:12] <hilarie> http://tinypic.com/r/2wlyf78/7
[15:12] <hilarie> What is it then! I don't understand, my ubuntu install isn't even taking up as much space, and the virtual memory it's claiming
[15:12] <IppatsuMan> hilarie: the best way to get the actual memory usage of a process that I could find is this: echo 0 $(cat /proc/`pidof PROCESSNAME`/smaps  | grep Pss | awk '{print $2}' | sed 's#^#+#') | bc
[15:13] <hilarie> It's saying the chrome processes are taking up a little over 4gb
[15:13] <hilarie> Maybe I need to re-read those articals, I am so confused, brb
[15:13] <IppatsuMan> (of course you have to replace PROCESSNAME with the process you want to inspect). That command takes the memory actually allocated to the process and includes shared memory, but it divides shared memory by the number of processes that... well, share it
[15:14] <Jeruvy> hilarie: review this article:  http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/07/memory-swap-management/
[15:14] <ResQue> i just added my local user account to the disk group. is there anyway i can apply these settings to my account without loging off and back on again.
[15:14] <omor> hi how are you
[15:15] <Zoffix_> Hey. Does anyone know a program that would show me bandwidth usage by *app*? All I seem to find is the ones that show only by interface...
[15:15] <hilarie> @Jeruvy hehe Let’s say you have 1 GB of main memory (don’t we all wish!).
[15:17] <Venin> I have a ubuntu installation my usb key. How can I move that to my HDD instead?
[15:18] <missbos> assalmu'alaikum wr wb
[15:18] <AbhijiT> Venin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508
[15:18] <missbos> can help me
[15:18] <ruan> language?
[15:18] <Venin> AbhijiT: invalid thread
[15:19] <AbhijiT> Venin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[15:19] <AbhijiT> Zoffix_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[15:19] <AceRimmer> What's the source path for Ubuntu? The make points to /usr/src/linux. I got 3 directories under /usr/src. Tried all 3 but get the same error
[15:19] <AbhijiT> Zoffix_, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[15:19] <Venin> thanks
[15:19] <Zoffix_> AbhijiT, I was just on the latter link, and I didn't find anything... Are you sure it's there?
[15:20] <AbhijiT> Zoffix_, no
[15:20] <Grav> Is it possible to resolve  libmagickwand-dev : Depends: libmagickcore-dev (= 7:6.6.2.6-1ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed ?
[15:21] <ClayG> just installed the desktop version on a netbook, don't see wireless anywhere (gotta plug in) how do i install it?
[15:21] <Grav> or is ubuntu just telling me FU
[15:22] <yellabs-r2> hello all you good people
[15:22] <guerran> #join
[15:22] <jrib> Grav: well... do you have any idea why apt may be getting confused about dependencies? Have you installed things outside the repositories?  Or mixed repositories?  Or used unofficial repositories?
[15:22] <Zoffix_> Grav, I saw that message when I tried to select several gimp packages at once, but didn't show when I installed them one by one. Maybe try: sudo apt-get install libmagickcore-dev; sudo apt-get libmagickcore-dev; ?
[15:22] <yellabs-r2> i just got three servers : Hp proliant DL360 4p , what would you say, are they still any good for servers ?
[15:23] <ruan> whats the command to list hard drives?
[15:23] <ruan> and filesystem etc
[15:23] <Zoffix_> Grav, err.. the second one being the package you actually want to install
[15:23] <Zoffix_> ruan, df -h
[15:23] <varun> Hi everyone .I have been facing this weird problem in compiz and gdevilspie on lucid .First my gedit window does not go to the correct viewport coz it says that viewport 5 does not exist (it does) but this might be a devilspie issue.The second is when I open gedit and do a ctrl s then the save dialogue vanishes
[15:23] <Jeruvy> yellabs-r2: we don't provide opinions here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:23] <yellabs-r2> ok
[15:23] <varun> I have to go to another viewport and come back to view it
[15:23] <Grav> Zoffix_: I've tried it, but then iget more errors with othere dependencies, and then again and again
[15:24] <Zoffix_> Grav, *shrug* no idea.
[15:24] <ruan> it wasnt df
[15:24] <ruan> i cant remember the name though, but i remember what it did
[15:25] <ruan> it showed the size in bytes
[15:25] <Zoffix_> ruan, what did it do? my `df` lists filesystems and drives...
[15:25] <Zoffix_> ruan, run `df` without the -h argument
[15:25] <Grav> jrib: I've made many things. I'm just trying to install imagemagick whole day and it's not working. Had tor reinstall gnome to fix some errors
[15:25] <misch281> !panels
[15:25] <Zoffix_> ruan, -h means "human readable", i.e. convert bytes to GB/MB, etc
[15:25] <ruan> hmm it was different.. i need it to get the name of my unmounted 40gb ntfs drive
[15:25] <Zoffix_> hmm
[15:26] <ruan> so that i can mount it with ntfs-3g
[15:26] <jrib> Grav: well it's important that you detail what you've done in the context of the questions I asked you
[15:26] <ruan> all i remember is that it took a -l switch
[15:26] <ruan> and it showed a lot of info
[15:26] <jrib> ruan: sudo fdisk -l
[15:26] <Codesleuth> !info ufw
[15:26] <Grav> jrib: How can I check if i got ok repositories? I'm using main server
[15:27] <ruan> ty
[15:27] <jrib> Grav: my questions are asking what you have done in the past
[15:27] <Codesleuth> does "sudo ufw allow 161" open TCP, UDP or both?
[15:28] <Grav> jrib: I just installed removed some packages, how far in past? I did many things on this computer
[15:28] <ruan> need to mount /dev/sdb1 with ntfs-3g
[15:29] <jrib> Grav: at any time, have you installed things outside the repositories?  Or mixed repositories?  Or used unofficial repositories?
[15:29] <Vivekananda> anyone having similar issues like varun?
[15:29] <Grav> jrib: probalby.   I think problem here is later dependencies require liblcms-dev. But this package doesn't exists ?
[15:30] <jrib> Grav: what version of ubuntu is this?
[15:30] <Grav> jrib: 10.10 32bit
[15:30] <AbhijiT> Vivekananda, who is varun? what issue?
[15:30] <jrib> Grav: the package installs fine here.  You're answering 3 questions with a single "probably".  That's not useful
[15:30] <Vivekananda> My nick name
[15:31] <Vivekananda> isssue is this---- Hi everyone .I have been facing this weird problem in compiz and gdevilspie on lucid .First my gedit window does not go to the correct viewport coz it says that viewport 5 does not exist (it does) but this might be a devilspie issue.The second is when I open gedit and do a ctrl s then the save dialogue vanishes
[15:31] <Odaym> ah varun
[15:31] <AbhijiT> !details | Vivekananda
[15:31] <jrib> Grav: pastebin: apt-cache policy libmagickwand-dev libmagickcore-dev     though being able to answer my earlier questions in more detail would help a lot.
[15:31] <Vivekananda> I have to go to another viewport and come back to view it
[15:31] <Grav> jrib: I don't know how can i explain what I have done on my computer from the system installation
[15:31] <ruan> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/ntfs/: No such file or directory
[15:32] <jrib> ruan: you must create mount points before using them
[15:32] <ruan> what is a valid mountpoint?
[15:32] <ruan> how do i make one
[15:32] <jrib> ruan: sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs
[15:32] <Grav> jrib:  How about this error then liblcms1-dev : Depends: liblcms1 (= 1.18.dfsg-1ubuntu2) but 1.18.dfsg-1ubuntu2.10.10.1 is to be installed
[15:32] <ruan> ty
[15:32] <Vivekananda> Odaym:I think the nick varun is taken by someone but xchat always logs me in with that nick and dont know why
[15:32] <jrib> Grav: pastebin: apt-cache policy liblcms1-dev liblcms1
[15:33] <ruan> yaaaay
[15:33] <Grav> I know. I'm doing it
[15:33] <ruan> i can finally access my ntfs drive :D
[15:33] <Vivekananda> AbhijitT:posted the Issue above.that helpful?
[15:33] <YouKay> Vivekananda: For the first time I saw someone with the name of the famous Indian saint. ;)
[15:33] <Grav> jrib: https://gist.github.com/f706d0694c30cf76e652
[15:33] <YouKay> * nickname
[15:34] <jrib> Grav: and my more recent request?
[15:34] <Konsole> Yoness
[15:35] <Grav> jgrib: Added it there too now
[15:35] <Grav> jrib: Added it there too now, Sorry for wrong nick
[15:36] <jrib> Grav: right, so now you have to figure out where liblcms1 version 1.18.dfsg-1ubuntu2.10.10.1 came from (to make sure it's the only issue)
[15:37] <Grav> jrib: How do I figure it out?
[15:37] <jrib> Grav: your memory
[15:37] <Chikokishi> My wireless only connects to my internet, it wont connect to any public wireless (school, work, coffee shops, etc)
[15:37] <Chikokishi> any ideas why?
[15:38] <KB1JWQ> Chikokishi: Not without more to go on.
[15:38] <Chikokishi> it will connect for like 10 seconds, then disconnect again
[15:38] <ruan> weak signal?
[15:38] <KB1JWQ> Chikokishi: What do the logs say when it disconnects?
[15:38] <Chikokishi> no, when i go over to my windows half of the computer ill see like 10 connections and i can connect to all the unprotected ones
[15:38] <Chikokishi> on the ubuntu side ill only see like 3 and they wont stay connected
[15:38] <Vivekananda> YouKay:I do not want to keep it though.I am afraid I cannot do justice to a 1000th of it but I do like it a lot
[15:39] <jrib> Grav: maybe you downloaded a .deb from somewhere and installed it?
[15:39] <erUSUL> Chikokishi: try installing newer drivers. « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-$(lsb_release -cs)-generic »
[15:39] <missbos> what can help me please
[15:39] <erUSUL> !ask | missbos
[15:39] <am-dxing> anyone know how to install ubuntu to a computer that has no I/O (no bootup via CD/USB) except for HD?
[15:39] <Grav> jrib: no. It would be only installed by other package
[15:39] <KB1JWQ> am-dxing: PXE boot?
[15:39] <Vivekananda> AbhijitT:Did you see the issue?Could you comment on that ?
[15:39] <uRock> am-dxing, does it have a working OS?
[15:39] <Philo> is there a better media player than the default?
[15:40] <AbhijiT> Vivekananda, no comment
[15:40] <jrib> Grav: ah, I see now what you have done.  You had maverick-security or maverick-updates enabled at some point and have them disabled now.  You should re-enable them, run apt-get update, and then try your install again
[15:40] <am-dxing> uRock: no, not really, just slackware
[15:40] <Philo> is there a better media player than the default? (dunno if my way status changes whether this got sent)
[15:40] <erUSUL> Philo: vlc? smplayer?
[15:40] <missbos> i dont connect for site,but conect google only i have ubuntu 9.10remix WM please
[15:40] <ruan> how do i add an entry to fstab?
[15:40] <AbhijiT> am-dxing, take hdd to another computer & install there
[15:40] <erUSUL> ruan: with a text editor
[15:40] <erUSUL> !fstab | ruan
[15:40] <am-dxing> AbhijiT: will I encounter any grub errors when doing that?
[15:40] <ruan> yeah but its read only
[15:40] <uRock> am-dxing, if you can get it to boot, then you can use unetbootin to get ubuntu rocking it
[15:40] <Philo> erUSUL, thanks, this one keeps resetting to the beginning every time I try to move the slider
[15:40] <Grav> jrib: This could be true. I have disabled all updates. They always break my system
[15:41] <am-dxing> uRock: no, it doesn't boot from USB and has no CD drive
[15:41] <erUSUL> ruan: you need to use sudo or gksudo
[15:41] <uRock> am-dxing, you won't need either for unetbootin
[15:41] <am-dxing> uRock: just set the destination to HD?
[15:41] <ruan> boot from hard drive?
[15:41] <uRock> am-dxing,
[15:41] <AbhijiT> am-dxing, no. be sure have 'only' your 'this' hdd connectedthen u dont have grub issue
[15:42] <Chikokishi> erUSUL: Thanks, ill check it out when i get to school today =)
[15:42] <Vivekananda> Anyone who could say something or give me any pointers is very welcome
[15:42] <uRock> am-dxing, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:42] <am-dxing> brb
[15:42] <Grav> jrib: Looks like it's downloading packages now.
[15:43] <am-dxing> back
[15:43] <am-dxing> uRock: i have that installed on another computer, i'll give that a shot
[15:43] <Grav> jrib: How did you find that out?
[15:43] <uRock> kool
[15:43] <am-dxing> uRock: thanks, i'll be back if it gives me any trouble, thanks again all
[15:44] <uRock> am-k
[15:44] <bemjb> Hi all. I have a laptop (HP 8540w) with nvidia graphics, Ubuntu 10.10. The video switching button (fn-f4) just gives an error message about not being able to set the mode. I can set the mode with a script (disper/auto-disper), but I don't know the proper way to get a script mapped to the button. There is no mapping in the keyboard prefs for it, and it doesn't cause an ACPI event it looks like it is handled by gnome-settings-daemon, tho
[15:44] <bemjb> ugh.
[15:45] <jahrome_> hi room
[15:45] <multiplatinum> hey jahrome_
[15:45] <uRock> hi jar
[15:46] <jahrome_> bet now for your own Guttenberg Keyboard http://cgi.ebay.de/290535895248
[15:46] <ruan> sudo chmod -r /etc/fstab ?
[15:46] <dnivra> hello. when I run 'apt-get update', it downloads package lists for natty. I am running maverick though! what is wrong? how can I make it download the maverick lists?
[15:46] <jahrome_> :D
[15:46] <Benkinooby> Hi, this is a (sub-)networking question. If i connect 3 computers A,B,C (1 NIC each) to a switch, is it possible to enable communication A-B and A-C but prevent communication B-C at the same time only by subnetting?
[15:46] <bemjb> (I just noticed that I said "ugh.", but I swear I didn't type that. Ghost in the machine...)
[15:47] <uRock> jahrome_, is that all you came here for?
[15:47] <multiplatinum> jahrome_,  check my PM
[15:47] <ruan> it's tho-ugh.
[15:47] <jahrome_> i didn't get anything multiplatinum
[15:47] <bemjb> ruan: duh. now the typo makes sense. :-)
[15:47] <multiplatinum> jahrome_,  you did, make sure you checked everything
[15:48] <jahrome_> uRock: actually, yes, i don't have other problems with my ubottu ;)
[15:48] <uRock> !ops spam jahrome_
[15:48] <ruan> lol
[15:49] <ruan> sudo chmod -r /etc/fstab  is this the right approach to editing fstab?
[15:50] <aperson> Is there a way to emulate a key being held down?
[15:50] <erUSUL> ruan: no;
[15:50] <erUSUL> ruan: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[15:50] <ruan> erUSUL: thanks
[15:50] <Benkinooby> aperson, why'd you want to do that?
[15:50] <franchoy> how to auto detect my headphones and disable laptop speakers/ im using maverick..can't find any answers online
[15:50] <franchoy> thanks..:)
[15:51] <aperson> Benkinooby↳ short answer: minecraft
[15:51] <paulholbrook> There's a feature that prompts you with the appropriate package install command if you type a command and it isnt installed.  What package is that feature in?  (IE, I have  friend who sees that feature, but on my Ubuntu VPS, I don't see that feature.)
[15:52] <Odaym> beware from Back In Time, it's a very unintelligible backup tool
[15:52] <itaylor57> minecraft must be some addicting game
[15:52] <dnivra> how can I reload my gnome panel? currently i get an error when I try to add indicator applet. i would like to reset it so I can add the indicator applet to the panel.
[15:52] <tsimpson> paulholbrook: command-not-found
[15:52] <ruan> aperson: is it shift?
[15:52] <aperson> ruan↳ indeed
[15:52] <Benkinooby> aperson, sorry can help you. i asked because i thought the problem could be solved otherways
[15:52] <Odaym> i was backing up now, and it had failed to backup one file that i new was damaged, so it finalized and said it was completed successfully while in reality it stopped there and didnt continue
[15:52] <jrib> Grav: I googled the version you had, and saw it come up in launchpad :)
[15:52] <Benkinooby> can't
[15:52] <ruan> aperson: there is a way to hold shift without emulating the key, but i dont know if it works on ubuntu
[15:53] <paulholbrook> tsimpson: thanks!
[15:53] <aperson> ruan↳ I'm aware
[15:53] <abdel_> hi people
[15:53] <aperson> ruan↳ currently, I know of no way to achieve it on linux
[15:53] <Benkinooby> ruan: are you speaking about caps-lock?
[15:53] <ruan> press i and shift roughly at the same time
[15:53] <ruan> it is java so im not sure if that is shared
[15:54] <ruan> that glitch or whatever it is
[15:54] <Grav> jrib:  Thanks a lot. I would have never found it without your help.
[15:54] <MrMintanet2> Test
[15:54] <MrMintanet2> Ok
[15:54] <jrib> Grav: no problem
[15:54] <misha680> hi guys, if I am setting up a development environment on a late 2010/early 2011 MacBook Pro for work on the Wine project with 8 gb of RAM, would I be better off installing 32 bit Ubuntu with PAE or 64 bit?
[15:54] <misha680> My understanding is that some drivers work better on 32 bit...
[15:54] <abdel_> please this question is quite diferent but just thought I should ask:
[15:55] <MrMintanet2> I have a hard drive hooked up to a Vantec USB to IDE/SATA adapter.  The disk that is plugged into it positively contains data, but the drive does not show anything.  How can I get this drive to mount without formatting it?  I have a lot of data on it.
[15:55] <abdel_> please can anybody help me with jn0-120 latest dumps (2010 - 2011)
[15:55] <AceRimmer> looking for a how-to for compiling for a different kernel version  then what i'm currently booted on
[15:55] <sipior> misha680: start with 64-bit. if your hardware works, stick with it.
[15:55] <misha680> sipior: ok will try thx
[15:55] <ruan> MrMintanet2: is it NTFS? what type of file system is it?
[15:55] <MrMintanet2> How can I check?
[15:55] <MrMintanet2> I truly do not know
[15:55] <MrMintanet2> ruan, I would assume NTFS, but I am not 100% sure
[15:56] <aperson> xsendkeycode seems to be what I'm looking for
[15:56] <Martin_vW> Hi, I'm having troubles with my keyboard layouts - Ubuntu always screws them up when I login. I want to have two layouts: US and German-nodeadkeys. US should be default, and German-nodeadkeys should only be used as long as I press the toggle button Caps Lock. If I configure this and do a logout & login, then is a third layout is suddenly automatically added to the list: German (with dead keys). Also, although the keyboard applet indicates US as the curre
[15:57] <abdel_> anybody with jn0-120 dumps please
[15:57] <MrMintanet2> ruan, I have no idea... :S
[15:57] <abdel_> kingly help me out
[15:58] <ruan>  forgot the command :S
[15:58] <Jeruvy> MrMintanet: use the disk utility tool to find out if it mounted and what it is.    System -> administration -> Disk Utility
[15:59] <ruan> why is my desktop wallpaper rotating?
[15:59] <MrMintanet2> Jeruvy, It shows the disk, but no information.
[15:59] <MrMintanet2> It is /sdb
[15:59] <uRock> ruan, right click the desktop and choose a non rotating wall paper
[16:00] <sneakyimp> anyone around :D
[16:00] <sneakyimp> ?
[16:00] <plmx> Anyone here that knows what MOD4-Q is supposed to do? It puts my computer in standby, even when I redefine mod4-q (windows-q) to some other action. In preferences/keyboard shortcuts, MOD4-Q is not mapped at all.
[16:00] <MrMintanet2> Jeruvy, I think this disk may be NTFS
[16:00] <AbhijiT> !ask | sneakyimp
[16:00] <uRock> sneakyimp, what is plaging you?
[16:00] <Harpyas> ubunut
[16:01] <Harpyas> *ubuntu
[16:01] <sneakyimp> i can't login into ubuntuforums.org
[16:01] <Harpyas> noob
[16:01] <Harpyas> lolz jkjk
[16:01] <uRock> sneakyimp, the forums are having issues today
[16:01] <sneakyimp> ok hew
[16:01] <sneakyimp> phew
[16:01] <MrMintanet2> Jeruvy, I think this disk may be NTFS
[16:01] <uRock> sneakyimp, servers started messing up last night
[16:01] <Jeruvy> MrMintanet: It must say something, can you screenshot it and upload it?
[16:01] <aeiah> although i can log in just fine. maybe im special
[16:01] <MrMintanet2> It says the disk's serial no.
[16:01] <MrMintanet2> I am installing MountManager
[16:01] <MrMintanet2> I will update
[16:01] <sneakyimp> another issue...rather tangential but still hoping for help.  I'm trying to get Eclipse/PDT to help me debug local Apache/PHP install
[16:02] <ruan> install the ntfs config tool
[16:02] <Jeruvy> !enter | MrMintanet
[16:02] <Harpyas> can i spam?
[16:02] <ruan> or mountmanager if it works
[16:02] <Odaym> sneakyimp problem getting Eclipse you mean?
[16:02] <DaGeek247> !guidelines | Harpyas
[16:02] <MrMintanet2> Harpyas, Spam away.
[16:02] <akaustav> Hi people. Is there a way to set Ubuntu 10.10 to keep the NTFS partitions mounted with execute permissions on even after restart?
[16:02] <Harpyas> naw, i dont want 2 b banned
[16:02] <sneakyimp> I have Eclipse debugging CLI just fine, but whenever I try to debug as web page, it just launches firefox and runs the entire script, ignoring break points
[16:03] <Odaym> yes this is a problem i have with Netbeans as well
[16:03] <Odaym> breakpoints are an issue
[16:03] <MrMintanet2> People who pipe ubottu nags are QQ babies.  Don't worry.
[16:03] <Odaym> just goes over them like nothing
[16:03] <uRock> Harpyas, do you have an Ubuntu related question?
[16:03] <Benkinooby> Hi, this is a (sub-)networking question. If i connect 3 computers A,B,C (1 NIC each) to a switch, is it possible to enable communication A-B and A-C but prevent communication B-C at the same time only by subnetting?
[16:03] <Odaym> put more
[16:03] <Odaym> :\
[16:03] <FloodBot3> Odaym: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <sneakyimp> i realize this is rather specific topic for ubuntu forums, but thought there might be devs here to help
[16:03] <Odaym> with Netbeans when i put more, it sometimes works
[16:04] <Harpyas> @uRock no im just here to listen
[16:04] <Harpyas> im bored
[16:04] <uRock> k
[16:04] <ska> Whats a good solid desktop printer with ethernet for ubuntu?? recommendations?
[16:04] <Harpyas> i dont even have ubuntu
[16:04] <misha680> if I use 32-bit with PAE, am I still able to use regular 32 bit drivers?
[16:04] <sipior> misha680: yes.
[16:04] <juk> akaustav: partitions don't have permissions so far
[16:05] <misha680> sipior: great, thank you
[16:05] <lcuk> Hey, my ubuntu has a desktop picture that is linked in the gconf settings to an unmounted folder, but the picture is still visible - can anyone tell me where the setting is stored?
[16:05] <lcuk> errr cached
[16:05] <MrMintanet2> How do I format a drive that has gone queer?
[16:06] <akaustav> juk: I am not sure what that means.
[16:06] <tsimpson> !language | MrMintanet2
[16:06] <sacarlson> Harpyas: well if you smart maybe you can help some people here with questions you know about,  they will love you for it
[16:06] <juk> lcuk: somewhere in  /usr/share/backgrounds/
[16:06] <Harpyas> lolzlolzlolz
[16:06] <MrMintanet2> tsimpson, Is there something wrong with using the word "queer"?
[16:06] <juk> akaustav: me too
[16:06] <freakabcd> tsimpson, lol. queer meaning ;strange;
[16:06] <sipior> MrMintanet2: you should accept the drive as it is, and appreciate what makes it special.
[16:06] <Harpyas> what were its parents both gay
[16:06] <freakabcd> please check on dict.org if you wish
[16:06] <tsimpson> MrMintanet2: depending on the context, sure
[16:07] <lcuk> juk, that does not sound right: its user configurable and not system
[16:07] <lcuk> its a photo from my camera
[16:07] <MrMintanet2> tsimpson, Was the context of my question inappropriate or offensive?  If so, please elaborate as to how it was, and I will retract my comment.  Otherwise, I am afraid I will have to continue using the dreaded word "queer".
[16:07] <juk> lcuk: ah
[16:07] <lcuk> thanks for tip though, I am looking there
[16:07] <DaGeek247> MrInternet it should be possible with gparted.
[16:07] <Harpyas> lolzlolzlozlz
[16:07] <MrMintanet2> tsimpson, To be frank, I find your language pipe gripe a bit queer.
[16:08] <juk> lcuk: run serach under home then
[16:08] <DaGeek247> lol
[16:08] <Harpyas> lolzlolzlolzlolz
[16:08] <tsimpson> MrMintanet2: the factoid is informational, now stop trying to bait me
[16:08] <Harpyas> queer
[16:08] <MrMintanet2> !idiot | tsimpson
[16:08] <juk> !atitude | MrMintanet2:
[16:09] <MrMintanet2> Pfft
[16:09] <MrMintanet2> A bit sensitive?
[16:09] <juk> MrMintanet2: no, you shouldn't point it out
[16:09] <DaGeek247> MrInternet yes, so its wise to not be mean.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> !COC | MrMintanet2
[16:10] <Benkinooby> what is the best place to ask subnetting questions?
[16:10] <MrMintanet2> What a joke.
[16:10] <MrMintanet2> Whatever.
[16:10] <tsimpson> Benkinooby: for general network stuff, ##networking
[16:10] <Benkinooby> tsimpson, thank you
[16:11] <raido> Benkinooby: BTW, ipcalc will be your friend
[16:11] <Wulfy> radio do it the proper way and get some pen and paper! (shudders from the thought of ccna)
[16:12] <raido> Wulfy: Yikes!
[16:13] <raido> dashua: Fellow Jerseyan?
[16:14] <ajitam> Hi I can't get samba to work.  I did "smbpasswd -a <username>" added user to /etc/samba/smbusers and add sharing to smb.config
[16:14] <uRock> raido, I cheat and use IPCalc as well
[16:15] <raido> uRock: Thats not cheatin. Its sanity preservation.
[16:15] <uRock> lol
[16:15] <MrMintanet2> How do you force unmount?
[16:15] <Odaym> hmmm
[16:15] <raido> MrMintanet2: -f
[16:15] <Odaym> maybe ..
[16:15] <Odaym> yea
[16:15] <Odaym> hehe
[16:15] <FloodBot3> Odaym: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <MrMintanet2> radio, Can you be more specific?
[16:16] <sneakyimp> Can anyone tell me how to get Eclipse to work debugging PHP scripts run via Apache?  I have eclipse debugging PHP via CLI just fine but when I try to "debug as web page" then it just launches a browser that runs the entire script, ignoring all my breakpoints.
[16:16] <uRock> floodbot ftw!
[16:16] <raido> umount -f /dev
[16:16] <sneakyimp> yes, this is on Ubuntu
[16:16] <juk> MrMintanet2: kill processes which binds on it
[16:17] <uRock> FunnyLookinHat, cloak is no good when you let it log you into a room before freenode accepts the password, just saying
[16:18] <FunnyLookinHat> uRock, guess it's a good thing I don't really care about being cloaked...  ;)
[16:18] <Lantizia> are there any tools that can copy files... but can handle copying from a linux filesystem to a dos one correctly? (as in deal with symbols a dos filesystem can't handle)
[16:18] <uRock> FunnyLookinHat, 8)
[16:18] <Indeede> Hi, I'm trying to install libsfml-audio1.5 but it cant locate the package, is there a repository I need to add to my source list?
[16:18] <MrMintanet2> When I try to unmount a drive, I get the following error:  "Failed to unmount.  Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab.
[16:18] <Logan_WP> !info libsfml-audio1.5 | Indeede
[16:19] <Indeede> so i'm SOL?
[16:19] <Logan_WP> Indeede: it seems to have only existed in Lucid
[16:19] <drc> sneakyimp: there is a eclipse channel here (#eclipse)...might get more help there
[16:19] <MrMintanet2> radio, I do not have "unmount" as a valid command.
[16:19] <abdel_> hello
[16:19] <sneakyimp> drc: thx!
[16:19] <abdel_> how ya doing
[16:19] <Logan_WP> !ot | abdel_
[16:19] <uRock> there is a #apache, but there are only 9 people there
[16:19] <raido> MrMintanet2: "umount"
[16:20] <MrMintanet2> Logan_WP, Get friends.
[16:20] <Logan_WP> excuse me?
[16:20] <MrMintanet2> Rude
[16:20] <kothaguy_Ubuntu1> which is the best version which supports sd card and battery for acer aspire one 532h(A0532h)
[16:20] <sivang> hi all
[16:20] <sivang> is there an ubuntu tablet with touch support already?
[16:20] <Logan_WP> !attitude | MrMintanet2
[16:20] <tsimpson> Indeede: libsfml-audio1.6 is the one in maverick
[16:20] <uRock> MrMintanet2, you haven't made many yourself
[16:21] <MrMintanet2> uRock, That's because a vast majority of you are smug.
[16:21] <Logan_WP> sivang: the last time I checked, no, I do not think there is a mass-market Ubuntu tablet
[16:21] <juk> MrMintanet2: pastebin output of mount
[16:21] <sacarlson> Lantizia: for one what dos format are you talking about fat16? fat32?, ntfs?  what files are you playing with?
[16:22] <MrMintanet2> juk, Got it, thanks though.
[16:22] <Lantizia> sacarlson, all of them fat16/32/ntfs... every day files that include chars like : and \
[16:22] <Indeede> thanks
[16:22] <sivang> Logan_WP: I just want a proper tablet UX for my ideapad
[16:22] <sivang> Logan_WP: is there something for it?
[16:22] <sacarlson> Lantizia: do they need to be opened in dos?  or can they just be tar'ed and moved there?
[16:23] <Lantizia> sacarlson, they need to be opened in dos/windows yes
[16:23] <Indeede> what happens when 1.5 is listed as a dependency, will the install fail?
[16:24] <sacarlson> Lantizia: well there are tools to rename files like pyrename if file names are your only problem
[16:24] <marchingknight11> can someone help me get my nvidia graphics driver working on 10.10
[16:24] <tsimpson> Indeede: it will probably fail, yes
[16:25] <DaGeek247> bye
[16:25] <Lantizia> sacarlson, i don't want something to rename my original files... i want something that can copy my files and handle naming the destination file appropriately for the filesystem it's going to
[16:25] <Hotmedal> 10.04 here and strage problem: windows become unresponsive to mouse by varying degrees, alt+tab doesn't work, along with other window switching key combos
[16:26] <MrMintanet2> Does anyone experience a problem with Pandora over Adobe AIR?  I have a strange black box at the bottom of my window, and it drives me crazy!
[16:26] <marchingknight11> anyone have help with nvidia graphics driver for 10.10
[16:26] <sacarlson> Lantizia: well again you don't say what type of file or application you are playing with,  why not just tell the originator not to use those symbols
[16:26] <Hotmedal> but inside the window, everything works fine
[16:26] <juk> ask | marchingknight11
[16:26] <juk> !ask | marchingknight11
[16:27] <Lantizia> sacarlson, and again your missing the point, it doesn't matter what type of file or what application opens them... the files are named the way they are and that is that
[16:27] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, Click System, Administration, Third Party Drivers, and see if your video card shows up.
[16:27] <NielsMkn> erm what?!
[16:27] <bilig> Hello, Ubuntu  netbook 10.10 on HP mini, I need to disable touchpad while typing any one knows how to do that?
[16:27] <NielsMkn> How is this channel different from the omg!ubuntu! channel? :S
[16:28] <MrMintanet2> bilig, Disable "while typing"?  I could see it being able to be disabled fully, but not "while typing".
[16:28] <juk> bilig: isn't it supposed to be in HP handbook
[16:28] <uRock> NielsMkn, this channel is for people seeking help not memes
[16:28] <Lantizia> sacarlson, lets say the file is called...  "File: sacarlson is 'missing' \the\ point" which is perfectly valid on Linux... on windows it's not due to the :, the ', and the \... I want something that can copy that file to a dos/win filesystem and appropriately deal with the issue
[16:28] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: there is no system>administratio>third party drivers
[16:28] <tsimpson> NielsMkn: this is the official Ubuntu support channel, the omg ones are not
[16:28] <NielsMkn> lol
[16:28] <NielsMkn> ah I see
[16:28] <Hotmedal> so... no takers for weird problem?
[16:28] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, Sorry.  "Additional Drivers".  Not "Third Party"
[16:28] <MrMintanet2> It's the first thing that lists in the menu when you click "Administration"
[16:29] <NielsMkn> btw is proxy support going to be added to ubuntu one in 11?
[16:29] <firekraag> T'/quit
[16:29] <MrMintanet2> Hotmedal, Reboot your computer.
[16:29] <Hotmedal> I do that EVERY TIME it happens
[16:29] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: i get nvidia accelerated graphics driver.  when i install it and reboot, i get only a command prompt, no gnome
[16:30] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, Do you have google handy?
[16:30] <marchingknight11> yes
[16:30] <sacarlson> Lantizia: well you would need to rename it since the symbols are part of the file name.  maybe you need this tool too rename back again to it's original. so maybe just package it inside a tar file that still supports the filename structure it started from
[16:30] <humbolt> why bothering to create yet another window manager
[16:30] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, It would be best to use it.  There are about 20 different guides that explain how to do this step-by-step.
[16:30] <humbolt> this is such a stupid move
[16:30] <bilig> MrMintanet2, well i have searched on google and some people have been talking about this, they say go to System>Preferences ... but i cant find System>Preferences anywhere
[16:30] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: and ive tried them all
[16:31] <humbolt> while of course, the wayland move makes a lot of sense
[16:31] <uRock> !google | MrMintanet2
[16:31] <Lantizia> sacarlson, i don't want a tar!
[16:31] <sacarlson> Lantizia: there are many things to package a file or just a tool to rename your choice
[16:31] <humbolt> however, Linux is a really bad development environment. Things move to quickly and nerver become stable
[16:32] <Logan_WP> !ot | humbolt
[16:32] <juk> humbolt: stop
[16:32] <Lantizia> sacarlson, and such a tool isssss? oh look were back at my question :P
[16:32] <MrMintanet2> You guys are way too sensitive.
[16:32] <sacarlson> Lantizia: well not hard to write a bash file with sed to do it
[16:32] <marchingknight11> and you have yet to say a helpful word
[16:32] <Logan_WP> MrMintanet2: if you continue to criticize us, you will be kicked from this channel
[16:32] <sacarlson> Lantizia: for rename that is
[16:33] <Hotmedal> the only window that I am capable of acessing is this chat
[16:33] <bilig> does any one know how to go to system preferences in ubuntu netbook?
[16:33] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, Give me a moment, and I will look it up on google for you.
[16:33] <Hotmedal> so I have nothing else to possibly do
[16:34] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, What video card do you have installed?  Nvidia   _______  ?
[16:34] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: 310M
[16:34] <researcher1> hello friends
[16:34] <shibboleth> anyone here have any experience getting linksys ae1000 USB wireless adapter to work?
[16:34] <Logan_WP> researcher1: hello friend
[16:34] <Logan_WP> !anyone | shibboleth
[16:34] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, Are you 32 or 64 OS?
[16:34] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: 64
[16:35] <NielsMkn> erm I can't even keep up!
[16:35] <calculatelinux> hello
[16:35] <calculatelinux> I am ubuntu user :P
[16:35] <sacarlson> Lantizia: I have an idea for your script make a directory for dos that is just sym links of the dos format that your bash file will translate to the linux/mac/bsd format in another directory that keeps the files
[16:35] <researcher1> its so nice that there are so many helpful perosns
[16:35] <calculatelinux> I need information how to get information about network traffic
[16:36] <NielsMkn> This is madness!
[16:36] <Hotmedal> no, sparta...
[16:36] <NielsMkn> hah thought so :P
[16:36] <juk> !weireshark | calculatelinux
[16:36] <juk> !wireshark | calculatelinux
[16:36] <NielsMkn> so why ubuntu and not linux mint? :o
[16:37] <juk> !info wireshark
[16:37] <calculatelinux> ;D
[16:37] <Lantizia> sacarlson, I'm just going to make a wrapper for cp but the point of me asking was to see if such a tool ALREADY EXISTED! to prevent me from remaking what has likely already been made
[16:37] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10169674&postcount=2
[16:37] <NielsMkn> :(
[16:38] <DJones> craigbass1976: NielsMkn Thats not really a support question, you're probably best asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:38] <NielsMkn> oh thanks
[16:38] <Hotmedal> I have an on-topic question ...
[16:38] <sacarlson> Lantizia: that should also work,  and you could be right something might already exist that's better,  I just don't work with dos so I can not say
[16:39]  * Hotmedal doing nothing
[16:39] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: i don't understand.  first my problem is not a blank screen, its a lack of a desktop.  second, this suggests a problem with booting from a live cd, not on an installation
[16:39] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: to clarify, i get a terminal, but no gnome
[16:39] <sacarlson> Lantizia: but you could write your cp in bash with sed
[16:39] <novoid> I failed in creating a bootable USB stick using OS X, WindowsXP Pro, and Debian GNU/Linux :-(
[16:40] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, type startx
[16:40] <MrMintanet2> What happens?
[16:40] <novoid> What does this usb-creator tool do? Just dd the content to the stick?
[16:40] <marchingknight11> mrmintanet2: i get an error that says no display found or something.  i currently have the driver uninstalled so i can seek help
[16:40] <NielsMkn> ok I'm out
[16:41] <kalle_kanin> Hi, I'm running win7 and jolicloud on separate partitions on my netbook. Yesterday jolicloud did som system updates, and now It's booting directly, without the boot loader/grub giving me the option to choose between booting win7/jolicloud. Is there any easy way I can make this boot loader appear again? All i have is my netbook without optical drive, internet and an 8Gig usb drive.
[16:41] <Odaym> i can't enter #java..invite only
[16:41] <Odaym> do you know if i can write J2ME and have it work with Nokia?
[16:41] <Odaym> and what is Qt (Nokia)
[16:41] <AbhijiT> !register | Odaym
[16:41] <MrMintanet2> marchingknight11, try this command, please.  lspci | grep VGA
[16:42] <Odaym> is it there programming language?
[16:42] <Odaym> it's invite only, AbhijiT
[16:42] <lestat> Odaym: no it's not
[16:42] <AbhijiT> Odaym, you need to register your nick
[16:42] <lestat> Odaym: you just need a registered nick name
[16:42] <tsimpson> Odaym: Qt is a development toolkit based on C++
[16:42] <drc> Odaym: ##java may work
[16:42] <tsimpson> you need to be registered to join ##java
[16:43] <Odaym> i identified
[16:43] <Odaym> it worked, thank you
[16:43] <Hotmedal> MEANWHILE: a silent lurker lurks unwillingly
[16:43] <BluesKaj> so why lurk ? :)
[16:43] <novoid> Somebody can help me getting a bootable USB stick with 10.10?
[16:43] <Hotmedal> because I can not do anything else
[16:44] <Hotmedal> can't change focused window
[16:44] <bonjoyee> novoid: did you try startup disk creator in ubuntu?
[16:44] <juk> !usb | novoid
[16:44] <Hotmedal> can't even move or resize the current window
[16:44] <Logan_WP> !repeat | Hotmedal
[16:44] <novoid> bonjoyee: well, that's the fun thing: I do not have Ubuntu yet. So I tried the described method in OS X, WinXP Pro and even a dd in Debian GNU/Linux. Non of them worked.
[16:44] <sosaited> Really off-topic, but I can't find any other way to get an answer to this. Can someone PLEASE tell of a Youtube clip which has a sarcastic "I am sorry" ?
[16:45] <juk> novoid: unetbootin?
[16:45] <Hotmedal> Logan_WP appreciate the advice, but I can't go to that website
[16:45] <MrMintanet2> Hotmedal, Can you at least open terminal?
[16:45] <Hotmedal> or do anything else
[16:45] <Hotmedal> a terminal is opened (irssi)
[16:45] <MrMintanet2> Can you access it?
[16:45] <researcher1> whats the way to correct the fingerprint error
[16:45] <Hotmedal> yes
[16:46] <MrMintanet2> Hotmedal, Try this:  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:46] <sacarlson> novoid: well if you have windows already then unetbootin seems most people get working as I see juk already has told you
[16:46] <juk> novoid: you should make it bootable, not just dd
[16:46] <novoid> juk: what's this unetbootin?
[16:47] <Logan_WP> !unetbootin | novoid
[16:47] <sacarlson> juk: I think dd will make a bootable if the image is setup to be bootable
[16:47] <AbhijiT> !unetbootin | novoid
[16:47] <juk> novoid: yes check it too
[16:47] <AbhijiT> :(
[16:47] <novoid> juk: make it bootable? cfdisk showed 2GB of free space after dd - nothing to select to make it bootable :-(
[16:47] <ktc1> hello ubuntu-people. i have a question. when i try to use my webcam/microphone over tinychat/skype, a window appears that says "click allow, close or try again" but there is no "allow" button.. only close and try again.. anyone have any clue how to allow this?
[16:49] <novoid> If I want to test Ubuntu without modifying my hdd first, do I have to create a persistent USB stick upfront or can I test and afterwards instal Ubuntu using the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ?
[16:49] <MrMintanet2> novoid, Yes.  That's how it works.
[16:49] <Hotmedal> MrMintanet2 I did it, to no effect
[16:49] <sneakyimp> How does one add programs to the applications menu?
[16:49] <MrMintanet2> Hotmedal, did you reboot?
[16:49] <Hotmedal> no
[16:49] <MrMintanet2> Try rebooting
[16:50] <novoid> MrMintanet2: Sorry, my question was this *or* that and now I do not know what you mean by "yes" ;-)
[16:50] <Hotmedal> ok
[16:50] <ndan> gah, my mouse works at login -- however when getting in my user account it isn't working -- its a laptop mouse
[16:50] <MrMintanet2> novoid, You can do it either way...
[16:51] <novoid> MrMintanet2: ah, OK. then I have to do the complicated long list of commands only once ;-) Why is creating Ubuntu-USB-stic so complicated? grml.org needs just one single dd-command!
[16:51] <ktc1> is there anyone available to help me?
[16:51] <Logan_WP> !anyone | ktc1
[16:52] <MrMintanet2> novoid, I would think the "complicated" part of this is that you don't know what you're doing.  What operating system are you using to create the USB boot?
[16:52] <ktc1> when i try to use my webcam/microphone over tinychat/skype, a window appears that says "click allow, close or try again" but there is no "allow" button.. only close and try again.. anyone have any clue how to allow this?
[16:52] <ndan> ubuntu usb stick?   i either user unetbootin or usb-disk-creator-gtk
[16:52] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, What is your question?
[16:53] <ktc1> mrmintanet2: didnt you see it?
[16:53] <ndan> why isn't my mouse working when i log into the user but works at log in?  this happens sometimes with my keyboard -- sticky keys get turns on but i didn't see nething in accessibility
[16:53] <novoid> MrMintanet2: Oh I am familiar with cfdisk and dd but I do think that this process is pretty complicated. Take a look at grml.org. They need one single dd and that is it. I am using Debian GNU/Linux to create the Ubuntu-Stick. I also found debs of this usb-creator-gtk but it does not work at all :-(
[16:54] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, It would really help a lot if you would post an accurate "quotation" of your error message.  Try to repost the error verbatim.
[16:54] <MrMintanet2> novoid, Why not just create a live CD?
[16:54] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: ill pm you, is that ok?
[16:54] <novoid> MrMintanet2: my latptop has no optical drive.
[16:54] <novoid> MrMintanet2: lenovo X200s
[16:55] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, No.  Post in the forum so people don't think I'm a worthless guy
[16:55] <cannonball> My sound stopped working after this last update yesterday (10.10).  I used ubuntuforums advice and removed linux-sound-base, alsa-base, and alsa-utils, then reinstalled them.  It says "grep: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory".
[16:55] <bilig> hello, please help, im getting crazy, i need to go to System>Preferences in Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 anyone?
[16:55] <cannonball> I can modprobe snd-hda-intel and it loads everything and works.
[16:56] <ruan> what are the chances of an ubuntu update failing?
[16:56] <MrMintanet2> cannonball, Check third party drivers in Administration?
[16:56] <cannonball> What do I need to put (I assume in /etc/modules) to make snd-card-0 alias to snd-hda-intel?
[16:56] <cannonball> Hmm, now that it's loaded, I'm going to try removing and reinstalling the packages.  BRB
[16:56] <UbuN2> hi i was wondering is there always a ip connected too ubuntu for updates or something
[16:57] <MrMintanet2> UbuN2, Can you rephrase the question...?
[16:57] <UbuN2> i dont get why i see a ip connected to me all the time from netherlands
[16:57] <bilig> Hello , is there a way to go to System>Preferences in Ubuntu netbook?
[16:57] <MrMintanet2> UbuN2, What is the IP address...?
[16:58] <UbuN2> 62.41.85.91
[16:58] <UbuN2> no matter wht i do its always connected to ubuntu
[16:58] <sacarlson> novoid: well what I have used is install from boot direct from an iso image on hard disk with grub2,  if you already have debian installed you can probly use that
[16:58] <novoid> schmidtm: sorry: lilo
[16:58] <Hotmedal> ok so I did sudo shutdown now to while ubuntu was downloading packages for 10.10 and while shutting down it got stuck at the terminal screen (with colored asterisks) so  I pressed the power button for a while
[16:58] <Hotmedal> no lasting damage, I hope?
[16:58] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: http://i.imgur.com/c5upb.png <- this is the problem
[16:59] <Hotmedal> *to in first line is typo
[17:00] <sacarlson> novoid: with something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[17:00] <UbuN2> Any idea MrMintanet2
[17:00] <juk> novoid: i didn't find anywhere where using only dd and cfdisk
[17:00] <MrMintanet2> UbuN2, What ports is it using?
[17:00] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Install Adobe Flash...
[17:01] <sacarlson> novoid:  cool new thing that grub2 has is boot from iso,  lilo last I looked can't do it
[17:01] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Install Adobe Flash from the software center.
[17:01] <UbuN2> mmm
[17:01] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: : i have adobe flash installed
[17:01] <juk> novoid: ubuntu help they use fdisk ubuntu iso and syslinux loader
[17:01] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: hmm, okay
[17:01] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, "Adobe" flash...
[17:01] <UbuN2> just gonna check MrMintanet2
[17:01] <MrMintanet2> UbuN2, I looked, but can't find anything useful
[17:01] <juk> novoid: scroll to the footer there's usfull links
[17:02] <ymonir> hello guys - i have problem to watch  avi file = i dont know how to solve it - any help
[17:02] <juk> novoid: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[17:02] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: adobe flash plugin is the only one, except "adobe flash plugin for mozilla" which i have.
[17:02] <RzaRza> I have a question regarding OTR encryption, anyone here using it?
[17:02] <MrMintanet2> UbuN2, This is what I found:  I'm sure you probably already have this...  http://who.is/whois/eurorings.net/
[17:03] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Let's try this...
[17:03] <itaylor57> UbuN2: how are you determing you have that connection?
[17:03] <juk> !partitioning | cfdisk poor choise novoid:
[17:03] <ResQue> i get a strange errpr when i try to run apt-get update. any ideas guys? "Buss Error (core dumped). 0&""
[17:04] <yuan> i'm try linux
[17:04] <rokyronnie> I've a problem
[17:04] <novoid> If there is any developer reading this: take a look at grml.org live distro: they offer a LOT easier way to get a bootable stick or install their system. I do think that Ubuntu can be optimized here a lot.
[17:04] <UbuN2> netstat -ntup | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[17:04] <UbuN2> netstat -ntu | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[17:05] <ymonir> ok - some how i solved the problem
[17:05] <ResQue> when i run apt-get update i get this error "Reading package lists... Error!
[17:05] <ResQue> E: Read error - read (14: Bad address)". can anyone help me please?
[17:05] <juk> novoid: so go for it why asking
[17:05] <UbuN2> think its port 80
[17:05] <UbuN2> nope one second
[17:06] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Try this:  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_10.2_for_Linux_(.deb)
[17:06] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Copy/Paste the entire link (including the
[17:06] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Copy/Paste the entire link (including the (.deb) part).
[17:17] <MrMintanet2> novoid, Are you using the same USB?  Perhaps the USB is at fault...?
[17:17] <LinuxNoob> but, for my question, when i boot up , get past bios, and post, right before the login screen where i enter my ubuntu login and password, it gives me a bunch of errors one i can rememeber being i950 or osmething like that
[17:17] <novoid> question related to encrypted $HOME: is there a fixed size for that or grows/shrinks the encrypted $HOME with its used content size?
[17:17] <LinuxNoob> ie95..etc.. and i get a few more errors
[17:17] <novoid> MrMintanet2: yes, I am sure.
[17:17] <madwill> i do not feel like lts means its more stable in a computer running services
[17:17] <thams> My Ubuntu won't boot. It displays the boot splash screen and doesn't go beyond. What can I do?
[17:17] <juk> !stable
[17:17] <MrMintanet2> novoid, Obviosuly there isn't some "black magic" going on here.  You obviously have a bigger problem going on...  Are you sure your system is configured to boot to USB devices properly in the BIOS?
[17:17] <madwill> ok i got it ;)
[17:17] <UbuN2> yep MrMintanet2 port 80
[17:17] <novoid> MrMintanet2: I can't test it again with another stick because the only WinXP Computer here at our institute is maintained by the admins and I have to go and get an admin to enter Adminstrator password every time this Ubuntu-tools starts. And it quits after each error. -> dumb tool :-(
[17:17] <novoid> MrMintanet2: yes, I can boot any other live dstro without problme.
[17:17] <UbuN2> strange thanks for trying anyways :)
[17:17] <MrMintanet2> novoid, are you sure your downloaded Ubuntu .iso isn't corrupt?
[17:17] <juk> novoid: i told you try unetbootin and other websites
[17:17] <ruan> check the md5sum
[17:17] <novoid> MrMintanet2: good point. Let's check ...
[17:17] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: I solved the problem, found solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526092    -   thanks for trying to help and im stupid that i didnt search more on the web.
[17:17] <apocalyptiq> juk: it adds x to files and directories
[17:17] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, I am an idiot.  Don't thank me.  :)
[17:17] <juk> !details | apocalyptiq
[17:18] <novoid> Where can I get the md5sums of the Ubuntu-ISOs?
[17:18] <MrMintanet2> On the download page
[17:18] <ktc1> MrMintanet2: why would you say that? you tried to help me and for that i am thankful :)
[17:18] <genii-around> !md5
[17:18] <juk> !md5 > novoid
[17:18] <novoid> juk: Sorry, my Windows admin has hit weekend and without admin password, those tools do nothing.
[17:18] <MrMintanet2> ktc1, Modesty :)  Glad to have tried.
[17:19] <juk> novoid: dont be
[17:19] <xukun> hoi all. I just installed a new ssd as a OS disk but now I need to mount my old disk but I don;t know what it;s called. before they were /dev/md0 and /dev/md1
[17:19] <apocalyptiq> juk: I have a problem with setting x for directories. I'm running Ubuntu version 10.10. When I try to do chmod -R 755 dir/, I get the following output: files and directories has 755, but i expected it to do files 655 and directories 755.
[17:20] <rumpe1> xukun, sudo fdisk -l  should list it
[17:20] <novoid> MrMintanet2: md5sum is OK
[17:21] <sacarlson> novoid: well maybe virtualbox run inside windows might be an option to at least get a taiste of ubuntu
[17:21] <rumpe1> apocalyptiq, then use chmod -R 644 and then chmod -R +X
[17:21] <ymonir> no one here knows the command for checking if i have error or not ?
[17:21] <novoid> schmidtm: yes but not if I want to test my hardware support: suspend, special keys, WLAN, external VGA, ...
[17:21] <azertyu> hello my world
[17:21] <MrMintanet2> novoid, perhaps you should just order one.  :)  I have no idea.  Sounds like you are one of those people who overcomplicate things... no offense.  I really can't understand how you could be having this problem creating this disk using every mainstream OS on the market... Just seems odd.  Something is wrong, and it sounds like you will need to troubleshoot it for some time...
[17:22] <apocalyptiq> rumpe1, thanks :-)
[17:22] <novoid> MrMintanet2: OK. TNX for help anyway. I'll go and find someone with a running Ubuntu in order to get this damn USB stick :-(
[17:22] <sacarlson> novoid: I test wifi usb devices and network tests from within virtualbox
[17:22] <ruan> i once ran ubuntu off VMware
[17:23] <ruan> it went well
[17:23] <UbuN2> ow MrMintanet2 it says clock applet
[17:23] <Undisclosed99> does a low battery at startup have any influence on the amount of RAM loaded?
[17:23] <alien2601> novoid, Ubuntu comes with Wubi which installs directly as an application within windows ..
[17:23] <UbuN2> maybe its the something to with the clock
[17:23] <ruan> Undisclosed99: i doubt it
[17:23] <novoid> schmidtm: No, you"re testing the hand-over of your real hardware to the VM-drivers - that's a difference ;-)
[17:24] <azertyu> by doing grep -R dataone /home/user i got a list of file which called dataone, what is the command for copying every file called dataone at the same time ?
[17:24] <Undisclosed99> well when my battery isnt full and i start up i only see 744.4MiB instead of 2.7GiB
[17:24] <novoid> alien2601: Sorry, I wanted to *install* Ubunto on my notebook in order to work with it. If it does not work, I change the whole system to Debian stable afterwards. I am coming from Debian unstable.
[17:24] <^Mufassa> this is cool
[17:25] <swapna> wow
[17:25] <azertyu> i mean is it possible to Copy -R dataone /home/user to copy every file named dataone at same time is that  possible ?
[17:25] <^Mufassa> never seen a place so helpfull
[17:25] <ruan> lol
[17:25] <novoid> question related to encrypted $HOME: is there a fixed size for that or grows/shrinks the encrypted $HOME with its used content size?
[17:26] <MrMintanet2> UbuN2, Sounds like NTP
[17:26] <UbuN2> i think so dude
[17:27] <ymonir> iam having error always when i install any new application of plugin or what  ever ....
[17:28] <ruan> ymonir: what is the error?
[17:28] <eXpLoD>  if i have a directory named * on ~,how can i delete it?rm ~/* deltes everything
[17:28] <ymonir> ruan  . how can i post the image for you
[17:29] <Undisclosed99> how can i stop the system from thinking my battery is critically low?
[17:29] <Abinadi> good morning peeps
[17:29] <Djoef> Hi, Just installed ubuntu 10.10, I downloaded blender (www.blender.org) but I cannot execute it (permission denied) I use sudo ./blender and then the terminal tells me  "command not found"... ? what is going wrong here ?
[17:29] <MrMintanet2> Undisclosed99, Charge your battery.
[17:30] <Djoef> ah ok
[17:30] <Djoef> chmod :)
[17:30] <ymonir> ruan, how can i post you the error i always get
[17:30] <ruan> Undisclosed99: disable the battery applet or whatever is running.. or charge the battery
[17:30] <Djoef> sorry forgot
[17:30] <swapna> how to access pc in lan from another remote pc
[17:30] <ruan> ymonir: you can press print screen on the keyboard, then save to desktop and upload to imageshack.us
[17:30] <Undisclosed99> ruan: the problem is that if my battery is fully charged and i take the mains off...it tells me its critical
[17:30] <Abinadi> !pastbin | ymonir
[17:31] <MrMintanet2> Undisclosed99, Are you sure your batt isn't going south?
[17:31] <Undisclosed99> MrMintanet2: I thought that too, but its fine
[17:31] <swapna> how to access pc in lan from another remote pc
[17:31] <swapna> how to access pc in lan from another remote pc
[17:31] <swapna> how to access pc in lan from another remote pc
[17:31] <Undisclosed99> MrMintanet2: I have had this since I bought it
[17:31] <FloodBot3> swapna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Djoef> hm still when trying to run from a different partition, I am not allowed (I saved it there from within ubuntu) Should I change the permissions for this partition ? and how can I do that ? chmod 777 /dev/sda2 ?
[17:32] <Djoef> Or should this be done differently ?
[17:32] <Abinadi> ymonir: paste your info to httpe://www.pastebin.com
[17:33] <ymonir> ruan. http://img718.imageshack.us/i/screenshotapk.png/
[17:33] <sacarlson> swapna: access meaning files or do you want to run processes on it or see the graphic screen from remote and do stuf?
[17:33] <velope> Djoef: try chmod a+b/ccc*uix/k___!11
[17:33] <swapna> remote
[17:33] <sre-su> When Ubuntu installation is done by default, how much space does the installer allocates for /,/boot etc for desktop system in percentage?
[17:33] <rubenvaldez> conectate despues de las 15 hs pero en otro servidor...
[17:34] <sacarlson> swapna: remote what evvirnment?  I'm guessing graphic so vnc then
[17:34] <Djoef> velope, ?
[17:34] <swapna> sacar;son: cant enable remote desktop from another remote pc
[17:34] <rubenvaldez> nose en que pais estas ahora ????
[17:34] <scp> Hi guys, After linux updated today, It's started booting automatically without giving me the option to choose between it av win7. Is there any easy way I can get this bootloader/grup up working again, without to much trouble?
[17:34] <ymonir> Abinadi i cant open this link
[17:34] <agile> hey all, about to pull the trigger on ordering a new laptop but a little trepidatious about ordering it with an ati m7820 vs an nvidia qfx 2800 or 3800.. how's the ati driver situation these days? I've only used nvidia for a long long time..
[17:35] <sacarlson> swapna: well you can if you have ssh running on the remote side
[17:35] <Abinadi> ymonir: try this one then:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:35] <ruan> can't see the full error
[17:35] <rubenvaldez> dale hablamos suerte y un abrazo
[17:35] <kresp0> im trying to use "ssh -D" to make a SOCKS proxy, but i cant make it work.
[17:35] <kresp0> the server allows me to log in after "ssh -D 7070 user@server"
[17:36] <kresp0> but when i configure firefox to use localhost:7070 as a SOCKS proxy, it just dont work
[17:36] <kresp0> if i do telnet localhost 7070, it connects. but after a GET / HTTP/1.1 it drops the connection.
[17:36] <ymonir> Abinadi : http://paste.ubuntu.com/568829/
[17:36] <swapna> sacarlson : but if there is more than 1 pc connected to lan ... then the ip address wont give the correct pc
[17:36] <ymonir> Abinadi: http://img718.imageshack.us/i/screenshotapk.png/
[17:37] <sipior> kresp0: that sounds right. you're not speaking http to it. have you tried it with a web browser?
[17:37] <Ubuntu-User> how to  install skype
[17:37] <kresp0> yep sipior. with firefox and crome
[17:37] <LjL> !skype | Ubuntu-User
[17:37] <sacarlson> swapna: you saying that you have two systems on the same ip address?  maybe dhcpd is setup wrong or do you run ip static?
[17:37] <sipior> kresp0: and what happens when you set the proxy information for those browsers?
[17:37] <droidftw> `!ekiga
[17:37] <droidftw> !ekiga
[17:38] <Abinadi> you can install skype on ubuntu but it is a piece of garbage right now.
[17:38] <sipior> kresp0: also, you made sure to use a socks proxy, and not http proxy?
[17:38] <kresp0> sipior: on firefox, it do nothing. just empty pages
[17:38] <kresp0> on chromium, it says this error:
[17:38] <kresp0>  "Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): Error desconocido."
[17:38] <ruan> no response from proxy
[17:38] <ruan> it seems
[17:38] <sre-su> For / during installation, how much space should be allocated?
[17:39] <ymonir> Abinadi : any suggestion ?
[17:39] <sipior> kresp0: try issuing the ssh command with the -v switch, and see if anything interesting turns up.
[17:39] <Abinadi> ymonir: I don't. sorry
[17:39] <kresp0> ok, one sec sipio
[17:39] <stianhj> sre-su, 20 Gb
[17:39] <kresp0> sipior
[17:39] <itaylor57> Abinadi: mine works ok
[17:39] <Ubuntu-User> !Ekiga
[17:39] <ymonir> any one can help me with my error?
[17:39] <swapna> sacarlson:i havent configured dhcp.and too dont have othr computer in lan.... -- its my doubt how to do it.. and also...the current problem is.... when i want enable settings on remote desktop view.. it shows only the local intenet connected users can only view my desktop
[17:39] <Abinadi> sre-su: I allocated 50 GB which is plenty
[17:40] <ymonir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/568829/
[17:40] <ymonir> http://img718.imageshack.us/i/screenshotapk.png/
[17:40] <Djoef> Ok, is it possible that by default you are not allowed to execute files on a partition formatted as ntfs under windows. (shared partition) I can save files an edit them but not execute on my new install of ubuntu 10.10. In the properties of /media/DATA I did check the "allow execute files"..
[17:40] <kresp0> sipior, all seems ok on the verbose output
[17:40] <sre-su> Abinadi: stianhj: How much space in percentage the ubuntu installer takes, if its done by default?
[17:40] <sipior> kresp0: what happens when you try using the proxy?
[17:40] <Abinadi> itaylor57: I'm glad it's working for someone right now, but I couldn't get it to work at all.  It was buggy as hell
[17:41] <sacarlson> swapna: the local user thing is a security setting I assume you are using in vino-server vnc
[17:41] <kresp0> sipior, one sec
[17:41] <itaylor57> Abinadi: my video and mic works; i talk reguarly with my daughter in australia
[17:42] <stianhj> sre-su, i'm not sure
[17:42] <coz_> ymonir,   so the chip is not supported  :(
[17:42] <sysadm> i upgraded from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, i am running kernel 2.6.35-25, i searched ubuntu forums for some guides to fix this problem and they were not helpful, PROBLEM: after upgrade i cant here sound from flash in firefox
[17:42] <kresp0> ey, it says something sipior:
[17:42] <kresp0> Connection to port 7777 forwarding to socks port 0 requested.
[17:42] <stianhj> sre-su, i've always done that bit manually
[17:42] <kresp0> debug1: channel 3: new [dynamic-tcpip]
[17:42] <Abinadi> sre-su: I don't know what the percentage is but I thought allocating 50 GB was plenty with enough to let the system grow if it needed to
[17:42] <kresp0> debug1: channel 3: free: dynamic-tcpip, nchannels 4
[17:42] <Dazzled> any Chrome users here?
[17:42] <kresp0> nothing more
[17:42] <ymonir> coz_ what chip?
[17:42] <sipior> kresp0: didn't you want 7070?
[17:42] <ymonir> coz_ how can i solve it ?
[17:42] <swapna> sacarlson ; nops no vnc installed
[17:42] <sysadm> i upgraded from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, i am running kernel 2.6.35-25, i searched ubuntu forums for some guides to fix this problem and they were not helpful, PROBLEM: after upgrade i cant here sound from flash in firefox
[17:42] <madsurgeon> Hi, I have installed a fresh ubuntu 10.10 and it works all, except watching video on youtube. I have installed the Adobe flashplayer 10 package, but to no avail. The video area just stays black. What shall I do?
[17:42] <Wulfy> Dazzled,  chrome os or google chrome the browser? (im the latter)
[17:42] <Dazzled> Wulfy: the browser
[17:43] <stianhj> Is there a fix for Intel wifi cards and 802.11n networks?
[17:43] <coz_> ymonir,   in  your pastebin  " Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e4:4315!
[17:43] <coz_>  "
[17:43] <sre-su> stianhj: Abinadi: Alrigth. thanks
[17:43] <Wulfy> Dazzled,  then yes theres one here
[17:43] <kresp0> good point sipior, i changed to 7777 on both the ssh -D option and the firefox config
[17:43] <Abinadi> itaylor57: I use it to talk to my family too (which is scattered all over creation), but I just could never get it working right in mavarick.
[17:43] <No1> only sound ... sysadm
[17:43] <ymonir> coz_ : ok but what is it for ? and how to solve it ?
[17:43] <sacarlson> swapna: remote desktop is a vnc program called vino-server,  there are others but that is the default
[17:43] <itaylor57> Dazzled: I use chromium
[17:43] <sysadm> Nol, yes
[17:43] <Dazzled> I'm reading this atm: http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/output/print/bgnet_A4.pdf
[17:43] <ruan> teamviewer also works on ubuntu right?
[17:44] <stianhj> madsurgeon, which browser?
[17:44] <coz_> ymonir,   I am not sure there is a solution if the chip itself is not supported withtha firmware installer
[17:44] <No1> sound ok on media player  ... sysadm
[17:44] <sacarlson> swapna: you can also change the settings remotely with ssh with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[17:44] <coz_> ymonir,   what is t his for?
[17:44] <Dazzled> and whenever I copy something from the PDF, it switches } with {
[17:44] <madsurgeon> stinhj: chromium
[17:44] <sysadm> Nol, yes sound is ok in media player
[17:44] <ruan> coz_: hes getting an error whilst trying to install a package
[17:44] <madsurgeon> or firefox
[17:44] <sre-su> stianhj: Abinadi: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html says 4GB for /
[17:44] <Wulfy> Dazzled,  sorry unless theres a prity good reason i dont follow links especialy things like pdf's
[17:44] <coz_> Dazzled,   copy what from a PDF?
[17:44] <ymonir> coz_ iam chatting to you
[17:44] <coz_> ruan,   ah I see
[17:44] <Dazzled> c++ code :)
[17:45] <sacarlson> swapna: if your not using vino to get better help you should specify what software you are having problems with
[17:45] <Abinadi> ruan: yes. teamviewer works in linux
[17:45] <stianhj> sre-su, as a minimum to install it, yes. but if you're going to install some stuff, you should have much more space
[17:45] <coz_> ymonir,   yes I see that ,,apparenlty that firmware package is not going to install because the c hip the firmware is for is not supported
[17:45] <Dazzled> it's just something minor, I'll cross check with FF, I was annoyed by it, but it's not really Ubuntu related
[17:45] <ruan> ok, then add that to the remote access list
[17:45] <ruan> nvm
[17:45] <sre-su> stianhj: For more packages?
[17:46] <swapna> sacarlson : that link was helpfull.. thanks a lot
[17:46] <kresp0> sipior, still dont work. btw, i've added these 2 options someone give me "AllowTCPForwarding yes" and "PermitTunnel yes" and then restarted sshd
[17:46] <coz_> Dazzled,  if you are tryiing to extract text or images from pdf  there is a command for those things
[17:46] <sacarlson> swapna: well if it was helpfull then you are running veno-server?
[17:46] <stianhj> sre-su, yes. when you install, let's say Inkscape or LibreOffice or something, that get's installed on / (normally)
[17:46] <Abinadi> sre-su: 4 gb seems to be enough, but I was taking any chances and I had enough drive space to allocate it, so I did
[17:47] <Dazzled> coz_ : well I'm trying to familiarize myself again with sockets :)
[17:47] <Dazzled> but seems the document-viewer does this as well, I don't get why the } gets turned into a {
[17:48] <blackxored> hello everbody, I wanted to know I've done it in the past, so I know it's possible, I kinda forgot, and since i'm about to do it again, I choose to ask, how you can use alternate CD to do a clean install while keeping your encryption setup?
[17:48] <stianhj> sre-su, 20 gb is plenty of space.. if installed a lot of stuff.. and i've got 11 gigs free
[17:48] <Dazzled> hmm, no it doesn't do it in document-viewer
[17:48] <stianhj> sre-su: i've installed*
[17:48] <sysadm> Nol ???
[17:48] <juk> !oo | Dazzled:
[17:48] <madsurgeon> stianhj: firefox
[17:49] <juk> !unoconv | Dazzled:
[17:49] <stianhj> madsurgeon, and you've restarted the browser etc?
[17:49] <No1> try to uninstall flash sysadm
[17:49] <juk> !info unoconv
[17:49] <No1> and reinstall
[17:49] <sysadm> Nol, i though of that
[17:49] <blackxored> anyone???
[17:49] <sysadm> Nol, i am testing holdon
[17:49] <sre-su> stianhj: I was interested more in percentage actaully. Anyways, thanks. Abinadi
[17:49] <Abinadi> sre-su: welcom
[17:49] <madsurgeon> stianhj: yes, sure
[17:51] <madsurgeon> No1: uninstalling flash sysadm - was that an answer for my problem?
[17:51] <No1> maybe yes
[17:52] <sysadm> Nol, didnt work
[17:52] <l1nuxman_snooze> anyone use bluefish editor?
[17:53] <azertyu> hello there
[17:53] <madsurgeon> quit
[17:54] <l1nuxman> I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but I can't see the cursor on the lines on some documents
[17:54] <sysadm> i upgraded from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, i am running kernel 2.6.35-25, i searched ubuntu forums for some guides to fix this problem and they were not helpful, PROBLEM: after upgrade i cant here sound from flash in firefox
[17:55] <Abinadi> sysadm: have you installed the flash driver?
[17:55] <Abinadi> I think it gets installed by default, but you might check
[17:55] <sysadm> Abinadi, flash driver :S what is that, are you talking about flash plugin, flash plugin is installed
[17:55] <keithl>  /join #ptawug
[17:56] <Abinadi> sysadm: lol yeah, that is what I was talking abuout
[17:56] <sysadm> Abinadi, ok its installed, flash elements play , but without sound
[17:56] <zesoze> hi...I'm getting ubuntu 10.10 from official website and there is recommended the 32bits version, what is the any reason for that recommendation?
[17:56] <ruan> what are the chances of an update failing?
[17:56] <epop> im having alot of trouble with missing kernel headers errors whenever i try to install anything.  I've tried installing them from the console and from the package manager, but they fail installing.  I've posted an example of what I see when I try to install something here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568838/
[17:56] <zesoze> My machine is 64bits
[17:56] <Abinadi> hmmmmm....
[17:56] <epop> if you have tons of ram use 64bit, if you don't you might want to go with 32bit
[17:57] <azertyu> by doing : grep -R files1 /home/user i got a liste of file named file1, now i want to copy all file named files1 on a specific directory how to do ?
[17:57] <Abinadi> |sound | sysad
[17:57] <Abinadi> ack
[17:57] <Abinadi> !sound | sysadm
[17:57] <sysadm> zesoze,  go for 64 bit, its more stable than before and thus more usable, GO FOR IT :)
[17:57] <azertyu> by doing : grep -R files1 /home/user i got a liste of file named file1, now i want to copy all file named files1 on a specific directory how to do ?
[17:57] <epop> i run 32bit on my laptop because i've heard 64bit is kinda bad on the battery life
[17:57] <epop> and i only have 4gigs of ram in it
[17:58] <sysadm> Abinadi, -_-"
[17:58] <azertyu> anyone there ?
[17:58] <azertyu> by doing : grep -R files1 /home/user i got a liste of file named file1, now i want to copy all file named files1 on a specific directory how to do ?
[17:58] <Abinadi> epop: I have actually gotten better battery life using 64 bit on my HP dv7
[17:58] <jon8> if this.. find * -type f -size 0 .. finds all files that have a size of 0 .. how can i delete those files as well
[17:58] <Abinadi> sysadm: sorry if that doesn't help
[17:58] <sysadm> i upgraded from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, i am running kernel 2.6.35-25, i searched ubuntu forums for some guides to fix this problem and they were not helpful, PROBLEM: after upgrade i cant here sound from flash in firefox
[17:58] <gagan_> hello IRC , i just started
[17:58] <ruan> cp /home/user/file1* [directory to copy file1s to]
[17:59] <ruan> something like that
[17:59] <ResQue> it seems i have managed to mount a device /dev/sr0 twice, can anyone help me unmount it?
[17:59] <No1> sysadm, try [17:59] <No1> goodluck :)
[17:59] <Gartral> Ok, I've been racking my noggin all morning trying too remember the name of an application that allowed one too start a secondary user-session in a window.. can anyone help me out?
[18:00] <zesoze>  is a dell precision 670.....
[18:00] <zesoze> with 8gb of ram....
[18:00] <Abinadi> Gartral: are you talking about running your second session in something like a VirtualBox?
[18:00] <Ubuntu-User> I love Ubuntu and its help / Forums
[18:01] <MrBalle> Need helt with Ubuntu Server 10.10, am I perhaps in the right place? Don't wanna interrupt anyone so no hurry :)
[18:01] <marotteo901> ciao
[18:01] <trism> Gartral: xnest or xephyr
[18:01] <azertyu> by doing : grep -R files1 /home/user i got a liste of file named file1, now i want to copy all file named files1 on a specific directory how to do ?
[18:01] <maccy> anyone want to help me get my mouse back?
[18:01] <ruan> what are the chances of an update failing?
[18:01] <geekbri> azertyu: you should probably use the find command along with the -exec option
[18:01] <Naru> Hi .    anyone knows DVWA? anyone used the distro?
[18:01] <maccy> anyone?
[18:01] <marotteo901> !list
[18:02] <zesoze> sorry I have 3gb of ram not 8gb
[18:02] <Abinadi> !topic | Naru
[18:02] <geekbri> MrBalle: what help do you need, asking a question is usually helpful :)
[18:03] <azertyu> find for what purpose ? coz here to copy files geekbri
[18:03] <zesoze> so is recommended install 64 bits ?
[18:03] <maccy> does anyone know why a mouse might go invisible?
[18:03] <Abinadi> !details | MrBalle
[18:03] <ohsix> maccy: i think by default it'll disappear while you're typing
[18:03] <ruan> zesoze: if you have less than 4gb it is recommended to use 32bit
[18:03] <maccy> no, its not just that
[18:03] <MrBalle> I have 2 CPUs (Xeons) in my server but can't seem to get Ubuntu to detect both even though BIOS does. Have changed kernel to i SMP one but still doesn't work.
[18:03] <Gartral> trism: THANKS
[18:04] <maccy> its compleatly gone
[18:04] <geekbri> azertyu: well if all you want to do is copy files just type cp <filename> <file_destination>
[18:04] <zesoze> thx
[18:04] <maccy> as in i have to use the find pointer button to see it
[18:04] <Abinadi> maccy: my mouse disappears by default when I'm typing on my laptop
[18:04] <Jehiva> hi
[18:04] <ohsix> 64bit ftw
[18:04] <maccy> the mouse hasnt shown up since i started the computer
[18:05] <azertyu> it is not easy as that
[18:05] <clasnik> Whats the enviroment variable I need to set to force make to use -j4 all the time?
[18:05] <Abinadi> maccy: try System>>Preferences>>Mouse
[18:06] <gbear14275> can someone check to see if they have a "services" option under their administration menu?  I read an article that said there was a control panel for services (like there is for startup applications) but I don't have it
[18:06] <ruan> floodbot is flooding?
[18:06] <IdleOne> ruan: no
[18:07] <azertyu> well
[18:07] <ajitam> hi I manage to messup my samba. I did remove and then install again. But now I can get smb to run. Is there a way to completely remove smb and then install it again ?
[18:07] <UbuN2> gbear14275, nope
[18:07] <azertyu> a small question have no answer ?
[18:07] <azertyu> what 's ubuntu ?
[18:07] <ohsix> floodbot does generate a lot of lines for all the flooding it stops, though!
[18:07] <IdleOne> !ubuntu > azertyu
[18:07] <ruan> !ubuntu
[18:08] <ruan> oh right
[18:10] <MrBalle> geekbri; Abinadi; ubottu: I have 2 CPUs (Xeons) in my server but can't seem to get Ubuntu to detect both even though BIOS does. Have changed kernel to i SMP one but still doesn't work. Need more info?
[18:11] <geekbri> MrBalle: that is a tough question, probably one i can't answer but when you do cat /proc/cpuinfo it shows both of them or no?
[18:11] <Abinadi> MrBalle: ubottu is a bot and I don't have the answer to your dilemna.  sorry
[18:12] <MrBalle> geekbri: No it doesn't...
[18:12] <geekbri> MrBalle: well thats not good at all.
[18:13] <mkquist_> ajitam: sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[18:13] <geekbri> MrBalle: I dont think i've got the tools to help answer this one for you... try #ubuntu-server
[18:13] <MrBalle> geekbri: yeah... BIOS shows them but ubuntu doesn't.. Maybe I should check the BIOS if there's some idiotic checkbox to enable both even if it shows  both at boot...
[18:13] <marcrouse> hi i suche logari81
[18:13]  * rany27 what
[18:13] <MrBalle> geekbri: ok thanks!
[18:13] <marcrouse> where he is?
[18:14] <ajitam> mkquist_: thx I'll try that
[18:14] <Abinadi> ack
[18:15] <marcrouse> Hellou, i suche Logari81, where he is?
[18:15] <geekbri> MrBalle: i would defintley play with the bios settings a bit just to make sure its not something silly there.
[18:15] <IdleOne> if he is not in this channel, we don't know.
[18:16] <juk> MrBalle: how ubuntu supposed to detect cpu(s)?
[18:17] <MrBalle> geekbri: Yeah, I'll do that as soon as I can. Thanks to everyone, I'll check with #ubuntu-server!
[18:17] <juk> ah
[18:17] <ruan> ok im going to restart for updates now. i hope it works
[18:17] <mbeierl> marcrouse: from the looks of it, there is no one here by that nick right now
[18:17] <MrBalle> juk: I mean it does not show the second one in cpuinfo :(
[18:18] <juk> MrBalle: /proc/cpuinfo ?
[18:18] <salvatore> salve
[18:18] <droidftw> hey guys
[18:18] <salvatore> hy
[18:19] <juk> MrBalle: is doesnt show is it means not using?
[18:19] <minimec> emulate3buttons in maverick 10.10? I thought that emulate3buttons was set 'true' in ubuntu. How would I have that again in maverick?
[18:21] <MichealH> minimec, Was it something you installed before?
[18:21] <SmokeyD_> hey everyone. I have a virtual machine with ubuntu server running in it. The machine is a clone of another machine. But the clone doesn't see the network interface
[18:22] <SmokeyD_> the interface is a virtual intel network interface
[18:22] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:22] <SmokeyD_> but calling ifup eth0 says the network device is not found
[18:22] <SmokeyD_> but lspci does show the network interface
[18:22] <andycc> minimec, odd, 3 button emulation works for me
[18:22] <joachim> No go
[18:23] <Arunvkumarkc> hi
[18:23] <ruan> fdisk -l isn't working for me :/
[18:23] <ruan> it returns nothing
[18:23] <Arunvkumarkc> im using jmIrc
[18:23] <Oer> SmokeyD_, stop the image, go into pref. > network interface , and set it on 'Bridge' and start the image again
[18:23] <juk> ruan: sudo
[18:23] <pros977> Does anyone have any information about accessing freenode via xchat or irssi through a proxy?
[18:23] <MichealH> Hi Arunvkumarkc
[18:23] <minimec> andycc: Not working here neither with the laptop buttons, nor with a Logitech AIR... I have no idea why...
[18:24] <ruan> ahhh thanks
[18:24] <Arunvkumarkc> hi MichaelH
[18:24] <Abinadi> can someone tell me why VBAdditions would be mounting in mavarick every time I load it into VirtualBox?
[18:25] <andycc> minimec, isn't this a flag that you can set in xorg.conf? IIRC, xorg.conf is stil parsed although not the main method of configuration.
[18:25] <Abinadi> !VirtualBox
[18:25] <minimec> andycc: Why should I create a xorg.conf, if it is not needed anymore?
[18:25] <Oer> Abinadi, after install, go into mediamanager and delete the VBadditions iso.
[18:26] <ruan> just wondering, but why does update manager select -22 and -25 kernels?
[18:26] <ruan> instead of having just 1 main kernel
[18:26] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[18:26] <Abinadi> 0er:  well that was obvious.  Jeez, sometimes I want to hit my head against the wall.  lol
[18:26] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of any software that I can use to generate graphs? Not openoffice, it is not adequate.
[18:26] <ohsix> gnuplot :]
[18:27] <andycc> andycc, it's not needed, but I believe you can still set flags in it and they'll be parsed. I'm not a guru, so I don't know exactly.
[18:27] <minimec> andycc: So you say with a normal ubuntu 10.10 'emulate3buttons' is enabled for your devices by default?
[18:27] <Abinadi> Oer: Thanks!
[18:27] <BlueEagle> Tetracomm: What are the graphs going to be used for?
[18:27] <cfchris6_> I have a box running lucid doing dhcp on multiple interfaces. How can I pass the dhcpclient a different configuration/handler for each interface?
[18:27] <ruan> use ubuntu software center
[18:27] <ruan> to search for software, before asking
[18:27] <andycc> minimec, yes, I always use that functionality (I have a laptop, and I'm a tab addict).
[18:28] <minimec> andycc: My words. I cannot live without it. That's why I am so pissed... ;)
[18:28] <Oer> cfchris6_, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:28] <madsj> hi; whenever I boot, my ubuntu 10.04 tries to mount the cdrom-drive, and I have to cancel that by pressing S; how do I get rid of this?
[18:29] <pyroscope> Tetracomm: saying what doesn't fulfill your as of yet unspecified requirements doesn't replace telling them
[18:29] <BlueEagle> minimec: xorg.conf can still be useful even if the default values in most cases are sane enough.
[18:29] <BlueEagle> minimec: Alteast that's what I've thought.
[18:29] <andycc> minimec, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[18:29] <minimec> andycc: I have no idea, why it is not workling. Only solution could be the use of the x-edgers ppa, but with previous versions I never had this problem, even using x-edgers.
[18:30] <Abinadi> madsj: is the iso in your path, or is the cd still in your dvd drive?
[18:30] <Taos> how can I fully uninstall ubuntu without fucking my boot up?
[18:30] <minimec> BlueEagle: That is true, but for this I should not need to create a xorg.conf....
[18:30] <andycc> Taos, how did you install it?
[18:30] <Taos> boot disk.
[18:30] <IdleOne> Taos: first by not swearing please
[18:30] <adub_> how can i tell if i am running the 180 or 190 version of nvidia graphics driver i hear a lot of talk about these
[18:31] <madsj> Abinadi: I use "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:31] <Taos> IdleOne: Apollogies.
[18:31] <IdleOne> Taos: you will need a windows CD to fixmbr
[18:31] <BlueEagle> minimec: Well, if you want to add to or override the default settings of X then xorg.conf is still the way to do it.
[18:31] <minimec> BlueEagle: I mean, this is trivial basic stuff that always worked.
[18:31] <madsj> Abinadi: so no cds or dvds were ever involved
[18:31] <Taos> Okay then I want to replace all ubuntu with arch
[18:31] <andycc> Taos, Windows has a disk partitioning app. I'm assuming you can just run fixmbr, delete the Ubuntu partition and resize the windows one.
[18:31] <Taos> Leave the boot manager in order
[18:31] <BlueEagle> minimec: Things change even when it, for some, is for the worse.
[18:31] <Abinadi> madsj: sorry, then I can't help you.  I'm still kinda green mystelf
[18:32] <andycc> minimec, did you look at that link? It tells you how to change udev rules for input devices.
[18:32] <andycc> (i.e. how to get emulate3buttons to work again)
[18:32] <minimec> BlueEagle: I agree, but I use two configs with this laptop (one screen/dual screen solution) I don't want to mess with xorg.conf, if xrander finally makes me happy.
[18:32] <minimec> andycc: Gonna give it a look ;)
[18:34] <Malkavian_> hi, I am using Maverick and looking for the glibc sources; which package do I have to install?
[18:35] <Oer> Malkavian_, open synaptics, itś a detailed softwarecentre
[18:36] <Oer> Malkavian_, it is in your system menu on the top panel
[18:36] <pp7> how do i change the touchpad sensitivity (not cursor speed etc.) in ubuntu?
[18:36] <Malkavian_> Oer: I have searched with apt-cache and didnot found anything; I am on Kubuntu, no Synaptic
[18:36] <ruan> what does the package ubuntu-desktop do?
[18:36] <replicasex> Does anyone know why I would be able to install Unity 2d on a VM but not on my actual system?  Both are running 10.10 but my actual system just won't run Unity.  I get the GDM option but it shows classic ubuntu
[18:37] <exitweb> Hi
[18:37] <Abinadi> Malkavian_: I just looked in the software center and i can't find anything.
[18:37] <exitweb> Are there a modul which can safely disable all contrib modules?
[18:37] <exitweb> whops
[18:37] <thangavel> does anybody know the maximum resolution of the picture that can be uploaded in the facebook profile...
[18:37] <exitweb> it isnt the drupal room sorry
[18:38] <Abinadi> !ubuntu | thangavel
[18:38] <Malkavian_> Abinadi: yep, I find only some Elib sources, but I am not sure, this is what I am looking for
[18:38] <Wulfy> !ot | thangavel
[18:39] <replicasex> It's odd because I didn't get any install errors or anything, it just doesn't show up as Unity, it is just Ubuntu Classic.
[18:39] <Abinadi> Wulfy: thanks lol, I forgot the command
[18:39] <Wulfy> Abinadi,  :) no worrys
[18:40] <PetePorty> Hello guys. I'm here because I have a problem... (Again.) The thing is, my computer is extremely slow; and it didn't use to be like this; it used to be pretty fast actually. It takes several (20+) minutes to open a new tab on a light-weight browser, and two minutes to make the terminal usable. My CPU usage is never over 20%, and my memory is at 12.1%. The hard drive is only 5% full, so I really have no idea what could be making my computer so
[18:40] <PetePorty> slow. Any ideas about what's causing it, or ways to fix it? (I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, rebooted several times, my RAM is 2GiB, disk space 300Gb, my processor is Intel Core 2 Duo, and my video card is nVIDIA GForce 9500 with the latest drivers installed.
[18:40] <Frenk> Hey, can anyone helm me to manage the following: I want my PC to connect to the Internet via a VPN Server. I have OpenVPN already on my laptop - what do I have to do on the server?
[18:40] <PoohBah> I have been away from Linux for several years. To do a dual boot install, do I need to repartition my drive or does the install process take care of this now?
[18:41] <Abinadi> Malkavian_: try here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/elib/1.0-11.1
 what does it say when u run top?
[18:41] <JSong> hi
[18:41] <PetePorty> PoohBah: It asks you during the install how you're going to manage the partitions, and you can edit it from there.
[18:41] <JSong> I am trying ot upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 LTS.. I am told I need to first upfgrade to 9.10
[18:41] <PoohBah> So will teh current installer repartition the disk?
[18:42] <JSong> What is the command to get me to 9.10 when I am in 8.04?
[18:42] <PoohBah> Or must i do that outside of the install process?
[18:42] <juk> !upgrade | JSong
[18:42] <PetePorty> top - 15:41:52 up 43 min,  2 users,  load average: 2.38, 2.37, 2.24
[18:42] <PetePorty> Tasks: 146 total,   3 running, 143 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[18:42] <PetePorty> Cpu(s):  4.1%us,  0.5%sy,  0.0%ni, 47.0%id, 47.8%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.5%si,  0.0%st
[18:42] <PetePorty> Mem:   2057016k total,   642208k used,  1414808k free,    66056k buffers
[18:42] <PetePorty> Swap:  6142972k total,        0k used,  6142972k free,   320840k cached
[18:42] <FloodBot3> PetePorty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 why not do a fresh install
[18:42] <JSong> juk: will this get me from 8.04 to 9.10?
[18:42] <Abinadi> PoohBah: the installer will create partitions for you or offer to format the whole disk
[18:42] <genii-around> Thats a pretty high load average
[18:43] <PoohBah> So it will shrink a NTFS partition to make room for the install?
[18:43] <PoohBah> Wubi will do this?
[18:43] <replicasex> I know the unity 2d is experimental and all, and it's not done anything to mess my system up, I just wish I could play around with a version of Unity before 11.04 comes out.  I actually really like it.
[18:43] <JSong> Will !upgrade .. upgrade my 8.04 to 9.10? or try to go firect to 10.04LTS?
[18:43] <Malkavian_> Abinadi: eglibc is the embedded glib, I need the sources for the "normal" glibc
[18:43] <PetePorty> PoohBah: You can do it during the install.
[18:44] <juk> JSong: no, first to 9.10
[18:44] <PetePorty> PoohBah: Oh, you mean Wubi...
[18:44] <Abinadi> PoohBah: yes it will, but if you're using windows I would be absulutely certain that you have defragged your disk and then use the diskmanagement tool there to grow or shrink your drive partitions BEFORE you do the Maverick install
[18:44] <JSong> juk: when i type !upgrade it does nothing saying event not found
[18:44] <PoohBah> on a couple year old dell vostro laptop should i install the netbook version or the desktop?
[18:44] <juk> JSong: why would it?
[18:44] <Abinadi> Malkavian_: sorry then.  I searched and could only find what I pasted in here for you
[18:45] <JSong> juk: so do I type !upgrade on the command line?
[18:45] <PetePorty> So... Anyone has any idea as to why I would be getting severe slowdowns?
[18:45] <Abinadi> PoohBah: I am using a hP dv7 notebook and I installed the desktop version with out a hitch
[18:45] <JSong> juk: I have not done an upgrade of os before
[18:45] <Rob> any developers here?
[18:46] <pp7> yea y?
[18:46] <replicasex> So nobody has any thoughts on why unity2d wouldn't run on my system even though it runs fine on a VM?
[18:46] <Rob> i need someone who has the potential to program a custom variation
[18:46] <juk> JSong: hit alt+f2, type update-manager -c
[18:46] <Rob> of ubuntu*
[18:46] <Rob> not neccessarily one person, but rather a team
[18:47] <pp7> and how much are you paying?
[18:47] <pp7> :)
[18:47] <thangavel> hello guys..i recently installed g++ on my system..but when i compile i get the following error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/568861/....plz somebody help me to get it resolved...
[18:47] <Prasoon> i want some one who can help me in installing Oracle 10g on Ubuntu 10.04.
[18:47] <Rob> depends if my idea is possible
[18:47] <Rob> and affordable
[18:47] <JSong> juk: alt f2? it did nothing for me i am in command prompt and do not have a shell
[18:47] <pp7> what's the idea?
[18:47] <Rob> but its an idea that if done correctly could be worth a lot of money
[18:47] <juk> JSong: ah, then proceed to the second instuction
[18:47] <Arthor> hello, i'm trying to run Wow on my ubuntu 10.10 and I get this http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5903/arthor.0/0_82031_8b450307_orig I'm running both in opengl and directx mode and all the same. Does anybody know any sollution? My videocard is ati hd5770, fglrx is installed.
[18:48] <ubuntu__> Prasoon, have you searched the package database?
[18:48] <Prasoon> http://www.pythian.com/news/13291/installing-oracle-11gr2-enterprise-edition-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[18:48] <Malkavian_> !ubuntu glibc source
[18:48] <JSong> juk: which is?
[18:48] <Abinadi> PoohBah: I meant if you are doing a dueal install with windows.  Use the window partitioning tool to grow or shrink your partititions.
[18:48] <juk> JSong: type update-manager -c
[18:48] <Prasoon> ubuntu_ : is it help ful..I am trying it with oracle universal installer
[18:49] <thangavel_> hello guys..i recently installed g++ on my system..but when i compile i get the following error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/568861/....plz somebody help me to get it resolved...
[18:49] <JSong> juk: that is not installed
[18:49] <droidftw> i have a question about the untiy interface
[18:49] <droidftw> how do i acces my hard drive like i do on the gnome interfce
[18:49] <droidftw> interface
[18:50] <droidftw> !unity
[18:50] <juk> JSong: then pretty screwed aren't you :)
[18:50] <Rob> any professional developers here?
[18:50] <thangavel_> hello guys..i recently installed g++ on my system..but when i compile i get the following error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/568861/....plz somebody help me to get it resolved...
[18:50] <genii-around> !info libc6-dev > Malkavian_
[18:50] <JSong> So there is no way to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 frjust using command line prompt?
[18:50] <danyR_> droidftw, they're listed on the lower part of the launcher. it's a workarond for now, a proper implementation was being talked about, IIRC
[18:50] <Ceno3x> hi guys, is there a package with the source code for the kernel? I need to patch and recompile, I'm running 10.04 with linux 2.6.32-29
[18:50] <tuzlo> is there anyway to hook up a iphone to Ubuntu?
[18:51] <thangavel_> hello guys..i recently installed g++ on my system..but when i compile i get the following error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/568861/....plz somebody help me to get it resolved...
[18:51] <jrm_> thangavel,  add std:: just before cout
[18:51] <PetePorty> So... Anyone has any idea as to what to do with the slowness other than "reinstalling the OS"?
[18:51] <Ceno3x> thangavel_: the paste is no longer there, the link is broken
[18:51] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: depends on the slowness I guess
[18:51] <Prasoon> ubuntu_: "postgresql-8.3-orafce:
[18:51] <Prasoon>  Depends: postgresql-8.3  but it is not installable" is the o/p on package manager
 i've already tried that...but that says cout is not a memeber od std
[18:52] <juk> JSong: apt-get dist-upgrade has?
 i would reinstall
[18:52] <jrm_> thangavel_,  you have to add using namespace std just before you declaration
[18:52] <JSong> juk: is that the command to upgrade from command prompt?
[18:52] <PetePorty> pp7: For real? I'm so tired of setting everything up again...
[18:52] <juk> JSong: yes
[18:53] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: that's not how you normaly do things in linux. What's slow on your system?
[18:53] <ruan> i just updated.. and my shutdown icon was replaced with... my username?
[18:53] <juk> JSong: i forgot update-manger is gui
 : let me try that now..
[18:53] <jrm_> ok
[18:53] <jrm_> to resume : using namespace std, and std::
[18:53] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Clicking a link makes my whole computer stop working for 20 minutes.
[18:53] <JSong> juk: ok so it installed taht.  now what do I do?
[18:53] <danyR_> Prasoon, check http://mediakey.dk/~cc/ubuntu-howto-install-oracle/
 was it always like that?
[18:54] <juk> JSong: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:54] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: And it's not only internet, I mean, everything takes forever.
[18:54] <Abinadi> PetePorty: that has somiething to do with your browser I would think...
[18:54] <JSong> juk: upgrade or update?
[18:54] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: Do you know if it's I/0 or CPU?
[18:54] <PetePorty> pp7: No, it's beel 4 days likes this.
[18:54] <exitweb> !ubuntu
[18:54] <juk> JSong: whole line, write to the paper
[18:55] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: I'm kind of a noob, and I don't know what I/0 means...
[18:55] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: But my CPU usage is always under 20%.
[18:56] <datacrusher> input  / output
[18:56] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: Do this. Add to your gnome panel the System Monitor. Do you know how to do that?
[18:56] <PetePorty> Oh..
[18:56] <JSong> juk: i did that and it hit a bunch of packages but it did not upgrade anything
[18:56] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: I have the monitor open.
[18:56] <juk> JSong: pastebin has?
[18:57] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Ok, added to panel.
[18:57] <itaylor57> ruan: I have the same situation
[18:57] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: Not the same thing, this is a little trick for you to monitor what's happening on your machine
[18:57] <JSong> juk: ?
[18:57] <juk> !pastebin
[18:57] <Rob> im looking for developers who have an interest in console gaming
[18:57] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: ok, now right click, preferences. in the processor tab, change the color of IOWait to red, in Monitored Sources activate Memory
[18:57] <ruan> itaylor57: i added a shutdown button to panel, thats about all i could do
[18:58] <stianhj> Is there a fix for Intel wifi cards in 10.10 yet? There was a problem with 802.11n networks..
[18:58] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: So now you should have 2 squares in the panel, one with a blue graph, one with a green graph
[18:59] <tuzlo> is there anyway to hook up a iphone to Ubuntu?
[18:59] <danyR_> tuzlo, what kind of integration are you looking for?
[18:59] <tuzlo> probably just moving files from the server to the phone, mostly audio
[19:00] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: One has a really small blue one and a red one with hugee spikes; the other one has 2 constant lines, one teal and one green. Teal is 1/3 of the whole square, while blue is 1/6.
[19:00] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: Ok good one. The blue line is your CPU usage. The red one is IO, meaning mostly disk access. The green is your memory usage
[19:01] <danyR_> tuzlo, install libimobiledevice (libimobiledevice.org , they've updated packages in a PPA) and then Banshee
[19:01] <danyR_> in my experience, iOS 4.2.1 w/ 3GS works just fine for music
[19:01] <danyR_> (and I can browse filesystem trough nautilus)
[19:01] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Ok, red just went crazy and is using all the sqare.
[19:01] <tuzlo> ok, I have a 3Gs
[19:01] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: So you have huge red spikes? That means huge spikes of disk activity, that's why your system is slow. Try doing something and see how the red line behaves, if red is high, the system is waiting for the disk and hence it stops
[19:02] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: Right, so something (a program, or maybe several) is using the disk like crazy and making your system freeze.
[19:03] <brunn> hey
[19:03] <danyR_> tuzlo, do you need further guidance on installing libimobiledevice/banshee?
[19:03] <thrain][> I would like to see a list of packages available for update. How would I do that with apt (from the command line)?
[19:03] <tuzlo> danyR_, is this packaged?
[19:03] <brunn> can somewone help me
[19:04] <brunn> i have problem
[19:04] <brunn> installing wine
[19:04] <Fluttershy> what's your problem, exactly?
[19:04] <stianhj> thrain][, sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[19:04] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: can you run free in a terminal and see if any swap is being used? You can also tell this by looking at the green graph but you said you were a noob so...
[19:04] <brunn> i have estobuntu
[19:04] <alex_k> i need help with the login screen
[19:04] <ruan> yes, sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:04] <tuzlo> seems its already installed
[19:04] <brunn> i try that
[19:05] <alex_k> whenever i log in from sleep mode, i have to enter my password twice
[19:05] <tuzlo> but it wont mount the device
[19:05] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Well, all I'm running is Quassel, the system monitor and a terminal with top; although once in the past I had problems with the alternative to compiz (I think it's called metacity or something?)
[19:05] <thrain][> Ah, I see. Thanks both of you
[19:05] <stianhj> alex_k, me too! started happening recently
[19:05] <Fluttershy> brunn: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install wine'?
[19:05] <brunn> yes
[19:05] <alex_k> stianhj: do you know how to fix it?
[19:05] <ruan> tried a reinstall of wine?
[19:05] <brunn> that tells me ..
[19:05] <Fluttershy> brunn: what happens when you try it?
[19:05] <brunn> sec
[19:05] <danyR_> tuzlo, please mention me, it's too much noise here.
[19:06] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: turn off system monitor, that's a disgraceful cpu hog. What's Quassel? Can you tell me the swap thing or do you need more guidance?
[19:06] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Total 6142972 Used 0
[19:06] <stianhj> alex_k, have no idea. probably a recent update that broke something? which version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:06] <ruan> lol, used 0
[19:06] <tuzlo> yeah, gonna have to put this on hold have to go get my daughter, thanks danyR_ I will loook you up in an hour or so
[19:06] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Quassel is the IRC client I use.
[19:06] <Fluttershy> Ceno3x: IRC client...
[19:06] <alex_k> stianhj: 10.04 lts
[19:06] <amiltner> heyo
[19:06] <brunn> he show me like i want to install older wine
[19:07] <stianhj> alek_k, same here. i have 10.04 LTS on my work machine, where it happens.. on my home machine i have 10.10, where it doesn't happen
[19:07] <brunn> but i have 1.13.3
[19:07] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: hm, so no swap, barelly any programs running, huge I/o spikes.  something's up. indeed
[19:07] <Fluttershy> brunn: so you have an older version of wine installed and you're trying to install a newer version?
[19:07] <stianhj> Ceno3x, have you tried iotop? like top but for IO
[19:08] <Ceno3x> stianhj: yeah, that's what I was gonna say, iotop is a bit shit, but maybe in this case it can help
[19:08] <JSong> I am getting this error. does it mean the packages are not available?  http://s2plmirror01.prod.sdl2.secureserver.net/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[19:08] <JSong> 404 Not Found
[19:08] <stianhj> Ceno3x, yeah, you'll be able to see if something is really wrong i guess
[19:08] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: Can you install iotop and run it? "sudo apt-get install iotop", and then run "iotop"
[19:08] <brunn> flutter just a sec i go to another cpu
[19:08] <stianhj> JSong, that mirror might be missing that package, yes
[19:09] <stianhj> JSong, or rather the package list
[19:09] <JSong> stianhj: so how can i then upgrade the OS from 8.04 to 9.10?
[19:09] <stianhj> Is there a fix for Intel wifi cards in 10.10 yet? There was a problem with 802.11n networks..
[19:09] <stianhj> JSong, find a different mirror
[19:09] <stianhj> JSong, 8.04 is pretty old now.. why not do a clean install of 10.10?
[19:09] <erUSUL> stianhj: try newer drivers « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-$(lsb_release -cs)-generic »
[19:10] <JSong> stianhj: this command ran it automatically:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:10] <JSong> stianhj: it is a dedicated hosted server and i do not have access to physical cd rom... also I cannot go to 10.04 directly
[19:10] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Ok.
[19:10] <stianhj> erUSUL, thanks.. have 10.04 on my work machine, so don't want to mess with it too much (can i install that driver while on a livecd/usb)?
[19:10] <JSong> stianhj: must ggo to 9.10 first then from there to 10.04
[19:11] <aguitel> how to open .docx document ?
[19:11] <stianhj> JSong, you can use a USB stick to upgrade instead of a CD
[19:11] <dmradford> hello, so, I'm having trouble getting VirtualBox working.... I'm getting "Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root." .... that package is installed, but when I try running modprobe vboxdrv as root, it says it cant find vboxdrv.... any thoughts?
[19:11] <Prajjwal> aguitel: Seriously?
[19:11] <JSong> stianhj: i do not have physical access to the server it is in AZ and I am in PA
[19:11] <Odaym> i know this is completely offtopic, and i've posted it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:11] <stianhj> dmradford, how did you install VirtualBox?
[19:11] <JSong> stianhj: so I have to do this over the network
[19:12] <Odaym> but do any of you guys know a website where i can host for free?
[19:12] <stianhj> dmradford, if you didn't.. use the .deb file from the virtualbox site
[19:12] <Prajjwal> JSong: Umm, so theres absolutely no way you can upgrade?
[19:12] <Odaym> or does my UbuntuOne account allow me to host a page there where it can be accessed from outside?
[19:12] <stianhj> JSong, can you VNC to it? you can change the mirror from GUI
[19:13] <dmradford> stianhj, I didn't, I used sudo apt-get install.... I'll try it with the .deb file.
[19:13] <JSong> stianhj: how do i install vnc?
[19:13] <Prajjwal> Odaym: Host what for free?
[19:13] <stianhj> JSong, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[19:14] <Odaym> just one page
[19:14] <Odaym> but i want to be able to choose my domain as well
[19:14] <Odaym> these services can't be for free, haha
[19:15] <stianhj> JSong, and then you can change the mirror in the Software Sources tool (System > Administration > Software Sources)
[19:16] <erUSUL> stianhj: you can
[19:16] <stianhj> erUSUL, thanks
[19:16] <Jezzz> my system has frozen 3 times today
[19:17] <Jezzz> not sure what is going on
[19:17] <Jezzz> < - noob
[19:17] <Jezzz> are there logs where I can see what is locking up my box?
[19:18] <eXpLoD> i have a folder named * on ~,how can i delete it through the CLI?rm -rf ~/* will delete everything on ~/,i want to delete only the folder *
[19:18] <Ceno3x> Jezzz: you can use the system monitor gnome panel applet to see if it's I/O or cpu to begin with, does that seem useful?
[19:18] <ruan> theres system > administration > log file viewer, that may or may not help
[19:18] <alienkid10> if you install software in a ubuntu live session then install ubuntu will it install your software
[19:19] <alienkid10> that you installed in live?
[19:19] <ruan> i think so
[19:19] <Jezzz> Ceno3x, I have system monitor open. Not sure what I'm looking for.
[19:19] <alienkid10> what if I added new repos or uninstalled some stuff?
[19:19] <Jezzz> ruan,  there are lots of log files here.  Should I look in a particular one?
[19:20] <wasabi1> Howdy. What's the latest most preferred way to do IPSEC on Ubuntu. I'd really like something that could use Kerberos with IKEv2.
[19:20] <Ceno3x> Jezzz: I said the gnome applet, I use it to monitor my system. My point is that when your system locks up, it's a different thing if it's blocking on IO or blocking on high CPU usagef
[19:20] <ruan> Jezzz: well, the filenames should help
[19:21] <JSong> stianhj: it says to set release-upgrades to lts inside the doc. if I set it to "normal" will it then try other servers?
[19:21] <Jezzz> Ceno3x, sorry.  I don't know what the gnome applet is.
[19:21] <alienkid10> if I added a new repo to sources.lst and uninstalled some software in a live session will the new repo be in the install when I install from live and will it not install what I removed?
[19:22] <Ceno3x> Jezzz: lol you had bad timing, I just explained this not 10minutes ago to some other guy
[19:22] <stianhj> JSong, it chooses a server close to you when you install.. i don't think it changes location of the mirror (i might be wrong though)..
[19:22] <Jezzz> :/
[19:22] <stianhj> JSong, you can probaly just manually edit the sources.list file
[19:23] <thunkee> any hint to get connected to my default wlan ap after boot/login ... manually it works without probs?
[19:23] <JSong> where would i ifind that and what other s2plmirror site list can be found?
[19:23] <stianhj> JSong, check out /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:23] <stianhj> JSong, maybe
[19:24] <blag> im trying to build the ubuntu maverick kernel from git, but it keeps telling me to run "make mrproper", which blows out the debian/ directory, which means the command "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel fails.  how do I build a .deb file of the ubuntu kernel by just using make?
[19:24] <JSong> stianhj: i found it.. now how do i find the source directorys?
[19:25] <Browser> Hi
[19:25] <Browser> x)
[19:25] <stianhj> JSong, you mean list of other mirrors?
[19:26] <JSong> stianhj: yes for 9.10 version
[19:26] <JSong> stianhj: or just mirrors in general i guess
[19:26] <eXpLoD> how can i fix my broken flash plugin?tinychat looks weird i can't even do spacebars in it
[19:27] <stianhj> JSong, why not use the standard ubuntu one
[19:28] <JSong> stianhj: well the one that cames with it gave me an erro stating the packages were not found and error 4040
[19:28] <lewq> Hi everyone, anyone know how to disabled the 'G' band on my wifi?
[19:28] <lewq> Ubuntu 10.10
[19:28] <JuJuBee> Is it possible that a file can inherit the perms and user/group of the enclosing folder?
[19:28] <lewq> And yes, I have read "man iwconfig"
[19:28] <eXpLoD> why nobody ever asks my question?i've been constantly asking this today and i still haven't gotten a reply
[19:29] <stianhj> JSong, no the standard ubuntu one. archive.ubuntu.com/
[19:29] <stianhj> JSong, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[19:29] <stianhj> eXpLoD, what version of ubuntu, browser, etc?
[19:30] <Abinadi> can someone tell me why this applet it not showing up in any of my menus when I use: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lorenzo-carbonell/atarea?
[19:30] <ikonia> Abinadi: it's not an applet
[19:30] <eXpLoD> ubuntu 10.10,chromium,what do you ,mean by etc?
[19:30] <ikonia> Abinadi: it's adding a repo
[19:30] <ikonia> eXpLoD: what is the problem
[19:30] <Abinadi> ikonia, ok...so I have to go install it from my repository now?
[19:31] <stianhj> eXpLoD, how is your flash plugin broken?
[19:31] <ikonia> Abinadi: you've added a repo, you can now install software from that repo
[19:31] <eXpLoD> tinychat shows weird,if i wanna do a blank character(spacebar)it just scrolls the page down
[19:31] <PetePorty> eXpLoD: Did you try uninstlling flash and installing it again?
[19:31] <ikonia> Abinadi: be aware it is not supported here though
[19:32] <Abinadi> ikonia, yeah, I know that.  Thanks. ;)
[19:32] <malex> I maintain a Ubuntu package archive for an upstream project. recently some of the archive users started mentioning that their package manager complains that the repository server does not use changelogs. Since I don't run Ubuntu I am not sure where to find the relevant docs.
[19:32] <PetePorty> exalt: Are you sure you have the input tag seelected?
[19:33] <PetePorty> Oops...
[19:33] <PetePorty> HLed the wrong person...
[19:33] <PetePorty> Because the other one left. :P
[19:33] <Jezzz> system log viewer is not helpful
[19:33] <stianhj> malex, i don't know it this is of any help at all but: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:34] <Jezzz> ruan, looked through the logs.  I don't see any errors.
[19:35] <Jezzz> i guess I'll worry about it if it happens again
[19:35] <muneeb_> does apt-cache depends resolves dependencies recursively?
[19:35] <JSong> stianhj: that mirror worled.. you are awesome!
[19:35] <Jezzz> is the person who helped me with ZoneMinder yesterday here?
[19:37] <wolfrage> Any one know where wendar stays on IRC or the url to the blog for wendar
[19:38] <muneeb_> does apt-cache depends resolves dependencies recursively?
[19:38] <DJones> wolfrage: You could just send wendar a private message, /msg wendar Your text
[19:38] <wolfrage> DJones: ahh good point...
[19:38] <Abinadi> ikonia, if you're still here. could you tell me how to find this repository?  I'm searching all over the place and the package manager doesn't show  "lorenzo-carbonell/atarea" anywhere
[19:38] <DJones> !ppa | Abinadi
[19:38] <wolfrage> damn empathy... it does not support /msg
[19:39] <DJones> Abinadi: That looks like a ppa, have a look at the link ubottu gave and you should be able to find it
[19:39] <Abinadi> DJones, thanks
[19:40] <malex> stianhj: thanks, I've seen that. The question is how the '/changelogs' is generated
[19:40] <ymonir>  any body can tell me how to install new Icons/
[19:40] <DJones> w 13
[19:42] <xangua> ymonir: gnome-look.org , drag the themes to the appearance window
[19:42] <pareli> any tips on how i can remove the network notification that pops up on desktop?
[19:43] <ymonir> xangua : yes i did the same and some of theme has been installed - and still tells me  ( this theme will not look as intended because the required icons are not installed )
[19:43] <Gulfstream> my internet gets really slow every now and then. How can I fix this? (using a Belkin F5D8053 N USB card and Ubuntu 9.10, the driver for the card is installed)
[19:43] <JyZyXEL> how do you change the default DHCP client?
[19:44] <Abinadi> DJones, I looked at the link provided and that only tells me how to build a ppa (other than searching for the ones that already listed
[19:44] <JetBoyJetGirl> on the vim tutor it says that when positioning the cursor over a bar ( like this---> |bar| ) and pressing CTRL- you should jump to that section of the help file however whenever I do this it only shrinks the terminal window.... any ideas why this might be?
[19:45] <Lantizia> Hey I've got some videos, most are 700x480 but some slightly differing heights of 696 or 704, etc... except for that they're encoded identically.  All play fine on a windows box... but the ones with 700 height on totem (or vlc) look distorted like their going diagonally... so since vlc doesn't use gstreamer like totem does... i figure the issue is further back... any ideas where or how to debug this?
[19:45] <trism> pareli: in gconf-editor, possibly /apps/nm-applet/disable-connected-notifications, disable-disconnected-notifications
[19:45] <arand> JetBoyJetGirl: Gnome-Terminal steals the keyboard shortcut?
[19:45] <Gulfstream> my internet gets really slow every now and then. How can I fix this? (using a Belkin F5D8053 N USB card and Ubuntu 9.10, the driver for the card is installed)
[19:46] <trism> JetBoyJetGirl: the command is Ctrl [ not ctrl -
[19:46] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: usb card? that sounds bad.
[19:46] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: is it adsl or what?
[19:46] <Gulfstream> Chousuke: it is a USB wireless adapter
[19:46] <JetBoyJetGirl> ahh lol, thanks trism
[19:46] <Abinadi> Gulfstream, I had the same problems but it had nothing to do with my card.  I had to tweak firefox a bit to speed things up
[19:46] <Gulfstream> it is supposed to be high speed internet
[19:47] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: well wireless is wireless. checked the signal?
[19:47] <Gulfstream> Abinadi: it is system-wide, not just firefox.
[19:47] <JetBoyJetGirl> thanks for the help guys
[19:47] <stianhj> Lantizia, isn't this more of a video codec question than an ubuntu question?
[19:47] <Gulfstream> Chousuke: The signal is anywhere from full to 1 bar (slowest on 1 bar), but I never move the computer.
[19:47] <Lantizia> stianhj, no because vlc uses libvlc and totem uses gstreamer... so I don't think it's a codec issue... possibly a video issue maybe?
[19:47] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: also, is the driver for that thing a binary blob? :P
[19:48] <feanorii> gs: which part of your network conn gets slow?
[19:48] <montezuma> hi@all
[19:48] <Gulfstream> Chousuke: the driver was installed in some weird way... I think it was a binary blob
[19:48] <montezuma> i have a problem with Cairo-dock
[19:48] <stianhj> Lantizia, that's what I meant.. that it's an issue with the video file (the encoding of said file) perhaps
[19:48] <montezuma> http://gbimg.org/p.php?q=q5cw8
[19:48] <ymonir> when i a theme- it installing - but still tells me  ( this theme will not look as intended because the required icons are not installed )  any help ?
[19:48] <montezuma> look at hte comment
[19:48] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: [jhb2/sda1-8] And Quassel are the 2 things that range from 0% to 99.9%. Quassel is my IRC client, but I have no idea what the other thing might be...
[19:48] <Lantizia> stianhj, no because I have already stated the files work fine on a windows box
[19:48] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: hm, then your best bet probably would be to buy some working hardware. the most likely explanation is that the adapter just sucks.
[19:48] <Starminn> Is there a reason flash is so laggy in Firefox? I've been using Firefox for everything except for Flash which I switch to Chrome for. I know it's not my system because Flash==good in Chrome, and I'm pretty sure it's not Firefox because I don't hear many complaints about it, but does anybody have any ideas? I know it runs slower in Linux than Windows (I used Firefox for Flash in Windows) because Linux isn't an Adobe priority, but still
[19:49] <stianhj> ymonir, find the icon pack that's used in the theme.. it shoud say where you downloaded the theme (and in appearances -> custom) i think
[19:49] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: you're still there? I thought you'd left
[19:49] <montezuma> main-dock is right on right side sub dock is wrong there (left) should be righz
[19:49] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: It just finished installing... As I said, I lag a lot. :P
[19:49] <Gulfstream> Chousuke: it worked well on Windows, and it worked when I had the CD for it to work on ndiswrapper. and maybe it might have worked better on 10.04, but I am on 9.10 now.
[19:49] <montezuma> any one having an idea?
[19:49] <stianhj> Starminn, i think chrome runs it's own version of flash (check the versions?)
[19:49] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Also, I did timeout once, but I have it on auto rejoin.
[19:50] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: I guess the driver for it is crap then
[19:50] <Coffeholikas> http://developer.ubuntu.com/create/qt/  could anyone translate word "soon"?
[19:50] <PetePorty> ^_^
[19:50] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: that happens with such hardware
[19:50] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: could it be quassel freaking out? you can join us via http://webchat.freenode.net/
[19:50] <Gulfstream> Chousuke: I guess so then...
[19:51] <Starminn> stianhj: How might I go about that?
[19:51] <montezuma> sub dock is there, if main dock would be left (Mainscreen)
[19:51] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: I use that when I go on liveCD, but quassel has a ton of stuff that makes it much, much better.
[19:51] <PetePorty> Ceno3x: Also, I fear my HDD might be screwed... :(
[19:51] <Chousuke> Gulfstream: you might be able to find the windows drivers on the internet and setup ndiswrapper again, if it really works better.
[19:51] <stianhj> Starminn, start a video in youtube, right-click -> about flash plugin
[19:52] <MIH1406> Hi, which connection type is faster? HTTP or FTP?
[19:52] <Chousuke> MIH1406: shouldn't matter, but I'd prefer http
[19:52] <Ceno3x> PetePorty: I'm not saying stop using Quassel, I was saying stop using it for a moment and see if it's causing the problems. It might be the HDD also
[19:52] <MIH1406> I am uploading large files. (I know this is not the right place) But I only use IRC to chat abou Ubuntu
[19:52] <stianhj> MIH1406, yeah, shouldn't matter
[19:53] <Chousuke> hmm for uploading http is a bit weird
[19:53] <stianhj> MIH1406, if you're uploading large files, FTP would be easier
[19:53] <Chousuke> but honestly you shouldn't use ftp either
[19:53] <Chousuke> use sftp (ssh) or something
[19:53] <Starminn> stianhj: Yes, Chrome appears to use a newer version of Flash than Firefox. Any way to manually update Firefox's or is it best to just wait it out?
[19:53] <numberto> I cannot open code.google.com  and m.gmail.com   (all other sites are opening)
[19:53] <MIH1406> sftp?
[19:53] <MIH1406> is it faster
[19:53] <Gulfstream> Chousuke: it isn't *terrible*, I just have to reboot when it disconnects... it feels a lot like how Maverick did
[19:53] <MIH1406> ? or you mean safer?
[19:53] <xangua> Starminn: sudo apt-get update , to check if there is a new version aviable
[19:53] <Chousuke> MIH1406: ssh should be safer at least
[19:54] <stianhj> Starminn, the flash version firefox uses is the one in the ubuntu repositories.. so you could probably find a ppa with the new beta version or something. or manually change them
[19:54] <montezuma> any ideas about my cairo problem?
[19:54] <numberto> Plus I can check my email (gmail) with curl from terminal, but my browser just gives could not connect to server
[19:54] <Chousuke> MIH1406: and ftp won't really be any faster with modern computers.
[19:54] <MIH1406> I am uploading to Hotfile.com
[19:54] <RandomCake_> Hi, I've just installed the NVidia graphics drivers for a Geforce310M chip (i5 processor, so there is an intel graphics chip), but ubuntu refuses to boot with the Nvidia driver enabled in xorg.conf
[19:54] <stianhj> MIH1406, your internet connection is what affects your speed not, ftp vs http
[19:54] <RandomCake_> what can I do? :(
[19:55] <stianhj> Random832, can you run the nvidia-xconfig tool?
[19:55] <stianhj> RandomCake_, can you run the nvidia-xconfig tool?
[19:55] <daveluke> how can i completely remove python and reinstall?
[19:55] <PeterPorty> Ceno3x: Ok, closed Quassel... Now this and the [jbd2/sda1-8] thing are using up the 100%
[19:55] <daveluke> according to the people in #python, i royally f'd my python
[19:55] <Starminn> xangua: Now is there a way to upgrade it after having updated the available software? sudo apt-get upgrade I assume?
[19:55] <RandomCake_> yeah, after logging out and in or rebooting i'm in the same place
[19:55] <PeterPorty> Ceno3x: So that would make it my HDD, right? :(
[19:56] <Starminn> stianhj: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. :)
[19:56] <Ceno3x> PeterPorty: that jbd2 thing...... I've seen it before man, but I can't remember what it is
[19:56] <dimmortal> MIH1406: I am uploading to Hotfile.com <<< do you really think this is the right place to be asking this stuff.. why hotfile... why not use torrent??
[19:56] <stianhj> Starminn, you can find newer versions of the libflashplugin.so file (which is the plugin itself) and put it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (overwriting the other one) or in .mozilla/plugins (which i think is the correct way of doing it)
[19:56] <Ceno3x> PeterPorty: If I were in your shoes, I'd google jbd, see what comes up, then run an HDD test
[19:57] <RandomCake_> stianhj: after commenting out the 'nvidia' device I'm able to start x again
[19:57] <stianhj> Starminn, /home/username/.mozilla/plugins that is.. something like that
[19:57] <radoslaw> radoslaw-marudazk
[19:57] <gohan4748> hey masterofmonks
[19:57] <MIH1406> dimmortal, I am very sorry
[19:57] <FlexGuy> ls
[19:57] <stianhj> RandomCake_, when you are able to start X.. can you run the nvidia-xconfig tool from terminal
[19:57] <MIH1406> but this is my only IRC room
[19:57] <PeterPorty> Ceno3x: Ok, I'll google it, and then bug you about how to do a HDD test. =D
[19:57] <MIH1406> channel
[19:58] <gohan4748> hey masterofmonks can i ask u someting
[19:58] <RandomCake_> yes, stianhj, and then when I restart X again it doesn't work
[19:58] <dimmortal> MIH1406: pm
[19:58] <tf2ftw> gohan4748, you need to get super saiyan first
[19:58] <Starminn> stianhj: Using that method will it still auto-update (once it reaches the repos) or will that be up to me since I'd be overwriting the automatically provided one?
[19:58] <extra11> hi friends
[19:58] <stianhj> RandomCake_, is it one of those that automatically switches from intel to nvidia?
[19:58] <PI_314> hi
[19:58] <Abinadi> whoever it was asking about chrome vs firefox...I just installed chrome and it wasn't any faster than firefox at all
[19:59] <PI_314> is there a service which send an email when specified software has updates? don't want to check various websites of self compiled applications every two days to stay up to date!?!
[19:59] <gohan4748> #fun
[19:59] <stianhj> Starminn, i _think_ if you put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins, it'll use that one.. but when the repos update, you can just remove that file, and it'll use the /usr/lib one which ubuntu installs
[19:59] <tf2ftw> PI_314, there are web site monitoring services
[19:59] <PI_314> tf2ftw, do you have an example?
[20:00] <Starminn> Abinadi: Flash support. It is noticably faster on my system and I could take a video or something if you like. :) I promise you, though, that for ME, anyway, that is the case. I understand it is not a universal occurence though.
[20:00] <tf2ftw> PI_314, changedetection.com
[20:00] <Starminn> stianhj: Alright, thanks man.
[20:00] <PI_314> thx
[20:00] <stianhj> PI_314, why not find PPAs for those apps instead? you could sign up for mailing lists, etc for the projects perhaps?
[20:01] <daveluke> how can i fix python? i have hardy heron can i just upgrade/
[20:01] <tf2ftw> daveluke, whats wrong with it?
[20:01] <stianhj> daveluke, you shuold upgrade regardless of python
[20:01] <daveluke> tf2ftw, i did a lot of stuff when i tried to install 2.7
[20:01] <daveluke> and i broke it
[20:01] <daveluke> i get python: command not found
[20:01] <RandomCake_> stianhj: I don't believe it's automatic (there is a Performance button that does it)
[20:01] <tf2ftw> try apt-get purge python
[20:02] <stianhj> RandomCake_, what happens when you press the performance button?
[20:02] <Starminn> Oh, another question, guys. Is there any kind of software that will allow me to copy my text messages on my cell phone to my computer? I have an old cell phone which I no longer use and have already Bluetoothed all my pics/media to my computer; now all that's left is the SMS messages.
[20:02] <daveluke> tf2ftw, ok ran purge.. now what?
[20:03] <tf2ftw> try typing python
[20:03] <stianhj> Starminn, http://wammu.eu/
[20:03] <tf2ftw> do you get the shell?
[20:03] <RandomCake_> a blue LED turned on stianhj, lol, I've not seen any change (under windows the screen would have switched off and on as it switched graphics chips)
[20:03] <daveluke> command not found tf2ftw
[20:03] <tf2ftw> ok now install it
[20:03] <Abinadi> Starminn, ok, I believe you, I'm just saying that out of the gate chrome wasn't faster than ff on my system.  But that being said...I haven't tried to load any videos either.  Maybe I should try youtube or something?
[20:03] <tf2ftw> sudo apt-get install python
[20:04] <stianhj> RandomCake_, what computer is it?
[20:04] <daveluke> tf2ftw, done.. still commnd not found though
[20:04] <tf2ftw> hmmm.. your path is mezzed ?
[20:05] <stianhj> RandomCake_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[20:05] <RandomCake_> it's an Acer Aspire 5745G
[20:05] <Starminn> Abinadi: Yeah, lol. Web page loading, Chrome is no faster (in my experience, anyway), and even on YouTube I get the same performance. For Flash-based games though (namely all of the Facebook games I play, i.e. Farmville-style games (though I don't play FarmVille) is where I experience that problem at.
[20:05] <daveluke> tf2ftw, how would i know?
[20:05] <RandomCake_> oh, thanks I'd searched for ages stianhj, but not with the right keywords :)
[20:06] <stianhj> RandomCake_, i have google-fu i guess
[20:06] <Starminn> stianhj: Thanks. You're a god. :)
[20:06] <tf2ftw> daveluke, cd /etc/python
[20:06] <tf2ftw> then ls
[20:06] <tf2ftw> what doyo usee?
[20:06] <daveluke> just debian_config
[20:07] <Abinadi> Starminn, I see....well I don't use any of those FB apps  because I end up getting spammed to death from them.
[20:07] <stianhj> daveluke, sudo updatedb; locate python
[20:07] <rone> Hi folks. I'm trying to run  sudo -s "ls -l /etc/hosts" and I get "/bin/bash: ls -l /etc/hosts: No such file or directory"... any ideas what's going wrong? This error occurs on a 9.04 machine but seems to work correctly on my 10.04 machine.
[20:07] <daveluke> updatedb and locate are not commands
[20:07] <rone> err.. 10.10 machine
[20:08] <stianhj> rone, /etc/hosts is a file
[20:08] <rone> right.. it is
[20:08] <rone> it exists, i verified
[20:08] <stianhj> rone, so cat, not ls
[20:08] <daveluke> ^@tf2ftw
[20:08] <Abinadi> Anywayz....Can someone tell me why I would not see one of the NTFS partitions on my system.  I can see all the others, but the NTFS partitition is one of two that I set up as data partitions.
[20:08] <tf2ftw> daveluke, you dont see /etc/python/python2.6 ? are you sure it installed?
[20:09] <stianhj> rone, ls lists files in a folder.. /etc/hosts is not a folder..
[20:09] <rone> stianhj: Any operation reports the same... I just want  to see permissions here not read it.
[20:09] <daveluke> tf2ftw, just the file (or dir) debian_config
[20:09] <Starminn> Abinadi: I assume it's mounted?
[20:09] <stianhj> rone, ls -l /etc/
[20:09] <rone> stianhj: Not true, try "sudo -s ls -l /etc/hosts"
[20:09] <rone> stianhj: On 10.10 it shows permissions of that explicit file.
[20:09] <tf2ftw> daveluke, oh sorry i mean, /etc/pyton2.6
[20:10] <daveluke> tf2ftw, no but i have python2.5
[20:10] <stianhj> rone, you're right..
[20:10] <rone> stianhj: My belief is there's something funny going on with sudo here..
[20:10] <daveluke> oh
[20:10] <stianhj> rone, i can run ls -l /etc/hosts with no problem
[20:10] <rone> stianhj: Not quite sure what though, given /etc/hosts is a full path.
[20:10] <stianhj> no sudo
[20:10] <daveluke> tf2ftw, i can execute python2.6 in /etc
[20:10] <tf2ftw> daveluke, how about /usr/lib/python
[20:10] <tf2ftw> ?
[20:11] <rone> stianhj: Right I know, the actual thing I'm trying to do is ie sudo -s "echo "foo" >> /etc/hosts"
[20:11] <Abinadi> Starminn, no, I can't see that it's mounted when I type "mounted' in the terminal
[20:11] <Abinadi> Starminn, sorry, I meant "mount"
[20:11] <rone> stianhj: For whatever reason anything run using sudo -s seems to cause the "No such file or directory"
[20:11] <tf2ftw> daveluke, ok so you can get python shell ?
[20:11] <stianhj> rone, why the -s?
[20:11] <tf2ftw> that means your user path is fubared
[20:11] <daveluke> tf2ftw, ok
[20:12] <daveluke> how can i fix it?
[20:12] <rone> stianhj: So my script is ocmpatible with mac osx as well as ubuntu
[20:12] <tf2ftw> easy to fix
[20:12] <rone> stianhj: I have to support both.
[20:12] <tf2ftw> daveluke, one sec
[20:12] <daveluke> ok.. thanks btw tf2ftw
[20:12] <rone> stianhj: I'm wondering if the sudo -s and the new shell are not loading PATH proerly
[20:13] <Starminn> Abinadi:  just do "sudo fdisk -l" then "mount -t ntfs [the/drive] [the/mount/point]
[20:13] <rone> I think i got it.. sudo -s ls
[20:13] <rone> /bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file
[20:13] <rone> definitely weirdness with the new shell
[20:13] <erUSUL> !rootshell
[20:13] <jason> join #ubuntu
[20:14] <tf2ftw> daveluke, do you have any other users on your computer?
[20:14] <zesoze> how can I use gridbaglayout to align checkbox in same column...they are in different columns...
[20:14] <zesoze> ?
[20:14] <tf2ftw> daveluke, if now, add one, sudo useradd tempguy
[20:14] <stianhj> rone, i can do sudo -s ls -l /etc/hosts just fine
[20:14] <pepe> hi all
[20:14] <daveluke> tf2ftw, ok done
[20:14] <rone> stianhj: Yeah I can as well on my 10.10 machine, but some reason on this 9.04 machine it fails. Trying to figure out why.
[20:15] <tf2ftw> daveluke, sudo passwd tempguy
[20:15] <tf2ftw> give him a pws
[20:15] <stianhj> rone, cannot execute binary file /bin/ls seems weird
[20:15] <rone> right?
[20:15] <rone> hah
[20:15] <pepe> is there anyone who know how to set vesa mode?
[20:15] <daveluke> tf2ftw, ok
[20:16] <tf2ftw> daveluke, su tempguy
[20:16] <pepe> ls
[20:16] <tf2ftw> daveluke, cat ~/.profile
[20:17] <tf2ftw> daveluke, cat ~/.profile >> profile.txt
[20:17] <daveluke> tf2ftw, no such file
[20:17] <Abinadi> Starminn, this is what I'm getting:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/568893/ >  I can't tell which of the NTFS partitions is mounted and which one is not....hmmm....I just realized that there should actually be 3 NTFS partitions.  One for windows, and two data drives.
[20:17] <steeff> hello
[20:17] <tf2ftw> daveluke, PM me
[20:17] <jimmy__> I'm unable to boot into windows, whenever I select windows 7 it takes me to a black screen with a white cursor ( _ )
[20:17] <jimmy__> any ideas?
[20:17] <pepe> hello
[20:18] <Abinadi> !ot | jimmy
[20:18] <jimmy__> Abinadi, it is ubuntu related
[20:19] <jimmy__> obviously i wouldn't be in #ubuntu if it wasn't pertaining to ubuntu/grub
[20:19] <Starminn> Abinadi: Looks like there are 3 NTFS's. sdc1, sdc5, and sdd1. You could just mount all of them. :) I certainly don't see why not. Mount one, check it, and keep going till you find out which one you need.
[20:19] <k5egg> jimmy__: I've found it easier to swap hard drives than deal with the stupid bugs that seem to crop up with grub
[20:19] <steeff> Does anyone speak Russian?
[20:20] <Ceno3x> How can I check which kernel source packages are available in the reps?
[20:20] <Starminn> !russian | steeff
[20:20] <jimmy__> k5egg,  i've changed the boot table and nothing will go into windows
[20:20] <jimmy__> i do get the grub screen
[20:20] <jimmy__> but I am never able to boot into windows
[20:20] <Abinadi> Starminn, ok, but, if I do that am I going to doubling up my mount points?
[20:21] <Starminn> Abinadi: http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/133/how-to-mount-and-unmount-a-drive-in-linux/
[20:21] <timewriter> hi
[20:21] <Abinadi> Starminn, Thanks!
[20:22] <Stava> May I use the Ubuntu font family in an image (such as a logotype) and sell that image? :o
[20:22] <Jezzz> anyone have zoneminder experience?
[20:23] <drc> Stava: http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/ubuntu-font-licence-1.0.txt might help
[20:23] <JerrysKid> Has anyone here used MoonOS distro of Ubuntu?
[20:23] <Jezzz> did a fresh install and cannot access the zoneminder page at localhost/zm
[20:23] <Stava> drc thanks
[20:23] <thunkee> jimmy__: a rude way to fix is ... use the windows cd repair (will detect windows) and then use a ubuntu cd and boot ubuntu and try to fix grub
[20:23] <ThinkT510> jimmy__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 check configuring grub
[20:23] <JerrysKid> Has anyone here used MoonOS 4 distro of Ubuntu?  If so... Can you tell me the purpose of it vs. regular Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:24] <jimmy__> thunkee,  i tried that with no success ;/ not going backwards
[20:24] <jimmy__> now* i'm trying it backwards
[20:24] <Stava> drc, well i dont fully understand that text :(
[20:24] <jimmy__> and "sudo update-grub" pulls up the windows 7 partition
[20:24] <jimmy__> but it never boots
[20:25] <JerrysKid> Honestly... could they make grub any more confusing?
[20:25] <jimmy__> grub = pain in the ass
[20:25] <drc> Stava: me neither, but then I don't speak lawyerese...but that's the license they published
[20:25] <thunkee> jimmy__: did the windows cd boot windows? esp is the windows partion still there? ;)
[20:25] <JerrysKid> I have never understood it, and probably never will.
[20:25] <jimmy__> grub = goodroughunlubedbuttsex
[20:26] <jimmy__> thunkee, care for a pm
[20:26] <drc> Stava: Here's one in better English :)  http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/FAQ.html
[20:26] <Stava> drc, thanks
[20:26] <drc> Stava: np
[20:26] <fnuser> anyone familiar with the bad input file size error?
[20:27] <BLKBXX> is there anyone out there that can help with an lamp setup?
[20:27] <jimmy__> thunkee, windows repair cd did see it
[20:27] <BiPolah> BLKBXX: What aspects of it?
[20:28] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX windows or linux?
[20:28] <Homefix> working in a chroot enviroment, i log in as "root" or username "dad",makes no diff, using nautilus... i cannot create files or directories(get readonly) even if i give it chmod -R 777 `/dir or file it wont write however dolphin does.?
[20:28] <cannonfodder> oh wait lmao
[20:28] <cannonfodder> oh wait lmao
[20:28] <JerrysKid> I do get a bit upset when I am starting a fresh install and then after selecting the drive I want to install it on, I am nagged about a swap partition being created...  I'm just like, "WTF" can't you just create the swap partition on your own?  Do you REALLY need me to tell you to do this?  I truly wish a lot of developers could step down to the NEW USERS' mindset and make things slightly easier for them.  This is utlimately why Linux fails.  Not
[20:28] <JerrysKid>  everyone wants to build their OS from scratch...  Some people like flash to work right out of the box considering a majority of the internet requires it...
[20:28] <ThinkT510> !lamp
[20:28] <chang-li> hi, I want to create a 2nd swap and put it on a sd-card.then set it at a higher priorty than the 1st swap.  question what would be the effect if ubuntu booted without finding the sd-card swap?
[20:28] <BLKBXX> i have gotten to the point of setting up mysql  but am having issues now
[20:28] <thunkee> jimmy__: just repair it ... you need an ubuntu cd to get back ubuntu to boot afterwards
[20:28] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX is php and apache working?
[20:28] <JerrysKid> chang-li, What are you hoping to achieve by doing this?
[20:29] <jimmy__> thunkee, i have but it never completes the repair
[20:29] <BLKBXX> how does postgres compare to mysql
[20:29] <stianhj> chang-li, i think it would just run without swap
[20:29] <chang-li> JerrysKid, more room to use apps
[20:29] <BLKBXX> i have php and apache working fine
[20:29] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[20:29] <cannonfodder> do it to php also
[20:29] <JerrysKid> chang-li, How is putting your swap on an external SD card going to help?  The throughput on an SD card is minimal... otherwise everyone would use them for swap...
[20:29] <BLKBXX> just seem to always have issues with mysql on all system no just ubuntu
[20:30] <cannonfodder> sudo /etc/init.d/php5 restart
[20:30] <thunkee> jimmy__: sry ever worked for me
[20:30] <jimmy__> :/
[20:30] <chang-li> the netbook i have , is running a ramzswap0 also, cutting into main ram.
[20:30] <rudy_> hallo
[20:30] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX if that still doesnt work i think theres a module you need to install into php so it can work with mysql
[20:30] <JerrysKid> chang-li, I would probably disable swap entirely and just get a large amount of ram.  This would drastically change performance and benchmarks (depending on what it is that you're doing... naturally).
[20:30] <Guest69931> i have a problem
[20:31] <cannonfodder> also, if you just installed eveything, just restart apache and php as i have mentioned
[20:31] <JerrysKid> Guest69931, What is your problem?
[20:31] <Guest69931> well, i am new
[20:31] <JerrysKid> Guest69931, Ask your question, and quit being new.
[20:31] <JerrysKid> :)
[20:31] <chang-li> JerrysKid, i am limited as to 2gb ram in this netbook. + small partion. dual win-ubuntu
[20:31] <Guest69931> and i want to connect to the console of my powerconnect 5224 switch
[20:32] <Guest69931> i use ubuntu
[20:32] <Guest69931> and i use putty
[20:32] <JerrysKid> chang-li, What apps are you running on a netbook that utilizes 2GB?
[20:32] <Ceno3x> I'm looking for a package with kernel 2.6.32-2 . How can I find out if exists in the repos?
[20:32] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX did that work?
[20:32] <BLKBXX> restart didnt seem to help
[20:32] <chang-li> JerrysKid, I will be using sleuthkit.
[20:32] <JerrysKid> chang-li, If you do not have your SD card loaded and it is setup to act as the swap partition, your system will not launch.
[20:32] <Guest69931> and i don;t wat to use gui
[20:32] <POSTrouble> hello room whats up
[20:33] <Xpistos> Hey can anyone tell me how to install "vsound" I am trying to install skype-rec and it says it needs this program, but I can't find it in the repo or in medibuntu?
[20:33] <oneliner> Hello there, how can i list the groups in a box and change a user from one group to another?
[20:33] <stianhj> JerrysKid, yes it will..?
[20:33] <POSTrouble> i need help getting a receipt printer to work in ubuntu 10.10
[20:33] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX what are you doing to check if php and mysql are working?
[20:33] <BLKBXX> the thing is i want to setup a web and mail server on my ubuntu box and have no experience in this king of thing
[20:33] <Starminn> Guest69931" (all on one line please. Makes it easier to follow. :) Thank you.)
[20:33] <chang-li> JerrysKid, sd card would be a 2nd swap, but with a higher priosrity than 1st-swap.
[20:33] <JerrysKid> Guest69931, Can you possibly ask your question in one line?
[20:33] <Guest69931> yess..
[20:33] <Homefix> nautilus gives me cannot copy to ... destination is read only.. however dolphin has no prob creating folders. how to fix nautilus (even if i gksudo nautilus it does not create files or folders)
[20:34] <JerrysKid> chang-li, Your setup is ghetto.  I am not going to help you with this.  Perhaps stianhj can help you as he is obviously correcting what I am saying...
[20:34] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX those are just servers its not difficult if you view them all as small components...first thing though is to get mysql to work...so im going to ask again...what are you doing to test if mysql is working?
[20:34] <POSTrouble> can anyone assist me with a receipt printer for a POS system
[20:34] <JerrysKid> POSTrouble, What the eff is your question?
[20:34] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX also....go into the /var/www and change the index file to index.php and insert <?php phpinfo(); ?> into it
[20:34] <stianhj> JerrysKid, I'm just saying that Ubuntu can start and run fine, without a swap drive (one of my disks died recently, the one with the swap partition on it.. didn't even notice)
[20:34] <Kyle__> JerrysKid: He's talking about a point of sale system I think.
[20:34] <cannonfodder> then navigate to it with 127.0.0.1
[20:34] <chang-li> JerrysKid, thanks, I will give it a wirl and see the benchmarks.
[20:35] <POSTrouble> well how do I install my POS X printer so that it works it keeps coming up as a sewoo mini prt
[20:35] <Guest69931> i have this setup ubuntu netbook {putty} ---> dell poweconnect 5224   but i don;t know any commandlines tot connect to
[20:35] <Guest69931> please help
[20:35] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX   type  "/join #web"
[20:35] <JerrysKid> stianhj, if you fill your ram, and your swap is then unavailable, your system will NOT function.
[20:35] <BLKBXX> well i have gotten to the command of mysql - u root and i get access denied
[20:35] <BLKBXX> warning i am a noob
[20:35] <POSTrouble> when compiling and building the drivers I receieve the errors CUPS headers not available
[20:35] <JerrysKid> So, I have no idea what you're talking about.
[20:35] <JerrysKid> POSTrouble, Do you have CUPS installed?
[20:35] <JerrysKid> POSTrouble, check synaptic package manager for CUPS headers
[20:36] <Kyle__> POSTrouble: you need cups-dev or cups-devel, something like that.
[20:36] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX im also a mysql noob...im just teaching you how to install it
[20:36] <POSTrouble> Jerryskid I just upgraded and installed all my cups headers
[20:36] <JerrysKid> Did you reboot?
[20:36] <Kyle__> POSTrouble: "apt-cache serch cups" will list all of your options.
[20:36] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX  people n #web can help you more than the people in here
[20:36] <Starminn> BLKBXX: the login for MySQL is something more like "mysql -h <hostname> -u <user> -p" it will then prompt for the MySQL user's password.
[20:36] <Kyle__> POSTrouble: out of curiosity, what type of printer is it tha tyou need to compile drivers for?
[20:36] <Abinadi> Starminn, can you check this out:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/568903/
[20:36] <Xpistos> Anyboyd ... know where I can get vsound ?
[20:37] <stianhj> JerrysKid, true, and I agree with that. but that's not what you said.. you said: "If you do not have your SD card loaded and it is setup to act as the swap partition, your system will not launch." that's the part I "corrected"
[20:37] <cannonfodder> Starminn you have to make a user with mysql first right?
[20:37] <POSTrouble> i am rebooting now
[20:37] <cannonfodder> i kind of forgot lol
[20:37] <cannonfodder> been a while;
[20:37] <Guest69931> what are the commands to connect to serial using putty?
[20:37] <azertyu> hello, this is just an example : i got 3 files on /home/user1, each  file respectivaly named file1, file2, file3,and also each file contain the word    linux_one linux_two linux_tree
[20:37] <JerrysKid> stianhj, I stand corrected.
[20:37] <Starminn> cannonfodder: You create one when you install it. The default user is "root"
[20:37] <stianhj> Guest69931, man putty
[20:37] <azertyu> by doing grep -R linux_ /home/user1 it display : linux_one linux_two linux_tree
[20:37] <azertyu> once it grepping, i need a command that just only catch the word without the path and store on specific file how to do ?
[20:37] <oneliner> Hello there, how can i list the groups in a box and change a user from one group to another? sorry for trolling but i think this got lost amid allthe other queries
[20:37] <POSTrouble> Kyle__ i am installing a pos x printer and can emulate it to be a EpsonTM 200 printer
[20:37] <Xpistos> Woops, never mind bad date no good in pulse
[20:38] <cannonfodder> BLKBXX mysql -u root
[20:38] <Starminn> connonfodder, BLXBXX: An example command (perhaps more helpful) would be "mysql -h localhost -u root -p" (then the password prompt_
[20:38] <cannonfodder> then it will ask for your password
[20:38] <ikonia> oneliner: use the user admin gui and swap the users in/out groups
[20:38] <Guest69931> putty is no good?
[20:38] <BLKBXX> i will try that
[20:38] <stianhj> oneliner, listing groups is just groups from the terminal
[20:38] <roadmr> Guest69931: if you want to use a serial cable putty won't help, you might want to try minicom for instance
[20:38] <oneliner> ikonia: forgot to mention, its a remote box accessed via ssh
[20:38] <ghostlines> I'm having a problem booting my system when I boot without an external drive connected, although I specify nobootwait in my fstab. Anyone have any ideas why this happens?
[20:38] <oneliner> stianhj: who would ve though
[20:38] <ikonia> oneliner: use "usermod" then
[20:38] <Starminn> Abinadi: I'm not an expert in mounting/unmounting. Mine was always read fine, so... :) Sorry. It looks like you could try unmounting it first (with "umount" -- no "n")
[20:38] <oneliner> :)
[20:39] <POSTrouble> system is currently rebooting
[20:39] <roadmr> Guest69931: you can use putty to connect via telnet if your switch is already on the network and has an IP address
[20:39] <Kyle__> POSTrouble: Um.  I think that should be built into cups.
[20:39] <xrdodrx> is there a program I can use to make pixel fonts?
[20:39] <mikeb123> ubuntu update wont show, what should i do?
[20:39] <POSTrouble> ok well it looked like the cups wasnt all the way updated but I will search forn it as long as it boots
[20:39] <Abinadi> Starminn, well thanks anyway.  perhaps someone else can tell me what's going on
[20:39] <Guest69931> no ip from dhcp. switch has a static ip (bought secondhand)
[20:39] <JerrysKid> mikeb123, sudo apt-get update
[20:40] <BLKBXX> i had to install root-system-bin
[20:40] <cannonfodder> abinadi
[20:40] <Starminn> Abinadi: Yeah. Sorry I couldn't help more. :)
[20:40] <ikonia> Guest69931: how is this an ubuntu problem ?
[20:40] <cannonfodder> Abinadi i had that problem before
[20:40] <cannonfodder> when i tried to access my ntfs windows partition
[20:40] <roadmr> Guest69931: if you have the serial cable for the switch you can use minicom to connect
[20:40] <cannonfodder> look up "force mounting a volume from terminal"
[20:40] <Abinadi> cannonfodder, so what solved it for you...
[20:40] <cannonfodder> that should help...i remember it was a pain in the ass though to find the command
[20:40] <Kyle__> POSTrouble: I never had a problem using any of the built-in epson emulation.  The IBM emulation could be problematic sometimes (on band printers esp), but most epson emulation has been built into it for ages.
[20:41] <cannonfodder> ALSO ABINADI
[20:41] <Abinadi> ok I'll do that.
[20:41] <cannonfodder> wait
[20:41] <Abinadi> k
[20:41] <Homefix> any direction on the nautilus thing?
[20:41] <POSTrouble> ok
[20:41] <cannonfodder> theres a simple solution...you have a windows partition yes?
[20:41] <mikeb123> still wont show update, im tryin to get the ubuntu 10.10 update and nothings there
[20:41] <POSTrouble> thanx Kyle__ im checking it now
[20:41] <Guest69931> i dont know any minicom commands...
[20:41] <Starminn> cannonfodder: (All on one line please... :) )
[20:41] <Abinadi> cannonfodder, yes.  I have three actually:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/568903/
[20:41] <JerrysKid> mikeb123, sudo apt-get upgrade\
[20:41] <JerrysKid> mikeb123, sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:41] <ikonia> Guest69931: this really isn't anything to do with ubuntu
[20:41] <BLKBXX> how do you get root access in terminal again?
[20:41] <Guest69931> ok, very well
[20:41] <RandomCake_> thanks stianhj, might have found what i need (refer to the card I want to use by PCI BusID), so gonna try and restart now and see what happens! :)
[20:42] <DasEi> BLKBXX: sudo
[20:42] <Starminn> BLKBXX: "sudo <insert command here>"
[20:42] <Estragon> how can I know if my dvd burner is double layer compatible (on ubuntu 10.10) ?
[20:42] <Abinadi> cannonfodder, I can see two of the drives...just not one of the 250GB data drives
[20:42] <mikeb123> @JerrysKid : i did that and it still wont show
[20:42] <stianhj> RandomCake_, let me know how it goes
[20:42] <RandomCake_> will do stianhj
[20:42] <cannonfodder> ABinadi   that problem occurs when windows usually isnt shut down properly...the os doesnt have a chance to mark the volume as unused i think...log on to windows and just shut it down properly...if that dont work then look up force mounting
[20:42] <Guest69931> if this is the way to be treated
[20:42] <stianhj> RandomCake_, i've been considering getting one of those hybrid graphics laptops
[20:42] <openbees> BLKBXX: su
[20:42] <JerrysKid> mikeb123, What is your question?  I am confused as to what it is that you are trying to do.  Try to write more than five words explaining the problem.  The more details, the better.
[20:42] <POSTrouble>  i have removed the sewoo and now i am goin to turn on the printer with the usb installed and tell u what happens
[20:42] <cannonfodder> abinadi this may help    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=669686
[20:42] <Estragon> Website Title: Force Mounting NTFS - Ubuntu Forums
[20:42] <openbees> BLKBXX: if unix password is already set
[20:43] <roadmr> Guest69931: use the manual (man minicom), most keys and commands are documented there, just set the correct comm parameters for your switch and you should be good to go
[20:43] <Guest69931> thanks Roadmr !!
[20:43] <Abinadi> cannonfodder, what do you mean that windows wasn't shut down properly.  I always do a 'shutdown' when I exit.
[20:43] <POSTrouble> it calls it sewoo and asks me to search for drivers
[20:43] <JerrysKid> Guest69931, I missed your question.  Could you repost it, please?
[20:43] <Abinadi> cannonfodder, ok, let me look that up
[20:43] <cannonfodder> Abinadi ya you may be correct; however, it happened to me sometimes even with proper shutdown
[20:43] <xrdodrx> is there any way to make pixel fonts with fontforge
[20:43] <ikonia> JerrysKid: it's not an ubuntu issue, it's not for this chanel
[20:43] <ikonia> channel even
[20:44] <POSTrouble> and now it asks me to select the printer from the database is this the route i should take
[20:44] <JerrysKid> ikonia, I'm not a smug prick, so I don't mind if he asks me...
[20:44] <mikeb123> I am trying to update ubuntu to version 10.10, but the update manager wont show the update even though i know it is available. i tried sudo apt-get update and it didnt work. now what?
[20:44] <cannonfodder> i never did it from terminal though...also...force mounting did solve it for me once...i just had to keep looking for the proper command
[20:44] <JyZyXEL> how do you change the default DHCP client?
[20:44] <openbees> how to send files in flashdrives like windows way
[20:44] <JerrysKid> mikeb123, did you try to just download the CD?
[20:44] <ikonia> JerrysKid: drop the language, and the topic of this channel is ubuntu support
[20:44] <Starminn> JerrysKid: (Family-oriented please)
[20:44] <cannonfodder> and unfortunately i cant recall the website abinadi...but just keep googling force mounting for ubuntu and i think you will find the solution
[20:44] <JerrysKid> whatever
[20:45] <ikonia> JerrysKid: no, not whatever, drop the language and the attitude, please keep to the topic of ubuntu support
[20:45] <ThinkT510> mikeb123: which ubuntu do you have installed?
[20:45] <mikeb123> i dont want to overwrite my data
[20:45] <JerrysKid> mikeb123, What version are you running now?
[20:45] <openbees> how to send files in flashdrives like windows way ,,,,,is how can find send to option.....like one i had in windows
[20:46] <POSTrouble> kyle__ or jerryskid should i be using terminal to install this printer
[20:46] <ikonia> openbees: gnome doesn't work like windows, there may not be a "send to" option, customising the right click menu in gnome is quite tricky
[20:46] <Viking667> Hi there. I've got a weird question here about the recent 10.10 kernel. Whenever I boot up (I've got a Radeon HD3450) and get to the GUI, I have one of the two screens go flicker every ten or fifteen seconds or so.
[20:46] <BLKBXX> how do i unstall and reinstall mysql?
[20:46] <mikeb123> 10.04 LTS
[20:46] <Homefix> need help, can you reccomend a channel for linux technical questions such as: nautilus cannot write to disk however dolphin does? thanks
[20:46] <Viking667> yet if I use the kernel from 10.04, it doesn't flicker.
[20:46] <ikonia> BLKBXX: open the package manager, click remove, then open the package manager and click "install" on the package
[20:46] <JerrysKid> POSTrouble, I am not an expert on this subject.
[20:46] <BLKBXX> cool thank u
[20:46] <Viking667> Homefix: could try ##linux
[20:46] <BLKBXX> should have known the answer would be that simple lol
[20:46] <POSTrouble> ok jerryskid no problem
[20:46] <Homefix> try
[20:46] <ikonia> Homefix: are you using ubuntu ?
[20:47] <Homefix> ikon: yes
[20:47] <openbees> ikonia: how can i costomize right click menu
[20:47] <ikonia> Homefix: just ask the question
[20:47] <ikonia> openbees: it's really not very easy at all, hence why no-one does it
[20:47] <openbees> ikonia: are you kidding with me?
[20:47] <Homefix> nautilus is not able to write to disk dolphin can even with su or sudo or gksudo
[20:47] <ikonia> openbees: no
[20:48] <Kyle__> Is apcupsd configured in /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf in ubuntu?
[20:48] <POSTrouble> any assistance with CUPS server error 'server-error-internal-error'
[20:48] <mikeb123> any ideas from previous post?
[20:48] <mikeb123> i am stuck
[20:48] <gohan4748> hello guys
[20:48] <ikonia> Homefix: 1.) don't use "su" 2.) how are you launching nautlius 2.) how are you launching dolphin, 3.) where are you trying to write a file
[20:48] <ThinkT510> mike123: open up the ubuntu software centre
[20:48] <gohan4748> hey masterofmonks can i ask u someting
[20:48] <Abinadi> cannonfodder, I see, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/New\ Volume -o force which means he is trying to force mount an NTFS partition named ntfs-3g to media/New.  Is that correct?
[20:49] <openbees> ikonia: so the only way to transfer a file is just cut or cupy and then open flashdrive and paste
[20:49] <gohan4748> im a supersaiyen
[20:49] <thunkee> my nautilus does have dend to
[20:49] <daveluke> hi.. the command python2.6 works but the command 'python' gets 'command not found'... how can i fix this?
[20:49] <ikonia> openbees: that is the most simple way yes,
[20:49] <ikonia> thunkee: excellent,
[20:49] <thunkee> or send to
[20:49] <mikeb123> ok opened software center
[20:49] <Homefix> ikon:opening from menu create folder get cannot create folder cannot write to disk
[20:49] <ikonia> Homefix: where are you creating the directory
[20:49] <ThinkT510> mike123: go to edit then software sources
[20:49] <gohan4748> im new what do u guys do in this chat
[20:49] <Homefix> to my desktop
[20:50] <Homefix> or anywere
[20:50] <ikonia> Homefix: ok, what does it say when you try to create a directory on your desktop
[20:50] <Abinadi> !topic | gohan4748
[20:50] <mikeb123> ok opend it
[20:50] <Homefix> dolphin works fine
[20:50] <ikonia> Homefix: no, what does it say when you try in nautlius
[20:50] <Homefix> it says read only
[20:50] <ikonia> Homefix: are you running from a livecd ?
[20:50] <POSTrouble> any assistance with CUPS server error 'server-error-internal-error'
[20:50] <ThinkT510> mike123: then you want to make sure that release upgrade shows normal releases in the update tab
[20:50] <bc81> openbees: i didn't follow your convo, but there is also nautilus-sendto in the repos (just so you know copy+paste isn't the only way)
[20:50] <Homefix> no chroot enviroment
[20:50] <gohan4748> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh u guys help people
[20:51] <Viking667> gohan4748: sssshhhh! Don't tell everyone!
[20:51] <gohan4748> lol
[20:51] <ikonia> Homefix: can you please show me the permissions on the directory of your chrooted desktop directory
[20:51] <Homefix> yes.....
[20:51] <guntbert> gohan4748: this channel is the official support channel for ubuntu - if you just want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:51] <ikonia> Homefix: use the pastebin if you have to
[20:52] <jonthue> hey i just gotten HP deskjet 3050 but i cant find no drivers for it
[20:52] <Jezzz> how do I edit /etc/sysctl.conf?
[20:52] <ikonia> Jezzz: in a text editor
[20:52] <Jezzz> says read only
[20:52] <Abinadi> ok, anyone, I'm trying to see if I have this right "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/New\ Volume -o force"  which means he is trying to force mount an NTFS partition named ntfs-3g to media/New.  Is that correct?
[20:52] <mikeb123> ok. it was set to long term updates. im goin to try this, thanks
[20:52] <Jezzz> ikonia,  how do I elevate the text editor
[20:52] <gohan4748> how do i join u guys gunbert
[20:52] <openbees> bc81: but it is for emails .....my problem is with flashdrive
[20:53] <Jezzz> ikonia, says read only
[20:53] <ikonia> Jezzz: what text editor do you like to use ?
[20:53] <Jezzz> i just double clicked it in ubuntu 10.10
[20:53] <jonthue> are their drivers for hp deskjey 3050
[20:53] <bc81> openbees: it can handle flash drives to, like i said i didn't follow your convo (just joined a few mins ago)
[20:53] <gohan4748> how do i join u guys gunbert
[20:53] <Abinadi> !printers | jonthue
[20:53] <Estragon> Website Title[3]: OpenPrinting | The Linux Foundation
[20:53] <ikonia> Jezzz: from the command line or alt+f2 do "gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf" however if you don't know how to use the text editor I don't think you should be blindly editing sysctl.conf
[20:54] <Jezzz> ikonia, I tried "sudo gconf-editor /etc/sysctl.conf"
[20:54] <guntbert> Jezzz: open a command line and type gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:54] <ikonia> Estragon: please disable that
[20:54] <Jezzz> ikonia, guntbert, thanks.  I'll try that
[20:54] <openbees> bc81: how can i use it
[20:54] <Estragon> ikonia, sorry
[20:54] <guntbert> gohan4748: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:54] <Starminn> johnthue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1649149 people mention "hplip" prehaps working?
[20:54] <bc81> openbees: sudo apt-get install nautilus-sendto.  then you right-click a file and "Send To"
[20:55] <gohan4748> im in the chat gunbert
[20:55] <gohan4748> im in the chat gunbert
[20:55] <Jezzz> ikonia, i'm working with a doc for zoneminder.  It is telling me to add 'kernel.shmall = 134217728' and 'kernel.shmax = 134217728' to the sysctl.conf
[20:55] <Homefix> ikon: sorry babysitting hold on
[20:56] <BLKBXX> i am having issues joining #web anyone else?
[20:56] <zvrk> anyone like to chat about future of operating system please join #LightningUnix
[20:56] <Viking667> BLKBXX: nope.
[20:57] <Abinadi> ok, anyone, I'm trying to see if I have this right "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/New\ Volume -o force"  which means he is trying to force mount an NTFS partition named ntfs-3g to media/New.  Is that correct?
[20:57] <ResQue> SYstem MOnitor is saying that my CPU usage is 100%, but if i look in the processes tab there only three or four applications using a total of about 30%. how can i find out where all resources are being used uo?
[20:57] <Starminn> BLKBXX: Nope, not here either. Make sure it's all lower-case. "/join #web"
[20:57] <drc> BLKBXX: you may need to register your nick
[20:57] <erUSUL> Abinadi: mount to  /media/New\ Volume
[20:58] <Starminn> ResQue: "top" command in Terminal
[20:58] <reedy_> hmm
[20:58] <reedy_> oh
[20:58] <guntbert> zvrk: don't advertise
[20:59] <openbees> bc81: thanks buddy ...it works ...you are the star of this night............
[20:59] <ikonia> bc81: mega find
[20:59] <reedy_> hmm
[20:59] <reedy_> wtf
[20:59] <Homefix> ikon: sorry about that diaperchange drwxrwxrwx 2 root root but i still cant write i get ERROR while copying to Desktop; the destination is read only
[20:59] <bc81> xD i kinda stumbled into your convo :-)
[20:59] <reedy_> convo
[21:00] <ResQue> Starminn, well look at that, haha. thanks a lot mate works like a charm :-D
[21:00] <reedy_> indeed
[21:00] <ikonia> Homefix: can you show me the output of the command "id" please
[21:00] <BLKBXX> i type it in and can not get it to join
[21:00] <BLKBXX> sort of stinks
[21:00] <Starminn> ReQue: Not a problem. :)
[21:00] <Homefix> ikon command id How?
[21:00] <guntbert> reedy_:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:00] <ikonia> reedy_: control the language please
[21:00] <ikonia> Homefix: just type "id" in a termainl and tell me what comes back
[21:00] <MysterX> hello every one
[21:00] <Starminn> BLKBXX As somebody mentioned earlier, you may have to register your nick.
[21:00] <Homefix> k
[21:01] <drc> BLKBXX: try /msg nickserv help register
[21:01] <BLKBXX> that i have not done yet starminn
[21:01] <luite> is there a some place to get a vmlinux type kernel image for 10.04 lts? I need to boot one from a very old xen, which doesn't support bzImage
[21:01] <BLKBXX> to register?
[21:01] <ikonia> BLKBXX: join #freenode and ask for help
[21:01] <reedy_> xchat... and ubuntu installed as os.. this is where i got... from all places in the universe =)
[21:01] <Starminn> BLKBXX: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[21:01] <drc> BLKBXX: ikonia has the better idea
[21:01] <BLKBXX> join #freenode
[21:01] <JerrysKid> Has anyone here ever used the MoonOS 4 distro?  I was wondering if this is a desktop environment or a full blown distro.  My question:  Can I install Ubuntu Desktop and also have MoonOS 4 as a bootable desktop environment to select at the logon screen... much like LXDE or XFCE?
[21:01] <Starminn> BLKBXX: Indeed. Listen to Ikonnia
[21:01] <Homefix> icon:uid=0(root) gid=0(root)
[21:01] <MysterX> can i ask here an ubuntu question.?
[21:01] <ikonia> MysterX: sure
[21:01] <ikonia> JerrysKid: I told you the topic - stick to it
[21:02] <Viking667> it's what we're for.
[21:02] <drc> BLKBXX: /j #freenode  you need the beginning /
[21:02] <BLKBXX> thank you very much
[21:02] <JerrysKid> ikonia, What?
[21:02] <ikonia> Homefix: interesting, ok, from the terminal can you do "mkdir $path_to_your_deskop/test please
[21:02] <Jezzz> ikonia, guntbert, i've made my change and I've run 'sysctl -p' but get 'error: permission denied on key 'kernel.shmall'
[21:02] <MysterX> ive got a mediacenter pc
[21:02] <reedy_> so, xchat gnome and just regular xchat got different settings as default
[21:02] <reedy_> i guess
[21:02] <ikonia> JerrysKid: the topic is ubuntu support, not dual booting moonOS
[21:02] <MysterX> and i installed Ubuntu 10.10 on it
[21:02] <Viking667> Jezzz: are you duing that using "sudo sysctl ..."?
[21:02] <BLKBXX> sorry it has literally been 10 years since i used irc
[21:02] <JerrysKid> ikonia, read my freakin question before you lecture me.
[21:02] <BLKBXX> so i am slow
[21:02] <MysterX> but i got 2 problemens
[21:02] <JerrysKid> Sheesh
[21:02] <Jezzz> Viking667, nope.. that fixed it.. <-- noob
[21:02] <ikonia> JerrysKid: I did
[21:03] <Jezzz> Viking667, thanks
[21:03] <Viking667> MysterX: type it all out on one line.
[21:03] <JerrysKid> I am asking about desktop environments
[21:03] <Abinadi> !ot | JerrysKid
[21:03] <LjL> ikonia: so what part of it is not an ubuntu question?
[21:03] <Starminn> JerrysKid: It is an Operating System. http://moonos.org/ It does not relate to  Ubuntu, though. MoonOS -- the "OS" infers "Operating System." Once more, though, it is not relative to Ubuntu support
[21:03] <Viking667> Jezzz: cool.
[21:03] <LjL> jesus christ
[21:03] <MysterX> the usb wireless keyboard fail now and day's
[21:03] <reedy_> allah
[21:03] <MysterX> so i've check internet
[21:03] <ikonia> LjL: the part that is asking what moonOS is, is it a distro or a desktop, and can ubuntu deal with it
[21:03] <MysterX> and try one solution
[21:03] <Homefix> icon no prob works
[21:03] <MysterX> to edit grub config
[21:03] <drc> BLKBXX: no problem...been there, forgot that, had to ask
[21:03] <Viking667> MysterX: ooops.
[21:03] <MysterX> but then the sound disables
[21:03] <ikonia> Homefix: I have an idea what's going on, but I don't quite understand why properly
[21:03] <LjL> ikonia: if it's a desktop environment, which he certainly has the right to wonder, and in that case if it runs in ubuntu, is an ubuntu question
[21:04] <Starminn> MysterX: Please ask all on one line. Otherwise it becomes nearly impossible to follow your question. Thank you. :)
[21:04] <reedy_> ufo's.. hmm probably not in the same catagory... even thou i believe in those
[21:04] <MysterX> Starminn: i am sorry
[21:04] <ikonia> LjL: if it's a desktop environment sure, he can ask if ubuntu will work with it, but he's asking if anyone's used it and what it is
[21:04] <ikonia> LjL: not here to research other distros
[21:04] <reedy_> still the same to me =)
[21:04] <thethinker> how to adhust screen brightness settings?
[21:04] <JerrysKid> This is probably the most successful and failed IRC support channel I have ever seen.  You have such potential to help people, but instead you... "!cry | ikonia" and don't help anyone.  Instead you debate on relevant subject matter.  It's pathetic, honestly.
[21:04] <Starminn> MysterX: Not a problem. :) It's just a very large channel and you'll likely receive more help if people and more easily follow it. Please try asking again, all on one line. :)
[21:05] <ikonia> JerrysKid: bye then, don't use the channel
[21:05] <Viking667> MysterX: you've stepped out of my realm of expertise. I don't know anything about how to get wireless keyboards running.
[21:05] <ikonia> Homefix: to help me out, is there a reason you're using a chroot ?
[21:05] <Starminn> JerrysKid: Please don't stray from the topic of Ubuntu Support. If you have a problem with him then maybe just ignore him? *shrug* :)
[21:05] <R-Touch> jerryskid: guy, perhaps i can help.
[21:05] <LjL> JerrysKid: FYI, you can voice your concerns in #ubuntu-ops
[21:05] <ikonia> Homefix: there is one part of the puzzle tha tI'm not getting it
[21:05] <R-Touch> jerryskid: what's the problem?
[21:06] <Homefix> icon: nautilu will not let me create a folder anywere
[21:06] <R-Touch> jerryskid: unfortunately, certain linux experts forget that they weren't always experts :)
[21:06] <friendlystranger> hey, anyone here using conky?
[21:06] <ikonia> Homefix: can you boot into the system properly (outside the chroot) and we can try to fix this
[21:06] <JerrysKid> R-Touch, All I was asking is if I could boot the MoonOS 4 desktop environment or do I have to install it on a completely separate partition.  That was my question.  I am presently running 10.10, and did not want to muck up my Ubuntu Desktop 10.10 by experimenting with MoonOS.
[21:06] <Homefix> icon do ya have a sec hold on...................
[21:06] <ikonia> JerrysKid: it's not a desktop environemtn, it's a distro
[21:07] <Starminn> JerrysKid: Again, "It is an Operating System. http://moonos.org/ It does not relate to  Ubuntu, though. MoonOS -- the "OS" infers "Operating System." Once more, though, it is not relative to Ubuntu support"
[21:07] <R-Touch> jerryskid: as far as i know, it shouldn't be a problem to install other environments with the default one
[21:07] <Homefix> icon look here this is what i am doing yes i put it together.......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932754
[21:07] <thethinker> how do I change brightness settings for my laptop in ubuntu
[21:07] <reedy_> so, why cant linux or any breed like ubuntu handle 3d as good as microsofts os's ?
[21:07] <MysterX> i've an mediacenter (motherboard: Asus M3n78-VM) and the usb wireless mouse/keyboard of logitec freezes. I have update my Nvidea drivers to get the Sound over HDMI working. but when i edit de grub settings to get rid of the freezing mouse, sound stops working...
[21:07] <Abinadi> lol jeez louise.
[21:07] <Starminn> JerrysKid: Asking about DE is relative. But further conversation (since it's a different operating system) just shouldn't go here. :) That's all.
[21:08] <JerrysKid> Starminn, MoonOS is built on 10.10 and runs Gnome.  That is why I am confused.
[21:08] <ikonia> JerrysKid: it's a derivative, that's why it's not supported
[21:08] <Homefix> icon my scripts are here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098
[21:09] <thunkee> reedy_: what is good? it's different not less good ... almost every high performance 3d equip is unix
[21:09] <sysop3> ubuntu doesnt run gnome anymore?
[21:09] <erUSUL> reedy_: because graphic chip manufactures invest like 0.0001 % of what they invest in windows drivers in the linux ones
[21:09] <Starminn> JerrysKid: Yes. Many OS's are built on Ubuntu, but are so xtraordinarily different that support for them is beyond the scope of this channel. Take JULinux, for example. It is built on Ubuntu but made to replicate Windows as much as possible. Built on Ubuntu? Yes. Support for it here? No.
[21:09] <JerrysKid> Starminn, ikonia, I do not know the difference between "derivatives" "distros" "environments" etc.  Perhaps this is why I am so haphazardly  offending your chat etiquette.
[21:09] <ikonia> Homefix: I'm not asking for scripts, I'd like you to reboot into your desktop without using a chroot
[21:09] <MysterX> hmm to difficult? :P
[21:09] <ikonia> JerrysKid: ok, a desktop environemt (gnome for example or kde) is the desktop that runs on any distro, follow so far ?
[21:10] <Abinadi> can anyone tell me how to use something other than pastebin to upload (similarly) a screenshot?
[21:10] <ikonia> JerrysKid: eg: ubuntu packages up gnome/kde/xfce etc etc ?
[21:10] <Starminn> Abinadi: Photobucket or something similar?
[21:10] <Homefix> Icon:cantcause it is an arm image: look here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932754
[21:10] <Abinadi> Starminn, good idea, thanks
[21:11] <ikonia> JerrysKid: follow so far ?
[21:11] <JerrysKid> Yes
[21:11] <ikonia> JerrysKid: ok a derivatiave is a distribution (fully Linux distro) that's based on anotherone (in this example) ubuntu, it's a full blown os with it's own packages/configs/etc
[21:11] <wiw> looking for a music player as *powerful* as fb2k was for windows. any suggestions?
[21:11] <Starminn> Abinadi: Sure thing. Most people I see upload them to their websites (same here) but Photobucket, etc. IS just as well. Preferably to the actual image and not a profile page with image. :)
[21:11] <erUSUL> !player | wiw
[21:11] <DasEi> wiw: mplayer and vlc are fine
[21:12] <JerrysKid> ok
[21:12] <Viking667> I like Mplayer, but it doesn't play absolutely everything - i.e. chiptunes.
[21:12] <meLon> I've left my computer on for the past two nights and when waking up in the morning, I've noticed it's still on, but the screen is BLACK and it wont respond.  I have to force it to shut down.  Are there any logs that I can look at that might show me what's these gremlins are doing at night?
[21:12] <DasEi> wiw: vlc is nice because it brings own, most common codecs with itself
[21:12] <Viking667> I'd love to see a mplayer module to handle .sid, nsf and all sorts of stuff
[21:12] <Viking667> meLon: /var/log/messages
[21:13] <wiw> erUSUL: thanks, i already tried a whole bunch. i'm not looking for as many players as possible, i was hoping for a human recommendation based on my needs (not codecs)
[21:13] <meLon> thanks Viking667
[21:13] <Homefix> icon: i cant "boot" it is on my andriod phone using htc kernel using an arm image
[21:13] <Viking667> wiw: I use mplayer and some other player I can't remember the name of.
[21:13] <erUSUL> wiw: how can i (or anyone else ) know your needs? you have to try them and see
[21:13] <Starminn> wiw: I use Banshee as my preference.
[21:13] <ikonia> Homefix:  you're using ubuntu on your phone ?
[21:13] <ikonia> Homefix: or trying to ?
[21:14] <Homefix> yes
[21:14] <Starminn> wiw: Indeed. There is no "best" thus the large amount of listed players. As they said, try and see. :)
[21:14] <meLon> Viking667, Is there an easy way to tell when the system is STARTING/SHUTTING DOWN?
[21:14] <Homefix> done deal look herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932754
[21:14] <Viking667> can't remember.
[21:14] <ikonia> Homefix: ok, I'm not supporting that platform (personally) due to lack of experience
[21:15] <Abinadi> ok, I'm on to another question.....I need to know how to make nautilus load at startup.  I can see startup in System>>Preferences>>Startup Applications, but I cannot tell how to load nautilus at startup
[21:15] <Homefix> any were i could go another channel?
[21:15] <ikonia> Homefix: no idea, there are plenty on freenode, not sure of an ubuntu-on-htc-platform one though
[21:15] <erUSUL> Abinadi: nautilus already start on startup. half the desktop features are provided by nautilus
[21:16] <MysterX> i've an mediacenter (motherboard: Asus M3n78-VM) and the usb wireless mouse/keyboard of logitec freezes. I have update my Nvidea drivers to get the Sound over HDMI working. but when i edit de grub settings to get rid of the freezing mouse, sound stops working...
[21:16] <Starminn> Homefix: type "/list" in IRC and just see what you can find. Sorry I don't know of any suggestions either.
[21:16] <Homefix> thanks
[21:16] <Abinadi> erUSUL, ok, thanks, I knew that...but what Im talking about is a nautilus window that shows my mounted drives (much like when you launch windows explorer)
[21:17] <erUSUL> Abinadi: Places>Computer
[21:17] <Starminn> Abinadi: Is /media what you're looking for?
[21:17] <Starminn> Abinadi: Yeah, that too ^ :)
[21:17] <genii-around> Homefix: You might want to try #xda-devs
[21:17] <guntbert> Homefix: don't try /list on this network (it is too big), you can ask alis to search for you (try /msg alis help)
[21:17] <drc> Homefix: by my count there are 6 channels that list htc, try #htc-lunix first would be my guess
[21:18] <wiw> i never said best, i simply said i need a powerful player. that includes customizability and features (preferably in modular components)
[21:19] <Starminn> wiw: Try them all and see. When you find one that you really like use that one. All have different pros and cons, and you're really the only one who's able to judge for you. Most of them are very customizable anyway.
[21:19] <klcs> I have a bunch of header files that I want gcc to find. LD_LIBRARY_PATH seems to be empty. Is there another way to specify where to look? Ubuntu 9.04
[21:19] <Abinadi> Starminn, erUSUL, yes I can see places>>computer, and I know where /media is (from the command line at least), but what I want is for a window (call it nautilus, computer or whatever it is in ubuntu) to open up at startup.
[21:19] <Abinadi> Am I making sense?
[21:19] <wiw> Starminn: can you give me an example of a customizable one? i've tried a few and none of them seemed to be at all customizable
[21:20] <gbear14275> My trash and home folder icons have disappeared off the desktop... can someone tell me how to get them to reappear?  Is it as simple as creating symlinks or?
[21:20] <erUSUL> Abinadi: System>>Preferences>>Startup Applications and add « nautilus /media/ » ?
[21:20] <Jezzz> so I edited my sysctl.conf and now I get " GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" on boot
[21:20] <Starminn> Abinadi: Navigate to "/media" in Nautilus. So go all the way down to root then media. In Terminal you can type "nautilus /media" and get the same effect. Regarding opening up at startup follow what erUSL just said
[21:21] <Jezzz> how can I undo my edit to sysctl.conf
[21:21] <erUSUL> gbear14275: alt + f2 gconf-editor go to apps>nautilus>desktop tick the apropiate checkboxes
[21:21] <Starminn> Abinadi: Note that Places>Computer is pretty much the same as /media
[21:21] <brontosaurusrex> gbear14275: i would use the unnoficial 'ubuntu tweak', i'am sure there is more official way thought
[21:21] <DasEi> Jezzz: edit as root
[21:21] <thunkee> MysterX: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1338700.html may help
[21:21] <Abinadi> Starminn, I can see that.  thanks,
[21:21] <Jezzz> DasEi: can't boot the system to do that.  All i get is that error on startup
[21:21] <Starminn> wiw: Try and see, man. I wouldn't know because I don't customize mine a lot.
[21:22] <DasEi> Jezzz: then chroot from a live cd
[21:22] <DasEi> !chroot
[21:22] <Starminn> wiw: And I misspoke a bit. I should have said, "Most of them *seem* very customizable." Sorry for tha.
[21:22] <Odaym> i'm at the partitioning menu now, and i have an empty partition that i want to install Ubuntu on
[21:22] <Jezzz> DasEi: is there a "safe mode" for ubuntu that will let me ....
[21:22] <Jezzz> DasEi: ok... booting livecd now
[21:22] <Odaym> i enter it "change", and i say "ext3 journaling system"?
[21:22] <DasEi> Jezzz: can try: press ctrl once grub starts
[21:22] <DasEi> left one
[21:23] <Jezzz> DasEi: what is grub?
[21:23] <Starminn> Odaym: Using default Ubuntu installer it will mount root on an ext4 partition.
[21:23] <DasEi> grub is the bootloader
[21:23] <Jezzz> k.
[21:23] <Odaym> ext4
[21:23] <Starminn> Odaym: YOu'll also need a "swap" partition.
[21:23] <Odaym> ok
[21:23] <Odaym> and mount on /
[21:23] <Starminn> Odaym: Yes, mount on "/"
[21:23] <Odaym> yea i know that i need swap, how do i do that?
[21:23] <DasEi> Jezzz: but from a live cd you can also easily edit a file on hd
[21:24] <Starminn> Odaym: Create another partition (Ubuntu makes it 2GB by default on mine I believe) and just tell it it's a swap partition.
[21:24] <Jezzz> DasEi: ok... i'll continue to load the livecd
[21:24] <Jezzz> DasEi: I assume that's the "try ubuntu" button on the install disc?
[21:24] <Odaym> how do i create..
[21:24] <Odaym> at the menu
[21:24] <DasEi> Jezzz: yupp
[21:24] <Jezzz> kthx
[21:25] <MysterX> thanks thunkee
[21:25] <Starminn> Odaym: It's been a while and I'm not there. Try "Add..." perhaps?
[21:25] <Ub3r-N00b> anyone with IT & legal experience around ?
[21:26] <oneliner> is there some sort of "flush" i have to apply to directories after changing groups? 755 still does not allow a user through ftp to write to a folder assigned to its group
[21:26] <nexeh> I'm looking for suggestions on how to get started developing for ubuntu. Wouldnt mind contributing to ubuntu, or opensource projects for ubuntu, and starting a new project for something its missing... anyone ahve any suggestions on where to get started?
[21:26] <Starminn> Ub3r-N00b: Ask your question and see who answers. :)
[21:26] <Odaym> darn it
[21:26] <Odaym> hmm
[21:26] <guntbert> !ot | Ub3r-N00b
[21:26] <jo-erlend> there used to be an application in GNOME that let you pick a color from anything on screen and copy the hex value to the clipboard. Can someone tell me the name of that?
[21:26] <DasEi> nexeh: any programming laguages ?
[21:26] <xangua> jo-erlend: color chooser, or something like that
[21:26] <Ub3r-N00b> Starminn 10x
[21:27] <thethinker> In the gnome art program, there is a catagory for "Login Manager Themes" WHere do I find the program for it?
[21:27] <nexeh> dasEi: I'm not picky but im mainly a Java guy... but i can pick them up as needed
[21:27] <jo-erlend> xangua, color chooser displays a color map to choose from, doesn't it? That's not what I want. I'd like to get the color from the desktop wallpaper or something like that.
[21:27] <guntbert> jo-erlend: try gcolor2
[21:27] <DasEi> nexeh: there is a channel of ubuntu-developers, but good knowledge of c++, python or such will be required
[21:28] <Ub3r-N00b> guys im looking for GOOD literature on Cyber Warfare from legal point of view, existing arguments from adacemics, possible legislation on the matter etc
[21:28] <xangua> thethinker: the nwy gdm doesn't support them
[21:28] <Starminn> jo-erlend: http://www.cognitivecombine.com/2008/04/gnome-panel-colour-finally-easy-as-pie/ try that?
[21:28] <Starminn> Ub3r-N00b: Follow guntbert's earlier suggestion by asking in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:28] <nexeh> BasEi: Ok great, I'll check it out. I have worked in C++ a few times
[21:28] <gohan4748> #fun
[21:28] <thethinker> xangua: is there any work around?
[21:29] <jo-erlend> Starminn, that looks like something to choose colors for your desktop or something? That's not what I want at all.
[21:29] <Ub3r-N00b> guntbert, Starminn thanks
[21:29] <Viking667> I'm having a lot of trouble with firefox. Every time I start it up, it's in offline mode, and I can't find out how to turn that off.
[21:30] <nexeh> DasEi: that channel is empty.. i think i had the same problem in the past.. i also signed up for the mentor program and never head from anyone :/
[21:30] <Starminn> jo-erlend: Ah, yes. You're right.  I didn't read it very well. Yeah, try what guntbert said. gcolor2 -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gcolor2
[21:30] <thethinker> Viking667: are you sure your computer is connected 2 internet?
[21:30] <DasEi> nexeh: for such questions #ubuntu-offtopic is a good place, and else forward to #ubuntu-devel
[21:30] <jo-erlend> guntbert, that works. Thanks. :)
[21:31] <MysterX> hmm its a common issue with that mobo
[21:31] <guntbert> jo-erlend: you're welcome :-)
[21:31] <BLKBXX> i am going to guess the computer he is running irc is the computer with the issue correct Viking?
[21:31] <oneliner> how can i know if a user has write permissions for a given dir?
[21:31] <Viking667> yup
[21:31] <Viking667> brb
[21:31] <DasEi> nexeh: meet in ubuntu-offtopic ?
[21:31] <nexeh> sure
[21:32] <jrib> oneliner: 2 ways: check the directories permissions or try to write as the user and find out!  But why do you want to know?
[21:32] <gohan4748> they banned me fom the channel
[21:33] <LjL> gohan4748: well next time don't spam and that won't happen
[21:33] <gohan4748> my computer was messing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:33] <__nick> sera a tutti!
[21:33] <ikonia> gohan4748: please don't start in here
[21:34] <gohan4748> start wat
[21:34] <oneliner> jrib, i got a user accesing the box via ftp, its in the same group as the owner of the dir and the dir is set to 755 yet i cant write to it from the ftp client
[21:34] <DasEi> nexeh: can't join there ?
[21:34] <__nick> ho un macbook 6.1 uno e vorrei installare ubuntu, una guida specifica?
[21:34] <DasEi> nexeh: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:34] <jrib> oneliner: might depend on your ftpd's settings
[21:34] <Starminn> !es | __nick
[21:34] <ikonia> gohan4748: what's the problem with your computer ?
[21:35] <mbeierl> !support | gohan4748:
[21:35] <oneliner> vsftpd
[21:35] <__nick> sorry
[21:35] <erUSUL> oneliner: [[ -w dir ]] && echo "it is writtableby me"
[21:35] <Starminn> __nick: No problem. :)
[21:35] <jrib> oneliner: what do you mean by "its in the same group as the owner of the dir"?  What is "it"?
[21:35] <drc> Viking667: check File> Work offline, is that checked?
[21:35] <xangua> that's italian Starminn
[21:35] <__nick> I have a macbook 6.1 and i want instal ubuntu, a tutorial pls :) ?
[21:35] <oneliner> erUSUL: i am not logged as the user
[21:35] <drc> Viking667: in Firefox, that is
[21:35] <oneliner> the user connecting from ftp client
[21:35] <jrib> !mac | __nick
[21:35] <ikonia> __nick: do you want to dual boot with macos ?
[21:35] <Viking667> It is. But it's ALWAYS checked
[21:36] <gohan4748> my enter key was stuck now i got to wiat
[21:36] <snoflake> __nick, respect to you
[21:36] <Starminn> xangua: My mistake.
[21:36] <Viking667> sorry, had to answer the door
[21:36] <gohan4748> my enter key was stuck now i got to wait
[21:36] <__nick> sure dual boot :)
[21:36] <drc> Viking667: check File> Work offline in Firefox, is that checked?
[21:36] <warlok> hello
[21:36] <ikonia> __nick: jrib just sent a better URL than I was going to offer
[21:36] <__nick> but I dont want use boot camp or parallel, or something like that
[21:36] <warlok> am Rassia
[21:37] <Viking667> drc: already checked that. Turned it off, shut down firefox, start up firefox, it's checked again.
[21:37] <jrib> oneliner: well 755 doesn't give group write permissions anyway
[21:37] <oneliner> oh?
[21:37] <R-Touch> out of curiosity, if a person with a mac installs ubuntu on their system, why did they buy a friggin mac in the first place?
[21:37] <R-Touch> just get a cheap pc
[21:37] <oneliner> whats the correct chmod?
[21:37] <ikonia> __nick: you'll need to use something like that to dual boot properly
[21:38] <drc> Viking667:  ok, it's almost assuredly a Firefox problem, I'd ask in @firefox
[21:38] <jrib> !permissions | oneliner
[21:38] <thunkee> R-Touch: solid hw?
[21:38] <R-Touch> mac has solid hardware?
[21:38] <R-Touch> lol
[21:38] <R-Touch> that's funny
[21:38] <ikonia> R-Touch: not really
[21:38] <R-Touch> they use the same garbage everyone else uses
[21:38] <drc> Viking667: er...#firefox
[21:38] <R-Touch> if you want solid hardware, get an entry-level sony
[21:38] <xangua> !ot > R-Touch
[21:38] <erUSUL> oneliner: sudo -u user sh 'test -w dir  && echo "it is writtable"'
[21:39] <erUSUL> oneliner: ?
[21:39] <brontosaurusrex> R-Touch: they are quiet and they have plugs in places where one doesnt have to crawl on the nees...
[21:39] <brontosaurusrex> *knees
[21:39] <R-Touch> yeah, i suppose
[21:39] <R-Touch> thanks for the pm btw, i joined that channel too
[21:39] <__nick> no boot camp pls :(
[21:40] <Viking667> drc: well, I came here because it doesn't happen anywhere else... i.e. on Windows, it never happens. On Mandriva, it never happens.
[21:40] <oneliner> erUSUL: i ll try that as soon as am done reading bout permissions
[21:40] <Viking667> It only ever happens with firefox on Ubuntu.
[21:40] <Blue_Wolf> hello, some one know easypeasy?
[21:40] <drc> Viking667: I'd say its in your firefox config somehow, maybe not saving your settings when you close
[21:41] <Viking667> but why isnt it saving it? I haven't diddled with my user
[21:41] <swazzy> I am going to be learning c++, What is the best  in your opinion IDE  for me
[21:41] <__nick> ok, I create manually the partition, without boot camp :)
[21:41] <thunkee> Viking667: firefox turns off if it cant resolve hostnames (dns) for example ... check proxy settings firewalls etc
[21:41] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | swazzy
[21:42] <erUSUL> !ide | swazzy
[21:42] <Viking667> thunkee: hm... could you explain that further?
[21:42] <atoi> So this is a shot in the dark, but we've recently seen apache2 on our Ubuntu Lucid servers hit like ... a huge amount of CPU usage over time to the point where our servers go to like... you know 9 load average and I have to restart them. I'm not seeing any tell-tale signs in the logs. My guess is that a code change we've done has produced this (we're running Django/Python through mod_wsgi in embedded mode.) But has anyone heard any rumors of
[21:42] <atoi> this happening with the 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.4 apache2 package?
[21:42] <drc> Viking667: dunno, but I'd try #firefox and if they say it's a ubuntu issue, then come back here (unless anyone else here has an idea)
[21:42] <Homefix> drc:there "mean over there at htc-linux
[21:42] <Viking667> i.e. I've got a about:config setting-  network.dns.ipv4OnlyDomains   that's not set to anything.
[21:42] <duli> I was installing apache2 it was working. Now I get a "Fail to connect to server".  I already did the sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start. Any help?
[21:42] <Homefix> or stuck up
[21:42] <drc> Homefix: what?
[21:42] <__nick> because I try more time t install ubuntu but it doesn't work!
[21:42] <oneliner> jrib, i missetyped, its currently 775
[21:43] <Viking667> Anyhow, I'll try at #firefox
[21:43] <Viking667> oh, and it's 3.6.13
[21:43] <__nick> when I reboot the ubuntu os, my pc show more error! why?
[21:44] <debzf> Hi everyone, I'm trying to set up an ALC 8867 Audio card. Has anyone had any luck getting it to work? I'm using maverick
[21:44] <oneliner> what should i look for in the vsftpd.conf file ?
[21:45] <Skutarth> Can anybody give me some information on Ubuntu and fakeRAIDs?
[21:45] <debzf> Sorry, ALC 887 Audio card
[21:45] <swazzy> is eclipse good too?
[21:45] <Homefix> can ubuntu connect with windows,(share) without samba but with hamachi (i no its a long shot and dont say go to hamachi and ask please)
[21:46] <xxiao> it appears ubuntu 10.04 can't mount my sd card reader automatically
[21:46] <xxiao> do I need set up the permission somewhere? or create a udev rules?
[21:46] <__nick> pls :(
[21:46] <xxiao> in the past it's automatically mounted
[21:46] <__nick> help me!
[21:46] <ikonia> __nick: what's up
[21:46] <tobier> __nick: just shouting for help is not the way to go..
[21:47] <Starminn> swazzy: I've used Eclipse and it was pretty good, yeah. I always end up using a Windows program through WINE (bad I know but I like it too much) and Eclipse is always my go-to app when my usual one stops working.
[21:47] <xxiao> the card reader is detected, but gnome popped up saying 'can not mount'
[21:47] <ikonia> tobier: please don't give out bad advice, you've been warned about that
[21:47] <__nick> to go where?
[21:47] <ohsix> Homefix: hamachi doesn't share files, it can let you communicate with the network members, but you still need to use something else to share files
[21:47] <niknakpadywak> !raid
[21:47] <xxiao> and i have to manually mount them instead
[21:47] <tobier> ikonia: I have? when?
[21:47] <ikonia> tobier: my apologies, I miss-read that
[21:47] <ikonia> __nick: what's actually the issue
[21:47] <Skutarth> I've read the article about FakeRaid
[21:47] <abuusaamah> hey guys, I'm new to this, in a nutshell, what exactly does this client do
[21:47] <Skutarth> I'm here because it doesn't specifically address my issue
[21:47] <Viking667> #firefox is dead quiet
[21:47] <Homefix> i cant figure it out, if upstart doesnt work in a chroot how am i able to connect with windows
[21:48] <__nick> ubuntu doesn't work!
[21:48] <ikonia> __nick: ok, in what way
[21:48] <swazzy> ok
[21:48] <ikonia> Homefix: is this still the HTC platform ?
[21:48] <Homefix> not in a chroot it is a service
[21:48] <Starminn> abuusaamah: IRC? Try just Googling around for "IRC" or go type in "/join #freenode" and ask there.
[21:48] <drc> Viking667: must be nap time there
[21:48] <swazzy> at least you honest but i can't stand ms anymore
[21:49] <Homefix> yes but they yelled at me over at htc
[21:49] <tobier> ikonia: alright, cool. I was confused there for a while :S
[21:49] <ikonia> tobier: my mistake,
[21:49] <Homefix> its ubuntu
[21:49] <ikonia> Homefix: what hardware platform (exactly what phone) are you running it on
[21:49] <tobier> __nick: what errors do you get, if any?
[21:49] <Homefix> htc evo noone is doing it yet
[21:49] <Starminn> swazzy: It's in no relation to Microsoft but that's beside the point :) Anyway, yes, Eclipse is quite powerful and I quite enjoy it. Believe it or not though Gedit is also an extraordinarily capable platform for developing as well, so if nothing else works try gedit and its numerous plugins
[21:50] <ikonia> Homefix: give me a minute to check it out
[21:50] <Homefix> im telling you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098
[21:50] <Homefix> and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932754
[21:50] <__nick> I follow the tutorial in every step, but at the finish the screen show: I/O error... number...number...
[21:50] <Skutarth> Starminn: Winners write code in vi.
[21:51] <tobier> __nick: what tutorial? for installing Ubuntu?
[21:51] <swazzy> ok thanks starminn
[21:51] <__nick> yes, sure
[21:51] <__nick> the link who sent me
[21:51] <Starminn> Skutarth, swazzy: Everybody has their favorite. :) vi, vim, and emacs seem to be the most common for "proffessionals" but again, it depends on personal preference.
[21:51] <Homefix> ubuntu-arm is usually go but they want to talk about natty dev now
[21:51] <tobier> __nick: sorry, I just attached my screen, I have no idea of the history, I just saw your cry for help :P
[21:52] <ikonia> Homefix: have you tried in #ubuntu-arm channel ?
[21:52] <tobier> __nick: have you installed ubuntu and now it doesn't boot?
[21:52] <Homefix> beat ya to it look at my post
[21:52] <__nick> yes not boot
[21:52] <__nick> :(
[21:53] <Homefix> i think i will annoy them further thnks
[21:53] <debzf> Having sound problems. Anyone knows something about ALC887?
[21:53] <Starminn> !details | debzf
[21:53] <Skutarth> Starminn: Really? I was joking. Who in their right mind would use a terminal text editor for writing code?
[21:53] <Starminn> Skutarth: :) Anyway, moving back to the topic of the channel, haha
[21:53] <__nick> because when installation is finished, cd eject but pc doesnt reboot
[21:53] <g_> hi, is the notification thing supposed to queue notices? i only have one displayed at a time, even when i trigger more than one
[21:53] <__nick> pc=macbook
[21:53] <drc> Viking667: try <renaming> your .mozilla folder and start firefox (just to see)
[21:54] <Starminn> g_: The notification box on the top right of the desktop?
[21:54] <Viking667> did that. Same issue once I close out firefox and restart it.
[21:54] <g_> Starminn: yeah
[21:54] <debzf> I have a problem with my soundcard. I'm running ubuntu meerkat. When I run aplay -l I get the following output: **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[21:54] <debzf> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC887 Analog [ALC887 Analog]
[21:54] <swazzy> yea im learning so i just want something  easy use
[21:54] <debzf>   Subdevices: 1/1
[21:54] <debzf>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[21:54] <FloodBot3> debzf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <tobier> __nick: could you show me the tutorial you're reffering to?
[21:54] <__nick> sure wait pls :)
[21:54] <g_> Starminn: i only see one box ever, not more than one, like it's supposed to, right?
[21:54] <OY1R> we (oy6fra) now have a magnetometer online >  http://www.fra.fo/Aurora_watch.html
[21:54] <Starminn> g_: I'll show you what it does. May I private message you to send you like 5 messages real quick so you can see how it works (to avoid spamming this channel)?
[21:55] <OY1R> sorry wrong chan.
[21:55] <g_> Starminn: you mean notify-send foo hello ?
[21:55] <Viking667> OY1R: haha. Could be interesting, nonetheless.
[21:55] <__nick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:55] <g_> Starminn: and yes go for it
[21:55] <tobier> __nick: please higlight me when you speak to me, or else I'll loose you..
[21:55] <oneliner> am at a loss :D
[21:55] <Viking667> __nick: as in, type in his name to begn with.. i.e. tobier:  blah
[21:56] <Starminn> g_: See? IT's one box but it keeps expanding.
[21:56] <g_> no it doesn't
[21:56] <drc> Viking667: was that "did that" directed at my suggestion?
[21:56] <g_> Starminn: i just see one message
[21:56] <Viking667> yup.
[21:56] <guntbert> !tab | __nick
[21:56] <Starminn> g_: What message would that be?
[21:56] <Viking667> drc: yes.
[21:56] <silentz0r> hey, most times I try to boot in ubuntu, the OS gets stuck on the splash screen. Any advice? (I use ATI open source drivers)
[21:56] <g_> Starminn: whatever i send with notify-send
[21:56] <Skutarth> Let me clarify my issue with Ubuntu and fakeRAIDs. I wanted to know two things: 1) If I install Ubuntu to a separate drive from the fakeRAID, what bootloader should I use and on what drive? 2) If I use Wubi to install instead and just install onto the fakeRAID, am I safe from my RAID being corrupted (ie worst case is that Ubuntu becomes unusable and needs to be reinstalled while Windows continues to run normally)?
[21:57] <g_> ie: notify-send boo; notify-send boo2;notify-send boo3
[21:57] <tobier> __nick: what model ID do you have?
[21:57] <drc> Viking667: did you rename .mozilla <after> you closed Firefox (makes a difference_
[21:57] <g_> that just shows one box which slowly swaps between the messages
[21:57] <OY1R> Viking667, it is indeed :)
[21:57] <Starminn> g_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1116278
[21:57] <tobier> __nick: and I assume you're installing ubuntu 10.10?
[21:58] <oneliner> does an ftp server itself have a user?
[21:58] <ikonia> oneliner: the ftp daemon runs as a user
[21:58] <lisa_> I have a simple question:  When running Ubuntu 10.10, how can I tell if I have 64-bit processors
[21:58] <Viking667> drc: yes, I did.
[21:58] <Starminn> g_: Try this (this does it for me usually to get multiple bubbles) Change a song in your media player and adjust volume at same time. Or really anything with a notification and volume. Volume has its own notification bubble.
[21:58] <__nick> ID?
[21:58] <oneliner> how can i know which is the user of a running process?
[21:59] <tobier> __nick: according the tutorial, you should've looked up your model id, and use the corresponding subpage for that model
[21:59] <drc> Viking667: OK, just wan't sure from the wording, let me check something
[21:59] <mfpockets> hi guys I am trying to install something for an IR remote but the sudo make install command isnt working.
[21:59] <tobier> __nick: my guess is that you didn't; I'd advise you to start over
[21:59] <Viking667> drc: when I first start up firefox after renaming .mozilla, it starts up with Ubuntu's startup page they've set. Then when I shut down firefox and start it up again, Work Offline is then ticked.
[21:59] <__nick> macbook 6.1
[21:59] <Viking667> Meh.
[21:59] <ThinkT510> oneliner: ps aux in a terminal
[21:59] <guntbert> !compile | mfpockets
[21:59] <cheater-> hi guys
[22:00] <Viking667> and #firefox has said nothing... just been joins/parts
[22:00] <cheater-> how can i check what "exact" version of ubuntu i have?
[22:00] <debzf> lisa_:  uname -a, if you see anything with 64 it's 64-bit
[22:00] <mfpockets> ubottu it was a .tar and i untarred it and the forum post i was following said simply run sudo make install
[22:00] <drc> Viking667: but the Work Offline in NOT checked the first time after renaming, only on the second start?
[22:00] <Viking667> cheater-: /etc/issue
[22:00] <Viking667> drc: correct
[22:00] <cheater-> there's a bug in metacity which is scheduled to come out in 10.04.3. i've got 10.04 but not sure about the third part.
[22:00] <__nick> correct?
[22:00] <cheater-> ok i have 10.04.2
[22:00] <cheater-> any idea when 10.04.3 will be released?
[22:00] <ikonia> cheater-: which bug ?
[22:00] <ikonia> cheater-: I'm not aware of a 10.04.3 point release
[22:01] <ikonia> cheater-: what's the bug
[22:01] <mfpockets> ubottu i am really new to linux and understand the basics but it is returning install: cannot stat `hama_mce': No such file or directory
[22:01] <mfpockets> make: *** [install] Error 1
[22:01] <cheater-> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/494096
[22:01] <Skutarth> mfpockets: You are talking to a bot.
[22:01] <cheater-> ikonia: it's fairly severe... it can lead to lost work, corrupt data, and security compromise
[22:01] <lisa_> Thanks debzf , Mine doesn't show 64-bit.  I just wanted to make sure I didn't need to download a different version of 10.10.  I loaded the x386 version
[22:01] <tobier> __nick: from what I read, there may be a problem with GRUB messing up the MBR, which I think is what going on because you get an I/O error (possibly it means it can't find a bootable device)
[22:01] <guntbert> mfpockets: ubottu is a bot, please read what she sent you, that should help
[22:01] <bc81> i think canonical is spying on me.   i muted my laptop's internal mic via sound preferences.  but when i open fmit (a guitar tunig program)  it still picks up sound from my internal mic.  what gives??
[22:01] <ikonia> cheater-: just going to have a read, where did you get told it's 10.04.3 that it's fixed in
[22:02] <cheater-> look at the last update
[22:02] <tobier> __nick: however, I have no experience with installing ubuntu on macbooks; my advice still is to start over and make sure you follow the steps in the tutorial
[22:02] <tobier> __nick: other than that, I can't be of much help. sorry
[22:02] <__nick> ok, but where I must instal grub?
[22:02] <ikonia> cheater-: ahh, I see why you think that, ok
[22:02] <Skutarth> bc81: Open up your laptop and stab the microphone with a screwdriver.
[22:02] <debzf> lisa_: sorry, it only means that your current OS is 32 bit! I don't know how to check if your pc supports 64-bit
[22:02] <mfpockets> gunthbert thanks, realized that after typing.
[22:02] <__nick> ubuntu partition, or macosx partition?
[22:02] <drc> Viking667: have to play with puppy for a bit (she woke up, back in about 15 min :)
[22:02] <Viking667> check /proc/cpuinfo to see if your CPU supports 64-bit
[22:02] <cheater-> ikonia: basically the situation is like this: if you have a window, and click it, the click can get randomly forwarded to another window
[22:02] <Viking667> drc: cool.
[22:02] <ikonia> cheater-: this must be wrong, but the expected date is 2011-07-29
[22:03] <cheater-> ikonia: this means closing, maximizing, etc.
[22:03] <guntbert> !tab | mfpockets :-)
[22:03] <lisa_> debzf, I guess I could download the ISO and see if it boots/runs on my system
[22:03] <g_> Starminn: you're missing the point! i'm triggering the bubbles myself!
[22:03] <tobier> __nick: use rEFIt if you're dual booting
[22:03] <debzf> yeah, try it
[22:03] <cheater-> ikonia: there is a patch, and even a ppa version, that fix it
[22:03] <cheater-> ikonia: and it's supposedly fixed in 10.10
[22:03] <cheater-> ikonia: it can't be that difficult..
[22:03] <Starminn> g_: Yes, I udnerstand that and I gave you a link to the program you are using.
[22:03] <ikonia> cheater-: I don't decide on the release, that's the planned date, that seems a harsh wait time
[22:03] <__nick> already use, but not important if ubuntu doesnt restart !
[22:04] <Starminn> g_: Previously I did not, that is correct, but the link I gave is about the program it would appear you are using?
[22:04] <lisa_> I just noticed most of the Dell laptops are loaded with windows 7 64-bit... wondered if I was going to have to re-load ubuntu 64-bit.
[22:04] <sier> hiho
[22:04] <cheater-> ikonia: it's insane to just merge a patch
[22:04] <cheater-> which takes, oh, 4 seconds :)
[22:04] <ikonia> cheater-: raise it as an issue on the bug report
[22:04] <cheater-> i think i will
[22:04] <ikonia> cheater-: I think you have a valid point
[22:04] <k9-console> hey guys
[22:04] <POSTrouble> hello room I am installing a impact printer epson tmu and keep gettin the error that cupsFilter file rastertotmu is missing
[22:04] <Viking667> What makes me laugh about my machine is: it's got a 64-bit CPU, but the rest of the machine appears to be entirely 32-bit. No EFI here that I can see.
[22:05] <cheater-> where do you see the date 07-29?
[22:05] <g_> Starminn: so, is there a better notification program to use?
[22:05] <ikonia> cheater-: click on the ubuntu 10.04.3 link
[22:05] <ikonia> cheater-: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.04.3
[22:05] <g_> the notify plugin with ubuntu kinda doesn't work
[22:05] <POSTrouble> i have tried the sudo aa complain command and that does not help any assistnace would be appreciated
[22:05] <__nick> :(
[22:05] <POSTrouble> thank you
[22:05] <g_> it just feels like a cheap osx clone!
[22:05] <mfpockets> guntbert, lol, im getting pwned on everything.  reading through the links now.  thanks
[22:06] <jsebean> test
[22:06] <jsebean> hello
[22:06] <sier> hiho
[22:06] <jsebean> i cant dim my screen on ubuntu 10.04
[22:06] <guntbert> mfpockets: no problem :) we all had to learn
[22:06] <jsebean> i have an emachine E725
[22:06] <oneliner> so settign perms on the folder to 777 allows the user to write, so ftpd server is ok
[22:06] <__nick> there is someone have installed ubuntu in macbook?
[22:06] <guntbert> !enter | jsebean
[22:06] <__nick> pls answer me:(
[22:06] <oneliner> am just not figuring out how to set the users/groups right
[22:07] <jsebean> my apologies, any ideas though?
[22:07] <Starminn> g_: I do not know of any, I'm sorry. You could try Googling around though and see what you come acorss. I do not know of any though, no.
[22:07] <ikonia> oneliner: chown
[22:07] <tobier> __nick: are you talking to me? I said to highlight me; I almost have no chance seeing your messages otherwise...
[22:07] <Viking667> chown changes owners, chmod changes permissions
[22:07] <BLKBXX> __nick i know of people who have none were really lucky but that was also a while back
[22:07] <Homefix> icon: u still here
[22:07] <ikonia> Homefix: yes
[22:08] <jsebean> can anybody help me with this. I can't adjust my screen brightness on my emachine E725
[22:08] <Viking667> oneliner: info chown
[22:08] <Homefix> bear with me one more chance u can tell me to jump in the lake after one but i have to tell u..............
[22:08] <__nick> I a m not a lucky guy:(
[22:08] <Viking667> oneliner: whoops - I meant to type:   man chown
[22:09] <jsebean> anybody? I can't adjust my screen brightness on my emachine E725
[22:09] <oneliner> ikonia: my issue is: i have ussera and usserb both on groupa , which is same name as usera, so it loosks like ussra groupa ussrb groupa
[22:09] <drc> Viking667: pawned the puppy off on the daughter :)  I'm stumped.  What really is confusing is the rename/delete .mozilla and the problem comes right back.  I'm out of ideas...sorry
[22:09] <oneliner> thing is when dir is set to 775, ussrb still cant write to it via ftp
[22:10] <Homefix> I tried gksudo nautilus in terminal and got (nautilus:1096) warning failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: no such file or directoyy
[22:10] <Viking667> drc: yeah, me too.
[22:10] <DasEi> oneliner: simply own the dir to the desired user ?
[22:10] <oneliner> i need both to be able to write
[22:10] <DasEi> oneliner: sudo chown -R UserHere /some/dir
[22:11] <guntbert> Homefix: the reason might be that you started a GUI app with just sudo
[22:11] <DasEi> oneliner: an plain ftp.. may I ask why you don't use ssh or https, vsftp least ?
[22:11] <loculinux> ...
[22:12] <loculinux> chile
[22:12] <loculinux> ?
[22:12] <Homefix> is the /var/run/dbus/system.... part of upstart?
[22:12] <lisa_> Does the ubuntu 10.10 x386 ISO include support for the intel 64-bit processors?
[22:13] <cheater-> ikonia: done
[22:13] <DasEi> loculinux: this an english spoken channel, need help ?
[22:13] <DasEi> ah
[22:14] <thunkee> lisa_: works but not 64 bit ... beyond the name amd64 is suitable
[22:14] <drc> Viking667: well, back to the puppy...Try "ubuntu+firefox+work offline" in google, there are lots of entries (some old), didn't have time to look at more than a couple...maybe you'll find somthing
[22:14] <lisa_> So the new laptops that come with windows 7 64-bit with Intel processor there's now Ubuntu for it?
[22:15] <cbz> why does ubuntu divide init scripts between init.d and init? there seems to be no rationale
[22:15] <Skutarth> It appears things have slowed down now. Can anybody address my question?
[22:15] <ThinkT510> lisa_: you can install either 32bit or 64bit ubuntu on a 64 bit processor
[22:15] <windycitybro> mimustafa, where r u
[22:16] <lisa_> Thanks ThinkT510, but I'm confused about the ISO... Would I use the AMD64 ISO for the Intel chips?
[22:16] <ThinkT510> lisa_: yes
[22:16] <lisa_> Thanks ThinkT510 , Why don't they take the AMD off the name then?  That would help.
[22:16] <ThinkT510> lisa_: thats just what the architecture is known as, it works n intel and amd cpus
[22:16] <DasEi> cbz: there is a movement going on from the old init  to the new service approach
[22:16] <oneliner> DasEi: thing is i amtrying over vsftpd setup to use from php, and i aint got shhlib to use sftp
[22:16] <mfpockets> guntbert,  I am reading the link about installing from source, and the first step is referencing an ./configure file but I cannot find one nor does the command supplied work.
[22:16] <thunkee> lisa_: amd64 iss only the name for the technology ... works with intel and amd processors
[22:17] <evident> hi everybody...
[22:17] <Dazzled> anyone know an IRC channel where I can ask about Berkeley/Posix sockets?
[22:17] <Homefix> My var/run/dbus is empty
[22:17] <mfpockets> guntbert,  I have a makefile though, are these two in the same
[22:17] <lisa_> I used to work at AMD...
[22:17] <evident> can anybody tell me why I can't chown a symbolic link I made as root?
[22:18] <DasEi> oneliner: vsftp is comlete; ssh is not an option (scp, rsync over ssh) ?
[22:18] <evident> I have a file in one of my user's home dir and I want to symlink it to a directory in my /var/www/.../httpdocs and make it accessible from the web, so chown it to my webservers username
[22:18] <Starminn> evident: Because root made it, maybe? Have you tried "sudo chown"?
[22:18] <ThinkT510> Skutarth: try posting your problem again
[22:18] <evident> well I am logged in as root...
[22:19] <SkEmO> si?
[22:19] <cbz> DasEi: is there a unified set of scripts somewhere which i can use to control which of them run and at what runlevel?
[22:19] <Homefix> icon vr/run/dbus/ is missing pid system_bus_socket?
[22:19] <evident> and when i try "chown webuser:group file.txt it doesnt change anything
[22:19] <guntbert> mfpockets: no, usually there is a file named configure, this prepares the actual make file, if it is not there you could try to just run make in the directory (don't use sudo yet), then (if successful) run sudo make install
[22:19] <oneliner> DasEi: i would love to simply be able to handle users and chmods properly :)
[22:19] <__nick> thx to all and good night (sure for me here is night :) )
[22:19] <thunkee> evident: in general you canrt chown symbolic links
[22:19] <Viking667> bah. It seems NetworkManager is running, and Firefox was prodding it to see what interfaces there were, not finding anything, so working offline. Bah bah bah. I thought I removed NetworkManager!
[22:20] <DasEi> oneliner: ftp is fine if no authentics and such are required, so just download. install ssh and fail2ban, then use rsync or scp to upload files
[22:20] <Fanshawe> Hello. I can't get Empathy to connect to an MSN chat account. I'm sure I have the right password and settings, because those settings work on Pidgin from another computer.
[22:20] <evident> well but how can I set it then? since my apache user doesnt have access to the other user's homedir
[22:20] <thunkee> evident: change the original
[22:20] <DasEi> oneliner: man useradd, gropad, chown, chmod
[22:21] <DasEi> group*
[22:21] <evident> to what?
[22:21] <Blue_Wolf> hello, some one know easypeasy?
[22:21] <yuskhanzab> help! how to run iptraf in terminal?
[22:21] <DasEi> cbz: rephrase question, unclear .. want to add a startupapplication or manipulte services ?
[22:21] <evident> if I change the owner there the owner itself (a script) cannot write in it anymore...
[22:21] <Starminn> !find easypeasy | Blue_Wolf
[22:21] <thunkee> evident: <sarcastic> to what you need and what you can risk :)
[22:22] <Blue_Wolf> !find easypeasy
[22:22] <evident> hmmm
[22:22] <Blue_Wolf> i would like to translate it to hebrew
[22:23] <Blue_Wolf> need some guide or some thing
[22:23] <mfpockets> guntbert,  I dont think this looks like it executed correctly http://pastebin.com/7x9chbed
[22:23] <Starminn> Blue_Wolf: Contact the devs?
[22:23] <windycitybro> can someone give me the comand to copy a theme to the .irssi directory
[22:23] <DasEi> windycitybro: sudo cp
[22:24] <windycitybro> DasEi is that all?
[22:24] <ThinkT510> !cp
[22:24] <DasEi> windycitybro: yes, maybe even without sudo, if it's writeable
[22:25] <DasEi> cbz: ?
[22:25] <mfpockets> guntbert,  and this is result of sudo make install http://pastebin.com/SemdmauZ
[22:25] <minimec> windycitybro: Copy it to the .irssi directory and type /set theme yourtheme in the irssi commandline.
[22:25] <poffio> hi to all
[22:26] <spacedpine> hey, I am having a little trouble booting from my usb drive on my macbook air.. I think I need to format my usb a certain way to render bootable?
[22:26] <lisa_> Found out my laptop has a T6600 CPU, and Intel shows it is 64-bit instruction set.  So I should be running the AMD64 ISO right?  What will I see if I change it?  More performance?
[22:26] <_Neytiri_> how do i resolve this issue Error occurred during initialization of VM  Could not reserve enough space for object heap  Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[22:26] <minimec> windycitybro: do /save afterwards to make the change permanent
[22:27] <DasEi> lisa : it's more about adress-translation in regards of ram, no performance reasonable
[22:27] <guntbert> mfpockets: never call make install when the previous make went wrong - copy the archive into your own homedir , extract it there again, cd into the directory and try make again
[22:27] <ThinkT510> lisa_: 64bit processors allow you to access over 4 gigs of ram, thats the biggest benefit
[22:27] <DasEi> lisa_: how much ram ?
[22:27] <lisa_> just 4g
[22:27] <DasEi> lisa : mem shows you
[22:27] <lisa_> so no need to change?
[22:28] <TerribleTech> q
[22:28] <DasEi> lisa_: get either 32bit pae or , my advice, 64 bit
[22:28] <DasEi> !pae
[22:28] <ddf> somebody speak slovenian
[22:28] <ddf> ?
[22:28] <nachos> Hi, What is the best USB Wireless-N adapter to use with ubuntu?
[22:28] <cbz> DasEi: is there a unified set of scripts somewhere which i can use to control which of them run and at what runlevel?
[22:28] <Skutarth> Can somebody at least answer my yes/no question? Can a fakeRAID be corrupted if Ubuntu is installed through Wubi?
[22:28] <lisa_> I'm downloading the AMD64 ISO, opinions on if I should reload with it?
[22:28] <DasEi> cbz: rephrase question, unclear .. want to add a startupapplication or manipulte services ?
[22:28] <nachos> I bought a WUSB325GC and its a peice of crap.
[22:29] <Dazzled> lisa_: I have a 64bit Ubuntu running on a Intel Centrino Duo (Dell D830)
[22:29] <cbz> DasEi: as each of the tools seem to read either /etc/init or /etc/init.d
[22:29] <oneliner> DasEi: thing is, 1) the final operator is going to be the php backend of a cms, 2) the blessed directory should be writable beyond excuse
[22:29] <cbz> DasEi: i want to be able to control startup and runlevel
[22:29] <oneliner> id rather learn this method right before trying the others
[22:29] <mendicus> mendicus
[22:29] <a7i3n>  /exit
[22:29] <mfpockets> guntbert,  identical out put of the first link i sent.
[22:29] <Dazzled> While I don't know if there are any added benefits, I prefer to utilise my HW to the fullest extent
[22:29] <ThinkT510> lisa_: you should have the same user experience as you do with the 32bit ubuntu
[22:30] <guntbert> Skutarth: we don't ignore you, it may just be that nobody *knows* the answer
[22:30] <lisa_> Thanks Y'all.  I'll play with it and maybe reload
[22:30] <DasEi> cbz: so chkonfig is your friend, and aslo check :
[22:30] <DasEi> !bum
[22:30] <DasEi> !startup
[22:30] <Dazzled> Some bumps you might encounter: Flash (there's a *real* 64 bit driver by now)
[22:30] <ddf> ups
[22:31] <oneliner> now i noticed vsftp has three processes two as root and one as nobody, does that sound fishy to anyone?
[22:31] <guntbert> mfpockets: well, I'm a bit too tired at the moment - think again if you really need *that* program, the installation seems a bit weird :-))
[22:31] <apox> Heya
[22:31] <DasEi> cbz: see there are few ways to achive it
[22:31] <_Neytiri_> how do i resolve this issue Error occurred during initialization of VM  Could not reserve enough space for object heap  Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[22:31] <mfpockets> guntbert,  thanks, its a patch to make all buttons on my media center remote work correctly.  Ill try to figure it out
[22:32] <apox> If install virtualbox and run windows 7 on it, can i then play like mw2 flawless exactly like i was running windows 7 from the harddrive ?
[22:32] <guntbert> mfpockets: Good luck :-)
[22:32] <DasEi> oneliner: you read my concerns, but own you own risk : chmod +w will make it writeable
[22:33] <Skutarth> Crap. I mean, I know Wubi's docs say that it doesn't support fakeRAID, that doesn't at all tell me whether or not it means that it might not work or if it means that it will wipe my entire drive.
[22:33] <yuskhanzab> anyone playing euphRO in here?
[22:33] <kev009> how do I remove linux-image-server and its deps so only linux-virtual remains?
[22:33] <oneliner> yet thats not what i want either
[22:33] <yuskhanzab> got problem when conncting the euphRO
[22:33] <burd> So I am a Debian guy myself but.. a guy at work comes to me with this ubuntu driven netbook, goes.. we shut it down and now this.. It cannot find /sbin/init .. seen lots of threads in the ubuntu forums but i have yet to see anything that explains how /sbin/init has been removed on so many machines in the last month... Does anyone have any links to the true cause of this epidemic?
[22:33] <DasEi> Skutarth: you wont a softraid in wubi ?
[22:34] <DasEi> a'
[22:35] <apox> If install virtualbox and run windows 7 on it, can i then play like mw2 flawless exactly like i was running windows 7 from the harddrive ?
[22:35] <DasEi> burd: /etc/init
[22:35] <cheater-> what's mw2?
[22:35] <cheater-> mechwarrior 2? :)
[22:36] <burd> DasEi, excuse me? I am not sure what you are asking
[22:36] <DasEi> apox: on a very strong machine only, and graphics will suffer, so no
[22:36] <Da|Mummy> im installing an internal 2tb hdd, which filesystem should i use any why?
[22:36] <JSong> does anyone have any experience upgrading from 8.04LTS to 9.10 LTS?
[22:36] <DasEi> burd: next to the outrunning /etc/init.d ubuntu uses services now
[22:36] <cheater-> JSong: i've done that, wasn't too bad.
[22:36] <xangua> JSong: 9.10 is not lts
[22:37] <DasEi> apox:you do a dualboot for that
[22:37] <cheater-> JSong: i would go to 10.04.
[22:37] <apox> Ok, to bad :(
[22:37] <apox> Thanks for the help tho
[22:37] <sneakyimp> can anyone tell me how i might obtain the ./configure command to compile PHP so that i have all the options the same as the ubuntu default apt-get install?
[22:37] <JSong> cheater: i want to go to 10.04 but it says i have to first go to 9.10 first then from 9.1 go to 10.04.  But I do not have a gui and so I must do it all from command line
[22:38] <JSong> cheater-: i want to go to 10.04 but it says i have to first go to 9.10 first then from 9.1 go to 10.04.  But I do not have a gui and so I must do it all from command line
[22:38] <DasEi> JSong: current distro ?
[22:38] <cheater-> JSong: aha
[22:38] <burd> DasEi, I am not udnerstanding here.. what would that have to do with staarting the machine? I don't understand.. this is the first command run when a mchine starts.. the binary is gone
[22:38] <cheater-> JSong: i think you do it with apt-get..
[22:38] <_Neytiri_> how do i resolve this issue Error occurred during initialization of VM  Could not reserve enough space for object heap  Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[22:38] <_Neytiri_> i cant figure out how to fix that
[22:38] <leon> Hello
[22:38] <JSong> dasEi: what do you mean current distro? it is 8.04
[22:38] <cheater-> JSong: first do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade. that is all.
[22:39] <DasEi> burd: yes, missunderstanding, the initrd is gone ?
[22:39] <DasEi> JSong: 8.o4 should be able to go one step 10.04
[22:39] <burd> DasEi, gone.. and i am seeing forum thread after forum thread in the ubuntu forums concerning it
[22:39] <Skutarth> DasEi: I'm running a BIOS RAID (I was unaware of it at the time I installed)
[22:39] <jonathan> JSong, what happened to your GUI?
[22:40] <JSong> dasEi: not based on this site:  Because Kubuntu 8.04 was not an LTS release and has passed its end of life, direct upgrades to Kubuntu 10.04 LTS from Kubuntu 8.04 are not supported. Please follow the directions for upgrading Kubuntu 8.04 to 9.10 first, then follow the directions above for upgrades from Kubuntu 9.10.
[22:40] <Skutarth> DasEi: I want to either install Ubuntu onto a separate drive or find a way to safely dual boot with Windows 7 64-bit on the fakeRAID drive (including Wubi as an option).
[22:40] <Calz> hello
[22:40] <Calz> tehre's someone here ?
[22:40] <DasEi> JSong: ah, kubunut, bad luck then
[22:40] <Calz> there*
[22:40] <JSong> jonathon: it is on the server so it never had a gui I can only term in unless I want to install x11vnc
[22:40] <lost_soul> sorry, this is a bit of a vague question.  But I'm experiencing issues with NFS mounts on an (kinda) ubuntu 10.04 system.  The shares mount fine but seem to randomly vanish (crash).  Anyone else notice similar?
[22:40] <DasEi> Calz: just 1571
[22:40] <jonathan> ah
[22:41] <JSong> dasEi: i dont know if i have kbunut or waht i have all i knwo is that it is 8.04
[22:41] <EmuAlert> How do you navigate to a directory with spaces in it?
[22:41] <lost_soul> quote it
[22:41] <lost_soul> cd "my directory"
[22:41] <burd> EmuAlert, quotes
[22:41] <jrib> EmuAlert: cd 'dir with spaces'   OR   cd dir\ with\ spaces
[22:41] <BLKBXX> is you bar with you programs on the top or bottom JSONG?
[22:41] <sneakyimp> can anyone tell me how i get the ./configure command for default apt-get install of PHP5 ?
[22:42] <JSong> blkbxx: i dont have a gui it is just a command line
[22:42] <sneakyimp> there are so many modules installed...i want to make sure i get them all
[22:42] <lost_soul> sneakyimp: ./configure is for when you compile I believe
[22:42] <BLKBXX> ic
[22:42] <DasEi> Skutarth: works, do a dualboot, I don't like wubi (case of problems bad repair option, rather use vm's , fine for a first glance though, regulary gets borked on ntfs)
[22:42] <jrib> !source | sneakyimp
[22:42] <sneakyimp> lost_soul: that is exactly what i'm trying to do
[22:42] <jrib> sneakyimp: use apt to install things
[22:42] <lost_soul> sneakyimp: then you wouldn't use apt-get, you need to download the source to compile it
[22:43] <sneakyimp> ubottu: yes but they don't have 5.3.5 in the package repos, do they?
[22:43] <EmuAlert> Ah, thanks
[22:43] <sneakyimp> lost_soul: i have downloaded source, i want to make sure when i run ./configure that i have the same options as the apt-get install does
[22:43] <Skutarth> DasEi: Anything special I have to do as far as bootloader? Will using GRUB as the MBR on the Ubuntu drive let me recognize and boot Win7 on the fakeRAID?
[22:43] <windycitybro> how do I change the theme, I saved to .irssi file, typed /set theme aka.png did I miss something
[22:43] <sneakyimp> lost_soul: otherwise, i might not have all those tasty modules.  e.g., sockets, pcntl, mysql, etc.
[22:44] <DasEi> Skutarth: the installer will just see it as one drive, first install win, then ubuntu
[22:44] <DasEi> yes, grub boots win 7
[22:44] <lost_soul> sneakyimp: oh..  so you want to see what the package has as far as compile time options goes..  I'm unaware how to check that, sorry
[22:44] <Calz> DasEi, i have a 'problem', i have just finished the ubuntu update and now i have two ubuntu o boot screen, how can i delete the older kernel version of the boot screen
[22:44] <sneakyimp> lost_soul: exactly.  for some reason, phpinfo output doesn't tell me what the configure command is...it usually does.
[22:45] <DasEi> Calz: open synaptic
[22:45] <Skutarth> DasEi: Ubuntu's installer doesn't recognize the fakeRAID at all. If I boot into the liveCD and look at the mounted volumes, it shows up as two separate, empty drives.
[22:46] <DasEi> Calz: I like two kernels least, case mess, the older one still works
[22:46] <sneakyimp> skutarth: that sounds like something you should tweak in BIOS...do you have mobo manual?
[22:46] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: Yeah. This is Intel ICH9R, I believe.
[22:46] <sneakyimp> skutarth: otherwise, are the hard drives clean or is this multi-boot situation?
[22:46] <windycitybro> how do I change the theme, I saved to .irssi file, typed /set theme aka.png did I miss something
[22:46] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: The drives are not clean, unfortunately.
[22:47] <sneakyimp> skutarth: can you reformat them or not?
[22:47] <Calz> DasEi, in fact i don't want to real remove it, just want to delete the option of grub screen
[22:47] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: Not at the moment.
[22:47] <lost_soul> sneakyimp: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/finding-config-options-with-which-apt-get-install-installs-a-package-858945/
[22:47] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: I'm thinking it might just be better to wait and get another drive.
[22:47] <lost_soul> that might be of help
[22:47] <apox> If i have CrossfireX enable can that mess up the linux ? Sometimes i get errors when i startup linux and my bars and windows are grey instead of the goodlooking ubuntu style
[22:47] <jo-erlend> can someone recommend a tool to measure disk IO performance of a disk?
[22:47] <tonyyarusso> (Using OpenOffice.org on 10.04)  I'm trying to print a letter to various recipients.  I have a spreadsheet with all of the names and addresses, and a template file with placeholders.  How do I go about printing a copy of the template for each record in the spreadsheet?
[22:48] <sneakyimp> lost_soul: thx, but no answer there :(
[22:48] <a_p3rson1> apox: using ati? (btw apox is a great game)
[22:48] <apox> ye ATI
[22:48] <jonathan> when is 11.04 scheduled to be released?
[22:48] <sneakyimp> skutarth:  i'm not an expert at this...internal drives formatted as RAID, correct?  is this done via mobo function or via some other os that's installed?
[22:48] <a_p3rson1> umm it could possibly especially if there are 2 different models
[22:48] <DasEi> Calz: the do a subfolder in /boot, move the unwanted initrd's there and run sudo update-grub
[22:48] <DasEi> then*
[22:48] <IanWizard> jonathan, in 2011, in the month of 04
[22:48] <apox> I have reinstalled ubuntu 2 times but i still have the same problems
[22:49] <jonathan> thanks IanWizard
[22:49] <DasEi> Calz: also you can define howmany kernels grub shall hold
[22:49] <a_p3rson1> jonathan: the naming scheme is like this: [month it will be released].[year it will be released]
[22:49] <DasEi> Calz: but least two kernels are fine, case an update fails
[22:49] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: Done through MoBo function. Intel's soft RAID chip has its own BIOS.
[22:49] <a_p3rson1> 10.10 = october 2010
[22:50] <IanWizard> a_p3rson1, that's backward.
[22:50] <jonathan> a_p3rson1, I hadn.t realized that
[22:50] <Calz> ok, yeah it's an nice option
[22:50] <Calz> i will try here
[22:50] <jonathan> I had always wondered how they got the numbering
[22:50] <a_p3rson1> lol i just noticed that
[22:50] <jonathan> thanks
[22:50] <sneakyimp> skutarth:  hm...i'm kind of out of ideas.  Unless I'm mistaken, the mobo should present the RAID drives as a single device entity to software os -- or at least i think so
[22:50] <a_p3rson1> jonathon: mines backwards
[22:50] <apox> a_p3rson1: ye im using ATi, reinstalled ubuntu 2 times and still the same problems, some problem you heard of before ?
[22:50] <a_p3rson1> [year].[month]
[22:50] <IanWizard> it's the last two of the year (11), dot (.), month (04)
[22:51] <rideh> if sftp is just too slow whats the next best thing? Rsync?
[22:51] <IanWizard> and it's always in April, and October  (04, and 10)
[22:51] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: Unfortunately I don't think it's transparent to the operating system. It's a crappy kludge that requires drivers in the OS. I think Windows 7 has them built in, but Windows XP required the drvers to be installed via floppy or slipstreaming.
[22:51] <sneakyimp> skutarth: but my knowledge gets really thin at this point...
[22:51] <a_p3rson1> apox: its possible, i wouldn't recommend having crossfire enabled in ubuntu (you should be able to use CCC to disable it), you wont need that much power
[22:52] <spectrahp> hello, i downloaded ubuntu 10.10 desktop edition, and made a bootable USB. Booting from it hangs at this line "SYSLINUX 3.82 ........"
[22:52] <spectrahp> can anyone tell me why???
[22:52] <sneakyimp> skutarth:  if drivers required, i think you are SOL.  another drive would probably do it -- and i'd be willing to be you won't be able to access the RAID that's in there unless by miracle you find the right drivers
[22:52] <tf2ftw> spectrahp, need mroe info
[22:52] <a_p3rson1> spectrahp: try burning to a CD first
[22:52] <a_p3rson1> some computers dont like usb booting
[22:52] <sneakyimp> skutarth:  drives are very cheap now -- especially if you just need 200GB SATA...they're like $40
[22:52] <spectrahp> a_p3rson1: The same machine used to boot from 9.something
[22:53] <spectrahp> a_p3rson1: from an ubuntu made usb
[22:53] <a_p3rson1> i know
[22:53] <tf2ftw> spectrahp, anything else plugged into usb?
[22:53] <a_p3rson1> but still try burning a cd
[22:53] <spectrahp> tf2ftw: more info? theres a mouse and a keyboard, thats it
[22:53] <a_p3rson1> also tf2ftw is right
[22:53] <spectrahp> tf2ftw: its i386 also
[22:53] <Jordan_U> spectrahp: What OS did you use to make the USB?
[22:53] <spectrahp> Jordan_U: Vista
[22:54] <a_p3rson1> shouldnt matter unless you created a startup disk on another architecture (x86 > x64)
[22:54] <sneakyimp> can anyone tell me if there are source files or other stuff left over from my original "apt-get install php5" ?? if so, where would i find them?
[22:54] <a_p3rson1> ahhh
[22:54] <apox> a_p3rson1: Ok, have disabled it now, gonna restart after the movie but i think i tried it before some days ago
[22:54] <apox> a_p3rson1: Thanks for your time
[22:54] <spectrahp> a_p3rson1: actually Vista is 64bit, could that be why??
[22:54] <tonyyarusso> sneakyimp: sources are in separate packages.
[22:54] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: Thanks for the info. Would I still be able to boot into both if Windows 7 is on the fakeRAID and Ubuntu is on a separate, normally partitioned drive?
[22:54] <a_p3rson1> spectrahp: vista will burn it as NTFS or FAT, probably having a hard time
[22:54] <spectrahp> a_p3rson1: it shouldnt actually. I created the old ubuntu 9 USB froim vista as well
[22:54] <a_p3rson1> apox: np
[22:54] <tf2ftw> spectrahp, anything else plugged into usb?
[22:54] <sneakyimp> tonyyarusso: i'm just trying to find out what ./configure options they used to build php5
[22:54] <spectrahp> tf2ftw: only keyboard and mouse
[22:55] <a_p3rson1> spectrahp: humor us, try using a cd
[22:55] <sneakyimp> tonyyarusso: any ideas?  it's usually visible in phpinfo output but not in Ubuntu's build
[22:55] <tonyyarusso> sneakyimp: Download the source package and read the scripts in the debian directory then.
[22:55] <tf2ftw> spectrahp, maybe a bad image flash
[22:55] <Skutarth> sneakyimp: Or would I need to use the Windows bootloader to boot into Ubuntu instead of using GRUB with the MBR on the Ubuntu drive?
[22:55] <tobiasz> my dad's laptop (Asus F3SG) has a webcam which now works very bad, barelly starts up, and updates framerate once per minute
[22:55] <spectrahp> a_p3rson1: no blank CDs and also that is not a solution...
[22:55] <spectrahp> tf2ftw: i will format and recreate the USB bootable image
[22:55] <Ben64> how do you know it's not a solution?
[22:56] <tf2ftw> spectrahp, sounds like a hardware conflict if not a usb image problem
[22:56] <spectrahp> Ben64: I want to boot from USB
[22:56] <tobiasz> what can be cause for that? Is gpu temperature (around 65'C all the time) possibly causing the problem?
[22:56] <DasEi> Skutarth: in this scene you would install grub on the singledrive and have an entry for win in there
[22:56] <Ben64> spectrahp: usb booting isn't 100%, cd is
[22:56] <sneakyimp> skutarth: hard t say there...i think Ubuntu installer will try to move the boot.ini or create one if it can't find the windows 7 boot.ini.  If Ubuntu doesn't understand the fakeRAID format, then it will probably assume the drives are not formatted
[22:56] <tobiasz> I wasn't like that in the past
[22:56] <a_p3rson> spectrahp: its could be that USB booting isnt loading all the drivers needed
[22:56] <Skutarth> DasEi: And it would definitely work even if Windows is on a fakeRAID that Ubuntu can't even see normally?
[22:57] <Dome> Hey
[22:57] <sneakyimp> tonyyarusso:  any idea where i might download those?  I'm quite unfamiliar with the structure of debian packages.  also, you think the configure command might be all in one place?  or would i need to parse out an entire long file?
[22:57] <a_p3rson> try using a cd OR (ugh) use Wubi (HIGHLY unrecommended, eww)
[22:57] <tonyyarusso> sneakyimp: apt-get source php5.  Look in debian/rules in particular.
[22:58] <sneakyimp> skutarth:  the only way you are likely to learn the truth here is the hard way...are you prepared to reinstall win 7 if it ruins everything?  if not, i wouldn't try it.
[22:58] <a_p3rson> tobiasz: 65C is getting quite toasty, is there a blocked airduct? also, temp shouldnt be a problem
[22:58] <DasEi> Skutarth: I wonder little, I have had such a setup (jmicron onboard), and once set up properly (think ide mode was required tho) it worked fine for both , xp and buntu
[22:58] <sneakyimp> tonyyaruso:  you are the dude... thanks.  where does this put the package on my file system?
[22:58] <Dome> Haha, windows 7.
[22:58] <tobiasz> a_p3rson it worked well in the past
[22:58] <tonyyarusso> sneakyimp: current working directory
[22:58] <bilig> hello anyone knows how to start gnome-panel at login?
[22:58] <tonyyarusso> sneakyimp: (and don't use sudo)
[22:59] <sneakyimp> tonyyarusso: less you friendly soul.  thanks
[22:59] <Ben64> bilig: it should start automatically...
[22:59] <tonyyarusso> np
[22:59] <DasEi> Skutarth: als the softraid of ubuntu works fine
[22:59] <Skutarth> I guess I'm waiting this one out, then. I'll hopefully have a single drive that is big enough to back everything up off of my RAID
[22:59] <JoshDreamland1> Hey, for some reason, I can't set my screen brightness. I'm using the dial under power management, and nothing's happening.
[22:59] <Skutarth> DasEi: But Windows has a crappy softRAID
[22:59] <tobiasz> a_p3rson I don't know what can be a reason for such terrible webcam behaviour
[22:59] <a_p3rson> tobiasz: not sure, but a 65C gpu is pretty toasty, make sure there isn't a blocked air intake (unrelated to the problem)
[22:59] <DasEi> Skutarth: the performance is fine in view of these lowcost fake raids, idk for win right
[22:59] <bilig> ben64, i use ubuntu netbook and it does not start, even when i put it in startup items
[23:00] <DasEi> Skutarth: could ask that in #windows
[23:00] <JoshDreamland1> I have a "Display off" button that works fine, but the brightness up and down buttons don't work, and neither does the slider under power management.
[23:00] <bilig> ben64, however it starts if run gnome-panel in terminal
[23:00] <tobiasz> a_p3rson ye this laptop requires deassembly and cleaning inside
[23:00] <tobiasz> a_p3rson fans are going wild lately
[23:00] <Skutarth> I'll have the option of changing to softRAID or installing onto the new drive if I get one. I guess I'll wait this out for now.
[23:00] <a_p3rson> bilig: netbook edition i believe doesn't run gnome properly, Unity is the one that is bundled
[23:00] <DasEi> Skutarth: as of data n web, I use nix* anyway, just for some playstuff I still deploy win
[23:01] <DasEi> so raid-fun.. errm
[23:01] <bilig> a_p3rson, what do you mean? what should i do?
[23:01] <a_p3rson> try using this at startup, maybe, im not sure:            gnome-panel --replace
[23:02] <bilig> ok i'll try, brb after restart
[23:02] <oday_> how do i remove all permissions from everybody for a certain directory?
[23:02] <Skutarth> a_p3rson: That reminds me of when you needed to do that for compiz to work.
[23:03] <Dome> How does one go about changing their theme?
[23:03] <a_p3rson> wrong a_p3rson i believe...i was helping someone though with that...
[23:03] <tobiasz> a_p3rson maybe it can be some webcam related setting regarding lighting or something
[23:03] <sneakyimp> tonyyarusso:  yikes!  that rules file is beastly
[23:03] <sneakyimp> tonyyarrusso:  i think i'll stick with 5.3.3. ;)
[23:03] <DasEi> !theme | Dome
[23:03] <a_p3rson> oday_: right click on the folder, properties, permissions
[23:03] <oday_> i want to do it from terminal man
[23:03] <a_p3rson> !paste
[23:04] <soreau> Look guys, I have to keep on connecting to server every 5 minutes from Places menu and it does not store what I type! How can I store this information for one click connect?
[23:04] <oday_> not gui
[23:04] <Dome> Yowza. Thank ot
[23:04] <a_p3rson> tobiasz: possibly
[23:04] <Skutarth> a_p3rson: No. You are the right one. I was commenting on running: gnome-panel --replace
[23:04] <soreau> I have to keep on connecting to an ftp server every 5 minutes from Places menu and it does not store what I type! How can I store this information for one click connect? It is becoming extremely annoying to type in over and over again
[23:04] <apogee_> how do i create a software raid  0 with GPT formatted disks
[23:05] <a_p3rson> oh ya, i thought i found that on the internet but i was helping someone else and told them to use --replace for compiz (probably had like emeral or something
[23:05] <bilig> a_p3rson, it did not work, using gnome-panel --replace
[23:05] <mneptok> soreau: click Places > Connect to server
[23:05] <a_p3rson> hmmmm
[23:05] <mneptok> soreau: see the "Add bookmark" checkbox?
[23:05] <a_p3rson> bilig: is unity running?
[23:05] <Skutarth> Bye all.
[23:05] <soreau> mneptok: No
[23:06] <mneptok> soreau: what version of Ubuntu?
[23:06] <DasEi> soreau: use dlm like dx4
[23:06] <DasEi> !info dx4
[23:06] <DasEi> soreau: lucid ?
[23:06] <soreau> mneptok: Ok I got it now, I can't see the forest past the trees :P
[23:06] <a_p3rson> oday_: there is a way, is it your home folder or in your file system?
[23:07] <bilig> a_p3rson: yes well, unity-application-daemon and unity-files-daemon
[23:07] <soreau> mneptok: thanks
[23:07] <mneptok> soreau: np np. glad it's sorted.
[23:07] <oday_> it's on an external drive
[23:07] <oday_> of course there's a way!
[23:07] <oday_> haha
[23:08] <a_p3rson> bilig: theres your problem, probably they wont play nice with eachother. try seeing about disabling unity at startup
[23:08] <sparky44> having problems adding skype using the directions from here http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/install-skype-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
[23:09] <sparky44> after i try to add sourse it says CD/DVD 'Ubuntu-Netbook 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)' is required
[23:09] <bilig> a_p3rson, ok but why doesn't it work at startup, but when i run it normally it works?
[23:09] <sparky44> Please insert the above CD/DVD into the drive '/cdrom/' to install software packages from it. so i do it and it still wont work can any one help
[23:09] <shadaloo> yo, trying to use ubuntu built in vnc server but all my apps are not updating the stream in real time (I have to exit the program and reopen it if I want to minimize a window, or enter a command.... Please help
[23:10] <DasEi> sparky44: such bad inet to use a cd ?
[23:10] <a_p3rson> oday_: use the chmod command in terminal, use      chmod --help         or man chmod        to learn how
[23:10] <oday_> ok
[23:10] <Ben64> sparky44: go back to the sources, and uncheck the cdrom entry
[23:10] <a_p3rson> bilig: unity possibly is done loading, not sure.
[23:10] <sparky44> ben64 what you mean?
[23:11] <spectrahp> Out of curiousity, does anyone know which version of syslinux the ubuntu 10.10 image is made with?
[23:11] <sparky44> ben64 i did that and it still pops up ill double check
[23:11] <shadaloo> anyone know why built in vnc isn't updating?
[23:11] <bilig> a_p3rson: i dont see unity in startup items list :S
[23:11] <a_p3rson> ...hmm
[23:12] <cheater-> hey guys, how do i set task priority (i.e. the value of the PR column in top)?
[23:12] <a_p3rson> google around ive seen how to remove unity and replace it with gnome...
[23:12] <Guest32174> hello, I have a problem with eps images in Lyx
[23:12] <Ben64> sparky44: go to a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install skype"
[23:12] <erUSUL> cheater-: see « man nice » or « man schedtool »
[23:12] <Ben64> cheater-: nice
[23:12] <shadaloo> yo, trying to use ubuntu built in vnc server but all my apps are not updating the stream in real time (I have to exit the program and reopen it if I want to minimize a window, or enter a command.... Please help
[23:12] <a_p3rson> Ben64: dangit you stole my line
[23:12] <Ben64> a_p3rson: sorry :(
[23:13] <a_p3rson> :@
[23:13] <bilig> a_p3rson, ok thanks
[23:13] <cheater-> erUSUL: Ben64: that's a separate value. it's in top in the NI column. I want the PR column.
[23:13] <cheater-> let me try schedtool
[23:13] <Ben64> cheater-: columns where
[23:13] <cheater-> top
[23:13] <erUSUL> cheater-: so see schedtool
[23:14] <cheater-> thank you
[23:14] <shadaloo> How come my vnc isn't updating yo
[23:14] <Ben64> cheater-: nice affects PRI as well
[23:15] <shadaloo> I have to restart for the change to update (a click for example)
[23:15] <sparky44> hoppimg the camra issue is fixed after all this
[23:15] <shadaloo> What gives d00ds
[23:16] <cheater-> Ben64: really? hmmmmmm
[23:16] <Ben64> indeed
[23:17] <cheater-> Ben64: how do you give it the PR value?
[23:17] <shadaloo> yo, trying to use ubuntu built in vnc server but all my apps are not updating the stream in real time (I have to exit the program and reopen it if I want to minimize a window, or enter a command.... Please help
[23:17] <Ben64> cheater-: it seems to be inversely related to the nice value
[23:18] <fruitwerks> Call to undefined function: dbase_open() - what do I need?
[23:19] <trism> shadaloo: either disable compiz or try setting /desktop/gnome/remote_access/disable_xdamage in gconf-editor
[23:19] <azizLIGHTS> how do i download all the files from my server's web server shown on index.html
[23:20] <ivan_> hi
[23:20] <shadaloo> trism: I want to sex you (no homo tho$
[23:20] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: maybe --> wget -r --no-parent http://webserver.com/index.html
[23:20] <niko> shadaloo: offtopic here
[23:21] <Abinadi> !ot | shadaloo
[23:21] <shadaloo> niko: compiz --replace
[23:21] <shadaloo> ???
[23:21] <shadaloo> Friends?
[23:21] <lucagiove> azizLIGHTS: man wget
[23:21] <UncleNinja> Like an idiot I set Compiz to use 32x32 virtual desktops, and now it just freezes and I have to reboot. I have access to a terminal, how do I set my compiz virtual desktops?
[23:22] <JoshDreamland1> Bleh, I'll figure it out
[23:22] <sparky44> sadly i think skype just does not like my cam
[23:22] <shadaloo> sparky hax dat
[23:22] <shadaloo> guys compiz --replace?
[23:23] <shadaloo> guys n grills*
[23:23] <trism> shadaloo: usually just System/Preferences/Appearance/Visual Effects/None
[23:23] <Starminn> azizLIGHTS: Just "Save as..." the page
[23:24] <cheater-> when i'm running top -H ("show all threads"), the PID column will show the thread's pthread TID right?
[23:24] <cheater-> or is it some sort of PID?
[23:24] <ZykoticK9> shadaloo, if you want to disable compiz, you could use "metacity --replace"
[23:24] <shadaloo> trism mate any idea how to do that in cli
[23:24] <azizLIGHTS> Starminn: i want the files on the index.html page
[23:24] <UncleNinja> What's the gconf key (or whatever i'm trying to say) for the compiz virtual desktops rows/columns?
[23:24] <shadaloo> ZykoticK9: word that's the one
[23:25] <shadaloo> thanks trism, +10 points to griffyndor
[23:25] <shadaloo> For u
[23:25] <shadaloo> Bye
[23:25] <jonthue_> where can i find drivers for hp 3050
[23:25] <a_p3rson> UncleNinja: should need a gconf key, what are you trying to do?
[23:25] <Starminn> azizLIGHTS: And this won't work why?
[23:26] <Starminn> azizLIGHTS: I just tried it with my own site and it downloaded all but like two images.
[23:26] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: Be more specific
[23:26] <azizLIGHTS> that save the index.html page ... i want the linked files in index.html page
[23:26] <UncleNinja> a_p3rson: I set my compiz virtual desktops to 32x32 like a moron and now whenever i log into gnome it freezes. I have access to a terminal though.
[23:26] <jonthue_> i just  bought a hp 3050 printer but cant find the drivers and hplip is having problems installing
[23:26] <Diverdude> Does there exist a free tool for linux which can annotate pdf documents?
[23:27] <a_p3rson> UncleNinja: well you get +1 fail, lemme look
[23:27] <erUSUL> !info pdfedit
[23:27] <Starminn> azizLIGHTS: Oh! You mean hyperlinks? I was thinking in terms of PHP and such. So hyperlinks is what you mean?
[23:27] <azizLIGHTS> i think so
[23:27] <minimec> jonthue_: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10274795
[23:28] <minimec> jonthue_: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10301031&postcount=9
[23:29] <Starminn> azizLIGHTS: Two things, actually. 1.) This is not pertaining directly to Ubuntu support so it should be asked in #ubuntu-offtopic and 2.) Specify whether you want includes/requires or hyperlinks because right now I do not understand what you are asking. Be more specific please and perhaps somebody can help better. (After joining the off-topic channel)
[23:29] <a_p3rson> UncleNinja: /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/hsize and /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/vsize
[23:29] <a_p3rson> and dont be a moron...
[23:30] <jonthue_> i try to install hplip but could not install the depen
[23:30] <jonthue_> it keeps saying code 100
[23:30] <manuel_> how do i unmaxmize in natty?
[23:31] <jrib> !natty | manuel_
[23:31] <KM0201> !natty | manuel_
[23:31] <manuel_> !natty
[23:31] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[23:32] <a_p3rson> holy shit what was that?
[23:32] <Starminn> a_p3rson read what ubottu said
[23:32] <KM0201> !netsplit > a_p3rson
[23:32] <a_p3rson> oh ok...
[23:33] <Starminn> Haha, I loved your reastion though. :) (just a random side thought)
[23:34] <a_p3rson> well considering that pidgin decided it needed to announce that netsplit was an incoming message directed to me, ya my ears hurt now...
[23:34] <a_p3rson> sound * 1000
[23:34] <jonthue_> hplip keeps giving meerror: command failed with error code 100
[23:35] <Starminn> a_p3rson I learned quickly to disable sounds in this channel. :)
[23:35] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: before i ask about your problem, do you have another open irc connection to this channel? if so id be nice if you could disconnect it
[23:36] <Jezzz_> on install ubuntu prompts you to generate a crypt key and write it down in case you have to manually recover your encrypted home data
[23:36] <jonthue_> no
[23:36] <a_p3rson> Starminn: i do, except incoming message which it derp'd on and played the noise 1000 times over
[23:36] <jonthue_> just this irc
[23:36] <Jezzz_> I need to tell ubuntu to generate that key again for me so I an write it down
[23:36] <Jezzz_> how do I do that
[23:36] <cfchris6_> I have a box running lucid doing dhcp on multiple interfaces. How can I pass the dhcpclient a different configuration/handler for each interface?
[23:36] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: (ok sorry just noticed someone else has the same name w/o an _ ) what is hplip?
[23:37] <jonthue_> same name? lol
[23:38] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: what is hplip?
[23:38] <now3d> Hello. Is there an easy way to remove the "encryption" offered for a user when the account is creatged?
[23:38] <now3d> a_p3rson: HP printer driver software
[23:38] <jonthue_> hplip is a program that they tell me to use for hp printer driver
[23:38] <Starminn> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html <- HPLIP
[23:38] <rami1983> how to open rar files in ubuntu?
[23:39] <hippytaf1> now3d: why do you want to get rid of encryption?
[23:39] <erUSUL> !rar | rami1983
[23:39] <now3d> rami1983: insall unrar
[23:39] <UncleNinja> a_p3rson: Thank you! Ran this and it fixed it! http://paste.ubuntu.com/568949/
[23:40] <Jezzz_> On install ubuntu prompts you to generate a crypt key and write it down in case you have to manually recover your encrypted home data.   I need to tell ubuntu to generate that key again for me so I can write it down.  How do I do that?
[23:40] <a_p3rson> UncleNinja: no problem. dont derp up compiz again (if you have CCSM it has the crash protection addon to keep that from happening)
[23:40] <now3d> hippytaf1: I realised I did not need encryption, and I back up files to USB stick with no encryption each day anyway..
[23:40] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: printer model?
[23:40] <jonthue_> 3050
[23:41] <hippytaf1> now3d: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1258294
[23:41] <aroman> hello, does anyone know how to change the "You may wish.." text as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/6yOIE.png In ubiquity? I've been ripping through its source tree looking for it, but i can't find it. Thanks :)
[23:41] <brandon420> how can i burn a 120p rip (mkv) to a dvd5 and it play in a normal dvdplayer?
[23:41] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: deskjet or laserjet? and is it 3050 or 3050z?
[23:42] <erUSUL> !info devede
[23:42] <jonthue_> dkesjet 3050 not 3050z
[23:42] <jonthue_> deskjet*
[23:42] <rami1983> now3d: thanks, it worked
[23:42] <now3d> hippytaf1: does it actually encrypt $HOME? or just the $HOME/Private folder?
[23:42] <a_p3rson> ok
[23:42] <now3d> rami1983: ;)
[23:43] <a_p3rson> is this a network printer?
[23:43] <epimeth> hi all... my mic isn't workin
[23:43] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: is this a network printer?
[23:43] <jonthue_> this printer is a all in one
[23:43] <jonthue_> yes it has wifi
[23:43] <Starminn> epimeth: Has it worked in the past?
[23:43] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: is that how it is connected?
[23:44] <nagel182> I need help: Yesterday i installed LAMP and it worked. I instaled imagick and mod_rewrite. it worked. Today both of them refuses to work even thought its in the phpinfo()
[23:44] <epimeth> yes, but I haven
[23:44] <jonthue_> that and usb
[23:44] <epimeth> Starminn: yes but I haven't tried it in a while... it might have stopped working when I updated to 10.10
[23:44] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: hmmm
[23:44] <hippytaf1> now3d: not sure - that link - there is code there that should explain everything
[23:44] <jonthue_> when i try to install hplip it cant install the depenceny
[23:45] <a_p3rson> just a guess, try unpluging usb (or turning off wifi if usb is your connection choice)
[23:45] <now3d> jonthue_: I also insgalled similar HP last week, the photosmart. Just click Administration->Printing, and add the printer there (after adding to wifi!)
[23:45] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: how are you trying to install the program?
[23:45] <jonthue_> its not the connection with the printer its installing hplip depency
[23:45] <a_p3rson> now3d: this one needs non-standard drivers
[23:45] <rami1983> another question. i've uninstalled brasero but the update manager keeps asking me if i want to update it. is it possible that the program is not entirely  removed?
[23:46] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: how are you installing through the terminal?
[23:46] <jonthue_> would i need to install the driver?
[23:46] <now3d> a_p3rson: are you sure? hplip should support it. Whcih function print/copy has a problme?
[23:46] <Starminn> epimeth: Yes, that could be. You could also try this, though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238820
[23:46] <jonthue_> by the instructions on this site http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[23:46] <a_p3rson> rami1983: use synaptic to search and see if a brasero dependency is left on there
[23:46] <nagel182> today i installed mod_expires and mod_headers for apache and xdebug for PHP
[23:47] <jonthue_> i tried 4 times and it keeps giving my code 100 failed to install the depen
[23:47] <njbair> so for some reason all the black on my screen is being replaced with the last thing I looked at in Flash. Any ideas why?
[23:47] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: how far are you getting?
[23:48] <jonthue_> to installing the packages
[23:48] <Starminn> jonthue_: You could also try this: http://superuser.com/questions/210011/hplip-package-is-broken-on-ubuntu maybe? (Others read it and see if it seems logical, please)
[23:48] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: step number plz
[23:49] <epimeth> Starminn: thanks, looking there now
[23:49] <a_p3rson> Starminn: good call, thats a problem
[23:49] <apogee_> i have my raid mounted now  how do i access it...
[23:49] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to change the behavior of the Fn key? For instance, make it a toggle button, or always start with it "pressed"? My notebook has the F1, F2, etc. keys as Function keys, and that annoys me
[23:49] <rami1983> a_p3rson: u are right. there were some leftovers. i thought the ubuntu software manager removed it completely
[23:49] <Jordan_U> njbair: Souds like a bug in hardware video overlay.
[23:50] <apogee_> how can i chmod the permissions to a mounted HDD  whats the address supposed to be
[23:50] <Jordan_U> njbair: Can you try posting a screenshot?
[23:50] <nagel182> I need help: Yesterday i installed LAMP and it worked. I instaled imagick and mod_rewrite. it worked. Today both of them refuses to work even thought its in the phpinfo()
[23:50] <nagel182> today i installed mod_expires and mod_headers for apache and xdebug for PHP
[23:50] <nagel182> please help
[23:50] <jonthue_> download and run cd desktop and shhplip-3.11.run
[23:50] <hippytaf1> apgee: try cd'ing
[23:50] <a_p3rson> rami1983: in the future, you can use computer-janitor-gtk to check for leftover dependencies
[23:50] <njbair> Jordan_U: jas
[23:51] <jonthue_> 2nd is to verify distro
[23:51] <apogee_> cding to what though
[23:51] <jonthue_> 4th root pw
[23:51] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: no no no, what step number do you get stuck on
[23:51] <jonthue_> 9
[23:51] <jonthue_> after download
[23:52] <apogee_> the mount is called /RAID/media
[23:52] <hippytaf1> apgee: have you checked fs
[23:52] <apogee_> whats fs
[23:52] <njbair> Jordan_U: the overlay doesn't show up in the screenshot (well it does on my screen, but not as part of the file)
[23:52] <hippytaf1> apgee: so try chmod 774(or whatever) .RAID/media
[23:52] <poss> good morrow merry gentlefolk, may I request the indulegence of your fineselves in the solving of a ubuntuous riddle that has oft beffudled me?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> njbair: That's actually what I expected.
[23:52] <Diverdude> hmmm its not possible to annotate in pdfedit it seems :(
[23:52] <hippytaf1> poss: very poetick
[23:53] <hippytaf1> ck
[23:53] <Starminn> poss: Go for it, buddy. :)
[23:53]  * drc checks to see if poss is from Nigeria
[23:53] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: do you have another package manager running?
[23:53] <njbair> Jordan_U: when you say "hardware bug" do you mean I need to reconfigure something, or I need to replace the card?
[23:53] <jonthue_> non
[23:53] <jonthue_> nope
[23:53] <now3d> bye all
[23:53] <poss> well, my cd/dvd drive doesn't seem to recognise blank discs, it just thinks they are whatever was last put in the drive. Is this normal?
[23:54] <hippytaf1> apgee: any luck
[23:54] <hippytaf1> noe3d: night dude
[23:54] <poss> it is making the burning of a new live cd rather troublesome
[23:54] <Jordan_U> njbair: Just reconfigure something most likely, though I'm not sure yet what/how.
[23:54] <hippytaf1> poss: I had that, and rebooting sorted it
[23:54] <hippytaf1> a pain in the proverbial, but it works
[23:54] <nagel182> I need help: Yesterday i installed LAMP and it worked. I instaled imagick and mod_rewrite. it worked. Today both of them refuses to work even thought its in the phpinfo()
[23:54] <nagel182> today i installed mod_expires and mod_headers for apache and xdebug for PHP
[23:54] <nagel182> please help
[23:55] <apogee_> hippytaf1> that diddnt work
[23:55] <poss> well I have rebooted most frequently and yet the problem persists, however, in the interests of troubleshooting I will now attempt to do so again, see you again upon the resumtion of activities
[23:55] <apogee_> chmod: cannot access `.RAID/media': No such file or directory
[23:56] <hippytaf1> apgee: external drives use uuids rather than /dev/dsx
[23:56] <apogee_> it isnt external drive
[23:56] <hippytaf1> maybe look at your fstab
[23:56] <njbair> what's with that poss dude
[23:56] <hippytaf1> apgee: just raid?
[23:57] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: http://superuser.com/questions/210011/hplip-package-is-broken-on-ubuntu
[23:57] <apogee_> yah
[23:57] <apogee_> Disk /dev/md0: 4488.9 GB
[23:58] <jonthue_> so i got to change the holder right
[23:58] <jonthue_> folder*
[23:58] <nagel182> I need help: Yesterday i installed LAMP and it worked. I instaled imagick and mod_rewrite. it worked. Today both of them refuses to work even thought its in the phpinfo()
[23:58] <nagel182> today i installed mod_expires and mod_headers for apache and xdebug for PHP
[23:58] <nagel182> please help
[23:59] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: yes, but im noticing that i cant open the text file, but ya, change the folders in the script
[23:59] <a_p3rson> !info lamp
[23:59] <jonthue_> just rename the file ok