[01:07] <ailo_at> paultag: Feeling any better? I'm having a lot of problems coding. I get there, but ever so slowly.
[01:16] <paultag> ailo_at: yeah, a bit. What's up? I'd be way more then happy to help
[01:16] <paultag> ailo_at: have a path to checkout? I think I lost the URL
[01:18] <ailo_at> paultag: git://gitorious.org/ubuntustudio-controls/ubuntustudio-controls.git
[01:19] <ailo_at> paultag: The original controls is in a folder. 0.47-resource
[01:19] <paultag> cheers, let me check it out in a moment ailo_at, just getting sushi now. It's cloning to my desktop, I won't forget it
[01:21] <ailo_at> paultag: Great. Let me know what you need or if you have any questions. I've tried to keep it somewhat orderly.
[01:22] <paultag> righto!
[01:33] <ailo_at> paultag: I'm probably not able to do anything for a couple of days on the code. I need to learn some things first. I'm going to work my way through the basics and get more acquainted with pyGTK, before I add anything more.
[01:34] <ailo_at> So, feel free to do what you want with it
[04:26] <paultag> ailo_at: sweet! You've hacked a ton in :)
[04:26] <paultag> ailo_at: btw, you're using natty, arn't you?
[04:26] <paultag> I've had to tweek that glade back to 2.22 manually ;)
[04:27] <ailo_at> paultag: Oh, never thought about that. 
[04:27] <paultag> ailo_at: it's for natty
[04:27] <paultag> ailo_at: it's totally cool :)
[04:27] <paultag> ailo_at: until we want to backport, in which case we can roll a delta
[04:28] <paultag> ailo_at: this looks really awesome. I'm going to go through and cut some fat (old code) out, and push
[04:34] <scott-upstairs> sounds like you two are making progress :)
[04:35] <paultag> scott-upstairs: yup :)
[04:35] <paultag> scott-upstairs: what was all that to do with docmo? 
[04:35] <ailo_at> I would have done more, but my skills are not that great yet. It was good to get that far. Need to learn Python a lot better.
[04:35] <paultag> ailo_at: it's all easy from here on out
[04:39] <ScottL> paultag, i'm trying to entice some people to help with art
[04:40] <ScottL> i noticed some people are quiting the art team and thought, "hmmm, strike when the iron's hot!"
[04:40] <ScottL> but seriously, they were complaining about someone on the team
[04:41] <paultag> ah
[04:41] <ScottL> and i thought, maybe we could lure them over here by asking if anyone wants to help develop a small, collaborative group to work on art
[04:41] <ScottL> but i wanted doctormo's opinion if it would be taken wrong or predatory ;)
[04:41] <ScottL> paultag, did you know that doctormo was working on a package for bamboo tablets?
[04:42] <paultag> yes
[04:42] <paultag> he has photos of mine :)
[04:42] <paultag> for icons and such
[04:42] <ScottL> did you know that he's having a wee bit of trouble with it?
[04:42] <paultag> yes, I did
[04:42] <ailo_at> I did some work on pimping the Ambience theme http://imagebin.org/138532
[04:42] <ScottL> that's looking good ailo_at  :)
[04:43] <ScottL> if we had some customized icons to supplement it then it would look even better :)
[04:43] <ailo_at> The folders are recolored Humanity. Other than that, I've just changed the colors on the theme
[04:43] <ailo_at> And the panel icons are the wrong sort: light
[04:44] <ScottL> i played around with the dark ambience theme that i linked earlier and i still had the xchat icon like you...
[04:44] <ScottL> which looked so...wrong
[04:45] <ScottL> at least contrasted with the rest of the theme, being all dark and grey :)
[04:46] <ScottL> bollocks, i'm tired but the boy is still awake :(
[04:46] <ailo_at> That icon doesn't have a custom version, but it's not hard to do Mono style versions I think
[04:47] <ailo_at> Since they are mostly grey/white
[04:47] <ailo_at> Just copy that one, and recolor it. Recolor the text too.
[04:50] <ailo_at> My plan was to use the Mono/Humanity theme as a base. Just change the color and style of the folders, and the arrows. Anything "Humanity" and turn it UbunstuStudio.
[04:51] <ailo_at> I'm not being too serious about it. It's just fun to do it.
[14:37] <scott-work> i've signed up for the ubuntu-artwork mailing list and there really seems to be a lot of schizm
[14:38] <scott-work> i've read about these types of occurances before but they seemed almost like urban legends
[14:38] <scott-work> kinda weird to be seeing it first hand though
[14:43] <scott-work> oh, i should point out that i don't believe the schizm is because i signed up for the ubuntu-artwork mailing list :P
[14:48] <ailo_at> scott-work: Seems like they're not very happy over there.
[15:20] <scott-work> ailo_at: i was really hoping to entice some of them to help us and they could recreate their group with ubuntu studio, but alas, it doesn't look like anyone is interested :(
[15:23] <ailo_at> scott-work: Only been a few hours since you posted ;). 
[15:24] <scott-work> well, yeah, that's true...but i felt like the opportunity would be there while they were still emotional and upset :P
[15:24] <scott-work> the longer they wait the longer probably wouldn't want to make the change
[15:25] <scott-work> ailo_at: i'm going to feature you in my next blog post next week
[15:25] <scott-work> i talked a bit about alessio and holstein in this week's post
[15:26] <ailo_at> It would be nice if someone with experience would want to chip in with the artwork. Feature me? What an honor.
[15:34] <scott-work> autostatic turned me on to this post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1683067
[15:35] <scott-work> it's most disappointing that someone extrapolates their singular experience into a complete failure for linux audio :(
[15:43] <ailo_at> I can understand the frustration from new users. I've had my share of problems setting up a system suitable for lowlatency audio. Two harddisks failed at once (mystery), with some distros I could not shut down the computer, there was some problem with my pci usb2 cards (irq, I think), network problems....BUT, when I get it working, it works. And there's nothing that can substitute the feeling of running an open source OS.
[15:44] <ailo_at> (not that other OS's don't have problems)..