| Phatsta | rlameiro: thanks, I needed that. It's finally done though. Only 5 hours later. | 00:01 |
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| rlameiro | Phatsta: 5 hours... wow, you really have patience :D | 00:05 |
| holstein | Phatsta: http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html | 00:20 |
| holstein | im not a big MIDI guy | 00:21 |
| holstein | but i have heard great things :) | 00:21 |
| Phatsta | looks okay, but there are no audio channels? | 01:01 |
| holstein | Phatsta: should be | 01:03 |
| holstein | doesnt have automation | 01:03 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 01:03 |
| Phatsta | looks like cubase almost | 01:03 |
| holstein | hmmm, i'll give you that :) | 01:03 |
| Phatsta | :) | 01:04 |
| virtu | hello =) | 02:01 |
| virtu | in august go to USA | 02:01 |
| virtu | =) | 02:01 |
| holstein | nice virtu | 02:01 |
| holstein | where? | 02:01 |
| virtu | will arive in Philadelphia, them go to NY and after down to Disney | 02:01 |
| virtu | 08/01 to 08/17 | 02:02 |
| virtu | arrive | 02:02 |
| holstein | nice | 02:02 |
| virtu | now have to get my pass and visa | 02:02 |
| holstein | that'll be fun | 02:02 |
| virtu | got this travel by AA at U$318 | 02:02 |
| holstein | you on tour? | 02:02 |
| holstein | w0w | 02:02 |
| virtu | vacations time | 02:03 |
| holstein | thats resonable | 02:03 |
| virtu | holstein: very very nice deal | 02:03 |
| virtu | very cheap the ticket | 02:03 |
| virtu | the sales started at midnight | 02:04 |
| virtu | and had luck to check some deals sites that are showing this promo | 02:04 |
| virtu | holstein: my last video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G-J18xYV48 | 02:19 |
| grotek | Hallo :) | 11:47 |
| grotek | Kann man im /usr/share ordner NUR über rootrechte was ändern ? | 11:47 |
| AutoStatic | Yes | 11:48 |
| AutoStatic | Only root can change files there | 11:48 |
| grotek | thx :) | 11:48 |
| grotek | :-O wrong channel xD | 11:48 |
| AutoStatic | But most programs also look in your home folder | 11:48 |
| AutoStatic | the .local directory | 11:48 |
| AutoStatic | So if you put anything in $HOME/.local/share big chance it will work too | 11:49 |
| grotek | i want to update some patch/banks to ZynaddSubFX ... | 11:51 |
| bodisiw_ | hi, just installed ubuntu studio on a laptop, now it appears my wireless card is working, at least i can see broadcasted SSIDs, yet somehow it refuses to actually join anything... any ideas? | 15:21 |
| holstein | bodisiw_: well thats progress | 16:05 |
| holstein | did you install the network manger? | 16:07 |
| holstein | if you can 'wire-up' | 16:07 |
| holstein | to internet | 16:07 |
| holstein | and sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome | 16:08 |
| holstein | try that out | 16:08 |
| bodisiw_ | holstein, yeah, i installed network manager | 17:20 |
| holstein | bodisiw_: whats the error? | 17:20 |
| bodisiw_ | ive got the nm-applet or whatever | 17:20 |
| holstein | you see ssid's | 17:20 |
| holstein | in the nm-applet | 17:20 |
| holstein | and you click on them | 17:21 |
| holstein | put in wpa or whatever | 17:21 |
| holstein | and what happens? | 17:21 |
| bodisiw_ | yeah, using the applet i see ssid's, then i click one, two green circles spin for a while, then it fails and goes back to a red x | 17:21 |
| holstein | mulitple AP's? | 17:21 |
| bodisiw_ | maybe i can use a cli command to find out the problem | 17:21 |
| holstein | youve tested on multiple AP's? | 17:21 |
| bodisiw_ | yeah, there are multiple APs listed... i select one of them | 17:21 |
| bodisiw_ | yeah, ive tested multiple | 17:21 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:22 |
| bodisiw_ | they all fail | 17:22 |
| holstein | well, i had a broadcom chip | 17:22 |
| holstein | have* | 17:22 |
| holstein | on a mininote | 17:22 |
| holstein | it would act that way | 17:22 |
| holstein | with a certain driver | 17:22 |
| holstein | with a certain kernel | 17:22 |
| holstein | bodisiw_: i would say | 17:22 |
| holstein | wire it up | 17:22 |
| holstein | take all updates | 17:22 |
| holstein | reboot | 17:22 |
| bodisiw_ | done it several times | 17:22 |
| holstein | see if its the same | 17:22 |
| holstein | then | 17:22 |
| holstein | try a differet driver | 17:22 |
| holstein | if there is one | 17:22 |
| holstein | if not | 17:23 |
| holstein | run lspci | 17:23 |
| holstein | get the network card | 17:23 |
| holstein | and start searching around | 17:23 |
| bodisiw_ | im using the broadcom low power lpphy | 17:23 |
| holstein | you dont need to search 'ubuntustudio' | 17:23 |
| bodisiw_ | okay, maybe ill go to regular ubuntu channel | 17:23 |
| holstein | you can broaden your search a bit | 17:23 |
| holstein | bodisiw_: try #ubuntu-beginners | 17:23 |
| holstein | or maybe your loco channel | 17:24 |
| bodisiw_ | id just like to know why connecting to the ap fails | 17:24 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/ | 17:24 |
| holstein | bodisiw_: thats what was happening with one driver or the other | 17:24 |
| holstein | when my broadcom chip | 17:24 |
| holstein | with* | 17:24 |
| holstein | same behavior | 17:24 |
| holstein | if im right | 17:25 |
| holstein | the driver is just not able to fully talk to the device | 17:25 |
| holstein | bbl.. | 17:28 |
| bartje | hello all | 19:54 |
| bartje | eum, how can I connect my alsa midi to jack midi when I use freebob? | 20:01 |
| holstein | bartje: hey | 20:23 |
| bartje | hey holstein | 20:23 |
| holstein | a2jmidid is what you need | 20:24 |
| holstein | apt-get it | 20:24 |
| holstein | and run it from the command line | 20:24 |
| holstein | when JACK is running | 20:24 |
| holstein | and you should see what you need to patch :) | 20:24 |
| bartje | ah :-), I only get a midi through | 20:25 |
| bartje | but perhaps I have to add some options | 20:25 |
| holstein | through is the deal | 20:26 |
| holstein | that'll work | 20:26 |
| holstein | OR thats how i do it * | 20:26 |
| holstein | i use the through to pass the data between the tabs | 20:26 |
| bartje | ah, ok, I have no experience with midi through, but doesn't it cause trouble having one port, and two midi isntruments? | 20:27 |
| holstein | bartje: im not sure | 20:28 |
| holstein | let me refer you to #opensourcemusicians | 20:28 |
| holstein | more MIDI folk over there | 20:28 |
| holstein | you might be able to run another instance of a2jmidid | 20:29 |
| holstein | for all i know | 20:29 |
| ailo_at | bartje: No problem as long as the midi devices are set on different channels | 20:29 |
| ailo_at | set to* | 20:29 |
| * holstein face palms | 20:29 | |
| holstein | of course | 20:29 |
| holstein | that makes sense now | 20:30 |
| holstein | i forget how MIDI works with channels | 20:30 |
| ailo_at | bartje: Or you want to connect one midi hardware device to two soft instruments? | 20:30 |
| bartje | no, I have a keyboard and a digital drum | 20:30 |
| ailo_at | bartje: Just set one of them to another channel. They are both likely using ch 1. | 20:31 |
| ailo_at | Then make sure the software is set to pick up that channel | 20:31 |
| bartje | wow, it does make things way more complicated | 20:32 |
| ailo_at | bartje: It's the old way of doing things. | 20:32 |
| ailo_at | Chaining devices. Usually you would do that if you were running several drum machines | 20:32 |
| bartje | yes, but why not simply patching the midi channels, existing in alsa, to jack, instead of using a midi through? | 20:33 |
| ailo_at | If you have the keyboard always set to ch2, just set input channel to ch2 on the software you use with the keyboard | 20:33 |
| bartje | Then i don't have to reconfigure my devices | 20:33 |
| ailo_at | The patching is not related to midi channels. | 20:33 |
| ailo_at | You can patch the through to all software, just set the software to pick up the midi channel you want it to | 20:34 |
| ailo_at | Every patch port, is a port with 16 midi channels | 20:34 |
| ailo_at | Maybe I'm explaining badly? | 20:37 |
| bartje | let's start from the beginning, so running a2jmidid I created a midi through port in the midi tab of jack. I then need to connect the midi through to midisport in the alsa tab? | 20:38 |
| dawiba | I think you only need to run a2jmidid if you're trying to connect a firewire device. | 20:40 |
| bartje | that's exactly what I have, lol, a firewire device | 20:40 |
| dawiba | Sorry, I didn't realise the midisport was firewire | 20:41 |
| ailo_at | bartje: First start jack, then a2jmidid. Do you see two ports in "jack" tab | 20:41 |
| bartje | no, midisport is usb, but my audio is firewire | 20:41 |
| ailo_at | Ah, you're using midisport? | 20:41 |
| ailo_at | Then you don't need jack midi | 20:41 |
| bartje | yep I do, since I load the freebob driver, there is no midi port in the midi tab | 20:42 |
| ailo_at | alsa tab is the midi tab for alsa midi | 20:42 |
| bartje | yes, but some software don't provide midi outs for alsa. | 20:43 |
| bartje | only for jack | 20:43 |
| ailo_at | which ones? | 20:43 |
| bartje | right now I was testing ardour 3 | 20:43 |
| ailo_at | There's also j2amidid I think | 20:43 |
| ailo_at | Or os there? | 20:44 |
| ailo_at | is* | 20:44 |
| dawiba | Ardour will only give you midi outs for controlling other midi gear/programs | 20:44 |
| dawiba | These should be in the alsa tab | 20:45 |
| bartje | *sigh ardour 3 has midi sequencing support, but still is in pre beta, go check it out | 20:45 |
| dawiba | My apologies. Good Luck :-) | 20:46 |
| ailo_at | bartje: And you are uding a midi driver with jack? | 20:46 |
| ailo_at | using* | 20:46 |
| bartje | no, midi is usb, so when using a firewire driver, I loose my midi in jack, that's my point | 20:47 |
| ailo_at | To use jack midi you'll need to choose a driver for it in qjackctl settings (if you're using that) | 20:48 |
| bartje | when selecting freebob, it's grayed out | 20:48 |
| ailo_at | Oh. ok | 20:48 |
| bartje | I know, options are, seq, raw or none, but it's grayed out, I can't pick | 20:49 |
| ailo_at | I don't have firewire myself, so I don't know how that works. Did you try the firewire driver? | 20:49 |
| bartje | firewire, freebob, yes | 20:49 |
| bartje | otherwise i can't get my firewire audiocard running :-) | 20:50 |
| ailo_at | Yeah, but "firewire" as in firewire, not "freebob". | 20:50 |
| dawiba | Can I ask why you're using Freebob? There is a 'Firewire' option in Jack's settings (that's what I use) | 20:50 |
| bartje | yes, I do all the time now, works better then freebob | 20:50 |
| holstein | yeah, freebob was nice though | 20:50 |
| holstein | back in the day :) | 20:50 |
| ailo_at | holstein: You get jack midi automatically with the firewire driver? Seems logical | 20:52 |
| ailo_at | Cause, bartje, I think what you need to do is start jack first with firewire, then a2jmidi. Then ardour 3. | 20:53 |
| ailo_at | And you should see alsa through and ardour in jack midi, no? | 20:54 |
| bartje | yep, that works now, but is not ideal I think. | 20:54 |
| ailo_at | bartje: I think that's simply because alsa and jack midi are different. You should not be any more restricted than using only alsa. | 20:55 |
| holstein | ailo_at: i think so | 20:56 |
| holstein | i dont have any MIDI devices to test with | 20:56 |
| holstein | i think Blank__ said the firepod has MIDI support | 20:56 |
| holstein | with that driver | 20:57 |
| holstein | out of the box | 20:57 |
| ailo_at | Yeah, I think most supported firewire devices have midi support, and only jack midi. | 20:57 |
| bartje | yes indeed, my audiofire12 has a midi port, but is not recognised in jack | 20:58 |
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