[00:01] <Phatsta> rlameiro: thanks, I needed that. It's finally done though. Only 5 hours later.
[00:05] <rlameiro> Phatsta: 5 hours... wow, you really have patience :D
[00:20] <holstein> Phatsta: http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html
[00:21] <holstein> im not a big MIDI guy
[00:21] <holstein> but i have heard great things :)
[01:01] <Phatsta> looks okay, but there are no audio channels?
[01:03] <holstein> Phatsta: should be
[01:03] <holstein> doesnt have automation
[01:03] <holstein> AFAIK
[01:03] <Phatsta> looks like cubase almost
[01:03] <holstein> hmmm, i'll give you that :)
[01:04] <Phatsta> :)
[02:01] <virtu> hello =)
[02:01] <virtu> in august go to USA
[02:01] <virtu> =)
[02:01] <holstein> nice virtu
[02:01] <holstein> where?
[02:01] <virtu> will arive in Philadelphia, them go to NY and after down to Disney
[02:02] <virtu> 08/01 to 08/17
[02:02] <virtu> arrive
[02:02] <holstein> nice
[02:02] <virtu> now have to get my pass and visa
[02:02] <holstein> that'll be fun
[02:02] <virtu> got this travel by AA at U$318
[02:02] <holstein> you on tour?
[02:02] <holstein> w0w
[02:03] <virtu> vacations time
[02:03] <holstein> thats resonable
[02:03] <virtu> holstein: very very nice deal
[02:03] <virtu> very cheap the ticket
[02:04] <virtu> the sales started at midnight
[02:04] <virtu> and had luck to check some deals sites that are showing this promo
[02:19] <virtu> holstein: my last video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G-J18xYV48
[11:47] <grotek> Hallo :)
[11:47] <grotek> Kann man im /usr/share ordner NUR über rootrechte was ändern ?
[11:48] <AutoStatic> Yes
[11:48] <AutoStatic> Only root can change files there
[11:48] <grotek> thx :)
[11:48] <grotek> :-O wrong channel xD
[11:48] <AutoStatic> But most programs also look in your home folder
[11:48] <AutoStatic> the .local directory
[11:49] <AutoStatic> So if you put anything in $HOME/.local/share big chance it will work too
[11:51] <grotek> i want to update some patch/banks to ZynaddSubFX ...
[15:21] <bodisiw_> hi, just installed ubuntu studio on a laptop, now it appears my wireless card is working, at least i can see broadcasted SSIDs, yet somehow it refuses to actually join anything... any ideas?
[16:05] <holstein> bodisiw_: well thats progress
[16:07] <holstein> did you install the network manger?
[16:07] <holstein> if you can 'wire-up'
[16:07] <holstein> to internet
[16:08] <holstein> and sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[16:08] <holstein> try that out
[17:20] <bodisiw_> holstein, yeah, i installed network manager
[17:20] <holstein> bodisiw_: whats the error?
[17:20] <bodisiw_> ive got the nm-applet or whatever
[17:20] <holstein> you see ssid's
[17:20] <holstein> in the nm-applet
[17:21] <holstein> and you click on them
[17:21] <holstein> put in wpa or whatever
[17:21] <holstein> and what happens?
[17:21] <bodisiw_> yeah, using the applet i see ssid's, then i click one, two green circles spin for a while, then it fails and goes back to a red x
[17:21] <holstein> mulitple AP's?
[17:21] <bodisiw_> maybe i can use a cli command to find out the problem
[17:21] <holstein> youve tested on multiple AP's?
[17:21] <bodisiw_> yeah, there are multiple APs listed... i select one of them
[17:21] <bodisiw_> yeah, ive tested multiple
[17:22] <holstein> hmmm
[17:22] <bodisiw_> they all fail
[17:22] <holstein> well, i had a broadcom chip
[17:22] <holstein> have*
[17:22] <holstein> on a mininote
[17:22] <holstein> it would act that way
[17:22] <holstein> with a certain driver
[17:22] <holstein> with a certain kernel
[17:22] <holstein> bodisiw_: i would say
[17:22] <holstein> wire it up
[17:22] <holstein> take all updates
[17:22] <holstein> reboot
[17:22] <bodisiw_> done it several times
[17:22] <holstein> see if its the same
[17:22] <holstein> then
[17:22] <holstein> try a differet driver
[17:22] <holstein> if there is one
[17:23] <holstein> if not
[17:23] <holstein> run lspci
[17:23] <holstein> get the network card
[17:23] <holstein> and start searching around
[17:23] <bodisiw_> im using the broadcom low power lpphy
[17:23] <holstein> you dont need to search 'ubuntustudio'
[17:23] <bodisiw_> okay, maybe ill go to regular ubuntu channel
[17:23] <holstein> you can broaden your search a bit
[17:23] <holstein> bodisiw_: try #ubuntu-beginners
[17:24] <holstein> or maybe your loco channel
[17:24] <bodisiw_> id just like to know why connecting to the ap fails
[17:24] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[17:24] <holstein> bodisiw_: thats what was happening with one driver or the other
[17:24] <holstein> when my broadcom chip
[17:24] <holstein> with*
[17:24] <holstein> same behavior
[17:25] <holstein> if im right
[17:25] <holstein> the driver is just not able to fully talk to the device
[17:28] <holstein> bbl..
[19:54] <bartje> hello all
[20:01] <bartje> eum, how can I connect my alsa midi to jack midi when I use freebob?
[20:23] <holstein> bartje: hey
[20:23] <bartje> hey holstein
[20:24] <holstein> a2jmidid is what you need
[20:24] <holstein> apt-get it
[20:24] <holstein> and run it from the command line
[20:24] <holstein> when JACK is running
[20:24] <holstein> and you should see what you need to patch :)
[20:25] <bartje> ah :-), I only get a midi through
[20:25] <bartje> but perhaps I have to add some options
[20:26] <holstein> through is the deal
[20:26] <holstein> that'll work
[20:26] <holstein> OR thats how i do it *
[20:26] <holstein> i use the through to pass the data between the tabs
[20:27] <bartje> ah, ok, I have no experience with midi through, but doesn't it cause trouble having one port, and two midi isntruments?
[20:28] <holstein> bartje: im not sure
[20:28] <holstein> let me refer you to #opensourcemusicians
[20:28] <holstein> more MIDI folk over there
[20:29] <holstein> you might be able to run another instance of a2jmidid
[20:29] <holstein> for all i know
[20:29] <ailo_at> bartje: No problem as long as the midi devices are set on different channels
[20:29] <ailo_at> set to*
[20:29]  * holstein face palms
[20:29] <holstein> of course
[20:30] <holstein> that makes sense now
[20:30] <holstein> i forget how MIDI works with channels
[20:30] <ailo_at> bartje: Or you want to connect one midi hardware device to two soft instruments?
[20:30] <bartje> no, I have a keyboard and a digital drum
[20:31] <ailo_at> bartje: Just set one of them to another channel. They are both likely using ch 1.
[20:31] <ailo_at> Then make sure the software is set to pick up that channel
[20:32] <bartje> wow, it does make things way more complicated
[20:32] <ailo_at> bartje: It's the old way of doing things.
[20:32] <ailo_at> Chaining devices. Usually you would do that if you were running several drum machines
[20:33] <bartje> yes, but why not simply patching the midi channels, existing in alsa, to jack, instead of using a midi through?
[20:33] <ailo_at> If you have the keyboard always set to ch2, just set input channel to ch2 on the software you use with the keyboard
[20:33] <bartje> Then i don't have to reconfigure my devices
[20:33] <ailo_at> The patching is not related to midi channels.
[20:34] <ailo_at> You can patch the through to all software, just set the software to pick up the midi channel you want it to
[20:34] <ailo_at> Every patch port, is a port with 16 midi channels
[20:37] <ailo_at> Maybe I'm explaining badly?
[20:38] <bartje> let's start from the beginning, so running a2jmidid I created a midi through port in the midi tab of jack. I then need to connect the midi through to midisport in the alsa tab?
[20:40] <dawiba> I think you only need to run a2jmidid if you're trying to connect a firewire device.
[20:40] <bartje> that's exactly what I have, lol, a firewire device
[20:41] <dawiba> Sorry, I didn't realise the midisport was firewire
[20:41] <ailo_at> bartje: First start jack, then a2jmidid. Do you see two ports in "jack" tab
[20:41] <bartje> no, midisport is usb, but my audio is firewire
[20:41] <ailo_at> Ah, you're using midisport?
[20:41] <ailo_at> Then you don't need jack midi
[20:42] <bartje> yep I do, since I load the freebob driver, there is no midi port in the midi tab
[20:42] <ailo_at> alsa tab is the midi tab for alsa midi
[20:43] <bartje> yes, but some software don't provide midi outs for alsa.
[20:43] <bartje> only for jack
[20:43] <ailo_at> which ones?
[20:43] <bartje> right now I was testing ardour 3
[20:43] <ailo_at> There's also j2amidid I think
[20:44] <ailo_at> Or os there?
[20:44] <ailo_at> is*
[20:44] <dawiba> Ardour will only give you midi outs for controlling other midi gear/programs
[20:45] <dawiba> These should be in the alsa tab
[20:45] <bartje> *sigh ardour 3 has midi sequencing support, but still is in pre beta, go check it out
[20:46] <dawiba> My apologies. Good Luck :-)
[20:46] <ailo_at> bartje: And you are uding a midi driver with jack?
[20:46] <ailo_at> using*
[20:47] <bartje> no, midi is usb, so when using a firewire driver, I loose my midi in jack, that's my point
[20:48] <ailo_at> To use jack midi you'll need to choose a driver for it in qjackctl settings (if you're using that)
[20:48] <bartje> when selecting freebob, it's grayed out
[20:48] <ailo_at> Oh. ok
[20:49] <bartje> I know, options are, seq, raw or none, but it's grayed out, I can't pick
[20:49] <ailo_at> I don't have firewire myself, so I don't know how that works. Did you try the firewire driver?
[20:49] <bartje> firewire, freebob, yes
[20:50] <bartje> otherwise i can't get my firewire audiocard running :-)
[20:50] <ailo_at> Yeah, but "firewire" as in firewire, not "freebob".
[20:50] <dawiba> Can I ask why you're using Freebob? There is a 'Firewire' option in Jack's settings (that's what I use)
[20:50] <bartje> yes, I do all the time now, works better then freebob
[20:50] <holstein> yeah, freebob was nice though
[20:50] <holstein> back in the day :)
[20:52] <ailo_at> holstein: You get jack midi automatically with the firewire driver? Seems logical
[20:53] <ailo_at> Cause, bartje, I think what you need to do is start jack first with firewire, then a2jmidi. Then ardour 3.
[20:54] <ailo_at> And you should see alsa through and ardour in jack midi, no?
[20:54] <bartje> yep, that works now, but is not ideal I think.
[20:55] <ailo_at> bartje: I think that's simply because alsa and jack midi are different. You should not be any more restricted than using only alsa.
[20:56] <holstein> ailo_at: i think so
[20:56] <holstein> i dont have any MIDI devices to test with
[20:56] <holstein> i think Blank__ said the firepod has MIDI support
[20:57] <holstein> with that driver
[20:57] <holstein> out of the box
[20:57] <ailo_at> Yeah, I think most supported firewire devices have midi support, and only jack midi.
[20:58] <bartje> yes indeed, my audiofire12 has a midi port, but is not recognised in jack