[00:42] <metroid1> is there a graphical way to edit menus?
[00:44] <metroid1> i tried alacarte but it had no idea what it was doing outside of gnome
[00:51] <n2diy> ok, I have a fresh virgin install of 10.10 on my test box. Now I want to set it up like this box, so how do I get my synaptic marks over to it? I can ping the box, but grsync and gftp are refused connections, along with ssh attempts?
[01:10] <residentgrey> how do you do that 'synaptic marks' stuff?
[01:29] <n2diy> residentgrey, from the synaptic menu /file/save marks
[01:29] <residentgrey> oh and you can load it onto another box and have all your goodies?
[01:30] <residentgrey> hmmm, i can set up a script to save it automatically right?
[01:30] <n2diy> residentgrey, yes, it is a plain text file, the only hassle is, you can't add to it, so I end up with multible files, and cut and paste them together.
[01:31] <n2diy> with a text editor
[01:32] <residentgrey> that can be done by opening a new one, globbing all that gunk into that file right?
[01:32] <residentgrey> by script?
[01:32] <n2diy> residentgrey, I suppose, I just cut and paste with mousepad.
[01:33] <residentgrey> ohok
[01:33] <residentgrey> i am a n00b so thought to ask
[01:33] <n2diy> ah, we're all noobs in one way or another.
[01:34] <n2diy> ok, I have a fresh virgin install of 10.10 on my test box. Now I want to set it up like this box, so how do I get my synaptic marks over to it? I can ping the box, but grsync and gftp are refused connections, along with my ssh attempts?
[02:24] <ball> Is there something I can run to make sure any old packages or libraries are cleared out that are no longer needed?
[02:26] <Unit193> sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:26] <ball> Unit193: Thanks
[02:26] <Unit193> Uninstalling old ones?
[02:27]  * ball nods
[02:28] <ball> I'm running from a 4G flash drive, so I try to keep things minimal
[02:28] <Unit193> Then yep! (I also use apt-get autoclean)
[02:28] <ball> I love how fast Xubuntu is.
[02:29] <ball> I've taken to using it at work for some jobs, though that's controvertial.
[02:30] <Unit193> Use a XP theme and people don't notice ;)
[02:30] <ball> :-)
[02:31] <Unit193> How much faster would you say Xubuntu is then Ubuntu?
[02:32] <ball> Difficult to say without extensive testing.  On many of the machines I work on it *feels* about twice as fast.
[02:35] <Unit193> Sweet! (I was under the impression it wasn't all that much faster :\ )
[02:35] <Unit193> ball: what other light distros have you tried?
[02:36] <ball> Of Linux? I'm not sure. I think I tried a Linux that used OpenBox once, but it had an issue that prevented me using it.
[02:37] <ball> Forget now what it was called.
[02:38] <ball> Over the years I've used SLES (I think, installed from 5.25" floppies), Slackware, Yellow Dog Linux (on a PowerPC iBook) and Ubuntu.
[02:39] <ball> ...and Xubuntu of course.
[02:39] <Unit193> My biggest question is Xubuntu vs Lubuntu :)
[02:40] <Unit193> I have an old PPC I would *love* to get linux/Xubuntu on!
[02:41] <ball> I've never heard of Lubuntu
[02:41] <Unit193> L = LXDE
[02:41] <ball> I've never heard of LXDE
[02:42] <ball> Googling for it now.
[02:42] <ball> Is there a PowerPC port of Xubuntu?
[02:42] <Unit193> Yeah, community only
[02:43] <ball> How do I go about downloading that?
[02:45] <Unit193> I lost the link... can only find lucid
[02:46] <ball> I have a beige G3 here somewhere and I met someone with an old iBook recently too.
[02:47] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/
[02:47] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/10.04/release/
[02:50] <Unit193> ball: If you ever get Xubuntu (or linux) on them old G3s, tell me will ya?
[02:51] <ball> Unit193: I'll let you know how I get on.
[02:54] <lighta> from using both I prefer xubuntu !
[02:54] <lighta> but lxfe not so bad
[02:55] <lighta> mixed up both sound the best for me !
[02:56] <lighta> my lubuntu just didn't have many tool from the start wich annoying, no openoffice, no subversion, no gimp, no usb creator, ...
[02:57] <Unit193> OpenOffice is very heavy! gimp is kinda heavy too
[02:57] <lighta> in other side desktop not so bad and LXTerm nice, onglet tool very usefull
[02:57] <lighta> yeah
[02:57] <lighta> but needed both
[02:58] <Unit193> I have Lubuntu on an old 500MHz 512Ram computer, just forget about FF, OO.o and even chromium is rather slow
[02:59] <lighta> what's FF ? flash ?
[03:00] <Graet|> FireFox usually
[03:01] <lighta> ah ok
[03:01] <lighta> I found Chromium ok for the moment
[03:01] <lighta> are you using w3m then ?
[03:03] <Unit193> Midori
[03:03] <Unit193> it's slow on that computer, but it works
[03:05] <lighta> ok, never tryed this on yet
[03:20] <Unit193> Anyone know why there don't seem to be any 10.10 PPC versions?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> anybody on? other then bots?
[07:24] <Unit193> No
[07:24] <ubuntu_> help with xubuntu install?
[07:25] <Unit193> I'm not sure if I can... but ask?
[07:25] <ubuntu_> Im hung up at "who are you" wont let me go further forward isgreyedout
[07:25] <ubuntu_> sorry  spacebar is shit on this keyboard
[07:26] <bazhang> try all small case
[07:26] <ubuntu_> for computer name or?
[07:26] <bazhang> all names
[07:26] <ubuntu_> I have green dots beside everything...?
[07:26] <ubuntu_> Ill try thanks
[07:28] <ubuntu_> bazhang
[07:28] <ubuntu_> thank you was in username no caps could be used
[07:28] <Unit193> username has to be lower
[07:28] <ubuntu_> thank you
[07:28] <ubuntu_> I see that now and should have remembered that
[07:29] <ubuntu_> can you explain why in simple terms?
[07:29] <bazhang> well known bug
[07:29] <ubuntu_> ah
[07:29] <Unit193> bazhang: Real name or username?
[07:29] <ubuntu_> just simply a bug thats it?
[07:29] <ubuntu_> only on username real name and computer name were allowed
[07:30] <ubuntu_> only onusername.
[07:30] <ubuntu_> thank god this keyboard is temp.
[07:31] <ubuntu_> anyone else using xubuntu 10.10 i386 ?
[14:56] <xubuntu501> hi all
[14:57] <knome> ...hello
[14:59] <lighta> hi
[15:34] <xubuntu980> Oi
[21:24] <radikaalz> hello good folks
[21:26] <Unit193> hello radikaalz!
[21:26] <radikaalz> im new to xubuntu... so i will be hard for me. :D
[21:27] <radikaalz> is there anyone willing help me to connect to wi-fi. Now im using 3g modem
[21:28] <Unit193> I'm SSHing into screen right now, so I can't help...
[21:29] <radikaalz> k
[21:29] <radikaalz> ok, i have few questions
[21:29] <Unit193> Wait for the others or look at the docs/wiki
[21:29] <radikaalz> there is no such thing in xubuntu which detects wireless router automaticly
[21:30] <radikaalz> i need to add my router manually, right?
[21:30] <Unit193> There is, look at the top bar toward the right
[21:30] <knome> radikaalz, nm-applet, but that expects your wireless device must have been detected
[21:32] <radikaalz> yes, there is network manager.. i tried to find something so i can connect. At least i have router SSID and key
[21:32] <radikaalz> but must i add which encryption i have too, or xubuntu detect it?
[21:33] <knome> you have to know the encryption as well, yes
[21:33] <radikaalz> oh
[21:33] <knome> there isn't many choices though
[21:33] <knome> most probably wep or wpa2 personal
[21:34] <radikaalz> ok, lets say its wep
[21:35] <knome> radikaalz, can you see any wireless networks in network manager?
[21:35] <radikaalz> i cant connect to router if he's not detected me
[21:35] <radikaalz> no
[21:36] <knome> are you sure your wireless card is recognised?
[21:36] <radikaalz> yes.. cuz i had wireless with backtrack
[21:36] <radikaalz> on an open router
[21:36] <knome> but you're running xubuntu now?
[21:36] <radikaalz> yeah
[21:37] <radikaalz> ehh.. so i just need specific driver?
[21:37] <knome> i'm not sure if backtrack and xubuntu are completely similar in terms of wireless recognition
[21:37] <knome> what does 'iwconfig' say in terminal?
[21:38] <radikaalz> no wireless extensions
[21:39] <radikaalz> oh, i can't even basic linux bash commands. :/
[21:39] <radikaalz> is there some way how to determine my wireless card?
[21:40] <radikaalz> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 I forgot my wireless cards PCI-ID
[21:42] <radikaalz> anyone?
[21:45] <knome> lspci -vnn ?
[21:45] <radikaalz> yeah
[21:45] <knome> should tell you the pci-id...
[21:45] <radikaalz> i found: mine PCI-ID is [14e4:4727]
[21:46] <knome> says not supported
[21:46] <radikaalz> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[21:46] <knome> mm-hmm
[21:46] <knome> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617380
[21:47] <radikaalz> oh thanks. I'll try, will be back soon :D
[21:49] <Sysi> broadcom is one of the issues i still have about getting macbook air :/
[21:50] <Sysi> i can use restricted nvidia driver and patch kernel for trackpad but i'd want my wifi to be actually trustworthy
[21:55] <radikaalz> oh.. i get tired. There nothing happening after i copy command: git clone git://git.ke.. bla bla bla
[21:57] <radikaalz> it will take a weekend for me to set up wireless :D
[22:06] <Xavier__> hi
[22:06] <knome> hellp
[22:06] <Xavier__> need a bit of help if someone doesnt mind :1)
[22:08] <Xavier__> I've installed xbuntu and everything is fine, get to boot and then the flashing cursor and then it says no signal...
[22:08] <Xavier__> im using onboard graphics chip and it works obviously until the driver i expect is loaded then it goes to no signal
[22:10] <Xavier__> new to liux really so I tried some boot options by loading the install dvd and adding some boot options but im not sure if their the same as os x!  how do you boot safe mode>
[22:11] <Xavier__> I tried  -S -x -v  but that didnt seem to work
[23:26] <Xavier__> hi