| rbelem | Riddell, ping | 01:13 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | yofel and Quintasan: It should be beer laced Unicorn cookies. | 01:18 |
| yofel | lol | 01:18 |
| rbelem | Riddell, I just commited the changes to the kdenetwork svn | 02:41 |
| eMyller | 'lo. | 04:00 |
| c2tarun | I am grabbing a package by grab.merge.sh script and its automatically applying the patch. I updated the .quiltrc file but still nothing happned. I tried to pop the patch but No patches found. When I am pushing I am getting Hunk** failed. What should I do? | 04:08 |
| c2tarun | can anyone please help me with this error: dpkg-source: error: File ./freevo_1.9.0.orig.tar.gz has size 34309907 instead of expected 27182867 | 06:33 |
| bambee | morning | 08:27 |
| test | hey, some guy sent me here | 09:32 |
| test | He told me that you guys know Qt? | 09:33 |
| valorie | if anyone is awake..... | 09:33 |
| valorie | test, what do you want to know? | 09:34 |
| test | oh im sorry, my time zone is different :p | 09:34 |
| * valorie isn't a coder, but I can find stuff | 09:34 | |
| valorie | well, the Indians might be around | 09:34 |
| maco | valorie: or harald | 09:34 |
| valorie | the Americans will be asleep except me | 09:34 |
| maco | it's breakfast time in austria | 09:35 |
| valorie | harald on a Friday night? | 09:35 |
| valorie | maco...... | 09:35 |
| valorie | lol | 09:35 |
| maco | you mean *after* a friday night haha....fair point | 09:35 |
| valorie | plus he's been sick | 09:35 |
| maco | well then he probably didn't spend the night at the biergarten! | 09:35 |
| valorie | maybe not! | 09:35 |
| Tm_T | mooh | 09:36 |
| valorie | Qmoo | 09:36 |
| maco | valorie: and yes i know mum, i should get to bed | 09:36 |
| valorie | lol | 09:36 |
| valorie | do you have work or school in the morning? | 09:36 |
| maco | test is looking to get into some Qt stuff and i said mentors and pointers to bugs could be found here | 09:36 |
| maco | i have "wait for ISP to come install the Intarwebs" around lunchtime | 09:37 |
| valorie | for me that would be "wake up when installers come at noon" | 09:37 |
| test | well i made a Qt Creator project | 09:37 |
| maco | and need some debugging help | 09:38 |
| maco | which, if none of the europeans give before i wake up, then i will | 09:38 |
| test | it has 3 QLineEdit widgets in it | 09:38 |
| test | they have all have an event | 09:38 |
| test | (when the text is changed) | 09:39 |
| test | it should convert tempratures | 09:39 |
| test | if it works | 09:39 |
| test | It runs fine | 09:39 |
| test | but when i change the text it gives me an error | 09:40 |
| valorie | sounds right up harald's alley from a year or so back | 09:40 |
| valorie | when he was build a widget man | 09:40 |
| test | wait ill give u the error message | 09:41 |
| test | but i gtg | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: i'm a bit busy till 25th ... :) | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | and i don't have upload rights as well .... | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: tazz is taking care of the rebuilds ;) | 10:57 |
| * tazz will try... | 10:57 | |
| tazz | <--- n00b | 10:57 |
| tazz | hence looking into the job :p | 10:57 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ping | 10:57 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ok, when you come around just please tell me what else is wrong changelog except urgency. I gotta go. THANKS for looking :) | 10:59 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ping | 12:04 |
| rbelem | Riddell, ping | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | meh | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | building gcc on arm is more of a PITA than Qt | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | stupid tests | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | it would appear that test is gone again and did not leave an error message behind ^^ | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | which one would be best for Neon? | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | ( From KDE Software Logo's ) | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | back of my head | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yofel ^^ | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I do not quite compute the question | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i've contacted a friend of mine to do a logo for neon | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | the oxygen one | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | obviously :P | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | so he was asking for artwork neon can relate to, so im sending him the Kubuntu Logo and KDE Logo's | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | the lineart ones only make sense for low-quality printing and stuff | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the official one? | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | they are all official? :P | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | KDE Official Oxygen Logo << I meant that one :) | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | yes | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | there only be one oxygen | 13:29 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha | 13:29 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: powered by KDE would be my choice | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | yeah me too :D | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | but i've sent him the whole page | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | my ear is powerd by meego | 13:32 |
| yofel | what's the back of your head powered by? ^^ | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: maemo | 13:32 |
| yofel | :D | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | he is thus outdated | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | time to upgrade apachelogger's head | 13:33 |
| * shadeslayer get's some screw drivers and pop's open apachelogger's head | 13:33 | |
| apachelogger | sonic I shall hope? | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | oh my oh my | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | everything is outdated inside apachelogger's head ... we need new parts | 13:34 |
| * apachelogger enhances apachelogger.h | 13:35 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yofel Quintasan http://i.imgur.com/stsne.jpg | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: your head is full of Java | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | shhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/569162/ | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | lulz | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: what do you think of it | 13:39 |
| yofel | where did you get that from ... | 13:40 |
| yofel | doesn't exactly look bad though | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | it looks like pr0n advertisement | 13:41 |
| yofel | lol | 13:41 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | I believe I can fly | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | that's the java talking | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how old are you again? :P | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | you are jealous of my relationship with java | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: 19 | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | ari-tczew: Happy Birthday!!! | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah right .... | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: so what can be improved to get it in as the official banner | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | oh, it's ari-tczew's bday? | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did I mention you look like an android? | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | Facebook says so | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no... | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | oh, you must not trust the facebook on such matters | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order birthday package for ari-tczew | 13:51 |
| * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. | 13:51 | |
| * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ari-tczew and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 13:51 | |
| kubotu | Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ari-tczew, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 13:51 |
| kubotu | Happy Birthday ari-tczew :D | 13:51 |
| kubotu | To your health! | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | androidify does that to you supposedly | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you looks like an android | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: is that a good thing? | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | no | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | actually you look like you are about to throw up | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | all green and stuff | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | actually | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | I had an interesting discussion with a lady friend of mine who happens to have some samsung android phone | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | hahah | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | apparently android is crap | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | ... | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | it is | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | also the smileys are all shit to regular people | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | but it's better than symbian crap | 13:53 |
| * eMyller also believes he can fly | 13:53 | |
| ari-tczew | who said that I have birthday today? | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | ari-tczew: facebook | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | she indeed said they look like they are about to throw up | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | ... | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | <3 android | 13:53 |
| eMyller | actually, /me just woke up, so don't listen to him. | 13:53 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: it's not true | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | then fix your fb profile!!! | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | liar!!!!!!!! | 13:53 |
| eMyller | 'morning all | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | eMyller: it's the java speaking | 13:54 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: I guess I don't have you in friends on FB. | 13:54 |
| * apachelogger does not listen to eMyller and wonders why he is not greeting us | 13:54 | |
| shadeslayer | oh darn | 13:54 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: and I don't have set up my birth date. | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | Wrong Artur | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | ah | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | who has birthday? | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | do I? | 13:54 |
| ari-tczew | :-) | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | Arthur Schiwon | 13:54 |
| eMyller | apachelogger: lol | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | ari-tczew: why are we not befriended on the facebook??!?!?!?!!?!?!? | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | I demand befriendshipping | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | now i can't remember his nick | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | now | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | this arthur schiwon looks familiar | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | I think I met him once | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | can't remember his nick though | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | ... | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order birthday package for Blizzz | 13:55 |
| * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. | 13:55 | |
| * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to Blizzz and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 13:55 | |
| kubotu | Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday Blizzz, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 13:55 |
| kubotu | Happy Birthday Blizzz :D | 13:55 |
| kubotu | To your health! | 13:55 |
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: send me request then ;) | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | aha! | 13:55 |
| * apachelogger dances with Blizzz and touches his naughty bits | 13:56 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer: need to go, I'll think about it till I get back | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | i have to study too | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 13:56 |
| eMyller | hey; anyone seen ofirk and sheytan these days? | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: google cricket | 13:56 |
| kubotu | Results for cricket: 1. Bangladesh vs. India, 1st Match, Group B, 19th Feb '11: http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/433558.html?CMP=OTC-GCN | 2. Willow: http://onebox.willow.tv/EventMgmt/UserMgmt/FixtureArchive.asp?target=concluded | 3. Cell Phone Plans | Cell Phones | Mobile Broadband | Cricket Wireless: http://www.mycricket.com/ | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 13:56 |
| Blizzz | djeezus christ | 13:56 |
| Blizzz | apachelogger: ty ;) | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | ari-tczew: no, that is not how this works... you must befriend me | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | Blizzz: happy birthday!! | 13:56 |
| eMyller | i'm worried about the ku website, no one has never talked about it again | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | it is not thursday | 13:56 |
| Blizzz | thanks shadeslayer! | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | I only do befriendshipping thursdays | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | eMyller: the ku? | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | like su but more KDE like? | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | oh | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | ku = kool user? | 13:57 |
| eMyller | it's an all blue su | 13:57 |
| eMyller | dang, i'm just used to the !ku thing on identica | 13:58 |
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: I guess I'm not worthy to get friendship with you on FB | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | I command you to befriend me! | 13:58 |
| * apachelogger cannot wait till thursday | 13:58 | |
| eMyller | apachelogger: actually, ku means ass in portuguese. they just use c instead of k. | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | what if I get git by a bus tomorrow | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sudo makemeafriend | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | then you shall never become my friend on fb | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | imagine the loss | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | you could not take part int he moaning and stuff | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | ... | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | ..... | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: polkit enablement is needed there | 13:59 |
| ari-tczew | aha | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | ... I get git by a bus ... was that by mistake ? :P | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | no | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google git by a bus | 13:59 |
| kubotu | Results for git by a bus: 1. Git by a Bus: http://dev.hubspot.com/bid/57694/Git-by-a-Bus | 2. Git Bus route: http://www.git.org.in/busroute.htm | 3. Git by a Bus | Daniel Bachhuber's weblog: http://danielbachhuber.com/2011/01/05/git-by-a-bus/ | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | lul then | 13:59 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: show me this guy who has birthday today | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | there ye go | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | ari-tczew: Blizzz | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | Blizzz: ari-tczew | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | eMyller: the website is being held back by stuff | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 14:00 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: I don't get it | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | imaginary stuff I might add | 14:00 |
| bambee | now that language-selector is waiting for review, can I help on another thing ? | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | as currently there is nothing to deploy there is nothing to hold back | 14:00 |
| Blizzz | shadeslayer: pardon? | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | if it were to be held back one were to do something about it | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | but since there is nothing... | 14:00 |
| Blizzz | ah | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | bambee: what do you want to do? | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | you can join me watching gcc compile on arm | 14:00 |
| eMyller | apachelogger: there is some non imaginary stuff; sheytan have designed lots of pages | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | that surely will take another 300000 hours | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | eMyller: yes, but it is not deployment ready I recon | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | kbai | 14:01 |
| eMyller | i was just about to get with him to write markup and stuff | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | and until there is something to deploy we cannot annoy the canonical sysadmins to execute the review and deployment | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | thus nothing is being held back right now | 14:01 |
| eMyller | k | 14:01 |
| bambee | apachelogger: I prefer programming tasks but I'm open to any suggestions :) | 14:01 |
| eMyller | not complaining about development | 14:01 |
| eMyller | just wanted to check if there were news | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | bambee: we could watch drunken friends try to sing | 14:02 |
| eMyller | it's quite a longe time i don't see the website guys | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | eMyller: sheytan will know the status I presume | 14:02 |
| eMyller | yeah, this is why i asked about him :P | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | bambee: you could make shadeslayer less useful to me and write a schedule management app for UDS in QML ;) | 14:03 |
| bambee | however if required I can help for packaging and bugfixes of course | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | talking about bugfixes | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | bambee: one thing that always needs doing is bug triage :) | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | ari-tczew: we are still not friends | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | ... | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | bambee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs | 14:04 |
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: I'll survive ;-) | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | ari-tczew: you are very selfish | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | what about me? | 14:04 |
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: get a girlfriend :d | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: ari-tczew questions our relationship! | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | bambee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Responses | 14:05 |
| Nightrose | oO | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | bambee: basically everything that is not caused by Kubuntu gets closed as invalid and the report sent to bugs.kde.org to file the bug their | 14:06 |
| bambee | apachelogger: thanks | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | of course you may also jump at a high profile bug and fix that ;) | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | e.g. in the topic there is a list of alpha3 bugs | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: honey, when is deadline for gsoc ideas btw? | 14:06 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: 28th for kde | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | plenty of time | 14:07 |
| * apachelogger could actually being to draft up proposals | 14:07 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: how many proposals can one single person file before it gets weird? | 14:08 |
| Nightrose | heh | 14:08 |
| Nightrose | i'd say 4 or 5 | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | splendid, just enough :D | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: I might propose something or kwin :P | 14:09 |
| * apachelogger finds that stuff jolly intersting | 14:09 | |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: also I am confident that we can land kwin-gles in natty as soon as someone fixed our gcc, which is currently most broken and makes all of KDE segfault on arm \o/ | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | also linaro is poking into gles enablement which means much more gles love alltogehter | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | love all around | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: when you are back, please teach ari-tczew about apachelogger fandom | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | he does not quite grasp the concept I am afraid | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | also | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | I feel I had too much coffee | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 14:11 |
| ari-tczew | ;O | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | who has time to review apachelogger.h? | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | could release it soonish I believe | 14:13 |
| === muesli_ is now known as muesli | ||
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: haha, you have been broken your rules! :D | 14:24 |
| ari-tczew | you sent me request :P | 14:24 |
| bambee | apachelogger: I could also code a plasma-widget-sound-indicator :P | 14:24 |
| bambee | mouarf :P | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | what is that? | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | sound menu made more sense | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | also upstream agreed it is a generally good idea | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | also it is pretty easy to do | 14:25 |
| bambee | I meant sound menu yeah | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | ok, I am all behind you on that idea | 14:25 |
| * apachelogger thinks soundmenu makes all sorts of sense, just not the name ;) | 14:25 | |
| bambee | I think... it's a good challenge... I love challenges :) | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | ari-tczew: I have a song for that somewhere | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | I believe | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | can't recall the lyrics really | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | lemme see | 14:27 |
| ari-tczew | lol | 14:27 |
| debfx | bambee: something like this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Veromix+-+A+Pulseaudio+volume+control?content=116676 | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | ari-tczew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB0dI0mCzhs&feature=related | 14:29 |
| * apachelogger needs to dance a bit | 14:30 | |
| * apachelogger grabs Nightrose since she is workign too much anyway | 14:30 | |
| bambee | debfx: something like that yup | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | debfx, bambee: simpler and more integrated | 14:31 |
| bambee | with mpris2 spec and all features required by soundmenu | 14:31 |
| * apachelogger notes that kmix should by now have a dbus interface, | 14:31 | |
| apachelogger | at least it was concluded to have that last year at the kde mm meeting | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | no idea if they actually implemented it | 14:31 |
| ari-tczew | apachelogger: do you like punk music? | 14:32 |
| * apachelogger likes good music | 14:32 | |
| bambee | apachelogger: ok | 14:32 |
| bambee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu ;) | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | oh | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | uh | 14:34 |
| * apachelogger just found an interseting bug in amarok | 14:34 | |
| === Squt is now known as Sput | ||
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: what do you want to propose for kwin? | 15:19 |
| === Ash-Fox is now known as Ash|Qin | ||
| Riddell | ooh, owncloud accepted | 16:29 |
| ScottK | Congratulations. | 16:31 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Kernel for n900 is in New, BTW. | 16:31 |
| Riddell | rbelem: congrats on getting samba support into KDE! | 16:45 |
| === debfx_ is now known as debfx | ||
| Daskreech | markey: What's with the fork? | 17:34 |
| markey | Daskreech: just speculation. there has been some talk about KDE having "its own distro" | 17:35 |
| markey | but of course that is a problem, politically | 17:35 |
| markey | the SUSE folks would not be happy with us choosing Kubuntu, and vice versa | 17:35 |
| markey | so I don't think that will ever happen | 17:36 |
| Daskreech | Is there a need for KDE to have it's own distro? | 17:36 |
| markey | good question | 17:36 |
| Daskreech | E has it's own Distro | 17:36 |
| markey | currently, Kubuntu is a great distro for me | 17:36 |
| Daskreech | I can't think of anything else that has one | 17:36 |
| markey | but if Canonical continues making bullshit decisions, and paying 2 guys for making Kubuntu, I worry about its future | 17:37 |
| Daskreech | I suppose you could say that Foresight is the GNOME distro but that's made a huge impact and is really a game changer in the larger scheme of things | 17:37 |
| markey | poor Riddell has to do the work of 10 guys | 17:37 |
| markey | basically | 17:37 |
| markey | is that fair? | 17:37 |
| Daskreech | Depends on whose perspective you look at | 17:37 |
| markey | I imagine what he does is fairly complicated and demanding | 17:38 |
| Daskreech | it is Riddell is a super champ | 17:38 |
| markey | yep | 17:38 |
| markey | does he get payed really well? I don't know. rumor has it, Canonical pays poorly | 17:38 |
| markey | is it OK to treat Kubuntu like an evil step-child? | 17:39 |
| markey | is it not easy to see why that is? | 17:39 |
| markey | is Mr. S. really the great philanthropist, or really a cunning business man, fooling people into thinking something else? | 17:41 |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| Daskreech | markey: Well he is paying for something that is outside of what he set out to do and actually dilutes it | 17:42 |
| markey | ok | 17:43 |
| markey | so far so good | 17:43 |
| markey | why is he doing that? | 17:43 |
| Daskreech | So is it fair to have a unplanned for side project be treated like a side project? I'd say probably | 17:43 |
| markey | he could simply not do it, right? | 17:43 |
| Daskreech | Riddell asked him to | 17:43 |
| markey | do you really believe that? | 17:43 |
| markey | would you believe anything some CEO told you? | 17:43 |
| Daskreech | That if Riddell had not offered to build Kubuntu that it wouldn't exist now? Yeah pretty much | 17:44 |
| markey | maybe | 17:44 |
| markey | or maybe the real reason is: appeasing the KDE community | 17:44 |
| markey | while spending the absolute minimum required to do it | 17:45 |
| markey | like a cunning business man would do | 17:45 |
| Daskreech | It most likely is. But if Riddell had not said he would shoulder the responsibilty Kubuntu wuld be in the same category as GnuSense | 17:45 |
| markey | sure, that could very well be true | 17:45 |
| Daskreech | markey: We are saying the same things but that doesnt' change that Kubuntu is a side project and treated lke one | 17:46 |
| markey | but what Riddell did back then, well. that's one thing. | 17:46 |
| markey | yes | 17:46 |
| markey | is that OK? | 17:46 |
| markey | maybe yes, maybe not | 17:46 |
| markey | IMHO: nope, not OK at all | 17:46 |
| Daskreech | depends on where you are looking at it from | 17:46 |
| markey | right | 17:46 |
| Daskreech | well then fund a KDE distro then | 17:46 |
| markey | I can't | 17:47 |
| Daskreech | or offer to pay a second person to | 17:47 |
| markey | but KDE could | 17:47 |
| markey | easily | 17:47 |
| Daskreech | Or start a foundation for it | 17:47 |
| Daskreech | Yes but that still a side project for the KDE foundation | 17:47 |
| markey | so anyway, I guess we both understood each other's positions | 17:47 |
| ScottK | Personally, I'm glad Kubuntu is a side project. | 17:47 |
| ScottK | The community gets a huge amount of say in what happens in Kubuntu because we do a large share of the work. | 17:48 |
| Daskreech | Not nearly in the same way as Canonical but Riddell has put up effort for what he thought was a good idea | 17:48 |
| markey | personally, I am glad that Kubuntu exists, but I still thing that Canonical is screwing over people | 17:48 |
| markey | think* | 17:48 |
| Daskreech | markey: I think a solution for your conflict would be to start something explictly to fund polish in Kubuntu | 17:49 |
| ScottK | Or just convince people it's a worthwhile use of their time. | 17:49 |
| markey | again, I could not do that. KDE could do it, but it would get KDE into a mess of political issues | 17:49 |
| markey | because there are more distros | 17:49 |
| Daskreech | markey: Why could you not do it | 17:49 |
| Daskreech | I'm not asking you to fund it | 17:49 |
| ScottK | markey: It didn't stop KDE from making an OpenSuse netbook "reference implementation" | 17:49 |
| Daskreech | just to start a movement | 17:49 |
| markey | no time, no money | 17:49 |
| markey | I contribute to Amarok, which contributes to Kubuntu | 17:50 |
| Daskreech | apachelogger started the Kubuntu Ninjas movement and it's been progressin | 17:50 |
| markey | that's the most I can do | 17:50 |
| Daskreech | markey: Just beat a drum when you can :) | 17:50 |
| markey | :) | 17:50 |
| Daskreech | Ideas grow when watered | 17:50 |
| markey | apachelogger has been beating a lot of drums | 17:50 |
| markey | he's a smart guy | 17:50 |
| markey | are his ideas heard? | 17:50 |
| Daskreech | and it's working | 17:50 |
| Daskreech | Yes | 17:51 |
| Daskreech | This channel is a lot fuller and more active since he started doing that | 17:51 |
| markey | yeah, he can do that very well | 17:51 |
| Daskreech | slow progress is still progress | 17:51 |
| markey | but he has many ideas, some of which are more radical | 17:51 |
| Daskreech | ya hurd? :) | 17:51 |
| markey | hehe | 17:51 |
| markey | well ask him yourself | 17:51 |
| Daskreech | markey: Would you like to do an article for amarok for the feature digest | 17:53 |
| markey | I'm sorry, what is that? | 17:53 |
| * bambee arrived and tries to understand something | 17:54 | |
| c2tarun | hi | 18:01 |
| Daskreech | markey: http://commit-digest.org/ | 18:05 |
| markey | Daskreech: ah, sorry, but we Amarok folks started to do our own "Commit Digest" thingie. we call it "Last Week in Amarok", modeled afer what Boud did for Krita | 18:09 |
| markey | Commit Digest is great for the core of KDE, but I don't think that it could ever be able to cover the whole range of apps | 18:10 |
| markey | there are just too many of them now | 18:10 |
| Daskreech | markey: that's why it's a digest :) | 18:11 |
| markey | :) | 18:13 |
| Daskreech | That does give me an idea though | 18:14 |
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| bambee | someone know where I could find kmix icon (air theme) ? | 19:10 |
| bambee | i.e the systray white icon | 19:11 |
| Riddell | bambee: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/ | 19:18 |
| bambee | Riddell: great! thanks | 19:19 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Now wouldn't be a bad time to be thinking about https://launchpad.net/clamav-kde again. Klamav was just removed from Debian due to it's KDE3ness. | 19:27 |
| Daskreech | ScottK: I'm shocked. Debian is discriminating against oldness? /s | 19:27 |
| ScottK | Daskreech: Debian qt/kde team wants to release wheezy Qt3/KDE3 free. They don't want Qt3 to be the next Gtk-1.2. | 19:28 |
| ScottK | I think it's a reasonable goal. | 19:29 |
| ScottK | I think we should be Qt3/KDE3 free for the next LTS. | 19:29 |
| Daskreech | Wasn't Gtk 1 famous cause some apps simply refused to go to Gtk2? | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 19:29 |
| ScottK | And in the end they were removed, but it took almost a decade. | 19:29 |
| Riddell | ScottK: being Qt 3 free requires either updating LSB or having ubuntu no longer support LSB | 19:34 |
| Riddell | which could well be the reasonable thing to do | 19:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We've never claimed to support LSB. | 19:35 |
| ScottK | There are parts of LSB we support, but not the whole thing. | 19:35 |
| Daskreech | jtechidna posted a list of KDE3 bound things in Kubuntu | 19:36 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think it's be great to keep Qt3 around if someone was going to maintain it. | 19:37 |
| Daskreech | might be nice to have that as a wiki page if it's a goal for Odoriferous Otter | 19:37 |
| Riddell | Qt 3 upstream is dead so I think it's daft to try and maintain it | 19:37 |
| debfx | Daskreech: I though it's orly owl :( | 19:39 |
| Daskreech | debfx: Orly? Whooooooo said that? | 19:39 |
| debfx | Daskreech: I just can't imagine any other codename for the o series | 19:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Agreed. That's why I think removal for the next LTS is the sane course. | 19:47 |
| ScottK | Wow. rekonq in Natty doesn't totally suck. Who'd have thought ... | 20:26 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ^ | 20:27 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: also, pinheiro said he really has too much stuff and won | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | won't be able to make us artwork | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | We'll use sheytan's work and maybe we'll get something oxygen'ish later | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | TBH Oxygen'ish artwork for Neon is like, wtf | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: wayland foobar or modularization | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | all to get rid of X :P | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | markey: did you have a fan club meeting or something? :D | 20:46 |
| * apachelogger just read that apparently fglrx does opengles | 20:47 | |
| apachelogger | git pull the kwin-gles \o/ | 20:47 |
| markey | apachelogger: yeah I just came back from the weekly apachelogger-fan-club meeting | 20:51 |
| apachelogger | very nice | 20:52 |
| markey | we fondled a Harald Action Figure | 20:52 |
| markey | did you feel the love? | 20:52 |
| apachelogger | I thought I felt something indeed | 20:52 |
| markey | dude I should not say this, but we should skype | 20:52 |
| markey | I'm dying a slow and painful death in this hotel room | 20:52 |
| markey | not even sure what day of the week it is | 20:53 |
| markey | it's sat, no? | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | saturday, hence you did not go to work today :P | 20:53 |
| markey | aaaah | 20:53 |
| markey | yes | 20:53 |
| markey | that explains it | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | ah, dpkg is having intercourse with me | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | my oh my | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/569328/ | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | that does not compute at all | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | oh | 21:02 |
| apachelogger | now I see | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | version problems | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | cause I'm TNT | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | ... | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | markey: so | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | skype? | 21:09 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: fglrx does opengles but in an unusable way | 21:10 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 21:10 |
| apachelogger | <3 drivers | 21:10 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: and don't pull my scratch repo any more - everything is merged into master and I don't update the scratch repo any more | 21:10 |
| apachelogger | k | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | needs more fiddly then | 21:11 |
| mgraesslin | with fglrx you have to resolve each function pointer and the nice thing about gles is that you would not have to resolve the function pointers | 21:11 |
| mgraesslin | and knowing from the normal glx driver it would be too slow anyway | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | well | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | right now dpkg is not very nice anyway | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | doesnt let me install the package even though it should be very installable :O | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | gcc on arm is now building for >24h ... | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: how would one switch to gles on master then? | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | runtime? | 21:31 |
| mgraesslin | build time | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | ok | 21:31 |
| mgraesslin | -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | thx | 21:31 |
| mgraesslin | I hope to find a runtime solution but don't have any idea how, yet | 21:31 |
| * apachelogger is this ---> <---- close to changing the login sound | 21:37 | |
| apachelogger | maco: let's make a time vortex screensaver | 21:41 |
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| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| apachelogger | great | 23:31 |
| apachelogger | ubiquity seems the broken | 23:31 |
| apachelogger | stuck at 64% of system install -.- | 23:31 |
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