[01:13] Riddell, ping [01:18] yofel and Quintasan: It should be beer laced Unicorn cookies. [01:18] lol [02:41] Riddell, I just commited the changes to the kdenetwork svn [04:00] 'lo. [04:08] I am grabbing a package by grab.merge.sh script and its automatically applying the patch. I updated the .quiltrc file but still nothing happned. I tried to pop the patch but No patches found. When I am pushing I am getting Hunk** failed. What should I do? [06:33] can anyone please help me with this error: dpkg-source: error: File ./freevo_1.9.0.orig.tar.gz has size 34309907 instead of expected 27182867 [08:27] morning [09:32] hey, some guy sent me here [09:33] He told me that you guys know Qt? [09:33] if anyone is awake..... [09:34] test, what do you want to know? [09:34] oh im sorry, my time zone is different :p [09:34] * valorie isn't a coder, but I can find stuff [09:34] well, the Indians might be around [09:34] valorie: or harald [09:34] the Americans will be asleep except me [09:35] it's breakfast time in austria [09:35] harald on a Friday night? [09:35] maco...... [09:35] lol [09:35] you mean *after* a friday night haha....fair point [09:35] plus he's been sick [09:35] well then he probably didn't spend the night at the biergarten! [09:35] maybe not! [09:36] mooh [09:36] Qmoo [09:36] valorie: and yes i know mum, i should get to bed [09:36] lol [09:36] do you have work or school in the morning? [09:36] test is looking to get into some Qt stuff and i said mentors and pointers to bugs could be found here [09:37] i have "wait for ISP to come install the Intarwebs" around lunchtime [09:37] for me that would be "wake up when installers come at noon" [09:37] well i made a Qt Creator project [09:38] and need some debugging help [09:38] which, if none of the europeans give before i wake up, then i will [09:38] it has 3 QLineEdit widgets in it [09:38] they have all have an event [09:39] (when the text is changed) [09:39] it should convert tempratures [09:39] if it works [09:39] It runs fine [09:40] but when i change the text it gives me an error [09:40] sounds right up harald's alley from a year or so back [09:40] when he was build a widget man [09:41] wait ill give u the error message [09:43] but i gtg [10:28] debfx: i'm a bit busy till 25th ... :) [10:29] and i don't have upload rights as well .... [10:57] debfx: tazz is taking care of the rebuilds ;) [10:57] * tazz will try... [10:57] <--- n00b [10:57] hence looking into the job :p [10:57] shadeslayer: ping [10:59] shadeslayer: ok, when you come around just please tell me what else is wrong changelog except urgency. I gotta go. THANKS for looking :) [12:04] shadeslayer: ping [12:05] Riddell, ping [13:24] meh [13:24] building gcc on arm is more of a PITA than Qt [13:24] -.- [13:24] stupid tests [13:24] it would appear that test is gone again and did not leave an error message behind ^^ [13:26] apachelogger: http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php [13:26] which one would be best for Neon? [13:27] ( From KDE Software Logo's ) [13:27] back of my head [13:27] Quintasan: yofel ^^ [13:27] shadeslayer: I do not quite compute the question [13:27] apachelogger: i've contacted a friend of mine to do a logo for neon [13:27] well [13:27] the oxygen one [13:28] obviously :P [13:28] so he was asking for artwork neon can relate to, so im sending him the Kubuntu Logo and KDE Logo's [13:28] the lineart ones only make sense for low-quality printing and stuff [13:28] apachelogger: the official one? [13:28] hmm [13:28] ok [13:28] they are all official? :P [13:29] KDE Official Oxygen Logo << I meant that one :) [13:29] yes [13:29] there only be one oxygen [13:29] muhahaha [13:30] shadeslayer: powered by KDE would be my choice [13:30] yeah me too :D [13:30] but i've sent him the whole page [13:32] my ear is powerd by meego [13:32] what's the back of your head powered by? ^^ [13:32] yofel: maemo [13:32] :D [13:33] he is thus outdated [13:33] time to upgrade apachelogger's head [13:33] * shadeslayer get's some screw drivers and pop's open apachelogger's head [13:33] sonic I shall hope? [13:34] oh my oh my [13:34] everything is outdated inside apachelogger's head ... we need new parts [13:35] * apachelogger enhances apachelogger.h [13:35] apachelogger: yofel Quintasan http://i.imgur.com/stsne.jpg [13:36] apachelogger: your head is full of Java [13:37] shhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/569162/ [13:37] lulz [13:39] yofel: what do you think of it [13:40] where did you get that from ... [13:41] doesn't exactly look bad though [13:41] it looks like pr0n advertisement [13:41] lol [13:42] haha [13:44] I believe I can fly [13:47] that's the java talking [13:47] apachelogger: how old are you again? :P [13:48] you are jealous of my relationship with java [13:48] shadeslayer: 19 [13:48] ari-tczew: Happy Birthday!!! [13:49] apachelogger: yeah right .... [13:49] yofel: so what can be improved to get it in as the official banner [13:51] oh, it's ari-tczew's bday? [13:51] shadeslayer: did I mention you look like an android? [13:51] Facebook says so [13:51] apachelogger: no... [13:51] oh, you must not trust the facebook on such matters [13:51] kubotu: order birthday package for ari-tczew [13:51] * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. [13:51] * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ari-tczew and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. [13:51] Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ari-tczew, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! [13:51] Happy Birthday ari-tczew :D [13:51] To your health! [13:51] androidify does that to you supposedly [13:51] shadeslayer: you looks like an android [13:52] apachelogger: is that a good thing? [13:52] no [13:52] actually you look like you are about to throw up [13:52] all green and stuff [13:52] actually [13:52] I had an interesting discussion with a lady friend of mine who happens to have some samsung android phone [13:52] hahah [13:52] apparently android is crap [13:52] ... [13:52] it is [13:53] also the smileys are all shit to regular people [13:53] but it's better than symbian crap [13:53] * eMyller also believes he can fly [13:53] who said that I have birthday today? [13:53] ari-tczew: facebook [13:53] she indeed said they look like they are about to throw up [13:53] ... [13:53] <3 android [13:53] actually, /me just woke up, so don't listen to him. [13:53] shadeslayer: it's not true [13:53] then fix your fb profile!!! [13:53] liar!!!!!!!! [13:53] 'morning all [13:54] eMyller: it's the java speaking [13:54] shadeslayer: I guess I don't have you in friends on FB. [13:54] * apachelogger does not listen to eMyller and wonders why he is not greeting us [13:54] oh darn [13:54] shadeslayer: and I don't have set up my birth date. [13:54] Wrong Artur [13:54] ah [13:54] who has birthday? [13:54] do I? [13:54] :-) [13:54] Arthur Schiwon [13:54] apachelogger: lol [13:54] ari-tczew: why are we not befriended on the facebook??!?!?!?!!?!?!? [13:54] I demand befriendshipping [13:54] now i can't remember his nick [13:55] now [13:55] this arthur schiwon looks familiar [13:55] I think I met him once [13:55] can't remember his nick though [13:55] ... [13:55] kubotu: order birthday package for Blizzz [13:55] * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. [13:55] * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to Blizzz and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. [13:55] Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday Blizzz, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! [13:55] Happy Birthday Blizzz :D [13:55] To your health! [13:55] apachelogger: send me request then ;) [13:55] aha! [13:56] * apachelogger dances with Blizzz and touches his naughty bits [13:56] shadeslayer: need to go, I'll think about it till I get back [13:56] sure [13:56] i have to study too [13:56] cya [13:56] hey; anyone seen ofirk and sheytan these days? [13:56] kubotu: google cricket [13:56] Results for cricket: 1. Bangladesh vs. India, 1st Match, Group B, 19th Feb '11: http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/433558.html?CMP=OTC-GCN | 2. Willow: http://onebox.willow.tv/EventMgmt/UserMgmt/FixtureArchive.asp?target=concluded | 3. Cell Phone Plans | Cell Phones | Mobile Broadband | Cricket Wireless: http://www.mycricket.com/ [13:56] apachelogger: ^^ [13:56] djeezus christ [13:56] apachelogger: ty ;) [13:56] ari-tczew: no, that is not how this works... you must befriend me [13:56] Blizzz: happy birthday!! [13:56] i'm worried about the ku website, no one has never talked about it again [13:56] it is not thursday [13:57] thanks shadeslayer! [13:57] I only do befriendshipping thursdays [13:57] eMyller: the ku? [13:57] like su but more KDE like? [13:57] oh [13:57] ku = kool user? [13:57] it's an all blue su [13:58] dang, i'm just used to the !ku thing on identica [13:58] apachelogger: I guess I'm not worthy to get friendship with you on FB [13:58] I command you to befriend me! [13:58] * apachelogger cannot wait till thursday [13:58] apachelogger: actually, ku means ass in portuguese. they just use c instead of k. [13:58] what if I get git by a bus tomorrow [13:58] apachelogger: sudo makemeafriend [13:58] then you shall never become my friend on fb [13:58] imagine the loss [13:58] you could not take part int he moaning and stuff [13:58] ... [13:59] ..... [13:59] shadeslayer: polkit enablement is needed there [13:59] aha [13:59] ... I get git by a bus ... was that by mistake ? :P [13:59] no [13:59] ah [13:59] kubotu: google git by a bus [13:59] Results for git by a bus: 1. Git by a Bus: http://dev.hubspot.com/bid/57694/Git-by-a-Bus | 2. Git Bus route: http://www.git.org.in/busroute.htm | 3. Git by a Bus | Daniel Bachhuber's weblog: http://danielbachhuber.com/2011/01/05/git-by-a-bus/ [13:59] lul then [13:59] shadeslayer: show me this guy who has birthday today [13:59] there ye go [13:59] ari-tczew: Blizzz [13:59] Blizzz: ari-tczew [13:59] eMyller: the website is being held back by stuff [14:00] aye [14:00] shadeslayer: I don't get it [14:00] imaginary stuff I might add [14:00] now that language-selector is waiting for review, can I help on another thing ? [14:00] as currently there is nothing to deploy there is nothing to hold back [14:00] shadeslayer: pardon? [14:00] if it were to be held back one were to do something about it [14:00] but since there is nothing... [14:00] ah [14:00] :) [14:00] bambee: what do you want to do? [14:00] you can join me watching gcc compile on arm [14:00] apachelogger: there is some non imaginary stuff; sheytan have designed lots of pages [14:00] that surely will take another 300000 hours [14:01] eMyller: yes, but it is not deployment ready I recon [14:01] kbai [14:01] i was just about to get with him to write markup and stuff [14:01] and until there is something to deploy we cannot annoy the canonical sysadmins to execute the review and deployment [14:01] thus nothing is being held back right now [14:01] k [14:01] apachelogger: I prefer programming tasks but I'm open to any suggestions :) [14:01] not complaining about development [14:02] just wanted to check if there were news [14:02] bambee: we could watch drunken friends try to sing [14:02] it's quite a longe time i don't see the website guys [14:02] eMyller: sheytan will know the status I presume [14:02] yeah, this is why i asked about him :P [14:03] bambee: you could make shadeslayer less useful to me and write a schedule management app for UDS in QML ;) [14:03] however if required I can help for packaging and bugfixes of course [14:03] talking about bugfixes [14:03] bambee: one thing that always needs doing is bug triage :) [14:03] ari-tczew: we are still not friends [14:04] ... [14:04] bambee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [14:04] apachelogger: I'll survive ;-) [14:04] ari-tczew: you are very selfish [14:04] what about me? [14:05] apachelogger: get a girlfriend :d [14:05] Nightrose: ari-tczew questions our relationship! [14:05] bambee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Responses [14:05] oO [14:06] bambee: basically everything that is not caused by Kubuntu gets closed as invalid and the report sent to bugs.kde.org to file the bug their [14:06] apachelogger: thanks [14:06] of course you may also jump at a high profile bug and fix that ;) [14:06] e.g. in the topic there is a list of alpha3 bugs [14:06] Nightrose: honey, when is deadline for gsoc ideas btw? [14:07] apachelogger: 28th for kde [14:07] ah [14:07] plenty of time [14:07] * apachelogger could actually being to draft up proposals [14:08] Nightrose: how many proposals can one single person file before it gets weird? [14:08] heh [14:08] i'd say 4 or 5 [14:08] splendid, just enough :D [14:09] mgraesslin: I might propose something or kwin :P [14:09] * apachelogger finds that stuff jolly intersting [14:10] mgraesslin: also I am confident that we can land kwin-gles in natty as soon as someone fixed our gcc, which is currently most broken and makes all of KDE segfault on arm \o/ [14:10] also linaro is poking into gles enablement which means much more gles love alltogehter [14:10] love all around [14:11] shadeslayer: when you are back, please teach ari-tczew about apachelogger fandom [14:11] he does not quite grasp the concept I am afraid [14:11] also [14:11] I feel I had too much coffee [14:11] oh my [14:12] ;O [14:13] who has time to review apachelogger.h? [14:13] could release it soonish I believe === muesli_ is now known as muesli [14:24] apachelogger: haha, you have been broken your rules! :D [14:24] you sent me request :P [14:24] apachelogger: I could also code a plasma-widget-sound-indicator :P [14:24] mouarf :P [14:24] what is that? [14:25] sound menu made more sense [14:25] also upstream agreed it is a generally good idea [14:25] also it is pretty easy to do [14:25] I meant sound menu yeah [14:25] ok, I am all behind you on that idea [14:25] * apachelogger thinks soundmenu makes all sorts of sense, just not the name ;) [14:26] I think... it's a good challenge... I love challenges :) [14:27] ari-tczew: I have a song for that somewhere [14:27] I believe [14:27] can't recall the lyrics really [14:27] lemme see [14:27] lol [14:28] bambee: something like this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Veromix+-+A+Pulseaudio+volume+control?content=116676 [14:29] ari-tczew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB0dI0mCzhs&feature=related [14:30] * apachelogger needs to dance a bit [14:30] * apachelogger grabs Nightrose since she is workign too much anyway [14:30] debfx: something like that yup [14:31] debfx, bambee: simpler and more integrated [14:31] with mpris2 spec and all features required by soundmenu [14:31] * apachelogger notes that kmix should by now have a dbus interface, [14:31] at least it was concluded to have that last year at the kde mm meeting [14:31] no idea if they actually implemented it [14:32] apachelogger: do you like punk music? [14:32] * apachelogger likes good music [14:32] apachelogger: ok [14:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu ;) [14:34] hm [14:34] oh [14:34] uh [14:34] * apachelogger just found an interseting bug in amarok === Squt is now known as Sput [15:19] apachelogger: what do you want to propose for kwin? === Ash-Fox is now known as Ash|Qin [16:29] ooh, owncloud accepted [16:31] Congratulations. [16:31] Riddell: Kernel for n900 is in New, BTW. [16:45] rbelem: congrats on getting samba support into KDE! === debfx_ is now known as debfx [17:34] markey: What's with the fork? [17:35] Daskreech: just speculation. there has been some talk about KDE having "its own distro" [17:35] but of course that is a problem, politically [17:35] the SUSE folks would not be happy with us choosing Kubuntu, and vice versa [17:36] so I don't think that will ever happen [17:36] Is there a need for KDE to have it's own distro? [17:36] good question [17:36] E has it's own Distro [17:36] currently, Kubuntu is a great distro for me [17:36] I can't think of anything else that has one [17:37] but if Canonical continues making bullshit decisions, and paying 2 guys for making Kubuntu, I worry about its future [17:37] I suppose you could say that Foresight is the GNOME distro but that's made a huge impact and is really a game changer in the larger scheme of things [17:37] poor Riddell has to do the work of 10 guys [17:37] basically [17:37] is that fair? [17:37] Depends on whose perspective you look at [17:38] I imagine what he does is fairly complicated and demanding [17:38] it is Riddell is a super champ [17:38] yep [17:38] does he get payed really well? I don't know. rumor has it, Canonical pays poorly [17:39] is it OK to treat Kubuntu like an evil step-child? [17:39] is it not easy to see why that is? [17:41] is Mr. S. really the great philanthropist, or really a cunning business man, fooling people into thinking something else? === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [17:42] markey: Well he is paying for something that is outside of what he set out to do and actually dilutes it [17:43] ok [17:43] so far so good [17:43] why is he doing that? [17:43] So is it fair to have a unplanned for side project be treated like a side project? I'd say probably [17:43] he could simply not do it, right? [17:43] Riddell asked him to [17:43] do you really believe that? [17:43] would you believe anything some CEO told you? [17:44] That if Riddell had not offered to build Kubuntu that it wouldn't exist now? Yeah pretty much [17:44] maybe [17:44] or maybe the real reason is: appeasing the KDE community [17:45] while spending the absolute minimum required to do it [17:45] like a cunning business man would do [17:45] It most likely is. But if Riddell had not said he would shoulder the responsibilty Kubuntu wuld be in the same category as GnuSense [17:45] sure, that could very well be true [17:46] markey: We are saying the same things but that doesnt' change that Kubuntu is a side project and treated lke one [17:46] but what Riddell did back then, well. that's one thing. [17:46] yes [17:46] is that OK? [17:46] maybe yes, maybe not [17:46] IMHO: nope, not OK at all [17:46] depends on where you are looking at it from [17:46] right [17:46] well then fund a KDE distro then [17:47] I can't [17:47] or offer to pay a second person to [17:47] but KDE could [17:47] easily [17:47] Or start a foundation for it [17:47] Yes but that still a side project for the KDE foundation [17:47] so anyway, I guess we both understood each other's positions [17:47] Personally, I'm glad Kubuntu is a side project. [17:48] The community gets a huge amount of say in what happens in Kubuntu because we do a large share of the work. [17:48] Not nearly in the same way as Canonical but Riddell has put up effort for what he thought was a good idea [17:48] personally, I am glad that Kubuntu exists, but I still thing that Canonical is screwing over people [17:48] think* [17:49] markey: I think a solution for your conflict would be to start something explictly to fund polish in Kubuntu [17:49] Or just convince people it's a worthwhile use of their time. [17:49] again, I could not do that. KDE could do it, but it would get KDE into a mess of political issues [17:49] because there are more distros [17:49] markey: Why could you not do it [17:49] I'm not asking you to fund it [17:49] markey: It didn't stop KDE from making an OpenSuse netbook "reference implementation" [17:49] just to start a movement [17:49] no time, no money [17:50] I contribute to Amarok, which contributes to Kubuntu [17:50] apachelogger started the Kubuntu Ninjas movement and it's been progressin [17:50] that's the most I can do [17:50] markey: Just beat a drum when you can :) [17:50] :) [17:50] Ideas grow when watered [17:50] apachelogger has been beating a lot of drums [17:50] he's a smart guy [17:50] are his ideas heard? [17:50] and it's working [17:51] Yes [17:51] This channel is a lot fuller and more active since he started doing that [17:51] yeah, he can do that very well [17:51] slow progress is still progress [17:51] but he has many ideas, some of which are more radical [17:51] ya hurd? :) [17:51] hehe [17:51] well ask him yourself [17:53] markey: Would you like to do an article for amarok for the feature digest [17:53]