[02:13] <Gulfstream> which version of LibreOffice will Ubuntu 11.04 have?
[02:14] <BUGabundo> !info libreoffice
[02:14] <ubottu> libreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.0-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 3 kB, installed size 44 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 armel armhf hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390 s390x sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 all)
[02:15] <Gulfstream> BUGabundo: I meant.... will Ubuntu 11.04's LibreOffice update to the next LibreOffice or will it stay the same like how OpenOffice.org did in previous versios of Ubuntu?
[02:15] <BUGabundo> no idea
[02:19] <BUGabundo> E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6-i386_2.13~pre1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.30 80]
[02:19] <BUGabundo> this can't be good!
[02:20] <Patrickdk> it's that launchpad *bugfix* :)
[02:28] <Patrickdk> Company Profile
[02:28] <Patrickdk> Employees: 20
[02:28] <Patrickdk> Average Employee Income: Negative
[02:28] <Patrickdk> Benefits: Health plan, 401k, paid vacations
[02:28] <Patrickdk> oh opps, wrong chan :)
[02:31] <BUGabundo> there's a bug fix for you :P
[02:32] <BUGabundo> night
[02:40] <bp0> does unity work in vbox with guest extensions/3d support?
[02:40] <bp0> i cant get ubuntu natty to work in vbox with any session
[02:41] <bp0> classic or unity
[02:41] <bp0> just blank screen with wallpaper
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[03:11] <lucent> ergh, Firefox4 is still bork
[03:11] <lucent> "open with application" will download, then open the application, but does not open the downloaded file
[03:12] <lucent> I think it's trying too quickly
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[04:14] <aroman> hey guys, does anyone have any idea how to customize a text string in ubiquity for natty?
[04:15] <aroman> specifically I mean the "You may with to read the release notes" string
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[05:40] <aboSamoor> Hi all, I installed 11.04 amd64 bit. I can not get the mono theme or icons, any idea ?
[07:14] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[07:14] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[07:15] <DreadKnight> hello, upgraded to 11.04... and I had autologin... all i get is my stupid wallpaper.. can't even alt+F2...
[07:16] <DreadKnight> there isn't even a single hotkey to log out my user... only lock the screen...
[07:16] <eagles0513875> im doing what the upgrade link tells me yet its saying there is no new release
[07:16] <eagles0513875> what do i need to do to get natty
[07:17] <DreadKnight> alt+ft and type
[07:17] <DreadKnight> update-manager dist-upgrade -d
[07:17] <DreadKnight> alt+f2 I mean
[07:17] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875
[07:17] <eagles0513875> command not found
[07:18] <eagles0513875> got it
[07:18] <DreadKnight> you wrote it badly then
[07:18] <eagles0513875> its sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[07:18] <DreadKnight> copy paste
[07:18] <eagles0513875> are you on gnme DreadKnight
[07:18] <DreadKnight> yep
[07:18] <DreadKnight> on on fucking windows 7 atm; can't do anything with my naty
[07:18] <IdleOne> !language | DreadKnight
[07:18] <ubottu> DreadKnight: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[07:18] <DreadKnight> ye ye, language
[07:18] <DreadKnight> need help
[07:19] <eagles0513875> ouchie im upgrading my netbook from maverick to natty
[07:19] <eagles0513875> you are aware that natty is still in development and issues like ur experiencing are expected to happen
[07:19] <DreadKnight> I don't recall the silly names; just version numbers
[07:19] <eagles0513875> natty = 11.04
[07:19] <eagles0513875> if you ant a rock solid release go with 10.04 lucid
[07:19] <DreadKnight> yep, but not having a log out hotkey is ultra lame
[07:20] <DreadKnight> i'm stuck in an endless loop
[07:20] <eagles0513875> you tried restarting x
[07:20] <DreadKnight> there's no more restart X hotkey for ages now
[07:20] <eagles0513875> yes there is its not enabled
[07:20] <DreadKnight> same thing
[07:20] <DreadKnight> if it's not enabled, I can't use it
[07:21] <eagles0513875> can try restart x from command line
[07:21] <DreadKnight> I said I can't even alt+f2, I'm not getting anything
[07:21] <Ohelig> @DreadKnight, if I read correctly, you're screwed. Maybe install was corrupted?
[07:21] <DreadKnight> but my wallpaper and when I press the shutdown button..
[07:21] <eagles0513875> Ohelig: thats possible or a botched upgrade
[07:21] <DreadKnight> Ohelig: tablet pc, no "unity 3d" support I guess
[07:22] <DreadKnight> and I can't log out of my user, which has autologin
[07:22] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: you talking about the game engine unity 3d?
[07:22] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: fail, Unity, the stuff Canonical made;
[07:22] <Ohelig> either way, I suggest you re-install the older version of ubuntu you were using
[07:22] <eagles0513875> i agree with Ohelig especially if you need a working stable system go 10.04
[07:23] <Ohelig> Can I assume that you made a backup of your files before upgrading to an OS in Alpha?
[07:23] <DreadKnight> I have a home partition
[07:23] <DreadKnight> everything is saved except installed stuff and such
[07:24] <DreadKnight> but *what* I need is a way to log out my current user and log into Unity2D
[07:24] <DreadKnight> because Unity2D should work fine
[07:25] <DreadKnight> or a way to make my user not autologin, provided I go into a terminal view and do that from the command line
[07:26] <DreadKnight> might as well switch to kde
[07:26] <rumpe1_> DreadKnight, well... maybe recovery-mode and edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:26] <DreadKnight> again
[07:26] <DreadKnight> yeah, was thinking getting rid of gdm and installing kdm
[07:26] <rumpe1_> or via lveMedium
[07:27] <DreadKnight> but I can't go into recovery-mode or any other lame mode because I'm getting autologged into a mode that is not fit at all for my machine and results in severe ultra fail
[07:27] <rumpe1_> boot, press shift *before* grub should come up, keep pressing... then grub and recovery mode should pop up
[07:28] <DreadKnight> right; I get the screen anyway because I'm dual booting
[07:28] <rumpe1_> ?
[07:29] <rumpe1_> you said you don't
[07:29] <DreadKnight> but still, not sure with what the recovery mode could help me with.. hmm
[07:29] <rumpe1_> DreadKnight, if you don't know this, maybe natty really isn't the best choice for you
[07:29] <DreadKnight> dual booting = grub showing up
[07:30] <rumpe1_> then use recovery mode
[07:30] <rumpe1_> and work in cli
[07:30] <rumpe1_> i hope you are familiar with it
[07:30] <DreadKnight> I can't think of anything that the recovery mode will help me fix
[07:30] <DreadKnight> I use cli a lot
[07:30] <rumpe1_> lol
[07:30] <rumpe1_> well... give it a try :)
[07:30] <DreadKnight> might take a peek, yeah
[07:31] <DreadKnight> but if natty does this crap for most user, it's bye bye ubuntu being number one
[07:31] <rumpe1_> you could edit gdm.conf, install kde, sustitute gdm with kdm ... whatever
[07:31] <rumpe1_> oh man
[07:31] <rumpe1_> it's not even beta :P
[07:31] <DreadKnight> yes, but I could as well hit ctrl+alt + f1 after I boot
[07:31] <DreadKnight> and log into CLI
[07:32] <rumpe1_> yeah
[07:32] <DreadKnight> I know it's not even beta, but still...
[07:32] <DreadKnight> :D
[07:32] <rumpe1_> ... buggy? :)
[07:32] <DreadKnight> it's not the first time a release would be having issues or regressions...
[07:32] <rumpe1_> that sentence wouldn't make any sense.... pre-beta=buggy as hell
[07:32] <rumpe1_> sure
[07:32] <DreadKnight> and I mean proper release
[07:33] <rumpe1_> like every other OS release
[07:33] <DreadKnight> is there an easy way to test out gnome3 in natty already?
[07:34] <rumpe1_> dont know
[07:34] <rumpe1_> i tried gnome shell in 10.10 ...
[07:35] <rumpe1_> guess thats the same (?)
[07:35] <DreadKnight> hmm
[07:35] <rumpe1_> but good idea... will try it next ^^
[07:36] <DreadKnight> anyway, this whole unity vs gnome-shell is a bit annoying
[07:36] <DreadKnight> and nokia making deals with microsoft... makes me wonder a bit about qt and kde..
[08:16] <Gulfstream> does the latest daily install without issue?
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[09:58] <edgy> Hi, vlc: Media -> Open file, takes too long to bring dolphin dialog box, seems to be a kde issue, can someone confirm?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> anyone know if it is possible to add a custom launcher on the gnome panel(unity)
[10:00] <gnomefreak> edgy: sorry i havent installed kde yet. i have a few more things to work out in gnome before i start installing other DEs
[10:01] <Daekdroom> gnomefreak, to the panel? I don't think so.
[10:02] <minotux> googleearth print "** is not gtk(2)" and then quit...., can anyone help?
[10:02] <Daekdroom> The biggest customizability you can do is change the panel color according to GTK+ theme and its opacity.
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Daekdroom: there seems to be alot of limits on what you can do to panel, maybe gconf has some other options but that is a lot to look through
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Daekdroom: how do i do that?
[10:03] <edgy> gnomefreak: np, thanks for your care anyway
[10:03] <Daekdroom> gnomefreak, ccsm has some unity options
[10:03] <Daekdroom> They're listed under the Unity Ubuntu Plugin
[10:04] <Daekdroom> and the options are slowly growing
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Daekdroom: is ccsm installed by default?
[10:04] <Daekdroom> iirc, no
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Daekdroom: ok thanks. i thought ccsm was for compiz but ill look
[10:07] <Daekdroom> gnomefreak, it is for compiz
[10:07] <Daekdroom> gnomefreak, if I hadn't read about the options it gives to unity, I wouldn't figure it out
[10:08] <gnomefreak> defswork: ah ok i thought it was strictly compiz, and i wasnt sure if unity was using compiz
[10:10] <dupondje> mmm
[10:10] <dupondje> new kernel upgrade seems to break display
[10:11] <gnomefreak> dupondje: maybe your problem is related to the link in the topic? i have no problems with display
[10:12] <dupondje> nope
[10:12] <dupondje> its since kernel update yesterday evening
[10:12] <dupondje> rebooting with older kernel works fine ..
[10:12] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[10:12] <gnomefreak> nvidia card?
[10:12] <dupondje> ati
[10:13] <gnomefreak> me too
[10:13] <gnomefreak> sorry i dont know, i havent been keeping up to date with breaks for the last month or so
[10:14] <dupondje> hard to debug ofc without any visible char on the screen :P
[10:17] <gnomefreak> i agree
[10:24] <dupondje> nothing in the xorg logs :s
[10:30] <gnomefreak> dupondje: what is wrong with the disply? did you lose X altogether?
[10:31] <dupondje> I see everything starts correctly, as I see a purple glow :p
[10:31] <dupondje> but its 1 artifact ...
[10:31] <gnomefreak> dupondje: unity or classic gnome?
[10:32] <dupondje> classic
[10:32] <dupondje> but doesn't matter ?
[10:32] <dupondje> its already @ the login screen
[10:34] <gnomefreak> dupondje: well it can. like i was under the assumption that unity didnt use compiz
[10:34] <gnomefreak> oh it happens on login screeen?
[10:34] <dupondje> ye
[10:35] <dupondje> @ some stage it starts the vga driver I bet
[10:35] <dupondje> and then screen gets corrupted :)
[10:37] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm and you are usin the ait driver right not the flgrx(cant recall the exact name of it)
[10:38] <gnomefreak> sorry this is my firrst computer with amd and ati
[10:38] <gnomefreak> well i used ati back in breezy IIRC
[10:39] <dupondje> not the closed indeed
[10:39] <dupondje> but the ati driver :)
[10:39] <dupondje> mmm
[10:39] <dupondje> found it
[10:39] <dupondje> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9f4283f49f0a96a64c5a45fe56f0f8c942885eef
[10:40] <gnomefreak> its a bug in the kernel?
[10:40] <dupondje> ye
[10:41] <gnomefreak> oh
[10:41] <gnomefreak> thats odd because i use ati drivers and the pae kernel(also a first for me)
[10:41] <gnomefreak> odd as in im not seeing an issue
[10:42] <dupondje> but what ati card you have ?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> hd4200
[10:43] <gnomefreak> im guessing the "hd" part is high def. but i dont use high def only because i dont know how to set it up other than using a cable for it
[10:44] <gnomefreak> you know. ivve been around since brezzy dev cycle and there is still alot of things i never used :(
[10:45] <gnomefreak> ok ccsm now, or maybe gconf has settings for panel including removing some icons
[10:51] <dupondje> lets grab a daily :)
[11:02] <gnomefreak>  will ccsm allow me to enable some things. example rain or snow on desktop and enabling the cube?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> if not what would i use if i even can. this is for unity
[11:03] <gnomefreak> also is there a place i can find out some info on my proc
[11:40] <gnomefreak> sad news today. it seems we are dropping Mutter in Unity for Compiz
[12:12] <ior3k> so anyone knows what's in store for us non-unity-using users?
[12:12] <ior3k> all I need is xmonad and a vertical gnome-panel on the left side
[12:13] <ior3k> I assume gnome-panel will eventually be phased out, right?
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[15:26] <lanoxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590793&page=36 <--- post #360, can anyone tell me if it is a known bug that it is necessary to add a udev rule for scanner devices?
[15:30] <gartral|cr48> I know this isn't really high priority, but i'd like too address the problems with the way powermanagment is done and see if there are ways too fix screen backlight control when the lid closes.
[15:39] <weboide> Can someone help me with LVM? I'm trying to do something simple but it keeps failing
[15:39] <weboide> I'm trying to see if that's bug or if it's just me.
[15:39] <gartral|cr48> I know this isn't really high priority, but i'd like too address the problems with the way powermanagment is done and see if there are ways too fix screen backlight control when the lid closes.
[15:41] <weboide> has someone already encountered "device-mapper: deps ioctl failed: No such device or address" ?
[15:52] <twager> Anyone using gnome3 ?
[15:54] <BUGabundo> no
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[15:58] <twager> BUGabundo: I like it in Maverick and thought I might try it in Natty...Will give it a whirl
[15:59] <BUGabundo> should be in some PPA
[16:00] <twager> Synaptic shows it..
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[19:14] <alex_mayorga> anyone using Google's 2 way verification and Empathy?
[19:17] <alex_mayorga> never mind
[19:44] <dupondje> ok :)
[19:44] <dupondje> daily kernel fixes ati issue
[19:44] <dupondje> good :D
[19:45] <coz_> cool
[19:45] <coz_> now if only nvidia were fixed :)
[19:47] <coz_> Ubuntu one  losing connection and restoring connetion  many times within a minute :(
[19:49] <dupondje> new kernel uploaded yesterday seems to break ATI :p so
[19:52] <yofel> coz_: just got that too here
[19:52] <coz_> yofel,  ooo good , at least I know its not just my system :)
[19:53] <coz_> yofel,  it is not consistent at least in terms  of "timing"
[19:54] <yofel> can't remember when it last happened here, but I haven't been using u1 for too long currently
[19:54] <penguin42> out of interest (not having updated) how exactly does it fail?
[19:55] <coz_> UbuntuOne?
[19:55] <penguin42> ati
[19:55] <coz_> oh sorry :)
[19:56] <yofel> well, at least glibc seems fixed :)
[19:56] <dupondje> penguin42: screen is corrupt
[19:56] <dupondje> nothing visible :(
[19:56] <penguin42> does ctrl-alt-f1 work?
[19:56] <dupondje> nope
[19:57] <penguin42> hohum
[19:57] <dupondje> its a bug in kms
[19:57] <dupondje> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9f4283f49f0a96a64c5a45fe56f0f8c942885eef
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[23:10] <BUGabundo> o/
[23:12] <BUGabundo> akgraner: around ?
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[23:18] <hggdh> anyone having the indicator applet bellying up?
[23:18] <hggdh> (classical desktop)
[23:18] <Daekdroom> hggdh, bellying up?
[23:19] <bazhang> failing
[23:19] <Daekdroom> Yep. Mine is.
[23:19] <Daekdroom> But I managed to make it not crash
[23:19] <hggdh> Daekdroom: how?
[23:19] <Daekdroom> I kill all indicator- processes, then try to reload it
[23:19] <BUGabundo> hggdh: I had zeroconf applet
[23:19] <Daekdroom> It eventually works
[23:20] <hggdh> I can have the simple indicator-applet-session only. Initially I could restore the -complete, but no more
[23:20] <Daekdroom> I'm using the -complete
[23:20] <hggdh> BUGabundo: zeroconf?
[23:20] <BUGabundo> avihi
[23:20] <hggdh> Daekdroom: I *was*
[23:21] <hggdh> BUGabundo: I am lost. What does avihi have to do with indicator-applet?
[23:21]  * hggdh keeps on being ignorant of desktops...
[23:22] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:22] <BUGabundo> you said you have probs with one applet
[23:22] <BUGabundo> I replied saying ONE of my applets was having probs too
[23:23] <Daekdroom> I don't know who to blame
[23:23] <BUGabundo> in my case zeroconf applet
[23:23] <Daekdroom> I'm using liferea, xchat, pidgin, indicator-weather and gm-notify
[23:23] <Daekdroom> But as of right now, all of them are running and so is indicator-applet-complete
[23:28] <hggdh> I hope they keep on...
[23:46] <weboide> Hey guys, does anybody why php5-fpm isn't in natty? it's not in the FTBFS list at least..
[23:47] <bazhang> !find php5
[23:48] <ubottu> Found: libapache2-mod-php5, php5, php5-cgi, php5-cli, php5-common, php5-curl, php5-dbg, php5-dev, php5-gd, php5-gmp (and 45 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php5&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[23:48] <weboide> bazhang: I checked packages.ubuntu.com already, it does not show up.. :(
[23:49] <yofel> it indeed isn't there, might have been removed for some reason, a quick search didn't find a removal request though
[23:49] <bazhang> its been removed
[23:49] <weboide> and it seems to have a trace of having a package in natty in launchpad
[23:49] <bazhang> it was there in maverick however
[23:50] <weboide> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/php5-fpm
[23:50] <yofel> ah wait, the source is php5
[23:51] <weboide> ah probably hasn't build yet?
[23:53] <weboide> it has been superseded by 5.3.3-7ubuntu1, but I guess this does not contain php5-fpm
[23:53] <yofel> from php5 (5.3.3-2) unstable; urgency=low:
[23:53] <yofel>   * Don't build FPM SAPI now
[23:53] <yofel> maybe they dropped it there
[23:53] <yofel> weboide: here's the full changelog https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.3.3-7ubuntu1
[23:54] <weboide> thanks yofel, that might be why..
[23:56]  * yofel checks packaging VCS
[23:57] <weboide> yofel: I'll have to wait 5.3.5-1
[23:57] <weboide> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/current/changelog
[23:57] <yofel> ah
[23:58] <weboide> I don't know what the heck happened...