[00:00] <rcn-ee> "required"
[00:01] <pmathews> no luck with " find / -name manadority -maxdepth 6" either
[00:01] <pmathews> or "which manadority"
[00:02] <rcn-ee> bug: 510130 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-January/008518.html
[00:02] <rcn-ee> sillybot seems slow... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/mountall/+bug/510130
[00:02] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 510130 in linux-ec2 "ec2 instance fails to boot if registered without ramdisk" [High,Fix released]
[00:06] <pmathews> got it - you meant mandatory
[12:30] <sim_> hi. which qemu gives best results for beagleboard ubuntu-arm?
[12:30] <ogra> the one in natty
[12:31] <sim_> ok, looking...
[12:32] <sim_> would that be qemu-system-arm?
[12:34] <sim_> ogra, is it in qemu-kvm-extras.
[12:36] <ogra> that should be a transitional package, but yes, it should get you the right bits
[12:37] <sim_> any change i will get it to work by rebuild of source package from natty under maverick?
[12:38] <ogra> if you rebuild the right one, you want the qemu-linaro source package, it uses omap by default for all VMs in natty
[12:39] <sim_> ah, qemu-kvm_0.14.0~rc1+noroms-0ubuntu3.dsc no good?
[12:39] <ogra> no, look for qemu-linaro
[12:40] <sim_> found it
[12:40] <sim_> shall i configure and compile from trunk/2011.02 instead?
[12:41] <ogra> i think thats the same as what is in natty atm
[12:41] <sim_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/qemu-linaro says newer version avail
[12:43] <sim_> do you know quick tip to install builddeps, i can take package names from dsc, but there might be a better way.
[12:43] <ogra> "for packaging"
[12:44] <ogra> just sudo apt-get build-dep qemu-kvm should suffice
[12:44] <sim_> ok
[12:44] <ogra> i doubt they changed much between natty and maverick
[12:44] <sim_> indeed
[12:46] <sim_> LOL: E: Unable to find a source package for should
[13:01] <sim_> is bootloader for beagle included in qemu-linaro?
[13:07] <sim_> is ../ubuntu-10.04-netbook-armel+omap.img an SD card  image?
[13:17] <ogra> sim_, yes, its supposed to be dd'ed to an sd and contains two partitions, the rootfs partition gets expanded to the full size of the SD on first boot
[13:19] <sim_> im puzzling on the qemu-system-arm cmdline.
[13:19] <sim_> does it load the kernel from the SD, or do i need to spec it on the cmdline?
[13:22] <ogra> i think you need to spec it on cmdline
[13:22] <ogra> but tbh i havent tried the linaro packages yet, there might be a way to just use u-boot from the image
[13:23] <sim_> u-boot resides in flash i guess, so i should build a flash image first and present to qemu on cmdline?
[13:24] <sim_> -mtdblock i think?
[13:25] <ogra> u-boot resides on the first partition of the SD card image
[13:25] <ogra> none of the boards we currently build for have flash
[13:25] <ogra> (while you can use a beagle C4 with the images its not really recomended and the XM which we test on has no flash)
[13:39] <sim_> ogra, its a casper image
[13:39] <ogra> ??
[13:40] <sim_> i unpacked ubuntu-10.04-netbook-armel+omap.img and it looks like a bootcd
[13:40] <ogra> yes
[13:40] <sim_> ah, its a live image.
[13:40] <ogra> no
[13:40] <ogra> its a preinstalled image that expands itself to the full size of the card on first boot
[13:41] <sim_> ok
[13:41] <ogra> nothing "live" in there
[13:41] <sim_> do you know the qemu cmdline i should use to boot it?
[13:41] <ogra> no, sorry, check the linaro documentation
[13:41] <ogra> they likely have info on their wiki
[13:42] <sim_> ok thanks.
[13:59] <sim_> ogra, is there nand emulation in qemu?
[14:00] <ogra> no idea, might be for some ancient machines
[14:01] <sim_> beagleboard has NAND
[15:01] <brendand_> hi
[15:01] <brendand_> i have a beagleboard C4 which i'd like to use for some tinkering around
[15:02] <brendand_> it appears to be configured so that it 'autoboots' after some timeout if i don't press a key
[15:02] <brendand_> using minicom i can't seem to send a keypress such that it cancels the autoboot
[15:02] <brendand_> so it's kind of useless fo me at the moment
[15:02] <brendand_> is there anything unusual i need to do to send keypresses over serial?
[15:03] <brendand_> input is coming over just fine it seems
[15:04] <rcn-ee> brendand_, is this a fresh install that you did, or did someone else set it up for you?
[15:04] <brendand_> well, i'd say i got it from someone else, but that would be lying
[15:04] <brendand_> i actually used to do some stuff on it with Windows
[15:05] <brendand_> and hyperterminal worked fine for sending keystrokes
[15:05] <rcn-ee> okay, well the 'autoboot's' is not normal.. so either some configured it do that.. or... ;)
[15:05] <brendand_> i did
[15:05] <brendand_> :P
[15:05] <brendand_> yes - i got myself in this situation...
[15:05] <brendand_> embarrasing
[15:05] <rcn-ee> so undo it?
[15:05] <rcn-ee> if you don't remember what you did, just reinstall it a base os and start again..
[15:06] <brendand_> that would be one way. wouldn't i still need to be able to send keystrokes to do anything with u-boot?
[15:06] <rcn-ee> ah.. u-boot's autoboot..
[15:06] <rcn-ee> so you don't want it to autoboot, but stay in u-boot?
[15:06] <brendand_> yeees
[15:06] <brendand_> well. i think i do
[15:07] <brendand_> certainly i'd like to be able to interact with u-boot in some way
[15:08] <rcn-ee> well... in u-boot, type printenv... you'll see the whole enviroment scripts including the autoboot stuff..
[15:09] <rcn-ee> but your on your own..i just use u-boot as a bootloader, nothing else..
[15:09] <brendand_> http://pastebin.com/GHZayL8m
[15:10] <brendand_> at line 13 i'm just hammering keys and it counts down from 3
[15:10] <brendand_> ah
[15:10] <rcn-ee> thru the serial terminal?
[15:10] <brendand_> yeah
[15:11] <rcn-ee> has it worked before?
[15:11] <brendand_> in windows
[15:11] <rcn-ee> ah.. dump minicom... use gtkterm..
[15:12] <brendand_> will do
[15:12] <brendand_> have also tried putty and screen, with no success. let's see how this works
[16:36] <Neko> ogra, there? anyone else who knows how linux-fsl-imx51 worked and why there is a seperate debian.fsl-imx51 directory?
[17:00] <ogra> Neko, no idea and imx51 is removed from the archive since quite some time, fo rthe subdir talk to the kernel team during workhours, if you want to use imx51 today, use the linaro kernel
[17:10] <ogra> (though the linaro flavour is called differently)
[20:46] <Neko> ogra, it's for our kernel...
[20:47] <Neko> because we use make-kpkg we have no .dsc and therefore don't get any virtual packages for linux-image-efikamx for now
[20:48] <Neko> I don't care about fsl-imx51 but I do care that it is the only reference for this arch in ubuntu that has a debian directory that "works" for us.. seems the scripts were updated for 2.6.35+ and they don't build .31 kernels anymore. we're not spending the time to port to .35 just to fix a package error :D
[20:48] <Neko> (there are other reasons pressuring that but not packaging :)