[19:49] ok. [19:57] hey kellnola [19:57] um, yeah? [19:58] is this a Louisiana channel, specifically?\ [19:59] yeah [19:59] there must be at least 5 or 6 debian/ubuntu nerds in LA! [19:59] where are you from Rob? [19:59] I'm in Metairie [19:59] New Orleans here [19:59] I figured :) [20:00] :) [20:00] r2d2rogers is in Monroe, I think DaCeige is in the nola area [20:00] tho I've met some Houma linux nerds here and there [20:00] MONROE! [20:00] you poor thing! [20:00] this channel's been pretty dormant for a good while, though I'd love to see that change [20:01] there are precious few unix, let alone linux jobs here. It's painful, cause I know NONE of us want to leave [20:01] yeah I'm looking at a primarily windows server-related job [20:02] bummer [20:02] windows server isn't so bad these days [20:02] I just got out of a dev job in a mac shop [20:02] windows desktop --- yikes [20:02] eh. I run 7 at home [20:02] I just fired my ubuntu box back up yesterday [20:03] hell I've been strictly linux since 1995 or so (personally, on my desktop) [20:03] I came to the conclusion a while back that life's too short to hardcore OS bash [20:03] I actually enjoyed using mac [20:04] but it's much more unix-like than windows is [20:04] yeah but windows raises my blood pressure. I'm not young anymore [20:05] I'm actually running a virtualized Plan 9 environment within ubuntu x-forwarded to windows 7 on my desktop to which I'm remoted in from my vista laptop in the other room [20:05] after ten years at a strictly unix gig (MMS), I'm at a company that does a lot of small client windows type service. I'm fucking lost with windows these days [20:06] due to the logging bot, we try to watch the language in here [20:06] * Robdgreat nods to locobot_4 [20:06] erm, excuse me [20:06] :) [20:07] so, how do we push desktop / general linux usage these days? I really think it is a no-brainer for most small companies [20:08] yet they are resistant to the end [20:08] That's something I regrettably haven't had the spare cycles to devote to in a little while [20:09] Seriously, open office is pretty much on par with MS office now, there are plenty of alternatives to MS Exchange, etc. [20:09] agreed [20:10] I've been interested in more arcane systems recently [20:10] I mean really, Ubuntu is a wonderful desktop by anyone's standards. [20:10] like? Xerox PARC? LOL [20:11] c64 [20:11] OMFG [20:11] ya rly [20:11] you are hardcore [20:11] I missed out the first time around, and my recent interest was piqued from a music composition standpoint [20:11] I vaguely remember writing programs that drew geometric shapes for C64 in high school [20:11] music? [20:12] yeah, that's what keeps the C64 somewhat relevant to this day [20:12] Ubuntu / Debian has awesome music programs ... ever looked at Solfege? [20:12] it did have the most sophisticated consumer sound chip ever developed [20:12] it's the standard for 8-bit music [20:13] I wish there had been something like Solfege when I was a music major [20:14] you must have missed the Amiga [20:14] I did [20:14] Amiga was way ahead of it's time [20:15] popular around 1991-94 [20:15] that was my understanding [20:15] yeah I know about it, I just missed out the first time [20:15] I do have an emulator, though [20:15] and I want to get my hands on a1200 or so [20:15] you can get any of that on ebay I'm sure [20:15] oh sure [20:16] but not necessarily for a cost I can justify at this time [20:16] but at this point it's just nostalgic [20:16] there's still a thriving c64 demoscene [20:16] really? [20:16] granted, it's very predominantly european [20:17] my understanding is the amiga scene is smaller [20:17] as a desktop user I'm mostly into video, but the linux offerings, while feature-wise are OK, they tend to crash all the time [20:18] OpenShot and Pittivi in particular [20:19] where do you work Rob? [20:27] doh