[19:49] <Robdgreat> ok.
[19:57] <Robdgreat> hey kellnola
[19:57] <kellnola> um, yeah?
[19:58] <kellnola> is this a Louisiana channel, specifically?\
[19:59] <Robdgreat> yeah
[19:59] <kellnola> there must be at least 5 or 6 debian/ubuntu nerds in LA!
[19:59] <kellnola> where are you from Rob?
[19:59] <Robdgreat> I'm in Metairie
[19:59] <kellnola> New Orleans here
[19:59] <Robdgreat> I figured :)
[20:00] <kellnola> :)
[20:00] <Robdgreat> r2d2rogers is in Monroe, I think DaCeige is in the nola area
[20:00] <kellnola> tho I've met some Houma linux nerds here and there
[20:00] <kellnola> MONROE!
[20:00] <kellnola> you poor thing!
[20:00] <Robdgreat> this channel's been pretty dormant for a good while, though I'd love to see that change
[20:01] <kellnola> there are precious few unix, let alone linux jobs here. It's painful, cause I know NONE of us want to leave
[20:01] <Robdgreat> yeah I'm looking at a primarily windows server-related job
[20:02] <kellnola> bummer
[20:02] <kellnola> windows server isn't so bad these days
[20:02] <Robdgreat> I just got out of a dev job in a mac shop
[20:02] <kellnola> windows desktop --- yikes
[20:02] <Robdgreat> eh. I run 7 at home
[20:02] <Robdgreat> I just fired my ubuntu box back up yesterday
[20:03] <kellnola> hell I've been strictly linux since 1995 or so (personally, on my desktop)
[20:03] <Robdgreat> I came to the conclusion a while back that life's too short to hardcore OS bash
[20:03] <Robdgreat> I actually enjoyed using mac
[20:04] <Robdgreat> but it's much more unix-like than windows is
[20:04] <kellnola> yeah but windows raises my blood pressure. I'm  not young anymore
[20:05] <Robdgreat> I'm actually running a virtualized Plan 9 environment within ubuntu x-forwarded to windows 7 on my desktop to which I'm remoted in from my vista laptop in the other room
[20:05] <kellnola> after ten years at a strictly unix gig (MMS), I'm at a company that does a lot of small client windows type service. I'm fucking lost with windows these days
[20:06] <Robdgreat> due to the logging bot, we try to watch the language in here
[20:06]  * Robdgreat nods to locobot_4 
[20:06] <kellnola> erm, excuse me
[20:06] <Robdgreat> :)
[20:07] <kellnola> so, how do we push desktop / general linux usage these days? I really think it is a no-brainer for most small companies
[20:08] <kellnola> yet they are resistant to the end
[20:08] <Robdgreat> That's something I regrettably haven't had the spare cycles to devote to in a little while
[20:09] <kellnola> Seriously, open office is pretty much on par with MS office now, there are plenty of alternatives to MS Exchange, etc.
[20:09] <Robdgreat> agreed
[20:10] <Robdgreat> I've been interested in more arcane systems recently
[20:10] <kellnola> I mean really, Ubuntu is a wonderful desktop by anyone's standards.
[20:10] <kellnola> like? Xerox PARC? LOL
[20:11] <Robdgreat> c64
[20:11] <kellnola> OMFG
[20:11] <Robdgreat> ya rly
[20:11] <kellnola> you are hardcore
[20:11] <Robdgreat> I missed out the first time around, and my recent interest was piqued from a music composition standpoint
[20:11] <kellnola> I vaguely remember writing programs that drew geometric shapes for C64 in high school
[20:11] <kellnola> music?
[20:12] <Robdgreat> yeah, that's what keeps the C64 somewhat relevant to this day
[20:12] <kellnola> Ubuntu / Debian has awesome music programs ... ever looked at Solfege?
[20:12] <Robdgreat> it did have the most sophisticated consumer sound chip ever developed
[20:12] <Robdgreat> it's the standard for 8-bit music
[20:13] <kellnola> I wish there had been something like Solfege when I was a music major
[20:14] <kellnola> you must have missed the Amiga
[20:14] <Robdgreat> I did
[20:14] <kellnola> Amiga was way ahead of it's time
[20:15] <kellnola> popular around 1991-94
[20:15] <Robdgreat> that was my understanding
[20:15] <Robdgreat> yeah I know about it, I just missed out the first time
[20:15] <Robdgreat> I do have an emulator, though
[20:15] <Robdgreat> and I want to get my hands on a1200 or so
[20:15] <kellnola> you can get any of that on ebay I'm sure
[20:15] <Robdgreat> oh sure
[20:16] <Robdgreat> but not necessarily for a cost I can justify at this time
[20:16] <kellnola> but at this point it's just nostalgic
[20:16] <Robdgreat> there's still a thriving c64 demoscene
[20:16] <kellnola> really?
[20:16] <Robdgreat> granted, it's very predominantly european
[20:17] <Robdgreat> my understanding is the amiga scene is smaller
[20:17] <kellnola> as a desktop user I'm mostly into video, but the linux offerings, while feature-wise are OK, they tend to crash all the time
[20:18] <kellnola> OpenShot and Pittivi in particular
[20:19] <kellnola> where do you work Rob?
[20:27] <Robdgreat> doh