| nlsthzn | Morning all :) | 04:46 |
|---|---|---|
| bmg505 | good morning | 04:46 |
| bmg505 | back from midweek break | 04:46 |
| nlsthzn | cool :) | 04:47 |
| Symmetria | *sigh* | 06:05 |
| Symmetria | I so dont wanna fly this afternoon | 06:05 |
| nlsthzn | Symmetria: where too? | 06:05 |
| Symmetria | hong kong | 06:05 |
| Symmetria | flying to hong kong this afternoon, spend a week there, get back on sunday, then 2 weeks later back to europe | 06:06 |
| Symmetria | then shortly after that gotta be in tanzania for 3 days and then a few after that back to europe and then to mexico, this year is gonna be harsh | 06:07 |
| nlsthzn | world travler :) | 06:07 |
| Symmetria | heh been travelling like this for the last 6 years, but this year is gonna be particularly busy | 06:07 |
| Symmetria | travelling used to be fun :P now its just a ballache | 06:08 |
| nlsthzn | can't say I care much for airports :/ worst part of flying | 06:09 |
| Symmetria | heh airports arent bad providing you have the lounge access | 06:09 |
| Symmetria | airports without the lounge access make me wanna shoot myself in the head | 06:10 |
| bmg505 | I'd rather take a 4pound hammer to my own tools than fly | 06:11 |
| Symmetria | lol, never work for tenet then | 06:11 |
| bmg505 | I used to fly like hell in the 90's that cured me for life from flying | 06:12 |
| * nlsthzn likes flying, then again I don't get the oppertunity that often :) | 06:12 | |
| Symmetria | all of us fly a fair bit, not nearly as much as the ceo and I in most cases, but there is a fair amount of it | 06:12 |
| Symmetria | heh nlsthzn like I said, flying is... glamarous at first, but when you're spending a few hundred hours a year in planes, they become like, long, boring, uncomfortable buses | 06:12 |
| bmg505 | OR tambo ground staff greeted me by name, and the question after good morning was, were to this morning? | 06:13 |
| nlsthzn | I can believe you... like the difference beween a hobby and a job :) | 06:13 |
| bmg505 | uncomfortable buses is a very very accurate description | 06:14 |
| Symmetria | lol bmg, I've gotten to know most of the crews on the jhb -> cpt legs | 06:14 |
| bmg505 | a friend of mine called it a cattle truck | 06:14 |
| Symmetria | LOL the 6am flight to joburg is the true cattle run | 06:15 |
| bmg505 | inm the 90's there was basically 2 crews that worked that route, flew it at least once a week | 06:15 |
| bmg505 | or the late night limited services flights | 06:16 |
| bmg505 | strongest you can get is double disprin and water | 06:16 |
| Symmetria | heh, the flight to hong kong is one of my least favorite flights | 06:16 |
| Symmetria | the only flight really worse than it is a flight to the US | 06:16 |
| Symmetria | because both are insanely long flights | 06:17 |
| Symmetria | tonights flight = 14 hours + 2 hours to get to joburg | 06:17 |
| bmg505 | yea bad, I used to enjoy flying forward, but losing time always killed my bio-clock | 06:17 |
| bmg505 | so flying east was ok, but going west is a killer for me | 06:18 |
| nlsthzn | my only fligth currently is UAE to SA and back... only two hours difference and only 8 hours flight so not to bad:) | 06:18 |
| bmg505 | and flying north with layovers in brussels or dubai | 06:18 |
| bmg505 | that flight is 9 hours too long :) | 06:19 |
| Symmetria | heh the flight through to washington is a killer | 06:19 |
| Symmetria | fuck I almost forgot to clear my credit cards for this trip, stupid banks will lock em if I dont | 06:23 |
| Symmetria | heh | 06:33 |
| Symmetria | <3 nedbank private bank | 06:34 |
| Symmetria | heh, private banker always answers her phone, always does what I need instantly, and never gives me any shit, and I never have to go near a branch | 06:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 07:37 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 07:37 | |
| nlsthzn | hey uncle Kilos | 07:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, with cremora | 07:37 |
| Maaz | Ah! At last someone with taste | 07:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, and milk | 07:37 |
| Maaz | Now you're talking | 07:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, and sugar | 07:38 |
| Maaz | Do something yourself Kilos | 07:38 |
| Kilos | howdy every one awake | 07:38 |
| nlsthzn | brb, gotto relocate the PC... | 07:39 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 07:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 07:43 |
| Maaz | You're Welcome I'm sure | 07:43 |
| Symmetria | HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Man.... the department of homeland security in the US | 08:10 |
| Symmetria | "accidently" siezed 84 THOUSAND domains | 08:10 |
| Symmetria | and redirected them to a page that said the domains were taken down pending investigations for child porn | 08:10 |
| Symmetria | they sites had nothing child pornish about them, most of them were small businessses and personal websites | 08:10 |
| Cantide | 안녕~ | 10:05 |
| nlsthzn | Hi Cantide | 10:06 |
| Cantide | hi | 10:06 |
| nlsthzn | whats up with the korean? | 10:07 |
| Cantide | sorry¸trying to get this input method working | 10:07 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 10:07 |
| Cantide | just installed 10·10 | 10:07 |
| Cantide | heh, it's tricky... SCIM was better... easier :| | 10:09 |
| Cantide | aha, making progress | 10:11 |
| Cantide | does anyone know how i can import my old Thunderbird emails successfully? | 10:11 |
| Cantide | I tried to copy the files, but it failed :| | 10:11 |
| nlsthzn | Cantide: don't know Thunderbird but I suspect you should have exported it first so you can now import them :/ | 10:23 |
| Cantide | :< | 10:24 |
| superfly | Cantide: just copy the whole .mozilla or .thunderbird directory | 10:24 |
| Cantide | i don't think there was an export option | 10:24 |
| Cantide | superfly, i tried that, it didn't work | 10:24 |
| superfly | I did it the other day, worked perfectly | 10:24 |
| superfly | so yeah, if that doesn't work, I'm afraid I don't know | 10:24 |
| Cantide | i read a few 'tutorials' online before i installed the new Ubuntu, they all said to just copy the files :| | 10:24 |
| superfly | ask Google | 10:24 |
| Cantide | i asked, it tells me the same thing lol | 10:25 |
| superfly | heh | 10:25 |
| Cantide | i think it might be because the version i had before was 2.x and the one i have now is 3.x | 10:25 |
| Cantide | so there must be some difference regarding the storage of the files :| | 10:25 |
| Cantide | anyway, gotta go shopping :| thanks for the help though | 10:26 |
| Cantide | i'll just idle here until i get back | 10:26 |
| Cantide | *AFK* | 10:26 |
| Cantide | wb nlsthzn | 11:33 |
| Cantide | :p | 11:33 |
| nlsthzn | Cantide: thanks... just upgraded my lappies ram to 2gb and installled a new keyboard :) nice to have it running at full power now :) | 11:36 |
| Cantide | cool :D | 11:37 |
| Cantide | new keyboard? as in USB keyboard, or the laptop's built in keyboard? | 11:37 |
| Cantide | built-in * | 11:37 |
| kbmonkey | 'day all | 11:38 |
| Cantide | hey kbmonkey | 11:39 |
| nlsthzn | Cantide: built in keyboard... | 11:40 |
| Cantide | was it difficult? | 11:40 |
| Cantide | seems like a mission to me... but i guess i've never done it | 11:40 |
| nlsthzn | got a manual from the net and once I figured out the bloody zif xocket it was a breeze :) | 11:41 |
| kbmonkey | more ram is always good :) | 11:42 |
| nlsthzn | Thing is, I never used the 1GB that was installed fully to be honest... so I don't know if I will really see such a big improvement | 11:43 |
| Cantide | :P | 11:43 |
| Cantide | still, rather too much than too little | 11:43 |
| nlsthzn | overkill is underrated | 11:43 |
| Cantide | i'm almost ready to give up on my mail and cut it as a loss lol | 11:44 |
| Cantide | which hex editors are good for Ubuntu ? | 11:44 |
| * nlsthzn has no knowledge of the arcane arts | 11:44 | |
| kbmonkey | ram is good for when you run many VM's and such :) | 11:44 |
| kbmonkey | I like octeta hex editor | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | *okteta | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | its kde based though | 11:45 |
| nlsthzn | true... I refrained from virtualbox due to the one gig problem... now I can mini distro hop :D | 11:45 |
| Cantide | hmm | 11:46 |
| Cantide | maybe i'll settle for gHex then :| | 11:46 |
| Cantide | i might just try to rip the headers from a Thunderbird 3.x mail file and superimpose it on my 2.x mail files | 11:53 |
| kbmonkey | or try hexer, its a vi-like hex editor :) | 11:55 |
| drubin | nlsthzn: where is your irc bouncer located? never seen an ip starting with a single digit :) | 11:58 |
| nlsthzn | drubin: english please :p | 11:58 |
| drubin | nlsthzn: what country is your quassel hosted in | 11:59 |
| nlsthzn | drubin: I have no idea... afaik I am just connecting to irc.freenode.com... I am in the UAE... is there a command or something I can use to give you more info? | 12:00 |
| nlsthzn | freenode.net | 12:00 |
| drubin | nlsthzn: Nah don't worry :) | 12:00 |
| Cantide | TOR works pretty well as a proxy .-. | 12:01 |
| Cantide | but sloooow for anything that's bandwidth intensive :| | 12:01 |
| nlsthzn | I am not running any proxies currently... | 12:01 |
| kbmonkey | my IP was banned from freenode last week, policy against running tor relays :p | 12:08 |
| Cantide | hehe | 12:11 |
| Kilos | evening all | 18:01 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 18:01 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 18:01 | |
| nlsthzn | Go BULLE! | 18:02 |
| nlsthzn | erm... hi all :p | 18:02 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 18:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee for all | 18:02 |
| Maaz | Sure thing Kilos... Hey guy's!! Bring your mugs. I am tired of doing all the dishes on my own. | 18:02 |
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos | 18:02 |
| Kilos | well ty you and you | 18:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz, rusks please | 18:05 |
| Maaz | There is a packet of Ouma's on the top shelf | 18:05 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 18:05 |
| confluency | "guy's"?! | 18:05 |
| confluency | Guy's what? | 18:06 |
| Kilos | hehe hiya confluency | 18:06 |
| Kilos | guys is all peeps in the area | 18:06 |
| nlsthzn | me ok... listening to the rugby.. video streaming over net sucks :( | 18:07 |
| confluency | I was making fun of the spelling. :P | 18:07 |
| * nlsthzn spies grammar nazi :p | 18:07 | |
| Cantide | live score over supersport.co.za sucks :( | 18:09 |
| nlsthzn | stream radio... | 18:09 |
| Kilos | aw is guys spelt wrong | 18:11 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, did you watch the sharks and cheetahs | 18:12 |
| nlsthzn | well... listened to the radio and watched a slide show :p | 18:12 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:13 |
| nlsthzn | most of it anycase | 18:13 |
| Cantide | Can Jantjies kick? | 18:14 |
| Kilos | ? | 18:14 |
| Cantide | he seems to have missed his kicks in this game... | 18:14 |
| Kilos | can anyone tell me why sudo apt-get update and then upgrade doesnt upgrade everything | 18:15 |
| Kilos | if you go to synaptic afterwards there is lots that still needs updating | 18:15 |
| nlsthzn | it should update all... | 18:16 |
| nlsthzn | I sometimes do aptitude after apt-get to make sure :D | 18:17 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: upgrade will upgrade packages that don't pull in new packages | 18:17 |
| Kilos | i had windows closing on their own yesterday and spent the day in synaptic reinstalling all gnome and audacious and some more and now all is good here | 18:18 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: ie, linux-kernel may depend on 'linux-kernel-2.6.24', after an upgrade it needs 'linux-kernel-2.6.25'. An 'apt-get upgrade' won't pull that new package in, and won't upgrade teh first package because of that | 18:18 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: apt-get dist-upgrade will however pull that new package in for you | 18:18 |
| Kilos | ah ty very much | 18:19 |
| Kilos | there are also lots of lib files that arent complete | 18:22 |
| Kilos | is there perhaps a command that will update everything? | 18:24 |
| linuxboy | apt-get dist-upgrade | 18:24 |
| Kilos | i mean even of the apps installed as well | 18:25 |
| Kilos | i copied /var/cache/apt/archives then did the update upgrade | 18:26 |
| linuxboy | it will upgrade any package that you have where there is a newer version, including teh packages that depends on a new package that isn't installed | 18:26 |
| Kilos | thanks linuxboy that will save me hours next time | 18:26 |
| linuxboy | also, why are you copying /var/cache/apt/archives? | 18:26 |
| Kilos | i saved it on an external and then did a clean install | 18:27 |
| linuxboy | oh | 18:27 |
| Kilos | all about saving data | 18:27 |
| linuxboy | you shouldn't do that | 18:27 |
| Kilos | oh | 18:27 |
| linuxboy | you should backup /etc/apt/sources.list | 18:27 |
| linuxboy | oh wait | 18:28 |
| linuxboy | sorry | 18:28 |
| linuxboy | thats fine | 18:28 |
| Kilos | hehe whats fine? | 18:28 |
| linuxboy | backing up /var/cache/apt/archives if you want to save bandwidth | 18:28 |
| Kilos | so its sudo backup /var/cache/apt/archives /media/backup | 18:30 |
| linuxboy | there is no command called backup | 18:30 |
| linuxboy | also, why are you bothering? to save bandwidth? | 18:30 |
| Kilos | i have the external split in backup and storage | 18:30 |
| Kilos | yip bandwidth kills me | 18:30 |
| linuxboy | get uncapped | 18:30 |
| Kilos | cant | 18:31 |
| linuxboy | why? | 18:31 |
| Kilos | i live by sister | 18:31 |
| Kilos | and they dont wanna pay a big fone bill | 18:31 |
| linuxboy | oh, you're on 3G? | 18:31 |
| Kilos | they have a kinda pay as you go account | 18:31 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:31 |
| linuxboy | spend that money on an adsl line :P | 18:32 |
| Kilos | just the fone account is a few hundred a month | 18:33 |
| Kilos | then still adsl | 18:33 |
| linuxboy | how much do you pay on 3G/ | 18:33 |
| Kilos | at times i use less than 500m data a month | 18:33 |
| linuxboy | for about R600 I'm sure you can get uncapped | 18:34 |
| Kilos | i rely on family to give what and when they can | 18:34 |
| Cantide | i'm using the Cell C data sim | 18:34 |
| linuxboy | ah | 18:34 |
| Kilos | 600m airtime is R189 | 18:35 |
| Cantide | works out cheap per gb ( not cheaper than ADSL, but I don't have a land line ) | 18:35 |
| Kilos | hehe at times i only have pidgin open | 18:35 |
| Kilos | and better times pidgin and xchat | 18:36 |
| Cantide | i'm the same, but i'm using more this month -.-v | 18:36 |
| Kilos | anyway we do what we can | 18:36 |
| Cantide | yeah | 18:37 |
| Kilos | i just use lots when i gotta do a clean install | 18:37 |
| Cantide | same, i did a clean install on Friday | 18:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:37 |
| Kilos | i had no choice | 18:37 |
| Cantide | and i decided not to try and install my old debs, because there's no point in installing a new OS, but using old apps :| | 18:37 |
| Kilos | got a bug that killed mbr on 2 drives | 18:38 |
| Cantide | :o | 18:38 |
| Cantide | that's nasty | 18:38 |
| Kilos | took weeks to fix it | 18:38 |
| Kilos | 80g drive would only take xp at times | 18:38 |
| Kilos | refused all ubuntu releases | 18:39 |
| Kilos | but now i got ubuntu only from a zeroed drive | 18:39 |
| Kilos | so no winsucks anywhere | 18:39 |
| Cantide | nice... i was too chicken to take the plunge | 18:40 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:40 |
| Cantide | so i'm dual booting again, but win 7 and 10.10 this time | 18:40 |
| Cantide | as opposed to XP and 9.10 that i had before :p | 18:40 |
| Kilos | i havent use ms for a year but tried everything to fix the mbr | 18:40 |
| Cantide | which version of Ubuntu do you have? | 18:40 |
| Kilos | i am using karmic now . i had 10.10 but thats when i crashed and was scared to try it again as the drive only took 9.10 | 18:41 |
| Cantide | :o | 18:42 |
| Cantide | don't say things like that :D | 18:42 |
| Kilos | maybe there a prob with my 10.10 cd | 18:42 |
| Cantide | i've only been using 10.10 for a day lol | 18:42 |
| Kilos | have ordered another | 18:42 |
| Kilos | maverick is great | 18:42 |
| Kilos | i loved it | 18:42 |
| Cantide | how long did you use it before it crashed? | 18:42 |
| Kilos | until 2 weeks ago | 18:43 |
| Cantide | Lions have almost caught up to the bulls :o | 18:43 |
| Kilos | from 2 weeks after it was released i think | 18:43 |
| Kilos | or 3 | 18:43 |
| Cantide | oh, quite long '< | 18:43 |
| Kilos | yeah its great | 18:43 |
| Kilos | i like everything on the left | 18:44 |
| Kilos | took some getting used to | 18:44 |
| Kilos | then had to learn again after going back to karmic | 18:44 |
| Cantide | everything on the left? | 18:44 |
| Kilos | the close down x | 18:44 |
| Kilos | etc | 18:45 |
| Cantide | aha | 18:45 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:45 |
| Cantide | that was only in one theme, i've already changed it :p | 18:45 |
| Kilos | i got used to it like that and enjoyed it | 18:45 |
| Cantide | :) | 18:47 |
| Cantide | i guess i never gave it a chance | 18:47 |
| Kilos | yeah it takes a while but if you dual booting windows it will mess with your head | 18:48 |
| Cantide | i barely ever use Windows... | 18:50 |
| Cantide | maybe once a week to play a game or something | 18:51 |
| Kilos | you will find you need to install aptitude and gdebi and gedit separately i think | 18:51 |
| Kilos | they arent part of the install as they were before | 18:51 |
| Cantide | gedit is here | 18:52 |
| Cantide | i use it a lot for php, so i made sure of that :D | 18:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:53 |
| Kilos | also it wants to install everything from software centre | 18:53 |
| Cantide | I want the Lions to win for a change, but it'll mess with my superbru predictions :-S | 18:54 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:54 |
| Cantide | yeah, i used to software center a lot today and it worked well for me | 18:54 |
| Kilos | time is gone | 18:54 |
| Cantide | oh | 18:54 |
| Kilos | 15 secs | 18:54 |
| Cantide | the 'live' score is clearly not live | 18:54 |
| Cantide | what's the score? | 18:54 |
| Kilos | they lost | 18:54 |
| Cantide | 20 - 24 ? | 18:54 |
| Kilos | 20/24 | 18:55 |
| Cantide | ah well, decent prediction then :D | 18:55 |
| Kilos | game over | 18:55 |
| Cantide | but that's impressive for the Lions | 18:55 |
| Cantide | especially the 2nd half | 18:55 |
| Kilos | yes they tried hard second half | 18:55 |
| Cantide | there is hope for them yet :) | 18:55 |
| Kilos | i prefer gdebi to software centre | 18:57 |
| Kilos | but thats me | 18:58 |
| Kilos | and synaptic of course | 18:58 |
| Cantide | i usually use the terminal to install stuff... not sure wht | 18:58 |
| Cantide | why * | 18:58 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:58 |
| Cantide | but lately i've been using software centre | 18:58 |
| Kilos | i been doing that lots lately too | 18:59 |
| Cantide | grr, software center * :@ | 18:59 |
| Kilos | n9o its too slow and you dont see whats happening | 18:59 |
| Cantide | what, software center? | 19:00 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:00 |
| Cantide | true, but it is simplier | 19:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:00 |
| Cantide | sometimes the terminal drives me crazy - if i'm lacking dependencies | 19:00 |
| Cantide | and then i don't know the package names etc. | 19:00 |
| Kilos | thats why i like synaptic and gdebi | 19:01 |
| Cantide | i'd still prefer to download a deb of each application, and store it somewhere, but they're always being updated :| | 19:01 |
| Kilos | in synaptic it sorts all dependancies for you | 19:01 |
| Kilos | they are all in /var/cache/apt/archives | 19:02 |
| Cantide | aha | 19:03 |
| Cantide | hence your backing up of that folder | 19:03 |
| Kilos | yip | 19:03 |
| Kilos | inetpro taught me that | 19:03 |
| Kilos | save like 300m data on a clean install of an old release | 19:03 |
| Cantide | '< | 19:06 |
| Cantide | sleep time :| | 19:06 |
| Cantide | good night -.- | 19:06 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:29 |
| Kilos | see ya morrow time | 19:29 |
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