[04:46] Morning all :) [04:46] good morning [04:46] back from midweek break [04:47] cool :) [06:05] *sigh* [06:05] I so dont wanna fly this afternoon [06:05] Symmetria: where too? [06:05] hong kong [06:06] flying to hong kong this afternoon, spend a week there, get back on sunday, then 2 weeks later back to europe [06:07] then shortly after that gotta be in tanzania for 3 days and then a few after that back to europe and then to mexico, this year is gonna be harsh [06:07] world travler :) [06:07] heh been travelling like this for the last 6 years, but this year is gonna be particularly busy [06:08] travelling used to be fun :P now its just a ballache [06:09] can't say I care much for airports :/ worst part of flying [06:09] heh airports arent bad providing you have the lounge access [06:10] airports without the lounge access make me wanna shoot myself in the head [06:11] I'd rather take a 4pound hammer to my own tools than fly [06:11] lol, never work for tenet then [06:12] I used to fly like hell in the 90's that cured me for life from flying [06:12] * nlsthzn likes flying, then again I don't get the oppertunity that often :) [06:12] all of us fly a fair bit, not nearly as much as the ceo and I in most cases, but there is a fair amount of it [06:12] heh nlsthzn like I said, flying is... glamarous at first, but when you're spending a few hundred hours a year in planes, they become like, long, boring, uncomfortable buses [06:13] OR tambo ground staff greeted me by name, and the question after good morning was, were to this morning? [06:13] I can believe you... like the difference beween a hobby and a job :) [06:14] uncomfortable buses is a very very accurate description [06:14] lol bmg, I've gotten to know most of the crews on the jhb -> cpt legs [06:14] a friend of mine called it a cattle truck [06:15] LOL the 6am flight to joburg is the true cattle run [06:15] inm the 90's there was basically 2 crews that worked that route, flew it at least once a week [06:16] or the late night limited services flights [06:16] strongest you can get is double disprin and water [06:16] heh, the flight to hong kong is one of my least favorite flights [06:16] the only flight really worse than it is a flight to the US [06:17] because both are insanely long flights [06:17] tonights flight = 14 hours + 2 hours to get to joburg [06:17] yea bad, I used to enjoy flying forward, but losing time always killed my bio-clock [06:18] so flying east was ok, but going west is a killer for me [06:18] my only fligth currently is UAE to SA and back... only two hours difference and only 8 hours flight so not to bad:) [06:18] and flying north with layovers in brussels or dubai [06:19] that flight is 9 hours too long :) [06:19] heh the flight through to washington is a killer [06:23] fuck I almost forgot to clear my credit cards for this trip, stupid banks will lock em if I dont [06:33] heh [06:34] <3 nedbank private bank [06:34] heh, private banker always answers her phone, always does what I need instantly, and never gives me any shit, and I never have to go near a branch [07:37] Maaz, coffee on [07:37] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:37] hey uncle Kilos [07:37] Maaz, with cremora [07:37] Ah! At last someone with taste [07:37] Maaz, and milk [07:37] Now you're talking [07:38] Maaz, and sugar [07:38] Do something yourself Kilos [07:38] howdy every one awake [07:39] brb, gotto relocate the PC... [07:41] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:43] Maaz, ty [07:43] You're Welcome I'm sure [08:10] HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Man.... the department of homeland security in the US [08:10] "accidently" siezed 84 THOUSAND domains [08:10] and redirected them to a page that said the domains were taken down pending investigations for child porn [08:10] they sites had nothing child pornish about them, most of them were small businessses and personal websites [10:05] 안녕~ [10:06] Hi Cantide [10:06] hi [10:07] whats up with the korean? [10:07] sorry¸trying to get this input method working [10:07] :) [10:07] just installed 10·10 [10:09] heh, it's tricky... SCIM was better... easier :| [10:11] aha, making progress [10:11] does anyone know how i can import my old Thunderbird emails successfully? [10:11] I tried to copy the files, but it failed :| [10:23] Cantide: don't know Thunderbird but I suspect you should have exported it first so you can now import them :/ [10:24] :< [10:24] Cantide: just copy the whole .mozilla or .thunderbird directory [10:24] i don't think there was an export option [10:24] superfly, i tried that, it didn't work [10:24] I did it the other day, worked perfectly [10:24] so yeah, if that doesn't work, I'm afraid I don't know [10:24] i read a few 'tutorials' online before i installed the new Ubuntu, they all said to just copy the files :| [10:24] ask Google [10:25] i asked, it tells me the same thing lol [10:25] heh [10:25] i think it might be because the version i had before was 2.x and the one i have now is 3.x [10:25] so there must be some difference regarding the storage of the files :| [10:26] anyway, gotta go shopping :| thanks for the help though [10:26] i'll just idle here until i get back [10:26] *AFK* [11:33] wb nlsthzn [11:33] :p [11:36] Cantide: thanks... just upgraded my lappies ram to 2gb and installled a new keyboard :) nice to have it running at full power now :) [11:37] cool :D [11:37] new keyboard? as in USB keyboard, or the laptop's built in keyboard? [11:37] built-in * [11:38] 'day all [11:39] hey kbmonkey [11:40] Cantide: built in keyboard... [11:40] was it difficult? [11:40] seems like a mission to me... but i guess i've never done it [11:41] got a manual from the net and once I figured out the bloody zif xocket it was a breeze :) [11:42] more ram is always good :) [11:43] Thing is, I never used the 1GB that was installed fully to be honest... so I don't know if I will really see such a big improvement [11:43] :P [11:43] still, rather too much than too little [11:43] overkill is underrated [11:44] i'm almost ready to give up on my mail and cut it as a loss lol [11:44] which hex editors are good for Ubuntu ? [11:44] * nlsthzn has no knowledge of the arcane arts [11:44] ram is good for when you run many VM's and such :) [11:45] I like octeta hex editor [11:45] *okteta [11:45] its kde based though [11:45] true... I refrained from virtualbox due to the one gig problem... now I can mini distro hop :D [11:46] hmm [11:46] maybe i'll settle for gHex then :| [11:53] i might just try to rip the headers from a Thunderbird 3.x mail file and superimpose it on my 2.x mail files [11:55] or try hexer, its a vi-like hex editor :) [11:58] nlsthzn: where is your irc bouncer located? never seen an ip starting with a single digit :) [11:58] drubin: english please :p [11:59] nlsthzn: what country is your quassel hosted in [12:00] drubin: I have no idea... afaik I am just connecting to irc.freenode.com... I am in the UAE... is there a command or something I can use to give you more info? [12:00] freenode.net [12:00] nlsthzn: Nah don't worry :) [12:01] TOR works pretty well as a proxy .-. [12:01] but sloooow for anything that's bandwidth intensive :| [12:01] I am not running any proxies currently... [12:08] my IP was banned from freenode last week, policy against running tor relays :p [12:11] hehe [18:01] evening all [18:01] Maaz, coffee on [18:01] * Maaz washes some mugs [18:02] Go BULLE! [18:02] erm... hi all :p [18:02] hiya nlsthzn [18:02] Maaz, coffee for all [18:02] Sure thing Kilos... Hey guy's!! Bring your mugs. I am tired of doing all the dishes on my own. [18:02] how are you uncle Kilos [18:02] well ty you and you [18:05] Maaz, rusks please [18:05] There is a packet of Ouma's on the top shelf [18:05] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [18:05] "guy's"?! [18:06] Guy's what? [18:06] hehe hiya confluency [18:06] guys is all peeps in the area [18:07] me ok... listening to the rugby.. video streaming over net sucks :( [18:07] I was making fun of the spelling. :P [18:07] * nlsthzn spies grammar nazi :p [18:09] live score over supersport.co.za sucks :( [18:09] stream radio... [18:11] aw is guys spelt wrong [18:12] nlsthzn, did you watch the sharks and cheetahs [18:12] well... listened to the radio and watched a slide show :p [18:13] ah [18:13] most of it anycase [18:14] Can Jantjies kick? [18:14] ? [18:14] he seems to have missed his kicks in this game... [18:15] can anyone tell me why sudo apt-get update and then upgrade doesnt upgrade everything [18:15] if you go to synaptic afterwards there is lots that still needs updating [18:16] it should update all... [18:17] I sometimes do aptitude after apt-get to make sure :D [18:17] Kilos: upgrade will upgrade packages that don't pull in new packages [18:18] i had windows closing on their own yesterday and spent the day in synaptic reinstalling all gnome and audacious and some more and now all is good here [18:18] Kilos: ie, linux-kernel may depend on 'linux-kernel-2.6.24', after an upgrade it needs 'linux-kernel-2.6.25'. An 'apt-get upgrade' won't pull that new package in, and won't upgrade teh first package because of that [18:18] Kilos: apt-get dist-upgrade will however pull that new package in for you [18:19] ah ty very much [18:22] there are also lots of lib files that arent complete [18:24] is there perhaps a command that will update everything? [18:24] apt-get dist-upgrade [18:25] i mean even of the apps installed as well [18:26] i copied /var/cache/apt/archives then did the update upgrade [18:26] it will upgrade any package that you have where there is a newer version, including teh packages that depends on a new package that isn't installed [18:26] thanks linuxboy that will save me hours next time [18:26] also, why are you copying /var/cache/apt/archives? [18:27] i saved it on an external and then did a clean install [18:27] oh [18:27] all about saving data [18:27] you shouldn't do that [18:27] oh [18:27] you should backup /etc/apt/sources.list [18:28] oh wait [18:28] sorry [18:28] thats fine [18:28] hehe whats fine? [18:28] backing up /var/cache/apt/archives if you want to save bandwidth [18:30] so its sudo backup /var/cache/apt/archives /media/backup [18:30] there is no command called backup [18:30] also, why are you bothering? to save bandwidth? [18:30] i have the external split in backup and storage [18:30] yip bandwidth kills me [18:30] get uncapped [18:31] cant [18:31] why? [18:31] i live by sister [18:31] and they dont wanna pay a big fone bill [18:31] oh, you're on 3G? [18:31] they have a kinda pay as you go account [18:31] yip [18:32] spend that money on an adsl line :P [18:33] just the fone account is a few hundred a month [18:33] then still adsl [18:33] how much do you pay on 3G/ [18:33] at times i use less than 500m data a month [18:34] for about R600 I'm sure you can get uncapped [18:34] i rely on family to give what and when they can [18:34] i'm using the Cell C data sim [18:34] ah [18:35] 600m airtime is R189 [18:35] works out cheap per gb ( not cheaper than ADSL, but I don't have a land line ) [18:35] hehe at times i only have pidgin open [18:36] and better times pidgin and xchat [18:36] i'm the same, but i'm using more this month -.-v [18:36] anyway we do what we can [18:37] yeah [18:37] i just use lots when i gotta do a clean install [18:37] same, i did a clean install on Friday [18:37] hehe [18:37] i had no choice [18:37] and i decided not to try and install my old debs, because there's no point in installing a new OS, but using old apps :| [18:38] got a bug that killed mbr on 2 drives [18:38] :o [18:38] that's nasty [18:38] took weeks to fix it [18:38] 80g drive would only take xp at times [18:39] refused all ubuntu releases [18:39] but now i got ubuntu only from a zeroed drive [18:39] so no winsucks anywhere [18:40] nice... i was too chicken to take the plunge [18:40] hehe [18:40] so i'm dual booting again, but win 7 and 10.10 this time [18:40] as opposed to XP and 9.10 that i had before :p [18:40] i havent use ms for a year but tried everything to fix the mbr [18:40] which version of Ubuntu do you have? [18:41] i am using karmic now . i had 10.10 but thats when i crashed and was scared to try it again as the drive only took 9.10 [18:42] :o [18:42] don't say things like that :D [18:42] maybe there a prob with my 10.10 cd [18:42] i've only been using 10.10 for a day lol [18:42] have ordered another [18:42] maverick is great [18:42] i loved it [18:42] how long did you use it before it crashed? [18:43] until 2 weeks ago [18:43] Lions have almost caught up to the bulls :o [18:43] from 2 weeks after it was released i think [18:43] or 3 [18:43] oh, quite long '< [18:43] yeah its great [18:44] i like everything on the left [18:44] took some getting used to [18:44] then had to learn again after going back to karmic [18:44] everything on the left? [18:44] the close down x [18:45] etc [18:45] aha [18:45] hehe [18:45] that was only in one theme, i've already changed it :p [18:45] i got used to it like that and enjoyed it [18:47] :) [18:47] i guess i never gave it a chance [18:48] yeah it takes a while but if you dual booting windows it will mess with your head [18:50] i barely ever use Windows... [18:51] maybe once a week to play a game or something [18:51] you will find you need to install aptitude and gdebi and gedit separately i think [18:51] they arent part of the install as they were before [18:52] gedit is here [18:52] i use it a lot for php, so i made sure of that :D [18:53] lol [18:53] also it wants to install everything from software centre [18:54] I want the Lions to win for a change, but it'll mess with my superbru predictions :-S [18:54] hehe [18:54] yeah, i used to software center a lot today and it worked well for me [18:54] time is gone [18:54] oh [18:54] 15 secs [18:54] the 'live' score is clearly not live [18:54] what's the score? [18:54] they lost [18:54] 20 - 24 ? [18:55] 20/24 [18:55] ah well, decent prediction then :D [18:55] game over [18:55] but that's impressive for the Lions [18:55] especially the 2nd half [18:55] yes they tried hard second half [18:55] there is hope for them yet :) [18:57] i prefer gdebi to software centre [18:58] but thats me [18:58] and synaptic of course [18:58] i usually use the terminal to install stuff... not sure wht [18:58] why * [18:58] ah [18:58] but lately i've been using software centre [18:59] i been doing that lots lately too [18:59] grr, software center * :@ [18:59] n9o its too slow and you dont see whats happening [19:00] what, software center? [19:00] yeah [19:00] true, but it is simplier [19:00] hehe [19:00] sometimes the terminal drives me crazy - if i'm lacking dependencies [19:00] and then i don't know the package names etc. [19:01] thats why i like synaptic and gdebi [19:01] i'd still prefer to download a deb of each application, and store it somewhere, but they're always being updated :| [19:01] in synaptic it sorts all dependancies for you [19:02] they are all in /var/cache/apt/archives [19:03] aha [19:03] hence your backing up of that folder [19:03] yip [19:03] inetpro taught me that [19:03] save like 300m data on a clean install of an old release [19:06] '< [19:06] sleep time :| [19:06] good night -.- [19:29] night all. sleep tight [19:29] see ya morrow time