[00:00] <a_p3rson> nagel182: is this LAMP an ubuntu program?
[00:00] <bastidrazor> !lamp > a_p3rson
[00:00] <erUSUL> !lamp
[00:00] <nagel182> LAMP server...
[00:00] <erUSUL> oops sorry
[00:00] <a_p3rson> jonthue_: yes the folder in the .run file
[00:00] <erikaflusa> I have question yesterday i installed ubuntu 10.10
[00:00] <bastidrazor> erUSUL: it happens :0
[00:01] <jonthue_> ok making the renaming done and will see if it works
[00:01] <erikaflusa> 2 times the pc has frozen up
[00:01] <nagel182> and i have two folders with .htacces.... in one folder(fashionweb) it works on the other it doesnt(shimmie)
[00:01] <jonthue_> mines is 2.6
[00:01] <a_p3rson> nagel182: sorry have heard the full name but didnt connect the acronym, sorry, but still dont know the program
[00:01] <erikaflusa> i downloaded all the updated
[00:01] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: !ask
[00:02] <jonthue_> should i change it to 3.1
[00:02] <a_p3rson> !ask | erikaflusa
[00:02] <erikaflusa> how can i find out what is causing the freeze up
[00:02] <erikaflusa> is there a dignostic i can run
[00:02] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: we need more information. what kind of architecture, how/where is it freezing, what kind of ubuntu, etc
[00:03] <apogee_> any idea why it cant find the folder '
[00:03] <erikaflusa> intel dual core
[00:03] <sirninja> erikaflusa: you can run the command "top" in the terminal to see what processes are using the most cpu
[00:03] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: no no no x64 or x64
[00:03] <jonthue_> mine is 2.6 already
[00:03] <erikaflusa> x86
[00:04] <a_p3rson> ok
[00:04] <erikaflusa> should i be running x64
[00:04] <a_p3rson> what flavor of ubuntu (desktop, netbook)
[00:04] <erikaflusa> desktop
[00:04] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: shouldnt matter i have a 64bit computer running 32bit ubuntu
[00:04] <a_p3rson> ok where does it crash?
[00:05] <erUSUL> erikaflusa: check system logs /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[00:05] <erikaflusa> the screen freezes
[00:05] <erikaflusa> mouse not respond
[00:06] <a_p3rson> erUSUL: not sure where shes crashing
[00:06] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: where are you crashing?
[00:06] <hookworm24> Hello. I have no sound in xubuntu. had been working great for months and now nothing. everytime i restart, the mixer mutes all channels. I can un-mute them but still no sound. What should i check first?
[00:06] <a_p3rson> !xubuntu > hookworm24
[00:07] <erikaflusa> hi i found
[00:07] <erikaflusa> hey i found the files
[00:07] <yazan> hi
[00:07] <erikaflusa> var log messages
[00:08] <Diverdude> is there a tool for linux (other than pdfedit) which can be used to annotate pdf files?
[00:08] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: please answer the question...where are you crashing?
[00:08] <erikaflusa> im not sure what i looking for
[00:08] <erikaflusa> firefox
[00:09] <erikaflusa> cud someone look my var log messages
[00:09] <a_p3rson> erikaflusa: is this a newer or older computer?
[00:09] <MC8> Hey there, is there a key-mapping utility for Ubuntu? I seem to have somehow installed weird Scandanavian characters on my alt-gr keys, I'd like to change it to something more sensible
[00:09] <erikaflusa> dual care 2.6
[00:09] <erikaflusa> 512 mb ram
[00:09] <hippytaf1> erikaflusa: what do you think is wrong with them?
[00:09] <erikaflusa> it will tell u what is causing the crash
[00:10] <a_p3rson> !info keytouch > MC8
[00:10] <a_p3rson> !info keytouch | MC8
[00:11] <erUSUL> MC8: check advanced settings in System>Preferences>Keyboard
[00:11] <a_p3rson> or that
[00:11] <poss_> well restarting seemed to work
[00:12] <poss_> and I found another work around too, apparently I have to make sure and press eject on each disc, otherwise ubuntu doesn't recognise there is a new disc in the drive
[00:12]  * MC8 does not see an advanced settings section
[00:12] <poss_> thankyou again for your help fine people
[00:13] <Starminn> poss_ Glad it worked out.
[00:13] <a_p3rson> MC8: regional settings i think
[00:13] <BiMMeR> hi all
[00:13] <Starminn> BiMMeR: Hello.
[00:14] <BiMMeR> anybody knowledge about configuring a headset to use with teamspeak?
[00:14] <rick_> oie
[00:14] <rick_> ALGUEM?
[00:14] <MC8> hm, clicking 'reset default settings' still maps things like łðđæjŋ¢ to alt-gr+letter
[00:14] <the_dark_warrio> my function keys have two behavior which are triggered with the Fn key. Is it possible to set the default behavior (when Fn is not pressed)?
[00:14] <rick_> oie
[00:15] <a_p3rson> !portuguese | rick_
[00:15] <th0r> the_dark_warrio: research the .xmodmap file and the program xev
[00:16] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, I'm having trouble upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. During the part where it sets the software channels, it errors with "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[00:16] <rick_> oi
[00:17] <BiMMeR> nobody knowledge about configuring a headset to use with teamspeak?
[00:17] <riccardo> hi all
[00:18] <Starminn> BiMMeR: You could try this maybe? *shrug* I have no experience with TeamSpeake even on non-Ubuntu systems. http://robert.penz.name/296/howto-install-teamspeak-3-server-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/
[00:19] <BiMMeR> hi starmin, thanks but that is about server setup i guess
[00:20] <Starminn> BiMMeR: So you're just trying to get the mic to work? (i.e. http://forum.teamspeak.com/archive/index.php/t-59220.html)
[00:21] <BiMMeR> have been searching for several days, so i dont think the answer lies there :(
[00:22] <Starminn> Is it the headset in general or just the mic? Have you tested to make sure the headset even works in Ubuntu at all? (If it's a lack of support in Ubuntu no amount of cnfiguration in TeamSpeak will help ;) )
[00:24] <rahduke1> how can i use a usb wifi card to create a wireless network so i can setup my NFS shares? My router broke
[00:25] <rahduke1> any help would be much appreciated
[00:25] <Abinadi> wow, if you can do that I could have saved myself $90 a couple of weeks ago
[00:25] <rahduke1> Abinadi: you can do that, ive done it before, just forgot how....its just like using your phone to tether your connection
[00:25] <BiMMeR> starminn i have it working in ubuntu, even on card0 (alsa) but i cant get it in teamspeak and when i try it stops everywhere
[00:26] <Abinadi> rahduke1, wow...I learn something every half hour in this place.
[00:27] <Abinadi> BiMMeR, I'm not very experienced yet but have you tried using pulseaudio?
[00:27] <BiMMeR> have been messing around with that too, same result, playback works like a charm, capture... not
[00:28] <rahduke1> how can i use a usb wifi card to create a wireless network so i can setup my NFS shares? My router broke.....
[00:28] <a_p3rson> can someone tell me how to compile this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/hplip/3.11.1/hplip-3.11.1.tar.gz/download
[00:28] <Starminn> BiMMeR: Have you selected all the proper input options in case it isjn't automatic? http://www.ehow.com/how_7727517_teamspeak-microphone-not-work.html
[00:29] <Starminn> !compile | a_p3rson
[00:29] <habstinat> Hi. This happens every time I try to install something via apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568962/ I'm on 10.04, and this is a big issue. I can still compile things from source.
[00:29] <skutr> hey i was trying to skype with my friend and my internal mic isnt working can anyone help?
[00:30] <Abinadi> !mics
[00:30] <BiMMeR> starminn that is windhoos
[00:30] <skutr> !mic
[00:30] <Starminn> Abinadi: I tried it.
[00:30] <Abinadi> lol
[00:30] <skutr> !mics
[00:30] <Starminn> You guys aren't abusing the bot ro anything, but read this and keep it in mind for future reference:
[00:30] <Starminn> !botabuse
[00:30] <foxjazz> where is a good place to get help in programming?
[00:30] <skutr> !internal mic
[00:31] <Starminn> foxjazz: /join #programming and see?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> skutr: does it work in other apps?
[00:31] <Starminn> foxjazz: I'd suggest picking a language first then going from there. :)
[00:31] <Abinadi> #ubuntu-programmin?  I have no idea
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> foxjazz: the channel specific to the language you want
[00:32] <foxjazz> Starminn, well ubuntu
[00:32] <luite> foxjazz: first decide the best language to use, and then ask in #haskell for more help ;)
[00:32] <skutr> ActionParsnip: no i tried it in the system testing too it didnt work there
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> foxjazz: ubuntu doesn't have a language, per se
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> skutr: did you try sound recorder?
[00:32] <foxjazz> ok laugh all you want
[00:32] <thunkee> btw haskell good choice
[00:32] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, I'm having trouble upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. During the part where it sets the software channels, it errors with "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[00:32] <Starminn> As Parsnip said, choose one first. There is no "official language of Ubuntu"
[00:32] <skutr> ActionParsnip: NO
[00:33] <skutr> ActionParsnip: no sorry caps lock
[00:33] <Odaym> i am trying to install Windows ontop of my Ubuntu, to remove ubuntu and install windows, but when i put the CD in, it won't show ANY partitions or drives..any idea? (I know this concerns windows but you guys are helpful)
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> skutr: do, its an open source app so will be much better testing than the proprietary rubbish of skype
[00:33] <HipKat> Evening....
[00:33] <Odaym> hi kat
[00:33] <GuyllFyre> 'evenin
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> skutr: also run: alsamixer     and ensure the mic isn't muted
[00:33] <Viking667> Right. Now I'm back for another bash at Ubuntu...
[00:33] <skutr> ActionParsnip: yeah well i kinda need it to work in skype
[00:33] <HipKat> Anyne wanna help me with what is probably a common MBR problem?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: nice pun :)
[00:34] <IsmAvatar> Odaym: make sure your BIOS listss the hard drive
[00:34] <Viking667> I've got a HD3450 with both heads being used...
[00:34] <foxjazz> in ubuntu what is the best way to manage files on a small screen?
[00:34] <Odaym> where in BIOS does it let you do that, IsmAvatar?
[00:34] <rlankfo> CLI
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> skutr: well you kinda need to work out if its the mic thats bad or if its skype, don't you
[00:34] <Odaym> i know only boot order
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> skutr: its called 'isolating the issue'
[00:34] <thunkee> foxjazz: mc
[00:34] <Viking667> trouble is, the screens are only getting picked up as 60Hz, and there's nothing in the xorg.conf to tell Xorg anything different... like the fact I have two rather useful 15" monitors that do way better.
[00:35] <foxjazz> thunkee, mc?
[00:35] <GuyllFyre> I've got Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated video, is there a 3D driver I can install in 10.04 LTS to make OpenGL work?
[00:35] <Viking667> !mc
[00:35] <IsmAvatar> Odaym: depends on the bios. Hunt around. Usually it will be prefixed with some initials of the HD manufacturer. For instance, if you use western digital, it may be labeled WD#####
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: you can set refresh rates in xorg.conf and it will play nice
[00:35] <HipKat> Anyone wanan give me a little help with a grub/mbr problem?
[00:35] <foxjazz> Viking667, not mc
[00:35] <skutr> ActionParsnip: no it doesnt work in sound recorder so its definately ubuntu
[00:35] <Viking667> ActionParsnip: under what section? I've only GOT two...
[00:35] <mackdieselx27> @Odaym:  If your drive is there what you could also do is try loading a GParted live CD and see if your partitions show up.
[00:35] <habstinat> Every time I try to install something via apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568962/ I can't install anything I need. I'm on 10.04, and this is a big issue. I can still compile things from source though.
[00:35] <Starminn> HipKat: Ask more specifically what your question is so people know what they're answering to, please. :)
[00:36] <foxjazz> anyone have a good way to movefiles around in ubuntu?
[00:36] <th0r> foxjazz: mc
[00:36] <Viking667> Section "Screen" and Section "Device" (containing the screen pointer)
[00:36] <IsmAvatar> foxjazz: select them, then drag them
[00:36] <HipKat> kk... Well, the other night idid a HUGE package update.... when I rebooted MBR default was memory test... it's happened before....
[00:36] <drc> Viking667: Ever figure out the Firefox problem?
[00:36] <foxjazz> mc is not english
[00:36] <HipKat>  I used EasyBCD, set win7 as default and now, no GRUB on reboot.....
[00:37] <th0r> foxjazz: funny....I use it all the time in english
[00:37] <HipKat> Booted with LIVECD, but i don't know how to restore the mbr
[00:37] <foxjazz> IsmAvatar, yea select and drag doesn't work too well on a small screen
[00:37] <Viking667> drc: yes... toolkit.networkmanager.disable
[00:37] <skutr> ActionParsnip: what should i do?
[00:37] <Viking667> needed to be set to "true" in my case.
[00:37] <HipKat> btw, back in Windows now....
[00:37] <IsmAvatar> foxjazz: mv
[00:37] <Viking667> HipKat: poor sod.
[00:37] <drc> Viking667: ah...
[00:37] <foxjazz> IsmAvatar, oh you mean command line
[00:37] <a_p3rson> habstinat: try synaptic?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> skutr: under sound and video, there is sound recorder. Use it and try to record
[00:38] <foxjazz> IsmAvatar, well that means I hae to type the full directory path and all, that's a time waister
[00:38] <HipKat> lol. .I know it's common and I tried a few things I read online, but I get errors, partition not found, etc, but I know it;s still there, obviously
[00:38] <skutr> ActionParsnip: i already did
[00:38] <Viking667> foxjazz: awwww.....
[00:38] <skutr> ActionParsnip: as i said it did not work and the problem is definately ubuntu
[00:38] <IsmAvatar> foxjazz: cd will change to the directory, so you don't have to use the full directory path. Also, if you're moving to vastly different locations, you could try setting up temporary symlinks to save you some typing.
[00:38] <HipKat> Can I just run a reinstall Ubuntu from Live CD without totally losing all my stuff on there?
[00:39] <donoban> hi, I can't set virtual in xorg.conf. I try to use an extra monitor but when I run xrandr it complains virtual size is too small
[00:39] <HipKat> Is there a repair function I'm not seeing on the LiveCD
[00:39] <bazhang> HipKat,have a seperate home partition?
[00:39] <bazhang> HipKat,the recovery mode?
[00:40] <HipKat> I'm not good with partitions, but i have 4. NTFS. Linux, Linux Swap and somethign else that I thin kis just my slave drive
[00:40] <HipKat> btw, I'm a Linux semi-noob
[00:40] <bazhang> !home | HipKat
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> skutr: ok then can you give the URL generated by: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:40] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, I'm having trouble upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. During the part where it's "Setting new software channels", it errors with "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." and I think it doesn't like one of my packages, but I don't know how to find out which.
[00:40] <Abinadi> ok, that's very wierd...I can play music just fine (and hear it just fine), but just now when I tried to record my voice with sound recorder, I cant hear the playback
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> skutr: select to upload to the site, a red URL will be generated, thanks
[00:41] <Guest40084> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592062  .. Could someone explain me post #8?
[00:41] <skutr> ActionParsnip: huh?
[00:41] <Abinadi> (and I know my mic is working because it works with skype)
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: can you use: http://pastie.org to give the output of: sudo apt-get update
[00:41] <HipKat> Oh, that was my other question,, if I upgrade to 10.10, I assume it will repair the MBR, and I'll stiull have all my settings, etc, right?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> skutr: its a command for terminal, copy it and paste it to terminal and press ENTER, follow the prompts and give the link
[00:41] <donoban> some idea? Is possible that last ubuntu version ignores /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Maybe another place to put virtual screen size?
[00:42] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1580869
[00:42] <donoban> I'm using fglrx if that helps....
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ok, does: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano     pass ok?
[00:42] <skutr> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:43] <soreau> donoban: You put virtual size in xorg.conf but check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for messages that it had an error
[00:43] <skutr> ActionParsnip: not sure what  youre talking abou
[00:43] <skutr> abotu
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> donoban: it doesn't ship with one but if you make one it will be obeyed
[00:43] <donoban> some way for doing one automatic ActionParsnip ?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> skutr: the command i gave you, run it in a terminal, it's that simple. Copy and paste
[00:43] <poss_> oo oo ooo I has another question!  a very easy one this time :)
[00:43] <skutr> ActionParsnip: you didnt give me a command?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> donoban: you can make a skeletal one in root recovery by running: Xorg -configure
[00:43] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: yes, seems to. http://pastie.org/1580879
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> skutr: 00:40 < ActionParsnip> skutr: ok then can you give the URL generated by: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:44] <donoban> thx ActionParsnip gonna try..
[00:44] <delac> does anyone know if it is possible to insert image to open office document as url in ubuntu?
[00:44] <habstinat> Hi. This happens every time I try to install something via apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568962/ I'm on 10.04, and this leaves me unable to install any of Ubuntu's packages. Can someone help out please?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> skutr: I did
[00:44] <skutr> ActionParsnip: oh lol my bad
[00:44] <poss_> ok so im logged in with a live disc and copying all the old data to an external hard drive, where are all the firefox preferences and bookmarks storede? is it possible to just copy them back into a fresh install?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> skutr: yep
[00:44] <PetePorty> So guys, I came here earlier and one of you (who is now gone) helped me a lot. After doing all he told me to, I discovered the problem was with my hard drive. So I rund dmsg, here is the result: http://pastebin.com/aB7YeXVu And then I did smartctl http://pastebin.com/ZnGUDTKP . Someone told me that I should seek help here, and that it is probably an error with cabling or drive electronics, but I'd like to know what I should do now. (I'd like a
[00:44] <PetePorty>  lot to avoid buying a new harddrive, to be honest. If it's possible, of course.)
[00:44] <skutr> ActionParsnip: missing url
[00:44] <mackdieselx27> @poss:  ~/.mozilla
[00:45] <donoban> ActionParsnip: I get an error, seems that it tries to start another xorg server
[00:45] <poss_> thankyou mackdieselx27! and can i just copy it back over a fresh install?
[00:45] <mackdieselx27> yup
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> skutr: copy the command I gave and paste it to the terminal, copy it ALL
[00:45] <skutr> i did
[00:45] <poss_> ty :)
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> donoban: thats why you need to reboot to a root recovery console
[00:45] <mackdieselx27> poss:  Be sure to drill through the mozilla directory to look over what you want first.
[00:46] <donoban> ActionParsnip: maybe run init 1?
[00:46] <Viking667> hm. This is weird. what is /proc/kcore supposed to contain?
[00:46] <poss_> oh permission denied
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> skutr: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:46] <Dead_Storage> ok so i deleted the top panel(in ubuntu) and that had the little wireless icon that let me manage my connections in it, my question is how do i get that back on the new pannel I mad, I dont see it anywhere
[00:46] <Viking667> because it's only 1016Mb, and I have 2Gb of memory.
[00:46] <habstinat> Hi. This happens every time I try to install something via apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568962/ I'm on 10.04, and this leaves me unable to install any of Ubuntu's packages. Can someone help me out please?
[00:47] <th0r> Dead_Storage: try adding a system tray to the panel
[00:47] <skutr> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> donoban: if it kills the x server then fine, you can get a root recovery console by rebooting, holding shift then selecting recovery mode, then root
[00:47] <poss_> actually im getting that a lot, i guess that means i can't just copy the entire drive onto an external drive huh? if i'm not allowed to view it im probably not allowed to copy it
[00:47] <skutr> ActionParsnip: so what did that do?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> skutr: you get the idea
[00:47] <donoban> ok ActionParsnip thx gonna try
[00:47] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: the nano reinstall ran without incident. nano works.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> skutr: its a script from the alsa team which gives a LOT of info about the system and the sound setup / libs / settings
[00:47] <HipKat> Ok, let's try something else, using LiveCD, can I boot into MY linux and not the guest user that LiveCD has?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: hmm, weird
[00:47] <Dead_Storage> thats not in the menu for add to panel
[00:47] <mackdieselx27> poss:  Your mozilla directory should be owned by you and is read and writable.  Where you are trying to copy that directory from?  Are you in your account or from a live CD?
[00:48] <Viking667> habstinat: wow. That looks ugly.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> skutr: you don't need to view the data, and select to upload to the site
[00:48] <PetePorty> Dead_Storage: On another panel, right-click, selecct add-to panel and chose Notification Area
[00:48] <th0r> Dead_Storage: I forget exactly what it is called, Notification Area or some such
[00:48] <skutr> ActionParsnip: yeah thats not going to do anythin
[00:48] <habstinat> Viking667: Got any ideas?
[00:48] <skutr> anything
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> habstinat: what is the output of: lsb_release -d    Thanks
[00:49] <Viking667> habstinat: it's like you've got missing perl modules.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> skutr: why not?
[00:49] <poss_> live cd, the hard drive failed and gives me a kernel panic on boot, so im on a live cd trying to copy everything onto an external drive
[00:49] <skutr> ActionParsnip: uhh this just uploads data to a website
[00:49] <Dead_Storage> th0r, oh thanks, haha they should call it something like manage connections, that would be a lot more clear
[00:49] <Godslastering> When i log in (even after restarting) about, like, 500 "starting file ***" dialogs pop up... i can't read the rest of what it says, unfortunately, and i don't know why they are coming up. Also, after about 5 minutes, they eventually close
[00:49] <HipKat> I know you guys are gettign hammered with questions, but is it possible to boot my user account wioth liveCD?
[00:49] <Viking667> habstinat: unfortunately, I can't help with this.
[00:50] <PetePorty> Dead_Storage: So it did work?
[00:50] <PetePorty> Good.
[00:50] <th0r> Dead_Storage: there are other things that will show up there besides network-mangler.....pidgin for one
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> skutr: yes, then makes you a link
[00:50] <Dead_Storage> PetePorty, yeah it did
[00:50] <HipKat> Or if I just run the install ubuntu option, will it wipe everything I have now and just reinstall fro mscratch?
[00:50] <mackdieselx27> poss:  You may need to either change the permissions on ~/.mozilla or perform the copy with higher privileges since it's real picky on HDD permissions.
[00:50] <skutr> ActionParsnip: yeah to that data
[00:50] <Dead_Storage> th0r, thats fine, i just eas going for a minimalist theme but i still needed that
[00:50] <habstinat> Viking667: Thanks anyways, and ActionParsnip: I get, "Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS"
[00:51] <mackdieselx27> poss:  Recursively I might add.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> skutr: ok then it makes a red hyperlink when it finishes. Give the link here
[00:51] <PetePorty> So.... Anyone thinks they can help me out with my problem?
[00:51] <skutr> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=40b490a038e8940b8dc134e5e13c68e5953a7e73
[00:51] <PetePorty> So guys, I came here earlier and one of you (who is now gone) helped me a lot. After doing all he told me to, I discovered the problem was with my hard drive. So I rund dmsg, here is the result: http://pastebin.com/aB7YeXVu And then I did smartctl http://pastebin.com/ZnGUDTKP . Someone told me that I should seek help here, and that it is probably an error with cabling or drive electronics, but I'd like to know what I should do now. (I'd like a
[00:52] <PetePorty>  lot to avoid buying a new harddrive, to be honest. If it's possible, of course.)
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> skutr:
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> skutr: 00:48 < skutr> ActionParsnip: yeah thats not going to do anythin
[00:52] <poss_> yeah im not in a position to change the permissions, since the permissions can only be set by the owner and the live cd is not the owner
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> skutr: so it dod someting, didn't it...?
[00:52] <defkon>  
[00:52] <skutr> ActionParsnip: sorry im having a bad day
[00:52] <Godslastering> Also, i have two monitors connected, each with a seperate x server, how do i "move" or "start" an application on the other monitor?
[00:54] <mackdieselx27> poss:  You should be able to override it since you're on the live CD.  Try chowning it (with -R) from the CLI and see if that works out for you.
[00:55] <Viking667> And my last question for the day, or I hope it is...
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> skutr: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf     and add the line:  options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1     to the bottom, reboot to test. If you get no sound then re-edit and remove the line
[00:56] <PetePorty> Should I assume that I am being ignored; that no one knows how what to do, or that someone is actually reading through my pastebins?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> skutr: use sound recorder to test
[00:56] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: ok, so what now? I'm happy uninstalling some packages if you think they are in the way.
[00:56] <Viking667> When I boot up the kernel from 10.10 (maverick), one of the screens plugged into my HD3450 flashes every few seconds or so. It doesn't do the same thing with the earlier kernel from 10.04
[00:56] <Viking667> What can be done?
[00:56] <habstinat> ActionParsnip: Not sure if you got my last message, but I get, "Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS". Thanks.
[00:56] <popkorn> Hi. Trying to get the grub2 menu back. Can someone help interpret the result text from meierfra's boot info script ?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> skutr: there are a few options you can add to the snd-hda-intel module here, try a few: http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/multimedia/401150-no-sound-rs780-azalia-controller-sbx00-azalia-intel-hda.html
[00:57] <mackdieselx27> poss:  Try this thread as this is another way to copy your stuff.  http://forums.techguy.org/linux-unix/920078-solved-need-permission-copy-files.html
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> habstinat: I saw, I have no other ideas
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: I have no idea, are there any bugs logged for it
[00:57] <skutr> ActionParsnip: is there something i can add to this to get my headphones to work?
[00:58] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: dozens, but none of them seem relevant. It seems like a rather wordy and generic error.
[00:58] <skutr> ActionParsnip: ill stick my headphones in and the sound still plays through the speakers
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: could try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install debconf
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: then its a known issue, I'd keep an eye on the bugs
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> skutr: the options will help that too, you have a weird card which needs options. The link I gave has a few you can try
[00:59] <hylian> for some reason when i log out, it won't let me choose what window manager i want, and when i click on my name, it instantly goes to gnome...
[00:59] <crazybrain> my usb port doesnt work in Maverick
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> skutr: also see if: hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #1. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.    means something
[00:59] <crazybrain> i am not able to use my pen drive in it
[00:59] <Viking667> I got totally sick of gdm in Ubuntu, as it has jammed up
[01:00] <habstinat> ActionParsnip: Too bad. Maybe someone else can help me out here?
[01:00] <Viking667> it never seems to work, so I gave up and used kdm instead
[01:00] <skutr> ActionParsnip: k
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: do other USB devices work?
[01:00] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: debconf reinstalled without incident.
[01:00] <foxjazz> trying to build an app and it says to download fltk 1.1. where should it go in ubuntu
[01:00] <KB1JWQ> foxjazz: Which app?
[01:00] <Viking667> foxjazz: look for libfltk
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ok cool, try installing irssi like you originally tried
[01:00] <crazybrain> ActionParnship: nope
[01:00] <crazybrain> even whole port is not working
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: is the system a branded PC or laptop?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: are the USB ports enabled in BIOS?
[01:01] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: irssi? Originally I was just trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: sorry, crossed wires
[01:01] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip : all are working in Xp though
[01:01] <hylian> how i can i choose what window manager to use at log in?
[01:01] <Viking667> foxjazz: sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> habstinat: try reinstalling debconf, which the .pm file which is moaning comes from
[01:02] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: I was wondering when you were going to do that :-p you're sure helping a lot of people concurrently
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: ahhh, try disabling the power management of the ports in XP as well as the ability for the port to wake up the system
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: its more fun that way
[01:02] <jrib> hylian: there's is a drop down menu at the login screen
[01:03] <Viking667> no ideas about my flickering screen?
[01:03] <jrib> !helpme | Viking667
[01:03] <Viking667> well, it does seem that absolutely nobody knows...
[01:03] <jrib> Viking667: I (and probably lots of others that just joined) have no clue what your issue is.
[01:05] <crazybrain> How to install metasploit in Ubuntu 10.10?
[01:05] <delac> still wondering if it is possible to include  image as url (loads the image when viewed) in open office document in ubuntu 10.4. It certainly is possible with some versions as I have seen them.
[01:06] <ElectricPrism> anyone have any insight as to what types of liceneses they prefer for releasing software under?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: if nobody knows, they won't reply
[01:06] <mackdieselx27> crazybrain:  This should help you out and was the first Google hit.  https://www.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Ubuntu
[01:06] <Godslastering> I seem to be stuck in an endless loop of "starting file manager".  When i first log in, about 100 popups about it come up, and about 5 minutes later they all close slowly. then, though, they pop up intermittently and it's using up a lot of my cpu
[01:06] <Abinadi> !ot
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: think about it, there are 1000+ users here, do you expect them to all say "no", or similar?
[01:06] <ElectricPrism> wow. really? this is an open source channel.
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> ElectricPrism: indeed it is :)
[01:07] <hypermass> So much activity here.  :)
[01:07] <jrib> ElectricPrism: this channel focuses on ubuntu support.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <ElectricPrism> jrib: can you reccomend another channel where some devs hang out?
[01:08] <jrib> Godslastering: what ubuntu version is this?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> ElectricPrism: #programming
[01:08] <ElectricPrism> score, thanks ActionParsnip
[01:09] <Stevezau> i have a usb dvb card that has a inbuilt IR receiver.. which creates a inputX in /dev.. ive got lirc but im gettig double key presses cause its also detected as a kbd.. any ideas how i can tell ubuntu to ignore kdb events from that input device??
[01:09] <Godslastering> jrib: 10.10, just started happening today, i haven't changed anything
[01:09] <jrib> Godslastering: create a fresh new user, see if it still happens
[01:09] <Godslastering> jrib: alright. i'll try and report back
[01:10] <jack_> Godslastering: what did you do? i dont think thats a feature :P heh
[01:10] <coz_> Stevezau,  oo that's a tough one for me... I have no idea,,,and if no one here can answer I would also ask in ##Linux
[01:11] <Stevezau> tried there
[01:11] <coz_> Stevezau,  ooo  ok
[01:11] <coz_> Stevezau,  no luck at all there?
[01:12] <Godslastering> jrib: oddly, logging in as root, then logging back in as me seems to have fixed it, heh
[01:12] <coz_> Stevezau, could be time of day you were in there... try other "reasonable"  times of the day... others log in and log out fairly frequently on most irc channel from different time zones across the globe
[01:12] <th0r> Stevezau: you might look into blacklisting the module
[01:12] <jrib> Godslastering: I see...
[01:12] <popkorn> can anyone help interpret the result text from meierfra's boot info script  ?      http://pastebin.com/fJCQ8Zph  the unknown MBR at the bottom
[01:13] <Stevezau> th0r i cant blacklist it as i still want to use the input for lirc
[01:13] <Stevezau> just not kdb events
[01:13] <Abinadi> ok, has anyone got suggestions on how I can tweak firefox in mavarick...it is excrucatingly slow. (whereas in my windows system (dual-boot) it is lightening fast)  I have a 20mb connection.
[01:14] <bazhang> Abinadi,try chromium see if that is slow as well. might not be firefox
[01:14] <peernet> Good morning :)
[01:14] <JustCJs> elinks?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/speed-up-firefox-web-browser.html
[01:14] <Abinadi> bazhang, done that.  it's as slow as ff
[01:14] <Abinadi> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:14] <bazhang> Abinadi,then not a browser issue
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: try disabling ipv6 too
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: is downloading your updates ok?
[01:15] <Abinadi> ActionParsnip, I did disable that and it speeded it up slightly.  yes, my downloads are fine.
[01:15] <hipkat> BAck... got he grup to restore form LiveCD, now can someone tell me how to make it so memory test is not the default boot in mbr?
[01:15] <hipkat> *grub
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: do you use a proxy?
[01:16] <poss> wow that link was really confusing
[01:16] <enzo> stupid ms mouse. unplugging and plugging in the adapter corrects the scroll wheel speed
[01:17] <mackdieselx27> poss:  Just do sudo chown -R as shown toward the end of the thread.  Then you should be able to copy over your Firefox profile.
[01:18] <JustCJs> hipkat: change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[01:18] <poss> except that I don't have the media directories like in the example
[01:19] <JustCJs> to either numeric menu position or entry phrase, after which run update-grub
[01:19] <mackdieselx27> poss:  sudo chown -R root:root /home/yourusername/.mozilla  Then chmod -R 777 /home/yourusername/.mozilla
[01:19] <Slix`> I'm a newbie to Linux and Ubuntu. I got this .rar that I want to extract. It contains an .exe (and I'll want to run it with wine). Where should I extract it to? In Windows, programs go in C:\Program Files\. What's the Ubuntu equivalent?
[01:19] <Abinadi> ActionParsnip, I'm doing these tweaks....but no, I don't use a proxy
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> mackdieselx27: why root?
[01:19] <artur_> lol
[01:19] <poss> mm, but mack I want to copy all of the data on all of the drives onto a single external drive
[01:19] <artur_> from poloand
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> mackdieselx27: 777 is a REALLY bad idea too
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !pl | artur_
[01:20] <mackdieselx27> Action:  poss is trying to copy over on a live CD from an unaccessible HDD
[01:20] <JustCJs> Slix. ~/.wine/dosdevices/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[01:20] <poss> I was just wondering where the mozilla stuff was so i could restore their bookmarks and such once its all copied back
[01:20] <crazybrain> I am not able to install Metasploit on Ubuntu 10.10
[01:20] <JustCJs> *~./wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> mackdieselx27: if you run: gksudo nautilus   you can access what you need
[01:20] <Slix`> Oh, so I'll have to involve wine like that? Alright.
[01:21] <crazybrain> I downloaded metasploit framework-3.5.2.tar.bz2 file
[01:21] <crazybrain> how do i execute it to terminal
[01:21] <IsmAvatar> Slix`: It's a directory. Wine doesn't need to know
[01:21] <mackdieselx27> Action:  Ah didn't think of that
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: http://www.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Ubuntu    looks easy enough
[01:21] <poss> ooooo beautiful action!
[01:21] <mackdieselx27> Yup, lot less complicated than the CLI ;)
[01:21] <JustCJs> you can set any wine mountpoint for /
[01:22] <artur_> freedom windows !!!
[01:22] <poss> you guys are the best :)
[01:22] <mackdieselx27> No problem.  Good luck.
[01:23] <poss> one day I'd like to have Actions babies, and we can have little parnsips runnign around everywhere solving the world's problems ;)
[01:23] <hipkat> JustCJs, , sorry was afk, I'm a linux semi-noob, so how do I do that?
[01:24] <JustCJs> hipkat: just open /etc/default/grub in any editor as root and change the value of GRUB_DEFAULT to the numeric position of the desired default entry
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> poss: hehe
[01:25] <hylian> i used to be able to choose my window manager preference at log in, now i can't..
[01:25] <jrib> hylian: why not?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> hylian: log off, click your username, then it wil be selectable at the bottom
[01:25] <JustCJs> hipkat: afterward you should run update-grub to apply the changes
[01:25] <hylian> jrib, i don't know, please help.
[01:25] <jrib> hylian: what changed?  Are you still using gdm?
[01:26] <hipkat> kkk JustCJs , thx!
[01:26] <hylian> ActionParsnip, no, it won't. that's what i have been doing. it never let's me choose, it goes straight to gnome.
[01:26] <JustCJs> np
[01:26] <jrib> hylian: so you don't even type a password?
[01:26] <hylian> jrib, that i know of, yes.
[01:27] <jrib> hylian: so what happens when you log out like ActionParsnip suggests?
[01:27] <hylian> jrib, currect, i had it set up that way for quick logins.
[01:27] <crazybrain> anyone help me guys
[01:28] <hylian> jrib, it gives me the log in screen, but when i click on my name, instead of asking me for a password like before, now it instantly goes staright to gnome.
[01:29] <soreau> crazybrain: What are you trying to do?
[01:29] <jrib> hylian: disable the auto login or edit ~/.dmrc yourself (I recommend the first one)
[01:29] <hylian> jrib, ill try that... brb
[01:29] <crazybrain> soreau: i am trying to install metasploit in Ubuntu 10.10
[01:29] <KB1JWQ> http://www.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Ubuntu crazybrain
[01:30] <Abinadi> ActionParsnip, I did all those tweaks and ff is only marginally faster.  ugh
[01:31] <rocnjbarr> hiya! I'm having a problem with a rosewill rsm-8164 webcam. It is recognized by the driver its using but the picture is grainy and doesn't seem to work properly
[01:31] <rocnjbarr> any idea what driver I should be using?
[01:31] <Abinadi> !webcams | rocnjbarr
[01:31] <soreau> crazybrain: Did you try the instructions ActionParsnip gave? http://www.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Ubuntu
[01:32] <crazybrain> yeah
[01:32] <crazybrain> soreau: but still getting some problems
[01:34] <soreau> crazybrain: If you don't describe what problems you're having, I'm not sure anyone can help
[01:34] <crazybrain> i downloaded bz2 file
[01:34] <d4rkeyes> how to work on gftp??
[01:35] <crazybrain> whats the command to install from that
[01:35] <Ben__437> Is it possible to hard enter the password and remove the keyring password request dialog box?
[01:35] <hylian> well, that fixed it, thanks... it still boots straight into gnome, but now i can boot to blackbox... strange, i didn't set it that way.
[01:35] <Ben__437> its bloody annoying
[01:35] <bazhang> crazybrain,install from what
[01:35] <soreau> crazybrain: It's all there on the site. If you get stuck, explain what you're trying that isn't working and maybe someone can help
[01:35] <ardchoille> crazybrain: which app is it? Did you check to see if it's in the repos?
[01:36] <bazhang> ardchoille,metasploit
[01:36] <ardchoille> ah
[01:36] <elias79> I want to backup my home folder cp command is not working to external drive
[01:36] <joeoshawa> i have two sound cards in my computer both installed and working fine i want one for movies and media and one for the main computer stuff how can i do that
[01:36] <crazybrain> Its Metasploit
[01:36] <minimec> Ben__437: You can change the password and leave it blank. It will ask you once again, as you will loose security in some way, but afterwoards you won't see any dialog box again.
[01:36] <joeoshawa> can i have both on at once and force a program to use a certain sound card
[01:36] <bazhang> crazybrain,/join #metasploit
[01:37] <d4rkeyes> join #metasploit
[01:37] <Ben__437> Thanks Minimec, appreciate the respone :)
[01:37] <Abinadi> can someone tell me why I would be getting the following error from the install:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/568980/
[01:37] <soreau> ! compile | crazybrain
[01:37] <minimec> Ben__437: no problem
[01:37] <ardchoille> Abinadi: it's not in the repos
[01:38] <Abinadi> ardchoille, I already installed the repository
[01:38] <Abinadi> and did an apt-get install update
[01:38] <ardchoille> Abinadi: "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[01:38] <Ben__437> Bug ups to the Ubuntu dev team. Windows admin is loving the linux experience :)
[01:38] <soreau> Ben64: bug ups?
[01:38] <ardchoille> Abinadi: well, that error tells you that the package you requested is not in the repos
[01:38] <Ben__437> big hehe
[01:38] <soreau> Ben__437:  bug ups?
[01:38] <soreau> oh
[01:38] <Ben__437> had a bit to much beer
[01:39] <soreau> Ben__437: Always contributes to the experience ;)
[01:39] <Abinadi> ardchoille, wierd.  I'll get the output of that and do another pastebin
[01:39] <Ben__437> yeah
[01:39] <ardchoille> Abinadi: "sudo apt-get update"  not "install update"
[01:39] <zachera> hi, where is the x86_64 10.4 version of ubuntu desktop available?
[01:40] <soreau> ! download | zachera
[01:40] <ohsix> on the iso mirrors
[01:40] <zachera> yes, i know, but
[01:40] <minimec> Ben__437: remember! Autologin and 'blank' keyring password is bad, as keyring passwords can be made visible in the keyring manager!
[01:40] <zachera> which file...
[01:40] <poss> so copying on the live disc seems to be limited to about 300kbs, is this a restriction of the disc or the usb drive i am copying to?
[01:40] <Ben64> soreau: ?
[01:40] <bazhang> !torrents > zachera
[01:40] <soreau> zachera: Which ever one you want?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> zachera: sure: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso   MD5: c19e5139e10df2626055f1d9985856d7
[01:41] <soreau> Ben64: Sorry, it was auto-tab-complete-failure. I was trying for Ben__437
[01:41] <Ben__437> gotcha Minimec. Its my own home machine so we are good :)
[01:41] <Ben64> ah
[01:41] <ardchoille> poss: the system runs faster once installed to a hdd, livecd's run everything in ram
[01:41] <ohsix> and off the casper file on the drive
[01:41] <zachera> i downloaded this one: ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[01:41] <aroman> hey, if I want to change a string that appears in a graphical app, would changing /var/lib/dpkg/info/thatapp.templates do the trick?
[01:41] <zachera> and i installed it, etc
[01:42] <Abinadi> ardchoille, here is what I'm getting:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/568981/
[01:42] <ohsix> it runs normal speed off the livecd after a file's been read off the cd :]
[01:42] <zachera> but when i type `uname -m' it says "i686"
[01:42] <u19809> hi all, I need to reinstall my nvidia proprietary driver but i first need to remove it completely. after remove of all nvidia* packages I still seem to get an nvidia module loaded as the dmesg output shows a tainted kernel because of nvidia module
[01:42] <u19809> How can I get rid of nvidia completely ?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> zachera: then you used the 32bit ISO
[01:42] <zachera> but i need to be seeing "x86_64"
[01:42] <soreau> zachera: Yes, i386/i686 is x86
[01:42] <zachera> ActionParsnip: yes, where do i get the 64bit iso..
[01:42] <ohsix> how do i shot iso
[01:42] <ardchoille> Abinadi: ok, the repos should be isntalled, now do a "sudo apt-get update"
[01:43] <Abinadi> ardchoille, did that already
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> zachera: I just gave the link, or you can use the torrent: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[01:43] <ardchoille> Abinadi: if the package error persists, then that package is not in the repo you added
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: define "shot"
[01:43] <zachera> ActionParsnip: but that's for amd, no?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> zachera: it's for any 64bit CPU
[01:43] <Ben__437> minimec/soreau/ardchoille you guys involved with Ubuntu or just hardcore users?
[01:43] <ardchoille> Abinadi: apt-cache search pulseaudio|grep equalizer
[01:43] <ohsix> zachera: amd64 is a grandfathered name for it in linux; since they were first
[01:43] <zachera> ActionParsnip: but it says amd, lol
[01:43] <zachera> strange..
[01:44] <zachera> ok
[01:44] <JeffiPhone> Greetings, all.
[01:44] <zachera> thanks
[01:44] <Ben__437> Hi JeffiPhone
[01:44] <ardchoille> Ben64: Been using Ubuntu as my sole OS since 2005 and Linux since 2001. I guess I'm a hardcore user :)
[01:44] <Ben__437> :)
[01:44] <soreau> Ben__437: I file bugs, fix some things where I can and complain a lot
[01:44] <ohsix> zachera: practically speaking the x86 and amd64 ports have been merged in the kernel for a long time
[01:44] <JeffiPhone> I've been using Ubuntu since Wednesday!
[01:44] <Ben64> :(
[01:44] <Ben__437> hehe I like it Soreau
[01:44] <Abinadi> ardchoille, I got nothing back...just a blank prompt
[01:45] <ardchoille> Abinadi: then that package is not in the repo you added
[01:45] <minimec> Ben__437: Somehow we are all involved aren't we? Using Linux since 1999...
[01:45] <Ben__437> good stuff JeffiPhone
[01:45] <Ben64> anyone know why a computer would lock up on 10.10 while viewing any flash content?
[01:46] <Blue1> Ben64: 64 bit machine or 32 bit?
[01:46] <aeon-ltd> Ben64: what spec pc?
[01:46] <ardchoille> Ben64: sounds like a video card/driver issue
[01:46] <Abinadi> ardchoille, ugh...then would you have any clue where I can (or how I can access) that pulseaudio EQ (or any EQ for that matter)??
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> zachera: thats because a little while ago amd was the only desktop cpu which was 64bit, and its just stuck
[01:46] <ohsix> Ben64: nvidia driver?
[01:46] <JeffiPhone> But, Linux off and on since I don't remember when... Back when it was harder to get working, that's for sure. Ubuntu just works. It's like the Mac of Linux.
[01:46] <Ben__437> yean Minimec, I come from a redhat background, Web hostin mainly. over the last 3 years been doing windows 2k8 stuff. Ubuntu has been a breath of fresh air...
[01:46] <Ben64> Blue1: 64 bit
[01:46] <soreau> Ben__437: If it's a hard lock, it's usually a driver bug. Could be graphics driver or anything triggered by flash
[01:46] <soreau> erm..
[01:46] <Ben64> aeon-ltd: amd x4, 64 bit, gts250
[01:46] <Blue1> Ben64: would that you be using firefox by chance?
[01:46] <soreau> Ben__437: Sorry, it was auto-tab-complete-failure. I was trying for Ben64
[01:46] <Ben64> ardchoille: it worked with a different cpu/mobo
[01:46] <ardchoille> Abinadi: No, I don't even use sound on my systems
[01:46] <Ben__437> to many Bens hehe
[01:46] <soreau> Ben64: If it's a hard lock, it's usually a driver bug. Could be graphics driver or anything triggered by flash
[01:46] <ohsix> Ben64: are you the guy from yesterday?
[01:47] <Ben64> ohsix: nvidia yes, i know the guy from yesterday, seemed like there is more helpful people around now :)
[01:47] <Blue1> Ben64: i have had issues with firefox in 10.10 64 bit locking up my system with or w/o flash.  opera and chrome work fine, and firefox worked fine in 10.04
[01:47] <Ben64> soreau: but it worked on the same vid card before? and i have a gts250 and am not experiencing that problem
[01:47] <ardchoille> Ben64: hmm. no idea then unless the other mobo/cpu was a lot more powerful
[01:47] <Ben__437> JeffiPhone I know what you mean mate, runs great on my machine. If only I could get COD Modern Warefare 2 to run in wine :)
[01:48] <Abinadi> has anyone used the instructions here: http://exploreubuntu.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/equalizer-for-pulse-audio/ with any success??
[01:48] <Ben64> Blue1: oh, and it crashes in chrome too
[01:48] <Ben64> ardchoille: nope, was an upgrade to amd x4
[01:48] <JeffiPhone> That's what XBox is for, Ben. :D
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: maybe it'll work in Cedega or Crossover office if you have the brass :)
[01:48] <Blue1> Ben64: do yo have the 64 bit flash, or the 32 bit the comes with standard ubuntu?
[01:48] <gryfft> Ubuntu'd laptop is working great, except whenever I logout, clicking on my username just gives me the error sound. Same when I try to click the option to log in as someone else.
[01:48] <Ben64> Blue1: 64 bit
[01:48] <Ben__437> hehe yeah to cheap for an xbox :)
[01:48] <madsailor> Hello All, when I click on Home folder, Documents etc. under the places menu, eye of gnome opens rather than nautilus, and has a message about not being able to find images.  How can I change this back to that the places menu is usable again?
[01:48] <Blue1> Ben64: hmmm
[01:49] <Ben__437> ActionParsnip i'll check em out thanks :)
[01:49] <gryfft> It's set to automatically sign in when I reboot so I can always get back in but logging out leaves me stranded. Weird!
[01:49] <soreau> Ben64: You could be using a different version of the nvidia driver. You can test, if it's the driver by changing the Driver line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "nvidia" to "nouveau" then reboot
[01:49] <Ben__437> Time for another beer :)
[01:49] <JeffiPhone> I ran Counter-Strike in wine (very poorly) about 10 years ago.
[01:49] <zachera> thanks all for the support with my 64-bit issue
[01:49] <Blue1> Ben64: by default ubuntu folks use the 32 bit flash even on 64 bit systems, because they refuse to use alpha or beta releases of anything.
[01:49] <Ben64> soreau: how good is noveau?
[01:49] <Ben__437> JeffiPhone CS runs great under wine now
[01:50] <aroman> what does /var/lib/dpkg/info/$app.templates do?
[01:50] <Ben64> Blue1: yeah i know, makes me sad. 64 bit flash works so much better for me
[01:50] <JeffiPhone> With the new systems out now, I bet!
[01:50] <Blue1> Ben64: yes
[01:50] <Ben__437> yeah :)
[01:50] <soreau> Ben64: They have good people working on nouveau but nvidia refuses to cooperate with the open driver devs by releasing hw specs like intel and AMD/Radeon do
[01:50] <Ben__437> So glad spotify has been ported to linux :)
[01:50] <Ben64> soreau: i mean.. does it have 3d support?
[01:50] <JeffiPhone> It was like 2 frames per second back then, but my machine wasn't terribly fast to begin with.
[01:51] <soreau> Ben64: Thus, nouveau may be hit or miss depending on which card you have. Yes, it can do 3D
[01:51] <ardchoille> Abinadi: try doing the "sudo apt-get update" one more try, then try "apt-cache search pulseaudio-equalizer"
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: only if you have a full account :(
[01:51] <Ben__437> JeffiPhone Yeah, My first *nix adventure was 32mb ram, 122mhz cpu and 10GB HD :)
[01:52] <soreau> Ben__437: Isn't spotify the music service that doesn't work in .us?
[01:52] <Ben__437> ActionParsnip yep but its worth the cash
[01:52] <Ben__437> soreau I think they have US licence agreements now so should work. Dont quote me on that tho :P
[01:52] <ardchoille> Abinadi: Did you run "sudo apt-get install update" or "sudo apt-get update"? The latter is the correct one
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: true, looking at the paid account soon (not premium though). I stil use it in wine for free
[01:53] <JeffiPhone> HAHA! My Pentium III (first machine that was all mine) had a 6 gig.
[01:53] <soreau> Ben__437: Hm, I'll have to give it another go sometime
[01:53] <Ben__437> ActionParsnip yeah if you run it on wine you get more, the actual linux verison is missing some minor detail
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> JeffiPhone: my fileserver is a P3, its sweet :)
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: really, whats lacking?
[01:53] <JeffiPhone> It runs PS3 games? Using Ubuntu?
[01:54] <soreau> JeffiPhone: He said P3, not PS3
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> soreau: hahaha
[01:54] <zambaboo> hi guys
[01:54] <soreau> hi zambaboo
[01:54] <zambaboo> how do i find out which module detects my hardware?
[01:55] <soreau> zambaboo: What do you mean? The kernel ultimately 'detects' everything
[01:55] <JeffiPhone> Haha, whoops.
[01:55] <Ben__437> ActionParsnip offline files & full support :( the developers love linux so made a version for themselfs whilst coding so they released an unsupported version
[01:56] <Ben__437> http://www.spotify.com/int/blog/archives/2010/07/12/linux/
[01:56] <Ben__437> :)
[01:56] <misla> zambaboo: hi
[01:56] <JeffiPhone> My P3 was a slot A. Weird.
[01:56] <Abinadi> ardchoille, yes I did.  just a typo
[01:57] <ardchoille> Abinadi: ok. well all I can say is that package is not in that repo.. perhaps it has been deleted and that article isold?
[01:57] <anghellic9> testing
[01:58] <Abinadi> ardchoille, I don't know, how can I tell if its in the repository or not?  search in the synaptics pkg mgr?
[01:59] <ardchoille> Abinadi: well that package seems to be there, but the error you got says otherwise: https://launchpad.net/~psyke83/+archive/ppa
[02:00] <ardchoille> Abinadi: what is the exact update command you used?
[02:00] <madsailor>  when I click on places>Home folder, Places>Documents etc. , eye of gnome opens rather than nautilus, and has a message about not being able to find images.  How can I change this back so that the places menu is usable again?
[02:00] <will> ?
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> madsailor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631961
[02:02] <Jdogg420> hi can i use themes off gnome-look for xfce?
[02:02] <ardchoille> Abinadi: can you pastebin the output of "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[02:02] <Jdogg420> hi can i use themes off gnome-look for xfce?
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: thats cool, I have no offline data :)
[02:03] <madsailor> thanks ActionParsnip, I'll give it a try
[02:03] <Ben__437> ActionParsnip: great no excuses then hehe :)
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Jdogg420: right click desktop -> change background then click the theme tab and click the install button afaik
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: booya
[02:03] <Ben__437> ActionParsnip: casha
[02:03] <Ben__437> hehe
[02:03] <Ben__437> Ubuntu community seems to be extremly active comapred to others, very nice experience indeed
[02:04] <ardchoille> Ben64: Best community available, IMHO
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Ben__437: the projects contribute to multiple distros, so its all good
[02:04] <Ben64> : /
[02:04] <ardchoille> Ben64: sorry about that
[02:04] <Ben__437> ardchoille I agree
[02:04] <Ben64> lol
[02:04] <Ben__437> ardchoille has had a bit to much to drink ;)
[02:05] <ardchoille> lol
[02:05] <ardchoille> too much chai
[02:05] <Ben__437> do share hehe
[02:05] <Jdogg420> actionparsnip it dont show change background on xubuntu 10
[02:05] <Jdogg420> it has desktop settings
[02:05] <Jdogg420> hi can i use themes off gnome-look for xfce?
[02:06] <venkatraman> hi I was trying to upgrade my ubuntu vm from 10.04 to 10.10 ..It stopped in between due to power failure. Now not able to boot into recovery mode or single user mode.? Any idea on how to solve this issue?
[02:06] <ardchoille> Breekzy: Thank you! lol
[02:06] <Breekzy> ardchoille problem solved hehe
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> venkatraman: boot to liveCD, chroot to the installed OS then run: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:07] <Breekzy> ardchoille your name is very hard to spell after 5-6 beers tho :)
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Jdogg420: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[02:07] <venkatraman> ActionParsnip:  thx let me try that
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Breekzy: just type ard then press TAB
[02:07] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip ah thats the one :) been off IRC for over 5 years
[02:07] <Abinadi> ardchoille, here it is:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/568990/
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Breekzy: you'll use tab a LOT in linux ;)
[02:08] <ardchoille> Abinadi: are you running Ubuntu 10.10?
[02:08] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip: Old skool, like to type everything :)
[02:08] <will> there are chinese?
[02:08] <Abinadi> ardchoille, yes I am
[02:08] <ardchoille> !cn | will
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Breekzy: dude tab completion has been around for AGES in linux
[02:09] <will> ?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> !cn
[02:10] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip: Yeah also in Windows but never used it :)
[02:10] <will> no one there
[02:10] <ardchoille> Abinadi: ok, try this "apt-cache search -n pulseaudio-equalizer"
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Breekzy: yeah in XP, not in Win7 though, very weird
[02:10] <madsailor> ActionParsnip, That did the trick.  Thanks for saving me hours of googling frustration :)
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> madsailor: np bro
[02:10] <ardchoille> Abinadi: if that returns nothing, then I don't know what to tell you. There's a problem somewhere and I don't know where
[02:10] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip: I now see how handy it is, thanks for pointin it out buddy :)
[02:11] <Abinadi> ardchoille, all I got was a blank prompt
[02:11] <ardchoille> Abinadi: thought so, that package is no longer there
[02:11] <Abinadi> ugh!!
[02:11]  * Breekzy feels a bit wrong being in #ubuntu wilst building multiple CentOS vps
[02:11] <Breekzy> *** Whilst
[02:11] <ardchoille> Abinadi: which is puzzling because https://launchpad.net/~psyke83/+archive/ppa says it is
[02:11] <Breekzy> damn spelling
[02:11] <Abinadi> ardchoille, I have installed that ppa a dozen times by now.  lol.
[02:12] <Abinadi> ardchoille, right..that's what I thought too
[02:12] <ardchoille> Abinadi: kick a dead horse much? lol
[02:12] <will> are you all from english speaking country?
[02:12] <Breekzy> ardchoille: lol
[02:12] <ardchoille> Abinadi: perhaps one of the veterans here can help
[02:12] <Abinadi> ardchoille, I like kicking alligators in the face I think.  sheesh
[02:12] <Chikokishi> My sound was working perfectly untill about 3 hours ago when it suddenly stopped.  Where can i start to try to figure otu why?
[02:12] <Breekzy> Will|: yes, Scotland
[02:13] <Breekzy> Abinadi: lol
[02:13] <sirsargento> Hello, I seem to be having a problem with my drives. If I goto Place > Computer and right click on my DVD Drive or my harddrive and go to properties, it gives me no information and says the location is computer:///
[02:13] <will> hello,i am from china
[02:13] <sirsargento> anybody know what the problem may be?
[02:14] <Slix`> Err, is there a Chinese ubuntu channel? #ubuntu-cn ?
[02:14] <Abinadi> ardchoille, well anywayz it was nice of you to try and help.  Thanks!  Time for dinner ;)
[02:14] <Breekzy> hi Will
[02:14] <Ben64> !cn
[02:14] <Bruce_Wayne> will: hello I'm from pandora.. :P
[02:14] <ardchoille> Abinadi: sorry I couldn't do more
[02:14] <Chikokishi> This is pandora!
[02:15] <minimec> Chikokishi: What did you do, after you realized that? Did you logout/login the session again? Did you reboot?
[02:15] <Chikokishi> minimec: I ignored it for the most part because i was in class and muted the sound anyway
[02:15] <Chikokishi> But iv rebooted a few times since then and it still doesnt work
[02:16] <Chikokishi> now im at home where i can work on it
[02:16] <Chikokishi> (and no its not still muted)
[02:16] <misla> Slix`: #ubuntu-cn 你可以进入这个频道，是支持中文的
[02:17] <minimec> Chikokishi: Ok. First thing I would do is to check the properties of your sound applet. Did you suspend or hibernate your machine?
[02:17] <Slix`> misla, Right, thanks, but I was asking for will's benefit.
[02:17] <Chikokishi> nope, just shut down
[02:17] <minimec> Chikokishi: Volume applet...
[02:17] <ardchoille> Abinadi: that article you were following was written before Maverick was released, the package is there, just not available for Maverick. That's the best I can think of
[02:17] <Chikokishi> Where do i check that? I might add iv only been ubuntuing for half a week
[02:17] <Chikokishi> still windows oriniated =/
[02:18] <minimec> Chikokishi: The volume applet in your panel. Go to 'sound preferences'
[02:18] <Chikokishi> im in sound prefs now. is that where i should be?
[02:18] <Chikokishi> okai
[02:18] <will> how can i reply you?
[02:19] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, whats the problem you are having again
[02:19] <Chikokishi> jamiewan, sound suddenly stopped working, i have not changed anythign in my system
[02:19] <aeon-ltd> pci card; s-video in; rj11 in - what could it be?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> will: just type a users nick and then type, the text you see is what users are typing, the highlighting is done by your client
[02:19] <will> i am a novice
[02:19] <minimec> Chikokishi: yes. Check the output tab. Is the correct sound device activated?
[02:20] <IdleOne> will: if you are wanting to speak with people in chinese please type /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:20] <Chikokishi> "internal audio analog stereo"
[02:20] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, mute?
[02:20] <Chikokishi> seems right to me
[02:20] <Chikokishi> Jamiewan no
[02:21] <minimec> Chikokishi: Start a sound application like rhythmbox, play something and check the Applications tab in the sound preferences. Do you see the Rhythmbox application?
[02:22] <dapeamel> hello guys I go problem I have installed fluxbox on my ubuntu and Im using network manager (wicd) but when Im trying to connecting to a wpa2 It say bad password why?
[02:22] <Chikokishi> yes, its under applications
[02:23] <Breekzy> Considering removing Win7 and keeping Ubuntu, Anyone used VMWare Desktop with Ubuntu ona dual core machine? Need to check performance before taking the leap
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Breekzy: its fine here
[02:23] <Belphonet76> actionparsnip offline files & full support :( the developers love linux so doesn't that's fine too.
[02:23] <faenor> Belphonet76: GNU/Linux, not linux
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Belphonet76: how do you mean "full support"?
[02:24] <ElectricPrism>  Freekzy: I used Ubuntu exclusively for a couple months and did that, it worked okay on my Core i7, but I eventually moved back because my RAID 1 mirror was nearly destroyed, if you do it be sure to backup all important data before making the move
[02:24] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[02:25] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, check your hardware tab, and the profile settings there
[02:25] <minimec> Chikokishi: The sound server pulseaudio seems to run correctly. Can you do some 'Hardware tests' in the 'Hardware Tab' (Test Speakers)?
[02:25] <^Phantom^> Do I need to install the on-site virtualbox into ubuntu if I want usb support?
[02:25] <Chikokishi> i just tried the tests, i heard nothing
[02:26] <Jujugoboom> Pox click this link http://bit.ly/hu2Ipk
[02:26] <Jujugoboom> Plz
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom^: you will need to add the virtualbox ppa, or install virtual box 4 from the site for usb access, yes
[02:26] <^Phantom^> ActionParsnip, sweet thanks
[02:26] <Breekzy> another beer is called for :)
[02:26] <^Phantom^> ActionParsnip, I found some old floppies that i compressed with drivespace, so i need windows 98 >_>
[02:26] <minimec> Chikokishi: Tested different profiles?
[02:27] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, what is the hardware profile on?
[02:27] <jamiewan> lol
[02:27] <steff12321> Ok, well i want to set up a BNC, and it keeps telling me that it doesnt have the permission to write in/urr/***
[02:27] <Chikokishi> internal audio
[02:27] <IdleOne> Jujugoboom: Please don't post random links in here
[02:27] <Chikokishi> analog stereo duplex
[02:27] <steff12321>  /usr*
[02:27] <jamiewan> try setting profile to stereo analog duplex
[02:27] <jamiewan> oh
[02:27] <^Phantom^> ActionParsnip, if it isn't too much:  where does virtualbox put the .vdi files in windows?  I really don't want to spend all night installing windows 98 to a VM again
[02:27] <dapeamel> hello guys I go problem I have installed fluxbox on my ubuntu and Im using network manager (wicd) but when Im trying to connecting to a wpa2 It say bad password why?
[02:27] <minimec> Chikokishi: Check 'Analog Stereo Duplex/Output'
[02:28] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, the output tab balance control??
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom^: i have no idea, try searching the file system
[02:28] <^Phantom^> okay
[02:28] <sacarlson> dapeamel: in wicd try another wpa supplicant driver other than wext   try the 82???  driver instead
[02:28] <^Phantom^> thank you
[02:28] <steff12321> how do i gain access to write to /usr through terminal
[02:28] <crazybrain> VIdeo streams very slowly in the Media Player
[02:29] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, connector set to analoge output?
[02:29] <Chikokishi> iv recently installed the compiz extra features pack
[02:29] <Breekzy> ^Phantom^: check under My Documents :)
[02:29] <Chikokishi> might that affect my sound?
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: use: sudo -i   and do what you need, then run:  exit   when you are done
[02:29] <jamiewan> no
[02:29] <dapeamel> sacarlson,  would you like to explain more in detail please
[02:29] <^Phantom^> ActionParsnip, i figure since ubuntu actually picks up my drive as being there, i should hopefully be able to mount it to vbox
[02:29] <jamiewan> wouldn't imagine so
[02:29] <bullgard> steff12321: Use the prefix in front of your terminal command.
[02:29] <^Phantom^> if not, i'll go windows side :D
[02:29] <bullgard> steff12321: Use the prefix sudo in front of your terminal command.
[02:30] <sacarlson> dapeamel: wicd>preferences>wpa supplicant drive> NOT wext  pick something else
[02:30] <minimec> Chikokishi: compiz shouldn't affect your sound.
[02:30] <steff12321> bullgard: it doesnt work, i need it for a "make" command
[02:30] <jamiewan> Chikokishi, are you on a laptop or desktop
[02:30] <Chikokishi> minimec i wouldnt think so, but thats all that iv found
[02:30] <steff12321> bullgard: and for a "make install"
[02:30] <Chikokishi> maybe i need to update drivers and such?
[02:30] <Chikokishi> jamiewan laptiop
[02:31] <jamiewan> so your using the on board speakers?
[02:31] <bullgard> steff12321: Ah! You did put an incomplete question here in this channel.
[02:31] <dapeamel> sacarlson,  instead of?
[02:31] <minimec> steff12321: I would always compile in /home/yourname and then only do a 'sudo make install' to install the files in the correct directories.
[02:31] <Chikokishi> jamie yes
[02:31] <steff12321> bullgard: haha, sorry about that, i need to install a BNC, and it sais: Cannot write to *** :permission denied
[02:31] <^Phantom^> ActionParsnip, oh bugger all.  it seems i put my windows 98 vdi on one of my hard drives that is not inside the tower
[02:32] <sacarlson> dapeamel: I don't know the name of the one you should use I only know the one you should NOT use wext,  the one that should work is like 82?? something.  I don't have the wicd installed so I can't see it but as seen here http://wicd.sourceforge.net/screenshot.php
[02:32] <dapeamel> ok
[02:33] <k04n> hey, whats the quickest and easiest way to set up a temporary forwarding, of port X on my local adapter to port Y on a public interface?
[02:33] <bullgard> steff12321: Yes. Please follow the advice of minimec
[02:33] <dapeamel> ty
[02:33] <k04n> in otherwords, i want to let people in, to my port thats on my local adapter
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> k04n: set it up in your router
[02:33] <steff12321> bullgard: thanks
[02:33] <k04n> ActionParsnip: not on router...on the machine...the port isnt even exposed to the ethernet on the machine
[02:34] <minimec> steff12321: Other solution would be to compile in /tmp, if you dont need the source files anymore afterwards. Like that you have less 'chunk' in your /home/yourname directory.
[02:34] <webcoder> i'm running ubuntu 10.10 server (32 bit) and want to setup email that can be used by PHP's mail() function but I can also setup email users for any of the domains hosted on the server... any suggestions or links to tutorials that work
[02:34] <webcoder> i tried following one for postfix and dovecot with mysql but it didn't work
[02:34] <Rdaneel> good night
[02:36] <Rdaneel> guys, by anychance, any of you have problems with flash player? in depth after I watch a video all black background seems to have part of that video,... is it understandable?
[02:36] <bullgard> Can I safely erase the DEB program packages samba and samba-common-bin if I do not want to use Samba any longer?
[02:36] <webcoder> what i really need is an SMTP server that accepts connections from localhost without a login and IMAP where I can setup any email address
[02:37] <webcoder> i tried following this:  http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-ubuntu-10.10-maverick
[02:37] <webcoder> when i went to telnet into postfix to test it just hung
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Rdaneel: can you used: http://pastie.org and give the output of: uname -a; lsb_release -a; echo; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf     Thanks
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: sure
[02:38] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[02:38] <subminuentisch> does someone know a site where i can learn how to setup grub
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: just use software centre or apt-get and it will be fine
[02:39] <subminuentisch> manually
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | subminuentisch
[02:39] <subminuentisch> thanks
[02:39] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: im pretty sure you dont wanna help out a complete noob (like me), but i wanted to know how i can give terminal permission to write in /usr, i am installing a znc, but their irc channel seems pretty dead
[02:39] <minimec> steff12321: what do you want to compile and why. Isn't there a package for your software in the repositories?
[02:39] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: Synaptic is less suitable for this purpose?
[02:39] <steff12321> minimec: no
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: like I said, if you run:  sudo -i    you can do what you need, then run: exit to end
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: it's no different
[02:40] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: Ok.
[02:41] <subminuentisch> sry but there is noone in the grubchannel
[02:42] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: is sudo -i its own command, or do i do sudo -i make
[02:42] <steff12321> ??
[02:42] <Rdaneel> ActionParsnip: here you have it: http://pastie.org/1581104
[02:42] <jo-erlend1> is it possible to place a window on two different workspaces, but not the rest? Or is it only possible to choose one or all?
[02:42] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip: very in-demand mate :) speak to you later.
[02:43] <share> How do I make a folder readable 'by others' ?
[02:43] <Chikokishi> What is the terminal command for updating sound drivers?
[02:43] <Breekzy> ActionParsnip: that is you are in demand :) hehe
[02:43] <minimec> steff12321: sudo -i gives you full root access to your system. In my eyes this is not the best solution but it works. After 'sudo -i' you should be able to continue with 'make' 'make install'
[02:44] <steff12321> minimec: thanks
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> Rdaneel: try again. Run: uname -a; lsb_release -a; echo; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[02:44] <jamiewan> share: right click on it and then permissions tab follow that
[02:44] <ohsix> minimec: you can use fakeroot or checkinstall to make a package from something you want to manually installed
[02:44] <share> jamiewan: sorry I mean using the terminal
[02:44] <minimec> steff12321: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=znc&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names ???
[02:45] <steff12321> minimec: thats what im doing, you still need to install it ;)
[02:45] <jo-erlend1> share: how to make a folder readable... If a folder is readable, then you can see which files and folders it contains. If that's what you want, then chmod o+r /folder will do. If you want them to see the contents of files in that directory, then you'll need to do chmod o+r /folder/*
[02:46] <minimec> ohsix: Don't talk to me, as I have no problem ;)
[02:46] <ohsix> minimec: just a suggestion for recommendations
[02:46] <steff12321> ohsix: its me that has the problem, but i think its fixed :)
[02:46] <jo-erlend1> share: u is for user, g is for group and o is for others. You can use -R to make the changes apply to subdirectories and their files and folders.
[02:47] <share> jo-erlend1: I am trying to make a folder readable by other user
[02:47] <minimec> steff12321: 'sudo apt get install znc' will install the ubuntu package. On what ubuntu version are you 10.04 or 10.10?
[02:47] <share> chmod o+r didnt work
[02:47] <jo-erlend1> share: should the other user be able to read _files_ in that folder?
[02:47] <share> yes
[02:47] <steff12321> minimec: for me, it doesnt work with apt-get - dont you think i would try that first?
[02:48] <Rdaneel> ActionParsnip: Here it is: http://pastie.org/1581125
[02:48] <jo-erlend1> share: a readable folder only gives you the right to see which files and directories the directory contains. Re-read my previous message. I explained it.
[02:48] <Chikokishi> What is the terminal command for updating sound drivers?
[02:48] <minimec> steff12321: What version of ubuntu?
[02:48] <share> hm
[02:49] <steff12321> minimec: this is what happens, even with the sudo -i command: http://pastebin.com/ksCec4nh
[02:49] <steff12321> minimec: i can paste the whole command if you want
[02:49] <steff12321> minimec: i am running 10.10 on the server
[02:49] <minimec> steff12321: Please... What version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:49] <steff12321> minimec: 10.10
[02:49] <share> jo-erlend1: user A wants to read a folder inside B user home folder :)
[02:50] <sacarlson> share: jo-erlend1:  for others to view files in a folder I think you also need to set chmod o+x /folder/
[02:50] <minimec> steff12321: ok. type 'apt-cache search znc' in a console. What does that give you?
[02:50] <steff12321> wait
[02:50] <share> it worked sacarlson
[02:50] <share> tks
[02:51] <steff12321> minimec: when i do apt-get install, it doesnt work
[02:51] <jo-erlend1> sacarlson: thanks for picking up on that.
[02:51] <steff12321> minimec: this gives me a list of znc versions
[02:51] <minimec> steff12321: ok. type 'apt-cache search znc' in a console. What does that give you?
[02:51] <steff12321> minimec: this gives me a list of znc versions
[02:51] <nayn> how can I reset my gnome menu - top panel words have disappeared and I do not know how to get them back - the icons are fine - but the words disappear
[02:51] <steff12321> erm
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> !panel
[02:52] <steff12321> minimec: whoops
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[02:52] <steff12321> minimec: :(
[02:52] <minimec> steff12321: So the package is there. now type 'sudo apt-get install znc' in that console.
[02:52] <steff12321> minimec: thank you :)
[02:52]  * steff12321 thinks minimec wants to kill me
[02:52] <minimec> steff12321: Heureka ;)
[02:52] <steff12321> minimec: i ran apt-get install znc
[02:52] <steff12321> minimec: now hwat?
[02:52] <steff12321> what*
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> !info znc
[02:53] <steff12321> brb
[02:53] <minimec> steff12321: It should simply be installed now ;)
[02:53] <steff12321> minimec: how do i run it?
[02:54] <share> how do I make make the files readable for user group
[02:54] <jamiewan> nayn, or you could just log out and back in, sometimes that happens to me
[02:54] <minimec> steff12321: znc in that same console? ;)
[02:54] <steff12321> share: why dont you just run a simple ftp server and get it over with?
[02:54] <steff12321> minimec: lol, what command?
[02:54] <jamiewan> nayn, or just add to panel the menu bar again
[02:54] <nayn> thnaks = it worked right cliking
[02:54] <steff12321> share: or a shared folder
[02:54] <MockY> In fstab, how do I escape the ' symbol (apostrophe) when dealing with cifs?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> share: or use sftp which is active if you install openssh-server
[02:55] <minimec> steff12321: 'znc' is the command!
[02:55] <share> steff12321: thats now what i want to do. stop guessing :(
[02:55] <share> ActionParsnip: yes this is related with ssh sv
[02:55] <Rdaneel> woops!
[02:55] <share> ActionParsnip: permission problems
[02:55] <steff12321> share: sudo apt-get install ftp | its overall, the easiest thing, and if you do it on another user, then you wont have to worry about that person accessing your files
[02:55] <steff12321> minimec: thanks
[02:56] <minimec> steff12321: so it works?
[02:56] <share> I want ssh client to access some files
[02:56] <share> .
[02:56] <sirsargento> Does anybody have an idea why in the 'computer' folder when i goto the properties of my dvd drive and filesystem it has no information and says the location is computer:/// ?
[02:56] <steff12321> minimec: can i run it in another terminal window
[02:57] <steff12321> minimec: it sais i shouldnt run it as roo
[02:57] <steff12321> root*
[02:57] <researcher1> is it possible to import a user account file from excel sheet  to Ubuntu?
[02:57] <share> "folder access" is list files only.. i want to change it access files
[02:58] <minimec> steff12321: you definitly shouldn't. <ctrl>c, then 'exit', then 'znc' in that console
[02:58] <costas> !alsaconf
[02:58] <costas> !alsa
[02:59] <steff12321> minimec: thanks, works well for now, im just configuring it
[02:59] <eduardo> Hi there, I need help with VPN PPTP connections. Anyone there that can guide me?
[02:59] <jo-erlend1> share: you're going to have to read a little bit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions will give you a good starting point.
[02:59] <cjae> anyone know how to fix how loud smplayer is at the first two seconds it plays something then its like a normalizer kicks in  and drops the volume off about 20 %
[02:59] <minimec> steff12321: Guess we are all happy for you...
[02:59] <share> .
[03:00] <WXZ> does anyone know a nautilus extension that lets you change metadata on the fly?
[03:01] <cjae> if you have your box hooked to the stereo like me this dramatic volume diff can cause undesirable effects
[03:01] <eduardo> some VPN PPTP expert ?
[03:02] <share> 754 = "-rwxr-xr--" = rwx for owner, r-x for group, r-- for other
[03:02] <deejay> is there a lubuntu  support channel?
[03:03] <researcher1> I want to creat 180 user accounts to authorise a printer. What can be done ?
[03:03] <deejay> I'm having sound issues for a 1999 laptop...  I don't think anyone's game to help are they?
[03:03] <deejay> lspci doesn't even see a sound card
[03:04] <deejay> neither does lshw
[03:04] <deejay> yeah... it's that fun :)
[03:05] <bullgard> !sound | deejay
[03:06] <ershad> hello, May i know installing which gstreamer package would solve the rhythmbox seek-bar issue?
[03:06] <deejay> bullgard, is there a lubuntu support channel?  I don't have the volume applet... :(
[03:07] <share> jo-erlend1: yeah man tks.
[03:07] <share> for the link
[03:07] <bullgard> !lubuntu
[03:08] <Rdaneel> ActionParsnip: so, what do you think: http://pastie.org/1581125
[03:08] <ohsix> ershad: what issue?
[03:08] <Dementio> (ershad): i think it's plugins-ugly
[03:09] <ershad> ohsix, the seek-bar in rhythymbox is disabled
[03:09] <ershad> Dementio, ok, I will try installing it, thanks.
[03:09] <Dementio> np
[03:09] <chachin> hey when I restart my pc to boot back into win7 from ubuntu. it says "Error: Unknown filesystem.
[03:09] <ohsix> ershad: that'd be if the file type you were playing couldn't seek; what type of file is it?
[03:09] <chachin> <Grub Rescue>
[03:09] <ohsix> ershad: or a damaged vbr mp3 without xing tags
[03:10] <chachin> any help?
[03:10] <ershad> ohsix, mp3 files
[03:10] <ohsix> ershad: try checking the files with oidua, they might be damaged
[03:10] <ershad> ohsix, no, the these mp3 files having been playing smoothly in other distros.
[03:11] <ershad> ohsix, and the gstreamer i installed was -ffmpeg
[03:11] <ohsix> ershad: doesn't really matter ;] and oidua will answer yes or no definitively
[03:11] <chachin> any help?
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Rdaneel: you need to sort out the available file, as its broken
[03:12] <ershad> ohsix, I'm sure the files are not damaged :)
[03:12] <ohsix> ershad: unless you check you aren't; but it's pointless to argue
[03:12] <Rdaneel> ActionParsnip: so I deinstall and reinstall the file?
[03:13] <ershad> ohsix, ok, I will check :)
[03:13] <Breekzy> just spilled some beer on myself, time for bed...
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Rdaneel: you wont be able to do anything til you fix the file
[03:13] <Breekzy> night folks :)
[03:13] <ohsix> ershad: thanks, i wanna file a bug if it's a real bug and that's the first step
[03:15] <Abinadi> has this ever happened to anyone:  every time I log into maverick, it re-downloads and installs dropbox
[03:15] <Rdaneel> ActionParsnip: got it, thank you!!
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: try removing it then reinstalling it
[03:16] <chachin> i guess thist is not a help channel after all :(
[03:16] <Abinadi> ActionParsnip, I'll do that.  thanks ;)
[03:17] <chachin> Error: Unknown filesystem"
[03:17] <chachin> why did i get that while trying to reboot pc?
[03:17] <ershad> ohsix, checked, there are no issues with songs,
[03:18] <Bocephus> your dues are not up to dateb ?
[03:18] <asustek> any one try amd64 live cd on 880g mobo?
[03:18] <ohsix> ershad: can you post one of the lines of the output? they're vbr with xing tags?
[03:18] <ershad> ohsix, ok, please wait a minute
[03:19] <Bocephus> I'm just trying JULinux m8s  don't mind me
[03:21] <ershad> ohsix, could you give me the correct argument list?
[03:21] <asustek> live cd installer fail on 880 g mobo currently downloading alternate install cd any chance of success?
[03:21] <interpol> i love asus hardware
[03:21] <chachin> damn this channel is useless...
[03:21] <asustek> lol ubuntu doesnt
[03:21] <interpol> using with ubuntu always...
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> asustek: what happens when you tried?
[03:22] <Ben64> asustek: i have an 880g, no problems
[03:22] <ohsix> ershad: oidua dir/ should work, the default format shows the info
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> asustek: saying in "failed" doesn't tell us much at all
[03:22] <interpol> i'm on asus 900 it work 100%
[03:22] <bullgard> !language | chachin
[03:22] <asustek> logo appears at bottom of screen the after a short time screen goes black and thats it
[03:22] <Bocephus> he/she left
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> asustek: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[03:23] <ershad> ohsix, it's just listing the artist/album name
[03:24] <ohsix> hm odd
[03:24] <ershad> ohsix, and seek bar works well with ogg files
[03:24] <ohsix> they're probably not VBR then
[03:25] <ershad> ohsix, I read it from web that correct plugin must be installed to get the seekbar working
[03:25] <ohsix> shrug, i never had to do anything unusual here
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> asustek: simple stuff, if you state your case rather than vague questions, you get answers
[03:25] <amit> if we have a user with both in primary and secondary group then if we chaek the group of user what wil show his primary or both group by  command groups?
[03:26] <amit> ?????
[03:27] <roygbiv> amit: /usr/bin/id ? i don't understand the question
[03:28] <interpol> always some noisy signals...
[03:29] <amit> i am saying that if suppose amit is a user of primary group ram and secondary group shyam.then what will show  his group if i check through command "groups" both the group or only his primary
[03:29] <afuentes> Why the first part in ~/.ssh/known_hosts is not human redable? is not suppose to be the machines ip? ive got 3 machines with ubuntu and all of them are full of nonsense characters
[03:29] <amit> ?
[03:29] <deejay>  hello, I want to install a remote desktop application onto a lubuntu system so I can remote into this laptop and fix it remotely.  Would i be looking for something like Vino or something like xrdp?  I'm on lubuntu
[03:29] <interpol> stall or something... check
[03:30] <amit> roygbiv:????
[03:30] <asustek> they should remove that logo and replace it with press any key for options lol
[03:32] <asustek> i select nomodeset on f6 and now have a blinking cursor i have terrible luck lol
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> deejay: x11vnc, tightvncserver, linuxvnc and vino are in the repos
[03:32] <faenor> ActionParsnip: GNU/Linux, not linux
[03:32] <webcoder> got a weird one... running ubuntu 10.10 server.  installed postfix but when it starts up it says the port is already in use.  lsof says sendmail is attached to 25 but when i do sudo aptitude purge sendmail it doesn't remove it
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> faenor: you said earlier, considering the target audience of Ubuntu I think the phrasing is understood
[03:33] <webcoder> i did service sendmail stop and tried to start postfix but it didn't stop it either
[03:33] <roygbiv> webcoder maybe stop sendmail first then purge
[03:33] <webcoder> roygbiv: i'll give it a shot
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> faenor: the invention of language is to convey a message. If the message is sent and recieved and equally understood on both ends then the laguage used in the middle is moot
[03:33] <ershad> ohsix, it's ok, i will try to fix, thanks :)
[03:33] <roygbiv> webcoder use good ol brute force and start killing processes
[03:34] <ohsix> faenor: what's a GNU/Linux
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> faenor: I have far better things than satisfy something that trivial when I can be helping users. I've been using Linux long enough to understand the difference but in the context of support I think everyone knows what everyone else means, just like you did.
[03:35] <overclucker> faenor: You a stallmanite?
[03:35] <webcoder> roygbiv: excellent... killed sendmail and postfix finally starts up
[03:35] <webcoder> roygbiv: any idea how to get rid of sendmail now? :)
[03:36] <roygbiv> try the purge now that the daemons have quit
[03:36] <webcoder> roygbiv: i did... i get No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[03:37] <webcoder> delete /etc/init.d/sendmail ?
[03:37] <asustek> ActionParsnip: I am currently burning the alternate cd for textmode install. If it is a video driver problem will i be able to use the manufacturers driver install without the GUI?
[03:37] <roygbiv> not sure then webcoder
[03:37] <roygbiv> oh, that'll stop it from running on boot yes
[03:37] <roygbiv> but it doesn't delete the software
[03:37] <webcoder> roygbiv: ya know what?  i think i'm ok with that. :)
[03:37] <roygbiv> easy enough ;)
[03:38] <webcoder> roygbiv: thanks for your help!! :D
[03:38] <roygbiv> mp!
[03:40] <amit> how can we use tty mode in virtual box OS?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> asustek: the default install comes with nouveau which can cause issues, the nomodeset bootoption fixes it in many cases. Once you get the proprietary driver in the system will be fine
[03:41] <ohsix> cause issues ;]
[03:41] <ohsix> be sure to report issues; so they can be fixed
[03:43] <durando> hey guys i have to reboot my laptop everytime i want to view my sdcard any ideas how to get this thing to auto mount, HP running 10.10
[03:44] <jack_> durando: reboot? are you unable to mount it manually?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> durando: is the system a branded laptop or PC or is it a USB card reader?
[03:44] <Diamondcite> durando: So the SD card is your extended storage? Or just for getting picture off something like a camera?
[03:44] <durando> ActionParsnip: its hp branded into the notebook
[03:44] <jack_> durando: GNOME handles the automounting of cdcards
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> durando: what model
[03:44] <jack_> sd*
[03:44] <durando> i could more than likely mount manually if i knew
[03:44] <durando> ActionParsnip:  the notebook or the reader?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> durando: the notebook
[03:45] <durando> hang on not sure
[03:45] <steff12321> im back :)
[03:45] <steff12321> i need to know how to load modules into znc
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> durando: its massively important to mention the model. You should do that in subsequent questions
[03:45] <durando> is there a place in ubuntu that woudl tell me or do i have to tip the notebook try and read model
[03:45] <steff12321> anyone here have ANY experience with znc?
[03:46] <durando> dv4 is the model
[03:46] <Diamondcite> durando: It should usually be on the bottom of the notebook, there should be a stick with lots of words, one of those being "Model"
[03:46] <Diamondcite> durando: dv4 is more like a series of notebooks, but it helps a bit ^_^
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> durando: ok, remeber to add that next time
[03:46] <Kentrel> Hi, when I do a "tcpdump -i eth0" after rebooting I notice a lot of connections, even though I'm not running anything. Does that command also show connection attempts, by bittorrent users, etc?
[03:46] <jack_> Why does the model matter? Out of curiousity.
[03:47] <Kentrel> not connections, but packets I guess
[03:47] <jack_> Kentrel: tcpdump shows packets in and out of your interface
[03:47] <interpol> yes
[03:47] <afuentes> Why the first part in ~/.ssh/known_hosts is not human redable? is not suppose to be the machines ip? ive got 3 machines with ubuntu and all of them are full of nonsense characters
[03:47] <interpol> yes, packets in fact, tcpdump...
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> durando: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsusb
[03:47] <Diamondcite> jack_: For branded systems it helps us know if there is unit specific issues which might creep up and speeds up the problem solving.
[03:47] <Kentrel> jack, so I can be constantly bombarded with packets, but they're not actual connections? Does that slow my system down
[03:47] <interpol> else: do netstat -anpvlt
[03:47] <jack_> afuentes: i believe they are encrypted
[03:47] <durando> dv4-2145dx
[03:48] <durando> sure
[03:48] <afuentes> so jack_ how am i suppose to read that file?
[03:48] <jack_> Kentrel: what connects are they?
[03:48] <Kentrel> jack, they're mostly to do with the port that I last ran bittorrent on
[03:48] <jack_> afuentes: you're not. it contains the encrypted keys of your machines
[03:48] <jack_> Kentrel: thats on a fresh boot?
[03:48] <ohsix> it's _encoded_
[03:48] <Kentrel> jack, yes
[03:49] <durando> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ZrGfkha7
[03:49] <jack_> those are packets. im not sure if it shows packets that are not accepted
[03:49] <ohsix> Kentrel: people will keep trying to connect until they check the tracker again and see you're no longer on it
[03:49] <jack_> eeeh i dont know why t
[03:49] <jack_> 'those are pakcets' showed up
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> durando: ok, and:  lspci    Thanks
[03:50] <ohsix> some trackers have announce intervals as high as 40 minutes
[03:50] <Kentrel> Will those packets slow my system down, because sometimes I swear my internet connection becomes slow if I've been seeding, and then switch off Vuze
[03:50] <durando> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/bckfrEGi
[03:50] <ruan> Kentrel: you can limit the seeding rate
[03:50] <jack_> I just setup a tcpdump on my machine monitoring port 23 and tried to connect. i get a connection refused and no packets show up on the tcpdump
[03:50] <Diamondcite> Kentrel: Generally a connection would slow down if you upload too much, but those residual connections should not hurt
[03:51] <ohsix> Kentrel: your isp might be doing the slowing down when it sees bittorrent traffic, even a thousand connections a second to a port that is closed uses very little resources
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> durando: ok it's a JMicron Technology SD card reader
[03:51] <interpol> get the source of tcpdump and read it ;)
[03:51] <Kentrel> ah, I see
[03:51] <ohsix> Kentrel: if you want to see how often your network card is waking up your computermachine, itop can show it
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> durando: possible fixes here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/258446
[03:53] <afuentes> jack_, so is there no way to tell what machines those keys belong to?
[03:53] <steff12321> Kentrel: if you wanna solve basically all of your bittorrent problems, my suggestion is, get a seedboc
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: not if the ISP is doing what ohsix said
[03:56] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: yeah, but the seedbox will definitely help him get better speeds, and, im guessing his ISP also throttles the BT connection
[03:57] <bob_> hi everyone!
[03:57] <steff12321> hi
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: so any system running standard torrent protocol will be hit, seedbox or not
[03:58] <bob_> I've downloaded ZendStudio-8.0.0-x86.tar.gz for ubuntu. how should I install it?
[03:59] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: external seedbox; not from his network, he gets the files via ftp
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: freaky
[04:00] <MockY> In fstab, how do I escape the ' symbol (apostrophe) when dealing with cifs? One of the Windows shares I need to mount has an apostrophe in its name.
[04:00] <jack_> durando: does the problem only occur with the sdcard? what about usb thumbdrives? same issue?
[04:00] <durando> jack_: i dont have a usb stick
[04:00] <durando> in fact i only have this sd card as part of the new rules at work
[04:00] <jack_> do you have any other type of storage? how about a cd. does that get mounted automagically?
[04:00] <durando> god i hate life
[04:00] <Diamondcite> durando: What is needed for the SD card? do you need to remove it often?
[04:00] <ohsix> durando: does the card reader show up in lsusb
[04:00] <ruan> Kentrel: also, you can use torrent encryption if you suspect your isp is slowing you down, this will hide bittorrent traffic
[04:00] <Diamondcite> ohsix: It shows according to ActionParsnip.
[04:00] <durando> Diamondcite: yeah its gotta be removed every day and put in the safe at work
[04:00] <ohsix> ruan: not quite, at least for the type of throttling that slows your whole line down if you're doing it
[04:00] <Diamondcite> durando: Do you unmount before removing it? (not eject)
[04:00] <durando> Diamondcite: after we figure out this issue of getting it to mount correctly i also need to figure out a way to encrypt it
[04:00] <ohsix> ruan: and if you allow incoming connections that aren't encrypted the isp can still identify that the port is being used for bittorrent traffic
[04:00] <durando> Diamondcite: i haven't dont it yet like i said just got it
[04:00] <ruan> ohsix: you can force incoming connections to be encrypted too
[04:00] <Diamondcite> durando: Well truecrypt might help you with encryption needs (I don't know how to use it yet)
[04:00] <ohsix> ruan: you can, but you can't force what other clients do
[04:00] <ruan> ohsix: it rejects non-encrypted traffic, i've experienced that
[04:00] <Diamondcite> durando: Part of manual mounting.. when an sd card is inserted... it should create a new /dev/sd* device...
[04:00] <ohsix> that's all well and good; but the traffic can still be identified by what had been sent before and shortly after the connection is closed on the receiving end
[04:00] <durando> i thought these things were supposed to auto mount?
[04:00] <durando> it mounted when i rebooted
[04:00] <ruan> that might be encrypted too
[04:00] <ohsix> durando: they are
[04:00] <Diamondcite> durando: boots mounts everything it sees, how ever, since the card isn't insert as a fresh USB drive, the automount might mis-detect
[04:00] <Diamondcite> (Did a server just die?)
[04:00] <ruan> though i think connections are opened with encryption
[04:00] <ohsix> Diamondcite: not quite, udisks knows about drives with removable media; and that's how card readers show up, unless they're weird and disappear alltogether when a card isn't in it, or something weirder
[04:00] <ruan> so they wont close without it
[04:00] <ohsix> heh
[04:00] <durando> do how do we fix?
[04:00] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: you should look into it, you want the link?
[04:00] <ohsix> ruan: only way to know if an incoming connection is encrypted is to accept it and read some of it
[04:00] <ruan> ohsix: true
[04:00] <steff12321> what was that?
[04:00] <Flannel> !netsplit
[04:01] <jack_> people get banned at netsplit? weird
[04:02] <linuxrules> wtf?
[04:02] <LinuxNoob> i cant even look at that link, because of the errors on my screen, i have no idea if it is drivers, or what.. i have tried everything.
[04:02] <Abinadi> ok, I've asked this question in #vbox and there is noone (active) to answer the question, so I thought I'd try here:  Has anyone used maverick (or any flavor of ubuntu) as a host OS and used VirtualBox and windows as the guest OS?
[04:02] <LinuxNoob> i do
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: I'm sure many have
[04:03] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: you want the link to a cheap, good seedbox?
[04:03] <jrgill> ok, why is ubuntu livecd saying it can't find a cd-rom drive?  it's obviously reading from the drive.
[04:03] <ohsix> from the other side of the networks perspective we were flooding by the time the sync finished :]
[04:03] <LinuxNoob> i use winvista for sc2 lol, only reason. and to test certain..files.
[04:03] <Abinadi> ok great...... Has anyone tried to do an upgrade of the guest OS
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: my downloads are held back too 300k/s down. I'm in no hurry. Downloads trickle down and keep web access fast :)
[04:03] <LinuxNoob> hmm..no
[04:03] <jack_> jrgill: is it? i dont think the live environment reads from cdrom. it reads from memory
[04:03] <LinuxNoob> the os in the VM?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Abinadi: why not ask the main question you have, you'll get an answer faster
[04:04] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: REALLY? is that all the internet, or just BT
[04:04] <LinuxNoob> just delete it and fresh install of new os..
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: that's all I give it
[04:04] <jrgill> jack_: what does it do, copy everything to memory when i boot and then it reads that?
[04:04] <jack_> jrgill: try taking the cdrom out of the tray and see if it continues to work :P
[04:04] <jrgill> yeah
[04:04] <Abinadi> LinuxNoob, yes the windows OS is in a VIrtualBox and I'm trying to figure out how to do an upgrade
[04:04] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: so it doesnt drag down your whole internet speed?
[04:05] <bio__> I can't believe I'm asking this but I'm having some trouble getting javascript or HTML5 to work on local files in Ubuntu.  HTML renders but nothing from HTML5 or javascript this goes for Chromium and Firefox.
[04:05] <jrgill> well i know it copied from the cd drive but i guess thats at a lower level
[04:05] <ohsix> Flannel: thanks
[04:05] <LinuxNoob> just do a clean install of the new OS on ur vm, delete ur old OS.
[04:05] <Diamondcite> testing 123...
[04:05] <Flannel> Diamondcite: Thanks :)
[04:05] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: with this seedbox, you can stram the videos from the box, so you dont need to download them, which i find a pretty good feature
[04:05] <ohsix> bio__: the file probably has the wrong mime type
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: its all it needs really, I have a schedule between 4am and 8am to use 100% speed
[04:05] <bob_> I used sudo install ZendStudio-8.0.0-x86.tar.gz install/path. this extracted files there but the executaion file does not run.
[04:05] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: and for only $14.95/mo at 100Mbit, its a pretty good deal
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: I have a filesever on LAN with my stuff
[04:05] <jack_> jrgill: what're you trying to do?
[04:05] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: 100GB storage and UL BW, and UL torrents
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: I pay 0 per month and get gigabit speed...
[04:06] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: you wanna send me some :)
[04:06] <asustek> #debian
[04:06] <bio__> I'll check, thanks ohsix
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: send what?
[04:07] <asustek> ?#debian
[04:07] <Diamondcite> steff12321: Why not do it from your home if you don't have a data transfer limit?
[04:07] <jrgill> well i have a laptop cd drive.  i guess its sata.  do i need a special flag when booting the live cd?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> asustek: try:  /join #debian
[04:07] <steff12321> Diamondcite: i have an 80gb/mo BW cap
[04:08] <jrgill> jack_: trying to boot the live cd
[04:08] <steff12321> Diamondcite: plus i have only 15 Mbps
[04:08] <jack_> jrgill: ? are you not able to get into the live environmetn at all?
[04:08] <^Phantom2^> What all distros of linux will run/run well on 192MB of ram or less?
[04:08] <faenor> ^Phantom2^: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:08] <steff12321> Diamondcite: and i need to seed too (on private trackers)
[04:08] <jack_> how far do you get?
[04:08] <jack_> jrgill: ^
[04:08] <slie> who all here has moved totally to grub2?
[04:08] <ohsix> steff12321: seed to a machine on the lan ;]
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: what do you want me to send you exactly?
[04:08] <asustek> ActionParsnip: lol ty
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> slie: i have
[04:08] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: where do you get that speed, the fastest thats avaliable in canada is 100 for @150/mo
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> asustek: np :)
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: it's my home lan...
[04:09] <steff12321> ActionParsnip: whats your internet speed then?
[04:09] <aroman> hey guys, does anyone have any idea how to customize a text string in ubiquity?
[04:09] <jack_> ActionParsnip: when you say home lan are you talking about like... a hop being your router and thats it? ;P
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> steff12321: 8Mb
[04:09] <slie> ActionParsnip, you like it better?
[04:09] <steff12321> ohsix: they can notice cheating, trust me, i am a mod at a BT site
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> jack_: yeah, system, router, server
[04:10] <bob_> can you show me some commands to install an app from a local source?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> slie: doesnt matter me any, I don't dual boot
[04:10] <jrgill> jack_: can't get into the environment at all.  failing to load the cd drive seems to halt the process.
[04:10] <ohsix> steff12321: no they can't, unless you're the only one in the peers for the one torrent and they're the uploader
[04:10] <jack_> jrgill: so you've set the machine to boot from cdrom but it fails to boot? the machine halts?
[04:10] <ohsix> steff12321: plus you can stop registering downloads at all by not contacting the tracker after the initial scrape
[04:11] <ohsix> steff12321: or you can not scrape at all and get peers from somewhere else
[04:11] <jrgill> jack_: it brings me to a wizard to select keyboard, language, etc, and then it says it cannot detect the cd drive and asks me to specify some modules via floppy.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> jack_: does it stop at a black screen?
[04:11] <jack_> jrgill: i see. is it hte newest version of ubuntu? it sounds like the drivers for hte cdrom arent able to be loaded
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> jack_: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[04:11] <ohsix> steff12321: trust me i know it's all bullshit built on top of 2 numbers that the torrent client happens to send to the tracker ;]
[04:11] <jack_> ActionParsnip: wat. i have no black screen issues. :P
[04:12] <jrgill> jack_: it's old: 5.04
[04:12] <steff12321> ohsix: i meant if you seed to a local machine, but still, u could always use RM
[04:12] <jack_> jrdnyquist: why are you using 5.04???
[04:12] <jack_> jrgill: ^
[04:12] <jack_> jrdnyquist: unping.
[04:12] <jrgill> ?
[04:12] <jrgill> oh
[04:12] <h00k> !language | ohsix
[04:12] <ohsix> steff12321: RM is detectable, any given torrent client is not
[04:12] <jrgill> i ordered a bunch of those free CDs back when they were doing that
[04:12] <jack_> jrgill: 5.04 is 6 years old.
[04:13] <asustek> i wonder if it is a southbridge (ide controller) problem because on a windows 7 install it hangs on extracting files?
[04:13] <ohsix> steff12321: you need to do hardcore statistical tests on the peer data to even tell if more bandwidth is going one way than the other, and even then with more than 2 people you can't tell who's doing it definitively
[04:13] <jrgill> lmao
[04:13] <ohsix> steff12321: AND that same client could also be downloading, and uploading very slow, to stay in the noise
[04:14] <steff12321> ohsix: tu she
[04:14] <steff12321> ohsix: tu shae*
[04:14] <ohsix> it's really all down to who's on the torrent and how low key you want to be, but if you're just uploading you can find a popular torrent with 20+ people on it and just do it there
[04:14] <jack_> jrgill: try using 10.10 or 10.04. they'll probably work. new releases are out every 6 months making your copy 12 releases behind.
[04:14] <ohsix> steff12321: touche' :D
[04:15] <steff12321> ohsix:  :)
[04:15] <jack_> jrgill: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_5.04_.28Hoary_Hedgehog.29
[04:15] <ruan> lol
[04:15] <ohsix> steff12321: what site btw?
[04:15] <frybye> Hi - how do I get the messed-up non-sorted kontacts on ubuntu one to be properly useable in evoloution (with 10.10?)
[04:16] <svelte> hey, can anyone help me out? grub isn't working and I have no idea what to do (didn't just install windows partition)
[04:16] <steff12321> ohsix: dispersethe.net
[04:16] <jack_> svelte: what is grub doing?
[04:16] <ruan> svelte: what happens at boot?
[04:16] <svelte> just hangs right after bios
[04:16] <steff12321> ohsix: new site, just made last sept
[04:16] <ohsix> steff12321: neat
[04:16] <NooBoontoo> Ok, so everytime i login Ubuntu I have to change permissions on nvidia0 and nvidiactl and change my screen resolution, how can i just login and automatically work
[04:16] <svelte> blinking cursor, no grub indication
[04:16] <jack_> svelte: perhaps it cannot read your mbr. boot up with livecd and re-install it
[04:16] <ruan> svelte: is the grub drive set to boot priority #1?
[04:17] <svelte> yes, it is
[04:17] <ohsix> steff12321: do the world a favor and be a good mod, the numbers can be completely faked and are meaningless, don't let it fit into your decisions :]
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> svelte: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[04:17] <steff12321> ohsix:  you should join :)
[04:17] <jack_> NooBoontoo: what ar eyou changing hte permissions to?
[04:17] <ruan> svelte: it could choose any drive
[04:17] <ruan> svelte: it did that with me, installed grub on other drive
[04:17] <svelte> I have 10.10
[04:17] <NooBoontoo> jack_ so I can use Blender
[04:17] <steff12321> ohsix: we actually have no cheaters atm, and a small database of only 1500 people,
[04:17] <svelte> but my livecd is 9.04
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> svelte: it will work in either
[04:17] <svelte> is that fine?
[04:17] <jack_> NooBoontoo: not why. what are you changing the permissions to? and from what?
[04:18] <ohsix> steff12321: there aren't any cheaters when you can't trust the information you use, that's my point
[04:18] <ruan> svelte: do you have only one hard drive?
[04:18] <svelte> it's not a graphics card problem
[04:18] <jack_> NooBoontoo: are you using nvidia's propriatry drivers? or hte open source ubuntu drivers?
[04:18] <svelte> yeah, only one, but I have multiple partitions
[04:18] <jack_> svelte: get into livecd and reinstall it
[04:18] <NooBoontoo> jack, Nvidia's
[04:18] <svelte> I'm in it
[04:18] <svelte> looking at my grub partition right now
[04:18] <slie> D-punch
[04:18] <jack_> NooBoontoo: are you able to execute the nvidia config utility?
[04:19] <webcoder> ugh... i'm about to pull my last hair out.  postfix with dovecot and mysql... dovecot is working fine... postfix just keeps bouncing every email
[04:19] <ruan> svelte: the grub partition has to be accessible or else it wont boot.. i learned that the hard way
[04:19] <steff12321> ohsix:  you should apply to be a mod there, applications are closing soon
[04:19] <ohsix> steff12321: statistical methods can detect the maximum bandwidth you've seen from a given user on a given ip address or network; when it exceeds that after you have a really solid baseline by an order of magnitude, you can at least ask them to prove the upload speed of their line
[04:19] <svelte> ruan, what could have caused it to break so suddenly though?
[04:19] <svelte> I haven't changed any settings at all since my last reboot
[04:19] <steff12321> ohsix: i just look for radical jumps in BW usage of the tracker
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> NooBoontoo: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings     setup the display then click 'save to x config file'   should be ok
[04:19] <ruan> svelte: not sure
[04:19] <steff12321> ohsix:  then look at the new user's UL bw
[04:20] <ohsix> steff12321: by asking them to send you a file from that address, nothing else is provable; but you will identify real cheaters that way, they'll just have made a huge mistake
[04:20] <jack_> the grub partition? grub is installed in the mbr on the disk and then reads from /boot i believe.
[04:20] <steff12321> ohsix:  thats a pretty good method :)
[04:20] <NooBoontoo> ActionParnsip: Well, yeah, I always save the new configuration as root, but everytime i login is the same
[04:20] <svelte> right, meant boot sorry
[04:21] <ohsix> steff12321: science!
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> NooBoontoo: strange, does /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:21] <jack_> NooBoontoo: you are using the nvidia utility? those options should be set to your xorg file and pull up at boot time.
[04:21] <svelte> so how would I go about reinstalling grub?
[04:22] <svelte> and will I lose access to my xp partition?
[04:22] <jack_> svelte: im not too sure about grub2 but i think there are forum posts about it online
[04:22] <jack_> svelte: you shouldn't
[04:22] <jack_> you can probe it
[04:22] <jrgill> i should be able to work on this tv w/ some modelines in x via livecd right?
[04:22] <ruan> svelte: you could possibly google "reinstall grub"
[04:22] <jrgill> its just vga
[04:22] <sacarlson> svelte: you could try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/562593/
[04:22] <jack_> svelte: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling GRUB 2
[04:23] <jack_> svelte: follow the 'reinstalling grub from livecd'
[04:23] <frybye> try again: how to get the unsorted contacts on ubuntu one sorted into evoloution so as to be useable?
[04:23] <svelte> ruan, I really just wanted to make sure that there's no difference between the grub on 9.04 (which is the livecd) and 10.10
[04:23] <NooBoontoo> ActionParsnip,  I have like Xorg.log.old  thru Xorg.log5.5.old files and filesafe files and a Xorg.99.log file, Why do I have all of those?
[04:23] <[core]> svelte: update-grub2
[04:23] <jack_> svelte: there is a grub1 and a grub2 that was a recent switch. im not sure when the switch occured
[04:23] <costas> hello again, just fixed my Ubuntu studio amd64 sound, via oss, alsa driver doesn't seem to work with Delta 1010 -in case you were wondering...
[04:23] <ruan> svelte: it receives it from internet i think
[04:23] <jack_> NooBoontoo: they're rotated files
[04:24] <svelte> and I can do this from a livecd? just reinstall grub on /boot?
[04:24] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  What can i do then?
[04:25] <jack_> NooBoontoo: can you walk me thorugh the process you use to set your resolution?
[04:25] <sacarlson> svelte: I tested my one liner grub2 reinstall with virtualbox yestarday with: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[04:25] <costas> svelte, there's a tutorial about grub2, it's easy
[04:25] <jack_> svelte: there is a section called 'how to do this from livecd' just read it. follow the directions. its all there
[04:25] <svelte> 'kay, thanks guys
[04:26] <^Phantom2^> What is 'dang small linux" 's irc room?
[04:26] <faenor> ^Phantom2^: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:26] <jack_> svelte: if you're running 10.10 i would suggest downloading a 10.10 live cd, although it may not be neccessary
[04:26] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  sudo bash, nvidia-settings, (set it up) , save file,
[04:26] <[core]> svelte: i guess so. also try what sacarlson said it should work
[04:26] <jack_> NooBoontoo: one second. let me vnc into my box that uses nvidia drivers
[04:26] <^Phantom2^> faenor: hmm?
[04:26] <frybye> forget my ? - just noticed that here on this pc i can still search and find adds that i need even when they are not sorted.. did not work elsewhere for some reason .. have a nice day...
[04:26] <Graet|> faenor is a bot
[04:27] <Graet|> linux
[04:27] <faenor> Graet|: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:27] <jack_> NooBoontoo: try doing it this way
[04:27] <ruan> lol
[04:27] <ohsix> faenor: is that a script?
[04:27] <faenor> no
[04:27] <ohsix> linux
[04:27] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:27] <ohsix> haha
[04:27] <ohsix> linux
[04:27] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:27] <ruan> linux
[04:27] <faenor> ruan: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:27] <ohsix> linux
[04:27] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:27] <ruan> GNU/Linux
[04:27] <jack_> NooBoontoo: `sudo nvidia-setttings`, *set resolution*, click Save to my X config file. Click Apply.
[04:27] <costas> don't mess with the bots, they don't feed them well... 8-D
[04:27] <ohsix> faenor: what's GNU/Linux?
[04:28] <jack_> NooBoontoo: let me know if that sets your resolution correctly and we'll go forward from there
[04:28] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  Since  was using a Blender build that needed powerful code, I had to install Nvidia .run files, but I think that has been before the installation
[04:28] <jack_> NooBoontoo: i dont know what that means, but yes. the nvidia drivers are done through a script
[04:28] <costas> ohsix, you are messing with the bot? GNU/ Linux is the mother of all free OSes...
[04:28] <NooBoontoo> jack_ , well, yeah, that part works fine, but the problem is after the next login, where all is back to its messy state
[04:29] <ohsix> whats a linux gnu
[04:29] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:29] <Graet|> a gnu is a herd animal
[04:29] <costas> hahahahaha
[04:30] <jrgill> 10 KB/sec downloading the live cd are you kidding me?
[04:30] <costas> try reading the history of Debian GNU/Linux it rocks
[04:30] <Graet|> i have sometime in the distant past
[04:31] <shcherbak> If to use Linux in middle of sentence, does it make silly bot happy?
[04:31] <Graet|> no
[04:31] <costas> Ubuntu studio is not bad at all, I'm currently test-riding it, no serious problems, and fast updates
[04:31] <Graet|> capital L might do it tho
[04:31] <Graet|> Linux
[04:31] <Graet|> linux
[04:31] <faenor> Graet|: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:31] <shcherbak> If to use linux in middle of sentence, does it make silly bot happy?
[04:31] <faenor> shcherbak: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:31] <costas> alsa messed things up again so I'm using OSS for my pro soundcard
[04:31] <costas> !damn faenor
[04:32] <shcherbak> rww: What is sense of it?
[04:32] <Graet|> my brain isnt working today. when it restarts i'll try getting sound to work :(
[04:33] <Graet|> damn hospitals and the drugs they inject you with :(
[04:33] <costas> Graet|, I thought alsa would work for me but there's always another way, rtfm of the Ubuntu howtos
[04:33] <Graet|> yer, i been following a guide. but due to brain lag got lost
[04:34] <jack_> NooBoontoo: kk, did you do it the way i described and the resolution is set fine?
[04:34] <aroman> how can a manually change a string in an app that I have installed?
[04:34] <ruan> gnu is the licence i assume
[04:34] <ruan> or i fail
[04:34] <ohsix> i thought the gnu was a yak
[04:34] <jack_> GNU is GNU not Unix. :P
[04:34] <ohsix> the license is gpl and friends
[04:34] <sacarlson> faenor: do people that speak to you always say your first and last name each time they say hello  faenor beboper  or do they jast say hi fae what's up?
[04:34] <ruan> ah
[04:34] <NooBoontoo> Yes, I have try to merge the file with the old one, and create a new one, but, is the same
[04:34] <NooBoontoo> jack_ Yes, I have try to merge the file with the old one, and create a new one, but, is the same
[04:34] <ohsix> linux
[04:34] <aotianlong> GNU is Not Unix
[04:34] <jack_> ruan: GNU is the free software stuff that got the linux distros started up. linux is the kernel of the distros
[04:34] <ruan> jack_ ah ok
[04:34] <jack_> NooBoontoo: the old xorg.conf and the new one are the same?
[04:34] <jack_> ruan: if you're interested, you sould checkout 'revolution os' its on google videos.
[04:34] <ohsix> (fwiw i know what GNU and GNU/Linux is, it's just stupid to correct people, especially with a script)
[04:34] <jack_> ruan: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7707585592627775409#
[04:34] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  There are so many of those files I dont even know now...
[04:34] <jack_> NooBoontoo: it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:34] <Error404NotFound> I am looking for a really small ubuntu based distribution with no gui to install in a 16M flashdrive. Any suggestions?
[04:34] <jack_> 16mb??
[04:34] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  Yeah, there are like 10 of those files
[04:34] <jack_> NooBoontoo: what are their names?
[04:34] <ruan> is net install possible?
[04:34] <jack_> Error404NotFound: DSL is the smallest one i nkow and its 50mb
[04:34] <Error404NotFound> jack_: tiny core is 10M but not ubuntu based.
[04:34] <faenor> jack_: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:34] <aroman> how can a manually change a string in an app that I have installed?
[04:34] <jack_> Error404NotFound: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution
[04:34] <Graet|> i do a lot of forum reading/research/trial b4 asking for helps :)
[04:34] <costas> get some sleep, grab a mug of hot coffee and fix it man, it's all there
[04:35] <costas> forget about the forums, focus on the Ubuntu help
[04:35] <costas> #fora, sorry
[04:36] <costas> aroman, check it's config file
[04:36] <thangavel> hello guys...i got gc++ installed in my ubuntu by yesterday..i get the following errors..plz help me...http://paste.ubuntu.com/569018/
[04:36] <breadcrumb> hi
[04:36] <misla> #ubuntu -q $~a
[04:36] <Graet|> costas, no big hurry, i got 5 days to get it working right :)
[04:36] <breadcrumb> ?
[04:37] <thangavel>  hello guys...i got gc++ installed in my ubuntu by yesterday..i get the following errors..plz help me...http://paste.ubuntu.com/569018/
[04:38] <thangavel> the thing that is puzzling me here is that error: iostream.h: No such file or directory...plz somebody help me
[04:38] <milamber> thangavel: remove the .h from the include
[04:39] <jack_> faenor: ?
[04:39] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  Xorg.1log Xorg.1.log.old Xorg.2.log thru Xorg.5.log.old and a Xorg.99 and some Xorg.failsafe.log files
[04:39] <jack_> NooBoontoo: those look like log files. they're usually under /var/log
[04:39] <jack_> the xorg.conf file will be in /etc/X11
[04:39] <aotianlong> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[04:39] <NooBoontoo> jack_, Oh, let me check
[04:39] <ohsix> linux
[04:39] <aotianlong> should re configure the Xorg.conf
[04:39] <ruan> faenor should've had a delay of seconds per message coded, to prevent floods
[04:39] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9041618/Screenshot-2.png
[04:39] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:39] <jack_> NooBoontoo: put the contents of xorg.conf into pastebin.ubuntu.com
[04:39] <jack_> and gimmie the url
[04:39] <milamber> thangavel: and how did you install the compiler?
[04:39] <numexa> thangavel: try iostream without iostream.h
[04:39] <costas> thangavel, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656721 for C++ links
[04:40] <aroman> costas: where would I find that?
[04:40] <darkjedi> I have never heard of linux until last year. Do I need to keep windows on my computer?
[04:40] <faenor> darkjedi: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:41] <Graet|> darkjedi  no need but you can if you want - its called dualbooting :)
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> faenor: That's really not helpful.
[04:41] <costas> aroman, usually config files are located in your home folder after installation
 :now it works fine...
[04:41] <jrgill> does ubuntu on a usb stick actually install on it as opposed to the live cd?
[04:41] <costas> edit with caution and always backup to avoid reinstalling apps
 : thanks a lot
[04:42] <somethinginteres> My PS3 still has v2.60 firmware and I'm thinking of putting Ubuntu 10.10 on it.. has anyone done this? My main reason for doing it is to be able to watch varying types of media instead of just mp4 and divx.
[04:42] <costas> aroman, they are in the form of .(app name) with a dot in front...
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> oops
[04:42] <milamber> thangavel: np. also when you say "using namespace std" you don't have to put "std::" you can just say: cout << "hello" << endl;
[04:43] <costas> got to go to work people, will log in from there bb all -don't mess with da bots, behave
 : ya...u r right...while trying to solve that issue..i tried every possibility..that is y..
[04:44] <darkjedi> Does anyone use john
[04:44] <dsevigny> What is the default Java JRE on Ubuntu Server 10.10?
[04:44] <AbhijiT> !info java
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> dsevigny: Ubuntu Server doesn't have a JRE by default.
[04:45] <darkjedi> I have built a dictionary but I can't et it to work on my network
[04:45] <costas> !beer costas
[04:45] <milamber> thangavel: i don't know what tutorial you are using, but the .h headers in c++ are deprecated. if you are writing a new program for current compilers you should avoid them. you can google iostream vs iostream.h for lots more info.
[04:45] <dsevigny> Tonyyarusso I beg to differ unless it got installed with Tomcat, in which case which would the default JRE be?
[04:46] <NooBoontoo> jack_, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/0HmXaNcd
[04:46] <jack_> NooBoontoo: did you set the resolution? i dont see resolution set in here
[04:46] <ohsix> faenor: linux?
[04:46] <jack_> oh wait. 1440x900? is that the resolution you set?
[04:46] <jack_> NooBoontoo: isn't it supposed to be a 1680 x 1050 resolution
[04:46] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  here is the new file after setting up the resolution http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/TYRDiuDC
[04:46] <jack_> NooBoontoo: that still says 1440x900. is that correct?
[04:46] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  No, my monitor has a 1440x900 max resolution
[04:46] <jack_> NooBoontoo: what happens when you relog? what does it get set to?
[04:46] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:46] <slie> fu
[04:46] <NooBoontoo> jack_ Let me restart
[04:46] <jack_> NooBoontoo: just relog
[04:46] <NooBoontoo> How do I relog?
[04:46] <soreau> NooBoontoo: sys>prefs>log out
[04:46] <slie> how do i
[04:46] <soreau> NooBoontoo: Sys>Log Out user
[04:46] <soreau> slie: Did you need help with something?
[04:46] <linuxman410> mini itx is the way to go with ubuntu
[04:46] <jack_> ^nice
[04:47] <slie> faenor, sweet interactive wiki
[04:47] <slie> can i boot just a kernel from grub
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> dsevigny: Tomcat would do it.  Looks like openjdk-6-jre-headless has the highest priority within libtomcat6-java's dependencies.
[04:47] <mufasis> i just installed ubuntu server 10.04 to my hp proliant dl320 using fakeraid with raid 1, i am in the cli as my regular user, how can i tell if the raid is setup correctly?
[04:48] <dsevigny> dang.... Will it muss up if I replace it with the Sun JRE?
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> faenor: Again, it's not helpful for you to "correct" people for saying Linux.
[04:48] <thangavel> hello
[04:48] <jack_> mufasis: cat /proc/mdstat
[04:48] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  My screen resolution is in AUTO when i restart
[04:49] <jack_> NooBoontoo: in the nvidia settings it's auto?
 : i've beeen using TC compiler..
[04:49] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  yes
[04:49] <ohsix> how do i shot a linux
[04:49] <faenor> ohsix: GNU/Linux, not linux
[04:49] <jack_> NooBoontoo: what about the native display settings? does that just say 'use nvidia'?
[04:49] <aroman> where are the multilingual strings for apps stored in ubuntu? (like on an ubuntu box)?
[04:49] <jack_> ohsix: idunno lol
[04:49] <milamber> thangavel: TC?
[04:49] <jack_> the linux
[04:50] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  I dont know about the native display settings, I cant find that option in nvidia-settings
[04:51] <jack_> NooBoontoo: its not in the nvidia-settings. its under the 'system > admin> or 'system > prefs' menu
[04:51] <darkjedi> what does that red line mean
 : Turbo Borland compiler in windows..this is the one usually suggested for beginners to c/c++..has got a good GUI..but has also gaot a lot of drawbacks
[04:51] <jack_> darkjedi: where you lost focus of the chat?
[04:52] <jack_> nope. i have no idea
[04:52] <sacarlson> Error404NotFound: well I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  that has a 12mb installer,  so that leaves you 4 meg to play with
 : may i ask u one thing??
[04:52] <milamber> thangavel: shoot
[04:52] <Error404NotFound> sacarlson: thanks :)
[04:52] <researcher1> is it possible to create a list of user-name and password in excel sheet & then import it to access the Ubuntu operating system?
[04:53] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  MESSAGE: It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[04:53] <jack_> NooBoontoo: im looking at an xorg file. just one sec
 : from ur answers it seems that u've got a sound knowledge in c++...could u post some very difficult debugging/reasoning questions  for me
 : in pastebin
[04:54] <tripps> I like the power saving features of ubuntu and laptop mode tools for my laptop. However, one annoyance is that when my display dims after a period of non-use, and I begin using it again, it doesn't go back to the brightness it was before it dimmed. I have to manually brighten it each time. Any ideas how to fix?
[04:55] <milamber> thangavel: i know the *basics* the best way to really learn is get involved in a project. find something that interests you and see if the devs are looking for help. if they are they will give you a place to start. and fwiw i don't think borland has updated any of their stuff in years. depending on which os you want to develop for you may want to look into an alternative.
[04:55] <darkjedi> Im new to all of this. I have problems with man man. I cant understand what to do. Are there any tutorials for the clueless
[04:56] <tripps> it brightens a little bit, but not back to the level I set it to before
[04:56] <jack_> NooBoontoo:     Option         "metamodes" "1440x900 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
[04:56] <jack_> NooBoontoo: MY box has:     Option         "metamodes" "1360x768 +0+0"
[04:56] <jack_> NooBoontoo: try removing that junk after the first ;
[04:56] <jack_> save and relog
[04:56] <icedtea> researcher1: what do you mean by import? setup a list of users with specified passwords?
[04:56] <jack_> researcher1: you could use a script to do that ify ou save as a csv file
[04:56] <ruan> i need to mount my ntfs drive, but it wont let me
[04:56] <jack_> researcher1: i think that 'excel' files are all encrypted
[04:56] <jack_> ruan: what happens when you try to mount it?
 : k..fine...thanks for ur concern & valuable time...
[04:56] <NooBoontoo> the nvidia-autoselect +00+?
[04:56] <ruan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569024/
[04:56] <jack_> NooBoontoo: yes. in your xorg.conf. line 59 of hte pastebin you sent me
[04:56] <jack_> ruan: try with the '-v' flag
[04:56] <ruan> i can't access it, and nothing does that at startup
[04:56] <ruan> ok i'll try -v
[04:56] <jack_> ruan: also, check that is not alreaqdy mounted by typing 'mount -l'
[04:56] <icedtea> researcher1: save as a csv file, there might be a way to read them with an openoffice library, but that would just make it more complicated
[04:57] <AbhijiT> hi
[04:57] <ruan> -v does nothing
[04:57] <ruan> you mean -V?
[04:57] <jack_> ruan: it sould giv eyou mroe verbose output
[04:57] <AbhijiT> there was a file in ~/Example folder in which they have given 'case studies' of ubuntu. but i dont have that file. is it not in lucid? where it gone?any one can help? or give me your copy?
[04:57] <eross> just got a new monitor, how do i change the refresh rate? it's at 60hz atm
[04:58] <ruan> it just says mount from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)
[04:58] <jack_> researcher1: you can use awk to go through the csv and add them.
[04:58] <_NaN_> I saw that in Win7 you can tile the windows like a charm, what about ubuntu, how it is posible?
[04:58] <jack_> i blew away my ~/examples file. is it not created under new users?
[04:58] <rww> _NaN_: KDE can do it. GNOME's Compiz has the ability to do it, but it's a pain to set up properly.
[04:59] <rww> s/'s /\//
[04:59] <ruan> i need to mount my ntfs drive >_>
[04:59] <jack_> _NaN_: you can tyr this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470160&highlight=tile+windows
[04:59] <NooBoontoo> Restarting...
[04:59] <_NaN_> rww: i'm ussing gnome
[04:59] <_NaN_> jack_: i'll see it, thanks!
[04:59] <ohsix> _NaN_: press win+w, by default it is bound to do it
[04:59] <ruan> other software never uses that drive
[04:59] <jack_> rww: that was the most advanced sed i've ever seen in irc :P
[04:59] <AbhijiT> there was a file in ~/Example folder in which they have given 'case studies' of ubuntu. but i dont have that file. is it not in lucid? where it gone?any one can help? or give me your copy?
[04:59] <jack_> i blew away my ~/examples file. is it not created under new users?
[04:59] <ohsix> _NaN_: you should only need special instructions if you want to change the bind to another key or to put it on a hot corner or something
[05:00] <_NaN_> ohsix: not that kind of tile, i need work in 2 windows at the same time
[05:00] <ruan> i have examples but it has only 2 mp3s
[05:00] <qwerty1> hello
[05:00] <jo-erlend2> I'm resyncing my software raid5 and the disks are working hard. However, I can't see that in iotop. Why?
[05:00] <ohsix> _NaN_: ah
[05:00] <rww> _NaN_: install CCSM and play around. I think the relevant plugin is called Grid or something
[05:00] <rww> !ccsm
[05:00] <ohsix> nanase: well, out one on the side and hold shift :D
[05:00] <ohsix> _NaN_: rather
[05:00] <rww> but yeah, I'm using KWin to get Windows-style tiling on linux, so...
[05:00] <faenor> rww: GNU/Linux, not linux
[05:00] <ruan> does examples contain 2 mp3s?
[05:01] <ruan> lol
[05:01] <jack_> rww++
[05:01] <qwerty1> does ubuntu have a page to see if certain laptops are compatible?
[05:01] <_NaN_> rww: thanks dude
[05:01] <icedtea> hahaha
[05:01] <gaurav_help> how i change my default directory in ternimal
[05:01] <jack_> gaurav_help: default directory?
[05:01] <ouyes> qwerty1, most laptops are compatible
[05:01] <jack_> gaurav_help: type 'cd /a/diff/directory' when you open it
[05:01] <jo-erlend2> rww: there is something called Devilspie that works on many different desktop environments and provides very high level of control. It does require some reading though.
[05:02] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/change-default-bash-directory-in-gnome-terminal-288622/
[05:02] <ohsix> qwerty1: theres no central registry unfortunately; not even for devices that currently have trouble in said machines
[05:02] <qwerty1> ouyes...ive read some old threads from last year about this laptop and some ppl had issues but wasnt sure if those were resolved by now
[05:02] <ruan> hehe nevermind
[05:02] <gaurav_help> rite now it always open with /home/username but i always want it to open in /home/username/desktop/foldername
[05:02] <ruan> sdb swapped with sda
[05:02] <jack_> qwerty1: fire up the livecd and see how it works
[05:02] <Graet|> * rww has kicked faenor from #ubuntu ( )  << nice work :)
[05:02] <ruan> when i changed hardware
[05:03] <jack_> ruan: drive names are never guarenteed to be persistant :O
[05:03] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, see the link i have given
[05:03] <qwerty1> livecd wont install is that correct?
[05:03] <jack_> if you choose 'try ubuntu'
[05:03] <jack_> it wont install
[05:03] <jack_> you could also use wubi and install it from windows
[05:03] <ruan> jack_: i thought it would be static when i removed just a cd drive
[05:03] <icedtea> qwerty1: try http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[05:03] <ruan> livecd installs upon request
[05:03] <NooBoontoo> jack_,  nope, I didnt worked, the resolution is now in 1024x768
[05:04] <ruan> sudo fdisk -l is awesome :D
[05:04] <qwerty1> sweet...thanks icedtea
[05:04] <ohsix> ruan: udisks --dump ftw
[05:04] <slie> rm -rf /
[05:04] <qwerty1> thank you everyone for your help
[05:04] <icedtea> your welcome!
[05:04] <ouyes> qwerty1, dont warry,there are over 400,000 users in the ubuntu form, a lot of hacers will try to help you make ubuntu run on your pc
[05:04] <AbhijiT> there was a file in ~/Example folder in which they have given 'case studies' of ubuntu. but i dont have that file. is it not in lucid? where it gone?any one can help? or give me your copy?
[05:04] <AbhijiT> helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[05:04] <icedtea> come by for a beer or wine later :)
[05:04] <ohsix> my welcome :D
[05:04] <AbhijiT> anyone using karmic ?
[05:05] <rww> slie: Don't give malicious commands in here.
[05:05] <jack_> i blew away my ~/examples file. is it not created under new users
[05:05] <ruan> abhijiT: i have an examples folder but it has only 2 mp3s
[05:05] <silverlightning> I am bhijit
[05:05] <nowe> nope, everyone's switched to maverick now
[05:05] <AbhijiT> ruan, thats not i want
[05:05] <slie> rww, okay
[05:05] <qwerty1> lol...im a android phone rooter but this is totally different
[05:05]  * AbhijiT kicks silverlightning (Do not impersonate me! )
[05:05] <jack_> qwerty1: :)
[05:05] <ruan> lol
[05:06] <silverlightning> what ? lol
[05:06] <ohsix> jack_ / AbhijiT: initial user directory content is in /etc/skel, IF the example files are installed anymore, i don't think they are
[05:06] <AbhijiT> ohsix, what you are talking about?
[05:06] <ohsix> the "Example" folder
[05:06] <ruan> lol he meant to say "i am using karmic, abhijit"
[05:06] <AbhijiT> ruan,  :D okay! lol
[05:06] <AbhijiT> silverlightning, hey ok. so do you have that case study document in there? please share it
[05:07] <qwerty1> well..this laptop didnt make the list...ill give livecd a shot and see what happens
[05:07] <AbhijiT> ohsix, i want that file in which they have given ubuntu case studies. do you have it?
[05:07] <gaurav_help> Abhijit: the link u gave me i go through it but ... i don't find the bashrc file in /etc
[05:07] <silverlightning> hmm...
[05:07] <ohsix> AbhijiT: try dpkg -L example-content
[05:07] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, just search that file using search for file in places menu
[05:08] <AbhijiT> ohsix, what does that do?
[05:08] <ohsix> AbhijiT: i don't see it there anymore
[05:08] <ohsix> AbhijiT: list the files in the package
[05:08] <AbhijiT> ohsix, oh ok
[05:09] <AbhijiT> silverlightning, ??
[05:09] <IdleOne> linux test!
[05:09] <AbhijiT> O_o
[05:09] <IdleOne> I passed
[05:09] <jack_> IdleOne: fail!
[05:10] <gaurav_help> AbhijiT: that link what u send me is not helping me
[05:10] <gaurav_help> is there any other way
[05:10] <nowe> p rude
[05:10] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, nothing wrong in that document. you find fhat bash file in your computer using search file utility. its you who is not finding the file not that document
[05:12] <gaurav_help> No AbhijiT : i find tat file but name is diff bash.bashrc ... and where i have 2 put tat line
[05:12] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, hmm no thats not the file. i think that doc is outdated
[05:13] <ruan> maybe google will help
[05:13] <ruan> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=example-content
[05:14] <ruan> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/all/example-content/filelist
[05:15] <Oceans80> When I am trying to access shared folders over a network, in GNOME, I go to Places > Network > Computer I want to connect to, it asks for user name, password, and a domain (default is WORKGROUP), how do i figure out what to put in the Domain section?
[05:15] <milamber> guarav_help: the tutorial should still work. ~/.bashrc will have to be created ~ means home directory so you have to create a .bashrc in your home directory for it to only take affect for one user.
[05:15] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, try in #bash
[05:16] <sqwertle> I'm trying to put a mail server online using a domain name, have installed postfix on my server as well as courier and mysql. I'm having quite a bit of trouble getting everything configured. I have tried using dovecat and followed a few tutorials for configuration that I've found on google, but have given up on dovecat and switched to courier. I have just finished my second courier configuration tutorial and haven't managed to gain
[05:16] <sqwertle> access to it. Could anyone help me with this or point me in the right direction? I can give post whatever logs are needed, but I'm not sure what's wrong in order to just say it's somewhere in ***.conf
[05:16] <gaurav_help> No AbhijiT ... not found
[05:16] <expecto> hi
[05:16] <AbhijiT> ??
[05:16] <ruan>  /join #bash
[05:17] <AbhijiT> gaurav_help, join the channel #bash by typing /j #bash and ask there
[05:17] <silverlightning> why do they demand registration and login in the general linux room?
[05:18] <Oceans80> anaged to gain
 access to it. Could anyone help me with this
[05:18] <ohsix> silverlightning: spam bots generally don't register
[05:18] <expecto> how can in install something in a folder i unzipped
[05:18] <expecto> whats the command to install whats in that folder
[05:18] <expecto> ?
[05:18] <Oceans80> When I am trying to access shared folders over a network, in GNOME, I go to Places > Network > Computer I want to connect to, it asks for user name, password, and a domain (default is WORKGROUP), how do i figure out what to put in the Domain section?
[05:19] <milamber> expecto: it depends on what language what you want to install is written in. the most common sequence is ./configure, make, sudo make install
[05:19] <expecto> how do i know the language?
[05:19] <silverlightning> this is too daft for a saturday morning
[05:20] <sqwertle> oceans80: why did you quote me?
[05:20] <ruan> silverlightning:lol
[05:20] <Oceans80> accident
[05:20] <sqwertle> ah
[05:20] <milamber> expecto: what are you trying to install? there is also usually a document called README and/or INSTALL.
[05:20] <silverlightning> where do I register then
[05:20] <silverlightning> ?
[05:21] <rww> shcherbak: "What is sense of it?" --> I'm sorry, I don't know what you meant.
[05:21] <gaurav_help> Abhijit is there any way when i create a new profile in ternimal and there i set tat path
[05:21] <silverlightning> I for the linux stuff
[05:21] <ruan>  /msg NickServ identify [pass]
[05:21] <rww> !register | silverlightning
[05:21] <ruan> i believe
[05:21] <expecto> readme says: to install the game run fold it from this directory
[05:21] <ruan> ^
[05:21] <poss> good gentlefolk I have yet another conundrum, may i pray thy indulgence once more?
[05:21] <expecto> but i click ''fold it'' and nothing happens
[05:21] <silverlightning> rww, don't get exited
[05:21] <Oceans80> When I am trying to access shared folders over a network, in GNOME, I go to Places > Network > Computer I want to connect to, it asks for user name, password, and a domain (default is WORKGROUP), how do i figure out what to put in the Domain section?
[05:21] <rww> silverlightning: I'm not. I was telling the channel bot to answer your question ;P
[05:21] <silverlightning> good :- )
[05:22] <silverlightning> lol
[05:22] <silverlightning> I seel
[05:22] <jrgill> ok so i clicked try ubuntu and its still busy...
[05:22] <Graet|> Oceans80, i look at one of the other machines on the network and see. or if its my network i know what its called :)
[05:22] <silverlightning> I am a bit slow, it's not half past six yet here
[05:22] <milamber> expecto: what game?
[05:22] <costas> back...
[05:22] <silverlightning> rww, clever command though
[05:23] <poss> I am in the middle of an install, untuntu 10.04 along side an existing 9.10,  however the installation has stalled during "resizing the partition" at 50%
[05:23] <costas> back to debian command reference for me to remember the magic..
[05:23] <ruan> thats dangerous
[05:23] <Tristantio> anyone ever set up wineq2 on wine ?
[05:23] <poss> i cant move the mouse and there is no indication of progress, it has been this way for the best part of an hour
[05:24] <jrgill> do i need a special option when booting live cd on a sata drive?  im using a laptop.  the live cd is hanging at "try ubuntu."
[05:24] <NicholasRoge> sqwertle
[05:24] <costas> not me, I use wine rarely -prefer Jack daniels 8-D
[05:24] <Tristantio> lol
[05:24] <poss> so, do i leave it frozen and hope it unfreezes itself eventually, or do i restart and risk wiping everything on the drive already
[05:24] <expecto> hello?
[05:24] <Tristantio> hi expecto
[05:24] <costas> poss you are installing Ubuntu?
[05:24] <expecto> what can i do
[05:25] <expecto> FOLD IT
[05:25] <poss> yep
[05:25] <expecto> is the game
[05:25] <Tristantio> crap forgot to run screen before irssi, brb
[05:25] <poss> installing 10.04 along an existing 9.10 build
[05:25] <expecto> http://fold.it/portal/
[05:25] <costas> irssi is fine but xchat is better
[05:25] <aplund> I have an Intel 4965AG wireless card and it seems that the iwlagn module is not working anymore for suspend resume from a recent update.  Does anyone have any more information about this? (I have 10.10)
[05:25] <poss> along side*
[05:25] <expecto> thats the GAME
[05:25] <ruan> im on chatzilla
[05:25] <jrgill> can someone help me?  i click try ubuntu and i cant even try the thing.
[05:25] <expecto> right side is linux download link :)
[05:26] <milamber> expecto: downloading now
[05:26] <Tristantio> ok back
[05:26] <costas> jrgill, please rtfm
[05:26] <ruan> jrgill: what happens?
[05:26] <rww> !rtfm
[05:27] <Pilotgeek> hey guize whatz up???? lolz
[05:27] <jrgill> ruan: the cursor turns busy and it hangs.  actually i just clicked the x on the wizard and made it to the desktop.
[05:27] <costas> Pilotgeek, it seems people nowadays need to learn how to read... 8-(
[05:27] <jrgill> looks nice since i last tried it: version 5.04 :P
[05:28] <poss> expecto: have you tried asking on the fold it forums?
[05:28] <IdleOne> costas: if you don't feel like helping that is fine. Please don't be rude and tell people to rtfm.
[05:28] <costas> ok reading the friendly manual was what I meant 8-D
[05:29] <IdleOne> costas: had you rftm for #ubuntu you would know we don't allow that acronym.
[05:29] <IdleOne> !guidelines > costas
[05:29] <costas> ok, will do
[05:30]  * jrgill rolls eyes
[05:30]  * rww rolls eyes also
[05:30] <poss> Anyone? Installing ubuntu and it has frozen during partition, what do I do? Will rebooting and trying again jeapodize the existing data?
[05:30] <expecto> thanks milamber
[05:31] <ohsix> poss: there are logs in /tmp and /var from the installer that should say more about what step its stuck on
[05:31] <ruan> any hard drive operations that freeze create danger
[05:32] <costas> poss, I suggest formatting partitions that will be used for Ubuntu...
[05:33] <p0ss> damn connection droppin out
[05:33] <silverlightning> how do you go about registering?
[05:34] <rww> silverlightning: /join #freenode and ask there.
[05:34] <silverlightning> thanks
[05:34] <milamber> expecto: are you using the command line?
[05:34] <silverlightning> irc is really cumbersome
[05:34] <jrgill> nice how they included proprietary drivers as well
[05:34] <silverlightning> worse than word perfect and the old DOS window for beginners
[05:35]  * p0ss asks again, if the ubuntu install freezes during partitioning, will restarting jeapodize existing data?
[05:35] <Tristantio> ok guys anyone familiar enough with wine to answer this please do so.  I want to run 2 different apps each in their own virtual desktop instead of sharing.
[05:35] <Tristantio> Is such a thing possible?
[05:35] <shcherbak> p0ss: yes
[05:36] <shcherbak> p0ss: Start reading about datarecovery
[05:36] <ohsix> Tristantio: things in different prefixes should be separate
[05:36] <p0ss> shcerbak, it has been frozen at %50 for over an hour, should i give it longer?
[05:36] <costas> Tristantio, 2 instances of wine perhaps?
[05:36] <ohsix> but you can also run explorer more than once, which is really what the virtual desktop stuff is
[05:36] <Tristantio> ohsix, sorry for the noob question but what do you mean by prefixes?
[05:36] <Meway> p0ss, I ruined a 70gb hardrive like that
[05:37] <nmvictor> I have found a liking in fortran programming language, especially fortrann 2003, anyone here programming in fortran to tell me how I can do that in ubuntu? I mean the tools, IDEs or anything I would find usefull
[05:37] <Tristantio> Basically, i have a copy of a game I want to run 2 clients for via wine. Currently both copies run in the same virtual desktop
[05:37] <Tristantio> which cauess one of the copies to mess up
[05:37] <shcherbak> p0ss: resizeing partition takes time, circe 1Mb of data per few minutes.
[05:37] <Tristantio> i want them to not know each other are running
[05:37] <costas> p0ss, do a format... bad blocks will be fixed, start negotiating with your hard disk merchant for a bargain
[05:37] <sinistrad> !fortran
[05:38] <abhinav_singh> how to check if my processor is 32 bit 0r 64 bit
[05:38] <p0ss> oh crap, i did not realise that was a potential, i would never have upgraded if i had known how much trouble it is
[05:38] <nmvictor> abhinav_singh, cat /proc/cpu.info
[05:38] <milamber> Tristantio: what do you mean by virtual desktop? i don't think i am understanding the question.
[05:38] <shcherbak> p0ss: is CapsLock working? (means keaboard at all)
[05:39] <p0ss> so resizing a 250gb drive could take days?
[05:39] <costas> p0ss, there's nothing wrong with Ubuntu upgrades, disk drives do get damaged eventually
[05:39] <jiohdi> p0ss, not likely
[05:39] <shcherbak> p0ss: rather hours
[05:39] <ruan> i resized an 80gb and it took 3 mins
[05:39] <p0ss> no idea..  I just hit reset
[05:39] <nmvictor> abhinav_singh, run that command I guess, Im told their is a flag to indicate 64 bit , if the flag s missing on that output, its probably a 32 bit, You computer manual might also help
[05:40] <icedtea> p0ss: if there's lots of free space and resizing the drive could only take 15 minutes or so
[05:40] <abhinav_singh> nmvictor I am not getting the flag..
[05:40] <Starminn> abhinav_singh: "uname -a" it'll be right before "GNU/Linux" -- if it says something about AMD64 then it's 64-bit.
[05:40] <pinnacle> !sex
[05:40] <p0ss> it had been running fine for twelve months, i run an upgrade and it bricks one harddrive, then i download a livedisk and try and partition the remaining drive and it bricks it too
[05:40] <jrgill> sound, bluetooth, wi-fi, nice crisp display.  such great support on the live cd.  :)
[05:40] <pinnacle> !penis
[05:40] <shcherbak> p0ss: Do you have any control on machine besides power button?
[05:40] <Starminn> abhinav_singh: Alternatively if it says "i686" i586 i396 or whatever then it's not 64-bit (regardless of if it's intel or not)
[05:41] <puppy> how to find the partition where I installed Ubuntu
[05:41] <jrgill> now if i could my external monitor working  :S
[05:41] <milamber> abhinav_singh: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:41] <p0ss> there was a lot of free space, but it had taken at least an hour
[05:41] <p0ss> nope
[05:41] <Tristantio> abhinav_singh, can't you just do the following command lshw
[05:41] <Tristantio> and look under cpu
[05:41] <Tristantio> the "width" is how many bit it is
[05:41] <shcherbak> !data recovery ! p0ss
[05:42] <shcherbak> !datarecovery ! p0ss
[05:42] <n2diy_> How can I set the backronud color of my panels?
[05:42] <shcherbak> !datarecovery | p0ss
[05:42] <Starminn> n2dly_: Right-click the panel, hit "properties" then go to "Background"
[05:42] <jiohdi> n2diy preferences appearance customize
[05:42] <costas> abhinav_singh, on a terminal type "uname -a"
[05:42] <shcherbak> sorry, need to upgrade myself
[05:42] <puppy> how to find the partition where I installed Ubuntu
[05:42] <abhinav_singh> Tristantio it is saying width is 32 bit
[05:42] <Tristantio> uname -a will show what bit the distro is
[05:42] <Tristantio> that you are running
[05:42] <Tristantio> but you can have 64 bit proc and run 32 bit distro
[05:43] <Tristantio> if your width is 32bit thats what your processor is
[05:43] <Tristantio> you can see more info about it do
[05:43] <p0ss> this time it froze at trying to contact the time server
[05:43] <Tristantio> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:43] <Starminn> As I said before: abhinav_singh: "uname -a" it'll be right before "GNU/Linux" -- if it says something about AMD64 then it's 64-bit.
[05:43] <Tristantio> Starminn you like earthbound? :)
[05:43] <jiohdi> p0ss hardware issue?
[05:43] <p0ss> I'm getting the feeling i have just completely and utterly bricked my uncle's work computer by trying to upgrade :(
[05:43] <costas> Tristantio, peeps with 64bit cpus should use 64bit distros...
[05:43] <Starminn> Tristantio: Earthbound?
[05:43] <shcherbak> p0ss: This one is obligatory reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[05:43] <milamber> expecto: still there?
[05:44] <expecto> im sorry
[05:44] <expecto> yes
[05:44] <Tristantio> Starmen are people in it, wasn't sure if your name was a take on it
[05:44] <expecto> im here
[05:44] <milamber> expecto: are you using the command line?
[05:44] <Tristantio> also yea 64 should use 64 distro but sometimes people miss it
[05:44] <puppy> tristantio: pls help me  to find out the partition where I installed Ubuntu
[05:44] <Tristantio> and changing distro from 32 to 64 is a huge pain in the arse
[05:44] <costas> p0ss, select expert install and format the partitions that will house the upgrade...
[05:44] <expecto> i was afk
[05:44] <expecto> which command line?
[05:44] <expecto> :/
[05:44] <Tristantio> puppy you can use the "locate" command to find lots of things quickly if you know what are looking ofr
[05:44] <milamber> expecto: hokay, let's take it from the top. you downloaded the file. did you extract it?
[05:44] <ruan> command line = terminal
[05:45] <Starminn> Tristantio: Nope. A few other places I see similar names to this one, including in a book I'm reading. To be honest I don't know where the name came from as I didn't come up with it. Long story short, a friend gave me his Runescape account a long time and I've used the same name since.
[05:45] <expecto> yes
[05:45] <poss_> connection dropped out again, sorry
[05:45] <Tristantio> @Starminn - ahh gotcha
[05:45] <expecto> now i go to tray?
[05:45] <puppy> tristantio: ok thanks
[05:45] <Tristantio> np
[05:45] <expecto> terminal*
[05:45] <costas> Tristantio, you are correct and that's why I suggest the live CDs and clean installing on major upgrades of linu
[05:45] <milamber> expecto: yes.
[05:45] <expecto> and i type........
[05:45] <pinnacle> ?
[05:45] <pinnacle> ok
[05:45] <pinnacle> ty
[05:45] <milamber> expecto: then change to the directory where the files are extracted
[05:46] <milamber> expecto: the ./Foldit
[05:46] <milamber> then*
[05:46] <expecto> i did
[05:46] <Tristantio> anyone know how to scroll up in irssi ? I am too lazy to read my manual :)
[05:46] <n2diy_> Starminn, jiohdi, am in Xubuntu, and those options aren't available to me. :/
[05:47] <pinnacle> Everyone if you want to see the lastest screenshots of Ubuntu 11.00 go here !!! http://goo.gl/C7e8
[05:47] <claude2> Tristantio: google.com
[05:47] <axjota> can any hel me w ubuntu server virtual in vmware or VB !!!!
[05:47] <Starminn> n2diy_: Have you tried in #xubuntu -- the Xubuntu support channel?
[05:47] <axjota> can any hel me w ubuntu server virtual in vmware or VB !!!!
[05:47] <milamber> expecto: you typed "./Foldit" (without quotes, with ./ and case sensitive) (in the extracted folder)?
[05:47] <bazhang> pinnacle,don't paste that here
[05:47] <raido> Tristantio: PgIp
[05:47] <Tristantio> axjota what help do you need
[05:48] <poss_> omg, my uncle is going to kill me...  all that business data, lost.. because of ubuntu.  you can say it was a hardware fault, but he is not going to believe it, this computer ran fine for years until i tried to upgrade ubuntu..
[05:48] <raido> Tristantio: PgUp
[05:48] <n2diy_> Starminn, yes, they are all napping.
[05:48] <poss_> bad juju, im freaking out here :(
[05:48] <expecto> yes
[05:48] <ruan> poss_: if the hard drive is still accessible, you can attempt data recovery
[05:48] <expecto> milamber
[05:48] <Cavisty^gerber> hey whats best site to stream movies
[05:48] <expecto> now?
[05:48] <Graet|> poss are you installing alongside or upgradeing?
[05:48] <Tristantio> poss_ I was screwed badly when I went from ubuntu 10.04 32 bit to 10.10 64 bit because they changed their installer
[05:48] <expecto> i recognized the directory, yup
[05:48] <shcherbak> poss_: This one is obligatory reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[05:48] <expecto> it*
[05:48] <Tristantio> raido you rock ty :)
[05:49] <axjota> can any hel me w ubuntu server virtual in vmware or VB !!!!
[05:49] <Tristantio> 10.04 gave installer option to use remaining partition space, 10.10 change to overwrite entire drive
[05:49] <shcherbak> poss_: make sure to have liveCD to test system and hard drive
[05:49] <Graet|> if you are installing alongside try without cd and see if you can boot into old install
[05:49] <axjota> can any hel me w ubuntu server virtual in vmware or VB !!!!
[05:49] <Starminn> n2diy_: Alright, gimme a sec while I try to find something for you.
[05:49] <ruan> axjota: what is the question?
[05:49] <poss_> Graet: i tried upgrading first, but that bricked one of his harddrives, so then i tried installing alongside and it bricked his other drive.. now there is nothing left
[05:49] <Tristantio> axjota to install it in VB just download the iso you want and then follow the VB wizard
[05:49] <milamber> expecto: can you pastebin the command and output?
[05:49] <n2diy_> Starminn, ok, thanks.
[05:50] <ravn> hi folks, I just bought a new computer with hdmi-interface and nvida ion graphics, installed ubuntu 10.10, but Now I can't get out any sound from the hdmi-port. The hdmi interface is chosable in the sound preference and dmesg says it is recognized, but I got no sound. Any ideas?
[05:50] <Tristantio> poss_ run live cd and just change directory to your hard drives to grab your data
[05:50] <expecto> mau@mau-ER874AA-ABM-M7350LA:~$ ./Foldit
[05:50] <expecto> bash: ./Foldit: es un directorio
[05:50] <expecto> mau@mau-ER874AA-ABM-M7350LA:~$
[05:50] <poss_> thats what im trying to do now, but its spitting errors at me
[05:50] <expecto> its a directory: es un directorio
[05:51] <milamber> expecto: did you extract the files to a folder called foldit?
[05:51] <milamber> expecto: because that indicates that you are in your home directory
[05:51] <expecto> it extracted itself to a folder called Foldit, yes
[05:51] <milamber> expecto: ok, then do: cd Foldit
[05:51] <milamber> expecto: then ./Foldit
[05:51] <Starminn> n2diy_: This is for version 9.10 but it may still work. Not that old so it's worth a shot. http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9148876
[05:52] <expecto> mau@mau-ER874AA-ABM-M7350LA:~$ cd Foldit
[05:52] <expecto> mau@mau-ER874AA-ABM-M7350LA:~/Foldit$
[05:52] <Abinadi> ok, before anyone !vbox - es me I'm only asking in here because there isn't anyone at home over there.  I have a Maverick Host OS and am using VirtualBox with a guest OS of Windows Vista 64 bit Ultimate and I can't seem to get
[05:52] <expecto> again?
[05:52] <Abinadi> ack
[05:52] <n2diy_> Starminn, ok, thanks.
[05:52] <milamber> expecto: now you are in the directory that the files are extracted to. ./Foldit will run the program
[05:52] <Starminn> n2diy_: Form all of the articles I've read though in the last few minutes most of them mentioned making your own image and linking it by hand in the code for the panel. Sorry it couldn't be easier. Good luck. Ask if you need anything else. :)
[05:52] <expecto> mau@mau-ER874AA-ABM-M7350LA:~/Foldit$ ./Foldit
[05:52] <expecto> Foldit Error: The game has previously not started up correctly.
[05:52] <expecto> If this problem persists, please install the latest version.
[05:52] <Abinadi> ok, before anyone !vbox - es me I'm only asking in here because there isn't anyone at home over there.  I have a Maverick Host OS and am using VirtualBox with a guest OS of Windows Vista 64 bit Ultimate and I can't seem to get Windows to recognize the sound card.  Any pointers?
[05:52] <expecto> Foldit Error: Could not load library: libglut.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[05:52] <expecto> mau@mau-ER874AA-ABM-M7350LA:~/Foldit$
[05:52] <FloodBot2> expecto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <poss_> ok im on the live cd, but neither of the existig hard drives show up at all
[05:53] <canthus13> Unit1931: Now, alt-2 will take you back to the other channel.
[05:53] <overclucker> Abinadi: did yo uinstall guest additions?
[05:53] <canthus13> Unit1931: Or whatever the channel is.
[05:53] <jrgill> ok how do i get out of gnome on live cd?  ctrl alt backspace isnt working.
[05:53] <Abinadi> overclucker, yes, it's installed
[05:53] <poss_> they are just completely gone, and so is the 1td external drive i had plugged in
[05:53] <Chikokishi> When i sign onto the user without admin power my sound works and internet doesnt. when i sign into admin the internet works and the sound doesnt.  Help.
[05:53] <poss_> ubuntu just ate three hard drives
[05:53] <poss_> this is insane
[05:54] <Unit1931> canthus13: Not doing it... I'm lost...
[05:54] <ohsix> ubuntu didn't do it :] partman did
[05:54] <ruan> maybe its just unable to view them
[05:54] <canthus13> Unit1931: hit alt-2
[05:54] <canthus13> Unit1931: or alt-leftarrow
[05:54] <milamber> expecto: pastebin the output of: ls -al
[05:55] <Starminn> poss_: "None of the hard drvies are showing up at all" what are you doing to try to get them to show?
[05:55] <abhinav_singh> i am getting an attached screen by running screen -ls ...how do I resume that screen?
[05:55] <poss_> Starmin: I am just trying to browse to them using nautilus, but they arent there
[05:55] <Chikokishi> When i sign onto the user without admin power my sound works and internet doesnt. when i sign into admin the internet works and the sound doesnt.  Help.
[05:55] <Starminn> poss_: Because you have to mount them first.
[05:55] <expecto> milamber, here is all which ive introduce in the command since the start:
[05:55] <expecto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569038/
[05:56] <Starminn> poss_: You could try two things. One (the easier but less likely for it to "automagically" work) is go to Places->Computer and see if they're there.
[05:56] <poss_> i did gksudo nautilus, so I have full access, but when i click on them they say "error mounting"
[05:56] <Starminn> poss_: Oh.
[05:56] <Starminn> poss_: Have you tried doing it from the CLI?
[05:57] <poss_> I don't speak CLI
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[05:58] <ruan> ok, what is the ubuntu channel for spanish?
[05:58] <Abinadi> Starminn, don't you ever go to bed?  lmao.  I'm off to see the wizard, or a movie whichever is on.  Thanks for all your help today everyone!
[05:58] <milamber> expecto: sudo apt-get install libglut3
[05:58] <Starminn> poss_: type in "sudo fdisk -l" to view all partitions.
[05:58] <poss_> not that it matters, now the liveCD has frozen
[05:58] <bazhang> ruan,#ubuntu-es
[05:58] <ruan> ty
[05:58] <poss_> I can't the live disk froze..  again..
[05:58] <Starminn> Abinadi: Sleep is for the weak.
[05:58] <Starminn> Abinadi: YEah I do I will in about an hour :)
[05:58] <expecto> i did milamber
[05:58] <expecto> i think it ended?
[05:59] <expecto> :p
[05:59] <jiohdi> poss_, do you have any special video cards?
[05:59] <KXTwo> Hey everyone, on windows I was a big fan of Utorrent, but I dont think it has a linux version, hopefully im wrong so if I am how do I get Utorrent, otherwise what is a good one?
[05:59] <poss_> are liveCDs even meant to be able to freeze?
[05:59] <soreau> ! es | ruan
[05:59] <milamber> expecto: now ./Foldit
[05:59] <Starminn> poss_: Well just so we're clear, Ubuntu did not ruin the drives. Ubuntu is just not mounting them.
[05:59] <sacarlson> poss_: does is sound like the cd is spinning up and down fast and slow?  maybe bad cd media problem
[05:59] <ruan> yeah i know, this is for someone else
[05:59] <bazhang> !torrent | KXTwo
[05:59] <Chikokishi> When i sign onto the user without admin power my sound works and internet doesnt. when i sign into admin the internet works and the sound doesnt.  Help.
[05:59] <Starminn> poss_: Did you burn it at the slowest speed?
[05:59] <poss_> cd isn't spinning at all
[05:59] <expecto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569039/
[05:59] <expecto> ok
[05:59] <bazhang> KXTwo,try some and find out.
[05:59] <KXTwo> wow
[06:00] <Blue1> Chikokishi: quick thing to check are you a member of the group "audio" in /etc/group
[06:00] <KXTwo> amazing lol
[06:00] <poss_> I burnt the cd at middle speed using all the data sureity options
[06:00] <expecto> oh i think it worked
[06:00] <milamber> !torrent | KXTwo
[06:00] <Chikokishi> Blue1 wehat do you mean? sorry i am new to ubuntu
[06:00] <Chikokishi> what*
[06:00] <expecto> a screen came up its updating
[06:00] <expecto> thanks :)
[06:00] <KXTwo> already been done milamber and pretty much a pointless answer, but thank you :)
[06:00] <ruan> transmission is pre installed with ubuntu
[06:01] <silverlightning> do any of you have a hotmail or live email account?
[06:01] <ohsix> KXTwo: you can also run utorrent with wine
[06:01] <silverlightning> I cannot access the login page at all
[06:01] <expecto> will i be able to just click the icon from now on']
[06:01] <JeffCBR> Anyone knowledable with irssi?
[06:01] <expecto> ?
[06:01] <Starminn> poss_: If you feel there may be an error with the CD you may wish to check it for errors. I will ubottu you in a moment.
[06:01] <milamber> KXTwo: transmission is the default and it works pretty well for me. good luck in your endeavors :-)
[06:01] <Blue1> Chikokishi: cat /etc/group | grep audio
[06:01] <bazhang> JeffCBR,the people in #irssi
[06:01] <Starminn> !md5 | poss_
[06:01] <jrgill> cant believe the mute button and all that works on my keyboard in live cd :P
[06:01] <KXTwo> ohsix, I think I found a linux version of utorrent
[06:01] <poss_> I verified the checksum
[06:01] <milamber> expecto: that means the program is running?
[06:01] <JeffCBR> bazhang: Thanks, I'll try that. :D
[06:01] <ohsix> JeffCBR: if they are their time is better spent answering a question, not signalling their prowess ;]
[06:02] <axjota> Tristantio> ehh
[06:02] <KXTwo> I l oved utorrent it was lite and simple
[06:02] <poss_> I wouldn't install any OS without verifying the disc first
[06:02] <Chikokishi> Blue1 do i type that in terminal?
[06:02] <jrgill> and media controls :)
[06:02] <Starminn> poss_: Ah. Hmm. You could always forfeit the GUI. IT could just be a graphics card like somebodyearlier stated. To do so, just type in "CTRL+ALT+F1"
[06:02] <JeffCBR> lol, ohsix. But, I don't have an irssi question. I just want to knowif anyone knows about it. :P
[06:02] <Blue1> Chikokishi: yes, paste the one line of output here.
[06:02] <axjota> jrgill> hi
[06:02] <KXTwo> yess utorrent does have a linux downlnoad
[06:03] <expecto> its running yes :)
[06:03] <ruan> check the ubuntu software center
[06:03] <poss_> ok, im waiting for it to restart
[06:03] <expecto> milamber
[06:03] <axjota> to jrjill:HI
[06:03] <milamber> expecto: excellent
[06:03] <KXTwo> no gui though
[06:03] <expecto> thank you, so next time i want to play i have to do the same process?
[06:03] <jrgill> where are the monitor and video lines and all that in xorg.conf?  im looking in the configs in /usr/share.  i don't see this.
[06:04] <venkatraman> hi I was trying to upgrade my ubuntu vm from 10.04 to 10.10 ..It stopped in between due to power failure. Now , i have used livecd and chroot...now apt-get upgrade or apt-get -f install , both stops with error
[06:04] <ruan> KXTwo: you can search "torrent" in ubuntu software center, and try them
[06:04] <poss_> fdisk sees the partitions exist
[06:04] <atila> #liat
[06:04] <Chikokishi> Blue1: audio:x:29:pulse
[06:04] <alkisg> venkatraman: is the *first* error you see about dbus?
[06:04] <Gryllida> atila?
[06:04] <lamefun> where can I ask about GTK/GNOME programming?
[06:04] <Starminn> poss_: Awesome. Now just follow this guide: http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/133/how-to-mount-and-unmount-a-drive-in-linux/
[06:04] <KXTwo> ruan, yah I saw those, just wanted some opinions first
[06:04] <Blue1> Chikokishi: okay that's good you should NOT be a member of the group audio.
[06:05] <xorwhy> Where do I input the IP address and port of a proxy that is to be applied system-wide? I'm using the gnome desktop, if that helps
[06:05] <milamber> expecto: the sudo apt-get command installed a dependency you were missing. but you will have to cd into the directory and then run the prog, yes. there are ways to create shortcuts though if that gets too cumbersome.
[06:05] <Chikokishi> Blue1 What does being a group of audio group mean?
[06:05] <bazhang> KXTwo,please dont poll here   try #ubuntu-bots
[06:05] <KXTwo> poll?
[06:05] <venkatraman> alkisg: dbus error also i have seen
[06:05] <expecto> well thanks milamber :)
[06:05] <icedtea> lamefun: in what language?
[06:05] <lamefun> english
[06:05] <soreau> Hey guys, does <?php and ?> have to appear on the first column of the line or should you be able to use <?php somecmd(); ?> ok?
[06:05] <alkisg> venkatraman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/552404
[06:06] <Starminn> poss_: Since that's a bit vague this goes into more well-explained detail if you wish: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html (more plain english)
[06:06] <icedtea> lamefun: what programming language I mean?
[06:06] <lamefun> C
[06:06] <Blue1> Chikokishi: are you hard wired, or wireless?
[06:06] <poss_> ok im trying that now
[06:06] <Chikokishi> Blue1 wiresless, i can hrd if you need me to
[06:06] <root> hi
[06:06] <Chikokishi> hi root
[06:06] <icedtea> lamefun: if you need help with C programming, join #c, otherwise there's another irc network for gtk/gnome thats better than this one
[06:07] <Blue1> Chikokishi: nope but I;ll need to get my netbook to check something back in a couple
[06:07] <Guest26553> can i ask something chikokishi
[06:07] <xorwhy> nevermind i found it
[06:07] <Chikokishi> Thank you
[06:07] <Chikokishi> Whts up Guest
[06:07] <Senjai> !ask | Guest26553
[06:07] <Guest26553> i use bt4 and already install wine...i install teamviewer but cannot run
[06:08] <icedtea> lamefun: its irc.gnome.org
[06:08] <bazhang> Guest26553,#backtrack-linux for that NOT here
[06:08] <icedtea> lamefun: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels
[06:08] <KXTwo> oh god, god forbid some one is polite lol
[06:08] <costas> not me...
[06:09] <Starminn> Guest26553: You are sure that the program you wish to run will run in WINE?
[06:09] <bazhang> !backtrack | Guest26553
[06:09] <Starminn> bazhang, Guest26553: Oh, sorry, didn't see bazhang replied. Listen to him. :)
[06:10] <costas> Guest26553, you could read in the wine site more...
[06:10] <Guest26553> tnx a lot dear...
[06:10] <icedtea> lamefun: #gtk+ is probably what you want
[06:10] <Blue1> Chikokishi: right click on your wireless connection icon, then select wireless, find your connectionm at the bottom make sure availiable to all users IS checked.
[06:10] <KXTwo> man that bot is annoying people use it too much lol
[06:10] <Senjai> Guest26553, there is a helpful irc channel on this network for wine, you can look at it too for help as well #winehq
[06:10] <Starminn> !appdb | Guest26553: To check if the program will run in WINE --
[06:10] <costas> too tired to type, or too aristocratic perhaps 8-)
[06:11] <Senjai> KXTwo, like me? :P
[06:11] <poss_> Starminn, so fdisk shows the drives are there, but when i actually go to mount them it says they dont exist
[06:11] <ohsix> KXTwo: thats the only thing some people do, typing is hard
[06:11] <xorwhy> I added a proxy to "Network Proxy Preferences" and clicked "Apply system-wide" but it did not  work.
[06:11] <poss_> "mount: special device dev/sda1 does not exist"
[06:11] <Senjai> ohsix, all so hard.
[06:11] <Chikokishi> blue1 i have "enable wireless" but thats it
[06:11] <costas> poss_, check disk manager in synaptic, install it and mount your disks properly
[06:11] <Guest26553> tnx i try it  now
[06:11] <icedtea> poss_: what command are you using to mount it exactly?
[06:11] <Starminn> poss_: I've never had to mount a drive myself, so beyond the simple "howto" I'm not of much use. Perhaps others will chime in?
[06:12] <poss_> costas: that would require me having a gui
[06:12] <KXTwo> ohsix, apparantly lol, I ask for personal opinions on torrent clients and I get a bot response of a list of all of them, obviously I could have done that myself lol
[06:12] <costas> use man mount for more info
[06:12] <Blue1> Chikokishi: are you logged in as root, or no?
[06:12] <Senjai> costas, that manual sucks, I can't even understand it.
[06:12] <costas> poss read the man pages, easy
[06:12] <ohsix> KXTwo: i use utorrent and transmission
[06:12] <costas> !mount
[06:13] <poss_> iced tea:  three comands are required: sudo mkdir /test/drives/250   then sudo chmod 777 /test/drives/250    then sudo mount dev/sda1 /test/drives/250
[06:13] <Blue1> all righty then.
[06:13] <Chikokishi> Blue1 Ok i got it
[06:13] <Chikokishi> Blue1 Ok i got it
[06:13] <icedtea> try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /test/drives/250
[06:13] <Blue1> Chikokishi: okay that will make the wireless connection available to anyone.
[06:13] <KXTwo> ohsix, im a utorrent fan on my windows machine, its so lite weight and simple, but no GUI yet, just command line
[06:14] <Starminn> KXTwo: You want me to bot you for "best"? :) When people ask for personal opinions/best apps in here they get a lecture on how "best" for Person A is different from Person B's opinion of "best." Which is true. Personally I use the default Transmission. I've tried Vuze but wasn't a fan.
[06:14] <poss_> that was the third command icedtea, or was there some subtle difference i missed?
[06:14] <Chikokishi> Oh, so my "guest" account will be able to use it?
[06:14] <costas> KXTwo, I just use Transmission on Debian...
[06:14] <icedtea> poss_: you left out the forward "/"
[06:14] <Senjai> Transmission is great :)
[06:14] <icedtea> or backslash rather
[06:14] <Starminn> KXTwo: Then again, I'm not a big torrent user. :)
[06:14] <Blue1> Chikokishi: yes, as long as "available to all users" is enabled for that wireless connection.
[06:14] <poss_> icedtea: genius!
[06:15] <Chikokishi> Ok, any idea why my sound isnt working?
[06:15] <KXTwo> in reality it doesnt matter, as long as it downloads as fast as possible lol
[06:15] <Abinadi> !sound | Chikokishi
[06:15] <Blue1> Chikokishi: i've been thinking about that, and nothing pops to mind....
[06:16] <Blue1> Chikokishi: irq conflicts, but that's extremely rare these days.
[06:16] <Chikokishi> Blue1, its strange, it worked fine this morning.. then it didnt
[06:16] <Blue1> Chikokishi: we can poke around a little.
[06:16] <Blue1> Chikokishi: private message ok?
[06:16] <KXTwo> I think I used vuze and azureus for windows and didnt care for either of them
[06:17] <Starminn> KXTwo: I have a pretty speedy connection and Transmission gets the job done fine. Could it be faster? Maybe. *shrug* I've not tried much else honestly because there's no need for it for me. Again though, I only use on occasion so if it's not top speed I'm okay with that. But just try them all out, man. Pick a torrent and use the same one for every client. Compare/contrast.
[06:17] <Senjai> KXTwo, uTorrent is the best for Windows, imo
[06:17] <icedtea> poss_: so it works?
[06:17] <Abinadi> ok, before anyone !vbox - es me I'm only asking in here because there isn't anyone at home over there.  I have a Maverick Host OS and am using VirtualBox with a guest OS of Windows Vista 64 bit Ultimate and I can't seem to get Windows to recognize the sound card.  Any pointers?
[06:17] <poss_> now it is telling me I must specifiy a filesystem type, but i don't see anything about that in the documentation
[06:17] <KXTwo> Senjai, I agree, thats why I was hoping it had a linux version and it does but command line only.  Supposedly they are working on it though
[06:17] <Senjai> Starminn, Remember, that speed is not just determinent on software, also your connection, router, number of peers, and how fast they're connections are
[06:18] <Starminn> poss_: By the way, to get your GUI back type in "CTRL+ALT+F7". F1->F6 are terminals.
[06:18] <Senjai> Starminn, use a popular torrent with a low # of leechers, and test among different clients
[06:18] <royale1223> i made an aptoncd dvd but synaptic is not detecting it. Why? This problem is only on my administrator account.
[06:18] <bazhang> silverlightning,try ##linux this is Ubuntu only
[06:18] <Starminn> Senjai: I know, thus why I suggested he use the same torrent file for each client.
[06:18] <poss_> thanks Starminn, I figured that out last night, but it was a tense few minutes while googling on my phone :P
[06:19] <Starminn> poss_: Lol. Same here first time I did it
[06:19] <icedtea> poss_: what type of filesystem is it do you know ? is its windows or linux like?
[06:19] <royale1223> i made an aptoncd dvd but synaptic is not detecting it. Why? This problem is only on my administrator account.
[06:19] <poss_> I have a 250 gb linux a 1TB windows and an 80gb linux
[06:20] <icedtea> poss_: which one are you trying to mount?
[06:20] <Starminn> poss_: What's the filesystem type? If Windows it's NTFS. If Linux it's probably ext<something>. To specify filesystem type while mounting you type in "mount -t <filesystem type> ......" with .... being the rest of the comman.
[06:20] <ruan> you can tell what it is with sudo fdisk -l
[06:20] <poss_> to be honest, im not even sure what I'm doing anymore, i jsut want the computer to work
[06:21] <costas> Chikokishi, you use alsa or oss?
[06:21] <Senjai> poss_ welcome to linux :P
[06:21] <Starminn> Senjai: :)
[06:21] <poss_> so the two small drives both have data i want to rescue on them
[06:22] <poss_> the big drive is completely empty but its external so its slow
[06:22] <costas> poss don't listen to them Ubuntu is stable enough... after all it's debian based...
[06:22] <Tristantio> poss do they show up when you do "df -h" ?
[06:22] <Senjai> I remember spending hours reconfiguring iptables, my router and everything to get apache to work externally, just to find out i had firestarter running in the background.
[06:22] <icedtea> poss_: are you trying to mount the windows drive or linux one?
[06:22] <poss_> both
[06:22] <Senjai> costas, not implying instability, just saying linux, at it its points, has a steep learning curve.
[06:23] <icedtea> poss_: one at a time please :)
[06:23] <poss_> ok well the linux one worked.. i think..  i have no idea how to check, but it didn't give an error
[06:23] <Tristantio> poss_: do the drives show up with df -h?
[06:23] <poss_> so its the windows one that is requiring a file type
[06:23] <icedtea> poss_: if its a windows drive do the following: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /blah/blah
[06:23] <Tristantio> "df -h" will show if it is mounted or not
[06:24] <costas> Senjai, linux is a read and practise OS, as opposed to closed source OSs. Yeah it's hard for the average point & click person but it's fine by me
[06:24] <Prinler> Ok, having issues. I was playing with an old
[06:25] <poss_> its saying its not ntfs
[06:25] <Senjai> costas, I remember when I first got ubuntu, killed myself a few times before figuring somethings out. It's hard for anyone at first I think.
[06:25] <Senjai> poss_ windows is usually ntfs, or fat32
[06:25] <icedtea> poss_: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /blah /blah
[06:25] <royale1223> i made an aptoncd dvd but synaptic is not detecting it. Why? This problem is only on my administrator account.
[06:26] <poss_> so on fdisk it sayw w95 ext'd (lba) if that helps
[06:26] <costas> Senjai I'm an ancient debian user, bought it from France in 1994-95 (can't remember exactly too much drugs then) 8-D
[06:26] <sacarlson> poss_: when I hear royale1223 did you add the new cd to your repository in synaptic?
[06:27] <sacarlson> opps no you poos_
[06:27] <royale1223> sacarlson: i cant add
[06:27] <Prinler> Ok, having issues. I was playing with an old P4. got ubuntu installed... decided i wanted to get a video card that has hdmi... I get the card to find out its pci-e.. my bad.. P4 doesnt support.  So i get another box.. AMD x2 something buncha ram. slap in a HD and installed new video card. Nvidia 8300. So it installs and seems to run fine. I have been running into a crazy amount of weird stuff. VNC wont let me connect 100%, winscp wont conn
[06:27] <Prinler> ect 100% when i go back to the box it had no network connectivity. Can anyone help me out?
[06:27] <poss_> no i didn't sacarison
[06:27] <Senjai> costas, haha! << windows 7 winapi programmer, as you can imagine, big switch
[06:27] <Tristantio> poss_ you sure your drive isn't mounted already if its showing up in fdisk?
[06:27] <Tristantio> df -h shows all mounts
[06:27] <bazhang> Prinler,lspci for the chipsets
[06:27] <costas> poss, do youself a favour, do a clean install... first back up to a neutral partition your data
[06:27] <sacarlson> royale1223: do you know how to add a cd to your repository?
[06:28] <poss_> costas, that is what I am trying to do
[06:28] <royale1223> scrooloose: getinng the error
[06:28] <bazhang> Prinler,paste.ubuntu.com with that command plese
[06:28] <royale1223> scrooloose: getinng the error E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[06:28] <poss_> costas, i currently cant see any of the drives in order to back them up
[06:28] <Prinler> ok hmmm
[06:28] <sacarlson> royale1223: oh sounds like a media problem on that cd then
[06:28] <Prinler> lemme see how i can do this
[06:28] <poss_> well now i can see one drive, but i cant see the externa; drive to copy stuff too
[06:28] <icedtea> Prinler: can you ping anything on the new box?
[06:28] <Tristantio> poss_ if you are using an external drive you sure it isn't just at the usb mount
[06:29] <royale1223> sacarlson: nah. it works on my friends ubuntu
[06:29] <Tristantio> its probably a usb drive right?
[06:29] <costas> poss, do you have a spare partition? install there, and backup after Ubuntu install with gui etc
[06:29] <Prinler> I can ping on fresh boot. On failed connection attempt it shuts down the connection...
[06:29] <Prinler> I can pull network cable and replug back in ... and it works
[06:29] <bazhang> Prinler,need the chipsets to troubleshoot
[06:29] <Prinler> ok
[06:29] <sacarlson> royale1223: I have two cd drives in a single pc one will sometimes read a cd that the other won't
[06:29] <poss_> icedtea: it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3, missing codepage or helper program or other error"
[06:30] <costas> sacarlson, maby you have a faulty cable...
[06:30] <poss_> I tried unplugging and replugging, but it doesn't show up anywhere but in fdisk
[06:30] <share> hello
[06:30]  * Senjai waves at share
[06:30] <share> lol
[06:30] <royale1223> sacarlson: if i create another account it works perfectly.. i mean user acc
[06:30] <costas> poss mount manually, do a "man mount" to ensure proper ext3 or ext4 attributes
[06:30] <sacarlson> costas: no both cd readers will read some disks just one disk reads more disks than the other,  just better focus or stronger laser
[06:31] <icedtea> poss_: what type does: fdisk -l display
[06:31] <share> is it possible to create a shortcut for a word?
[06:31] <Tristantio> poss
[06:31] <costas> sacarlson, maby it's time you threw away the one that doesn't read well enough
[06:31] <sacarlson> royale1223: oh then your other user doesn't have mount privliges
[06:31] <Tristantio> do
[06:31] <Tristantio> sudo mount -t msdos /blabla /blabla
[06:31] <share> instead of launching a program write text
[06:31] <Tristantio> for your usb drive
[06:31] <poss_> W95 Ext'd
[06:31] <poss_> W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[06:32] <ryan__> greetings ;]
[06:32] <sacarlson> costas: I don't use eather cd anymore I install direct from hard disk,  it's faster and works every time
[06:32] <costas> managed to destroy a plextor with DVDs that needed backup myself
[06:32] <royale1223> sacarlson: it do have mount privilages
[06:32] <Starminn> share: More details please? What exactly are you trying to do/how are you wanting to go about it?
[06:32] <poss_> oh wait my bad
[06:32] <poss_> I was reading fdisk all wrong
[06:32] <royale1223> sacarlson: brb
[06:32] <poss_> let me try that again
[06:32] <ryan__> a most curious thing is happening.... my laptop keeps beeping at me and I cannot seem to figure out how to make it stop. I have been running ubuntu for several months now and have never seen this type of thing. Anyone have any kind of suggestion for troubleshooting?
[06:33] <sacarlson> royale1223: so what's different bettween the two users?  what groups do each belong to that's different?
[06:33] <Tristantio> ryan__ is your laptop booting or beeping at boot
[06:33] <Tristantio> if it beeps every 5 to 10 sec and wont boot its ram
[06:33] <Prinler> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569044/
[06:33] <poss_> ok now its giving me the same error as when i tried to mount from gui
[06:33] <Tristantio> hey poss
[06:33] <Tristantio> can you hear me?
[06:33] <Tristantio> did you try the msdos type
[06:33] <share> Starminn: ie if I press ctrl+t Ubuntu types text... you know .. to bind a keyboard shortcut to write soemthing
[06:34] <ryan__> no,  the regular bios beep does still happen,  this beep I am asking about is happening about every 4 seconds and is a single short beep,  temps read fine and the battery is fully charged and running on AC
[06:34] <ryan__> this is in the running OS
[06:34] <poss_> Falied to mount,  NTFS is either inconsistent or there is a hardware fault, or its a softRAID/FakeRAID hardware.
[06:34] <Starminn> share: Mess around with System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:34] <bazhang> Prinler,does ifconfig show only lo , or also eth0
[06:34] <share> Starminn: I know that.. but how do I make type text..
[06:35] <Prinler> Only eth0
[06:35] <poss_> but its a brand new drive, it has like 8gb of stuff on it and has been working flawlessly right up until i started messing with ubuntu today
[06:35] <ryan__> i have reloaded the sound driver as a shot in the dark but no relief
[06:35] <Starminn> share: I've never done much with them myself. You could try inserting the desired text as the "command" or you could just write a script to write something and call it in the "command" box. Either way it's worth a shot, 'eh?
[06:35] <poss_> it can't be stuffed, it is incocievable that I have had three seperate hard drives all magically independantly die on the same day during the same process
[06:36] <ryan__> I wonder what it's trying to tell me
[06:36] <bazhang> Prinler,there does not appear to be a wireless nic there; sudo dhclient eth0 to get wired working
[06:36] <Tristantio> ryan__ is the beep from your hardware or from your sound?
[06:36] <poss_> surely that is a stastical impossibility?
[06:36] <royale1223> sacarlson: both are administrator acc
[06:36] <costas> poss sounds, like you did some damage during partitioning...
[06:36] <ryan__> Tristantio,  it's from the audio device
[06:36] <poss_> the external drive was not being partitioned
[06:37] <ryan__> not from a hardware speaker like the temperature warning
[06:37] <jamiewan> poss_, have you checked the drives on another machine
[06:37] <poss_> it was just sitting there waiting to have stuff copied to it
[06:37] <sacarlson> royale1223: and when they attempt to mount are they using sudo?
[06:37] <ryan__> I find it odd that I'm not getting a graphical alert
[06:38] <Prinler> its up... and i can browes the net
[06:38] <Arney> Ubuntu is failing to install... giving getpwuid_r() "failed due to unkwon user id"
[06:39] <Prinler> when i try to connect to the box it will attempt to authenticate... ask me for password... then quit... error out and say it cant connect.. Then i run over to box and its got no network abilities
[06:39] <icedtea> hey... in ubuntu... what happened to the ifup and ifdown commands?
[06:39] <poss> ok i just tried the external drive on my laptop, it is buggered
[06:39] <Arney> Ive tried reinstalling on my usb stick and another hard drive partition, aswell as redownloading the image. No change.
[06:39] <jamiewan> poss, must of screwed up partitioning stuff, bugger
[06:39] <costas> Arney, that's a first for me, anyone?
[06:40] <poss> jamiewan: the external drive was not being partitioned, how could it be ruined, it was just plugged in
[06:40] <poss> oh great, now my uncle, my aunt and my gf are ALL going to kill me for destroying their hard drives
[06:40] <maco> icedtea: they're there. and they work. config goes in /etc/network/interfaces   any interface configured there is not managed by Network Manager, iirc, and if NM thinks it owns that interface (because it did when it started) then you can't use ifup/ifdown on that command until NM is made aware that it does not
[06:40] <KXTwo> Arney, are you booting live cd from a usb car?
[06:40] <costas> poss, do try to mount and backup... take it slow
[06:40] <Senjai[coding]> poss, say your dog ate it?
[06:40] <maco> icedtea: (or until NM's service is stopped)
[06:40] <poss> at some point it has to be clear that this is not a hardware fault...
[06:40] <Arney> live usb and usb install
[06:41] <Arney> and live primary partition on my hd
[06:41] <Prinler> Example, Winscp... It says authenticating... Authenticated, starting the session... reading remote directory... Then it locks up and eventually say can not connect.
[06:41] <poss> lol senjai, they have been watching me trying to fix this problem for two days now, i don't think the dog ate it will really cut it
[06:41] <_NaN_> how can I delete the content of a variable in bash?
[06:41] <Arney> none work
[06:41] <Prinler> bazhang,
[06:42] <costas> Arney, did you download the iso and try that?
[06:42] <KXTwo> will your ubuntu usb boot ?
[06:42] <Arney> yes it will
[06:42] <Arney> but after I click install
[06:42] <Arney> or live
[06:42] <sacarlson> royale1223: are both your users a member of the users group "fuse" ?
[06:42] <bazhang> Prinler,yes
[06:42] <Arney> it either hangs when I click live, or throws an unkown user id error
[06:42] <Arney> when I click install
[06:43] <tim__> Hello my name is Fabian, I've seen your videos on youtube and I think maybe I can ayudar.Sabes if possible install or run on Ubuntu 10.10 Adobe Illustrator?
[06:43] <bazhang> Arney,keep it one line, its impossible to read otherwise
[06:43] <poss_> damn connection keeps dropping
[06:43] <icedtea> maco: does ubuntu have a substitute command for ifup and ifdown that is automatically configured when ubuntu is installed?
[06:43] <bazhang> tim__,check the appdb
[06:43] <bazhang> !appdb > tim__
[06:43] <maco> icedtea: no, the command is exactly the same
[06:43] <poss_> uh guys..   the live disc just crashed again,  from alt ctrl f1..  i wasn't even doing anything
[06:43] <poss_> it just crashed
[06:43] <KXTwo> Arney, boot into ubuntu from your usb, then use gpart to set up your partitions, then reboot and i nstead of booting into ubunto arrow to the install option
[06:43] <poss_> that can't be graphics drivers
[06:44] <bazhang> poss_,then burn a new one
[06:44] <maco> poss_: bad burn?
[06:44] <silverlightning> is there any distro more easy going than Ubuntu?
[06:44] <poss_> i checked the checksum
[06:44] <silverlightning> like lubuntu perhaps
[06:44] <bazhang> silverlightning,discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <KXTwo> wait Arney, where did you download the iso for
[06:44] <poss_> i checked the disc
[06:44] <icedtea> silverlightning: linux from scratch ;)
[06:44] <Arney> KXTwo: Ubuntu wont boot, it get stuck in "user id unknown"
[06:44] <Tristantio> poss make sure you burn at a low disk burn speed or you may have a bad burn and crash on an otherwise "good" disk
[06:44] <costas> silverlightning, try debian
[06:44] <researcher1> is there a way to creat username and passwords in bulk? I want to allow access to Ubuntu for 300 students
[06:44] <silverlightning> bazhang, you really are strickt about this
[06:44] <Prinler> bazhang, Any ideas? SSH installed, xbmc installed, all updates installed, attempted x11vncserver, I cant get anything to connect. Connection drops dead in the middle of connecting
[06:44] <Arney> ubuntu.com but, I readownloaded and I still get the same problem
[06:45] <bazhang> silverlightning,indeed. what if every one here chimed in.
[06:45] <KXTwo> you didnt download the netbook version did you?
[06:45] <jrgill> where is xorg.conf on the live cd?  theres nothing in /usr/share with modelines
[06:45] <poss_> oh man, that shiny upgrade to next version button needs to be bright read and have a warning sign reading "WARNING: upgrading ubuntu may make everyone you love turn against you and destroy every hard drive in the house"
[06:45] <Arney> I tryed unetbootin and the default usb installer, both attempts fail.
[06:45] <maco> silverlightning: write a script and feed a file full of usernames to it?
[06:45] <sacarlson> poss_:  maybe hardware?  memory faults can cause random crashes like that
[06:45] <Tristantio> Hey jrgill type "locate xorg.conf", very useful command
[06:45] <maco> silverlightning: if you're intending to have 300 students and have them able to login on any system though....id say you need LDAP
[06:45] <Tristantio> will tell you where your file is
[06:45] <n2diy_> my and back up box and printer are downstairs, the printer has an SD card in it that I want a file off of, can I ftp to it?
[06:45] <jrgill> ok
[06:46] <poss_> i ran a memory check yesterday sacarison, it ran clean
[06:46] <KXTwo> did you download 32bit or 64bit?
[06:46] <silverlightning> maco, don't misunderstand me, I am keeping it to ubuntu related distros, like lubuntu, xubuntu...
[06:46] <jrgill> none of these have video lines
[06:46] <KXTwo> Arney,  did you download 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:46] <Arney> 32
[06:47] <jrgill> edev, synaptics, vmmouse, wacom, synaptics-quirks, magictrackpad
[06:47] <KXTwo> Arney, from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download ?
[06:47] <maco> silverlightning: LDAP is a thing that makes it so that you have centralised authentication. can make it so every system in the school uses LDAP as a backend, even the Windows ones (Active Directory is based on LDAP)
[06:47] <bazhang> silverlightning,easygoing? as on the cpu/graphics/ram requirements?
[06:47] <maco> silverlightning: then instead of setting up user accounts for every student on every computer, you set it up once, and they login everywhere
[06:47] <Arney> KXTwo: Yes, both times from there, 10.10 non LTS
[06:48] <Prinler> ok, sudo dhclient eth0, shows NODHCPOFFERS recived
[06:48] <KXTwo> Arney, how did you install it to your usb?
[06:48] <poss_> so uh...  I guess im just completely screwed then guys?
[06:48] <costas> poss, you CAN use mount and save your data, don't be lazy
[06:48] <bazhang> Prinler,try bringing eth0 down and up again, be sure the cable is well attached then try again
[06:48] <Arney> KXTwo: on the third line of the error I get, xor: automatically using best checksuming function: PIII_SSE
[06:48] <poss_> I've run out of hard drives to sacrifice to ubuntu,  the live cd crashes, the new install crashes..
[06:49] <bazhang> poss_,burn a new cd
[06:49] <Arney> KXTwo: once using unetbootin and another time with Quniversal usb installer"
[06:49] <poss_> costas: No i cant, i just told you, the live cd crashed
[06:49] <poss_> it crashes randomly
[06:49] <KXTwo> universal usb installer is the way to do it
[06:49] <poss_> *sigh* ok guys thanks for your help, im going to go cry for a bit
[06:49] <bazhang> Arney,it may take more than a single attempt. took me twice with unetbootin
[06:49] <thune3> poss_: i usually suspect wifi or video drivers from random crashes
[06:49] <sacarlson> poss_: you want to try a boot direct from hard disk,  it's just a grub2 entry to point at a iso file you want to install
[06:49] <KXTwo> im not sure what the problem is, if you followed all of your instructions properly.
[06:50] <silverlightning> bazhang, yes like a weaker portable with 1GB RAM, 1,5GHz non dual processors
[06:50] <KXTwo> I used universal usb installer, and it worked perfectly no issues
[06:50] <bazhang> silverlightning,then lubuntu, or minimal iso and build up
[06:50] <Arney> bazhang: I have reinstalled the iso 5 different times with a combination of installers
[06:50] <Arney> bazhang: including formatting
[06:50] <bazhang> !minimal > silverlightning
[06:50] <costas> poss_, in your shoes, I'd choose a new partition, and format it, then install from an ubuntu iso just to make sure, then save the data, then format all and do a clean install.-
[06:51] <bazhang> Arney,formatting how/with what to what
[06:51] <n2diy_> my back up box and printer are downstairs, the printer has an SD card in it that I want a file off of, can I ftp to it? Using gftp I've looked for the printer under /mnt, /mount, and /dev, but I can't find it?
[06:51] <KXTwo> but you are saying it wont even boot into ubuntu from the usb, that makes no sense to me
[06:51] <bazhang> Arney,sounds like a corrupt iso or a bad 'burn' still.
[06:51] <Prinler> bazhang, Nope, down then back up.... no traffic... I HAVE to unplug cable and then back in. Only way it resets so it goes online again...
[06:51] <Arney> bazhang: I redownloaded the iso and reinstalled
[06:52] <Tristantio> if you can't boot into ubuntu from usb are you sure your motherboard supports usb boot?
[06:52] <KXTwo> what kind of system are you in stalling to?
[06:52] <bazhang> Arney,reinstalled ; did you extract from the iso?
[06:52] <costas> Arney, maby your router isn't configured to let the net install happen...
[06:52] <Arney> bazhang: I checked the formatting boxes on unet and universal usb installer
[06:52] <Arney> no
[06:52] <bazhang> Arney,no to whom
[06:52] <Arney> costas: I dont have the laptop connected to the internet
[06:53] <Arney> bazhang: I did not extract the files first
[06:53] <bazhang> Prinler,how did you bring the interface down and then back up, what command please
[06:53] <sacarlson> poss_: if you choose to try it heres the method for direct boot from iso but sounds like some kind of hardware problem,  maybe disable everything you don't need in bios and try again.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604  for direct iso boot
[06:53] <KXTwo> Arney, you dont need to change any options on universal usb installer unless you want persistence, delete both iso's youve downloaded, download a new one
[06:53] <serp_> sometimes my ubuntu freezes and capslock + numlock start to blink. the only solution is to reboot. how do I troubleshoot this?
[06:53] <KXTwo> start usb installer tell it you want ubuntu 10.10 and it will automatically find the iso then just click next
[06:54] <KXTwo> and clear your memory card first just to be safe
[06:54] <Prinler> bazhang, sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[06:54] <ohsix> serp_: that's a kernel panic
[06:54] <Arney> KXTwo: It wont fit without me formatting the stick.. but ok
[06:54] <KXTwo> Arney, it wont fit without your formatting?
[06:55] <KXTwo> Arney, I said to clear it, if you are going to format do fat32
[06:56] <Arney> KXTwo: I always formatted to fat32
[06:56] <serp_> ohsix: I was worryied that might be it. how do I get more information about what caused it?
[06:56] <Arney> KXTwo: its downloading, again. itll take 28 minutes
[06:56] <KXTwo> Arney the instructions are right here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[06:56] <ohsix> serp_: i had to use netconsole, theres probably a better way to do it though
[06:56] <KXTwo> step two click usb and windows
[06:57] <Prinler> bazhang, I just got into the box via ssh/putty... let me log in... then 15 seconds later poof.. connection dropped.
[06:58] <icedtea> Prinler: do you have two boxes with the same ip connected to a router? I've seen that same thing happen before
[06:58] <Prinler> hmmmm
[06:59] <icedtea> Prinler: are you using static ips?
[06:59] <Prinler> lemme change the ip
[06:59] <Prinler> I am
[06:59] <Prinler> 1.150
[06:59] <Prinler> lemme 1.155
[06:59] <durando> hey guys i have a image thats intended to be installed on a usb stick but i want to isntall it to a HDD i have done this in the past i just cant remeber the how
[06:59] <Arney> KXTwo: I am trying wubi on another computer from the same usb stick, while the other image downloads
[06:59] <jrgill> does the live cd use /etc/X11/xorg.conf?  doesnt seem like it.  i need to add some modelines.
[06:59] <jrgill> im using 10.10
[06:59] <maco> jrgill: you can create an xorg.conf and restart X
[06:59] <maco> jrgill: oh, just modelines?
[06:59] <drlego> I am unable to connect to any webpages while my bittorrent client is running ( at 5k/s up 5k/s down) using Firefox or MSIE in VBOX. Other programs such as IRC, e-mail, etc. function properly. Has anybody else encountered this probem?
[07:00] <maco> !resolution | jrgill
[07:00] <maco> jrgill: the reason there's no xorg.conf is that things can be configured on the fly now :) check out the wiki page
[07:00] <Arney> Wubi is trying to download the 64 bit version.... with torrents. That wont work on a university network.
[07:00] <serp_> ohsix: netconsole? serial console?
[07:00] <jrgill> maco: so theres no more xorg.conf?
[07:01] <maco> jrgill: by default, no. it's been unnecessary for 3 years
[07:02] <mycosys> nvidia wouldnt happen to have introduced persistant overclocking in their linux drivers would they, or a method to overclock via cli?
[07:02] <icedtea> Prinler: are you using virtualization also?
[07:02] <Prinler> Ok all set at 1.155
[07:02] <Prinler> whats that
[07:02] <jrgill> maco: oh wow.  so much has changed since i used linux for home use i.e. a gui
[07:02] <jrgill> i generated a config and placed it in X11.  i guess if it's not set to read the config, it wont.
[07:02] <jrgill> oh well.  this is good news.  should be easier to play w/ the resolution on my tv.  :)
[07:03] <icedtea> Prinler: like VMWare or virtualbox
[07:03] <Prinler> Ok, i changed my ip to 1.155 and im still not able to hold a connection.
[07:03] <Prinler> No
[07:03] <Prinler> clean install
[07:03] <researcher1> how can default boot order be changed on a dual boot (Ubuntu & XP) system
[07:04] <icedtea> Prinler: the netmask's are the same for both boxes?
[07:04] <Prinler> 255.255.255.0
[07:04] <Prinler> yeah
[07:04] <sacarlson> Prinler: sounds alot like a network switch problem as I have had when I have setup the same mac on two machines,  but what's the chance of that?
[07:05] <Prinler> no
[07:05] <jrgill> maco: what did they do to x to eliminate the need for xorg.conf?  is it something fundamental you can describe in a sentence?
[07:05] <Prinler> I just did a clean install again to make sure it wasnt a flook.
[07:05] <icedtea> jrgill: better hardware probing
[07:05] <jrgill> oh
[07:05] <Prinler> perhaps the nic card has poor support?
[07:06] <icedtea> Prinler: both boxes can ping each other?
[07:06] <maco> jrgill: it gained the ability to ask the monitor "so, what resolutions & refresh rates do you support?" and just automatically try the highest.  granted, some monitors *lie* about what they support...and that's when you do what the wiki page says and add modes
[07:06] <sacarlson> Prinler: another small posibility is try set mtu to a smaller number like 512 instead of 1500 on the system that has the problem
[07:06] <costas> in debian and Ubuntu I suggest expert installs just in case to prevent mishaps...
[07:06] <Prinler> Ice, no not when it drops
[07:06] <poss_> ok, so I just reformatted the external drive on a windows box, its working on the windows box and on my ubuntu 10.10 laptop  now im going to try partitioning the 250gb to do an alongside install of 10.04 allongside 9.10  and see if that works
[07:07] <Arney> bazhang: I disabled the splash screen command on the installer, It seems to be throwing loads of squashFS read errors
[07:07] <Prinler> I cant ping the box
[07:07] <jrgill> maco: are we talking support for edid?
[07:07] <maco> jrgill: yep
[07:07] <jrgill> is there a command to easily pull edid?  id like to see what this tv says.
[07:07] <sacarlson> Prinler: as seen here try change the mtu to 512 or maybe 1492 http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mtu.htm
[07:08] <maco> jrgill: umm... if you type `xrandr` all by itself it'll tell you what X has available to it
[07:08] <poss_> the partition worked, the install is now working as normal
[07:08] <costas> Arney, usb stick installs are fine by me but I prefer a DVD with a stable version...
[07:08] <Prinler> ok I can ping them now... had to redo cable again.!!!
[07:08] <maco> jrgill: ive never looked for a more "raw" way though
[07:08] <Arney> costas: my laptop doesnt have a cd rom drive
[07:08] <jrgill> ya thats what i was hoping for
[07:08] <sacarlson> Prinler:  I've had this problem with zyxel routers that my isp didn't like for reasons unknown to me setting a smaller mtu fixed it
[07:09] <costas> Arney, you could buy an external DVD-R
[07:09] <costas> cheap...
[07:09] <Arney> I have never had the need
[07:09] <jrgill> i have a very stubborn philips hdtv crt and it says it does 720p and 1080i but ive had no luck in windows w/ powerstrip.
[07:09] <robertzaccour> can i install ubuntu on my htc evo shift?
[07:09] <jrgill> also, all these things HDMI1 DP1 HDMI2 DP2 DP3 TV1 all disconnected, do they actually exist and just dont have ports on my laptop?
[07:09] <sacarlson> Prinler: can you try run wireshark to see trafic on the system?  or tcpdump?
[07:10] <Prinler> Everything was working fine on my P4 an hour ago.. I just installed 10.10 on this box and a few VNC tries later... network is crapping out
[07:10] <costas> ok, but you should let us know the errors you get while installing from the stick, in order to help ya out
[07:10] <poss_> the install is now frozen at %10
[07:10] <mycosys> vidia wouldnt happen to have introduced persistant overclocking in their linux drivers would they, or a method to overclock via cli?
[07:11] <icedtea> mycosys: try #nvidia
[07:11] <poss_> despite the checksum passes I am now convinced it must be an error with the live CD, I am torrenting a new one
[07:11] <n2diy_> my back up box and printer are downstairs, the printer has an SD card in it that I want a file off of, can I ftp to it? Using gftp I've looked for the printer under /mnt, /mount, and /dev, but I can't find it?
[07:11] <Prinler> its letting me in via ssh ... how weird.. longer then last time
[07:11] <Prinler> installing wireshark
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> n2diy_: does the SD share via ftp?
[07:11] <Prinler> I also have an infinite ping going to the router to!
[07:11] <icedtea> Prinler: maybe a bad ethernet cable?
[07:11] <costas> poss, I will get my local exorcist to assist you... 8-D
[07:12] <Arney> costas: I got a welcome to ubuntu message on the shell, but its not going anywhere from there, I disabled the installation splash screen
[07:12] <mycosys> lol icedtea - would have thought more would know here
[07:12] <_jesse_> n2diy_: I don't know if the system would have that mounted
[07:12] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip, I don't understand your question?
[07:12] <Prinler> icetea, doubtfull, worked 100% on other machines only hours ago
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> n2diy_: is the way to access the SD card on the printer via FTP?
[07:12] <_jesse_> n2diy_: might be something the printer deals with interanlly
[07:12] <_jesse_> *internally
[07:13] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip, I don't know, the printer is shared on the network.
[07:13] <costas> Arney, the installation errors exactly?
[07:13] <sacarlson> Prinler: if ping keeps it up that points more to the switch problem if it see's the mac from a different port it would redirect trafic to that port.  but if you keep ping going each time it sees output with that mac it will fix it
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> n2diy_: fine, thats the printer. I suggest you SSH to the server and run: mount    it may show
[07:14] <Arney> costas: through the shell they are mostly "SQASHFS error: unable to read data/page
[07:14] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip,  I'm using ssh2 with grsync
[07:14] <Prinler> soon as i tried VNC, it stopped working
[07:15] <sacarlson> Prinler: you could easily try change your mac address with macchanger to verify http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/macchanger
[07:15] <n2diy_> _jesse_, roger on the printer and box talking private to each other.
[07:15] <icedtea> Prinler: someone here suggested wireshark, or tcpdump, I second that
[07:15] <Prinler> Its not anything other then my machine guys, gimme a freaking break.
[07:15] <costas> Arney, I'm looking for a solution...
[07:16] <Prinler> I can see the mac addresses in my router
[07:16] <_jesse_> n2diy_: mmm so if you ssh into the server you can get at the sdcard?
[07:16] <Prinler> they are all different
[07:16] <poss_> is this link working for anyone else? http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:16] <poss_> i get 404
[07:16] <Gwar_Trolle> yup
[07:16] <_jesse_> poss_: me too
[07:16] <Gwar_Trolle> 404
[07:16] <KB1JWQ> 10.04.2 is out
[07:16] <icedtea> Prinler: the ip addresses of all the connected boxes are different too right?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> n2diy_: that is moot, if you ssh to the system hosting the printer, do you see the SD card mounted at all?
[07:16] <Prinler> yes
[07:16] <n2diy_> _jesse_, I don't know, I just sshed into it now.
[07:17] <Raj007> Question - Are there any PPA with pre-compiled latest kernels for 10.10? (instead of 2.6.35-xx) ?
[07:17] <poss_> do you have a torrent link for it KB1JWQ?
[07:17] <sacarlson> Prinler: are all the mac address different also?
[07:17] <Prinler> As soon as something tried to get INTO the box it closes the nic from traffic
[07:17] <Prinler> yes all different
[07:17] <bazhang> Raj007,check the ppa search page
[07:17] <Prinler> sacarlson, i can see them all in my router
[07:17] <icedtea> dennys: I'd like a grand slam with whole wheat pancakes, eggwhites, turkey bacon, and granola
[07:17] <mycosys> raj007 - just enable updates and backports repos
[07:17] <costas> Arney, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors
[07:17] <bazhang> icedtea,?
[07:17] <Raj007> bazhang, where would that be?
[07:18] <alex_> will  a Midern Computer Inc. Recovery DVD-ROM for Windows 7 home Premium allow me to create a VM in oracle virtualBox?
[07:18] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip, no, it doesn't show up with "mount"
[07:18] <_jesse_> poss_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.2/
[07:18] <alex_> it seems like it just hangs whenever i specify the drive
[07:18] <Raj007> mycosys: latest on those is still 2.6.35-xx.
[07:18] <Prinler> Lemme look for a nic card or wireless adapter. AFK a few
[07:18] <bazhang> Raj007,ppa search  first link
[07:18] <Raj007> just curious to try the newer one.
[07:18] <poss_> thankyou _jesse_
[07:18] <sacarlson> Prinler: well there had to be input trafic for ssh that you said worked,  so maybe the packet size for vnc is biger than ssh?  mtu?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> n2diy_: ok then pull the sd card out, then wait a little then shove it back in and run:  dmesg | tail -n 15     has the OS reacted?
[07:18] <costas> Arney you there?
[07:19] <Arney> yes
[07:19] <costas> did you read the solutions above?
[07:19] <icedtea> bazhang: "dennys" is a restaraunt famous for there breakfasts here. They have one dubbed "the grand slam" pancakes and eggs and such
[07:19] <Arney> costas: I am looking at them, mostly what we have already tried.. im trying again with a 64bit image
[07:19] <sacarlson> Prinler: mtu = max transmition unit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
[07:20] <costas> ok man, good luck...
[07:20] <bazhang> icedtea,I know. not ontopic for here though
[07:20] <costas> Arney, do try those: Temporary Workarounds
[07:20] <costas> Some users have reported that adding the ide=nodma or acpi=off allowed them to work around this issue (which proved to be bad memory modules). You might want to give that a try
[07:20] <costas> Successful boot was achieved by adding "all_generic_ide" to the grub boot line for the live CD.
[07:20] <costas> Add to the kernel line:
[07:20] <costas> ide=nodma acpi=off
[07:20] <FloodBot2> costas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <Senjai[coding]> harsh..
[07:21] <icedtea> bazhang: You need to lighten up
[07:21] <Arney> hey, did He just get muted
[07:21] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip, I went downstairs and ran mount there, and it shows up.
[07:21] <costas> yep
[07:21] <bazhang> icedtea,you need to stay on topic
[07:22] <Senjai[coding]> Everyone calm down. bazhang, it's not like he diverted or distracted the discussion, like it is now.
[07:22] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip, Now it shows up from up here?
[07:23] <alex_> hrm. i just installed Java runtime in the software manager.  I go and try to use an applet and it says "no Java detected"
[07:23] <alex_> firefox crashes flash when i try to switch to fullscreen.. Oracle virtual box hangs
[07:23] <alex_> is it time to uninstall ubuntu :(
[07:23] <Senjai[coding]> !java | alex_
[07:23] <n2diy_> ActionParsnip, And now it is showing up with gftp? Gremlins?
[07:23] <bazhang> alex_,did you enable the partner repo to install?
[07:23] <Senjai[coding]> I don't know about mozilla, I usechrome, flash only crashes occasionaly
[07:24] <Arney> costas: still got the unknown user error
[07:24] <Schuldig> Thnx, for your vid., i learned a lot more about Fedora and it is far too advanced for me to just jump into. That said: i have a tecra 8200 with Pentium III 847.4 MHz  L1Cache 16k 7920MB/s L2Cache 256K 3606 MB/s and a chipset Intel i815. i got all this info by-way of a Memory test, plus i DO NOT have a OS on my laptop at all, so if i let it run through its course w/o pushing F2 it ask for old win. OS disk. plz can you or anyone dire
[07:24] <icedtea> Prinler: why are you so against using wireshark? Its been very helpful for diagnosing strange network or os problems with me before
[07:24] <alex_> i installed the openJDK stuff
[07:24] <alex_> it says "no Java detected" still
[07:25] <bazhang> alex_,wait this in a vm? how much ram did you give for the vm
[07:25] <researcher1> how to change default boot system among XP & Ubuntu on a dual boot system?
[07:25] <bazhang> alex_,then enable partner and install from there
[07:25] <chovynz> Schuldig: You'll need to continue typing, your last message got lost.
[07:25] <Prinler> its installing
[07:25] <bazhang> !partner | alex_
[07:25] <alex_> bazhang.  I'm not even able to set up the VM using a Windows boot DVD
[07:25] <Schuldig> Thnx, for your vid., i learned a lot more about Fedora and it is far too advanced for me to just jump into. That said: i have a tecra 8200 with Pentium III 847.4 MHz  L1Cache 16k 7920MB/s L2Cache 256K 3606 MB/s and a chipset Intel i815. i got all this info by-way of a Memory test, plus i DO NOT have a OS on my laptop at all, so if i let it run through its course w/o pushing F2 it ask for old win. OS disk. plz can you or anyone dire
[07:26] <alex_> i specify the drive with the disk in it, then i see a prompt in virtual box and it hangs
[07:26] <Schuldig> h
[07:26] <chovynz> not, copy and paste, just carry on typing from "anyone direc"
[07:26] <sacarlson> Prinler: how can it install without a working network?
[07:26] <Schuldig> srry not sure how much you got
[07:26] <icedtea> researcher1: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:26] <bazhang> Schuldig,fedora?
[07:26] <chovynz> Schuldig: plz can you or anyone dire
[07:26] <Schuldig> yes
[07:26] <chovynz> that's the last we saw
[07:26] <n2diy__> Ok, I got my .bashrc file back, now how do I tell rsync to include hidden files when I sync my boxes?
[07:26] <icedtea> researcher1: maybe someone can pipe in with an easier route?
[07:27] <bazhang> Schuldig,you wish help for fedora or ubuntu
[07:27] <Skater> Hi I am running 10.10 and at one stage I could see my external drive. On my mac I am able to see it by connecting to smb://...... but I can't see it on 10.10. Any suggestions?
[07:27] <Schuldig> i have an fedora disk
[07:27] <Schuldig> i have no OS
[07:27] <chovynz> fedora != ubuntu :)
[07:27] <alex_> i set up the VM to give 1024 megabytes to the VM but it won't even in stall bazhang
[07:27] <bazhang> Schuldig,this is ubuntu support #fedora for fedora help
[07:28] <Schuldig> not the same?
[07:28] <chovynz> not teh same
[07:28] <bazhang> Schuldig,nope
[07:28] <Arney> costas: i tried unzipping! it says error extracting squashfs
[07:28] <bazhang> Schuldig,/join #fedora
[07:28] <Schuldig> ok thnx. is there a fedora room
[07:28] <Schuldig> ok
[07:28] <chovynz> good luck
[07:28] <Prinler> Im on wireless now. Gonna try some stuff
[07:29] <alex_> hrm. am I out of luck if i want to play new games? wine doesn't work with them
[07:30] <Arney> costas: winrar was able to eat it up no problem
[07:30] <alex_> or run .net programs using windows api on a windows 7 64 bit environment?
[07:30] <costas> Arney, did you try adding to the kernel the lines?
[07:30] <Prinler> ok im in ssh no issues
[07:30] <Arney> costas: yes to no avail... im not on an ide drive
[07:30] <Prinler> In winscp
[07:30] <icedtea> researcher1: here's a simpler explanation: http://www.ehow.com/how_2251661_edit-grub-menu-ubuntu.html
[07:31] <costas> you're going for a dual boot windows and ubuntu right?
[07:31] <amit> i want to make snaps in a slide way and want to add background songs which s/w should i to use?
[07:31] <costas> you could install from windows as well...
[07:31] <alex_> oh ok.  i need to find an image of a "legitimate" copy of windows :/
[07:31] <Prinler> Alright guys, It works 100% with my wireless card
[07:31] <alex_> apparently the oem cd won't work for booting up virtual box
[07:32] <Prinler^U> Nice job Prinler
[07:32] <Prinler> thanks prinler^u
[07:32] <costas> sorry for the delay Arney, I'm in my shop working while writing...
[07:32] <costas> Prinler, good job
[07:32] <uxingjie> hello
[07:32] <Frenk> Hello, when I do "sudo apt-get upgrade" there are some packages, which "have been kept back" - how to fix that?
[07:33] <costas> Frenk, do a "sudo apt-get clean"
[07:33] <amit> ????
[07:33] <costas> then "sudo apt-get update", then the "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:33] <Frenk> contas: still the same
[07:33] <Prinler> Well, i guess it doesnt like the nvidia nic. I have a Dlink i will try later... Now my next issue. I installed a new video card so it would support HDMI. I now have it hooked to my big screen tv. I have installed XBMC and would like to now run it on my TV. Can anyone help me configure this?
[07:33] <Prinler> Please :)
[07:34] <alex_> cool.  "No Java detected" after trying 2 different ways of installing Java
[07:34] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[07:34] <alex_> command prompt tells me that Java is there
[07:34] <alex_> when i type "java"
[07:34] <amit> i want to make video using my photo and also want to put background music or song.is there any s/w in ubuntu for this?
[07:34] <bazhang> alex_,which java
[07:34] <Frenk> contas: its still kept back
[07:34] <alex_> i don't know the one that will let me see the applet at http://www.goproblems.com/prob.php3
[07:35] <bazhang> alex_,did you read the bot links on java?
[07:35] <alex_> yes i read them...
[07:35] <costas> Frenk, I never got that kind of error, be specific, or wait for someone else to help man...
[07:35] <alex_> why would i try 2 ways of installing it otherwise
[07:35] <alex_> updating the repository and all that
[07:35] <bazhang> alex_,enabled the partner repo and installed the jre?
[07:35] <amit> !photoshop
[07:36] <ubuntu64bit> i don't know what exactly happened yesterday after i installed 10.10 64-bit ubuntu on this pc and got it working all but my wireless connection so next day i reinstalled to try get wireless up hmm still no connecton but more options that didn't show in the first install so i turned off my pc wireless router and turned it back on whaala now i see wireless connectivity maybe it was switch on/off that brought it back to life IDK just sha
[07:36] <ubuntu64bit> ring some info for other users
[07:36] <costas> amit, try Ubuntu studio it has all related apps inside...
[07:36] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[07:36] <alex_> bazhang you mean do the sudo update thing?
[07:36] <Arney> costas: It is clearly an issue with windows/7zip. filesystem.squashfs is failing to extract
[07:36] <alex_> and the sudo apt-get install thing?
[07:36] <alex_> yes i did those..
[07:36] <bazhang> amit,there is some software for that, I cant recall the name right now
[07:37] <Starminn> amit: Check "editors" maybe? http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/200807130419006/Video.html
[07:37] <Prinler> Anyone? Dual screen setup?
[07:37] <Arney> costas: I virtual CD mounted the image, tried copying the file to my desktop, windows gave me "invalid ms dos command"
[07:37] <bazhang> alex_,what was the command you used to add partner repo, please
[07:37] <bazhang> Prinler,with xrandr
[07:37] <silverlightning> so, Ubuntu Maverick is a resource hog, compared to XP SP3?
[07:37] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP-server. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[07:37] <Prinler> ok lemme google
[07:37] <alex_>      sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[07:37] <alex_> since you insist i can't follow directions
[07:38] <Tanvir> Hello, if I see a youtube video that suppose to be in my tmp directory know? And form there I can move that video to the place of my choice, no?
[07:38] <alex_> and i have to paste this again.
[07:38] <alex_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Sun%20Java%20moved%20to%20the%20Partner%20repository <--- look. this is what i followed.
[07:38] <bazhang> sun-java6- packages alex_?
[07:38] <costas> Arney, I'd hate to suggest Wubi but if you don't have an option try it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[07:38] <alex_> what?
[07:39] <Tanvir> And now, I cannot find the video in the /tmp directory, where is it then?
[07:39] <amit> thanx all of u guys!
[07:39] <costas> no problem amit
[07:39] <bazhang> Tanvir,saving online video? why not use the firefox plugin for that
[07:40] <alex_> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin <------- this installs java right? does it or not?
[07:40] <Tanvir> bazhang, which one?
[07:40] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP-server. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[07:40] <Prinler> bazhang, being an nvidia card with nvidia drivers shouldnt i use there configuration tool?
[07:40] <alex_> apparently firefox stilll gives me a message "no Java detected"
[07:40] <bazhang> Tanvir,video download helper firefox extension
[07:40] <bazhang> alex_,you restarted firefox? what does about:plugins  say
[07:40] <Tanvir> bazhang, okay, but I've a video now, which is finished downloaded, I don't know where is it.
[07:41] <Tanvir> That's the problem.
[07:41] <alex_> i restarted twice.. telling it to not remember my last session
[07:41] <alex_> i will try it again to see what is happening
[07:41] <alienbox> i just did a fresh install of 10.04 on a homebuilt machine that also runs windows xp, and in the windows session i get 20+mbps down from speedtest net, but when i try it in ubuntu i get like 1.5mbps down, is there something i need to edit in my network settings
[07:41] <bazhang> alex_,and what does about:plugins say
[07:41] <Gryllida> alienbox: you have to install java while firefox is closed
[07:42] <Gryllida> elricL: ^
[07:42] <Gryllida> crap
[07:42] <Gryllida> alex_: ^
[07:42] <bazhang> Gryllida,you mean alex_
[07:42] <Gryllida> yes, sorry
[07:42] <elricL> ha ha
[07:42] <alex_> oh ok. restarting a 3rd time did it.
[07:42] <bazhang> sorry elricL
[07:42] <alex_> i was beginning to think the Flash full screen hack
[07:42] <Gryllida> alex_: awesome
[07:42] <alex_> was causing trouble
[07:42] <bazhang> alex_,it works?
[07:42] <alex_> yes
[07:43] <alienbox> but i use opera
[07:44] <Tanvir> bazhang, can you help me on that?
[07:44] <Prinler> Ok, i set it as twin view and it just stretches the screen over both monitors... :(
[07:44] <Gryllida> alienbox: sorry! I just failed at tab completion this time
[07:44] <amit> costas: is there any single command to add more than one user at a time or group?
[07:44] <Prinler> The other option is seperate x window... having to reboot now
[07:45] <alienbox> infact my upload speed is faster than my download speed, never seen anything like it
[07:45] <amit> bazhang:is there any single command to add more than one user at a time or group?
[07:45] <k1rk> alienbox: that happens to me all the time because of network congestion at my ISP.  Rofl.
[07:46] <alienbox> yes, but i can go into windows, and test at speedtest.net and it gets 20mbps down, and 3.1 up
[07:47] <Prinler> Shoot! I rebooted and now the xserver has crashed. Is there like a safe mode i can fix this with?
[07:47] <alienbox> in ubuntu i'm getting 1.5 down and 2.7 or so up
[07:47] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP-server. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[07:50] <shadghost> Any one here willing to answer a question about diff?
[07:50] <Prinler> Wow alot of issues with xserver out there on google
[07:51] <freepenguin0> hi
[07:52] <shadghost> I have two diffrent files filed with 2k+ lines of hash space file location, (so like 5adf5awe6f4awe65f4aw ./tmpfold/expamplefile) and i am comparing the two with diff, so i want the full line in what changed, like -y but with out all the extra lines of what was not changed
[07:52] <rand_u> i need to recompile the virtualbox-ose kernel modules for my kernel so i can use host only networking. i don't have the purl edition.  how do i do this?
[07:52] <freepenguin0> since yesterday if I lock the screen and then i try to unlock it inserting the password the screen remains locked although the password is correct
[07:52] <freepenguin0> why?^
[07:54] <freepenguin0> P
[07:54] <freepenguin0> ?
[07:54] <icedtea> rand_u: the simplest way would be to use ubuntu's virtualbox, that should include all the modules you need
[07:54] <costas> is now eating...........
[07:55] <rand_u> icedtea: i must be missing something... apt-get install virtualbox-ose should be ubuntu's version
[07:56] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP-server. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[07:57] <icedtea> rand_u: did you download the virtualbox-ose-dkms package too?
[07:57] <alienbox> this is really freaking me out, i have a laptop next to me using 10.10 and a windows laptop on win7, my sons computer in the other room, and my droidx here, all testing on speedtest.net getting atleast 15 to 20mbps, however this machine i just built with 10.04 on it gets 1.5mbps down, but if i got into windows it gets like close to 20mpbs, it makes no since to me, but i googled and others have had same problem, anyone know of the sol
[07:57] <rand_u> icedtea yes
[07:57] <icedtea> rand_u: I could have sworn ubuntu did all this work for me , but I am not 100% positive
[07:57] <Prinler> xserver failed - no screens found
[07:57] <Skater> Hi I am running 10.10 and at one stage I could see my external drive. On my mac I am able to see it by connecting to smb://...... but I can't see it on 10.10. Any suggestions?
[07:57] <rand_u> icedtea: it probably did. i upgraded the kernel though.
[07:58] <UbuN2> best to use virtualbox deb package
[07:58] <UbuN2> from there site
[07:58] <alex_> hrm
[07:58] <rand_u> i can't use the non-free version
[07:58] <UbuN2> its more up to date
[07:58] <alex_> does the repository have a windows 7 professional iso somewhere :p
[07:58] <alex_> i have the key..
[07:59] <andycc> alex_, probably not if you're talking about what I think you're talking.
[07:59] <alex_> what is that?
[07:59] <UbuN2> rand_u,  its just click and install
[07:59] <Prinler> installing windows?
[07:59] <alex_> yes prinler. i lost the professional DVD
[07:59] <bazhang> alex_, of course not. Piracy is off topic on freenode
[07:59] <alex_> all i have are oem stuff
[07:59] <rand_u> UbuN2 not because i can't click...
[07:59] <alex_> i'm not pirating anything
[07:59] <andycc> alex_, did you just ask if the *Ubuntu* repositories contain a *Windows* ISO?
[07:59] <alex_> i got the actual key from MSDNAA Elms
[07:59] <alex_> it was a joke
[07:59] <bazhang> alex_, nonetheless stop asking
[08:00] <UbuN2> something wrong with ur mouse rand_u ?
[08:00] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP-server. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[08:00] <alex_> but yea i have to find the image that's not oem
[08:00] <Abinadi> I have windows vista 64 bit ultimate and it works fine in a VirtulaBox
[08:00] <rand_u> alex_ it does contain windows xserver-xorg
[08:00] <icedtea> rand_u: I'm doing some research give me a second
[08:01] <alex_> heh all i have is oem and i have an upgrade key for windows 7 but it won't install so i'll just ask my coworker for a windows 7 professional iso on tuesday
[08:01] <rand_u> UbuN2 is that suppose to be funny? i just stated why i can't use it.
[08:01] <rand_u> icedtea: thanks
[08:01] <UbuN2> nope
[08:01] <nagel182> hello I need help with LAMP-server. two days ago I installed it with imagick and with the rewrite apache mod. Yesterday I installed two other apache mod and xdebug Now imagick and mod rewrite refuses to work in one of my /var/www folder
[08:02] <icedtea> nagel182: are you a bot or a human being?
[08:02] <sgtmattbaker> I connected to a website by accident that looks like it has been hacked. I wasnt trying to sign in to another one or anything. Could anything have happened?
[08:02] <rand_u> UbuN2: ok, i can't use that particular version because it doesn't have the source code available to it. it's is "non-free".
[08:02] <nagel182> human.
[08:02] <nagel182> i'm just desperate
[08:02] <poqw> google?
[08:02] <alex_> sgtmattbaker, they could've phished ur user name and password
[08:02] <sgtmattbaker> I said I didnt enter anything
[08:02] <UbuN2> strange
[08:02] <sgtmattbaker> the website just popped up
[08:02] <costas> nagel182, is a copy paste humanoid? know about sources building etc?
[08:03] <Abinadi> sgtmattbaker: I doubt it if you logged in while you were in ubuntu
[08:03] <nagel182> yes I copy pase becouse I'm on 6 channels and no one answers me nor react...
[08:03] <mylisto> hey folks
[08:03] <sirsargento> Does anybody have an idea why in the 'computer' folder when i goto the properties of my dvd drive and filesystem it has no information and says the location is computer:/// ?
[08:03] <alex_> sgtmattbaker, u could've been cross-site scripted
[08:03] <mylisto> for some reason my sound cuts out once in a while...
[08:04] <alex_> if you were logged into some other site
[08:04] <mylisto> are there any ways to find out why?
[08:04] <alienbox> is ipv6 method suppose to be set to ignore in network connections, in ubuntu 10.04?
[08:04] <nagel182> so someone could say what the hel is wrong with my server?
[08:05] <andycc> alienbox, I believe you get a separate tab for v6 settings, and by default they're disabled.
[08:05] <Abinadi> !details | nagel182
[08:05] <andycc> alienbox, do you have net speed problems?
[08:05] <poqw> nagel182: thats because "refuses to work" is too vague
[08:05] <alienbox> only in ubuntu 10.04
[08:06] <andycc> alienbox, tried changing DNS servers?
[08:06] <alienbox> on this same machine i can go into windows and get fast speed results
[08:06] <alienbox> i'm behind a router on all the machines
[08:07] <alienbox> it's on dhcp auto assign by isp, i even tried changing those to googles 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and got same results
[08:07] <ugmg> hi, how can i remove apt-get of my system
[08:07] <Abinadi> alienbox: are you using Firefox?
[08:07] <rww> ugmg: You want to get rid of apt-get?
[08:07] <icedtea> rand_u: did you try dpkg-reconfigure and the package name?
[08:08] <alienbox> i am at the moment, but i just tested in opera and got near same results
[08:08] <ugmg> yes from ubuntu  server
[08:08] <andycc> ugmg: why in the world would you want to remove apt-get?
[08:08] <rand_u> icedtea: yea- was one of the first things i tried. also tried purge / reinstall and it didn't work either.
[08:08] <ugmg> wrong installation
[08:08] <rww> what
[08:08] <Abinadi> alienbox: go to about:config in firefox and disable IPv6
[08:09] <ugmg> i like to reinstall apt-get package
[08:09] <sgtmattbaker> alex_ what do you mean? I clicked on a web link, and the site came up and it said it had been hacked by some group
[08:09] <mylisto> I'm trying to find out why my sound cuts out once in a while...
[08:09] <mylisto> are there any terminal commands to find out why?
[08:09] <ugmg> andycc,
[08:09] <alienbox> Abinadi, like network.dns.disableIPv6 = true or something
[08:10] <Abinadi> alienbox: yes
[08:10] <ugmg> any help with apt-get removing
[08:10] <ugmg> any one know how to do it
[08:11] <icedtea> rand_u: from the site: Note: Ubuntu/Debian users might want to install the dkms package to ensure that the VirtualBox host kernel modules (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt and vboxnetadp) are properly updated if the linux kernel version changes during the next apt-get upgrade. For Debian it is available in Lenny backports and in the normal repository for Squeeze and later. The dkms package can be installed through the Synaptic Package manage
[08:11] <icedtea> r or through the following command: sudo apt-get install dkms
[08:11] <Abinadi> alienbox: there is a website that has about 20 tweaks for firefox, but Im in windows right now.  give me a few minutes and I'll tell you what it is.
[08:11] <andycc> mylisto, take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:11] <icedtea> rand_u: did you compile your own kernel or just apt-get'd a new one?
[08:12] <rand_u> icedtea: i apt-get install 2.6.35-12-generic
[08:12] <rand_u> linux-image of course
[08:12] <icedtea> rand_u: do you have the dkms package installed too?
[08:13] <ugmg> any suggestion of how can i get rid of apt-get package
[08:13] <mylisto> damn andycc: thats a lot of reading :(
[08:13] <mylisto> is there any terminal command to find out what sound system i have running?
[08:13] <icedtea> mylisto: you mean what sound card you are using?
[08:13] <nagel182> Okay. I have ubuntu 10.10. I installed apache2 Php mysql and phpmyadmin through the package handler. it worked after that I instaled Imagemagick , and imagick for PHP. than I installed mod_rewrite for appache2. I created a folder in /var/www/ called shimmie. I copied there my codes and  after setting up htaccess it worked fine.  url rewrite worked. thumbnails with imagick appeared along with normal images. Yesterday  I got another webpage
[08:13] <nagel182>  project. but it required apache mod_ expires and mod_headers and installed it. And installed Xdebug for PHP.  after this I put  the  webpage to another /var/www/ folder called fashion. Now in fashion everything works as its needs to: url rewrite , expires.. everything. But now my original folder shimmi, doesnt works: no url rewrite, no imagick thumbnails nor the original image shows up.
[08:13] <andycc> mylisto, you're probably using ALSA, except if you manually configured OSS.
[08:14] <rand_u> icedtea: i'm not sure what you mean. i do have virtualbox-ose-dkms installed
[08:14] <toloykhan> hello I need to add a file to init.d directory but it did not work when i copy it from /usr/bin to init.d what should I do to make my file work on start up
[08:14] <rand_u> icedtea: i just noticed i don't have the headers installed for the running kernel
[08:14] <rand_u> icedtea: maybe that will solve the issue if i install them and purge and then reinstall
[08:15] <andycc> mylisto, reading that is way better than reading manpages. At least you get documentation!
[08:15] <nagel182> now someone can help me?
[08:15] <rand_u> icedtea: i think it has to compile it for the kernel. i don't think it just has them when you install the dkms package.
[08:16] <rand_u> icedtea: i have build-essential installed too
[08:16] <andycc> nagel182, in the meantime, you may want to post that to the ubuntu forums.
[08:17] <ugmg> h o w   can i r e m o v e   apt-get package
[08:17] <ugmg> helppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[08:17] <k1rk> nagel182: sounds like it might be file permissions issues if you didn't remove those packages\extensions.
[08:17] <debuntu> try synaptic package manager
[08:17] <k1rk> nagel182: can you access anything in the folder at all?
[08:17] <amit> i subuntu studio an OS?
[08:18] <amit> sorry ubuntu studio
[08:18] <andycc> ugmg, dpkg -r apt-get, probably.
[08:18] <amit> !ubuntu studio
[08:18] <rand_u> icedtea: you know what. it looks like i can use the virtualbox.org repository. they got rid of the non-free edition.
[08:18] <nagel182> yes i can. the owner is ww-root and everyone can read write it
[08:18] <jayvan> i need help, did someone manage to play the log out sound in Lucid?
[08:18] <toloykhan> hello I need to add a file to init.d directory but it did not work when i copy it from /usr/bin to init.d what should I do to make my file work on start up
[08:18] <rand_u> icedtea: that might work. i don't know if /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup is in that or not... it wasn't with the older gpl edition
[08:19] <Senjai> Is there any significance to the init.d directory? I know apache runs in it, but is it a system path or something?
[08:19] <pretendo> etendo> getting lua5.1 missing but ive installed it
[08:19] <pretendo>  No package 'lua5.1' found
[08:20] <icedtea> rand_u: I'm not sure, but it works on my system, I just upgraded my distro though so I'm going to reboot and see if it works
[08:20] <icedtea> rand_u: brb
[08:20] <Abinadi> alienbox, here is the link:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/speed-up-firefox-web-browser.html
[08:20] <nagel182> k1rk: yes i can. the owner is www-root. and everyone can read it and write it.
[08:21] <Arney> bazhang: How bad is the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[08:22] <bazhang> Arney, not bad at all?
[08:22] <Arney> bazhang: since currently the i366 version has a corrupt filesystem.squashfs file and wont install into anything but a CD
[08:22] <Arney> bazhang: so I should install that instead? it seems to work boot perfectly into installation
[08:22] <bazhang> Arney, thats a corrupt iso, not something inherent in the ubuntu iso
[08:23] <Arney> bazhang: nope, redownloaded 3 times, its a corrupt ubuntu iso
[08:23] <Abinadi> Arney, I've been using the 64 bit version for some time now and it works fine
[08:23] <bazhang> Arney, better bet would be to use the alternate installer
[08:23] <Arney> bazhang: try extracting using 7zip, see what i mean
[08:23] <bazhang> Arney, oh wait this is for unetbootin
[08:23] <Senjai> Hey guys, when I load Ubuntu, I see my windows harddrive under Places, and have to click on the hard drive to mount the files and be able to view them. Question is: how can I do this via the command line?
[08:23] <alex_> Why are open source proponents so defensive when you point out that documentation is lacking?
[08:23] <chasr>     /msg nickserv set hidemail on
[08:24] <greppy> !ot | alex_
[08:24] <bazhang> alex_, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:24] <alex_> i go to hadoop and say "there's something wrong witht he docs" and soon the conversation quickly changes to "if you dont' like it, don't use it"
[08:24] <Arney> bazhang: if you do it with something else, compare the size its suppsed to be, with the size it is
[08:24] <trijntje> Senjai, with the  command mount, see man mount
[08:25] <trijntje> or you can let it mount automatically
[08:25] <jrgill> i want a raw edid.  how can i get it?
[08:25] <anak_kos> #surabaya
[08:26] <toloykhan>  hello I have a problem with adding a file with +x privilege to init.d directory but when I copy it from /usr/bin to init.d it did not work on startup i use ubuntu 10.04
[08:29] <Senjai> trijntje, I looked at the ma command
[08:30] <Senjai> trijntje, but i don't know where my Windows harddrive is located
[08:30] <Arney> whats bad about the netbook edition?
[08:31] <simon__> #ubuntu-cn
[08:31] <sgtmattbaker> does anyone in here know about ubuntu sound issues? My sound with a soundblaster audigy 4 didnt work out of the box (10.10)
[08:31] <Senjai> simon__, /join #ubuntu-cn might be what your looking for
[08:32] <rand_u> Senjai: it might be in the trash
[08:32] <Senjai> rand_u, is that a joke? I can't tell
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Arney: My guess is that your flash drive is going bad.
[08:33] <toloykhan> hello I need to put a file with +x privilege in init.d directory but it did not work when i copy it form /usr/bin to init.d i use ubuntu 10.04
[08:33] <rand_u> Senjai: yes
[08:33] <icedtea> rand_u: hrm looks like it didn't work for me either. I just upgraded to 11.whatever and its complaining about needing the drivers recompiled
[08:34] <Arney> Jordan_U: I am having problems handling the filesystem.squashfs file on windows!
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Arney: What do you mean by "handling"? What type of problems?
[08:35] <rand_u> icedtea: i'm trying virtualbox-4 from oracle's virtualbox.org site. they divided the free and non-free parts now so that the non-free is an extension. that's awesome cause now hopefully it'll get upgraded as updates become available. although i don't know if that will happen for sure. it would probably depend on how they have it in the repository.
[08:35] <Arney> you could say that all 3 i386 iso's were bad, that 7-zip and winrar are both wrong about the error on the file. But is that reasonable
[08:35] <Arney> Jordan_U: I cant copy the file out of the mounted cd image on windows
[08:36] <icedtea> rand_u: think I will too
[08:36] <Arney> Jordan_U: the netbook and 64 bit versions dont have that problem
[08:36] <sgtmattbaker> I have a soundblaster audigy 4. The sound doesnt not work out of the box with Ubuntu 10.10
[08:37] <Jordan_U> Arney: What is the md5sum of the iso?
[08:37] <Arney> Jordan_U: It could be a cache on my university internet thats messing up
[08:37] <sgtmattbaker> It also doesnt work for GF104 HDMI audio from a GTX 460.
[08:37] <Arney> Jordan_U: let me get that
[08:37] <^Phantom^> well no more fretting about what distro and flavor for my laptop guys.
[08:37] <intok> is there a build of 10.10 that will run on a Mac G4?
[08:37] <^Phantom^> I bought the new ram
[08:37] <^Phantom^> ^_^
[08:38] <Jordan_U> intok: There is a community supported PPC port of Ubuntu which should work.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> !ppc | intok
[08:38] <sgtmattbaker> Macs are x86, just like PCs
[08:38] <sgtmattbaker> I dont see why regular ubuntu wouldnt work
[08:38] <Jordan_U> sgtmattbaker: Not G4s.
[08:38] <sgtmattbaker> ooooooh
[08:39] <sgtmattbaker> G4s
[08:39] <sgtmattbaker> nevermind
[08:39] <sgtmattbaker> well, yep, PPC is what ya need
[08:39] <Arney> Jordan_U: 8C1D1ED6C6B65445CE39257A8DDD99EF
[08:40] <tuttincoro> Hi. Is there an app similar to reconstructor? I tried the official homepage but they're asking for money
[08:40] <jayvan> does anybody know how to enable Trash and log out sound in lucid? please? : )
[08:41] <intok> Great, since Debian Squeeze has not been kind to this old box
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Arney: That md5sum produced no results from google. Which is a pretty sure sign that it's corrupted somehow, and that you are one of very few (more likely the only one) with this particular corrupt iso.
[08:42] <bazhang> tuttincoro, ubuntu customization kit? remastersys? not sure what reconstructor does, sorry
[08:42] <kutchbhi1> i had dualboot xp and ubuntu , i created a new partition in windows) and got an error upon reboot. was this because of adding a new partition in windows?
[08:42] <Arney> Jordan_U: My hash is wrong... Ill have to blame it on my university
[08:42] <ljsoftnet> what a good laptop battery panel? aside from indicator applet
[08:42] <ljsoftnet> what a good laptop battery applet? aside from indicator applet
[08:42] <Arney> Jordan_U: ill try an ftp download
[08:43] <ohsix> what's a good one besides the good one? D:
[08:43] <tuttincoro> kutchbhi1: yes
[08:43] <tuttincoro> kutchbhi1: ext partitions don't play nicely with ntfs
[08:43] <Sam_Fisher> I need to make a file named PMS.sh into a nice desktop launcher. It will work the day I make it then stop working. Perhaps after a reboot or something.
[08:43] <kutchbhi1> tuttincoro: ok thanks
[08:43] <rand_u> Arney: never get educated. you only get stupider.
[08:43] <tuttincoro> kutchbhi1: if you want to dualboot windows and linux, rather use wubi
gkrellm
[08:44] <Jordan_U> kutchbhi1: What error? Adding a partition in Windows should not cause any problems in and of itself.
[08:44] <Arney> does anyone have an ftp link to ubuntu
[08:45] <Arney> its mighty hard to find on google
[08:45] <jayvan> Tuttincoro, wubi is not as good as the real thing. If you want to dual boot install window first then Ubuntu. best option for me.
[08:45] <ljsoftnet> insmod: im looling for a gnome applet
[08:45] <tuttincoro> Jordan_U: I've had the same problem when attempting to mix ntfs and ext partitions on the same drive
[08:45] <Jordan_U> tuttincoro: That problem being?
[08:45] <tuttincoro> Jordan_U: the nfts is unbootable
why just gnome?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> tuttincoro: That is not what tuttincoro is describing. At least it does not appear to be.
[08:47] <Abinadi> I'm using
[08:47] <ljsoftnet> insmod it takes too much space, i just wanted to have a simple battery applet
[08:47] <Sam_Fisher> I need to make a file named PMS.sh into a nice desktop launcher. how can i keep it working after reboot? seems it requires password to use again
[08:47] <Jordan_U> tuttincoro: What *kutchbhi1 was describing.
only if after the fact or depending on drive lettering
[08:48] <tuttincoro> Jordan_U: hmmm, okay, he needs to clarify then
[08:48] <Arney> nvm, i found one by url hacking ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/maverick/
[08:48] <tuttincoro> insmod: after the fact. Ran the ubuntu install, resized the partitions there, tried to boot into windows later and couldn't
[08:49] <Arney> google is absolutely terrible at finding ftp sites
[08:49] <Abinadi> I'm using windows vista 64 ultimate in a virtualbox.  I currently have no sound, even though I installed the right codec (it tells me that I have no device installed)  I have sound in maverick.  any ideas on how to get windows to use my sound card in while I have the virtualbox running?
[08:49] <tuttincoro> Arney: try duckduckgo
[08:49] <tuttincoro> Arney: far better than google imho
you both have a drive lettering prob
[08:50] <tuttincoro> insmod: no; I later put the drive in two other PCs, one running windows and the other running ubuntu, and neither could see the ntfs partition
[08:50] <przemasu> witam/hi
[08:50] <tuttincoro> insmod: it was "active"
[08:51] <Sam_Fisher> How do I make a desktop launcher out of a file named PMS.sh?
 then the partition was damaged because you did not defrag
[08:52] <Senjai> How come when I save something to my mounted Windows Partition, it doesn't show up when I load Windows :(
[08:52] <Senjai> Save from ubuntu..
[08:52] <tuttincoro> insmod: nope, I defragged right before I did the install, even used jk
[08:52] <Abinadi> tuttincoro, I have two NTFS partitions on two different HDD and I can see one but not the other.  go figure
 all i can think is the partition name changed
[08:53] <tuttincoro> insmod: the Linux formating and disk reading gets wonky sometimes
[08:53] <tuttincoro> It's not hard to accept
 never
[08:53] <tuttincoro> haha, yeah right
you just don't know what you are doing
[08:54] <tuttincoro> uh huh
[08:54] <tuttincoro> but if it was windows that busted the partition, you'd totally blame microsoft, amirite?
no - i have never used it .. so i can not comment on it -- however my brother tells me he likes 7
[08:55] <tuttincoro> I bet
linux and bsd solaris since 1995 university -- i did have windows 3.1 for 6 months
[08:57] <przemasu> I've got a problem. I'm using Ubuntu with TV. My screen in turning off after 10 minutes. How to set Ubuntu to not turning off TV screen? I tried in gconf-editor and power management. I'm using SAMSUNG CRT TV and computer is connected by s-video. I tried to check BIOS, but there options are OK Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Poland
[08:57] <ohsix> look in the power options
turn off power management blank screen
[08:57] <przemasu> i set everything "Never"
[08:57] <SimonPHOENIX> somebody here is using computer like this ??? czy ktos tutaj uzywa Alienware M17X10 ? czegos takiego ? http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m17x/pd?refid=laptop-alienware-m17x&s=dhs&cs=19&~ck=mn
[08:58] <SimonPHOENIX> sorry
[08:58] <SimonPHOENIX> should be only in english
[08:58] <przemasu> allright i will check later black screen
[08:59] <przemasu> but i've to go
[08:59] <przemasu> bye
[08:59] <fixman> hello. i have problem. http://img703.imageshack.us/i/snapshot1rx.png/ ant the bottom of the screenshot the panel is soooooooooooo small that i can't really use it. how can i expend it?
click it then a dialog comes up to resize
[09:01] <Sam_Fisher> fixman, I guess you tried bodybuilding and that didn't make it bigger?
[09:02] <Abinadi> maybe some of you linux gurus can tell me this....I've got pulseaudio installed on maverick and it works fine.  i've got windows vista 64 bit installed in a virtualbox.  Control panel in windows tells me that my audio device is working and installed correctly.  However, I cannot get sound out of the virtual box.  any hints?
[09:02] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: please don't offer silly advice
killall -9  puseaudio
killall -9  pulseaudio
[09:02] <fixman> not fonney, samfisher. insmod, thanks
that is how
[09:03] <Abinadi> insmod, ok I'll try that, but just in case, how do I get pulseadio working again if it doesn't work?
[09:04] <abhinav_singh> i am getting this error when I am upgrading to 10.10 from 10.04 please help me how to fix it ...http://pastebin.com/3F0hJtW2
[09:04] <Sam_Fisher> okay I will stop looking for the answer for fixman.  best of luck
[09:04] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: how are you upgradeing to 10.10
[09:05] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: that doesn't look like a 10.10 upgrade
type pulseadio or use an app that uses it and it will reload
[09:05] <abhinav_singh> ikonia from update manager
[09:05] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: how are you launching it ?
[09:05] <Abinadi> insmod, thanks
cheers
[09:06] <abhinav_singh> ikonia via update manager
[09:06] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: how are you launching update manager
[09:06] <abhinav_singh> ikonia System->Administration->Update Manager
[09:06] <Sam_Fisher> I need to make a file named PMS.sh into a nice desktop launcher. It will work the day I make it then stop working. Perhaps after a reboot or something.
[09:07] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: define stop working
[09:07] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: that looks like it's trying to update to 11.04
[09:07] <jrgill> i want a raw edid.  how can i get it?
[09:07] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: can we do a quick test please.
[09:08] <abhinav_singh> ikonia which test
[09:08] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: can you please open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update"
[09:08] <abhinav_singh> okay ikonia
[09:09] <abhinav_singh> done ikonia
 apt-get autoremove && apt-get lean && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[09:09] <lalla> unable to operate with livecd even...encoutered with missing operating system problem
 apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[09:09] <insmod> sorry typo
[09:09] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: ok, did that scroll through the 10.04 updates and not complain about anything ?
[09:09] <researcher1> how to remove a user from command line
[09:09] <abhinav_singh> ikonia no
[09:09] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: eg: scroll through the repos
[09:09] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: what did it do
[09:10] <ikonia> researcher1: userdel
[09:10] <Abinadi> insmod, I'm still getting no sound from itunes or windows media player after I killed pulseaudio
[09:10] <researcher1> ok
[09:10] <abhinav_singh> I am pasting some results to pastebin..please wait ikonia
[09:10] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: great
did you restart the vm
[09:11] <abhinav_singh> http://pastebin.com/dcu2JXmb ikonia
[09:11] <lalla> unable to operate with livecd even...encoutered with missing operating system problem
[09:11] <Abinadi> insmod, crap.  I should have thought of that first.  ty
[09:11] <Or|g|nalP|xel> I have a compaq laptop, 2009 model presario (not exactly sure, too lazy to check model) but it will power down after 15 minutes of being on, i believe it to be overheating issue, i replaced CPU fan in the laptop and it resolved the problem temporarily, few months later it started happening again, what possible causes if cpu fan is working?
 apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[09:11] <nagel182> can I talk to someone who is experiencedwith apache2 and PHP?
) did it go
[09:11] <ikonia> insmod: stop
[09:12] <ikonia> insmod: he has 3rd party repos in that
[09:12] <abhinav_singh> what will apt-get autoremove do insmod?
[09:12] <Abinadi> insmod, restarting the vm now
[09:12] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: ok, good news is it seemed happy to get the latest index files, bad news is you have 3rd party repos in there, the upgrade instructions suggest removing them first
[09:12] <lalla> encoutered with missing operating system problem...how do i go about it?
[09:12] <researcher1> what can be done so that user names dont appear on welcome screen
anything that is wrong
[09:12] <ikonia> researcher1: set the username to ""
[09:13] <abhinav_singh> okay ikonia :)
[09:13] <researcher1> ikonia: can u tell command if username  is student1
[09:13] <ikonia> researcher1: just set his name to " " in the useradmin gui
[09:14] <abhinav_singh> so should I run apt-get autoremove ikonia ?
[09:14] <Abinadi> insmod, nope didn't work
[09:14] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: not yet, remove the 3rd party repos first
[09:14] <researcher1> ikonia: i want to work in command line
[09:14] <ikonia> researcher1: look at "usermod" then
[09:14] <Or|g|nalP|xel> why is xchat free on linux but paid for windows?
[09:14] <insmod> man adduser |grep remove
[09:14] <ikonia> Or|g|nalP|xel: ask them
[09:14] <Sirion> hello i'm running jaunty. I have 9 ntfs partitions on my harddrives. I usually mount them with the graphical interface for gnome mount (locations --> removable media)
[09:14] <abhinav_singh> how to find which third party repos i have to remove? ikonia..
[09:14] <Abinadi> xchat-2 is free on windows too
[09:14] <Or|g|nalP|xel> ikonia: i thought you were the all knowing god of software :D
[09:14] <brontoeee> Or|g|nalP|xel, you can find 3rd party compiles that are free
hmm then the vm is oss not alsa -- you should check
[09:15] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: well, all your repos are official ubuntu ones, apart from getdeb, so just remove get deb
[09:15] <Abinadi> insmod, ok, I'll check
[09:15] <Sirion> but now they seem to automatically unmount if e.g amarok finishes a playlist
[09:15] <researcher1> how can I add many users in a short command ?
[09:15] <ikonia> researcher1: use a shell script
[09:16] <Fox> hellpo
[09:16] <researcher1> ikonia: which one plz
[09:16] <Fox> ikonia
[09:16] <ikonia> researcher1: there ins't a script, you need to write one
[09:16] <ikonia> Fox: yes ?
[09:16] <Sirion> i checked the partiton with chkdsk -- no problems found
[09:17] <researcher1> ikonia: ok Im newbie. Any way for me
[09:17] <abhinav_singh> where to find that ikonia.. sorry I am new to Ubuntu so i need your help..here is full result of apt-get update http://pastebin.com/nbPtZ5zt
[09:17] <ikonia> researcher1: no, you'd need to write a shell script, or type the command each time
[09:17] <barra_> ih
[09:17] <test> hey, what programming/scripting language should i learn for Linux GUI programming?
[09:17] <uxingjie> how t o install stardic  dics?
[09:17] <barra_> www.ubuntu.com
 apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[09:18] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: you have lots of 3rd party respos, google, get deb etc
[09:18] <barra_> http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:18] <ikonia> insmod: stop he has 3rd party repos enable,
so
[09:18] <ikonia> insmod: so they cause conflict
nope
[09:18] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: you also have lots of PPA's enabled, you'd need to remove them
[09:18] <lalla> livecd not showing display
[09:18] <test> what programming/scripting language should i learn for Linux GUI programming?
[09:18] <SmellySock> hello
you are the devel
[09:19] <soreau> test: gtk or qt
[09:19] <ikonia> insmod: really, so you know for a fact that the repos he has enable cause no conflict with the core ubuntu packages
[09:19] <abhinav_singh> Can you please tell me where and how to remove them ikonia
[09:19] <test> qt isn't a programming language?
[09:19] <test> or is it?
[09:19] <SmellySock> anyone here wants pie?
[09:19] <soreau> test: its a toolkit
[09:19] <Jordan_U> !ot | SmellySock
[09:19] <ikonia> SmellySock: stop please, this is a support channel for ubuntu
[09:19] <Abinadi> insmod, should I tell it to use the Intel HD Audio, ACH AC97, or the soundblaster 16?
[09:19] <SmellySock> ok
[09:20] <SmellySock> sorry
[09:20] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: I would remove all the 3rd party repos, google/getdeb/PPA's etc, then re-run apt-update and make sure they are gone
[09:20] <test> should i use python with gtk or C++ or something else?
yes if he updates they pose no probs -- the 3rd party may have to be reinstalled -- but the ubuntu upgrade will work
[09:20] <maco> test: python with c++ wouldnt make whole lot of sense...
[09:20] <ikonia> insmod: so you know for a fact those repos cause no conflict with ubuntu's core packages ?
 depends if you use alsa or oss
[09:21] <soreau> test: There is py-gtk and you can use C or C++
[09:21] <Jordan_U> abhinav_singh: More to the point you probably want to remove any packages that you have installed from those 3rd party repositories. ppa-purge is a nice script that can do this, I believe you can also find such packages with Ubuntu Software Center.
[09:21] <maco> soreau: if it's pygtk you're by definition using python
[09:21] <abhinav_singh> yup ikonia..thats what I am asking..where to find 3rd party repos?
[09:21] <Abinadi> insmod, I don't think I'm using anything now that I've killed pulseaudio, am I?
[09:21] <maco> test: for gtk you can use pygtk (python), normal gtk (c), or gtkmm (c++)
it can not because it over writes the files -- so if there is an error he just reinstalls 3rd party
[09:21] <soreau> maco: Sure but you can still do gtk gui programming with it, yes?
[09:21] <thedood_> hey
[09:21] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: ahh, I see, well Jordan_U's just offered a good option
[09:21] <thedood_> im kenapa
[09:22] <maco> test: for qt you can use pyqt (python) or normal qt (c++)
[09:22] <thedood_> why was i banned?
not ubuntu
[09:22] <ikonia> insmod: no, it won't run the upgrade because the files are conflicting
[09:22] <maco> test: gtkmm is pretty rarely used
[09:22] <thedood_> HEY
[09:22] <abhinav_singh> okay ikonia Jordan_U
[09:22] <test> i can code in C++ and a little bit of python
[09:22] <thedood_> HEY
[09:22] <Jordan_U> thedood_: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss bans.
[09:22] <ikonia> insmod: it won't overwrite if it can't start the upgrade because it can't match the deps
[09:22] <thedood_> im kenapa
[09:22] <test> what should i do?
[09:22] <thedood_> okay
[09:22] <maco> thedood_: uh, seems you're *not* since you're here....
 no idea type ps -aux |grep pulseaudio
[09:22] <test> pygtk or gtkmm?
[09:22] <maco> soreau: yes, but itd be a bit odd to mix the languages, unless you're about done and just want to optimise
[09:22] <maco> test: Qt's probably the simplest for you then
bahh
[09:23] <maco> test: #kubuntu-devel is full of people who A) know how to use Qt and B) will be very willing to show you bugs you can practice on
it will -f
[09:23] <test> I have tried Qt creator but my GUI won't work
[09:24] <test> maco:  I might go there
[09:24] <maco> test: it just makes a .ui file ... did you compile it?
[09:24] <test> yes
[09:24] <ikonia> insmod: not sure that's how to go about an upgrade
[09:24] <soreau> insmod: You can use tab completion for nicks, no need for the <>s
[09:24] <soreau> ! tab | insmod
[09:24] <maco> test: and then include/import it in your c++/python code?
[09:24] <abhinav_singh> ikonia I am confused ...please help me where to find ppa_purge script and 3rd party repos
[09:24] <A-Crow-Knows> I have one simple c++ question
[09:24] <soreau> A-Crow-Knows: Ask in ##c++
[09:25] <test> maco: yes, i used Qt Creaton thing
[09:25] <test> *creator
[09:25] <maco> test: that just makes the .ui file ... what about writing the actual code that ... does stuff?
[09:25] <Fox_> hi
[09:25] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: if you go into /etc/apt/sources.d you should see the repo config files for the 3rd part, and there may also be some in the /etc/apt/sources.list file, remove the 3rd party repos
thanks
[09:26] <soreau> abhinav_singh: If you are using 10.10, ppa-purge is in the repos. For older than 10.10 you can get it from xorg-edgers repo
[09:26] <maco> test: like, matching up signals & slots and writing the handlers and things....
[09:26] <test> maco: well it works to a ceratain point
[09:26] <ikonia> soreau: oh, is ppa-purge not in the multiverse ?
[09:26] <maco> test: you have a bug?
[09:26] <test> maco: but when I start adding more actions it stops working
[09:26] <soreau> ikonia: Its only in maverick
[09:26] <Fox_> hi
[09:26] <Sirion> anyone has an idea what could cause automatc unmounts of ntfs partitions?
[09:26] <Fox_> hi
[09:27] <test> maco: well I have the same problem every time
[09:27] <soreau> ikonia: but it could be in any other repo, I dont keep up with it too much really :)
yes
[09:27] <test> maco: also I don't like nokia that much :)
[09:27] <maco> test: ok. what time zone are you in? it's 430am here so id rather not start on code debugging just now.  but if you can put your code in bzr and push it to launchpad and pm me the branch name, i'd be happy to help you debug when i wake up
[09:28] <maco> test: (or you just go "hey, its morning in europe....i'll bug the other qt, kde, and kubuntu people!")
easy
[09:28] <maco> insmod: you dont have to include the angle brackets
[09:28] <ikonia> insmod: try (if you can) to use soreau tab suggestion, it makes it easier to follow
[09:28] <test> maco: im in belgium
[09:28] <insmod> thanks
[09:28] <maco> insmod: in fact, some clients won't highlight properly if you put something before the nick
[09:28] <test> maco: just 10:28 here
[09:28] <insmod> great
[09:29] <maco> test: ok, so if im online around 15:00-16:00 your time, can we talk then?
[09:29] <test> maco: uhm probably
[09:29] <Fox_> hi to all
[09:29] <ikonia> Fox_: you've said that, "hi"
[09:29] <insmod> Sirion:yes
[09:29] <insmod> Sirion:easy
[09:29] <xukun> I have a new ssd disk now and installed the OS on it, but know I need to access my old raid 1 disk. How can I do that?
[09:30] <maco> test: ok. then i'll see you when it's morning here ;-)
[09:30] <Jordan_U> abhinav_singh: You can download the ppa-purge script from here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ppa-purge/ppa-purge/ubuntu/view/42/ppa-purge
[09:30] <test> in the mean time i will go to the channel you said
[09:30] <rado_> hi everybody
[09:30] <soreau> insmod: Thats better.. now try putting a space after the colon
[09:30] <rado_> a quick question about custom kernel installation
what
[09:30] <soreau> :P
[09:30] <ikonia> rado_: custom kernels are not supported
what
[09:30] <maco> insmod: do you know that if you start typing the name then hit tab, itll finish it for you?
[09:30] <maco> insmod: and itll even include the ": " for you
[09:31] <insmod> that is cool
[09:31] <insmod> thanks
[09:33] <Abinadi> insmod, this is what I am getting when I try to kill pulseaudio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/569090/
wrong
[09:33] <maco> insmod: what client?
[09:33] <maco> insmod: pidgin or empathy? they're the worst, so the most likely to fail at tab completion...
[09:34] <Abinadi> insmod, almost any IRC client will do that for you
[09:34] <test> maco: I went to the channel but they are complaining about sleeping
[09:34] <xukun> device name is changed after I installed the OS on a new ssd disk. How do I find the correct raid1 disk to mount . sudo fdisk -l gives a lot of devices but I have no idea which one is the right one
looks stoped
xchat
[09:34] <maco> test: that was another american ;-)
[09:34] <Abinadi> insmod, xchat works great
yes
[09:34] <Jordan_U> insmod: Start typing the nick without the '<' and it will tab complete it.
[09:35] <soreau> insmod: Just type sor and hit tab
[09:35] <insmod> i see still not the way i am use to
[09:35] <soreau> insmod: The default in xchat is a comma separator you can change in the settings preferences
[09:36] <insmod> soreau: but tommorow i will be on bitchx
[09:36] <soreau> insmod: Well how you just typed it looks great
thanks lot more work the highlight and click
[09:37] <abhinav_singh> Jordan_U i have downloaded the script ..but what to pass as an argument to that script
[09:38] <xukun> I have two disk made it a raid1 but they are not mounted. how do I find the right device to mount?
[09:38] <Abinadi> insmod, it looks stopped to me too, but when I open the vm it gives me a warning that the audio device is not working and it grabs the NULL device
[09:38] <ikonia> xukun: sudo fdisk -l will show your disks and partitions
then it is not pulse it is alsa or oss
[09:39] <xukun> ikonia, that gives me a lot of info, it's very confusing and still don't sure which one is the one to mount
[09:40] <ikonia> xukun: how many disks do you have in your system ?
[09:40] <xukun> one ssd of 60gb and 2x2tb which is raid1 disks
[09:40] <Sirion> is the blksize option important for gnome-mount ?
[09:40] <xukun> ikonia, one ssd of 60gb and 2x2tb which is raid1 disks
[09:40] <ikonia> xukun: how are they raided ?
[09:41] <abhinav_singh> ikonia brother any help..i ahve download the script..but that argument should I pass to it
[09:41] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: do what I told you to do, removing the 3rd party info from /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.d
[09:41] <xukun> ikonia, I don't understand that. what do u mean?
[09:42] <ikonia> xukun: where did you configure the raid on the disks, within ubuntu, or in the motherboard bios ?
[09:42] <Abinadi> insmod, how do I find OSS, I've looked in the package manager?
[09:42] <xukun> ikonia, ah it's software raid
it would be  alsa oss the combatibility package
[09:43] <abhinav_singh> ikonia i have moved all the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to some different directory ...i think it should work now ?
[09:43] <nagel182> is here somebody who is good with apache2 and PHP? i need help and I desparete.
[09:44] <satya> hello
[09:44] <satya> if i tries to login with the user in ldap server, it says permission denied
[09:44] <Jordan_U> abhinav_singh: What ppas have you used? I don't think ppa-purge currently works with 3rd party repositories that aren't ppas.
[09:46] <nagel182> Okay. I have ubuntu 10.10. I installed apache2 Php mysql and phpmyadmin through the package handler. it worked after that I instaled Imagemagick , and imagick for PHP. than I installed mod_rewrite for appache2. I created a folder in /var/www/ called shimmie. I copied there my codes and  after setting up htaccess it worked fine.  url rewrite worked. thumbnails with imagick appeared along with normal images. Yesterday  I got another webpage
[09:46] <nagel182>  project. but it required apache mod_ expires and mod_headers and installed it. And installed Xdebug for PHP.  after this I put  the  webpage to another /var/www/ folder called fashion. Now in fashion everything works as its needs to: url rewrite , expires.. everything. But now my original folder shimmi, doesnt works: no url rewrite, no imagick thumbnails nor the original image shows up.
[09:47] <ikonia> xukun: is it ubuntu software raid, or software raid from the motherboard
[09:47] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: re-run sudo apt-get update and make sure it doesn't show any 3rd party repos
[09:48] <abhinav_singh> here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/bTQCzd5Y and here is my source.list.d directory contents http://pastebin.com/gDc3jab8 ikonia Jordan_U
[09:48] <LouisVuittonBags> Hello
[09:48] <nagel182> pleeeeease someone...
[09:48] <Senjai> nagel182?
[09:48] <AbhijiT> nagel182, what is imagemagic and imagick?
[09:49] <LouisVuittonBags> Hello again
[09:49] <AbhijiT> hi LouisVuittonBags do you have any ubuntu question?
[09:49] <LouisVuittonBags> yes
[09:49] <AbhijiT> ask
[09:49] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: you have losts of 3rd party repos in sources.d, I'd remove them
[09:49] <Senjai> nagel182, what was your question?
[09:49] <nagel182> imagemagick is a image manipulator program, and imagick is the API for it in PHP
[09:50] <abhinav_singh> so well i have moved them to different directory...will not it help ikonia?
[09:50] <nagel182> and my problem is that in one folder both of them works, but in another it doesnt
[09:50] <nagel182> and this is my problem
[09:50] <nagel182> Okay. I have ubuntu 10.10. I installed apache2 Php mysql and phpmyadmin through the package handler. it worked after that I instaled Imagemagick , and imagick for PHP. than I installed mod_rewrite for appache2. I created a folder in /var/www/ called shimmie. I copied there my codes and  after setting up htaccess it worked fine.  url rewrite worked. thumbnails with imagick appeared along with normal images. Yesterday  I got another webpage
 <nagel182>  project. but it required apache mod_ expires and mod_headers and installed it. And installed Xdebug for PHP.  after this I put  the  webpage to another /var/www/ folder called fashion. Now in fashion everything works as its needs to: url rewrite , expires.. everything. But now my original folder shimmi, doesnt works: no url rewrite, no imagick thumbnails nor the original image shows up.
[09:50] <FloodBot2> nagel182: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: they still show in that directory
[09:50] <Jordan_U> abhinav_singh: I'm not sure when this feature was added, but in Ubuntu 10.10 Software Sources lists all repositories, and what packages were installed from each. Can you check if Applications > Ubuntu Software Center shows such a list at the top left?
[09:50] <ikonia> nagel182: I suspect you have conflicting re-write rules
[09:51] <abhinav_singh> no i again moved them to source.d to show you the directory content but now they are in different directory ikonia
[09:51] <Jordan_U> ikonia: I asked what repositories abhinav_singh had.
[09:51] <nagel182> and how can I configure that? and can we talk in PM ikonia?
[09:51] <ikonia> ah, I thought they where still there
[09:51] <abhinav_singh> no ikonia i have moved them to different directory
[09:51] <ikonia> nagel182: the channel #httpd can explain apache re-write rules to you
[09:52] <ikonia> nagel182: no need to pm me
[09:52] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: re-run sudo apt-get update and make sure it doesn't look at external repos
[09:52] <Senjai> !query | nagel182
[09:52] <abhinav_singh> no Jordan_U i am using 10.04
[09:52] <Senjai> !pm | nagel182
[09:52] <nagel182> ikonia.. ok i go there but so far theywerent helpful ...
[09:52] <ikonia> nagel182: work with it, they will help you
[09:53] <Senjai> Jus ask your question, and wait
[09:53] <Senjai> not so long of a question
[09:53] <Senjai> shorten it
[09:54] <abhinav_singh> here is the result of re run of apt-get update http://pastebin.com/3pRj18PD ikonia
[09:55] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: that looks better, now follow insmods advice
[09:55] <abhinav_singh> okay ikonia :) I wish now i am able to upgrade to 10.10 :)
[09:55] <minotux> googleearth print "** is not gtk(2)" and then quit...., can anyone help?
[09:55] <AbhijiT> minotux, get the latest version
[09:56] <soreau> minotux: Which version of ubuntu?
[09:57] <jrgill> what is a .l file?
[09:57] <abhinav_singh> yes I have followed insmods advice ikonia
[09:58] <breadcrumb> hi
[09:58] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: try the upgrade then
[09:58] <jrgill> im trying to run this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/get-edid.1.html
[09:58] <jrgill> i downloaded it but dunno how to use it
[09:59] <jrgill> i ungziped it, so now what?
[09:59] <silverlightning> any moderators here?
[09:59] <minotux> soreau, mine is kubuntu, how to see the version of it?
[09:59] <silverlightning> sos --- ... ---
[09:59] <ikonia> silverlightning:  try #ubuntu-ops
[09:59] <cdbs> silverlightning: what do you want?
[09:59] <soreau> minotux: Try lsb_release -a|grep -i code
[09:59] <abhinav_singh> okay ikonia
[09:59] <silverlightning> do you know the commands for login?
[10:00] <ikonia> silverlightning: /join #ubuntu-ops
[10:00] <satya> if i tries to login with the user in ldap server, it says permission denied
[10:00] <minotux> soreau, ubuntu 11.04
[10:01] <soreau> ! 11.04 | minotux
[10:01] <minotux> but I have installedkde-desktop andremove the gnome-desktop
[10:01] <minotux> and I have removed all the gnome-* files...
[10:01] <soreau> minotux: You need to go to #ubuntu+1 since natty isnt supported here yet
[10:02] <minotux> soreau: so you mean I should disgrade to 10.10
[10:02] <abhinav_singh> ikonia which version you are running?
[10:02] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: many
[10:02] <verac> *downgrade
[10:02] <satya> cdbs: if i tries to login with the user in ldap server, it says permission denied
[10:02] <jrgill> can someone please tell me how to use this?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/get-edid.1.html
[10:02] <soreau> minotux: If you want help here, you should be using 10.10 or any other officially released version
[10:02] <abhinav_singh> wow :) ikonia
[10:02] <RuslanPopov> re ppl
[10:02] <cdbs> satya: sorry, I dunno
[10:03] <satya> cdbs: okay
[10:03] <ikonia> jrgill: what's the issue with it ?
[10:03] <silverlightning> ikonia, only mods allowed there?
[10:03] <ikonia> silverlightning: unless you have an issue
[10:03] <jrgill> ikonia: i downloaded it and ungzipped it.  how do i use it?
[10:03] <RuslanPopov> I install into computer two 2tb sata disks, enable bios raid support and the split them into raid1; how to use that raid into ubuntu 10.10?
[10:03] <jrgill> itsa .l file
[10:03] <ikonia> jrgill: use the deb
[10:04] <ikonia> !info get-edid
[10:04] <jrgill> what is .l though?
[10:04] <satya> login failde in the ldap server. permission denied. any seggestions guys
[10:04] <ikonia> jrgill: it doesn't matter, use the deb
[10:04] <verac> RuslanPopov: they'll probably just show up as one drive
[10:04] <ikonia> !read-edid
[10:04] <ikonia> !info read-edid
[10:04] <soreau> jrgill: Just run get-edid
[10:04] <jrgill> is it for an older ubuntu?  lucid?
[10:04] <silverlightning> NickServ VERIFY REGISTER silverlightning tfrgueiirgkr
[10:04] <silverlightning> hmm
[10:04] <ikonia> jrgill: install the package "read-edid"
[10:05] <verac> gj silverlightning ;)
[10:05] <ikonia> jrgill: open the package manager, and install the package "read-edid" you can then use that command
[10:05] <jrgill> i will but can you tell me what this is just so i know?
[10:05] <abhinav_singh> again the same error ikonia
[10:05] <ikonia> jrgill: it's another file type,
[10:05] <jrgill> what file type...
[10:05] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: Hmmm,
[10:06] <ikonia> jrgill: run file against it
[10:06] <jrgill> you can't just say what it is?
[10:06] <ikonia> jrgill: can't you just install the package and run the command you want
[10:06] <soreau> jrgill: Since you are the one interested, you should install it and find out
[10:07] <abhinav_singh> I am sending you a file though IM please accept it ikonia
[10:07] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: no thanks, I don't want a file
[10:07] <RuslanPopov> verac: i though the same
[10:07] <abhinav_singh> so any more help brother ikonia
[10:07] <jrgill> ikonia: i can install it through the package manager, but i dont see why you cant explain what i found; im not an idiot.
[10:08] <ikonia> jrgill: it's a man page, and if you read the info, you'd know it was a man page
[10:08] <ikonia> jrgill: the fact that I told you how to find out what it was and you wouldn't do it, so I had to download it for you and see what it was suggests to the contrary
[10:09] <jrgill> ikonia: if you had to download it, it suggests the contrary to you as well...
[10:09] <RuslanPopov> verac: that is dmesg: http://dpaste.com/432777/
[10:09] <soreau> -_-
[10:09] <silverlightning> verac, I registered earlier this morning, and verified, but how do I login now after the initial registration process?
[10:09] <satya> login failde in the ldap server. permission denied. any seggestions guys
[10:09] <ubuntu_> whats up guys
[10:09] <RuslanPopov> what partition table do I need to create for raid?
[10:09] <soreau> ! attitude | jrgill
[10:09] <ikonia> jrgill: not at all, you'd be surprised how many people don't download the file correctly
[10:09] <satya> login failed in the ldap server. permission denied. any seggestions guys
[10:10] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: standard
[10:10] <ikonia> satya: look at the logs on the ldap server, make sure it's getting the request
[10:10] <RuslanPopov> linux sees these disks as separate device, does it normal?
[10:10] <tlir> is there a minimal lamp stack ubuntu-based install? something under the 300mb footprint
[10:10] <jrgill> just stating the facts
[10:10] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: if you're using fakeraid, that is quite common
[10:11] <abhinav_singh> any more help brother ikonia ...:P)
[10:11] <RuslanPopov> ikonia, I am not sysadmin, I just setup raid in bios and then join disk in raid bios util
[10:11] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: hard without more info, I suspect one of the many PPA's you where using has created a conflict that the upgrade manager can't resolve
[10:11] <RuslanPopov> may be it was fakeraid
[10:11] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: that is fakeraid
[10:12] <RuslanPopov> so, I need to format them separately and then?
[10:12] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: no, fakeraid is not a good technology to use with Linux as it's a Windows technology
[10:12] <ikonia> !fakeraid | RuslanPopov
[10:13] <abhinav_singh> so what to do now bro ikonia :)
[10:14] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: without more info it's hard, I'd suggest (unless you really want to work hard to debug it) a clean install, but in future limiting your use of 3rd party repos and PPA's
[10:14] <brontoeee> how is fakeraid done on mac?
[10:14] <ikonia> brontoeee: it's not
[10:14] <RuslanPopov> heh
[10:15] <brontoeee> ikonia, huh, you just select two drives with 'disk utility' and say make it raid0, and thats it
[10:15] <brontoeee> ikonia, is that something else?
[10:15] <jrgill> ikonia: how does someone download that file incorrectly?
[10:15] <ikonia> brontoeee: yes, that's not fake raid
[10:15] <RuslanPopov> if I understand right, I have to shut off raid support in bios, and work with them in ubuntu as separate devices with software raid?
[10:15] <ikonia> jrgill: fail to unzip it properly
[10:15] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: that is a good option
[10:16] <RuslanPopov> fakeroot is good option or software raid?
[10:16] <ikonia> fakeroot ?
[10:17] <RuslanPopov> I just don't understand you clear
[10:17] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: I don't understand you, what do you mean by fakeroot ?
[10:17] <jo-erlend> I need to manually partition my disk with three partitions for use as space for raid and they need to start and end with sectors that are divisible by 4. How do I do that?
[10:18] <ikonia> jo-erlend: why do they need to start / end with sectors divisible by 4 ?
[10:18] <RuslanPopov> fakeraid
[10:18] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: fake raid is not a good option on linux
[10:19] <RuslanPopov> ok, I understand
[10:19] <Kranix> I think I hit some keyboard shortcut accidentally, everything on my screen darkened a lot...
[10:19] <jrgill> is there a package manager somewhere in gnome?  im on the live cd.
[10:19] <jo-erlend> ikonia: because my disk uses 4KB sectors, but doesn't report it, so Linux assumes it uses 512B sectors. This has a tremendous impact on performance. It's upto ten times slower than it would be if it were partitioned properly, which Ubuntus installers are unable to do.
[10:19] <brontoeee> Kranix, laptop?
[10:19] <Kranix> Yes.
[10:20] <ikonia> jo-erlend: you can change the block size on the file system
[10:20] <jo-erlend> ikonia: that's not the same. That's only software. I'm talking about hardware.
[10:20] <brontoeee> Kranix, mine has a blue function key names 'Fn', and if i press that + say f5 it gets darker, see if there is something like
[10:20] <martijn_pc> hello
[10:21] <ikonia> jo-erlend: use an advanced partition tool, such as fdisk which allows you to set start/end sectors
[10:21] <brontoeee> that
[10:21] <ikonia> jo-erlend: or parted
[10:21] <jo-erlend> ikonia: yes, that much is clear to me. How, though, is another question.
[10:21] <trijntje> Hi all, I used to be able to pull flash vids I watch in firefox from /tmp, but since a week or so they don't show up there any more. How can I determine where these vids are stored on my pc so I can save them for offline viewing?
[10:21] <ikonia> jo-erlend: when you partition the disk you can set start/end sectors, use that option
[10:22] <ikonia> jo-erlend: read the man page and documents also for more information
[10:22] <Kranix> None of the F keys change the light level with Fn
[10:23] <ray_> How do I register my nick on freenode?
[10:23] <jrgill> is there a package manager in gnome or what?  i see software center but searching edid returns nothing.
[10:23] <brontoeee> ray_, /msg nickserv help
[10:23] <ikonia> jrgill: synaptic is the package manager and I told you the exact package name earlier
[10:23] <ikonia> !register > RuslanPopov
[10:23] <ikonia> oops
[10:23] <ray_> There is also synaptic package manager
[10:23] <ikonia> !register > ray_
[10:23] <RuslanPopov> ok
[10:23] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <Kranix> Yes, System > Administation > Synaptic Package Manager
[10:24] <RuslanPopov> Ikonia what this registration is for?
[10:24] <ikonia> RuslanPopov: wasn't for you, sorry
[10:25] <jrgill> ok good
[10:25] <RuslanPopov> ok
[10:26] <gaurav_help> what is gnome
[10:26] <ikonia> gaurav_help: desktop environment
[10:26] <ikonia> gaurav_help: www.gnome.org
[10:28] <Mkman> Bom Dia!
[10:28] <gaurav_help> can i install this on my ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop edition
[10:28] <ikonia> gaurav_help: gnome is the desktop you are using in ubuntu 10.10
[10:28] <brontoeee> gaurav_help, gnome is a part of standard ubuntu
[10:29] <gaurav_help> so can i update my gnome version
[10:29] <ikonia> gaurav_help: you don't need to
[10:29] <eubey> can someone look over an iptables config for me? Trying to secure a cloud-based webserver, current iptables causes FTP to fail to retrieve directory listing http://pastebin.com/najfH41F
[10:30] <ikonia> eubey: #netfilter is a good channel for iptables
[10:30] <gaurav_help> is there is any diffrence in desktop edition or in netbook edition
[10:30] <ikonia> gaurav_help: yes, the desktop
[10:31] <[thor]> netbook edition uses "Unity" instead of "gnome-panel"
[10:31] <Euthanasia> hello people
[10:31] <brontoeee> netbook comes with classic desktop as well i think
[10:32] <amit> channel for fedora?
[10:32] <eubey> ikonia, netfilter is dead
[10:32] <ray_> Can you find out if Ray is register?, I have been coming here unregistered.
[10:32] <ikonia> eubey: it's not
[10:32] <ikonia> ray_: ask in #freenode
[10:32] <amit> some one tell me channel for fedora
[10:32] <Euthanasia> i have a question. i have a local disk NTFS format. how do i call that disk when i am trying to specify a path in the terminal ?
[10:32] <ikonia> amit: #fedora
[10:32] <greenmang0> amit: \#fedora
[10:32] <amit> thanx
[10:33] <[thor]> Euthanasia: can you access the disk through the gui? i mean to say is it mounted?
[10:33] <gaurav_help> i am using desktop nut i have laptop
[10:33] <ikonia> gaurav_help: that's fine
[10:33] <gaurav_help> which is best for me
[10:33] <Euthanasia> yes
[10:33] <Euthanasia> it is mounted
[10:33] <ikonia> gaurav_help: use what you like, the desktop is fine
[10:33] <[thor]> Euthanasia: try " ls /media
[10:33] <gaurav_help> ya i am quite fine with my desktop
[10:34] <irong33k> linux mint keeps on hanging after every minute
[10:34] <Euthanasia> k
[10:34] <irong33k> is there a flaw ?
[10:34] <ikonia> irong33k: we don't support mint here
[10:34] <[thor]> Euthanasia: without " obviously
[10:34] <gaurav_help> but there is diffrence in gnome they have any other desktop enviroment
[10:34] <ikonia> !mint | irong33k
[10:35] <gaurav_help> what is gnome shell
[10:35] <Euthanasia> nope
[10:35] <ikonia> gaurav_help: it's unavailable at this time, look on gnome.org for gnome info
[10:36] <Euthanasia> its not workin
[10:36] <jo-erlend> I am about to partition my disk manually for raid. What do I need to do? Is there any special kinds of filesystems I need, or will the installer be able to use just normal partitions without me doing anything special in advance_
[10:36] <dcamps> hi, I have ubuntu 10.04 with a luks encrypted partition. I would like grub to show me a screen at boot time to select between different kernels installed, however such screen does not appear. I have grub-2 and have run sudo grub-update. Any idea of what could be wrong?
[10:36] <Euthanasia> i`m trying to run a game with wine... and i cant get the command right..
[10:36] <ikonia> jo-erlend: are youusing software or hardware raid ?
[10:36] <Euthanasia> like the file path
[10:36] <ikonia> Euthanasia: try #winehq
[10:36] <jo-erlend> ikonia: mdadm.
[10:36] <greenmang0> dcamps: press Shift when system boots
[10:36] <redGoat> dcamps: Hold SHIFT to get grub2 option.
[10:36] <Euthanasia> nothing happened
[10:37] <ikonia> jo-erlend: then you'll need to use the alternative installer disk, and you don't need anything special in terms of file system
[10:37] <dcamps> thanks i'll try now
[10:37] <ikonia> Euthanasia: try the channel #winehq
[10:37] <gaurav_help> which version i am using of gnome in ubuntu 10.10
[10:37] <Euthanasia> kay
[10:37] <ikonia> gaurav_help: 2.X
[10:37] <brontoeee> Euthanasia, df -h should return some paths as well for example
[10:37] <greenmang0> Euthanasia: are you sure your NTFS partition is mounted ? try mount command
[10:37] <jo-erlend> ikonia: I can set the start and end sectors for partitions in the installer? I havent seen that, I think.
[10:37] <ikonia> jo-erlend: , as I said you need to use an advanced partition tool for that, such as fdisk or parted
[10:38] <gaurav_help> it this is latest version
[10:38] <ikonia> gaurav_help: no
[10:38] <jo-erlend> ikonia: yes, but once Ive partitioned it, I can just start the installer and select those partitions for use as space for raid?
[10:38] <ikonia> jo-erlend: correct
[10:38] <gaurav_help> which is the latest can i install tat
[10:39] <ikonia> gaurav_help:  you are using the latest you can install
[10:39] <jo-erlend> ikonia: great. Now. How do I select start and end sectors? They just must not overlap, is that it? I can have gaps?
[10:39] <ikonia> jo-erlend: I've told you if you are going to this level of detail you need to read up on how to use the advanced partitioning tools
[10:39] <ikonia> jo-erlend: use eithe fdisk or parted, both are capable
[10:40] <gaurav_help> as u told me tat gnome shell is not available in ubuntu10.10
[10:40] <jo-erlend> ikonia: I know what to use. I dont know which sectors to use and how to find the total number of sectors.
[10:40] <brontoeee> Euthanasia, df -h should return some paths as well for example
[10:40] <pwillman> I need some hand on installing 10.10 via Wubi, it installs the first part at windows but then, after reboot, it says part of install can't be found...
[10:40] <ikonia> gaurav_help: correct
[10:40] <brontoeee> ups
[10:41] <ikonia> jo-erlend: that is avaialble within the partition tool, if you learn how to use it you can query the disk
[10:41] <silverlightning> partisjonsprogrammet er ganske enkelt å bruke
[10:41] <fx> nick yarekt
[10:41] <gaurav_help> which desktop enviromrnt is good i seen some video but i never seen tat type of menu i think tat is on notebook edition
[10:41] <ikonia> silverlightning: this channel is for English language only please.
[10:41] <ikonia> gaurav_help: gnome desktop is fine
[10:42] <gaurav_help> thanks
[10:42] <jo-erlend> silverlightning: I can figure that part out. Can I just choose sectors randomly? Ive never partitioned a disk for use with 4KB sectors.
[10:42] <gaurav_help> is there any great themes expect bisigi themes
[10:42] <gaurav_help> which i install
[10:42] <ikonia> gaurav_help: look on gnome-look.org
[10:42] <brontoeee> gaurav_help, better find that video, installing stuff like multiple dekstops is not what you want
[10:43] <gaurav_help> thanks
[10:43] <yarekt> Hi everyone. I wonder if you could help me. I need to put a hostname as an environment variable, which has to go to /etc/environment but from what i read that file does not execute any script stuff, is that true?
[10:44] <ikonia> yarekt: just do HOSTNAME=`hostname` in your .bash_profile
[10:44] <gaurav_help> how can i change my defualt directory of terminal which open /home/gaurav but i want to change it over /home/gaurav/desktop/java
[10:44] <silverlightning> jo-erlend½
[10:44] <yarekt> ikonia, it has to go into /etc/environment because its needed by apache, not only by shell scripts
[10:44] <jo-erlend> silverlightning?
[10:45] <silverlightning> jo-erlend could just be repalced with only?
[10:45] <silverlightning> sorry
[10:45] <gaurav_help> abhi kuch zayda hi bzy hu
[10:45] <gaurav_help> baugi
[10:45] <ikonia> yarekt: sorry, why does it need to go into /etc/environment
[10:45] <gaurav_help> soory
[10:45] <silverlightning> maybe there is a better paritioning software
[10:46] <gaurav_help> how can i change my defualt directory of terminal which open /home/gaurav but i want to change it over /home/gaurav/desktop/java
[10:46] <yarekt> ikonia, because apache, on startup, reads that file. I'm not comfortable with having it source any other files
[10:46] <jo-erlend> silverlightning: I dont think the tool is the problem. I just dont know how to choose the correct sectors in order to get a correctly aligned partition table.
[10:46] <ikonia> yarekt: apache won't read that file, why does apache need a hostname variable ?
[10:46] <greenmang0> hello friends, i am using latest ubuntu on my old macbook ... the sound is working fine but when i plugin the headphone in the audio jack.. i don't hear any sound what can be the problem?
[10:46] <greenmang0> headphones are working fine ;)
[10:47] <gaurav_help> how can i change my defualt directory of terminal which open /home/gaurav but i want to change it over /home/gaurav/desktop/java anyone
[10:47] <greenmang0> type > cd /home/gaurav/Desktop/java in terminal
[10:48] <greenmang0> gaurav_help: ^^
[10:48] <gaurav_help> how can i change my defualt directory of terminal which open /home/gaurav but i want to change it over /home/gaurav/desktop/java
[10:48] <ikonia> gaurav_help: changing the default is tricky as it opens your home directory by default
[10:48] <jubei> I'm trying to compile a library (GLFW) and I get GL/glx.h: No such file or directory
[10:48] <yarekt> ikonia, ok, ill rephrase, I need it to be in /etc/environment , so all the PHP applications have the envvars set. I cannot modify the PHP applications
[10:48] <ikonia> jubei: install the correct header packages
[10:49] <ikonia> yarekt: php won't read enviornment variables
[10:49] <jubei> ikonia, uuhm... what would those be?
[10:49] <ikonia> yarekt: give you give a real life example of your problem please.
[10:49] <[thor]> greenmang0: check the Hardware Output tab in your sound config (right-clicking the sound icon in the panel) for "Connector:"
[10:51] <yarekt> ikonia, in /etc/environment: SERVER_ENV='test1'; in PHP define('SERVER_ENV', getenv('SERVER_ENV'));
[10:51] <pwillman> Installing ubuntu desktop 10.10 via Wubi causes trouble for me, when it's installed as windows program. After reboot when it should start installing the .iso it states that .iso can't be found...
[10:51] <ikonia> yarekt: that should be set in the env of the user executing the script
[10:52] <jo-erlend> are sectors and cylinders the same_
[10:52] <ikonia> no
[10:52] <mwaijandeg> how can i change the the login screen appearence in ubuntu?
[10:52] <jrgill> how does kde compare to gnome nowadays?  i havent used windows managers in a few years.
[10:52] <mwaijandeg> ny1 can help me
[10:52] <ikonia> jrgill: try them out, it's personal taste
[10:52] <yarekt> ikonia, the PHP is executed by apache
[10:53] <ikonia> yarekt: setup the apache users env if possible then
[10:53] <yarekt> ikonia, and we also have some PHP cli scripts which are executed by multiple shell users
[10:53] <ikonia> yarekt: then get those users to source the environment file
[10:53] <mwaijandeg> i have downloaded the new archiver containing new screens
[10:53] <yarekt> ikonia, the environment file?
[10:53] <ikonia> yarekt: /etc/enviornment
[10:54] <mwaijandeg> if any1 knows let me know plz
[10:54] <jo-erlend> ikonia: can you recommend a channel that can help me partition my disks so I can install Ubuntu?
[10:54] <mwaijandeg> i want to i wanna customize appearance
[10:54] <ikonia> jo-erlend: no sorry, although I don't know why you won't accept the default
[10:54] <mwaijandeg> the default?
[10:55] <mwaijandeg> just curious1
[10:55] <yarekt> ikonia, thats what we have right now. but I have to hardcode the variables for each server, id like them to be picked up from hostname and IP address right in /etc/environment, so that when anything sources it they will be automatically available for all
[10:55] <jo-erlend> ikonia: because that gives my sata drives a maximum speed of 30MB/s. And theyre really fast disks.
[10:55] <mwaijandeg> i wanna c new look
[10:55] <ikonia> jo-erlend: I doubt it will affect it that much,
[10:55] <jrgill> so this is what get-edid says.  idk how xrandr is getting its initial modes.  http://pastebin.com/MWi1vHnq
[10:56] <mwaijandeg> ..........
[10:56] <ikonia> yarekt: you should be able to do HOSTNAME=`hostname` as when the shell sources it it should work
[10:56] <yarekt> ikonia, in /etc/environment ?
[10:56] <karlo94> how I can grep or cut or else all after some word?
[10:56] <jo-erlend> ikonia: really? Reports say it will, for some operations, slow the disk access down by up to 25x.
[10:56] <ikonia> jo-erlend: I doubt that very much
[10:57] <sier> viva la Linux Unix Solaris !
[10:57] <ikonia> sier: please don't, this is a support channel only
[10:57] <kneko> hi all
[10:57] <sier> hello
[10:57] <jo-erlend> ikonia: why do you doubt that? Linux has to manually recalculate every single write operation. Its true. I just need to find out how to find the correct sectors to start with. And seing as fdisk uses cylinders, I need to find out how to convert that.
[10:58] <jo-erlend> ikonia: another problem with Ubuntus default installer, is that it creates overlapping filesystems, which is a seriously bad thing.
[10:58] <ikonia> jo-erlend: do what you wish, I just know from experience on home user situations it won't be the issue
[10:58] <ikonia> jo-erlend: it shouldn't create overlaps, if it does that is a bug and report it
[10:58] <jo-erlend> ikonia: its well known.
[10:58] <mwaijandeg> somebody in certain forum told me to use tweak
[10:58] <mwaijandeg> let me see
[10:58] <sier> someone help me please  humm using opencobol?
[10:59] <sier> in linux
[10:59] <ikonia> jo-erlend: can you show me the bug report for it please ?
[10:59] <jo-erlend> ikonia: I dont have a link to it here, because I just deleted my partitions.
[10:59] <erUSUL> sier: sudo apt-get install open-cobol
[10:59] <crow2> i copy two config file i changed before into lynx-cur/ ,but when i run lynx, it says can not find lynx.cfg and lynx.lss . i am sure that i copy two file from my last ubuntu system,
[10:59] <jo-erlend> ikonia: if you look at the log for #Ubuntu-bugs a few hours ago, youll find a link to it there.
[10:59] <ikonia> jo-erlend: ok, well manually partition
[11:00] <kneko> just loaded Ubuntu on my dying ms dos laptop and it has given it new life.
[11:00] <ikonia> jo-erlend: but don't worry about sector sizes
[11:00] <yarekt> ikonia, it doesnt execute the $() or ``, it just sets it to `hostname`
[11:00] <yarekt> ikonia, literal
[11:00] <ikonia> yarekt: how dissapointing
[11:00] <sier> but configuration
[11:00] <jo-erlend> ikonia: how can I not worry about that? If I dont know where to end the first partition, then I wont know where its safe to start the other.
[11:00] <halvor> hello
[11:01] <ikonia> jo-erlend: use gparted in the installer in manual mode, it will not let you overlap
[11:01] <tr3nton> hi all..
[11:02] <halvor> does anyone know what to do with the bluetooth settings if it seems to be okay, but the computer is not visible for other gadgets and can't see other gadgets
[11:02] <halvor> ?
[11:02] <tr3nton> can someone recommend a screen shoot tool that will work when in a context menu?
[11:02] <jo-erlend> ikonia: gparted doesnt allow me to specify start and end sectors though, does it?
[11:02] <ikonia> jo-erlend: no, but as I said don't worry about it, just worry about sizing
[11:02] <halvor> dmesg says: btusb_bulk_complete: hci0 urb f7128b80 failed to resubmit (1)
[11:02] <tr3nton> !screensho
[11:02] <tr3nton> !screenshot
 ever tried pressing print screen?
[11:03] <tr3nton> yeah
[11:03] <tr3nton> it doesn't work
[11:03] <halvor> and?
[11:03] <tr3nton> when im in a menu
[11:03] <erUSUL> tr3nton: d a screenshot with a timeout ?
[11:03] <poss> hey folks, ready for the next chapter in the poss saga?
[11:03] <yarekt> ikonia, thanks for your help
[11:03] <tr3nton> normally when you press print screen. the dialog appear asking to save or copy to clip board
[11:03] <jo-erlend> ikonia: if the partitions start with the usual 63, then write performance gets reduced by 60-90%. I _need_ to start with sectors that are divisible by four.
[11:03] <tr3nton> but in the case of being active on a menu, nothing happens
[11:04] <brontoeee> a little untested hack to open terminal at specific location might be: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=243332&postcount=6
[11:04] <mrb260478> hi just needed help of samba server
[11:04] <ikonia> jo-erlend: it won't won't make a visible different unless you have hi iops on things like a fibre channel array
[11:04] <ikonia> the nacked eye won't see that sort of thing
[11:04] <brontoeee> to someone who asked that before
[11:04] <tr3nton> seems to be the same for the gnome menu, and context menus
[11:04] <poss> So in previous episodes we discovered that our hero had been trying to update a ubuntu 9.10 installation to 10.04, however the update failed and the computer restarted, upon restarting the computer would nto start and reported a kernel error
[11:04] <mrb260478> hi any body
 then use what <erUSUL> adviced, a timeout
[11:04] <mickster04> hey guys is there a guide for how to fix grub when installing ubuntu 10.10 to a second hdd
[11:05] <tr3nton> oh right. sorry.
[11:05] <mrb260478> problem : slow copy and fast paste on samba share
[11:05] <ikonia> !grub2> mickster04
[11:05] <halvor> how to solve this problem with bluetooth? btusb_bulk_complete: hci0 urb f7128b80 failed to resubmit (1)
[11:05] <poss> in response to this situation our hero burnt off a live cd and set about installing 10.04 alongside the existing install
[11:05] <poss> this also failed
[11:06] <ikonia> poss: please just state issues, rather than talk as if you're in a book
[11:06] <mickster04> why does grb not install correctly?
[11:06] <poss> its rather hard to explain without background
[11:06] <ikonia> poss: then explain the background, without being in a book
[11:07] <jo-erlend> ikonia: You _do_ notice that. Its a radical reduction in speed. Windows 7 boots in about fifteen seconds. Ubuntu boots in 1 minute 30 seconds. That should tell you something.
[11:07] <poss> I am currently forced to use live cd as the operating system as ubuntu will not install and the existing ubuntu installation reports kernel panic.  However, the live cd freezes every half an hour or so
[11:07] <ikonia> jo-erlend: that's utter nosense, ubuntu will not boot in 1 minute 30 seconds
[11:08] <halvor> so nobody knows anything about such bluetooth nonsense?
[11:08] <OomElvis> Q: i want to delete all exim4 packages, i.e. every package starting with 'exim4'
[11:08] <OomElvis> 'exim4-'
[11:08] <jo-erlend> ikonia: my internal drives is about as fast as a fast memory stick when using Ubuntu.
[11:08] <ikonia> jo-erlend: if it's booting in 1.30 seconds your disk block size is not the issue
[11:08] <OomElvis> any wildcard i can use for that?
[11:09] <mrb260478> is anybody listening
[11:09] <jo-erlend> ikonia: youre right. The problem is that Linux needs to recalculate every single disk operation because its a 4096B disk and not a 512B disk.  I dont understand why you refuse to believe that.
[11:09] <mrb260478> helppp
[11:09] <poss> I have run system diagnostics as best I could and have determined: grub memory test runs fine. The live cd works fine on another computer and will install completely on another computer.  I have swapped out the cd drive and the hard drive
[11:09] <ikonia> jo-erlend: because I've done a large ammount of work with this, that's why I refuse to accept it
[11:10] <poss> i have run ubuntu system testing off the live cd, it reported no errors
[11:10] <mickster04> mrb260478: that's not a problem
[11:10] <tr3nton> ok. that works a treat. ;-) apps > metacity > keybinding_commands -> command_window_screenshot ... add argument --delay=3 at the end for a 3 sec delay.
[11:10] <tr3nton> in gconf-editor
[11:10] <poss> So Ubuntu will not install, and the exisiting ubuntu installation will not boot
[11:10] <ikonia> poss: that sounds like a hardware error of some sort if you have a kernel panic and the livecd is freezing
[11:11] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: linux dos not have to do anything it is the disk firmware what does that if you are using the disk in compatibility mode
[11:11] <jo-erlend> ikonia: really? Because the hardware vendors are so aware of this that they actually write how to partition for Windows XP and Windows 7 on the harddisk. It even has a jumper to support Windows XP. In Linux, though, we have to manually do this, otherwise it gets seriously slow. The Advanced Format is supposed to increase efficiency, so this is terribly annoying.
[11:11] <mickster04> mrb260478: that is not a problem....
[11:11] <yarekt> poss, there must be something wrong with your machine that none of the tests have picked up
[11:11] <ikonia> jo-erlend: carry on as you wish, I disagree and do not wish to argue it
[11:11] <jo-erlend> erUSUL: it works well if you just make sure the partitions start with sectors that are divisible by four.
[11:11] <sacarlson> poss: did you try turn off all built in devices from bios and remove all unneeded hardware to attempt to isolate if it's hardware rellated?  maybe post your sudo lshw | pastebinit
[11:12] <jo-erlend> ikonia: this is fact. There is nothing to agree or disagree about.
[11:12] <ikonia> jo-erlend: there is
[11:12] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: all recent ( 10.10 ) disk utilities ( parted fdisk etc ) know how to round sectors for optimal performance
[11:12] <jo-erlend> ikonia: a link for you, randomly chosen. If you want, I will be happy to provide you with a thousand links. http://www.switched.com/2010/03/12/new-hard-drives-could-spell-trouble-for-xp-users?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
[11:13] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: plenty of info here https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues
[11:13] <ikonia> jo-erlend:  thank you, as I've said I disagree with what you are saying, and don't wish to discuss it further
[11:13] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: specialy the utilities section here https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues#L-2._Userspace_tools_status_.28thanks_to_Karel_Zak.5B13.5D.29
[11:13] <ikonia> jo-erlend: the tools I have suggested are capable of doing what you want, research how to use them and good luck
[11:13] <jo-erlend> erUSUL: the problem, as I stated, is that Linux firmly believes that this is a 512B disk, not a 4096B one, so it optimizes for a condition that is utterly false.
[11:14] <poss> Thing is sacarison, this computer has been running fine for over a year, it was not until i ran ubuntu update that anything went wrong at all, and now everything is screwed. Now it does look like a hardware problem, but if it is then it was obviously brought on by the update, would you agree?
[11:14] <mrb260478> when i  copy 80mb file from windows to samba share folder it is copied at average speed of 5mb/sec, but when i copy same file from samba share folder to windows it is copied in 2mb/sec speed why is this happenning any answer's please
[11:14] <ikonia> poss: no I would not agree
[11:14] <ikonia> poss: it is probably just a hardware failure,
[11:14] <jo-erlend> ikonia:... fdisk uses cylinders. I have no idea how to convert cylinders to sectors and vice versa. If youve done alot of work with this, why cant you at least point me in the right direction?
[11:14] <poss> that happened to coincide with a system update?
[11:15] <ikonia> jo-erlend: you seem good at using google, the info is available
[11:15] <jo-erlend> ikonia: what do I search for?
[11:15] <ikonia> poss: maybe the update reboot
[11:15] <mickster04> !pm | mrb260478
[11:15] <ikonia> jo-erlend: fdisk or parted guides/info
[11:15] <mickster04> mrb260478: probably because of windows
[11:16] <ikonia> jo-erlend: heads/cylinders block conversion
[11:16] <mrb260478> ok i am new don't know much about irc
[11:16] <mrb260478> because of windows means
[11:16] <brontoeee> mrb260478, how about ftp speed?
[11:16] <przemasu> Hi. It's me again. Somebody told me to change to "blank-only" to disable screen turning off. It doesn't work. I tried to change options in power management, gconfig-editor and BIOS. Maybe somebody know how to disable turning TV off. I'm using PC, not laptop
[11:16] <mrb260478> can i tweak on windows or in ubuntu
[11:16] <mrb260478> ftp too has the same problem
[11:16] <mrb260478> speed reduces for copy from samba
[11:17] <yarekt> przemasu, setterm -powerdown 0; setterm -powersave Off; setterm -blank 0
[11:17] <brontoeee> mrb260478, how about not using samba and test ftp speed?
[11:17] <mickster04> so how come grub breaks on a fresh install, when ubuntu is on a second hdd?
[11:17] <mrb260478> i need to use samba
[11:17] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: please read the wiki page i linked. check the version of utilities you are using. use a gpt partition table and recent enough fdisk and gparted
[11:17] <Arney> im still having the squashfs error, now I installed and md5'ed everything to no avail
[11:17] <mrb260478> as i use ubuntu as file server
[11:18] <mrb260478> has it something to do with sysctl.conf
[11:18] <mickster04> mrb260478: well just copy files rather than pasting them?
[11:18] <poss> ok, so what kind of thing would cause an intermittent freezing of the live disc?  what am i looking for?
[11:18] <ikonia> mickster04: doubtful
[11:18] <ikonia> poss: generic hardware problem, ram/cpu/psu/drives
[11:18] <brontoeee> mrb260478, yes and you need to use windows as well, you poor guy, i suggested to check the speed with some other 'protocol', thats it, so you have some sort of values to compare to
[11:18] <mickster04> ikonia: what is?
[11:18] <pwillman> Someone can advice me on 10.10 desktop installation problems?
[11:18] <Graet|> poss cd drive failure would be where i look first
[11:19] <ikonia> mickster04: sorry, that was for mrb260478
[11:19] <mickster04> !someone | pwillman
[11:19] <mickster04> ikonia: kk
[11:19] <przemasu> I forgot : TV is connected by S-Video, not D-SUB or something like this
[11:19] <poss> I have tried two different internal cd drives and an external usb cd drive same issue
[11:19] <poss> so i think cd drive is out
[11:19] <mrb260478> i need to use samba server for copy as well as paste
[11:19] <yarekt> przemasu, is it, errr, are you viewing the terminal on your TV?
[11:19] <przemasu> yes
[11:20] <gaurav_help> how to install themes
[11:20] <yarekt> przemasu, then my above answer still stands
[11:20] <gaurav_help> tar.gz file
[11:20] <ikonia> !themes | gaurav_help
[11:20] <erUSUL> gaurav_help: drag and drop the tar.gz file over the System>Preferences>appearance|| themes dialog window
[11:21] <pwillman> Anyone figured out why 10.10 desktop refuses to install .iso on ntfs with windows vista 64bit?
[11:21] <elricL> pwillman: Install it on ext4
[11:21] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, I don't think you should install Ubuntu on an ntfs filesystem
[11:21] <mickster04> pwillman: that doesn't make sense, what are you trying to achieve? burn the ISO or install ubuntu on ntfs
[11:21] <jo-erlend> erUSUL: ... The problem isnt the tools. The problem is that I need to specify sectors manually because Linux believes my harddisk uses 512B sectors, when in reality it uses 4096B. And I dont know how to calculate this.
[11:21] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, ext4 is recommended
[11:22] <mickster04> jo-erlend: *4?
[11:22] <jo-erlend> mickster04: what does that mean?
[11:22] <gaurav_help> ikonia: i just downlaod login screen from gnome theme but i dont know how to install
[11:22] <ikonia> gaurav_help: you can't change hte login screen
[11:22] <mickster04> jo-erlend: multiply by four?
[11:23] <sinisterstuf> gaurav_help, what login program did it say the theme was for?
[11:23] <gaurav_help> ohhh thanks
[11:23] <sinisterstuf> ikonia, you can't change the login screen? what?
[11:23] <gaurav_help> sinisterstuff :Login screen
[11:23] <jarreboum> Hello, I have lost my /home due to a stupid manipulation. I made a thread about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690690 but I'm afraid no one notice because of the huge amount of replies. Maybe someone here can help me?
[11:23] <ikonia> sinisterstuf: a log of the gdm cusomistations have been locked
[11:24] <ikonia> "lot"
[11:24] <sinisterstuf> gaurav_help, in IRC you can press tab to autocomplete nicknames
[11:24] <viggy_prabhu> hi friends, I remember an ebook was released under CC by SA for the basics of Ubuntu for newbies
[11:24] <sinisterstuf> ikonia, i changed mine just yesterday, by customisation though, not by installation of a theme
[11:24] <poss> Ok sacarlson here is that sudo lshw pastebin you asked for http://pastebin.com/TCVDj8ZH
[11:24] <viggy_prabhu> Can anybody please share the link of the ebook
[11:24] <sinisterstuf> ikonia, gaurav_help to my knowledge the same themes that are used by GNOME are usable by GDM
[11:25] <ikonia> sinisterstuf: they are not, gdm is a seperate component
[11:25] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: yes; you are using a drive that uses 4KB phisical sectors but tell theOS it is 512B for compatibility. it is explained in the wiki the problems that this causes and what is the solution. align the partitions to the first MB something newer tools know how to do it
[11:25] <jo-erlend> mickster04: 182401 cylinders * 4 = 729604 sectors? 729604 sectors * 4096 = 2988457984 Bytes? This is a 1.5TB disk...
[11:25] <pwillman> I used wubi install software to get it installed under windowd, but after first boot it says that .iso is unavailable
[11:25] <NielsMkn> :O
[11:26] <NielsMkn> I had the same problem once
[11:26] <sinisterstuf> ikonia, gaurav_help to change the appearance settings of GDM type the following in a terminal: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/
[11:26] <gaurav_help> i just download a theme tat was install but when i activate tat its shows me u don't install icons but i am seeing tat icin folder is inside tat
[11:26] <poss> So any ideas where I should look next for hardware failure?
[11:26] <pwillman> And if I use iso burned to cd, it doesn't find my hdd
[11:26] <sinisterstuf> gaurav_help, then log out to change the settings
[11:26] <ikonia> poss: it could be ram/cpu/psu/disks anything
[11:26] <sinisterstuf> gaurav_help, when you are done login again and type in a terminal: sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[11:27] <jo-erlend> erUSUL: the problem is that I dont have an operating system and I cant spend hours installing ubuntu just to get a partition editor so I can install ubuntu one more time. It would take all day.
[11:27] <sinisterstuf> gaurav_help, that's pretty much the only theming you can do to GDM, if you want to do more you'll have to install a different login manager like SLiM
[11:27] <poss> ikonia, it is not my computer, it is my uncles computer, i just hit update and now im stuck fixing it, please, I am just asking where to look next, i've been working on this for days
[11:27] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: becouse an ubuntu or any other recent linux livecd is so hard to get ...
[11:27] <ikonia> poss: I've just told you what it could be,
[11:28] <poss> anything.
[11:28] <poss> incredibly useful
[11:28] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, I recommend you to avoid using wubi install, it is preferable to put the CD in and reboot to boot from the Ubuntu CD so that Ubuntu does the installing instead of Windows!
[11:28] <ikonia> poss: don't get smart, it could be anyone of those core components, set about testing them
[11:28] <jarreboum> my, I go unnoticed here too. Oh well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690690
[11:29] <poss> ok, i've already tested the hard drives, one was failing so i took it out, the remaining one reports no problems. I've run a full grub mem diagnostic, it came back clean that leaves cpu and power supply, and i have no idea how to test those
[11:29] <ikonia> poss: how long did your memtest take ?
[11:30] <poss> about an hour
[11:30] <ikonia> poss: it should take about 18-24 hours to run a full set of tests
[11:30] <pwillman> Sinisterstuf, yeah, i tried that, but then ubuntu can't find my hdd... Only my usb hdd which I use as backup device
[11:30] <jo-erlend> erUSUL: can you explain what this means? For 4KiB physical sector offset-by-one drives, PSS is 4096, LSS 512 and AOFF 3584 and with n of 7 the above becomes,
[11:30] <ikonia> poss: you need to let it run for multiple passes
[11:30] <poss> o.O
[11:30] <poss> woah ok
[11:30] <poss> well then I'll do that
[11:30] <poss> thankyou
[11:30] <ikonia> poss: there are some good guides on the net about how to use memtest
[11:31] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, if it is Ubuntu 10.10 it might have small text at the bottom saying there are other partitions (eg. Windows partitions) that are hidden and to use the Advanced partitioning tool to view them
[11:31] <ikonia> poss: there are also good guides on the net to test things like psu/cpu/ram/overheating problems/voltage stablility issues etc
[11:32] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: no; i can not. i am not a storage hardware engeenier nor i do have to writte ata drivers for the linux kernel. others take care of that for me. but i quote « Overall, distributions being released after Spring of 2010 with the updated tools shouldn't have much problem aligning and dealing with 4KiB physical sector drives. If you are working on or testing a distro, please make sure all storage related tools are up-to-date and aligning disks pr
[11:32] <yarekt> poss, ubuntu install can never break the hardware, if you unplug everything except CDRom, CPU, Memory and PSU and if the Live CD still freezes, then its a hw problem for sure. The do come at most unsuspecting times
[11:33] <pwillman> Sinisterstuf, oh I need to check it again then when I get home from work. I hope that works like that... Thank you for your help.
[11:33] <sinisterstuf> jarreboum, unfortunately I'm really unfamiliar with your problem, the only thing I can think of is to install testdisk or photorec to try to recover your data that way, even after formatting a drive, data from that drive can usually still be recovered (I've done it with those tools)
[11:34] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, you're welcome, I hope that solves your problem, it hides them to stop you from accidentally reformatting your windows partition etc.
[11:34] <mys> Ubuntu Maverick :Hi , I'm chrooting an application from my laptop to my netbook on the same network(same ip address) and I always get :  export DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:34] <mys>  then  minitube: cannot connect to X server :0.0 .I already disabled the nolisten tcp on my kdm configuration .Could somebody help me , please.
[11:34] <jarreboum> thank you sinisterstuf
[11:34] <sinisterstuf> jarreboum, you're welcome, I hope that helps
[11:34] <ikonia> mys: you can't do that from within a chroot
[11:34] <ikonia> mys: it will be running the binaries of your chroot against the running display of your X server outside the chroot
[11:35] <jo-erlend> erUSUL: I am trying to install 10.04. But I dont suppose the new distros have a database of all harddisks, or do they? Otherwise, how would they know that this is a 4096B disk when it doesnt say so?
[11:35] <pwillman> Sinisterstuf, and ubuntu understands sata drives right?
[11:35] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, that's right
[11:36] <mys> Thanks for your quick answer ikonia .why I did succeded to do it with a Xephyr and another X display .I want to display an application of the chroot on my current X display.
[11:36] <pwillman> Sinisterstuf, cool, thank you for help
[11:37] <ikonia> mys: your environment within the chroot for 0:0 is the consoles that's already running outside your chroot
[11:37] <sinisterstuf> pwillman, you're welcome :)
[11:38] <Arney> My ubuntu installation fails just as badly when I have my usb inserted, as when I do not
[11:39] <mys> ikonia: ? .I don't care which cli commands I have to type , It's just that I want to display a gui app from the chroot on the X display I 'm currently using.If you could be so kind to explain me the right steps, it would be so welcome.
[11:40] <ania> join #poland
[11:40] <ania> #join
[11:41] <erUSUL> jo-erlend: ok; it looks like you made up your mind and nothing i say is going to change it.
[11:41] <erUSUL> ania: /join #poland
[11:41] <Bilz> hello. how do i get the size of a directory through the terminal?? ls -s doesnt give it
[11:42] <erUSUL> Bilz: du -hs dir/
[11:43] <Bilz> erUSUL, thanks
[11:48] <yarekt> Does anyone know how of a file which i can put an environment variable for *every* process on the system which can also do bash type shell expansions `command` ?
[11:50] <yarekt> including thouse that run init.d scripts
[11:57] <gaurav_help> i have file with name .tar.gz but when i installing it shows me error when i am insatlling in themes it is theme packages .. its shows me can move directory
[11:59] <Arney> fuck my life. There was an sd card stub on my laptop, linux thought that that was the usb. So it didnt find any files
[11:59] <sinisterstuf> what manpage gives info about signals eg SIGKILL, SIGTERM etc.?
[11:59] <red2kic> gaurav_help: Look in ~/.themes
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> !language| Arney
[11:59] <erUSUL> !language
[11:59] <erUSUL> sinisterstuf: man kill
[11:59] <nagel182> hello again..
[11:59] <sinisterstuf> erUSUL, perfect, thanks!
[11:59] <erUSUL> sinisterstuf: what info are you looking for?
[12:00] <nagel182> is here any apache2 guru?
[12:00] <sinisterstuf> erUSUL, I just wanted to find out more about the numbers and what commands they correspond to
[12:00] <erUSUL> nagel182: probably more in #httpd
[12:01] <thornbird> @sinisterstuff:  You can try kill -l on your command-line.
[12:01] <sacarlson> poss: even if memtest passes I would try at least reposition your mem sims to opposite positions if that fails try run with just one sim instead of two if both sims fail individualy and all other devices are disabled then I"m out of ideas
[12:01] <gaurav_help> red2kic, i installed but its showing required icon theme is not installed but i see the icons folder r inside tat
[12:03] <jarreboum> fyi I just did a fsck on my faulty disk. After a little struggle, it apparently retrieved successfully my /home partition. I'm rebooting now, wish me luck.
[12:03] <red2kic> gaurav_help: It should go in ~/.icons
[12:04] <red2kic> gaurav_help: The theme you downloaded -- The author did not do it properly.
[12:04] <sinisterstuf> thornbird, what is the -l option for?
[12:04] <red2kic> gaurav_help: Or you didn't read the README.txt (if any).
[12:04] <LikesFruit> i just installed the restricted drives on ubuntu 10.10. then i run the command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, so the changes would take effect. but the GUI does not show backup how can i remove what i did via the terminal. i do not want to restart my computer becuase i am using the live CD
[12:05] <thornbird> kill -l will list all the signals supported on your system.
[12:07] <sinisterstuf> thornbird, cool, thanks!
[12:07] <thornbird> No problem.
[12:08] <pingfloyd> nooooooooooooobs!!!!!!!
[12:16] <XLV> anyone can help with transferring a ubuntu 10.10 64bit installation to a new hdd? i transfered it from a 640GB to a 2TB hdd, along with two ntfs partitions, one 257GB xp that remained, one win7 64 that was grown to 1.4TB, and the linux that was grown to 100GB and a 4GB swap partition.. now i just cant get grub to install correctly
[12:16] <jkprg> Hi. I have limited speed per connection. Do you know any tool that can download file through HTTP in several parallel streams with offset? Thx
[12:17] <XLV> jkprg, crude solution, but try orbit downloader through wine
[12:17] <Odaym> when i see a "c" in "ls -l"
[12:17] <Odaym> that means....
[12:17] <Odaym> i know the word
[12:17] <Odaym> l is link
[12:17] <sinisterstuf> jkprg, read the manpage for wget, there's a chance it might have a solution for you, it's very flexible
[12:17] <yarekt> jkprg, axel
[12:17] <Odaym> - is file, d is dir..
[12:17] <erUSUL> Odaym: character device
[12:17] <Odaym> character device
[12:17] <Odaym> ok
[12:18] <Odaym> and b is BLOCK device
[12:18] <erUSUL> !info axel | XLV
[12:18] <jkprg> thx guys
[12:18] <yarekt> sinisterstuf, jkprg, wget cant do it, and neither can curl
[12:18] <erUSUL> !details | XLV
[12:18] <erUSUL> !details | jkprg
[12:19] <erUSUL> sorry
[12:19] <erUSUL> jkprg: the axel info was mweant for you. axel can do multithreath connections
[12:19]  * erUSUL needs more coffee
[12:19] <sinisterstuf> ^
[12:19] <XLV> erUSUL, well, what more details? i tried everything i know, checked UUIDs, tried installing grub with grub-install /dev/sda, it produced no errors, but on the next boot i was dropped to a grub shell
[12:20] <yarekt> there is a newer one than axel tho, but the name escapes me
[12:20] <erUSUL> XLV: with no error message?
[12:20] <XLV> erUSUL, no error message, just a grub shell
[12:20] <sacarlson> xlv: I guess I would just create the needed partitions with the desired sizes with gparted then just  from a live cd or system you don't plan to move yet mount the from to disk partitions and sudo cp -a /from/path/  /to/path/  I guess maybe some /etc/fstab mods would also be needed, then install grub2
[12:21] <Odaym> i've got my coffee here
[12:21] <Odaym> < happy camper
[12:22] <XLV> sacarlson, the partitions i moved ( i used acronis true image for the ntfs ones and gparted from the linux ones ) are all readable/mountable from within a ubuntu livecd, dont see how using cp instead of gparted would alter anything
[12:23] <thechef> Is there a tool to do set operations on filesystem directories? Such as: copy all files that are in directory A and that are not in directory B to directory C?
[12:23] <Odaym> what if i enter "watch ls -A &"
[12:23] <Odaym> this operation will keep running in the background?
[12:23] <sacarlson> xlv: I guess gparted copy might work also but what happens to the uuid on the new disks?
[12:24] <Odaym> aha, it works
[12:24] <Odaym> and it gives me an id for it
[12:24] <Odaym> now i can 'fg' it
[12:24] <XLV> sacarlson, checked them... they are the same
[12:25] <erUSUL> XLV: grub-install /dev/sda is not enough afaik you have to pass --root-directory=DIR
[12:25] <XLV> sacarlson, with blkid from within a ubuntu live cd
[12:25] <erUSUL> XLV: or grub wont find grub.cfg and other files it needs to boot
[12:25] <XLV> erUSUL, did that.. i also chrooted
[12:25] <sacarlson> xlv: then I guess all that's left is grub2 install but maybe gparted does that too?
[12:26] <XLV> erUSUL, tried once with grub-install --root-directory= it failed, second time with chroot ( and didnt use the --root-directory ) it faled again
[12:26] <WritMx> hi
[12:26] <sacarlson> xlv: if grub needs install then all that's left is sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[12:27] <openSUSEkorisnik> Any chrome users have issues with uploading photos which causes a crash?
[12:28] <XLV> sacarlson, already tried that.. with both possible ways ( --root-directory and chroot )
[12:28] <sacarlson> xlv: sda1 = sdaX  depending on your boot partition location  and if you have a  separate /boot partition then you might need to see something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/562593/
[12:28] <Odaym> how many commands does 'history' store?
[12:28] <sier> have brasileiro here ?
[12:28] <erUSUL> XLV: did you run sudo update-grub in the chroot ?
[12:28] <Odaym> isn't it 500?
[12:29] <XLV> sacarlson, no separate boot partition.. sda1 is the right hdd
[12:29] <erUSUL> XLV: grub promt with no error message points to missing or wrong grub.cfg
[12:29] <XLV> erUSUL, yes.. and grub-mkdevices and all
[12:29] <sacarlson> xlv: so what's the problem then?  you getting errors?
[12:29] <antivirtel> hello!
[12:29] <WritMx> I can't speak English
[12:29] <WritMx> I can't speak English
[12:29] <WritMx> I can't speak English
[12:29] <FloodBot3> WritMx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <XLV> sacarlson, no errors, just a grub shell and nothing else
[12:30] <djd> if iam using a shell how do i open the current directory in a window
[12:30] <erUSUL> djd: nautilus .
[12:30] <erUSUL> djd: note the dot
[12:30] <sacarlson> xlv: grub shell with no selections?
[12:30] <XLV> sacarlson, yes
[12:30] <antivirtel> I'm looking for some FREE methods, how to share an USB device over lan; the better is from win, to ubuntu... is it possible for free?
[12:31] <sacarlson> xlv: ok lets see from your live cd boot ,  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[12:31] <SniperShot> Hi everybody.
[12:31] <djd> erUSUL:i doesn seem to work
[12:31] <erUSUL> antivirtel: i dunno in windows... in linux there is a driver to do usb over ip iirc
[12:31] <Odaym> lol @ | pastebinit
[12:31] <erUSUL> djd: it does
[12:31] <djd> erUSUL:.nautilus?
[12:32] <antivirtel> erUSUL ok, I look for "iirc"
[12:32] <erUSUL> djd: no « nautilus . »
[12:32] <erUSUL> antivirtel: iirc is if i recall correctly
[12:32] <djd> thank you
[12:33] <djd> erUSUL:in my shell it works without the .
[12:33] <sier> have polak here ?
[12:33] <erUSUL> !pl
[12:34] <Odaym> "sudo !!" repeats the previous command with root permissions
[12:34] <Odaym> never knew :o
[12:34] <SniperShot> Please, can someone give me a link about installation issues for Ubuntu 10.04 and Xubuntu 10.04? I'm having problems with alternate CD installation on old PCs.
[12:34] <elderman> Hello, I had trouble logging in to my non-admin account today after adding an rsa key pair to my key chain.  Two function declarations in .profile didn't work and so prevented log-in.  I fixed it by commenting out the function syntax in .profile, but would like to know how to fix it for good, and not through the hack.  My ubuntuforums thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690726.
[12:34] <sacarlson> xlv: also lets see sudo blkid | pastebinit;  cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[12:34] <antivirtel> erUSUL can you link that? i have no result :(
[12:35] <sacarlson> xlv: note the /etc/fstab from the partition you chose in grub2 install
[12:35] <erUSUL> antivirtel: http://usbip.sourceforge.net/
[12:35] <erUSUL> antivirtel: it only works in linux machines
[12:36] <erUSUL> Odaym: !! is expanded by the shell. see history expansion in man bash
[12:36] <antivirtel> erUSUL ok, thanks, I look at it
[12:36] <erUSUL> XLV: have you tried to boot the machine like this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Using CLI to Boot <<< ?
[12:36] <yarekt> does every shell on the system source /etc/profile ? including ones started by php's exec() ?
[12:37] <Odaym> erUSUL, i can keep piping to infinity, usually?
[12:38] <madjoe> is there a substitute in bash to show my system properties? something like when you click to see your PC config in GUI?
[12:38] <sier> ok
[12:38] <Odaym> man bash | grep 'history expansion' >> history | less history | wc
[12:38] <erUSUL> yarekt: only login shells use profile afaik
[12:38] <erUSUL> madjoe: lshw
[12:38] <yarekt> erUSUL, where do other shells get their path from?
[12:38] <erUSUL> Odaym: that is not correct
[12:39] <madjoe> erUSUL: thanks
[12:39] <erUSUL> yarekt: /etc/environment ? they inherit it from their parents?
[12:39] <yarekt> erUSUL, true. thanks
[12:39] <Zoffix> Hi. I'm on 10.04 here, and I'd like to upgrade to 10.10, but there's no "New Distribution Available" button in the Update Manager... how come?
[12:40] <mys> see in synapticks if you have enabled show all distributions for upgrades
[12:40] <erUSUL> Zoffix: you may have to enable normal updates in the system>admin..>software sources in the updates tab at the bottom
[12:40] <antivirtel> thanks erUSUL :) it has windows client :) it might be useful :)
[12:41] <erUSUL> antivirtel: good to know
[12:41] <yarekt> erUSUL, what about init scripts. they are launched by init. but some of them seem to source /etc/default/rcS
[12:41] <Mavrik> um, how do I disable "right click" when I tap with two fingers on my touchpad? It's annoying with two-finger scrolling enabled.
[12:41] <erUSUL> Mavrik: try in System>Preferences>Mouse...
[12:42] <Zoffix> erUSUL, mys, thanks, that was it! I had "LTC Only" selected :)
[12:42] <Mavrik> erUSUL: I did, there's only the option to disable all tap-to-click functionality
[12:42] <erUSUL> Zoffix: no problem. is the default setting ( LTS only that's it )
[12:43] <elderman> Has anyone else had this problem of not being able to log in after first adding a key to the rsa keychain?
[12:43] <erUSUL> Mavrik: then i dunno
[12:43] <mys> Zoffix,Be aware of saving your informations first as well as the configuration you use as there can be some borking .
[12:43] <raheel> hi there
[12:43] <Zoffix> mys, thanks for the heads up!
[12:43] <billmania> How do I get my Samsung phone to automatically connect to my ubuntu 10.10 computer, so I can transfer the photos from the phone to the computer?
[12:46] <raheel> hi there i have setup cups
[12:46] <raheel> one day a user printed 100 pages in a single job
[12:46] <raheel> i need to  know how to limit the maximum "pages per job"
[12:46] <raheel> i really need some help
[12:47] <Odaym> 'top' keeps watching for the highest processes and updates every 2 seconds?
[12:47] <SpeedrunnerG55> how should i maintain my ubuntu computer?
[12:48] <Odaym> very general question, SpeedrunnerG55
[12:48] <Odaym> !issue | SpeedrunnerG55
[12:48] <Odaym> what is that command?
[12:48] <Odaym> just be more specific is all, SpeedrunnerG55
[12:48] <elderman> billmania, I have a Samsung phone
[12:48] <SpeedrunnerG55> disc janitor
[12:48] <elderman> I'm connecting it now
[12:49] <elderman> I don't think I've ever had trouble
[12:49] <billmania> elderman: Great. My vendor and product ID are 05c6:1000
[12:49] <SpeedrunnerG55> what should i do with disc janitor
[12:49] <raheel> can any one help me how to setup the maximum pages PER JOB using cups or lpadmin
[12:49] <Guest65240> Odaym: you can tune update by -d
[12:50]  * Guest65240 juk
[12:50] <XLV> !sources.list
[12:50] <openSUSEkorisnik> Anyone have resolved crash issue on Google chrome whenuploading?
[12:50] <elderman> billmania, I don't know what to do with that
[12:50] <SpeedrunnerG55> it comes up with a list of linux headders, should i "do the list of selected items?"
[12:50] <billmania> elderman: What to do with the vendor and product ID?
[12:50] <elderman> are those Canonical numbers?
[12:50] <elderman> yeah, I'm a visitor here like you
[12:50] <billmania> Can you run "lsusb" on your computer, after your Samsung phone is connected?
[12:51] <SpeedrunnerG55> idk
[12:51] <victor> hello, can anyone help me with a user password problem please?
[12:51] <stianhj> SpeedrunnerG55, what kind of samsung phone is it?
[12:51] <SpeedrunnerG55> phone?
[12:52] <billmania> stianhj: I have the Samsung SCH-U640, 05c6:1000.
[12:52] <stianhj> sorry, that was meant for billmania
[12:52] <raheel> i really need help on this one am tired googling
[12:52] <billmania> stianhj: I have the Samsung SCH-U640, 05c6:1000.
[12:52] <raheel> i really need help on this one am tired googling
[12:53] <stianhj> billmania, have you checkout wammu?
[12:53] <sacarlson> raheel: I found something http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/accounting.html  seems as easy as /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p printer -o job-quota-period=604800 \     -o job-page-limit=100 ENTER
[12:53] <stianhj> billmania, probably not right.. but wammu.eu
[12:54] <billmania> stianhj: No, I don't know what "wammu" is. Let me search a bit now.
[12:54] <elderman> billmania, I'm searching for the right cable.  Hopefully stianhj can help you better than I can
[12:54] <raheel> sacarlson thanks but this would limit for pages for a period that you have defined. what if some one sends a documents with 100 pages how to limit that to say 5
[12:55] <billmania> elderman: OK. Let me know once your Samsung phone is connected. I'd like to see if you have the same model as I have.
[12:55] <Odaym> SpeedrunnerG55, do you have a firewall up?
[12:55] <sacarlson> raheel:  maybe make the period smaller,  how long does it take to print 5 pages?  make that the period
[12:55] <victor> hello, can anyone help me with a user password problem please?
[12:56] <billmania> victor: Describe your password problem.
[12:56] <juk> !ask | victor
[12:56] <mys> What's the pb victor
[12:56] <juk> !repeat | victor
[12:56] <victor> ok thank you
[12:56] <victor> here the problem
[12:56] <SpeedrunnerG55> ughh i dont tknow. is it a default feature?
[12:57] <Odaym> it is there by default, but it is not enabled
[12:57] <Odaym> go to terminal, SpeedrunnerG55, and be patient :P
[12:57] <Odaym> type "sudo ufw enable"
[12:57] <Bodsda> Hi - I have a HP photosmart C4700 Printer/Scanner/Copier that is connected to my wifi network. It works really well, when I use xsane to scan. But My printer has an option that allows it to scan to the PC (the printer initiating the scan, not xsane) but it doesnt seem to work. It just times out. I know that connection issues are out of the picture as it works from xsane. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there a setting in xsane I can set to allow this
[12:57] <raheel> but if some one has by mistake sent a huge document for printing those pages will still get printed even if i try to reduce the period limit to say 10 seconds
[12:58] <juk> raheel: why you think it's related to cups?
[12:58] <Odaym> now it is up, SpeedrunnerG55, now you can "sudo apt-get install firestarter", Firestarter is a GUI tool to manage this firewall that you have put up, it is NOT the firewall itself, so leaving it or exiting it will not stop the firewall from being up
[12:59] <raheel> juk i dont think it is related to cups. i just need any solution to control the maximum page limit PER JOB. that is it!
[12:59] <victor> when i change the password of the user 'victor' on my laptop and i reboot, the "startx" session crash
[13:00] <juk> raheel: isn't *one* who prints supposed to know how many pages one needs?
[13:00] <victor> at booting, it says something like "Nautilus is unable to create the folder .Desktop"
[13:00] <Stevezau> anyone know how to stop ubuntu detecting a ir receiver as a keyboard or how to disable it ?? hal or?
[13:00] <erUSUL> juk: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/ref-printers-conf.html <<< search PageLimit in that page
[13:01] <raheel> juk ofcourse. but most of the times a single documents has more than 20 pages. and if the user sends the complete document all pages are printed. i wanna know is it even possible to limit max pages per job or not?
[13:02] <raheel> any help sacarlson
[13:02] <LogicallyDashing> How do I make a custom Ubuntu LinneCD?
[13:02] <sacarlson> raheel: so you didn't like my last idea?
[13:02] <Fuwex> Hi
[13:03] <erUSUL> !remaster
[13:03] <jenia> How do I configure gnome, so that it starts in compiz mode instead of me starting it every time, when I load gnome?
[13:03] <erUSUL> raheel: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/ref-printers-conf.html <<< search PageLimit in that page
[13:04] <raheel> sacarlson i like it but after giving it a thought i think the document will still be in the pending list and will print
[13:04] <erUSUL> jenia: System>Preferences>appearance||effects tab.
[13:05] <elderman> billmania, still looking
[13:05] <raheel> sacarlson it will only stop accepting jobs for that e.g 10 sec period
[13:05] <sacarlson> raheel:  well you can always reset cups to kill all pending stuf in some cron every 5min or whatever you set your period to
[13:05] <elderman> billmania, obviously I don't use it often
[13:06] <billmania> elderman: OK. I found the Wammu site which stian mentioned. It's http://wammu.eu/phones. My particular Samsung doesn't appear to be supported by Wammu/Gammu.
[13:06] <jenia> erUSUL: It doesn't work, I change it in effects, then when I restart computer, or logout-logon from-to gnome, the effects are off again and I have to turn it on again. Maybe there is some config file I can check.
[13:07] <erUSUL> jenia: brute force solution. install and use fusion-icon
[13:07] <sacarlson> raheel: but I'm sure someone with bad luck will hit the moment he prints one the window that it resets and losses pages but sounds like no mater what system you use they will loose pages anyway
[13:08] <raheel> sacarlson may be but i am not so sure.
[13:09] <juk> erUSUL: ah, thanks, i lag a bit today
[13:09] <juk> raheel: /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p printername -o job-page-limit=1234
[13:10] <erUSUL> anyway he should be asking in ##cups imho
[13:10] <backslash7> Hi folks, what's the most recent kernel version available in 10.10?
[13:10] <sacarlson> raheel: I have another more involved idea that requires your cron bash script to only reset if it detects a print que in progress give it time to print 5 sheets then reset
[13:11] <erUSUL> !info linux-kernel
[13:11] <erUSUL> !info linux-image
[13:11] <brontoeee> kernel is optional? :)
[13:12] <raheel> juk your idea of using /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p printername -o job-page-limit=1234 will stop printing after 1234 amount of pages has been reached. that is the maximum quota for that printer not for a single job
[13:12] <erUSUL> brontoeee: linux-image *meta*package is :P
[13:12] <raheel> sacarlson yeah maybe that would work what do you precisely suggest?
[13:13] <victor>  when i change the password of the user 'victor' on my laptop and i reboot, the "startx" session crash. At booting, it says something like "Nautilus is unable to create the folder .Desktop". I have to re change the new password for the older one and the session works. I'm thinking about a file where the password isn't change correctly ?
[13:13] <dvolaart> Isthere a way to turn on youre wireless? i've a ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11g Wireless in my asus A9RP. lsusb shows me this: ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11g Wireless. can i turn the wireless on?
[13:13] <backslash7> erUSUL: Is 2.6.35 the most recent kernel available on 10.10?
[13:14] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[13:14] <erUSUL> yes
[13:14] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[13:14] <erUSUL> backslash7: yes
[13:14] <MysterX> Isthere a way to turn on youre wireless? i've a ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11g Wireless in my asus A9RP. lsusb shows me this: ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11g Wireless. can i turn the wireless on?
[13:14] <backslash7> erUSUL: thanks
[13:14] <juk> victor: can you pastebin crach log
[13:15] <victor> juk: is there a crash report in a file ?
[13:15] <sacarlson> raheel: I suggest you just use the que limits already provided in cups,  if you want to add my script idea that's up to you
[13:15] <juk> victor: or perhaps report bug
[13:15] <MysterX> someone knows an awnser to my question?
[13:15] <Salad222> hi
[13:16] <Salad222> this might be a stupid question but how can i get "real" root user on ubuntu?
[13:16] <LjL> !root | Salad222
[13:16] <erUSUL> raheel: according to cups docs job-page-limit aplies to jobs which is not surprising given the name it has
[13:16] <juk> victor: you were saying startx charshes, it should be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:16] <Senjai> Salad222, yes
[13:16] <Senjai> Salad222, you can
[13:16] <victor> juk : ok, i will reboot and get the correct error message. Be back
[13:16] <juk> victor: cheers
[13:16] <erUSUL> raheel: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/accounting.html
[13:17] <Senjai> Salad222, what do you need? Graphical root or terminal root?
[13:17] <LjL> !noroot | Senjai
[13:17] <silverlightning> hi
[13:17] <raheel> erUSUL i am going to double check it and try it once again right now and let you know of the result
[13:17] <LjL> Salad222: just use "sudo -i" if you need a root shell
[13:17] <MysterX> ubottu: do know how to turn on wireless? i've an Zydas ZD1211.
[13:17] <MysterX> lol
[13:17] <erUSUL> raheel: here in the docs « For quotas to be enforced, the period and at least one of the limits must be set to a non-zero value.  »
[13:17] <Senjai> !wifi | MysterX
[13:17] <silverlightning> do you know if mintlinux is a version of Ubuntu linux?
[13:18] <silverlightning> the do seem to be related
[13:18] <LjL> silverlightning: it's an unofficial derivative (it's not supported here)
[13:18] <Bodsda> silverlightning: its not
[13:18] <jiohdi> silverlightning, they are both built from debian
[13:18] <silverlightning> I see
[13:18] <erUSUL> raheel: again you should be asking this kind of stuff in ##cups
[13:18] <elderman> Does anyone know a good place to get help with rsa, ssh, and logging in.  I've had trouble accessing one of my accounts.
[13:18] <silverlightning> I have the regular Ubuntu
[13:18] <jiohdi> silverlightning, mint has more restricted stuff from the get go other than that its about the same
[13:18] <skilz> how do I kill the x session? ctrl+alt+bkspce does not work
[13:18] <Senjai> If you have ubuntu, here :)
[13:19] <silverlightning> I have Maveric
[13:19] <MysterX> thanks Senjai i will search further :D
[13:19] <Fuwex> What would be the best way of booting into X and running a single application on that X server as a normal user? I'm working on an application which is intended for a single-user environment. The computer should boot, start X and run the application on the X server, without any interference from a login window (e.g. gdm) or window manager.
[13:19] <Senjai> elderman, if it's about networking, perhaps #networking, but we can try here
[13:19] <silverlightning> I have some issues with booting
[13:19] <Senjai> !ask | silverlightning
[13:19] <Senjai> Whats up?
[13:19] <Senjai> :)
[13:19] <Bodsda> skilz: ctrl+alt+bkspace can be turned on or off in xorg.conf or with the dontzap package
[13:20] <elderman> Senjai, it's not really about networking.  I added an rsa pair to my keyring, then couldn't log in.  Found the problem in my .profile, hacked it, but would like to figure out how to fix it better.
[13:20] <Bodsda> skilz: try something like   killall Xorg
[13:20] <erUSUL> !dontzap | skilz
[13:21] <silverlightning> Booting is a bit irregular, it sometimes stops with the Ubuntu logo, and I have to retry
[13:21] <Senjai> elderman, I wish I could help you more with that :(
[13:21] <Senjai> !msg the bot | Senjai
[13:21] <elderman> Senjai, thank you
[13:21] <Stevezau> if im on a linux terminal and i have a device which registers its self as a keyboard to the kernel, what is listening for the events of that keyboard?? Im trying to disable one of the keyboards..
[13:23] <billmania> elderman: Any luck connecting your Samsung phone to your computer?
[13:23] <elderman> the cable is MIA, I'm afraid
[13:23] <elderman> very sorry
[13:23] <MysterX> Senjai: i am looking on the page youre giving.. the wireless chip is not in the list.. but i think ubuntu reconse it it hink
[13:23] <billmania> elderman: No worries. I'll keep digging on my end.
[13:24] <elderman> billmania, I'm going to give another look 'round the flat...
[13:24] <billmania> elderman: Thanks.
[13:24] <Senjai> MysterX, what wireless card are you using
[13:24] <Senjai> MysterX, have you installed a driver for it yet?
[13:24] <MysterX> Senjai: ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11g Wireless
[13:25] <Senjai> Your on 10.10 right? Have you installed its' driver?
[13:25] <MysterX> no not installed a driver at all... i hoped that ubunthu its reconized...
[13:26] <Senjai> Ubuntu does recognize major cards, and then recognizes that a driver needs to be installed and fetches it for you
[13:26] <MysterX> so lsusb shows me this: ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11g Wireless doesn't mean that he installed the driver...
[13:27] <Senjai> Hmm.
[13:27] <victor> juk : i have change my password, then reboot and here the error messages that i got : First one "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/victor/.ICEauthority", Second "Nautilus could not create the following required folders /home/victor/Desktop, /home/victor/.nautilus. Before running Nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that Nautilus can create them"
[13:27] <Senjai> Is this an external wireless card?
[13:28] <MysterX> Senjai: no.. but for my .. what does lsusb shows?
[13:29] <Senjai> one sec
[13:29] <Senjai> MysterX, Ill try and help figure this out with you
[13:30] <sacarlson> victor: sounds like you might of had an encrypted /home/user ,  when you change password on the acount the encyption password is not changed
[13:30] <Senjai>   lsusb  is  a  utility for displaying information about USB buses in the
[13:30] <Senjai>        system and the devices connected to them
[13:30] <raheel> ok GUYs i have tried out the command /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p printername -o job-page-limit=5 and when i send a print of any number of pages less or more than five i get error could not print. the /var/log/cups/error.log contains Returning IPP client-error-not-possible for Create-Job (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1610) from localhost WHAT TO DO???
[13:30] <Senjai> You can't enable the device?
[13:30] <rany27> I once typed a command to reveal a specific host computer's name and I got a lot of information about that specific computer identified by an IP i gave. What was that command? can you help me remember?
[13:30] <Senjai> MysterX, You can't enable the device?
[13:30] <raheel> removing the job limit resumes printing
[13:31] <Senjai> rany27, whois? nslookup?
[13:31] <MysterX> Senjai: i would if i know how.. fn+f2 doesn't work
[13:31] <rany27> Senjai: I'll try those but just saying that I got a LOT of information. even the server's owner's name. Can I get this information with whois and nslookup?
[13:32] <Senjai> MysterX, Have you tried hooking it up to ethernet? It might force the wireless to update
[13:32] <sacarlson> raheel: I guess without a quota period it won't work
[13:32] <rany27> Senjai: whois sounds familiar.
[13:32] <Senjai> rany27, it's whois
[13:32] <Senjai> rany27, thats what you want
[13:32] <rany27> Senjai: Thanks a lot.
[13:32] <MysterX> Senjai: i am on ehternet right know
[13:32] <victor> sacarlson : no i haven't encrypted folders. But how can i be sure of it?
[13:32] <Senjai> MysterX, Duh.. lol
[13:32] <MysterX> i've also run the update :D
[13:33] <Senjai> MysterX, run sudo ifconfig
[13:33] <sacarlson> victor: you can see with sudo mount
[13:33] <Senjai> and put the output to pastebin.com
[13:33] <zamba> how can i disable the lock on the screensaver globally?
[13:33] <Fuwex> I'll simplify my earlier question: what is the best way of launching the X server at boot? (I don't want to launch any window managers or login (gdm))
[13:34] <Fuwex> Ubuntu 10.10, that is
[13:34] <blkdg> hello, i am using ubuntu 10.4. 32 bit, and it is completely patched.  It has a SIS integrated video card.  I have turned the screen saver off. When I Suspend the machine, the monitor turns Off.  How can I get it to function after the Suspend ends?
[13:34] <victor> sacarlson : no encrypted folders
[13:34] <elderman> billmania, I apologize.  No luck.  Well and truly gone.  (found a lot of other other things of no use to you...)
[13:34] <XLV> erUSUL, sacarlson thanks.. fixed it.. erUSUL you were right, grub.cfg wasnt there, needed an upgrade to grub2, now it boots. thanks again
[13:34] <billmania> elderman: Thanks for trying. It will turn up when and where you least expect it.
[13:34] <raheel> let me try and set the quota period too to 5 secs and see.
[13:34] <blkdg> Fuwex, try startx
[13:34] <MysterX> Senjai: http://pastebin.com/VTmtRCMJ
[13:35] <Senjai> Fuwex, I'm just gonna guess and say, delete the window manager?
[13:35] <MysterX> he has ha wlan0
[13:35] <MysterX> device
[13:35] <billmania> elderman: I'm chasing down pmount and usbmount now. No luck with gammu/wammu.
[13:35] <sacarlson> XLV: oh I never thought about not having grub2 installed very good
[13:35] <Senjai> MysterX, one sec
[13:35] <Fuwex> blkdg, Senjai: simply having Xorg installed doesn't make it launch at boot
[13:35] <elderman> I'm going to look at what of those I have installed
[13:36] <XLV> so people.. if you had upgraded to 10.10 from previous ubuntu versions ( i had that distrib for ages and upgraded through subsequent releases ) ... UPGRADE TO GRUB2 before it makes you pull your hair out
[13:36] <XLV> sacarlson, its been busting my balls since yesterday afternoon
[13:36] <Fuwex> In earlier versions of Ubuntu you could use something like a script in /etc/init.rd/local . But this doesn't work all this well anymore, I gather
[13:36] <XLV> sh*t
[13:36] <elderman> billmania, I have pmount installed
[13:37] <Senjai> Fuwex, System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications, dont know the command line equiv
[13:37] <elderman> not the others
[13:37] <blkdg> Fuwex, you need to config X. try X -configure
[13:37] <Senjai> MysterX, Try: System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers
[13:37] <elderman> and my Samsung phone connected without a hitch
[13:37] <XLV> erUSUL, sacarlson thanks.. fixed it.. erUSUL you were right, grub.cfg wasnt there, needed an upgrade to grub2, now it boots. thanks again ( if you didnt get it cause you disconnected )
[13:37] <MysterX> hmm Senjai already did he pop's up with a modem driver..
[13:37] <Senjai> And... you don't have a modem :P
[13:38] <Fuwex> Senjai: well, I'd like to achieve it on a base system with Xorg as the only package installed. Meaning I don't have a desktop
[13:38] <MysterX> Senjai: yes i do..
[13:38] <Fuwex> blkdg, I'll check it out, thanks
[13:38] <blkdg> Fuwex, then cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:38] <erUSUL> XLV: no problem; glasd i helped ;P
[13:38] <blkdg> Fuwex, http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[13:38] <Senjai> Fuwex,  you're past my knowledge level, sorry I couldn't help you further
[13:38] <erUSUL> glad*
[13:38] <MysterX> Senjai: i must go know.. i should install the modem driver and gome bsck to you
[13:38] <MysterX> thanks for youre time ! :)
[13:38] <Senjai> MysterX, good luck :)
[13:39] <blkdg> Fuwex, then a simple startx from the term should get it going
[13:39]  * Senjai goes back to emacs, query if need anything .
[13:39] <raheel> i set the quota period to 1 sec and page limit to 2 pages but all pages are printing normally STRANGE.....
[13:39] <Fuwex> blkdg: it needs to happen automatically at boot. Essentially, what I need to know, is where I can put a script that launches 'startx' at the proper time during boot :)
[13:40] <Fuwex> Senjai: thanks for your help anyway :)
[13:40] <Senjai|emacs|> Fuwex, best of luck to you :)
[13:40] <Fuwex> Thank you
[13:41] <Fuwex> All right, let's simplify further: How can I make a script launch during boot? Specifically, the last script to run during the boot process
[13:42] <Fuwex> it used to be so simple in earlier versions of Ubuntu, e.g. /etc/init.d/local I think it was
[13:42] <Senjai|emacs|> Fuwex, if you use Grub, can't you edit the pre-boot commands? maybe you could disable things there, just a thought
[13:43] <Fuwex> Senjai|emacs|, I think maybe pre-boot is a little early to start the X server.. Unless I misunderstand you?
[13:43] <Senjai|emacs|> Fuwex, maybe there are flags to prevent loading certain services is what I meant, though I know nothing about linux boot commands
[13:44] <Senjai|emacs|> Fuwex, this is possible for windows (where most of my expertise lies)
[13:44] <sacarlson> Fuwex: I normaly use crontab with @reboot  /home/user/scripttorun.sh ,  in the script I sometimes add sleep to be sure the system is stable before it runs
[13:45] <randomnoob> why is it that when i plug in my headphones i can't hear any audio, but my loudspeakers work perfectly fine?
[13:45] <Senjai|emacs|> sacarlson, so pro :)
[13:45] <Senjai|emacs|> randomnoob, are your loudspeakers external?
[13:45] <randomnoob> Senjai|emacs|: nope, laptop
[13:45] <blkdg> randomnoob, check mixer
[13:45] <randomnoob> blkdg: there are no controls specific to the headphones
[13:46] <Senjai|emacs|> randomnoob, have you tried plugging other speakers in? Check mixer like blkdg said, does your loudspeakers shut off when you hook your headphones in?
[13:46] <randomnoob> or am i looking in the wrong place?
[13:46] <hiexpo> what is the chess game that comesin ubuntu 9.10
[13:46] <joth> I just tried to upgrade the kernel on Maverick, and now my laptop won't boot up; it says there's a problem with /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 - can anyone help please?
[13:46] <blkdg> Fuwex, http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/491-start-x-server-ubuntu-linux.html
[13:46] <randomnoob> Senjai|emacs|: I know that they work if that's what you're asking about and yes, the loudspeakers do shut off
[13:46] <joth> (upgrading to kernel 2.6.36)
[13:46] <victor> sacarlson, juk : thank you for your time. Good bye
[13:47] <randomnoob> Senjai|emacs|: alsamixer doesn't show anything regarding headphones, where exactly should i look?
[13:47] <blkdg> randomnoob, is it a laptop?
[13:47] <randomnoob> blkdg: yep
[13:47] <Fuwex> I did find an /etc/rc.local script. Perhaps this is exactly what I need? I will try it
[13:48] <mah45> Ubuntu do not copy /etc/skel into home directory ! Why ?
[13:48] <mah45> for example .bashrc
[13:48] <Fuwex> blkdg: thanks, but I have no problem starting X, it's just a matter of executing 'startx' at boot :)
[13:48] <blkdg> randomnoob, then Senjai has a point. My laptop's speakers shut off automagically when the jack goes in
[13:49] <juk> victor: did you report a bug?
[13:49] <drizt> hello how do i update package with pkcon ?
[13:49] <drizt> i use Ubuntu 10.04
[13:50] <blkdg> Fuwex, http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-install-startx
[13:50] <Fuwex> all right, I got it working now
[13:50] <victor> juk : no i haven't. I will try to fix it later with one my system teacher. Thank you for your time. Bye
[13:50] <blkdg> Fuwex, cool
[13:50] <Fuwex> seems /etc/rc.local was the script I was looking for
[13:50] <juk> victor: i don't care, whatever
[13:50] <Fuwex> blkdg, but thanks for your help
[13:51] <joth> Has anyone got any ideas?
[13:51] <randomnoob> so... any ideas guys?
[13:51] <Senjai|emacs|> sorry random, zoned out for a bit
[13:51] <blkdg> randomnoob, how may 1/4 inch jacks you got?
[13:51] <randomnoob> np, that's the beauty of irc
[13:51] <speedrunnerG55> i enabled the firewall
[13:52] <speedrunnerG55> now i cant connect to the interney
[13:52] <Senjai|emacs|> I don't have any other ideas. maybe this will help?
[13:52] <randomnoob> blkdg: hmm?
[13:52] <Senjai|emacs|> !sound | randomnoob
[13:52] <blkdg> randomnoob, how many input jacks are there on the laptop
[13:52] <Senjai|emacs|> randomnoob, not sure if anything that can help you is there, worth a check though
[13:52] <Odaym> any supercow
[13:52] <Odaym> what? haha
[13:52] <Odaym> i mean
[13:52] <Odaym> any idea what supercow is?
[13:53] <randomnoob> Senjai|emacs|: I'll check the troubleshooting page, thanks :)
[13:53] <Odaym> speedrunnerG55, "sudo ufw disable"
[13:53] <blkdg> randomnoob, for instance, my line out never works, so I must use the other out line
[13:53] <randomnoob> blkdg: two, one for headphones and one for the mic
[13:53] <blkdg> oh.
[13:53] <blkdg> what sound card is it?
[13:53] <sacarlson> speedrunnerG55: there is really no need for a firewall unless you want to filter certain ports access to different sources
[13:53] <raheel> need help to set max pages per JOB while printing to avoid accidental printing of huge amount of pages is it even possible
[13:53] <mah45> ubuntu do not copy file in /etc/skel/ into home directory ! why ?
[13:54] <randomnoob> blkdg: hda intel idt
[13:54] <juk> raheel: it didn't work did it?
[13:54] <randomnoob> cheap default
[13:54] <raheel> juk nop did try it but just got an error .
[13:54] <raheel> i have tried the following
[13:54] <speedrunnerG55> thankyou
[13:54] <Odaym> disabled it?
[13:55] <Odaym> this is one of the ways to "maintain" your ubuntu as you put it in your question primarily when you first entered, speedrunnerG55
[13:55] <raheel> i have tried but no result!
[13:56] <blkdg> randomnoob, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530600
[13:56] <blkdg> ubottu, nice.
[13:56] <juk> raheel: i see
[13:56] <raheel> have tried changing the Pagelimit option in printers.conf but get an error.
[13:56] <joth> I just tried to upgrade the kernel on Maverick, and now my laptop won't boot up; it says there's a problem with /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 - can anyone help please?
[13:56] <raheel> also tried using the lpadmin command which probably you gave me earlier
[13:57] <speedrunnerG55> also installing updayes?
[13:57] <randomnoob> crap :\
[13:57] <juk> raheel: you said it twice but never mentioned how it looked like
[13:57] <randomnoob> blkdg: thanks
[13:57] <blkdg> randomnoob, looks like there's a workaround involving getting the latest alsa driver
[13:57] <raheel> juk well how the error looked like?
[13:57] <raheel> ok
[13:57] <blkdg> randomnoob, it's about half way down the pafe
[13:58] <blkdg> f/g
[13:58] <juk> raheel: i wouldn't know
[13:58] <raheel> this is the error upon running the command /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p printername -o job-page-limit=1234 and restarting cups Returning IPP client-error-not-possible for Create-Job (ipp://localhost:631/printers/ML-1610) from localhost
[13:58] <Odaym> llutz, you there?
[13:58] <raheel> STRANGE!!!
[13:59] <randomnoob> blkdg: probably wouldn't work, ubuntu comes with an even higher version of alsa and it still doesn't work
[13:59] <juk> raheel: is that error?
[13:59] <LogicallyDashing> What are Super Cow Powers?
[14:00] <juk> !ot | LogicallyDashing
[14:00] <gaurav_help> what is nautilus elemenatry
[14:00] <blkdg> randomnoob, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/568973
[14:00] <Odaym> they are for doing "apt-get moo"
[14:00] <Odaym> LogicallyDashing,
[14:00] <LogicallyDashing> thanks Odaym
[14:00] <Odaym> 1. Type apt-get help. If the egg is present one, there will be a line "This APT has Super Cow Powers."
[14:00] <Odaym> 2. Type apt-get moo and you will see a picture of a cow drawn in ascii and message "have you mooed today?"
[14:00] <raheel> well open office word says "error while printing" and sudo tail -f /var/log/cups/error.log gives that result
[14:00] <LogicallyDashing> ok it worked
[14:00] <LogicallyDashing> that was stupid
[14:00] <Odaym> yep
[14:00] <Odaym> hehe
[14:01] <falconflame> hi guys...
[14:01] <Odaym> i thought it was something very elite too
[14:01] <falconflame> anyone here using backtrack?
[14:01] <blkdg> raheel, sorry to drop in to this late, but have you tried to use localhost 631 (cups)?
[14:01] <elderman> joth, I'm afraid this is unfamiliar territory for me.  I took a look at google results, but the first couple of pages don't suggest anything to me.
[14:02] <oCean> falconflame: this is not the channel for bt support
[14:02] <blkdg> raheel, use a browser and use this address: http://localhost:631/
[14:02] <raheel> i am using cups
[14:02] <raheel> yes i have opened the browser
[14:03] <raheel> now what?
[14:03] <blkdg> raheel, use a browser and use this address: http://localhost:631/
[14:03] <blkdg> that should point you to the cups admin tool
[14:03] <lebear> I'm having a problem that started recently for no apparent reason. Most the time I try to fullscreen a video (in vlc, mplayer, etc) it just closes down. Sometimes it works, but usually not. I'm not having any problems with flash (youtube etc) fullscreens. How do I go about troubleshooting this?
[14:04] <scarface> Hi guys... So why does Ubuntu (10.10) need internet access during the install?
[14:04] <raheel> i am using that address
[14:04] <sacarlson> raheel: I think blkdg: means to use your browser to setup cups with http:/localhost:631
[14:04] <blkdg> lebear, are you using compwiz at the same time?
[14:04] <blkdg> sacarlson, thank you.
[14:04] <raheel> well i think cups is setup i can see my printer in the printers section
[14:05] <raheel> all jobs are logged properly with the page count. what else do i need to setup???
[14:05] <blkdg> please use this URL in your browser localhost:631 raheel
[14:05] <lebear> blkdg, I believe so. I have desktop effects set to normal, that's a comiz thing right?
[14:05] <blkdg> lebear, right.
[14:06] <blkdg> lebear, if there are no effects going on, that ususally cuts down on 'my youtube / my googleearth ' will not work questions.
[14:06] <blkdg> raheel, that url points to the cups server on your box. then config it from there.
[14:07] <Paulo39> hi
[14:07] <dnivra> hello. does every ubuntu machine have the file /etc/lsb-release by default? is it created when ubuntu is installed or does some application need to be installed?
[14:07] <elderman> scarface, I'm surprised it does.  I did a Xubuntu install yesterday without a connection.
[14:07] <lebear> blkdg, yeah. I disabled effects and now fullscreening seem to work perfectly. Thanks! But what might be the issue, it used to work fine even with effects
[14:07] <Odaym> why is there an 'selinux' folder in my filesystem?
[14:07] <Odaym> it's empty, but..why?
[14:07] <juk> !info lsb-release
[14:07] <Paulo39> i want to have a script that starts my apps sequentially. i have this: #/bin/bash
[14:07] <Paulo39> sleep 10 && /usr/bin/python /home/paulecas/Bin/FolderView/FolderViewScreenlet.py && sleep 10 && wakoopa && sleep 10 && /usr/bin/caffeine
[14:07] <yuskhanzab> how to change my account as root account
[14:08] <Odaym> the apt-cache search selinux produces results too, but why is there an empty directory 'selinux' in my filesystem by default?
[14:08] <blkdg> lebear, effects are awsome. youtube and googleearth are awsome. choose one. :)
[14:08] <AbhijiT> hi
[14:08] <juk> !pastebin | Paulo39
[14:08] <Paulo39> the problem is that it doen's go to the 2nd sleep command unless folderview is exited
[14:08] <yuskhanzab> hello anyone!
[14:08] <AbhijiT> which is good video editor we can add titles,credit,transitions, and nice effects? for linux that is
[14:08] <juk> hello everyone!
[14:08] <lebear> blkdg, haha. or I upgrade the computer and get both ;);
[14:08] <scarface> elderman, You can do the install without being connected, but if you ARE connected, it does... stuff.  You can see network activity.  I thought that it might be downloading the latest software updates, but then you still have updates to apply after booting the installed version.
[14:08] <blkdg> lebear, no.
[14:09] <yuskhanzab> anyone: how to change my account as root account
[14:09] <blkdg> lebear, not a hardware issue
[14:09] <marotteo901> hello
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | yuskhanzab
[14:09] <lebear> blkdg, really. thought it was memory related :/
[14:09] <inckie> what is the release cycle of JeOS ?
[14:09] <juk> AbhijiT: transitions?
[14:09] <oCean> yuskhanzab: the root account is locked. Use sudo for administrative privileges
[14:09] <AbhijiT> juk, yes
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !jeos
[14:09] <juk> AbhijiT: what is that
[14:10] <oCean> !sudo > yuskhanzab
[14:10] <Django84> hi!!
[14:10] <dnivra> juk: i do know there is a package like that. is it the package that creates the file?
[14:10] <AbhijiT> juk, have you sed windows movie maker? like when we change from one frame to another frame so we can set an effect 'how' this change should happen
[14:10] <yuskhanzab> i want to copy paste image in my background folder, but i cant
[14:10] <juk> dnivra: lsb-release?
[14:11] <dnivra> juk: yes. does installing lsb-release create the file /etc/lsb-release?
[14:11] <juk> AbhijiT: happly no
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> yuskhanzab:  for a single user. You are proberly better off just having a Background image directgroy in your home dir. Theres no real point in puttung wallpaper in the system dirs
[14:11] <yuskhanzab> see this video, i want to do this on my account.. im the admin
[14:11] <yuskhanzab> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLD-N3BZRtI&feature=related
[14:11] <blkdg> lebear, no i use a little app called dr.java for programming, and it craps out my X if effects are on. go to http://drjava.org/, and on the left, click on COMPIZ
[14:11] <AbhijiT> juk, good! :)
[14:11] <raheel> hasnt anyone setup a print server before???
[14:11] <Django84> I'm looking to buy a wireless router that has the ability to configure when connect to internet (by PPPoE) and when disconnect, automatically.
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> yuskhanzab:  'sudo cp filename.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds/' if you really want to.
[14:11] <sacarlson> Paulo39: I thought that sleep && would just run an application in the background and continue to run the next it the list without stoping
[14:11] <aeon-ltd> !ups | raheel
[14:11] <aeon-ltd> !cups | raheel
[14:12] <raheel> i know but i am now tired of searching and googling and chatting and searching...... please help just let me know that it is not possible so that i can take some rest
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  i have and its rather trivial.. use cups web interface.. set it up to share.. and you proberly want to install samba also.
[14:12] <yuskhanzab> what that comand means?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  i found it trivial the last dozen times ive done it.
[14:12] <Paulo39> sacarlson, it doesn't do that in this case
[14:12] <yuskhanzab> i can copy paste the file in root folder?
[14:12] <Paulo39> i mean, i have that code
[14:12] <raheel> Dr willis REALLY............
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> yuskhanzab:  copys a file to a dir..
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  yes. really.. i share my laser printers and so forth all the tiome on my homne lan with very few issues.
[14:12] <Paulo39> and it just runs the first command after the first sleep
[14:12] <raheel> Dr Willis i hope you understand my problem.
[14:13] <dnivra> juk: why i am asking this question is because i extracted the deb archive lsb-release and it doesn't create the file /etc/lsb-release. so wanted to know if the file does exist by default.
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  so far ice seen you ask 'how to setup a print server'  thats it...
[14:13] <Paulo39> it doens't go for the 2ns sleep unless i exit the folderview app
[14:13] <raheel> Dr Willis i hope you understand my problem. i only need to set the maximum pages per job how to do that
[14:13] <oCean> yuskhanzab: you can use any command requiring root privileges.. use "sudo" !
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  check the cups w3eb interface It proberly has a setting for that.
[14:13] <raheel> i could not find any option in the cups web interface
[14:13] <elderman> scarface, I dunno.  Odd.  Maybe the folks at #ubuntu-installed would know?
[14:14] <sacarlson> Paulo39: I'm not sure it makes any difference but I normaly break scripts into lines,  I wonder if a line is interprited one at a time?
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  check cups.org and the cups docs. Ive never bothered with such a setting. I know theres a lot of 'business' type settings in  there somewhere.
[14:14] <raheel> nope. there i no setting for page limits etc.
[14:14] <juk> dnivra: well it reads that file, so suppose it comes there when you install pack
[14:14] <Paulo39> sacarlson, i'll try to do that
[14:14] <elderman> scarface, *ubuntu-installer
[14:14] <scarface> elderman, Ah, thanks for the tip
[14:14] <dnivra> juk: if you do not have the package installed, could you please check if the file is present?
[14:15] <raheel> yeah i am sure too but i have spend hours searching on cups.org just cannot find something that does the job.
[14:15] <sacarlson> Paulo39: and don't put the && on the lines with sleep in them
[14:15] <oCean> raheel: job-page-limit? http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/spec-ipp.html
[14:15] <elderman> scarface, I dont know if it'll help.  This place is a madhouse.  I'm hanging out on ubuntu-x hoping for a response to a question for a while now.  Crickets.
[14:15] <blkdg> raheel, 1. how did you setup your printer?
[14:16] <blkdg> 2. have you gone to localhost:631 like I've asked you too?
[14:16] <raheel> every buddy is pointing to the same page and that page is not helping
[14:16] <raheel> yes i blkdg i have opened my cups page
[14:16] <Django84> hi! I'm looking to buy a wireless router that has the ability to configure when connect to internet (by PPPoE) and when disconnect, automatically.
[14:17] <CrystalLinux> test
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> quick googling of the cups docs mentions this. (not a page limit but a print job size limit) (i think) -> The MaxRequestSize directive controls the maximum size of print files, IPP requests, and HTML form data in HTTP POST requests.
[14:18] <Secrets1235567> hello
[14:18] <a7i3n>  /eixt
[14:18] <Secrets1235567> guys
[14:18] <dnivra> !test | CrystalLinux
[14:18] <blkdg> lebear, if you've read that page, you can see that there's a small workaround by getting the latest java. did you try that?
[14:18] <Secrets1235567> can someone help
[14:18] <Secrets1235567> me
[14:18] <raheel> yes that is what i have concluded yet. linux does not have  an option to control the max job page limit
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> The PageLimit directive defines the value of the job-page-limit attribute which can be set by the lpadmin -o job-page-limit= command.
[14:18] <dnivra> !someone | Secrets1235567
[14:19] <CrystalLinux> I was just testing that I could talk.
[14:19] <elderman> CrystalLinux, loud and clear.
[14:19] <dnivra> CrystalLinux: and that was to prove you can :D.
[14:19] <oCean> raheel: I remember job-page-limit works fine for me
[14:19] <blkdg> it's not a cb radio CrystalLinux
[14:19] <blkdg> :)
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> The job-page-limit attribute specifies the maximum number of pages that may be printed by a user, including banner files. The default value of 0 specifies that there is no limit
[14:20] <Secrets1235567> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569161/
[14:20] <Secrets1235567> see this
[14:20] <Secrets1235567> perl
[14:20] <oCean> raheel: there's also setting like log_level (not exactly sure) Set it to be more verbose and see what goes wrong
[14:20] <Secrets1235567> and cpan is not working
[14:20] <raheel> does it limit the maximum pages per JOB not per user
[14:21] <Secrets1235567> i need help
[14:21] <blkdg> raheel, http://printing.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/quotas.php
[14:21] <Kranix> I was changing some settings in ATI Catalyst Control Center on my laptop, and my finger slipped while I had my mouse on the contrast slider, dragging it to the far left side and turning off all contrast, now I can't see anything once I reach the login screen...
[14:21] <Secrets1235567> :(
[14:21] <oCean> Secrets1235567: please describe your issue in a single line. Also stop calling for "i need help"
[14:21] <blkdg> raheel, you need to set the QUOTA
[14:21] <Secrets1235567> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569161/
[14:21] <Django84> hi guys i need some help, i'm looking for a router that has the option to configure the time to connect to internet and time to disconnect...
[14:21] <Secrets1235567> read this
[14:21] <Secrets1235567> im trying to say
[14:21] <raheel> oCean i dont thing it limits that i think that we can only set quota for a time period not per job
[14:21] <Secrets1235567> i installed a perl packeage
[14:22] <dnivra> !ask | Secrets1235567
[14:22] <raheel> we cannot set the max pages limit for any job.
[14:22] <blkdg> does this perl package limit the ammount of characters that you can tyoe into your irc client?
[14:22] <oCean> !enter > Secrets1235567
[14:22] <oCean> raheel: job-page-limit works for me
[14:22] <raheel> so if a user send a file with 1000 pages it will get printed. that is what i want to stop
[14:22] <juk> raheel: just limit the paper, i cant limit jobs
[14:22] <budwaa> I want to create a user on my system just for an ssh tunnel to a wiki
[14:22] <juk> if*
[14:22] <joth> I just tried to upgrade the kernel on Maverick, and now my laptop won't boot up; it says there's a problem with /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 - can anyone help please?
[14:22] <budwaa> whats the best way to setup this user
[14:22] <BuMpIc> a
[14:23] <Secrets1235567> im saying cpan won't work
[14:23] <BuMpIc> if i installed an install.sh in terminal  how i can run it?
[14:23] <Secrets1235567> either it has the same errors
[14:23] <blkdg> raheel, http://printing.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/quotas.php
[14:23] <Secrets1235567> type
[14:23] <kamalthepirate> anybody know y windows 7 is getting slow.. it was all okay till 2 days before... and now it takes a lot of time to run any orogram.. even to open my computer
[14:23] <Secrets1235567> sh install.sh
[14:23] <raheel> oCean does it do what i am saying. i.e limiting the maximum printing  per job
[14:23] <Secrets1235567> okay
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  You set the job-page-limit attribute, seems to be a per-printer setting
[14:23] <dnivra> !ot | kamalthepirate
[14:23] <raheel> blkdg let me try your link too
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> raheel:  i just cant seem to fiture out a way to set it from teh cups web interface. :()
[14:24] <raheel> yes Dr willis that is a printer setting it affects the whole printer. you are right
[14:24] <dnivra> !windows | kamalthepirate
[14:24] <BuMpIc> but if i type sh install.sh than  it  want to install it again:O
[14:24] <blkdg> raheel, like i said before, this is a CUPS QUOTA issue.
[14:24] <dnivra> BuMpIc: you ran install.sh already. am i correct? what did you install?
[14:24] <raheel> yes but we can set it using the lpadmin command or sudo nano /etc/cups/printers.conf and change that value
[14:24] <kamalthepirate> i m sorry and thanks for the info...
[14:25] <dnivra> kamalthepirate: np. next time do read the topic.
[14:25] <Secrets1235567> Does anyone know how to fix the problem
[14:25] <Django84> The idea would be set up that 9 to 12.30 and from 16 to 20 connected, and outside these times disconnected.
[14:25] <dnivra> !patience | Secrets1235567
[14:25] <BuMpIc> dnivra,  I downloaded an opensource program and i installed it with sh install.sh.And i want to run it
[14:26] <dnivra> BuMpIc: um the name of the program is?
[14:26] <dnivra> BuMpIc: maybe if you type the name of the program, it'd work. just a thought ...
[14:26] <Secrets1235567> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569168/
[14:26] <Secrets1235567> here look at this
[14:26] <BuMpIc> dnivra,  i can try it
[14:26] <oCean> Secrets1235567: please stop
[14:26] <Secrets1235567> can you see the problem :(
[14:27] <BuMpIc> dnivra, no it dont works
[14:27] <dnivra> Secrets1235567: personally i feel most people here would have "/ignore"d you: mentally or physically.
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Secrets1235567:  at least summarize the problem. I havent seen you actually state a problem.
[14:27] <dnivra> BuMpIc: what is the name of the app you installed? maybe there is some readme on how to run it?
[14:27] <blkdg> raheel, here's someone working with a quota issue like you have http://www.edugeek.net/forums/nix/3991-pykota-cups-based-printer-quota-costing-system.html
[14:28] <blkdg> raheel, or try http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/accounting.html
[14:28] <BuMpIc> dnivra, blaster v3.1 and there was only a how to use it
[14:28] <blkdg> raheel, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545747
[14:28] <dnivra> BuMpIc: try typing in blaster and see if it works.
[14:28] <blkdg> dude read those links.
[14:29] <elderman> BuMpIc, have you tried navigating to the folder in the terminal and entering: './programname'?
[14:29] <fpsdf> Hi! Could anyone help me on making a USB installer on a Mac OS for use in a PC?
[14:29] <BuMpIc> elderman, no i haven't :O
[14:29] <dnivra> elderman: if he's ran install.sh, it's like it's in present folder or in $PATH right?
[14:30] <BuMpIc> dnivra,  typing blaster didn't work
[14:30] <blkdg> open a term BuMpIc , type locate blaster
[14:30] <elderman> dnivra, could be
[14:31] <blkdg> you might have to run updatedb first. be patient, then try locate blaster
[14:31] <BuMpIc> omg there is only soundblaster :D
[14:32] <blkdg> BuMpIc, did this source have a INSTALL.txt file? just curious ...
[14:32] <milamber> !usb | fpsdf not currently possible
[14:32] <blkdg> hello, i am using ubuntu 10.4. 32 bit, and it is completely patched.  It has a SIS integrated video card.  I have turned the screen saver off. When I Suspend the machine, the monitor turns Off.  How can I get it to function after the Suspend ends?
[14:32] <BuMpIc> blkdg, yes and there was only this: Execute the file install.sh      -----> ./install.sh
[14:32] <BuMpIc> and then choose the language
[14:32] <BuMpIc> make clean -------> Delete binary, some misc file and the manual files
[14:32] <raheel> blkg thanks i am checking it right now
[14:33] <raheel> blkdg will let you kknow
[14:33] <blkdg> weird, usually there's an os licence, and a few readme's
[14:33] <billmania> Anyone able to transfer photos from a Samsung SCH-U640 digital camera to an ubuntu 10.10 notebook?
[14:33] <blkdg> no. billmania does it have a card in it?
[14:34] <billmania> blkdg: An SD memory card?
[14:34] <blkdg> billmania, if it does, mount the card like a drive on your laptopm then cut and paste
[14:34] <SarahPengi> Is anybody free to answer a question i might have?
[14:34] <blkdg> billmania, yep
[14:34] <billmania> Yes, but my computer doesn't have an SD card reader.
[14:34] <blkdg> SarahPengi, don't ask to ask
[14:34] <billmania> blkdg: The camera has a USB interface.
[14:34] <AbhijiT> SarahPengi, ask
[14:35] <SarahPengi> Ive just started using ubuntu, and im trying to get the drivers installed but im getting this error
[14:35] <SarahPengi> systemerror: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[14:35] <blkdg> billmania, cool. does ubuntu see the device mounted when you plug it in?
[14:35] <Secrets1235567> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME :(
[14:35] <Secrets1235567> i stated my problem
[14:35] <oCean> !etiquette > Secrets1235567
[14:35] <Secrets1235567> i installed a package
[14:35] <billmania> blkdg: No. That's the problem. ubuntu doesn't automatically mount the file system from the Samsung.
[14:35] <Secrets1235567> that made those errors up
[14:36] <mkanyicy> !enter | SecretAgent
[14:36] <mkanyicy> !enter | Secrets1235567
[14:36] <billmania> blkdg: I see lots of entries in /var/log/messages and it seems to be trying to mount it as /dev/sdb1, but it just keeps looping.
[14:36] <Secrets1235567> i mean made them start happening i don't know which  one it was
[14:36] <mkanyicy> SecretAgent, sorry
[14:36] <BuMpIc> and if i want to install with ./configure a program?
[14:36] <blkdg> billmania, i discovered that a $12 dollar 64 in 1 card reader from tigerdirect is way faster than trying to move the mountain.
[14:37] <mkanyicy> Secrets1235567, what is your problem, again?
[14:37] <blkdg> :)
[14:37] <SarahPengi> Its been kinda ?? as to why i cant get the drivers to install, i used the system -- admin----> additional drivers thing
[14:37] <Poss_> just letting you guys know, I think I've solved the root problem of all these problems i've been having all day
[14:37] <billmania> blkdg: Yeah, that may be what we have to do.
[14:37] <blkdg> billmania, it's way faster
[14:37] <Zyxzezix> Can anyone tell me why wingpanel isn't showing my systray icons, like dropbox, skype, etc?
[14:38] <blkdg> billmania, plus, read this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/363329
[14:38] <aeon-ltd> Zyxzezix: does it support them?
[14:38] <xangua> Zyxzezix: wingpanel uses only indicators
[14:38] <blkdg> billmania, looks like it's an access issue
[14:38] <elfranne> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and changed my ip config to static but i can t restart the network by doing service network restart , i got : network: unrecognized service
[14:38] <Zyxzezix> xangua, I've seen screenshots of wingpanel users, though, and they had dropbox icons
[14:38] <billmania> blkdg: Yup, that's my problem.
[14:39] <xangua> Zyxzezix: night builds of dropbox uses indicators
[14:39] <SarahPengi> i hope im not making some sort of newbie mistake in this, hitting the brick wall was a bit of shock heh
[14:39] <gartral|cr48> elfranne: did you try a normal reboot?
[14:40] <andrea_> hey people, i've got a problem
[14:40] <mkanyicy> elfranne, try 'networking' not 'network'
[14:40] <mkanyicy> !ask | andrea_
[14:40] <elderman> SarahPengi, I'm looking it up
[14:40] <blkdg> billmania, get a cardreader. get a super cheep 64 in 1 one like http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5254915&CatId=942
[14:40] <elderman> SarahPengi, just searching Google
[14:40] <blkdg> billmania, thats in CDN though.
[14:40] <SarahPengi> thanks alot elderman
[14:40] <andrea_> i have a samsung x420 with ubuntu 10.10 and i can't adjuste the screen brightness
[14:40] <billmania> blkdg: Looking now.
[14:41] <andrea_> any suggest?
[14:41] <elfranne> when typing networking i got : restart unknown instance
[14:41] <elderman> SarahPengi, could you post all the details again in a private message
[14:41] <SarahPengi> Sure!
[14:41] <blkdg> andrea_, is that a laptop? is there a Fn / Function key?
[14:42] <mkanyicy> elfranne, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop' followed by a 'start'
[14:42] <andrea_> blkdg: yes, it's a laptop, but Fn key simply doesn't work
[14:42] <blkdg> are you running from the battery, or from the wall when you try the Fn key?
[14:42] <blkdg> have you altered the powersaver settings?
[14:43] <andrea_> doesn't work both on battery nor on AC
[14:43] <blkdg> andrea_, my acer only ever gets to 80 brightness when it's on the battery, when i plug into the wall, i can get to super bright 100%
[14:43] <blkdg> ah
[14:44] <blkdg> andrea_, have you adjusted the power saver settings?
[14:44] <billmania> blkdg: Off to TigerDirect Chicago. Thanks.
[14:44] <andrea_> on battery the screen light  is too low, on AC is ok
[14:44] <blkdg> billmania, call first dude
[14:44] <andrea_> but can't adjuste it
[14:45] <blkdg> andrea_, " my acer only ever gets to 80 brightness when it's on the battery, when i plug into the wall, i can get to super bright 100%
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[14:45] <winged_warrior> hello
[14:45] <andrea_> ok
[14:46] <blkdg> andrea_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1370135
[14:46] <andrea_> blkdg: thanks, take a look
[14:47] <andrea_> no, already done just 5 minutse ago
[14:47] <blkdg> huh?
[14:47] <andrea_> doesn't work
[14:47] <blkdg> oh
[14:47] <blkdg> tried the kernel patch?
[14:48] <blkdg> and there exists a patch in Kernel 2.6.33: Greg Kroah-Hartman created a module that implements this functionality (if you want to have a look at it, get 2.6.33-rc3 sources and look in drivers/staging/samsung-laptop),
[14:48] <andrea_> probably yes
[14:48] <blkdg> pardon?
[14:48] <jo-erlend> can someone _please_ help me partition my disk so that the first partition starts at sector 64? I've spent more than twenty hours trying to install Ubuntu without success.
[14:48] <andrea_> i've done something around it, but i don't exactly what i've done :)
[14:48] <blkdg> which kernel are you using andrea_
[14:49] <andrea_> uh
[14:49] <andrea_> don't know :S
[14:49] <Seth> is this is a good place to ask about ubuntu on a mac mini?
[14:49] <blkdg> andrea_, uname -v
[14:49] <andrea_> blkdg: how can I know?
[14:49] <andrea_> ok
[14:50] <andrea_> blkdg: #45~ppa1~loms~maverick-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 27 16:40:56 UTC 2011
[14:50] <blkdg> my bad
[14:51] <andrea_> lol :)
[14:51] <blkdg> uname -r
[14:51] <blkdg> sorry bout that
[14:51] <andrea_> don't worry :)
[14:51] <andrea_> 2.6.35-25-generic-pae
[14:51] <Seth> anyone have ubuntu on a mac mini 4,1? I have it installed and it is unusably slow even on the command line
[14:51] <andrea_> it seems updated, isn't it?
[14:51] <Odaym> didn't you look in System > Power management, andrea_ ?
[14:52] <blkdg> yep. did you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1370135
[14:53] <blkdg> Odaym, I asked him several times about that, no response
[14:53] <Odaym> let's ask again
[14:53] <andrea_> already read it
[14:53] <Odaym> andrea_, you can go to System > Preferences > Power Management
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> Seth:  you may want to check the forums. thers proberly some mac-mini threads/faq/wiki pages
[14:53] <mycosys>  Nvidia wouldnt happen to have introduced persistant overclocking in their linux drivers would they, or a method to overclock via cli?
[14:54] <Odaym> and there you can set the defaults for when you are plugged in/out
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> mycosys:  i think theres some tools to do it. but ive never bothered.
[14:55] <andrea_> Odaym: no, just tried out, no changes on screen brightness
[14:55] <masai47> I just installed edubuntu and while I could connect to the internet in a live environment from a USB within the new install I can not, the nm-applet is not showing up, and I am not really sure what is wrong.
[14:55] <andrea_> neither on power management
[14:56] <Seth> Dr_Willis: i didnt find anything, but i will check again..
[14:56] <Odaym> the very fact that your screen brightness changes (regardless of when and where), means that this is functional
[14:56] <kyle___> So, Thunderbird never stays is date desc order... Any idea's ?
[14:56] <Odaym> so careful when setting options in Power Management, some options cancel each other out
[14:57] <ruffy> hi can any1 help establish share between my vista and my newly installed xubuntu 10.10
[14:57] <andrea_> Odaym: ok
[14:57] <andrea_> so?
[14:57] <kamalmv> ruffy:using samba
[14:57] <Odaym> are you on battery power now?
[14:57] <andrea_> on AC right now
[14:57] <ruffy> dl samba?
[14:57] <ruffy> okay thanks kamaLmv
[14:57] <Odaym> it dims too much when on Battery? this is your problem?
[14:58] <andrea_> yes, it's a part of the problem
[14:58] <andrea_> and I can't adjuste it, 2nd problem
[14:58] <Odaym> then go to System > Preferences > Power Management again, and uncheck "Reduce backlight brightness" and "Dim display when idle"
[14:58] <ruffy> is samba an application that will get me to talk to windows?
[14:58] <Odaym> see if that changes anything
[14:58] <andrea_> let me see
[14:59] <Odaym> then press on Make Default and supply a password
[14:59] <kv102t> So, Thunderbird never stays is date desc order... Any idea's ?
[14:59] <andrea_> ok
[14:59] <SarahPengi> elderman, Thank you very much, everything works now
[14:59] <andrea_> done
[14:59] <Odaym> now unplug
[14:59] <Odaym> and see
[14:59] <Odaym> does it dim down like before?
[15:00] <andrea_> no, but there's another thing
[15:00] <MaverickMC> hi guys
[15:00] <Odaym> that's one, then
[15:00] <Odaym> what is the other?
[15:00] <MaverickMC> can someone please help me?
[15:00] <Odaym> cannot adjust it when you want?
[15:00] <kamalmv> ruffy : u can connect linux and windows systems together using samba
[15:00] <Odaym> !ask | MaverickMC
[15:00] <induz> why one of my program kdenlive is not appearing on aplication--sound/video
[15:00] <induz> I can see a folder named Kdenlive though
[15:01] <andrea_> when i turn on pc plugged to AC, and then i unplug, brightness remain the same
[15:01] <ruffy> awesome, thnks kamalmv
[15:01] <induz> how can i re-install it
[15:01] <mpsystem> estou com um problema no firefox ele não abre pagina nenhuma só  mostra ERROR!
[15:01] <MaverickMC> i need help getting my version of ubuntu 10.10 to use a low latency kernel.
[15:01] <biglio23> join #backtrack-linux
[15:01] <psycho_oreos> !es| mpsystem
[15:01] <Odaym> this is what you wanted, andrea_, isn't it? to keep the brightness from dimming too much when you are on Battery power
[15:01] <andrea_> but when i turn on pc directly from battery, brightness remains low, even pluggin pc on AC
[15:01] <kamalmv> ruffy:wlcm
[15:01] <xangua> psycho_oreos: portuguese, not spanish ;)
[15:02] <jyfl987> a Question:  i have  compiled a WM by myself, but after i add a wm.desktop to the  /usr/share/xsessions/  and login again, still cant found the wm item which i have added, so what'wrong with it ?
[15:02] <andrea_> Odaym: yes, and could change it on my will
[15:02] <andrea_> just let me reboot it unplugged
[15:02] <andrea_> and see if it worked
[15:02] <MaverickMC> hey, :) can you guys help me get my Kernel set for Low Latency?
[15:02] <andrea_> ok?
[15:02] <Odaym> look at your F1,F2,etc.. keys on the top, andrea_ , do you see one with the display icon on it?
[15:02] <psycho_oreos> xangua, oh well give mpsystem the right link then :)
[15:02] <Oer> MaverickMC, you want a low latency kernel, like RT-kernel in ubuntu-studio ?  = realtime
[15:02] <Odaym> F7 or F8, andrea_
[15:03] <andrea_> yes, F4
[15:03] <Odaym> and F5?
[15:03] <Odaym> up and down?
[15:03] <MaverickMC> i guess so
[15:03] <andrea_> i think it's suspension button
[15:03] <MaverickMC> i am using ubuntu 10.10 X86 32 bit
[15:03] <Odaym> no, it should be the icon of a small sun
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> jyfl987:  im not sure thats the proper place. Look for the 'gnome.desktop' file. also. You may need to restart the GDM service. if that is the right place.
[15:03] <andrea_> there's a sun half black, half white
[15:03] <andrea_> yep
[15:03] <Odaym> full one
[15:03] <Odaym> with an up arrow and a down arrow
[15:03] <Odaym> next to one another
[15:04] <andrea_> no, those are on arrows up and down
[15:04] <_chun> Say I have two computers both running ssh-server on a local network -- when I ssh into the network using its external ip address, which of those computers am I going to be connecting to?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> jyfl987:  that does seem to be the right place now. :) used to be differnt.
[15:04] <jyfl987> Dr_Willis: i have restart it, its in lucid, and i found if i edit an exists .desktop files, the  changed value will show at login
[15:04] <andrea_> and don't work with Fn :(
[15:04] <Odaym> does pressing the Fn key along ..
[15:04] <Odaym> oh
[15:04] <MaverickMC> why am i still waiting?
[15:04] <Odaym> then you need to identify that specific function of your keyboard, andrea_
[15:04] <Odaym> Fn sometimes doesn't work by default
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> jyfl987:  check ownership and permissions. I normally just copy gnome.destkop and edit it.
[15:05] <andrea_> nononono, let me explain
[15:05] <Odaym> MaverickMC, i don't think this is a restaurant where you can order something on demand
[15:05] <Odaym> just be patient
[15:05] <jyfl987> Dr_Willis: i am also copy an exists .desktop file  and then changed the filename  and the value
[15:05] <MaverickMC> ok
[15:05] <andrea_> when pressing Fn and arrows, appears the screen icon of brightness adjustment, but nothing else happens
[15:05] <andrea_> got it?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> MaverickMC:  i think someone suggested theres a rt kernel in the repos. I belive ubuntustudio uses it by default.
[15:05] <Hierro59> what is the irc channel in Spanish
[15:05] <jyfl987> Dr_Willis: so is there any script like update-initramfs to make the change to be accept?
[15:06] <gartral|cr48> I have my laptop configured too blank screen when I close the lid, but I notice 2 problems. 1 the backlight stays on, and two, the screen doesn't lock... how can i fix this?
[15:06] <Code_Bleu> anyone know how i can get the current weather form the terminal?
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> jyfl987:  any time ive ever edited those files. I just copy gnome.desktop, edit it.. restart gdm.. it works.
[15:06] <Odaym> so you can see that the brightness bar is rising and falling, andrea_, but not affecting the actual brightness of the screen?
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> The program 'weather' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[15:06] <andrea_> exactly
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install weather-util
[15:06] <Hierro59> please, what is the irc channel in Spanish
[15:06] <MaverickMC> i don't want the F#$%ing Rt Kernel
[15:06] <Odaym> this beats me
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> Code_Bleu:  try the weather command? :)
[15:06] <Odaym> never seen something like that
[15:06] <jyfl987> Dr_Willis: i will try again now, wait me a minutes
[15:06] <sinisterstuf> Code_Bleu, emacs would
[15:06] <MaverickMC> unless it is faster
[15:07] <andrea_> Hierro59: #ubuntu-es
[15:07] <gartral|cr48> !realtime | MaverickMC
[15:07] <Hierro59> joing #ubuntu-es
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> MaverickMC:  i thought they were the same thing.. but i dont use either.
[15:07] <Odaym> andrea_, try to google for "<your keyboard brand> problem with brightness keys"
[15:07] <Hierro59> join #ubuntu-es
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> 'faster' is relative :) to your benchmarks I guess.
[15:07] <Odaym> Hierro59, say "/join #ubuntu-es"
[15:07] <andrea_> already done, no solutions found :(
[15:07] <erUSUL> Hierro59: /join #ubuntu-es
[15:08] <gartral|cr48> I have my laptop configured too blank screen when I close the lid, but I notice 2 problems. 1 the backlight stays on, and two, the screen doesn't lock... how can i fix this?
[15:08] <MaverickMC> afaik Low Latency Kernel and system is for older pcs
[15:08] <Odaym> it's very strange andrea_
[15:08] <Code_Bleu> Dr_Willis: I dont have a weather command, and apt-get install weather doesnt work either
[15:08] <Odaym> what about the volume, andrea_ ?
[15:08] <Odaym> works?
[15:08] <andrea_> i know
[15:08] <andrea_> volume works properly
[15:08] <andrea_> no problem
[15:08] <Hierro59> tanks
[15:08] <gartral|cr48> MaverickMC: that's a bad assumption, I can think of 3 tasks where I would want an RTK on a supercompter.
[15:08] <andrea_> with Fn and left-right arrows
[15:08] <gartral|cr48> computer
[15:08] <induz> hello why i am getting thie error now
[15:08] <induz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569193/
[15:08] <shaneo> Ubuntu 10.10 and XBMC volume issues can someone help me out
[15:09] <andrea_> Hierro59: de nada
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Code_Bleu:  the package to install eas not called 'weather' it sayd what to install...
[15:09] <MaverickMC> i don't own a damn supercomputer
[15:09] <mpsystem> Tengo un problema en Firefox no se abre ninguna página sólo muestra ERROR!
[15:09] <induz> how to correct those error
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install weather-util
[15:09] <elderman> gartral|cr48,  I don't know, but it sounds like a hibernate/suspend problem
[15:09] <MaverickMC> i have an old celeron 2.20GHz with 1gb of pc2700 ram
[15:09] <gartral|cr48> MaverickMC: why don't you calm down a little? and have some patience, I was making the point that an RT kernel is used on all configurations.
[15:09] <MaverickMC> and onboard intel i865g
[15:10] <andrea_> Odaym: any other idea?
[15:10] <shaneo> i habe to manually set the volume in the sound prefrences of unbuntu everytime i start or change songs
[15:10] <Code_Bleu> Dr_Willis: it did not say what to install for me: http://pastebin.com/gQJDrD8D
[15:10] <MaverickMC> my motherboard is an ASrock P4i65G
[15:10] <kamalmv> -chun: its all about routing
[15:10] <gartral|cr48> elderman: no, I don't want my system too fall into hibernate/sleep/off I just want to close the lid, blank and lock the screen, and shut off the backlight..
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> Code_Bleu:  thats weird.. ubuntu has had that feature ion the command line for the last few releases.
[15:10] <induz> another error http://paste.ubuntu.com/569195/
[15:11] <Odaym> andrea_, see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/220407
[15:11] <induz> why I am getting those error
[15:11] <compdoc> low latency isnt for performance
[15:11] <induz> can not I update the software sources
[15:11] <MaverickMC> then what is?!?!
[15:11] <andrea_> let me see
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Code_Bleu:  its 'weather-util' and the  command can be used like --> $ weather -i KOKK
[15:11] <gartral|cr48> compdoc: no, it's for high availability.
[15:11] <elderman> gartral|cr48, how did you configure it to blank the screen?
[15:12] <compdoc> not even for that, really
[15:12] <jyfl987> Dr_Willis: ok its my fault, i type the wrong extra file name
[15:12] <xangua> induz: do not add software sources from other distros
[15:12] <kamalmv> how to boot a computer from another in LAN
[15:12] <induz> what should i do now/
[15:13] <induz> xangua, what should i do to correct it
[15:13] <xangua> induz: delete those debian software sources
[15:13] <gartral|cr48> compdoc: if i'm doing particle simulation for a water/fluid management, and i want to say it's accurate, then i want a real time kernel... so yea, it kinda is.
[15:13] <xangua> induz: and any other that is not ubuntu's
[15:13] <juk> andrea_: did you know brightness applet on gnome-panel?
[15:13] <induz> xangua, which one
[15:13] <xangua> ...
[15:13] <Odaym> ah, juk is right, andrea_, try that
[15:14] <gartral|cr48> elderman: power managment> when laptop lid is closed, blank screen.
[15:14] <Boosh> anyone have a good guide to setting fqdn?
[15:14] <induz> xangua, how can i delet those sources
[15:14] <elderman> gartral|cr48, yeah, I see it
[15:14] <Boosh> hostname -f and hostname both return the right info, but domainname returns (none)
[15:14] <andrea_> Odaym, juk no, don't know it
[15:15] <andrea_> an you explain please?
[15:15] <andrea_> can
[15:15] <xangua> induz: the same way you added them or just go to software centre>edit> sources
[15:15] <gartral|cr48> elderman:  well it does indeed blank the screen, I really want it too lock the screen, and shut off the backlight too
[15:15] <Odaym> andrea_, put the mouse on the top panel > right click > Add to Panel > choose Brightness Applet
[15:15] <beachbum_Bob> hi
[15:15] <sacarlson> kamalmv: do you want to install from lan boot (pxeboot) or persistant boot to keep changes on next boot?  heres one of them https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[15:16] <elderman> gartral|cr48, I'm interested because I have problems with this too
[15:16] <sparky44> when i click on my other windows "bottom right of screen" it no longer switches over how do i fiv this
[15:16] <raheel> Alright i have checked the official site of cups and finally found out that cups does not support quotas specific for jobs
[15:16] <juk> andrea_: right click gnome-panel, add type brightness applet
[15:16] <MaverickMC> can someone PM me?
[15:16] <Odaym> andrea_, now put the mouse over the Sun and use mouse wheel to reduce and increase
[15:16] <rootlinuxusr> i dont know, can we?
[15:16] <raheel> quotas can be specified only for a printer in general or a single user ans that too based on time like daily weekly etc.
[15:16] <gartral|cr48> elderman: ok lets build a hwdb what kind of machine do you have?
[15:16] <andrea_> lol, when i click on the bar  of the applet, it simply disappears :S
[15:16] <elderman> I'm a Dell e6400
[15:17] <juk> !pm | MaverickMC
[15:17] <andrea_> so, it doesn't work
[15:17] <Odaym> nevermind that, andrea_ , i just tried it and that also happened
[15:17] <beachbum_Bob> i have audio problems on a Toshiba laptop/Ubuntu 10.10
[15:17] <Odaym> use the mouse wheel over it, andrea_
[15:17] <raheel> we cannot set quota for a printer to limit the maximum number of pages per JOB. what a bummer.
[15:17] <Odaym> dont click it
[15:17] <induz> xangua, i go to system--admin--software source...other software...but I dont know which one to edit or remove from there
[15:17] <elderman> gartral|cr48, sorry that was to you: Dell e6400
[15:17] <andrea_> ok, the bar goes up and down
[15:17] <Code_Bleu> Dr_Willis: i got weather working, but its only showing the forecast.  I want the current temp.  Do you know how to get that?  Ive read the man page and cant figure it out
[15:17] <MaverickMC> Anyone that feels that they can help me can feel free to PM me.
[15:17] <Odaym> and the actual brightness?
[15:17] <andrea_> but no changes on the brightness
[15:17] <Odaym> still unaffected?
[15:17] <xangua> induz: remove the DEBIAN stuff you added
[15:17] <andrea_> :(
[15:17] <Odaym> hot damn!
[15:17] <andrea_> yes
[15:17] <Odaym> this is magic right here
[15:17] <Odaym> haha
[15:17] <FloodBot2> Odaym: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <raheel> a simple windows application paper cut does it like a breeze and in ubuntu we dont have this basic option!  !$%@&!%@!*(@^%
[15:17] <andrea_> hot LOL XD
[15:18] <blkdg> raheel, why not set the QUOTA for the user per day?
[15:18] <kamalmv> sacarlson;i hav heard about wake on lan ..will it work
[15:18] <Odaym> i have NO idea
[15:18] <Odaym> but i tried
[15:18] <sparky44> codeblue what are you using for your wather and such
[15:18] <andrea_> neither me
[15:18] <andrea_> Odaym: but many thanks anyway :) :)
[15:18] <MaverickMC> does anyone know what kernel would best for my system?
[15:18] <gartral|cr48> elderman: huh, that's completly different hardware than what i have..
[15:18] <sparky44> i use weatherbug works good
[15:18] <sacarlson> kamalmv: wake on lan?  no that has nothing to do with boot off lan unless I misunderstand what you want.
[15:18] <Code_Bleu> sparky44: apt-get install weather-utill...then run weather <options>
[15:18] <elderman> gartral|cr48, yeah, I think these are really common problems
[15:18] <blkdg> raheel, if it was a basic option it would be included with the DRIVER for your printer.
[15:18] <juk> !best | MaverickMC:
[15:18] <andrea_> just let me reboot pc and see if brightness changes when turn it on on battery
[15:19] <Odaym> ok
[15:19] <raheel> blkdg actually the reason behind it is to limit accidental printing of huge documents
[15:19] <elderman> gartral|cr48, in my experience
[15:19] <andrea_> later!
[15:19] <Code_Bleu> sparky44: i want from the terminal
[15:19] <sparky44> codeblue thanks
[15:19] <blkdg> train the humans raheel
[15:19] <elderman> gartral|cr48, I'm looking for launchpad bugs
[15:19] <blkdg> ;)
[15:19] <MaverickMC> i mostly use this computer for internet browsing and facebook games
[15:19] <induz> xangua, if i upgrade to 10.10, will the error go away??
[15:19] <elderman> gartral|cr48, but does your screen ever lock?
[15:19] <raheel> LOL yeah. we need to train the humans now...LOL
[15:20] <compdoc> MaverickMC, its best to start with the newest and work backwards if you have issues. 10.10 or 10.04 at least. The older they are, the more vulnerable they are, and the worse they run on newer hardware
[15:20] <kamalmv> sacarlson: i meant to power on a pv from another in an existing LAN
[15:20] <kamalmv> sacarlcon' power on a pc
[15:20] <induz> I used to have a programs called; kdenlive working on this system but somehow its gone, i can not see it
[15:20] <blkdg> MaverickMC, like compdoc said, start with the one on the cd / dvd
[15:20] <MaverickMC> did any of you catch what i said about my motherboard specs?
[15:20] <blkdg> induz, can you launch it from a term?
[15:20] <raheel> i came close to an option of MaxCopies but that turned out to limit the copies of an existing document
[15:21] <Guest63854> can someone let me know if I will suffer significantly worse performance on a notebook if I install the full ubuntu edition on it rather than the netbook version ?
[15:21] <sacarlson> kamalmv: ok well if you want wake on lan then you might look at this then http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588
[15:22] <adub_> i want to remove pulse audio completely how do i do this??????
[15:22] <induz> blkdg, how can i launch from terminal??
[15:22] <MaverickMC> i don't know about you guys, but i'm gonna go now.
[15:22] <sparky44> i am un able to go to another window how do i fix this
[15:22] <balachmar> How can I install a 32bit version of the following library: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so on the forums getlibs is mentioned. However, that website is unavailable.
[15:22] <juk> Guest63854: no, you shouldn't be suffering
[15:23] <Guest63854> juk: I am suffering at the moment with very odd redraw issues with the netbook version, so was thinking of junking it and going to std build
[15:23] <kamalmv> thanks a lot sacarlson
[15:23] <juk> Guest63854: yeah it might be kinda green yet, go for normal desktop
[15:23] <Guest63854> cool, later
[15:24] <yuran> how to add new language to lubuntu keyboard applet?
[15:24] <andrea_> here i am
[15:24] <alaing> hi trying to install my graphice card which is a Sapphire HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 HDMI DVI VGA PCI-E Graphics Card so I can see how ubuntu 10.04 on my usb drive will work
[15:25] <abhinav_singh> hey i have upgraded to 10.10 ikonia_ ..thank you very much for your help :)
[15:25] <andrea_> Odaym: it didn't work :(
[15:25] <andrea_> when i turn on pc without AC, brightness still low
[15:25] <andrea_> very low
[15:25] <blkdg> MaverickMC http://hardware4linux.info/system/258/
[15:26] <raheel> i think i will limit the users to a daily quota or try to install papercut using virtual box
[15:26] <blkdg> induz, open a term and type kden then hit TAB, see what you get
[15:26] <trae> Anyone know of a Fraps equiv for Linux?   I'd like to create videos of gaming in Linux and post on YouTube (with audio commentary).
[15:27] <Odaym> i really have no idea anymore, andrea_ , but you can wait here some more and ask again..or..the forums
[15:27] <induz> blkdg, I get this;kden: command not found
[15:28] <andrea_> yes, i think it's the only way
[15:28] <blkdg> trae, RecordMyDesktop (KDE)
[15:28] <blkdg> induz, try locate kdenlive
[15:28] <induz> blkdg, Also when i hit Alt--F2 I can not run kdenlive
[15:28] <trae> blkdg: I read where it didn't work well with games, perhaps that's changed.
[15:28] <induz> blkdg, i can see kdenlive folder/directory though
[15:28] <SaYMoN80> Ciao
[15:28] <blkdg> induz, open a term and try locate kdenlive
[15:29] <SaYMoN80> hello
[15:29] <SaYMoN80> !keep porv
[15:29] <sacarlson> balachmar: did you try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ?
[15:29] <andrea_> tank you :)
[15:29] <blkdg> trae i've not used it for games. but it works very well.
[15:29] <induz> blkdg, I get a long list
[15:29] <balachmar> @sacarlson yes, that is already installed
[15:30] <blkdg> induz, can you copy and paste the list at pastebin.com ?
[15:30] <blkdg> then let us know the url that pastebin.com gives you
[15:30] <andrea_> i've got another big problem :(
[15:31] <juk> andrea_: can see anything for: lshal | grep display ?
[15:31] <induz> blkdg, here :http://paste.ubuntu.com/569203/
[15:31] <andrea_> juk: not installed
[15:31] <juk> andrea_: ah
[15:32] <andrea_> going for it
[15:32] <blkdg> induz, i don't see kdenlive. did you remove it?
[15:33] <trae> blkdg: kk...   how does one ascertain a windows   windowid?
[15:33] <andrea_> juk: sudo apt-get install hal doesn't output nothing
[15:33] <blkdg> how did you install it induz ?
[15:33] <andrea_> juk: no sorry
[15:33] <andrea_> andrea@ubuntu:~$ lshal | grep display this command
[15:33] <trae> xwininfo
[15:33] <trae> lol
[15:34] <juk> andrea_: *doesn't* *nothing* so it does something
[15:34] <speed_> im having a problem playing gl-117
[15:34] <induz> blkdg, I installed after reading thier website and i was working on kdenlive 0.7 till yesterday
[15:34] <juk> andrea_: is it mind game?
[15:34] <induz> blkdg, my video edit is still in a folder
[15:34] <mah454> dsada
[15:35] <brontoeee> induz, "how?"
[15:35] <induz> blkdg, then i donwloaded cineralla and i dont see kdenlive
[15:35] <blkdg> cineralla will not have affected kdenlive
[15:36] <induz> brontoeee, I dont remeber exactly, but from here:http://kdenlive.org/user-manual/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive/pre-compiled-packages/ubuntu-packages
[15:36] <induz> cineralla is still there but i dont like it
[15:37] <induz> blkdg, my edit line is there in kdenlive... how can i get it
[15:37] <induz> blkdg, or how can i get kdenlive again working for me
[15:37] <blkdg> i don't understand what "edit line" is.
[15:37] <speed_> i have 10.04...should i upgrade to 10.10? i have 2 giabites of ram with intel pentium 4 3 Ghz
[15:38] <andrea__> sorry
[15:38] <andrea__> connection went down
[15:38] <gartral|cr48> speed_: you wouldn't be dissapointed.
[15:38] <induz> Also i want to install MLT 0.5.10 with kdenlive as per the website
[15:38] <elderman> speed_, why not?
[15:38] <blkdg> induz, grab that ubuntu pkg from the kdenlive folks, reinstall.
[15:39] <speed_> i did with a laptop and it was eating up my resourses
[15:39] <brontoeee> induz, what happens if: which kdenlive
[15:39] <andrea__> juk: what were we saying?
[15:39] <gartral|cr48> speed_: define "Eating up resources"
[15:39] <brontoeee> induz, 'which kdenlive' in terminal
[15:40] <speed_> it was using up a lot of the ram. (old laptop) and slowed it down
[15:40] <R-Touch> speed: latest ubuntu eating up resources? see, that's one of the reasons i'm afraid to make the plunge back.
[15:40] <elfranne> i have edited my network config file and i can t get it up anymore now ... fresh install of 10.10 just updated and nothing more (and MC)
[15:40] <ezra-s> Hello, is there a problem with the gtk theme handling in recent updates? I just installed ubuntu amd64 in one box and after updates panels and inside of windows lose gtk theme, now all looks as default gtk without themes, any workaround fixes?
[15:40] <R-Touch> i have my working windows 7 install here and i love ubuntu but there's always a crack here or there.
[15:40] <induz> brontoeee, I was working on kdenlive since few days, suddenly after updating my system I dont see kdenlive
[15:40] <kamalmv> can apt-get install be run from a folder in pc
[15:40] <juk> andrea__: i think about your screen brightness adjusting
[15:40] <rootlinuxusr> bash script
[15:40] <andrea__> yep
[15:40] <brontoeee> induz, what happens if you type : "which kdenlive" in terminal?
[15:41] <speed_> so i should?
[15:41] <blkdg> brontoeee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569203/
[15:41] <speed_> and the laptop. what vertion would be good for it?
[15:41] <induz> brontoeee, i saved lots of keyboard shortcuts saved
[15:41] <induz> brontoeee, nothing happens when i type that
[15:42] <gartral|cr48> speed_: I'm climbing far out on a limb here and assuming you were probably running chrome...
[15:42] <induz> i am re-installing it -sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[15:42] <blkdg> speed_, here's an idea: use the previous ubuntu;s stable long term release, patch it, and then just update the APPS you want, not the OS. !
[15:42] <MrBlue_NL> hi all, i got a problem with xvnc, anyone to the rescue?
[15:42] <elfranne> sudo service networking stop gives stop unknow instance
[15:42] <jefelex>  /msg NickServ HELP register
[15:43] <induz> maybe its caz i have GNome and its for KDE???
[15:43] <jefelex> oops!]
[15:43] <zamba> is there a quick way to change the default documents path?
[15:43] <zamba> for a set of users?
[15:43] <blkdg> brontoeee, did you look at his locate ?
[15:43] <Dazzled> anyone an idea why I get "Connection refused" when I try to connect() to my localhost through IPv6 and it works fine when I try to connect through IPv4 ?
[15:43] <speed_> chrome os?
[15:43] <andrea__> http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=297 maybe i found something here
[15:44] <erUSUL> zamba: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[15:44] <Dazzled> The server should accept whatever
[15:44] <induz> what is MLT?
[15:44] <ezra-s> come on, nobody knows of a problem with ubuntu gtk themes?
[15:44] <induz> The recommended version of Kdenlive is 0.7.8 and MLT 0.5.10
[15:44] <zamba> erUSUL: is it possible to do this "globally"?
[15:44] <brontoeee> blkdg, yes, what about that?
[15:45] <MrBlue_NL> I got a headless server running Ubuntu 10.04 and use xvnc to create a display to login to the server (using vncviewer). Now, when i plugin a usb stick, it says it is unable to mount it (no permission). I have Googled the problem, but did not came up with a solution, busting my head what I am doing wrong. Anyone has a solution?
[15:45] <brontoeee> induz, what about : 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdenlive'
[15:45] <blkdg> the executable isn't on his system
[15:45] <gartral|cr48> speed_: no.. obviously we're talking about Ubuntu here.. so.. Chrome Browser in Ubuntu.
[15:45] <brontoeee> blkdg, right, i didnt see that that was an output of locate, sorry
[15:45] <speed_> yes  i use that
[15:46] <rcmaehl> Help! my pc does not fully turn off during suspend or hibernate and will not resume.
[15:46] <erUSUL> zamba: really dunno; for existing users you will have to edit that file; for new users i dunno where the file is generated sorry
[15:46] <rcmaehl> I am running Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
[15:46] <blkdg> rcmaehl, hold down the powerbutton
[15:47] <blkdg> seriously
[15:47] <rcmaehl> blkdg: but I want it to susppend
[15:47] <zamba> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[15:47] <sacarlson> Dazzled: what address did you use for localhost?  did you try ping6 ::1 does that work?
[15:47] <blkdg> google the motherboard
[15:47] <induz> brontoeee, i get errors
[15:47] <induz> I get from s/w center 'Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[15:47] <Dazzled> sacarlson: client: connect: Connection refused
[15:47] <Dazzled> ERROR connecting to ::1
[15:47] <Dazzled> I'll try the ping now
[15:48] <Dazzled> ping6 works
[15:48] <sacarlson> Dazzled: what does ifconfig  show as your lo address?
[15:48] <itaylor57> induz: you need to remove the debin os packages mentioned earlier
[15:48] <blkdg> induz, can i suggest for a sec, that you get the whole thing from the software centre?
[15:48] <Chakravanti> how do i set a custom laun cher application to a location (NOT 'location' as a launcher or wtf ever that is) but execute a binary inside a particular directory
[15:48] <Dazzled> Link encap:Local Loopback
[15:48] <Dazzled>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[15:48] <Dazzled>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[15:48] <rcmaehl> blkdg: would there be any log entries?
[15:48] <lamefun> where can I get source code of GNOME?
[15:48] <sacarlson> Dazzled: oh then what port are you trying to connect to when it's refused?
[15:49] <Dazzled> 9134
[15:49] <induz> blkdg, s/w center is giving me this error" 'Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[15:49] <blkdg> rcmaehl, what type of machine?
[15:49] <Dazzled> (I have both the client and server running local)
[15:49] <sacarlson> Dazzled: and what listens on that?  sudo netstat -pant
[15:49] <brontoeee> induz, can you paste the exact error and tell the channel the url
[15:49] <blkdg> rcmaehl, dmesg
[15:49] <rcmaehl> blkdg: Desktop Custom built
[15:50] <blkdg> rcmaehl, motherboard data please.
[15:50] <_AV_> Hi, all. I changed my login screen background in Ubuntu 9.10 but now I want to restore to its original configuration. May you help me with this?
[15:50] <andrea__> let me reboot
[15:50] <FireTalon> has anyone came across a problem that when the x server starts the screen goes all grey with lines through it?
[15:50] <itaylor57> brontoeee: he has debian os sources in his s/w list
[15:50] <netsurf3> hey guys can i get some help on something please
[15:50] <netsurf3> http://pastebin.com/fcG8QP05
[15:50] <Dazzled> sacarlson: there's nothing now
[15:50] <netsurf3> i am getting regular x crashes
[15:51] <blkdg> brontoeee, is this going to be a trip into packagedep hell or what?
[15:51] <Dazzled> sacarlson: but I turned my server off
[15:51] <sacarlson> Dazzled: problem solved
[15:51] <Kbentley57> anyone want to offer some advice on rsync?
[15:51] <blkdg> FireTalon, google your video card. make sure that you have the right drivers.
[15:51] <alaing> trying to install my graphic gard  but when I install the proprietary drivers through the "Hardware Drivers" I get the following error : SystemError: installArchives() failed
[15:51] <Dazzled> sacarlson: not really, because now I'll turn on my server, and it'll still fail to connect on IPv6
[15:51] <Dazzled> and it''l succeed on the IPv4
[15:51] <dumnnut__> hi, i have 10.04 instlled, what synaptic package can i install to bring it ti 10.10?
[15:52] <sacarlson> Dazzled: ok run again sudo netstat -pant
[15:52] <brontoeee> blkdg, nope, i think the official and unoficcila repos got messed somehow, but since i have no idea how to fix that i said to post the url to the channel .
[15:52] <Chakravanti> how do i execute a binary from within a directory via gnome panel launcher?
[15:52] <FireTalon> they come on the cd, its an radeon xpress 1150
[15:52] <FireTalon> suposed to work flawlessly
[15:52] <rcmaehl> blkdg: >< As soon as I find them
[15:52] <induz> brontoeee, here :http://paste.ubuntu.com/569212/
[15:52] <Dazzled> now both the client and server are running
[15:52] <Secrets1235567> http://pastebin.com/YHLzRsv6
[15:53] <Secrets1235567> look
[15:53] <terry> Chakravanti: give the filename
[15:53] <Secrets1235567> how do i fix these errors
[15:53] <alaing> FireTalon: was that for me?
[15:53] <FireTalon> no
[15:53] <Kbentley57> Is there a way to force an Rsync backup?
[15:53] <alaing> also having problems with graphics vard
[15:53] <Dazzled> sacarlson: the server is listed twice
[15:53] <Chakravanti> terry, huh?
[15:53] <Dazzled> once as LISTEN and once as ESTABLISHED
[15:53] <sacarlson> Dazzled: but do they listen on ipv6?  maybe let me see it sudo netstat -pant | pastebinit
[15:54] <brontoeee> induz, explain to the channel, i'am not good enough to fix broken sources/repos and stuff like that
[15:54] <terry> Chakravanti: could be ./filename  or  sh filename or just filename  If the file does not have executable bit assigned to it, first do sudo chmod +x filename
[15:54] <alaing> hi trying to install my graphice card which is a Sapphire HD 5670 512MB GDDR5 HDMI DVI VGA PCI-E Graphics Card so I can see how ubuntu 10.04 on my usb drive will work
[15:54] <alaing> trying to install my graphic gard  but when I install the proprietary drivers through the "Hardware Drivers" I get the following error : SystemError: installArchives() failed
[15:54] <Secrets1235567> how do i fix the errors
[15:54] <Chakravanti> i put in /home/user/application/./binary and it will execute the binary but it won't do it inside the the directory which i need it to do or else it won't find resources the application needs
[15:54] <induz> why i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/569212/
[15:55] <harleypig> Does anyone know how to fix a service and/or networking problem? 'service networking stop' gives 'unknown instance' and start gives 'stop/waiting'.  I have to use ifup eth0 to make it work.
[15:55] <juk> induz: do you know what 404 Not found means?
[15:55] <terry> file /home/user/application/./binary
[15:55] <Kbentley57> some type of connection error induz
[15:55] <toph> alaing: you may want to try getting the latest release of catalyst rather than using the driver installer in ubuntu
[15:55] <toph> alaing: see this link for the installer, http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?27750-Catalyst-10.12-Released-for-Linux
[15:55] <terry> Chakravanti: file /home/user/application/./binary
[15:55] <blkdg> induz, is that box connected to the net?
[15:56] <induz> blkdg, I am online
[15:56] <terry> Chakravanti: In other words, show us how the file is identified by the system.
[15:56] <blkdg> looks like 404 not founf induz
[15:56] <sacarlson> Dazzled:  might I know what application is supposed to be  running on this port 9134?
[15:56] <Dazzled> sacarlson: my c++ server application
[15:56] <andrea_> here i am again
[15:56] <induz> blkdg, I am trying to install Kdenlive from the s/w center but i get dependencies error???
[15:56] <Chakravanti> terry, i'm not sure what you're asking for
[15:57] <Dazzled> sacarlson: I'm writing a client and a server, and I'm testing them locally
[15:57] <toph> alaing: if you aren't sure how to use the installer I'd be happy to give you instructions as well
[15:57] <induz> blkdg, I am on the same system
[15:57] <Chakravanti> it is an executable bit, the application itself works fine this is a gnome panel launcher issue
[15:57] <sacarlson> Dazzled: and the client?
[15:57] <terry> Chakravanti:  file filename-here #And tell us what it says.
[15:57] <Chakravanti> it doesn't say or do anything
[15:57] <Dazzled> sacarlson: the client connectst to localhost 9134
[15:58] <Erien> Hola
[15:58] <itaylor57> blkdg: induz has debian32 distro packages listed in is s/w list
[15:58] <root> root
[15:58] <Dazzled> and it will first attempt IPv6, and if that fails, it'll take IPv4
[15:58] <root> rich
[15:58] <_AV_> Problem solved.
[15:58] <terry> Chakravanti:  open a terminal and give the command:  file <file-name-here>
[15:58] <Dazzled> which is what happens, and I don't get why
[15:58] <Chakravanti> it does launch it if i put up /home/user/application/./binary but it doesn't launch it in the directory /home/user/application/
[15:58] <Erien> Anyone can help me with apache please? Sorry if this is not the channel, I don't know wich channel use
[15:58] <Dazzled> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9134            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      5727/tcp_server
[15:58] <Dazzled> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9134          127.0.0.1:50463         ESTABLISHED 5727/tcp_server
[15:58] <Dazzled> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:50463         127.0.0.1:9134          ESTABLISHED 5728/tcp_client
[15:58] <Guest38588> getting d-link 2330  to work
[15:58] <Chakravanti> could not load texture packages/textures/notexture.png
[15:58] <Chakravanti> could not find core textures
[15:58] <geekahedron_> almost every time I take my laptop to a new location, I have to restart it for the wireless to connect, like it's not "forgetting" the settings from before
[15:58] <terry> Chakravanti: Then why not leave it in the directory where it works?
[15:59] <Chakravanti> i'm not tryign to move the binary
[15:59] <Chakravanti> i'm tryign to create a gnome panel launcher
[15:59] <Chakravanti> i'm trying to GET INTO the directory not move the file
[15:59] <Dazzled> sacarlson:  but they're not in in tcp6
[15:59] <rcmaehl> blkdg: http://pastebin.com/9rQkkuhB
[15:59] <blkdg> itaylor57, could he not rm them, then all then reinstall?
[15:59] <sacarlson> Dazzled: well for one you should pastebinit so we can see it ,  from that I don't see any ipv6 listening
[15:59] <MrBlue_NL> I got a headless server running Ubuntu 10.04 and use xvnc to create a display to login to the server (using vncviewer). Now, when i plugin a usb stick, it says it is unable to mount it (no permission). I have Googled the problem, but did not came up with a solution, busting my head what I am doing wrong. Anyone has a solution?
[16:00] <Chakravanti> but i can't for the life of me goggl eup some syntax for the gnome panle application launcher that makes a lick of sense to do this
[16:00] <itaylor57> blkdg: someting like that, but I haven't ever done that
[16:00] <terry> Chakravanti: I see.  So you want a point-and-click method of executing the file?
[16:00] <Dazzled> sacarlson: Can I send that to you privately?
[16:00] <juk> MrBlue_NL: how you mounting it?
[16:00] <Chakravanti> that's what gnome panel launcher is
[16:00] <Chakravanti> i have gnome panel launcher...so i can do that
[16:00] <sacarlson> Dazzled: yes you can,  you should have something like tcp6       0      0 ::1:631                 :::*                    LISTEN
[16:01] <netsurf3> is there anyway i can obtain libdrm22.4.21 for lucid the stock is .18 and google claims the newer version may fix crashes i am having
[16:01] <Chakravanti> what i want is how to tell gnome panel launcher how to choose a directory
[16:01] <MrBlue_NL> juk: I login to it using vncviewer and plugin a disk into my server. Then it gives an error that it is unable to mount (no permission)
[16:01] <netsurf3> also is anyone aware of what chaos this could cause if i were to compile them by hand?
[16:01] <Erien> How I know wich server name type in Server Name when I install Apache on Windows?? :D
[16:01] <Dazzled> sacarlson: yes, cupsd is on there
[16:01] <induz> ok when i update my Lucid i get this error why>.http://paste.ubuntu.com/569216/
[16:01] <blkdg> rcmaehl, take the mother board's name, google it with suspend and ubuntu in the search
[16:01] <andrea_> ok, i'm leaving
[16:01] <sacarlson> Dazzled: no I mean for your port
[16:02] <andrea_> juk: did you found something?
[16:02] <andrea_> find
[16:02] <rcmaehl> blkdg: NAGAMI2L <- thatit?
[16:02] <Dazzled> sacarlson: It's not there, but I'll make a pastebin
[16:02] <sacarlson> Dazzled: you should see a tcp6 port listen and a tcp listen.  that's why it doesn't work
[16:02] <terry> Chakravanti:   Are you wanting to place an icon on gnome-panel that when clicked on will launch the application?
[16:02] <blkdg> induz, let's try something.
[16:02] <harleypig> Is anyone familiar with a networking problem where service networking stop/start won't work?
[16:03] <blkdg> induz, can you save any of the kdenlive work that you have?
[16:03] <juk> MrBlue_NL: not sure how mout is related to vncsession, but normally only root can do that
[16:03] <Chakravanti> terry yes it's plugged in
[16:03] <terry> Chakravanti: What is plugged in?
[16:04] <rcmaehl> blkdg: 270 results none helpful
[16:04] <Kroosec> Hello, how to read .epub files ?
[16:04] <terry> Chakravanti: Are you talking about an external device of some sort?
[16:04] <geekahedron_> Kroosec: get a library program like calibre
[16:05] <geekahedron_> Kroosec: or any e-book reader
[16:05] <Chakravanti> i was insulting you, i'll figure it out on my own because you're obv useless/clueless/trolling
[16:05] <Kroosec> geekahedron_ , anything specific for Gnome ? Calibre installs a lot of KDE stuff. :)
[16:06] <terry> Chakravanti: You are not being specific.  If you ask a specific question, one of us here could help you.
[16:06] <Chakravanti> i am being very specific
[16:06] <terry> Chakravanti: What is your question?
[16:06] <Chakravanti> you're asking about unrelated crap like you don't have a clue what i'm talking about
[16:06] <xangua> !attitude | Chakravanti
[16:06] <rcmaehl> blkdg: would there be any log entries in the log viewer that might be of help? if so where would I find them?
[16:06] <Chakravanti> how to make gnome p[anel launcher choose a directory before launching an application
[16:07] <blkdg> rcmaehl, yep, take that product: NAGAMI2L vendor: ASUSTek Computer google that
[16:07] <leon> hello there everyone
[16:07] <terry> Chakravanti: What application?
[16:07] <MrBlue_NL> a usb disk should automount when i plug it into my computer, or am i wrong?
[16:07] <Chakravanti> terry, why does it matter?
[16:07] <Chakravanti> it doesn't
[16:07] <blkdg> got to run
[16:07] <Chakravanti> the program is gnome panel launcher and how to use it
[16:07] <Kroosec> How to read .epub files ?
[16:07] <Chakravanti> again with the unrelated trolling
[16:08] <terry> Chakravanti:  We can not tell you how to do something if we don't know what it is your trying to do.
[16:08] <IdleOne> Chakravanti: Just want make sure I understand. you want a launcher that when you click on it it pops up a window that asks what folder to open nautilus to?
[16:08] <xangua> Kroosec: open software centre and search for epub
[16:08] <Chakravanti> IdleOne, no i want it to execute a binary from within a directory\
[16:08] <geekahedron_> Kroosec: look at fbreader, maybe? I'm just googling
[16:08] <magicianlord> Do you recommend 10.04.1 over 10.10 for any legitimate reason?
[16:08] <kv102t> So, Thunderbird never stays is date desc order... Any idea's ?
[16:08] <Chakravanti> normally executing 'path/to/binary' does not select a location
[16:08] <Kranix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10473356
[16:09] <Kbentley57> hey guys, I have a question about a rsync setup.  I think I have everything setup correctly:  I have the server running on my PC, and the client is on a freenas box.  Is there a way to "force" a sync so that I can see if a new newly created files show up on the freenas box?
[16:09] <Chakravanti> it executes the binary from /home/user/ not /home/user/application/
[16:09] <xangua> magicianlord: use what you want, 10.04.2 lts = long term support
[16:09] <h00k> Kbentley57: sure, you can run rsync with whatever options from a terminal
[16:09] <Chakravanti> i really don't think this is that complicated
[16:09] <IdleOne> Chakravanti: ok well the command in the launcher to launch a application would usually be /usr/bin/app_name
[16:10] <Chakravanti> usually
[16:10] <Chakravanti> except that that doesn't choose the location
[16:10] <rcmaehl> http://pastebin.com/HRNjbary <- for whoever can help me now
[16:10] <Kroosec> Thanks guys.
[16:10] <magicianlord> xangua: 10.4.2 is out?
[16:10] <amit> how to play any video or mp3 from terminal?
[16:10] <xangua> magicianlord: 10.04.2 , yes
[16:10] <magicianlord> cool
[16:10] <magicianlord> i will need to download it
[16:10] <amit> ???
[16:10] <K|nG> he file '/home/king/Downloads/wlsetup-web.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[16:11] <K|nG> How I can fix it
[16:11] <rcmaehl> K|nG: open up a terminal
[16:11] <IdleOne> Chakravanti: I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean by choosing a location. normally you launch an application and it launches.
[16:11] <Chakravanti> i need some linguistic context for writing comands into gnome application launcher
[16:11] <payn> hey all
[16:11] <xangua> magicianlord: is just lucid with updates...
[16:11] <rcmaehl> K|nG: cd to the file's directory
[16:11] <K|nG> rcmaehl: yeahh
[16:11] <rcmaehl> K|nG: then do sudo chmod +x wlsetup-web.exe
[16:11] <payn> ive justed downloaded  anarox music player
[16:11] <payn> amarok
[16:11] <payn> sry
[16:12] <Chakravanti> IdleOne, well when you do that you are launching your applicationn in question from your user directory, normally it doesn't affect anything for most applications and you don't notice it but that's what happens
[16:12] <magicianlord> xangua: it is still exciting. i will get it
[16:12] <mycosys> jebus chakravanti - are you so dull that you cant make a freaking batch script that simple, but need to come here abusing people for not understanding your vague requests?
[16:12] <K|nG> rcmaehl: ok
[16:12] <amit> no answer of my question guys
[16:12] <payn> but when i try to play music it dosent work
[16:12] <Chakravanti> sure i'm an asshole thanks anyway
[16:12] <h00k> !language
[16:12] <rcmaehl> K|nG: then you should be able to run the file
[16:12] <mycosys> amit - mplayer
[16:12] <xangua> amit: mplayed
[16:12] <K|nG> rcmaehl: thank you
[16:13] <K|nG> REBOOT now
[16:13] <mycosys> *mplayer - sorry
[16:13] <magicianlord> xangua: what is included in the update
[16:13] <magicianlord> xangua: is it possible for ubuntu to include vlc as part of the standard install evfer
[16:13] <mycosys> amit - if you type man mplayer at the cli it will give you how to use it
[16:13] <xangua> magicianlord: all updates
[16:13] <magicianlord> what is a good image editor for 10.04
[16:13] <xangua> magicianlord: ask mark ;)
[16:14] <payn> hey can anyone help me please?
[16:14] <hektik> hey, my neighbor just moved and gave me his computer. can somone tell me if this computer is any good?
[16:14] <mycosys> you may want to add the medibuntu repos to get full function of patented codecs
[16:14] <induz> hello
[16:14] <magicianlord> fspot is old and doesnt wrok as well in 10.04 as in 10.10
[16:14] <terry> payn: ask away...
[16:14] <GeekMan> where would my cd drive be under dev (is it etc/dev/hdc)
[16:14] <mycosys> amit http://medibuntu.org/
[16:14] <terry> GeekMan: It is very possible it is /dev/hdc but not for sure.
[16:14] <IdleOne> GeekMan: /dev/sr0
[16:14] <geekahedron_> magicianlord: gimp is always good, depends what your needs are
[16:14] <induz> blkdg r u there
[16:15] <payn> Amarok music player, did anyone have problems with it?
[16:15] <foxjazz> how do you update the generic package?
[16:15] <payn> i am
[16:15] <payn> :(
[16:15] <moegreen> hey guys anybody know the name of the screensaver that looks like drawing in sand?? is the best way i can describe it///lines going slowly across the screen on tan background making designs?
[16:15] <terry> GeekMan: You can test the theory with command eject /dev/hdc
[16:16] <adac>  /j #rubyonrails
[16:16] <adac>  /j #rubyonrails
[16:16] <anton> I added an etry to cron via "crontab -e". It disappeared after reboot. how can I avoid that?
[16:16] <GeekMan> yeah thats it
[16:16] <GeekMan> thanks
[16:16] <adac> sr
[16:16] <adac> y
[16:16] <Kbentley57> "/join"
[16:16] <induz> hello why i get this error;http://paste.ubuntu.com/569216/
[16:16] <drc> adac: no space at the begining
[16:16] <toph> payn: I didn't see anything wrong with amarok the last time I used it but I wish there was a kde music player that could play from your library rather than waste time with playlists
[16:16] <payn> :\
[16:17] <terry> GeekMan: And then   eject -t /dev/hdc   to close it again.
[16:17] <toph> payn: but I'm the type of person who will just randomly switch song types when I'm in the mood so players like rhythmbox or banshee suite me better
[16:17] <payn> amarok player
[16:17] <payn> pleaaaaaaaaase
[16:17] <payn> anyone can help?
[16:17] <magicianlord> i purge rhythmbox always
[16:18] <toph> payn: whats your problem with it?
[16:18] <payn> it dosent play
[16:18] <toph> magicianlord: I can't live without it :P
[16:18] <magicianlord> i also purge tomboy, gnome games, gbrainy (dont need a brain when you have magic), ubuntu-one client
[16:18] <payn> no voice comes out
[16:18] <terry> payn: Doesnt play what?
[16:18] <pertheusual> payn: amatok install mp3 codecs
[16:18] <pertheusual> maybe?
[16:18] <terry> payn: What type of file are you tryin  to play?
[16:18] <payn> no voice comes out
[16:18] <toph> payn: either install codecs or change phonon backend to vlc
[16:19] <toph> magicianlord: what music player do you use btw?
[16:19] <payn> amarok
[16:19] <terry> payn: What type of file are you trying  to play?
[16:19] <payn> i used rhythmbox befor
[16:19] <magicianlord> vlc
[16:20] <payn> amarok
[16:20] <magicianlord> sometimes moc
[16:20] <magicianlord> so you would recommend 10.4.2 over 10.10 for what reason
[16:21] <payn> @terry mp3
[16:22] <IdleOne> payn: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[16:22] <toph> lol
[16:22] <pertheusual> hehe
[16:22] <toph> he was so close to the answer
[16:22] <IdleOne> 1 second to late
[16:23] <pertheusual> k, my turn for questions :P
[16:23] <pertheusual> occasionally my computer gets a little invisible box on the screen that doesn't respond to mouse clicks, anyone else have issues with this? I'm thinking maybe a flash issue? I have to reboot to get rid of them, and they build up over time
[16:23] <terry> !mp3 | payn
[16:23] <toph> pertheusual: wow that sounds terrible
[16:23] <alindt> pertheusual: "invisible box"?
[16:23] <speed_> im upgradding now
[16:23] <WeThePeople> are there any ways to make ubuntu 10.04 run faster/
[16:24] <pertheusual> yeah, a square area where clicking has no effect
[16:24] <econdudeawesome>  pertheusual: any unusual processes running in the background?
[16:24] <pertheusual> the current one is about 250x200px, I measured in gimp
[16:24] <econdudeawesome> I believe you can "ctrl+alt+t" to open a terminal and then run top to view processes
[16:25] <toph> pertheusual: so you experience it while watching videos in flash?
[16:25] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: What kind of things are you wanting to do?
[16:25] <magicianlord> do you recommend keeping openoffice installed?
[16:25] <toph> pertheusual: does it ever appear when doing desktop tasks that have nothing to do with flash?
[16:25] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: as in, are you wanting to make it run faster by reinstalling only the most basic of things?
[16:25] <IdleOne> magicianlord: why are you polling the channel?
[16:26] <magicianlord> i need advice
[16:26] <pertheusual> toph: I think it might be happening when flash crashes, but that's only a theory. the process list foesn't mention flash anywhere after the crash
[16:26] <IdleOne> magicianlord: close it, leave it open, up to you.
[16:26] <econdudeawesome> magicianlord: what are you needing advice on?
[16:26] <WeThePeople> econdudeawesome, anything that will make it run faster, my WinXP runs faster than Ubun.
[16:26] <pertheusual> toph: I'm wondering if something crashes and doesn't disconnect whatever graphics context it had, so it just leaves a box?
[16:26] <magicianlord> IdleOne: cant decide whether to keep openoffice installed
[16:26] <magicianlord> the big updates are a hassle
[16:27] <toph> WeThePeople: you could try disabling some of the startup apps if you need to reclaim memory or tweak your kernel/swap settings but most of the performance related stuff is handled well automatically
[16:27] <IdleOne> So remove it if you don't need it.
[16:27] <Fuwex> which files govern the startup of services?
[16:27] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: that's fairly odd. You are running plain vanilla Ubuntu? (regular, out of the box desktop?)
[16:27] <alindt> WeThePeople: runs faster doing what?
[16:27] <magicianlord> but i dont know if i may need it in hte future
[16:27] <linxeh> I've just taken the nvidia graphics card out of my machine and wish to use the onboard intel graphics - how do I tell ubuntu to redetect the onboard intel graphics and use that for X ?
[16:27] <magicianlord> its hard to decide
[16:27] <geekahedron_> anyone familiar with this issue: every time i restart my laptop, the visual effects revert to "none" and i have to manually change it
[16:28] <WeThePeople> econdudeawesome, its 10.04 LTS thats all i know
[16:28] <terry> magicianlord: Exactly what is it that you are trying to accomplish?
[16:28] <toph> pertheusual: yeah but what you are doing at the time of the issue, is it normally watching a video in your browser in flash?
[16:28] <erUSUL> linxeh: remove the xorg.conf file ( /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[16:28] <WeThePeople> alindt, video on the web, opening up app, everything
[16:28] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: would you be willing to get rid of the eye candy? I run lubuntu-desktop when I have a lower-powered computer and it works for my needs. You can install it and choose which session you want at login. the command to get it is "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[16:29] <pertheusual> I honestly don't know. since they are invisible, I don't usually notice them right away, and it's reasonably rare. maybe a new one once a week
[16:29] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: You can still use all the same programs. The only thing that changes is a less needy display--switches from GNOME to LXDE. Wikipedia goes into a good writeup about these.
[16:29] <alindt> pertheusual: by invisible you mean that you discover that clicking inside that area has no effect?
[16:30] <toph> linxeh: you need to create an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then edit it to make sure the driver value reflects the intel driver you are trying to use for your graphics card
[16:30] <pertheusual> yeah
[16:30] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: I do recall when I first added lubuntu-desktop that lxdm and gdm (the things that let you sign in) would occasionally conflict. I resolved this by uninstalling gdm with apt-get
[16:30] <WeThePeople> econdudeawesome, cool, so when i start ubuntu i will need to choose LXDE from the drop down?
[16:31] <j_3784> what is lxde
[16:31] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: you only need to choose it once--it remembers which you chose last. But if you want to switch back you're good to go. I believe it will give you an option for lubuntu and lubuntu netbook, or something akin to that.
[16:31] <GeekMan> BRO ok i just finaly figured out how to make my cd drive on my ibook work you have to manualy enter udisks --poll-for-media /dev/hdc my question is where cna i set this so it does it automaticly   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues
[16:31] <toph> pertheusual: ah I see, try updating flash and see if that helps. If not it could be a driver/compiz bug
[16:31] <econdudeawesome> j_3784: Wikipedia has a pretty good writeup about it. It's a much lower-powered display that replaces GNOME
[16:32] <toph> pertheusual: hard to know what to do when it is rare/difficult to reproduce like that
[16:32] <magicianlord> openbox by itself is better than lxde
[16:32] <geekahedron_> my computer has to search for display drivers every time i start up
[16:32] <geekahedron_> anyway to make it remember what it's using?
[16:32] <econdudeawesome> j_3784: It however does not have much by way of eye candy. Compiz is not compatible. Plus it changes the way the menu looks. But all your apps should run. Also, it switches out terminal for lxterminal
[16:32] <toph> linxeh: do you need help telling ubuntu which driver to use?
[16:33] <terry> GeekMan: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?
[16:33] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: I don't know what the answer to your question is, but I noticed no one has answered yet
[16:33] <toph> geekahedron: specify the driver in xorg.conf
[16:33] <pertheusual> toph: agreed. mostly wanted to see if anyone else had run into it. oh well. I'll keep digging :)
[16:33] <GeekMan> terry: do what lol
[16:33] <linxeh> erUSUL: thanks
[16:33] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: I suspect there should be a config file under /home/<user>./<config file>... Does anyone else know the correct answer to this?
[16:33] <toph> pertheusual: yeah that is a most unusual bug lol, never heard of it before now
[16:34] <terry> GeekMan: Are you using 10.04?
[16:34] <GeekMan> yeah
[16:34] <linxeh> toph: I dont see why these days I should have to edit things when the system detects everything automatically - I'm not back in 1995 using slackware! However, I'm being lazy - I should google this, but I dont have another machine to hand, and the modern web on links/lynx is somewhat painful! I'll try erUSUL's solution first :)
[16:34] <toph> econdudeawesome: yeah the config file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, he needs to create one and specify the driver to use there
[16:35] <Cem_Nome5> hi
[16:35] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: there you go :-) /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the config file.
[16:35] <geekahedron_> toph: i don't have an xorg.conf file ... I thought that was deprecated?
[16:35] <linxeh> erUSUL: worked a treat; thankyou
[16:35] <Code_Bleu> byobu/scree = best thing since sliced bread.  If you are not using it, you should
[16:35] <terry> !pastebin | GeekMan
[16:35] <toph> linxeh: yeah thats the thing, it should be automatic but when it isn't you can just create the file
[16:35] <besogon> hello. I've noticed that Rhythmbox don't show my MP3-player but podcasts are being shown in Music category. This happened after I had upgraded the system. Is this only for me?
[16:35] <erUSUL> linxeh: no problem
[16:35] <toph> geekahedron: X detection is supposed to be automatic now, but in case it doesn't work you can still manually do things through xorg.conf
[16:36] <terry> GeekMan: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[16:36] <Cem_Nome5> I forgot my Root password, there is somehow to recovery it?
[16:36] <Amadiro> Hello. Does anybody have any idea where these kind of outliers may come from? http://i.imgur.com/3J1fg.png . It actually shut down the system at that point.
[16:36] <besogon> I mean if someone noticed something similar?
[16:36] <erUSUL> !lostpassword | Cem_Nome5
[16:36] <econdudeawesome> Cem_Nome5: Do you remember your login password?
[16:36] <GeekMan> so.... i just type pastebininit /etc/fstab
[16:36] <geekahedron_> econdudeawesome, toph: it does detect the driver automatically, but I have to manually change it from "none" to "normal" in the appearance menu
[16:36] <linxeh> toph: sure - its all working now by removing the file
[16:36] <Cem_Nome5> yes of course
[16:36] <Cem_Nome5> im' using right now econdudeawesome
[16:36] <jo-erlend> I'm having some difficulties with partitioning. I cannot remove my partitions, which causes great problems with the alternate installer. How can I remove any sign of any partitions?
[16:37] <GeekMan> terry: so.... i just type pastebininit /etc/fstab
[16:37] <Cem_Nome5> I installed root by this login
[16:37] <erUSUL> !noroot
[16:37] <econdudeawesome> Cem_Nome5: I'm confused--are you trying to do typical new user stuff requiring sudo, or did you set up a root account?
[16:38] <Cem_Nome5> I did set a root account a time ago
[16:38] <Cem_Nome5> but I forgot root password
[16:38] <toph> geekahedron: ah I see, desktop effects aren't working on boot for some reason even though you set them to be on
[16:38] <Cem_Nome5> somethings like start avguard protection, etc have to use root
[16:38] <mamece2> hello, i have this problem: /usr/sbin/sensord error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[16:38] <jo-erlend> I've deleted the partitions using gparted, I've deleted them using fdisk. I've created a new partition table in fdisk, and I've done the same in gparted. No matter what I do, the partitions keep coming back as if I'd never deleted them.
[16:38] <mamece2> hwo can i fix it?
[16:38] <econdudeawesome> Cem_Nome5: ah. I am unable to assist in that regard, as I don't know how best to help you :-)
[16:38] <Cem_Nome5> :(
[16:38] <besogon> jo-erlend: didn't you try fdisk?
[16:38] <Cem_Nome5> I'll see what I can do
[16:38] <erUSUL> !find libgobject-2.0.so.0
[16:39] <econdudeawesome> Cem_Nome5: I've always used sudo for that...
[16:39] <geekahedron_> toph: yes, basically. i'm not sure if it's a driver issue necessarily, but after I change the setting it spends a few seconds "searching for drivers"
[16:39] <jo-erlend> besogon: I have used both fdisk and gparted, but none of them seem to be able to remove the partitions.
[16:39] <erUSUL> mamece2: install libglib2.0-0
[16:39] <nicobn> is there an easy way to record my desktop in video format ?
[16:39] <mamece2> erusul i cant get to GUI i just got CLI
[16:40] <toph> geekahderon: yeah thats just kind of a check to make sure you have 3d accel before trying to start it, it will always do that when changing the desktop effect setting
[16:40] <erUSUL> mamece2:  « sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0 »
[16:40] <GeekMan> oh i got you now hold on
[16:40] <Fuwex> What is 'runlevel S'?
[16:40] <erUSUL> !screencast | nicobn
[16:40] <geekahedron_> toph: okay then, my issue that it's not remembering the effects setting. any ideas?
[16:41] <GeekMan> terry http://pastebin.com/SnGQp4ZE
[16:41] <mamece2> erusul TYVM
[16:41] <alindt> nicobn: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/05/3-ways-to-record-your-linux-desktop.html
[16:41] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: something that I've done before is just to remove and reinstall Xserver... that would perhaps fix the issue but is a little extreme. The issue sounds like its with Metacity or Compiz, not with X
[16:42] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: most likely Compiz as I read over the log just now
[16:42] <toph> geekahedron: do you get any error messages or have any other settings not being saved?
[16:42] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: is Compiz crashing on startup?
[16:42] <mamece2> erusul how can i start GIU from CLI?
[16:42] <geekahedron_> no other errors, nothing crashing that i can tell
[16:42] <econdudeawesome> mamece2: startx
[16:42] <erUSUL> mamece2: sudo start gdm
[16:42] <econdudeawesome> mamece2: thats works too
[16:43] <geekahedron_> my wireless has trouble switching networks, which is the only reason I have to restart as often as i do
[16:44] <mamece2> it doesnt start
[16:44] <matrix> hai guys
[16:45] <nicobn> ubottu, altindt: thank you
[16:45] <mamece2> eursul the same, /usr/sbin/sensord error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[16:45] <besogon> Any help? http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6509623
[16:46] <rcmaehl> HELP! Semi-linux newb about to switch back to windows if he can't get his problem fixed. My pc won't suspend or hibernate correctly. I'll give any info needed to help you help me!
[16:46] <GeekMan> ubottu ATTACK
[16:46] <erUSUL> mamece2: dpkg -S /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
[16:46] <GeekMan> :(
[16:47] <KellyG> Hey everyone, I've got a script I want to run as root after I log in. I tried making an upstart script but I'm not sure how to get it to run after login (it's running after gdm starts at the moment). Any ideas?
[16:47] <erUSUL> KellyG: what does this script do ?
[16:47] <terry> GeekMan: I can give you a possible temporary work-around if you like.
[16:47] <GeekMan> yeah?
[16:47] <KellyG> erUSUL:  modifies traffic control using "tc"
[16:48] <ChogyDan> rcmaehl: can you give any more details?
[16:48] <terry> GeekMan: Did you read the information on the bug report?
[16:48] <GeekMan> yeah
[16:48] <serialize> have you tried adding it to applications startup?
[16:48] <erUSUL> KellyG: then you should call them from if-up.d or some network manager script ....
[16:48] <jo-erlend> if I want to remove all signs of any partitioning on a harddisk. Is it sufficient to just overwrite the first megabyte?
[16:48] <econdudeawesome> ubottu: you are awesome
[16:48] <econdudeawesome> ubottu: you are a bot
[16:48] <econdudeawesome> ;-)
[16:48] <GeekMan> i can do that im just wanting to make it runn that udisks command automaticly
[16:48] <mamece2> erusul that command resolves this : NOT FOUND
[16:48] <cynical> geekahedron:  hey have you ever saved your gnome session using the startup preferences before?
[16:48] <erUSUL> mamece2: o.0!
[16:49] <KellyG> erUSUL: Good idea :)
[16:49] <terry> GeekMan: I cant tell you how to do that because it needs to be run each time you place a disk in the drive.
[16:49] <mamece2> erusul how can i make it back? :(
[16:49] <cynical> geekahedron: you may have metacity set to run at startup instead of compiz
[16:49] <rcmaehl> ChogyDan: seems to suspend/hibernate video goes off all inputs stop working but it doesn't power off to the blinking light or have anything turn off (eg fans hdds) and there's no way to resume/wake up the system.
[16:49] <R-Touch> ubottu: after years of research, i have devised a way to give a bot an orgasm using only my penis. shall i demonstrate?
[16:49] <KellyG> erUSUL: Where would I go about doing it more generically (ie. for other scripts I might want to run)? /etc/local.rc is deprecated right?
[16:49] <GeekMan> hmm i can live until then i suppose at least now my drive works :)
[16:50] <erUSUL> mamece2: what version of ubuntu is this? 64 bits or 32 ? how did you installed sensord?
[16:50] <kty1104> hello
[16:50] <R-Touch> unintelligent sex partners are my favourites
[16:50] <ChogyDan> rcmaehl: is this both suspend and hibernate?
[16:50] <terry> GeekMan: Ok very good.
[16:50] <xangua> !ops | R-Touch
[16:50] <rcmaehl> ChogyDan: yep
[16:50] <GeekMan> i might do some googing and my be a post on a forum
[16:50] <erUSUL> KellyG: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Solution%20#2%20/etc/network/if-pre-up.d%20and%20../if-post-down.d
[16:50] <mamece2> erusul im sorry, i typed it wrong, i run the command , it does nothing. i have 32 bit ubuntu.
[16:50] <ChogyDan> rcmaehl: and what version of ubuntu?
[16:51] <erUSUL> mamece2: paste the output of --> apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0
[16:51] <erUSUL> !paste
[16:51] <kty1104> does anybody know where the tarball file outputted? by ROOTSTOCK?
[16:51] <erUSUL> KellyG: either use the ifup.d or the Network manager solution
[16:51] <rcmaehl> distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10]
[16:51] <rcmaehl> ChogyDan: ^
[16:51] <Cem_Nome5> econdudeawesome I found a way... :D I'll have to press esc when computer starts and then do a thing and it'll reset the password
[16:51] <KellyG> erUSUL: Awesome, thanks so much for your help :)
[16:52] <erUSUL> KellyG: no problem
[16:52] <cynical> geekahedron: I was just thinking that a really simple solution for you would be to just create a startup item that does compiz --replace &
[16:52] <kty1104> T.T nobody helps me...
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> Cem_Nome5: that works
[16:53] <cynical> geekahedron: it wouldn't be as nice as ubuntu doing it but it would solve the issue for now
[16:53] <rcmaehl> kty1104: that's b/c no one knows
[16:53] <kty1104> what is b/c?
[16:53] <rcmaehl> b/c = because
[16:53] <crazydip> how do i remove all lines that have non-latin characters from a txt file (using sed or whatever)?
[16:53] <cynical> kty1104: what is your question?
[16:53] <erUSUL> kty1104: rephrase the uqestion. what is ROOTSTOCK? what tarball are you talking about?
[16:53] <mamece2> erusul libglib2.0-0: installed 2.25.14-1ubuntu1 candidate  2.25.14-1ubuntu1 . Do u need moire?
[16:53] <kty1104> I am trying to install ubuntu on android phone
[16:54] <kty1104> for that, I need to convert ubuntu to ARM base ubuntu
[16:54] <kty1104> rootstock is for making arm base ubuntu
[16:54] <ChogyDan> rcmaehl: Well, I've heard that hibernation etc is just not that well supported.  I would..  see if anyone has experience with your hardware, try the tuxonice kernel, _maybe_ try out natty, then give up and switch back to windows if you need hibernation
[16:54] <erUSUL> mamece2: i do not get it. you have the package installed but the file is not there? what does « ls -al /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 » says ?
[16:55] <sss> Is there such a thing as disk defragmenter for Ubuntu?
[16:55] <rcmaehl> sss: nope not needed
[16:55] <erUSUL> sss: no
[16:55] <ruan> sss: not needed
[16:56] <Cem_Nome5> I'll try econdudeawesome
[16:56] <GeekMan> what about if you share that disk drive with windows
[16:56] <ruan> GeekMan: then defrag with windows?
[16:56] <Saik> hey guys. I got a question: Who here as an ebook reader that works well with ubuntu, how easy is it to put new stuff on it (and move materials around) and which one do you use?
[16:56] <Ziber> If I set up a simple NFS on ubuntu, will windows clients on my LAN be able to see them?
[16:56] <dawn_irc> Hello
[16:57] <kty1104> anybody has experience with install Ubuntu on Android Phone?
[16:57] <erUSUL> Ziber: you will have to install an add on for unix compatibility to windows machines.
[16:57] <GeekMan> is that possible
[16:57] <kty1104> GeekMan: yes
[16:57] <ruan> Saik: there are ebook applications in ubuntu software center
[16:57] <IdleOne> kty1104: in #ubuntu-offtopic a couple people have, not sure if they are awake right now but you can try asking
[16:57] <ruan> Saik: but ubuntu reads pdfs
[16:57] <GeekMan> whats the requirements
[16:58] <kty1104> IldeOne Thanks!!
[16:58] <KB1JWQ> !defrag
[16:58] <erUSUL> Ziber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Services_for_UNIX
[16:58] <tsimpson> GeekMan: the ext family of filesystems simply don't get fragmented, it's only the default windows filesystems (FAT and NTFS) that do
[16:58] <Saik> ruan: I'm looking for the hardware, not the software
[16:58] <ruan> Saik: ah ok
[16:58] <cynical> sss: you can defrag your disk but the tool requires kernel patches and generally isn't considered necessary because most linux file systems are journaled so data corruption is minimal
[16:58] <magicianlord> thanks ubottu
[16:59] <GeekMan> HAHA wow more reason for me to stay away i havnet used windows in 5 weeks now
[16:59] <Saik> ruansoftware is the easy part lol
[16:59] <magicianlord> is fragmentatino avoided on ext4 when noatime is used?
[16:59] <Saik> ruan: software is the easy part lol *
[16:59] <mamece2> erusul the files there, but i think the problem i that the file is empty or something
[16:59] <erUSUL> magicianlord: i do not see what noatime has to do with fragmentation
[16:59] <tsimpson> noatime has little to do with fragmentation
[16:59] <cynical> magicianlord: no, noatime just saves space/resources
[16:59] <erUSUL> mamece2: do « ls -l /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 »
[16:59] <terry> GeekMan: Be careful!  You stay here long enough, you'll never go back!  ;)
[16:59] <magicianlord> erUSUL: it turns off journaling almost
[16:59] <erUSUL> magicianlord: worng
[17:00] <erUSUL> magicianlord: wrong
[17:00] <GeekMan> lol
[17:00] <Ziber> I'm currently running samba for filesharing. I have it mounted on a different Linux machine. I want to be able to write to the mount dir with my non-root account.
[17:00] <econdudeawesome> GeekMan: explain? I fire up windows occasionally for work-related MS Office (WINE doesn't run so hot on a netbook) and Age of Wonders (won't run under WINE For some reason)
[17:00] <tsimpson> econdudeawesome: does OpenOffice not work for you?
[17:00] <mamece2> erusul is there
[17:00] <terry> !samba | Ziber
[17:01] <GeekMan> econdudeawsome cant say
[17:01] <erUSUL> mamece2: then i duno why sensord can not see it.-
[17:01] <cynical> magicianlord: noatime just disables recording of last access time on files, journaling is logging writes
[17:01] <econdudeawesome> tsimpson: for my normal requirements, sure. But OO's track changes is not fully compatible with MSOffice--and good luck getting that company to switch over
[17:01] <magicianlord> cynical: how do you turn off journaling in a ssd
[17:01] <GeekMan> once i quit playing pcgames i jsut stopped windows all together
[17:01] <erUSUL> magicianlord: try « sudo ldconfig »
[17:01] <magicianlord> also, i had some errors when upgrading the kernel, bec tmp and var/log are set as tmpfs in fstab. is this ok?
[17:02] <mamece2> erusul is lookin in the /usr/SBIN folder, not /usr/lib
[17:02] <geekahedron_> cynical: i took your suggestion, kind of -- I rebooted and ran "compiz --replace &" from the terminal
[17:02] <econdudeawesome> GeekMan: I play *most* games in Linux. I just enjoy that really really old one
[17:02] <magicianlord> erUSUL: is that safe
[17:02] <Saik> hey guys. I got a question: Who here as an ebook reader that works well with ubuntu, how easy is it to put new stuff on it (and move materials around) and which one do you use? (hardware, not software)
[17:02] <GeekMan> agreed
[17:02] <econdudeawesome> geekahedron_: how'd it turn out?
[17:02] <erUSUL> magicianlord: sorry that was not for you
[17:02] <geekahedron_> cynical: it worked, but i got an error afterward
[17:02] <geekahedron_> failed to load external entity "/home/geekahedron/.compiz/session/104e6f0593e8466170129813469757036400000016660007"
[17:02] <GeekMan> i wish i had an ebbok read wish i could help
[17:02] <erUSUL> mamece2: you touched /etc/ld.so.conf ? or something
[17:02] <popey> Saik: kindle + calibre on Ubuntu = win
[17:02] <erUSUL> mamece2: try « sudo ldconfig »
[17:03] <econdudeawesome> popey: I'll keep that in mind
[17:03] <cynical> magicianlord: it is a mount option, I belive it is data=writeback
[17:03] <j_3784> econdudeawesome : A version of directx is coming for windows soon should make developing games for linux easier and linux better for us
[17:03] <erUSUL> magicianlord: ext4 has a no journal mode but i dunno how to enable it
[17:03] <Saik> popey: there a link to calibre's wiki or something?
[17:03] <econdudeawesome> How would you guys go about managing an iPod touch with Ubuntu?
[17:03] <Saik> <not on ubuntu atm
[17:03] <popey> Saik: calibre is in the ubuntu repository
[17:03] <erUSUL> !ipod > econdudeawesome
[17:03] <gartral|cr48> econdudeawesome: music, or apps?
[17:03] <GeekMan> j_3784 this is good to know
[17:03] <econdudeawesome> j_3784: sweet deal. All my games that I play are like 10 years old tho, so I don't know how much they'll help me. AoW, Starcraft, etc.
[17:03] <Cem_nome5> econdudeawesome actually only typeing "Sudo passwd" on terminal could change my root pw without knowing the old one
[17:03] <Cem_nome5> :o
[17:03] <mamece2> erusul i didnt touch anything, i was just trying to install rythmbox, to update it
[17:03] <magicianlord> is it worth doing on a ssd
[17:04] <Saik> popey: I'm not on the linux machine atm
[17:04] <econdudeawesome> Cem_nome5: that would work too. I'll keep that in mind
[17:04] <Cem_nome5> I love my ubuntu <3
[17:04] <Cem_nome5> c ya
[17:04] <econdudeawesome> gartral|cr48: all. I understand apps require iTunes to install?
[17:04] <popey> Saik: its still in the repo whether you're on linux or not :D
[17:04] <econdudeawesome> gartral|cr48: at least initially.
[17:04] <gartral|cr48> Cem_nome5: no.. it won't let you run a sudo command without your pass..
[17:04] <cynical> geekahedron: ah so that is the problem, this is an upgraded ubuntu right?
[17:04] <drc> Saik: There is a channel on claibre here  #calibre
[17:04] <mamece2> erusul sudo ldconfig does nothing, is taht ok?
[17:04] <geekahedron_> cynical: no, clean install of 10.10
[17:04] <GeekMan> i tunes should think about swtiching to linux and drop windows
[17:04] <Saik> drc: thx
[17:05] <GeekMan> XD
[17:05] <erUSUL> mamece2: dunno; try sensord; does it work now?
[17:05] <YamatoPotter> can some help me? how can I install GCC on Ubuntu 10.10
[17:05] <magicianlord> or should i not bother with anything except noatime on a ssd
[17:05] <cynical> geekahedron: ok well try removing compiz and reinstalling it
[17:05] <econdudeawesome> YamatoPotter: it most likely is already installed
[17:05] <erUSUL> !b-e | YamatoPotter
[17:05] <econdudeawesome> YamatoPotter: to check, open up synaptic and search for "gcc"
[17:05] <magicianlord> also, why does the same installation show as 1.9gb on one pc and 2.1 gb on another
[17:05] <erUSUL> YamatoPotter: install build-essential package
[17:06] <cynical> geekahedron: or doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure compiz from a terminal
[17:06] <econdudeawesome> YamatoPotter: that works too
[17:06] <cynical> geekahedron: and restarting it
[17:06] <WeThePeople> edudeawesome, thx for the recommendation, it is definitely runnin faster
[17:06] <YamatoPotter> no no .. GCC .. the compiler ..
[17:06] <joshb> how can i get sound in order with the gstreamer stuff ?
[17:06] <drc> Saik: if you get good answer(s) there, let me/us know, I'd be interested to know
[17:06] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: I was amazed the first time. Also: you can type a couple of letters and <tab> to get the rest of someones name
[17:06] <Saik> drc:I'm goona look over the site first :P
[17:06] <itaylor57> YamatoPotter: you need to install build-essentials
[17:06] <drc> Saik: Calibre's site?
[17:07] <Kranix> I think I accidentally hit some keyboard shortcut that seems to have reversed my colors...
[17:07] <joshb> i got a list of 10+ packages i should install so that it might work, but half isn't even on the package manager list...
[17:07] <Saik> drc: yes
[17:07] <econdudeawesome> YamatoPotter: It usually comes default in Ubuntu installations, and is invoked in the command line
[17:07] <mamece2> erusul remember i cannot get to GUI
[17:07] <Kranix> How to revert it?
[17:07] <ruan> Kranix: Windows key + M
[17:07] <Kranix> Great, worked.
[17:07] <WeThePeople> econdudeawesome, thx again
[17:07] <GeekMan> question why is it that if you type yes in the command line its does the letter y infinatly
[17:07] <ruan> i did that out of curiosity if it did the same thing as windows
[17:07] <erUSUL> mamece2: how did you updated RythmBox?
[17:07] <erUSUL> GeekMan: becvouse yes is a command that does just that
[17:07] <econdudeawesome> WeThePeople: not a prob. Glad to be of help. Lubuntu is also nice because most hotkeys line up with windows (i.e. win+e opens file manager and the like)
[17:08] <erUSUL> GeekMan: it prints y or whatever char you pass it over and over again
[17:08] <GeekMan> so its if you have to say yes alot
[17:08] <erUSUL> GeekMan: "man yes"
[17:08] <nicobn> I'm using Record My Desktop to do a screencast, but the sound is not aligned with the video, how can I fix this ?
[17:08] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL: GeekMan: lol
[17:08] <GeekMan> what about no theres no no
[17:09] <erUSUL> GeekMan: you do « yes n »
[17:09] <GeekMan> ahhhhhhh
[17:09] <GeekMan> cool
[17:10] <erUSUL> it was for ununtended upgrades and the like? do you want to do this (y/n)? do you *really* want to do this (y/n)? this your last chance do you *REALLY* want to do this (y/n)? ...
[17:11] <cynical> WeThePeople: go here and read up on swappiness, that may help you, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[17:12] <ruan> whats the use of swap if enough ram is available?
[17:12] <speed_> i cant upgrade to 10.10. it says there is a pakage maniger open
[17:12] <erUSUL> speed_: and there is one open?
[17:12] <ruan> speed_: is ubuntu software center open?
[17:12] <GeekMan> any ways i asked be cause my friend tried the commandline and typed yes adn we were like WHAT
[17:12] <speed_> no
[17:12] <speed_> it was\
[17:12] <mamece2> erusul how can i repair tha usr/sbin/sensord?
[17:13] <xocolatl> hi.  my sound often stops working and the only way I know to fix it is to reboot.  it's not working right now, can someone help me diagnose? (using maverick)
[17:13] <GeekMan> GEEKMAN  AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[17:13] <erUSUL> mamece2: really dunno; i asked how did you updated RythmBox; because you say the problem ocurred after that event
[17:13] <speed_> there is no other windows open
[17:13] <ShakeyJake> r
[17:13] <econdudeawesome> ruan: sometimes not enough RAM is available
[17:13] <cynical> ruan: depends on your usage, if you never get close to the max amount available then it isn't very useful
[17:13] <ruan> speed_: you can try a reboot
[17:13] <speed_> k
[17:14] <econdudeawesome> ruan: BUt I run a netbook with 2GB of RAM and have never got around to actually finishing setting up a swap folder (doesn't just have to be a partition) and I rarely wish I had finished
[17:14] <erUSUL> xocolatl: sometimes pulseaudio dies. run « start-pulseaudio-x11 » in alt + f2
[17:14] <mamece2> erusul i dont remember :( i just tryed some command and the pc slowed down, and i was not able to turn it off or reboot, so i forced it and turn it off
[17:14] <speed_> rebootion
[17:14] <erUSUL> mamece2: you do not remember the command?
[17:14] <speed_> 9im using a seperate computer to irc
[17:14] <mamece2> erusul i just google it and put the first command i saw, let me check
[17:14] <xocolatl> erUSUL: no, that didn't change anything.  any other ideas?
[17:15] <erUSUL> mamece2: :S
[17:15] <ruan> econdudeawesome: i have 3gb of ram and i have yet to find a program that utilises it all
[17:15] <cynical> xocolatl: are you getting any errors? or running a particular app when it happens?
[17:15] <econdudeawesome> ruan: Matlab with a 200x2000x50 matrix would fill it up I believe
[17:15] <erUSUL> xocolatl: dmesg | tail -n25 » does not shed any light either?
[17:15] <ruan> econdudeawesome: lol
[17:15] <erUSUL> !info octave
[17:15] <cynical> ruan: I have a lot of ram as well but sometimes things can get crazy, like when I use a lot of tabs and load some flash videos in firefox I can get 600+ mb of memory usage from that alone lol
[17:15] <SpeedrunnerG55> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[17:15] <SpeedrunnerG55> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[17:15] <econdudeawesome> ruan: I do a lot of scientific programming. SSH into a server obviously ;-)
[17:16] <econdudeawesome> !info octave3.2
[17:16] <xocolatl> cynical: no gui errors, I don't know which logs to check.  what I did this most recent time was pause rhythmbox and click on a youtube link.  other times have been different (non)actions
[17:16] <SpeedrunnerG55> (im speed_)
[17:16] <erUSUL> SpeedrunnerG55: upgrade the system before attemping the release-upgrade
[17:16] <mamece2> erusul i messed up
[17:16] <xocolatl> erUSUL: looking at that now
[17:16] <terry> mamece2: Did you try looking at history?
[17:17] <mamece2> terry how can i ?
[17:17] <terry> mamece2: history
[17:17] <erUSUL> if he force rebooted history may be lost but worth a try
[17:17] <xocolatl> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/LknimPpb
[17:17] <terry> mamece2: Open a terminal and type "history" (without quotes), and hit enter.
[17:18] <mamece2> terry theres a lot of lines, how can i make it page by page?
[17:18] <xocolatl> erUSUL: I don't know what any of that means :(
[17:18] <econdudeawesome> history should be preserved after reboot. Usually is for me
[17:18] <mamece2> terry open terminal? I CANT GET INTO GUI , i just got CLI
[17:18] <terry> mamece2: Hold the shift key and hit Page Up.
[17:18] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: hard reboot after crash
[17:18] <ddi> valdyn: if i set -o job-page-limit=10 and job-quota-period=60 then does it mean that the maximum pages that will be printed in 60 seconds irrespective of users will be 10 or it means that in 60 sec each user can print max of 10 pages
[17:18] <ddi> if i set -o job-page-limit=10 and job-quota-period=60 then does it mean that the maximum pages that will be printed in 60 seconds irrespective of users will be 10 or it means that in 60 sec each user can print max of 10 pages
[17:19] <SpeedrunnerG55> i checked for updates and therer were none
[17:19] <erUSUL> mamece2: run « history | less » in cli
[17:19] <econdudeawesome> mamece2: ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 opens up a TTY shell and allows you to look at stuff
[17:19] <erUSUL> xocolatl: nothing related to sound
[17:19] <econdudeawesome> mamece2: and you can switch between different shells as needed. Technically not terminal, but in name only
[17:20] <xocolatl> erUSUL: any other ideas to try before I reboot to get sound back?
[17:20] <cynical> xocolatl: tryoing sudo service pulseaudio restart
[17:20] <cynical> xocolatl: try doing*
[17:20] <econdudeawesome> cynical: can that also be controlled through alsamixer?
[17:20] <erUSUL> cynical: in ubuntu PA is per session
[17:21] <xocolatl> cynical: no change
[17:21] <cynical> econdude: volume can, not sound server tho
[17:21] <mamece2> I GOT IT
[17:21] <xocolatl> cynical: erUSUL: I did it without sudo and also no effect
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> mamece2: Got it as in you understand an now hate the fact we're going on and on, or got the command and know hat to do?
[17:22] <mamece2> erusul terry sudo dd-apt-get-repository ppa:webupd8team/rythmbox && sudo apt-get-update
[17:22] <ddi> in my office we recieve folders containing hard copies of mail which we sign on daily basis, is there a software in ubuntu that can circulate scanned mail to predefined users and document their coments along the way
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> i7-Cud4: Nice. Do you code in CUDA?
[17:22] <econdudeawesome> mamece2: got it :-)
[17:22] <erUSUL> mamece2: and that hanged?
[17:23] <erUSUL> mamece2: anyway can you run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade » now ?
[17:23] <mamece2> erusul and that lasted for ages with no result, and then i cannot kill the app, and couldnt turn off or reboot
[17:23] <mman> hi, i just boot my pc and got the initramfs, how do i get rid of it for a normal boot??
[17:24] <erUSUL> mman: if you got to initramfs the something happened. do you get any error message?
[17:24] <erUSUL> mman: like, no root found,. or give up waiting for root or something like that ( no init found )
[17:25] <ruan> mamece2: small suggestion, but you spelt rhythmbox wrong
[17:25] <xocolatl> erUSUL: cynical: I'm going to reboot now to get sound back.  thanks for your attempts at helping, one of these days I'll figure it out and it can get fixed
[17:25] <jonta_> Might have a platform-specific problem here. Can't link to other documents using Google Docs. Only to bookmarks, emailaddresses and webaddresses. Anyone care to try on GNU/Linux? Highlight text, Insert -> Link. Thanks.
[17:25] <mamece2> this is HELL
[17:26] <erUSUL> xocolatl: ok
[17:26] <basy> Hi I need to do [echo disable > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe01] i can do that as root, but each time i reset PC it is back to "enable".. How to fix it to disable ???
[17:26] <mamece2> a lot of errors when i try apt-get-update and upgrade..
[17:26] <erUSUL> basy: put that command in /etc/rc.local for example
[17:26] <cynical> xocolatl: sorry I couldn't help more
[17:26] <erUSUL> mamece2: can you pastebin them?
[17:26] <mman> erUSUL, im on a laptop and had some energy problems and then got the initramfs
[17:27] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[17:27] <jorge> boas
[17:27] <mamece2> erusul the ethernet port isnt even UP, i cant get to GUI i just got CLI, how can i copy paste that info without GUI?
[17:27] <jorge> alguém que me pode ajudar?
[17:27] <erUSUL> mman: sometimes doing "exit" in the initramfs can continue the boot process but usually there is some underlying issue
[17:27] <mman> erUSUL, the last msg that it gives me is: attached SCSI removable disk
[17:27] <erUSUL> !pastebinit | mamece2
[17:27] <jorge> hey, can someone help me?
[17:28] <mman> erUSUL, i typed exit but nothing happened, it just hold there
[17:28] <jonta_> jorge: Don't ask to ask
[17:28] <jonta_> Just ask
[17:28] <erUSUL> mamece2: you use ethernet? try « sudo dhclient eth0 » to get to internet
[17:28] <jonta_> (:
[17:28] <ledbettj> Hi folks, having an issue with a newly installed intel 4965agn wireless card (MiniPCIe).  The device isn't even showing up in lspci, although it's recognized and works fine in windows on the same laptop.
[17:28] <ofauchon> Hi ... 10.04 is a LTS... is 10.10 still LTS ?
[17:28] <erUSUL> mamece2: then something else is wrong. reboot and look for the error that drops you to the initramfs
[17:28] <erUSUL> ofauchon: no
[17:28] <jonta_> ofauchon: No
[17:29] <ofauchon> Thanks !
[17:29] <jorge> I installed ubuntu on a PC that walked here, and am having some problems.
[17:29] <jorge> Since I'm in the attic, I have to use a 2nd router (Linksys, the 1st is the Zon HUB), and use that same address that the router is 192.168.2.1, having to manually configure every machine to have Internet. In Windows, never had a problem, but in Linux (Mint, Ubuntu) the internet works, but is very slow. Whenever I access a site, is 2 minutes to say, "solving the server ..." . Here are the config that's inserted in the cable connection:
[17:29] <jorge> http://i51.tinypic.com/11ki5oi.png
[17:29] <jorge> how can I fix this? :s
[17:29] <mamece2> erusul tyvm i am runing upgrade and update, when igrow up i want to be like u
[17:29] <erUSUL> mman: then something else is wrong. reboot and look for the error that drops you to the initramfs
[17:30] <erUSUL> mamece2: btw the last comment was not for you
[17:30] <mman> erUSUL, it is too fast, cant read what is the problem, how can i read it?
[17:30] <erUSUL> mamece2: tyvmj
[17:30] <cbacelar> hi. how can i configure the wireless device on my dell mini10?
[17:30] <SpudDogg> oh dear...i'm about to run an XP virtual machine because i cannot seem to RDP into my work computer any other way...anyone have a way that will work to RDP from ubuntu to windoze 7?
[17:30] <SpudDogg> terminal server client won't connect
[17:30] <SpudDogg> just tells me connection reset by peer
[17:30] <jorge> anyone?
[17:31] <erUSUL> mman: i would edit grub menu to remove splash and quiet from kernel line
[17:31] <mman> erUSUL, just typed exit and got the following: cant open /root/dev/console : no such file
[17:31] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: its prob the firewall on the Winblows 7 pc blocking it
[17:31] <SpudDogg> nah, i can connect from other windows machines
[17:31] <Starminn> !eol > ofauchon: This will shwo you the support cycle for each version ---
[17:32] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: what version OS you running (linux)
[17:32] <SpudDogg> 10.10
[17:32] <Starminn> !eol > ofauchon (these will show you the reupport dates of all versions)
[17:32] <ofauchon> Starminn, thx
[17:32] <Starminn> ofauchon. Yep. First link in there. :)
[17:32] <jorge> ...
[17:33] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: are you trying to connect via IP or DNS?
[17:33] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu: tried both ways
[17:33] <mman> erUSUL, how would i do that?
[17:33] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: everything else network related works on Ubuntu?
[17:33] <mman> erUSUL, with a live cd?
[17:34] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  yes, in fact i can even mount a share on that doze7 computer...
[17:34] <erUSUL> mman: when booting in the grub menu press "e" to edit the menu entry
[17:34] <ofauchon> Starminn, that's clear .
[17:34] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: did you select RDP or RDPv5?
[17:34] <erUSUL> mman: remove splash and quiet from the kernel line and do "ctl +x " to boot the modified entry?
[17:34] <cbacelar> i need to configure the wireless device on my dell mini 10. can anyone help me?
[17:34] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  i think it has something to do with the fact that it's a computer on my work's domain.  tried both RDP versions
[17:35] <mman> erUSUL, now..?
[17:35] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: are you trying to RDP via a VPN connection or anything?
[17:35] <erUSUL> mman: crtl + x to boot the modified entry
[17:35] <mman> erUSUL, just did it and again i land in the same place
[17:35] <erUSUL> mman: you should be able to see more info
[17:36] <Starminn> ofauchon: Thought it might be a bit more helpful than a "yes or no." :) Sorry it took so long though, I forgot the call for the bot. :) But yes, so now you know. :) Glad to have helped.
[17:36] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  the win7 machine is connected to openvpn, but it's on my local network.  im trying to connect via my subnet
[17:36] <mman> erUSUL, yes, but it gets too fast and get to the same point
[17:36] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  meaning the machine is physically here, has a local IP, but also is on work's domain
[17:36] <SpudDogg> err VPN
[17:37] <NooBoontoo> Is there a way to find out what my IP number is?
[17:38] <erUSUL> NooBoontoo: yours or your router's ?
[17:38] <ruan> there are quite a few ways
[17:38] <mman> NooBoontoo, yes, in a console write down ifconfig
[17:38] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: run nmap -v <ip of windows pc>
[17:38] <jonta_> Anyone care to check on my GDocs-question?
[17:38] <jsw_> Hi, guys, I'm having a terrible time installing ubuntu 10.10 onto my machine.  I have a 3ware 9650SE RAID card, and this presented a challenge when I originally loaded 6.04 (years ago) and now I am having trouble again.  From a clean install, it gets to "grub is loading please wait..." or whatever, and no further.
[17:38] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  think i have it
[17:38] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  one sec
[17:39] <jsw_> Also the installer formatted my /home partition even though I unchecked the "format" box for that partition, which was an unpleasant surprise :(  But I did make a backup first.
[17:39] <NooBoontoo> mman thx
[17:39] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: Get it working?
[17:40] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  laptop was set to require network level authentication.  when i turned that off it worked perfectly.  facepalm @ me
[17:40] <SpudDogg> Code_Bleu:  thanks for the help though :)
[17:40] <Code_Bleu> SpudDogg: good deal, np
[17:40] <mkanyicy_>  /nick mkanyicy
[17:41] <kv102t> So, Thunderbird never stays is date desc order... Any idea's ?
[17:41] <NooBoontoo> Is it normal that when I download a web page and then want to see it off line, no pictures are available? I think pictures go to a folder, not all web pages do this, but why some do?
[17:41] <induz> why I am getting dependies error when i install Kdenlive
[17:41] <oal> Is Devilspie compatible with Ubuntu 10.10 or is there something like it available?
[17:41] <ruan> kv102t: did you click on date to sort it?
[17:41] <NooBoontoo> I am trying to download some manuals, but pictures arent shown when i am offline
[17:41] <induz> also, what is Lpackagekit, is it going to work on Gnome??
[17:42] <induz> or i have to download KDE
[17:42] <kv102t> ruan: yep, but then when i close and open again it's all over the place aain
[17:42] <mkanyicy> NooBoontoo, try to use 'wget'
[17:42] <mkanyicy> NooBoontoo, type 'man wget' and read the options available to you
[17:42] <induz> hello
[17:43] <ikonia> induz: it's a KDE application
[17:43] <ikonia> induz: did you read the documentation at all on it ?
[17:43] <induz> is it going to work on Gnome
[17:43] <ikonia> induz: is gnome KDE ?
[17:43] <induz> can i install KDE on Lucid?
[17:44] <induz> ikonia, i am reading a lot about ubuntu but...i need some help too
[17:44] <drc> NooBoontoo: are you trying to download the web page from within a browser, and if so, which one?
[17:44] <Starminn> !kde | induz
[17:44] <ikonia> induz: you don't seem to read up on anything and just ask in here
[17:44] <pratik_narain> I cannot boot from maverick live cd. plz help.
[17:44] <itaylor57> induz: pastebin your software sources
[17:44] <Starminn> pratik_narain: What happens when you try?
[17:44] <ruan> pratik_narain: is it set in BIOS to boot first?
[17:45] <ikonia> induz: you can run KDE applications on gnome, but if it's one for manilpulating KDE components, it may not be the best platform
[17:45] <ikonia> induz: you'll need the KDE core components installed, but you can run them from gnome
[17:45] <NooBoontoo> drc http://www.digilab.uni-hannover.de/docs/manual.html
[17:45] <jsw_> ikon:I read ;)  Any pointers to issues with boot loader not .. finding any kernels .. when installing 10.10 onto 3ware RAID card?
[17:45] <ikonia> jsw_: sorry what ?
[17:45] <ruan> lol
[17:45] <andreylosev> I have a question about themes: what is the window manager/gtk theme in this screenshot? http://static.arstechnica.net/ff4b11/adtrackoptout.png
[17:46] <NooBoontoo> drc, I was using Firefox, but I'll try wget
[17:46] <drc> NooBoontoo: wait
[17:46] <pratik_narain> actually I see the boot menu and whether I select try without installing or install ubuntu, I get only blank screen with a blinking cursor and no dvd drive activity.
[17:46] <ikonia> andreylosev: look into gnome-look.org
[17:46] <NooBoontoo> drc, yes?
[17:46] <pratik_narain> same dvd is bootable in my laptop
[17:46] <jsw_> I am trying to install 10.10 onto my machine and so far it's not going well.  I have a 3ware 9650SE RAID card.  It took me quite a while to figure out how to get this to work with ubuntu 6.04 when I first bought the machine
[17:46] <andreylosev> ikonia, but they won't be able to identify it from a screenshot
[17:47] <ikonia> andreylosev: neither can we,
[17:47] <mamece2> erusul lol the same problem, now is a graphics problem, the system is starting in low graphics mode
[17:47] <induz> ikonia, i installed kdenlive few days back now i dont see it on my application
[17:47] <ikonia> jsw_: ok, so lets step back a little, what mode do you have the 3ware in
[17:47] <jsw_> ikonia, so if you have a pointer to a troubleshooting guide I'll gladly RTFM :)
[17:47] <ikonia> induz: it won't be on your applications menu
[17:47] <andreylosev> oh well
[17:47] <ikonia> jsw_: easy on the language please.
[17:47] <ikonia> induz: your menu is "gnome" you've just installed a KDE application, that package won't have a gnome menu
[17:47] <itaylor57> induz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list I believe your problem is you have debian distros listed there
[17:48] <drc> NooBoontoo: in Firefox, in the Save As box, at the bottom there is a Web Page, Complete option...that must be showing to save the images and such
[17:48] <mamece2> erusul it just stays there, in the line called starting virtualvox kernel module,,, just there, and it does nothing
[17:48] <induz> i mean application...sound and video
[17:48] <jsw_> mode?  I don't know what you mean.  It presents /dev/sda and /dev/sdb to the OS, sda is 2GB (this was needed for 6.04 to work) and I tried to make a 400M /boot and a 1600M /.  sdb is 2TB and has /usr /var /home on it.
[17:48] <erUSUL> mamece2: :S the upgrade was without errors?
[17:48] <XLV> jsw_, so you dont use its raid capabilities at all....
[17:48] <drc> NooBoontoo: If it says Web Page, HTML only...no images will be grabbed
[17:48] <mamece2> i feel a lil bt dissapointed about ubuntu, recovery modes doesnt recover anything..
[17:49] <ikonia> jsw_: are you using the card as a jbod or in a hardware raid configuration
[17:49] <ikonia> mamece2: if gives you the capabilities to recover issues, it doesn't recover for you
[17:49] <jsw_> XLV:Oh, it's a four disk RAID 5, I used the carving to create the 2GB LUN
[17:49] <gimpy4685> I installed icecat but no add-ons are working. Every time it starts, it asks to install one, but never does. When I added another, it always claims I need to restart icecat for the changes to take affect, and they never do. What am I doing wrong?
[17:49] <ikonia> jsw_: ok, so where is the problem/error message ?
[17:49] <mamece2> erusul failed to fetch something ...binary-i386/packages.gz
[17:50] <cynical> mamece2: the point of recovery mode is not to fix stuff for you it is just to get you to a terminal to be able to fix your problems
[17:50] <induz> itaylor57, here:http://paste.ubuntu.com/569267/
[17:50] <jsw_> ikonia, doing a fresh 10.10 install, everything seems to go smoothly, except when I reboot it hangs at "grub is loading   please wait ...." or similar message.  This is right after the line indicating it ran GRUB 1.5.
[17:51] <ikonia> induz: why do you have karmic and lucid repos enabled
[17:51] <induz> ikonia, I upgraded from karmic from a CD
[17:51] <liminal> hello
[17:51] <jsw_> I don't honestly know if GRUB 1.5 is the bootloader that 10.10 installed, or it could even be the OLD 6.04 boot loader's boot sector but can't find the rest of itself
[17:51] <ikonia> jsw_: ok, do you have any other disks in your system other than the ones connected to the 3ware
[17:51] <ikonia> induz: so ?
[17:51] <feyd> how do I install gdm themes in maverick? I'm assuming there's just a directory
[17:51] <tuzlo> Has anyone had any success in connecting an Iphone to Ubuntu?
[17:51] <liminal> I need to view a website as if im using IE from within ubuntu
[17:51] <NooBoontoo> drc: Save this page as...> it gies me 4 options: The whole page,  Page just HTML, text files, and ALL files, I always choose the whole page, but when I try to browse them offline sometimes I can only see text and no pictures, I have to go to the folders of that html file to see them
[17:51] <liminal> I dont want to use win
[17:51] <ruan> jsw_: GRUB 1.5 is old
[17:51] <liminal> wine
[17:51] <induz> ikonia, i have doen nothing to my /etc/apt/source list
[17:51] <liminal> are there any other options?
[17:51] <cynical> jsw_: 10.10 uses grub2
[17:52] <ikonia> induz: that will create conflict
[17:52] <ruan> above^
[17:52] <jsw_> ikonia, yes, I also have an SSD that the installer sees as /dev/sdc, and a DVD-R drive I'm using to install
[17:52] <induz> but I have this kdenlive running and i editited few videos
[17:52] <drc> NooBoontoo: ok...let me try something
[17:52] <campee> does anyone have any suggestions on how i can get ubuntu 10.04 to boot off a 6TB RAID 5 disk?
[17:52] <ikonia> induz: I would not trust the stability of your system at this point
[17:52] <induz> ikonia, i get some errors when i update but i dont know what to keep on source files
[17:52] <ikonia> campee: you need to use gpt partition tables
[17:52] <jsw_> okay, so probably 10.10's boot loader is not even being read, the BIOS is running the old boot loader, and I did not even get the new one in the right place?
[17:52] <campee> ikonia: i don't think my computer can boot off GPT partition tables though :(
[17:53] <tuzlo> !iphone
[17:53] <induz> ikonia, is there any clean source file I can upgrade to
[17:53] <campee> ikonia: i keep getting a grub rescue menu after installation completes
[17:53] <ikonia> campee: you need to boot from a smaller disk then
[17:53] <campee> there's no workaround?
[17:53] <ikonia> induz: no, changing the sources won't matter at this point, I would do a clean install as I don't trust your system
[17:53] <nicobn>  /win 2
[17:53] <ikonia> jsw_: which device is the actual boot device ?
[17:53] <cynical> jsw_: yeah that's what it sounds like to me, imo try a new install and at the end before rebooting do a grub-install from a terminal
[17:53] <drc> NooBoontoo: what version of Firefox?
[17:54] <NooBoontoo> drc I even try WebHttrack Website Copier, but it only happens with some pages, I was copying the Luxrender.net wiki page butu did not worked
[17:54] <jsw_> ikonia:the 3ware card's BIOS boots .. something .. I honestly couldn't figure out which partition's boot sector it is reading
[17:54] <ruan> you could do a grub reinstall though
[17:54] <cynical> jsw_: or chroot from a livecd
[17:54] <cynical> jsw_: and do it there
[17:54] <induz> ikonia, what you mean by 'Trust'...is it going to disappear like my kdenlive
[17:54] <ikonia> jsw_: what about the motherboards bios, what does it say is the boot device
[17:54] <NooBoontoo> drc Mozilla Firefox 3.6.13
[17:54] <induz> I dont know how to get back to kdenlive as i have master edit on that
[17:54] <jsw_> ikonia:It recognizes the RAID controller and lets me choose it in the boot priority list, which I have done
[17:55] <ikonia> induz: your system has mixed repos, I would class your system as unstable
[17:55] <ikonia> jsw_: do a test, try to boot of the SSD, do you get the grub error then /
[17:55] <induz> how can i correct repos?
[17:55] <ikonia> induz: you can't
[17:55] <jsw_> I suppose I'd need to install grub onto the SSD but I suppose I can do that
[17:55] <patriot> hey my laptops headphone jack is not detected...1 can any 1 help
[17:55] <induz> I dont have a copy of lucid  as i upgraded it from karmic
[17:55] <chrislu5tic> .
[17:55] <jsw_> What does the "stage 1.5 loading" (or similar) message mean GRUB is doing, looking in a filesystem for the rest of its program?
[17:56] <ikonia> jsw_: not yet, run the test, lets work this out
[17:56] <XLV> jsw_, if its a raid5 array, it probably writes the mbr to all hdds ( so if you lose one hdd and if it wrote mbr to only one hdd and that was the hdd that was dead ) you wouldnt be able to boot from the raid array.. so i guess it writes mbr to all hdds of the array
[17:56] <induz> I had a big deal of problem to get my Dell usn wireless working
[17:56] <ikonia> jsw_: its looking for the state files to start the boot
[17:56] <ikonia> induz: that doesn't change what I've said
[17:56] <jsw_> ikonia, so if in fact it is booting the "old grub," those files are no longer there since I formatted /dev/sda1 (/boot) right?
[17:57] <ikonia> jsw_: that's why it's not working then
[17:57] <cynical> jsw_: yes, which is why you should reinstall grub to the mbr
[17:57] <induz> ikonia, why there are 2 files on /etc/apt source [1] source.list [2] source.list.save
[17:57] <ruan> cant remember the command, but it was something like sudo apt-get reinstall-grub2
[17:57] <ikonia> induz: I don't know
[17:57] <drc> NooBoontoo: and it only happens with <some> website pages (like the manual you referenced earlier)?
[17:57] <jsw_> cynical:I tried to do that the first time, but I may have made a mistake.  We'll see what happens this install :)
[17:58] <patriot> my laptops headphone jack is not detected...please help  me out
[17:58] <ikonia> ruan: it's nothing like that
[17:58] <ikonia> !grub > jsw_
[17:58] <ikonia> !grub2 > jsw_
[17:58] <ikonia> jsw_: check out the two links ubottu just sent you
[17:58] <ruan> lol
[17:58] <cynical> jsw_: ok, report back what happens :)
[17:58] <ruan> not sure if it sent the second one
[17:58] <NooBoontoo> drc, no, with the Luxrender Wiki pages
[17:58] <ikonia> ruan: it did
[17:58] <ruan> ah ok
[17:58] <induz> if I upgrade to 10.10, do i have to all the installed programme again??
[17:58] <drc> NooBoontoo: URL?
[17:58] <mamece2> erusul is gone, no one can help ,e
[17:58] <jsw_> I'll read through that HOWTO while it finishes installing agai
[17:59] <ruan> induz: i doubt it
[17:59] <NooBoontoo> drc I am online rigth now, so I dont know how the vodoo manual is gonna work offline
[17:59] <esnip> does any one know how to mount a XENIX disk on linux?
[17:59] <ruan> induz: upgrading doesn't delete any programs
[17:59] <ikonia> induz: upgrading will not make you system stable
[17:59] <induz> can i run kdenlive on Lucid again Gnome
[17:59] <NooBoontoo> drc http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/Main_Page
[17:59] <ikonia> induz: you'll need to do a clean install to be sure
[17:59] <tuzlo> When plugging my Iphone into my Ubuntu machine I get the following error on the computer, DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) Any ideas on what is going on?
[17:59] <ruan> .noreply
[18:00] <ikonia> induz: it's better to use KDE application in a KDE environment, but it is possible to use them under gnome
[18:00] <induz> how can i run KDE  beside Gnome?
[18:00] <ikonia> induz: you install the KDE desktop environment, and then select which one you want to use BEFORE you login
[18:01] <ikonia> induz: however I would advise you to do a clean install to get you system to a known "ok" state
[18:01] <patriot> any 1 please help me out... audio jack is not working in ubuntu
[18:01] <aroman> how can I change the GDM theme in Maverick via CLI?
[18:01] <jason> hi
[18:02] <induz> ikonia, thanks for suggestions...i have to get a DVD burner or USB stick to get my data off this system
[18:02] <ikonia> ok
[18:02] <ikonia> aroman: gdm themes are locked in ubuntu at the moment
[18:02] <ikonia> !gdm | aroman
[18:02] <needlez> hey how can i change it so that I dont get this message when I click a link from here. Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/chromium-browser" (No such file or directory)
[18:02] <aroman> ikonia: you can change them with gdm2setup, I just want to know how to change them without a graphical option
[18:02] <tuzlo> !libimobiledevice
[18:02] <needlez> I have uninstalled chromium and wish to firefox instead
[18:02] <patriot> any 1 please help me out... audio jack is not working in ubuntu
[18:03] <ikonia> needlez: you've deleted a file it needs, re-install chromium
[18:03] <ruan> needlez: set firefox as default browser
[18:03] <ikonia> aroman: can't really as you need a graphical environment to manipulate the gnome "registery"
[18:03] <ruan> needlez: firefox > preferences > advanced > check if firefox is default browser(check now)
[18:03] <JetBoyJetGirl> what's the best way to paste code from a webpage into vim?
[18:03] <needlez> ikonia: I dont wanna use chromium, i wish to have it set firefox, firefox is default browser but it still isnt recognizing it in here
[18:03] <aroman> ikonia: "graphical environment"? You mean flip some gconf switches?
[18:03] <drc> NooBoontoo: Oh...you download the webpage, go offline, open the webpage you downloaded in the browser and try to clink on a link on webpage?
[18:03] <dury> hi there channel :)
[18:04] <ikonia> aroman: pretty much, point it at the right files etc, tools like gconf2
[18:04] <JetBoyJetGirl> i'm using the middle mouse button but somehow its not pasting what I've highlighted
[18:04] <aroman> ikonia: right, then i can do it via CLI
[18:04] <ikonia> aroman: great
[18:04] <ruan> ctrl c ctrl v is what i use
[18:04] <aroman> ikonia: any idea where those keys are?
[18:04] <ikonia> aroman: nope,
[18:04] <Starminn> ruan: +1
[18:04] <cynical> tuzlo: most likely libimobiledevice is outdated on your system
[18:04] <esnip> I need to extract some data from an Xenix disk, anyone knows how to mount such a disk?
[18:05] <cynical> tuzlo: try adding this ppa and then apt-get updating/upgrading to solve the issue, https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa
[18:05] <NooBoontoo> drc I do not know what you mean by "clink"
[18:05] <dury> what are the advantages of linux towards win?
[18:05] <NooBoontoo> drc, I just cant see the pictures offline
[18:05] <ruan> dury: safety is one of the main advantages
[18:05] <cynical> dury: less security issues, less memory usage, better performance, lots of free software
[18:05] <NooBoontoo> drc, some of them I can see them, some are missing
[18:06] <Starminn> dury: It entirely depends on what you're doing. This should go in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[18:06] <NooBoontoo> drc, and most pages are none at all
[18:06] <makaveli0129> I just installed a dvr card and i need to know how to find the chipset in order for bttv does anyone know how to do this with lspci or whatever i don't remember the comman
[18:06] <makaveli0129> d
[18:06] <drc> NooBoontoo: I meant "click"
[18:06] <esnip> dury: it's free
[18:06] <dury> sorry then
[18:06] <ikonia> makaveli0129: look on the vendors website
[18:06] <Abinadi> lmao...sleep is for the weak.  Good morning everyone.
[18:06] <aroman> ikonia: found it! /apps/gdm/simple-greeter. thanks for your help! :)
[18:06] <dury> what about drivers
[18:06] <makaveli0129> ikonia: it's a lorex i can't find it no where??
[18:06] <ikonia> aroman: there are other flags to flip though
[18:07] <NooBoontoo> drc, I know I can't go to a link offline, I just can't see the pictures
[18:07] <aroman> ikonia: what do you mean?
[18:07] <mamece2> when i try sudo apt-get update theres a error, failed to fetch http://ppa... /binary-i386/packages.gz
[18:07] <drc> NooBoontoo:   ok, now I understand
[18:07] <ruan> dury: ubuntu finds the correct drivers
[18:07] <ikonia> aroman: I don't believe all the data is in that one part, I thought (could be wrong) there are 2 / 3 more
[18:07] <ruan> dury: i didnt even have to insert my driver disc compared to windows..
[18:07] <cynical> dury: lots of hardware is supported out of the box by the linux kernel
[18:07] <dury> what about old computers
[18:07] <makaveli0129>  ikonia: its a lorex qlr460 4 channel but can't find the chipset anywhere...
[18:08] <ikonia> mamece2: that PPA is dead
[18:08] <cynical> dury: you can check here for info on specific hardware, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[18:08] <Starminn> dury: You mean driver support between Windows/Linux? I hear a lot less problems with Linux driver detection than the hours spent searching for drivers for Windows. Ubuntu 10.10 picked up every single thing on my system first time, no configuring anything.
[18:08] <needlez> dury: ubuntu has a one fits all kinda solution for drivers, it finds the hardware out of box
[18:08] <mamece2> ikonia, how can i upadte correctly? i have sensord problems
[18:08] <ikonia> mamece2: unsensor it then, lets see what PPA is failing
[18:08] <patriot> any 1 please help me out... audio jack is not working in ubuntu
[18:09] <aroman> ikonia: interesting. well, as it so happens all I need to do is change the logo icon name and some banner text
[18:09] <cynical> dury: Linux is great on old computers, although if the specs are really low I would recommend a distro other than ubuntu
[18:09] <makaveli0129> patriot:  has your sound ever worked and is the driver installed?
[18:09] <needlez> patriot: do you have sound thru your regular speakers??
[18:09] <patriot> please reply me
[18:10] <Starminn> cynical, dury: Not necessarily. There's Xubuntu or Lubuntu which is even lighter.
[18:10] <cynical> starminn: those are other distros
[18:10] <patriot> yes @needlez
[18:10] <ruan> dury: another thing of note is that linux causes no fragmentation on hard drives
[18:10] <cynical> ruan: it can cause fragmentation but it is generally minimal
[18:11] <ruan> cynical: yeah
[18:11] <Starminn> cynical: It was my understanding those would be called "derivatives/variations"? *shrug* If not I guess I heard wrong.
[18:11] <dury> what about other distros comparing ubuntu
[18:11] <trackstar> Hi all. I just bought an LCD tv and hooked it up to my pc via the onboard hdmi port. When I boot my PC up, it displays fine until I get to grub then the display cuts out. I can't seem to get ubuntu to recognize the TV. any tips please?
[18:11] <Starminn> dury: Try 'em out and see. :)
[18:12] <patriot> needlez: my laptop speakers are wrkin fine but audio jack is problem
[18:12] <cynical> Starminn: No you are absolutely correct, but they can be both variations/derivatives and still be separate distributions
[18:12] <mamece2> i cant start GDM, it doesnt even start at LOW graphics mode
[18:12] <needlez> patriot: run lscpci | grep -i audio for me and post output
[18:12] <sirsargento> Does anybody have an idea why in the 'computer' folder when i goto the properties of my dvd drive and filesystem it has no information and says the location is computer:/// ?
[18:12] <ruan> is ubuntu the 'main' distro?
[18:12] <dury> fedora, slackware,  gentoo
[18:12] <Starminn> dury: The other main distros are Fedora, OpenSUSE, Mandriva, and Debian (sorry if I've missed one)
[18:12] <cynical> ruan: yeah
[18:12] <dury> lots of distros
[18:12] <tuzlo> cynical theres about 10 files there, do I only need libimobiledevice?
[18:12] <ruan> most downloads, etc?
[18:13] <mkanyicy> ruan, what do you mean by 'main'?
[18:13] <needlez> ruan: ubuntu is based off of debian
[18:13] <cynical> ruan: http://www.distrowatch.org
[18:13] <mkanyicy> ruan, check distrowatch
[18:13] <Starminn> dury: Down a bit on the right side: http://distrowatch.com/
[18:13] <ruan> ah ok
[18:13] <makaveli0129> ow to find the chipset in order for bttv
[18:13] <makaveli0129> *how
[18:14] <patriot> needlez: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[18:14] <needlez> makaveli0129: it would be in lspci if pci , if usb lsusb.
[18:14] <cynical> tuzlo: If you add the repo and do an upgrade it will only change the packages that you have in common with the repo, which judging by the files there will only be ipod/iphone related stuff
[18:14] <itaylor57> dury: also camp out in those other distros help rooms and compare the support available
[18:14] <makaveli0129> thank you needles
[18:14] <tuzlo> Im not sure how to add the re[pository
[18:15] <needlez> patriot: that looks like it only showing one audio controller, so either it doesn't work because no drivers are developed or installed for it, or it could be broken. I'd say just no drivers tho
[18:15] <patriot> needlez: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[18:15] <cynical> tuzlo: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa
[18:15] <drc> NooBoontoo: Sorry to put you thru all that, but I can't reproduce the problem, no matter what I do it works for me and I cant think of what might be causing the problem.  Have you looked at the page code to see where the page is thinking the images might be?
[18:15] <cynical> tuzlo: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:15] <OSAMA> hi
[18:15] <jeaton> hi
[18:15] <OSAMA> oh
[18:15] <OSAMA> how are you
[18:15] <patriot> needlez: so which package should i install
[18:15] <OSAMA> ?
[18:16] <cynical> tuzlo: you can also use sudo ppa-purge in the future to remove the repo, or just do it from the graphical interface if you no longer need it later (like when upgrading to the next version of ubuntu for example)
[18:16] <NooBoontoo> drc, I dont know about that, I just know that the pictures are in a folder
[18:16] <lasko> I have folder in a fat32 partition which I want to have writing permission, since an application I'm running inside of it is complaining about it .... I tried chown myuser folder and then tried to fiddle with the permission options in nautilus but it insists roots is the owner and it wont let me change permission because as soon as I change them they revert .... what to do?
[18:16] <needlez> patriot what is the exact make and model of your laptop?? post it in the pm i sent you
[18:16] <tuzlo> cynical, kk, thx, and after the upgrade, is a reboot required?
[18:16] <OSAMA> any body here Arab
[18:17] <OSAMA> ?
[18:17] <lasko> I have folder in a fat32 partition which I want to have writing permission, since an application I'm running inside of it is complaining about it .... I tried chown myuser folder and then tried to fiddle with the permission options in nautilus but it insists roots is the owner and it wont let me change permission because as soon as I change them they revert .... what to do?
[18:17] <cynical> tuzlo: yeah, I'm not sure which component to restart specifically so rebooting is the easiest way to take care of it :)
[18:17] <mkanyicy> !arab | OSAMA
[18:17] <tuzlo> cynical, ok thanks. I will be back in a few
[18:17] <ruan> lasko: you could run the application as sudo
[18:17] <lasko> ruan: it's a wine app though
[18:17] <ruan> lasko: oh
[18:17] <mkanyicy> lasko, mount it properly or else use sudo
[18:18] <NooBoontoo> DRC bUT i GUESS THIS IN NORMAL, EH?
[18:18] <NooBoontoo> drc https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9041618/HTML.png
[18:18] <ruan> broken capslock?
[18:18] <jsw_> alright, I have completed the installation again, and am at the "Installation is complete. You need to restart..." dialog box.  I have read through the GrubHowto but I don't understand if there is a way to check and see which boot sector(s) have grub installed and which don't (or may have an older version)
[18:18] <NooBoontoo> :P
[18:19] <dury> friendly  linux laptops
[18:19] <habeouscorpus> NooBoontoo: the picture looks normal to me. You're using edubuntu?
[18:19] <mamece2> help i cannot start GUI, ppa is not working
[18:19] <alienkid10> if I install packages in a live session are they carried over when I install from that same live season? What about stuff I uninstall will that not get installed?
[18:20] <habeouscorpus> mamece2: What can you not start?
[18:20] <NooBoontoo> habeouscorpus, Ubuntu 10.10 64 bits, I just want to know if it is normal. Sometimes the webpage have pictures sometimes they dont. They definitly have online, but offline, there is where I see the problems
[18:21] <mamece2> habeoscorpus, normally i just turn on and its ubuntu desktop there, now i cant do that. i just got CLI
[18:21] <alienkid10> I'm using 10.10
[18:21] <habeouscorpus> mamece2: login, then type "starx" no quotes
[18:21] <habeouscorpus> *startx
[18:21] <mkanyicy> alienkid10, they are not carried over
[18:21] <mamece2> habeoscorpus i tryed, not workin, display an error
[18:21] <mkanyicy> alienkid10, stuff you have removed will not be removed on the permanent install
[18:21] <jsw_> alright, I must have made a mistake last time.  ubuntu booted up.  :)
[18:22] <cynical> lasko: sudo chown -R 'username' 'foldername' and then sudo chmod u+w 'foldername'
[18:22] <alienkid10> Mkaysi: that's what I thought was reading said they would be at least installed in perm if installed in live.
[18:22] <cynical> jsw_: good to hear :D
[18:22] <mamece2> habeoscorpus failed to activate core devices, couidlnt compile keymap,. etc
[18:22] <habeouscorpus> NooBoontoo: Yeah, that's how webpages get saved. Also, certain types of dynamic contet (java, flash) don't get saved
[18:22] <mkanyicy> lasko, cynical, that does not work on fat32
[18:23] <cynical> mkanyicy: oh wasn't paying attention, eww fat32
[18:23] <alienkid10> Mkaysi: I could install them then copy the .debs to the new apt cache tho right? Then I wouldn't have to redownload?
[18:23] <habeouscorpus> mamece2: oh, yikes. Let me google those errors...
[18:23] <mkanyicy> !tab | alienkid10
[18:23] <mamece2> habeoscorpus ive tryed start gdm and theres low graphics mode, it doesnt start
[18:24] <lasko> mkanyicy:  cynical ah wait it's actually ntfs
[18:24] <Mkaysi> alienkid10: ?
[18:24] <K|nG> The file '/media/Conter MegaNet/Counter-Strike 1.6 Final Release!.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[18:24] <K|nG> I had Installed the Wine But Cant Open it :S
[18:24] <mkanyicy> alienkid10, why dont you install permanent system and install packages thereafter?
[18:24] <cynical> lasko: still won't work, those commands are for linux file systems unfortunately
[18:24] <mkanyicy> alienkid10, the way you are proposing is not ideal solution
[18:24] <needlez> K|nG: you need to chmod 777 the file to run it
[18:25] <alienkid10> mkanyicy: was just wondering if I could have it download package files while it's installing
[18:25] <mamece2> help ibr got ubuntu 10.09 and i cant get to GUI just CLI
[18:25] <mkanyicy> lasko, mount it properly so that it gives you permissions
[18:25] <ZykoticK9> K|nG, if it's on a cd, easiest to just run from command line "wine /path/to/file.exe:
[18:25] <mamece2> help ive got ubuntu 10.09 and i cant get to GUI just CLI
[18:25] <tuzlo> cynical thank you very much
[18:25] <mkanyicy> alienkid10, live cd session?
[18:25] <sss> Will I lose any data if I made my linux partition larger in either side using GParted?
[18:25] <cynical> tuzlo: np mate, glad it worked :)
[18:25] <tuzlo> now I have to find some software for the iphone to browse my shares
[18:25] <needlez> K|nG: sudo chmod 777 Counter-Strike 1.6 Final Release!.exe
[18:25] <habeouscorpus> mamece2: try rebooting into recovery mode. Shut down your computer, then right after the boot splash dissapears, hold down shift. from the menu that appears, slect the recovery mode option
[18:26] <mkanyicy> alienkid10, are you about to install a new distro?
[18:26] <needlez> mamece2: have you tried startx from recovery??
[18:26] <alienkid10> mkanyicy: yeah like I'm installing then I cna open synaptic in live and just download some package then once it's done installing move the packages to the perm aptcache. No reinstalling ubuntu I screwed something up and it won't boot anymore
[18:26] <WeThePeople> i am using chrome browser, how do i set up the browser to show more options. like firefox deos
[18:26] <drc> NooBoontoo: sorry, every things looks fine (the .html and the folders have the same name)...It's beyond my skill levels, I have no idea why it's not working for you...again sorry :(
[18:26] <delinquentme> hey all .. ive managed to lose my nice little wireless network icon in the top right bar of my desktop... anyone know how to get this back?
[18:27] <habeouscorpus> needlez: lol hivemind
[18:27] <cynical> sss: you shouldn't lose anything unless the operation fails
[18:27] <habeouscorpus> delinquentme: remove the notification area then put it back on
[18:27] <cynical> sss: if you are resizing a large partition it could take a while though
[18:27] <NooBoontoo> Anyway...
[18:27] <K|nG> needlez: that`s doesnt works But that ZykoticK9 Thank you that`s works fine :p
[18:27] <NooBoontoo> let's change the subject
[18:27] <drc> NooBoontoo: try wget like was suggested (at least until you figure out the problem)
[18:27] <sss> cynical, ok thanks
[18:27] <mamece2> needlez ok its workin, now should i restart and thats all? i dont beliebe it
[18:28] <needlez> delinquentme: right click panel add to panel, indicator applet
[18:28] <rde_> To tu też mozna pogadać?
[18:28] <NooBoontoo> I have a Netbook, and I want to run something from a USBlive, but When i try to go to my BIOS settings, Oh no!! It ask me for I password I forgot!!!
[18:28] <delinquentme> habeouscorpus, right click > add to panel ... then what app name
[18:29] <habeouscorpus> NooBoontoo: There's a way around that... take out the CMOS battery :)
[18:29] <cynical> mamece2: try running startx from the console and report back the error you see at the end
[18:29] <needlez> mamece2: brb i have to get off for a sec
[18:29] <delinquentme> woot!
[18:29] <habeouscorpus> delinquentme: indicator applet
[18:29] <NooBoontoo> Is there a way to recover my password,? I dont want to mess with the BIOS jumper and delete everything, the only Ubuntu stable is this one, a 32 bit Ubuntu 10.10, not a single crash, well, except when using UNITY.
[18:30] <lasko> mkaay: can you help with the fstab line, I suck at permissions :/  defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0   what should I change?
[18:30] <habeouscorpus> NooBoontoo: http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.html
[18:31] <mamece2> cynical the screen flashes a lot and then there s messae, ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[18:31] <lasko> mkanyicy: : can you help with the fstab line, I suck at permissions :/  defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0   what should I change?
[18:31] <lasko> mkaay: sorry
[18:31] <cynical> mamece2: what graphics card is in your computer?
[18:31] <mamece2> cynical then theres some options, run ubuntu in low graph do the same, flashes and again the options
[18:31] <feyd> where do I install GDM themes in maverick?
[18:32] <feyd> is there a directory to throw them in?
[18:32] <mamece2> cynical my laptop is a lenovo N500 standard graph card
[18:32] <jsw_> Alright, ubuntu has booted itself correctly.  I did notice an error message before the kernel loaded.  It was only there briefly and had some disk geometry and "C/H/S" there so I am guessing
[18:32] <jsw_> .. that something is still a bit confused with my GRUB but as long as it keeps booting I suppose I will leave it alone?
[18:32] <coz_> mamece2,   what is the "standard grahics"  card in that system
[18:33] <coz_> mamece2,  are you on  linux now ?
[18:33] <uRock> jsw_, without quiet splash you will always see errors
[18:33] <mamece2> cynical "stand by one minute while the display restarst"
[18:33] <jsw_> from grub?
[18:33] <habeouscorpus> mamece2: just hit okay.
[18:33] <mamece2> coz_ is some kind of limbo, im not into GUI not into CLI
[18:33] <coz_> mamece2,  ok
[18:33] <mamece2> i hit ok and then theres a black screen
[18:33] <coz_> sorry just cam in ,,,didnt mean to distrupt the help in progress,,, I step back :)
[18:33] <mamece2> startin virtual box kernel module, it is there frozen
[18:34] <jsw_> I am familiar with the tons of messages emitted by the kernel when it is booting.  This message came before that :)
[18:34] <joth> I just tried to upgrade the kernel on Maverick, and now my laptop won't boot up; it says there's a problem with /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 - can anyone help please?
[18:35] <mamece2> if i hit crtl+alt+F1 i can get to CLI, THATS ALL, no GUI for me
[18:35] <co_cr_pcr> you must change your laptop,,
[18:35] <co_cr_pcr> ^^
[18:35] <ikonia> mamece2: you can just disable gdm if you don't want X to launch
[18:35] <coz_> mamece2,  ok in the cli   type    lspci | grep -i vga
[18:36] <cynical> mamece2: install the nvidia drivers using studo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[18:36] <cynical> maece2: then sudo modprobe nvidia and sudo nvidia-xconfig to set it up
[18:36] <coz_> ooo  I think nvidia_current might be more appropriate  but the actual card version  would be in order ...yes?
[18:36] <mamece2> coz_ displays inter corporation mobile 4 series chipset integrated controller rev 7
[18:36] <cynical> maece2: after that you should be able to startx without issues
[18:37] <coz_> mamece2,  mm it doesnt designate  nvidia...intel  or ati in the readout?
[18:37] <mamece2> coz_ no
[18:37] <coz_> o0
[18:37] <cynical> coz_: no his laptop is a lenovo n500, it has the nvidia geforce 9300M adapter
[18:37] <codemagician> ive just installed a new SATA drive and formatted it.  When I bootup its added into /media/93ce3b44-d0d4-4c6a-b510-4fcea55f2035 which is really ugly?
[18:37] <mamece2> coz_ so i shoudl not install nvidia
[18:38] <codemagician> is there something I should do to mount it neatly?
[18:38] <coz_> cynical,   ok then most likely the nvidia_current driver would be more appropriate
[18:38] <cynical> coz_: haha sure
[18:38] <mkanyicy> lasko, managed to solve your prob?
[18:39] <exutux> cynical: you can assigne a label
[18:39] <exutux> ops codemagician ^
[18:39] <cynical> mamece2: no you should, just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-current to get the latest driver (which is 185)
[18:39] <mamece2> cynical its dl it
[18:40] <mamece2> cynical how can i start with a problem and get into several more?
[18:40] <lasko> mkanyicy: I'm trying to find out what to put in the fstab line to give write read permission to my user  here's how it is now defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0
[18:40] <cynical> maece2: then sudo modprobe nvidia and sudo nvidia-xconfig to set it up like I said earlier
[18:40] <Cameron_> codemagician: you could assign a label, but just a heads up, you might find in the future that it's nice to have a drive named by UUID rather than a name that could be the same as any other disk
[18:40] <coz_> I believe the nvidia-current is  in the 200's now  for me it is  260.19.29
[18:40] <Jelou> Hi all! I have an ati radeon 9200 and recordmydesktop uses a lot of CPU, i've read that this can be a problem with the drivers, what drivers should i install?
[18:40] <cynical> mamece2: lol oh it is quite common in software problems unfortunately
[18:41] <codemagician> Cameron_,  its showing up as HPFS/NTFS when I do fdisk -l
[18:41] <cynical> coz_: nvidia-glx-185 corresponds to the 260.19.06 driver
[18:41] <codemagician> Cameron_,  but I just formatted it with mkfs.ext4
[18:41] <cynical> coz_: which is the latest in the official repos
[18:42] <coz_> cynical,  ok   mm sounds a bit confusing...but then I just woke up ,,, again  I step back
[18:42] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks; I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Jelou: the driver you need is part of a default install
[18:42] <Cameron_> codemagician: do you think you could've made two different partitions on accident?
[18:42] <exutux> codemagician: you need umount it, and remount
[18:42] <mkanyicy> lasko, you can make it to be 'defaults,umask=0027,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0'
[18:42] <cynical> coz_: haha yeah thats just package naming, I can never tell what version of catalyst I have use official packages, it is really retarded
[18:42] <mkanyicy> lasko, instead of fmask
[18:42] <cynical> cynical: when using official packages*
[18:42] <exiter> How would on check what nVidia drivers he is using?
[18:42] <ThinkT510> lasko: what filesystem is it?
[18:43] <codemagician> exutux, how do I mount it?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: what video chip do you use?
[18:43] <lasko> ThinkT510: ntfs
[18:43] <eXpLoD> how can i make my bios frame buffer have a higher resolution?I mean it really looks dull and i want it to look smooth and nice like the CLI at tty1 on ubuntu
[18:43] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: It's an inherited computer. How do I find out?
[18:43] <XLV> eXpLoD, get a new mb with efi bios
[18:43] <codemagician> exutux, Cameron_  current it shows this /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:43] <ThinkT510> lasko: /dev/sda5	/mnt/sda5	ntfs-3g	rw,uid=1000	0	0
[18:44] <codemagician> exutux, Cameron_ even when its unmounted
[18:44] <ThinkT510> lasko: that's obviously assuming your partition is sda5
[18:44] <mamece2> cynical ok its done the nvidia stuff
[18:44] <exutux> codemagician: have you formatted it???
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> exiter: sudo lshw -C display     will tell you
[18:44] <cynical> exiter: nvidia-settings will graphically tell you
[18:44] <exutux> codemagician: it's an internal hd or an external?
[18:44] <exiter> Thank You ActionParsnip!
[18:44] <cynical> maece2: then sudo modprobe nvidia and sudo nvidia-xconfig to set it up like I said earlier
[18:45] <ThinkT510> lasko: the uid is usually 1000 if your the first user for the system
[18:45] <cynical> mamece2: then sudo modprobe nvidia and sudo nvidia-xconfig to set it up like I said earlier
[18:45] <codemagician> exutux, i used to have it inside a USB case and I put it inside the PC on the SATA cable to the motherboard
[18:45] <needlez> Yerushalmi: from terminal lspci | grep -i vga then post output
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sudo lshw -C display     will tell you
[18:45] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Sec, then
[18:45] <mamece2> cynical i tryed sudo modprobe nvidia and it display:FATAL:module nvidia not found
[18:46] <codemagician> exutux, im running mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1      again
[18:46] <needlez> mamece2: may have to be root to do it
[18:46] <codemagician> exutux, what should I do after the format completes?
[18:47] <mamece2> i did sudo modprobe nvidia
[18:47] <marie-sophie> hello, I've installed ubuntu on my laptop, it had windows before with RAID0 managed by intel, but now I can mount the windows partition and I don't see Windows in grub menu, what can I do please ?
[18:47] <exutux> codemagician: i use alway fdisk or cfdisk before format my hd
[18:47] <codemagician> exutux, i did a fdisk -l and its shows it as HPFS/NTFS
[18:47] <exutux> codemagician: for delete all partition
[18:47] <codemagician> exutux, aha. ok
[18:47] <lasko> mkanyicy: ThinkT510 I tried both of your solutions and tested after doing sudo mount -a yet the app keeps complaining about permissions :/
[18:47] <exutux> codemagician: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[18:48] <exutux> codemagician: delete and create a new linux partition
[18:48] <mkanyicy> lasko, ThinkT510 both those methods should work
[18:48] <Cameron_> codemagician: are you using a GUI?
[18:48] <tuzlo> does anyone know how to get movies/videos from a shared drive on ubuntu to an Iphone which is syncing correctly
[18:48] <codemagician> Cameron_,  command line
[18:48] <mkanyicy> lasko, first umount your ntfs partition
[18:48] <exutux> codemagician: and after use mkfs.ext4 assignig a label too
[18:48] <besogon> people I unthinkable have started vi and have typed a command ":help". Now I don't know how to close that. (Of course I can close gnome-terminal but may be perchance you know better way
[18:48] <mamece2> cynical now ubuntu is runnin low graphic mode, update your nvidia config?
[18:49] <era878> Why cant I change the monitor resolution for my thinkpadx40?
[18:49] <Senjai|emacs|> Hey guys, I went into disk manage, and found a mystery partition on /dev/sda4, think I can delete it? Not sure what a partition for logical drives is.. http://imagebin.org/138771
[18:49] <needlez> mamece2: drop sudo su then modprobe nvidia and see if you can do it
[18:49] <ThinkT510> lasko: in a terminal type id
[18:49] <codemagician> exutux, should I choose primary or logical when I create a new partition?
[18:49] <ThinkT510> lasko: can you see your uid there?
[18:49] <lasko> ThinkT510: yep im 1000
[18:49] <codemagician> exutux, its a 2nd drive
[18:49] <exutux> codemagician: primary
[18:49] <|Marco|> is there a vserver kernel for ubuntu server 10.10 ?
[18:50] <drc> Senjai: A dell computer?
[18:50] <Senjai> drc, yes
[18:50] <cynical> mamece2: oh yeah forgot, sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[18:50] <|Marco|> as far as I can see, vserver.org only has up to "Lucid"
[18:50] <mongy> Senjai, its your extended partition, leave it alone :)
[18:50] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I've never used UNE2D and I'm havin g a bit of a problem. Any window I open (Firefox, Chatzilla, terminal) takes up only two-thirds of the screen, I can't change its size, nor can I alt-tab between them.
[18:50] <codemagician> exutux, its now showing a single partition primary non-bootable
[18:50] <Senjai> mongy, what's it for?
[18:50] <ThinkT510> lasko: sorry if i'm sounding patronising, but have you made the directory you're trying to mount it to?
[18:51] <codemagician> exutux, FS Type = Linux
[18:51] <mongy> Senjai, holding logical partitions
[18:51] <Hotmedal> How to: select text in applications, no matter where (as long as it's not an image of course)
[18:51] <cynical> mamece2: and also sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-kernel-source
[18:51] <Senjai> mongy, which means? lol
[18:51] <mamece2> cynical the same when i hit "start gdm"
[18:51] <codemagician> exutux, should I run mkfs.ext4 again?
[18:51] <mongy> Senjai, in your case, an ext4 partition and your swap
[18:51] <drc> Senjai: OK...The DellUntility partition is usually utilities for diagnosing hardware problems...I always leave that one alone
[18:51] <exutux> codemagician: yeah with -L for give a LABEL
[18:52] <Yerushalmi> Anybody know the keyboard commands for un-full-screening programs in Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D?
[18:52] <lasko> ThinkT510: the partitions mounts fine, it's a directory inside of it that complains about writing permission
[18:52] <mamece2> cynical done, then wat
[18:52] <Senjai> drc, and the other one is recovery, OS is my windows partition,
[18:52] <codemagician> exutux, what it be better to keep this label lowercase
[18:52] <drc> Senjai: right
[18:52] <Senjai> drc ext4 is my ubuntu, which i Will be cutting into windows for
[18:52] <mkanyicy> lasko, can you do a 'ls -lhd dirname' ?
[18:52] <Senjai> drc, so the extended partition is for the windows SWAP?
[18:52] <ThinkT510> lasko: can you check if you have ntfs-3g installed via synaptic?
[18:53] <exutux> codemagician: -L name_that_you_want
[18:53] <tuzlo> does anyone know how to get movies/videos from a shared drive on ubuntu to an Iphone?
[18:53] <mkanyicy> ThinkT510, that should be available by default now
[18:53] <mamece2> cynical the same bs again..
[18:53] <drc> Senjai: if you are going to dual boot, I'd leave the DelUtility and Recovery alone and use space from the OS partition
[18:53] <codemagician> exutux, its formatting
[18:53] <mamece2> cynical isnt there any command to repair the whole OS?
[18:53] <cynical> mamece2: and nvidia-current-modaliases
[18:53] <chrislu5tic> hi there
[18:53] <codemagician> exutux, will it automatically mount when I boot my machine?
[18:54] <mkanyicy> lasko, can you 'sudo umount' your ntfs partition and then do a 'sudo mount -a' afterwards?
[18:54] <cynical> mamece2: I use ati, wasn't aware of how many nvidia driver files there were :\
[18:54] <Senjai> drc, what about the extended partition? I wasn't going to touch the other ones, even after I get rid of Windows, those need to be there incase i reinstall windows
[18:54] <Yerushalmi> Anybody know a keyboard command for un-full-screening programs?
[18:54] <exutux> codemagician: i give label always uppercase
[18:54] <blackdeagle> Yerushalmi: try F11
[18:54] <blackdeagle> Yerushalmi: If you mean switching from Fullscreen back to "not-fullscreen" :D
[18:54] <exutux> codemagician: yes
[18:55] <codemagician> exutux, any particular reason?  is that a standard convention?
[18:55] <drc> Senjai: are you going to dual boot or use only ubuntu on this machine
[18:55] <mongy> Senjai, you have 3 (possibly primary) partitions already, so you have to have extended space for logical partitions...
[18:55] <Senjai> dual boot for now
[18:55] <cynical> mamece2: after you finish installing that try modprobing the nvidia module again
[18:55] <chrislu5tic> can someone help me?/ I have enabled "play deb" and im trying to install "enemy territory" but it says "there is no software packages called "enemy territor" in your current software resources"
[18:55] <mamece2> cynical i cant do the modaliases
[18:55] <Senjai> mongy, I'm sorry, I'm ignorant, I have no idea why I do.
[18:55] <cynical> mamece2: what error message are you getting?
[18:55] <mongy> Senjai, the ubuntu installer will most likely have made it that way, because it has to
[18:56] <codemagician> exutux, not sure why but fdisk -l still shows HPFS/NTFS
[18:56] <exutux> codemagician: yes because i can distinction easy
[18:56] <mamece2> cynical E. invalida operation nvidia-current-modaliases
[18:56] <Yerushalmi> blackdeagle: Indeed. Didn't work. I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D because of a bug in the regular version, and any window I open acts as though it's fullscreened even though it takes up only two-thirds of the screen, and it won't let me alt-tab between them.
[18:56] <exutux> codemagician: reboot
[18:56] <asmerkin> hi
[18:56] <Senjai> drc, dual boot for now, Ill go full ubuntu when I can figure out how to do all my work on it
[18:56] <asmerkin> I have problems with Windows 7 and Grub
[18:56] <asmerkin> Grub2
[18:56] <exutux> codemagician: udev need to recognize it again
[18:56] <lasko> ThinkT510: the first command gives me drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4.0K 2011-02-19 12:02  and i do have ntfs-3g
[18:56] <Yerushalmi> It won't let me alt-anything, in fact. Alt-F4 doesn't work either. Alt-letters still work with opening menus, though
[18:56] <asmerkin> when i log in into windows 7 then this breaks grub2
[18:56] <Senjai> mongy, A byproduct of dual booting?
[18:56] <lasko> mkanyicy: hmm i didn't unmount it first that might be it
[18:56] <asmerkin> do you know about how to solve this?
[18:56] <mongy> Senjai, a byproduct of having 3 primary partitions already
[18:57] <mongy> Senjai, cant have more than 4.
[18:57] <mkanyicy> lasko, thas definitely it
[18:57] <cynical> mamece2: is that from sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-modaliases ?
[18:57] <chrislu5tic> can someone help me?/ I have enabled "play deb" and im trying to install "enemy territory" but it says "there is no software packages called "enemy territor" in your current software resources"
[18:57] <drc> Senjai: I've NEVER dual booted before, so the dual boot specialists here would be better to ask about the partitioning and install
[18:57] <eskpados-insane> heellow
[18:57] <mamece2> cynical yes
[18:57] <codemagician> exutux, still showing HPFS/NTFS
[18:58] <Senjai> drc, thank you for your helo :)
[18:58] <ThinkT510> lasko: sorry i couldn't help, sounds like mkanyicy can though, hope you get the problem solved
[18:58] <exutux> o.0
[18:58] <codemagician> exutux, has a lost+found directory inside the drive
[18:58] <chrislu5tic> ugh
[18:58] <lasko> ThinkT510: it was my bad, I didn't umount it first :d
[18:58] <Senjai> mongy more than four primary right
[18:58] <exutux> isn't possible
[18:58] <eskpados-insane> hellow
[18:58] <drc> Senjai: But I would leave the DellUtility and Recovery alone (for windows use) until you decide to to go ubuntu alone
[18:58] <cynical> mamece2: remove nvidia-kernel-common and try again
[18:58] <mkanyicy> lasko, is it ok now?
[18:59] <exutux> if there is a lost+found means that it's is an ext* partition not NTFS
[18:59] <mamece2> cynical sudo modprobe nvidia <- FATAL: module nvidia not foud
[18:59] <stealth_> sd
[18:59] <eskpados-insane> any problem?
[18:59] <chrislu5tic> .....
[18:59] <exutux> codemagician: sudo blkid
[18:59] <needlez> mamece2: are you sure its a nvidia card??
[18:59] <drc> Senjai: and even after going ubuntu alone, I'd leave the DelUtility alone, I have used it calling Tech SUpport for a hardware peoblem in the past
[18:59] <lasko> mkanyicy: im on it
[18:59] <eXpLoD> How can i delete an IP adress?
[19:00] <codemagician> exutux, /dev/sdb1: LABEL="BLUE" UUID="674b6c82-5801-46e9-ace5-526fdb39510a" TYPE="ext4"
[19:00] <mkanyicy> lasko, ?
[19:00] <cynical> mamece2: mm one sec
[19:00] <buli> buli
[19:00] <lasko> mkanyicy: busy processes....
[19:00] <Senjai> drc, smart :) I'd even keep RECOVERY, just in case I had to install again :/
[19:00] <exutux> codemagician: TYPE ext4
[19:00] <codemagician> fdisk -l  shows /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:00] <mamece2> i cant believe theres no repair OS option..
[19:00] <mamece2> this is hell
[19:00] <needlez> cynical: hey could it not be showing the module cuz its not a Nvidia card??
[19:00] <exutux> codemagician: your fdisk is drunk
[19:00] <exutux> lol
[19:00] <codemagician> exutux,  fdisk -l  shows /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:00] <drc> Senjai: Personal Preference...but who would want to go back :)
[19:01] <buli> pozdro
[19:01] <codemagician> exutux, but for others /dev/sda6            3767        9730    47899648   83  Linux
[19:01] <WeThePeople> anybody know the code to set the clock to standard time...changing it from military time
[19:01] <exutux> codemagician: use pastebin
[19:01] <exutux> !pastebin
[19:01] <cynical> needlez: no it is because the right package isn't on his system in order to bring up the module
[19:01] <cyberrider> hi, I am new to developing in java ... and I have problems with sound in JDK and JRE ... can someone help me?
[19:02] <codemagician> exutux, http://pastebin.com/KDm2d0d3
[19:02] <mkanyicy> try #java cyberrider
[19:02] <cyberrider> #java
[19:02] <drc> Senjai: the RECOVERY is 16 gig, but if you don't need the space and think you might want to install windows later...I agree, leave it
[19:02] <erUSUL>  /join ##java
[19:02] <mongy> Senjai,  if you are going to repartition, then remove the ext4 and swap and extended partition, then resize ntfs (windows) smaller, then install ubuntu again, using free space.
[19:02] <cyberrider> ty
[19:02] <codemagician> exutux, here is a full one including blkid http://pastebin.com/6JP4DY8Q
[19:03] <cynical> mamece2: try rebooting now actually
[19:03] <cynical> mamece2: and then modprobing afterwards
[19:03] <mamece2> cynical sudo reboot ok
[19:03] <exutux> codemagician: realy curios thing
[19:04] <Senjai> drc, a 16g flash drive is like $20 these days.. lol
[19:04] <Senjai> mongy, I know i won't have to actually remove ubuntu to resize, I've dealt with that before.
[19:04] <codemagician> exutux, maybe i should try fdisk to do the partition again
[19:04] <codemagician> exutux, instead of the cfdisk
[19:04] <exutux> codemagician: cat /etc/fstab
[19:04] <lasko> mkanyicy: I can't unmount, says it's busy, I don't know what could be using the partition
[19:05] <WeThePeople> erUSUL, do you know the code to set the clock to standard time from military time?
[19:05] <jim288> anyone know a urban-terror game find channel?
[19:05] <mamece2> cynical the underscore blincklin now theres this message. theres ia a problem with the configuration server. /usr/lib/libgconf3/gconf-sanity-check 2 exited with status 356
[19:05] <mongy> Senjai, well you could resize without, but it might be messy, Im just a bit OCD like that.  resize the extended to fill free space from windows, then resize logicals.
[19:05] <erUSUL> WeThePeople: military time?
[19:05] <codemagician> exutux, http://pastebin.com/dYtetYwp
[19:05] <mkanyicy> lasko, try 'sudo lsof /dev/sda?'
[19:05] <WeThePeople> erusul, you know like 14:00 hours
[19:06] <WeThePeople> erusul, on lubuntu
[19:06] <erUSUL> WeThePeople: npe sorry
[19:06] <exutux> codemagician: very strange
[19:06] <cynical> mamece2: here do this, sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*
[19:06] <mamece2> cynical the underscore blincklin now theres this message. theres ia a problem with the configuration server. /usr/lib/libgconf3/gconf-sanity-check 2 exited with status 356
[19:06] <mongy> WeThePeople, does lubuntu have gconf-editor by chance?
[19:07] <codemagician> exutux, could it be because i used it in the past using a USB casing
[19:07] <codemagician> exutux, it used to be a NTFS drive in its past life
[19:07] <mamece2> cynical done
[19:07] <cynical> mamece2: and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-current-glx nvidia-settings
[19:07] <exutux> codemagician: but now you have destroyed all with format
[19:08] <cynical> mamece2: and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-current nvidia-settings*
[19:08] <exutux> codemagician: nonsense
[19:08] <codemagician> exutux, perhaps ubuntu is remembering its drive id and thinking its an external drive still?
[19:08] <WeThePeople> mongy,  yes
[19:08] <Senjai> Windows handles resizing remarkable well. If anything I'll do it on that side. No problem resizing its' own partition, to create unallocated space, then hop on ubuntu to make sure ext4 absorbs it nicely
[19:08] <Oceans80> i also need help with partitioning
[19:08] <lasko> mkanyicy: it was wine so I killed those pid's then I unmounted it and mounted it, now it is writing correctly, thanks!
[19:08] <Oceans80>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[19:08] <Oceans80> /dev/sda1               1        2167    17405403+  1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[19:08] <Oceans80> /dev/sda2   *        2168       41330   314569561+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:08] <Oceans80> /dev/sda3           41330       43820    19999744   83  Linux
[19:08] <Oceans80> /dev/sda4           43820       60802   136408065    5  Extended
[19:08] <FloodBot1> Oceans80: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <Oceans80> /dev/sda5           43820       59806   128408576   83  Linux
[19:08] <exutux> codemagician: nope if you saw blkid says that iy's an ext4 type
[19:08] <lasko> thanks ThinkT510 your fstab line is working
[19:09] <mkanyicy> !yay | lasko
[19:09] <ThinkT510> lasko:np
[19:09] <Oceans80> that is my partition table, but when i boot, grub says their are 2 ubuntus...
[19:09] <drc> Senjai: yeah, well, I still have problems with the staggering amount of RAM and storage available these days
[19:09] <codemagician> exutux, where does fdisk -l grabs its info from?
[19:09] <mamece2> cynical could find package 2010-10-22-..-virtualbox-2681.log
[19:09] <exutux> codemagician: gimme a minute
[19:09] <tonsofpcs> hi, just installed maverick netbook, how do I hide the application ribbon?
[19:09] <needlez> hey is anyone using kernel 2.6.35-27?? have you noticed with aircrack-ng fixed channel -1 is back again??
[19:09] <Oceans80> i have it set up as / and /home on 2 partitions
[19:09] <Oceans80> since i am dual-booting
[19:09] <cyberrider> I cannot join ##java...  ##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[19:09] <cynical> mamece2: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[19:09] <Senjai> drc, lol the days of 20gb gamse, and 7gb movies eh?
[19:09] <Hotmedal> is it ok to have applications running while 10.10 is installing?
[19:10] <mamece2> cynical ok its intalling some stuff
[19:10] <Oceans80> does /home have to be a primary or logical partition?
[19:10] <Senjai> cyberrider, register with the IRC server, type /ns register password email
[19:10] <cynical> mamece2: ok good
[19:10] <Senjai> with a password you set and an email address
[19:10] <cyberrider> ty Senjai
[19:10] <Oceans80> because you can only have 4 partitions, unless their are logical
[19:10] <Oceans80> this is the first time i was ever stopped during partitioning, and i made my logical and it now has 2 ubuntus on grub
[19:10] <mamece2> cynical sudo modprobe still getting module nvidia not found
[19:10] <dc> hi, i installed kernel 2.6.37 on ubuntu 10.04 and when I boot I get an error saying that the nvidia kernel module can not load. I tried adding the nviudia ppa repositories and updating, but it told me that the nvidia driver I had was already the newest one. Any idea of what could be wrong?
[19:11] <drc> Senjai: no, the days of multigig word processing files :(
[19:13] <Hotmedal> uh
[19:13] <cynical> mamece2: mmm strange
[19:13] <Hotmedal> the image for shut down just vanished
[19:13] <Hotmedal> o.0
[19:13] <mamece2> cynical theres no other way? i cant believe it
[19:13] <Hotmedal> it shows the error image in its place
[19:13] <cynical> mamece2: did all of the packages install just fine?
[19:13] <mamece2> cynical yes, theres was no error
[19:14] <codemagician> exutux, just rebooting
[19:14] <codemagician> exutux, back in a moment
[19:14] <ThinkT510> Oceans80: both / and /home can be logical partitions
[19:14] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:14] <cynical> mamece2: there is another way
[19:14] <mamece2> cynical if i reinstall ubuntu i could keep my old files?
[19:15] <cynical> mamece2: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-* again
[19:15] <cynical> mamece2: we can try the binary installer from nvidia's site
[19:15] <mamece2> cynical ok its done
[19:15] <needlez> mamece2: can you run lspci | grep -i vga and show the output?
[19:16] <cynical> mamece2: ok run, wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/260.19.36/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.36.run
[19:16] <Yerushalmi> Okay, now that I've figured out I need to run metacity manually in order to actually be able to switch windows and stuff, I can ask for help again with my problem and concentrate on it this time.
[19:16] <Oceans80> ThinkT510, but grub sees 2 ubuntus, what if i do win7 on a primary, and / on a primary..then /home on a logical
[19:16] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[19:16] <Oceans80> i think i got it figured out
[19:16] <Oceans80> i'm going to whisper you
[19:17] <cynical> mamece2: that will get the installer, then you run sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.36.run to run it
[19:17] <mamece2> cynical VGA compatible controller: interl coportaion moviule 4 series chipsert integrated graphisc controller (rev 7)
[19:17] <sss> Can someone help me dual-booting Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server?
[19:17] <cynical> mamece2: intel integrated?
[19:17] <needlez> mamece2: no where in there does it say nvidia
[19:17] <mamece2> cynical needlez theres no nvidia anywhere
[19:18] <needlez> cynical: that might be the problem,
[19:18] <cynical> needlez mamece2: yeah it must use intel drivers, unfortunately that makes it a lot more complicated
[19:18] <needlez> cynical: your trying to modprobe something that doesn't exist so it will fatal everytime if thats the case
[19:19] <needlez> cynical, mamece2: give me some time to think and ill see what i can dig up real quick
[19:19] <cynical> needlez: intel drivers are in the kernel, so I don't get how it could fail
[19:19] <mamece2> cynical needlez i get this message when i boot,  theres ia a problem with the configuration server. /usr/lib/libgconf3/gconf-sanity-check 2 exited with status 356
[19:19] <ThinkT510> sss: what seems to be the problem?
[19:20] <sss> ThinkT510, Can I specify the partition in Ubuntu Server after I have already only Ubuntu Desktop?
[19:21] <needlez> cynical:  yes, I realized that too, it is strange that they would fail
[19:21] <mamece2> cynical in recovery mode what option shoudl i choose?
[19:21] <gohan4748> hey guys im back but i need help
[19:21] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:21] <cole> I have a file containing a list of ('\n' separated) ulr's indicating the location of packages I'd like to download. I'd like to pass this list through to wget so that it will download all of them in one go. I've tried: "cat list | wget" and I get the error: "wget: missing URL". What am I doing wrong?
[19:21] <mongy> WeThePeople, back.  yes, there is a place in gconf-editor to set things for desktop, like time etc.  I cant say where precisely
[19:21] <ThinkT510> sss: you can have as many ubuntu installs (server and desktop) on the same machine if you wish
[19:22] <sss> ThinkT510, ok thanks
[19:22] <gohan4748>  i need help
[19:22] <codemagician> exutux, any luck?
[19:23] <cynical> mamece2: hey do me a favor and try this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then reboot
[19:23] <ThinkT510> sss: you simply need at least 1 partition per install
[19:23] <mamece2> cynical i just use repair packages from the recovery mode, let it end and then i will try that my friend
[19:23] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: what seems to be the problem?
[19:23] <dc> hi, i updated to kernel 2.6.37 in ubuntu 10.04. Now I have a problem with the nvidia driver. How can I install the latest version of the driver?
[19:23] <cynical> mamece2: kk
[19:24] <gohan4748> well my internet
[19:24] <exutux> codemagician: nope
[19:24] <exutux> codemagician: maybe there is some infos about that HD in some rules in /lib/udev/rules.d/
[19:24] <codemagician> exutux, its only fdisk -l that displays type 7
[19:24] <cynical> mamece2: before that actually can you use lspci -v  and tell me what you see under VGA?
[19:25] <exutux> but i don't know how
[19:25] <drc> WeThePeople: You're trying to have the deafult clock in the top panel show 24hr time?
[19:25] <mamece2> cynical as predicted it failed (the recovery mode)
[19:25] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: any more details?
[19:25] <CrystalLinux> Does anyone know any good netbook distros?
[19:25] <gohan4748> it wont work
[19:26] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: are you using a different computer to talk to us on irc?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> CrystalLinux: LXDE has lxlauncher
[19:26] <exutux> s/how/where/ codemagician
[19:26] <CrystalLinux> What's lxlauncer?
[19:26] <gohan4748> no im not
[19:26] <mamece2> cynical vga compatible: subsyste, lenovo device 3a02, flags memory, capabilities, jernerl drive in use i915, kernel modules:i915
[19:27] <CrystalLinux> And do you need a USB for it?
[19:27] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: then you are already on the internet
[19:27] <mamece2> cynical theres a lot of info, do u want something specifically?
[19:27] <DarkStar1> How can I tell if a link is symbolic or a hard link?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> CrystalLinux: puppy is good on netbooks too
[19:27] <codemagician> exutux, as in disk -l /dev/sdb1   outputs   /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:27] <cynical> mamece2: no that was perfect
[19:27] <CrystalLinux> ActionParsnip
[19:27] <gohan4748> no like i cant go on browser
[19:27] <peppe> hello
[19:27] <cynical> mamece2:  now try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then reboot, I'll look for i915 specific issues in the mean time
[19:27] <WeThePeople> dcr, no its the bottom panel, i use lubuntu. its shows military time, i would like to change it to standard time. there is a code i need, and i dont know it
[19:28] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: what happens when you open up a browser?
[19:28] <WeThePeople> drc,^^
[19:28] <codemagician> exutux, interestingly. If I do "fdisk /dev/sdb1" and type p   print the partition table it shows nothing
[19:28] <gohan4748> nothin pops up
[19:28] <mamece2> cynical
[19:28] <mamece2> cynical ok im rebooting
[19:28] <DarkStar1> Anyone?
[19:28] <cynical> mamece2: kk
[19:28] <drc> WeThePeople: what does ^^ mean?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: how are you launching the browser?
[19:29] <mamece2> cynical the same again, low graph mode
[19:29] <WeThePeople> drc, see above comment
[19:29] <gohan4748> i click on it
[19:29] <Oer> WeThePeople, Right click the clock, click settings and chose 12 hour mode.
[19:30] <codemagician> exutux, http://pastebin.com/XjLKDDW2
[19:30] <Akuw> hi
[19:30] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: can you open a terminal?
[19:30] <WeThePeople> oer, it does not work like that,
[19:30] <gohan4748> no
[19:30] <codemagician> exutux, i selected 'n' add a new partition (primary 1). then 'w' write it
[19:30] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: but your on ubuntu now?
[19:31] <Akuw> i want to change Login Window but in System->Administration->Login Window is not the options to chenge that
[19:31] <Akuw> s/chenge/change
[19:31] <cynical> mamece2: this is when just booting from the first item in the grub menu?
[19:31] <Hilikus> jk
[19:31] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:32] <WeThePeople> oer, i have to change the clock format from   %R   <<<that means military time. i dont know the format for standard time
[19:32] <gohan4748> idk
[19:32] <KM0201> Akuma: what do you mean you "want to change it"?... the graphic?
[19:32] <drc> WeThePeople: ah...missed that (you typed dcr :)...did not realize it was lubuntu...have no knowledge of lubuntu.
[19:32] <mamece2> cynical just booting, i never get to grub unless i hit letf shift key
[19:32] <ThinkT510> gohan4748: sorry i can't help you
[19:33] <gohan4748> ill get it working myself then bye
[19:33] <cynical> mamece2: ok do this, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look at the line that says Driver and tell me what is in quotes
[19:34] <soreau> cynical: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:34] <cynical> soreau: yeah but I'm going to ask him to change it if it is what I think it is
[19:34] <mamece2> cynical theres nothing in that file
[19:35] <soreau> cynical: By default, there is no xorg.conf
[19:35] <cynical> soreau: I thought he may have upgraded from an old install
[19:35] <Oer> WeThePeople, Just replace %R with %H , or use %I
[19:36] <soreau> mamece2: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[19:36] <WeThePeople> oer, thx
[19:36] <mamece2> soreau i cant pastebin i just have CLI
[19:37] <soreau> mamece2: Run this to get a link to the file: sudo apt-get install curl && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[19:37] <Fuchs> mamece2: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:37] <mp33pm> anyone ever heard of grub trying to boot windows but it just goes to a black background screen with a white cursor ( _ ) ?
[19:38] <Lungan> Having som trouble, having laptop without a working ethernet port. How can I install the wifidriver on my fresh install of ubuntu netbook editiion? Is there anyway I can download a driver and put in on a usb stick and transfer it over? How do I do?
[19:38] <Kbentley57> lungan, what wifi card do you have?
[19:38] <Lungan> Kbentley57, How do I check that? I think its a broadcom
[19:39] <soreau> Lungan: What wifi chip is it?
[19:39] <KM0201> Lungan: "lspci" in a terminal and hit enter... find yoru wireless device
[19:39] <soreau> Lungan: Look in the output of lspci
[19:40] <Lungan> okok hold on 1 sec
[19:40] <mamece2> ubuntu = hell
[19:40] <ikonia> mamece2: stop
[19:40] <ikonia> mamece2: if you don't like it, don't use it, but don't moan about it in here
[19:40] <KM0201> mamece2: well, i'm sure that will help.
[19:40] <soreau> mamece2: Can you just post the link to the log file?
[19:40] <Lungan> soreau, KM0201 Kbentley57  Its a broadcom BCM4312
[19:40] <soreau> ! broadcom | Lungan
[19:41] <njbair> All the black pixels on my screen are being replaced by the last flash video I viewed. Is there a problem with nVidia drivers that might cause this?
[19:41] <mamece2> i havent said hell is bad, jsyk
[19:41] <mp33pm> how do you find what hd is what for grub?
[19:41] <KM0201> !broadcom | Lungan there's info on this site for that device.
[19:41] <mp33pm> like for my windows boot it has (hd1,msdos1)
[19:41] <RndmHero> can anyone tell me where I can find some themes for xchat?
[19:41] <soreau> RndmHero: Try #xchat
[19:41] <mp33pm> how do you find out the hd #s and msdos #s
[19:41] <RndmHero> im in #xchat
[19:41] <RndmHero> no one is active there
[19:41] <mp33pm> anyone?
[19:42] <soreau> RndmHero: Try google while youre wainting
[19:42] <soreau> waiting*
[19:42] <RndmHero> heh I have been
[19:42] <RndmHero> thanks anyway
[19:42] <KM0201> Lungan: i would try the "STA" driver first.. you can use your USB installer to install those files... if that doesn't work, try the b43 driver
[19:42] <Kbentley57> does anyone have experience with freenas / rsync?
[19:42] <Oer> !themes | RndmHero
[19:42] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[19:43] <mamece2> soreau i dont know how
[19:43] <soreau> RndmHero: AFAIK, xchat has colors that are configurable in the settings and thats it.
[19:43] <soreau> mamece2: Run this to get a link to the file: sudo apt-get install curl && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[19:43] <ThinkT510> mp33pm: tried using gparted, it gives a graphical view of all your partitions?
[19:43] <mp33pm> yeah but it doesn't give you the numbers
[19:43] <ThinkT510> mp33pm: which numbers?
[19:44] <mp33pm> the hd #s and msdos #s
[19:44] <mp33pm> I have been trying to get my boot table fixed for like 4 days
[19:44] <mp33pm> o_o
[19:44] <mp33pm> i was able to boot into windows but not with grub
[19:44] <soreau> mp33pm: For grub I believe its hd0,1 is the first partition on the first drive. The drive number starts at 0, the partition number at 1
[19:44] <dublisk> Hi, I am trying to install gcc 3.4 on ubuntu 10.10, what is the easiest way to do this?
[19:44] <KM0201> ThinkT510: what numbers are you talking about?
[19:45] <mp33pm> soreau, so hd(0) if there is no partition
[19:45] <mp33pm> for the first hdd
[19:45] <soreau> mp33pm: (hd0,1)
[19:45] <Cube``> what's this CMS/wiki/blog called where you author by creating plain text files?
[19:45] <mp33pm> soreau, what is the msdos number and how do i find that out
[19:45] <soreau> mp33pm: I dont know what you mean by msdos number
[19:46] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:46] <ThinkT510> KM0201: thats what i was trying to find out from mp33pm, i was referring to the partition designations (sda1, sdb1)
[19:46] <mp33pm>  set root='(hd1,msdos1)'
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> Cube``, maybe dokuwiki
[19:46] <KM0201> hmm.
[19:46] <Cube``> brontosaurusrex: ok lemme check it
[19:46] <KM0201> mp33pm: see if sudo blkid gives you what you want
[19:46] <mp33pm> ThinkT510, soreau: http://www.pastie.org/1583314
[19:47] <mp33pm> for some reason it never boots to windows i just get a screen with a white cursor ( _ ) in the upper lefthand corner and it never proceeds.
[19:48] <Cube``> brontosaurusrex: no, thats not it. i think it wasnt a wiki. it was extremely simple and minimalistic
[19:48] <Jezzz> What is the best way to back up my ubuntu install?
[19:48] <KM0201> mp33pm: well what makes you think this is a grub problem?
[19:48] <Petskull> hey guys
[19:48] <Petskull> help with my conky?
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> Cube``, simple php blog
[19:48] <Petskull> I'm getting a shadow around the window
[19:48] <mp33pm> KM0201, when I do update-grub it updates the latest info
[19:48] <soreau> mp33pm: Make it look like this http://pastebin.com/t8pai1fm
[19:49] <mp33pm> and it still doesn't boot windows
[19:49] <KM0201> mp33pm: ok..?. that still doesn't mean its a grub problem
[19:49] <Cube``> brontosaurusrex: nah. it had a distinct name. was only used by geeks
[19:49] <soreau> ! backup | Jezzz
[19:49] <KM0201> mp33pm: usually if it's a grub/target issue... when you select windows, you'll get an error.(non-bootable device, or somethin like that)
[19:49] <Jezzz> soreau, ubottu, thanks. I'm getting ready to make a change to my sysctl.conf file and last time I did this it borked my machine.
[19:50] <gokill> anyone know to install blackbuntu in vmware...............plz help me......
[19:50] <KM0201> Jezzz: lol, glutton for punishment?
[19:50] <Jezzz> KM0201, yeah.  I need to make this change to get a part of zoneminder working.
[19:50] <soreau> Jezzz: Couldnt you just have changed it back from a live session?
[19:50] <mp33pm> soreau, going to try it
[19:50] <Jezzz> soreau, probably.  just haven't tried yet.
[19:50] <gokill> anyone know to install blackbuntu in vmware...............plz help me......
[19:50] <KM0201> gokill: blackbuntu isn't supported here... installing an OS inside vmware/vbox should be pretty simple.. #vmware or #vbox
[19:50] <IdleOne> gokill: we don't support that here
[19:51] <Jezzz> soreau, this machine is my video management box.  I can't afford to lose the time I've put into it so far
[19:51] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:51] <soreau> mp33pm: I dont know where you got msdos1, but msdos is a partition table type, not a partition type
[19:51] <Petskull> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011643
[19:51] <Petskull> sweet
[19:51] <gokill> what is metasploit
[19:52] <_Alex__> What is the name of the Ubuntu chat bot?
[19:52] <IdleOne> _Alex__: ubottu
[19:52] <ThinkT510> soreau: my grub2 entry says the same, except its hd0 instead of hd1 but it boots fine
[19:52] <_Alex__> aha, thanx
[19:52] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[19:52] <IdleOne> _Alex__: she doesn't do much chatting
[19:52] <gokill> anyone know to install blackbuntu in vmware...............plz help me......
[19:52] <IdleOne> gokill: We don't support that distro here. go ask them in their forums
[19:53] <gokill> oks
[19:53] <_Alex__> gokill: This is ubuntu! Not blackbuntu, not fedora, not debian! Go somewhere else
[19:53] <gokill>  idleone thanks for your info
[19:54] <Chikokishi> I cant get my sound to work on 10.10, it worked fine a couple days ago and it works in my "guest" account. But not my Admin account
[19:54] <Jezzz> !cloning
[19:54] <codemagician> exutux, i managed to fix the problem by using gparted gui
[19:54] <raluxgaza> Hey guys what's your favourite music player, I am looking for something like winamp on windws with excellent sound quality
[19:54] <codemagician> exutux, it layed down a msdos partion first
[19:54] <KM0201> !poll | raluxgaza
[19:54] <needlez> Chikokishi: lspci | grep -i audio
[19:54] <needlez> post output
[19:55] <codemagician> exutux, thanks for helping with the other bits
[19:55] <_Alex__> Do you use a cheap USB SoundCard? Chikokishi
[19:55] <Jezzz> !automate
[19:55] <Chikokishi> needlez 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[19:55] <ThinkT510> raluxgaza: a good winamp like music player is audacious
[19:55] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[19:55] <Oer> raluxgaza, i use the standard rhytmbox, with an equaliser plugin ( helps a lot )
[19:55] <mongy> raluxgaza, audacious.  look into pulseaudio-equalizer if you want better sound output also.
[19:56] <raluxgaza> KM0201, it's not a poll just looking for what might be a good sub for winamp
[19:56] <Diamondcite> raluxgaza: There is a player like Audacious which is similar to Winamp 2.x series, or things like rythmbox, amarok, for Library based music players.
[19:56] <KM0201> raluxgaza: it is a poll... "What is the best..." is polling the channel
[19:56] <raluxgaza> Oer, what equalizer plugin?
[19:56] <raluxgaza> KM0201, I apologies for "what is the best" statement
[19:57] <Jezzz> soreau, can I just image the drive with a drive imaging app?  Like I would do with windows?
[19:57] <IdleOne> raluxgaza: vlc, mplayer, smplayer, gnome-mplayer, amarok, rhythmbox, banshee, kaffeine, xmms, totem, totem-xine
[19:57] <Chikokishi> Alex what do you mean?
[19:57] <raluxgaza> ThinkT510, mongy, Diamondcite  sweet i see the same recommendation, thanks guys
[19:57] <eLvis> i have a question
[19:57] <eLvis> why Ubuntu is not using aptitude ?
[19:58] <KM0201> Diamondcite: audacious is pretty awesome actually.
[19:58] <System_Default_0> eLvis: Isn't it?
[19:58] <mongy> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[19:58] <mongy> simpels
[19:58] <eLvis> ok
[19:58] <eLvis> but why
[19:58] <eLvis> it's not included by default
[19:58] <Jezzz> do windows drive imaging apps like ghost work on the file system used by linux?
[19:59] <_Alex__> Aptitude isn't installed by default in Ubuntu?
[19:59] <Jezzz> _Alex__, don't think so
[19:59] <eLvis> On ubuntu 10.10, nope
[19:59] <erUSUL> eLvis: too much space for a tool that has too much overlap with apt-*
[19:59] <IdleOne> _Alex__: not anymore
[19:59] <eLvis> erUSUL: What you mean by overlap ?
[19:59] <mongy> Jezzz, I personally use clonezilla for a ghost like app.
[19:59] <Oer> raluxgaza, from these french friends > http://www.lirmm.fr/~morandat/index.php/Main/Tools
[19:59] <erUSUL> eLvis: they do basically the same things
[19:59] <WeThePeople> oer, that does not work well
[20:00] <needlez> Chikokishi: you still have that issue??
[20:00] <TryHarder> help
[20:00] <TryHarder> --help
[20:00] <Jezzz> mongy, i just have a bootcd already built with ghost.  will be simpler for me.  just wanted to make sure it would work.
[20:00] <eLvis> erUSUL: No, aptitude is more intelligent
[20:00] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[20:00] <eLvis> the way it handle conflicts, upgrade and removing of package, it's better then apt-get
[20:00] <mongy> Jezzz, with ghost being so old, I wouldnt like to bet on it.  Clonezilla is a similar boot cd.  simple to use
[20:01] <IdleOne> eLvis: that used to be true, no longer
[20:01] <ThinkT510> TryHarder: anything i can help you with?
[20:01] <erUSUL> eLvis: i didn't say they were identical
[20:01] <Jezzz> mongy, have the website?  is a disc image downloadable?
[20:01] <eLvis> IdleOne: Why ?
[20:01] <eLvis> erUSUL: Okay :D
[20:01] <IdleOne> eLvis: anyway it is easy enough to install.
[20:01] <Kbentley57> i need some help with an rsync issue
[20:01] <IdleOne> eLvis: apt-get does just as good a job at handling depends
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> !ask | Kbentley57
[20:02] <eLvis> I tought aptitude was better
[20:02] <eLvis> Even debian recommends aptitude instead of apt-get
[20:02] <mongy> Jezzz, clonezilla.org
[20:02] <TryHarder> CONNECT irc.freenode.net
[20:02] <IdleOne> TryHarder: /
[20:02] <Jezzz> mongy, thx
[20:02] <erUSUL> TryHarder: you are already in freenode
[20:02] <mongy> Jezzz, I personally use the alternate stable iso.  maverick bujild.
[20:02] <mongy> Build*
[20:02] <TryHarder> thx... how can i get to amarok channel?
[20:03] <mongy> Jezzz, I also use ub stick to boot it.
[20:03] <ThinkT510> TryHarder: /join #amarok
[20:03] <spaceninja> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. How do I solve this problem when Im trying to install scribus for example?
[20:04] <needlez> Chikokishi: did you see my pm??
[20:04] <Chikokishi> needlez :yes, still nos ound
[20:04] <Jezzz> mongy, so for usb boot, do I get the zip?
[20:04] <needlez> kk ill brb
[20:04] <mongy> spaceninja, seen that problem a LOT... think someone should make a bug report.  Are you using software centre?
[20:04] <Kbentley57> I cant seem to get rsync to work between my pc and freenas box
[20:04] <spaceninja> mongy, yes
[20:04] <mongy> Jezzz, well I use the iso because I boot isos...but yes,  get the zip, instructions are on the site
[20:05] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[20:05] <raluxgaza> Sweet on the audacious recommendation guys, one more thing where can i get the presets (equalizer settings) please, looking especially for "Rock"
[20:05] <mongy> spaceninja, in software repositories, 'authentication' click restore defaults and refresh your sources list
[20:05] <mongy> raluxgaza, I use global eq, pulseaudio-equalizer
[20:05] <WeThePeople> oer, i got it...%I%M%S  Hours Minutes Seconds
[20:06] <WeThePeople> oer, in standard time
[20:06] <simpleq> how do I make rsyslogd listen for external traffic?
[20:06] <_Alex__> Jezz: This guide worked for me: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-grub2-on-usb-from-ubuntu-linux/
[20:06] <|Long|> which apps, it allow me to see all my drives free space? in GUI?
[20:07] <Jezzz> how do i format a flash drive in linux?
[20:07] <_Alex__> Gedit is the easyest way
[20:07] <ThinkT510> |Long| : check out gparted
[20:07] <Jezzz> _Alex__,  please noobify that for me
[20:07] <_Alex__> *gparted, not gedit
[20:07] <Fluttershy> _Alex__: was going to say
[20:08] <Jezzz> terminal > gparted.... i assume it will give me command line options?
[20:08] <Jezzz> would hate to format the wrong drive :)
[20:08] <raluxgaza> mongy, thanks
[20:08] <eLvis> ubuntu
[20:08] <CarlFK> Jezzz: system, admin, disk util, select your drive and hit format button
[20:08] <spaceninja> mongy, i think it works with aptitude
[20:08] <Whitor> hi all, I'm on 10.04 64bit. I'm having small issues with video playback. a youtube video plays fine at its normal size, but if I make it full screen, I get maybe 3 frames a second. maybe less. It is really choppy. This happens for any video played at full screen. I am wondering if the 32bit version might work any better. This is on a thinkpag T510 with an nvidia nvs-3100 video card
[20:08] <Jezzz> CarlFK, thank you
[20:08] <mongy> spaceninja, yeah I have heard its a problem with USC...  I use apt-get
[20:09] <vale> hey there, i think i messed up the boot loader
[20:09] <ThinkT510> Whitor: just wanted to say i approve of your choice in laptops
[20:09] <XeCrypt> hi everybody
[20:09] <_Alex__> vale: what's wrong?
[20:09] <_Alex__> what did you do
[20:09] <cynical> whitor: you aren't the only one having fullscreen flash issues, hate that pos software
[20:09] <Whitor> heh, Bright display, huh ThinkT510 ?
[20:09] <vale> when i try to turn on the pc, it goes into a loop and don't load anything from HD
[20:09] <Whitor> cynical, it does this with mpeg too
[20:09] <Jezzz> CarlFK, says the drive is busy.  but it's not.
[20:10] <eLvis> Ubuntu
[20:10] <Chikokishi> needlez: i replied to your pm
[20:10] <dougl> hey - I am on my way out to the bestbuy store can anyone suggest a usb camera I could use for skype?
[20:10] <Whitor> cynical, vlc or media player ... any video at full screen
[20:10] <ThinkT510> Whitor: yeah, i usually dim it a bit, but as regards flash fullscreen sorry I never use it fullscreen
[20:10] <Jezzz> CarlFK, oh.. guess i need to unmount
[20:10] <vale> I've got 2 OS ubuntu 10.10 and win 7
[20:10] <dougl> hey - I am on my way out to the bestbuy store can anyone suggest a usb camera I could use for skype? <- that will work under ubuntu 10.10
[20:10] <_Alex__> vale: It is posstble that grep is broken, too bad
[20:10] <Whitor> ThinkT510, yeah, I can't stare into that brightness all day. I need it dimmed for general use... but in the Sun, I've not seen any display better yet
[20:11] <vale> any solution?
[20:11] <KM0201> dougl: good luck... it can be shaky w/ that.
[20:11] <Whitor> ThinkT510, just curious... are oyu on 32 or 64 bit ?
[20:11] <_Alex__> vale: If grep is broken, nothing can be done
[20:11] <ChogyDan> dougl: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw
[20:11] <ThinkT510> Whitor: 64
[20:11] <thethinker> issue: Volume mutes when headphones are inserted. When manually unmuted sound is though speakers not headphones. Suggestions?
[20:11] <vale> _Alex__: O_O
[20:11] <XeCrypt> somebody familar with casper and could tell me what could be the cause if the boot is deadslow (~7 mins) .. and almost all the time you hear the drive reading like crazy.. cause it seems to seek the file across the whole disc. I am using squashfs for the compressed fs and an AUFS-captable kernel (2.6.36.2) with integrated initramfs.
[20:11] <XeCrypt> I was thinking maybe theres a index-file which stores the location of the files inside the squashfs?!
[20:12] <ThinkT510> Whitor: fullscreen video with vlc works fine for me though
[20:12] <cynical> whitor: are you using the proprietary drivers?
[20:12] <KXTwo> I have a blackberry curve 8830 I am not seeing desktop manager for linux on the bb website, is there anyway I can back up my phone via ubuntu or am I goingm to have to use windows
[20:12] <Whitor> cynical, I am usingthe proprietary drivers
[20:12] <simpleq> could really use some help on how to make rsyslogd listen for external traffic.
[20:12] <cynical> whitor: bleh then I'm not sure
[20:12] <vale> so i must re-install ubuntu, isn't it?
[20:13] <_Alex__> Yea
[20:13] <Whitor> cynical, thanks anyway
[20:13] <Chikokishi> I cant get my sound to work on 10.10, it worked fine a couple days ago and it works in my "guest" account. But not my Admin account
[20:13] <vale> aw, crap...
[20:13] <dougl> ChogyDan, nice link... the cameras listed have been tested working under ubuntu/linux to be on the list?
[20:13] <middle> Hello
[20:13] <_Alex__> vale: and try another distro if you want, Example Debian is not bad
[20:13] <middle> OK, i have a weird issue, and i think i know a soultion, but i stilll need some help
[20:14] <_Alex__> what is it, middle
[20:14] <simpleq> the rsyslogd man page does not help
[20:14] <vale> i'll take a look
[20:14] <vale> thank you!
[20:14] <ChogyDan> dougl: basically, yeah.  The more free a driver is, the better support it gets
[20:14] <ChogyDan> and those are %100 free
[20:14] <middle> When i boot Ubuntu 10.10 i get to the loading screen then when it goes to the login prompt, it blackscreens. I had this issue whilst trying to install Arch, i overcame it by adding 'nomodeset' to the end of the grub menu... but i can't seem to do that here. ANy suggestions?
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> If the hardware maker supplies the proper specs at least. :0 dosent do much good to be 'free' if its lacking in the core features
[20:15] <induz_>  how can i get .mov quicktime files from avi files
[20:15] <middle> Oh i also had this issue prior to arch, (thats why i tried arch)
[20:15] <ChogyDan> dougl: but I don't know about specifics for each camera
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> middle:  you can add nomemtest to the default options, or hit 'e' and edit the grub boot line and add it there.
[20:15] <svelte> hey can someone help me out? my grub2 failed yesterday so I reinstalled with the a livecd per the instructions on ubuntu.org, and now the grub terminal loads but I don't know where to go from there
[20:15] <System_Default_0> !!
[20:15] <induz_> I want to use Cinerella that uses .mov file but my video files are .avi files
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> middle:  repkace 'nosplash quiet' with 'nomodeset' in the grub entry
[20:16] <svelte> I know I need to update-grub but I don't know where
[20:16] <middle> yeah, which line? And can't i edit it in /boot/grub/menu.lst (i can't)
[20:16] <middle> ahh
[20:16] <middle> nosplash quiet
[20:16] <middle> gotchay
[20:16] <middle> brb
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  its all about the actual codec used. not always the extension.
[20:16] <FloodBot1> middle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> middle:  replaceing nosplash quiet - will also disable plymouth that often has issues with the drivers..
[20:16] <Whitor> induz, http://tinyurl.com/5v6ygys
[20:16] <Jezzz> mongy, can't seem to find instructions to make bootable usb on clonezilla
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> middle:  so you should have a nice text type boot screen :) no fancy animation
[20:17] <induz_> Dr_Willis, Cinerella works with .mov files and when i try to load files from .avi format cinerella crashes
[20:17] <Whitor> induz, Also, http://www.openshot.org/download/
[20:17] <induz_> i need to change .avi to .mov QT file format
[20:17] <Chikokishi> I cant get my sound to work on 10.10, it worked fine a couple days ago and it works in my "guest" account. But not my Admin account
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  a .avi 'format' could be any of several dozen+ codecs.. try converting them to somthing else with ffmpeg/mencoder
[20:17] <middle> Dr_WIllis: At the moment, i have linux /boot/vmliz... ro quiet splash
[20:17] <middle> should i replace quiet splash with nomodeset?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> middle:  thats is what i do
[20:17] <Whitor> induz, sorry, just:  http://www.openshot.org/
[20:18] <middle> cool
[20:18] <_Alex__> induz_: FFMPEG is your programe to use
[20:18] <induz_> how can i get mencoder??
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  its in the repos..
[20:18] <raluxgaza> Hey guys just installed clementine and it's exactly what I am looking for, i tried audacious but for some reason the sound isn't right on my system, it's probably just my system, but with clementine the sound is excellent "rock" preset ftw
[20:18] <itaylor57> induz did you already reinstall ubuntu on your computer?
[20:18] <middle> Dr_WIllis: BSOD
[20:18] <svelte> hey, can anyone help me out? grub2 failed yesterday so I reinstalled from livecd but now all I get is the grub terminal and I don't know how to boot from there
[20:19] <induz> Whitor, I dont need another program as i have tried many
[20:19] <rjnienaber> rsync question: is there a way to exclude directories in the source directory from being synced to the destination directory?
[20:19] <induz> itaylor57, No, i manage to get kdenlive working
[20:19] <middle> Dr_Willis: is just editing it and pressing Ctl+x actually saving it or jsu tbooting?
[20:19] <mongy> !grub2 | svelte
[20:19] <XeCrypt> so nobody using casper here? maybe that explains why I am having problems...
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> middle:   the tips should tell you. i cant rember.
[20:19] <XeCrypt> it seems uber crappy
[20:19] <svelte> I already followed those instruction
[20:19] <induz> itaylor57, i dont have DVD burner right now
[20:19] <svelte> but now all I get is a grub terminal
[20:20] <induz> and i dont have a copy of Ubuntu lucid
[20:20] <svelte> no boot options
[20:20] <makaveli0129> trying to get zone minder to work on ubuntu have everything good 4 channel card works fine for channel 0 but all other 3 channels show same thing.... any idea
[20:20] <mongy> svelte, tried the chroot method?
[20:20] <itaylor57> induz well you are running a unstable installation so you will get weird results
[20:21] <svelte> wait, I have a separate boot partition I just realized, so I mounted sda1 to /mnt/boot/ and also reinstalled grub2 to /mnt/boot
[20:21] <svelte> should that work?
[20:21] <mongy> svelte, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD    method 3
[20:21] <induz> itaylor57, right now i dont have other option
[20:21] <middle> Dr_Willis: hmmmm still nothing... how about radeon.modeset=0? Or is there another solution?
[20:22] <GMH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645611 <-- how do i add that line to my autostart.sh?
[20:22] <induz> Ok what is ffmpeg?/
[20:22] <_Alex__> ffmpeg is a converting SW
[20:22] <mongy> !info ffmpeg
[20:22] <GMH> i have autostart.sh open, but should i preface it with if statements, or test statements, or anything?
[20:22] <cynical> ffmpeg is a lot of things
[20:22] <middle> And any idea why it has started doing it? WHen i first isntalled it was fine, but the 3rd and fourth installaitons have done this... maybe it is because i am definign my own partitions, not jsut writing over the whole disk?
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> middle:  i only have needed nomodeset with muy nvidia cards.
[20:23] <makaveli0129> trying to get zone minder to work on ubuntu have everything good 4 channel card works fine for channel 0 but all other 3 channels show same thing.... any idea
[20:23] <induz_> there are so mnay FFmpeg files at repo which one to downlaod to work with  cinerella
[20:23] <middle> Ah i have ati
[20:23] <induz_> i have avi
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  winff is a front end to ffmpeg.. you covnert the video to somthing cinerella can use.
[20:24] <induz_> Dr_Willis, help me installing correct ffmpeg for lucid
[20:24] <middle> Can i edit it in /etc/fstab?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  install winff.. and it should pull it in.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> middle:  fstab wouldent be affecting the system booting graphics systems..
[20:24] <induz_> I have winff Dr_Willis
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  so.. use it?
[20:24] <mamece2> soreau are u there?
[20:24] <soreau> mamece2: yea
[20:24] <_Alex__> INDUZ_:As superuser, type: 'apt-get install winff xterm ffmpeg'
[20:24] <induz_> Dr_Willis, how can i use it/
[20:25] <mamece2> soreau http://sprunge.us/VIBY
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  run it.. click on the buttons and menus....
[20:25] <_Alex__> Aplications>Video & media>WinFF
[20:25] <middle> Stupid quesiton, how do you scroll up in grub?
[20:25] <middle> Stupid quesiton, how do you scroll up in grub?
[20:25] <middle> Stupid quesiton, how do you scroll up in tty?
[20:25] <middle> even
[20:25] <itaylor57> middle: pageup
[20:25] <induz_> Dr_Willis, where it should be....under application...video/sound or something else
[20:26] <middle> Doesn't work
[20:26] <makaveli0129> middle, you can use your arows
[20:26] <_Alex__> sound & video
[20:26] <middle> arrorws, just show bash history
[20:26] <middle> page up doesn't work...
[20:26] <makaveli0129> middle, are you using vi?
[20:26] <genii-around> middle: shift-pageup together
[20:26] <iflema> middle: hold shift and pageUp pageDown
[20:26] <middle> woo shift page up =]
[20:26] <soreau> mamece2: It appears to be normal. What problem do you have when you try to start X?
[20:27] <mamece2> error compiling keymap
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  seems theres a new video editor out for linux now as well -> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/auteur-non-linear-editor.html
[20:27] <induz_> why ffmpeg is running under wine
[20:27] <_Alex__> lol
[20:27] <liekg6> Whats the current ubuntu version
[20:27] <induz_> Dr_Willis, I tried kdenlive and like it, now trying to cinerella
[20:27] <_Alex__> 10.10
[20:27] <mamece2> soreauerror compiling keymap
[20:27] <ThinkT510> liekg6: 10.10
[20:27] <mamece2> soreau error compiling keymap
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  I think you are confused about ffmpeg in wine.. winff is a front end.. nothing to do with wine
[20:28] <ubuntu_> programmfenster clibre liegt rechts ausserhalb und lässt sich nicht verschieben! wie bekomme ich es als vollbild?
[20:28] <liekg6> Tx
[20:28] <arrrghhh> can i get logs of remote desktop sessions?
[20:28] <middle> Dr_Willis: where can i edit the grub menu from a terminal? Like you know how you edit it in the grub menu with e, but i want to edit the file that that is read from. in arch it was /boot/grub/menu.lst any idea what teh arch equivalent is?
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> middle:  /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ have the configs to edit. then rerun update-grub
[20:28] <induz_> Dr_Willis, where can i find winff???
[20:28] <induz_> Dr_Willis, on my system
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> middle:  read teh grub2 wiki pages.
[20:28] <_Alex__> middle: nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:28] <arrrghhh> my dad uses ubuntu and makes it sound like he got hacked
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  look in your menus. or 5run it from command line..
[20:29] <induz_> Dr_Willis, there is application, Places, system....
[20:30] <Chikokishi> So my ubuntu just did a random "Partial update" and fixed my sound.  How would i initiate that on my own?
[20:30] <mman> erUSUL, i did what you said, but still get the same in initramfs
[20:30] <_Alex__> induz_: Lol, how long do you use Gnome? not long i see
[20:30] <eLvis> BLALBALA
[20:30] <geirha> arrrghhh: If he has enabled vnc without requiring password or prompt for confirmation, he likely has been.
[20:30] <middle> yeah i found one config file
[20:30] <induz_> _Alex__, i just started
[20:30] <arrrghhh> geirha, but how is that open on the LAN?
[20:31] <Chikokishi> So my ubuntu just did a random "Partial update" and fixed my sound.  How would i initiate that on my own?
[20:31] <Diverdude> when setting up wan on lan, i go to bios to enable the wake on lan feature. Do i also have to specify somewhere how long idle time before shutdown?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  so go down each menu item.. i would guess that the logical place would be uin the 'sound and video' subm,enu,,
[20:31] <Pulsar580> Good evening everyone !
[20:31] <induz_> how can i run winff in accordenace with cinerella
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[20:31] <geirha> arrrghhh: upnp
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  it has nothing to do with cinerella.. you use winff to convert video to whatver format you need.
[20:31] <arrrghhh> geirha, what?
[20:31] <linuxrocks> Hi, just installed Ubuntu 10.10. When starting the Update manager it doesn't recognise the password I use for root
[20:31] <mman> have problems during boot, get the initramfs can any body help me?
[20:31] <mkanyicy> induz_, what do you want to achieve?
[20:31] <geirha> arrrghhh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upnp
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> linuxrocks:  you mean you initial users password? there is no root password by default
[20:32] <arrrghhh> geirha, i know how upnp works, i didn't think that's how remote desktop worked
[20:32] <middle> Dr_WIlis: IS there naythign else i can do?
[20:32] <arrrghhh> it says only local access when you enable it
[20:32] <mkanyicy> middle, read ALL of this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> middle:  check the wiki/forums for your exact chipset. I got 1 ati system..
[20:32] <raven> how to display all images in a also in subfolders?
[20:32] <middle> cool
[20:32] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: I start Synaptic Package Manager and it asks for an administrative password. I enter my one (the one I also use for sudo) but it doesn't recognise it
[20:32] <induz_> Dr_Willis, asper s/w Synaptec manager winff is installed but I dont see it under sound/video sub menu
[20:33] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: However sudo apt-get install from command line works fine
[20:33] <Jezzz> so i've burned an iso image to cd, but ubuntu says disc is still blank.  Do i need to finalize or something?
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> linuxrocks:  you could try 'sudo -s' then try runnign synaptic. or just use apt-get from the command line.
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  run winff from a terminal then. who needs icons
[20:33] <geirha> arrrghhh: Well, depends on the router supporting it or not.
[20:33] <mman> how to get rid of initramfs
[20:33] <arrrghhh> geirha, so you're saying he had remote desktop enabled without a password, (highly likely) and his router had upnp enabled, which automatically enabled remote desktop to the outside world?
[20:34] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: I will try sudo -s because I don't know the exact package name, that's why I wanted to use Synaptic
[20:34] <arrrghhh> l
[20:34] <geirha> arrrghhh: It's not enabled by default, so he must've enabled it himself if that would be the case.
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> linuxrocks:  a user can use synaptic and search for things.. or you can use 'apt-cache search PATTERN'
[20:34] <_Alex__> induz_:I dont know about ubuntu, but in Debian, sometimes not all is displayed and System > Preferences > Main menu corrects that
[20:34] <arrrghhh> geirha, but remote desktop doesn't open ports thru upnp on the router by default does it?
[20:34] <needlez> ok, hi, my wireless just got up and walked away, yes it was working before, i was trying to do the maxim patch for channel negative one and now have no wireless can someone help get my wireless back??
[20:35] <arrrghhh> geirha, oh noes.  there's a check box "configure network automatically to accept connections"
[20:35] <arrrghhh> geirha, ok... so logs?
[20:35] <Jezzz> brasero shows the data has been burned.  how do I finalize the disc?
[20:35] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: sudo -s works fine. Running synaptic as myself it asks for a password to save in the keyring. Is this something new in 10.10? Didn't experience this in 10.04
[20:35] <induz_> Dr_Willis, I got winff running now from command line
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> linuxrocks:  its asking for a keyring password perhaps?
[20:35] <mkanyicy> Jezzz, inst it finalized already?
[20:35] <induz_> its a codec converter
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> linuxrocks:  i never nituced synaptuic using the keyring.
[20:36] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: I haven't setup one
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  yes.. thats what we have been saying.. iot converts vuideos.
[20:36] <Diverdude> when setting up wan on lan, i go to bios to enable the wake on lan feature. Do i also have to specify somewhere how long idle time before shutdown?
[20:36] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: At least that I know of. How would I find out about keyring passowrd?
[20:36] <_Neytiri_> i have a question what would cause mount -a to take up 100% if the cpu
[20:36] <Jezzz> mkanyicy, it won't boot, so I booted ubuntu to check and it still shows as a blank disc.  but with 150MB less space
[20:36] <linuxrocks> Dr_Willis: s/passowrd/password
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> linuxrocks:  I dont think synaptic uses the keyring. and the keyring pass is whatever you set it to. if you just use blank. it wull use unsafe storage.
[20:36] <Jezzz> mkanyicy, so I know the data is on disc.  seems like it's not finalized or something.
[20:36] <needlez> hello anyone?
[20:37] <induz_> Dr_Willis, now the Q is how can i integrate it with cinerelaa
[20:37] <geirha> arrrghhh: I don't know if it logs anything. Maybe ~/.xsession-errors, but that one is overwritten each time you log in.
[20:37] <mkanyicy> Jezzz, so you burned ubuntu on that cd?
[20:37] <Jezzz> i burned a clonezilla iso
[20:37] <induz_>  or cinerella is like FCPro with its codecs
[20:37] <mamece2> i cant boot ubuntu 10.04 32 bit. ctrl+alt+F7 brings tht modprobe vboxfailed
[20:37] <Jezzz> trying to image my ubuntu box
[20:37] <mkanyicy> Jezzz, did you burn another cd?
[20:37] <Jezzz> mkanyicy, no.  Just 1 cd drive in this machine
[20:38] <middle> In my frub menu i have linux twice, linux recovery twice, then memtest... HOw comes i have it twice and could that be the issue?
[20:38] <mkanyicy> Jezzz, i mean did you try to burn the iso image one more time?
[20:38] <joth> I just tried to upgrade the kernel on Maverick, and now my laptop won't boot up; it says there's a problem with /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 - can anyone help please?
[20:38] <Jezzz> nope
[20:38] <raven> how to display all images in a also in subfolders?
[20:38] <Jezzz> mkanyicy, nope
[20:38] <mamece2> i will rest, this is so frustrationg
[20:38] <Jezzz> mkanyicy, trying now
[20:38] <needlez> how do i modprobe my device?? for wireless
[20:39] <mkanyicy> Jezzz, try to ensure that its md5 checksum is ok, and then try to burn it again at the slowest speed available (1X)
[20:39] <Jezzz> mkanyicy, ok.  thanks.
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  you dont.. you covnert the viudeo to a format cineralla can handle.. if cineralla cant handle the video in its current format
[20:40] <Chikokishi> So my ubuntu just did a random "Partial update" and fixed my sound.  How would i initiate that on my own?
[20:40] <mkanyicy> needlez, what device do you have?
[20:40] <induz_> Dr_Willis, i got u
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Chikokishi:  perhaps 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[20:40] <Jezzz> Chikokishi, System>Admin>Update Mgr
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Chikokishi:  or just a normal 'sudo apt-get update' and 'upgrade'
[20:40] <needlez> mkanyicy: 03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[20:40] <Grand-Devot> Omg
[20:40] <induz_> Dr_Willis, is cinerella worth trying or there r better application on Ubuntu or linux
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  i dont do video editong.. other then converting.
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> induz_:  i mentioned a new video editor app earlier
[20:41] <Chikokishi> thanks Jezz and Dr_Willis
[20:41] <ThinkT510> induz_: openshot is a good video editor
[20:41] <andresmh> has anyone upgraded from Vista to Win 7 on a dual-boot system? I just want to know if doing that would mess up with my Ubuntu. I posted my full question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27155/
[20:42] <raven> how to display all images also in subfolders?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> andresmh:  it pays to know how to restore your grub when messign with eindows
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> raven:  display them where exactly?
[20:42] <needlez> mkanyicy:03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[20:42] <mkanyicy> needlez, try 'sudo iwconfig 2> /dev/null'
[20:43] <ChogyDan> ThinkT510: video editor, really?
[20:43] <needlez> mkanyicy: do i need to reboot after to see if it works??
[20:43] <raven> Dr_Willis, all images in subfolders on one page as like as in irfanview thumbnails
[20:43] <mkanyicy> needlez, no
[20:43] <dsnyders> How easy is it to sync a cell phone to Thunderbird?
[20:43] <andresmh> Dr_Willis: yeah, I guess. I'm just a moment in time where I don't have that much extra time and I'd rather learn to do it during the summer or some other time.
[20:44] <ThinkT510> ChogyDan: http://www.openshotvideo.com/ yes
[20:44] <induz_> ok Dr_Willis I am trying cinerella with .dv files and later i will get openshot
[20:44] <andresmh> Dr_Willis: from your comment I can infer that you did upgrade from Vista to Win 7 on a dual-boot system and you had to restore grub?
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> raven:  irfanview works in wine last time i tried it. :)
[20:44] <needlez> mkanyicy: then it didn't work
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> andresmh:  i rarely if ever upgrade..
[20:44] <needlez> still no wifi
[20:44] <raven> Dr_Willis, no linux tool like that?
[20:45] <mkanyicy> needlez, what was printed?
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> raven:  no idea. ive never needed the feature. I have seen tools to generate html-thumbnail web pages from directories of images.
[20:45] <needlez> nothing it just returned nothing
[20:45] <mkanyicy> needlez, pastebin any output
[20:45] <mkanyicy> needlez, ok
[20:45] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[20:46] <needlez> mkanyicy: http://pastie.org/1583497 thats what happened and no wifi still
[20:46] <mkanyicy> needlez, try what is suggested here: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10209040
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[20:47] <ChogyDan> ThinkT510: neat, thanks.  Ive been on the lookout for a solid video editor.  I think there is some other something-shot program that is a photo editor, hence my surprise
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[20:48]  * KM0201 sighs
[20:48] <shane4ubuntu> I have a computer with like 5 or 6 accounts on it, I want everyone to be able to access the pictures, but only me to be able to modify and delete them, what is the best way to go about that?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:  set the permissions to be read only by the resto of the world. but r/w by the owner
[20:48] <arrrghhh> anyone?  logs from remote desktop logins?
[20:48] <sjk> shane4ubuntu, chmod 755 pictures/
[20:48] <KM0201> shane4ubuntu: you'd need the other users to only have rea access
[20:49] <sjk> shane4ubuntu, chmod -R 755 pictures, even.
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[20:49] <shane4ubuntu> ok, permissions aren't so much the problem, then do I make a link in everyone's folder?
[20:49] <FloodBot3> kaIpazan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <songer3> kaIpazan: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[20:49] <Lint01> lol it depends where are those pictures located
[20:49] <songer3> betuI: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[20:49] <songer3> kaIpazan: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[20:49] <songer3> kardeIen: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[20:49] <sharperguy> !es
[20:49] <LjL> songer3: disable that
[20:49] <shane4ubuntu> right now those pictures are in my home directory
[20:50] <dsnyders> I think I'll come back when the nonsense is over.
[20:50] <shane4ubuntu> under Pictures, is there a better location to put them and share them?
[20:50] <needlez> mkanyicy: this is the error i got http://pastie.org/1583512
[20:50] <shane4ubuntu> right, that is about annoying
[20:50] <KM0201> dsnyders: this usually goes on for about 5-10min.. then it goes away.. they'll get their jollies and move on in a few
[20:50] <Lint01> shane4ubuntu, then they must have also execute access to your home
[20:50] <shane4ubuntu> Lint01: right set as 755 then correct?
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[20:51] <dsnyders> I'm curious about how easy/difficult it is to sync a cell phone to ubuntu based software.
[20:51] <Lint01> shane4ubuntu, it won help- much as they have no access to your ~
[20:51] <KM0201> shane4ubuntu: why not put it somewhere other than /home ?
[20:51] <shane4ubuntu> however there isn't a central location or somewhere to put them, and when I create a link in their directory I have to do it as root, which then makes that link non-accessible
[20:51] <shane4ubuntu> ok, like /home/Pictures?
[20:52] <bluebows> I just installed Edubuntu on a computer.  When I try to open firefox I get an XML Parsing Error: undefined entity   Location: chrome:browser/content/browser.xul   line number 31, column 1:  <window id="main-window"
[20:52] <sharperguy> dsnyders, Probably depends on which cellphone and what data
[20:52] <KM0201> shane4ubuntu: no.. /home/pictures, is still /hjome
[20:52] <KM0201> *home
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I'm open for suggestions
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> I have home on a separate partition, so somewhere there would be the place to go
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> instead of /home/myusername
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:  /home/YOURUSERNAME/Pictures or whever would work. or you could set up some other dierdtory if you wanted.
[20:53] <shane4ubuntu> actually /home/myusername/Pictures where they currently are
[20:53] <needlez> mkanyicy: also with sudo invalid argument
[20:53] <raven> Dr_Willis, irfan view crashes after some seconds of loading.......
[20:53] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: i'm thinking that would be easiest (another directory)
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:   the parrent directories need to have proper permissions also.
[20:53] <dsnyders> sharperguy, I don't have a cell phone yet.  I'd like to sync the address book and calendar at least.  I currently have a handspring visor and it only seems to sync with evolution.
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> raven:  file a bug i guess. :)
[20:53] <raven> Dr_Willis, what do you mean?
[20:54] <nucc1> how do i find which package provides a certain file?
[20:54] <shane4ubuntu> Dr_Willis: I guess but seems like that would open up my home directory, which isn't a huge deal
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | raven
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:  depends on how you set the permissions.
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> !permissions
[20:55] <shane4ubuntu> Dr_Willis: reguardless they would have to be able to read from the /home/username folder in order to access the /home/username/Pictures folder, which minimally would be 744 on my home
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:  thats the core of how permissions work yes.
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> but that dosent mean they have full access to other subdirs in yoru home.
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> I set up 'PublicShare' type dirs in my home for other users to use.
[20:56] <shane4ubuntu> Dr_Willis: oooooh, right, because I don't have to set those recursively
[20:57] <needlez> anyone??
[20:57] <ThinkT510> shane4ubuntu: can't you have a seperate partition to put any files on and set up access rights on each account?
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:  you can even set specific permissions on a file... :)
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu:  so its all about how you want to do it.
[20:57] <sharperguy> dsnyders, Well I don't have much information about what stuff is supported. There could be an article somewhere in the ubuntu community wiki.
[20:57] <shane4ubuntu> Dr_Willis: right, for some reason my brain was stuck in recursive mode which doesn't have to be the case
[20:57] <zen_monkey> hi, is there a way to find a ppa that's not working? like when apt-get update returns an error, to know from wich of them?
[20:57] <middle> Dr_willis: Would it be possible to uninstall the Ati catalyst drivers, from a Live CD, or tty? If so how? (Just hint)
[20:57] <shane4ubuntu> ok, gotta run, thanks
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> middle:  boot live cd, chroot into installed system. use package manager tools as needed.
[20:58] <dsnyders> !cell
[20:58] <middle> Thanks
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> middle:  or edit the installed systems xorg.conf to use 'Driver 'ati'' or 'Driver 'vesa'' instead of 'driver flgrx'
[20:58] <aplund> Where do I go for help with suspend/resume and monitor restoring issues?
[20:59] <ThinkT510> !suspend
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> aplund:  the forums also may have info on aspecific brand/make of laptops/machines
[20:59] <dsnyders> No ubottu?
[20:59] <ryniek_> ń
[20:59] <aplund> Dr_Willis: ubuntuforums.org ?
[20:59] <needlez> how can I undo this patch which I tried?? it broke my wireless http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598930&highlight=maxim+patch first post
[21:00] <middle> Dr_willis: Stupid question, how do you chroot? The HDD is mounted in /media...
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> middle:  with the 'chroot /path/to/use' command
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> !forums
[21:00] <middle> so what is the path to use? /media/HDD?
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> whever its mountpoint is.
[21:01] <ChogyDan> needlez: fyi, You may want to give backtrack a try in the future.  Not sure how to fix that though
[21:01] <ThinkT510> aplund: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/hardware/C/pm-suspending.html
[21:01] <needlez> ChogyDan: bt doesnt work with my i7 has an irq request failure
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> middle:  you could check the xorg.conf first.. see what Driver 'XXXX' its set to be using.
[21:01] <needlez> ChogyDan: thx anyways tho
[21:02] <middle> Section device: driver fglrx
[21:03] <boscop> can anyone send me the gtk bell sound as an audio file (I'm on windows and need it for xchat)
[21:03] <middle> SO that is the proprietry one... i need to change it to the open source one?
[21:03] <middle> rr
[21:03] <Diverdude> Hello everybody. I am trying to setup Wake On LAN up on my ubuntu 10.10 server. I enabled the feature in BIOS, and then i created a script containing this: ethtool -s eth0 wol g;exit and placed it in /etc/ini.d/wol.sh and chmod a+x it. I have rebooted and then i try to shutdown server with command shutdown -h 0. Then i try from my desktop ubuntu machine to execute wakeonlan xx:yy:zz:01:02:03 (ofc. with right MAC address) but the server doe
[21:03] <Diverdude> s not turn on. What am I missing?
[21:03] <needlez> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598930&highlight=maxim+patch anyone know how to remove this and get back my wifi??
[21:04] <silverlightning> is there a separate lubuntu forum?
[21:04] <iConfused> How could I mount a DVD with nohide? o.o;
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> silverlightning:  there might be.. there is a #lubuntu channel :)
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/DVD -o whateveroptionsyouwant   (would be one way)
[21:05] <silverlightning> thanks
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  no idea what you mean by 'nohide'
[21:05] <NooBoontoo> What is GTK for?
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> !gtk
[21:06] <NooBoontoo> I mean, I was downloading some Gnome themes and I keep seeing thGTK, GTK+ themes ...
[21:06] <NooBoontoo> Oh, so is it ok if I download them and use them on Gnome?
[21:06] <NooBoontoo> Is it possible?
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> NooBoontoo:  themes are  made of theme 'parts' such as window decorators, widgits (inside the windows, buttons and stuff) and icon themes..
[21:06] <Diverdude> anyone?
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> NooBoontoo:  most likely its a theme  for the 'buttons/widgits' you are seeing.
[21:07] <iConfused> Dr_Willis, I've been digging through google, trying to figure out how to get rid of an error with an installer, and I think nohide is an option, so, I'll try using that. I was trying to use cdrom as the name of the device as opposed to sr0, so that was probably my main issue.
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  on my system /dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/sr0
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> so is /dev/dvd :)
[21:08] <middle> Im just going to install it again
[21:08] <NooBoontoo> thx
[21:08] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[21:09] <middle> Im just going to install it again
[21:10] <YixilTesiphon> Any ideas why a 10.10 install on a very old laptop would just be sitting there with the processing cursor right after pressing the "Install Ubuntu" button?
[21:11] <iConfused> Dr_Willis, hooray for unpleasant output ;~; — mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  thats a generic 'you did somthing wrong' message. :)
[21:11] <iConfused> hooray~ I suppose I should run 'dmsg | tail' though
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  whats the exact command line you used?
[21:13] <iConfused>  Dr_Willis: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/povlluka/ -o nohide
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> I dont even know what the nohide option does. :)
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> you dident give it a -t filesystemtouse option either..
[21:13] <gokill> hey anyone how to break ....the login pasword....or say boot loaader password..
[21:13] <iJosh> Whats the best linux for 1200x800 and boots from USB ?
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> gokill:  you set a new one..
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> iJosh:  it would depnd on the system specs. most any can do what you asked.
[21:14] <magnetron> hi, often ssh to a shell server where i run irssi and tcsh in screen. how do i make tcsh update the screen hardstatus line with something useful? how can i make the remote screen session update my gnome-terminal window title?
[21:14] <iConfused> Dr_Willis, okay, well, I guess I should use -t iso9660, then?
[21:14] <iJosh> Its a Old (2007) PackardBell EasyNote  - 4GB
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  or udf perhaps.
[21:15] <gokill> no i have to break the password.....i forget...my pass tel me how to breake login pass
[21:15] <iJosh> Im on Blackbuntu atm
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> gokill:  you dotn break it.. you boot a live system , or some how get to the installed os/chrot in and set a new one
[21:15] <gokill> ijosh...........blackbuntu...is...good
[21:16] <iJosh> Yeeh, is there a good Linux for Wifi cracking?
[21:16] <magnetron> iJosh: ubuntu
[21:16] <sudipta> hi
[21:16] <ohsix> iJosh: any of them
[21:16] <gokill> we can run .exe in blackbuntu
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> wine can run .exe in  most disrtos...
[21:16] <iJosh> I cant run C4D in vista but i can in XP .. Hmmm
[21:17] <iJosh> Cinema 4D
[21:17] <gokill> anyone know about gnacktrack
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> !info gnacktrack
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> Nope. :)
[21:17] <LjL> !offtopic
[21:17] <sudipta> is there any command that tells how many processor core i have?
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:17] <iJosh> Ok, so how do i change the graphics to 1200x800 in Blackbuntu?
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> i think its in there.. somewhere..
[21:18] <LjL> iJosh: this is not the Blackbuntu support channel, this is Ubuntu
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[21:18] <iConfused> Dr_Willis, okay, so, udf was the filesystem. Learn something new every day, I suppose. (Whether I should have already known that or not is a mystery for another day.)
[21:18] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  no idea.. read them and see..
[21:18] <gokill> hwy i josh canu tell me how to install blackbuntu...in vmware
[21:18] <iJosh> BlackBuntu runs on Ubuntu 10.10
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  udf - common for dvd and dvd videos i belive.
[21:18] <drc> iJosh: Packard Bell Easynote R3450 ?
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> iJosh:  dont assume that anyone in here even knows what blackbuntu is...
[21:19] <iJosh> Easynote mh35
[21:19] <LjL> iJosh: it's a derivative of Ubuntu, it's not Ubuntu
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> i know ive never heard of it befor
[21:19] <ThinkT510> nor me
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> Yet another pointless variant? :)  or does it have an actual focus?
[21:19] <iJosh> I know, i got Ubuntu 10.10 , Puppy, Black, Backtrack, i have loads i use
[21:19] <LjL> iJosh, gokill: it seems they have a support forum at http://board.blackbuntu.com/
[21:20] <spacefish> anyone know how to restore my ubuntu from a backup of / ?
[21:20] <iConfused> Dr_Willis, I've never really had to manually mount a disc before ^^;
[21:20] <Lint01> different names, same stuff. you don´t think they change anything beyound wallpaper?
[21:20] <iJosh> has Black got a IRC?
[21:20]  * iConfused wanders away to beat wine into submission
[21:20] <LjL> Lint01: yes i do
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> iConfused:  old skool.. :) i can rember when the desktops/systems did not automoutn anything..
[21:20] <LjL> iJosh: i don't know, sorry
[21:20] <drc> iJosh: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=702329 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4351066&highlight=MH35#post4351066 will help?
[21:20] <andrea_> ciao
[21:20] <finwin> hi
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> Night all..
[21:21] <finwin> i just installed lubuntu on my toshiba satellite l20...runs nicely
[21:21] <iJosh> And... Is it possible to boot XP from a USB. No Install?
[21:22] <LjL> iJosh: ... ok, if Blackbuntu isn't supported in this channel, what makes you think XP is?
[21:22] <LjL> this channel supports *Ubuntu*. please keep it ontopic.
[21:22] <iJosh> LjL i was asking :"
[21:22] <LjL> well don't
[21:22] <aplund> I've posted my suspend/resume issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10474518
[21:22] <iJosh> FY then, Bye, Ignorant Prick
[21:22] <iConfused> iJosh, Probably not. If there's an ##XP or something, you should ask there
[21:22] <LjL> !ops | iJosh
[21:23] <tonsofpcs> how do I configure and/or close the ribbon in Maverick netbook?
[21:23] <spacefish> my partition got formatted.  Can I restore everything from my deja dup backup of /   ?
[21:24] <moza> Hi, i have a sudden and weird problem, my sound just stopped working...
[21:24] <tonsofpcs> moza: kill pulseaudio
[21:24] <xcfdjSe7en> 'lo there
[21:24] <hippytaff> spacefish: if you backed it up you ahould be able to restore it...that's the whole idea of backing up :-)
[21:24] <tonsofpcs> "killall pulseaudio" if you want to just type it
[21:24] <ohsix> spacefish: you can, but if you want to restore more than just /home you probably want to use duplicity directly to do it (deja-dup uses duplicity behind the scenes)
[21:25] <spacefish> Sorry.  To be more specific can I just restore everything to the partition and reinstall grub and everything will be the same?
[21:26] <moza> tonsofpcs, i tried pulseaudio --kill, but i guess i'll try the killall way.
[21:26] <ohsix> it doesn't back up partitions, but you can create a partition to recover to and reinstall grub and all that
[21:26] <xcfdjSe7en> I've downloaded the netbook version of Ubuntu 10.10 and I want to boot it from my USB thumb drive , but Unetbootin doesnt seem to work , neither does "dd" , what else should I use ?
[21:27] <moza> tonsofpcs, should i restart it afterwards?
[21:27] <tonsofpcs> nah
[21:27] <moza> it seems it doesnt kill... :/
[21:27] <tonsofpcs> try as root?
[21:27] <tonsofpcs> sudo killall pulseaudio
[21:27] <tonsofpcs> but if you don't mind restarting, restarting usually fixes it
[21:28] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: do you have an existing ubuntu install? theres a startup disk creator that does it correctly
[21:28] <moza> i did it as root tonsofpcs
[21:28] <hippytaff> spacefish: It should be the same as your last backup - I suggest following ohsix's advice
[21:28] <moza> but ok, it doesn't wok, i guess i need to restart :(
[21:28] <ohsix> moza: check the pid; it's probably being killed and restarted
[21:28] <moza> oh, indeed ohsix
[21:29] <smith`> alo
[21:29] <moza> not immediately, that's why my second killall -v seemed ok...
[21:29] <smith`> sunteti din romania ?
[21:29] <wolfric> how can i make a drive plugged in with a gnome logged in user available to other users (via ssh etc)
[21:29] <ddrone> hello guys
[21:29] <wolfric> changing the permissions on the dirs in /media didn't work
[21:29] <LjL> !ro | smith`
[21:29] <xcfdjSe7en> ohsix, I'm not on Ubuntu , I'm on a Linux though and I dont have that tool installed ?
[21:29] <xcfdjSe7en> -?
[21:29] <xcfdjSe7en> ohsix, got another suggestion ?
[21:29] <ddrone> can someone recommend a good tutorial no tikz?
[21:29] <MohammadAG> umm, how do I find out why my / was remounted as ro?
[21:29] <ddrone> on tikz*
[21:30] <smith`> mijto
[21:30] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: if you have a gnome it's probably under system -> administration
[21:30] <moza> ohsix, tonsofpcs : would a apt-get remove pulseaudio be too much?
[21:30] <ohsix> moza: i didn't see your original question
[21:30] <MohammadAG> cause I can't login (gnome power defaults), df -h shows 100% used up /, though that's due to ro
[21:30] <moza> ohsix, the sound just disappeared...
[21:30] <xcfdjSe7en> ohsix, I'm 100% positive that I dont have it installed
[21:31] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[21:31] <tripp2> Does ubuntu offer any type of power profiles when using a laptop? i.e. high performance, battery saving
[21:31] <tripp2> I cant find anything beyond basic ac vs on battery settings in power option
[21:31] <spacefish> I made a new partition and restored my backup of / to it (using deja dup).  Tried restoring grub2 using method from http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html  but i couldn't bind proc
[21:32] <JQQ> Does ubuntu have trogger commands in power profiles for what to do when you close the lid etc?
[21:32] <JQQ> trigger*
[21:32] <drc> JQQ: yes
[21:33] <rumpe1> spacefish, try "mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc" instead of "mount --bind ..."
[21:33] <spacefish> okay i'll try
[21:33] <drc> JQQ: System>Preferences>Power Management
[21:33] <ohsix> tripp2: it doesn't try to delude you :]
[21:33] <JQQ> Is there a good list of features I would lose if I used Ubuntu 100% for my personal machine... using a laptop, with windows 7 and such... anything little like ability to lock screen at 5 mins (screen saver settings), etc, etc... I know i have a lot to gain by going to it as im a Developer and have been thinkinng to leave win and mac for some time
[21:33] <GMH> There's a file i want to edit, but it's opening as read-only when I open it in gedit.
[21:33] <GMH> How do I edit it?
[21:34] <GMH> is there like some sort of "takeown" command?
[21:34] <GMH> sudo gedit doesn't work
[21:34] <ThinkT510> !enter
[21:34] <moza> ok, i reboot, and i'll see if that helps
[21:34] <GMH> sorry
[21:34] <greppy> GMH: gksudo gedit
[21:35] <GMH> okay, thank you
[21:35] <ardchoille> !gksudo > GMH
[21:36] <KM0201> sudo gedit should work just fine... it's not realy the proper way to do it, but it does work... fi he coudn't get sudo to work, he won't get gksudo to work
[21:36] <spacefish> mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc gives message :  mount point /mnt/proc does not exist
[21:36] <ohsix> KM0201: it only works from a terminal
[21:36] <ThinkT510> JQQ: that depends on what features you use in mac and windows, from my usage pattern i know that only games keeps my windows partition alive
[21:36] <rumpe1> spacefish, well... you have to adapt it to YOUR system...
[21:36] <wolf> what's the different between compiler and interpreter ??
[21:36] <KM0201> ohsix: ?.. well yeah, thats where you run sudo commands
[21:36] <KM0201> he said sudo didn't work.. if sudo wasn't working, then gksudo isn't going to work... he was doing something wrong
[21:37] <GMH> KM0201: sudo didn't work, but gksudo did.
[21:37] <KM0201> GMH: then you did something wrong when you tried sudo.
[21:37] <ohsix> .
[21:37] <JQQ> ThinkT510: Only 2 games I play is DominateGame and StarCraft (one) ... assuming those are easy enough to WINE?
[21:37] <ardchoille> Guest76795: basically, you need a copy of the interpreter on the system to run an interpreted app (such as perl or python) but you don't need the compiler to run a compiled app
[21:37] <rumpe1> rumpe1, e.g. if a mountpoint doesn't exist then mkdir it
[21:37] <Yerushalmi> Does anybody know how I can  get a list of the packages installed during my most recent update, two days ago?
[21:37] <GMH> well i entered "sudo gedit autostart.sh"
[21:38] <LjL> Yerushalmi: possibly /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:38] <ohsix> KM0201: try it with an instance of gedit running already
[21:38] <ardchoille> !gksudo
[21:38] <ThinkT510> JQQ: check the appdb in wine
[21:38] <JQQ> !wine > jqq
[21:38] <xcfdjSe7en> sorry internet died
[21:38] <xcfdjSe7en> tripp2, note also that lightweight DE's consume less then full futured ones
[21:38] <KM0201> GMH: again.. not splitting hairs here, but if sudo didn't work, it was you... i just tested it by using "sudo gedit" to edit my source list... it works fine
[21:38] <Guest76795> what's app
[21:38] <Yerushalmi> LjL: Thanks
[21:38] <ardchoille> Guest76795: applications (software)
[21:38] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: have you measured what "less" is?
[21:38] <GMH> ehh, whatever.  this works, and i just learned gksudo.  :)
[21:38] <KM0201> ohsix: same thing.. works jsut fine.
[21:39] <moza> reboot did help the sound to work...
[21:39] <ardchoille> GMH: I keep a menu item for gksudo, it has a nice GUI :)
[21:39] <GMH> well, i am using openbox, and trying to get stuff to work, so GUI is not something i can ask for at this point
[21:39] <Guest76795> on  other hand ????
[21:40] <GMH> what i did was i installed ubuntu on an old laptop, with only 256 MB ram, and it's quite slow
[21:40] <ohsix> KM0201: you can also click on the link to see some of the issues; but gedit will send commands to a running instance instead of running a new instance as root
[21:40] <ardchoille> GMH: That's where a light window manager excels :)
[21:40] <GMH> so i was looking into alternatives to gnome that might work better.  i got openbox and fluxbox, but i can't connect to the internet.
[21:40] <KM0201> ohsix: all i can tell you, is i just done it (had one file open w/ gedit, and ran sudo gedit /source list... and it worked just fine.
[21:40] <elfranne> http://pastebin.com/R0Hidx59 what have i done wrong with my smb.conf ? i can only see public but i can  even not  write in it  ?
[21:40] <ohsix> great stuff
[21:41] <GMH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645611 <-- found this, and am trying to edit autostart.sh.
[21:41] <W4RH4WK> GMH, i'd recommend giving xfce a try it's much easier
[21:41] <JQQ> does anyone know of any good Aero/Win7 copy cat themes/skins and such so i could add some "familiarty" to Ubuntu if i made the full switch... i havent found many articles on customizing Ubuntu a lot
[21:41] <KM0201> ohsix: i stand by my opinion that if he couldn't get sudo to properly work, he was doing something wrong... is it the right way to do it?.. no.. but it was still him, not ubuntu
[21:41] <ohsix> GMH: you need a widget that'll talk to networkmanager and tell it to do stuff
[21:41] <ohsix> KM0201: phhrbthth
[21:41] <ThinkT510> !themes | JQQ
[21:41] <ohsix> KM0201: you can't do it wrong
[21:41] <GMH> ohsix: is it something i can solve by putting "nm-applet --sm-disable &" in the autostart.sh file?
[21:41] <KM0201> ohsix: his path or something was wrong, thats the only logical explanation.
[21:42] <ohsix> KM0201: no
[21:42] <bc81> JQQ: kubuntu is more similar to win7 then ubuntu is, i think.  you might have a more comfortable transition
[21:42] <KM0201> ohsix: well, logic is onm my side, you're just ranting..
[21:42] <ohsix> GMH: possibly but the desktop you pick should have a session manager and be able to start it for you
[21:42] <KM0201> ohsix: sudo and gksudo , are the same thing... if one works, the other will (while one may not be technically appropriate, it will still work)
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> JQQ: there is a transform pack to make the OS look like Win7 if you wish
[21:42] <ohsix> KM0201: hahah, logic! you actually don't know the circumstances at _all_ well enough to make a logical conclusion, you are full of it
[21:42] <ardchoille> GMH: Have you tried XFCE or LXDE? They're lighter than gnome
[21:42] <KM0201> ohsix: one of us is full of it all right.
[21:43] <ardchoille> KM0201: lol
[21:43] <Guest76795> means the interpreter program to run it i need an interpreter app to excute it
[21:43] <GMH> ardchoille: Not yet; i'd only heard of fluxbox and openbox from two friends
[21:43] <guntbert> ohsix: stay polite
[21:43] <ohsix> KM0201: no, they are very different, graphical apps often spawn one instance, then futher invocations send commands to the running instance to do things
[21:43] <GMH> i will look into them
[21:43] <Guest76795> i mean the source of the prog
[21:43] <KM0201> ohsix: i just tested your "reasoning" on why it didn't work for him, and it worked just fine for me.. .again, PEBKAC.. had nothing to do w/ ubuntu
[21:43] <GMH> i can just get them using aptitude, right?
[21:43] <ohsix> guntbert: i'm not being impolite
[21:43] <Guest76795> right?
[21:43] <Yerushalmi> I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and a bunch of updates came in two days ago. After installing them and rebooting, my desktop no longer comes up: I get the upper bar, but the main screen keeps cycling between my desktop background and all white. Opening Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D works, though. Anyone know what this is?
[21:43] <ardchoille> GMH: Well, fluxbox is quite nice as a wm for older systems
[21:43] <ardchoille> haven't used ob in years
[21:43] <ohsix> KM0201: you're blaming a person when you don't even know what you're talking about; you get that part at least, right?
[21:44] <KM0201> ohsix: i get that you don't have a clue.
[21:44] <KM0201> ohsix: i suggest you scroll back
[21:44] <W4RH4WK> GMH, as i said, i'd recommend xfce, lighter than gnome and not so lightweight than fluxbox / openbox
[21:44] <ohsix> KM0201: ad hominem
[21:44] <bc81> lubuntu
[21:44] <ohsix> KM0201: i was here when the question was fielded
[21:44] <guntbert> KM0201: ohsix: please drop that quarreling
[21:44] <KM0201> guntbert: it was dropped a while ago, then eh started his personal attack.
[21:44] <Guest76795> #python
[21:44] <GMH> well, here's my comptuer's stats: 1.4 GHz processor (I think. it's 1.something), 256 MB ram, it's from 2003, an IBM T40.
[21:44] <bc81> !lubuntu | GMH
[21:44] <ohsix> alright, now i'm positive you're just trolling
[21:45] <KM0201> ohsix: whatever.. just another thing you're wrong about
[21:45] <elfranne> http://pastebin.com/R0Hidx59 what have i done wrong with my smb.conf ? i can only see public but i can  even not  write in it  ?
[21:45] <ohsix> you started the personal attacks and talk of "logic" being on your side when you demonstrated you didn't have the information you needed to make such a statement
[21:45] <GMH> what version and window manager would you suggest for a computer like that?
[21:45] <ardchoille> GMH: Try XFCE, LXDE when you get a chance, you  might like them as desktop envs
[21:45] <ohsix> KM0201: you're good :]
[21:45] <ThinkT510> GMH: i'd reccommend xubuntu, I got a T40 running that nicely
[21:45] <KM0201> ohsix: i know
[21:45] <genii-around> GMH: For specs like that, you are better off with LXDE or XFCE desktop ( lubuntu or xubuntu )
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> GMH: just install lxde, you don't need the full desktop as you already have apps. You will have duplicate apps installed
[21:45] <ohsix> KM0201: i respect that, but it doesn't exactly help people, which is what i'm here to do
[21:45] <soulslayer> hey guys does anyone here make lm-sensors work with core i7Q ?
[21:45] <GMH> oh, so i dont need to trash everything and install lubuntu, i can just install lxde?
[21:46] <KM0201> ohsix: helping and misleading is different
[21:46] <ardchoille> GMH: right
[21:46] <scarface> Where do I look on my server to see the ssh key that is presented to clients?  When I try to ssh into my server, the client asks me to accept the server's key and shows me some hex value.  Where on the server can I find that?
[21:46] <GMH> okay.  so does that mean that most of the memory hogging is due to gnome rather than to ubuntu itself?
[21:46] <ohsix> KM0201: indeed, i guess that explains both our roles here
[21:46] <W4RH4WK> elfranne, first of all, you only had the [ and ] at public not at the other shares
[21:46] <ardchoille> GMH: apt-cache search -n lxde
[21:46] <jsw_> Thank you guys for your help earlier.  My machine is working well now.  If I may ask one more question .. I seem to have an NFS UID mismatch going on between my two machines now, and I am not sure why.  I am not supplying anonuid/anongid in /etc/exports or anything, and the UIDs of my user on the teo boxes are both 1000.
[21:46] <W4RH4WK> that's why only public is present
[21:47] <W4RH4WK> elfranne, u need to add [pics] for example
[21:47] <ardchoille> GMH: gnome is nice, but for older systems lxde or xfce are faster and have smaller footprints
[21:47] <GMH> ardchoille: Will do that after i boot into Ubuntu Desktop Edition.
[21:47] <W4RH4WK> elfranne, the line starting with # is just a comment, it's ignored by the smb daemon
[21:47] <zoffix_> Hi. Is there an easy way to change resolution using command line command? I ran an app that changed resolution to super-high. I killed the app, but resolution remained. Now my monitor is crying that input is not supported, but I don't want to kill my X session as I have some important stuff running.
[21:47] <GMH> and yeah, gnome seems nice though i just can't run crap
[21:47] <ardchoille> GMH: you can do apt-cache searches from a term in any env
[21:47] <KM0201> ardchoille: i like lxde.. frankly, i think the line between xfce and gnome is a bit blurred, in terms of which is "lighter".. both are fairly bloated, especially w/ Ubuntu.
[21:47] <GMH> ardchoille: but i wasn't connected to the itnernet
[21:48] <elfranne> W4RH4WK oh thx  ill try that
[21:48] <ardchoille> GMH: Ah, ok
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: amen, xubuntu is putting on the pounds these days
[21:48] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i know.. kinda disappointing really, but lxde is slick...
[21:48] <W4RH4WK> elfranne, i got a pretty good test config here, i'll post it, just a moment
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Yerushalmi, try rebooting into the recovery kernel and holding shift key down to bring up the grub menu, then you get a dialog box , choose "fix broken packages" afterwards "reboot normally" , it could be you graphics driver is problematic
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: its all I use, more RAM for apps
[21:48] <ohsix> do you guys actually measure the impact of what you insist is happening or just bloviate about the dire sadness of the situation
[21:48] <KM0201> yup.
[21:48] <GMH> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-cache?
[21:48] <needlez> lsusb
[21:48] <needlez> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0846:9010 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100(v1) 802.11n [Atheros AR9001U-(2)NG]
[21:48] <needlez>  anyone know why this card won't work when plugged in?? it used
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: ok what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[21:48] <elfranne> W4RH4WK great !
[21:49] <Yerushalmi> BluesKaj: I actually already tried that, no good.
[21:49] <GMH> and what's the -n for?
[21:49] <W4RH4WK> elfranne, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569343/
[21:49] <ardchoille> GMH: aptitude has a gui, apt-cache is just a single command
[21:49] <ohsix> GMH: aptitude is a dpkg frontend, apt is as welll; apt-cache is part of the apt set of tools that searches package descriptions, aptitude can do the same thing
[21:49] <ardchoille> GMH: with apt-cache search, the "-n" searches package names only
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> needlez: use ndisgtk and the windows driver
[21:49] <jsw_> I think it is very subjective, what is "bloat," and what is an "older machine."  My machine is 4 years old and I am still happy with it (much to the dismay of PC-makers, I bet.)
[21:49] <GMH> oh okay.
[21:49] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: :02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[21:49] <ohsix> GMH: in aptitude you press / and just start searching :D (at least for names, that is)
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: ok and what is the issue you are having?
[21:50] <needlez> ActionParsnip: I want to use it for aircrack-ng so that wont work,
[21:50] <ardchoille> GMH: narrows the search down nicely
[21:50] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: er, stick a 00 in front of that :)
[21:50] <ohsix> GMH:then you can press n to go to the next match
[21:50] <GMH> ohsix: i thought aptitude could be used in command line as well
[21:50] <KM0201> jsw_: this is true.. i use Gnoem on a 6yr old laptop, and it runs great... so you're right, it's all about perspective
[21:50] <GMH> at least, i was doing that last night lol
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: thats fine, thats just the bus ;)
[21:50] <BluesKaj> Yerushalmi, have you tried installing the recommended driver in admin/hardware?
[21:50] <macs> Yay :D
[21:50] <GMH> okay, found lxde, lxde-common, lxde-core, lxde-icon-theme, lxde-settings-daemon
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> needlez: then I'd grab a device KNOWN to work. USB wifi is dead cheap
[21:50] <GMH> how many of those should i be installing?
[21:50] <W4RH4WK> elfranne, i also recommend having a look at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html
[21:50] <jsw_> Also, before this box, my last one I bought in 1998.  So it lasted me 9 years!
[21:51] <ohsix> GMH: it can, but not ot confuse things, use what you know or are being asked to use
[21:51] <needlez> ActionParsnip: this does work with ubuntu, it works oob, and is atheros AR9 chipset
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: so what is your issue?
[21:51] <LjL> !info lubuntu-desktop | GMH i haven't really followed the conversation, but maybe this is what you really want?
[21:51] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Basically, ever since last night's installation, when the computer boots up the regular overlay of buttons doesn't show up
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> needlez: then grab the driver as atheros support linux well, you may need to patch the driver
[21:51] <GMH> LjL: Yes, this is what people have been recommending to me.  I'm about to grab lxde.
[21:51] <ardchoille> GMH: install lxde, it's a met package, meaning it will pull in everything needed
[21:51] <needlez> ActionParsnip: but for some reason when ever i plug in any usb wireless card its not found like something went wrong with my compat-wireless
[21:51] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Er, two nights ago, that is. Everything else works fine - keyboard commands bring up Terminal. The upper bar with the time is still there. Even the little black box that appears to let me know battery and network status works.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: can you define "regular overlay of buttons" please
[21:52] <GMH> oh, that's what meta-package means.  thanks.
[21:52] <GMH> so that's just "apt-get lxde"?
[21:52] <LjL> GMH: lubuntu-desktop is also a meta-package for that matter
[21:52] <ardchoille> GMH: yep, meta packages pull in required dependencies
[21:52] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I just have my desktop background. No series of "Favorites, Files & Folders, Accessories, etc." buttons down the side.
[21:52] <GMH> LjL: How does it differ from getting lxde by itself?
[21:52] <W4RH4WK> GMH, "apt-get install lxde"
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> GMH: just install lxde, log off, click your username, select lxde at the bottom, then log in
[21:52] <ardchoille> GMH: sudo apt-get install lxde
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> !panels | Yerushalmi
[21:53] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: And the desktop background doesn't stay there. It blinks all white every second or so. Sometimes faster, sometimes a lot slower.
[21:53] <ardchoille> LjL: yes, thank you
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: does that command help?
[21:53] <GMH> okay, installing lxde
[21:53] <GMH> brb, bathroom
[21:53] <LjL> GMH: i'm not sure in this specific case, but in general -desktop packages do two things: 1) bring in more packages (like office suites and the like)  2) bring in things that make it a *buntu thing rather than the standard desktop environment
[21:53] <W4RH4WK> GMH, good luck (with the bathroom thing)^^
[21:53] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I'll have to log out and log back in again to test that - I'm in 2D mode right now.
[21:53] <kyan> How can I uninstall openjdk without installing sun's jre?
[21:53] <ardchoille> GMH: as LjL pointed out, you might want to install lubuntu-desktop to get all of lxde installed in one go
[21:53] <GMH> hahahaha
[21:54] <GMH> oh, i'm already in the midst of lxde installing
[21:54] <W4RH4WK> :P
[21:54] <GMH> though i guess if i install lubuntu will it just figure out what i already have and skip that?
[21:54] <ardchoille> GMH: no worries, you can go back and install lubuntu-desktop if you want
[21:54] <kyan> Synaptic seems to be trying to force me to install sun's jre when I remove openjdk.
[21:54] <ardchoille> GMH: yes
[21:54] <ohsix> kyan: if something has a jre in their dependencies one will need to be installed, theres more than sun's and openjdk but i have no experience with their use; if you want to remove them all you'll have to remove the package that depends on having a jre around as well
[21:54] <J697> Ok, a really old computer of mine(only has a 60 GB hard drive) has a big problem. I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and everything seems well and good, although I can't use wireless and I connected the ethernet cable and then tried to install updates and it did not work! It gave me a error of some sort when it was installing (it downloaded it fine) and I went to Disk Utility and it said "The disk has a few bad sectors", I scrolled down and it said "value: 1", so I
[21:54] <J697> am guessing that there are one bad sector(s), whatever that means and I am wondering is wireless possible for this computer?
[21:54] <LjL> GMH: sure
[21:55] <GMH> because i know i already have the basic suite of ubuntu stuff
[21:55] <GMH> like, openoffice nad such
[21:55] <GMH> *and
[21:55] <kyan> ohsix: Ah. Is there a way I can do a search to determine what depends on them?
[21:55] <LjL> GMH: APT takes care of all that. it will never reinstall things that are already installed
[21:55] <kyan> (sorry, I'm a bit of a noob to Linux)
[21:55] <GMH> kyan: don't worry; so am i
[21:55] <LjL> kyan: apt-cache rdepends packagename
[21:56] <ardchoille> We were all noobs at one point :)
[21:56] <kyan> LjL: Thanks!
[21:56] <GMH> also, i'm starting to see the usefulness in having apt figure out everything that's already on the computer
[21:56] <kyan> True :-)
[21:56] <ohsix> kyan: the packagename you're looking for is default-jre
[21:56] <bc81> J697: you check your HDD for errors.  run this, then reboot >>  sudo touch /forcefsck
[21:56]  * GMH has been a lifelong windows user, mainly out of custom; /me dislikes the mac interface lol
[21:56] <W4RH4WK> J697, yes, it is, having bad sectors will is bad for your system due to data loss / corruption, but the hardware support won't be affected
[21:56] <ardchoille> GMH: may I pm you?
[21:56] <GMH> yes, but i'm actually going to go to the bathroom now
[21:57] <GMH> brb in a few minutes
[21:57] <soulslayer> hello all im trying to setup lm-sensors
[21:57] <soulslayer> on dell xps 501x
[21:57] <soulslayer> with core i7Q
[21:57] <soulslayer> i try the last release
[21:57] <J697> bc81, ok rebooting now
[21:58] <guntbert> !enter | soulslayer
[21:58] <soulslayer> i try the perl script changes that was sugested .. but still without any luck can some one give me a hand here (sorry about the caps)
[21:58] <ohsix> how can i get update-manager to quit putting the red triangle in my notification area and bothering me about an update, i already told it to never check; but about every 10 days it still shows up, and by that time i've actually updated my package sources several times using aptitude
[21:59] <soulslayer> remove the notification icon from the panel ohsix
[21:59] <ohsix> haha that's not the greatest solution there
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: please ease up on the enter key you can write very long lines which I am showing you right now. This doesn't scroll the channel but you also don't sound out of breath
[21:59] <wolf> idel
[21:59] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, i think i handle that and excuse already .. am i ?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: can you use a pastebin to give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade      Thansk
[22:00] <J697> Ok, I ran sudo touch /forcefck
[22:00] <J697> now what?
[22:00] <KB1JWQ> fsck, not fck
[22:00] <Guest97623> who know how to edit a statment in IDEL
[22:00] <Guest97623> ??
[22:00] <colluphid> Hey everyone, I noticed my network actvity monitor going crazy today so I opened up etherape and it was showing hundreds of connections.  This is happening everytime I start ubuntu.  Does anyone know what this could be?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> !sensors
[22:00] <KB1JWQ> Guest97623: Apparently "not you."  What's your real question?
[22:00] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i'm just concerned with the icon, there are no pending package updates
[22:00] <J697> KB1JWQ, what does this command do?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: most times the defaults are fine
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: maybe but you may have added repos which don't have the GPG key
[22:00] <KB1JWQ> J697: Forces a fsck on next reboot, generally.
[22:01] <Guest97623> i wanna edit a command in python interpreter
[22:01] <ohsix> but i'll give you the pertinent information from the last command; 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:01] <Guest97623> how can i do that ?
[22:01] <J697> KB1JWQ, sorry, what is fsck?
[22:01] <KB1JWQ> J697: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[22:01] <LjL> !fsck | J697
[22:01] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip,  i know but thats not the case sensors-detect does not detect any devices and the default configuration returns me output as a single core machine
[22:01] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: they all do; update succeeds as does checking the integrity of the packages
[22:01] <ohsix> bbl
[22:01] <Docfxit> How can I tell if the Ubuntu I am running is 32bit or 64bit?
[22:02] <J697> KB1JWQ, what is the point of running it?
[22:02] <ohsix> Docfxit: uname -a
[22:02] <J697> Here is my situation:
[22:02] <Oer> Docfxit, terminal: arch
[22:02] <voidmage> does ubuntu support 4kb sector hard drives? i haven't bought a new hard drive in 2 years
[22:02] <J697> Ok, a really old computer of mine(only has a 60 GB hard drive) has a big problem. I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and everything seems well and good, although I can't use wireless and I connected the ethernet cable and then tried to install updates and it did not work! It gave me a error of some sort when it was installing (it downloaded it fine) and I went to Disk Utility and it said "The disk has a few bad sectors", I scrolled down and it said "value: 1", so I
[22:02] <Docfxit> ohsix, Thank you.
[22:02] <J697> *so I guess that means only one sector is bad
[22:02] <ohsix> voidmage: it does, all the formatting tools will partition it with the proper alignment and stuff as well
[22:02] <LjL> J697, no matter what, if you tell people here - as you're doing - that your hard drive seems to be corrupted/bad, what they'll do is instruct you to diagnose it.
[22:03] <Guest97623> how i can do it
[22:03] <voidmage> ohsix: so it'll just work out of the box in 10.10?
[22:03] <Guest97623> ??
[22:03] <MohammadAG> seriously, why does something like gnome-sanity-check block login...
[22:03] <ohsix> voidmage: it should, if the drive does; some drives have 4k sectors but they're locked to only show 512b sectors to the host
[22:03] <J697> LjL, I did the command and It checked for something on boot and i didnt look at it really
[22:04] <Docfxit> uname -a returns ubuntu 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:34:50 UTC 2010 i686
[22:04] <xcfdjSe7en> so there is no way of booting Ubuntu Netbook from a USB drive other than the tool that comes with Ubuntu ?
[22:04] <LjL> J697: as long as it completed without dropping you to a shell, that's not too bad.
[22:04] <Docfxit> arch returns i686
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: do you have the latest BIOS?
[22:04] <soulslayer> yes
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: so no GPG key errors?
[22:04] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: none
[22:04] <KM0201> J697: whats the wireless device?
[22:04] <trijntje> xcfdjSe7en, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: if you run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano     is it smooth?
[22:05] <soulslayer> i think my motherboard is not supported by lm-sensors but im not quite sure does anybody knows other similar packege that can dump that info ?
[22:05] <xcfdjSe7en> trijntje, Unetbootin didnt work , neither did "dd"
[22:05] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: there is no problem aside from the icon, i think it shows up because aptd is trying to do an update but the db is locked by an already running package manager
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: if you run: less /proc/cpuinfo    do you see the chip correctly?
[22:05] <Docfxit> Is i686 supposed to tell me that it is 32bit or 64bit?
[22:05] <VCoolio> Docfxit: that means 32 bit
[22:05] <xcfdjSe7en> anyone ?
[22:05] <LjL> Docfxit: 32
[22:05] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip,
[22:05] <soulslayer> yes i see it corectly
[22:05] <soulslayer> anything is ok
[22:05] <Docfxit> VCoolio, Thanks.
[22:06] <ashish> how to dynamically allocate an array of structs?
[22:06] <soulslayer> i can make frequency scalling
[22:06] <ashish> in C
[22:06] <J697> KM0201, what do you mean? The security? or what?
[22:06] <soulslayer> and all
[22:06] <soulslayer> but i can't detect the sensors
[22:06] <KM0201> J697: no, what device, you say its not working.. so what is the wireless device you're trying to get working
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: there is the 1-2-3 app from pendrivelinux if you have a windows PC handy. Remember to MD5 test the ISO you are using first
[22:06] <drc> xcfdjSe7en: is your computer actually able to boot from USB at all?
[22:06] <soulslayer> and ... the sensors are not connected with the cpu becouse they are located on the motherboard
[22:06] <soulslayer> ..
[22:06] <J697> KM0201, my computer
[22:06] <LjL> ashish: best to ask in ##c
[22:06] <xcfdjSe7en> drc, it is for sure
[22:06] <GMH> back
[22:06] <VCoolio> Docfxit: for 64 bit it would say x86_64
[22:06] <KM0201> J697: huh?
[22:06] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, I'm not on Windows
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: are there any bugs logged for your motherboard model with regards to sensors?
[22:07] <J697> KM0201, wireless internet?
[22:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: it would be cool if the wubi autorun thing had the ability to also copy the iso to a flash drive
[22:07] <ashish> LjL, unable to connect to that channel
[22:07] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, a linux tool would be great
[22:07] <KM0201> J697: didn't you say you had a wireless problem you were trying to diagnose? maybe i confused you w/ someone else
[22:07] <ashish> LjL, are u able to?
[22:07] <soulslayer> nope at least i cant find any
[22:07] <soulslayer> i think they are just not supported
[22:07] <LjL> ashish: yes. you need to be identified
[22:07] <LjL> !register > ashish    (ashish, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:07] <GMH> the lubuntu desktop environment is lubuntu-desktop, right? as in, it includes all its dependencies?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: i said "IF you have a windows PC handy", read what I write, not what you think I write
[22:07] <J697> KM0201, My computer won't connect to the wireless internet is my problem
[22:07] <GMH> or does apt-get also check for dependencies?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: there is unetbootin in the repo
[22:07] <LjL> GMH: apt-get certainly does check for dependencies
[22:07] <KM0201> J697: ok.. so... what is your wireless device, jesus..
[22:07] <ohsix> GMH: it does satisfy dependencies yes
[22:08] <needlez> anyone got any ideas why a USB wireless card that works out of the box is no longer working when I plug it in
[22:08] <wolfric> what sort of options should i put in for my external hard drive into fstab?
[22:08] <J697> KM0201, a router
[22:08] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, Unetbootin didnt work
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: i dislike wubi personally so won't comment there
[22:08] <KM0201> ...
[22:08] <ohsix> GMH: it really does mostly just that, and tells dpkg what to do with the files & stuff it gets
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: then use usb-creator
[22:08] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: well wubi or not, the disk has a windows autorun, it should have a way to create a usb startup disk
[22:08] <bc81> J697: i believe he's asking specifics (make, model...that sort of thing)
[22:08] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, I'm not under Ubuntu atm
[22:08] <J697> bc81, well then I don't have a clue
[22:09] <Docfxit> I need to download an application.  It gives me two choices qt or gtk2.  What is the difference?
[22:09] <GMH> is it better for me using a computer with low amounts of ram to get lubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-core, or does it make no difference?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: if you grab the img file you can use dd, did you MD5 test the ISO you are using?
[22:09] <VCoolio> wolfric: depends; do you want to mount automatically, and to a specific folder, and grant rights to all users
[22:09] <J697> bc81, I ran that command
[22:09] <bc81> !details | J697
[22:09]  * GMH just installed lxde, fyi
[22:09] <needlez> J697: type lspci | grep -i network and post output
[22:09] <ohsix> dd'ing an iso to a flash drive isn't going to do what people expect
[22:09] <needlez> or lsusb if usb
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> GMH: you can install lubuntu-desktop and get lighter apps than the gnome ones
[22:09] <VCoolio> Docfxit: different widget libraries, gtk2 is gnome, qt is kde, stick with one kind if possible
[22:09]  * KM0201 is putting lxde on a thumb drive now.. been a while since i tried it, and my laptop is bordering ancient
[22:09] <drc> Docfxit: you using GNOME or KDE?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: its an img, not an iso
[22:09] <ohsix> they boot completely differently and iso9660 isn't something that the bios is actually going to check for on stuff that aren't optical drives
[22:09] <guntbert> Docfxit: isn't the app in the repositories?
[22:09] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: ok
[22:10] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, yes tested .. and "dd" didnt work too , should it be an "img" file to be able to boot though , 'cause I tried it with an ISO
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: again, READ what I write
[22:10] <GMH> ActionParsnip: okay, so perhaps i'll just do that now and then logout/log back into lubuntu
[22:10] <J697> ubottu, I already have ;)
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> GMH: sounds good
[22:10] <qebab> ubottu: give yourself more credit
[22:10] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: well i dunno how you expect me to disambiguate "img" in such a way when as far as i know the user consumables are isos
[22:11] <bc81> lol
[22:11] <GMH> hahaha @ ubottu
[22:11]  * GMH made the noob mistake of responding to a PM from ubottu earlier, lol
[22:11]  * GMH failed a spot check
[22:11] <ohsix> GMH: what are you actually trying to achieve with lubuntu? just a change of scenery?
[22:12] <J697> needlez, I get "00:12:0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)"
[22:12] <ashish> clear
[22:12] <Docfxit> VCoolio, Thanks.  I'm using gnome.
[22:12] <ardchoille> ohsix: he has an older system that runs gnome really slow
[22:12] <sonic> www.youtube.co
[22:12] <jkg> I've recently installed Maverick on my laptop, which shipped with Win7. the wifi is ... flakey, won't connect in the office, often drops at home. I see lots of "CPU power or thermal limit exceeded" in dmesg around the times it's flaking out... could this be related, and if so, what does it mean? (the machine isn't running hot, and this happens from almost immediately after I'm logged in and trying to connect to wifi)
[22:12] <drc> Docfxit: as VCoolio said, then use GTK
[22:12] <needlez> ok, thats the wireless card that you have then tell him that
[22:12] <sonic> www.youtube.com
[22:12] <Docfxit> guntbert, no.  It doesn't seem to be.
[22:12] <VCoolio> Docfxit: ok, then use the gtk2 one; qt works too but sticking with gtk will keep things the same
[22:12] <LjL> sonic: what about it?
[22:13] <J697> KM0201, "00:12:0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)"
[22:13] <ohsix> ardchoille: shrug there might be cheaper and less impactful solutions
[22:13] <GMH> ohsix: 256 MB 1.3 or 1.4 GHz ram
[22:13] <GMH> 2003 laptop
[22:13] <Bogus8> Anyone in here have experience installing wavemaker?
[22:13] <KM0201> brb... hopefully on lubuntu..lol
[22:13] <ohsix> GMH: ahhh, severely low amounts of ram
[22:13] <jkg> (typical but unexciting, uninformative dmesg output sample is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/569352/)
[22:13] <ardchoille> ohsix: we gave him alternatives, he's trying them to see which is best for him
[22:13] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, no idea ?
[22:13] <J697> KM0201!
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: its a raw data image of data which you can use dd to the raw usb device and use, ISO files have headers and other data
[22:13] <ohsix> GMH: i don't think switching to lubuntu is going to get you all the way on that; finding extra ram alone would solve a lot of problems regardless of the size
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: did you test your RAM?
[22:14] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what's a raw data image? the squashfs file on the cd? the casper file?
[22:14] <ashish> If we dynamically allocate structures in C, do they stay throughout the life of the program?
[22:14] <bc81> GMH: you check out damn small linux, puppy, feather etc?
[22:14] <ashish> I mean can I access them throughout the program
[22:14] <xcfdjSe7en> ActionParsnip, everything works trust me , I even booted that same exact ISO on a virtual box and worked
[22:14] <GMH> bc81: never heard fo theo ther two; barely heard of damn small linux and no, i haevn't checked it out yet
[22:14] <qebab> ashish: they stay until they are deallocated
[22:15] <ohsix> bc81: even running nothing will be a problem when you try and browse the web or do anything really :\
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> xcfdjSe7en: well then if everything works, it must be fine right?
[22:15] <J697> bc81, would I have better luck with internet on a smaller linux variant?
[22:15] <piotrek> siema głomby
[22:15] <GMH> gdm = gnome, right?
[22:15] <piotrek> CZEŚĆ JEŁOPY CO U WAS
[22:15] <ashish> qebab, and if they are created in a function which is called from a main function , do they still remain allocated?
[22:15] <LjL> GMH: it's the Gnome Display Manager - the login screen
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: its the data which would be on the USB after you create it, like a drive image
[22:15] <GMH> okay
[22:15] <LjL> !cz | piotrek
[22:15] <ohsix> GMH: you can try looking at the output of smem and see what's contributing to actual memory use, and just remove or use those parts differently; the web browser dwarfs everything on any machine i've had since about 2005
[22:15] <GMH> okay, then i'm choosing lxdm.  this is in a "configuring lxdm" screen, saying that only one thing can do one x server at a time or something.
[22:16] <guntbert> !pl | piotrek
[22:16] <piotrek> co ty pierdolisz czechu?
[22:16] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: right, but i'm not sure where you're speaking about getting it, or producing it
[22:16] <xcfdjSe7en> just want to know if there is another Live USB creator that is compatible with Ubuntu Netbook Edition other than usb-creator , Unetbootin , "dd"
[22:16] <GMH> ohsix: oh yes, i've been using epiphany because firefox just makes everything crazily slow.
[22:16] <qebab> ashish: if they are created with malloc() or similar, they stay until free() is used on them
[22:16] <qebab> ashish: this is a question for #C though
[22:16] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: doesn't your distro have a package for usb-creator-(gtk|kde) ?
[22:16] <ashish> qebab, I cant connect to that, I have registered and everything
[22:17] <ashish> qebab, just cant connect
[22:17] <ashish> but this somehow answers my question
[22:17] <ashish> thanks
[22:17] <guntbert> ashish: you are not identified
[22:17] <Pnux> hey, whats a good place to put some user created bash scripts so they wont mess the real OS, but still being able to execute from a terminal?
[22:17] <ohsix> GMH: hm, you might try chrome, it gets updates more often and uses the same browsing engine; but you'll still be severely limited in what you can do at any speed even if you remove everything with only 256mb of ram
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: may help http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[22:17] <ashish> guntbert, I was able to connect earlier today, just not now
[22:17] <wl_deav> hows about /home Pnux?
[22:17] <ardchoille> Pnux: create a folder ~/bin and put them there
[22:17] <LjL> Pnux: depends... ~/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/ may be candidates
[22:17] <wl_deav> though directory alone won't give you any kind of security or control Pnux
[22:18] <guntbert> ashish: you need to identify with services
[22:18] <Pnux> oh nice.. didnt know that, thans ashish, wl_deav and ljL
[22:18] <bc81> J697: not necessarily, it will be more hassle in the long run.  run this and see if you have any blocks >> rfkill list
[22:18] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: right but i'm trying to connect up the thread where you would have had me believe, and be in the wrong; about having an filesystem in the first place thats appropriate to be put directly on a drive
[22:18] <xcfdjSe7en> ohsix, if usb-creator is the only tool that is able to boot Ubuntu Netbook E ,than I guess I have no other option but installing that tool
[22:18] <guntbert> !identify | ashish
[22:18] <xcfdjSe7en> anyway , thank you very much ActionParsnip and ohsix for the help , I really appreciate it
[22:19] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: it's not the only way, but it's one way that works well and people have actually used without trouble; you installed unetbootin already didn't you? what's the diff? :]
[22:19] <Docfxit> The app I'm trying to install is doublecmd.  I downloaded it from the web page.  I selected Software Center to install it.  Software Center says it installed.  When I select it from Applications , Accessories it doesn't run.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: img file, different to ISO
[22:19] <xcfdjSe7en> ohsix, Unetbootin doesnt boot at all
[22:19] <Abinadi> !sound
[22:19] <J697> bc81, I got "0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no"
[22:19] <Docfxit> If I run it from terminal I get an error saying: doublecmd: error while loading shared libraries: libhal.so.1: cannot open shared
[22:19] <ohsix> ... alright, and they don't have them for mav or lucid or anything since jaunty?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: not sure but I know it could, its a different way to store the installer image
[22:20] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: i know, i was just saying; you installed that already to try and get it to work (and in my experience it doesn't work!) what's the problem with installing usb-creator for the same reason
[22:20] <Docfxit> I'm running from a USB thumbdrive with persistence
[22:20] <StukaBR> Hi,
[22:20] <xcfdjSe7en> I find it weird though , 'cause I used Unetbootin and "dd" for all my distros , and I encounter no issues at all
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: and uses dd (or another tool) to put the image on the usb
[22:20] <StukaBR> what's the best version of ubuntu?
[22:20] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: right,  but you need the image :\
[22:20] <Somelauw> Is it possible that evince wastes a lot of memory.
[22:21] <wl_deav> for what StukaBR?
[22:21] <Somelauw> My computer is hanging a lot when viewing pdf's.
[22:21] <StukaBR> domestical use
[22:21] <StukaBR> private use'
[22:21] <ThinkT510> !info xpdf
[22:21] <J697> bc81, I got "0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no"
[22:21] <ardchoille> StukaBR: Ubuntu 10.10
[22:21] <jenia> How do I configure gnome, so that it starts in compiz mode instead of me starting it every time, when I load gnome?
[22:21] <StukaBR> Is the version 10.10 stable?
[22:21] <wl_deav> desktop PC, laptop, netbook? StukaBR
[22:21] <StukaBR> laptop
[22:21] <_skpl> jenia: startup applications. in the preferences menu
[22:21] <guntbert> StukaBR: all released versions are stable
[22:21] <Somelauw> 10.10 is stable
[22:21] <ardchoille> StukaBR: I found it very stable
[22:21] <StukaBR> ok
[22:21] <StukaBR> thanks
[22:22] <bc81> J697: sorry, i can't help you.  try the forums, you might have better luck there
[22:22] <StukaBR> I already have the 9 point something but i'm thinking to give install another one
[22:22] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: i've only used netbootin to stuff vista/xp on usb drives; i had usb-creator already available to do anyhting else
[22:22] <StukaBR> because i use the windows and ubuntu
[22:22] <Somelauw> Was /!pdf directed to me?
[22:22] <StukaBR> now, i'm thinkin to only use the ubuntu
[22:22] <StukaBR> thinking'
[22:22] <needlez> J697: does your card still not work?
[22:23] <J697> needlez, nope
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> jenia: in the startup items, add a new item to run:  compiz --replace     should be fine
[22:23] <intok> Whats the most pain free way to multiboot ubuntu, debian squeeze and Mac OS X? My /home is on it's own partition already.
[22:23] <mbeierl> is it possible to manage an ipod's songs under ubuntu if the ipod is at version 4.2.1?  I've done it before with an ipod at 4.1, but with the same model at 4.2.1 the procedure does not work
[22:23] <ThinkT510> Somelauw: its a lightwieght pdf reader, i like it
[22:23] <xcfdjSe7en> ohsix, usb-creator only worked for Ubuntu / Ubuntu based dists .. I find iy very bizarre
[22:23] <J697> Although I am about to install fedora linux
[22:23] <needlez> J697: have you tried to use ndiswrapper to get it working??
[22:23] <xcfdjSe7en> for me I mean
[22:23] <jenia> _skpl: Isn't it going to load compiz after metacity loads in gnome? what I need is start already in compiz, instead of loading it after loading to gnome.
[22:23] <J697> what is that?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: does rhythmnbox not do it?
[22:23] <ohsix> xcfdjSe7en: shrug, works with ISOs
[22:23] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: No.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | mbeierl
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: thats all I know on iPods
[22:24] <GMH> lubuntu installed; now logging out and back in
[22:24] <needlez> ndiswrapper can use the windows xp drivers to run the card, you might try that
[22:24] <ledbettj> I have a (new) wireless mini pcie card in my laptop; it never seems to show up on boot, only if i force a pci rescan from /sys/bus/pci/rescan ; after that it works fine -- any ideas what could be happening?
[22:24] <jenia> ActionParsnip: But that will load compiz after metacity loads in gnome? what I need is start already in compiz, instead of loading it after loading to gnome.
[22:24] <ohsix> mbeierl: is the ipod plugin actually turned on in rhythmbox? (you can check in the prefs)
[22:24] <hosoka> hello, where are the pictures of the wallpaper stored by default ?
[22:24] <J697> needlez, Windows is no longer installed though
[22:24] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: thanks.  been there done that.  Works for the earlier 4.1 ios, but with Apple's latest 4.2.1 does not  appear to work
[22:24] <Guest76795> what i need to learn programming
[22:24] <ed___> does anyone know how to use PXE to install a linux distro from an iso to a netbook?
[22:24] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: No good. The command redrew all my open windows but didn't restore my desktop. (It took me a while to get to the point where I could run the command, heh)
[22:24] <mbeierl> ohsix: double checking now...
[22:24] <Guest76795> advices ?
[22:25] <ohsix> mbeierl: as of 10.10 all the proper bits are there, so it should work
[22:25] <Jordan_U> xcfdjSe7en: In what way did it nor work? What *did* happen?
[22:25] <Somelauw> ThinkT510: Does it work on all pdf's? For windows I like sumatra as pdf reader, but it can't open some pdf's.
[22:25] <JQQ> Any reason I should go with 9.* or 10.4 instead of 10.10?
[22:25] <mbeierl> ohsix: what would the plugin be called.  Sorry - I had only tried gtkpod and banshee I guestt I didn't check for the plugin for rhythmbox
[22:26] <VCoolio> Guest76795: a pc, a task and a chosen language, I'd say python, c or bash
[22:26] <mbeierl> ohsix: portable players - iPod?
[22:26] <VCoolio> Guest76795: and a manual, to be easily found on the web
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  nautils
[22:26] <ohsix> mbeierl: yea
[22:26] <GMH> i've got three choices
[22:26] <schock> hi. I'm installing 10.10 on a sony vaio VPCZ1
[22:26] <GMH> lubuntu, lubuntu netbook, and LXDE
[22:26] <GMH> which one should i pick?
[22:26] <ThinkT510> Somelauw: works on the ones i read, but i must admit i don't read many pdfs, usually just the manual for virtualbox
[22:27] <schock> i almost had the nvidia grpahics card working
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Yerushalmi: ActionParsnip: "nautilus"
[22:27] <ohsix> GMH: pick them all, if oyu have the HD space, then try em on for size
[22:27] <schock> but now things are hosed :(
[22:27] <s5fs_away> JQQ: I'd go with 10.10.
[22:27] <schock> anyone have experience with this?
[22:27] <ThinkT510> Somelauw: you could always try installing sumatrapdf in wine
[22:27] <ohsix> GMH: i suspect you still won't get much satisfaction from any of them
[22:27] <GMH> ohsix: i meant that i already have them installed.  though i guess your answer still applies.
[22:27] <mbeierl> ohsix: what's the m4a plugin for rhythbox called...?  "None of the tracks are in a format supported... etc"
[22:27] <ardchoille> JQQ: 10.04 is a LTS release, supported for 3 years on the desktop
[22:27] <piotrek> I'm from Nokia people and I answer on your questions. Please give me Questions..
[22:27] <ohsix> GMH: ya, you can pick which one to run at the bottom of the login screen
[22:27] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: No good; Nautilus doesn't work for me and hasn't for weeks. Although I've discovered that it *does* work in UNE2D. Maybe there's a connection?
[22:28]  * GMH picks Lubuntu
[22:28] <Somelauw> The pdf I am trying to view contains a ridiculous amount of images. Could that be a problem?
[22:28] <Chipzzz> hosoka: /usr/share/backgrounds
[22:28] <schock> piotrek: wtf is nokia thinking partnering with winblows instead of android :P
[22:28] <ohsix> mbeierl: you need to look to gstreamer for that, i just install all the plugin packages so i don't know which one in particular would fix just that; some are in the universe repository and you'll have to enable it
[22:28] <sneakyimp> Does anyone know how to disable DNS cache in firefox?
[22:28] <ThinkT510> Somelauw: try it out and see, you can always uninstall it later
[22:28] <Somelauw> ThinkT510: Yes, but that will probably be slower and more space consuming because wine needs to do extra work.
[22:28] <piotrek> I love Microsoft windows an I hate Linux and Unix and others shitos!
[22:28] <guntbert> !language | schock
[22:28] <intok> Whats the most pain free way to multiboot ubuntu, debian squeeze and Mac OS X? I've already got OS X and Deb installed, my /home is on it's own partition already.
[22:28] <sneakyimp> schock: good question
[22:28] <xcfdjSe7en> Jordan_U, shows that orange screen with "default " and counting down .. and everytime it reaches 0 it just restarts over the countdown
[22:29] <sneakyimp> schock: i hear there was money involved
[22:29] <bc81> lol piotrek
[22:29] <guntbert> !ot | sneakyimp, schock
[22:29] <piotrek> We love windows operating system!
[22:29] <ardchoille> !ops | piotrek
[22:29] <schock> jeez sorry
[22:29] <ohsix> mbeierl: package names are like so: gstreamer0.10-plugins-(bad|good|ugly) and the same with -multiverse at the end
[22:29] <piotrek> Nokia love MS
[22:29] <mbeierl> ohsix: yep.  got the ugly and all the others.  Will continue to search
[22:29] <Jordan_U> !ot | piotrek
[22:29] <GMH> piotrek: 2/10 try elsewhere
[22:30] <ohsix> mbeierl: it could be that drm protected content might be unplayable, i don't know much about that either; never used itunes with mine
[22:30] <Chipzzz> piotrek: we do not feed trolls, sorry
[22:30] <schock> um sorry bout that :)
[22:30] <GMH> ooh, nice, Lubuntu only has two desktops
[22:30] <GMH> that helps obviously
[22:30] <schock> anyhoo, as I was asking... anyone here w/experience installing ubuntu on sony vaioz series?
[22:30] <piotrek> !ot | piotrek
[22:30] <schock> or, is there another channel i should try?
[22:30] <mbeierl> ohsix: these are clear m4as.  I can add them and play them with banshee ...
[22:30] <JQQ> i know apple makes bootcamp drivers for windows, but are there any issues using the volume keys or audio drivers etc with Ubuntu 10.4 or 10.10 if i put it on a brand new MBP 13"??
[22:30] <ThinkT510> GMH: you can set more virtual desktops if you want
[22:30] <ohsix> GMH: that is configurable in any desktop; and they basically just move windows around, they don't use that many resources
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: you can install windows in a non-ose virtualbox and use itunes, yo9ur system may struggle if it's mid to low range as you will be using BOTH OSes at the same time but you will be able to use iTunes.
[22:31] <mbeierl> ohsix: but as I said... will do a little more searching to see if I'm missing a plugin
[22:31] <piotrek> do your know what means "DUPA" ??
[22:31] <ardchoille> Please kick the troll, we don't need the disruption IMO
[22:31] <ohsix> mbeierl: good, glad i could point some things out
[22:32] <lotus> Hi, is there any default remote access with user/pass in ubuntu?  I didn't install SSH and I need to access my work computer.  Is this possible without going back to the lab?
[22:32] <mbeierl> ohsix: thanks.  I'll let you know if rhythmbox can solve it where gtkpod couldn't...
[22:32] <sneakyimp> i'm trying to set up Ubuntu for PHP dev server.  I added some apache conf with a 301 redirect in it yesterday and promptly disabled it.  Firefox held on to the 301 redirect until I cleared my cache today.  Is there any way to easily clear firefox cache on firefox/ubuntu?
[22:32] <eksit> #ubuntu-nl
[22:32] <tsimpson> lotus: no, absolutely nothing by default
[22:32] <mman> lotus,  yes there is
[22:32] <lotus> tsimpson: that is sad
[22:32] <lotus> mman: that makes me smile ^^
[22:32] <tsimpson> lotus: Ubuntu comes with no network facing services by default
[22:33] <ohsix> mbeierl: i haven't looked at gtkpod in a while, but iirc it's supposed to be using usbmuxd and all that fancy stuff that the new ipod os'ii work; if it doesn't do it now it might be a bug
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> lotus: if you need ssh access instal openssh-server  it has X forwarding enabled by default :)
[22:33] <Abinadi> !sound
[22:33] <tsimpson> unlike windows, we let you choose to install that yourself ;)
[22:33] <lotus> ActionParsnip: yeah, how to do without ssh access
[22:33] <Chipzzz> mman: what, then?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> lotus: do what?
[22:33] <GMH[ubuntu]> yay i am now connected to the internet!
[22:33] <lotus> ActionParsnip: install ssh
[22:33]  * GMH[ubuntu] is using Lubuntu
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> lotus: hmm, you'll need physical access then
[22:33] <mman> Chipzzz, i did it once
[22:34] <lotus> ActionParsnip: :)  I'm not infront of the computer.  I don't want to bike altheway back.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> GMH[ubuntu]: welcome to the revolutions :)
[22:34] <mman> im looking for it
[22:34] <lotus> it's cold out.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> lotus: anyone local?
[22:34] <GMH[ubuntu]> ActionParsnips: lol.  well, if you want a quick story of why i have ubuntu on thismachine in the first place:
[22:34] <ohsix> GMH: theres something you can turn on to compress swap and get a bit more unf; i think it was disabled in 10.10 though, or the name changed and the init scripts didn't catch up :[ it was nice while i was able to use it
[22:34] <sneakyimp> another question i have is about using /etc/network/interfaces to make my machine think it's hosting various domains.  is that ok?  for instance, i'm working on mydomain.com.  I put 127.0.0.1 in /etc/network/interfaces and my browser thinks mydomain.com is hosted by local machine.  is that stupid or reasonable?
[22:34] <ThinkT510> !yay | GMH[ubuntu]
[22:34] <Chipzzz> mman: ty... I'm curious too...
[22:34] <lotus> No, it's saturday noone there.
[22:34] <mman> lotus, you go to system-> remote desktop
[22:34]  * drc raises his virtual beer glass to GMH[ubuntu] 
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> lotus: hmm, then you are stuck
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !beer
[22:35]  * GMH[ubuntu] raises virtual beer glass to drc
[22:35] <tsimpson> sneakyimp: you mean /etc/hosts?
[22:35] <mman> Chipzzz, system-> remote desktop
[22:35] <Chipzzz> mman: ty
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> mman: no physical access, so isn't able to do that
[22:35] <drc> GMH[ubuntu]: This means the next round is on you
[22:35] <sneakyimp> tsimpson, doh yes i do
[22:35] <Bogus8> Anyone in here have experience installing wavemaker?
[22:35] <mbeierl> ohsix: I was missing the -multiverse ugly and bad.  m4a support now there for rhythmbox, but - no luck getting the song onto the ipod.  It transfers, but the ipod does not show it in its song list.
[22:35] <tsimpson> sneakyimp: yeah, unless you have access to a DNS server, that's what /etc/hosts is there for
[22:35] <GMH[ubuntu]> This machine had XP when i first got it back in 2003.  XP died unexpectedly sometime in 2007 I believe, and was unrecoverable.  In early 2008 I had a friend install Ubuntu.  It wasn't an easy install since this machine lacks a functional CD drive, and he had to jump through various hoops to get it running.
[22:35] <mman> ActionParsnip, what do u mean with no physical access?
[22:36] <lotus> mman: he means I'm at home and the lab is a cold bike ride away.
[22:36] <Chipzzz> mman: it is disabled by default... what he wants to do is avoid a trip to work to enable something
[22:36] <mman> lotus, mmm in that case you have noooo chance:P
[22:36] <lotus> I think I should look at the bike ride as brisk and inviting...
[22:36] <GMH[ubuntu]> then i mostly ignored it until recently, when I actually got to know someone in meatspace who ran ubuntu and could help me out with stuff, and then i sent my main computer into the shop so i need another computer to use.
[22:36] <sneakyimp> tsimpson: yes, the idea is that i set and work at my awesome new ubuntu workstation and when i request somedomain.com i can map it to the local apache server and the local apache server, rather than just pointing me to the default home page will use the virtual host for that domain.  sounds like a reasonable thing to do?
[22:36] <Chipzzz> lol
[22:37] <mman> lotus, maybe if u hack it:P
[22:37] <itaylor57> mbeierl: I haven't been able to connect .1to ios 4.2 devices, I don't think it can be done even in 10.10
[22:37] <familia> http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php/topic,79129.0.html
[22:37] <GMH[ubuntu]> This computer currently runs Ubuntu 10.04.
[22:37] <familia> help me
[22:37] <familia> http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php/topic,79129.0.html
[22:37] <ohsix> mbeierl: ah, something might have changed then, that happens; the usbmuxd and gtkpod guys should have a blog or mailing list post about it if they know already
[22:37] <guntbert> !here | familia
[22:37] <tsimpson> sneakyimp: absolutely fine :)
[22:37] <familia> help me
[22:37] <familia> http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php/topic,79129.0.html
[22:37] <lotus> mman: any exploits on a fresh ubuntu 10.10 install?  ^^  *hmmm millworm*
[22:37] <sneakyimp> tsimpson, thank you for your time :D
[22:37] <mman> lotus, no idea my friend... :P
[22:38] <mbeierl> ohsix: been in #gtkpod already - quiet, will keep searching, but no luck with google so far.  Been searching for quite some time before asking here... never know!
[22:38] <tsimpson> lotus: as there is nothing facing the network by default, it wouldn't matter if there were any exploits ;)
[22:38] <bc81> !botsnack
[22:38] <lotus> tsimpson: I did install git and aapache
[22:38] <mbeierl> itaylor57: I can connect, just cannot update the itunes library to add new songs without running official itunes
[22:38] <lotus> also ruby and some apache modules
[22:38] <itaylor57> mbeierl: same here
[22:38] <mman> lotus, maybe with apache you can get something
[22:39] <tsimpson> lotus: neither are privileged, www-data (what apache runs as) has pretty much no access to anything unless you explicitly give it some
[22:39] <ohsix> GMH: it could be hairy but could also pay off to be played with on your machine, see COMPCACHE_SIZE in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[22:40] <mman> lotus, oooorrr dont be that lazy and go to ur lab:P
[22:40] <ohsix> GMH: the patch set was reworked in newer kernels and isn't as nice as just changing that though :\
[22:41] <tsimpson> lotus: I think it would be easier and quicker to physically get to the computer than attempt to find a working exploit, and then figure out how to use then, then to actually use it to do what you want :)
[22:41] <GMH[win]> okay, lubuntu is currently using 163 MB of 243
[22:41] <GMH[win]> this is with chromium loaded to tvtropes.org
[22:41] <mman> lotus, agree with tsimpson
[22:41] <GMH[win]> which has its fair share of ads
[22:41] <lotus> tsimpson: yes you're right I'm realizing that.
[22:41] <lotus> *grabs coat*
[22:41] <GMH[win]> lemme try loading gmail non-basic HTML, which crashed firefox when i ran it in gnome before
[22:41] <lotus> Thanks anyways ^^
[22:41] <Chipzzz> familia: what does lshw return?
[22:41] <ohsix> GMH: be sure to look at the output of smem and not top or something like it; the numbers are hard to interpret usefully to the uninitiated
[22:42] <GMH[win]> what's smem?  the system monitor / task manager/
[22:42] <GMH[win]> ?
[22:42] <ohsix> GMH: also re: firefox and chromium/epiphany, firefox can block ads and images and flash and all sorts of things easily that is usually a win overall
[22:42] <Chipzzz> GMH[win]: smem is a memory tool
[22:43] <ohsix> GMH: smem is a command line script that does all the work finding a sober guess at actual memory use, it's also the name of the package you can apt-get install :]
[22:43] <pebblix> GMH: Are you enjoying your cup of ubuntu ? :)
[22:43] <iamgregor> I have two drives installed on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to both because it wasn't working at first. How do I know which my computer booted from? Is it the one called "File System" listed first after Desktop?
[22:43] <longcat> what is the package that lets me put a temperature monitor on the gnome dock?
[22:43] <GMH[win]> i'm less enjoying using it (since i don't know how to and it's rather slow) and more enjoying learning it
[22:43] <kevdog> hey
[22:44] <Krycek> GNOME Sensors Applet  ?
[22:44] <mman> iamgregor, in console do: sudo fdisk -l
[22:45] <tux0r> I need help from someone with advanced grub/windows7 bootloader please
[22:45] <kevdog> anyone know when the blackhat convention is??  the competition to crack the browsers
[22:45] <pebblix> GMH: 15 years learning everything about open source software. Its been an awesome ride and i plan on enjoying it for the next 50 years :)
[22:45] <mman> tux0r, what happen?
[22:45] <guntbert> !ot | kevdog
[22:45] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I'm sharing pictures folder with other users on the same box, permissions are setup as 744, however to make the softlink, I have to log in as the user and create the link???  If I make it as root, then it belongs to root, if I change the softlink then the picture folder it points to gets a new owner.
[22:46] <kevdog> I love ot
[22:46] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Okay, I'm not going to pretend to understand what's going on here. But nautilus evidently works again. And Alt+F2 is a useful combination I should have learned about a long time ago. I still have no desktop, though :p
[22:46] <iamgregor> Thanks!
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: nautilus draws the desktop icons
[22:46] <pebblix> shane4ubuntu: chown SOME_CHOMD_HERE link
[22:46] <iamgregor> Is the one listed first the real system disk? I'd like to wipe the non-system disk
[22:46] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: unless that pesky gconf key tells it not to
[22:46] <ThinkT510> shane4ubuntu: have you considered a seperate share partition, then set the permissions per user
[22:46] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: doing that then changes the original folder to belong to the person I chown it to.
[22:46] <pebblix> shane4ubuntu: chown USER:GROUP link (sorry)
[22:47] <geogeek1> hi
[22:47] <Chikokishi> How do i add a printer in the pdf viewer program?
[22:47] <bc81> hi^^
[22:47] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Didn't know that. But I have nautilus open - and no desktop.
[22:47] <shane4ubuntu> ThinkT510: I don't want to mess around with a separate partition, permissions is sufficient to setup the shared folder.
[22:47] <jkg> Chikokishi: you dd it through System > Administration > Printing first.
[22:47] <jkg> er, add even
[22:48] <GMH[win]> how would i turn off tap-to-click in Lubuntu?
[22:48] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: that ends up changing the original folder's owner too though
[22:48] <pebblix> shane4ubuntu: You will never have to be logged in as the user for whom with edit permissions as.
[22:48] <dxy> anyone here on PS3 box running ubuntu?
[22:48] <geogeek1> how i could use mv or cp without telling the name of the destination file to be the same as the original
[22:48] <mman> iamgregor, what i would do, is check how big is the partition you are using right now. And then compare it to those that appeared in the fdisk -l
[22:48] <pebblix> shane4ubuntu: Fast to check..
[22:48] <Chikokishi> jkg ok im in that menu and i went to "add network printer" and its asking for "host"?
[22:49] <geogeek1> by giving in the second arg just the path not the name of destnation  file
[22:49] <bc81> GMH[win]: ask in #lubuntu (you might get better responses)
[22:49] <mman> geogeek1, what do mean?
[22:49] <Chipzzz> GMH[win]: isn't that a bios function?
[22:49] <thekardinal> is your printer connected to your computer or a router?
[22:49] <GMH[win]> oh, lubuntu has its own channel?
[22:49]  * GMH[win] goes there
[22:49] <Chikokishi> im connected into a net work that the printer is on.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> geogeek1: mv file /path/to/dest
[22:49] <pebblix> shane4ubuntu: Any link will most likely contain the parents folders rights. You can consider them beeing transparent if not hard linked.
[22:50] <Chikokishi> Im at school and if you hardwire to the wall you should be able to find the printer (it works in windows atleast...)
[22:50] <aplund> Anyone got any hints on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1691307
[22:50] <jkg> I found work's new xerox tok a couple of minutes to appear in the list, but it did show up. do yo have any details/addresses for the printer or print server
[22:50] <Chikokishi> I dont know anything about the printer.
[22:50] <geogeek1> mman: when i use mv i must specify the name of the file in the 1st arg but if i like to name like the originale file how to do that without typing the same name in the 2 args
[22:50] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: I guess I can own the link since it is pointed to a folder that has 744 permissions?
[22:51] <jkg> apologies for the odd missing letter, I'm on a really laggy connection and my session occasionally misses keystrokes
[22:51] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: wouldn't really matter at that point?
[22:51] <tux0r> mman, I have multiple hdds, a E:\ 1TB - Windows 7 drive (i/dev/sdc1) and another "extra" drive that I believe is C:\ 500GB (/dev/sda1) - each of these drives is only 1 partition at full capacity. I had Grub configured correctly and windows was able to be booted from grub with no problem. I was an idiot and forgot that I had the boot mgr for windows on the C:\ (extra) drive instead of the E:\
[22:51] <tux0r> (windows) and I managed the format the whole bootmgr for windows and now nothing is on the C:\ drive. I would now like my bootmgr for windows to be on the E:\ drive which is where I think the grub boot loader is installed to unless it's on my other-other Linux 500GB - (/dev/sdd1). I'm so confused and am at a loss here.
[22:51] <pebblix> aplund: Make it not suspend using hdparm or sdparm. Didnt read thru it though.
[22:51] <geogeek1> ActionParsnip:  thanks tooo much :)
[22:51] <aplund> pebblix: that would change restoring of the monitor?
[22:51] <GMH> ActionParsnip: so lubuntu comes with a suite of its own apps that are lighter than gnome's, such as task manager instead of system monitor?
[22:51] <Chikokishi> Oh i think i found it
[22:51] <pebblix> shane4ubuntu: I think so, yes.
[22:52] <GMH> FWIW it's already working better.
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> aplund: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/dell+latitude+d630  may help
[22:52] <mycosys> tuxor - you will need to use ur windows install disk and run recovery
[22:52] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: ohh, one small thing, I can't make the link because I don't have write permissions to their directory, so it is owned by root.
[22:52] <mycosys> windows 7 reserves a 100M partition for its bootloader
[22:52] <tux0r> mycosys, so it doesn't sound like it's a grub issue?
[22:52] <Chikokishi> yayi found it thanks!
[22:52] <tux0r> why would it reserve it on another hdd
[22:52] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: I feel like I'm running in circles here.
[22:52] <mycosys> not i fyou killed win7s bootloader, no
[22:53] <mman> tux0r, didnt understand much your problem
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> GMH: yes, it uses abiword, osmosis and gnumeric instead of opeoffice, it also uses pcmanfm2 for file management and xfburn for CD/DVD burning
[22:53] <tux0r> mycosys, how do I tell where grub is installed
[22:53] <bc81> that's where microsoft stors your deepest, darkets secrets...the 100MB boot loader partition
[22:53]  * tux0r hopes it's not on his windows drive
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: 100Mb, yikes!
[22:53] <mycosys> lol
[22:54] <pebblix> aplund: Ah, sorry. I read it wrong. Nvidia / hmmz :) .. The trickiest driver known to man :)
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> GMH: stuff like that (leafpad instead of gedit too)
[22:54] <GMH> oh gedit isn't light?
[22:54] <GMH> never knew that.
[22:54] <mman> tux0r, you could install it again if you want
[22:54] <aplund> What's the story with nvidia-common version numbers?
[22:54]  * GMH is used to using gedit, and being confused about emacs, from using red hat computers at school
[22:54] <leapy0yo> how do i mount a cue and bin file?
[22:54] <tux0r> mman, why would i install it again when the whole file system is perfect
[22:54] <leapy0yo> an iso
[22:54] <aplund> It says impoved with 100.14.19 but I have 260.19.06 installed
[22:54] <aplund> is there really that many versions?
[22:54] <Abinadi> !video
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> GMH: not as light as leafpad. You are completely at liberty to use/install gedit if you wish
[22:55] <mman> tux0r, i ment grub
[22:55] <panday> hi, need reference to harden baackcktr
[22:55] <tux0r> mman, i've done that
[22:55] <bazhang> panday, ask in backtrack support NOT here
[22:55] <mman> tux0r, ok, then i didnt get ur problem:P
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> GMH: i use nautilus in lubuntu but add the option: --no-desktop   so that pcmanfm stil manages the desktop
[22:55] <tux0r> how do i find out what hdd the grub boot loader is on
[22:55] <mycosys> i dont honestly kknow  tux0r
[22:56] <mycosys> i know its config files are in /boot/grub
[22:56] <shane4ubuntu> pebblix: ok, just tried and it doesn't matter if it belongs to root, just means they cannot delete the link
[22:56] <mycosys> reinstalling grub wouldnt hurt tho
[22:56] <tux0r> mycosys, yeah i did that :/
[22:56] <induz_> ok kdenlive is working now but it crashes
[22:56] <Abinadi> tux0r, it's on your boot drive
[22:56] <mman> tux0r, try to search for that /boot/grub as mycosys says
[22:56] <mycosys> if you have reinstalled windows you will definitely need to - windows will overwrite it
[22:56]  * KM0201 is installing lubuntu
[22:56] <Chipzzz> tux0r: do you get a grub menu if you press space while the machine boots?
[22:56] <mbeierl> ohsix: btw... I get this from rhythmbox output when I run it from the cmdline: "Could not write database to iPod: Failed to generate sqlite database"
[22:56] <tucemiux> anyone ever had a problem right clicking a link in firefox?  I want to right click firefox but nothing happens!
[22:56] <rumpe1> tux0r, dd if=/dev/sda | strings | head -n 4
[22:56] <tux0r> so most likely if I only used 1 drive for install linux it would be on that
[22:56] <mman> tux0r, and where you find it, thats the one that has grub :P
[22:56] <sam555> hello all!
[22:57] <tucemiux> !bug
[22:57] <JQQ> does anyone know of a DLNA Media Server for Ubuntu that I could play my videos on computer on my xbox over LAN?
[22:57] <sam555> i've recently uninstalled ubuntu 9.10 on a machiine that dual booted to win7 and ubuntu.  I removed the ubuntu 9.10 installation in win7.  However, when I reboot, it tries to use grub, which fails.  How do I remove the grub installation and let windows do the start up?
[22:57] <mman> JQQ, check mythbuntu
[22:57] <ohsix> mbeierl: odd, they might have changed the location or something in the firmware update, what was the new version again?
[22:57] <sneakyimp> i just ran apt-get install phpmyadmin but when i try to access localhost/phpmyadmin i get 404
[22:57] <tux0r> rumpe1: http://www.pastie.org/1583863
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> JQQ: mediatomb possibly
[22:58] <shane4ubuntu> ok, is there an easy way to copy a link from one location to another with cli?  cp link ../user/   gives me error, omitting direcotry link
[22:58] <JQQ> do i have to reintsall ubuntu as/with mythbuntu
[22:58] <mycosys> tuxor - it would likely be on the drive that was ur boot drive when u installed linux
[22:58] <rumpe1> tux0r, thats not the device with the grub-bootloader ^^
[22:58] <wl_deav> sam555 run windows system repair by inserting the windows disk, booting to it and selecting repair my windows installation
[22:58] <pebblix> The truth about GL-drivers on free software platforms is this atm: You can compile libdrm, mesa, nouveau, ati, intel for GL etc but not really at the same time because of libdrm and mesa changes. I request unity in that department.
[22:58] <mycosys> it is generally installed by ubuntu into the mbr
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> sneakyimp: does: service php status    say it's running (you may want to tab complete the php bit)
[22:58] <sam555> wl_deav: i did that and it did not work
[22:58] <leapy0yo> mount -t iso does not work, how do i mount a cue and bin file?
[22:58] <wl_deav> sam555 join ##windows
[22:58] <sam555> kk wl_deav
[22:59] <Rubber_Duck> xD
[22:59] <mycosys> you need to add -loop leapy0yo
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> leapy0yo: you can use bchunk to make an ISO of it
[22:59] <dabox> oo nice, a distro where the creator sucked enough dick for it to make it in the source.. lemme install this now..
[22:59] <mycosys> i think it is -t 1so9660 too
[22:59] <sneakyimp> i have also done grep -irl phpmyadmin in the apache2 and there are no references to phpmyadmin in the apache conf at all.  what's the easiest way to configure apache to access phpmyadmin?  I'd like it to be available on my LAN so plz attach to static ip 192.168.1.3
[22:59] <rumpe1> tux0r, if grub has written the mbr of a drive, the string "GRUB" should appear...
[22:59] <sneakyimp> actionparsnip, i'm sure php is working if that is what you mean
[22:59] <Abinadi> ok, I have read all the sound tutorials and forum messages (for versions of earlier editions of ubuntu).  I installed VirtualBox and added Windows Vista 64 bit Ultimate as a guest OS.  Now, my sound doesn't work *at all* anywhere.  (it worked fine in maverick before I installed the VB)  Can someone give me a hand here?
[23:00] <tux0r> which partition is grub normally installed on
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> sneakyimp: sure but is the service running. If the service isn't running you cannot connect to it, can you
[23:00] <sneakyimp> actionparsnip: unless i'm mistaken, php doesn't run as a service -- apache does (httpd).
[23:00] <mycosys> sam555 get an old version of DOS and run fdisk /mbr
[23:00] <mycosys> freedos will do
[23:00] <tux0r> rumpe1, i confirmed it's on one of the /dev/sdd partitions
[23:01] <sneakyimp> actionparsnip, and the availablility of phpmyadmin via apache is a matter of apache <directory> directive or something
[23:01] <ohsix> sneakyimp: if it's fastcgi it can run as its own service :] (a side point, i don't think ubuntu has it run this way, but it can do it)
[23:01] <pebblix> sneakyimp: PHP is a programming language, yes youre correct
[23:01] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I think I might have not very well explained things. I'm using Ubuntu Netbook Edition, so my desktop isn't the regular GNOME desktop. It's made up entirely of horizontal bars down the left side of the screen, each of which when cllicked displays its contents in the right half of the screen. I don't know what it's called, but that's what I'm missing; I just have the background...
[23:01] <rumpe1> tux0r, on a partition not on the drive itself?
[23:01] <Yerushalmi> ...picture.
[23:01] <sneakyimp> believe me everyone, php works fine when accessed via apache
[23:01] <tux0r> and those returned: http://www.pastie.org/1583871
[23:01] <sneakyimp> i just need to set up a url to point to phpmyadmin
[23:02] <rumpe1> tux0r, ah ... ok...
[23:02] <rumpe1> tux0r, then you have installed the grub-bootloader to sdd
[23:02] <sneakyimp> ohsix, i used apt-get install for all the apache/php stuff so whatever the default is
[23:02] <tux0r> ok
[23:02] <tux0r> so it's not /sdd1?
[23:02] <tux0r> oh no because it's on the root of the drive
[23:02] <sam555> ok mycosys
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: not sure, I don't use unity (thats what the desktop is called). Could try ALT+F2   and run:  mutter --replace
[23:02] <tux0r> it's /dev/sdd
[23:02] <ohsix> Yerushalmi: that's unity or whatever it was named in UNR (i forget)
[23:02] <pebblix> sneakyimp: Add it to the webpage your working with. Make sure youre not doing it live as to expose passwords.
[23:03] <openbees> snekkyimp: localhost/phpmyadmin
[23:03] <sneakyimp> pebblix, this is a localhost.  I'd like to set up one url for the entire machine if possible
[23:03] <Abinadi> can someone tell me how to reconfigure Maverick to it's default status (prior to all installs of other software)
[23:03] <pebblix> snekkyimp: Edit user/pass in php inc file
[23:03] <sneakyimp> pebblix:  it's not a public server, just my dev workstation
[23:03] <bazhang> Abinadi, to a restore point?
[23:04] <wl_deav> sneakkyimp did you add "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" to your apache config file?
[23:04] <pebblix> As openbees said
[23:04] <Abinadi> bazhang, yes, kinda like that
[23:04] <bazhang> Abinadi, did you prepare one beforehand? such as with remastersys or the like?
[23:04] <Abinadi> bazhang, I believe I made a rescue disk but I'm not sure.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sneakyimp: not sure, I dont use php
[23:05] <sneakyimp> actionparsnip: service php status returns "php: unrecognized service".  i think maybe php is running as module rather than cgi?  not sure about that.  in any case, PHP and apache work together.  i get phpinfo just fine via browser acess to localhost
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sneakyimp: use tab to complete it, I am unsure of the name
[23:05] <openbees> sneakyimp: you should install phpmyadmin using software center ..it will reduce your overhead
[23:05] <bazhang> Abinadi, thats not the same thing though
[23:05] <AlienBox> I'm having internet speed issue on this fresh install of 10.04, it's getting faster upload speed than download, as reported by speedtest.net, but if i go into another o/s and test the connections, i get the desired results, could ubuntu be using the wrong network card driver?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sneakyimp: wl_deav sounds smart here :)
[23:05] <sneakyimp> wl_deav, openbees: thx
[23:05] <wl_deav> yea
[23:05] <Abinadi> bazhang, so am I screwed?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> AlienBox: run: sudo lshw -C network       you will see the network chip you are using.
[23:06] <openbees> sneakyimp: are you kidding ..lolz
[23:06] <bazhang> Abinadi, why would you need to rollback
[23:06] <pebblix> openbees, sneakyimp: You just need to unpack it somewhere in the web-tree.
[23:06] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, thank you i will have a look
[23:06] <sneakyimp> openbees:  derp.  new to ubuntu
[23:07] <openbees> pebblix: i have no problem with my phpmyadmin
[23:07] <Abinadi> bazhang, I have been trying to get the sound working in a windows virtualbox and the sound on the whole system just stopped working.
[23:07] <openbees> sneakyimp: me too
[23:07] <scarface> How can I mount an SSH directory via the command line?  It seems to happen automatically via Nautilus when I use a "ssh://whatever" URL, and the location gets mounted in ~/.gvfs.  I'd like to be able to do the mounting by hand from the command line.
[23:07] <bazhang> Abinadi, what about when you get rid of the vm
[23:08] <Abinadi> bazhang, I haven
[23:08] <erUSUL> scarface: take a look at sshfs
[23:08] <edbian> scarface, sshfs
[23:08] <Abinadi> bazhang, I haven't tried (or wanted) to get rid of the guest OS (windows)
[23:08] <edbian> scarface, instead of ssh  (and you give mount points)
[23:08] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, that command showed the correct card
[23:08] <pebblix> Im taking advanced JavaScript,DOM and AJAX at the university now. Its much fun because the creation of elements is the same across all programming languages. I dont like windows much though, because their DOM-interpreter code will choke on so many things its not even funny :)
[23:08] <scarface> erUSUL, sshfs came up in some searches, but it's not already installed on my system.  So I thought there might be another way to do it, since it already works via Nautilus
[23:08] <Chipzzz> Abinadi: what adaptor is the vm configured to use?
[23:09] <mbeierl> ohsix: sorry - the os version is 4.2.1
[23:09] <leapy0yo> mount -t iso does not work, how do i mount a cue and bin file?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> AlienBox: ok now you know the chip and you can see if there are bugs or how-tos based on that chip (what is it and I'll help too)
[23:09] <Senjai> i use a program
[23:09] <aplund> how do I find out which kernel module is associated with which file it was loaded from?
[23:09] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: So I really am using unity? That explains a lot. Is there a dedicated chatroom or forum for problems with it?
[23:09] <erUSUL> scarface: maybe some of the gvfs-foo commands i really dunno
[23:09] <bazhang> Abinadi, but part of rolling back would be to undo everything you added, including that vm
[23:09] <Senjai> leapy0yo, I use Furius ISO mount
[23:10] <BluesKaj> leapy0yo, do you mean run the file ? bin files are usually app install vehicles
[23:10] <passthru> i am having problem with my WI-FI stability when using it with NetworkManager
[23:10] <mbeierl> ohsix: fwiw: full list of errors is last post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576249&page=11  same errors, regardless of gtkpod or rhythmbox
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> scarface: http://maketecheasier.com/mount-iso-bin-and-cue-files-from-nautilus/2009/05/23
[23:10] <erUSUL> aplund: normally is a 1:1 relation modulename is modulename.ko
[23:10] <passthru> from times in times it gets stucked
[23:10] <aplund> erUSUL: but it doesn't seem to be for nvidia-common.ko
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: not sure dude, could try a channel list
[23:10] <passthru> i need to disconnect and connect the wi-fi connection
[23:10] <leapy0yo> blues, it is an iso file
[23:10] <openbees> passthru: what kind of problem
[23:10] <passthru> it happenas with my netbook too
[23:10] <passthru> *happens
[23:10] <passthru> and are different wifi cards..
[23:10] <Senjai> leapy0yo, I use Furius ISO mount
[23:10] <aplund> erUSUL: but I cannot be sure
[23:10] <sneakyimp> wl_deav:  added "include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" to file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and it now seems to work beautifully.  Is this approach at risk when I update apache or php or anything?  Will it be stable?
[23:11] <sneakyimp> wl_deav: and for heaven's sake why doesn't the package installer take care of that?
[23:11] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, i wouldn't be concerned it was a minor speed difference, but it's almost embarassing, i get 20+ Mbps in windows xp, from speed test.net, then i can reboot, go into ubuntu, and only get .75 to 1.5 Mbps
[23:11] <erUSUL> aplund: afaics nvidia driver uses only one module nvidia.ko
[23:11] <wl_deav> apache.conf will remain regardless of updates, sneakyimp
[23:11] <ohsix> mbeierl: http://www.libimobiledevice.org/ they mention some things to try for people still having problems with 4.2.1
[23:11] <Abinadi> bazhang, It is using the OSS  and the Intel HD Audio driver
[23:11] <Senjai> sneakyimp, you don't have to worry
[23:11] <passthru> if I set up the wifi connection in /etc/network/interfaces it runs good
[23:11] <passthru> w/o stucking
[23:11] <aplund> erUSUL: I cannot find such a file
[23:11] <mbeierl> ohsix: will look, thanks!
[23:11] <passthru> any clue ?
[23:11] <sneakyimp> wl_deav: yes but I added it to httpd.conf....that ok?
[23:11] <bazhang> passthru, keep it on a single line, its impossible to read you
[23:11] <erUSUL> !find nvidia.ko
[23:11] <BluesKaj> leapy0yo, run it first then mount it. ./nameofapp.bin
[23:11] <wl_deav> yes that's fine sneakyimp
[23:11] <wl_deav> FYI: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin sneakyimp
[23:11] <erUSUL> !info nvidia-current
[23:11] <Chipzzz> Abinadi: you may find alsa more stable
[23:11] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Alright. Well, thanks for the help, you really are a life-saver :) Good night!
[23:11] <sneakyimp> wl_deav:  httpd.conf was empty so i can see much more easily what I added versus what is native to the apache cof
[23:11] <sneakyimp> wl_deav: thx
[23:11] <pebblix> aplund: Presumably the file from which it was loaded from ;) ... If the root user (Always the case) installed the kernel, then seek its modulepath to find the modules installed for this kernel. Then you can md5sum it and compare
[23:12] <induz_> which one is better KDE or GNOMe
[23:12] <passthru> bazhang, ok, i will try that.
[23:12] <Abinadi> Chipzzz, ok
[23:12] <mycosys> induz_ neither
[23:12] <AlienBox> this happened before on another machine, I think you walked me through that one too, however i can't remember what we did to get it  up to speed
[23:12] <Senjai> induz_, subjective, but i prefer gnome
[23:12] <induz_> I know its personal coice but for a MS window guy
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> induz_: neither and both
[23:12] <harpreet> Hi, I am looking for shared calendar that I can use online between 10-20 people, is there anything available like that?
[23:12] <Lint01> induz_, gnome by far, also !poll
[23:12] <passthru> bazhang, i have a problem with WIFI when it is being managed by NetworkManager. it simply stucks time from time.. and is intermittent
[23:12] <wl_deav> harpreet Google Calendar
[23:12] <mycosys> induz_ for a windowsx use KDe for sure
[23:12] <openbees> sneakyimp: thats why installing from software center is better option ...
[23:12] <Senjai> induz_, I am a windows guy, and let me tell you, you really want to get away from windows
[23:12] <mycosys> *user
[23:12] <harpreet> wl_deav, but can people who dont have gmail, share it?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: sunbird maybe
[23:12] <GMH[win]> FWIW
[23:12] <Senjai> infuz_, go gnome :)
[23:12] <aplund> pebblix: how do I get the md5sum of an installed module?
[23:12] <GMH[win]> this old computer running Lubuntu = mostly acceptable
[23:13] <wl_deav> harpreet yes you can create a google account with a non gmail address
[23:13] <Lint01> ActionParsnip, sunbird is out of development
[23:13] <leapy0yo> i need to mount an iso image, how do i do so? mount -t iso9600 file.iso /cdrom is not working
[23:13] <Chipzzz> Senjai: lol... so true...
[23:13] <passthru> bazhang, if I kick out the NM and configure it directly in /etc/network/interfaces, it works well. it happens on my netbook to with different hardware.
[23:13] <mycosys> induz_ the KDE interface is FAR more familiar for a doze user
[23:13] <pebblix> Senjai: I did that in 96 and im not looking back :)
[23:13] <GMH[win]> a bit slow at times, but at least it doesn't crash or take longer than 10 minutes to do stuff
[23:13] <harpreet> thank you guys
[23:13] <sneakyimp> openbees:  perhaps, but I want to know how these are done manuall....dedicated servers with CentOS or debian don't have USC
[23:13] <erUSUL> leapy0yo: it should if /cdrom exists
[23:13] <ohsix> leapy0yo: if you want to do it in one step without calling losetup, you need to add -o loop
[23:13] <induz_> I am not going back to Window Xp[MS] but how can i enjoy both on Lucid i mean KDE and Gnome
[23:13] <passthru> bazhang, any clue ?
[23:13] <Senjai> pebblix, I did that a month ago, and not looking back :P
[23:13] <Jordan_U> leapy0yo: bin/cue files are *not* iso files.
[23:13] <mycosys> of course you can induz_
[23:13] <ohsix> leapy0yo: nautilus can auto mount iso files, and it wont leave stale loop's around; you should try it
[23:13] <bazhang> passthru, then avoid network manager, I never rely upon it, and connecting via the command line is tons more reliable
[23:13] <Lint01> mycosys, it's too gaudy to be like Windows
[23:13] <pebblix> aplund: "md5sum filename" ?
[23:13] <induz_> mycosys, u r a bit right as i am figuring out too
[23:13] <openbees> sneakying: then please teach me also
[23:13] <Senjai> pebblix, lol, DirectX programmer and everything
[23:13] <mycosys> and you can try enlightenment and xfce and more too
[23:14] <Lint01> induz_, yes, but it's disk space overkill
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: gah
[23:14] <pebblix> Senjai: Sexxi ;)
[23:14] <aplund> pebblix: how do I know which file is associated with the installed module name? (i.e. the original question)
[23:14] <openbees> sneakyimp: then please teach me also
[23:14] <sneakyimp> wl_deav: thx so much.  i'm in great shape now :D
[23:14] <induz_> right now i am using Gnome but I am also using KDElive, sometimes it crashes
[23:14] <Chipzzz> induz_: you can make another user for your alternate desktop... sadly they don't always play nicely together
[23:14] <wl_deav> no worries sneakyimp
[23:14] <passthru> bazhang, i agree . but i can't do it on netbook, since I use it for mobility and i have to connect in a lot of different networks daily
[23:14] <mycosys> induz - you can just remove the ones you dont want later when you decide your desktop environment for good
[23:14] <sneakyimp> openbees: lol!  Lessonz: five hunderd an our
[23:14] <Senjai> Omg, #ubuntu, is crazy buzzy, I need some tea.
[23:14] <pebblix> aplund: lsmod | grep ModuleName
[23:15] <AegisX> I was wondering... does anyone here use Evolution with a Gmail account? Do you find they interact well, with the labels and stars and archiving and such?
[23:15] <passthru> bazhang, and it sometimes makes me pissed :P
[23:15] <induz_> Chipzzz, can I make another user for me and setup KDE there
[23:15] <aplund> pebblix: see above.  I've done that.  No dice.
[23:15] <openbees> sneakyimp: i can pay.........lolz
[23:15] <Senjai> AegisX, I do, it works fine
[23:15] <Chipzzz> induz_: yes
[23:15] <passthru> bazhang, in home I just gave up and i am just using it from cli.
[23:15] <mycosys> induz_ imo tho if you want a great KDE distro - you want SuSE, bloated as it is
[23:15] <induz_> Chipzzz, di I have to re-install wine, Kdelive etc again
[23:15] <AegisX> Senjai: So IMAP works correctly etc?
[23:15]  * Senjai will brb
[23:15] <sneakyimp> openbees: i accept chzbrger.  lol.  take it easy.
[23:15] <Senjai> AegisX, flawlessly :)
[23:15] <mycosys> induz_ you can just chose desktop at the login screen
[23:15] <GMH[win]> what distro and version of linux and window manager would y'all recommend for a (different) computer with a 1.3 GHz processor but with 3 GB of RAM?
[23:16] <JQQ> Q :: How do I decide if I should install 32 bit or 64 bit, I have 64 bit AMD on thsi comp and other comp is a new MBP... both have 64bit but is anything a pain in the rear with ubuntu 64bit?
[23:16] <bazhang> passthru, not sure what to suggest, I have had issues with network manager for a while and just don't use it. perhaps repeat your question every 10 minutes or so and see if someone else does use it
[23:16] <Senjai> AegisX, I get mail notifications from evo before my iphone, so... Evo > apple?
[23:16] <AegisX> Senjai: Thank you; I'll synchronise them right now :)
[23:16] <the_drow> how do I create a dkms config file?
[23:16] <leapy0yo> can i mount a .cue + .bin file? archieve management and nutrilis dont mont it
[23:16] <Abinadi> bazhang, I don't know what I just did, but I now have sound in my gues OS (windows) but the volume levels are very muted even when I crank them all the way open
[23:16] <induz_> mycosys, somehow i dont get that privilage as selecting Gnome or KDE/
[23:16] <openbees> sneakyimp: i was just kidding..please dont mind........
[23:16] <bazhang> JQQ, 64bit is find
[23:16] <induz_> how can i achieve that
[23:16] <mycosys> is session type induz_
[23:16] <induz_> I am the only one use here on this syatem now
[23:16] <Senjai> leapy0yo, Use FURIUS ISO.. lol
[23:16] <Chipzzz> induz_: it varies by application... you will have most but may have to reconfigure some
[23:16] <passthru> bazhang, yeah, i will become a bot . j/k  :)
[23:16] <AegisX> Senjai: I use an Android phone, so that works well with Gmail. I've been thinking about synchronising everything, though, and Evolution seems to be a good way to do that.
[23:17] <Lint01> GMH[win], performance depends on video card, not processor
[23:17] <pebblix> aplund: Then that was not the command you should have run was it ? ... -> "modprobe --list | grep -i ModuleName" is the correct thing to do :)
[23:17] <induz_> how can i select KDE for desktop??
[23:17] <Lint01> induz_, install plasma-desktop
[23:17] <mycosys> under session type at the login screen induz_
[23:17] <Senjai> AegisX, some people prefer thunderbird .. I personally don't care, don't need much from a mail client, just seperate my work and personal email and get it occasionally :)
[23:17] <passthru> bazhang, i am thinking in make a SH script with the most common wifi networks that i connect and just execute it on my netbook to connect. lol
[23:17] <wl_deav> GMH[win] distro to suit your needs - Ubuntu will run on that system but you may want to try something easier on your system
[23:17] <openbees> induz: during login by selecting session type
[23:17] <Oer> induz_, logout, select desktop, and login
[23:17] <Lint01> or is it plasma-workspace?
[23:18] <Senjai> AegisX, has some issues with html emails sometime. (doesn't render all the images)
[23:18] <ohsix> induz_: install kubuntu-desktop, then pick the kde session from thelogin screen
[23:18] <Senjai> AegisX, Im still talking, need tea, brb
[23:18] <Chipzzz> indez_: when you are the other user, install it as your desktop (apt-get install), then the desktop will be different for the two users
[23:18] <AegisX> Senjai: Ah, didn't even think of Thunderbird... might have a look at that too. However, Evolution seems nicely integrated with Ubuntu's desktop.
[23:18] <AegisX> Senjai: Cool :)
[23:19] <Senjai> AegisX, it is, but mozilla made thunderbird, lol, I haven't tried it, brb!!!
[23:19] <Somelauw> If you uninstall gnome, will the login screen of gnome be replaced by a login screen of kde?
[23:19] <the_drow> I have downloaded a driver for a line6 soundcard, it worked but now I upgraded my kernel and for some reason it doesn't. I was told that using dkms will solve the problem. However, the driver lacks a dkms.config file. How do I create one? The driver has a make file
[23:19] <induz_> some of my applications r KDE at GNOMe like KDlive
[23:19] <bazhang> Somelauw, you can choose between gdm and kdm
[23:19] <mufasis> i have an old hp server and it has fakeraid, i have it set to raid 1 and i installed ubuntu server, everything is working but when the server starts there is no grub and it goes straight to a log in, is this normal?
[23:19] <pebblix> AegisX: I have used Evolution for many years. I like it alot.
[23:19] <JQQ> Q:: Any reason to NOT use the wubi installer instead of CD?
[23:20] <AegisX> pebblix: It seems a fairly comprehensive and powerful organiser. Does it have any interesting functionalities?
[23:20] <yeats> JQQ: installing directly to hard disk is better supported if nothing else
[23:20] <the_drow> JQQ: Not that I know of, I am running wubi just fine
[23:20] <pebblix> JQQ: Safer to use the CD/DVD, incase the installer borks you have rescue mode :)
[23:20] <K|nG> I upgrade my ubuntu I run clean but why there still have an Old generic :S
[23:20] <Somelauw> wubi will be slightly slower so you can't play cool games
[23:20] <mufasis> anyone?
[23:21] <AegisX> Senjai: I've never really used anything by Mozilla... I'm not a huge fan of Firefox hehe
[23:21] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, forgot to mention it takes a while to even load my router, which is a 192. ip, that should load instantly righ
[23:21] <induz_> there are so many files on repo so which one to install or select?
[23:21] <Somelauw> But there aren't a lot of games for linux anyway
[23:21] <yeats> mufasis: if ubuntu is the only OS installed, it doesn't go to the GRUB menu
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> AlienBox: usually they are fast. they are just small PCs with low end hardware
[23:21] <Oer> mufasis, yes this is normal, if you want to enter grub menu, hold shift @ boot
[23:21] <induz_> KDE plasma would un-install qt## something
[23:21] <pebblix> AegisX: Scheduling, ad integration, alerts and whatnot. Try it.
[23:22] <the_drow> so no one here knows dkms? :/
[23:22] <mufasis> ahh ok, thank you guys
[23:22] <AegisX> pebblix: Will do. What about push email?
[23:22] <pebblix> the_drow: whats that ?
[23:22] <Chipzzz> induz_: look here: http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[23:22] <AegisX> pebblix: Or is that just a standard function of IMAP?
[23:22] <openbees> senjai: everything is fine with thunderbird except his behavior with yahoo
[23:22] <induz_> what about desktop themes for KDE
[23:23] <ohsix> man way too many links to blogs and first hits on google
[23:23] <JQQ> I just saw 32-bit (recommended) and thought 64 but was buggy?
[23:23] <pebblix> AegisX: No, i dont think so. And really, thats as bad as web-search-as-you-type :)
[23:23] <Senjai> openbees, Yahoo is nonexistant, forget it ever existed, it tried, it failed, it doesnt exist anymore :P
[23:23] <JQQ> but burning disc now
[23:23] <pebblix> AegisX: IE. System overload
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> induz_: www.kde-look.org
[23:23] <pebblix> :)
[23:24] <openbees> senjai: lolz thanks for the breaking news
[23:24] <Senjai> AegisX, ImapX maintains a constant TCP connection to google, so its updated as soon as google is updated.
[23:24] <AegisX> pebblix: Yeah, I hate it for work emails... but personal ones (which are much less in volume) are nice to get immediately. Guess one could just overcome that by changing the mail check frequency.
[23:24] <induz_> should i install kde-core??
[23:24] <AegisX> Senjai: Oh, is that a plugin or a standard feature/
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> JQQ: 32bit gives a slightly smoother ride due to some companies only supporting 32bit, If you have acres of RAM then use 64bit. You can use 32bit + PAE kernel but each process will only see 3.2Gb but all your RAM will be useable by the OS
[23:25] <Senjai> AegisX, standard, its whats the difference between pop and imap
[23:25] <induz_> the best choice would be kde for me
[23:25] <Senjai> pop is a single connection, download updates x times an hour. Imap is constant connection updates immediately, more bandwidth heavy
[23:25] <pebblix> AegisX: I just set it to poll every 10 minutes or so. Works nicely. It can handle all kinds of encryptions so ive not seen an isp that it has any issues with.
[23:25] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, my speed to the internet resembles dial up in Ubuntu, and i'm on a maxspeed connect from my isp, a 30mbit connect which i only see in windows
[23:25] <AegisX> Senjai: Ah, nice. And does Evolution constantly run in the background?
[23:25] <Senjai> pop is a single connection, download updates x times an hour. Imap is constant connection updates immediately, more bandwidth heavy AegisX
[23:25] <mycosys> induz_ at the console just type "sudo aptitude install kde-desktop"
[23:25] <mycosys> will take care of it all
[23:25] <Senjai> AegisX, after you initially run it yes
[23:26] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, could it be a mtu setting? the problem i mean for slow speed
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> AlienBox: what is the network chip used?
[23:26] <Senjai> AegisX, smtp is still used for outgoing mail though
[23:26] <ohsix> mycosys: theres a virtual to install everything properly
[23:26] <sam555> isn't there a way in ubuntu to manuall remove the grub
[23:26] <Senjai> for both that is
[23:26] <bazinga2761> How can I resize a VirtualBox hard drive?
[23:26] <StepNjump> Hi guys, can anyone suggest a free antivirus for Ubuntu?
[23:26] <bazinga2761> clamav
[23:26] <AlienBox> realtek 8139 is the card, let me look to see if the chip is same
[23:26] <jkg> the bandwidth usage of IMAP isn't actually bad at all, although it is an extra open connection per user (or several...) if connection count matters to you
[23:26] <Senjai> StepNjump, You really don't need one
[23:26] <StepNjump> bazinga2761, I would just start over
[23:27] <the_drow> StepNjump: yeh, most viruses are for windows
[23:27] <sam555> can I use an ubuntu live cd to edit the grub so that it will stop being the first thing called at start up so the computer can boot to windows?
[23:27] <induz_> mycosys, thanks for clarification
[23:27] <ohsix> sam555: what do you mean remove? it needs to be replaced by something, another boot sector/loader
[23:27] <StepNjump> Senjai, yeah that's what I thought! lol
[23:27] <StepNjump> So nobody of you guys have one?
[23:27] <StepNjump> That's amazing
[23:27] <Chipzzz> sam555: if you are booting to grub now, just press space while the machine boots & you can edit grub
[23:27] <sam555> ohsix: I thought there was a way to edit the grub so it wouldn't be the first thing called in the mbr
[23:27] <induz_> wow!! its downloading something
[23:28] <pebblix> AegisX: Heres hot to AD: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/Novell_Evolution
[23:28] <induz_> how much space KDE is going to take up?/
[23:28] <Ebonwumon> I have an iso that i need to mount with the option nohide.
[23:28] <sam555> Chipzzz: what would be the command to enter to get it to go into windows?
[23:28] <StepNjump> 10.10 is really amazing
[23:28] <ohsix> StepNjump: only insofar in that you actually need one on windows
[23:28] <pebblix> AegisX: HowTo :)
[23:28] <Ebonwumon> when I type mount -o ro, nohide it gives an error about it not being a block device.
[23:28] <Ebonwumon> How can I mount it?
[23:28] <mycosys> induz_ - it aint small
[23:28] <bazinga2761> StepNjump: I have already installed windows and set up lots of setting and don't want to lose that.
[23:28] <bazinga2761> I found this, but I'm new to Ubuntu and don't know how to interpret it:
[23:28] <bazinga2761>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  VBoxManage modifyhd         <uuid>|<filename>                             [--type normal|writethrough|immutable|shareable|                                     readonly|multiattach]                             [--autoreset on|off]                             [--compact]                             [--resize <megabytes>|--resizebyte <bytes>]
[23:28] <FloodBot1> bazinga2761: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <erUSUL> Ebonwumon: -o loop,nohide
[23:28] <mycosys> it would have told u before it dled
[23:28] <AegisX> pebblix: Ah, thanks for that
[23:28] <induz_> mycosys, its getting installed
[23:28] <pebblix> AegisX: Np!
[23:28] <erUSUL> Ebonwumon: you do not need to specify ro for an iso
[23:29] <StepNjump> bazinga2761 gosh.. I haven't used vbox in a while
[23:29] <AegisX> Senjai and pebblix: Just setting up Evolution now :)
[23:29] <andeh`> f u combatex
[23:29] <induz_> mycosys, 6-7 Gb?
[23:29] <StepNjump> ok ohsix
[23:29] <Senjai> StepNjump, Linux treats everything as a file! Unlike windows, it's a little harder to infect, it even treats user input as a file
[23:29] <Ebonwumon> erUSUL, it gives wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[23:29] <Senjai> Aegis goodluck :)
[23:29] <Chipzzz> sam555: that depends on where windows is in your system... www.grub.org has good docs to look through
[23:29] <induz_> Gnome is good but its all fonts and all are different for my eyes
[23:29] <AlienBox> ActionParsnip, i pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/569390/
[23:30] <erUSUL> Ebonwumon: are you usre is an iso image? did you add -t iso9660 ?
[23:30] <JustCJs> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[23:30]  * ohsix boggles at people ignoring things people have written to make stuff easier
[23:30] <induz_> i tried to correct/better look but still
[23:30] <induz_> what display mamangement should i select ??
[23:30] <StepNjump> Ok Senjai... didn't know that
[23:30]  * Senjai sighs with ohsix 
[23:30] <Ebonwumon> Yes, I did erUSUL. It's perplexing because it'll mount fine if I just double click on it, but I need the nohide option.
[23:30] <induz_> GDM or KDM
[23:30] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, compared to what?
[23:30] <StepNjump> bazinga2761 here's what I found. Hope it helps http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/122/26/
[23:30] <Senjai> StepNjump, though, still stay smart about what you install :)
[23:30] <induz_> as i have Gnome alreday in my system
[23:31] <pebblix> AegisX: I have used it alot on a few dists, upgraded dists about 15 times and its pretty solid. Sometimes itll say that this and that will change or something but all my datas are intact since about year 2000 or so.
[23:31] <AlienBox> sorry if i missed anything you typed, but i don't have a scrollback buffer for some reason
[23:31] <StepNjump> senjai, right of course
[23:31] <induz_> mycosys, its asking me to select between KDM or GDm?
[23:31] <bazinga2761> thanks!
[23:31] <bazinga2761> quit
[23:31] <mycosys> either is fine induz_
[23:31] <Senjai> ARGGH, brb :(
[23:31] <sam555> thanks Chipzzz
[23:31] <StepNjump> I can't wait to phase out my windoze completely
[23:31] <Oer> induz_, why should fonts look different on Gnome/KDE ?
[23:31] <erUSUL> Ebonwumon: well maybe the program that mounts it on double click is clever and know how to mount bin files nrg images ( nero ) and the like. mount only knows about iso and if the image is not iso it will fail
[23:32] <StepNjump> bazinga2761 did you get my link?
[23:32] <induz_> mycosys,  Ok i can select later
[23:32] <AegisX> pebblix: Wow, that's pretty impressive.
[23:32] <induz_> Oer, its not fonts but the lok
[23:32] <Chipzzz> sam555: glad to help
[23:32] <Ebonwumon> The image is most definitely an ISO. It'll mount fine with just "mount -o unhide /iso /mnt" on arch linux
[23:32] <Ebonwumon> So it's definitely an Ubuntu error erUSUL
[23:32] <induz_> actually i am more comfortable with KDElive  so i want KDE
[23:32] <AegisX> pebblix: I don't mind accessing Gmail via the net, but sometimes it's nice to just have stuff on the PC
[23:33] <Oer> induz_, have fun :-)
[23:33] <Docfxit> I'm getting an error saying: Error while loading shared libraries: libhal.so.1
[23:33] <ohsix> StepNjump: you can install clamav and do manual scans; i only use it for scanning external drives in computers i'm repairing tho
[23:33] <sam555> i think I found what I need http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999
[23:33] <erUSUL> Ebonwumon: is nohide or unhide ?
[23:33] <StepNjump> ohsix oh ok thanks. Is it available through synaptic?
[23:33] <induz_> Oer, ok
[23:33] <ohsix> StepNjump: yes
[23:33] <StepNjump> awsome, thanks bro
[23:33] <mycosys> if you want all the extra apps - add kubuntu-desktop induz_
[23:34] <pebblix> AegisX: I thnk that program also has gmail integration. Edit->Plugins and see if its in there.
[23:34] <mycosys> will add all of kubuntu to ur system
[23:34] <induz_> somehow i had lots of packages from KDE
[23:34] <JustCJs> sam555: nothing that can go wrong.. unless drive serial of core.img is altered
[23:34] <Ebonwumon> ... lol erUSUL, I'm stupid. Thanks heaps.
[23:34] <mycosys> induz - you had them to run kde apps
[23:34] <induz_> mycosys, let me see if KDElive works better on KDE
[23:34] <erUSUL> Ebonwumon: :)
[23:34] <pebblix> AegisX: It could also be an addon module
[23:34] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: try sudo apt-get check, or does the system not come up at all?
[23:35] <StepNjump> ohsix. Ok hope it works
[23:35] <AegisX> pebblix: It's not in the list; I'll look for it online.
[23:35] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, kdenlive?
[23:35] <cambazz> hello, all out of sudden my sound is gone.
[23:35] <StepNjump> ohsix you would be the first one I could help here lol
[23:35] <cambazz> where can i start to debug
[23:35] <pebblix> AegisX: Do that.
[23:35] <StepNjump> cuz i'm green on *nix
[23:35] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, Ubuntu comes up.  The app doesn't come up.
[23:35] <bazhang> induz_, it wont. just try something else, or fix the issues with kdenlive
[23:35] <induz_> kdenlive is a video programm for editing
[23:36] <pebblix> AegisX: Nice talking to you btw. Have a great time!
[23:36] <bazhang> induz_, I know that
[23:36] <induz_> kdelive is based on KDE i was told
[23:36] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: which app?
[23:36]  * mycosys wishes jahshaka had come to fruition
[23:36] <DpEpsilon> Hello
[23:36] <bazhang> induz_, it can be uses by either DE
[23:36] <Docfxit> doublecmd
[23:36] <induz_> bazhang, it was for brontosaurusrex
[23:36] <lotus> yeay ssh installed
[23:37] <lotus> fg
[23:37] <induz_> bazhang, i am too confused with this DE thing
[23:37] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, double commander
[23:37] <AegisX> pebblix: Same to you! Thanks :)
[23:37] <induz_> bazhang, i can always un-install it if i dont like it
[23:37] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, i did actually finished a project or two with kdenlive and i think its a good choice if you are looking for an OS app
[23:37] <DpEpsilon> Can anyone help we with my slight graphics problem?
[23:37] <AegisX> Senjai: And thanks to you, too :)
[23:37] <pebblix> AegisX: Np!
[23:37] <mycosys> induz_ DE = desktop environment
[23:38] <bazhang> induz_, better to fix the errors with kdenlive, try another editor than install all of kubuntu-desktop which is a huge install and wont fix the kdenlive issues
[23:38] <mycosys> kde and gnome are DEs
[23:38] <brontosaurusrex> mycosys, i wonder if jashaka is actually capable of actually producing any output?
[23:38] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, It installes fine.  When I run it from terminal I get the error.
[23:38] <brontosaurusrex> -actually
[23:38] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, I dont know why my kdenlive crashes few times
[23:38] <mycosys> no idea bronto
[23:39] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, i like kdenlive as it takes my video direct from USB port and i dont have to compress/decompress them
[23:39] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: did you install it as root?
[23:39] <StepNjump> ohsix how do you invoke clamav. It's already installed and when I type clamav in the terminal, it can't find it
[23:39] <induz_> ok now  KDE is installed what should i do....relog in
[23:39] <Senjai> AegisX, :) Im in #ubuntu-offtopic if you need anything else
[23:39] <sexcopter> easy question, for ssh, how do I "state" the option "-L 5900:localhost:5900" in the ~/.ssh/config file? The ssh_config manpage is confusing me!
[23:40] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, no.  I installed it with software center.
[23:40] <AegisX> Senjai: Understood, thanks!
[23:40] <mycosys> induz_ yup
[23:40] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, It's downloaded.  How can I install it with root?
[23:40] <brontosaurusrex> video comes to your usb ports induz_ ? thats interesting
[23:41] <pebblix> Docfxit: "su -" Supply password .. cd to the install and install it
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> pebblix: sudo -i   is advised
[23:41] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: is it a deb?
[23:41] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, yes
[23:41]  * brontosaurusrex still learning new stuff about video after 15 years in video editing bussiness
[23:41] <bazhang> pebblix, dont recommend su here
[23:41] <nibor> does anyone know how to change priority monitor in dual monitor with ati
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !root | Docfxit pebblix
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: every day is a school day
[23:41] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, either u r making fun of my little knowledge or really undesratding what i mean
[23:42] <nibor> sorry default monitro
[23:42] <nibor> monitor
[23:42] <Chipzzz> if you like using the gui, first, uninstall it with software center, then open a terminal & type sudo nautilus, then open the deb with package manager
[23:43] <induz_> but one thing i learnt so far ubuntu is not for easyway out
[23:43] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Chipzzz
[23:43] <MrFricks> ubuntus hard!
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: use gksudo with nautilus, sudo is NOT for gui apps
[23:43] <pebblix> ActionParsnip, bazhang: Impressive :) .. but isnt it better to be root as opposed to trying to be root ? Or are you just trying to be original ? (You can crew up the system worse by thinking you "just" su:ed i think)
[23:43] <MrFricks> pebblix: roots good
[23:44] <Chipzzz> sorry... ubottu is right... gksudo is fine
[23:44] <pebblix> MrFricks: Agreed
[23:44] <Jordan_U> Chipzzz: And you don't need to be running nautilus as root to open a .deb file with gdebi or Software Center (the default app for opeining .deb files).
[23:44] <MrFricks> no passwords....
[23:44] <MrFricks> happydays!
[23:44] <StepNjump> does anyone know how to run clamav from the terminal?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> pebblix: no, sudo -i   gives an interactive sudo which is closer to how you'd use it with single commands
[23:44] <erUSUL> !info clamtk | StepNjump
[23:44] <Somelauw> try man clamav
[23:44] <pebblix> MrFricks: Imagine typing the root password everytime you want to do anything as root / Lol
[23:45] <Somelauw> you have to type su + password only once without sudo
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: sudo clamscan -i /folder/to/scan
[23:45] <MrFricks> pebblix: it's infuriating!... just do it for fricks sake!
[23:45] <bazhang> Somelauw, no. sudo -i
[23:45] <StepNjump> Thank you actionparsnip!
[23:46] <mycosys> bazhang - another is sudo bash
[23:46] <JeffCBR> I think the no-root Ubuntu system is good for making sure that authorized users don't screw anything up, but doesn't really do much to increase security from outside threats.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: for more options, read: man clamscan   as Somelauw said
[23:46] <Chipzzz> sudo su gives you a root shell
[23:46] <pebblix> MrFricks: Lol, its what all users have been doing since 1996 :)
[23:46] <MrFricks> i tried to install something from the ubuntu repo, had to type my password twice!
[23:46] <set5135> can somebody help me plz
[23:46] <Jordan_U> !noroot | MrFricks pebblix
[23:46] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, have u used openshot?
[23:46] <induz_> how is it/
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: shouldn't do. What method did you use?
[23:46] <erUSUL> JeffCBR: you may want to think it twice :P
[23:46] <MrFricks> ubottu: i meant no password at all
[23:46] <Chipzzz> what's wrong set5135
[23:47] <Somelauw> But if you only download opensource software i don't think you need a virusscanner.
[23:47] <StepNjump> good point. thanks actionparsnip & somelauw
[23:47] <mycosys> jesus - an open root would be insane
[23:47] <set5135> the installer keeps freezing when im installing ubuntu
[23:47] <hilarie> I am no longer at one with the google... according to http://paste.ubuntu.com/569398/ I should have 100mz speed steps available, but CPU Frequency Scaling monitor 2.3.00 only gives me 525 mhz 1.05, and 2.1 ghz options
[23:47] <nibor> anyone know how to switch default monitor with ati when using dual monitors
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: its to help protect windows users from each other in fileservers as well as a must on emal servers
[23:47] <JeffCBR> erUSUL: Think it twice? Rethink it, you mean?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | nibor
[23:48] <MrFricks> ActionParsnip: just a regular no-console install of  an app from the repository required two passwords
[23:48] <erUSUL> JeffCBR: yes.
[23:48] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, at one point i tested them all, however due to my professional deformation i can't really stand anything that does not grasp the two players concept (player, recorder) so irc kdenlive was the one that actually passed the 1st test...
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: so software centre was used then?
[23:48] <IdleOne> MrFricks: you probably entered it wrong the first time
[23:49] <mycosys> MrFricks - sudo su or sudo bash wil give you a root console - what is the hassle???
[23:49] <Docfxit> When I do cd \tmp  I get an error saying: no such file or directory.  How can I change to the folder tmp?
[23:49] <nibor> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:49] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, some future in that field my be brought by lightworks which is supposedly going OS
[23:49] <hilarie> Any idea's on how to get more speed steps? (my laptop overheats at 2.1. but not 1.05, so wanted to fine toon somewhere in between
[23:49] <IdleOne> Docfxit: /tmp not \tmp
[23:49] <MrFricks> IdleOne: ActionParsnip it was a fresh install so a had to enter password to enter it. then passwaor to install
[23:49] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, I was using  FCP but some of my video r .avi format so i have to go to iMovie then to FCP
[23:50] <Docfxit> IdleOne, Thanks.
[23:50] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, so i started searching for linux version and so far i like dkdenlive
[23:50] <LogicallyDashing> I made a custom LiveCD. It won't boot because various folders are missing, only I can only find out which ones they are one-at-a-time by making the .iso again and getting errors when I boot it. How do I just generate the lot of these folders? I think they're all in /var.
[23:50] <MrFricks> mycosys: if it's that simple to be root anyway.. what's the difference in being root usually?
[23:51] <hilarie> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=Why+root+is+bad+ubuntu
[23:51] <JeffCBR> MrFricks: You can't accidentally do something to fry your whole system.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: logging on as root means ALL the processes will run as root which is hugely unsecure
[23:51] <IdleOne> MrFricks: the difference is you don't need to be root if you use sudo. Can you please drop it now and let's get back to stuff we do support.
[23:51] <MrFricks> JeffCBR: i don't need to be protected from myself
[23:51] <kitty_> where should i go (besides google cause i'm working on that right now) to get help running a program under wine and having mouse issues
[23:51] <bastidrazor> bastid
[23:51] <hilarie> @EVERYONE, but if we use opensouce software only... shouldn't that be a non issue
[23:51] <GMH[win]> what's a shortcut to the terminal window?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: especially for IRC clients and web browsers where attacks from users and malicious scripts in pages will inherit the access of the process and get FULL system access. Access to your EMAIL, stored PASSWORD. EVERYTING
[23:52] <GMH[win]> or is there no standard shortcut to it in every graphiacl environment?
[23:52] <IdleOne> GMH[win]: ctrl+t
[23:52] <erUSUL> kitty_: #winehq ?
[23:52] <MrFricks> ActionParsnip: maybe windows but not linux
[23:52] <Docfxit> What is the cmd line to install a deb file?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: yes, in linux
[23:52] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, i dit not get u?
[23:52] <GMH[win]> oh, ctrl+alt+T
[23:52] <IdleOne> GMH[win]: sorry ctrl+alt+t
[23:52] <JeffCBR> MrFricks: If you really want to use the root account with Ubuntu, it's pretty easy to enable it, so what is the point of your argument?
[23:52] <erUSUL> Docfxit: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[23:52] <GMH[win]> lol
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Docfxit: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/filename.deb
[23:52] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: To be fair, they would get access to your email and stored passwords running under your user as well...
[23:52] <GMH[win]> thanks anyway :)
[23:52] <hilarie> Your arguement's against root, are the exact oposite of your arguements against antivirus's though
[23:52] <MrFricks> ActionParsnip: `i see what you are saying bt it should be my choice
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: true
[23:53] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, what part?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: true and it is, but enabling the account is not advised nor supported her
[23:53] <jsw_> Anyone really familiar with SSD configuration?  I have read a few forum threads and an online guide and I believe I've figured out what I should do to take advantage of the disk, I just have some "why?" questions. :)
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> *here
[23:53] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, some snaps from windows version of lightworks http://kravca.69.mu/blog/2010/12/lightworks-goes-open-source/
[23:53] <hilarie> Don't ask to ask jsw_
[23:53] <Jordan_U> hilarie: Do you mind moving this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:53] <erUSUL> MrFricks: you have a choice. a choice of 1) using any other linux distro that does not disable root 2) enabling root in ubuntu
[23:53] <MrFricks> JeffCBR: because i installed ubuntu yesterday and it's just annoyed me.....  it took away a choice i wanted to make
[23:53] <GMH[win]> is there a lighter alternative to synaptic package manager that retains the...
[23:53] <carlos82> hello  community
[23:54] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, is that OS good for editing videos
[23:54] <carlos82> i need your help
[23:54] <Docfxit> erUSUL, ActionParsnip Thank you,
[23:54] <GMH[win]> ...can i do "apt-get search [word]" to search descriptions of packages?
[23:54] <erUSUL> GMH[win]: yes
[23:54] <carlos82> i want to make the upgrade to maverick meerkat
[23:54] <IdleOne> GMH[win]: apt-cache show package
[23:54] <K|nG> Are there a Grapich Firewall manager ??
[23:54] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, i am fedup with codecs and decompresing and again compressing
[23:54] <bazhang> GMH[win], apt-cache search
[23:54] <carlos82> i actually have an 10.04 distribution
[23:54] <GMH[win]> apt-cache, sorry.  thanks.
[23:54] <wl_deav> K|nG : firestarter
[23:54] <bazhang> K|nG, gufw
[23:54] <hilarie> @kng firestarter
[23:54] <JeffCBR> MrFricks: There are many choices available to you. You can enable the root account. You can use another distro. If you really like insecure systems, you can use Windows 98 or something.
[23:54] <jsw_> Well, I see that heads/sectors-per-track values of 32 are suggested for my OCZ Vertex II 60GB disk and that my partitions should be aligned on 64 sector boundaries (?).  Currently they are not but I will re-partition the drive shortly.
[23:54] <carlos82> but the update-manager cant show me the upgrade option
[23:54] <mycosys> MrFricks - if the acct isnt enabled a remote user cant use it
[23:54] <carlos82> please, help me
[23:54] <Lint01> firestarter long dead
[23:55] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, I have to make few videos till i get my promuser gears
[23:55] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, thats os independant, conversions will be there for a long time to come
[23:55] <jsw_> Also I see mention of adding elevator=noop to the kernel boot arguments; what is that?
[23:55] <Mike__> hi. I have a problem with my vncserver. i found a config what i have copyed to /etc/init.d/vncserver. Then i typed update-rc.d vncserver defaults. When i run from terminal /etc/init.d/vncserver start, than everything works fine. I can connect to server, i can start programs, etc... But when i reboot, and the server starts automatically, then when i connect to the server i can't start programs or anyting. So what can be the problem ?
[23:55] <erUSUL> carlos82: System>Admin...>Software sources||updates tab at the bottom. change lts only to normal
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> MrFricks: think about it though. many talented Linux users coded and configured the OS to be as it is, so enabling it goes against their good idea. Do you think you know better?
[23:56] <ohsix> MrFricks: did it take away a choice you wanted to make, or was it different from how you like it; it's an important distinction
[23:56] <erUSUL> jsw_: elevator  is the i/o scheduler
[23:56] <mycosys> MrFricks - havign a 4 character user with a lot of power that is on every system makes em much easier to hack
[23:56] <carlos82> erUSUL: i was do this
[23:56] <mycosys> if they have to find username and pass it is much harder
[23:56] <jsw_> erUSUL: I suppose this is system-wide and not per-filesystem or per-device?
[23:56] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, only problem in Kdenlive is i have to shft between viewer and final monitor
[23:56] <carlos82> but it dont show me the upgrade option
[23:56] <erUSUL> jsw_: system wide yes
[23:56] <jsw_> so since I have a mix of HDD and SSD I/O I guess I'll have to find out experimentally which works better for me
[23:57] <bazhang> carlos82, you on LTS?
[23:57] <Docfxit> After installing doublecmd with root I get the same error: error while loading shared libraries: libhal.so.1
[23:57] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, I dont know how can i get both viewer and project display working on kdenlive
[23:57] <ohsix> it really is moot though, sudo -s gets your a root shell with your credentials and sudo's gr8stuff
[23:57] <carlos82> erUSUL: i have this config before
[23:57] <j1tters> exit
[23:57] <jsw_> Is there anything special I should do when re-partitioning and re-mkfsing to make sure currently used blocks are free'd in the SSD?
[23:57] <bazhang> carlos82, what version of ubuntu
[23:57] <carlos82> erUSUL: but i was change to normal and reload the packages lists
[23:58] <carlos82> bazhang: i have 10.04 and i want to upgrade to 10.10
[23:58] <MrFricks> mycosys: i'm not paranoid about security like many people
[23:58] <ohsix> jsw_: unless your device supports discard you cab;t do that anyways
[23:58] <erUSUL> jsw_: it should be possible to sdo it per device in /sys/block/sdN/queue/scheduler iirc
[23:58] <bazhang> carlos82, check show all available upgrades, its set not to show until the next lts which is 12.04
[23:58] <itaylor57> ActionParsnip: the subtley of the design is lost on many
[23:59] <jsw_> ohsix: It is an OCZ Vertex II and the marketing materials say it has TRIM support.  I added discard,noatime to /etc/fstab and re-mounted
[23:59] <carlos82> bazhang: im expect the option to upgrade to 10.10
[23:59] <mamece2> i cant boot ubuntu 10.04 32 bit. a message appears: ubuntu is running in low graph mode, it never boots GUI. ctrl+alt+F7 brings tht modprobe vboxfailed
[23:59] <ohsix> jsw_: and its just an optimization opportunity for thefirmwarel you don't actually need to do it
[23:59] <bazhang> carlos82, so set it in synaptic
[23:59] <carlos82> bazhang: changing from lts to normal releases