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nmarques | jcastro, ping | 19:42 |
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nmarques | guys a quick question | 20:05 |
nmarques | is the artwork (mainly wallpaper) on Ubuntu contributed by the community or it's something by Canonical? | 20:06 |
vish | nmarques: canonical | 20:21 |
vish | nmarques: the default one is done by the design team, the extras are from community | 20:22 |
nmarques | vish, how would I contact the design team ? :) | 20:23 |
vish | nmarques: since i'm not sure what you are looking for, i dont know :) | 20:24 |
vish | as in whom to direct you to.. | 20:24 |
nmarques | vish, I'm implementing some of your software for openSUSE, and I was working on a small package with alternative wallpapers (distro agnostic), I wonder since this to be used with some of your software (namely indicators and at a later stage, Unity), if you guys wouldn't be interested in providing the 'default' wallpaper for this | 20:26 |
* vish does not work for Canonical.. but will take that "your" as an Ubuntu member ;) | 20:27 | |
nmarques | vish, with 'your' I mean mainly the software from the Ayatana Project ;) | 20:28 |
nmarques | vish, in the scope of everyone who made it possible, Ubuntu, Community, Canonical, enthusiasts, etc... the life force behind it ;) | 20:28 |
vish | yup, i got that part.. :) but wanted to let you know i'm non-canonical | 20:29 |
vish | nmarques: "provide" as in make a separate wallpaper for OpenSUSE? | 20:30 |
nmarques | vish, not for openSUSE, I would love it more in a 'distro agnostic' context... | 20:30 |
nmarques | vish, though I'm doing this for openSUSE, at any time I can enable cross distro builds for other distro's ;) | 20:31 |
vish | nmarques: hmm, are you saying that you wish for the default wallpaper for Ubuntu to be distro-agnostic? | 20:31 |
nmarques | vish, nah, let me rephrase ;) | 20:31 |
nmarques | vish, I have several pieces of ayatana software, indicators (in the future Unity), and as I understand, this is a Desktop experience | 20:32 |
vish | yup.. | 20:32 |
nmarques | vish, it wouldn't be very ethical to distribute your artwork, specially not a wallpaper which is much like a distro calling card ;) | 20:32 |
nmarques | vish, I've asked several people if they wanted to donate a wallpaper (despite of distribution affiliation) | 20:33 |
nmarques | vish, I'm going to package 5/7 wallpapers from several sources and distribute them on that repo | 20:33 |
nmarques | vish, I haven't asked no one from Ubuntu, and since this is a Ubuntu Desktop Experience project, it would be interesting to have a different wallpaper which translates the essence of the original project to distribute as default | 20:34 |
nmarques | vish, if someone wants to donate such a wallpaper, I would love to distribute as default | 20:34 |
nmarques | vish, giving the proper credits and honoring the licenses ;) | 20:34 |
nmarques | vish, when I say distro agnostic, this means that it shouldn't be branded as Ubuntu or openSUSE or whatever | 20:35 |
vish | nmarques: right, so this is for a ppa-kinda thing, but targeted for OpenSUSE to use Unity stuff? | 20:35 |
nmarques | vish, yes, that's one way of seeing things ;) | 20:35 |
nmarques | vish, except that I can enable build for other distros as well (Fedora, CentOS, RHEL, Mandriva, etc) ;) | 20:35 |
vish | ah! | 20:36 |
nmarques | vish, and there's a huge possibility that will happen in a medium future ;) | 20:36 |
vish | nmarques: well, i *highly* doubt that anyone from Canonical design team would 'work' on that, but you could try requesting someone from Ubuntu artwork team to look into it.. | 20:37 |
nmarques | vish, that's why I asked it if it was made by the community or canonical ;) | 20:38 |
vish | ;) | 20:38 |
nmarques | I would like to keep this as much as possible within 'community' boundaries | 20:39 |
vish | nmarques: how many people are working on this repo of yours? | 20:39 |
nmarques | vish, indirectly, some, namely openSUSE GNOME team | 20:39 |
nmarques | vish, directly, package wise, just me ;) | 20:40 |
vish | cool.. | 20:40 |
nmarques | vish, though everything is being reviewed by Vincent Untz from GNOME/openSUSE and the more experient people | 20:40 |
vish | nmarques: IMO, you are better off searching for CC artwork you like and contacting the artist and finalizing it | 20:40 |
vish | nmarques: ^it will take you much shorter time ;) | 20:40 |
nmarques | vish, very few artists so far understand a couple of things I value | 20:42 |
nmarques | vish, this can pure coincidence, but one the things I love is present on the default wallpaper of Ubuntu | 20:43 |
nmarques | vish, being it: it has no recognized shapes... so our sub-conscient doesn't waste time and resources trying to identify shapes and other tiny things | 20:43 |
nmarques | vish, humans have no conscience on this, but it happens, that's one of the reasons why many wallpaper become 'tiring' after some time looking at them ;) | 20:44 |
nmarques | vish, I never managed to pass this message to a artists for example... | 20:44 |
nmarques | vish, and very few people are aware of things like that ;) | 20:44 |
vish | nmarques: right, so you have found a few you like, i would suggest you try to work with them.. if you are requesting for community to do a new wallpaper, then you would have to set a target date, your project must attract the right artist, the artists who's work you value | 20:45 |
vish | and there is always the chance the right tone is not delivered in the submissions.. | 20:46 |
vish | nmarques: that is a big wait.. and not all design contests attract the right artists the concerned folks are looking for | 20:47 |
vish | nmarques: if you already like some work, try contacting them, that is a much quicker process.. and more easier to produce a result | 20:48 |
nmarques | vish, yeap, I'll see how to handle this... to be honest, design and artwork are fields I don't really understand... I'm just a consumer for most cases ;) | 20:49 |
vish | ;) | 20:49 |
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multiplatinum | fix instant messaging in 11.04 ok, pidgin and empathy are a freaking joke | 21:57 |
multiplatinum | hello? | 22:01 |
tareth | multiplatinum, what's wrong with them? | 22:02 |
multiplatinum | empathy crashes randomly | 22:02 |
multiplatinum | and pidgin can't do voice and video for xmpp | 22:02 |
kklimonda | well, natty is still alpha, so crashing applications are not really something unheard of. | 22:04 |
tareth | multiplatinum, well, the best course of action would be to file bug reports against them on launchpad. you can also join #pidgin on this server for any issues related to pidgin, and #empathy on gimpnet | 22:04 |
multiplatinum | im on maverick | 22:05 |
multiplatinum | tried that | 22:05 |
multiplatinum | they dont listen | 22:05 |
kklimonda | if you want to report crashes the only right way to do that is to enable apport, and upload crash report to LP. | 22:05 |
MindWarper | i thought this to be a dead channel .... | 22:59 |
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