| alkisg | Unfinished description at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-edubuntu-n-seed-review | 01:34 |
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| stgraber | hmm, indeed, fixed. | 01:38 |
| highvolt1ge | heh | 01:42 |
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| mhall119 | highvoltage: have you had a chance to do anything with debmower? | 04:27 |
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| highvoltage | mhall119: yep, worked on it a bit on Friday, busy implementing the LXC parts that will isolate everything from the host, not completed yet but it's happening :) | 13:55 |
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| Firemouth | hello | 17:46 |
| Firemouth | i'm having some performance problems with client computers using edubuntu | 17:46 |
| Firemouth | i have two identical laptops, one is the server and one is booting off the network | 17:47 |
| Firemouth | im trying to use Tux Typing | 17:47 |
| Firemouth | it works fine on the server laptop | 17:47 |
| Firemouth | but its a slide show on the client | 17:47 |
| Firemouth | anyone have any suggestions on how to improve the performace on the client laptop? | 17:48 |
| Firemouth | maybe a step in the right direction... i verified the server is connected at 100mbits | 18:26 |
| Firemouth | is there a way i can check to see what speed the client is connected to the network? | 18:26 |
| Firemouth | it _should_ be connected at the same speed being the same hardware but i'd like to verify it so i can eliminate that as being a source of the problem | 18:27 |
| alkisg | Firemouth: are you using LTSP? | 18:31 |
| Firemouth | yes | 18:31 |
| alkisg | Do you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in lts.conf? | 18:31 |
| Firemouth | i do not know, i will check, do you know where i'd find that file to save me some time looking for it? :) | 18:31 |
| alkisg | Sure, do this: | 18:32 |
| alkisg | sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf | 18:32 |
| alkisg | And put the following into that file, if it's empty: | 18:32 |
| alkisg | [Default] | 18:32 |
| alkisg | LDM_DIRECTX=True | 18:32 |
| alkisg | Then reboot the client, you should see great improvement. | 18:32 |
| alkisg | BUT there's a security cost, so after trying it, go and read the ltsp docs | 18:32 |
| Firemouth | its a local lan so security isn't a concern | 18:33 |
| Firemouth | k got it in there, rebooting client | 18:33 |
| Firemouth | hmm | 18:35 |
| Firemouth | not seeing any improvement | 18:35 |
| Firemouth | do i need to reboot anything on the server? | 18:35 |
| Firemouth | i did a full reboot of the client | 18:35 |
| alkisg | Just the client | 18:36 |
| Firemouth | hm | 18:36 |
| alkisg | On the client, open a gnome terminal | 18:36 |
| alkisg | There, run this command: ltsp-localapps xterm | 18:36 |
| alkisg | An xterm will open | 18:36 |
| alkisg | On that xterm, run this command: getltscfg -a | 18:36 |
| alkisg | And paste the contents | 18:36 |
| Firemouth | says its not currently installed | 18:37 |
| alkisg | You missed something | 18:37 |
| alkisg | Did an xterm open? | 18:37 |
| Firemouth | sorry i must be missing something | 18:37 |
| Firemouth | i did Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal | 18:38 |
| Firemouth | are you looking for something different? | 18:38 |
| Firemouth | oh crap | 18:38 |
| Firemouth | i missed a step, sorry | 18:38 |
| alkisg | :) | 18:38 |
| Firemouth | ok | 18:38 |
| Firemouth | got the xterm jup | 18:38 |
| Firemouth | up* | 18:38 |
| alkisg | That's called a "local xterm". Run that `getltscfg -a` command there. | 18:39 |
| Firemouth | LDM_DIRECTX="True" | 18:39 |
| Firemouth | export LDM_DIRECTX | 18:39 |
| alkisg | OK. Continue with: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA | 18:39 |
| Firemouth | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] [10de:01d8] (reva1) | 18:41 |
| Firemouth | Subsystem: Sony Corporation Device [104d:81e6] | 18:41 |
| Firemouth | Kernel driver in use: nouveau | 18:41 |
| alkisg | OK, I don't see anything bad there | 18:42 |
| Firemouth | is there a way to confirm the client is connected @ 100mbits ? | 18:42 |
| alkisg | E.g. you should be able to watch full screen video with no lost frames | 18:42 |
| alkisg | Sure, with the ip command | 18:42 |
| alkisg | Let me find the exact syntax... | 18:42 |
| alkisg | (so that you don't have to install ethtool...) | 18:43 |
| Firemouth | oh | 18:43 |
| Firemouth | already installed it | 18:43 |
| alkisg | In the chroot? | 18:43 |
| Firemouth | not sure, i did sudo apt-get install ethtool on the server | 18:43 |
| alkisg | Then nope :) | 18:43 |
| Firemouth | hehe k | 18:43 |
| alkisg | Hmmm more difficult than I thought :D | 18:48 |
| alkisg | OK, try this: | 18:48 |
| Firemouth | yeah i was playing with it, not getting anywhere | 18:48 |
| alkisg | Open lts.conf again, and add this at its bottom: | 18:48 |
| Firemouth | k | 18:48 |
| alkisg | SCREEN_02=shell | 18:48 |
| alkisg | Reboot the client. | 18:48 |
| alkisg | When it boots, press alt+ctrl+f2 | 18:48 |
| alkisg | There, run: apt-get install ethtool | 18:48 |
| alkisg | And then: ethtool eth0 | 18:48 |
| Firemouth | k | 18:49 |
| Firemouth | installing... | 18:50 |
| Firemouth | or so i thought, doing an update | 18:50 |
| Firemouth | thats better | 18:51 |
| alkisg | (the installation there is not permanent, it's the exported disk which is like a tmpfs ) | 18:51 |
| Firemouth | or not | 18:52 |
| Firemouth | ah | 18:52 |
| Firemouth | ok well its not able to get it | 18:52 |
| Firemouth | :-/ | 18:52 |
| Firemouth | it can pign google | 18:52 |
| Firemouth | so dns / routing / internet access is good | 18:52 |
| Firemouth | went in just fine on the server | 18:53 |
| alkisg | apt-get update && apt-get install ethtool, can't get ethtool? | 18:53 |
| Firemouth | trying | 18:53 |
| Firemouth | i ran those two separately already thought | 18:53 |
| Firemouth | update then install | 18:53 |
| alkisg | OK | 18:53 |
| alkisg | If your server has the same arch, try scp user@server:/usr/sbin/ethtool /tmp/ | 18:54 |
| Firemouth | Failed to fetch http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/pool/main/e/ethtool/ethtool_2.6.34-2_i386.deb Size mismatch | 18:54 |
| Firemouth | that domain name looks wrong eh | 18:54 |
| alkisg | Ah it's your sources.list | 18:55 |
| alkisg | You can scp it from the server if you want | 18:55 |
| Firemouth | k trying that | 18:55 |
| alkisg | /etc/apt/sources.list | 18:55 |
| Firemouth | hm | 18:56 |
| Firemouth | no such file or directory | 18:56 |
| Firemouth | (on the ethtool) | 18:56 |
| alkisg | Try `ls /usr/sbin/ethtool` on the server | 18:57 |
| Firemouth | no such file or dir | 18:57 |
| alkisg | Didn't you say you installed it? | 18:57 |
| alkisg | sudo apt-get install ethtool | 18:58 |
| Firemouth | got the sources | 18:58 |
| Firemouth | sure did | 18:58 |
| Firemouth | yeah i used it to cehck the link speed on the server | 18:58 |
| alkisg | which ethtool | 18:58 |
| alkisg | That tells you where it's installed | 18:59 |
| alkisg | It should be in /usr/sbin/ethtool | 18:59 |
| Firemouth | /sbin/ethtool | 18:59 |
| Firemouth | im trying to do the update / install again | 18:59 |
| alkisg | Is that edubuntu? Which version? | 18:59 |
| alkisg | In my Lucid, it's in /usr/sbin/ethtool | 18:59 |
| Firemouth | yup, edubuntu | 18:59 |
| Firemouth | 10.10 | 19:00 |
| Firemouth | but | 19:00 |
| Firemouth | i got the ethtool installed on the client by copying the source file | 19:00 |
| Firemouth | showing 100mbits | 19:00 |
| Firemouth | so thats not it | 19:00 |
| alkisg | Right. So you're as good as it gets | 19:00 |
| alkisg | E.g. if you try to play a divx video on the client, you should be able to watch it full screen with no dropped frames | 19:00 |
| Firemouth | interesting | 19:01 |
| Firemouth | tux typing doestn want to seem to do it | 19:01 |
| Firemouth | i'd like to try testing something like you're saying, any suggestions how to easily test the video liek you're saying? | 19:01 |
| Firemouth | try youtube or something? | 19:01 |
| alkisg | Btw seems that ethtool got moved from lucid to maverick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/ethtool/filelist vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/i386/ethtool/filelist | 19:01 |
| alkisg | So that's why you couldn't find it in /usr/sbin/ethtool | 19:02 |
| Firemouth | ahhh | 19:02 |
| alkisg | Not flash | 19:02 |
| alkisg | Open something in totem | 19:02 |
| Firemouth | k, gotta erboot the client, i removed taht shell line | 19:02 |
| alkisg | No need keep it till you get it right | 19:03 |
| alkisg | You can return to your GUI with alt+ctrl+f7 | 19:03 |
| Firemouth | oh | 19:03 |
| Firemouth | hm there arent any sample videos on here are there? | 19:04 |
| Firemouth | (this is basically a fresh install) | 19:04 |
| alkisg | No idea, just get one from the net, e.g. http://www.greektube.org/download.php?vid=89683 | 19:06 |
| Firemouth | k downloading | 19:07 |
| Firemouth | hm | 19:11 |
| Firemouth | needs some codecs | 19:11 |
| Firemouth | tries to install them but fails | 19:12 |
| Firemouth | untrusted packages | 19:12 |
| Firemouth | and just fails lol | 19:12 |
| Firemouth | lemme try something else | 19:12 |
| Firemouth | and im drawing a total blank lol | 19:13 |
| Firemouth | k i think i got soemthign to test | 19:16 |
| Firemouth | gimmie just a few min | 19:16 |
| Firemouth | i have an avi and wmv | 19:17 |
| Firemouth | good grief | 19:21 |
| Firemouth | i cant install these plugins | 19:21 |
| Firemouth | gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly | 19:21 |
| Firemouth | gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg | 19:21 |
| Firemouth | gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 | 19:22 |
| Firemouth | ok, gpupdate looks like it fixed taht problem | 19:25 |
| Firemouth | wow | 19:27 |
| Firemouth | there it goes | 19:27 |
| Firemouth | watching clerks no problem | 19:27 |
| Firemouth | thats amazing | 19:28 |
| alkisg | Right. So your setup is fine. | 19:28 |
| alkisg | Anything else is app specific | 19:28 |
| Firemouth | well that just sucks then, lol | 19:28 |
| alkisg | E.g. full screen flash sucks because it doesn't use XV | 19:28 |
| Firemouth | gotcha | 19:28 |
| alkisg | SDL also sucks sometimes (tux* uses SDL afaik) | 19:28 |
| Firemouth | i guess i dont get it then, rhetorical question.... why would they package edubuntu with tux typing if it cant be used via thin client... | 19:29 |
| Firemouth | unless it just wasnt meant to be used that way? | 19:29 |
| Firemouth | i'm new to this virtual desktop stuff so i'm not well versed on the limitations | 19:30 |
| Firemouth | this is just amazing to me though | 19:30 |
| Firemouth | streaming a movie | 19:30 |
| Firemouth | (i'm easily amazed at times) | 19:30 |
| alkisg | That's not streaming in the usual sense | 19:31 |
| alkisg | It's just remote X | 19:31 |
| Firemouth | ah | 19:31 |
| Firemouth | however it's doing it, its doing it ;) | 19:32 |
| alkisg | So while the movie is encoded at e.g. 1 mbps, you're using 50 mbps | 19:32 |
| alkisg | Because the movie travels unencoded, uncompressed | 19:32 |
| Firemouth | interesting | 19:32 |
| Firemouth | server is holding steady @ 10.9mbits | 19:32 |
| alkisg | So all the decoding happens on the server, so your client could be e.g. just 300 mhz | 19:32 |
| alkisg | Then it's a small movie. You can use any movie up to 95 mbps with your current network | 19:33 |
| Firemouth | yeah its a 600mbish file | 19:34 |
| Firemouth | not the best copy, hehe | 19:34 |
| Firemouth | sweet | 19:36 |
| Firemouth | well thank you for all your help | 19:36 |
| alkisg | np | 19:36 |
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