[02:05] <head_victim> blahdeblah & other Brisbanites : just thought I'd let you know I went into to humbug yesterday afternoon for the first time ever. I wasn't there long really only went to drop off the CDs for use in O week this week at the uni. I have given them a bit of an intro to what we are and what we do and they were even willing to put the team business cards into the CD sleeves. They are interested in collaboration with other Unix/Linux grou
[02:05] <head_victim> ps in the area as well so I was thinking we should organise a Ubuntu-AU envoy there one meeting and give a short presentation on who we are and what we do and how best to work together.
[02:09] <Phlosten> an envoy? sounds all UN like
[02:11] <head_victim> Phlosten: Heh well before I went there last night their previous efforts were directed towards a previous team member who didn't really offer much assistance.
[03:42] <gggs> my fat32 partition seems to change its name every time I reboot, breaking my symlinks, any way to stop it?
[03:44] <dns53> you mounting it by uuid or device name?
[03:47] <gggs> gnome (auto); I just select `85GB filesystem' and it mounts
[03:49] <gggs> should I add it to /etc/fstab ?
[03:52] <dns53> probably, use blkid to find a uuid and use that to mount your partition
[04:02] <gggs> if it's already mounted, can I take the mount config & give it a permanent descriptor?
[04:20] <dns53> well you just add another entry to your /ect/fstab,       UUID=b8c1b682-1acf-4403-be2b-de549ea14f03 /mountpoint vfat defaults 0 0    and that should automatically mount it on boot
[04:23] <gggs> oh thanks, I'm reading through the fstab manpage now
[04:24] <gggs> must've been an issue with a changing label & therefore different mountpoints
[04:25] <dns53> well you could use LABEL=xxxx instead but uuid works better as it is more likely to be unique
[04:26] <gggs> would the UUID change if I resized the partition?
[04:26] <dns53> it would
[04:29] <gggs> ah, then that'd be why
[04:41] <gggs> nice, mounted to the right place! one last question on fstab, my mount options are "rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush", do I need the uhelper/flush/* options
[04:44] <gggs> seems rather complex for an old & simple fs like FAT
[04:47] <dns53> well you are setting the user id and file permissions, you might not need the flush options
[04:51] <gggs> mount manpage says flush `will try to flush the disk more early than normal' (?), nothing in there about nodev, uhelper, or shortname
[04:57] <dns53> shortname is a vfat option, originally you could only have 8 + 3 character file names so they added 255 character file names to windows 95, probably not needed as an option as it should be the default
[04:59] <dns53> flush suggests not to buffer things into memory, probably safer but if you shut down things normally it does not matter
[05:06] <gggs> ok, thanks