[01:14] <cprofitt> hello all... ubuntu-us-ny finally got its website updated
[01:14] <cprofitt> http://newyork-ubuntu.com/
[01:14] <cprofitt> thanks to jaricanese7 a new member of the team 
[01:14] <cprofitt> feel free to give us any feedback -- it would be welcomed
[01:18] <Ronnie> cprofitt: there is an ubuntu theme for drupal: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme
[01:19] <Ronnie> maybe you can use that one, to make the different websites more consistent
[01:19]  * cprofitt nods
[01:20] <cprofitt> I can see making them more similar and keeping them different as both having value
[01:20] <cprofitt> I will bring it up to the team and see what they think
[01:20] <mhall119> cprofitt: I'm pretty sure the theme is opensource too, so you can always copy and modify
[01:21] <cprofitt> mhall119: cool
[01:21] <Ronnie> cprofitt: you can also look at the navigation. It feels unnatural to have main navigations ending on an external webpage
[01:21] <mhall119> the only restrictions are on using the ubuntu branding, but since it's for a loco team you're well within the terms of use
[01:21] <cprofitt> I just gave the web guru the link
[01:21] <cprofitt> Ronnie: I agree...  but I do not want two locations for 'events'
[01:22] <cprofitt> probably pull that one down off the main nav
[01:22] <mhall119> cprofitt: you can make the Events link go to a page that discusses the types of events your team does, and that page can then have a link to loco.u.c
[01:22] <cprofitt> I need to be gentle with the process... it has taken 13 months to get a person intereted in building the site
[01:22] <cprofitt> mhall119: yep
[01:22] <cprofitt> good idea
[01:25] <cprofitt> I may want to talk to him about the copyright too...
[01:25] <Ronnie> cprofitt: i know how it feels to get things done, but no interested people. A lot of dutch community members wants a new forum theme, but there is not much help from the my community
[01:25] <mhall119> Ronnie: can you take a look at http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/events/
[01:26] <cprofitt> Ronnie: yeah... it has been a slow process to get the LoCo off the ground...
[01:26] <cprofitt> and some of the old 'stalwarts' left as we opened the LoCo up and replacing them is taking time
[01:26] <Ronnie> mhall119: yes, is it the map thats not working?
[01:27] <cprofitt> mhall119: so you are pulling the loco.ubuntu.com in to the ubuntu-fl.org?
[01:27] <Ronnie> cprofitt: its a developer version
[01:27] <cprofitt> ah
[01:28] <cprofitt> I like the map feature
[01:28] <Ronnie> with non-private data from loco.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <Ronnie> thx ;)
[01:28] <cprofitt> that will help people find the places
[01:28] <mhall119> Ronnie: yeah
[01:28] <mhall119> cprofitt: yeah, that's my server, so it's a convenient place to run a test instance
[01:29] <mhall119> the map feature is even nicer when it's working
[01:29] <cprofitt> the pictures and attendees is nice
[01:29] <cprofitt> gives it a meetup feel to it
[01:30] <Ronnie> the maps has even round corners in the beta of firefox 4
[01:30] <cprofitt> Cool....
[01:30] <mhall119> Ronnie: but any idea why the map isn't showing event locations?
[01:30] <mhall119> it works on my local system
[01:31] <Ronnie> running firebug, and received an error
[01:31] <cjohnston> mhall119: I think on http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/events/ that the columns for the time dont go to a second line.. if an event goes to a second line, it should be due to the event name, not the time
[01:31] <cprofitt> is there a screen shot of that drupal theme I can show the developer?
[01:32] <cjohnston> cprofitt: it looks mostly like loco directory
[01:32] <mhall119> cjohnston: yeah, I noticed that yesterday
[01:32] <Ronnie> mhall119: could you check the MEDIA_URL setting, looks like the markers cannot be founs
[01:32] <mhall119> simple fix.  File a bug
[01:33] <mhall119> Ronnie: http://pastebin.com/UMraHYLr
[01:33] <cprofitt> ah... here is the developer... jaricanese7 
[01:34] <cprofitt> meeting mhall119 and Ronnie who are excellent developers
[01:34] <cprofitt> they are building the loco.ubuntu.com application
[01:34] <Ronnie> mhall119: somehow the url is: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/media//img/marker.png instead of http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/media/img/marker.png
[01:34] <mhall119> hi jaricanese7 
[01:34] <Ronnie> hey jaricanese7
[01:34] <jaricanese7> Hey mhall119 & Ronnie
[01:35] <mhall119> Ronnie: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/media//img/marker.png loads just fine
[01:35] <Ronnie> oh, it just took longer here. but right
[01:35] <Ronnie> il look furter
[01:35] <mhall119> thanks
[01:38] <cprofitt> mhall119: is loco.ubuntu.com built on drupal?
[01:38] <mhall119> nope, django
[01:38] <cprofitt> django... that is Python?
[01:38] <mhall119> mtechnology did the drupal theme
[01:38] <mhall119> yes, django is python
[01:38] <cprofitt> that is the one I want to eventually get around too then
[01:39] <mhall119> MTecknology that is
[01:39] <mhall119> in #ubuntu-website
[01:39] <mhall119> cprofitt: cjohnston and I are teaching a class on hacking LD during UDW
[01:39] <mhall119> if you can make it
[01:39] <cprofitt> is MTecknology they guy from RIT?
[01:39] <cprofitt> I will try to make it
[01:40] <mhall119> not sure what RIT is
[01:40] <cprofitt> the issue for me with re-learning dev stuff is the kids are relentless in the make noise department
[01:40] <cprofitt> RIT is a university
[01:40] <cprofitt> We had a guy in the NY LoCo with a name that was simialr...
[01:41] <cprofitt> but MTeck might be a different person -- my memory is fuzzy
[01:42] <mhall119> Ronnie: are you getting the "Cannot call method 'lat' on undefined"?
[01:42] <Ronnie> no, but i can imagine why the error popup
[01:43] <Ronnie> how do you debug?
[01:45] <Ronnie> cprofitt: if you like the map feature, you probably like this: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/events/venues/add/ (working version)
[01:47] <Ronnie> mhall119: i only get "a is undefined"
[01:50] <mhall119> Ronnie: I'm using firebug to try and track it down
[01:51] <mhall119> the results from the /locations/ service are identical on both my localhost and family.ubuntu-fl.org
[01:51] <cprofitt> Ronnie: nice
[01:54] <Ronnie> mhall119: debug @ 196 of jquery-ubuntu-maps.js. the marker_list is single string
[01:55] <Ronnie> looks like a split is going wrong somewhere
[01:58] <Ronnie> mhall119: the json returned is wrong
[01:58] <Ronnie> it got quotes arount the main list
[01:59] <Ronnie> therefore it is seen as string instead of list
[02:00] <Ronnie> what version of django and ubuntu do you run on family and local?
[02:03] <mhall119> quotes?
[02:03] <Ronnie> mhall119: yes
[02:03] <Ronnie> look at the returned json
[02:03] <mhall119> 1.1.1 on family.ubuntu-fl.org
[02:03] <mhall119> 1.1.1 on localhost
[02:04] <mhall119> 1.1.2 that is
[02:04] <mhall119> for localhost
[02:04] <mhall119> they both return the exact same content
[02:04] <mhall119> I called both with curl, then: diff family.json localhost.json
[02:04] <mhall119> and diff didn't see any difference
[02:05] <Ronnie> ah, its the $.get that return another value
[02:06] <Ronnie> mhall119: can you check the jquery versions
[02:09] <mhall119> 1.3.2 on family.ufl
[02:09] <Ronnie> the newer jquery version translates the string to an javascript object, the older does not
[02:09] <mhall119> 1.4.2 on localhost
[02:09] <Ronnie> thats the difference
[02:09] <Ronnie> so i need to find a lib or function that translated string to json
[02:09] <mhall119> and 1.3.2 on loco.ubuntu.com too, so we better figure out a fix for this
[02:10] <Ronnie> i guess this function is the one responsable (included in 1.4.1 http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.parseJSON/ )
[02:15] <mhall119> okay, I've got a fix
[02:15] <Ronnie> the solution is not that hard, but IE is a pain in the a** because it does not support JSON.pasre
[02:15] <mhall119> eval() will do the trick just fine
[02:16] <Ronnie> eval is a very ugly function
[02:16] <Ronnie> and should never be used actually
[02:16] <mhall119> what's wrong with it?
[02:16] <Ronnie> its dangerous and error phrone
[02:17] <Ronnie> mhall119: you really have to look this video once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQVTIJBZook
[02:19] <mhall119> Ronnie: okay, jquery 1.3.2 has $.getJSON instead of $.get
[02:19] <mhall119> can I use that instead? it seems to work fine
[02:20] <Ronnie> mhall119: let me have a look
[02:20] <Ronnie> mhall119: have a try
[02:21] <Ronnie> yeey :D
[02:21] <Ronnie> ill make an update of my script on the wiki page
[02:22] <mhall119> ok
[02:22] <mhall119> can I have you quickly review my merge once it's on LP?
[02:24] <Ronnie> yes i will
[02:24] <mhall119> https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/old-jquery-map-fix/+merge/50494
[02:25] <mhall119> I'm going to go ahead and apply it to the production branch too, so that it'll be there when they deploy 0.3.1
[02:28]  * mhall119 notes to downgrade his local jquery for testing
[02:28] <Ronnie> mhall119: that means that the other 2/3 merges are also applied to production
[02:28] <mhall119> Ronnie: no, I just cherry-picked the one revision's changes
[02:28] <mhall119> bzr is magical and lets you do things like that
[02:29] <Ronnie> oh, cool, didnt know that
[02:29] <mhall119> bzr merge -r 404..405 lp:~mhall119/loco-directory/old-jquery-map-fix
[02:29] <mhall119> merges in just the changes between 404 and 405
[02:30] <mhall119> and when we go to merge future trunk into production, bzr will know that it already has that rev, and won't have a problem merging it again
[02:31] <Ronnie> mhall119: so you have somewhere IE7 running?
[02:31] <mhall119> nope
[02:31] <mhall119> I do at work, but I'm windows-free at home
[02:31] <Ronnie> the fix works for me, but maybe not for IE7 users
[02:31] <mhall119> well, if they're still using IE7, it won't be their only problem
[02:32] <Ronnie> IE7 has no JSON.parse native call
[02:32] <mhall119> is that what jQuery.getJSON calls?
[02:32] <Ronnie> i guess, but am not sure
[02:32]  * mhall119 is happy to rely on jquery to be cross-browser compatible
[02:32] <Ronnie> because the parseJSON non-native is included on 1.4.1 http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.parseJSON/ 
[02:33] <mhall119> hmm...
[02:35] <Ronnie> i can do a call in my community to test in IE7
[02:40] <Ronnie> i guess their all sleeping
[02:40] <Ronnie> its 03:40 here, that remembers me to go to sleep too
[03:06] <mhall119> g'night ronnie
[03:47] <nigelb> morning
[04:04] <paultag> hey nigelb 
[04:04] <nigelb> hey paultag! Congrats on the fluxbox release
[04:04] <paultag> nigelb: thanks! It took a lot of hard work
[04:04] <paultag> the fluxbox team rocks
[04:05] <nigelb> :)
[09:10] <YoBoY> good morning
[09:13]  * YoBoY is baking a chocolat cake for the Paris ubuntu party preparation workshop benevolents
[15:18] <mhall119> Ronnie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/NavigationUsability let me know your thoughts on the Design section
[15:20] <cjohnston> are there currently any external links in the sub nav
[15:20] <Ronnie> cjohnston: yes, the join team
[15:20] <Ronnie> which links to LP
[15:20] <Ronnie> mhall119: the design looks very good
[15:27] <mhall119> Ronnie: cjohnston: What do you think about the rule to make all action link in-page?
[15:28] <mhall119> is "Add Team Event" a navigation or an action?  I'd say action, but would we want it in-page instead of in the sub-nav?
[15:29] <mhall119> if we do it in-page, we can use + icons or something to draw the user's attention to it
[15:30] <Ronnie> mhall119: i think indeed that the action links should be in page and not in the NAVIGATION
[15:30] <mhall119> right now "Register for this event" and "Add agenda Item" are above their respective list/table, should we make that a rule as well?
[15:30] <Ronnie> i also think that the meeting/event part should be restyled, and made larger
[15:31] <Ronnie> its an important part of loco
[15:31] <mhall119> I agree
[15:32] <mhall119> how about the edit/delete/copy actions on an event or meeting?
[15:32] <mhall119> where in the page can we put those?
[15:33] <Ronnie> mhall119: good question
[15:33] <Ronnie> we need to think about that, its a very majour change
[15:35]  * mhall119 adds Proposed and Needed rules to the wiki spec
[15:36] <mhall119> if you guys can take a look at it again
[15:43] <Ronnie> mhall119: in a moment, just testing aother django app
[15:50] <cjohnston> I think add event/add meeting is a 'main' point.. and should be sub-nav unless we do some sort of major design overhaul.. it doesnt fit anywhere else
[15:50] <cjohnston> add comment, add agenda, register all in page in their sections
[15:51] <mhall119> cjohnston: but that breaks the "only navigation links in the navigation" rule
[15:52] <cjohnston> it does go to a new page tho.. where add comment add agenda etc arent really new pages
[15:52] <cjohnston> expecially now that when you complete the add event you go to the event page, not back to the team page
[15:53] <mhall119> technically it's a new page, from the user perspective it's an action not a navigation
[15:53] <mhall119> cjohnston: I added a "Comments" section to the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/NavigationUsability
[15:53] <cjohnston> where would you propose putting it on the team page
[15:53] <mhall119> cjohnston: I don't know yet
[15:54] <cjohnston> I can't think of anywhere on the current design that it would get the attention it needs
[15:54] <mhall119> so should we change the "only navigation link in the navigation bar" rule?
[15:55] <mhall119> or dedicate an area of the page below sub-nav but above content for action links?
[15:55] <cjohnston> until something better is determined
[15:55] <cjohnston> so a tripple sub?
[15:55] <cjohnston> triple
[15:55] <mhall119> more like a toolbar
[15:55] <cjohnston> or make add event add meetings buttons
[15:55] <mhall119> hmmm, buttons might work
[15:56] <cjohnston> thats how fb is
[15:56] <cjohnston> i dont know much about any others
[15:58] <Ronnie> the big orange buttons could work very good
[16:29] <mhall119> cjohnston: Ronnie: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/teams/ubuntu-us-florida
[16:30] <mhall119> although according to the rules I made up, the 2 "add" links should be down by the event & meetings list
[16:32] <mhall119> maybe we can put all action links in a toolbar like that?
[16:32] <cjohnston> I would make the buttons orange with white text and align right
[16:33] <mhall119> I tried that, but it really clashed with the header
[16:34] <cjohnston> align right and move the 'details' back up
[16:35] <cjohnston> page 23 of the website guide mhall119 
[16:35] <cjohnston> those clash?
[16:38] <cjohnston> or look at the ubuntu_color_palette doc.. if you look at the bottom page it says:
[16:38] <cjohnston> Our colour palette consists of Orange, Aubergine,
[16:38] <cjohnston> White and Warm Grey. The amount of colour we use for
[16:38] <cjohnston> Community and Canonical collateral varies according to
[16:38] <cjohnston> the emphasis of the content.
[16:38] <cjohnston> For instance, for Community-focused materials,
[16:38] <cjohnston> Orange is the predominant colour and Aubergine
[16:38] <cjohnston> is used as a highlight.
[16:38] <cjohnston> Right now we use 0 aubergine
[16:38] <cjohnston> we could use that for the buttons.. as that would definatly fit highlight
[16:41] <mhall119> cjohnston: refresh http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/teams/ubuntu-us-florida
[16:41] <mhall119> what do you want to make abergine?
[16:42] <cjohnston> the buttons
[16:44] <mhall119> refresh for abergine buttons
[16:45] <mhall119> well, they do stand out
[16:45] <cjohnston> can i see it aligned right
[16:45] <cjohnston> i would do align right and in the content section on the right side of the page
[16:46] <cjohnston> right above the team image
[16:48] <mhall119> above the team image, or above the microblog feed?
[16:48] <cjohnston> neither are showing on your page.. 1 sec
[16:48] <cjohnston> lemme look
[16:49] <cjohnston> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-florida
[16:49] <cjohnston> the logo needs to be centered
[16:49] <cjohnston> i thought it was
[16:49] <cjohnston> but right above the loco
[16:49] <cjohnston> i dont see the microblog feed
[16:49] <mhall119> the layout changed, check on family.u.c
[16:50] <cjohnston> on family i dont see a team image or microblog
[16:51] <mhall119> refresh it
[16:52] <mhall119> Ronnie: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/teams/ubuntu-ru language list goes behind the mugshot
[16:52] <cjohnston> o
[16:52] <cjohnston> i see a little bitty image now
[16:52] <mhall119> yeah
[16:52] <cjohnston> ok.. over where the image was on the current live
[16:52] <mhall119> 64x64 isn't exactly little bitty
[16:53] <cjohnston> little considering what it was
[16:53] <mhall119> cjohnston: that's how I have it on family.ufl now
[16:53] <cjohnston> the content on the left still needs to go back up to the top
[16:53] <cjohnston> i see that
[16:53] <cjohnston> there is a huge gap between sub-nav and 'florida loco teal'
[16:53] <mhall119> hmm, that layout will be problematic
[16:54] <cjohnston> put it in the same content area as the microblog
[16:54] <mhall119> that content area has a gray background
[16:54] <cjohnston> that should be fine
[16:55] <cjohnston> im trying to download a branch but cant 
[16:55] <cjohnston> boo
[16:56] <cjohnston> did we notice that on ubuntu.com the sub-nav and search were seperated
[16:57] <cjohnston> which would provide for allowing a search on the main page without a subnav
[16:57] <mhall119> yeah, they changed that at some point I think
[16:58] <mhall119> I hate that canonical and community have separate theme development
[16:58] <cjohnston> i think we need to do that so that we can get rid of the sub nav on the main page
[16:58] <cjohnston> or atleast if we got notified of changes
[16:59] <mhall119> cjohnston: can you add that to the wiki spec? or does your internet still suck?
[17:00] <mhall119> cjohnston: http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/teams/ubuntu-us-florida is that better? Moved team details block back up to where it was
[17:01] <cjohnston> done
[17:02] <mhall119> do you like the abergine buttons?
[17:02] <mhall119> they're growing on me
[17:02] <mhall119> Ronnie: what do you think of them?
[17:03] <cjohnston> yes
[17:03] <cjohnston> uggh internet sucking more
[17:03] <cjohnston> i dont see the spacing being fixed
[17:04] <cjohnston> team details blogck
[17:08] <cjohnston> bug 722224
[17:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 722224 in loco-directory "Should not get warning about needing to run ./manage.py init-ld when running init-ld (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722224
[17:13] <mhall119> cjohnston: it's there, I promise
[17:14] <cjohnston> if you say so
[17:14] <cjohnston> im gone
[17:14] <cjohnston> have a good day
[17:26] <Ronnie> mhall119: im back
[17:35] <Ronnie> mhall119: ""Add" action links should be above the list or table they will add to "  i think 'above' it too specific, it can be different for each +new item where to place it
[17:37]  * Ronnie boots gimp to play with the interface
[18:06] <mhall119> Ronnie: I'd like to make the rules as specific as possible so we're consistent
[19:04] <YoBoY> cjohnston: Ronnie: mhall119 : do you have a "blank" LD template to start tweaking the interface ?
[19:05] <Ronnie> YoBoY: if you want, you can look in the standard ubuntu-light django template
[19:05] <Ronnie> and the loco(newstyle) css file
[19:06] <Ronnie> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-django-theme
[19:06] <YoBoY> don't want to "code" (too much to learn yet) just play with gimp
[19:07] <Ronnie> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/view/head:/loco_directory/media/css/newstyle.css
[19:07] <Ronnie> YoBoY: with an ubuntu style gimp template i can help, moment
[19:08] <Ronnie> YoBoY: http://ubuntuone.com/p/ZrZ/ (you have to clean most layers, but it works)
[19:08] <Ronnie> its the template i use for our new forum theme
[19:08] <YoBoY> perfect :)
[19:10] <Ronnie> YoBoY: or you can use this one: http://ubuntuone.com/p/eEJ/
[19:10] <Ronnie> thats the one im currently use for editing, but is not so 'advanced'
[19:11] <YoBoY> better yes :) I can do the adjustments, thanks
[20:14] <Ronnie> mhall119, cjohnston, YoBoY: An first example of a new team page: http://ubuntuone.com/p/eF8/
[20:19] <YoBoY> Ronnie: mhall119 cjohnston : an exemple of what should be on the Teams sub menu for me http://yoboy.fr/images/teams.png
[20:19] <YoBoY> example
[20:21] <YoBoY> Ronnie: great :)
[20:22] <YoBoY>  I was thinking placing the events on the right too ^^
[20:23] <YoBoY> and the "+new ..." are just what we need
[20:23] <Ronnie> YoBoY: your menu's logic s looks good
[20:24] <Ronnie> I think the resources part still needs more clarification
[20:24] <Ronnie> teams page ^
[20:26] <Ronnie> we also need an "edit" icon
[20:26] <YoBoY> another example http://yoboy.fr/images/Events.png 
[20:28] <Ronnie> i think we need to rename "past events" to "Archieve"
[20:31] <YoBoY> can you make some "new style" icons for the rss and calendar ?
[20:32] <Ronnie> i think we need to ask the artworkers, i can do some artworking, but the persons from the artwork team are very much better
[20:32] <YoBoY> yes ^^"
[20:33] <YoBoY> i have done some but it's really not like them :p
[20:46] <mhall119> Ronnie: I'm worried about the team page being too compacted
[20:46] <mhall119> that's a lot of info in a small space
[20:47] <mhall119> I do like the meeting and events list that way though
[20:49] <mhall119> Ronnie: doctormo has done icons for us in the past, he might be able to help again
[20:49] <Ronnie> i think giving the photo's more spacing, and the meeting/event items more spacing the page look less compacted
[20:49] <Ronnie> maybe move the "join team" button back to the right will help too
[20:50] <mhall119> Ronnie: we'd have to move it to make room for other buttons
[20:50] <mhall119> +1 on more space for phtos
[20:50] <mhall119> photos
[21:14] <Ronnie> mhall119: some improvement in the spacing: http://ubuntuone.com/p/eF8/
[21:18] <YoBoY> stupid question... why ther is no link "show more photos" ? we invite the users to go to the external site to watch more ?
[21:20] <Ronnie> YoBoY: good question
[21:20] <YoBoY> I don't use it so I never noticed it's missing ^^"
[21:22] <Ronnie> YoBoY: refresh the link and the link should be there
[21:26] <YoBoY> great but ... :p
[21:27] <YoBoY> we use also pix.ie and picasa, this make it difficult to send to the right place
[21:30] <YoBoY> Ronnie: the right part, it's "all locos" or the loco team presented only ?
[21:32] <Ronnie> YoBoY: refresh ^^^
[21:32] <YoBoY> Parfait :)
[21:33] <Ronnie> YoBoY: any idea about how to improve the resources ?
[21:34] <YoBoY> i'm already thinking about it
[21:34] <YoBoY> i don't like them like that
[21:34] <YoBoY> and for my team there is not enought ressources :p
[21:35] <Ronnie> lol ;)
[21:35] <Ronnie> YoBoY: if you need to GIMP file: http://ubuntuone.com/p/eEJ/
[21:36] <YoBoY> thanks
[21:37] <Ronnie>  what version of GIMP do you have?
[21:38] <Ronnie> if you have the developer version, the layers are grouped, which make thing much easier
[21:39] <YoBoY> I have the default one
[21:40] <YoBoY> 2.6.10
[21:41] <Ronnie> 2.7.2 beta is such an improvement, single window modus, layers grouping :D
[21:41] <Ronnie> pretty stable atm (was different in the past)
[21:42] <YoBoY> haaa... single window modus... dreaming of that feature :)
[21:45] <Ronnie> too bad you have to turn it on each restart
[21:47] <YoBoY> it's beta :D
[22:15] <mhall119> Ronnie: we use icons on the global events for the 3 picture services, maybe we should use them also on the team page?
[22:19] <Ronnie> mhall119: that could be a good idea
[22:21] <Ronnie> Last half hour i spended time on the "My Teams" page - Feedback is welcome: http://ubuntuone.com/p/eGI/
[22:27] <YoBoY> Ronnie: I want to be on more than one team now to see that in action :D
[22:28] <Ronnie> Yea, i have to admit, its an very effective overview
[22:29] <Ronnie> all the links you regualry need are available, all the dynamic info in one screen
[22:31] <Ronnie> YoBoY: its still the same GIMP file link, so if you need to tweak etc, you can download the .xcf file again
[22:31] <YoBoY> done
[22:32] <Ronnie> i hope you wont get lost in all the layers, if they are not grouped
[22:34] <Ronnie> YoBoY: what sub-nav links should fit on this page?
[22:36] <YoBoY> on the "My teams" page ?
[22:36] <Ronnie> YoBoY: yes
[22:37] <YoBoY> http://yoboy.fr/images/teams.png << these links, we have to make more consistent sub menus who don't change unless you change the top menu item
[22:38] <Ronnie> i guess most of that links are not very usefull on this page, but i cant think of any more usefull links, so for consistency i say +1
[22:39] <YoBoY> perhaps add an "all teams" link too, at the begining
[22:39] <Ronnie> I think "My Teams" should be at the beginngin
[22:39] <YoBoY> the about is also on the top menu, you can remove it
[22:40] <Ronnie> My Teams | Join a Team | Create a Team | All Teams | Approved Teams
[22:41] <YoBoY> why not :) it's the programmer choice ;)
[22:41] <Ronnie> My Teams | Approved Teams | All Teams | Join a Team | Create a Team
[22:42] <Ronnie> ^ is better, first 3 views (from less  to much) and then 2 informative pages about 'actions'
[22:42] <YoBoY> write that on the wiki page and wait for the comments on that point
[22:46] <mhall119> Ronnie and YoBoY you will both soon be on multiple teams, since we're going to open LD functionality to any community team that wants to use it
[22:46] <mhall119> s/soon/at some point in the forseeable future/
[22:46] <Ronnie> mhall119: i dont understand 'open LD functionality'
[22:46] <YoBoY> great but I'm not on many teams :)
[22:47] <mhall119> YoBoY: I know how to fix that too
[22:47] <mhall119> Ronnie: most of LD is generic enough to be useful to any team
[22:47] <Ronnie> mhall119: you mean, not restricted to loco teams
[22:47] <mhall119> Ronnie: right
[22:47] <Ronnie> cool
[22:48] <Ronnie> then the "My Teams" page will be very usefull
[22:48] <mhall119> it's going to take some heavy refactoring and setting up another site, but that's what planned
[22:48] <mhall119> Ronnie: yes, very useful
[22:48] <YoBoY> :p
[22:48] <Ronnie> yeeey :D
[23:01] <Ronnie> mhall119. YoBoY: why we need the link "Approved Teams" i cant see any use for a normal loco user
[23:02] <YoBoY> yes, it's not important for users
[23:03] <YoBoY> we can put it on the About LoCo or LoCo Council
[23:04] <Ronnie> yes, its very loco council targeted
[23:06] <Ronnie> but if we extend the website to not only loco-teams, we could make a sub-nav-item "LoCo Teams"
[23:06] <mhall119> Ronnie: there will be 2 sites: loco.ubuntu.com and ???.ubuntu.com
[23:07] <Ronnie> oke, but share the same code
[23:07] <mhall119> where ??? = "teams" or "global" or "community" or something
[23:07] <mhall119> share code and database
[23:07] <mhall119> so in theory you could have a loco team and a non-loco team be listed on a single event or meeting
[23:08] <mhall119> a good example would be a loco team and the loco-council team sharing a re-approval meeting 
[23:09] <mhall119> or a loco team and a development team both going to PyCon
[23:09] <Ronnie> oh great, i like the idea
[23:09] <mhall119> so basically the 2 sites will be 2 views of the same data
[23:40] <Ronnie> Both images updated a bit: http://ubuntuone.com/p/eF8/ and http://ubuntuone.com/p/eGI/
[23:56] <Ronnie> gnight everyone