[08:29] <Chat8754> hala pps
[17:01] <MrChrisDruif> MEETING!! :D:D:D
[17:03] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, I'm pinging people to see if there are available
[17:04] <gilir> if not, I'll cancel the meeting, I don't want to be the only one to talk :)
[17:04] <MichealH> :)
[17:04] <highvoltage> which meeting is it, btw?
[17:04] <MichealH> highvoltage, Lubuntu Meeting
[17:04] <MrChrisDruif> lubuntu deskto[
[17:04] <MrChrisDruif> s/[/p
[17:05] <UndiFineD> o/
[17:05] <MichealH> gilir, You have.... 4 people :P
[17:05] <gilir> :)
[17:06] <MichealH> Take to the stage
[17:08] <gilir> ok let's start it, at least, I'll make my annoucements :p
[17:08] <MichealH> :p
[17:08] <gilir> #startmeeting
[17:08] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:08. The chair is gilir.
[17:08] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:09] <gilir> Welcome to the Lubuntu Project Meeting
[17:09] <hajour> o/
[17:09] <gilir> You can find the full agenda on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Meetings/20110220
[17:09] <gilir> Say hello to appear in the logs ;)
[17:09] <UndiFineD> hai
[17:09] <MrChrisDruif> Hai :)
[17:10] <hajour> hello
[17:10] <MichealH> o/
[17:10] <MrChrisDruif> Hai hajour :)
[17:10] <gilir> [TOPIC] Previous items
[17:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Previous items
[17:11] <gilir> About items we had from the last meeting
[17:11] <gilir> All seeds modifications done (music player, archiver, webcam)
[17:12] <gilir> no big change should happen now
[17:12] <MrChrisDruif> Alright...great going?
[17:12] <gilir> no complain so far :)
[17:13] <UndiFineD> :)
[17:13] <gilir> about the control-center, there are still some problems with pcmanfm as a control center : useless columns and no entry translated for launching the control center
[17:13] <NRWlion> id like to attend the meeting as guest if possible
[17:13] <MrChrisDruif> NRWlion:  no problem...
[17:14] <gilir> So, I'll not add it in the menu until it's fixed
[17:15] <MrChrisDruif> Can make program suggestions here?
[17:15] <gilir> any questions about last meetings items ?
[17:15] <UndiFineD> makes a note to translate lubuntu control center
[17:16] <MrChrisDruif> did gucviewer or something reviewed?
[17:17] <MrChrisDruif> gilir: ^
[17:17] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, I think nobody tested it
[17:17] <gilir> or I missed the mail about it
[17:18] <MrChrisDruif> I heard about it 1 or two meetings back...to test a persons webcem with installation,..
[17:18] <MrChrisDruif> never heard anythign else about it..
[17:19] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, I'll ask again on the mailing list, just to be sure :)
[17:20] <gilir> [ACTION] Ask on the mailing list about gucviewer feedbacks
[17:20] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Ask on the mailing list about gucviewer feedbacks
[17:20] <MrChrisDruif> Was for livecd, I suddenly remembered...but indeed, ask please :)
[17:21] <gilir> ok, let's go to the next topic
[17:21] <gilir> [TOPIC] LightDM testing result
[17:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  LightDM testing result
[17:21] <gilir> I tested LightDM last weeks, to evaluate it over LXDM
[17:22] <gilir> There are still some bugs and work to do to make it a full replacement of LXDM
[17:22] <MrChrisDruif> gilir: but other than that?
[17:23] <gilir> I also don't have the time to properly test it and integrate it in Lubuntu
[17:23] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, it's good :) And I'm sure it will be very nice in the futur :)
[17:24] <MrChrisDruif> What are the pros and cons of lightdm vs lxdm
[17:24] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, you should look at the previous meeting, and the mailing for a detail description :)
[17:25] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, will do that...
[17:26] <gilir> to be short, lightdm will be better (more features, more devs ...) than LXDM, but it's not finished yet :)
[17:26] <UndiFineD> more devs is good :)
[17:26] <gilir> LXDM have the advantage to be already here, and a bit more tested
[17:26] <MrChrisDruif> gilir: alright, thanks :)
[17:26] <bioterror> 11.04 with lxdm and 11.10 maybe lightdm?
[17:27] <gilir> bioterror, yes, it's the current plan
[17:27] <gilir> and try to make lightdm useable for Lubuntu users for 11.04, to get more testing
[17:28] <gilir> any questions about this topic ?
[17:28] <MrChrisDruif> will it get regular update if it's for testing?
[17:29] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, it's already part of Ubuntu official repository, so yes :)
[17:30] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry...really need to read meeting logs :P
[17:30] <gilir> :)
[17:30] <gilir> [TOPIC] Testing new theme
[17:30] <MootBot> New Topic:  Testing new theme
[17:30] <gilir> A new theme from Raphael is available for testing on Lubuntu PPA
[17:31] <gilir> He would like to have feedbacks about it
[17:31] <gilir> Also, some tests with GtkPerf should be useful to validate that the new theme is not slower than the current one on 10.10
[17:31] <gilir> [LINK] https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03318.html
[17:31] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03318.html
[17:33] <gilir> So far, tests are good :) No problem in performance
[17:33] <MrChrisDruif> Great to hear gilir :)
[17:34] <gilir> not that it doesn't mean that it will be the next theme for Lubuntu
[17:34] <MrChrisDruif> I heard once on the irc channel someone had some problems....
[17:34] <gilir> We have still 1 month to decide
[17:34] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, do you have more details ?
[17:35] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, not precise....running from my own memory atm....but I thought it had something to do with the widgets or something :-/
[17:35] <MrChrisDruif> But it can be read in the logs...(so if anyone is willing :P)
[17:35] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, the problem with root windows, like update-manager ?
[17:36] <MrChrisDruif> gilir: I don't know...(I'm not even running Lubuntu at all)
[17:36]  * MrChrisDruif hides in the corner of shame
[17:36] <gilir> Raphael is aware of this, I hope he will find a solution
[17:37] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, if you remember some details, send a mail to Raphael, he will be happy to help :)
[17:37] <gilir> any questions about the theme ?
[17:38] <gilir> [TOPIC] Other items
[17:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  Other items
[17:39] <gilir> If you want to discuss other topics :)
[17:39] <MrChrisDruif> Alright..I got something for ya :P
[17:40] <MrChrisDruif> Someone asked on the channel if we had a character map thing, like gucharmap in ubuntu...
[17:40] <MrChrisDruif> So I suggested gucharmap to him....he said it didn't had any dependencies needed...
[17:40] <MrChrisDruif> We could think about adding it to the default applications list...
[17:41] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, ok, we need to evaluate it
[17:41] <MrChrisDruif> I understand :)
[17:41] <UndiFineD> is it still possible to make the virual desktop bigger than the actual screen size ? that would really help systems with small screens, as certain applications fall out of screensize , like synaptic
[17:42] <bioterror> gilir, run (alt+f2) seems to come from lxpanel?
[17:42] <gilir> [ACTION] evaluate gucharmap for inclusion
[17:42] <MootBot> ACTION received:  evaluate gucharmap for inclusion
[17:42] <gilir> bioterror, yes
[17:42] <MrChrisDruif> gilir: Should I put it on the mailing list? Or is mentioning it here enough?
[17:42] <bioterror> gilir, could it be part of some another app than lxpanel
[17:43] <gilir> UndiFineD, I don't think it's currently possible :(
[17:43] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, You can ask on the mailing list yes, to see if people have concern about it
[17:43] <UndiFineD> it used to be  possible with old X
[17:44] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: when I turn of gnome-panels run (alt+f2) is also disabled
[17:44] <gilir> bioterror, you mean if it could be replaced by something else ?
[17:44] <bioterror> gilir, if I kill lxpanel, you cant get it back easily ;)
[17:45] <gilir> UndiFineD, if you find some documentation about it, I can try to make it easier on Lubuntu, but no promise
[17:45] <UndiFineD> ok
[17:45] <gilir> bioterror, like gnome-panel ;) it's the same problem
[17:46] <bioterror> UndiFineD, you cant use virtual "800x600" in xorg.conf?
[17:46] <gilir> bioterror, but maybe we could evaluate synapse for the futur ;)
[17:46] <UndiFineD> bioterror: synaptic windows are longer than 600 pc
[17:46] <UndiFineD> px
[17:46] <bioterror> gilir, I just noticed that when I was changing calendar settings
[17:46] <bioterror> UndiFineD, it was example, what you want
[17:47] <bioterror> what ever youw ant it to be
[17:47] <UndiFineD> ok, I will have some play :)
[17:47] <bioterror> I can test, I have xorg.conf
[17:48] <gilir> ok, anything else for today ?
[17:50] <gilir> ok , let's close this one, thank everyone for your participation :)
[17:50] <gilir> #endmeeting
[17:50] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:50.
[17:50] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome gilir :)