| adub_ | anyone in here have hdmi sound working ?? | 00:07 |
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| === Azelphur is now known as zz_Azelphur | ||
| === zz_Azelphur is now known as Azelphur | ||
| era878 | can somebody assist me in adding mythbuntu to ubuntu 10.10. I have a Hauppauge_HVR-1600 and a dish network box vip222k | 03:16 |
| mycosys | sudo aptitude install mythbuntu | 03:18 |
| era878 | okay | 03:20 |
| era878 | which repository do i need to add because terminals says: Unable to locate package mythbuntu | 03:28 |
| mycosys | sorry - mythbuntu-desktop | 03:30 |
| era878 | okay | 03:30 |
| era878 | it says: if you install mythbuntu-desktop, future updates will not include new in the ubuntu desktop system set. Should i proceed? | 03:32 |
| tgm4883 | mythbuntu-desktop should only be used if you plan on turning the machine into a mythbuntu only machine | 03:33 |
| era878 | can i install it on my third harddrive and boot from there? | 03:33 |
| mycosys | if it is a mythn machine ur gonna want mythbackend running all the time | 03:34 |
| tgm4883 | era878, you can install it in ubuntu 10.10 machine just fine | 03:34 |
| mycosys | better off adding what u want to the machine | 03:34 |
| era878 | can you please explain how to | 03:34 |
| tgm4883 | mythbuntu-desktop just gives you the xfce desktop and themes and such | 03:34 |
| era878 | okay | 03:34 |
| tgm4883 | era878, what you want is this http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu | 03:35 |
| era878 | i see | 03:35 |
| mycosys | sudo aptitude install mythtv | 03:35 |
| Zinn | [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | mycosys, no | 03:35 |
| mycosys | ? | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | add MCC, then configure it from there | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | it installs what packages it needs | 03:35 |
| era878 | what? | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | era878, http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu | 03:35 |
| Zinn | [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu | 03:35 |
| era878 | oh control center? | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 03:36 |
| era878 | okay | 03:36 |
| mycosys | tricky | 03:36 |
| tgm4883 | then install the roles you want from there (frontend, backend, etc) | 03:36 |
| era878 | i just got the control center | 03:36 |
| era878 | what do i want primary backend, secondary backend, no front end, desktop frontend? | 03:37 |
| tgm4883 | era878, http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/mythbuntu-control-centre-mcc | 03:37 |
| tgm4883 | look at the roles section | 03:37 |
| Zinn | [mythbuntu.org] Mythbuntu Control Centre (MCC) | Mythbuntu | 03:37 |
| era878 | okay | 03:37 |
| era878 | can i have a front end and a desktop role? | 03:39 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 03:41 |
| era878 | okay im installing now | 03:42 |
| era878 | what should i configure next | 03:42 |
| tgm4883 | once you have the backend installed, you need to go though mythtv setup | 03:44 |
| tgm4883 | look for the install guide on the wiki | 03:44 |
| era878 | okay | 03:45 |
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| era878 | im setting up the backend now and im confused by this whole database thing | 04:10 |
| era878 | after selecting the language english in the backend setup a box pops up saying "no upnp" | 04:21 |
| era878 | what do i do? | 04:21 |
| era878 | how do i configure mythtv for dish network | 04:53 |
| mycosys | would suggest searching the wiki on mythtv.org | 04:54 |
| era878 | sure | 04:57 |
| hot_wheelz | I have mythexport installed now which allows me to stream recorded shows via myweb...What about live tv what is the go there? | 06:48 |
| hot_wheelz | anyone | 06:56 |
| mycosys | need a client that speaks myth protocol for that | 06:57 |
| mycosys | afaik that is only mythfrontend atm | 06:57 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys so u can only stream pre-recorded stuff via mythweb then | 07:00 |
| mycosys | yup | 07:01 |
| mycosys | if it is to windows, mythfrontend can be run on windows | 07:01 |
| hot_wheelz | another thing - what about ps3 as frontend? | 07:04 |
| mycosys | just use dlna | 07:05 |
| mycosys | aka upnp | 07:05 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys so so how how do enable that? becuse i tried going to tv on my ps3 but the myth frontend didn't appear...what am I missing? | 07:07 |
| mycosys | should be there :S | 07:08 |
| mycosys | does ps3 use dlna? | 07:08 |
| hot_wheelz | i belive so yeah | 07:09 |
| mycosys | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UPnP | 07:09 |
| Zinn | [www.mythtv.org] UPnP - MythTV | 07:09 |
| mycosys | apparently the ps3 just takes an age to find it hot_wheelz | 07:11 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys should be looking for a media server right? | 07:13 |
| hot_wheelz | it just said none found :-( | 07:13 |
| mycosys | give it time - read that link | 07:14 |
| mycosys | the ps3 doesnt search properly | 07:14 |
| hot_wheelz | what do u suggest i can't just give it an ip :-( | 07:16 |
| mycosys | ? | 07:16 |
| mycosys | wait | 07:16 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys ok :-) | 07:16 |
| mycosys | if sony hadnt taken ur right to install linux on it you could have had mythfrontend on there | 07:17 |
| mycosys | sony suck | 07:17 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys but is it still doable dispite this fact via upnp or not...should be right? | 07:20 |
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| hot_wheelz | mycosys followed http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=430 still no joy :-( | 07:34 |
| mycosys | did you do the wait bit after you did, keep using search on it in the hope it actually will | 07:52 |
| hot_wheelz | yes i did | 07:59 |
| mycosys | is it still on? | 07:59 |
| mycosys | try now | 07:59 |
| mycosys | any sign of it yet? | 08:09 |
| hot_wheelz | no | 08:16 |
| mycosys | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Sony_PlayStation_3 | 08:28 |
| Zinn | [www.mythtv.org] Sony PlayStation 3 - MythTV | 08:28 |
| mycosys | have you checked that your router is allowing data to go between the ps3 and the mythbox? | 08:28 |
| hot_wheelz | they're conneted to the same router so should be fine right? | 08:29 |
| mycosys | not necessarily | 08:29 |
| mycosys | many routers dont allow the ports on them to communicate by default | 08:30 |
| mycosys | most even | 08:30 |
| mycosys | will be a setiing on their web interface to allow it | 08:30 |
| mycosys | virtual lan, port communication, they call it a bunch of things | 08:30 |
| hot_wheelz | what should i look for then | 08:31 |
| mycosys | ur router manual would be my bet | 08:31 |
| hot_wheelz | look for upnp right? | 08:32 |
| mycosys | no | 08:32 |
| mycosys | tho that would be a good thing to enable too | 08:32 |
| mycosys | on a d-link it will be virtual lan | 08:33 |
| mycosys | what router do you have' | 08:33 |
| mycosys | ? | 08:33 |
| hot_wheelz | http://www.billion.com/product/adsl/bipac7402r2-firewall-adsl2-vpn-router.html | 08:33 |
| Zinn | [www.billion.com] Billion Products for SSL VPN, ADSL Modem/Router, Wireless ADSL Router, Powerline ADSL Router and Adapter, VoIP ADSL Modem/Router, Security Router, Broadband Router, SHDSL Bridge/Router, iBusiness Security, ISDN Product | 08:33 |
| mycosys | nice | 08:33 |
| hot_wheelz | do i need to port forward? | 08:34 |
| mycosys | nah | 08:35 |
| mycosys | asking some1 i know who has one o those | 08:35 |
| mycosys | can join us on efnet #desktops if u like | 08:35 |
| mycosys | just dont expect it to be as ....... clean as here | 08:36 |
| hot_wheelz | apreciate it - i'll wait for u come back to me :-) | 08:36 |
| mycosys | is a support channel - but we gave up on those sort o rules lol | 08:36 |
| mycosys | just too damn hard to enforce | 08:37 |
| Zinn | mycosys: Please watch your language. | 08:37 |
| mycosys | see what i mean by clean?????? | 08:37 |
| hot_wheelz | yep | 08:37 |
| mycosys | i wonder if i can mention the franklin dam? | 08:37 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys brb | 08:39 |
| mycosys | np | 08:39 |
| hot_wheelz | i am sure of one thing though | 08:40 |
| hot_wheelz | it'll be somthing simple i'm missing :-) | 08:41 |
| mycosys | apart from saying buy a tplink - he said the billion should be fine out of the box, but use latest firmware | 08:58 |
| mycosys | dinnertime | 08:58 |
| mycosys | suggest #mythtv | 08:58 |
| hot_wheelz | mycosys | 09:45 |
| mycosys | yars? | 10:00 |
| mycosys | hot_wheelz | 10:00 |
| hot_wheelz | i am alraedy running the latest f\w on my router | 10:14 |
| hot_wheelz | gtg check back in tomorrow :-) | 10:17 |
| kolo | hi all | 11:39 |
| mycosys | yo | 11:39 |
| kolo | i am running mythbuntu 10.10 | 11:39 |
| kolo | just trying to get wol working | 11:40 |
| mycosys | !ask | 11:40 |
| Zinn | Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. | 11:40 |
| mycosys | oh - fun | 11:40 |
| kolo | yes lol | 11:40 |
| kolo | i have both backend and frontend on same box | 11:40 |
| mycosys | would say try #ubuntu myself | 11:40 |
| mycosys | why wol then? | 11:40 |
| kolo | shcedule recording | 11:41 |
| kolo | using mythwelcome to shutdown | 11:41 |
| mycosys | you dont want wol | 11:41 |
| mycosys | you want rtc wake | 11:41 |
| kolo | no | 11:41 |
| kolo | i have anothe pc on network | 11:41 |
| kolo | so using a script to copy time of next schedule to that pc | 11:41 |
| mycosys | there are howtos for rtc - likely simpler | 11:42 |
| mycosys | unless ur bios doesnt support it | 11:42 |
| kolo | yea but cant get that to work ..rtc | 11:42 |
| kolo | i can wake the pc ok from the other pc using wakeonlan | 11:42 |
| kolo | i just need mythwelcome to copy the time to the remote pc using scp | 11:43 |
| kolo | no my problem | 11:43 |
| kolo | *now | 11:43 |
| mycosys | would prolly need mythbackend to do that | 11:43 |
| kolo | mythwelcome? | 11:43 |
| mycosys | could also just have the remote pc get it off mythweb | 11:43 |
| kolo | hmm how will i do that | 11:44 |
| mycosys | look in the code for the upcoming recordings page, or the server status page - there is code on both that displays the time of the next scheduled recording | 11:44 |
| mycosys | would save re-inventing the wheel | 11:45 |
| kolo | yea but i want that done by a script | 11:45 |
| kolo | i have a cron on the other pv | 11:45 |
| mycosys | wget for instance? | 11:45 |
| kolo | *pc | 11:45 |
| mycosys | rib some code out of mythweb - use wget to get the page, use readline to get the time | 11:46 |
| mycosys | *rip | 11:46 |
| mycosys | million other ways you could do it with the existing interfaces | 11:46 |
| kolo | yea but i want the time written when pc is shutting down | 11:46 |
| kolo | using mythwelcome to shutdown when idle | 11:47 |
| mycosys | actually - would be simpler to get it straight from the database - wake at the time for every recording - it will only wake it if it is sleeping | 11:47 |
| kolo | hmm | 11:48 |
| kolo | how will it get the time when the pc is off | 11:48 |
| kolo | i shutdown the pc | 11:48 |
| kolo | my problem is command to set wakeuptime in mythwelcome | 11:48 |
| kolo | it doesnt appear to be running my script | 11:49 |
| kolo | how do i troubleshoot mythwelcome | 11:49 |
| kolo | /home/mythtv/mythwakeup.sh --settime $time | 11:50 |
| mycosys | never used mythwelcome mate | 11:50 |
| mycosys | my machine is a server - up 24-7 to record and dl | 11:50 |
| kolo | ahh | 11:51 |
| mycosys | just told you 2 parts of myth tho that are designed to provide the info you want to remote machines | 11:51 |
| kolo | yea | 11:51 |
| kolo | its will work if machine is on all the time | 11:51 |
| kolo | mine will shutdown if it has nothing to do | 11:52 |
| mycosys | if i was doing it i would just keep some sort of list of those on the other machine- send a wake from it for ea recording | 11:52 |
| mycosys | if the machine is already awake it will have no effect | 11:52 |
| mycosys | would use minimal resources | 11:52 |
| kolo | yes | 11:52 |
| mycosys | seesm simpler | 11:52 |
| mycosys | that is just me tho lol | 11:52 |
| kolo | lol | 11:52 |
| kolo | for anyone that can help please | 11:54 |
| kolo | this is the code in mythwakeup.sh | 11:55 |
| kolo | http://pastebin.com/q8xaBxu9 | 11:55 |
| Zinn | [pastebin.com] #!/bin/bash echo $2 > /home/mythtv/log/wakeup. | 11:55 |
| kolo | ?? | 11:57 |
| mycosys | what is ending up in the log? | 11:58 |
| kolo | nothing | 11:58 |
| kolo | thats my problem | 11:58 |
| kolo | dont think mythwelcome is writing those values | 11:59 |
| mycosys | does the file exist? | 11:59 |
| kolo | no | 11:59 |
| mycosys | try making it - ur using append | 11:59 |
| kolo | good idea | 11:59 |
| mycosys | make sure the permissions are right for it too - the user running mythwelcome shouldnt be mythtv | 12:00 |
| kolo | yea | 12:00 |
| mycosys | the mythtv group will need write perms | 12:00 |
| kolo | i have made it writable by all thouhe | 12:00 |
| kolo | *though | 12:00 |
| mycosys | 770 would have been fine | 12:00 |
| kolo | yea | 12:01 |
| mycosys | how is scp going to log in? | 12:01 |
| kolo | pub key | 12:01 |
| kolo | that works no passowrd required | 12:01 |
| kolo | heres my mythwelcome setting | 12:01 |
| kolo | http://pastebin.com/42U3Bspx | 12:02 |
| Zinn | [pastebin.com] command to set wakeup time /home/mythtv/mythwakeup | 12:02 |
| mycosys | wouldnt it need to be pointed to the key? (not sure) | 12:02 |
| kolo | no | 12:02 |
| kolo | the key is stored in authorized keys | 12:02 |
| mycosys | kk | 12:02 |
| mycosys | would try it with the file existing - if you arent getting a log then it isnt being run | 12:03 |
| kolo | yea trying that now | 12:03 |
| mycosys | could even have it echo to a console you have duplicated via screen to another machine so you can see realtime | 12:04 |
| kolo | the problem is i dont think its my script | 12:04 |
| kolo | when i run it from commandline it works fine | 12:05 |
| mycosys | dont you hate that | 12:06 |
| kolo | lol | 12:07 |
| kolo | yea | 12:07 |
| mycosys | had one recently like that with deluge | 12:08 |
| kolo | would have been easier if there was a log showing me what mythwelcome is actually doing | 12:08 |
| mycosys | worst bit is - i found lated some1 had written a plugin to do what i was doind | 12:08 |
| mycosys | after i fixed it of course | 12:08 |
| kolo | haha | 12:09 |
| kolo | and final heres my mythtv-setup | 12:09 |
| kolo | http://pastebin.com/Cwu1VR32 | 12:09 |
| mycosys | would be very surprised if mythwelcome didnt have a verbose option | 12:09 |
| Zinn | [pastebin.com] wakeup time format : yyyy-MM-dd:hh:mm Command to | 12:09 |
| mycosys | try ---help | 12:09 |
| mycosys | if it does you can >> log & | 12:10 |
| kolo | k | 12:10 |
| kolo | ok got it mycosys | 12:31 |
| kolo | command to set wakeup time in mythtv-setup should be pointing to my script | 12:31 |
| kolo | /home/mythtv/mythwakeup.sh --settime $time | 12:32 |
| kolo | cheers for your help | 12:32 |
| mycosys | sorry i wasnt more | 12:35 |
| kolo | na thats good u gave me ideas | 12:35 |
| kolo | also pre created those files and gave it full write access | 12:35 |
| mycosys | sweet | 12:37 |
| mycosys | sometimes handy jus to hav some1 to bounce stuff off | 12:37 |
| kolo | yea | 12:39 |
| kolo | ok cya | 12:39 |
| tyrion-mx | !help | 13:59 |
| Zinn | !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. | 13:59 |
| tyrion-mx | I can't see the mouse when using mythbackend, is this normal? | 14:03 |
| tyrion-mx | myth frontend* | 14:03 |
| rhpot1991 | tyrion-mx: yes | 14:42 |
| tyrion-mx | it's kinda difficult to select dropdown menus without the mouse ... | 14:43 |
| tyrion-mx | how should I do? | 14:43 |
| tyrion-mx | I installed mythbuntu in virtualbox, but it tells that my capture card is always busy | 15:08 |
| tyrion-mx | main:2284: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 16 Device or resource busy | 15:08 |
| judget | where should my video capture devices be /dev/video*? | 15:12 |
| judget | is bttv built into the mythbuntu kernel ? | 15:24 |
| judget | my kernel is 2.6.35-25-generic | 15:27 |
| rhpot1991 | tyrion-mx: use the keyboard | 17:06 |
| rhpot1991 | there is an option about the mouse somewhere, you'll have to google to figure out where it is I don't recall | 17:06 |
| mycosys | hide mouse vursor? is either in general or appearance iirc | 17:10 |
| mycosys | *cursor | 17:10 |
| rhpot1991 | mycosys: yep thanks | 17:11 |
| rhpot1991 | tyrion-mx: ^ | 17:11 |
| tyrion-mx | rhpot1991, thank you :) | 17:12 |
| mycosys | hmmm - touchscreen would work well with myth | 17:13 |
| mycosys | wonder if there is a way to x forward just the menu painter, not the playback | 17:14 |
| bcgrown | hello | 19:11 |
| bcgrown | does anyone know how to make the rear channels work for an Intel ALC887 sound chipset? | 19:11 |
| bcgrown | (analog, not digital outs) | 19:12 |
| gino | Hi everybody... | 19:24 |
| gino | I am new to all this...anywho...my questions is... | 19:24 |
| gino | if I build a HTPC, and I know it would have a say PVR-150 for the TV in put...but how do I deal with the FIOS box? | 19:25 |
| gino | I mean it has channels that need to be decoded and all | 19:26 |
| gino | any help much appreciated | 19:26 |
| bcgrown | gino: what outputs does the fios box have? | 19:28 |
| gino | let me check..is right in front of me...I am in the plannign stages..trying to decide if I should embark in this project | 19:29 |
| gino | well...currently the output is an HDMI that goes to the flat screen | 19:30 |
| gino | there is also an RF video out | 19:31 |
| bcgrown | there aren't many (any?) hdmi input devices available. you might be able to use an ATSC/QAM tuner if and only if they provide unencrypted channels (unlikely) | 19:31 |
| bcgrown | does it have a firewire output, or component video? | 19:31 |
| gino | let me check...but I would love to have the pay channels (that I pay for) be part of the HTPC capabilities | 19:32 |
| gino | there is a firewire , a USB and a ethernet outputs...at least they seem like outputs | 19:33 |
| bcgrown | you might be able to use the firewire output if they haven't disabled it. i would probably try that first. i doubt the other ones provide video | 19:34 |
| gino | hhmmm... | 19:35 |
| bcgrown | i have an older motorola cable box with all those ports too and the firewire works beautifully | 19:35 |
| bcgrown | however some cable companies disable or cripple them | 19:35 |
| gino | so...could you tell me how this works? the HTPC talks to the FIOS through the firewire....and tells the FIOS box what channels it wants? | 19:35 |
| bcgrown | yep | 19:35 |
| bcgrown | that's how mine works anyway | 19:35 |
| gino | so...how do I make sure before spending 800 bucks....otherwise I may end 800 dollars down and nto able to see my channels | 19:36 |
| bcgrown | you don't have the fios box already? | 19:36 |
| gino | yes..I do | 19:36 |
| gino | is there..what I do nto have is the HTPC...I want to build one..but I want to know it will do what I want | 19:37 |
| bcgrown | ah. well first of all $800 sounds rather high | 19:37 |
| bcgrown | a firewire card for your pc is $40 or so, not that expensive to try it out | 19:37 |
| gino | I went to a website...and the case..motherboard...cpu...hard drives...PVR-150...all in all is like 800 | 19:38 |
| bcgrown | hmm.. mine was more like $400 | 19:38 |
| bcgrown | but it's rather basic | 19:38 |
| gino | http://mymediaexperience.com/guide-to-build-optimal-htpc-in-2010/ | 19:39 |
| Zinn | [mymediaexperience.com] HTPC Building Guide to Build HTPC with Optimal Components in 2010 | 19:39 |
| gino | by the way I really appreciate your help | 19:39 |
| gino | yes...I went there and then added up prices | 19:39 |
| bcgrown | are you in the us? | 19:40 |
| gino | if I can not get my paychannel soccer channels then is not worth the effort | 19:40 |
| gino | yes | 19:40 |
| gino | Maryland | 19:40 |
| bcgrown | newegg.com has the best prices for a lot of things | 19:40 |
| bcgrown | amazon has good deals sometimes, but i dont know much about them since they dont ship to my country | 19:41 |
| gino | ok...I will write that down....so I guess my question would be this....if I buy the components form that web site....will I after some work get to record my pay channels? I have 3 ubuntu machines running...I am a physicists so I can get my hands dirty | 19:41 |
| bcgrown | you'll have to do your own research on that | 19:44 |
| bcgrown | hd recording from cable is kind of hit and miss | 19:44 |
| gino | ok..thank you for your help | 19:44 |
| bcgrown | does the fios box have component video output? | 19:44 |
| gino | let me check | 19:44 |
| bcgrown | cause the hauppauge hd-pvr can most likely record from that | 19:45 |
| bcgrown | p.s. maryland is nice. got to go back there to surf someday | 19:45 |
| gino | the fios box has a HDMI that I curtrently have connected to the flat scree and there is also a video out with two connectors (yellow and green) that are unused | 19:46 |
| gino | I mean...out is not enough..isn't is..there has to be a way for the HTPC to talk to the box | 19:47 |
| gino | yes..Maryland is getting warmer now....it was like 70 yesterday | 19:47 |
| bcgrown | you can use an IR blaster if the fios box has an ir remote | 19:47 |
| gino | yes..the fios has a remote...what is a IR blaster? | 19:48 |
| bcgrown | basically a remote control transmitter | 19:48 |
| bcgrown | that the PC controls | 19:48 |
| gino | ohh.....ok... | 19:48 |
| gino | that would solve the problem then | 19:48 |
| gino | but also means that I can nto watch and record a different channels | 19:49 |
| bcgrown | yep. a lot of pc remote controls come with them | 19:49 |
| bcgrown | also true. you can only record/watch as many channels as you have tuners | 19:49 |
| gino | so...the remote can recive orders from the pc via (IR also I guess) | 19:49 |
| gino | even if I have two tuners if there is only one fios box then only one channel would be accesible at a time | 19:50 |
| bcgrown | if everything goes through the fios box, yes | 19:51 |
| gino | kewl...this has been most illuminating , let me thank you again | 19:52 |
| gino | I will order the components..this will be fun for sure | 19:52 |
| gino | Have a great day | 19:53 |
| bcgrown | enjoy, ciao! | 19:53 |
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