[00:07] anyone in here have hdmi sound working ?? === Azelphur is now known as zz_Azelphur === zz_Azelphur is now known as Azelphur [03:16] can somebody assist me in adding mythbuntu to ubuntu 10.10. I have a Hauppauge_HVR-1600 and a dish network box vip222k [03:18] sudo aptitude install mythbuntu [03:20] okay [03:28] which repository do i need to add because terminals says: Unable to locate package mythbuntu [03:30] sorry - mythbuntu-desktop [03:30] okay [03:32] it says: if you install mythbuntu-desktop, future updates will not include new in the ubuntu desktop system set. Should i proceed? [03:33] mythbuntu-desktop should only be used if you plan on turning the machine into a mythbuntu only machine [03:33] can i install it on my third harddrive and boot from there? [03:34] if it is a mythn machine ur gonna want mythbackend running all the time [03:34] era878, you can install it in ubuntu 10.10 machine just fine [03:34] better off adding what u want to the machine [03:34] can you please explain how to [03:34] mythbuntu-desktop just gives you the xfce desktop and themes and such [03:34] okay [03:35] era878, what you want is this http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [03:35] i see [03:35] sudo aptitude install mythtv [03:35] [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu [03:35] mycosys, no [03:35] ? [03:35] add MCC, then configure it from there [03:35] it installs what packages it needs [03:35] what? [03:35] era878, http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [03:35] [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu [03:35] oh control center? [03:36] yea [03:36] okay [03:36] tricky [03:36] then install the roles you want from there (frontend, backend, etc) [03:36] i just got the control center [03:37] what do i want primary backend, secondary backend, no front end, desktop frontend? [03:37] era878, http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/mythbuntu-control-centre-mcc [03:37] look at the roles section [03:37] [mythbuntu.org] Mythbuntu Control Centre (MCC) | Mythbuntu [03:37] okay [03:39] can i have a front end and a desktop role? [03:41] yea [03:42] okay im installing now [03:42] what should i configure next [03:44] once you have the backend installed, you need to go though mythtv setup [03:44] look for the install guide on the wiki [03:45] okay === jakent_ is now known as jakent [04:10] im setting up the backend now and im confused by this whole database thing [04:21] after selecting the language english in the backend setup a box pops up saying "no upnp" [04:21] what do i do? [04:53] how do i configure mythtv for dish network [04:54] would suggest searching the wiki on mythtv.org [04:57] sure [06:48] I have mythexport installed now which allows me to stream recorded shows via myweb...What about live tv what is the go there? [06:56] anyone [06:57] need a client that speaks myth protocol for that [06:57] afaik that is only mythfrontend atm [07:00] mycosys so u can only stream pre-recorded stuff via mythweb then [07:01] yup [07:01] if it is to windows, mythfrontend can be run on windows [07:04] another thing - what about ps3 as frontend? [07:05] just use dlna [07:05] aka upnp [07:07] mycosys so so how how do enable that? becuse i tried going to tv on my ps3 but the myth frontend didn't appear...what am I missing? [07:08] should be there :S [07:08] does ps3 use dlna? [07:09] i belive so yeah [07:09] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UPnP [07:09] [www.mythtv.org] UPnP - MythTV [07:11] apparently the ps3 just takes an age to find it hot_wheelz [07:13] mycosys should be looking for a media server right? [07:13] it just said none found :-( [07:14] give it time - read that link [07:14] the ps3 doesnt search properly [07:16] what do u suggest i can't just give it an ip :-( [07:16] ? [07:16] wait [07:16] mycosys ok :-) [07:17] if sony hadnt taken ur right to install linux on it you could have had mythfrontend on there [07:17] sony suck [07:20] mycosys but is it still doable dispite this fact via upnp or not...should be right? === croppa is now known as croppa_ [07:34] mycosys followed http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=430 still no joy :-( [07:52] did you do the wait bit after you did, keep using search on it in the hope it actually will [07:59] yes i did [07:59] is it still on? [07:59] try now [08:09] any sign of it yet? [08:16] no [08:28] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Sony_PlayStation_3 [08:28] [www.mythtv.org] Sony PlayStation 3 - MythTV [08:28] have you checked that your router is allowing data to go between the ps3 and the mythbox? [08:29] they're conneted to the same router so should be fine right? [08:29] not necessarily [08:30] many routers dont allow the ports on them to communicate by default [08:30] most even [08:30] will be a setiing on their web interface to allow it [08:30] virtual lan, port communication, they call it a bunch of things [08:31] what should i look for then [08:31] ur router manual would be my bet [08:32] look for upnp right? [08:32] no [08:32] tho that would be a good thing to enable too [08:33] on a d-link it will be virtual lan [08:33] what router do you have' [08:33] ? [08:33] http://www.billion.com/product/adsl/bipac7402r2-firewall-adsl2-vpn-router.html [08:33] [www.billion.com] Billion Products for SSL VPN, ADSL Modem/Router, Wireless ADSL Router, Powerline ADSL Router and Adapter, VoIP ADSL Modem/Router, Security Router, Broadband Router, SHDSL Bridge/Router, iBusiness Security, ISDN Product [08:33] nice [08:34] do i need to port forward? [08:35] nah [08:35] asking some1 i know who has one o those [08:35] can join us on efnet #desktops if u like [08:36] just dont expect it to be as ....... clean as here [08:36] apreciate it - i'll wait for u come back to me :-) [08:36] is a support channel - but we gave up on those sort o rules lol [08:37] just too damn hard to enforce [08:37] mycosys: Please watch your language. [08:37] see what i mean by clean?????? [08:37] yep [08:37] i wonder if i can mention the franklin dam? [08:39] mycosys brb [08:39] np [08:40] i am sure of one thing though [08:41] it'll be somthing simple i'm missing :-) [08:58] apart from saying buy a tplink - he said the billion should be fine out of the box, but use latest firmware [08:58] dinnertime [08:58] suggest #mythtv [09:45] mycosys [10:00] yars? [10:00] hot_wheelz [10:14] i am alraedy running the latest f\w on my router [10:17] gtg check back in tomorrow :-) [11:39] hi all [11:39] yo [11:39] i am running mythbuntu 10.10 [11:40] just trying to get wol working [11:40] !ask [11:40] Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. [11:40] oh - fun [11:40] yes lol [11:40] i have both backend and frontend on same box [11:40] would say try #ubuntu myself [11:40] why wol then? [11:41] shcedule recording [11:41] using mythwelcome to shutdown [11:41] you dont want wol [11:41] you want rtc wake [11:41] no [11:41] i have anothe pc on network [11:41] so using a script to copy time of next schedule to that pc [11:42] there are howtos for rtc - likely simpler [11:42] unless ur bios doesnt support it [11:42] yea but cant get that to work ..rtc [11:42] i can wake the pc ok from the other pc using wakeonlan [11:43] i just need mythwelcome to copy the time to the remote pc using scp [11:43] no my problem [11:43] *now [11:43] would prolly need mythbackend to do that [11:43] mythwelcome? [11:43] could also just have the remote pc get it off mythweb [11:44] hmm how will i do that [11:44] look in the code for the upcoming recordings page, or the server status page - there is code on both that displays the time of the next scheduled recording [11:45] would save re-inventing the wheel [11:45] yea but i want that done by a script [11:45] i have a cron on the other pv [11:45] wget for instance? [11:45] *pc [11:46] rib some code out of mythweb - use wget to get the page, use readline to get the time [11:46] *rip [11:46] million other ways you could do it with the existing interfaces [11:46] yea but i want the time written when pc is shutting down [11:47] using mythwelcome to shutdown when idle [11:47] actually - would be simpler to get it straight from the database - wake at the time for every recording - it will only wake it if it is sleeping [11:48] hmm [11:48] how will it get the time when the pc is off [11:48] i shutdown the pc [11:48] my problem is command to set wakeuptime in mythwelcome [11:49] it doesnt appear to be running my script [11:49] how do i troubleshoot mythwelcome [11:50] /home/mythtv/mythwakeup.sh --settime $time [11:50] never used mythwelcome mate [11:50] my machine is a server - up 24-7 to record and dl [11:51] ahh [11:51] just told you 2 parts of myth tho that are designed to provide the info you want to remote machines [11:51] yea [11:51] its will work if machine is on all the time [11:52] mine will shutdown if it has nothing to do [11:52] if i was doing it i would just keep some sort of list of those on the other machine- send a wake from it for ea recording [11:52] if the machine is already awake it will have no effect [11:52] would use minimal resources [11:52] yes [11:52] seesm simpler [11:52] that is just me tho lol [11:52] lol [11:54] for anyone that can help please [11:55] this is the code in mythwakeup.sh [11:55] http://pastebin.com/q8xaBxu9 [11:55] [pastebin.com] #!/bin/bash echo $2 > /home/mythtv/log/wakeup. [11:57] ?? [11:58] what is ending up in the log? [11:58] nothing [11:58] thats my problem [11:59] dont think mythwelcome is writing those values [11:59] does the file exist? [11:59] no [11:59] try making it - ur using append [11:59] good idea [12:00] make sure the permissions are right for it too - the user running mythwelcome shouldnt be mythtv [12:00] yea [12:00] the mythtv group will need write perms [12:00] i have made it writable by all thouhe [12:00] *though [12:00] 770 would have been fine [12:01] yea [12:01] how is scp going to log in? [12:01] pub key [12:01] that works no passowrd required [12:01] heres my mythwelcome setting [12:02] http://pastebin.com/42U3Bspx [12:02] [pastebin.com] command to set wakeup time /home/mythtv/mythwakeup [12:02] wouldnt it need to be pointed to the key? (not sure) [12:02] no [12:02] the key is stored in authorized keys [12:02] kk [12:03] would try it with the file existing - if you arent getting a log then it isnt being run [12:03] yea trying that now [12:04] could even have it echo to a console you have duplicated via screen to another machine so you can see realtime [12:04] the problem is i dont think its my script [12:05] when i run it from commandline it works fine [12:06] dont you hate that [12:07] lol [12:07] yea [12:08] had one recently like that with deluge [12:08] would have been easier if there was a log showing me what mythwelcome is actually doing [12:08] worst bit is - i found lated some1 had written a plugin to do what i was doind [12:08] after i fixed it of course [12:09] haha [12:09] and final heres my mythtv-setup [12:09] http://pastebin.com/Cwu1VR32 [12:09] would be very surprised if mythwelcome didnt have a verbose option [12:09] [pastebin.com] wakeup time format : yyyy-MM-dd:hh:mm Command to [12:09] try ---help [12:10] if it does you can >> log & [12:10] k [12:31] ok got it mycosys [12:31] command to set wakeup time in mythtv-setup should be pointing to my script [12:32] /home/mythtv/mythwakeup.sh --settime $time [12:32] cheers for your help [12:35] sorry i wasnt more [12:35] na thats good u gave me ideas [12:35] also pre created those files and gave it full write access [12:37] sweet [12:37] sometimes handy jus to hav some1 to bounce stuff off [12:39] yea [12:39] ok cya [13:59] !help [13:59] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [14:03] I can't see the mouse when using mythbackend, is this normal? [14:03] myth frontend* [14:42] tyrion-mx: yes [14:43] it's kinda difficult to select dropdown menus without the mouse ... [14:43] how should I do? [15:08] I installed mythbuntu in virtualbox, but it tells that my capture card is always busy [15:08] main:2284: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 16 Device or resource busy [15:12] where should my video capture devices be /dev/video*? [15:24] is bttv built into the mythbuntu kernel ? [15:27] my kernel is 2.6.35-25-generic [17:06] tyrion-mx: use the keyboard [17:06] there is an option about the mouse somewhere, you'll have to google to figure out where it is I don't recall [17:10] hide mouse vursor? is either in general or appearance iirc [17:10] *cursor [17:11] mycosys: yep thanks [17:11] tyrion-mx: ^ [17:12] rhpot1991, thank you :) [17:13] hmmm - touchscreen would work well with myth [17:14] wonder if there is a way to x forward just the menu painter, not the playback [19:11] hello [19:11] does anyone know how to make the rear channels work for an Intel ALC887 sound chipset? [19:12] (analog, not digital outs) [19:24] Hi everybody... [19:24] I am new to all this...anywho...my questions is... [19:25] if I build a HTPC, and I know it would have a say PVR-150 for the TV in put...but how do I deal with the FIOS box? [19:26] I mean it has channels that need to be decoded and all [19:26] any help much appreciated [19:28] gino: what outputs does the fios box have? [19:29] let me check..is right in front of me...I am in the plannign stages..trying to decide if I should embark in this project [19:30] well...currently the output is an HDMI that goes to the flat screen [19:31] there is also an RF video out [19:31] there aren't many (any?) hdmi input devices available. you might be able to use an ATSC/QAM tuner if and only if they provide unencrypted channels (unlikely) [19:31] does it have a firewire output, or component video? [19:32] let me check...but I would love to have the pay channels (that I pay for) be part of the HTPC capabilities [19:33] there is a firewire , a USB and a ethernet outputs...at least they seem like outputs [19:34] you might be able to use the firewire output if they haven't disabled it. i would probably try that first. i doubt the other ones provide video [19:35] hhmmm... [19:35] i have an older motorola cable box with all those ports too and the firewire works beautifully [19:35] however some cable companies disable or cripple them [19:35] so...could you tell me how this works? the HTPC talks to the FIOS through the firewire....and tells the FIOS box what channels it wants? [19:35] yep [19:35] that's how mine works anyway [19:36] so...how do I make sure before spending 800 bucks....otherwise I may end 800 dollars down and nto able to see my channels [19:36] you don't have the fios box already? [19:36] yes..I do [19:37] is there..what I do nto have is the HTPC...I want to build one..but I want to know it will do what I want [19:37] ah. well first of all $800 sounds rather high [19:37] a firewire card for your pc is $40 or so, not that expensive to try it out [19:38] I went to a website...and the case..motherboard...cpu...hard drives...PVR-150...all in all is like 800 [19:38] hmm.. mine was more like $400 [19:38] but it's rather basic [19:39] http://mymediaexperience.com/guide-to-build-optimal-htpc-in-2010/ [19:39] [mymediaexperience.com] HTPC Building Guide to Build HTPC with Optimal Components in 2010 [19:39] by the way I really appreciate your help [19:39] yes...I went there and then added up prices [19:40] are you in the us? [19:40] if I can not get my paychannel soccer channels then is not worth the effort [19:40] yes [19:40] Maryland [19:40] newegg.com has the best prices for a lot of things [19:41] amazon has good deals sometimes, but i dont know much about them since they dont ship to my country [19:41] ok...I will write that down....so I guess my question would be this....if I buy the components form that web site....will I after some work get to record my pay channels? I have 3 ubuntu machines running...I am a physicists so I can get my hands dirty [19:44] you'll have to do your own research on that [19:44] hd recording from cable is kind of hit and miss [19:44] ok..thank you for your help [19:44] does the fios box have component video output? [19:44] let me check [19:45] cause the hauppauge hd-pvr can most likely record from that [19:45] p.s. maryland is nice. got to go back there to surf someday [19:46] the fios box has a HDMI that I curtrently have connected to the flat scree and there is also a video out with two connectors (yellow and green) that are unused [19:47] I mean...out is not enough..isn't is..there has to be a way for the HTPC to talk to the box [19:47] yes..Maryland is getting warmer now....it was like 70 yesterday [19:47] you can use an IR blaster if the fios box has an ir remote [19:48] yes..the fios has a remote...what is a IR blaster? [19:48] basically a remote control transmitter [19:48] that the PC controls [19:48] ohh.....ok... [19:48] that would solve the problem then [19:49] but also means that I can nto watch and record a different channels [19:49] yep. a lot of pc remote controls come with them [19:49] also true. you can only record/watch as many channels as you have tuners [19:49] so...the remote can recive orders from the pc via (IR also I guess) [19:50] even if I have two tuners if there is only one fios box then only one channel would be accesible at a time [19:51] if everything goes through the fios box, yes [19:52] kewl...this has been most illuminating , let me thank you again [19:52] I will order the components..this will be fun for sure [19:53] Have a great day [19:53] enjoy, ciao!