[00:07] <adub_> anyone in here have hdmi sound working ??
[03:16] <era878> can somebody assist me in adding mythbuntu to ubuntu 10.10. I have a Hauppauge_HVR-1600 and a dish network box vip222k
[03:18] <mycosys> sudo aptitude install mythbuntu
[03:20] <era878> okay
[03:28] <era878> which repository do i need to add because terminals says: Unable to locate package mythbuntu
[03:30] <mycosys> sorry - mythbuntu-desktop
[03:30] <era878> okay
[03:32] <era878> it says: if you install mythbuntu-desktop, future updates will not include new in the ubuntu desktop system set. Should i proceed?
[03:33] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-desktop should only be used if you plan on turning the machine into a mythbuntu only machine
[03:33] <era878> can i install it on my third harddrive and boot from there?
[03:34] <mycosys> if it is a mythn machine ur gonna want mythbackend running all the time
[03:34] <tgm4883> era878, you can install it in ubuntu 10.10 machine just fine
[03:34] <mycosys> better off adding what u want to the machine
[03:34] <era878> can you please explain how to
[03:34] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-desktop just gives you the xfce desktop and themes and such
[03:34] <era878> okay
[03:35] <tgm4883> era878, what you want is this  http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[03:35] <era878> i see
[03:35] <mycosys> sudo aptitude install mythtv
[03:35] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu
[03:35] <tgm4883> mycosys, no
[03:35] <mycosys> ?
[03:35] <tgm4883> add MCC, then configure it from there
[03:35] <tgm4883> it installs what packages it needs
[03:35] <era878> what?
[03:35] <tgm4883> era878,  http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[03:35] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] Add to Ubuntu | Mythbuntu
[03:35] <era878> oh control center?
[03:36] <tgm4883> yea
[03:36] <era878> okay
[03:36] <mycosys> tricky
[03:36] <tgm4883> then install the roles you want from there (frontend, backend, etc)
[03:36] <era878> i just got the control center
[03:37] <era878> what do i want primary backend, secondary backend, no front end, desktop frontend?
[03:37] <tgm4883> era878, http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/mythbuntu-control-centre-mcc
[03:37] <tgm4883> look at the roles section
[03:37] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] Mythbuntu Control Centre (MCC) | Mythbuntu
[03:37] <era878> okay
[03:39] <era878> can i have a front end and a desktop role?
[03:41] <tgm4883> yea
[03:42] <era878> okay im installing now
[03:42] <era878> what should i configure next
[03:44] <tgm4883> once you have the backend installed, you need to go though mythtv setup
[03:44] <tgm4883> look for the install guide on the wiki
[03:45] <era878> okay
[04:10] <era878> im setting up the backend now and im confused by this whole database thing
[04:21] <era878> after selecting the language english in the backend setup a box pops up saying "no upnp"
[04:21] <era878> what do i do?
[04:53] <era878> how do i configure mythtv for dish network
[04:54] <mycosys> would suggest searching the wiki on mythtv.org
[04:57] <era878> sure
[06:48] <hot_wheelz> I have mythexport installed now which allows me to stream recorded shows via myweb...What about live tv what is the go there?
[06:56] <hot_wheelz> anyone
[06:57] <mycosys> need a client that speaks myth protocol for that
[06:57] <mycosys> afaik that is only mythfrontend atm
[07:00] <hot_wheelz> mycosys so u can only stream pre-recorded stuff via mythweb then
[07:01] <mycosys> yup
[07:01] <mycosys> if it is to windows, mythfrontend can be run on windows
[07:04] <hot_wheelz> another thing - what about ps3 as frontend?
[07:05] <mycosys> just use dlna
[07:05] <mycosys> aka upnp
[07:07] <hot_wheelz> mycosys so so how how do enable that? becuse i tried going to tv on my ps3 but the myth frontend didn't appear...what am I missing?
[07:08] <mycosys> should be there :S
[07:08] <mycosys> does ps3 use dlna?
[07:09] <hot_wheelz> i belive so yeah
[07:09] <mycosys> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UPnP
[07:09] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] UPnP - MythTV
[07:11] <mycosys> apparently the ps3 just takes an age to find it hot_wheelz
[07:13] <hot_wheelz> mycosys should be looking for a media server right?
[07:13] <hot_wheelz> it just said none found :-(
[07:14] <mycosys> give it time - read that link
[07:14] <mycosys> the ps3 doesnt search properly
[07:16] <hot_wheelz> what do u suggest i can't just give it an ip :-(
[07:16] <mycosys> ?
[07:16] <mycosys> wait
[07:16] <hot_wheelz> mycosys ok :-)
[07:17] <mycosys> if sony hadnt taken ur right to install linux on it you could have had mythfrontend on there
[07:17] <mycosys> sony suck
[07:20] <hot_wheelz> mycosys but is it still doable dispite this fact via upnp or not...should be right?
[07:34] <hot_wheelz> mycosys followed http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=430 still no joy :-(
[07:52] <mycosys> did you do the wait bit after you did, keep using search on it in the hope it actually will
[07:59] <hot_wheelz> yes i did
[07:59] <mycosys> is it still on?
[07:59] <mycosys> try now
[08:09] <mycosys> any sign of it yet?
[08:16] <hot_wheelz> no
[08:28] <mycosys> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Sony_PlayStation_3
[08:28] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Sony PlayStation 3 - MythTV
[08:28] <mycosys> have you checked that your router is allowing data to go between the ps3 and the mythbox?
[08:29] <hot_wheelz> they're conneted to the same router so should be fine right?
[08:29] <mycosys> not necessarily
[08:30] <mycosys> many routers dont allow the ports on them to communicate by default
[08:30] <mycosys> most even
[08:30] <mycosys> will be a setiing on their web interface to allow it
[08:30] <mycosys> virtual lan, port communication, they call it a bunch of things
[08:31] <hot_wheelz> what should i look for then
[08:31] <mycosys> ur router manual would be my bet
[08:32] <hot_wheelz> look for upnp right?
[08:32] <mycosys> no
[08:32] <mycosys> tho that would be a good thing to enable too
[08:33] <mycosys> on a d-link it will be virtual lan
[08:33] <mycosys> what router do you have'
[08:33] <mycosys> ?
[08:33] <hot_wheelz> http://www.billion.com/product/adsl/bipac7402r2-firewall-adsl2-vpn-router.html
[08:33] <Zinn> [www.billion.com] Billion Products for SSL VPN, ADSL Modem/Router, Wireless ADSL Router, Powerline ADSL Router and Adapter, VoIP ADSL Modem/Router, Security Router, Broadband Router, SHDSL Bridge/Router, iBusiness Security, ISDN Product
[08:33] <mycosys> nice
[08:34] <hot_wheelz> do i need to port forward?
[08:35] <mycosys> nah
[08:35] <mycosys> asking some1 i know who has one o those
[08:35] <mycosys> can join us on efnet #desktops if u like
[08:36] <mycosys> just dont expect it to be as ....... clean as here
[08:36] <hot_wheelz> apreciate it - i'll wait for u come back to me :-)
[08:36] <mycosys> is a support channel - but we gave up on those sort o rules lol
[08:37] <mycosys> just too damn hard to enforce
[08:37] <Zinn> mycosys: Please watch your language.
[08:37] <mycosys> see what i mean by clean??????
[08:37] <hot_wheelz> yep
[08:37] <mycosys> i wonder if i can mention the franklin dam?
[08:39] <hot_wheelz> mycosys brb
[08:39] <mycosys> np
[08:40] <hot_wheelz> i am sure of one thing though
[08:41] <hot_wheelz> it'll be somthing simple i'm missing :-)
[08:58] <mycosys> apart from saying buy a tplink - he said the billion should be fine out of the box, but use latest firmware
[08:58] <mycosys> dinnertime
[08:58] <mycosys> suggest #mythtv
[09:45] <hot_wheelz> mycosys
[10:00] <mycosys> yars?
[10:00] <mycosys> hot_wheelz
[10:14] <hot_wheelz> i am alraedy running the latest f\w on my router
[10:17] <hot_wheelz> gtg check back in tomorrow :-)
[11:39] <kolo> hi all
[11:39] <mycosys> yo
[11:39] <kolo> i am running mythbuntu 10.10
[11:40] <kolo> just trying to get wol working
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[11:40] <mycosys> oh - fun
[11:40] <kolo> yes lol
[11:40] <kolo> i have both backend and frontend on same box
[11:40] <mycosys> would say try #ubuntu myself
[11:40] <mycosys> why wol then?
[11:41] <kolo> shcedule recording
[11:41] <kolo> using mythwelcome to shutdown
[11:41] <mycosys> you dont want wol
[11:41] <mycosys> you want rtc wake
[11:41] <kolo> no
[11:41] <kolo> i have anothe pc on network
[11:41] <kolo> so using a script to copy time of next schedule to that pc
[11:42] <mycosys> there are howtos for rtc - likely simpler
[11:42] <mycosys> unless ur bios doesnt support it
[11:42] <kolo> yea but cant get that to work ..rtc
[11:42] <kolo> i can wake the pc ok from the other pc using wakeonlan
[11:43] <kolo> i  just need mythwelcome to copy the time to the remote pc using scp
[11:43] <kolo> no my problem
[11:43] <kolo> *now
[11:43] <mycosys> would prolly need mythbackend to do that
[11:43] <kolo> mythwelcome?
[11:43] <mycosys> could also just have the remote pc get it off mythweb
[11:44] <kolo> hmm how will i do that
[11:44] <mycosys> look in the code for the upcoming recordings page, or the server status page - there is code on both that displays the time of the next scheduled recording
[11:45] <mycosys> would save re-inventing the wheel
[11:45] <kolo> yea but i want that done by a script
[11:45] <kolo> i have a cron on the other pv
[11:45] <mycosys> wget for instance?
[11:45] <kolo> *pc
[11:46] <mycosys> rib some code out of mythweb - use wget to get the page, use readline to get the time
[11:46] <mycosys> *rip
[11:46] <mycosys> million other ways you could do it with the existing interfaces
[11:46] <kolo> yea but i want the time written when pc is shutting down
[11:47] <kolo> using mythwelcome to shutdown when idle
[11:47] <mycosys> actually - would be simpler to get it straight from the database - wake at the time for every recording - it will only wake it if it is sleeping
[11:48] <kolo> hmm
[11:48] <kolo> how will it get the time when the pc is off
[11:48] <kolo> i shutdown the pc
[11:48] <kolo> my problem is command to set wakeuptime in mythwelcome
[11:49] <kolo> it doesnt appear to be running my script
[11:49] <kolo> how do i troubleshoot mythwelcome
[11:50] <kolo> /home/mythtv/mythwakeup.sh --settime $time
[11:50] <mycosys> never used mythwelcome mate
[11:50] <mycosys> my machine is a server - up 24-7 to record and dl
[11:51] <kolo> ahh
[11:51] <mycosys> just told you 2 parts of myth tho that are designed to provide the info you want to remote machines
[11:51] <kolo> yea
[11:51] <kolo> its will work if machine is on all the time
[11:52] <kolo> mine will shutdown if it has nothing to do
[11:52] <mycosys> if i was doing it i would just keep some sort of list of those on the other machine- send a wake from it for ea recording
[11:52] <mycosys> if the machine is already awake it will have no effect
[11:52] <mycosys> would use minimal resources
[11:52] <kolo> yes
[11:52] <mycosys> seesm simpler
[11:52] <mycosys> that is just me tho lol
[11:52] <kolo> lol
[11:54] <kolo> for anyone that can help please
[11:55] <kolo> this is the code in mythwakeup.sh
[11:55] <kolo> http://pastebin.com/q8xaBxu9
[11:55] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] #!/bin/bash echo $2 > /home/mythtv/log/wakeup.
[11:57] <kolo> ??
[11:58] <mycosys> what is ending up in the log?
[11:58] <kolo> nothing
[11:58] <kolo> thats my problem
[11:59] <kolo> dont think mythwelcome is writing those values
[11:59] <mycosys> does the file exist?
[11:59] <kolo> no
[11:59] <mycosys> try making it - ur using append
[11:59] <kolo> good idea
[12:00] <mycosys> make sure the permissions are right for it too - the user running mythwelcome shouldnt be mythtv
[12:00] <kolo> yea
[12:00] <mycosys> the mythtv group will need write perms
[12:00] <kolo> i have made it writable by all thouhe
[12:00] <kolo> *though
[12:00] <mycosys> 770 would have been fine
[12:01] <kolo> yea
[12:01] <mycosys> how is scp going to log in?
[12:01] <kolo> pub key
[12:01] <kolo> that works no passowrd required
[12:01] <kolo> heres my mythwelcome setting
[12:02] <kolo> http://pastebin.com/42U3Bspx
[12:02] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] command to set wakeup time /home/mythtv/mythwakeup
[12:02] <mycosys> wouldnt it need to be pointed to the key? (not sure)
[12:02] <kolo> no
[12:02] <kolo> the key is stored in authorized keys
[12:02] <mycosys> kk
[12:03] <mycosys> would try it with the file existing - if you arent getting a log then it isnt being run
[12:03] <kolo> yea trying that now
[12:04] <mycosys> could even have it echo to a console you have duplicated via screen to another machine so you can see realtime
[12:04] <kolo> the problem is i dont think its my script
[12:05] <kolo> when i run it from commandline it works fine
[12:06] <mycosys> dont you hate that
[12:07] <kolo> lol
[12:07] <kolo> yea
[12:08] <mycosys> had one recently like that with deluge
[12:08] <kolo> would have been easier if there was a log showing me what mythwelcome is actually doing
[12:08] <mycosys> worst bit is - i found lated some1 had written a plugin to do what i was doind
[12:08] <mycosys> after i fixed it of course
[12:09] <kolo> haha
[12:09] <kolo> and final heres my mythtv-setup
[12:09] <kolo> http://pastebin.com/Cwu1VR32
[12:09] <mycosys> would be very surprised if mythwelcome didnt have a verbose option
[12:09] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] wakeup time format : yyyy-MM-dd:hh:mm Command to
[12:09] <mycosys> try ---help
[12:10] <mycosys> if it does you can >> log &
[12:10] <kolo> k
[12:31] <kolo> ok got it mycosys
[12:31] <kolo> command to set wakeup time in mythtv-setup should be pointing to my script
[12:32] <kolo> /home/mythtv/mythwakeup.sh --settime $time
[12:32] <kolo> cheers for your help
[12:35] <mycosys> sorry i wasnt more
[12:35] <kolo> na thats good u gave me ideas
[12:35] <kolo> also pre created those files and gave it full write access
[12:37] <mycosys> sweet
[12:37] <mycosys> sometimes handy jus to hav some1 to bounce stuff off
[12:39] <kolo> yea
[12:39] <kolo> ok cya
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[14:03] <tyrion-mx> I can't see the mouse when using mythbackend, is this normal?
[14:03] <tyrion-mx> myth frontend*
[14:42] <rhpot1991> tyrion-mx: yes
[14:43] <tyrion-mx> it's kinda difficult to select dropdown menus without the mouse ...
[14:43] <tyrion-mx> how should I do?
[15:08] <tyrion-mx> I installed mythbuntu in virtualbox, but it tells that my capture card is always busy
[15:08] <tyrion-mx> main:2284: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 16 Device or resource busy
[15:12] <judget> where should my video capture devices be /dev/video*?
[15:24] <judget> is bttv built into the mythbuntu kernel ?
[15:27] <judget> my kernel is 2.6.35-25-generic
[17:06] <rhpot1991> tyrion-mx: use the keyboard
[17:06] <rhpot1991> there is an option about the mouse somewhere, you'll have to google to figure out where it is I don't recall
[17:10] <mycosys> hide mouse vursor? is either in general or appearance iirc
[17:10] <mycosys> *cursor
[17:11] <rhpot1991> mycosys: yep thanks
[17:11] <rhpot1991> tyrion-mx: ^
[17:12] <tyrion-mx> rhpot1991, thank you :)
[17:13] <mycosys> hmmm - touchscreen would work well with myth
[17:14] <mycosys> wonder if there is a way to x forward just the menu painter, not the playback
[19:11] <bcgrown> hello
[19:11] <bcgrown> does anyone know how to make the rear channels work for an Intel ALC887 sound chipset?
[19:12] <bcgrown> (analog, not digital outs)
[19:24] <gino> Hi everybody...
[19:24] <gino> I am new to all this...anywho...my questions is...
[19:25] <gino> if I build a HTPC, and I know it would have a say PVR-150 for the TV in put...but how do I deal with the FIOS box?
[19:26] <gino> I mean it has channels that need to be decoded and all
[19:26] <gino> any help much appreciated
[19:28] <bcgrown> gino: what outputs does the fios box have?
[19:29] <gino> let me check..is right in front of me...I am in the plannign stages..trying to decide if I should embark in this project
[19:30] <gino> well...currently the output is an HDMI that goes to the flat screen
[19:31] <gino> there is also an RF video out
[19:31] <bcgrown> there aren't many (any?) hdmi input devices available.  you might be able to use an ATSC/QAM tuner if and only if they provide unencrypted channels (unlikely)
[19:31] <bcgrown> does it have a firewire output, or component video?
[19:32] <gino> let me check...but I would love to have the pay channels (that I pay for) be part of the HTPC capabilities
[19:33] <gino> there is a firewire , a USB and a ethernet outputs...at least they seem like outputs
[19:34] <bcgrown> you might be able to use the firewire output if they haven't disabled it.  i would probably try that first.  i doubt the other ones provide video
[19:35] <gino> hhmmm...
[19:35] <bcgrown> i have an older motorola cable box with all those ports too and the firewire works beautifully
[19:35] <bcgrown> however some cable companies disable or cripple them
[19:35] <gino> so...could you tell me how this works?  the HTPC talks to the FIOS through the firewire....and tells the FIOS box what channels it wants?
[19:35] <bcgrown> yep
[19:35] <bcgrown> that's how mine works anyway
[19:36] <gino> so...how do I make sure before spending 800 bucks....otherwise I may end 800 dollars down and nto able to see my channels
[19:36] <bcgrown> you don't have the fios box already?
[19:36] <gino> yes..I do
[19:37] <gino> is there..what I do nto have is the HTPC...I want to build one..but I want to know it will do what I want
[19:37] <bcgrown> ah.  well first of all $800 sounds rather high
[19:37] <bcgrown> a firewire card for your pc is $40 or so,  not that expensive to try it out
[19:38] <gino> I went to a website...and the case..motherboard...cpu...hard drives...PVR-150...all in all is like 800
[19:38] <bcgrown> hmm..  mine was more like $400
[19:38] <bcgrown> but it's rather basic
[19:39] <gino> http://mymediaexperience.com/guide-to-build-optimal-htpc-in-2010/
[19:39] <Zinn> [mymediaexperience.com] HTPC Building Guide to Build HTPC with Optimal Components in 2010
[19:39] <gino> by the way I really appreciate your help
[19:39] <gino> yes...I went there and then added up prices
[19:40] <bcgrown> are you in the us?
[19:40] <gino> if I can not get my paychannel soccer channels then is not worth the effort
[19:40] <gino> yes
[19:40] <gino> Maryland
[19:40] <bcgrown> newegg.com has the best prices for a lot of things
[19:41] <bcgrown> amazon has good deals sometimes, but i dont know much about them since they dont ship to my country
[19:41] <gino> ok...I will write that down....so I guess my question would be this....if I buy the components form that web site....will I after some work get to record my pay channels?  I have 3 ubuntu machines running...I am a physicists so I can get my hands dirty
[19:44] <bcgrown> you'll have to do your own research on that
[19:44] <bcgrown> hd recording from cable is kind of hit and miss
[19:44] <gino> ok..thank you for your help
[19:44] <bcgrown> does the fios box have component video output?
[19:44] <gino> let me check
[19:45] <bcgrown> cause the hauppauge hd-pvr can most likely record from that
[19:45] <bcgrown> p.s. maryland is nice.  got to go back there to surf someday
[19:46] <gino> the fios box has a HDMI that I curtrently have connected to the flat scree and there is also a video out with two connectors (yellow and green) that are unused
[19:47] <gino> I mean...out is not enough..isn't is..there has to be a way for the HTPC to talk to the box
[19:47] <gino> yes..Maryland is getting warmer now....it was like 70 yesterday
[19:47] <bcgrown> you can use an IR blaster if the fios box has an ir remote
[19:48] <gino> yes..the fios has a remote...what is a IR blaster?
[19:48] <bcgrown> basically a remote control transmitter
[19:48] <bcgrown> that the PC controls
[19:48] <gino> ohh.....ok...
[19:48] <gino> that would solve the problem then
[19:49] <gino> but also means that I can nto watch and record a different channels
[19:49] <bcgrown> yep.  a lot of pc remote controls come with them
[19:49] <bcgrown> also true. you can only record/watch as many channels as you have tuners
[19:49] <gino> so...the remote can recive orders from the pc via (IR also I guess)
[19:50] <gino> even if I have two tuners if there is only one fios box then only one channel would be accesible at a time
[19:51] <bcgrown> if everything goes through the fios box, yes
[19:52] <gino> kewl...this has been most illuminating , let me thank you again
[19:52] <gino> I will order the components..this will be fun for sure
[19:53] <gino> Have a great day
[19:53] <bcgrown> enjoy,  ciao!