[00:00] <bazhang> carlos82, then it will show once you update
[00:00] <Mike__> hi. I have a problem with my vncserver. i found a config what i have copyed to /etc/init.d/vncserver. Then i typed update-rc.d vncserver defaults. When i run from terminal /etc/init.d/vncserver start, than everything works fine. I can connect to server, i can start programs, etc... But when i reboot, and the server starts automatically, then when i connect to the server i can't start programs or anyting. So what can be the problem ?
[00:00] <ohsix> jsw_: that tells the fs driver it can discard/trim; the formatting apps work with raw storage and wont
[00:00] <carlos82> bazhang: how can i do that?
[00:00] <JeffCBR> How do I force changes to inetd.conf to take effect without rebooting?
[00:00] <jsw_> ohsix: Do you mind to explain why?  My understanding was the SSD controller won't know that blocks have been free'd unless the OS advises it of that
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: i guess
[00:00] <erUSUL> JeffCBR: restart the inetd daemon
[00:00] <carlos82> bazhang: can you show me the your sources.list file?
[00:01] <jsw_> so you're saying that discard is helpful with the running filesystem, but when I do mkfs (again) I won't have to do anything special to make sure it frees the currently allocated blocks?
[00:01] <ohsix> jsw_: because you don't gain mych from it; especially when you're just going to immediately overwrite a lot of it
[00:01] <bazhang> carlos82, they are all set to maverick currently. no need to manually configure them
[00:02] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, is that gerlitzen video is edited on kdenlive?/
[00:02] <Andrada> http://bux4ad.com/_2ba3a196.htm
[00:02] <carlos82> bazhang: but the update-manager dont show me anything about upgrade !!!
[00:03] <brontosaurusrex> induz_, :) nope, i think the friend shoot that with some phone and trimmed with adobe
[00:03] <JeffCBR> erUSUL: Is it called something other than inetd?
[00:03] <bazhang> carlos82, close synaptic
[00:04] <AegisX> Does anyone use GnomeDo?
[00:04] <bazhang> carlos82, then alt f2 update-manager -c
[00:04] <carlos82> bazhang: ok... synaptic closed
[00:04] <carlos82> bazhang: running command
[00:04] <AegisX> (I'm on a productivity binge :p)
[00:04] <brontosaurusrex> AegisX, i did, now replaced with kupfer
[00:04] <erUSUL> JeffCBR: xinietd? but xinetd has other conf file/dir
[00:04] <AegisX> brontosaurusrex: How do you find them?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | AegisX
[00:05] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Good point haha
[00:05] <AegisX> ActionParsnip: Will keep it in mind.
[00:05] <carlos82> bazhang: the "-c" options actually put the update-manager to work
[00:05] <carlos82> bazhang: this show me the upgrade option now
[00:05] <Chipzzz> Doxfixit: try typing "locate libhal.so.1" in a terminal
[00:05] <bazhang> carlos82, thats good then
[00:05] <carlos82> bazhang: thanks a lot !!!
[00:06] <brontosaurusrex> AegisX, ? they have shortcuts to show up on a good day, kupfer has a bad day today i notice....
[00:06] <carlos82> thanks community !!!
[00:06] <Mike__> hi. I have a problem with my vncserver. i found a config what i have copyed to /etc/init.d/vncserver. Then i typed update-rc.d vncserver defaults. When i run from terminal /etc/init.d/vncserver start, than everything works fine. I can connect to server, i can start programs, etc... But when i reboot, and the server starts automatically, then when i connect to the server i can't start programs or anyting. So what can be the problem ?
[00:06] <carlos82> good bye
[00:06] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, I get a command prompt with no errors.
[00:06] <AegisX> brontosaurusrex: I mean to say, do you find them useful?
[00:07] <cbacelar> hey! i need to configure the wireless device on my dell mini 10. can anyone help me?
[00:07] <Chipzzz> then it is missing...
[00:07] <ugliefrog> I used to enjoy watching the buffered flash videos from the tmp dir....now they are no longer there...where have they been moved too
[00:07] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, that lightworks is for windows
[00:07] <bazhang> cbacelar, whats the chipset; lspci in terminal to paste.ubuntu.com
[00:07] <JeffCBR> erUSUL: Ok, maybe this question is below this channel, but does Ubuntu use inetd.conf?
[00:08] <brontosaurusrex>  induz_ forget it, ok, i dont feel like explaining again
[00:08] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, I'm running on a usb thumbdrive.  Does Ubuntu know to write all changes to the persistant partition?
[00:08] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: type "apt-get install --reinstall libhal1"
[00:08] <ohsix> ugliefrog: what browser were you using? i don't know of one that puts them there :O
[00:09] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: sorry... type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libhal1"
[00:09] <brontosaurusrex> AegisX, i think a person actually needs a 3 way navigation: a. menus with sections like internet/xchat, b. some sort of nice looking buttons (think launcy) c. kupfer
[00:09] <azizLIGHTS> for ssh keys how come u put ur public key onto the server? why dont you get the server's public key to keep on your machine?
[00:09] <ugliefrog> ohsix, Im using chrome
[00:09] <brontosaurusrex> AegisX, then you can extend kupfer with tracker if you have resources
[00:09] <AegisX> brontosaurusrex: Good answer haha. I'll give them both a look.
[00:10] <brontosaurusrex> AegisX, or use termianl or somethink like catfish
[00:10] <brontosaurusrex> *terminal
[00:10] <Jordan_U> ugliefrog: They're still stored in /tmp, sort of. They are unlinked immediately after being created. This script will "undelete" the flv files: http://pastebin.com/W7jGmM4r
[00:10] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, It said 1 newly installed.
[00:10] <AegisX> brontosaurusrex: Gotcha.
[00:10] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: it should run now
[00:10] <ohsix> ugliefrog: well it sounds like they changed the behaviour of the browser, you'll have to talk to them
[00:11] <ugliefrog> ohsix, :)
[00:11] <AegisX> Another thing; is it possible to hide the connected/quit messages on xchat?
[00:11] <drc> AegisX: yes
[00:11] <AegisX> I've checked the settings; can't seem to find it.
[00:11] <jsw_> azizLIGHTS: You'll have to read about how public-key cryptography works to really understand, but the short answer is that the "public" key is what is used to verify that the other party really has posession of its matching "private" key.  And you do actually get the ssh server's public key on your machine in .ssh/known_hosts so you know the server is not being "spoofed" :)
[00:11] <Chipzzz> Docfixit: I would assume the changes will be persistant on the thumb drive
[00:12] <cbacelar> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/569404
[00:12] <mamece2> i cant boot ubuntu 10.04 32 bit. a message appears: ubuntu is running in low graph mode, it never boots GUI. ctrl+alt+F7 brings tht modprobe vboxfailed
[00:12] <AegisX> drc: How would I go about it?
[00:12] <drc> AegisX: I show channels as tabsso...rightclick on the channel tab...Settings
[00:12] <mufasis> what do i need to use putty to get into ubuntu server from a remote location?
[00:12] <cbacelar> bazhang oops.. this is wrong
[00:12] <AegisX> drc: Ah! Thank you
[00:12] <cbacelar> sorry
[00:13] <bazhang> cbacelar, that looks like the vbox
[00:13] <derek_> Hey, I am trying to unrar a file in Ubuntu 10.10 AMD64, but I can't find a good GUI to do that with. can I have any help?
[00:13] <drc> AegisX: drove me carzy for a while until someone showed me...so many joins/parts
[00:13] <r000t> Hello! When I purchased a VPS, it came with a /64 IPv6 block. I don't know if any of the addresses were assigned to the machine. ifconfig shows the block, but I can't use ping6 outside of ::1. How do I check to see if an address was assigned, and how do I allow it to use IPv6? The server is Ubuntu Server 10.04
[00:13] <AegisX> drc: Haha tell me about it
[00:13] <Chipzzz> mamece2: is it the host or a virtual machine that won't boot?
[00:13] <hilarie> Hey, YOU, yeah, YOU, YOU seem smarter then me, could you review this for a moment, and tell me why CPU Frequency Scaler isn't giving me 100mhz speedtests like this reports? http://paste.ubuntu.com/569398/
[00:13] <mamece2> chipzzz is the host machine
[00:13] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, When I run it I get an error with lots of lines that start with Start watching.
[00:14] <itaylor57> !rar | derek_
[00:14] <derek_> !info unrar-free
[00:15] <derek_> itaylor57: thanks bro
[00:15] <Chipzzz> mamece2: press space while the machine boots and select recovery mode & failsafe graphics when the choices are offered
[00:16] <K|nG> Can someone help me how i Can open PORT 80 on my debain
[00:16] <r000t> My eth0 has a inet and inet6 address. The inet6 is a /64 block. How do I allow programs to bind to a v6 address?
[00:16] <Chipzzz> K|nG: are you running a server?
[00:16] <itaylor57> derek_: np
[00:17] <derek_> itaylor57: not a gui though... damn
[00:17] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, The next line says: Cannot get device list  (only when you get a chance.  I realize you are busy)
[00:17] <K|nG> Chipzzz: Yeahh
[00:18] <Chipzzz> K|nG: a firewall?
[00:18] <cbacelar> bazhang yes.. i was wrong.. sorry.. the network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY ...  it's without internet..
[00:18] <K|nG> Chipzzz: yeahh Wanna Open my port 80
[00:18] <mamece2> can someone help me with partitions?
[00:18] <azizLIGHTS> what do i need to get from teh server (ssh keys wise) in order to be able to passwordless login from windows using putty client
[00:19] <Chipzzz> Docfxit: are you starting it as root? i.e. (gksudo doublecmd)
[00:20] <uRock> 420
[00:21] <vale_> hey there
[00:21] <Chipzzz> K|nG: which firewall?
[00:21] <vale_> i've got a problem installing ubuntu from usb
[00:21] <brontosaurusrex>  azizLIGHTS the theory http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152 , dunno if you can do that with putty
[00:21] <dtcummin> I installed Ubuntu-Desktop on a Server installation with "sudo aptitude  install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now I would like to install all of the recommends. How can I do this?
[00:21] <vale_> installation get stuck
[00:22] <vale_> neither 10.04 nor 10.10
[00:23] <vale_> why?
[00:23] <b__> azizLIGHTS, i guess you  can http://www.blindhog.net/linux-ssh-passwordless-login-with-putty/
[00:23] <uRock> vale_, what is going wrong with the installs?
[00:24] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, When I start it as root I don't get the error.  It also doesn't run.
[00:24] <Chipzzz> Docfxit: lol... are there any error messages?
[00:25] <vale_> uRock: i get into the live mode, launch installing and installation stops at third step
[00:25] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, no error messages.
[00:25] <vale_> no, error messages
[00:25] <vale_> no er mess
[00:25] <vale_> tried with 10.04 but still the same
[00:26] <drc> AegisX: PM?
[00:26] <vale_> however,live mode works well
[00:26] <Chipzzz> Docfxit: try typing "locate doublecmd" and when you get the full path, type that
[00:26] <r000t> I'm trying to connect to an IPv6 address, but I get a "network is unreachable" error
[00:26] <uRock> That is weird
[00:27] <r000t> Any way to add the IPv6 block to things I can connect through?
[00:27] <vale_> is there another way to install ubuntu?
[00:27] <vale_> fro network?
[00:27] <vale_> from
[00:27] <Mike__> hi. I have a problem with my vncserver. i found a config what i have copyed to /etc/init.d/vncserver. Then i typed update-rc.d vncserver defaults. When i run from terminal /etc/init.d/vncserver start, than everything works fine. I can connect to server, i can start programs, etc... But when i reboot, and the server starts automatically, then when i connect to the server i can't start programs or anyting. So what can be the problem ?
[00:27] <Chipzzz> Docfxit: (precede the full path with gksudo, of course)
[00:27] <vale_> i'm re-installing ubuntu because i've done something wrong with grep
[00:28] <vale_> if could be possible fix it...
[00:28] <induz_> brontosaurusrex, that Opensource is Not opensource
[00:28] <Docfxit> Locate doublecmd comes back with a cmd line and nothing else.
[00:28] <StepNjump> Can anyone tell me how to log everything that comes through my screen on x chat unto my hda?
[00:29] <r000t> I have a /64 block listed in my ifconfig for eth0. How do I set it up so irssi, unreal, lynx, ping6, etc, can use it?
[00:29] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: yep clamav works great
[00:29] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: i even installed klamav frontend
[00:30] <n2diy> I can't start Firefox, I'm told it is already running, I ran killall firefox, and deleted all the lock and .parentlock files, but it still won't start. Same thing for Seamonkey?
[00:30] <JeffCBR> I'm trying to understand my new Ubuntu system and having some trouble. I understand that, in Linux, /etc/inetd.conf will start things when the machine boots up, and that there is a way force it to be reexecuted without rebooting, but I can seem to find anything consistent.
[00:30] <uRock> n2diy, log out and back in again
[00:31] <mikeliss> Anybody here have the default my.cnf file for MySQL on 10.04?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> JeffCBR: No, inetd is for configuring services to start on demand.
[00:31] <mikeliss> Or know where to find it?
[00:31] <JeffCBR> I see.
[00:31] <Jordan_U> JeffCBR: What is your end goal?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: sweet
[00:31] <uRock> mikeliss, it should be a hidden file in /home
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: you can cron the command to scan so if the system is on it will scan regularly
[00:31] <hilarie> Okay, http://library.gnome.org/users/cpufreq-applet/stable/cpufreq-applet-prefs.html.en Doesn't tell me... I want more options on scaling my CPU, right now it only gives me 25 50 and 100%
[00:32] <mufasis> what do i need installed on my ubuntu server to use putty to remotely connect?
[00:32] <vale_> sotty
[00:32] <uRock> mufasis, you don't need putty
[00:32] <vale_> sorry
[00:32] <ohsix> mufasis: openssh
[00:32] <vale_> as i was saying, is there a way to fix grep?
[00:32] <cbacelar> bazhang ?
[00:33] <mufasis> i need the openssh package on ubuntu correct and if im using a windows machine to log on i can use putty right>
[00:33] <JeffCBR> Jordan_U: To learn to operate my system better. I had talkd enabled in inetd.conf and now I've commented it out, so I want to force the changes without rebooting.
[00:33] <mufasis> ?
[00:33] <albertogarcia197> After install openssh, you can connect with: ssh user@host
[00:33] <ohsix> uRock: chances are that doesn't really matter & doesnt answer his question anyways
[00:33] <mikeliss> uRock, Nope, don't see it there.
[00:33] <vale_> or the boot loader, whatever the name...
[00:33] <azizLIGHTS> mufasis: u want this? http://www.blindhog.net/linux-ssh-passwordless-login-with-putty/
[00:33] <overclucker> mufasis: openssh-server package
[00:33] <JeffCBR> uRock: Were you suggesting another SSH client? I use PuTTY on Windows.
[00:34] <Jordan_U> vale_: What needs fixing about grep?
[00:34] <Chipzzz> Docfxit: I'm out of ideas, but here's a link to the doublecmd forum... maybe there's some help there: http://doublecmd.sourceforge.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=5
[00:34] <uRock> JeffCBR, this isn't a WIndows channel
[00:34] <uRock> JeffCBR, he/she didn't say they were on WIndows
[00:34] <CarlFK> vale_: grub
[00:34] <vale_> Jordan_U: when i turn on pc, it simply gets on loop and reboot over and over
[00:35] <jenia> How do I configure gnome, so that it starts in compiz mode instead of me starting it every time, when I load gnome? I don't want to start it after gnome loads by some means, but I need the gnome to load already with compiz.
[00:35] <JeffCBR> uRock: You're right. I shouldn't have assumed that.
[00:35] <Jordan_U> vale_: What do you see when you boot?
[00:35] <JeffCBR> mufasis: Are you trying to connect from Windows?
[00:35] <uRock> nah assume as you will, my assumption may had been wrong
[00:35] <vale_> nothing, just the first bios screen
[00:35] <ohsix> jenia: open the appearance applet in system -> preferences, set it to extra or custom
[00:36] <vale_> you know, that one with company name
[00:36] <CarlFK> vale, that is not "nothing" ;/
[00:36] <Docfxit> Chipzzz, Thank you very much for all your help.
[00:36] <CarlFK> vale_: what else don't you see :)
[00:36] <uRock> ohsix, says all of my advice is wrong anyway, so I'll just sit back and shut up
[00:36] <r000t> What do I add to /etc/network/interfaces to use my IPv6 address?
[00:36] <jenia> ohsix: I have to do it every time I reboot, what config do I need to change, so it stays.
[00:36] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: what is the verbose on that? because I tried man clamav. No manual entry for clamav
[00:36] <vale_> just that screen, and then pc reboot over and over
[00:36] <JeffCBR> uRock: You were assuming he ask what ssh client in Ubuntu to use?
[00:37] <ohsix> jenia: exactly what i just said
[00:37] <mufasis> yeah sorry guys im using windows to connect
[00:37] <CarlFK> vale_: hold down the shift key - you should get a grub menu
[00:37] <mufasis> just wanted to make sure i need openssh server on the ubuntu
[00:37] <lastm> Evolution -- not prompting for pgp pass phrase upon receipt of encrypted email.  Any hints?
[00:37] <vale_> so, if i could fix grub it would be great
[00:37] <Chipzzz> Drfxit: are you still here?
[00:37] <JeffCBR> mufasis: You do. It's not installed by default on the Desktop version.
[00:37] <jenia> ohsix: Exactly what you just said, I have to do every time I reboot, what config file do I need to change, so it stays.
[00:38] <vale_> CarlFK: sorry, do you mean the second key from left bottom?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: man clamscan
[00:38] <CarlFK> vale_: in think so - the one that makes a an A
[00:38] <Chipzzz> Docfxit: if you are still here, I found this, which might help: http://ubuntu.se/archive/index.php/t-14899.html?s=edd5884cb0c89b448ad2bd9807bf1b87
[00:38] <StepNjump> oh!!!
[00:38] <vale_> CarlFK: lol, got it XD
[00:39] <thunkee> vale_: if yoe are able to press esc and see grub configuration have a lokk there ... with a install cd you boot an installed system
[00:39] <overclucker> JeffCBR: when did they start doing that?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: remember to run: sudo freshclam       first. adding the clam av ppa will give you newer defs and engine
[00:39] <vale_> i'll get it a try
[00:39] <vale_> give me 5 min
[00:39] <vale_> later!
[00:39] <CarlFK> g luck
[00:39] <r000t> Are any of my messages visible?
[00:39] <StepNjump> actionparsnip ahaha these *nix guys are funny... freshclam! lol
[00:39] <StepNjump> tnx!
[00:40] <JeffCBR> overclucker: Sorry, doing what?
[00:40] <CarlFK> r000t: yep
[00:40] <r000t> OK.... so I assume nobody here knows how to configure IPv6
[00:40] <overclucker> JeffCBR: you mentioned that ubuntu desktop includes openssh-server by default now
[00:40] <CarlFK> r000t: quite posible.
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: makes sense :)
[00:40] <JeffCBR> overclucker: No, I said it doesn't. At least I tried to.
[00:41] <os11> Does Ubuntu prefer GNU/Linux?
[00:41] <os11> Or just Linux?
[00:41] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: Makes me hungry though!
[00:41] <r000t> os11, they're the same
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> os11: err wut?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; sudo freshclam
[00:41] <overclucker> JeffCBR: ah, never mind, i missread what you said
[00:42] <thunkee> os11: gnu/linux means linux kernel + gnu tools ... so almost every distri is gnu linux
[00:42] <os11> Yeah but it's not like all GNU tools are LINKED.
[00:43] <os11> They are only LOOSELY linked by the same LICENSE, no?
[00:43] <os11> That's like saying Creative Commons is an OS!
[00:43] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: Thanks! I'm ddoing it now. How do you know all these commands?
[00:44] <JeffCBR> Usually, when people say Linux they are referring to GNU/Linux.
[00:44] <ohsix> oh boy, this again :D
[00:44] <Lint01> take that s..t elsewhere please
[00:44] <overclucker> os11: dems fightin' werds
[00:44] <ohsix> os11: ubuntu uses "Ubuntu" as their trademarked identity
[00:45] <hilarie> Okay, really, I have googled this to death http://paste.ubuntu.com/569398/ Doesn't line 26 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
[00:45] <hilarie>  mean that I should be able to change my processor speeds in 100mhz steps?
[00:45] <os11> But they do use Linux source code
[00:45] <os11> The kernel, a CORE part of the OS
[00:45] <ohsix> os11: the linux kernel images have just linux in the name
[00:45] <vale_> nothing happened :(
[00:45] <n2diy> uRock, didn't work, I even restarted, but Firefox won't play
[00:45] <os11> ohsix: Good.
[00:45] <os11> It should stay that way.
[00:45] <CarlFK> vale_: what does nothing mean this time?
[00:45] <os11> GNU is aggressively free software
[00:46] <IdleOne> !ot
[00:46] <os11> !ot
[00:46] <ohsix> os11: this is offtopic, you should probably argue somewhere else, canonical might have a position statement on that, but i haven't seen it and i don't represent them
[00:46] <vale_> i've also tried "boot from first HD" from a live usb, but nothing happened too
[00:46] <jenia> What config file do I need to change, so that gnome starts with compiz instead of metacity. When I enable special effects it reverts back to metacity as soon as I reboot. I don't want to start it from within gnome after it loads by some gnome application autostart or compiz-fusion-icon, because it's suboptimal, since it switches to compiz after metacity loads. I want it to load directly into...
[00:46] <jenia> ...compiz. It used to work before. I did something a while ago and can't figure out how to change it back.
[00:46] <mufasis> just another quick question, i have two packages in the form of .deb files that i need to install, they are already on my server, how do i install them with all their dependencies etc?
[00:46] <thunkee> !enter
[00:46] <Lint01> mufasis, manually, dpkg do not track dependencies
[00:46] <vale_> CarlFK: that the grub didn't appeared
[00:46] <os11> !enter | the_drow
[00:46] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: yep, the fresh clams are in the boat.. daily.cld is up to date (version: 12734, sigs: 47803, f-level: 58, builder: guitar)
[00:46] <overclucker> mufasis: dkkg -i package.deb
[00:47] <StepNjump> Thank you a million!
[00:47] <mufasis> will that include dependencies?
[00:47] <JeffCBR> How can I force the changed to /etc/inetd.conf without a reboot?
[00:47] <Lint01> mufasis, no
[00:47] <os11> I don't know.
[00:47] <CarlFK> vale_: did it reboot like before?
[00:47] <Lint01> IT´S NOT DPKG WORK
[00:47] <vale_> yes
[00:47] <os11> Will this channel support Linux Mint?
[00:47] <mufasis> how do i include dependencies?
[00:47] <IdleOne> os11: no
[00:47] <StepNjump> So much easier than windoze, click here and then do you see this icon at the top right a little bit lower than the other icon there. What color is your page? What do you see at the top? ah gosh! I hate that stuff!
[00:47] <os11> IdleOne: It is a subset of Ubuntu.
[00:48] <IdleOne> os11: it is not Ubuntu. they have their own channel
[00:48] <IdleOne> !mintsupport > os11
[00:48] <vale_> best thing, is i can't reinstall ubuntu from usb
[00:48] <Lint01> fragmentation is a bane of linux
[00:48] <CarlFK> ubottu: !mint
[00:49] <StepNjump> So much easier than windoze, click here and then do you see this icon at the top right a little bit lower than the other icon there. What color is your page? What do you see at the top? ah gosh! I hate that stuff! actionparsnip
[00:49] <Guest5014> Hello...  I was wondering, is there a way I can get the battery indicator app to not display my cell phone charge when my iphone is connected?
[00:49] <ohsix> os11: mint is a hack job, not a subset
[00:49] <mufasis> i got it
[00:49] <Lint01> StepNjump, can you make sence just for a change?
[00:49] <mufasis> sudo dpkg -i --force-depends *.deb
[00:49] <Chipzzz> mufasis: if you're worried about dependencies, run sudo apt-get check
[00:49] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: That's why I liked DOS and VMS back in the 80's... This stuff is great. I don't have much of a photographic memory unfortunately
[00:49] <cynical> ohsix: I dunno, I kind of like mint
[00:49] <vale_> CarlFK: any idea?
[00:49] <Lint01> mufasis, that will just ignore dependencies, not INSTALL them
[00:50] <StepNjump> Lint01, you should learn to type first!
[00:50] <CarlFK> vale_: what happened to break things?
[00:50] <JeffCBR> How can I force the changed to /etc/inetd.conf without a reboot?
[00:51] <IdleOne> JeffCBR: source /etc/inetd.conf I think will work
[00:51] <vale_> CarlFK: by mistake, i pressed F4 and entered on recovery mode. when I realised i pressed the wrong key, i reeboted pc and KA-BOOM!
[00:51] <mamece2> well nobody could help me with my problem, i should reinstall everything, can somebody help me do a backup of my stuff?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: thats why man pages exist ;)
[00:51] <zosky> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default = <VirtualHost *:80>, so i made a copy (http://zosky.pastebin.com/KsVmkCi3) used a2ensite to activate and restarted apache... but it will not respond on localhost:85 ? help please
[00:52] <vale_> the infinite oblivion of loop
[00:52] <JeffCBR> IdleOne: What's that supposed to do?
[00:52] <CarlFK> vale_: that should not have caused what you have now
[00:53] <seagullarity> I'm having just the worst time calibrating my new touchscreen....I'm running Ubuntu 8.10...does anybody know if I should go the route of xorg.conf, or HAL, or udev?
[00:53] <IdleOne> JeffCBR: as I understand it reloads the file so the new values are used. but I am honestly not certain
[00:53] <JeffCBR> IdleOne: Tried it. No dice.
[00:53] <vale_> but just a moment before all worked perfectly, and a moment after all went wrong
[00:53] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: yeah but for a newbie... it's not easy even with the man pages. Often times it doesn't work. Either I don't use the right switch or something else goes wrong. I will get used to it! I found it easier in DCL under VMS
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> seagullarity: intrepid isn't supported
[00:53] <mycosys> jeffcbr sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[00:53] <IdleOne> JeffCBR: I know when I source ~/.bashrc it works
[00:53] <seagullarity> you mean in this channel?
[00:54] <CarlFK> vale_: my advice: boot from a live cd, mount the drive, see if you can see your data.  if so, figure out how to back it up., then reinstall.
[00:54] <seagullarity> ohhh, I get it .... this is an official channel, sorry
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> seagullarity: anywhere, its EOL and dead
[00:54] <OY1R> Q why does Ubuntu open firefox when i press Alt Gr ?
[00:54] <milamber> !8.10 | seagullarity
[00:54] <vale_> CarlFK: data are not a problem, HD is empty
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> OY1R: do you have a shortcut to run the browser?
[00:54] <JeffCBR> How does the Internet Superserver work in Ubuntu?
[00:54] <boxybrown> when you perform a tasksel install, it brings up a curses display
[00:54] <mycosys> !jaunty
[00:54] <boxybrown> is there a way to cancel this?
[00:54] <vale_> CarlFK: the problem is I can't install ubuntu
[00:54] <TitanShadow> Sorry to repost here but, does anyone know how to tell the indicator battery icon to not display the iphone charge level?
[00:54] <boxybrown> ie is there a way to cancel a tasksel install
[00:54] <vale_> installation stops at third step
[00:54] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: Your help is invaluable here on this channel inDEED.
[00:54] <boxybrown> ctrl-c doesnt do anything
[00:54] <seagullarity> I get it....I'm running linuxmce, so that's my lot in life
[00:55] <CarlFK> vale_: ppfft.  then reinstall.  way easier than trying to figure out how to fix. ... why can't reinstall?
[00:55] <seagullarity> thank you
[00:55] <OY1R> ActionParsnip, turned out i did but i did not put it there, i removed it.
[00:55] <StepNjump> actionparsnip: How can a normal human would have found that for the man page for clamav is clamscan! They are not make it easy at times.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> seagullarity: linuxmce isn't supported here
[00:56] <Senjai> StepNjump, welcome to linux
[00:56] <vale_> have the same problem both 10.04 and 10.10
[00:56] <K-Rich> Can anyone tell me the very first script ran when a user logs in from GDM ?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: thats why clamtk and klamscan (or whatever kde uses) exists
[00:56] <thunkee> StepNjump: try apropos
[00:56] <hilarie> Could someone please take 10 secounds and explain to me if http://paste.ubuntu.com/569398/ tells me if there are, will, could be, if its at all possible, to scale my processor, in speedsteps, other then, 25, 50, and 100% without using my bios, or if this is the wrong thing to look at, please tell me that too, I have been googling this for hours, the only information available, is for when it wasn't a default to let you change stuff with CPU FR
[00:56] <hilarie> EQ monitor, etc etc, I don't want to overclock, I just need a bit more control over my CPU
[00:56] <JeffCBR> There is no inetd in /etc/init.d/... also no inetd process in ps -ef
[00:57] <OY1R> do i have to restart in order for keyboard shortcuts to take effect ?
[00:57] <vale_> CarlFK: so, i think fix grub is the easier way
[00:57] <vale_> isn't it?
[00:57] <jsw_> hilarie: My CPU speed also only scales to those clock rates.  I don't see why this is a big problem.
[00:57] <CarlFK> vale_: if it was, you would have done it by now.  if the installer can't install it, I have no idea how either
[00:57] <hilarie> Jsw_ My laptop overheats at 100%, but stays quite cool at 50%, would like to tweak in-between,
[00:57] <jsw_> I have the AMD Athlon II X6.  No clue if this is a CPU-specific thing but perhaps that will help you
[00:58] <KM0201> how do you make small adjustments in alsamixer (it goes from 0-50, then 50-100... how would i set it at say, 35, or 65
[00:58] <ohsix> hilarie: set the thermal trip point properly
[00:58] <CarlFK> vale_: what happens when you try to install ?
[00:58] <StepNjump> senjai: lol, thunkee thanks I will give that a try. Ok actionparsnip. I take notes here so you don't have to repeat yourself. I will learn, I will learn!
[00:58] <hilarie> Thermal Trip point?
[00:58] <JeffCBR> mycosys: There is no inetd in /etc/init.d/... also no inetd process in ps -ef
[00:59] <vale_> CarlFK: installation just let me wait for the eternity at third step
[00:59] <vale_> it doesn't go ahead
[00:59] <jacky> hello
[00:59] <boxybrown> exit
[00:59] <rocco> hi
[00:59] <CarlFK> vale_: do you have a mix of ide and sata or something?
[01:00] <ohsix> hilarie: yea, sometimes its not set right from the bios, but you can set it to an appropriate temperature and force it to throttle when it hits it
[01:00] <JeffCBR> vale_: Is it the step where you select your username and password?
[01:00] <vale_> i don't know, how can i see it?
[01:00] <itaylor57> Senjai: "Welcome to linux" (or is it GNU/linux?) LOL
[01:00] <vale_> JeffCBR: no, the timezone step
[01:00] <Senjai> itaylor57, whatever, lol
[01:00] <hilarie> ohsix, I don't want to throttle my processor due to heat, ubuntu handles that wonderfully, kicking me down to 25% if I stay at 100% for to long.
[01:01] <hilarie> What I want to do, is see if I can run at 60% without dropping down to 25, then possible 65
[01:01] <hilarie> etc
[01:01] <CarlFK> vale_: boot from live cd, system, admin, disk manager
[01:01] <vale_> i've also tried ultilex without success
[01:01] <mycosys> jeffcbr - update-inetd
[01:01] <vale_> CarlFK: ok
[01:02] <vale_> CarlFK: actually, i'm typing from that pc
[01:02] <ohsix> hilarie: if it is dropping down to lower cpu speeds then theres probably nothing to do; and increasing them would only waste power
[01:02] <vale_> with a live distro on usb
[01:02] <hilarie> ohsix, its dropping down due to heat reasons...
[01:03] <henry952> whats a good free x rated site??
[01:03] <vale_> disk is an ATA samsung etc...
[01:03] <vale_> port 1 of SATA host adapter
[01:03] <hilarie> !ot henry952
[01:03] <CarlFK> vale_: so just one disk?
[01:03] <vale_> yes
[01:03] <vale_> 4 partitions
[01:03] <induz> finally i am on kbuntu from ubuntu
[01:04] <CarlFK> vale_: any usb sticks or memory cards plugged in?
[01:04] <induz> Kbuntu KDE is a lot better in terms of look
[01:04] <vale_> CarlFK: yes, the usb where is loaded ubuntu right now
[01:04] <CarlFK> vale_: or phone?  my laptop wont[ boot if my phone is plugged in. I think it is trying to boot from my phone
[01:04] <ohsix> induz: bzzzt
[01:04] <henry952> whats runs better on netbooks ubuntu or win xp???
[01:04] <induz> how can i make fonts of application/documents small and sharp
[01:04] <vale_> when i try to reboot, there's anything plugged on
[01:05] <JeffCBR> mycosys: Did not have the expected results.
[01:05] <kty1104> hello
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> induz: that is speculative and not concrete
[01:05] <r000t> Ubuntu has a major bug which prevents it from using IPv6
[01:05] <mycosys> read its man dude - using it forces inetd to reload inetd.comf
[01:05] <kty1104> is it possible that there is no bash file in bin folder?
[01:05] <ohsix> induz: well you're asking how to setup kde now, you should probably find a kubuntu channel
[01:05] <mycosys> no it doedsnt r000t
[01:06] <thunkee> henry952: www.x.org http://lifehacker.com/#!5471394/five-best-netbook-operating-systems
[01:06] <henry952> ty ty
[01:06] <kty1104> is it possible that there is no bash file in bin folder? please help T.T...
[01:06] <induz> ohsix, i have KDE now working so far
[01:06] <chrislu5tic> hi there
[01:06] <r000t> Well mycosys it seems nobody here knows how to configure it, and Ubuntu is refusing to use the address listed in ifconfig... or any address for that matter!
[01:06] <induz> It took me a while to migrate from gnome to KDE/
[01:06] <chrislu5tic> i have a problem
[01:07] <mycosys> induz - there is a dpi setting somewhere iirc
[01:07] <induz> do i have to change the cahnelle for KDE
[01:07] <induz>  i thought its a part of ubuntu
[01:07] <vale_> CarlFK: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html could this help me?
[01:07] <induz> iirc??
[01:07] <CarlFK> vale_: try the alternate install.  if it hangs on looking at your disk, hit Alt-F4 which shows a log so you can see what it is stuck on.  that should help figure out what needs to be done.  or it will work, and thats good too
[01:07] <Niglop> when i play movies i get a flickering pink line at the bottom?
[01:07] <JeffCBR> mycosys: I read the man page. The problem I believe lies in the fact that there is no inetd process.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Niglop: got latest updates, w32codecs and ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:07] <JeffCBR> mycosys: And I think that is an Ubuntu issue.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Niglop: does it happen in all players
[01:08] <Niglop> yes
[01:08] <kty1104> I downloaded ubuntu kernel Image and I mount it but there is no bash!
[01:08] <JeffCBR> mycosys: I could just kill inetd if there was an inetd process.
[01:08] <vale_> CarlFK: just let me the time to translate what you've typed ;)
[01:08] <ohsix> Niglop: ati video card?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Niglop: yes to which!?
[01:08] <Niglop> ActionParsnip» yes it happens in all ohsix radeon
[01:08] <chrislu5tic> please help. in ubuntu software center it says items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalogue is repaired.. do you want to repair it now? once update manager has finished repairs you can chose it and return to the store.... but after that after I try to repair it it says it cannot repairt it
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Niglop: there was 2 questions..
[01:08] <chrislu5tic> could not remove
[01:08] <induz> mycosys, under what category, please
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Niglop: ok and the first..
[01:08] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what we have here is a trend!
[01:08] <Niglop> doing that now
[01:09] <induz> but now Kdenlive looks good
[01:09] <vale_> CarlFK: alternate doesn't work too
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: trend?
[01:09] <r000t> Can anybody here tell me how to configure a static IPv6 from a /64 listed in ifconfig?
[01:09] <CarlFK> vale_: but alt lets you alt-f4 to see what it is stuck on.
[01:09] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: this fellow and last nights fellow with the video port problems
[01:09] <Niglop> brb
[01:09] <chrislu5tic> i have a problem with my ubuntu software centre.  please help
[01:10] <Aikar> how can i make ubuntu not go to sleep when another computer is accessing shares over Samba?
[01:10] <chrislu5tic> ....
[01:10] <cardamon> chrislu5tic: What's the problem? They're easier to solve when we know what they are.  Otherwise, my best advice is to slowly step away from the keyboard, and do not make eye contact.  They take that as a sign of a aggression.
[01:10] <chrislu5tic> i have a serious problemmm
[01:11] <astarte> is there a way to get remote desktop in ubuntu desktop to run before login
[01:11] <vale_> CarlFK: i've just opened /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:11] <jacky> I have a problem for "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[01:11] <vale_> it's empty :S
[01:11] <ohsix> Aikar: thats a really good question, i don't know that you can; but i'm sure you should file a feature request bug and ask
[01:11] <chrislu5tic> u8buntu software center saysitems canbnot be installed or removed until the package catalogue is repaired... but when i go to repair it... it cannot do it
[01:11] <CarlFK> vale_: on my box: ls: cannot access /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[01:12] <kty1104> is it possible that there is no bash file in bin folder?  what am I suppose to do if I want to chroot to bin/bash?
[01:12] <vale_> CarlFK: :S
[01:12] <Aikar> ohsix: damn, i just finally got my htpc setup to send a WOL to my desktop when turned on, so i set my desktop to sleep now, but was watching a video and it died due to desktop went to sleep :(
[01:12] <vale_> what a dork i am :S
[01:12] <vale_> that is grub loader of live session
[01:12] <chrislu5tic> it says the installation or removal of the package failed... and then just starts the process over again asking me to repair it
[01:12] <twitch> chrislu5tic: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install -f" then "sudo apt-get update"
[01:12] <jacky> I have a problem for "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."   why?
[01:13] <CarlFK> vale_: something about your box is weird.  trying to fix it without understanding the problem is ... um.. weird.  so do something that gives us a clue what the problem is.
[01:13] <thunkee> jacky: what graphic card?
[01:13] <vale_> uhm
[01:13] <jacky>  sorry  I don't know
[01:13] <vale_> ?
[01:13] <jacky> for Graphic card
[01:14] <vale_> ok, next step
[01:14] <jacky> my computer is I5 Intel processor
[01:15] <vale_> this pc hasn't got a cd player, so i mut install ubuntu from usb
[01:15] <vale_> must
[01:15] <twitch> vale_: lspci -v |grep -i vga
[01:15] <chrislu5tic> twitch i have no idea what that did
[01:16] <rtdos> is there a program that'll play zzt games (from epic mega-games) ?
[01:16] <induz> where can i set dpi
[01:16] <vale_> when i try to install ubuntu from a usb, installation stops and won't go ahead
[01:16] <mycosys> jeffcbr - seems it isnt installed by default - if you actually need it install xinetd
[01:16] <jacky> ???
[01:16] <vale_> twitch: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[01:16] <mycosys> induz - iirc it is under display
[01:16] <chrislu5tic> E: Unable to locate package f
[01:16] <twitch> chrislu5tic: fixed broken install and updated your repo, now if you run update manager or synaptic it should work
[01:16] <mycosys> been a while since i did it - run xfce on my server
[01:17] <twitch> vale_: that's what graphics card u got
[01:17] <hilarie> Anyone know of a current cpufreq-selector? sudo apt-get install cpufreq-selector gives me nothing, does anyone know of some alternative programs for that?
[01:17] <induz> ok now its better
[01:17] <rtdos> is there a program that'll play zzt games (from epic mega-games) ?
[01:17] <induz> doesn this dpi setting is going too take away my memry
[01:17] <vale_> twitch: ok, so?
[01:17] <induz> i am on desktop not on laptop with no extra video card
[01:17] <induz> so i have to be careful
[01:18] <chrislu5tic> thanks twitch ,  but my ubuntu software centre still says one thing in progress and wont let me use it.. but im going to rebeoot and Ill be back
[01:18] <twitch> vale_: ewps that was intended for jacky
[01:18] <induz>  i am thankful to all of u for helping me to install KDE
[01:18] <mycosys> no induz
[01:18] <induz> especially mycosys
[01:18] <mycosys> no prob induz
[01:18] <vale_> twitch: no pro :)
[01:18] <mycosys> welcome
[01:18] <induz> without u guys it wont be possible for me
[01:18] <induz> now my kdenlive appears better
[01:19] <r000t> How do I assign an IPv6 static address from my /64 block?
[01:19] <schock> do i need to be in a certain directory to run update-initramfs?
[01:19] <mycosys> rly good to know we can help - ur thanks is appreciated induz
[01:19] <twitch> schock: no
[01:19] <induz> mycosys, i used to have thunderbird as my email, i dont see that here
[01:19] <induz> i have to search maybe
[01:20] <mycosys> induz - sudo aptitude install thunderbird
[01:20] <JeffCBR> What are "universe" packages?
[01:20] <mycosys> ina console
[01:20] <schock> twitch: thanks. but then why am i getting no such file or directory...
[01:20] <Niglop> ActionParsnip» got all that stuff you said, its still doing it
[01:20] <twitch> !universe JeffCBR
[01:20] <ohsix> induz: when you switch to kde they also expect you want to use everything kde, you'll have to locate the apps yow were using before
[01:20] <schock> (im in round 2 of trying to install ubuntu10.10 on sony vaioz using http://www.adhocism.net/2010/11/installing-ubuntu-10-10-on-sony-vaio-vpc-z13m9eb/
[01:21] <twitch> !universe | JeffCBR
[01:21] <drc> rtdos: maybe DreamZZT ?
[01:21] <Obamasmommas> Hey?
[01:21] <Obamasmommas> any 1 there
[01:21] <JeffCBR> !inetd
[01:21] <twitch> schock: you putting sudo in front?
[01:21] <rtdos> how can i find out which desktops i have installed and how to launch them? i have a friend who uses text based login and thinks he installed several different desktops but he is not sure which ones or how to launch them.
[01:21] <rtdos> thanks drc.
[01:21] <hilarie> How to uninstall a program, sudo apt-get install, whats the opposite?
[01:21] <vale_> CarlFK: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page could this help me out?
[01:21] <Obamasmommas> Can someone add me on skyp and help me set up my linux
[01:21] <Obamasmommas> ?
[01:21] <schock> twitch: yeah
[01:21] <nertil> autoinstall hilarie
[01:22] <nertil> autoremove sorry
[01:22] <nertil> sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:22] <hilarie> ty
[01:22] <induz> ohsix, thanks for the clarification
[01:22] <induz> i have to go back to Gnime now
[01:22] <ohsix> hilarie: add a minus, apt-get install package-
[01:22] <induz> but now I can re-log and getinto KDE
[01:22] <twitch> schock: whats the output of whereis update-initramfs
[01:22] <hilarie> ahh, ty
[01:22] <Obamasmommas> Can someone plz help me gettingstarted on linux it wont let me boot from my disk it just goes to a blackscreen after the GUI HELP?!?!?!?!?!?
[01:22] <mycosys> hilarie apt-get remove
[01:23] <hilarie> hilarie@ebilKitty:~$ sudo apt-get cpufreqd-
[01:23] <hilarie> E: Invalid operation cpufreqd-
[01:23] <hilarie> Sorry to spam, but Installing this just bumped my processor up to 100%, and my laptop will fry itself soon lol
[01:23] <r000t> Is there a way I can use ifdown ifup on a server I'm SSHing into through the interface I'm taking down? I've been rebooting it but there's gotta be a faster way
[01:23] <edified> obamasmommas did you install linux and the grub bootloader correctler?
[01:23] <schock> twitch: /usr/sbin/update-initframfs /usr/share/man/man8/update-initramfs.8.gz
[01:23] <edified> *correctly
[01:24] <vale_> quitting
[01:24] <vale_> bye!
[01:24] <Obamasmommas> Can someone add me on skype
[01:24] <CarlFK> vale_: maybe.  it isn't what I would do but you are welcome to give it a shot
[01:24] <con-man> I want to make one of my folders visible to windows computers.  I've shared it, mounted it, specified it in Samba but nothing.  What do?
[01:24] <sexcopter> easy question, for ssh, how do I "state" the option "-L 5900:localhost:5900" in the ~/.ssh/config file? The ssh_config manpage is confusing me!
[01:24] <Obamasmommas> Adam Fernet add me on skype
[01:24] <twitch> hilarie: sudo apt-get remove cpufreqd
[01:25] <Lolikzabijaka> may know where to download games for xbox1?
[01:25] <hilarie> Was able to kill it in synamptec, thank you
[01:26] <weissadam> hey folks, is there a way that i can get udev to run programs in the environment of the user that currently has an x session up on :0.0?
[01:26] <hilarie> Rebooting hoping I get cpu speel control back
[01:26] <cardamon> Hey guys, I've got a fresh install on an ancient machine, and I'm trying to trim the fat off the system.  It looks like it disabled gnome's compositing by default.
[01:26] <chrislu5tic> hi tiwtch i am back.. i still have the same problem
[01:26] <twitch> schock: well the program is there "update-initramfs" the cannot find file your telling it to update "update-initramfs -h"
[01:26] <functor> rt2860 issues in 10.10, should i still do http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476007 ?
[01:27] <aeon-ltd> cardamon: if you wanted slim, you should have started with server :)
[01:27] <edified> obamasmommas  did you download a live cd?
[01:27] <twitch> chrislu5tic: whats the error
[01:27] <edified> obamasmommas as long as you download the ISO and then burn it onto a cd, you should be good.  Many distrobutions have automated installations that install linux on the partition that you want.
[01:28] <schock> twitch thanks, i'm looking for one other possibility
[01:28] <Obamasmommas> I am attempting to boot off a live dvd and i put backtrack iso on the disk... i get to the gui and once i try to boot it jst sits in a blackscreen for over 30mins.... i havent been able to boot abd this will be my fist boot...... PLZZZ HELP
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | Obamasmommas
[01:28] <cardamon> aeon-ltd: Wasn't aware that was an option.  Any way to grab it and install it from amount? No burner and this machine iso old it doesn't support booting to USB.
[01:28] <Obamasmommas> Its the same when i try to boot ubuntu!!
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Obamasmommas: your distro isn't supported here
[01:29] <con-man> apologies, I asked a question and rebooted not to see the answer.  I have mounted /dev/sdb1 to /media/, enabled sharing, added it to samba so everyone can see it, but still not visible
[01:29] <hilarie> In attempting to get more control over my CPU frequency, I have now lost all of it, suggestions?
[01:29] <con-man> on windows
[01:29] <Jgilk1> i need some help getting a live wifi connection
[01:29] <Obamasmommas> Ive also tried ubuntu and it did the same
[01:29] <abstrakt> any idea what is likely to be causing a memory leak in gnome? or otherwise?
[01:29] <abstrakt> ubuntu seems leaky :(
[01:29] <mycosys> Obamasmommas try the failsafe option
[01:29] <mycosys> at boot
[01:29] <abstrakt> my memory just keeps eating up and eating up
[01:29] <chrislu5tic> an error occurred please run pakcage manager on the right etc etc. error Broken count >0... this usually means you are running third party with dependencies.. or something it  says
[01:29] <abstrakt> until the system monitor hits the top, it's like less than 5 or 10% cached memory
[01:29] <cardamon> abstrakt: look at everything in top and a see what's hogging the memory.
[01:29] <hilarie> @abstrakt you sure your not looking at the cache?
[01:29] <abstrakt> mostly dark green (actual memory)
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: if you run: free -m   what is output, use a pastebin to give the output
[01:30] <ohsix> abstrakt: leaks are a figment of your misinformation :] check memory use with smem, virtual address space growing is not a leak
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: exactly
[01:30] <schock> twitch i think i forgot to dl one of the deb files
[01:30] <gartral|cr48> what's the name of the program that takes a backup list of installed packages for quick recovery later?
[01:30] <apox> Where does the gwibber save the files i got transfered to my pc ?
[01:30] <hilarie> ActionParsnip Your smart... I broke my CPUFrequency Scaler
[01:30] <apox> Cant find them anywhere :/
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> !clone | gartral|cr48
[01:30] <abstrakt> well I'm talking about the "system monitor" applet, that you can put on your panels
[01:30] <gartral|cr48> apox: /home/USER/Downloads
[01:30] <abstrakt> by default, the "memory" indicator is dark and light green
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: never used it dude, sorry
[01:30] <chrislu5tic> an error occurred please run pakcage manager on the right etc etc. error Broken count >0... this usually means you are running third party with dependencies.. or something it says
[01:30] <hilarie> It unbroke itself, and I am not going to argue with it!
[01:30] <abstrakt> dark for "real" and light for "cache"
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: if you give the output, we can advise
[01:31] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: aptitude isn't part of ubuntu anymore.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> !info aptitude
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: it is
[01:31] <bazhang> gartral|cr48, sure it is
[01:31] <abstrakt> well I'm not back to full memory again, yet, I can tell you what I saw in htop
[01:31] <apox> Nope, they arent there :/
[01:31] <abstrakt> cuz I checked that already
[01:31] <abstrakt> 1 sec
[01:31] <ohsix> gartral|cr48: incorrect; it's not included in the livecd image anymore
[01:31] <twitch> chrislu5tic: when you run sudo apt-get update .. do you get any errors or do they all download fine?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: just because its not ni a default install, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[01:31] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: by "Part of ubuntu" i meant installed by default.
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: no, the apps in the repos which are not default are also "in ubuntu"
[01:32] <bazhang> gartral|cr48, not important. you can install it if you wish
[01:32] <abstrakt> this is what's eating all my memory (so it seems) /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-ziejEE/database -nolisten tcp
[01:32] <chrislu5tic> twitch: they all download fin
[01:32] <chrislu5tic> fine
[01:32] <abstrakt> ActionParsnip: ^
[01:32] <abstrakt> ActionParsnip: let me run free -m, one sec
[01:33] <Jgilk1> can i get some assistance assistance with ubuntu netbook... new to linux have patritioned drive and installed along side windows 7 every thing formes and functions but i cant get it to detect my wireless internet :?
[01:33] <twitch> chrislu5tic: does "sudo apt-get install -f" complete fine?
[01:33] <ohsix> abstrakt: ok, X maps the memory of your video card into its address space, a large part of it isn't actually in use; compare to smem
[01:33] <chrislu5tic> I was downloading things from play.deb when this occurred
[01:33] <r000t> I need help configuring IPv6 on my VPS. The v6 block I was assigned, according to my setup email, is 2001:4830:131:a000::/64, but the v6 address under inet6 in ifconfig is fe80::250:56ff:fe98:8/64. How do I configure it so I can at least use ping6 without getting an error?
[01:33] <schock> twitch ok it worked. i just didn't have all three packages before. thank you.
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Jgilk1: run:  sudo lshw -C network     you will see the wireless chip and you can find guides using that
[01:33] <abstrakt> http://pastie.org/1584165 there's my output of free -m
[01:33] <abstrakt> ohsix: ok well this is obviously something different though
[01:33] <abstrakt> because my system becomes noticably laggy
[01:33] <abstrakt> like just expanding folders in nautilus is really laggy and slow
[01:34] <Jgilk1> actionparsnip how do i run that?
[01:34] <twitch> schock: good stuff
[01:34] <ohsix> abstrakt: post the output of smem, it can be a lot of things other than memory
[01:34] <jenia> What config file do I need to change, so that gnome starts with compiz instead of metacity. When I enable special effects it reverts back to metacity as soon as I reboot. I don't want to start compiz from within gnome after it loads by application autostart or compiz-fusion-icon, because it switches to compiz after metacity loads. I want gnome to load directly into compiz. It used to work...
[01:34] <timewriter> hi
[01:34] <jenia> ...before. I did something a while ago that it stopped working and can't figure out how to change it back.
[01:34] <mycosys> why the hell would they remove aptitude from the default install????????
[01:34] <ohsix> mycosys: it is huge
[01:35] <mycosys> is does much better dependancy resolution than apt
[01:35] <ohsix> and default install = livecd image
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Jgilk1: in a terminal, press CTRL+ALT+T
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: because apt-get does the job is my guess
[01:35] <timewriter> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:35] <Guest25570> hello
[01:35] <mycosys> not if there r dep issues it doesnt lol
[01:35] <twitch> ^
[01:35] <Guest25570> hola
[01:35] <timewriter> >:D<
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: no it doesn't at all, aptitude has a curses gui if you want. Both satisfy deps
[01:35] <mycosys> !ask > timewriter
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: I have NEVER used aptitude and had zero issues
[01:36] <timewriter> ?
[01:36] <bazhang> timewriter, support question?
[01:36] <a123456789> how to kill id
[01:36] <schock> argh. now i have to install the nvidia driver
[01:36] <timewriter> oh , yes
[01:36] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: aptitude tells you all possible dependency resolutions and you can pick among them
[01:36] <timewriter> can you help me build a cage for my dog
[01:36] <timewriter> pls
[01:36] <chrislu5tic> twitch, it now says i have two broken packages in my system i need to remove them
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: that's not "better dep resolution" though is it?
[01:36] <bazhang> timewriter, take silliness to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <r000t> I need help configuring IPv6 on my VPS. The v6 block I was assigned, according to my setup email, is 2001:4830:131:a000::/64, but the v6 address under inet6 in ifconfig is fe80::250:56ff:fe98:8/64. How do I configure it so I can at least use ping6 without getting an error?
[01:36] <schock> how do i switch to run level 3?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: that's "optional deps control"
[01:37] <timewriter> ok , join pls
[01:37] <abstrakt> ohsix: I don't have smem
[01:37] <mycosys> ActionPARSNIP - apt will tel you about issues - aptitude will attempt to resolve them
[01:37] <abstrakt> what package is that in?
[01:37] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: it is if you want to look at the other esolutions instead of the first one just being applied
[01:37] <twitch> chrislu5tic: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[01:37] <hilarie> hilarie@ebilKitty:~$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ?/trip_points /// cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ?/trip_points: No such file or directory Does that mean I can't have trip points, or it they arent set up?
[01:37] <timewriter> stupid linux mint wont boot after update
[01:37] <chrislu5tic> i dont know whatthe package names are
[01:37] <timewriter> lol
[01:37] <jsw_> r000t: The fe80:: address you see configured on your interface is called a "link-local" address, and is like 169.254.0.0/16 addresses.  You need to add the address(es) they allocated you and also configure a default route to whatever gateway you were given
[01:37] <timewriter> "bases on ubuntu"
[01:37] <bazhang> timewriter, ask in mintsupport NOT here
[01:37] <bazhang> !mintsupport | timewriter
[01:37] <r000t> jsw_ so I add the fe80 as gateway in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:37] <chrislu5tic> i dont know he namnes.. butit says i can use the "broken filter" to find them
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: then i suggest you contact the ubuntu team whom i'm sure know their stuff, to say they should switch it around
[01:38] <timewriter> i dont need mint support , i used ubcd and zerofilled the drive
[01:38] <timewriter> ha
[01:38] <jsw_> r000t: What did they tell you the gateway address is, in your setup email?
[01:38] <r000t> They didn't.
[01:38] <jsw_> well, they may have SLAC or router discovery enabled
[01:38] <chrislu5tic> but i have no idea how to use he broken filter
[01:38] <mycosys> is canonical ur religion or something actionparsnip?
[01:38] <r000t> So how do I take advantage of that?
[01:38] <schock> ok i downloaded this proprietary NVIDIA driver direct from nvidia. where do i put it?
[01:39] <mycosys> run it schlock
[01:39] <timewriter> mycosys, are you chinese ?
[01:39] <schock> mycosys: with sh drivername?
[01:39] <timewriter> WOO
[01:39] <sexcopter> hi, does anyone know how to specify a user when tunnelling over ssh with vinagire (VNC remote desktop). i.e. my user is "james" on this machine, but I want to tunnel as "bob" on the remote?
[01:39] <twitch> schock: yes
[01:39] <mycosys> no timewriter
[01:39] <timewriter> oh , australia
[01:39] <timewriter> sorry
[01:39] <schock> error, please exit x before installing
[01:40] <mycosys> so exit x
[01:40] <twitch> mycosys: lol
[01:40] <drpi> I'm trying to install ubuntu on someone's laptop. I'm at the "who are you?" part, but the foward button is dimmed out. The status says "ready when you are..." what do I do now?
[01:40] <schock> mycosys :/ thx
[01:40] <timewriter> press next
[01:40] <Jordan_U> drpi: Make sure that your username doesn't contain any capital letters.
[01:40] <gartral|cr48> alrighty, next problem. how so i intertupt dd?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: if some very experienced people think aptitude should be removed from the default, I'm sure they know more about the OS than you or I. It's optional so you can install it. Where is the issue?
[01:41] <n2diy> Firefox won't start, I did killall Firefox, and deleted all the lock and parent lock files, and it still won't start. I also logged out, and restarted, ideas?
[01:41] <wycks> can someone tell me the command to output a list of  file permissions numerically
[01:41] <mycosys> i am sure there were reasons - i am just surprised
[01:41] <jenia> What config file do I need to change, so that gnome starts with compiz instead of metacity.
[01:41] <gartral|cr48> n2diy: are you out of disk space?
[01:41] <drc> chrislu5tic: maybe System>Admin>Synaptic>Settings>FIlters>Broken ?
[01:41] <chrislu5tic> thanks twitch i have figured it out\
[01:41] <drpi> Jordan_U: Oh thanks lol
[01:41] <chrislu5tic> DRC
[01:41] <chrislu5tic> yes that was it
[01:42] <chrislu5tic> thanks
[01:42] <twitch> !ccsm | jenia
[01:42] <Jordan_U> drpi: You're welcome.
[01:42] <drc> chrislu5tic: hope it works
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: that's fine :)
[01:42] <chrislu5tic> it did work thanks
[01:42] <n2diy> gartral|cr48, no, plenty of disk space, this is a new install.
[01:42] <Jordan_U> n2diy: Can you pastebin the output of "firefox" from a terminal?>
[01:42] <timewriter> i have to go
[01:42] <weissadam> is anybody on here familiar with dbus?
[01:42] <timewriter> bye
[01:42] <gartral|cr48> n2diy: 10.10
[01:42] <chrislu5tic> damn  sandbox game designing software screwed me up
[01:42] <mycosys> i would have got rid of eye candy before that myself
[01:42] <jsw_> r000t: I believe you can do this to enable honoring of router advertisements   echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/accept_ra
[01:43] <abountu> how can I disable compiz
[01:43] <weissadam> ie: can i configure dbus to run scripts as my user based on events, or do i have to have my own daemon that listens to dbus messages?
[01:43] <xangua> abountu: metacity --replace
[01:43] <n2diy> gartral|cr48, yes.
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> abountu: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[01:43] <mycosys> what desktop abountu
[01:43] <jsw_> Then configure some IPs on your interface, following the directions here, and ... see if anything works.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[01:43] <n2diy> Jordan_U, No need to, Command not found.
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: good point
[01:43] <jenia> twitch, I already have it installed. When I enable special effects it reverts back to metacity as soon as I reboot. I don't want to start compiz from within gnome after it loads by application autostart or compiz-fusion-icon, because it switches to compiz after metacity loads. I want gnome to load directly into compiz. It used to work before. I did something a while ago that it stopped...
[01:43] <jenia> ...working and can't figure out how to change it back.
[01:43] <gartral|cr48> Jordan_U: I think i already know the problem, I had an issue wher ff went into a waiting loop... the quickest fix is a purge/install
[01:43] <abountu> myconsys gnome
[01:43] <stodge> ElementTree doesn't seem to be installed and I can't see it in apt-cache - any ideas how to install it on 10.10?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> n2diy: That might be part of the problem :)
[01:44] <Jordan_U> n2diy: Is the firefox package installed?
[01:44] <n2diy> Jordan_U, yes, I guess I need to re-install Firefox, even though this is a brand new install?
[01:44] <hilarie> So I opened nautilus as gksudo, and I am looking for the directory /proc/acpi/fan but I can't find /proc/ where would it be?
[01:44] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I
[01:45] <gartral|cr48> n2diy: are you familiar with Terminal? you should apt-get purge then apt-get install firefox
[01:45] <BluesKaj> ooops
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: use the up arrow on the app, or press CTRL+L and you can type the path
[01:45] <r000t> jsw_ every time I make changes to the /etc/network/interfaces I must reboot the system to make my changes stick. I'd use ifup ifdown but once I use ifdown I'd have no way to get into the machine. Is there a better way to do this, like ifrestart?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: howdy \o
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> r000t: just restart the networking service and it will apply
[01:45] <hilarie> Control L! ty
[01:45] <r000t> ActionParsnip: what command is that?
[01:45] <ohsix> r000t: at now+1minute :]
[01:45] <n2diy> gartral|cr48, yep, Seamonkey is doing the exact same thing, weird.
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> r000t: sudo service networking restart
[01:45] <twitch> jenia: compiz --replace in console
[01:45] <Jordan_U> r000t: sudo service networking restart
[01:46] <gartral|cr48> n2diy: also, I recommend the pre-built FF4 tar from mozilla
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> r000t: if you set a different IP you will be disconnected (obviously)
[01:46] <r000t> I'm connecting with IPv4, trying to setup v6
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: not the mozilla ppa?
[01:46] <schock> twitch: should i install 32-bit openGL libraries for nvidia driver? i'm on 64bit 10.10
[01:46] <jsw_> Since it is a VPS he can probably access its "console" though so that isn't a total disaster :)
[01:46] <schock> does that matter
[01:47] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: that too.. but I use multiple distros, I need too get out of habbit of recommending prebuilts...
[01:47] <twitch> schock: not really no
[01:47] <schock> twitch: thanks
[01:47] <jenia> twitch, as I said, I don't want to start compiz from within gnome after it loads by application autostart or compiz-fusion-icon, or compiz --replace, because it switches to compiz after metacity loads. I want gnome to load directly into compiz. It used to work before. I did something a while ago that it stopped working and can't figure out how to change it back.
[01:47] <twitch> schock: did u download the x64 or x86 nvidia?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: i guess, makes life easier to remove etc, although running upgrade with the ppa enabled will upgrade the non 4.0 to minefield, or whatev er its called
[01:48] <r000t> ActionParsnip: Restart: unknown interface
[01:48] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I'm having difficulty with eth0 not connecting with a static IP in network/interfaces..works fine if I substitute dhcp in the "iface eth0 inet ...." line...any suggestions?
[01:48] <jenia> twitch, I want to know the config file where I can change metacity to compiz manually
[01:48] <r000t> instance*\
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> r000t: bad interfaces file then
[01:48] <schock> twitch: x86
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[01:48] <Tookish> Hi.  Have a little audio problem, hoping for help.
[01:48] <r000t> so, slow slow rebooting is my ONLY option?
[01:48] <schock> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.36.run
[01:49] <hilarie> If I set my trip points (Only 2 options given Critical 105c hot 100c) to like 20C would it make the fan run all the time?
[01:49] <twitch> schock: yuou got the wrong one it wont work
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: if you use static you wil need to define DNS in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:49] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: ahh.. yea. I also like having 3 versions of 3 browsers at any given moment...
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> schock: just run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:49] <schock> ACtionParsnip: that one didn't work
[01:49] <jsw_> r000t if your interfaces file is garbled rebooting may leave the VPS unusable when it comes up; I'd fix it first
[01:49] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: fixes the "ARGH.. why wont you work" factor
[01:49] <schock> twitch: oh crap :P
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: yeah fun and games huh (I just use chromium daily now)
[01:49] <Tookish> Using 10.04, Dell Inspiron 9200 laptop. Sound Preferences>Output shows "Analog Out" and "Analog Out (LFE)" as separate connectors.  Would prefer built in speakers AND build in sub to be on, not one or the other.  Any ideas?
[01:50] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: literally, the games I play don't behave under Chrome/Chromium.
[01:50] <schock> twitch: shit. it's installed. now what ...
[01:50] <Jordan_U> r000t: sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[01:50] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: Google Gave Me A CR-48 too test! :P
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: niiiice, I asked for one
[01:50] <gartral|cr48> !language | schock
[01:51] <schock> sorry :)
[01:51] <jsw_> Tookish: It wouldn't surprise me if you need special OEM drivers for the "built-in subwoofer."
[01:51] <Jordan_U> r000t: Before doing that though I would "sudo shutdown -r now + 10 min" so that if something goes wrong it will reboot automatically.
[01:51] <gartral|cr48> everyone does it once in a while, we aren't #RHEL we won't ban you on first offence!
[01:51] <r000t> Jordan_U eth0 not configured. Now that's a load of bull. I'm using it right now.
[01:52] <r000t> How the hell can it not be configures?
[01:52] <gartral|cr48> see?
[01:52] <Tookish> jsw_:  Will browse dell site, good idea
[01:52] <gartral|cr48> lol
[01:52] <Chilaquiles> Hey somebody could tell me why I was able to plug a flash USB drive and now it doesn't recognize it? and if is possible to fix it?
[01:52] <r000t> Almost like it's saying the kernel is not running
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: how did you remove it from the last system and what file system is it formatted to?
[01:53] <twitch> schock: dont worry .. just download the right one and run it
[01:53] <Chilaquiles> is NTFS
[01:53] <schock> twitch k thx
[01:53] <Chilaquiles> I just unplugged it
[01:54] <ohsix> Chilaquiles: it might need a visit from ntfsfix or windows' chkdsk
[01:54] <Chilaquiles> ohsix: all my flash drives?
[01:54] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: yea, back to topic, ubuntu runs like a DREAM on the cr-48.. everything is workable, EVEN 3/4G
[01:54] <jsw_> Is that the "Google Computer?"
[01:54] <Chilaquiles> ohsix: I could plug any of them and now it doesn't recognize any of them
[01:54] <ohsix> Chilaquiles: if they're all ntfs and stopped working at once it's probably something else
[01:55] <gartral|cr48> jsw_: indeed it is..
[01:55] <Chilaquiles> ohsix: They haven't stoped working because they are working in other computers
[01:55] <gartral|cr48> jsw_: their sweet.. but kinda painful to get used too how you dual-boot.
[01:55] <jsw_> r000t: So here's the thing, if your interfaces *config file* is messed up, you can still be using the network interface right now, but if you reboot it may not work.  This is also why ifdown/ifup probably won't work.
[01:55] <r000t> I just rebooted and it works fine. I'm screwing with the v6 configuration, not the v4 which I'm using to SSH
[01:56] <Jdogg420> where do i goto to change themes on ubuntu 10
[01:56] <ohsix> Chilaquiles: i was only expounding on my statement after you provided more information; i didn't say anything about them in any other computers
[01:56] <Jdogg420> where do i goto to change themes on ubuntu 10
[01:56] <gartral|cr48> r000t: umm.. Ubuntu doesn't like two routes too internet..
[01:56] <twitch> jenia: sry .. I have had a quick search and couldn't find anything .. if it was me i would just remove metacity
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Jdogg420: right click desktop -> change wallpaper, then themes tab
[01:57] <r000t> gartral|cr48: It always worked just fine on my laptop when I was using tunnel broker
[01:57] <sikilpaake> why doesn't gedit work like this? gedit smb://foo/bar.txt ??
[01:57] <jsw_> r000t: This is all in /etc/network/interfaces though right?
[01:57] <r000t> Seems the only way to use v6 is through a tunnel. Native is bugged
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: you can but you need some fancy route commands, its not easy
[01:57] <r000t> yeas jsw_
[01:57] <Chilaquiles> ohsix: The problem is that the computer doesn't recognize any usb flash drive
[01:57] <Jdogg420> now find black slickness
[01:57] <Jdogg420> oops
[01:58] <sikilpaake> i love black slickness
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: then you are abusing your hardware, do you not use the "safetly remove hardware" feature?
[01:58] <gartral|cr48> ActionParsnip: I said Ubuntu doesn't LIKE multiple routes... I never said it couldn't Do it!
[01:58] <mycosys> !weather 2325
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> gartral|cr48: ;)
[01:58] <sikilpaake> um..
[01:58] <mycosys> ooops wrong channel
[01:58] <sikilpaake> can somebody answer my question?
[01:58] <jenia> twitch: I need metacity sometimes. I am breaking my head for a month already trying to solve it. It used just to load normally before.
[01:58] <Smashcat> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on a Dell inspiron laptop, but the installer is buggy and can't find the partitions apparently. Is there a newer release available?
[01:59] <n2diy> Ok, I purged and re-installed firefox, and the exact same thing is happening, when I try and start it from the menu or icon, it is already running, from the cli  the same thing. Killall firefox says no process found?
[01:59] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: Does it see the drive?
[01:59] <mycosys> smashcat - dell have their own release of buntu - may be good to use tht?
[01:59] <Homefix> STAFFER" forgot password reset email please
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: if you run:  ps -ef | grep -i   fire   do you see any firefox processes running?
[01:59] <r000t> this is even more screwed up. I'm USING eth0 to SSH, but it says it can
[01:59] <rww> Homefix: /join #freenode
[01:59] <Chilaquiles> My ubuntu doesn't seem to detect any usb flash drive, is there anything I can do about it?
[01:59] <r000t> 't  briing it up
[01:59] <bazhang> Homefix, not here #freenode
[01:59] <sikilpaake> why doesn't gedit work like this? gedit smb://foo/bar.txt ??
[01:59] <Homefix> Thnk
[01:59] <r000t> Again, it's like talking to someone, but saying your mouth is missing
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: I asked you a question...
[02:00] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Yes, but it doesn't allow me to choose a partition, or do anything except quit - I tried with a clean drive, also with 1 partition, formatted to ext4
[02:00] <r000t> Ubuntu is lying it's ass off
[02:00] <gartral|cr48> r000t: I know this sounds like a horrible PiTA, but try disabling IPv4 then enabling IPv6
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: My guess is that your partition table is actually invalid. Can you run "sudo parted -l" in a terminal and pastebin the output?
[02:00] <r000t> gartral|cr48: I just don't think that's a good idea. Then it will have NO connections to the internet
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: And a screenshot of the installer?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Smashcat
[02:00] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: And I answered you
[02:00] <n2diy> ActionParsnip, yes, one.
[02:01] <gartral|cr48> n2diy: ahh, reboot, sorry
[02:01] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: They have NTFS and I just unplugged them
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: no you didn't you went straight in with reasking the question. Do you NOT use the safe remove hardware feature?
[02:01] <r000t> How is it possible to not be able to bring eth0 up.. then use eth0 to tell me as much?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: that was my second question, there will be a few more
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: is it the grep by any chance?
[02:02] <n2diy> gartral|cr48, I did that too.
[02:02] <jsw_> r000t: Is the network interface within the VPS actually called eth0 or something else?
[02:02] <r000t> jsw_: yeah. it says so in ifconfig
[02:02] <n2diy> ActionParsnip, yes
[02:02] <mycosys> Chilaquiles if you dont use safely remove under windows they will still be marked as in use and ubuntu will not automatically mount them
[02:02] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Ah, it says the partition is fat32 - I know for a fact I changed that to ext4. I also set the label to "/" to help the installer pick it up. I'll try again.
[02:03] <jsw_> if you configure inet6 manually using ifconfig does it "work?"
[02:03] <mycosys> they can be forced to mount but it isnt the best idea
[02:03] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: is there any fix for that?
[02:03] <mycosys> simplest and most reliable is to put em back into a windows boc and use chkdsk Chilaquiles
[02:04] <r000t> jsw_ depending on what I do, I get a network unreachable from connect, or with each ping, it says [whatever address I set as my address]: Destination Unreachable: Address unrachable
[02:04] <r000t> So it would be a horrible idea to use v6 only, as v6 won't work
[02:04] <Jordan_U> r000t: The actions that were intended to be performed by ifup failed for some reason. That is all that error message means. It could be that there was a syntax error in your /etc/network/interfaces and so ifup couldn't (and didn't) do anything at all.
[02:04] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: I already did that and still can recognize anything
[02:04] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: That's my parted output: http://pastebin.com/YrVpfsfR
[02:04] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: Ok what was the next question?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: do you NOT use the safetly remove hardware function in the OS you last pulled it from?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: 3rd time now
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: It is showing an ext4 partition.
[02:05] <mycosys> did you remove them using safely remove after you did it Chilaquiles?
[02:05] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Yeah, realised just after i typed that i was looking at the USB details ;-)
[02:06] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: I said I didn't 2 times ActionParsnip
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: then that's why. You haven't synced the cache and are abusing your hardware!
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: put it back in the last system then safetly eject the hardwrae like you are supposed tio
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: direct replies to me and I will see them
[02:06] <r000t> Well... that server is toast
[02:07] <mycosys> rofl
[02:07] <r000t> Guess I'm complaining to PayPal
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: you will find (amazingly) that the USB now works if you safetly remove the device
[02:07] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: OK Actionparty but the last system was Ubuntu the one that doesn't detect my usb driver
[02:07] <jsw_> r000t: or contact the VPS vendor's support :P
[02:07] <schock> wait twitch, why not the x86_64? it should be the right one
[02:07] <mycosys> ffs Chilaquiles put em in a windows system, run chkdsk on em, use safely remove
[02:07] <mycosys> not hard
[02:08] <r000t> jsw_ they're slow as hell and honestly there are many providers that have v6 configured by default. They just aren't based in Boston
[02:08] <KXTwo> so ive started using transmission as it seems to be the best client but im not getting good speeds
[02:08] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: all my flash drives?
[02:08] <mycosys> yep
[02:08] <mycosys> and use safely remove from now on - it is there for a reason
[02:08] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: why are they working in other systems but not ubuntu then?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: use a windows pc then, or if it works in the other system then safe eject from there
[02:08] <esteban> #tug
[02:08] <xangua> KXTwo: that depends of the seeders
[02:09] <mycosys> Chilaquiles because they are using a filesystem that is not native to ubuntu - it is VERY careful with them
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: its not working because you aren't using the hardware right. You are using NTFS which needs to be ejected to work in Ubuntu
[02:09] <KXTwo> xangua, there are thousands thats not the issue, ive done port forwarding and limited my upload
[02:10] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: but It is working on my other ubuntu machine!!
[02:10] <Who> guys i am having issues with 5.1 sound (realtek)
[02:10] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip:  but It is working on my other ubuntu machine!!
[02:10] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Here's the screenshot of the installer - as I said, there's no options at this point other than going back or quitting: http://imagebin.org/138827
[02:10] <Who> i get some disturbance when using 5.1 sound mode
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: because the cache which needs flushing is on that system, replug it in, safetly remove the device and it will work
[02:11] <KXTwo> is there a transmission channel lol
[02:11] <qwerty1> sup
[02:11] <KXTwo> join #transmission
[02:12] <KXTwo> apparantly not
[02:12] <qwerty1> having a difficult time with ubuntu...I'm a noob...first time using it
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: You can't select the "new partition table" option?
[02:12] <bazhang> !manual | qwerty1 please have a read
[02:12] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Nope, all the options are disabled
[02:12] <Tookish> qwerty1: Tell us about your trouble.
[02:12] <qwerty1> for some reason it thinks that there isn't a wifi connection
[02:12] <Who> umm guys any help for me ?
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: Do you have or have you ever used FakeRAID?
[02:13] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: The dropdown with /dev/sda on it has no options either
[02:13] <Who> i have problem with 5.1 surround sound (realtek)
[02:13] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: No, I haven't.
[02:13] <KXTwo> is wireless connection enabled
[02:13] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip:  It didn't work
[02:13] <Guest87779> hello. I ve installed texlive 2010 with texworks, but cant run it typing "texworks" in a console, what happe?
[02:13] <Tookish> Which version are you using, qwerty1
[02:13] <qwerty1> I installed 10.10...and that's about as far as I can get..it all loads but doesn't wifi
[02:13] <HazRPG> KXTwo: there is, you need to type /join #transmission
[02:13] <sparky44> any programs for ubuntu that can find the no# combo for a sertain color on a web page?
[02:14] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: I did what you told me but it didn't work
[02:14] <KXTwo> HazRPG, yah I found it lol
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: use that in future, you'll have fewer issues
[02:14] <qwerty1> I went to terminal and typed...sudo rfkill unblock wifi.....then for password I assume its my login one
[02:14] <Tookish> Battery low, got to go...
[02:14] <KXTwo> qwerty1, in the upper right corner to the left of the speaker icon is there a wireless icon?
[02:14] <HazRPG> KXTwo: if you ever need to find a channel for something you can talk to the alis bot via /msg alis LIST <search-keywords>
[02:14] <Jordan_U> qwerty1: Correct.
[02:15] <HazRPG> KXTwo: I would recommend using wildcards such as *
[02:15] <qwerty1> yes..its grey with a red !
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: what is the output of:  groups
[02:15] <HazRPG> KXTwo: e.g. /msg alis LIST *transmission
[02:15] <KXTwo> qwerty1, you shouldnt need to do all that, you should be able to do everything without terminal
[02:15] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Well it's not a big deal I guess - wanted to see if the android emulator would run any faster under linux on this laptop, guess it's just not compatible with Linux
[02:15] <Chilaquiles> Actg
[02:15] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: user1 adm dialout fax cdrom dip plugdev fuse netdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[02:15] <Guest87779> hello. I v einstalle texlive 2010 with texworks, but cant run it typing "texworks" in a console
[02:16] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: I'll put the windows drive back in ;-)
[02:16] <HazRPG> KXTwo: the wildcard in the front is because some channels have either # or ##, or some don't have a hash in the front at all
[02:16] <KXTwo> only problem is #transmission is dead
[02:16] <HazRPG> KXTwo: depends on what region most of them are on, over here in the UK its 2:16am
[02:16] <qwerty1> KXT..I read online that ppl with this comp have had wifi issues with 10.10..that's where I found the cmd line
[02:16] <lizhiping> 有人吗
[02:17] <bazhang> !cn | lizhiping
[02:17] <HazRPG> KXTwo: what's the issue exactly?
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: I'm still curious what's happening if you're willing to do some more troubleshooting.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: ok, when you plug the device into the system, run: dmesg | tail    use http://pastie.org to give the result, thanks
[02:17] <HazRPG> I've got an interesting question for you guys; about encryption.
[02:17] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Can do - guessing it's a bug in the installer. I  can work with the drive fine with fdisk, gparted and disk util
[02:18] <HazRPG> I've been looking at this: http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?products_id=119
[02:18] <HazRPG> which is essentially a SIM card type reader
[02:18] <HazRPG> supposedly for encryption
[02:18] <mycosys> Chilaquiles install ntfsfix, and use it
[02:18] <Who> is there a rule i am not following, why my questions are not being answered ?
[02:18] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1584260
[02:18] <bazhang> Who, no
[02:18] <HazRPG> and I recall someone linking me to this: http://www.g10code.com/p-card.html
[02:18] <qwerty1> not use to so many ppl
[02:18] <mycosys> who it is a busy channel and they werent seen by anyone who knew an answer
[02:18] <HazRPG> I was wondering, how would these two together work to store and retrieve PGP keys
[02:18] <HazRPG> would I have to write my own set of applications, or can I use existing ones... and if so which existing ones would word
[02:18] <roknir> i installed a package a long time ago that puts random ubuntu tips and tricks into the motd when i open a terminal, etc.  does anyone know what it's called?
[02:19] <HazRPG> work*
[02:19] <bazhang> roknir, 3rd party? I recall something like that
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: ok if you reboot with it in, is it ok?
[02:19] <roknir> bazhang: i believe it's standard repos
[02:20] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: no
[02:20] <bazhang> roknir, not sure then. you could apt-cache search package it I suppose
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: Can you try rebooting the LiveCD, press any key during the first 5 seconds of boot to get to a menu, then press F6 and select the "nomdraid" option?
[02:20] <markoso> hi i have 2 monitors   1 onboard video and 1 nvidia can i do dualmonitors?
[02:21] <glitchd> can someone tell me how to make a program like chromium open maximized? not fullscreen, just maximized.
[02:21] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: My installer's on a USB stick - is that ok?
[02:21] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: Yes.
[02:21] <bazhang> markoso, you mean two graphics cards?
[02:21] <gartral|cr48> !clone
[02:21] <Onryo> How do I revert to the Nvidia drivers 260. The new 270.18 drivers crash VMWare Workstation 7.1.3 build-324285 on Ubuntu Maverick.
[02:21] <Smashcat> kk
[02:21] <markoso> yes i have 2 cards
[02:22] <markoso> one monitor is plugged into my nviida card the other is in the onboared how can i use both?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: then I'd use that dmesg output to find advice and guides
[02:22] <teddyb> guys a few minutes ago i changed some appearence settings and went from visual effects: extra to visual effects: none and then when i tried to go back to "extra" it told me i needed a graphics driver for my nvidia card and i installed it, it said i needed to reboot and now ubuntu only goes as far as some prompt. it says ubuntu 10.10 ttyl and asks me to login
[02:22] <glitchd> how do i make chromium open maximized??
[02:22] <bazhang> markoso, no idea about 2 cards, but xrandr will let you use a single card
[02:23] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: Yeah but how can I fix it?
[02:23] <markoso> how do do plug 2 monitors into one card?
[02:23] <sharbour> markoso, the only way I know of is to heavily edit your x11.conf file
[02:23] <markoso> adapter?
[02:23] <markoso> how can i do with one card
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: not sure but the dmesg output will help you a lot
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: add the option: -start-maximized
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: maybe others can advise
[02:24] <aladoinsa> can anyone tell me why i can write to this disk, from fstab: UUID=234e7c21-a19c-4e78-8c48-e79ae0d4d39b /media/100gb    ext4    rw,user          0       1
[02:24] <sharbour> markoso, depends on the card.  not all cards can do dual head
[02:24] <sharbour> I normally make sure I have a card with 2 outputs
[02:24] <markoso> oh if it can  doe i need an adapater
[02:24] <|Long|> which apps, it allow me to see all my drives free space? in GUI?
[02:25] <teddyb> hopefully someone can help
[02:25] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, thats still  not making it open maximized, it keeps opening in a window
[02:25] <Onryo> Need to revert my Nvidia drivers back to 260 from 270. How do I do that?
[02:25] <niteshade> gta san andreas won't work anymore since it got upgraded.  Tell me how to get the old one back
[02:25] <mycosys> Chilaquiles have you tried the usb ports at the back rather than the front - looks like it is diconnecting and reconnecting
[02:25] <niteshade> since wine got upgraded
[02:26] <nertil> and nowwwwwwwwwwwwww slammmm dunkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[02:26] <sharbour> markoso, yes if your card supports it, you'll need an adapter like those that used to come (still comes?) with matrox cards
[02:26] <nertil> all starsssssssss
[02:26] <niteshade> gta san andreas won't work anymore since wine got upgraded.  Tell me how to get the old one back
[02:26] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: I've tried that
[02:26] <Chilaquiles> My ubuntu doesn't seem to detect any usb flash drive, is there anything I can do about it?
[02:26] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Tried booting while pressing 5 all the way through the boot - the installer i have gives no options during boot.
[02:26] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, do u have any other ideas??
[02:27] <talaskina> i have a question. i have 4 hard drives I want to raid5 togeather using the software raid in ubuntu. 1 drive is full about 1tb of data. is it possible to raid 3 of them togeather, move the data over, then add the 4th drive into the array and have the data evenly distributed and working as intended?
[02:27] <markoso> ok
[02:27] <teddyb> ill be right back
[02:27] <mycosys> i suspect it is that machine more than that OS Chilaquiles
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: I use devilspie personally but I like the control
[02:27] <thunkee> glitchd: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/cli.html
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: That's frustrating.
[02:27] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, i have no clue what that is
[02:28] <Chilaquiles> mycosys: no, is definetly the OS
[02:28] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, and it used to open maxed, but then just stopped doin it all of a sudden..
[02:28] <mycosys> i suspect if you boot that machine in doze Chilaquiles you will hear a lot of dings and dongs as it disconnects and reconnects
[02:28] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Yeah - it has a boot menu with "Advanced options", but the only option in that submenu is "back" ;-)
[02:28] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, thunkee would it make a diff if i told u that i was in 10.04?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: its a daemon which watches the desktop. When new windows get made it applys rules
[02:29] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: Do you see a list of kernel parameters that you can edit if you hit F6 or tab?
[02:30] <AlienBox> I booted to the live 10.04 cd on a usb stick, and noticed in .xsession-errors file there is a line of text that concerns me regardy a proxy, i don't think i have a proxy, could someone look at it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569435/
[02:30] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, but why would it all of a sudden just stop opening chromium maxed?
[02:30] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, and why would i need to install another prog to make it open maxed??
[02:30] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, isnt there a switch or a setting that i can change?
[02:30] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Nope - it doesn't seem to have any options during boot. There's an initial menu (with that advanced option that's useless) then after that it either boots to the desktop, or to the installer. Doesn't seem to matter what I press during boot
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: try maximizing it then hold CTRL+SHIFT and click close...
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: man chromium-browser     may help
[02:31] <weside> yo
[02:32] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, wow crtl+shift on close seems to have righted the wrong
[02:32] <myradlife> I'm having trouble with a script that updates my IP for for my webserver. I think the script updates a DNS to give me my new ip since I have dynamic IP. The problem is that the script does not update my IP like it should. Instead whenever my IP changes, I have to re-run the script (I think it's supposed to do that on its own). When I run the script, my IP updates to the DNS and then the domain name redirects to my webserver a
[02:32] <myradlife> s it should. What's going on here? What can I do so that it always updates my IP automatically?
[02:33] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, thank you for you help, my problem is fixed=)
[02:33] <bastidrazor> myradlife: the script is ddclient?  from dyndns?
[02:34] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Well thanks for trying to help - I left the original Windows 7 drive alone so I can just swap it back in. Guessing Dell just don't bother too much with Linux on their laptops ;-)
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: what was the bullet?
[02:34] <weside> Anybody here fans of the Unity interface?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> weside: not me
[02:34] <glitchd> maximizing and holding crtl+shift as i closed it
[02:34] <weside> i know I feel the same :/
[02:34] <roknir> bazhang: i'm sorry, you were right.  it was 3rd party: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/get-random-ubuntu-tips-on-your-desktop-app/
[02:34] <Onryo> I don't trust clouding.
[02:34] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, maximizing and holding crtl+shift as i closed it
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: nice
[02:35] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, indeed sir, thx again
[02:35] <xorwhy> Is there a way to enable TOR system-wide?
[02:36] <Onryo> It is enabled system wide
[02:36] <xorwhy> Oh alright
[02:36] <aladoinsa> can anyone tell me why i can't write to this disk, from fstab: UUID=234e7c21-a19c-4e78-8c48-e79ae0d4d39b /media/100gb    ext4    rw,user          0       1
[02:36] <oneliner> hello, how do i determine which is my current sound configuration usage?
[02:37] <weside> does anyone know if the next version of Ubuntu give the option of regular Gnome or the Unity?.
[02:37] <myradlife> bastidrazor, the script is ipUpdate.pl from dnsexit.com
[02:38] <rww> weside: It does, yes.
[02:38] <Onryo> if you want to proxy everything though TOR just go into System -> Pref. -> Network Proxy Preferences. Then click on Manual proxy config
[02:38] <bastidrazor> myradlife: does it run as a daemon or have a sleep in its .conf ?
[02:38] <weside> Unity seems okay for netbooks i guess
[02:39] <myradlife> bastidrazor, not sure, I thought it's supposed to run as daemon. how do i check?
[02:39] <Guest95790> hola
[02:39] <Guest95790> hello
[02:39] <Guest95790> alguien me lee
[02:40] <bastidrazor> myradlife: dnsexit.com should have documentation about how the script should run.
[02:40] <Onryo> weside you can choose "Classic" or Unity on the Alpha ver of Natty
[02:40] <weside> oh cool
[02:40] <myradlife> bastidrazor, let me send you the link to their instructions, but it's not very helpful. I've done it the way they specify
[02:41] <myradlife> bastidrazor, http://www.dnsexit.com/Direct.sv?cmd=ipClients
[02:42] <weside> anybody fans of other distros besides Ubuntu?.
[02:42] <mycosys> sure
[02:42] <Onryo> OpenBSD
[02:42] <shane4ubuntu> !ot
[02:42] <bastidrazor> myradlife: it tells you where to get better instructions and to choose daemon mode. have you done this?
[02:42] <roknir> kubuntu?  mint?
[02:42] <bazhang> weside, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:42] <weside> wooops
[02:43] <mycosys> SuSE, DSL, RHEL, CentOS bunch o others
[02:43] <Onryo> mint is nice if you want things to just work.
[02:43] <weside> Debian?
[02:43] <mycosys> yeah debian is a great distro, esp for server
[02:43] <Onryo> Debian 6 Squeeze has ZERO blobs in the kernel now! Really interesting and truly free.
[02:44] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:44] <weside> I think for the normal home user Ubuntu is the way to go
[02:45] <weside> it's linux for human beings right?
[02:45] <Onryo> If your not a paranoid geek like me then the best Distro is prolly Ubuntu.
[02:45] <peeps[lappy]> what do people use to stream videos from ubuntu to ps3?
[02:45] <segin> Does Ubuntu provide packages for Win32 cross development?
[02:46] <peeps[lappy]> segin, you could try developing with mono
[02:46] <peeps[lappy]> open source implementation of .NET
[02:46] <patrick_> hi
[02:46] <segin> peeps[lappy]: I meant like mingw32/mingw64
[02:47] <patrick_> i have a issue with my ubuntu 10.10 : when i select any theme, my menu stay GREY why ? http://myuploader.net//files/90/Screenshot333.png
[02:47] <segin> peeps[lappy]: there's plenty of Java-like failures as it is, I don't need to be assisting the proliferation of another
[02:47] <weside> You know what bugs me?. is that netflix won't stream on Linux natively..
[02:48] <peeps[lappy]> segin, what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:48] <segin> weside: That's Microsoft's fault, they won't put the DRM bits in the Moonlight codecs package
[02:48] <myradlife> bastidrazor, i've run that setup script before and chosen Daemon mode
[02:48] <segin> peeps[lappy]: Compile binaries for Windows.
[02:49] <segin> peeps[lappy]: Porting UNIX apps, specifically, I was just looking for ready-made packages, else I'll just compile the mingw64 toolchain by hand
[02:49] <weside> Yep it is said microsoft has to keep us down like that.
[02:49] <weside> said=sad
[02:49] <segin> peeps[lappy]: just compiling is a painfully boring all-day affair, which, coming from the *BSD world, is a familiar experience for me
[02:49] <bazhang> !ot > weside
[02:50] <juabn1> hi
[02:50] <needlez> root@needlez-Satellite-A505:/home/needlez# modprobe -r ar9170 ; modprobe ar9170usb
[02:50] <needlez> FATAL: Module ar9170 not found.
[02:50] <needlez>  anyone able to help??
[02:50] <needlez> I have already put the necessary firmware in lib/firmware
[02:50] <juabn1> firmware to what?}
[02:50] <patrick_> i have a issue with my ubuntu 10.10 : when i select any theme, my menu stay GREY why ? http://myuploader.net//files/90/Screenshot333.png
[02:50] <segin> needlez: Did you check dmesg?
[02:51] <needlez> juabn1: for usb wireless card
[02:51] <needlez> segin: no I havent check dmesg yet
[02:51] <juabn1> model of you card?
[02:51] <segin> needlez: if you ever have driver issues, always check dmesg first
[02:52] <segin> needlez: drivers (usually) put (usually) more descriptive messages in dmesg
[02:52] <segin> needlez: if firmware cannot load, that is where the error will be found.
[02:52] <needlez> dmesg |  grep -i ar9170usb returns nothing
[02:53] <teddyb> guys can someone help me troubleshoot my graphics card error?
[02:53] <myradlife> bastidrazor, if it's set in the daemon mode, shouldn't it run in the background and update my IP each time? Instead I have to manually execute the script ipUpdate.pl each time to update to dnsexit.
[02:53] <needlez> however dmesg | grep -i firmware returns usb 2-1.1: firmware not found
[02:53] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: I've got it working (it's installing atm) - I cleared the partition table again, then created an EXT3 partition instead of EXT4 and the installer found it straight away (that was my last idea ;-) )
[02:53] <segin> needlez: best is: dmesg | tail -n 30
[02:53] <segin> needlez: last 30 errors, do it right after load fails
[02:54] <segin> err last 30 lines
[02:55] <teddyb> i dont like running in failsafe graphics :(
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> teddyb: what video chip??
[02:55] <needlez> segin: this is what Im getting http://pastie.org/1584322
[02:55] <niteshade> yall know if there's any non-lame linux games?
[02:55] <niteshade> FPS
[02:55] <teddyb> nvidia 310 m it has nvidias optimus feature
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: My guess is that the problem was some left over metadata from FakeRAID, or something that looked like it, and that formatting as ext3 just happened to overwrite those particular bits.
[02:56] <teddyb> sorry actionparsnip: nvidia 310 m it has nvidias optimus feature
[02:56] <Smashcat> niteshade - try Google maybe?
[02:56] <niteshade> like more objective-based than arena based
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Smashcat: Unfortunately Ubuntu's installer doesn't give any warning message when it ignores drives that look like they might be part of a RAID array it doesn't understand.
[02:57] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: A right - well it's nice to get it working so I try out some Android dev under Linux instead of Windows ;-)
[02:57] <niteshade> if GTA was ported to linux, it would be like christmas for me
[02:57] <segin> needlez: do: rmmod ar9170 ar9170usb ; modprobe ar1970usb ; dmesg | tail -n 30
[02:57] <bastidrazor> myradlife: yes, daemon mode will run every X seconds
[02:58] <segin> needlez: rtl8192 driver is very noisy and constantly pushes stuff to dmesg
[02:58] <segin> needlez: I have the 8191, uses the same driver, it's annoying
[02:58] <Smashcat> Jordan_U: Weird thing is, the last machine this SSD was in was in another linux server, as a boot drive. Not in a raid.
[02:58] <myradlife> bastidrazor, I had it set up in Daemon mode
[02:58] <myradlife> so it's clearly not working
[02:58] <segin> lol wtf
[02:58] <segin> .mods
[02:58] <segin> !mods
[02:59] <teddyb> noo the floodbot is gone
[02:59] <needlez> segin: i think im gonna recompile compat first and see if that fixes it, real quick
[03:00] <myradlife> bastidrazor, what does work is if I execute ipUpdate.pl , then it almost instantly works. Here's a weird thing: I put "*/30 * * * * ipUpdate.pl" in my crontab and it still doesn't work. Shouldn't it execute that script every 30 mins the way this is set up?
[03:00] <Aikar> can someone please lead me to an idea on how to make flash stop completely deadlocking my kernel :( no logs, tried every ver of flash, tried reinstalling nvidia drivers, chrome, firefox, hardware accel, non accel, cleared .adobe and .macromedia home folders. nothing has helped. flash vid randomly deadlocks entire system and absolutely no log is written to /var/log
[03:00] <Aikar> ubuntu 10.10 x64
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> teddyb: did you install nvidia-current ?
[03:00] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | ActionParsnip
[03:01] <teddyb> yes, it was installed for me
[03:01] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | Aikar
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: try removing all flash and reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[03:01] <Aikar> Jordan_U: doesnt work either
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: ?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Mistab.
[03:01] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: tried that, ive tried like 6 diff flashes
[03:01] <jsw_> Aikar: I had strange things going on with my machine, couldn't figure it out, replaced video card = fixed.  I guess video card was on its last leg and demonstrating that by freezing the box.
[03:01] <Aikar> jsw_: wasnt doing it 2 weeks ago, vid card is rather new
[03:01] <teddyb> actionparsnip: yes and nvidia settings and dkms
[03:01] <Aikar> and only does it on flash
[03:02] <jsw_> I've had 4 nvidia cards die on me in the past ~5 years.  Go figure :/
[03:02] <Aikar> actually wait it did lock up twice after bootup i remember
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: can you use: http://pastie.org  and give the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; echo; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l 
[03:02] <Aikar> but its almost replicable by viewing flash
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> oops
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: uname -a; lsb_release -a; echo; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l
[03:02] <xorwhy> jsw_: power?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: uname -a; lsb_release -a; echo; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[03:03] <segin> What's the "cheat sheet" format for a shell one-liner for adding a PPA repo?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: putty being a pain before
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> segin: sudo add-apt-repositorty address
[03:03] <segin> ActionParsnip: And what's the shorthand for PPA repos?
[03:03] <segin> ActionParsnip: Launchpad PPA
[03:03] <jsw_> xorwhy: power supply, I eventually realized.  PSU started shooting sparks out the back and burned up a mainboard and CPU in addition to the 4th video card, which ... tipped me off to the root cause of the hardware failures.  :)
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> segin: it'll say on the ppa page, there is no single answer
[03:04] <jsw_> kinda scary when sparks are flying out of your computer; it would have made a cool scene in a "hacker movie"
[03:04] <jsw_> Anyway, each time a video card was failing, the computer would lock up more and more; or X would simply crash
[03:04] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1584335   - and i used Flash-Aid to install latest flash
[03:04] <nublo> why dont you linux users just shove all this open source bullshit up your own ass. no one cares about compiling or configuring or any of the bullshit you constantly jack off about. we normal people just care about chatting and sending email to our friends and viewing the www so please shut the fuck up about foxfire or whatever the fuck tangent you're going off on. thanks for reading this. dongs.
[03:04] <jsw_> (or artifacts would appear on the screen)
[03:05] <accel> anyone got soudn to work on the latest gen mac mini on ubuntu?
[03:05] <xorwhy> jsw_: Yeah the sparks would have been more than a slight indication of it being power
[03:05] <segin> ActionParsnip: I know there's a way to figure it out from the repo's web URL, hopefully Ifigure it out, would be such a timesaver
[03:05] <segin> and ty
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: latest flash is in the repo already...
[03:05] <Aikar> like i said ,i tried 6 diff ones
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> segin: veiw a ppa page, the name in bold is the address
[03:05] <bazhang> segin, whats the link
[03:05] <Smashcat> jsw_: My old server failed due to an overheating PSU - it ran in my attic for 4 years straight until the fan became so blocked up with dead spiders etc that it couldnt move any more ;-)
[03:05] <jsw_> Well PSU; I have UPSes.  I am guessing one of those large, imposing capacitors in the PSU shouldn't have made it past Q/A and blew up.
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer flashplugin64-installer; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -y flashplugin64-installer
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: you have old configs left for the packages listed, the command given will clean up then install the 64bit flash
[03:07] <jsw_> Smashcat: I have a ton of equipment that I try to vacuum dust out of every ~6 months or so
[03:07] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: how can you tell that from that output?
[03:07] <shane4ubuntu> ActionParsnip: is that flashplugin64 in the normal repos?  I don't have it in mine.
[03:07] <teddyb> actionparsnip any idea what to do?
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: 'rc' on the left of the package name, installed apps sho 'ii'
[03:08] <Aikar> shane4ubuntu: gotta enable the source (use ubuntu tweak)
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> teddyb: no idea dude
[03:08] <jack_> google chrome comes with flash built in. works great out of the box
[03:08] <shane4ubuntu> Aikar: ahh, ok, I was kind of jumping in mid converstation, thanks
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu: its in a PPA
[03:08] <IdleOne> flashplugin-installer
[03:08] <Smashcat> jsw_: Heh, yeah it seems to get in everywhere - I have my new server up in the attic on a stack of books now, and it seems to be keeping the spiders off of it mostly.
[03:08] <shane4ubuntu> ActionParsnip: ahh, ok, thanks, I just came in mid-conversation
[03:08] <needlez> segin: this is what I got http://pastie.org/1584344
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu: doesn't use nspluginwrapper like flash will if you install flashplugin-nonfree etc
[03:09] <jack_> what are the btrfs utilities called? is it brtfsprogs?
[03:09] <shane4ubuntu> ActionParsnip: well, anything 64 tends to catch my eye, but I have started using Chromium
[03:09] <IdleOne> btrfsutils maybe jack_
[03:09] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: should i have the LinuxHWblah and OverrideGPUValidation flags on in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[03:09] <jack_> w0rd
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu: i use the daily, its been great since lucid :)
[03:09] <bazhang> jack_, btrfs-tools
[03:09] <IdleOne> jack_: btrfs-tools I think
[03:09] <paq7512> what is a recommended program to backup dvds?
[03:09] <IdleOne> yup :)
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> !find btrfs
[03:09] <teddyb> ok thanks actionparsnip, do you think its safe to remove nvidia-current
[03:09] <shane4ubuntu> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip, I may have to check it out.
[03:10] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: don't fill up your disk :]
[03:10] <bazhang> paq7512, ogmrip k9copy
[03:10] <zenn> trying to get ubuntu 10.10 working on a HP DV6
[03:10] <zenn> anyone care to give me some guidance\
[03:10] <ohsix> paq7512: theres dvd95 that'll shrink them too
[03:10] <bazhang> paq7512, the second will install kdelibs
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: with what?
 does k9 work well with gnome?
[03:10] <Jordan_U> zenn: What problem are you having?
[03:11] <bazhang> paq7512, sure but ogmrip is far better imo
[03:11] <zenn> got it installed as a dual boot.
[03:11] <jack_> i run dvdfab in wine to rip dvds :X
[03:11] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: I take it i need to delete /var/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so that Flash-Aid installed, since i now have flashplugin-alternative.so ?
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> zenn: give some details and we may be able to help
[03:11] <zenn> cant get wireless working
[03:11] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: btrfs
[03:11] <bazhang> jack_, then you need to give ogmrip a shot
[03:11] <segin> ActionParsnip: PPA repos can be added by shorthand ppa:<user>/<ppa>, e.g. "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ebower/ebower/ubuntu maverick main" can be specfied as "ppa:ubuntu-ebower/ebower" to add-apt-repository
[03:11] <niles> .wuit dang client
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: yes, you only want ONE plugin or you will get nothing. Why you are using that app is a mystery
[03:11] <jack_> bazhang: is it in the repo? i'll take a look at that
[03:12] <bazhang> jack_, yep you might to use the --install-recommends option as well
[03:12] <zenn> broadcom 43225 wireless card, not showing up
[03:12] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: after having my system crash at least 30 times in past few days, i was trying everything and someone recommended it to keep up to date (it dls from adobe site)
[03:12] <jack_> bazhang: damn. too late
[03:12] <needlez> segin : http://pastie.org/1584344 this is what im getting
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> segin: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-ebower/ebower
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> segin: source: https://www.ebower.com/docs/ubuntu-bluray/#ebower-ppa-install
[03:12] <segin> ActionParsnip: Does add-apt-repository accept multiple addresses in a single go?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> segin: not sure, never tried
[03:12] <segin> ActionParsnip: Yes, I just mentioned that, I was reading the same thing
what version of ubuntu do you run mainly?
[03:13] <jack_> i have a load average of 8. 2 processes in state D. I think i have somethign weird going on with nautilus. i killed 4 of the nautilus processes the other day and gained back the majority of my ram and my load dropped to 1.something
[03:13] <bazhang> paq7512, maverick
[03:13] <jack_> you guys heard of an issue like that?
[03:14] <mycosys> iirc there is a bug like that in QT
[03:14] <mycosys> jack_
[03:14] <jack_> ugh. now im at 10. i have no idea whats causing my runqueue to be so high. my runqueue is low according to vmstat
[03:14] <jack_> in qt you say?
[03:15] <caretrain> ad
[03:15] <caretrain> '
[03:15] <caretrain> Whoops, sorry.
[03:15] <jack_> damn. that sentence didn't make any sense heh
[03:15] <mycosys> yup - was affecting mythtv jack_ - they worked round it but it was creating defunct processes left right and centre
[03:16] <Aikar> ActionParsnip:
[03:16] <Aikar> rc  hal                                  0.5.14-0ubuntu6                                           Hardware Abstraction Layer
[03:16] <Aikar> could that be an issue considering i just did a full hardware swap
[03:16] <Aikar> problems didnt start until after i switched to new hardware
[03:16] <Aikar> moved HDD and video card to new mobo/cpu/ram
[03:16] <Aikar> tested ram already
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: possibly, worth a try I guess
[03:17] <mycosys> if ur searching for it part of what brought it up in myth was a change from udevinfo to uvedadm
[03:17] <n2diy> I can't get Firefox to run, I deleted all the lock and .parent lock files,, purged firefox, and reinstalled, and I'm still told it is already running.. Killall says no process found, WTF?
[03:17] <Aikar> what does the HAL Do for ubuntu, and its dpkg -P hal to clean it up?
[03:17] <ohsix> n2diy: is it running? you could move ~/.mozilla out of the way
[03:17] <era878> Is it possible to setup mythbuntu on an existing ubuntu desktop 10.10 installation
[03:18] <bazhang> era878, sure
[03:18] <bazhang> era878, install mythbuntu-desktop package
[03:18] <era878> bazhang i have dowload the control center, now what?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> era878: theres no difference under the hood, just default app set
[03:18] <bazhang> era878, configure it?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: HAL == hardware abstraction layer
[03:18] <jack_> i figured it out. it was picasa. stupid wine app. :x
[03:19] <n2diy> chsis, what, delete .mozilla?
[03:19] <kitty_> n2diy, you can unlink files but if they're still being accessed the system won't remove them till they're actually freed, try unmounting your /home directory if possible or rebooting
[03:19] <aeon-ltd> n2diy: restart?
[03:19] <jack_> n2diy: what if you do a: `ps -ef | grep firefox`
[03:19] <Aikar> yeah i know, but i was told linux doesnt care about hardware, so whats it provide, and why do i have left over configs if i havent touched it? this install isnt old
[03:19] <era878> im at the part where i choose a remote control and an ir blaster but i dont know which to choose. i have a Hauppauge_HVR-1600
[03:20] <mycosys> best to ask that bit on #mythtv era878
[03:20] <mycosys> but you can change it later
[03:20] <mycosys> you probably dont have an ir blaster
[03:20] <jack_> has anybody gotten around the boxee hulu issue in here? i though ti had it resolved but after a re-install its back and i cant fix it :x
[03:21] <jack_> not that it helps as everything is hulu+ these days
[03:22] <n2diy> kitty, acon-ltd and jack I have done all of those, and no change, grep only reports grep.
[03:24] <n2diy> jack command not foud.
[03:25] <kitty_> n2diy have you tried making a new user or running firefox as a different user?
[03:26] <n2diy> kitty_, no, let me try that.
[03:26] <jack_> n2diy: what happens when you run it from the terminal?
[03:26] <jack_> n2diy: command not found? ps? ps should show output.
[03:26] <n2diy> jack, command not found
[03:26] <jack_> i dont believe you
[03:26] <kitty_> n2diy i don't suggest you do it as habit, but you could always try gksu firefox and seeing what it'll do
[03:27] <jack_> n2diy: by 'it' i mean firefox. run firefox from the terminal. doe sit start? does it error out?
[03:28] <bastidrazor> kitty_: great way to break things. boo
[03:28] <jack_> i doubt he'd *break* anything with firefox :P
[03:29] <Jordan_U> n2diy: Does /usr/bin/firefox exist? If not, what is the output of "dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox"?
[03:30] <kitty_> well if you'd like to help him, be my guest. su is fastest way i know to run stuff as a different user as most people don't run crap as root and root is gonna an account for 99.9% of everone out there
[03:30] <needlez> anyone able to help, when i plug in any wireless adapter it doesn't work at all, even ones that work oob aren't working anymore any ideas. this happened after i patched compat-wireless with frag+ack and maxim-patch
[03:32] <Secret128> how do i boot Ubuntu form the disk to reinstall Ubuntu
[03:32] <glitchd> can someone help me get this dang program to work or to install??please?
[03:32] <Secret128> does anyone know?
[03:32] <Secret128> How to
[03:32] <jack_> Secret128: boot the disk in the drive and reboot
[03:32] <jack_> glitchd: what program?
[03:32] <glitchd> Secret128, boot your computer and go to the bios the set the first boot device to the cdrom
[03:33] <qwerty1> anybody down with some wifi q&a?
[03:33] <kitty_> needlez, does your iwconfig list any adapters when you insert them, if not can you pastebin dmesg output relevant to when you plug in said devices?
[03:33] <Secret128> what button do i  enter to the bois
[03:33] <Secret128> bios
[03:33] <glitchd> jack_, its a playlist.com downloader
[03:33] <jack_> playlist.com downloader? for linux?
[03:33] <glitchd> jack_, it has .py scripts
[03:33] <glitchd> jack_, yes for linux
[03:33] <Jordan_U> !anyone | qwerty1
[03:33] <aeon-ltd> Secret128: that varies from motherboard to motherboard
[03:33] <glitchd> jack_, https://github.com/theangrybaby/PlaylistDownloader-Linux-Version/
[03:34] <jack_> glitchd: can you just execute it?
[03:34] <Secret128> its a imb laptop
[03:34] <needlez> kitty_: iwconfig doesnt show anything other then wlan0, which this would be wlan1
[03:34] <qwerty1> anyone?
[03:34] <needlez> and for dmesg what should I type into terminal??
[03:34] <Secret128> its a ibm laptop
[03:34] <ruan> Secret128: try to find "boot sequence" or something similar
[03:34] <jack_> glitchd: sudo chmod +x python downloadergui.py
[03:34] <jack_> glitchd: sudo ./python downloadergui.py
[03:35] <jack_> whooops
[03:35] <aeon-ltd> Secret128: try all the f keys at boot ? :)
[03:35] <kitty_> needlez, dmesg |tail and you should see some messages about new hardware, if it isn't recognized yet or it says something about waiting for device to settle before scanning, then just dmesg| tail again till you get something that looks like it was a wireless card inserted, if you don't, then your card might not have drivers (perhaps ndis?)
[03:35] <jack_> i dont think you even need to do that. i didnt see it was py. durp
[03:35] <ruan> Secret128: try all the f keys and delete
[03:35] <glitchd> jack_, chmod: cannot access `python': No such file or directory
[03:35] <jack_> glitchd: what happens when you run 'python downloadergui.py'
[03:36] <qwerty1> 10.10 is not seeing my wifi..in term I used cmd..sudo lshw -c network....says its unclaimed and gives a long list of random things
[03:36] <needlez> kitty_: i got this for part of it, this part is strange not sure what is wrong http://pastie.org/1584399
[03:37] <glitchd> jack_, see pm
[03:37] <kitty_> needlez, did you try to re-flash your card?
[03:37] <Aikar> ActionParsnip: still froze, im going to boot into livecd to see if it happens there, and if so i can rule it is the hardware, if not, ill have to reinstall i guess
[03:37] <kitty_> i.e. update its firmware?
[03:37] <Secret128> okay in there
[03:37] <needlez> kitty_: no, how could I do that??
[03:37] <Secret128> now what
[03:38] <Secret128> which option
[03:38] <Aikar> (i run irssi on server, so detaching, ill reattach on live)
[03:38] <agreimann> Hello. I'm trying to restore a disk on another computer with dd, but I don't want the partition to get smaller.
[03:38] <kitty_> if you didn't then i'd say your card is broken or the new drivers you're trying to use doesn't recognize it
[03:38] <agreimann> How do I do this?
[03:38] <agreimann> Anyone have any ideas?
[03:39] <needlez> kitty_: the card works perfectly fine on my other computer
[03:39] <kitty_> agreimann ever use gparted ?
[03:39] <agreimann> Yes. :)
[03:39] <kitty_> thats my suggestion :P
[03:39] <agreimann> Thanks for the suggestion, however...
[03:39] <WeThePeople> how do i delete lubuntu
[03:39] <agreimann> I'm trying to restore a filesystem that Linux cannot properly handle in gparted--hfs+.
[03:40] <ruan> agreimann: which filesystem?
[03:40] <kitty_> agreimann you can always just dd from your backup file to your new partition, then ust gparted to fix whatever errors are gonna be introduced into your file system if the structure didn't perfectly match
[03:40] <agreimann> But... how do I keep the partition from being locked in?
[03:40] <jack_> agreimann: what do you mean you're trying to restore it dd but dont want the partition to get smaller?
[03:40] <Secret128> im in the bios now what
[03:40] <agreimann> When I restored before, a 40 GB disk shrank to 7.3 GB (from an 8 GB disk).
[03:40] <Secret128> how do make it install ubuntu
[03:41] <ruan> Secret128: try to find "boot sequence"
[03:41] <jack_> if you mean, you just want to copy the data and not the parition table, you'll need to figure out wher ethe data starts ont he disk and start dding from there
[03:41] <kitty_> agreimann did you dd /dev/sda or did you actually point it at a partition?
[03:41] <ruan> Secret128: or list the options that you have
[03:41] <glitchd> Secret128, is there a section about the boot order?
[03:41] <kitty_> agriemann cause that sounds like you copied the actual device not the partition
[03:41] <Secret128> no theres startup options
[03:41] <agreimann> Here's what I'm using: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda
[03:41] <n2diy> kitty_, the newuser can use Firefox, and I can't?
[03:41] <agreimann> On another computer, that is.
[03:41] <glitchd> Secret128, also u can install it from inside windows..
[03:41] <Secret128> i mean setup
[03:41] <jack_> agreimann: that will copy the partition table
[03:41] <Secret128> options
[03:42] <agreimann> Correct. :)
[03:42] <agreimann> That's what I'm trying to restore.
[03:42] <glitchd> Secret128, what version of linux are u installing?
[03:42] <jack_> agreimann: well disks dont 'shrink'. partitions can shrink
[03:42] <Secret128> Ubuntu 10.10
[03:42] <agreimann> It's not that it shrinks.
[03:42] <agreimann> When dd finishes, because .dev.sda is 7.3 GB, the other disk ends up being 7.3 GB.
[03:43] <agreimann> I'd like it to be larger--40 GB.
[03:43] <jack_> agreimann: where are you reading that?
[03:43] <kitty_> agreimann try doing your /dev/sda1 or whatever your partition is instead of the whole disk
[03:43] <ruan> for me it was advanced cmos options > boot sequence, but my bios lists everything
[03:43] <agreimann> I hope this makes sense.
[03:43] <kitty_> it makes perfect sense
[03:43] <agreimann> I'm restoring a Mac for someone.
[03:43] <glitchd> Secret128, pm me
[03:44] <jack_> well, kitty_ appears to understand so listen to him. :P heh
[03:44] <agreimann> I have OS X imaged to a flash drive.
[03:44] <Tom_Callahan> Hey, I got a question about the "tar" command. I'm trying to archive a bunch of directories, but I want to archive certain directories instead of it doing all the contents in a directory. For example, if I had directories that had similar terms in their names, how would I use that to archive? Any wildcard options I can use? Thanks in advance for your help!
[03:44] <Guest49015> Hi guys. I'm attempting to get VirtualBox running with windows xp, but the network adapter isn't cooperating. I'm getting "This device cannot start. (Code 10)"
[03:44] <agreimann> I simply want to restore it (including his files) without reinstalling OS X.
[03:44] <Jordan_U> n2diy: What is the output of "which firefox" and "echo $PATH" from your main user (which cannot use firefox)?
[03:44] <kitty_> you're copying the whole device over, not just a partition, if you do a "fdisk -l" it will list your partitions from your source, you'll want to use dd /dev/sda(partition number from fdisk -l) size=(output from fdisk-l for size) count=(again output from fdisk -l)
[03:44] <jack_> Tom_Callahan: there is a way. one sec
[03:44] <ruan> ^^ sudo fdisk -l
[03:44] <agreimann> Thanks, everyone, for the assistance! :)
[03:44] <agreimann> Ideas?
[03:45] <Tom_Callahan> Thanks, jack_
[03:45] <jack_> Tom_Callahan: tar -cvjf /tmp/jsdc_backup_$(date | sed s/" "/"-"/g) /var/www/* --exclude=*/remote/* --exclude=*/RHEL/*
[03:45] <jack_> Tom_Callahan: ^use the exclude flags
[03:45] <teddyb> actionparsnip, you still here by any chance?
[03:45] <kitty_> when you point it at the device /dev/sda the first thing it starts copying is the mbr, partition table, and tada... you just re-partitioned your new 40gb hd to whatever your source disk was
[03:45] <jack_> agreimann: could you not just create a new partition on the disk and copy the files from the usb to the localdisk?
[03:46] <agreimann> Tried that, but yaboot won't boot OS X.
[03:46] <agreimann> It stays stuck on the Apple logo.
[03:46] <agreimann> Thanks for your assistance so far.
[03:46] <kitty_> so you're trying to copy the mbr as well?
[03:46] <n2diy> kitty_, 'which firefox' returns /usr/bin, and it is in the path.
[03:46] <kitty_> just load up fdisk after you do the copy and hit the "X"pert mode
[03:46] <Tom_Callahan> Ahhh I see, so I'd add the directories I don't want to archive in the exclude tags. Also, is there any reason why the "/tmp/jsdc_backup_......... /var/www*" part is in your command? Just curious. Thanks, jack_!
[03:47] <kitty_> and it's gonna have a bunch of crap popup about how your partition table doesn't match the geometry of your disk and would you like to fix it
[03:47] <agreimann> It's an iBook. It uses a different map than MBR.
[03:47] <agreimann> That's what's confusing.
[03:48] <jack_> Tom_Callahan: in my command, the tar file will be created in /tmp/jsdc_backup_<date>. the folder im tarring is /var/www
[03:48] <agreimann> If it were a PC, I'd understand it better.
[03:48] <xrdodrx> is it possible to get the old font rendering back?
[03:48] <xrdodrx> the kind used in pretty much every linux distro
[03:48] <Tom_Callahan> Ahhh I see, thanks, jack_!
[03:48] <kitty_> does linux recognize the individual partitions on the disk when you fdisk -l ?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Simply dd the entire image to the drive you want to "restore" to, then once you're done resize the partition to use the remaining free space.
[03:48] <jack_> agreimann: why are you using dd over cp?
[03:48] <xrdodrx> dejavu sans
[03:48] <jack_> Tom_Callahan: let me know if you have any further questions
[03:48] <Tom_Callahan> Will do, thanks!
[03:49] <ruan> xrdodrx: yes
[03:49] <agreimann> Can cp image disk to disk?
[03:49] <xrdodrx> ruan, how?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> agreimann: GParted can work with Apple partition maps as well as resize hfsplus./
[03:49] <agreimann> It can?
[03:49] <ruan> xrdodrx: System > appearance > fonts
[03:49] <kitty_> yes
[03:49] <pcp19> I have emacs running on ubuntu10.1o, sometimes on emacs the text appears to display on top of other text, resulting in a largely unreadable display anyone know how to fix this?
[03:49] <agreimann> I've been using the shell and hfsprogs, actually...
[03:49] <kitty_> thats how i put ubuntu on my imac
[03:49] <Jordan_U> n2diy: What is the output of "/usr/bin/firefox" run from your main user?
[03:49] <agreimann> I'll check gparted in a second, once the comp boots up...
[03:49] <xrdodrx> ruan, This doesn't bring the font rendering back :\
[03:50] <ruan> xrdodrx: what about the 4 rendering types at the bottom?
[03:50] <jack_> n2diy: isntall google chrome and be done with it!
[03:50] <n2diy> Jordan_U, Firefox is already running or not responding, you need to close it....
[03:50] <xrdodrx> ruan, oh, duh. XD thanks!
[03:50] <agreimann> OK. gparted open.
[03:50] <ruan> xrdodrx: lol, no problem
[03:50] <kitty_> agreimann, also if you need to copy the mbr over, there are plenty of example on how to do that (so you can use yaboot) in the grub or lilo boot manager how to pages
[03:50] <jack_> n2diy: did you try rebooting your system? that should fix it.
[03:51] <Jordan_U> n2diy: Try "cd /tmp/" then "/usr/bin/firefox".
[03:51] <n2diy> jack, I've rebooted a dozen times, purged, removed and reinstalled too.
[03:51] <xrdodrx> ruan, yeah, it's just that after you get used to seeing it for so long everything looks weird in a different font :)
[03:51] <agreimann> kitty_, thank you, but I'm trying to repair a PowerPC. :)
[03:51] <jack_> n2diy: you sould run the following command and pastebin it:  `ps aexo pid,user,cmd`
[03:51] <kitty_> powerpc, imac same difference
[03:51] <ruan> xrdodrx: personally i dont mind the ubuntu font and rendering
[03:51] <agreimann> It's using an OpenFirmware map.
[03:52] <ChogyDan> n2diy: have you tried something like firefox -P?
[03:52] <agreimann> OK... gparted cannot resize the partition.
[03:52] <agreimann> It's locked.
[03:52] <n2diy> Jordan_U, nothing happens, I'm returned to the prompt.
[03:52] <agreimann> Don't know why.
[03:52] <kitty_> is it the partition that you booted from?
[03:52] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Do you have hfsprogs installed? Did you make sure the partition isn't mounted?
[03:52] <kitty_> cause it cant resize partitions that are mounted
[03:53] <pcp19> I have emacs running on ubuntu10.1o, sometimes on emacs the text appears to display on top of other text, resulting in a largely unreadable display anyone know how to fix this?
[03:53] <agreimann> It is unmounted.
[03:53] <Jordan_U> n2diy: Interesting, and "pgrep firefox" shows no output?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> !who | kitty_
[03:53] <agreimann> I've installed hfsprogs before. Gparted still can't work properly.
[03:53] <n2diy> Jordan_U, correct.
[03:54] <agreimann> Can I uncap dd? That's my basic question. :)
[03:54] <agreimann> All I need to do is restore the hard disk.
[03:55] <kitty_> agreimann uncap dd how?
[03:55] <Jordan_U> agreimann: You are confused. dd is not "capped" and nothing needs to be "uncapped".
[03:55] <jack_> n2diy: you sould run the following command and pastebin it:  `ps aexo pid,user,cmd`
[03:56] <jack_> agreimann: if you want to push directly to disk you can use oflag=direct
[03:56] <jack_> if thats what you mean o_O
[03:56] <kitty_> agreimann, as i said before, when you point dd at the actual device not a partition, its going to copy everything to the new destination and if you HAD a partition table with a 40gb entry on it, it will be gone and you will now have an EXACT copy of your source device
[03:56] <oldarney> ... Mouse lag... seriously. mouse lag.
[03:56] <oldarney> I have a new ubuntu installation and I have mouse lag.
[03:56] <kitty_> agreimann, hence why you always end up with a 8gb partition table on a 40gb hd
[03:56] <agreimann> What I mean by "uncap" is that I'd like the 7.3 GB flash drive to restore to the 40 GB HDD without shrinking it down to 7.3 GB when done. I hope I'm making a little more sense. Thank you, kitty_, jack_, and Jordan_U.
[03:57] <oldarney> Processor usage is 2% average.
[03:57] <oldarney> My processor is displaying incorrect speeds in the system monitor though.
[03:57] <NooBoontoo> Hello, Ok, so i got this GENIUS tablet with cordless pen, but is not working in Ubuntu 10.10, I know the tablet is fine beacuse the LED responds to the touch of the pen, but the cursor wont move
[03:57] <kitty_> agreimann, can you pastebin the output for "fdisk -l" ?
[03:57] <jack_> agreimann: i dont think the disk is shrinking. its probably your partition. you sould be able to grow it to fillt he filesystem after the dd
[03:58] <agreimann> jack_, you'd mentioned oflag earlier? What would this flag do in dd?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Just dd "if=/dev/small_flash_drive of=/dev/large_hard_drive" then expand the partition on large_hard_drive using gparted.
[03:58] <jack_> agreimann: direct makes the IO go directly to disk instead of being cached in memory
[03:58] <ChogyDan> agreimann: do you need any of the data on the usb drive atm?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> agreimann: jack_: direct IO is not at all apllicable to this problem.
[03:59] <jack_> agreimann: check the man page for flags
[03:59] <agreimann> ChogyDan: OS X is imaged to the flash drive.
[03:59] <xpx> سلام
[03:59] <n2diy> jack, how can I pastebin it without Firefox?
[03:59] <jack_> n2diy: use chrome
[04:00] <jack_> agreimann: when you say the disk shrinks, are you talking about the partition? if so, cant you just extend the partition after the copy?
[04:00] <kitty_> jack_, n2diy you could always install the nice command line utility PASTEBINIT!
[04:00] <agreimann> jack_, I'd like to, but gparted won't let me.
[04:00] <jack_> kitty_: does that really exist? if so, thats awesome
[04:00] <agreimann> I've went through the process several times trying to fix it. :)
[04:00] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Have you already dd'd the contents of one drive to the other?
[04:00] <jack_> agreimann: try using hte gparted livecd
[04:01] <Dirtyfrench> why would ubuntu show me the wrong content for a samba server (showing me the content of the wrong server)
[04:01] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: you're doing something wrong. :P
[04:01] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: what do your samba logs say?
[04:01] <jack_> do they see incomming connections?
[04:01] <agreimann> jack_, would using the oflag value let the 40 GB disk retain it's space?
[04:01] <kitty_> jack_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569447/
[04:02] <Dirtyfrench> how do i get the samba logs ?
[04:02] <Dirtyfrench> my windows machine show me the proper content
[04:02] <kitty_> agreimann, no it would not, as when you point DD to the DEVICE it will copy the DATA from exactly, starting with the 8gb partition table
[04:02] <jack_> agreimann: it wouldn't. i was trying to figure out what you were talking about when you asked how to uncap dd.
[04:02] <ruan> Dirtyfrench: it could be a typo somewhere
[04:02] <agreimann> Can I modify the starting data that says "8 GB" then, to something larger?
[04:02] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: they're in /var/log
[04:03] <Dirtyfrench> it isnt i just click on hte server in network
[04:03] <kitty_> yes, do me a favor agreimann pastebin the output from fdisk -l
[04:03] <jack_> agreimann: yes. thats what gparted does :P
[04:03] <Dirtyfrench> it show the right server name but the content is wrong
[04:03] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: perhaps its showing the wrong server name but the right content
[04:03] <ChogyDan> agreimann: hrm, well, when I make a startup disk with my pen drive, I end up loosing the space used for some reason.  But I get it back by wiping the drive  : (
[04:03] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: what if you use smbclient? does that do the same thing
[04:04] <agreimann> fdisk -l won't exactly help here, since I'm redoing the existing table from a messed up dual OS X/Ubuntu install anyway.
[04:04] <jack_>  /slap
[04:04] <Jordan_U> agreimann: There is no need to do anything with the "starting" data before dd'ing to the larger drive. You have multiple people telling you the same thing, trust us :)
[04:04] <kitty_> agreimann what command are you using to copy from your flash install?
[04:04] <agreimann> dd if=/dev/sda (the flash drive) of=/dev/hda (the hard disk)
[04:05] <n2diy> jack, kitty, hell, Chrome is working, what do I need Firefox for?
[04:05] <jack_> that will copy everything, including your partition table. you'll have sda1 that will be ~8GB and the rest will be unallocated space
[04:05] <rtdos> how can i find out which desktops i have installed and how to launch them? i have a friend who uses text based login and thinks he installed several different desktops but he is not sure which ones or how to launch them.
[04:05] <jack_> n2diy++
[04:05] <jack_> n2diy: next you'll ask yourself why you didnt' do htis sooner?
[04:05] <jack_> rtdos: what do you mean by 'desktops'?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Have you actually done the dd yet?
[04:06] <jack_> OS installations?
[04:06] <n2diy> jack, never occured to me, thanks.
[04:06] <jack_> n2diy: heh. chrome is sooo much better
[04:06] <kitty_> actually it won't be unallocated space it will be space that isn't even assigned in the partition table as being there, you'll have to load up fdisk /dev/hda and go into expert mode (x) and use it to fix the partition table to use the whole drive
[04:06] <agreimann> Jordan_U, parted works. Can I use it over gparted?
[04:06] <rtdos> jack_ :  gnome, kde, openbox, etc.
[04:06] <ruan> lol, firefox still has the addon advantage
[04:06] <agreimann> Yes--running dd now.
[04:07] <jack_> rtdos: ah gotcha. i think you can check the metapackages. im unsure of the command.
[04:07] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Yes. Since they both use libparted to do the actual work.
[04:07] <jack_> gparted is just the graphical frontend for parted
[04:07] <agreimann> I'm better with the shell than the GUI. :)
[04:07] <jack_> that's terrible. haha
[04:08] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Ok, highlight me (use my nick in a comment) once the dd is finished and you are actually ready to resize the partition on the larger drive.
[04:08] <kitty_> if i was agreimann i'd do a quick copy of your mbr dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda size=1kb count=512, then i'd go back in and fdisk /dev/hda and erase the partition table and start a new one, then i'd go and do the dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/hda1 count=sizeofdisk, but thats just me...
[04:08] <rtdos> jack_ how do i check the metapackages?
[04:08] <jack_> wouldn't it be easier to create the partition on your disk the way you want it and then copy the contents over?
[04:08] <agreimann> OK--should be at least ~30% done by now.
[04:08] <jack_> rtdos: im unsure but i htink there is a ubuntu wiki page on metapackages
[04:08] <GMH> is flash inevitably going to be extremely resource-heavy in ubuntu?
[04:08] <jack_> rtdos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[04:09] <GMH> if so, this just reinforces my idea that this might be a nice place for me to get work done without the distraction of youtube or tvtropes, lol
[04:09] <agreimann> kitty_, when I do that, it breaks Tiger from booting.
[04:09] <rtdos> thanks, jack)
[04:09] <GMH> place as in, my ubuntu computer
[04:09] <jack_> GMH: haha.
[04:10] <agreimann> So I'm stuck using dd as an option.
[04:10] <jack_> GMH: i guess it depends on your system.
[04:10] <GMH> well, my system has little RAM, and relatively less processor speed
[04:10] <agreimann> Oh, btw, running from the Live CD.
[04:10] <kitty_> well then agreimann i have a suggestion, just as i've had to do many times,... re-run the install/setup/configure program for your boot manager after you copy all your crap over, and it should beable to fix itself
[04:10] <GMH> so at first i had gnome and everything was craizly slow
[04:11] <GMH> and i realized that stuff was using up to 90% memory
[04:11] <agreimann> GMH, switch to fluxbox. ;)
[04:11] <GMH> so i got lubuntu and now the limiting factor is my processor
[04:11] <jack_> GMH: how did you check that?
[04:11] <GMH> agreimann: i tried; dunno how to get internet to work; people here helped me set up lubuntu
[04:11] <GMH> jack_: check what?
[04:11] <jack_> GMH: that it was taking up 90% of your memory?
[04:12] <GMH> system monitor
[04:12] <agreimann> GMH, open a virtual shell and type in "apt-get install fluxbox" (no quotes).
[04:12] <Dirtyfrench> what am i supposed to look for in the logs ?
[04:12] <GMH> agreimann: did that already,  did that last night.
[04:12] <clarkfischer_> I just installed the latest (Jaunty?) on my old tower with a nvidia GeForce video card, and I can't get resolution above 800x600, which is unusable!
[04:12] <agreimann> If the Internet doesn't work, have you tried diagnosing the problem?
[04:12] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: incoming requests
[04:12] <clarkfischer_> Is there anything I can do, any kind of drivers I can install to get higher resolution?
[04:12] <ohsix> apt-get install makemynotebookuseless
[04:13] <xangua> clarkfischer_: jaunty is no longer supported
[04:13] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: you will need to check on the smb server
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> xangua: then not jaunty
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> it's whatever the latest is, I literally just downloaded it from ubuntu.com an hour ago
[04:13] <GMH> agreimann: not sure how to diagnose it.  networks ettings or whatever it was called detects it.
[04:13] <jack_> clarkfischer_: install the nvidia drivers
[04:13] <schock> this nvidia process is killing me
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> jack_: 'additional drivers' already installed them for me.
[04:13] <overclucker> ohsix: which repo is that in?
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> It installed an nvidia settings program which only has 800x600 resolutions and below..
[04:14] <ruan> clarkfischer_: did you install "current" drivers?
[04:14] <kitty_> agreimann, http://mac.linux.be/content/yaboot
[04:14] <clarkfischer_> yeah
[04:14] <clarkfischer_> it said 'recommended'
[04:14] <lqgr00ve> i am having problems mounting my ntfs partition. i managed to screw up the boot table so i am now just trying to salvage the data on the drive
[04:14] <jim__> Anyone ever experience an issue with Ubuntu server where network connectivity will drop out randomly until the keyboard is pressed? (as if the machine were hibernating...doesn't appear to be the case though)
[04:15] <ruan> lqgr00ve: sudo fdisk -l
[04:15] <ChogyDan> clarkfischer_: is the monitor properly detected?
[04:15] <clarkfischer_> ChogyDan: Yeah, as far as I can tell.
[04:15] <agreimann> 5.2/7.3 GB copied, everyone. Thanks for your help so far. :)
[04:15] <clarkfischer_> It's actually an HDTV, and there are some cable-conversions going on, but it knows it's manufacturer/model
[04:15] <jack_> clarkfischer_: download them from nvidia's site
[04:16] <jack_> lqgr00ve: what type of problem?
[04:16] <clarkfischer_> jack_: I've done so, but it tells me I'm 'running x server' and I can't figure out how to not be running x-server
[04:16] <agreimann> NMH, can you try running ifconfig?
[04:16] <ChogyDan> jack_: aren't those incompatible with Ubuntu?
[04:16] <jack_> clarkfischer_: you need to switch to runlevel 3
[04:16] <clarkfischer_> stop gdm doesn't help
[04:16] <clarkfischer_> jack_: how might I do that?
[04:16] <jack_> ChogyDan: those what? nvidia drivers? no. i use them on my boxee machine.
[04:16] <jack_> clarkfischer_: eeeeeeeeeeeh in the most recent im unsure. i think there is a forum post about it
[04:16] <lqgr00ve> ruan: ok fdisk shows the drive - now how do i access it?
[04:16] <era878> how do i setup the database in the backend of mythbuntu?
[04:17] <ruan> lqgr00ve: get the drive name; eg. sda1 or sdb1
[04:17] <jack_> lqgr00ve: mount it.  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt (for example)
[04:17] <Roter1337> What is a good chatroom for Internet security?
[04:17] <ChogyDan> jack_: yeah...  that's what I heard
[04:17] <agreimann> 1 GB to go, everyone. :)
[04:17] <jack_> ChogyDan: i use them on my 10.04 machine. they are not incompatible.
[04:18] <ruan> lqgr00ve: the command i use to mount my ntfs drive is: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs
[04:18] <Gnea> agreimann: what happens in 1 GB? :)
[04:18] <jack_> ruan: isnt' the mount command smart enough to figure out the type?
[04:18] <cordor> is there any free ssh tunneling or vpn? ask here because i don't want those with win app download.
[04:18] <jack_> cordor: in ubuntu?
[04:18] <jim__> cordor: PuTTY will do SSH tunnelling on windows fairly easily
[04:18] <agreimann> A command I'm running--dd--finishes copying. I'm keeping a few people posted. :)
[04:18] <ruan> jack_: yeah but i got this command from a 2002 forum lol
[04:18] <GMH> is there a way for me to check my system info in ubuntu?
[04:19] <jim__> as far as VPN, I've had success in the past using mpd as the VPN server and connecting with the default Windows VPN client
[04:19] <jack_> ruan: nice heh
[04:19] <Gnea> awesome
[04:19] <agreimann> GMH, run hardinfo.
[04:19] <jack_> GMH: which system info?
[04:19] <ruan> GMH: which part of the system? cpu, gfx, hdd?
[04:19] <agreimann> For memory stats, run free, and try "cat /proc/cpuinfo" for your cpu.
[04:19] <jack_> memory stats: cat /proc/meminfo
[04:19] <jack_> ^its awesome
[04:20] <WeThePeople> how do i uninstall lubuntu
[04:20] <cordor> nono, i am asking free ssh tunneling or vpn account  or something encrypted browsing. WITHOUT winapp download.
[04:20] <jack_> ruan: is there a gfx monitoring command?
[04:20] <Starminn> WeThePeople: How did you install it?
[04:20] <GMH> was just thinking, in general, like, if there's something akin to how windows can tell me that, say, i'm running on a whatever processor with what speed and how much RAM total
[04:20] <GMH> and some other info
[04:20] <xangua> WeThePeople: format the partition
[04:20] <ruan> jack_: my nvidia X server shows me all of my info
[04:20] <jack_> cordor: on ubuntu? cant you just do ssh -gL <port>:<host>:<port> localhost?
[04:20] <agreimann> GMH: You'll need hardinfo for that.
[04:20] <ruan> note: not a server
[04:20] <Starminn> mGMH: Run in Terminal "uname -a"
[04:20] <jim__> cordor: what OS are you running?
[04:20] <jack_> ruan: where is that? how do you get ot that?
[04:20] <WeThePeople> xangua,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <jim__> on Ubuntu you can just do what Jack said
[04:21] <agreimann> If you want basic, comprehensive info for individual hardware, run separate commands.
[04:21] <ruan> jack_: it was installed with my drivers to System>administration>nvidia x server
[04:21] <cordor> jack_, jim_ : looking for an account. not software.
[04:21] <jack_> ruan: ah nice.
[04:21] <overclucker> cordor: do you have a ssh server you can access?
[04:21] <agreimann> Data copied successfully, everyone.
[04:21] <cordor> overclucker: no.
[04:21] <jack_> cordor: an account?
[04:21] <Starminn> GMH: Run in Terminal "uname -a" (typo'd your name the first time) -- if you want a GUI go to System->Administration->System Monitor
[04:21] <agreimann> Restarting into OS X.
[04:21] <lqgr00ve> ruan: no dice. no ntfs signature
[04:21] <jim__> cordor, jack__ : I think he's looking for an SSH-tunnel-service provider
[04:21] <jack_> GMH: also, top and ps wills how nice output
[04:21] <jack_> lqgr00ve: this is a crashed harddisk?
[04:22] <agreimann> Depending on what I see this time, I might need the Live CD. :)
[04:22] <jim__> like how anonymizer provides a free proxy server (if that still exists)
[04:22] <jack_> if mount cant mount it, it means you have a damaged superblock. you'll need to run a fsck on it.
[04:22] <WeThePeople> Starminn, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <lqgr00ve> jack_ it isn't crashed but i undoubtedly screwed it up during my past linux install
[04:22] <g0r33k> Hello everyone, I had a quick question please. I was thinking of setting up ssh on my home ubuntu machine so I can access it from anywhere. How secure is this connection?
[04:22] <cordor> jim_: yes. or i remember there was a linux app that do p2p vpn thing.
[04:22] <ahaziah77> hello
[04:22] <Starminn> WeThePeople: So you're not trying to uninstall Ubuntu, you're just trying to uninstall the Lubuntu desktop.
[04:22] <jrib> g0r33k: very secure...
[04:22] <jack_> g0r33k: ssh is encrypted so it shoudl be secure, but its vunerable to like.. brute force attacks
[04:23] <ahaziah77> newbie here
[04:23] <WeThePeople> Starminn, yes
[04:23] <jack_> ahaziah77: hi newbie
[04:23] <ahaziah77> needs some assistance
[04:23] <jack_> ahaziah77: sounds fun
[04:23] <jrib> ahaziah77: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[04:23] <g0r33k> jack_: in other words - dont pick an easy password. Right?
[04:23] <lqgr00ve> ruan: worst case scenerio - how would i go about fixing it?
[04:23] <jack_> g0r33k: sure.
[04:23] <jack_> g0r33k: and you can setup rules to lock people out after 3 times and stuff
[04:23] <ahaziah77> lol....ok, such a newb, dont know how
[04:23] <ruan> lqgr00ve: as he said, do a  fsck on the drive
[04:23] <g0r33k> I see. Thankyou :)
[04:23] <overclucker> cordor: have you played with yet?
[04:23] <jack_> if you can do that. you'll be fine. i have an open ssh server and i dont have any problems
[04:23] <jack_> ahaziah77: whats up?
[04:24] <jim__> anyone ever have cause to turn acpi=off in their grub conf? I'm assuming if I do that, I won't be able to reboot remotely?
[04:24] <overclucker> cordor: meant to say have you played with tor yet?
[04:24] <jrib> !ssh | g0r33k
[04:24] <ahaziah77> well for one, i came up with more questions just getting to this irc chat, like how to know where i am going and what chat or channel im on
[04:24] <jack_> jim__: yes. im not sure what type of reboot, but sometimes things issue an acpi reboot which, if the s ystem is frozen for exmaple, woudl do nothing.
[04:25] <kitty_> woohoo, swapoff is fun
[04:25] <cordor> overclucker: it was development stage, and i don't remeber the name now. i need something that secure kinda like open wifi connection.
[04:25] <jack_> kitty_: ya it is!
[04:25] <jim__> jack_: I may just have to try it. Have this bizarre issue where my machine will stop responding to network requests until I hit a key on the keyboard
[04:25] <ahaziah77> but the main reason i was seeking help was to move files, when i try to move a file its telling me that the directory is not empty
[04:25] <ahaziah77> what does that mean
[04:25] <ahaziah77> ?
[04:25] <agreimann> jack_, kitty_, in OS X. It did it. However, when opening Disk Utility, it shows exactly what I thought.
[04:25] <jack_> jim__: strangeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
[04:25] <jim__> seems to happen randomly, the only thing I can think of is that ACPI is telling it to standby for some reason
[04:25] <kitty_> still have a 8gb partition?
[04:25] <agreimann> A tiny partition where OS X is, and a glob of free space.
[04:25] <g0r33k> Also, this may be a silly question but, am i able to point my domain name at my static ip address and then use that instead of the ip to ssh to my home machine?
[04:26] <jack_> jim__: go ahead and disable it and see if it makes a difference. also, i think there is an acpid that runs. i know there is in fedora. not sure about ubuntu
[04:26] <agreimann> Actually, 7.33 GB approximately.
[04:26] <jrib> g0r33k: sure
[04:26] <jack_> g0r33k: yes.
[04:26] <kitty_> can you boot your flash drive on that computer still?
[04:26] <agreimann> And 29.81 GB wasted.
[04:26] <g0r33k> Thanks jack_ & jrib
[04:26] <jack_> g0r33k: my server is www.jack-server.com. try sshing to it.
[04:26] <agreimann> kitty_, flash drives aren't supported on this model.
[04:26] <occamsrzr> does anyone know of a multi-user playlist queueing plugin for any musicplayer/jukebox?
[04:26] <kitty_> cause if you can, then you should be able to load gparted or parted or mac-fdisk and fix it
[04:26] <overclucker> cordor: I either use Tor, ir ssh tunneling when I use public wifi. with ssh, I tunnel to my home ssh server
[04:26] <jim__> jack__: any other ideas come to mind on that issue? The hardware is old-ish but high quality (tyan motherboard) and nothing in the logs suggests hardware problems
[04:26] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Now open up GParted and resize the partition.
[04:26] <jim__> though I may replace the nic just to see if that does anything
[04:26] <jrib> ahaziah77: what exactly are you doing and how?
[04:27] <jack_> jim__: just no network activity until you hit a key? is that just while sitting on the desktop? maybe there is somekind of power-saving thing occuring
[04:27] <agreimann> Jordan_U: I'm rebooting into Linux now.
[04:27] <agreimann> From a Live CD, that is.
[04:27] <Starminn> WeThePeople: Try just doing this but replacing it for Lubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95881
[04:27] <ahaziah77> just downloading some skins for vlc, been a life long windows user, installed ubuntu this past week so whole new world for me, but i was trying to get experience with the terminal..........
[04:27] <jim__> jack_: it's actually a fresh install of server edition - no gui installed. I thought it was freezing up because my SSH session (even from the local network) would freeze and then eventually disconnect
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> Ok, so I was following some instructions about building some drivers for a Tablet with ./configure --with-xorg-module-dir=/usr/lib/xorg/modules
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> make && sudo make install Wich worked without any errors, but now, when i try to locate the driver like this, it gives me this output osmodivs@Djiin:~/xorg-input-wizardpen-0.8.0$ ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wizardpen_drv.*
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wizardpen_drv.*: No such file or directory
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> . So did I did something wrong?
[04:27] <FloodBot1> NooBoontoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <jack_> jim__: if you ping it from another client does it stop responding to icmp?
[04:28] <g0r33k> Thanks jack_, I see what you mean. Btw, what is the encryption key message i got?
[04:28] <jim__> but I found that if I run downstairs and hit a key fast enough, the SSH connection comes back
[04:28] <kitty_> interestingly enough, if you make a boot cd agreimann, that has your linux kernel on it and the options to point it to your flash drive as root (use uuid if you have to) then it will work just fine, you'll have to boot the cdrom to mount your flash as root device
[04:28] <jrib> ahaziah77: tell us what you are executing and show us the full output (use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[04:28] <GMH> agreimann: thanks, hardinfo is what i wanted
[04:28] <jim__> jack_: yep, stops responding to pings as well
[04:28] <talaskina> ok. this is for anyone who has much experience with raid5 arrays. i have 3 newish disks (2 new, 1 used) that i am using for a raid5 array, i built the array, but it says degraded, recovering. is that normal or should i be concerned?
[04:28] <cordor> overclucker: i don't have the ssh server part. i need either a free shell account which allow ssh tunneling, or free vpn account. or some p2p app that do the job.
[04:28] <Starminn> WeThePeople: The apps you'll have to uninstall by yourself, but the desktop wshould be taken care of by just the opposite of installing it -- sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop (theoretically)
[04:28] <jack_> g0r33k: its asking if you want to accept it as a known ssh server. that way if somebody tries to fake you out it'll notify you that hte key is different
[04:28] <agreimann> No problem, GMH. :)
[04:28] <kitty_> then you shouldn't have any problem with resizing partitions cause you shouldn't have any of them mounted on the destination drive.
[04:28] <kitty_> anyways, i'm sleepy
[04:28] <WeThePeople> Starminn, ok i will try
[04:28] <dbb> hello- I have ubuntu 10.10, and an application I run just posted a nice notification of an upgrade. I could swear it had a link on it.. you know, pops up in the lower right hand corner.. where do I find that? it only lasted a moment
[04:28] <WeThePeople> thx
[04:29] <ahaziah77> i have the skins in downloads dir, but need to move them to .local/share/vlc/skins2
[04:29] <jack_> dbb: which application?
[04:29] <ruan> dbb: is it a driver upgrade?
[04:29] <jrib> ahaziah77: tell us what you are executing and show us the full output (use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[04:29] <ruan> dbb: oh nvm
[04:29] <jrib> ahaziah77: I am asking you to literally copy and paste what is in your terminal
[04:29] <dbb> jack ruan its komodo
[04:29] <ahaziah77> k
[04:29] <jrib> !who | ahaziah77
[04:29] <ruan> dbb: open up komodo and upgrade manually?
[04:29] <g0r33k> jack_: Could you please explain what you mean by fake me out?
[04:30] <dbb> ruan you dont know
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77: you cannot move directories without the recursive flag
[04:30] <lqgr00ve> ruan: it appears that i've managed to format the drive - is there any chance of data recovery still?
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77: mv -R /folder /new/folder
[04:30] <agreimann> Jordan_U, getting to the desktop.
[04:30] <lqgr00ve> ruan: fdisk is showing linux partition types
[04:30] <myradlife> bastidrazor, if it's set in the daemon mode, shouldn't it run in the background and update my IP each time? Instead I have to manually execute the script ipUpdate.pl each time to update to dnsexit.
[04:30] <ahaziah77> aaron@aaron-laptop:~$ mv /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds /home/aaron/Pictures
[04:30] <ahaziah77> mv: cannot move `/home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds' to `/home/aaron/Pictures/Backgrounds': Directory not empty
[04:30] <agreimann> Apologize about the delay.
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77: you need to use the recurive flag
[04:30] <jack_> -R
[04:30] <jack_> i think
[04:30] <myradlife> bastidrazor, I'm sorry, did you post a reply to that msg?
[04:30] <agreimann> OK.
[04:30] <cordor> f force
[04:30] <ruan> lqgr00ve: im not sure
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77:  mv -R /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds /home/aaron/Pictures
 mv: cannot move `/home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds' to `/home/aaron/Pictures/Background
[04:30] <agreimann> Upon opening gparted, I get a weird result...
[04:30] <jack_> whoops
[04:30] <jack_> double line. bad
[04:31] <FloodBot1> jack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <Lint> ahaziah77, you cannot overwrite folders
[04:31] <dbb> ok - I quick google says the notification is gone after it appears.. it was so fast.. bummer
[04:31] <agreimann> It actually will either quit, or say that the disk is "unallocated".
[04:31] <Lint> actually you can in MacOSX, which gives ALOT lulz
[04:31] <jack_> agreimann: the entire disk?
[04:31] <ahaziah77> jack_, sorry, shoulda read into that more, forgot i had a backgrounds already in there
[04:31] <lqgr00ve> does anyone know any data recovery utilities that might be handy?
[04:31] <agreimann> jack_: Yep.
[04:32] <Lint> agreimann, are you sure it contain(ed) partitions?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> agreimann: What is the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[04:32] <jack_> lqgr00ve: if its ntfs there are probalby a few for windows.
[04:32] <ahaziah77> jack_, i see now
[04:32] <jrib> ahaziah77: first, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com instead of pasting multiple lines in the channel in the future.  Secondly, you already have a non-empty Backgrounds folder in /home/aaron/Pictures.  You should instead copy the files inside /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds (by using: /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds/*) to /home/aaron/Pictures/Backgrounds
[04:32] <agreimann> But... oddly enough, parted lists out 10 partitions.
[04:32] <jack_> ahaziah77: yes. put the -R flag in there. it will recursively copy
[04:32] <agreimann> Jordan_U, I was ahead of you on that. :)
[04:32] <lqgr00ve> jack_ ok thank you.
[04:32] <lqgr00ve> ruan: thank you.
[04:32] <jrib> jack_, ahaziah77: mv does not have -R switch
[04:33] <jack_> lqgr00ve: what h
[04:33] <jack_> jrib: really? hmmm
[04:33] <overclucker> ahaziah77: how about: mv /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds/* /home/aaron/Pictures/Backgrounds
[04:33] <agreimann> Thanks so far for keeping with the "disk partitions" thing. It's helping a lot. :)
[04:33] <agreimann> Ideas, anyone?
[04:33] <overclucker> jack_: cp and rm, but not mv
[04:33] <ahaziah77> ok, so what is that http://paste deal
[04:34] <agreimann> I'll try using parted to make a new partition. Again, strange why gparted doesn't like this comp...
[04:34] <jack_> wow. how strange. plus i just checked on my machine and i was able to move a non-empty directory
[04:34] <jrib> ahaziah77: http://paste.ubuntu.com , you use it to paste lines you want to show us (give us the url when you are done).  That way you don't flood the channel
[04:34] <overclucker> ahaziah77: instead of dumnping here, you can dump somewhere else and provide us a link
[04:34] <ruan> !paste
[04:34] <ahaziah77> oh, ok
[04:34] <ahaziah77> got ya
[04:35] <agreimann> jack_, parted did it!
[04:35] <ahaziah77> jack_, cool, ok, i got that down
[04:35] <jack_> hooray!
[04:35] <agreimann> I have a ext2 partition between 8 GB and 40 GB.
[04:35] <jrib> jack_: do this: mkdir -p a/b b; touch a/b/c b/d; mv b a
[04:36] <nikhil_> is ubuntu and kubuntu power management the same?
[04:36] <agreimann> Jordan_U, can I merge the two partitions as one? If I format as hfs+, that is?
[04:37] <jack_> jrib: nice. i wonder why that works that way.
[04:37] <Arney> Ubuntu is killing about 300mhz out of my cpu
[04:37] <manca_> can I ask sth.?
[04:37] <madsailor> I'd like to mount some cifs network shares in fstab, but they are on a WPA2 wireless network, so the system hangs on boot when trying to mount them since it doesn't have a network connection yet.  How can I fix this?
[04:37] <ruan> !ask
[04:37] <agreimann> Arney, check your power management settings.
[04:37] <ruan> oops
[04:37] <bazhang> manca_, related to ubuntu, sure
[04:38] <Arney> I did "scaling_available_frequencies" it says 1300000... when my processor is 1666000
[04:38] <agreimann> Yes.
[04:38] <Arney> the max one that is.
[04:38] <Arney> How do I do that?
[04:38] <agreimann> The G4 processor is *much* weirder, trust me.
[04:38] <agreimann> It's not exactly that Ubuntu is eating it up.
[04:38] <agreimann> It's that your cpu is scaled down to save power.
[04:39] <manca_> i have msi wind u90, ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 ... and my wirwlwss driver is not working properly ...
[04:39] <agreimann> Try plugging your PC in, shutting down, then rebooting.
[04:39] <mycosys> :O g4 is art compared to x86
[04:39] <ahaziah77> jack_, OK, so can you tell me what is wrong with this
[04:39] <manca_> what can i do?
[04:39] <ahaziah77> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569455/
[04:39] <agreimann> Your full speed should come back.
[04:39] <jack_> madsailor: try adding _netdev to the options.
[04:39] <manca_> wireless*
[04:39] <jack_> ahaziah77: you need to mv the files within the directory. or you could do a recursive copy and then just remove the folder when its done. :P
[04:39] <bazhang> manca_, what chipset
[04:39] <manca_> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller ... that?
[04:40] <mycosys> ocrud
[04:40] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Why are you trying to "merge" filesystems? Why not just resize the partition/filesystem?
[04:40] <bazhang> manca_, does it show in ifconfig
[04:40] <agreimann> Jordan_U: Can't. I'm in OS X now to see what Disk Utility will do.
[04:40] <Arney> the problem is that its saying that the maximum speed is 300mghz lower then the real maximum
[04:40] <ahaziah77> jack_, oops, sorry gave u the wrong link, hang on
[04:41] <madsailor> jack_, thanks.
[04:41] <jrib> jack_: you should really think of mv as renaming
[04:41] <Jordan_U> agreimann: You never pastebin'd the output of "sudo parted -l".
[04:41] <jack_> jrib: i do, but im also lazy
[04:42] <ahaziah77> jack_, k, try this one, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569458/
[04:42] <Interdic1or> hey wats the default program to scan documents in ubuntu
[04:42] <bazhang> Interdic1or, simplescan?
[04:42] <ruan> Interdic1or, simplescan
[04:42] <manca_> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:21:85:7a:35:39
[04:42] <manca_>           inet addr:192.168.1.104  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[04:42] <manca_>           inet6 addr: fe80::221:85ff:fe7a:3539/64 Scope:Link
[04:42] <manca_>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:42] <FloodBot1> manca_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <manca_>           RX packets:9175 errors:30 dropped:13113 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:42] <manca_>           TX packets:10781 errors:511 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:42] <ruan> !paste
[04:42] <Interdic1or> alright thanks ruan
[04:43] <overclucker> Arney: can you manually change it with cpufreq-selector -f 1666000 ?
[04:43] <Arney> My pc is plugged in, shut and restarted... its still like that
[04:44] <jack_> ahaziah77: it says the file does not exist
[04:44] <Arney> overclucker: let me try
[04:44] <doug9> upgrade problem 9.10 to 10.04 video
[04:44] <ChogyDan1> Arney: you can add the frequency monitor to your panel
[04:45] <ruan> its better to do a clean install than to upgrade
[04:45] <bazhang> ruan, not so
[04:45] <ahaziah77> jack_,  ok, so what about this, this means that they are there doesnt it?
[04:45] <ahaziah77> jack_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569459/
[04:45] <Arney> ChogyDan1: Whats the diff between that and the system monitor?
[04:46] <xujianjun> 怎么聊天啊
[04:46] <bazhang> !cn | xujianjun
[04:46] <ChogyDan1> Arney: well, sys monitor is for work load, and you want the frequency, right?
[04:46] <a123456789> well
[04:46] <ChogyDan1> Arney: or maybe frequnecy is in monitor?
[04:46] <jack_> ahaziah77: /.local/share/vlc/skins2 is not hte same as ~/.local/share/vlc/skins2
[04:46] <Arney> ChogyDan1: it is, in the first tab
[04:46] <agreimann> OK--trying Linux out.
[04:47] <NooBoontoo> Just a question: Is it safe to write something in the /lib/udev/rule_generator.functions file? they say I need to add a  file  /69-xserver-xorg-input-aiptek.rules
[04:47] <ChogyDan1> Arney: not for me
[04:47] <ahaziah77> jack_, oh cool, missed the ~, lemme try that
[04:47] <Arney> i have 10.10
[04:47] <agreimann> OS X obviously can't get things right.
[04:47] <a123456789> system need vga drivers .but i donot get ,how to get,who can tell me ?
[04:47] <NooBoontoo> AND: Download xorg.conf to your home folder and copy the file to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but i am not sure about messing with the Xorg files
[04:47] <agreimann> a123456789: Try using jockey-gtk.
[04:48] <doug9> upgrade problem lost video sigNal 9.10 to 10.04
[04:48] <a123456789> ok ,i try ,thank
[04:48] <myradlife> How do I execute the following command, "/etc/init.d/ipUpdate start "  , in a cron job? (what is a line if I want to execute it every hour?)
[04:49] <jon8> myradlife
[04:49] <jon8> er
[04:49] <raido> myradlife: you dont want to do that from init.d, stuff in init.d is run at startup already
[04:49] <jon8> myradlife: @hourly /etc/init.d/ipUpdate start
[04:49] <jon8> would run it every hour
[04:49] <jon8> but read what raido said
[04:50] <ohsix> most providers would not like people contacting them on the hour ... :D
[04:50] <myradlife> raido, I'm not sure what you mean by that. init.d is run at startup already?
[04:50] <ohsix> theres a place you can run it from only when your address changes
[04:51] <jon8> myradlife, if your system is setup properly, when you boot up your machine (or server), everything that is inside of /etc/init.d/ will run if properly configured.
[04:51] <Arney> fire fox was using 200% of the cpu... wtf
[04:51] <ruan> lol 200%
[04:51] <raido> myradlife: anything in init.d is executed upon system start. You likely just need to read the instruction on ipUpdate and configure it to do what you want, i.e. update hourly
[04:52] <Arney> prolly a  small system monitor bug.
[04:52] <jon8> myradlife, here is a nice web based gui page i (just) found, http://www.corntab.com/pages/crontab-gui that seems like it will help you create proper crontab entries
[04:52] <Arney> lol, again, now with empathy. 200%
[04:52] <ChogyDan1> Arney: it means it was maxing out both cores on a dual core
[04:52] <Arney> interesting way to measure percentages.
[04:52] <myradlife> raido, jon8 , i'll try those, thanks
[04:52] <xeer> I have a strange issue, an executable is not accepting a chmod .. http://pastebin.com/LQGpQf3e
[04:52] <jon8> myradlife you're welcome.
[04:53] <ruan> that'd be quite funny on a supercomputer.... <program> is using 10000000% of the cpu
[04:53] <doug9> upgrade problem lost video 9.04 to 10.04
[04:53] <jon8> Arney depending on what software is being used, it could be glitched and not correctly seeing multiple core'd cpus, thus more than 100%
[04:53] <ChogyDan1> doug9: can you give more details?
[04:53] <doug9> 9.10
[04:53] <manca_> i have msi wind u90, ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 ... and my wireless driver is not working properly ... chipset ralink
[04:54] <jon8> xeer hmm.. pastebin.com is slow to load. ill check out your paste when it comes up.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"/
[04:54] <era878> does anybody have experience setting up mythtv with dish network
[04:54] <don> hello
[04:54] <jon8> xeer can you paste your problem onto something like pastee.org please
[04:54] <agreimann> Jordan_U: I fixed it, actually. :)
[04:54] <agreimann> In Linux.
[04:54] <agreimann> Or at least am going to.
[04:54] <jon8> don, hello fellow michigander :)
[04:55] <agreimann> Thanks, jack_ and Jordan_U. :)
[04:55] <agreimann> Logging out.
[04:55] <jack_> :D
[04:55] <jon8> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now, sorry...
[04:55] <jon8> But we are working on it!
[04:55] <jon8> lol
[04:55] <Jordan_U> agreimann: You're welcome.
[04:55] <Guest47502> i need some help
[04:55] <jon8> Guest47502, whats the problem
[04:55] <doug9> HP s7727c, AMD 64, Nvidia worked with 9.10 upgraded to 10.04.  MoNitor reports No sigNal
[04:55] <jon8> xeer can you use something other than pastebin.com to share please. www.pastee.org is available.
[04:55] <Starminn> jon8: Have people try http://pastie.org then for now?
[04:56] <franco> hi
[04:56] <Ritlee> what's the chances of two drives, quite probably from the same batch, failing according to the logs... at the same exact time? yes i know not directly ubuntu related
[04:56] <jon8> Starminn alternatives have already been recommended.
[04:56] <franco> i'm from santiago of chilr
[04:56] <franco> chile
[04:57] <jon8> Ritlee chances could be great if there the drives were manufactures closely together (time wise) and there was a production problem that went unnoticed. contact the manufacture.
[04:57] <meltphace> Ritlee: much higher than two drives from different batches failing at the same time
[04:57] <raido> Ritlee: I bet it happens to Google hourly.
[04:57] <Skyline0964256> hey
[04:57] <mycosys> !ask
[04:57] <jon8> raido i bet it doesnt. google most likely buys very high end enterprise drives
[04:57] <jon8> Skyline0964256 hi
[04:57] <Skyline0964256> i need some help
[04:58] <jon8> Skyline0964256
[04:58] <meltphace> :
[04:58] <jon8> just ask your question already
[04:58] <jon8> !ask
[04:58] <meltphace> :|
[04:58] <Skyline0964256> lo
[04:58] <doug9> I did the process of 9.10 theN upgradiNg to 10.04 two eNtire cycles with the same results
[04:58] <Ritlee> jon8, like within 2 minutes?
[04:58] <Skyline0964256> i installed VLC and some codecs and its still not playing the dvd
[04:58] <raido> jon8: they dont, surprisingly, they use the same stuff we do
[04:58] <mycosys> !ask >Skyline0964256
[04:58] <jon8> Ritlee seems extremely unlikely
[04:58] <ruan> lol
[04:58] <meltphace> Ritlee: it's not impossible :|
[04:58] <raido> jon8: theres alot online about how many drives they fail every day
[04:58] <jon8> raido you use enterprise level SAS 15k rpm drives at home?
[04:59] <mycosys> Skyline0964256 add the medibuntu repositories
[04:59] <mycosys> !medibuntu
[04:59] <Skyline0964256> how?
[04:59] <mycosys> !medibuntu > Skyline0964256
[04:59] <raido> jon8: they use sata/pata
[04:59] <jon8> raido http://storagemojo.com/2007/02/19/googles-disk-failure-experience/
[05:00] <jack_> how long do you think it'd take to compile gnome from source?
[05:00] <jon8> raido i'm just talking out of my ass. I dont know anything about what google uses or their harddrive failure rate.
[05:00] <ahaziah77> jack_,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/569467/
[05:01] <raido> jon8: I see that
[05:01] <jon8> raido http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/18/massive-google-hard-drive-survey-turns-up-very-interesting-thing/
[05:01] <jon8> raido sorry. i didnt mean to come off sounding like i knew what i was talking about, my apologizes.
[05:01] <jack_> ahaziah77: mv /home/aaron/Downloads/redcoast/vlt ~/.local/share/vlc/skins2 <this command is worng. the file is redcoast.vlt not redcoast/vlt
[05:02] <jack_> ahaziah77: if you press [tab] it will autocomplete filenames for you
[05:02] <ahaziah77> sorry, ok, looked at the past, i typed it wring there but i have tried .vlt and it does the same
[05:02] <ahaziah77> wrong*
[05:02] <jack_> ahaziah77: if it exists, it souldn't. you probably have another typo
[05:02] <ahaziah77> k
[05:03] <ahaziah77> ill make sure it is all right
[05:03] <saby> Hi, i cannot put my computer to sleep or suspend
[05:03] <threenutz> Does anyone know how to disable your IP address from showing up in your username?
[05:03] <Ritlee> jon8, thanks for that link quite interesting read
[05:03] <saby> i dont get the options and when i close the lid of my laptop it says failed to suspend
[05:03] <jon8> Ritlee no problem
[05:03] <doug9> upgrade issue 9.10 to 10.04 No video signal
[05:03] <juk> ahaziah77: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fileman.html
[05:03] <jon8> threenutz if you're talking about your ip showing up when you come onto irc you would have to get something called an IRC bouncer to hide your ip on IRC.
[05:04] <jstar5566> I'm a moderately competent ubuntu user. I use emacs, orgmode, xmonad & screen every day. I'm wondering if there's anything else that powerusers use that could help my productivity. Any ideas?
[05:04] <ahaziah77> jack_, thanks
[05:04] <jack_> ahaziah77: :D
[05:04] <mIKEjONES> I just git clone'd ubuntu's maverick kerne.ubuntu.com repository, where is the kernel config that ubuntu uses?
[05:05] <madsailor> jack_, adding _netdev to the options in fstab didn't work. I really just want to symlink to the shares, but this isn't possible without mounting locally.  Any other ideas?
[05:05] <threenutz> jon8 thanks. I saw something about it but it warned of a possible buffer overflow. Im using xChat and thought there might be a configuration setting I was missing.
[05:05] <jack_> madsailor: take it out of your fstab and make a script that'll do it for you
[05:05] <jack_> threenutz: no.
[05:05] <caretrain> ls
[05:05] <mycosys>  jstar5566 screen, winswitch are godsends
[05:05] <Jordan_U> threenutz: Join #freenode and ask about getting a "cloak".
[05:06] <doug9> upgrade problem No video sigNal after upgrade 9.10 to 10.04
[05:06] <jack_> no video signal? like... on your monitor?
[05:06] <nertil> like no driver
[05:06] <doug9> yes
[05:06] <nertil> :))
[05:06] <jack_> doug9: are you using an nvidia card?
[05:06] <jon8> threenutz yes, if you're spending a lot of time on this IRC Network, you can join #frenode and ask for a VHost to mask your IP address while being connected to this network.
[05:06] <threenutz> Jordan_U thanks, i will do that.
[05:06] <doug9> yes
[05:07] <jack_> doug9: try disabling the nouveau driver in the kernel options
[05:07] <jack_> or uninstalling it
[05:07] <jon8> threenutz they will make it look like this: @unaffiliated/jon8 .. as you can see if you do /whois jon8
[05:07] <Jordan_U> threenutz: You're welcome.
[05:07] <jon8> Jordan_U good call on that, i forgot i've done that some months ago.
[05:07] <threenutz> Thanks guys. Very much appreciated.
[05:07] <jstar5566> mycosys: amazing, winswitch looks wicked. I know there's more out there that I don't know about ... keep em coming!
[05:07] <jon8> threenutz Oh, and also, if you want them to mask your ip/hostname while being on this network
[05:07] <jon8> threenutz you'll need to register your nickname with nickserv
[05:08] <saby> Hello, I do not get the option to suspend or sleep or hibernate, when i close the lid of my laptop i get Suspend Failed message
[05:08] <doug9> I'm s.o.l. theN cause I oNly kNow GUI
[05:08] <madsailor> jack_, mounting has to be done as sudo...how can I safely setup a script to run with sudo priveledges, to be run by users without sudo
[05:09] <jon8> doug9, is there a reason why you capitalize every N? :)
[05:09] <ruan> lol
[05:09] <jack_> madsailor: you could maybe allow moun tto be used by non-root users.
[05:09] <jack_> madsailor: or maybe there is a timeout option you can set in fstab. im unsure though
[05:09] <threenutz> jon8: Kk, again, very much appreciated. I looked online for a while last night. You saved me a lot of hassle.
[05:09] <doug9> yes, xchat-gNome discoNNects me with a lower case N
[05:10] <jack_> what?
[05:10] <jack_> hahah
[05:10] <overclucker> doug9: nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, haha
[05:10] <silverlightning> any wireless / conntions experts ?
[05:10] <doug9> boo
[05:11] <jack_> doug9: its not hard to learn the cmdline. YOu sould try it :)
[05:11] <silverlightning> I have the weirdest problem with network in lubuntu
[05:11] <jack_> but hte kernel options are set in grub.
[05:11] <mycosys>  jstar5566 readline may be the most useful scripting tool in existance after awk lol
[05:11] <jack_> silverlightning: do tell
[05:11] <Starminn> doug9: There are various command line IRCs although I'm using Pidgin right now without problems, so you could give that a try.
[05:11] <ruan> im on chatzilla
[05:11] <jstar5566> mycosys: :) do you know of any places where people share what tools they use on a regular basis?
[05:11] <ruan> firefox addon
[05:12] <mycosys> not off the top of my head  jstar5566
[05:12] <madsailor> jack_, Ok. do you know how I would go about setting mount as a non-root command
[05:12] <mycosys> i know a few of us do on efnet # desktops, but its purpose is hardware support
[05:12] <overclucker> Starminn: doug9 I find pidgin to be a little weird when using irc
[05:13] <doug9> OK.  I'll dowNload a differeNt chat clieNt aNd be back iN a bit
[05:13] <saby> Hello, I do not get the option to suspend or sleep or hibernate, when i close the lid of my laptop i get Suspend Failed message
[05:13] <silverlightning> I  have installed lubuntu on an old laptop to see how I like it. It does detect network card, correct network, and let's me fill in password, but still resists making connection. It is sort of connected, but something odd, perhaps encryption or something else
[05:13] <silverlightning> does that make any sense jack?
[05:14] <_marx_> wow, 1408
[05:14] <ruan> most of them are afk
[05:14] <Guest10713> hi
[05:16] <sacarlson> silverlightning: I have seen a few people have trouble with wifi encryption and one solution is to use the wicd wifi gui setup to NOT use the wext wpa supplicant driver that is setup in wicd preferences
[05:17] <silverlightning> what is DHCP?
[05:17] <mycosys> dynamic host control protocol
[05:17] <jack_> madsailor: i htink you can just change the permissions ont he binary
[05:17] <ruan> !dhcp
[05:17] <silverlightning> I se
[05:17] <jack_> silverlightning: its the service that gives you an IP when you connect to the network
[05:17] <ruan> ubottu knows all
[05:18] <jack_> orly?
[05:18] <jack_> !whatisthebestlinuxdistro?
[05:18] <mycosys> !42
[05:18] <ruan> lol
[05:18] <jack_> !101010
[05:18] <mycosys> !question
[05:18] <mycosys> thats the question??????
[05:18] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu jack_ ruan
[05:18] <silverlightning> thanks ruan
[05:18] <_marx_> !cowsay
[05:18] <jack_> _marx_++
[05:19] <silverlightning> ubottu is really telling me off here
[05:19] <_marx_> cowsay is in the repos
[05:19] <silverlightning> lol
[05:19] <jack_> cowsay should be installed by default imho
[05:19] <silverlightning> hmm
[05:19] <glitchd> im trying to create a shortcut to open a script program, but no matter what i try i jus get errors??someone help please
[05:19] <KSHawkEye> Hello, what is the difference between static and shared builds? Why would someone want to use --disable-shared why would that be better?
[05:19] <jack_> and all my command should be said by tux
[05:20] <jack_> glitchd: are you specifing the full paths? what errors are you getting?
[05:20] <_marx_> glitchd: see man ln
[05:23] <Macstheyjustsuck> My PSP used to work properly on Maverick, but then I restarted and now it shows up in Maverick, but doesn't let me go into it or see what's on it or anything
[05:24] <jack_> it always makes me nervous when people get operator status
[05:24] <ruan> i dont know about PSPs, but do they have to be mounted?
[05:24] <ruan> nevermind
[05:25] <Macstheyjustsuck> o.O
[05:25] <jack_> nice name heh
[05:25] <ruan> plug it in elsewhere?
[05:25] <thelinuxitjustdo> esn'tsuck
[05:26] <bazhang> !ot > jack_
[05:26] <jack_> ugh bazhang gimmie a break D: im in here to help
[05:26] <ohsix> that's all he does
[05:26] <bazhang> jack_, then stop the unnecessary chit chat
[05:26] <mycosys> trying to drive off the community bazhang?
[05:27] <malv> whats x11 copy command?
[05:27] <ruan> malv: i dont completely understand the question
[05:27] <malv> copy and paste in X11
[05:28] <malv> shift-insert pastes, but what copies?
[05:28] <_marx_> yeah, there is no x11 copy command
[05:28] <mycosys> depends on ur windowing environment, not x11
[05:28] <_marx_> oh, old school unix right click center click
[05:28] <malv> chrome wont let me paste into it from xterm
[05:28] <malv> pfft
[05:28] <mycosys> but normally ^v ^c and shift del and shift ins
[05:28] <Macstheyjustsuck> My PSP used to work properly on Maverick, but then I restarted and now it shows up in Maverick, but doesn't let me go into it or see what's on it or anything, how do I fix this?
[05:29] <mycosys> try edit>copy in xterm
[05:29] <ruan> plug the psp in elsewhere?
[05:29] <jack_> i center click
[05:30] <ohsix> malv: xterm doesn't use the "CLIPBOARD" clipboard, it uses selection, desktop stuff generally uses the clipboard
[05:31] <ruan> !xterm > ruan
[05:31] <doug9_> upgrade problem HP s7727c,
[05:32] <doug9_> AMD 64, Nidia Ubuntu 9.10 OK, 10.04 has no video signal
[05:32] <Macstheyjustsuck> ruan: Didn't help
[05:32] <doug9_> oops, Nvidia
[05:33]  * _marx_ has had sweet success cloning today so please excuse his euphoria 
[05:33] <doug9_> congratulations _marx
[05:33] <jack_> doug9: the problem is that the new bundled nvidia drivers dont work with your card.
[05:33] <jack_> doug9: you will need to edit your kernel line to blacklist the module from loading
[05:34] <jack_> and then you can install the 3rd party nvidia drivers. then you'll be fine
[05:34] <jack_> if you have ssh loaded, you maybe able to do it from another machine
[05:34] <doug9_> Jeeze,  I'm a dumbo for the command line
[05:34] <jack_> doug9: this can be done in grub. which is the bootloader
[05:35] <doug9_> If I reload 9.10 then could I do anything to get 10.04 up and working?
[05:35] <jack_> doug9: perhaps. i think the ugprade process uses the same kernel parameters you've set
[05:35] <schock> trying to get nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 330m] (rev ff) working under 10.10. about to give up :(
[05:35] <saby> Hello, I do not get the option to suspend or sleep or hibernate, when i close the lid of my laptop i get Suspend Failed message
[05:35] <jack_> doug9: i checked the forums and it looks like you can blacklist it in modrpobe. if you can edit the files remotely or via a livecd you should be able to do it
[05:36] <schock> THis is on a sony vaio Z11
[05:36] <junt> ?
[05:36] <junt> some one in here
[05:36] <jack_> doug9: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10324779&postcount=8
[05:36] <ruan>  (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs) how would i set fstab to do this at startup?
[05:36] <junt> ?
[05:36] <jack_> hi junt
[05:37] <jack_> ruan: are you asking that?
[05:37] <junt> sure yes
[05:37] <raido> doug9_: cant you get to a login by doing ctl+lt+F2
[05:37] <doug9_> When I put in a live CD with 10.04 on it the machine shows screen... I can see.  But after rebooting with 10.04 on the hard drive I don't have a video signal
[05:37] <junt> hi jack
[05:37] <ruan> im asking how i could set fstab to do that at startup
[05:37] <jack_> /dev/sda1    /mnt/ntfs    ntfs    defaults    0 0 <ruan
[05:37] <junt> are you chinese?
[05:37] <ruan> thanks jack_
[05:37] <jack_> np
[05:38] <junt> o~~~
[05:38] <jack_> junt: no. i am british :O
[05:38] <junt> o~~i am from china
[05:38] <jack_> whats the chinese ubottu thing?
[05:38] <jack_> !cs
[05:38] <jack_> nope
[05:38] <Secret128> whats
[05:39] <sacarlson> doug9_:  jack_: you might also get control to make the changes of blacklist or 3rd party nvidia drivers by hiting keys <ctl><alt> + f2  to get to console if the system didn't crash completely
[05:39] <ruan> !cn
[05:39] <Secret128> grub rescue
[05:39] <junt> any chinese here?
[05:39] <junt> 有中国人没？
[05:39] <jack_> ruan++
[05:39] <jack_> !cn junt
[05:39] <jack_> !cn
[05:39] <KSHawkEye> Hello, when cross compiling with GCC I had to --disable-shared to get a package to compile, what is the difference between static and shared? why might that have been causing it to fail?
[05:40] <the_drow> !enter | the_drow
[05:40] <MelGibson> i would like to be able to run pdflatex and bibtex remotely from my windows machine. for a report i'm writing (i hate latex on windows) is there a service that allows something like this via SSH?
[05:40] <jack_> MelGibson: are these GUI applications?
[05:40] <MelGibson> command line
[05:40] <jack_> so you want to run windows command line applications from linux?
[05:40] <MelGibson> pdflatex myfile.tex bibtex myfile.bib
[05:41] <MelGibson> no, the other way
[05:41] <meltphace> you're looking for an ssh client for windows?
[05:41] <doug9_> sacarlson: I'm pretty sure the system has not crashed. the hd light continues to flicker as it usually does in the opening stages of booting
[05:41] <jack_> MelGibson: can you not use ssh?
[05:41] <NinjaJeff> I was surprised to ssh in and find my byobu session still going. That normal?
[05:41] <_marx_> lol
[05:41] <jack_> doug9: i have the same issue on my fedora box. its the new drivers. they dont work correclty with newer cards.
[05:41] <jack_> how do you think i new you had nvidia? :P
[05:41] <MelGibson> meltphace, no i know of SSH clients. i was wondering if there is a service that lets me log onto someone else's machien just to run a few commands every hour or so
[05:42] <meltphace> MelGibson: .. an ssh client
[05:42] <meltphace> ;P
[05:42] <MelGibson> jack_, yeah but i don't have a linux machine to SSH into
[05:42] <ruan> my hd light doesnt even flicker on ubuntu
[05:42] <jack_> MelGibson: ssh
[05:42] <Jordan_U> NinjaJeff: That's the entire point of screen (byobu is just a set of profiles an scripts for screen).
[05:42] <doug9_> so maybe i should just run 9.10 and wait?
[05:42] <meltphace> ohhh
[05:42] <jack_> MelGibson: wat. so you want to run commands from a windows machine on nothing?
[05:42] <meltphace> he wants a shell account i think
[05:42] <meltphace> there are still a few sites around which offer free shell accounts
[05:42] <meltphace> but why not just setup latex in cygwin or native latex and run it from msys or something
[05:42] <MelGibson> meltphace, yeah i think something like that would work. but i need those commands specifically. i wouldn't have su to install pdflatex
[05:43] <meltphace> latex on windows is very similar to latex on linux ;P
[05:43] <MelGibson> meltphace becuase that is a pain in the arse and never works for me. it's one of the most poorly user friendly experiences i've had
[05:43] <NinjaJeff> Jordan_U: Interesting. Does it maintain my login, then?
[05:44] <NinjaJeff> If I detach from my current session, how can I get back to it?
[05:44] <meltphace> NinjaJeff: screen -r
[05:44] <Jordan_U> NinjaJeff: Yes. "logging in" is not as statefull as you probably think.
[05:44] <doug9_> thank you all
[05:45] <MelGibson> would a shell account usually have pdflatex for instance?
[05:45] <doug9_> I'm going to wait for U to make Nvidia work
[05:45] <jack_> for me?!
[05:45] <jack_> hehe
[05:45] <jack_> doug9: its not hard to blacklist the driver. you need to edit the kernel parameter. just add 'rdblacklist=nouveau' to the end
[05:45] <jack_> that'll stop it from loading and you should get gui
[05:46] <NinjaJeff> Jordan_U: Would another user on the machine see my username in a who?
[05:46] <meltphace> MelGibson: maybe. depends on the service
[05:46] <NinjaJeff> Thanks, meltphace.
[05:46] <meltphace> MelGibson: it really makes more sense to just run linux or cygwin if you really need these things
[05:46] <Jordan_U> NinjaJeff: Yes.
[05:46] <meltphace> miktex is also really easy to setup, esp with texniccenter
[05:46] <doug9_> thanks jack, doug out
[05:46] <_marx_> oh gee i must go have a smoke now yall crack me up!
[05:47] <MelGibson> meltphace i'm not going to just run linux
[05:47] <sacarlson> jack_: doug9_: I'm not sure but another option might be to create a xorg.conf file to tell it what driver you want to use on your nvidia card
[05:48] <Rask> Hey guys.  I'm trying to install kubuntu (but that channel is dead silent) and running into some trouble.  I believe I'm suffering from the issue with nvidia cards, powermizer, and resulting screen flicker.  I see two similar solutions online, but both refer to files that no longer seem to exist in 10.04.
[05:48] <Rask> One refers to /etc/modprobe.d/options, which doesn't exist anymore, and the other refers to xorg.conf, which doesn't exist anymore.
[05:48] <doug9_> Nvidia narcosis
[05:48] <sacarlson> doug9_:  but personaly I don't upgrade unless needed.  if 9.1 works stick with it,  if it was an upgrade you might even be able to just move back one version of kernel in your grub settings
[05:49] <Rask> By way of background, let me say that I really, really want to become a linux user, but every single time I've tried over the past ten years or so, I've hit a debilitating problem that nobody can explain or solve and I end up using Windows for another few years.
[05:49] <Rask> Will you help me break the cycle?  Please?  :)
[05:49] <ruan> why don't you try ubuntu?
[05:49] <ohsix> also 10.10, not 10.04
[05:49] <ruan> hmm whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:49] <Rask> KDE versus GNOME.
[05:49] <ruan> ah
[05:50] <lighta> gui is not only what differenciate distribution
[05:50] <SwedeMike> Rask: xorg.conf exists, but if it's not there, it uses defaults. You can still create one.
[05:50] <Rask> SwedeMike: Ok.  How do I do that?
[05:50] <ohsix> Rask: well if you really want to use it, KDE i sn't a _great_ start
[05:50] <Macstheyjustsuck> My PSP used to work properly on Maverick, but then I restarted and now it shows up in Maverick, but doesn't let me go into it or see what's on it or anything, how do I fix this?
[05:50] <Rask> I mean, the website I found suggests a way to modify xorg.conf, but I dunno about starting with a totally blank slate...
[05:50] <meltphace> MelGibson: then what are you doing in #ubuntu you silly
[05:51] <GanjaReefer> trying to get X forwarding on SSH, have the options set to yes in both ssh_config and sshd_config trying ssh -X but no display variale shows up...
[05:52] <SwedeMike> Rask: http://tinypaste.com/3b49f is mine for instance, you can create it and just use a few subsections.
[05:52] <Chikokishi> I was listening to a song, then the sound on my computer suddenly stopped again.. Why does it keep doing this!?
[05:53] <ohsix> Chikokishi: sounds like pulseaudio is dying, how fast is your machine? if it uses too much cpu it tends to kill itself (but you can change the resampler so it uses less cpu)
[05:54] <craigpemberton> hello is this the Ubuntu help irc chat?
[05:54] <Chikokishi> My computer is only a couple months old.  Its fast enough to play regular games and watch dvds and such
[05:54] <ohsix> probably something else then
[05:54] <Chikokishi> and the sound has been working for like 6 hours
[05:54] <ruan> craigpemberton: yes
[05:54] <indecipherable> i love it when people rate the speed of machine based on the date purchased.
[05:54] <Chikokishi> Indecipherable, i mean its not an old machine with a smaller processor.
[05:55] <SwedeMike> Chikokishi: there are brand new computers that are slower than 4 year old ones.
[05:55] <craigpemberton> does anybody here know their way around grub2 and getting it to boot windows7?
[05:55] <Chikokishi> i know... Im just saying (in a simple way) that its fast enough to run music
[05:55] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, have you messed with your boot?
[05:55] <lighta> craigpemberton, isn't your question to default windows for start ?
[05:55] <Chikokishi> im not sure of its exact speed
[05:56] <SwedeMike> craigpemberton: the first hit on google for <grub2 booting windows 7> is http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/ which looks quite comprehensible.
[05:56] <craigpemberton> I have a working windows partition, but I'm having trouble getting grub to accept it
[05:56] <ohsix> Chikokishi: i only ask that to rule out a quick swath of problems, brand new netbooks can be "too slow" at times, though
[05:56] <craigpemberton> I've been through that
[05:57] <tech_1> hi>>
[05:57] <Chikokishi> Well, iv got a dual core 2.3 ghz proc with 3gb of mem
[05:57] <sacarlson> craigpemberton:  so it already boots ubuntu?  it should have created a grub2 entry already,  did you look at boot by holding shift key at boot time?
[05:58] <craigpemberton> I can edit the menu entry in grub, the issue is that all configurations I have seen result in in this error message: "A disk read error occurred. Press ctrl+alt+del to restart"
[05:58] <craigpemberton> for windows
[05:58] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, i just sent you a link to a graphical grub customizer that i use
[05:58] <craigpemberton> ubuntu boots fine
[05:58] <Ritlee> you should give it a try
[05:58] <GanjaReefer> trying to get X forwarding on SSH, have the options set to yes in both ssh_config and sshd_config trying ssh -X but no display variale shows up...
[05:59] <lighta> craigpemberton, are you sure you windows partition is fine ? this error seem like not
[05:59] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, then there's something wrong with your windows install
[05:59] <Chikokishi> ohsix, how do i restart pulse audio?
[05:59] <Rask> Ok, the xorg.conf fix looks more questionable than the modprobe one anyway... can we look back at that one?  Basically I'm trying to add a couple 'option' lines to /etc/modprobe.d/options or its equivalent in 10.04.  I'm led to understand by the manpage that the equivalent thing here is just to create any old .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ so I've done this but it doesn't appear to work.  Is there a way to know whether the files have been read pro
[06:00] <craigpemberton> I can read from the windows partition from ubuntu and everything seems to be in place
[06:00] <guest> hello
[06:00] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: that sounds like you had a bad shutdown in windows and needs a windows like file check to fix it.  I'm not sure linux has anything to fix ntfs files systems
[06:01] <ohsix> Chikokishi: if it quit (which it probably has if sound has stopped) it will restart
[06:01] <craigpemberton> I had grub1 down just fine.... this new grub seems like overkill
[06:01] <Chikokishi> ohsix it hasnt yet
[06:01] <Chikokishi> ohsix, restarting my machien doesnt fix it either
[06:01] <Chikokishi> ohsix, last time this happened my computer finally did a "
[06:01] <lighta> yeah had this change too was hard 1st day...
[06:01] <Chikokishi> partial update" then it worked
[06:02] <lighta> did you run grub update already ?
[06:02] <craigpemberton> yeah... i edit my etc/grub.d/11_Windows script, then sudo update-grub, then what i had shows up in my grub.cfg
[06:02] <ohsix> Chikokishi: hard to say, there are logs in /var/log that might have something to say about why pulse exited, if it actually did
[06:02] <craigpemberton> then i can boot to the boot loader
[06:03] <craigpemberton> and what i've put is there faithfully
[06:03] <craigpemberton> I've tried a bunch of different things and I've been looking at the grub documentation
[06:03] <Chikokishi> ohsix how do i get there
[06:04] <ruan> var/log? you go there.
[06:04] <Chilaquiles> Hey my ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize any usb flash drive, it was recongnizing them before, any suggestions?
[06:04] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, cleanly remove from windows
[06:04] <Chikokishi> ruan well.. yes.. but like. is that in my computer, is that in documents...  Iv only been on ubuntu for 3 days
[06:05] <ruan> Chikokishi: its in filesystem of ubuntu
[06:05] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: what?
[06:05] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: I guess I was wrong there is a tool in linux to fix ntfs file systems called ntfsfix
[06:05] <ruan> Chikokishi: root of drive
[06:05] <craigpemberton> I might just reinstall everything which would be a pain but possibly cleaner....
[06:05] <craigpemberton> guh
[06:05] <ruan> log viewer also works
[06:06] <codewiz> currently any problems with pidgin or the icq servers? i corrected the server adress to login.icq.com maybe a month or two ago, now i cant log in
[06:06] <ohsix> bazhang: he was here earlier about that; all his external drives stopped working at some point, not just one
[06:06] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, sounds like you just yanked them out with syncing the cache
[06:06] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: so what do you recommend?
[06:06] <lighta> just erase windows then hehe (ok not fun)
[06:06] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, you might backup your grub to a disk that you can boot off of (ie floopy or usb) that will start your ubuntu install... once that is done, load the windows 7 install disk in your system and boot off it, and repair your win 7 install... i think you may have just a file or two that are critical for windows to start corrupted
[06:06] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: sounds simple http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ntfsfix.8.html
[06:06] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, go back into windows, then cleanly remove them after syncing the cache
[06:07] <Chikokishi> ruan i dont have permission to see the root folder in my filesystem drive.  How do i get there?
[06:07] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: sorry but I don't know how to sync the cache
[06:07] <ahaziah77> jack_, cool, appreciate the help, i was able to successfully move and use the skins for vlc
[06:07] <ruan> Chikokishi: i meant the root of the drive, which means the start of the drive
[06:07] <craigpemberton> craigp@goldfoot> sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda5
[06:07] <craigpemberton> Mounting volume... OK
[06:07] <craigpemberton> Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
[06:07] <Chikokishi> oh, i was in there and i didnt see "var" i saw like bin and etc and such..
[06:08] <craigpemberton> NTFS volume version is 3.1.
[06:08] <craigpemberton> NTFS partition /dev/sda5 was processed successfully.
[06:08] <FloodBot1> craigpemberton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <craigpemberton> craigp@goldfoot>
[06:08] <ruan> !paste
[06:08] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, simple: insert, select remove cleanly or somesuch
[06:08] <Chikokishi> ruan, ah i got it i was in ubuntu drive not root drive >.<
[06:08] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: ok, let me try that
[06:08] <bazhang> sacarlson, he'd be better off fixing it in windows, ntfsprogs wont do that
[06:08] <tech_1> hi friends any one help me to setup james server.
[06:08] <ruan> !ask
[06:09] <bazhang> tech_1, what is that
[06:09] <Chikokishi> Okay, now im there what kind of log am i looking for exactly?
[06:09] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: I don't think you have a grub2 problem it's a ntfs file system problem with a posible simple fix with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ntfsfix.8.html and a bazhang states windows must have better tools
[06:09] <bazhang> sacarlson, he quit
[06:09] <tech_1> it is used to setup mailserver using java..
[06:10] <glitchd> can someone help me make a pythol script execute from a shortcut on my top panel??please??
[06:10] <tech_1> it is java mailserver
[06:10] <ruan> tech_1: what is the question?
[06:10] <bazhang> tech_1, in the ubuntu repos?
[06:10] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi guys, I have three questions about the 4.0b12+, since the Firefox IRC channel is completely dead. 1) is there a way to change the colour of the white  screen that shows in a new tab before the page loads? 2) Is there a way to keep the find bar up when refreshing/changing tabs like it used to do? 3) What happened to Googles Scrollbar lol!?
[06:10] <GanjaReefer> trying to get X forwarding on SSH, have the options set to yes in both ssh_config and sshd_config trying ssh -X but no display variale shows up...
[06:10] <glitchd> jack_, u still there??
[06:10] <bazhang> Gwar_Trolle, installed from where? ubuntu repos? PPA?
[06:11] <tech_1> how can we setup james mail server.
[06:11] <Gwar_Trolle> bazhang: Mozilla Daily PPA. Asking here because #firefox has no-one alive
[06:11] <bazhang> tech_1, where was it installed from
[06:11] <ruan> Gwar_Trolle: the white screen can be changed with an addon: "Stylish"
[06:11] <Chikokishi> ohsix im in the var/log.  What should i look for?
[06:11] <Rask> From the top again :)  Hey guys, I'm trying to solve an issue with my nVidia card by putting an option line into /etc/modprobe.d/options - unfortunately that file doesn't exist anymore.  Where should I put it instead, and how can I verify that the system has correctly interpreted it?
[06:11] <Gwar_Trolle> ruan: I have that, what do I need to make it to change? I have "new tab" changed, but that doesn't change the loading screen thing
[06:11] <bazhang> tech_1, please answer my question instead of simply repeating your question
[06:11] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: is that gonna make that my machine can detect all my usb drives?
[06:12] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, lets try it and see
[06:12] <mycosys> rask would likely go in x11 config
[06:13] <Rask> mycosys: Except it doesn't.  The majority of pages I've turned up googling for this have alluded to an option in modprobe.
[06:13] <ruan> Gwar_Trolle: hmm, you could use a universal dark style
[06:13] <tech_1> it is installed from james.org
[06:13] <GanjaReefer> well used -v to see debug and somehow now it works -,-
[06:13] <bazhang> tech_1, and what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[06:13] <Gwar_Trolle> ruan: That kind of defeats the point of wanting to change one thing...
[06:13] <mycosys> what are you actually trying to set rask?
[06:13] <ruan> Gwar_Trolle: yeah i know
[06:14] <juabn1> i need help
[06:14] <bazhang> juabn1, with?
[06:14] <juabn1> i install compiz fusion
[06:14] <GanjaReefer> is that a bug!?
[06:14] <ruan> how can i change the size of the audio buffer?
[06:14] <bazhang> juabn1, its installed by default; did you mean ccsm?
[06:14] <tech_1> actctuy i want to setup smtp to sending mail using java.
[06:15] <Rask> mycosys:
[06:15] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: it didn't do anything
[06:15] <Rask> options nvidia NVreg_RegistryDwords='PerfLevelSrc=0x2222'
[06:15] <Rask> options nvidia NVreg_Mobile=1
[06:15] <juabn1> i write in terminal
[06:15] <juabn1> compiz --replace
[06:15] <juabn1> now compiz isn't work
[06:16] <bazhang> juabn1, you should do that in run dialog alt f2
[06:16] <bazhang> juabn1, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[06:17] <mycosys> see /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-<ver#>/
[06:17] <mycosys> rask
[06:17] <Chilaquiles> Hey my ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize any usb flash drive, it was recongnizing them before, any suggestions?
[06:17] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, how many usb sticks/drives
[06:17] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: like 10
[06:18] <mycosys> rask http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Nvidia best documentation i have seen of nv binary blob
[06:18] <juabn1> don't work :(
[06:18] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, and you tested them all? cleanly removing after inserting?
[06:18] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: yes
[06:18] <gaelfx> is there an easy way to stream movies from my Ubuntu box to other computers (regardless of OS) on the same LAN?
[06:18] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: they work in the other ubuntu machine that I have
[06:19] <bazhang> gaelfx, perhaps mediatomb
[06:19] <bazhang> !info mediatomb | gaelfx
[06:19] <phonex01> oh hello
[06:19] <Rask> mycosys: I don't know what good that is to me... I'm just trying to find out at this point whether modprobe actually acted on the conf file I created or not.  How do I do that?
[06:20] <ruan> !hello
[06:20] <AbhijiT> hi
[06:20] <phonex01> how can i open .vce file used by " Visual Certexam" in ubuntu without using wine to install the Visual certexam ?
[06:20] <AbhijiT> which should i downlod in this? why there is no linux font? http://desktoppub.about.com/library/fonts/hs/uc_scriptina.htm
[06:21] <ohsix> AbhijiT: theres lots of linux fonts, theres even an ubuntu ont
[06:22] <AbhijiT> ohsix, i am talking about 'that' link
[06:22] <robbiethe1st> Hello, all. I've got a problem with Grub2. I just now installed Kubuntu from a liveCD onto a MD raid partition, chrooted into it, installed mdadm and did grub-install etc... Yet when I try to boot off it, I get an -old- grub menu. Stuff that's not in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:22] <Guest87758> is their an about me section in ubuntu?
[06:22] <phonex01> how can i open .vce file used by " Visual Certexam" in ubuntu without using wine to install the Visual certexam ?
[06:23] <soid__> hi! I have 2 OSs on my laptop: ubuntu & windows. How do I "hibernate" linux and load windows and restore state linux then?
[06:23] <juabn1> i  need help    i write compiz --replace   and compiz don't work :'(
[06:23] <ohsix> soid__: the stuff nightmares are made of!
[06:24] <soid__> ohsix, which?
[06:24] <ohsix> hibernating one and using the other
[06:24] <Jdogg420> when i click compiz fusion icon it logs me out of ubuntu ??
[06:24] <dirty-harry> Guest87758: you can click on your username in gnome, maybe that's what your looking for
[06:24] <ohsix> the shared partitions if they're mounted will be severely damaged
[06:24] <soid__> so is it impossible?
[06:25] <ohsix> no, but not worth the risk of it ever happening
[06:25] <soid__> maybe not hibernate but something like that?
[06:26] <robbiethe1st> soid: so long as you don't share partitions between the OS's...
[06:26] <amarin> hi
[06:26] <amarin> need help
[06:26] <soid__> how do I do that on my risk? just when I hibernate my linux it doesn't show me grub when reloading
[06:26] <Jdogg420> when i click the compiz fusion icon it logs me out of desktop
[06:26] <amarin> major problem with chromium
[06:27] <amarin> in unity
[06:27] <amarin> I have chromium installed but as soon as I click preferences under unity the whole computer freezes
[06:27] <amarin> unity is a piece of crap but it looks nice
[06:27] <Chilaquiles> Hey my ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize any usb flash drive, it was recongnizing them before, any suggestions?
[06:27] <Jdogg420> how do i see iv my graphic driver is installed in a terminal?
[06:27] <amarin> ubuntu 10.10.
[06:28] <ebah> dirty-harry, honestly, I'm trying to figure out if this computer was stolen. It already had xubuntu installed, so I thought I would check to make sure the original owner is the one who sold it to me
[06:28] <ebah> I don't have any reason to believe it was
[06:28] <lighta> Jdogg420, lshw -c display
[06:28] <Jdogg420> how do i see iv my graphic driver is installed in a terminal?
[06:28] <amarin> unity needs updated on ubuntu 10.10.
[06:28] <soid__> robbiethe1st, how do I do that on my risk? just when I hibernate my linux it doesn't show me grub when reloading
[06:28] <robbiethe1st> Jdogg: glxinfo
[06:28] <amarin> it clashes with chromium and generates no error reporting.
[06:29] <robbiethe1st> soid: Try messing around with the grub.cfg(etc) files, and google the same
[06:30] <soid__> robbiethe1st, ok, thanks
[06:30] <robbiethe1st> Mind, I'm on my phone right now, so I can't type fast etc.
[06:30] <amarin> anybody know why unity clashes with chromium
[06:31] <glitchd> does anyone have a clue how to make a python script execute from and icon shortcut on my top panel??
[06:31] <dirty-harry> ebah: oh, that's something different
[06:31] <robbiethe1st> amarin: might want to ask the chromium people?
[06:31] <amarin> unity it only happens with unity.
[06:31] <dnkbd> I need help with wireless on Maverick, it is a Realtek card.
[06:31] <amarin> how do i get into a chromium irc channel
[06:32] <lighta> glitchd, why don't you just make a launcher on ou destock lauching you script ?
[06:32] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: make it an excecutable python file, then drag it into the panel?
[06:32] <dnkbd> Please?
[06:32] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, i did that and it does nothing
[06:32] <lighta> does it have right
[06:32] <lighta> to execte ?
[06:32] <dirty-harry> ebah: honestly I have no idea where to start on this...
[06:33] <lighta> check if he have x permission glitchd
[06:33] <amarin> hi
[06:33] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: you can run it by double-clicking, right?
[06:33] <Chipzzz> glitchd: do you have a shebang at the start of the file?
[06:33] <mc1> Morning! Anybody can help me with this: I upgraded from Jaunty to Maverick. In this process I lost proprietary display drivers and thus the ability to have 3D and desktop effects and certain windows games I play on Wine and no screen-savers either. The upgrade was through Internet download.
[06:33] <robbiethe1st> mc1: reinstall the driver
[06:33] <Ntemis> hello anyone able to help me on my ubuntu server
[06:33] <AbhijiT> hi
[06:33] <amarin> hi
[06:33] <AbhijiT> ibus is not working for libreoffice. help
[06:33] <dnkbd> No, no  wifi help?
[06:34] <Ntemis> i have this error
[06:34] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.de/15314
[06:34] <Chipzzz> glitchd: (#!path/to/python)
[06:34] <amarin> unity kills chromium in ubuntu 10.10
[06:34] <Ntemis> how i get rid of it?
[06:34] <glitchd> Chipzzz, yes i do
[06:34] <mc1> robbieth1st: Hello! What driver?? How?? I've only used Linux for short time
[06:34] <amarin> restricted drivers
[06:34] <amarin> nvidia or ati
[06:34] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, no i cannot, it only either opens the editor or it opens and closes in a flash
[06:35] <amarin> delete linux that should fix all your problems
[06:35] <Chipzzz> glitchd: and the file is executable?
[06:35] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: try having the first line be: "#/usr/bin/python"
[06:35] <glitchd> yes
[06:35] <glitchd> Chipzzz, yes
[06:35] <dnkbd> Well to those kind folks out there that may or may not be reading this....lshw -C Network shows my wifi adapter but it is marked disabled and network manager nor wicd can see any wireless networks
[06:36] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, it is
[06:36] <Jdogg420> when i do sudo  lshw -c display
[06:36] <Jdogg420> i get this  *-display UNCLAIMED
[06:36] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: optn a terminal to that directory, type "./myscript.py"
[06:36] <lighta> dnkbd, so ? you want to turn it on ?
[06:36] <robbiethe1st> what happens?
[06:36] <Jdogg420>  capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list
[06:36] <Jdogg420>        configuration: latency=32 mingnt=2
[06:37] <Jdogg420> does that mean it has the right driver?
[06:37] <dnkbd> lighta, yes, i guess lol, but the physical switch is on
[06:37] <Jdogg420> description: VGA compatible controller
[06:37] <Jdogg420>        product: K8M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 UniChrome Pro]
[06:37] <lighta> try something like ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:37] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, that runs the script
[06:37] <Chipzzz> glitchd: ... need a couple of minutes to figure it out
[06:37] <dnkbd> lighta, I get operation not permitted
[06:38] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, i want to make a shortcut on my top panel to run it instead of goin thru term each time
[06:38] <lighta> well put sudo cmd
[06:38] <glitchd> Chipzzz, thxthx
[06:38] <dnkbd> lighta, even with sudo and even with sudo su
[06:38] <ebah> dirty-harry, I found some stuff under users and groups. It looks to be the same guy, so I'm not too worried.
[06:38] <AbhijiT> ibus is not working for libreoffice. help
[06:38] <amarin> UNITY IS A PIECE OF SHIT
[06:38] <karanmenon> my vga output doesnt work
[06:38] <amarin> FIX YOUR FUCKING CODE
[06:38] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: You can try "gnome-terminal -e /path/to/file.py" IIRC
[06:38] <ruan> !lang
[06:38] <robbiethe1st> and run -that-
[06:38] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, iirc??
[06:38] <bazhang> amarin, watch the language
[06:38] <AbhijiT> amarin, #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <karanmenon> how do i get my VGA to work?
[06:38] <lighta> :( idk then do you have a physical switch for your wifi ?
[06:38] <ruan> !language
[06:38] <robbiethe1st> If I Recall Correctly
[06:38] <mc1> Anybody can help me with this: I upgraded from Jaunty to Maverick. In this process I lost proprietary display drivers and thus the ability to have 3D and desktop effects and certain windows games I play on Wine and no screen-savers either. The upgrade was through Internet download.
[06:39] <dnkbd> lighta, yes and it is on and the light is on
[06:39] <AbhijiT> !vga | karanmenon
[06:39] <robbiethe1st> mc1: go to extra drivers, install it again?
[06:39] <dnkbd> this has been giving me trouble for a while, nothing in additional drivers either.
[06:39] <mc1> robbiethe1st: can you tell me how???
[06:40] <karanmenon> can someone help me to get my VGA output to work?
[06:40] <lighta> may you paste your ifconfig result please ?
[06:40] <Laibsch> My netbook wifi frequently disconnects.  Signal strength is two of four bars as indicated by Network Manager.  Where should I look to find the reason?  /var/log/syslog does not seem have any entry related to this.
[06:40] <Laibsch> Does NM reconnect if the connection from the LAN to the internet does not work and there are other configured wifi networks available?
[06:40] <dnkbd> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:33:bd:d5:10
[06:40] <dnkbd>           inet addr:192.168.1.104  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[06:40] <dnkbd>           inet6 addr: fe80::21e:33ff:febd:d510/64 Scope:Link
[06:40] <dnkbd>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:40] <dnkbd>           RX packets:3638 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:40] <FloodBot1> dnkbd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:40] <dnkbd>           TX packets:3028 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:40] <lighta> !paste | dnkbd
[06:40] <Ntemis> anyone able to help me?
[06:40] <robbiethe1st> mc1: Um, under main menu > system or something like that
[06:40] <Ntemis> unsupported RAID level: -1
[06:41] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.de/15314
[06:41] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, i pm'd u
[06:41] <dnkbd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569498/
[06:41] <AbhijiT> ibus is not working for libreoffice. help
[06:42] <dnkbd> lighta, wlan2 is not listed there but iwconfig shows it
[06:42] <lighta> hmm ok
[06:42] <amarin> THE ROCK IS BACK ON WWE
[06:43] <amarin> Dwayne Johnston is back.
[06:43] <rww> !ot
[06:43] <amarin> The rock is going to show the world he is the most electrifying man in all of entertainment.
[06:44] <lubosz> hi. how do i install 32bit libs in 64bit ubuntu that are not part of ia32-libs?
[06:44] <mc1> robbiethe1st: the "additional drivers window" shows "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system", and it's quite empty.
[06:44] <schock> argh. can't get out of run in failsafe graphic mode
[06:45] <dnkbd> lighta, i don't understand..... it is like it knows it is there but won't show....
[06:45] <Chipzzz> glitchd: you still with us?
[06:46] <gaelfx> ok, I installed mediatomb, but when I start it says the UI is disabled, so I edited the config file , changed the setting to yes and restarted mediatomb service, but it still says the UI is disabled. What am I doing wrong?
[06:46] <dnkbd> lighta, also i have tried cancucked and chili's solutions from the forum and yet nothing.
[06:46] <robbiethe1st> mc1: what graphics card do you have? AMD:
[06:46] <lighta> dnkbd, check your pm
[06:47] <Chipzzz> glitchd: I have your answer...
[06:49] <lubosz> is there a better solution than unpacking the deb and copying it into /usr/lib32 ?
[06:50] <Chipzzz> lubosz: you could install them with deb
[06:51] <lubosz> when i download a 32bit deb, won't it overwrite the 64bit package?
[06:51] <gaelfx> ok, I have mediatomb working, but it's not really what I thought it would be
[06:55] <Chipzzz> lubosz: I wouldn't think so but use gdebi to make sure
[06:55] <lubosz> ok thx Chipzzz
[06:56] <Chipzzz> glitchd: are you still here?
[06:56]  * schock throws up hands
[06:56] <schock> time for a fresh install
[06:57] <schock> (sony vaio z11)
[06:57] <schock> maybe I'll have more luck with Natty :P
[06:57] <lubosz> oh shii vaio
[06:58] <lubosz> schock: natty is unstable, so it won't run better. the only thing that could help you is the more recent kernel
[06:59] <Ntemis> schock: manually install 2.6.37.1
[06:59] <schock> Ntemis: did that
[06:59] <Ntemis> i see
[06:59] <Ntemis> and..
[06:59] <lubosz> schock: if vaio z11 is not brand new, then the new kernel won't help you either
[06:59] <schock> it's brand new lubosz
[06:59] <lubosz> schock: what is the problem on 10.10?
[07:00] <Ntemis> what is the problem with it?
[07:00] <lubosz> ok
[07:00] <schock> get it yesterday
[07:00] <lubosz> then go with archlinux
[07:00] <schock> :)
[07:00] <lubosz> :p
[07:00] <FloodBot1> lubosz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <schock> ok so the problem is, i'm trying to get the nvidia card working
[07:00] <lubosz> schock: install the beta driver
[07:00] <lubosz> 270
[07:00] <ohsix> schock: if you wanna see if whatever your problem is is fixed on natty; you can try one of the daily images http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[07:00] <schock> maybe that's the problem and i should stick w/intel...
[07:00] <tim_> I'm having trouble installing the linux 4.6 version of Vuze, the version in the repo's ias out of date
[07:00] <lubosz> schock: i'm also on vaio. the nvidia drivers pre 270 did not work
[07:00] <schock> ohsix: i have yesterday's :)
[07:01] <lubosz> i had to use a legacy driver (250 something)
[07:01] <ohsix> schock: ah keen
[07:01] <schock> lubosz: so which driver... where can i get it?
[07:01] <lubosz> schock: do you know how to use the terminal without a x server?
[07:01] <schock> I was trying to follow the steps at adam's vaioz kernal hacks
[07:01] <lubosz> then  install a drvier from nvidia.com
[07:01] <lubosz> and remove the one from ubuntu
[07:01] <schock> but then, i realized i don't care about having both cards
[07:01] <lubosz> but maybe there is a ppa for nvidia beta driver
[07:01] <schock> i just want one working well
[07:01] <lubosz> you could use that, if it exists
[07:02] <schock> who the f#$ needs to switch between cards? i still get 4-5 hours with nvidia :P
[07:02] <schock> I'm on round 3 of trying :)
[07:02] <lubosz> switching betwwen card is pain in the arse
[07:02] <mycosys> can just use the nvidia installer from their site
[07:02] <lubosz> you need to switch libgl an stuff
[07:03] <tim_> Im trying to install  from the source file available on the vuze website. I can't get it to install though... any help?
[07:03] <schock> i got it to the point where everything worked, except i had to boot to 'graphics safe mode' but it wasn't really..
[07:03] <schock> i tried the nvidia installer... no joy
[07:03] <lubosz> schock: which version did you try?
[07:03] <lubosz> schock: did you remove the nvidia packages from ubuntu?
[07:03] <schock> i think i probably created a conflict
[07:03] <lubosz> yes
[07:04] <schock> first i installed w'install drivers' gui
[07:04] <lubosz> you need to remove all the nvidia packages from apt
[07:04] <lubosz> the drivers in ubuntu are propably too old
[07:04] <schock> then, later i was following a guide and installed manually from nvidia site
[07:04] <lubosz> you have to use the beta driver 270
[07:04] <schock> lubosz: from where?
[07:04] <Chipzzz> tim: how did you try to install it & what happened?
[07:05] <lubosz> nvidia.com, if there is no way to do this by deb
[07:05] <lubosz> which i don't know
[07:05] <lubosz> i think there could be a ppa around somewhere
[07:05] <lubosz> it would be the cleaner solution
[07:05] <lubosz> the nvidia installer conflicts with the package managment
[07:05] <schock> mm
[07:05] <Chipzzz> tim_: how did you try to install it & what happened?
[07:05] <ruan> how do i set audacity to record from speakers?
[07:05] <ruan> aka stereo
[07:06] <tim_> chipzzzz, extracted from the .bz2 file, then moved it to my home directory. then went into it in terminal ./vuze.................................can I paste my output from there?
[07:06] <sacarlson> tim_:  what feature is making you want to install direct vuze instead of sudo apt-get install vuze ?
[07:06] <tim_> devices feature is not in the version in repos
[07:06] <lubosz> schock: http://pkgs.org/download/ubuntu-10.10/ubuntu-x-amd64/nvidia-current_270.18-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1_amd64.deb.html
[07:07] <sacarlson> tim_: nothing in ppa?
[07:07] <schock> thanks@
[07:07] <ohsix> lubosz: that doesn't look like it's a good idea to install
[07:07] <devin> Hello everyone
[07:07] <lubosz> ohsix: it's a mirror from some ppa, i didn't find the source
[07:07] <devin> anyone have luck getting printers to work with ubutnu?
[07:07] <lubosz> find the source repo for that and add it with apt-add-repository
[07:08] <robbiethe1st> devin: absolutely no problem.
[07:08] <schock> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-current_270.18-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1_amd64.deb
[07:08] <devin> I have a hp deskjet 1000
[07:08] <ohsix> lubosz: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[07:08] <devin> will the driver be found automatically?
[07:09] <tim_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569513/
[07:09] <lubosz> schock: don't install the deb manually, add the ppa
[07:09] <lubosz> schock: the one ohsix linked
[07:09] <schock> ok
[07:10] <schock> thanks
[07:10] <schock> i guess i should do a fresh 10.10 install, not natty ;)
[07:10] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569513/
[07:11] <bullgard> The metapackage ubuntu-desktop depends on the package smbclient. How can I modify the metapackage ubuntu-desktop so that it no longer depends on smbclient?
[07:11] <tim_> sacarlson, looks to be a Java problem... I'm a bit of a noob, sorry
[07:11] <Chipzzz> tim_: looks like either it's missing dependencies, not installed properly, or both
[07:11] <tim_> Chipzzz, ok thanks.... what are my options then?
[07:12] <sacarlson> tim_:  another reason not to install 64bit ubuntu Cannot load 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM
[07:13] <tim_> sacarlson, i think i'm on 32 bit on this system
[07:13] <dirty-harry> question---> do I need to encrypt my swap manually; thought I was asked the last time I installed and didn't checked afterwards
[07:15] <Chipzzz> tim_: did you follow the installation instructions here: http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Initial_Setup_Guide ?
[07:15] <mycosys> tim_ would recommend deluge over vuze - much lighter client
[07:16] <tim_> mycosys, yes, but I want to use the Vuze devices feature to play files on my Samsung TV
[07:16] <mycosys> i have mythtv for that lol
[07:17] <sacarlson> tim_:  what does this show you? uname -a
[07:18] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569519/
[07:20] <Fausto> irc notification  is shit
[07:22] <Daskreech> Hello can someone help with an nvidia card glitching?
[07:22] <Daskreech> It flickers from the Grub meni
[07:22] <Daskreech> Menu
[07:22] <maco> !language | Fausto
[07:22] <LouisVuittonBags> http://img282.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27802_962_full_122_162lo.jpg
[07:22] <v_v> Hello all i am using 9.04 , when i compile a thread program i am getting this Error ,,, thread.h: No such file or directory
[07:22] <foxjazz> so I copied a large file onto an existing usb drive. Now when I put the drive on a windows machine, it complains.
[07:23] <foxjazz> I can't rename or delete the file I copied, it says unable
[07:23] <Fausto> ok but  this notification     can stop?
[07:23] <Fausto> can the admin  stop   notification?
[07:23] <foxjazz> any ideas?
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:20:53) robotarmy ha salido de la sala (quit: Remote host closed the connection).
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:48) Elv13 ha salido de la sala (quit: Ping timeout: 276 seconds).
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:53) blag ha salido de la sala (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101206140217]).
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:56) StepNjump [~StepNjump@184-96-109-108.hlrn.qwest.net] ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:59) Daskreech [~skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:22:01) v_v [~v_v@112.110.82.154] ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:22:08) Ethan` [~kevin@bb116-15-75-132.singnet.com.sg] ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:22:12) headyadmin ha salido de la sala (quit: Quit: headyadmin).
[07:23] <FloodBot1> Fausto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:23] <Chipzzz> LouisVuittonBags: rofl
[07:24] <LouisVuittonBags> :)
[07:24] <tsimpson> Fausto: that depends on your client
[07:24] <Stevezau> a udev rule with ENV{ID_INPUT_KEYBOARD}=="0" should disable xorg from adding the device as a keyboard right?
[07:24] <Fausto> mmm
[07:24] <v_v> Fausto: whats is that meand man ?
[07:24] <Fausto> i use pidgin
[07:25] <ylmfos> who is this?
[07:26] <tsimpson> Fausto: apparently there is a "Join/Part Hiding plugin" that comes with pidgin, you'll need to load and use that
[07:26] <cdbs> ylmfos: This is the support channel for Ubuntu
[07:26] <sacarlson> tim_: that looks like 32bit to me I'm not sure why you have that problem then
[07:28] <gyyrog> I installed vmware tools via synaptic. on restart it is telling me to wait or go to command prompt
[07:28] <gyyrog> I have been waiting a half hour
[07:28] <Wished_M> hi
[07:28] <gyyrog> Is something going wrong?
[07:28] <Wished_M> hi hyyrog
[07:28] <tim_> sacarlson, hmmmm... I'm searching for a deb file for version 4.6
[07:29] <Wished_M> any one got an idea about windows live messenger ?
[07:29] <sacarlson> tim_ might try this: sudo get-build-deps vuze
[07:29] <Fausto> can not speak with so many notifications
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> Wished_M: Um... It's evil?
[07:30] <Daskreech> gyyrog: sounds excessive
[07:30] <Wished_M> robbiethe no but its not compatible with other versions
[07:30] <Wished_M> robbiethe which version ur using ?
[07:30] <robbiethe1st> I'm not. I've got a MSN account running through Pidgin
[07:31] <cdbs> Wished_M: you can use Exaile
[07:31] <gyyrog> Daskreech: thats what I think
[07:31] <maco> Fausto: what notification?
[07:31] <maco> foxjazz: larger than 4gb?
[07:31] <maco> Fausto: i suspect there's a plugin that lets you turn off join/part messages
[07:31] <gyyrog> what do I do?
[07:31] <robbiethe1st> But -never- will I use that crap product from MS
[07:31] <cdbs> Wished_M: no wait
[07:31] <v_v> Hello, i am using 9.04 , whe i compile thread programs the error what i get is .. thread.h: No such file or directory so plz tell me the steps
[07:32] <Wished_M> what is exaile ?
[07:32] <tsimpson> v_v: use pthreads.h
[07:32] <tim_> sardonyx, command not found?
[07:32] <tim_> sacarlson, command not found?
[07:33] <cdbs> Wished_M: use emesene
[07:33] <cdbs> Wished_M: emesene.org
[07:33] <Wished_M> what is emsene man ?
[07:33] <Wished_M> u can open cam via it ?
[07:34] <Chipzzz> tim_: this should help you out: http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?messageID=228274
[07:34] <cdbs> Wished_M: I think so, go to emesene.org
[07:34] <tim_> Chipzzz, thanks
[07:34] <Chipzzz> :)
[07:34] <tsimpson> v_v: * pthread.h (and compile with -pthread)
[07:34] <Wished_M> where are people from in this channel
[07:35] <ruffy> can any1 help me why gEdit is not working on my xxxxxxxxxxxxubuntu
[07:35] <Wished_M> approx
[07:35] <n2diy> jack, you still here? I just tried to install adobe flash on chrome, and it won't, it thinks seamonkey is still running
[07:35] <SoftTimur> hello all, I want to install OpenOffice on my machine, while downloading the installation sets, I am not sure which Linux I have: Linux32-bit Intel RPM/Linux32-bit Intel DEB/Linux 64-bit x86-64  RPM/Linux 64-bit x86-64 DEB... does anyone know how to check that?
[07:35] <sacarlson> tim_: oh I guess it needs to be installed http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/get-build-deps.1.html  so maybe install ubuntu-dev-tools_0.30_all
[07:35] <maco> Fausto: other clients (that are actually specially made for irc) allow you to make those either hidden or dimmed out so that they're easy to ignore and just read chatter but can still be read if you're trying to figure out at what point someone disappeared
[07:35] <robbiethe1st> Soft: run "uname -a" in a terminal.
[07:35] <tsimpson> SoftTimur: OpenOffice comes pre-installed in Ubuntu
[07:35] <Chipzzz> ruffy: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gedit
[07:35] <ruffy> ty chipz
[07:36] <Chipzzz> :)
[07:36] <sacarlson> tim_:  it's just java so maybe there are other tools to install dependancies?
[07:36] <SoftTimur> tsimpson: I type openoffice to launch it?
[07:36] <robbiethe1st> soft: also, yea, you shouldn't need to install manually
[07:37] <robbiethe1st> Soft: Once it's installed, it should be in your start-menu
[07:37] <tsimpson> SoftTimur: it should be in your applications menu
[07:38] <ruffy> i dont know what im doing wrong sudo gedit/etc/samba/smb.conf does not work
[07:38] <SoftTimur> tsimpson: indeed, thank you
[07:38] <ruffy> i tried reisntalling gedit already
[07:38] <tsimpson> ruffy: you gksudo rather than sudo
[07:38] <tsimpson> *use
[07:38] <ruffy> thanks
[07:38] <tsimpson> and put a space after "gedit"
[07:39] <ruffy> awesome guys thanks alot
[07:40] <Chipzzz> ruffy: you need a space between gedit and /
[07:40] <inainu> hy
[07:41] <ruffy> chipzz thank i got it to work
[07:41] <Chipzzz> :0
[07:41] <Chipzzz> :)
[07:41] <sacarlson> tim_:  I thought so all that is need to install dependency is sudo apt-get build-dep vuze
[07:43] <tim_> sacarlson, ok thats chugging along now. I'll let you know if it works
[07:43] <psyklown> i did a clean install of 10.10. i had 10.04 previously and now my broadcom wireless doesnt work. any help?
[07:44] <kothaguy_Ubuntu1> hi frnds
[07:45] <elky> psyklown, are you able to plug in to an ethernet cable?
[07:45] <psyklown> elky yes
[07:45] <Chipzzz> psyklown: does the card show up in lspci?
[07:46] <elky> psyklown, ok then do that, and then go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers. When you get there, you want the STA driver.
[07:46] <ruffy> does anyone know whats the difference between sudo and gksudo command besides the obvious spelling
[07:46] <g0r33k> Hi everyone, is it possible to detach a screen session on an ssh computer and reattach it to my current computer (i.e. the computer I logged into ssh from)?
[07:46] <psyklown> elky yeah sta is installed and active.
[07:46] <tsimpson> !gksudo | ruffy
[07:47] <tsimpson> g0r33k: no
[07:47] <elky> psyklown, which particular broadcom is it?
[07:47] <ruffy> i see awesome help guys thnks alot
[07:47] <Chipzzz> ruffy: gksudo is for the gk desktop... the recommend it but I've not had a problem using them interchangeably
[07:47] <g0r33k> tsimpson: okay thanks
[07:47] <ohsix> screen -x 4 lyf
[07:48] <psyklown> elky Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[07:48] <sunil> ubottu:Thanx...helpfull
[07:48] <psyklown> elky i mean xubuntu, ubuntu, lubuntu .04 all work, but any of those 10.10 no go
[07:48] <n2diy> jack_, you still here? I just tried to install adobe flash on chrome, and it won't, it thinks seamonkey is still running
[07:50] <Chipzzz> psyklown: do you know which driver they were using in the previous versions & is it installed in your 10.10?
[07:50] <psyklown> chipzzz  yeah i used sta
[07:51] <Chipzzz> psyklown: does the card show up in lspci?
[07:51] <psyklown> chipzzz yep. Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[07:51] <Chipzzz> psyklown: but no module in lsmod?
[07:52] <ruffy> ive mounted a share folder to share with my windows vista, but what im trying to  do really is establish anetwork path shortcut between 2 OS how doi do that any1??
[07:52] <jimlovell777> I've been following guides for hours and can't figure this out... I'm using ntop as an rflow collector for dd-wrt on port 2055. Problem is, its not receiving data. ntop works to monitor traffic on my computer but not my whole network. Do I need to open port 2055 or is that automatic?
[07:53] <psyklown> chipzzz what do you mean? what i get when i do lsmod?
[07:54] <iflema> psyklown: its attempting to use the b43 driver now yeah?? remove the b43 driver and install the STA option, if you dont see it in additional drivers install bcmwl-kernel-source package and then try agin with the additional drivers...
[07:54] <Chipzzz> psyklown: yes, the driver module should show up in lsmod
[07:55] <psyklown> iflema i already have the sta option installed and active. like i did in .04 doesnt work. that is why im here. not sure why it isnt working. everything seems to be the same as it was in .04 its just not working for some reason.
[07:56] <magnetron> hi, often ssh to a shell server where i run irssi and tcsh in screen. how do i make tcsh update the screen hardstatus line with something useful? how can i make the remote screen session update my gnome-terminal window title?
[07:56] <Chipzzz> psyklown: is the sta module showing up in lsmod?
[07:56] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: i m tryin' to play a game tremulous , but it hangs many time,everytime i have to restart my system. Is there anyway to getout of a game without restarting
[07:56] <iflema> psyklown: in te release notes for 10.10 theres an issue with 4312 adapters being prompted to install b43
[07:57] <a123456789> there
[07:57] <psyklown> chipzzz im not sure. i dont see anything referring to it in lsmod. is there a specific place to look in lsmod?
[07:57] <Chipzzz> iflema: he could blacklist the module
[07:57] <mycosys>  thauriswulfatry ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal
[07:57] <mycosys> or ssh in
[07:57] <ryansmith> I just bought a Giada N3 cube and have configured everything except for the audio, which seems not to work. The only thing I get to output is HDMI in stereo, but 5.1 sound doesn't seem to work at all. Does anyone know how to enable this?
[07:57] <Gambit-> anyone here build livecd's from scratch?
[07:57] <Chipzzz> psyklown: lsmod | grep sta
[07:58] <psyklown> iflema so dont use sta and use the other b43 option? seems like i tried that also and it failed
[07:58] <iflema> Chipzzz: sta = wl  b43 = b43 ssb
[07:59] <iflema> psyklown: no, prompted for the b43 instead of STA... your case??
[07:59] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569528/
[07:59] <psyklown> iflema it preinstalled sta when i installed ubuntu do i use the other option?
[08:00] <psyklown> chipzzz when i do that nothing comes up if i put that in commandline exactly as you typed it
[08:00] <iflema> psyklown: whats the output of   lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[08:01] <psyklown> iflema Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[08:01] <Chipzzz> psyklown: it looks like you're using the b43 module, which iflema says is ng...
[08:01] <iflema> psyklown: 1min
[08:02] <iflema> psyklown: STA should be the one...
[08:03] <psyklown> iflema lol yeah i know right. it worked in 10.04 just like i have it now. i have no idea whats goin on.
[08:03] <iflema> psyklown: wth atleast support for b/g
[08:04] <psyklown> iflema i have came with this before to irc and no one was able to figure it out. i thought i might give it another go and it seems to still do the same thing.
[08:04] <Chipzzz> psyklown: try typing dmesg | grep b43
[08:05] <iflema> psyklown: check to see if b43 is blacklisted... have you been doing much in the way of manual fixing??
[08:05] <psyklown> iflema no.
[08:05] <psyklown> chipzzz i get nothing
[08:06] <Chipzzz> psyklown: how about dmesg | grep sta ?
[08:06] <psyklown> iflema i mean... im not sure how to check if its black listed and no i have done no manual fixing
[08:06] <iflema> psyklown: hangon i cant remember where the blacklist file is :)\
[08:07] <psyklown> chipzzz yes i get a chuck of text with that
[08:07] <iflema> psyklown: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   ??
[08:08] <Chipzzz> psyklown: so you probably are using the sta module... what does lshw have to say about your network?
[08:08] <psyklown> iflema alright im in modprobe.d what exactly should i do?
[08:10] <psyklown> chipzzz i get a large chunk of text with that.
[08:11] <Chipzzz> psyklown: the interesting part is the network stuff... type "lshw | less" so that you can scroll through it with your arrow keys
[08:12] <iflema> psyklown ive no gui and no ubuntu =/ atm
[08:13] <psyklown> chipzzz yeah what exactly should i paste from the *-network part?
[08:14] <sacarlson> tim_ I notice one more thing that they now have a 64bit version of vuze.  maybe you downloaded the 64bit?
[08:15] <sacarlson> tim_:  note the two downloads here http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php  I wonder what you picked?
[08:15] <Chipzzz> psyklown: just check that there are a dozen or so lines and the driver is the sta
[08:17] <sacarlson> tim_:  what is the name of the download package you downloaded?
[08:17] <thauriswulfa> does anybody know of a dock for xubuntu
[08:17] <Chipzzz> psyklown: (also, check and make sure it 'looks right'... wireless interface, capabilities, etc...)
[08:18] <ruan> dock?
[08:18] <psyklown> chipzzz well one part says drver=wl0 is that it?
[08:19] <psyklown> chipzzz is it okay to just post a public dropbox link of a screenshot?
[08:19] <thauriswulfa> ruan:yeah
[08:19] <Chipzzz> psyklown: good idea
[08:19] <tim_> sacarlson, Vuze_Installer.tar.bz2
[08:19] <tim_> Should I give the other file a try?
[08:20] <psyklown> chipzzz alright it will only take me a second to dl and install dropbox. my connection is pretty fast
[08:20] <Chipzzz> psyklown: no hurry... I'll be here
[08:20] <ryansmith> does anyone know where I can find log files for ALSA and PulseAudio?
[08:20] <ryansmith> googling produces no results for me
[08:20] <tim_> sacarlson, no difference
[08:22] <iflema> psyklown: in the bug report for the release notes concerning your model of wifi, one individual said he reinstalled and did not select to update during install and his wifi worked? did you select to update during the install?
[08:22] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569533/
[08:23] <iflema> psyklown: he reinstalled ubnutu i mean ^^
[08:23] <psyklown> iflema yes, but i have done it without before also. i had thought of that prior
[08:23] <iflema> psyklown: goodone
[08:23] <iflema> psyklown: or bad :\
[08:24] <psyklown> iflema what?
[08:24] <Chipzzz> psyklown: This might be the solution:
[08:24] <Chipzzz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1620585
[08:25] <sacarlson> tim_: that's a total different name then I see here http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/files/vuze/Vuze_4602/Vuze_4602_linux.tar.bz2/download  so did you try this one? Vuze_4602_linux.tar.bz2
[08:25] <psyklown> chipzzz i guess i should try that
[08:25] <Chipzzz> psyklown: it sounds like it should work in this instance
[08:26] <psyklown> chipzzz so just go to synaptic remove that installer and install the one he suggested int he same session?
[08:26] <JoeCoolLinux> Why does only one hard drive show in my computer?
[08:26] <ruan> JoeCoolLinux: you need to mount the rest
[08:27] <Chipzzz> psyklown: yes... reinstall ipphy if it is already installed
[08:27] <JoeCoolLinux> They're not available to be mounted
[08:27] <ruan> JoeCoolLinux: did you get the right names to mount them?
[08:27] <psyklown> chipzzz i do not have that firmware-b43-installer installed
[08:27] <ruan> JoeCoolLinux: from sudo fdisk -l
[08:27] <JoeCoolLinux> Not on disk manager
[08:27] <tim_> sacarlson, no, i'll try that
[08:27] <psyklown> chipzzz should i just go ahead and install that b43-lpphy-installer anyway?
[08:28] <JoeCoolLinux> That command shows one disk, ruan
[08:28] <JoeCoolLinux> Is it possible I need drivers for my SATA III controller?
[08:28] <Chipzzz> psyklown: it looks like that should do it
[08:29] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: how many disks are in your system in total ?
[08:29] <psyklown> chipzzz alright should i disable my sta driver?
[08:29] <JoeCoolLinux> Three.  2 1TBs, one 750 which has NTFS errors I'm on a LiveCD to fix
[08:29] <JoeCoolLinux> 1 of the 1TB is uninitialized.  The other is the Win boot disk
[08:29] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: can you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[08:30] <JoeCoolLinux> http://pastebin.com/3mwNjnUA
[08:30] <Chipzzz> psyklown: no, keep that one
[08:31] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, does the 3rd (second 1TB disk) hang off a different controller than the other two ?
[08:31] <bullgard> The metapackage ubuntu-desktop depends on the package smbclient. How can I modify the metapackage ubuntu-desktop so that it no longer depends on smbclient?
[08:31] <ikonia> bullgard: you can't
[08:31] <JoeCoolLinux> Probably does.  I think my system has a couple sata 3Gb and a couple 2Gbs
[08:31] <bullgard> ikonia: I take notice.
[08:31] <extra11> ubuntu 10.10 is nice :)
[08:31] <psyklown> chipzzz alrighty. i just installed it. guess ill restart and come back here. cya in a bit
[08:31] <Chipzzz> gl
[08:32] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: 2 couples = 4 disks, you just said it had 3 disks
[08:32] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I need you to be exact
[08:32] <JoeCoolLinux> Couple SATA ports, as in like 50
[08:32] <JoeCoolLinux> I only have three disks
[08:32] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, so I'll ask again, do all disks hang off the same controller, or different controllers ?
[08:32] <Yerushalmi> Hey, does anyone know what package is responsible for creating the Unity desktop in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, 10.04? It apparently went kablooie on me and I need to reinstall it
[08:33] <JoeCoolLinux> I'm thinking it has to be two different controllers
[08:33] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: not "has to be" open the box and look if you don't know
[08:33] <JoeCoolLinux> I'm not going to download the circuit diagram
[08:34] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: you don't need to download the circuit design, just open the box and look if it is one controller or two connecting your disks
[08:34] <JoeCoolLinux> There were vertical plugs and horizontal plugs
[08:34] <ruan> !ide > ruan
[08:34] <bloodboy> i don't understand the decision to make the GUI of Ubuntu 11.04 onwards to Unity
[08:34] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: that doesn't mean anything, I need to know
[08:34] <bloodboy> Unity sucks and is meant for netbooks
[08:34] <ikonia> bloodboy: off topic here, try #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <JoeCoolLinux> boot disk is in the plane with the mobo and the other disks are vertical
[08:34] <psyklown> chipzzz sadface :(
[08:35] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, so the boot disks, which are they (sizes)
[08:35] <Chipzzz> :((
[08:35] <JoeCoolLinux> One boot disk, 1TB
[08:35] <Chipzzz> double sadface!
[08:35] <Chipzzz> what happened?
[08:35] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, we get it, please stop
[08:35] <JoeCoolLinux> 1 new uninitialized, 1TB.  1 corrupted NTFS, 750
[08:35] <psyklown> chipzzz lol nothing
[08:35] <psyklown> chipzzz just showed up like it always does only with no wireless
[08:35] <JoeCoolLinux> I want to copy the corrupted NTFS one to the uninitialized 1TB
[08:36] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, so that makes sense, Linux can see your local on board disk controller, but not your additional controller
[08:36] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: that should be straight forward enough
[08:37] <Chipzzz> Psyklown: do you have firmware-b43-lpphy-installer installed?
[08:37] <psyklown> chipzzz yep
[08:38] <sacarlson> tim_: just tested that link to Vuze_4602_linux.tar.bz2 here on my ubuntu 10.04 32bit desktop , just uncompressed and came up fine with cd to dir and ./vuze
[08:38] <psyklown> chipzzz installed it right before i restarted. only thing was i didnt have that original "bf3-firmware" installed like the fore mentioned guy did.
[08:38] <tim_> sacarlson, ok I'm testing now
[08:39] <Chipzzz> psyklown: how old is the broadcomm?
[08:39] <psyklown> chipzzz lol idk.
[08:39] <JoeCoolLinux> What would I use for disk imaging on the LiveCD?
[08:40] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: it really depends what your end goal is
[08:40] <tim_> sacarlson, perfext!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:40] <psyklown> chipzzz that post you sent before... he had b43-firmware installed. maybe try installing that and uninstalling that lpphy one?
[08:40] <JoeCoolLinux> I want a 1:1 disk image of the corrupted drive to the new uninitialized drive
[08:41] <sacarlson> tim_ you must have been trying to run the 64bit version
[08:41] <tim_> thank you times infinity
[08:41] <Chipzzz> psyklown: maybe it wants the latest driver, as suggested in the 4th post...
[08:41] <JoeCoolLinux> So I can run chkdisk on the new 1TB
[08:41] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: what's stopping you running it on the existing disk ?
[08:41] <Chipzzz> psyklown (hybrid-portsrc_x86-32_v5.60.246.6.tar.gz)
[08:41] <JoeCoolLinux> It was deleting some files and I want the option of recovery
[08:41] <psyklown> chipzzz but then how was 10.04 working with something older than tha?
[08:42] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok but what's stopping that from happening now ?
[08:42] <JoeCoolLinux> And it's no big deal to copy it since I was backing it up onto the new drive anyway
[08:42] <JoeCoolLinux> Stopping what from happening, ikonia?
[08:42] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: stopping you from running chkdsk on it now
[08:42] <JoeCoolLinux> chdisk was going to delete some files and I'm not comfortable with that
[08:42] <Chipzzz> psyklown: *shrugs* dunno...
[08:43] <JoeCoolLinux> I was just going to copy the drive to the new drive anyway, might as well do it this way and be safe.
[08:44] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: normally I'd suggest doing this by mounting the disks and copying the data across that way, a disk "image" in my view isn't good as the two drives are different sizes/layouts
[08:44] <psyklown> chipzzz gonna try somethin brb
[08:44] <Chipzzz> gl
[08:44] <JoeCoolLinux> Well, how should I do it, ikonia?
[08:44] <Yerushalmi> Does anyone know what package is responsible for creating the Unity desktop in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, 10.04? It apparently went kablooie on me and I need to reinstall it
[08:45] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: if you can, mount the two disks, copy the data, use the windows install cd to put the mbr back on the new disk
[08:45] <janhouse> Can anyone suggest dock that keeps icons on different workspaces separated?
[08:45] <JoeCoolLinux> Corrupted NTFS, ikonia
[08:45] <JoeCoolLinux> Can't mount
[08:46] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: then I wouldn't suggest doing it
[08:46] <JoeCoolLinux> Doing what?
[08:46] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: cloning the disk under linux
[08:46] <JoeCoolLinux> Why not?
[08:46] <tim_> sacarlson, now how do I get this into my programs list?
[08:46] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: because the two disks are different sizes and geometries
[08:47] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: therefore a block level copy is not something I'd suggest
[08:47] <JoeCoolLinux> Then what are my options?
[08:47] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: the guys in ##windows may have tools to assist or advise you, there may also be 3rd party tools that I'm not aware of
[08:47] <JoeCoolLinux> I was just in there and they said to do a disk clone and I agreed with them
[08:48] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, but Linux will do a block level disk clone, and I wouldn't advise that as your disks are different sizes and geom's
[08:48] <robbiethe1st> You can try cloning things one partition at a time, then resize the partition with gparted
[08:48] <JoeCoolLinux> How do I do a partition clone, then?
[08:48] <sacarlson> tim_: just right click on Applications pick a place and add
[08:49] <robbiethe1st> so make a partition the same size as your old partition, dd the data from the old to the new.. what I'd do.
[08:49] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: gparted has a nice "copy/paste" feature that many peopld don't know about
[08:49] <JoeCoolLinux> dd isn't block-level?
[08:49] <ikonia> I disagree with that as the partition may be the same size but the blocks will be different as the disk is different sizes
[08:49] <robbiethe1st> Yes, it is
[08:49] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: you literally select the partition to copy, press copy, highlight the disk to copy to and click paste
[08:49] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: dd is block level
[08:49] <tim_> sacarlson, what is the path?
[08:49] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: the gparted copy/paste copes with disks of different sizes :)
[08:49] <tim_> its in home/.vuze
[08:50] <sacarlson> tim_: depends on where you put it when you uncompressed it
[08:50] <sacarlson> tim_: for me it's presently at: /home/sacarlson/Downloads/vuze/vuze
[08:51] <tim_> sacarlson, yep its the same
[08:51] <tim_> sacarlson, thanks
[08:52] <ikonia> popey: when gparted copies the partition does it do it at a block level or a file system level ?
[08:52] <popey> ikonia: it doesnt do dd if that's what you're asking :)
[08:52] <JoeCoolLinux> popey, it says the destination is smaller than the source
[08:52] <JoeCoolLinux> When it has another 300 some gigs
[08:52] <gaelfx> I'm having a problem with pretty sketchy playback in SMPlayer using vdpau. I have desktop effects all disabled, but it's still pretty jerky/laggy
[08:52] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: :( It worked last time I used it :(
[08:52] <ikonia> popey: not quite, just curious if it did it at a block level or file system
[08:52] <popey> I dont know, it just seemed magic
[08:53] <ikonia> ha
[08:53] <ikonia> popey: just reading the doc on it ( I always thougth it was file system level) and it's a bit unclear
[08:53] <popey> yeah, I'm not sure how it works
[08:54] <popey> i think it uses some nt cli util to actually do the copy
[08:54] <tim_> sacarlson, thanks again
[08:54] <popey> s/nt/ntfs/
[08:54] <ikonia> if it's block level JoeCoolLinux is sorted, if it's file system (which is what I thought) it's not going to work
[08:55] <JoeCoolLinux> I either need an NTFS library or something, it says the destination is smaller than the source
[08:55] <Yerushalmi> Does anyone know what package is responsible for creating the Unity-style desktop in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, 10.04? It apparently went kablooie on me and I need to reinstall it
[08:55] <popey> sorry if my suggestion wasnt helpful :S
[08:55] <ikonia> popey: if it does it at a block level, it's super helpful
[08:55] <JoeCoolLinux> Yerushalmi, wasn't it just unity-desktop?
[08:56] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: try reinstalling unity-desktop
[08:56] <gaelfx> haha
[08:56] <sacarlson> tim_: no problem have fun
[08:57] <mickster04> hey guys. I installed 10.10 64bit on a pc with windows 7 on it. I only ever get to some kind of post-grub console. sumat about it not finding the installation? is it likely to be the disk image or something in the install that breaks that
[08:57] <psyklown> chipzzz im pretty confident that when dante entered the inferno, that broadcom was somewhere within the 9th level of hell
[08:58] <ikonia> psyklown: can we keep the silly stuff out of the channel please.
[08:58] <JoeCoolLinux> I think it might be file system level
[08:58] <Chipzzz> psyklown: :))) big happy face! look what I found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:58] <JoeCoolLinux> Because it can't open the NTFS because it's corrupted
[08:58] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I thought it was too, but that doesn't mean I'm right
[08:58] <psyklown> ikonia trust me. there is nothing silly about broadcom
[08:59] <ikonia> psyklown: please, enough
[08:59] <Guest70310> can anybody tell me hot to install opera by source please
[09:00] <JoeCoolLinux> Isn't Opera closed-source?
[09:00] <psyklown> ikonia do you know how to solve the broadcom problem?
[09:00] <ikonia> psyklown: not been following the issue
[09:00] <psyklown> ikonia alrighty
[09:00] <JoeCoolLinux> Alright, ikonia, how do I do a block-level copy to the new drive?
[09:00] <Guest70310> nop why did you think that
[09:01] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I'd really advise against it
[09:01] <JoeCoolLinux> You just said it was the way to go in gparted
[09:02] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: no I didn't,
[09:02] <hyperzap> simple question: In bash, if I launch something (for example telnet) how do I then escape telnet and go back to bash??? (im talkin terminal, ubuntu)
[09:02] <JoeCoolLinux> ikonia 02/20/2011 08:54:26 AM
[09:02] <JoeCoolLinux> if it's block level JoeCoolLinux is sorte
[09:03] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: yes, as gparted can deal with the different disk sizes as popey suggested
[09:03] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: as it appears to be file system rather than block level, it's not an option
[09:03] <gaelfx> hyperzap: 'exit' or 'quit' or 'ctrl+c'
[09:03] <Yerushalmi> JoeCoolLinux, gaelfx : I don't see "unity-desktop" on my list of installed packages
[09:03] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: check in Synaptic Package Manager
[09:03] <hyperzap> gaelfx: Thanks, I always have the issue where It goes into a process and I have to close terminal and fire up again to get it to accept bash commands again
[09:04] <gaelfx> hyperzap: not a problem
[09:04] <hyperzap> gaelfx: 'quit' doesnt work
[09:04] <psyklown> chipzzz so am i going to have to go with ndiswrapper?
[09:04] <gaelfx> hyperzap: yeah, I can't remember all of the right ways to do things, so I just list as many as possible til one sticks
[09:05] <gaelfx> kinda like cooking pasta I guess
[09:05] <hyperzap> lol ok, thanks anyway. Its hard getting into linux but i want to do it. Everyone I know tells me to get rid of gnome
[09:06] <Chipzzz> psyclown: I would back up and start from the beginning on that page...
[09:06] <JoeCoolLinux> ikonia, so what are my options?  Can I not do a block level anyway and then worry about resizing it?
[09:06] <JoeCoolLinux> What's the big deal
[09:07] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: because block level will depend on the partition table, which is based of the disk layout of the old disk
[09:07] <gaelfx> hyperzap: yeah, some people prefer other desktop managers, but I've never had a big problem with Gnome. KDE is pretty, but it just doesn't jive with me
[09:07] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: there are 3rd party tools (something like norton ghost ?) that maybe able to do it better
[09:07] <JoeCoolLinux> Spinright?
[09:07] <JoeCoolLinux> How about if I made like an ISO image of it on the new drive?
[09:07] <ikonia> no idea, the guys in ##windows may know the tools better
[09:08] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: It's not there.
[09:08] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: what would you do with it then ?
[09:08] <Venub> just completed ubuntu 10.04 LTS installation and while updating my PC was powered of accidently, now i get at the starting a menu to choose the user and nothing responds. Tried the recovery mode and got nothing. Is there another way to recover the system ?
[09:08] <JoeCoolLinux> I don't know\
[09:08] <ikonia> ok, so pointless
[09:08] <hyperzap> gaelfx: yea im sticking to gnome. The issue for me ATM is if I download some sample c++ code and compile, it never compiles correctly. You would think it would Its always whininh bout something. Normally functions in default libraries
[09:08] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: then do a search just for unity
[09:09] <gaelfx> hyperzap: it's been too long since I've done any coding, I can't really help with that :P
[09:09] <JoeCoolLinux> Am I risking anything by just running the chdisk on the drive itself?/
[09:09] <psyklown> chipzzz not sure what you mean. it just shows how to identify your card at the top of the page. then on down it says to install bcmwl-kernel-source which i already have installed
[09:09] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I don't know, ask the guys in ##windows
[09:09] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: That's what I did. The only one that comes up is gnome-themes-extras, which isn't installed.
[09:09] <JoeCoolLinux> They don't know
[09:10] <hyperzap> too much coding is bad for the mind, but too little is bad for the spirit :D
[09:10] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: neither do we, this is Ubuntu, not Windows support, the guys in ##windows are more experienced and best placed to answer
[09:10] <hyperzap> THIS IS WHAT I DO: http://xkcd.com/356/
[09:11] <hyperzap> valentines day: http://xkcd.com/316/
[09:11] <JoeCoolLinux> http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz348/CarefullyWovenPhotography/Okay.png
[09:11] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: hang on a sec
[09:11] <ikonia> hyperzap: please keep that stuff out of the channel
[09:11] <hyperzap> sorry
[09:11] <ikonia> hyperzap: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, not coding chat, silly pictures, etc
[09:12] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: same to you, don't need pictures please
[09:12] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: you said you're using 10.04?
[09:12] <openbees> heloo beeses of openworld
[09:12] <Chipzzz> psyklown: *groans* I guess you're right... on to the ndis wrapper section
[09:13] <Venub> just completed ubuntu 10.04 LTS installation and while updating my PC was powered of accidently, now i get at the starting a menu to choose the user and nothing responds. Tried the recovery mode and got nothing. Is there another way to recover the system ?
[09:13] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: you might also search for "Desktop" and see if anything there looks promising
[09:13] <psyklown> chipzzz lol that really sucks because i have no idea how to use ndiswrapper
[09:13] <overclucker> hyperzap: think i've been reading too much manga, i didn't get those jokes(turns out i was read right to left . . .)
[09:15] <Chipzzz> psyklown: well... the instructions look pretty thorough... you'll probably know before long :)
[09:16] <JoeCoolLinux> You're saying I can't do a bitwise image?
[09:16] <dxy> is there ubuntu for AMD64 i want to install it in my msi wind u210
[09:16] <Guest70310> for opera which do i pick to download tar.bz2 or tar.gz
[09:16] <Cradam> hi i installed ubuntu using unetbootin and it has only put 4 files onto my usb none of them bigger than 1KB
[09:16] <nautilus_bug> hello
[09:16] <vickyandro|2> pls someone help to recover my ubuntu. I install windows after ubuntu
[09:17] <openbees> psyklown: use this (link http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide)
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> dxy, you just get the x86-64 version, that'll give you 64bit
[09:17] <Guest70310> for opera which do i pick to download tar.bz2 or tar.gz
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> !grub2| vickyandro|2
[09:17] <dxy> alright
[09:17] <dxy> psycho_oreos: does it support amd?
[09:17] <psyklown> chipzzz lol yeah looks like ill have my hands full for while. atleast if i get this down ill be able to sail through the upgrades
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> dxy, it should for most parts yes
[09:18] <gaelfx> dxy: yes, it's supports AMD
[09:18] <psyklown> openbees thanks
[09:18] <overclucker> !64 | dxy
[09:18] <Cradam> vickyandro|2, u have to run gparted off of a ubuntu live cd, if the linux install is still there then u have to run a grub config under a live cd
[09:18] <psyklown> chipzzz appreciate the help. ill let you know if it works. assuming i dont get frustrated and quit.
[09:18] <nautilus_bug> After I mount an image using "sudo mount -t udf -o loop SOME.iso /media/SOMEFOLDER"  I unmout using "sudo umount /media/SOMEFOLDER" but Nautilus keeps showing the mounted image BUT IT'S NOT
[09:18] <nautilus_bug> help
[09:18] <Guest70310> for opera which do i pick to download tar.bz2 or tar.gz
[09:18] <overclucker> I just installed x86_64 a week ago to make use of my 8G of ram
[09:19] <Chipzzz> openbees: great article! thanks
[09:19] <Cradam> Guest70310, either
[09:19] <overclucker> it's been wonderful
[09:19] <nautilus_bug> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[09:19] <nautilus_bug> what does this mean
[09:19] <Guest70310> cradam can you show me how to install it
[09:19] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: ah, I see. Unity wasn't used until 10.10, so you want to find the package called "ubuntu-netbook-remix" I think
[09:19] <Chipzzz> psyklown: thank you... I'm rooting for you :)
[09:19] <nautilus_bug> After I mount an image using "sudo mount -t udf -o loop SOME.iso /media/SOMEFOLDER"  I unmout using "sudo umount /media/SOMEFOLDER" but Nautilus keeps showing the mounted image BUT IT'S NOT >>> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[09:19] <Cradam> no i can not but there should be something easier in either synaptic package manager or in ubuntu software centre
[09:20] <overclucker> nautilus_bug: try -t iso9660
[09:20] <nautilus_bug> overclucker: it's a DVD image
[09:20] <dxy> overclucker: i downloaded the ubuntu-10.10-netbook-i386.iso is this ok?
[09:20] <nautilus_bug> overclucker: the problem is nautilus that keeps showing the unmounted image. bug?
[09:21] <Venub> netbook is for netbooks make sure you aren't using it with desktop
[09:21] <overclucker> dxy: netbooks are all 32bit
[09:21] <Cradam> Venub, u can easily use netbook edition with a desktop
[09:21] <mickster04> overclucker: well 32 work son 64bit so it's safe
[09:21] <openbees> guest70310: i not getting any such option during downloading , just download from opera official site it will autometicaly detect ur system ...and will give u path for .deb package
[09:22] <dxy> overclucker: thanks
[09:22] <Guest70310> openbees can you just send it to me
[09:22] <nautilus_bug> ^ ^
[09:23] <Venub> Cradam, i the first time made this (noobie). I didn't realize it but why someone need a netbook edition on a desktop ? (and still noobie)
[09:23] <gaelfx> guess he's out to lunch
[09:24] <Cradam> they wouldnt need it but its good for touchscreen all in one desktops
[09:24] <openbees> Guest70310:choose your flavor and download    from this link http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[09:24] <gaelfx> Venub: they don't need it, but I imagine it's pretty handy for testing how an app might work on a netbook
[09:25] <openbees> is netbook is usefull for laptops??
[09:25] <psyklown> chipzzz on sourceforge i see all the way up to 4311 but no 4312 look elsewhere?
[09:26] <Guest70310> i aint getting the debian file its just tar.bz2 and and tar.gz
[09:26] <gaelfx> Guest70310: it shouldn't make a difference which one of those you get
[09:27] <Guest70310> how do i install it by source
[09:28] <gaelfx> there should be a readme in there once you decompress the file
[09:28] <openbees> guest70310:  thats the problem with tar.bz2 and tar.gz  ....coz only diffrence in them is compressing methonds of file
[09:28] <openbees> guest70310: on that link i am redirected to download .def file. it works fine for me
[09:29] <gaelfx> but my incilination is to say, intending no offense towards you, that perhaps you don't want to build it from source if you're not sure which file to get between a gz and bz2
[09:29] <DexterLB> hello. I'm trying to tunnel my X through ssh into windoze with putty. I've done all the needed settings but still I get Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[09:29] <DexterLB> any ideas?
[09:30] <openbees> gaelfx: exactely ...thats why i am forcing him/her to download .deb file
[09:30] <ikonia> DexterLB: you can't do that, Windows doesn't have an X11 display engine
[09:30] <gaelfx> meh, you can't make choices for people, you can only give them sugggestions
[09:30] <ikonia> DexterLB: and the OS is called "Windows"
[09:31] <DexterLB> ikonia: hmmmmm I've seen it done..
[09:31] <ikonia> DexterLB: yes, you need an X11 server on your windows machine
[09:31] <magnetron> ikonia: there's xming which is a X11R6 implementation for windows
[09:31] <openbees> guest70310: on my given link try with default package on option of package format
[09:31] <ikonia> magnetron: I'm aware there are ones, but unless he's installed one and set it up, it's not going to work
[09:31] <sss> I installed LAMP. How do I host PHP pages?
[09:31] <DexterLB> ikonia: ah. so I need an X server on both sides?
[09:31] <magnetron> ikonia: yeah, i didn't follow the conversation
[09:32] <ikonia> sss: did you read the documentation I gave you
[09:32] <ikonia> DexterLB: correct
[09:32] <mickster04> sss: read the manual thru
[09:32] <ikonia> magnetron: not a problem
[09:32] <sss> okinia, the Sever Guide?
[09:32] <openbees> sss: placed ur pages on /var/www
[09:32] <ikonia> sss: yes, the one you've been asked to read 3 times
[09:32] <Guest70310> nop sorry that doesnt work either
[09:33] <openbees> sss: simply place ur pages on /var/www an type on browser /localhost/filename
[09:33] <magnetron> hi, I often ssh to a shell server where i run irssi and tcsh in screen. how do i make tcsh update the screen hardstatus line with something useful? how can i make the remote screen session update my gnome-terminal window title?
[09:34] <sss> openbees, I doesn't process the PHP, it just gives the file as is for download
[09:34] <openbees> guest70310: then either you are kidding or its matter of bug on opera official site
[09:34] <ikonia> magnetron: I think that's done within irssi
[09:34] <ikonia> magnetron: eg: an away message screen detatched, then when someone messages you they get that message
[09:34] <openbees> sss: oh sorry you mean you are installing php
[09:34] <overclucker> DexterLB: Cygwin/X
[09:34] <sss> openbees, Isn't it installed by default with LAMP?
[09:35] <ikonia> magnetron: I think the same is possibly true of the title bar status
[09:35] <Chipzzz> sss:  this might help: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=video&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0Fvn8WOfxKY&ei=KeBgTcHTB4WClAfCxpDUCw&usg=AFQjCNGs2-VazIoPfdaZ0C1MMHyMui38Lg
[09:35] <ikonia> sss: the guide you are reading tells you what to do
[09:35] <openbees> sss: ya it is
[09:35] <ikonia> Chipzzz: he already has a guide
[09:35] <openbees> sss: then what is your exact problem?
[09:36] <gaelfx> Guest70310: are you installing on 32 bit or 64 bit?
[09:36] <sss> openbees, Doesn't process PHP file in /var/www/ , just give the PHP file as is
[09:36] <Guest70310> 64 bit why
[09:36] <magnetron> ikonia: never heard of irssi updating the gnome-terminal window title
[09:36] <Chipzzz> sss, ikonia: sorry bad link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fvn8WOfxKY ... ikonia - sounds like a video might be more useful to him
[09:37] <gaelfx> Guest70310: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-x86-64&ver=11.01&local=y
[09:37] <openbees> sss: are you trying to run self made php file or sorcecode of php which u did download from official php site
[09:37] <learner> i need to update my grub menu in ubuntu 9.10, how can i do that manually, help me please.
[09:38] <gaelfx> learner: in Synaptic Package Manager, is there a backports package for grub?
[09:38] <openbees> gaelfx , guest70310: just one next page as the link given by me
[09:40] <Chipzzz> sss: I think the short answer is you need to install the php5-cgi package
[09:40] <gaelfx> learner: er, perhaps I misunderstood, you mean you want to update the menu only? Like you installed a new OS and you want it to show up in Grub?
[09:40] <sss> Chipzzz, I installed using "tasksel install lamp-server", shouldn't I already have PHP?
[09:41] <Guest70310> how come in chrome i can get it with debian
[09:41] <gaelfx> PHP puts the P in LAMP, so yeah
[09:41] <ikonia> sss: the guide you are reading tells you what to do
[09:41] <learner> anybody help me
[09:41] <learner> some body there
[09:41] <openbees> sss: then whats ur problem?
[09:41] <Guest70310> and not in firefox
[09:41] <learner> i need to update my grub menu in ubuntu 9.10, how can i do that manually, help me please.
[09:41] <ikonia> sss: is there a reason you are not reading the guide
[09:42] <gaelfx> learner: what do you mean by "update my grub menu?"
[09:42] <openbees> gaelfx: he is trying to learn
[09:43] <gaelfx> so it might appear
[09:43] <Cradam> hi is ubuntu not fully supported by unetbootin?
[09:43] <Lint> gaelfx, actually P in lamp is Perl
[09:43] <learner> gaelfx, actually i have updated my linux image many a times, so my menu of booting is quite large, its dual bootable actually. need to sort it out
[09:44] <ikonia> Lint: its not, and its offtopic
[09:44] <Chipzzz> sss: check in synaptic or apt-get and see if you have php5-cli installed... you may be surprised
[09:44] <openbees> lint: then you should update your knowledge
[09:44] <ikonia> Chipzzz: he has a guide that explains it all
[09:45] <gaelfx> Lint: http://www.lamphowto.com/
[09:45] <ikonia> gaelfx: this is offtopic, please drop it
[09:45] <thegame> hi all
[09:45] <openbees> ikonia:eactely
[09:46] <gaelfx> learner: well, there is a file that contains the menu items somewhere on your lappy, you could just edit that by hand, but there might be a better way to do it
[09:46] <openbees> exactely
[09:46] <Chipzzz> ikonia: perhaps he'd rather talk with someone about it than read about it... we all learn differently
[09:47] <ikonia> Chipzzz: he needs to follow the guide and ask questions where stuck as he wants to learn,
[09:47] <ikonia> Chipzzz: it's an official documented supported process,
[09:47] <gaelfx> learner: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4144
[09:47] <Chipzzz> *shrugs* ok
[09:47] <overclucker> sss: are you just trying to install the lamp stack?
[09:48] <sss> overclucker, yes
[09:48] <learner> gaelfx, yeah i knew it, there is a file called menu.cfg, but thing is in grub2 its being auto generated, and i cant mak eit out need some way out to do it, also i  need to make a wifi spot on my wifi that shares an internet connection, can you help me in that???
[09:48] <uuuaaammm> hi
[09:48] <ikonia> sss: are you reading the document you've been given ?
[09:48] <sss> ikonia, yes
[09:49] <ikonia> sss: what part are you up to (have you started it yet?)
[09:49] <gaelfx> learner: oops, you're using 9.10? then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:49] <sss> ikonia, It now works with html files, I am trying to run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[09:49] <gaelfx> under file structure, it talks about what you want to know
[09:50] <uuuaaammm> i've ubuntu 10.10 installed. yesterday i run system update. now after rebooting screen resolution is 1024x768
[09:51] <uuuaaammm> I can't switch back to 1280x1024. In Preferences->Monitor settings that resolution is not shown.
[09:51] <gaelfx> learner: well, to be honest, I've never been successful with creating ad-hoc wifi networks with ubuntu, but then again, I haven't tried in a coupla years
[09:51] <openbees> sss:try /localhost ...if message appears it works then apache is running fine
[09:52] <uuuaaammm> any idea how to get back to that (i'd prefer not to have to mess around with xorg.conf... :S
[09:52] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: it sounds like you need to reinstall your graphics driver
[09:52] <overclucker> openbees: it sounds like apache is up, but perhaps php isn't yet
[09:52] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: are you using the nvidia driver?
[09:52] <sss> ikonia,I restarted the apache and now I am getting 500 Internal Server Error
[09:53] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: mmm i'm not sure of that actually... :S
[09:54] <openbees> sss: open a text editer and write following code in it save it in /var/www with name as phpinfo.php "<?php phpinfo ();?>" noe on browser run /localhost/phpinfo.php
[09:54] <ikonia> sss: what URL are you browsing to
[09:54] <cdbs> sss: try sudo apache2ctl restart
[09:54] <cdbs> ikonia: the apache geek is here now :)
[09:54] <ikonia> ha
[09:54] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: well, do you have an nvidia graphics card or chip?
[09:54] <cdbs> openbees: probably he doesn't have libapache2-mod-php installed?
[09:55] <sss> ikonia, I am using another compuer to connect to the server using its IP. I have one file /var/www/index.php
[09:55] <ikonia> cdbs: this is why I'm trying to get him to follow the server guide apache/php guide
[09:55] <learner> gaelfx, hey hey. thanks man... help appreciated... also can yoy help in learning python. any online tutorials
[09:55] <cdbs> sss: do you have libapache2-mod-php installed?
[09:55] <cdbs> sss: if not, install it
[09:55] <cdbs> sss: and make sure port 80 is open (not open by default
[09:56] <cdbs> )
[09:56] <gaelfx> learner: sorry, not really my forte, but glad I could help with something!
[09:56] <Guest3985> ok
[09:56] <cdbs> sss: Once you have the port open, enter the IP address of the server on another computer's web browser
[09:56] <openbees> sss: code is (<?php phpinfo () ; ?>) are you trying this ...if message apears regarding php info then you php setup is right
[09:57] <robertzaccour> where can i download more ram?
[09:57] <sss> cdbs, It is open, I can view HTML files hosted in the server
[09:57] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: rebooting system... I'll be right back...
[09:57] <cdbs> sss: can you run php files then?
[09:57] <cdbs> sss: what is the exact problem, may I ask?
[09:58] <AegisX> Hey guys; I'm looking for an easy to use but (hopefully) powerful personal finance management suite. Any recommendations?
[09:58] <sss> cdbs, PHP file gives me 500 Server Internal Error
[09:58] <cdbs> sss: make sure you have libapache2-mod-php package installed
[09:58] <cdbs> sss: type this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php
[09:59] <cdbs> sss: at first, modify your PHP file to include this code: <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[09:59] <sss> cdbs: I used "sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 "
[09:59] <openbees> cdbs sss: i already said it
[09:59] <robertzaccour> where can i download more ram?
[09:59] <cdbs> sss: ah, then restart your server once again and re-try
[10:00] <dr0id> my ubuntu username is hello, can i change it to world ?
[10:00] <cdbs> robertzaccour: you can't download ram, you need to buy modules and install 'em
[10:00] <sss> cdbs, It works!
[10:00] <cdbs> sss: oh cool
[10:01] <sss> cdbs, thanks
[10:01] <sss> thanks all
[10:01] <dve> If I create a file in a symlink'ed folder, does that file get created in the target folder only?
[10:01] <robertzaccour> cdbs, i know just being silly. there is a funny site called downloadmoreram.com though
[10:02] <Jordan_U> !ot | robertzaccour
[10:02] <Diamondcite> dve: It should be created at the origin of the symlink.
[10:03] <openbees> dr0id: i did with ubuntu tweak
[10:03] <dve> Diamoncite: Ok thanks, so if I then delete the 'virtual' folder the newly created file will still exist at the origin
[10:03] <dr0id> openbees: some software ?
[10:03] <Diamondcite> dve: Such as.. if you symlink toast/ to bagel/ , change into bagel/ , create butter.txt, It will appear in both toast/ and bagel/
[10:03] <youngsterxyf> ubuntu tweak is very good
[10:04] <Diamondcite> dve: Deleting bagel/ in the above will not affect toast/ in any way. On the other hand.. deleting toast/ would break bagel/
[10:04] <openbees> droid: ya ....but i dont know short cut ....u can find it in your software center
[10:04] <researcher1> where do I begin to learn command line tutorial? right from basics?
[10:04] <Stevezau> dammit.. pulling my hair out here.. it shouldnt be this hard to disable a damn keyboard in X11!
[10:04] <dve> Diamoncite: mmm bagel .... thanks, just the info I needed!
[10:05] <openbees> bye guys have a good day/night
[10:06] <magnetron> Hi, how do i make irssi and/or screen update my gnome-terminal window title?
[10:06] <ikonia> magnetron: I think that's done with a irssi plugin
[10:06] <youngsterxyf> researcher1, I am reading FLOSS MANUALS, maybe it's right for you
[10:06] <researcher1> youngsterxyf: lemme try 2
[10:06] <magnetron> ikonia: ah, ok
[10:07] <magnetron> how do i make tcsh update my gnome-terminal window title, when i run it in screen?
[10:08] <ikonia> magnetron: I think it's done through the away plugin, not %100
[10:08] <ikonia> magnetron: the window title may not work with all terminal emmulators though
[10:08] <ikonia> not sure if the shell is important either as I've never read the plugin (it's perl as I recall)
[10:08] <researcher1> youngsterxyf: I think this will work well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:10] <elfranne> i am transfering files between a whole new ubuntu 10.10 install but the transfer is only 4mb/s running on 100mbps lan transfer is via sftp ... any idea why ?
[10:10] <researcher1> how to creat root user in Ubuntu?
[10:10] <elfranne> sudo passwd root
[10:10] <sunil> sudo passwd
[10:11] <ikonia> researcher1: you don't
[10:11] <ikonia> researcher1: it already exists and it's locked
[10:11] <ikonia> elfranne: please do not suggest that
[10:11] <cdbs> researcher1: its already there, you can't use it
[10:11] <ikonia> sunil: same to you
[10:11] <magnetron> elfranne: are you sure it's not 4 MB/s?
[10:11] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:11] <Diamondcite> elfranne: Which transfer method? scp? sshfs? nfs? samba?
[10:11] <cdbs> ikonia: :o ^
[10:11] <researcher1> ikonia: but I want to use it as root
[10:11] <cdbs> researcher1: use sudo to run a command as root
[10:11] <researcher1> ikonia: one software wants me to login as root
[10:11] <ikonia> researcher1: then read how to do it properly through the ubuntu security system
[10:12] <ikonia> !root > researcher1
[10:12] <researcher1> ok
[10:12] <ikonia> researcher1: which software ?
[10:12] <ikonia> !sudo > researcher1
[10:12] <cdbs> researcher1: if you want to run command 'foo' as root, run it as 'sudo foo' in the terminal
[10:12] <ikonia> researcher1: which software wants you to login as root ?
[10:12] <Gwar_Trolle> Srs Question: Why does 10.10 suck so much compared to 10.04?
[10:12] <Chipzzz> researcher1: sudo su
[10:12] <ikonia> Gwar_Trolle: that's subjective and pointless question, ask a real question to get a real asnwer
[10:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: no
[10:12] <elfranne> yes it 4 MB/s but it is still slow, you should reach around 8, sftp transfer
[10:12] <ikonia> Chipzzz: do not recommend that
[10:12] <researcher1> ikonia: when I tried to install HP printer software
[10:12] <Chipzzz> g'nite all
[10:12] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: i'm back. video card is GMA X4500 (integrated in ASUS P5G41T-M LX)
[10:13] <cdbs> researcher1: does it ask you to run make install?
[10:13] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: i'm back. video card is Intel GMA X4500 (integrated in ASUS P5G41T-M LX)
[10:13] <ikonia> researcher1: use sudo to launch the application as cdbs suggested
[10:13] <cdbs> researcher1: what is the exact command you need to run?
[10:13] <researcher1> I ran hp-setup command then it gave a message "You need root privileges to do that"
[10:13] <cdbs> researcher1: run sudo hp-setup then
[10:13] <researcher1> I have already logged in as the only default user which was created while installing system
[10:13] <cdbs> researcher1: and enter your OWN password when sudo asks your password
[10:13] <researcher1> cdbs: ok
[10:14] <Diamondcite> elfranne: Maybe they are small files or one of the CPUs are already maxed?
[10:14] <psyklown> im having no luck with obtaining my broadcom xp drivers for ndiswrapper. any assistance?
[10:14] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: oh, that's an intel card then, eh? and I take it the reboot didn't do anything in the way of letting you change your resolution?
[10:14] <cdbs> researcher1: Ubuntu is configured such that the user would never need to login as root. If they need to, sudo is there
[10:14] <Diamondcite> elfranne: After all.. scp/sftp is quite CPU intensive.
[10:15] <researcher1> ok
[10:15] <researcher1> thanks everybody for the help
[10:15] <researcher1> bye for now
[10:15] <researcher1> tc
[10:15] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: no. I still have the same resolutions enabled... :/
[10:15] <elfranne> Diamondcite : 50% of cpu in use, and about small files they are around 5-10MB each
[10:16] <irong33k> i know its a stupid question, bout everytime i point my mouse on any audio file it plays the track, how do i disable that...its realy annoying
[10:16] <Diamondcite> elfranne: If it's a single core hyperthreaded CPU, then it might be maxed...
[10:16] <elfranne> Diamondcite : single core VIA cpu
[10:16] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: the monitor is deteced as "unknown" and compiz effects work fine (cube and deformations)
[10:17] <ardchoille> irong33k: in nautilus, click Edit > Preferences. Go to the Preview tab and choose what you want under the "Sound files" drop down menu
[10:17] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: it was a kernel update that did this? or what? and are you using 10.10 or 10.04?
[10:17] <Diamondcite> elfranne: While I don't know the details.. On a N270 Atom (1.6GHz) I can copy at around 6MB/sec due to CPU speed limitations.
[10:17] <gigamesh> i wish know if its some advante with the suspension /hibernation problem with the aspire one 721
[10:17] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: 10.10
[10:17] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: not sure what was updated yesterday.
[10:17] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: but it asked for rebooting. that's for sure.
[10:18] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: any idea how to find out what was installed?
[10:18] <ror> hi, whenever I try to download any programs in iPlayer, the whole program crashes and then crashes as soon as I open it next
[10:18] <elfranne> Diamondcite : this cpu is a less powerfull cpu than the N270, so even with samba i should only be able to copy at aroud 6 MB/s ?
[10:18] <irong33k> ardchoille, as in sound preferences in the menu?
[10:18] <ror> I have the adobe Air crash log, but I can't make much of it
[10:19] <Jragon> Hi.
[10:19] <Diamondcite> elfranne: Samba might be faster since it's actually lighter than sftp in resources.
[10:19] <ardchoille> irong33k: yes, that is what is doing the sound previews when you mouse over a sound file
[10:19] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: yeah, I think there's a log for that, I just can't remember where
[10:19] <elfranne> Diamondcite : ok
[10:19] <Jragon> Is there a way to do a bash command on start up? Like, /opt/lampp/lampp start? And is there a way to create command that just runs; java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame?
[10:20] <elfranne> Diamondcite : it is because i got problems with my smb.conf file -_-
[10:20] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: let me check /var/log again... :S
[10:20] <Diamondcite> elfranne: On the flipside, sftp gurantees a proper file transfer, samba doesn't have such an offer I think.
[10:21] <irong33k> ardchoille, thanks man all fixed
[10:21] <elfranne> Diamondcite : you mean there is a check of the fileś on sftp ?
[10:21] <ardchoille> irong33k: yw :)
[10:21] <Jragon> Is there a way to do that?
[10:22] <Freespark> Hello all
[10:22] <Jragon> Hi.
[10:22] <Diamondcite> elfranne: Since all the files are encrypted before transfer, I would assume that the file can't be decrypted if the transfer went bad.
[10:22] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: from /var/log/messages running kernel is still 2.6.35-25-generic
[10:22] <Jragon> Is there a way to do a bash command on start up? Like, /opt/lampp/lampp start? And is there a way to create command that just runs; java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame?
[10:22] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: no kernel update, then...
[10:22] <rzx237> Jragon: if you mean on system startup, you can put the command in /etc/rc.local
[10:22] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: then it does seem poretty strange that you can't change your resolution to what it was before
[10:23] <Jragon> Ok.
[10:23] <sidd_mak>  
[10:23] <psyklown> should i just go back to 10.04?
[10:23] <magnetron> Jragon: if you want it to run with root rights, put it in rc.d. if you want it to run as your user, put it in your crontab with the @reboot directive
[10:23] <ardchoille> Jragon: I have never done it but you should be able to put a bash script in  ~/.config/autostart and have the script run on login
[10:23] <Jragon> I cant remeber what java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame is, so I have to go to the minecraft site to get it, is there a way to make it something like, 'run minecraft'?
[10:23] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: i agree :S :S :(
[10:24] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: do you where the monitor settings program gets supported resolutions from?
[10:25] <offsense6> quit
[10:25] <gaelfx> should be from the driver
[10:25] <Freespark> All of a sudden my graphics card stopt working like it should. Anyone know what could cause this http://img822.imageshack.us/i/glxgears.png/
[10:25] <magnetron> Freespark:
[10:25] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: so no files in /etc or whereever.. :S :S
[10:26] <mats> hi! Does anybody know how can i start application from terminal and then close terminal without killing my application?
[10:26] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: not in my experience, no
[10:26] <magnetron> mats: yes, use a software called "screen"
[10:26] <uuuaaammm> mats: use "screen"
[10:26] <mats> thank you :D
[10:26] <Jragon> Rzx237, do you know how?
[10:26] <elfranne> Diamondcite : thx a lot for the infos :)
[10:26] <uuuaaammm> mats: ;)
[10:26] <Jragon> I cant remeber what java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame is, so I have to go to the minecraft site to get it, is there a way to make it something like, 'run minecraft'?
[10:27] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: i'll try checking /var/log/messages and xorg.log for errors.. :S :S :S
[10:27] <ardchoille> Unity is quite nice, Ubuntu devs are geniuses!
[10:28] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: i'll be right back
[10:28] <Jragon> Anyone?
[10:28] <ruan> Jragon: the launcher is at minecraft.net
[10:28] <Freespark> anyone who can tell me or just give me a hint of what could cause glxgears to show up like this http://img822.imageshack.us/i/glxgears.png/
[10:28] <Jragon> What do you mean?
[10:28] <edwardteach> Jragon, alias it in bash
[10:28] <mats> uuuaaammm:
[10:28] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: it runs java
[10:29] <Freespark> is it my card that is broken?
[10:29] <mats> i cant believe it is so simple, thanks again
[10:29] <Jragon> Edwardtech, thats the word I have been looking for. How do I do that?
[10:29] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: uses 2 paramesters for max memory
[10:29] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: specifies used jar file
[10:29] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: and then its main class...
[10:29] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: that's all.
[10:30] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: what's wrong?
[10:30] <Jragon> Cant I just make a command in bash that runs: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[10:30] <Jragon> Because I will never remeber java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame...
[10:31] <elfranne> Diamondcite : just checked where the files were it sftp is taking 50%cpu on my  core 2 duo 2.0GHz ... so i can understand it got problems on a atom like cpu
[10:31] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: just create an empty file...
[10:31] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: hey, I think you can check the history of installed packages in Synaptic, should be in one of the menus up top, give that a go maybe
[10:31] <Jragon> Why?
[10:31] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: copy that string to that....
[10:31] <edwardteach> !res | Freespark,  thats not pretty.. maybe
[10:31] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: that set execution permission for that file..
[10:31] <Yerushalmi> What is the command for reinstalling a faulty package?
[10:31] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: and it should work...
[10:32] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: checking thanks...
[10:32] <Freespark> ubottu: ok, I will try that. thanks for trying to help me!
[10:33] <suprengr> Does anyone know of a [safe / pervert free if poss.] usenet server for free use by plebs like me ;)  Ubuntu/Linux orientated would be a bonus.
[10:33] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: apt-get remove x, then apt-get install x
[10:33] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: you might want to do an auto-clean in between those two as well
[10:33] <Jragon> If ~I did alias runmc='java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame' Would that make an alias?
[10:33] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: only programs I installed / removed / updated, there...
[10:34] <histo> Yerushalmi: sudo aptitude reinstall packagename
[10:34] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: no automatic updates... :S :S :S
[10:34] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Heh, I was hoping there was a sort of apt-get reinstall or something. How do I do an auto-clean?
[10:34] <Yerushalmi> histo: Ah! Thanks.
[10:34] <gaelfx> apt-get autoclean ;)
[10:34] <histo> Yerushalmi: or sudo apt-get --reinstall
[10:34] <Jragon> If ~I did alias runmc='java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame' Would that make an alias?
[10:34] <dve> Diamoncite: Another symlink Q... can you link multiple folders to one target ... i.e. pull files from multiple places into a single virtual folder... I assume not?
[10:34] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx, histo: Gah! Too many choices! *grin*
[10:35] <gaelfx> that's the joy of OSS :D
[10:35] <histo> dve: you could creaet a folder and then make symlinks for your other ones in that folder
[10:35] <Jragon> Anybody? Please.
[10:35] <rzx237> Jragon: dunno if it works, but you can edit your ~/.bashrc file, find line contain alias "something" = "xxx",  add new line with your long command there
[10:35] <dve> histo: ok.. will give that a try
[10:36] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: dont' think so. create script file. it's easier...
[10:36] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: (and it works 100%)
[10:37] <Jragon> Uuuaaammm, how do I do that?
[10:37] <psyklown> can someone please help me with ndiswrapper?
[10:37] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: open your favoute text editor.
[10:38] <rzx237> psyklown: I tought you try to install broadcom 4311 driver?
[10:38] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: paste the whole java string..
[10:39] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: and save it
[10:39] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: then find it and select it. select "Permission"
[10:40] <psyklown> rzx377 no ndiswrapper says that 4311 was available for download, but nothing about hp pavilion dv2000 4312. like it doesnt say whether it works or not. i downloaded what i think is the driver from hp.com, but when activate the .inf file with ndis it says hardware present:no
[10:40] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: check the EXECUTE flag in permissios tab...
[10:40] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: SET the EXECUTE flag in permissios tab...
[10:40] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: got it?
[10:41] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: is it in /var/log/dpkg.log?
[10:41] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: let me check... ;)
[10:41] <Netw0rkBug> hey
[10:41] <Netw0rkBug> how can
[10:41] <Netw0rkBug> i install
[10:41] <Netw0rkBug> openSUSE
[10:41] <Netw0rkBug> from ubuntu
[10:41] <FloodBot2> Netw0rkBug: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:42] <tzesoi> sudo apt-get install openSuse :)
[10:42]  * gaelfx thinks someone's been writing too many haikus
[10:42] <psyklown> tzesoi lol
[10:42] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: yes. there it is....
[10:43] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: ha, well, if you find a clue, lemme know
[10:43] <Netw0rkBug> lol
[10:43] <tzesoi> go to http://software.opensuse.org/113/en
[10:43] <Netw0rkBug> i downloaded
[10:43] <Netw0rkBug> gnome version
[10:43] <tzesoi> download the iso you need,then burn it ,and reboot
[10:44] <Netw0rkBug> i know that
[10:44] <Netw0rkBug> i set boot
[10:44] <Netw0rkBug> in *
[10:44] <Netw0rkBug> for cd
[10:44] <FloodBot2> Netw0rkBug: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <Netw0rkBug> and it dosn't
[10:44] <Netw0rkBug> work
[10:44] <ardchoille> !enter | Netw0rkBug
[10:45] <dve> histo: thanks, works
[10:45] <histo> dve: np
[10:45] <histo> dve: that way is more logical to me atleast
[10:45] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: only updates for ssl, login, vlc there.... :S :/ :(
[10:46] <dve> histo: it definitely is... maybe ive just been starting at the screen too long!
[10:46] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: oh... and passwd :S
[10:46] <gaelfx> uuuaaammm: dang, I thought that might actually turn something up :S
[10:47] <datal> even though I set in /etc/sudoers MYUSER ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL it still asks for password
[10:47] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: i'll check all logfiles more carefully...
[10:47] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: thanks for helping :-)
[10:47] <gaelfx> noprob
[10:48] <uuuaaammm> Jragon: did you solve your problem?
[10:49] <edwardteach> datal, what are  you trying to achieve?
[10:50] <datal> edwardteach: sudo to stop bugging me with asking for password ;)
[10:50] <datal> edwardteach: I've done it a hundred times before, I either have a typo somewhere or something is missing
[10:50] <achille> hey can anyone help me out with a theme in openbox? or is there a dedicated channel/server?
[10:50] <datal> ahh I klnow whats missing I think
[10:50] <datal> silly me
[10:51] <uuuaaammm> logging out... bye!
[10:52] <yule> does anyone know why 'sudo aptitude install compass' doesn't work? It doesn't seem to put the compass binary in the path (it's a ruby gem)
[10:52] <example92> goodmorning!!!
[10:52] <Yerushalmi> My desktop has been missing for the last three days and reinstalling netbook-launcher didn't help. Can anyone help?
[10:53] <example92> i cant audate ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10....  it writes that i may use it although
[10:53] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: did you find a package called ubuntu-netbook-remix?
[10:54] <minimec> yule: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=compass&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[10:54] <gaelfx> I think netbook launcher is just part of the equation
[10:55] <yule> @minimec: sure, that would work but it's version 0.8 while the latest is 0.10
[10:55] <yule> correction: I ran 'sudo gem install compass'
[10:55] <yule> so, gem not aptitude
[10:55] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Nope. The only installed packages with "netbook" in them are "netbook-launcher", "ubuntu-netbook-default-settings", "netbook-launcher-efl", "libnetbook-launcher-0", "libclutk-0.2-0", "xul-ext-webfav" (firefox bookmarks), and "window-picker-applet"
[10:55] <gaelfx> example92: if you're using any ppas or other strange packages, it might not let you update
[10:56] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: yeah, but you're not looking for installed packages, you should look for packages that CAN be installed
[10:56] <example92> !gaelfx i use team viewer on wine...
[10:56] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Ah. I'll check.
[10:57] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: There it is. But why *wouldn't* I have it installed by now?
[10:57] <rumpe1> example92, why with wine and not the linux-version of teamviewer?
[10:57]  * gaelfx is hurt that ubottu knows nothing about him
[10:57] <m3asmi> how can I reconfigure my mail command
[10:57] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: who knows? this is a crazy world, sometimes packages just uninstall themselves :P
[10:57] <example92> i didn't know that there is a linux version...
[10:58] <gaelfx> example92: can you give a more exact version of why it says you can't update?
[10:58] <example92> one minute to try again
[10:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:59] <ardchoille> example92: how exactly are you updating 10.04 to 10.10?
[10:59] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: It says "This is a transitional package to move installed systems away from the Ubuntu Netbook Remix package to the new ubuntu-netbook. It can be safely removed after upgrade."
[11:00] <m3asmi> how can I reconfigure my mail command ?!!!!
[11:00] <rumpe1> m3asmi, be more specific
[11:00] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: hm, maybe you need ubuntu-netbook package then?
[11:00] <ShapeShifter499> I love awn but its not quite what I had in mind......    Is there a dock like awn  that has alot of online oriented apps, but looks good
[11:00] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: That's under the description in Software Center, that is,
[11:00] <ShapeShifter499> *applets
[11:00] <chimoek> assalamualaikum
[11:00] <example92> !ardchoile with update manager..
[11:01] <gaelfx> assuming there is such a package
[11:01] <m3asmi> rumpe1: yes
[11:01] <ardchoille> example92: ok
[11:01] <rumpe1> m3asmi, still not specific enough ^^
[11:01] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu Netbook system. It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed."
[11:01] <chimoek> assalamualaikum
[11:01] <rzx237> chimoek: waalaikumsalaam
[11:01] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: That's Ubuntu-netbook. So, huh. Guess I should install it, right? :)
[11:02] <m3asmi> rumpe1: example : echo "hiiiii" |mail m3Asmi@hostnem.com
[11:02] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: hey, it's your funeral
[11:02] <m3asmi> rumpe1:not workin !!
[11:02] <gaelfx> er choice
[11:02] <rzx237> chimoek: whats the problem?
[11:02] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: You sure are good at instilling confidence :)
[11:02] <chimoek> dak
[11:03] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: it's my specialty
[11:04] <Netw0rkBug> can i install any linux without cd or usb flash memory ?
[11:04] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Mine is copy-editing and being a <i>najes</i>
[11:05] <cdbs> !ot | Yerushalmi
[11:05] <ibrahim> hi i am trying to send a .doc to a windows user he keeps telling me he can't open it with word any suggestions?
[11:06] <juk> ibrahim: send in text mode if no pics with catdoc, or import as html at least
[11:07] <juk> s/import/export/g
[11:07] <ibrahim> so text should work?
[11:07] <juk> ibrahim: what?
[11:07] <robertzaccour> where do babies come from?
[11:07] <banksy> My 1 year old Mythtbuntu 10.10 HTPC just started playing up this week - if I reboot it gets onto the desktop and randomly locks up all input and freezes the screen - won't respond to keypress, mouse.  Cannot ssh into it, nor even ping it.   If I leave the machine in the BIOS setup, it is working fine, much longer than before.  Next debug steps?
[11:07] <oCean> robertzaccour: wrong channel
[11:07] <juk> robertzaccour: ask you mother
[11:07] <robertzaccour> she dont know
[11:07] <juk> robertzaccour: father?
[11:08] <oCean> robertzaccour: juk, drop it please
[11:08] <robertzaccour> he isnt sure
[11:08] <robertzaccour> ok
[11:08] <robertzaccour> juk?
[11:08] <Reapu> ubuntu keeps asking me for my password for almost every alteration I make and even when I try to access my computer from my local network
[11:08]  * juk shrugs 
[11:08] <Reapu> I dont want it to keep asking for password anymore
[11:08] <Reapu> its annoying
[11:08] <juk> robertzaccour: drop it
[11:08] <edwardteach> repa
[11:08] <robbiethe1st> Set the keychain up?
[11:08] <Reapu> how do I change it?
[11:09] <minimec> Reapu: Open the keyring manager and change the password. Leave it blank...
[11:09] <Reapu> key manager wheres that
[11:10] <Krycek> banksy: take out one of the ram and try it agein
[11:10] <banksy> Krycek: should I run memtest first?
[11:10] <robertzaccour> ok fine dont gotta be mean juk and oCean
[11:11] <Reapu> wheres the key manager
[11:11] <Reapu> keyring manager
[11:11] <minimec> Reapu:  <system <preferences <passwords ...
[11:11] <Krycek> banksy: nah, just try the ram first :)
[11:11] <juk> robertzaccour: freenode is 13+
[11:11] <Krycek> banksy: u decide what you do first :)
[11:12] <Reapu> minimec, what do i do there
[11:12] <robertzaccour> juk im 27
[11:12] <Krycek> gz
[11:12] <banksy> Krycek: I'll pull a stick out and see what happens.  I need to open it up anyway
[11:12] <juk> robertzaccour: ah, that it's inapropriate word i'd call you
[11:12] <minimec> Reapu: Passwords: default (right click) --> change password
[11:12] <robertzaccour> is freenode really 13+?
[11:12] <Krycek> banksy: cool, hope it works :P
[11:12] <Reapu> got it minimec
[11:12] <Reapu> thanks
[11:13] <banksy> thanks, me too
[11:15] <edwardteach> !freenode
[11:15] <Reapu> minimec, it still asks for a password even though I changed it to a blank pass
[11:15] <befuddled> nice
[11:15] <minimec> Reapu: Works for me. I always do it that way.
[11:16] <Reapu> do i need to logout
[11:16] <Krycek> Reapu: maybe reboot to take effect maybe
[11:16] <Reapu> for effects to take place?
[11:16] <minimec> Reapu: Means... I never give it a password after an ubuntu install.
[11:16] <befuddled> hmmm
[11:16] <Krycek> hmmm xp
[11:16] <befuddled> thats quite a lot of people there
[11:16] <Reapu> what command logouts?
[11:16] <Krycek> sudo reboot
[11:16] <Krycek> xD
[11:16] <minimec> Krycek: Reapu: noe 'reboot' needed, maybe session logou/login
[11:16] <befuddled> getting stagefright
[11:17] <Krycek> ofc
[11:17] <Krycek> :)
[11:17] <oCean> befuddled: do you have a technical issue/question to ask the channel?
[11:17] <Reapu> how do I perform session logout?
[11:17] <befuddled> i kinda did, but now it sounds silly to myself
[11:17] <befuddled> i'll let myself out
[11:17] <Krycek> hehe
[11:18] <timewriter> hi
[11:18] <Krycek> hi
[11:18] <banksy> Krycek: pulled 1 out of the 2 sticks out, and it's now reporting 768MB available, despite it having a 1GB stick remaining.  Think I chose the wrong one to remove!
[11:18] <timewriter> i have a problem with a certain marvell sata controller
[11:19] <timewriter> it seems that 10.04 is unable to work with marvell sata controllers
[11:19] <Krycek> banksy: :P so it may be the problem after all :) crossing fingers
[11:19] <timewriter> anyone can give a hint ?
[11:19] <example92> nothing, i tryied to update from 10.04 to 10.10 but is crashed
[11:22] <mats> Hi! I have 2 computers at home. I made an ssh connection from one to another but I don't know how to open some gui application from terminal which will work after i close my ssh connection. Can someone help me? I tried "screen" and it kinda works but then i get a application window on client computer, not server computer
[11:22] <Reapu> minimec, even though I changed it to a blank password i still get asked for a password when i login for instace and i think nothing else changed
[11:22] <edu> HOLA
[11:22] <Reapu> should I just delete the keyring altogether?
[11:23] <Krycek> Reapu: do a hard reboot :)
[11:23] <minimec> Reapu: What are we talking about. Autologin or the password prompt for protected stuff like wireless and other stored passwords?
[11:23] <Reapu> oops
[11:24] <Reapu> sorry
[11:24] <Reapu> should i just delete it altogether?
[11:24] <banksy> Krycek: First one still crashed, second one also reports 768MB - not sure if this nvidia onboard card grabs the rest or something else.  I've kicked off memtest86 with the second one in
[11:24] <minimec> Reapu: the password filed has to be blank, that's all
[11:25] <minimec> Krycek: Stop with that reboot thing. It's not Windows!
[11:25] <Krycek> banksy: hm, u could debug both of the ram sticks before going any further, it may be so many things. u said it freezes when u log in or?
[11:26] <Krycek> minimec: sure sure.
[11:26]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[11:27] <Reapu> how do I stop being asked for a password?
[11:27] <rumpe1> Reapu, it really isn't recommended if you keep being an admin...
[11:27] <banksy> Krycek: it's set to autologon, but it's typically freezing about the time it should start to boot myth frontend.  Once I was able to ssh in before it froze.  Nothing in dmesg.  It's been hot here this weekend, and the machine is left on 24/7, wondering if it's heat related
[11:27] <Reapu> it seriously starting to drive me insane
[11:27] <oCean> !afk > 13WAA6LW9
[11:27] <oCean> Reapu: passwords in what case? Remote login? Executing commands?
[11:28] <h0ar3> guys anyone here from Dubai or U.A.Emirates?
[11:28] <oCean> h0ar3: this is technical support, not chat
[11:28] <numberto> How can achive snapping effect when I drag the window to left/up/right sides (like in win7)
[11:29] <h0ar3> oCean: I have a timezone issue.
[11:29] <Krycek> banksy: ye heat is a killer :p u said you got a nvidia 3d card in there ? do you got a intregrated 3d card on your motherboard if so try that. :)
[11:29] <juk> !wfm | Reapu:
[11:29] <oCean> h0ar3: then ask your question. Describe issue and action/results so far in single line. Wait for the answer
[11:30] <Fuchs> numberto: by using kwin or by emulating it a bit via the tiling effect of compiz
[11:30] <banksy> Krycek: no 3d, just onboard nvidia 8200.  no other gfx card around.  second stick of ram just passed memtest86 round 1, so I'm going to try booting it
[11:30] <minimec> juk: THX ;) Some people don't seem to beleive me...
[11:31] <Krycek> banksy: cool, im not guru when it comes too any thing but debugging is something all have to go through some times >)
[11:31] <lunavorax_nb> Hi everyone !
[11:32] <banksy> Krycek: there's no word on problems with 2.6.35.25 is there?
[11:32] <lunavorax_nb> Is there a way to put my laptop on powersave mode automatically from the startup ?
[11:33] <silverlightning> what about #lubuntu ?
[11:33] <silverlightning> not the # sorry
[11:33] <Krycek> banksy: dont know sry
[11:33] <rumpe1> lunavorax_nb, put "dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend" into gnome-autostart
[11:33] <robbiethe1st> lunavorax_nb: Of course there is. I don't know it exactly, but there is a way
[11:33] <rumpe1> lunavorax_nb, if powersave=suspend
[11:33] <robbiethe1st> thanks, rumpel.
[11:33] <banksy> Krycek: just realised there's a more likely culprit - nvidia drivers
[11:34] <Krycek> banksy: :) gl i am out of idea of debugging >)
[11:34] <magnetron> hi, i think i'm about to go insane. How do i make screen update the xterm or gnome-terminal window title?
[11:34] <Reapu> so how I avoid being asked for a password continuallly please?
[11:35] <minimec> Reapu: Use your brain!!! http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2009/01/16/how-to-remove-ubuntus-password-keyring/
[11:35] <magnetron> Reapu: use sudo -i or sudo -s to get a shell with super-user capabilities
[11:35] <ikonia> magnetron: no luck with the irssi script ?
[11:35] <Krycek> Reapu: u was told how but it didnt work, try google "ubuntu no more passwords please" :)
[11:35] <insmod> what is the gnome wifi icon and how to install
[11:35] <magnetron> ikonia: no
[11:36] <ikonia> magnetron: do you know it's even possible ?
[11:36] <magnetron> ikonia: it updates the screen status line, but screen doesn't update the gnome-terminal status line
[11:37] <djin37> есть кто?
[11:37] <magnetron> ikonia: yes, it's mentioned several times in the screen documentation. there's even several distinct way of accomplishing it. i just can't get it to work
[11:37] <djin37> русский
[11:37] <schtiel> Есть.
[11:37] <djin37> помощь нужна (
[11:37] <juk> !ru | djin37
[11:37] <djin37> у меня дрова на видюху не встают
[11:37] <schtiel> djin37: дорога тебе на #ubuntu-ru
[11:38] <ikonia> magnetron: can you link me, I used to have a problem with gnome-terminals and kde terminals (kterm was it ?) when things worked fine with xterms and dtterm
[11:38] <ikonia> magnetron: see if we can get this working
[11:38] <lunavorax_nb> I was thinking about a mode that consume less CPU.
[11:38] <magnetron> ikonia: oh really? i just assumed gnome-terminal had the same capabilities as xterm
[11:39] <ikonia> magnetron: capabilities....yes, functionality......not always
[11:39] <mycosys> gawd - what kind of dullard thinks lvm is diffucult for a constantly growing media storage :S
[11:39] <insmod> what is the gnome wifi icon and how to install?
[11:39] <magnetron> ikonia: this is what i've used so far: http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~jnweiger/screen-faq.html
[11:39] <ikonia> insmod: gnome wifi icon ? do you mean the gnome network manager tool ?
[11:39] <Krycek> insmod: ? is you wifi icon gone?
[11:39] <magnetron> ikonia: http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/screen/screen_59.html
[11:40]  * murphy ÿ ñíîâà òóò!.
[11:40] <ikonia> magnetron: give me 20 mins / half an hour to have a read, poke around and test
[11:40] <insmod> ikonia: yes
[11:40] <ikonia> magnetron: I'll get back to you
[11:40] <timewriter> hi
[11:40] <ikonia> insmod: nm-applet
[11:40] <insmod> Krycek, yes
[11:40] <magnetron> ikonia: i'll try with xterm and see if i get another result
[11:40] <timewriter> anyone can tell me why a sata controller is using a pata driver
[11:40] <timewriter> ?
[11:40] <insmod> ikonia: thanks
[11:40] <ikonia> magnetron: good test, I'll go and try this with ubuntu and gnome
[11:41] <timewriter> this marvell 88SE6145 is usint pata_marvell
[11:41] <timewriter> using
[11:41] <timewriter> and i was wondering why my hdds arent recognized
[11:41] <insmod> ikonia: Unable to locate package nm-applet
[11:41] <edwardteach> timewriter, http://edoceo.com/liber/xh-marvell-sata
[11:41] <Krycek> insmod: right click the panel and add NetworkManager Applet
[11:41] <ikonia> insmod: it's an applet,
[11:41] <timewriter> thank you edwardteach
[11:41] <oCean> timewriter: might've run into a bug. Quick search at LP discovered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/666197.
[11:41] <insmod> ikonia: not listed
[11:42] <insmod> Krycek, not listed
[11:42] <timewriter> but it was working out of the box on 8.04
[11:42] <Krycek> insmod: indicator applet then
[11:42] <insmod> Krycek, how do i install
[11:42] <oCean> wow, ubottu what did you do there :)
[11:43] <ikonia> I believe the package is something like gnome-nm-applet, insmod have a search in the package manager
[11:43] <timewriter> should i recompile kernel ?
[11:43] <DaveMc> I have a dual booting laptop (WinXP/Fedora), I've now downloaded and burned the Ubuntu 10.10 ISO twice (both CDs contain the files and folders of the live CD, I.E. I didn't burn the ISO as a single file on the disks), the laptop will boot other live CDs, but nothing happens with these Ubuntu disks, machine boots direct to Fedora. Any ideas?
[11:44] <timewriter> DaveMc, did you try another bootable cd/dvd
[11:44] <timewriter> ?
[11:44] <timewriter> i got a similar problem and it wasnt solved until i changed the IDE cable
[11:44] <ikonia> DaveMc: burn them as an ISO image
[11:44] <rooks> how can i make thunderbird display new mail notification using the envelope icon, and using the same communication system as i.e. infromation about connecting to a network?
[11:45] <DaveMc> timewriter yesterday I tried the latest Joli Cloud/Kubuntu disk from Linux User & Developer magazine and it worked fine
[11:45] <mats> I have 2 computers at home. I made an ssh connection from one to another but I don't know how to open some gui application from terminal which will work after i close my ssh connection. Can someone help me? I tried "screen" and it kinda works but then i get a application window on client computer, not server computer
[11:45] <timewriter> try it again DaveMc , and see if it boots
[11:45] <openSUSEkorisnik> your advice on softwer for keeping track on ur bandwith download /upload?
[11:45] <timewriter> i came to believe that my cd-rom was malfunctioning but it wasnt so
[11:45] <minimec> mats: yourapp &&
[11:45] <DaveMc> timewriter: will do
[11:46] <timewriter> i wonder why 8.04 has no problem with marvell sata , but 10.04 has :(
[11:47] <atman> is there any software , which can sync my files on /var/www to some online space such as dropbox?
[11:47] <njin> ubuntu-it-test
[11:47] <djin37> ну есть кто может помочь?
[11:47] <timewriter> this is sad , coz i really need the external sata ports
[11:47] <DaveMc> timewriter: I also created the Kubuntu live CD from an ISO on the aforementioned mag disk and that worked ok. But as you suggest I'll give those another try
[11:47] <jigs> hello all
[11:47] <timewriter> DaveMc, try again with that Kubuntu disc
[11:47] <atman> is there any software , which can sync my files on /var/www to some online space such as dropbox?
[11:48] <fermamda> oi
[11:48] <fermamda> oi
[11:48] <timewriter> i really love 10.04 but this is a big problem
[11:48] <mats> minimec: that works the exactly same way as screen does :S i need something else so my app will be started at server computer not client
[11:48] <fermamda> oi pohas
[11:49] <wl_deav> atman you can set this up manually with a bash script and a cron job
[11:49] <minimec> mats: ok. There I cannot help you.
[11:49] <robbiethe1st> mats: ssh into your server computer, run "screen -dm command"
[11:49] <atman> wl_deav , can you plz tell me or forward to such link ?
[11:49] <fermamda> oi pohas
 apt-get install netspeed - is a applet
[11:50] <atman> wl_deav , can you please tell me how ?
[11:50] <openSUSEkorisnik> Thanks :)
[11:50] <timewriter> oCean, it is the same problem on 10.10 also
[11:51] <djin37> русский канал плиз ссылку
[11:51] <djin37> забанили нах
[11:51] <fermamda> hax
[11:51] <timewriter> none of the hdds connected via marvell sata are recognised
[11:51] <djin37> вникнуть в проблему не хотят
[11:51] <djin37> рудз
[11:51] <shentino> uh, wrong channel djin37
[11:51] <djin37> help
[11:51] <shentino> !russian | djin37
[11:51] <mats> robbiethe1st: looks like it works, il go check it on other comp..
[11:52] <timewriter> it seems that debian 6 has the same problem , he doesnt like my sata controller
[11:52] <robbiethe1st> mats: I use that for running certain scripts I need to run forever that aren't designed to be daemons exactly.
[11:52] <vale> anyone please can help me partitioning a HD with gparted?
[11:53] <timewriter> vale, yes
[11:53] <vale> timewriter: thanks
[11:53] <timewriter> its easy
[11:53] <Uncle|Sam> Hi there. I have a problem connecting murmur to my mysql server. My OS is Ubuntu 10.04.1 64bit with ia32-libs. Before I installed ia32-libs the mysql connection worked fine, but now i get "relocation error: /lib32/libnss_files.so.2". Can anyone help me?
[11:53] <vale> timewriter: i'm running on puppy live
[11:53] <timewriter> open Gparted and partition the hard drive how it suits your needs
[11:53] <openSUSEkorisnik> jpbaddevolper newbie question : how to start it ?
[11:53] <shentino> Can anyone tell me how to move the desktop from tty7 to tty12?
[11:54] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: test your mysql connection on the command line
[11:54] <ikonia> openSUSEkorisnik: you are using suse again
[11:54] <vale> timewriter: it's not so easy, gparted won't allow me format the HD
[11:54] <timewriter> because it is mounted
[11:54] <openSUSEkorisnik> mate sorry but on suse its so emtpy
[11:54] <timewriter> right click on it and unmount it
[11:54] <openSUSEkorisnik> and im asking but linux apps
[11:54] <ikonia> openSUSEkorisnik: you've been asked an then told not to ask in here for suse questions
[11:54] <ikonia> openSUSEkorisnik: do not ask again
[11:54] <vale> it's not mounted :S
[11:54] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: the mysql connection is working fine for all other applications (e.g. php, console, ...) but not for murmur. Full error line: murmur.x86: relocation error: /lib32/libnss_files.so.2: symbol strcmp, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[11:54] <timewriter> whats the error you get when trying to partition it ?
[11:55] <shentino> Uncle|Sam:  That doesn't look like a mysql error
[11:55] <vale> gparted says me the partition is mounted, but is not
[11:55] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: why did you install the 32bit libs ?
[11:55] <timewriter> open terminal and type mount
[11:55] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: (just getting background together)
[11:55] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: i host some game server for my clan and the anti cheat tool needs it
[11:55] <vale> ok
[11:55] <Uncle|Sam> without it doesnt work
[11:56] <gerda> hi i have problem with my mic my laptop is lenovo R61i i tried it with windows xp it works fine i whent to alsa log page http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b115e0f700d8d4474c03b2edc546e49db4cfb77e
[11:56] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: ok, before that was the murmur application ( I have no idea what that is) using the 32bit or 64bit mysql libs ?
[11:56] <timewriter> and vale  , you see something like /dev/sdb2 that has a pair of keys as a symbol , in Gparted , the disk is mounted
[11:57] <vale> timewriter: are sda4 (partition with old ubuntu) and sda6 (swap partition)
[11:57] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: the default one from ubuntu 10.04.1 64bit so i think it is 64bit. but i have no idea where to get this information
[11:57] <timewriter> and what do you want ? you want to delete them and create new partitions ?
[11:57] <vale> timewriter: yes
[11:57] <timewriter> i guess swap is on
[11:57] <vale> how can i turn it off?
[11:58] <timewriter> open a terminal and type swapoff
[11:58] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: I just found in Xorg.log:  (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[11:58] <timewriter> then try to delete the swap partition
[11:58] <vale> let me see
[11:58] <vale> nothing has changed
[11:58] <uuuaaammm> gaelfx: but /var/run/acpid.socket actually exists...
[11:59] <timewriter> imposible
[11:59] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: have you got any 3rd party repos enabled ?
[11:59] <timewriter> vale,
[11:59] <vale> timewriter: it says "could not deactivate swap"
[11:59] <timewriter> in Gparted , right click on the swap partition , and choose swapoff
[11:59] <mats> robbiethe1st: hm.. actually im not sure any more if its working or not :S i tried to start vuze but now on "server" i dont have opened gui application, not even in system monitor, but i can see it in "htop" under sshd. nestat says that connections are up so im guessing that he is downloadaing...
[11:59] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: no i dont have
[12:00] <gerda> hi i have problem with my internal mic input no control in alsamixer and so on
[12:00] <oCean> vale: using "swapon -s" you can see if a certain swappartition is active. You can disable a certain swappartition using "swapoff <partitionname>", for example swapoff /dev/sdb2
[12:00] <vale> timewriter: already done,
[12:00] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: that looks like a version conflict at a high level but I can't see how
[12:00] <vale> let me see
[12:00] <scoundrel50> Hi, does anybody have any suggestions about how to solve the error 255, when trying to set shares for folders? I'm running Maverick on both machines
[12:01] <oCean> vale: for the actual swapoff you need to prefix the command with sudo
[12:01] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: is there a way to get a crash report which can help more?
[12:01] <scoundrel50> this machine I am iusing here, can see or be be seen by my other machine.
[12:01] <timewriter> i always forget about sudo
[12:01] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: that is the crash report, and it is useful
[12:01] <timewriter> im not used to it
[12:01] <vale> oCean: timewriter, i made it!
[12:01] <timewriter> vale, ok
[12:01] <timewriter> glad you did it
[12:01] <mats> robbiethe1st: DISPLAY=:0 works :D
[12:01] <vale> now i try simply to format
[12:02] <timewriter> i would delete all partitions and create new ones
[12:02] <rooks> how to make thunderbird to display new mail info in the notification area using the usual ubuntu mechanisms instead of its own
[12:02] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: any idea what i should do now?
[12:02] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: I'm wondering if it's something as simple as a 32bit lib has a missing symlink so that the 32bit glibc dosn't know it's there
[12:02] <vale> ahaha, done :D
[12:02] <timewriter> :)
[12:03] <vale> timewriter: now just pray ubuntu installation will go right
[12:03] <timewriter> vale, why wouldnt go right ?
[12:03] <vale> because before installation get stucked at third step
[12:04] <vale> and i tried over and over, from 7 PM to 5 AM
[12:04] <timewriter> i never had a problem with ubuntu install
[12:04] <vale> me too
[12:04] <vale> this is the first time
[12:04] <timewriter> most of the times it fails if there are hardware problems
[12:04] <timewriter> defective hdds or so
[12:04] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: http://www.bitchx.com/log/mumble-f/mumble-f-24-Jun-2010/mumble-f-24-Jun-2010-00.php
[12:04] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: a user called Tiven is having the same problem, I'm researching
[12:04] <timewriter> linux is more sensitive to hardware malfunctions than lets say windows
[12:05] <vale> i think there are no problem, until yesterday all worked properly
[12:05] <vale> both win 7 and ubuntu
[12:05] <timewriter> i like 10.04
[12:05] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: i already tried to google but i found nothing why this happens
[12:05] <timewriter> i always go for LTS versions
[12:05] <vale> but sometime, somehow, everything went wrong
[12:05] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: are you running murmur as root or a normal user ?
[12:05] <vale> there was 10.10 installed
[12:06] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: of course normal user
[12:06] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: ahhh hang on, can you show me the output of uname -a please
[12:06] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: I've just remembered something
[12:06] <vale> timewriter: is there a way to make a ubuntu usb bootable directly from web?
[12:06] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: i wrote a notice because i dont want to publish my hostname
[12:06] <Eduard> Hello guys, could someone help me a little? What's the name of Nvidia 32 bit opengl libraries?
[12:07] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: undertood, ahhh, not what I thought
[12:07] <timewriter> vale, i guess you can create a bootable usb drive straight from live session
[12:07] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: it's not a linnode or hosted vps box is it ?
[12:07] <vale> timewriter: uh?
[12:07] <timewriter> System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator
[12:08] <timewriter> if on gnome
[12:08] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: its a own root server, no virtual or something like that
[12:08] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: ah I know linnode used to do a trick to the packages that broke some links
[12:08] <Uncle|Sam> ok
[12:08] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: could you run a test and try to start murmur with sudo
[12:08] <timewriter> or boot your windows and google for pendrive linux
[12:08] <ravn> hey folks, i just tried vinage to control another ubuntu machine. The result is that everything is extremely slow and on of my cores are running 100% all the time. Anyone know how to remedy?
[12:08] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: yes of course, one moment
[12:08] <DaveMc> timewriter: The Kubuntu live CD I created booted just fine (I'm using it here and now in fact), but the Ubuntu live CDs I created still do nothing, the machine boots straight to Fedora.
[12:09] <timewriter> DaveMc, in this case the cd you created is bad
[12:09] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: i am getting the same error message
[12:09] <DaveMc> timewriter: Both Ubuntu CDs were created from separate ISO downloads, but neither work
[12:10] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: intersting, I'll need to pop and do some research
[12:10] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: none of the things I expected are true
[12:10] <timewriter> DaveMc, what software did you use ? or maybe the cds dont suite your cd-writer
[12:10] <Eduard> guys, what packages contain 32bit nvidia opengl libraries? Help, i'm desperate
[12:11] <Uncle|Sam> ikonia: thank you very much for helping me!
[12:12] <DaveMc> timewriter: I used Nero for all the disks, although one difference is I burned the Kubuntu image to a DVD, the ubuntu image to CD, so maybe I should try a DVD instead to be sure?
[12:12] <timewriter> Eduard, did you install the nvidia drivers ?
[12:12] <timewriter> DaveMc, yes , and may i suggest ImgBurn ?
[12:12] <ikonia> Uncle|Sam: well, no result yet and it's not looking like any of what I'd expect is true
[12:13] <Eduard> timewriter: I'm running ubuntu 10.10 64bit and I've got the nvidia-96 driver manually installed from nvidia. The thing is, I'm missing 32bit opengl libraries and wine complains about it
[12:13] <DaveMc> timewriter: Ok, I'll give it a go, thank you for time.
[12:13] <timewriter> DaveMc, youre welcome
[12:14] <timewriter> Eduard, , hy version 96 ?
[12:14] <timewriter> why* i mean
[12:14] <Eduard> timewriter, my card is NVIDIA MX 400, so that means nvidia-96 for me
[12:14] <timewriter> i see
[12:14] <netwrkspider> Hi
[12:15] <timewriter> 64 bit you say
[12:15] <insmod> ok nm-applet is running but i can not see
[12:15] <insmod> it
[12:15] <Eduard> yup, i need 32 bit because wine won
[12:15] <Eduard> won't run openGL games
[12:16] <timewriter> i can run opengl games and i didnt do nothing special for this
[12:16] <timewriter> nvidia 8800GTX using the current driver
[12:17] <Cradam> what is the best linux for an amateur combined with low system specs
[12:17] <Cradam> im looking at mint
[12:17] <Cradam> oops wrong chan
[12:17] <timewriter> mint crashed for me after update
[12:17] <juk> !mint
[12:18] <timewriter> !derivative
[12:18] <timewriter> he doesnt know
[12:18] <Cradam> juk, did i not say oops wrong chan
[12:19] <juk> Cradam: 20:17 < Cradam> oops wrong chan
[12:19] <timewriter> Cradam, what are your system`s specs ?
[12:19] <Cradam> 1GHz processor IDE HDD and 488MB RAM
[12:19] <timewriter> pentium 3 /
[12:20] <Cradam> pentium 2 mobile
[12:20] <timewriter> uh
[12:20] <Cradam> mobile uses a different naming system
[12:20] <rooks> what is the proper name for the notification system which shows that you connected to network, and so on?
[12:20] <leo007> #pszczyna
[12:20] <timewriter> indicator applet ?
[12:21] <Daekdroom> rooks, network-manager-applet I think
[12:21] <Daekdroom> timewriter, it's indicator-applet in 11.04
[12:21] <timewriter> 11.04 is out ?
[12:21] <Daekdroom> Not yet.
[12:21] <rooks> timewriter, i dont know, there is a lot of confusion how its named...
[12:21] <Cradam> timewriter, its in beta atm
[12:21] <timewriter> i see
[12:22] <bibic682> hello, any good noticeable speed tweaks for 9.10 ?.....athlon xp 3000+ 333 fsb   1.5 g ddr mem    ati radeon 9250 pci
[12:22] <ikonia> bibic682: no
[12:23] <erUSUL> rooks: network is managed by NM via the network manager applet. nm-applet. nm-applet needs a notification area to show itself
[12:23] <Cradam> hmm #linuxmint-help is down
[12:24] <ikonia> Cradam: why is that relevant here ?
[12:24] <timewriter> forget about mint , Cradam
[12:24] <Cradam> im wondering which linux to go for
[12:24] <rooks> erUSUL, im not asking about the network
[12:24] <timewriter> it has a nice interface , but thats not enough
[12:24] <[Jie-Dnk]> hallo nite all
[12:24] <timewriter> go for ubuntu , ofc
[12:24] <timewriter> and believe me , ive tried many linux distros
[12:24] <Cradam> which ubuntu?
[12:24] <xrfang> after uninstall macbuntu, my gdm screen looks very rudimentary.  how can I restore my default gdm screen? thanks
[12:25] <rooks> what is the proper name for the notification system which shows that you connected to network or sound change, and so on. and how to make thunderbird use it instead of its own notification system?
[12:25] <timewriter> i would choose 10.04 , if i were you , but this is your option
[12:25] <timewriter> oh . you have low specs , i forgot
[12:25] <timewriter> i dont know what to say in this case
[12:25] <ubuntu_> hi everybody i'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on a netbook from usb but when the parted server should strat it crash. Does anyone have any soluction? thanks
[12:25] <Cradam> thats not what i meant i meant which derivative
[12:25] <Cradam> of ubuntu
[12:26] <ikonia> Cradam: nothign to do with this channel
[12:26] <timewriter> Cradam, you can boot the live cd and see if your system can handle ubuntu
[12:26] <ikonia> Cradam: this channel is for official ubuntu only
[12:27] <Cradam> kubuntu is official ubuntu ikonia
[12:27] <ikonia> Cradam: yes, it is
[12:27] <juk> rooks: try /usr/share/doc/python-notify/examples/test-basic.py
[12:27] <timewriter> kubuntu uses KDE
[12:27] <timewriter> i would try a lighter desktop environment
[12:27] <rooks> juk, no, i wont...
[12:27] <juk> rooks: ah, nice
[12:28] <rooks> juk, i found it already, it doesnt need no python or other strangeness, → echo "this is a test" | xargs -0 notify-send
[12:28] <rooks> juk, and yes, its nice clean solution
[12:28] <juk> rooks: i wouldn't know...
[12:29] <rooks> if you say so
[12:29] <noobie1> hi, i just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my parent's machine. however it's not booting! I get "Reboot and select proper boot device", even though it is on the hdd. What can I do?
[12:29] <timewriter> Reboot and select proper device
[12:30] <noobie1> timewriter: i have selected the proper hdd in the bios
[12:30] <noobie1> timewriter: and it's still not booting
[12:30] <timewriter> are you sure that grub is installed on the hdd you are trying to boot from ?
[12:31] <noobie1> how can i find that out? there are grub's files in /boot/grub, but i can't tell if it's in the bootblock
[12:32] <timewriter> it seems that the system doesnt find any suitable device to boot from
[12:32] <ale_> hello. I'm trying to use 2 fingers scroll on my touchpad, and to do so I'm running a small shell script in the terminal. I wanted to have this feature at boot, so I entered the name of the file (after having set it executable) in rc.local. Well, it doesn't work at boot.. how so?
[12:32] <timewriter> how many harddrives you have ?
[12:33] <noobie1> just one on ide (it's not the youngest hdd)
[12:33] <noobie1> timewriter: apart from that, there's just the dvd-drive
[12:33] <timewriter> you might need to reinstall grub on the proper device
[12:33] <noobie1> ok, how do i do that?
[12:35] <noobie1> i already booted from cd and mounted the hdd on /mnt
[12:35] <bigmahatma> anyone?
[12:35]  * Cradam is away: I'm busy
[12:35] <timewriter> noobie1, you need to boot again from cd
[12:35] <braccobaldo> hi everybody i'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on a netbook from usb but when the parted server should strat it crash. Does anyone have any soluction? thanks
[12:37] <kenta> Hi. I'm trying out 11.04. but nautilus and gnome-core. they depend on other packages that can't be installed
[12:37] <timewriter> noobie1, try sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[12:38] <timewriter> or just sudo grub-install
[12:39] <noobie1> timewriter: ok, i'll try
[12:40] <kenta> Hi. I'm trying out 11.04. but nautilus and gnome-core wont install. they depend on other packages that can't be installed. anyone got a clue?
[12:40] <jo-erlend> kenta: you should join #Ubuntu+1
[12:41] <juk> kenta: sorry buddy but you on your own
[12:41] <kenta> err.. hehe
[12:42] <scoundrel50> Doesw anybody have any ideas about error 255, when trying to set shares for networking? I cant share between my computers, I am using Ubuntu 10.10.
[12:45] <billmania> With Firefox 3.6.13 on ubuntu, how can I increase the size of the tiny images to the left of the file names in the File Upload popup window?
[12:47] <shum> can someone tell me why sound doesn't work as root user?
[12:47] <blkdg> hello, my old acer travelmate laptop with an sis video card will suspend, but the monitor will not turn on.  all power managment options are off, and there is no screensaver associated. i am using ubuntu 10.4 32 bit. how do i turn on the monitor after the suspend?
[12:48] <jo-erlend> shum: why on earth would you want to do that?
[12:48] <lanoxx> since an update two days ago my friend can not view flash videos anymore, is are there any instrucitons available how to troubleshoot flash on maverick?
[12:48] <blkdg> shum, are you logged in as root? / running x as root?
[12:48] <blkdg> lanoxx, turn off all of your desktop effects
[12:48] <shum> jo-erlend: to run virtualbox as root so it can access usb devices
[12:48] <lanoxx> blkdg, ok i will try that
[12:49] <shum> blkdg: no
[12:49] <juk> blkdg: X is always runs by root
[12:49] <blkdg> virtualbox should be run as a user shum
[12:50] <blkdg> thank you juk
[12:50] <Odaym> is there no "/sbin/lspci" on my Ubuntu?
[12:50] <blkdg> shun try more /etc/group
[12:50] <jo-erlend> shum: sounds like a bad setup. It would probably be better to set the group ownership of the USB device you want to access and make yourself part of that group.
[12:50] <oCean> Odaym: /usr/bin/lspci
[12:50] <mevvis> just lspci
[12:50] <Odaym> aha
[12:50] <Odaym> thanks
[12:50] <mevvis> or locate
[12:51] <lcb> Hi. is it possible to show dependencies of a package compiled and installed by ourselves? 'aptitude show' gets dependencies from the one in repository.
[12:51] <LjL> lcb: dpkg -I filename.deb
[12:51] <volvering> Hello i have a problem on ubuntu maverik, the microfone keep active.. if i touch the micro i can hear noise but i am not using it with any program so i dont understand why he keep actived
[12:51] <jo-erlend> shum: root isn't just a privilege. It's another user.
[12:51] <blkdg> shun once you get a list of members, look for your userid
[12:51] <lcb> LjL, no .deb :(
[12:52] <LjL> lcb: then how is it a package if there is no .deb?
[12:52] <linuxguy101> my scrole lock light isnt working...
[12:52] <shum> blkdg: yeah but i need to run it as root. i haven't had problems in the past running programs as root and getting sound
[12:52] <blkdg> volvering, mute it with the mixer
[12:52] <linuxguy101> and this is a bug that goes back to 2007
[12:52] <shum> what am i looking for in /etc/group?
[12:52] <jo-erlend> shum: why do you need to run it as root? I've just given you an alternative?
[12:52] <shum> ive already added myself to the vboxuser group but that didnt work
[12:52] <lcb> LjL. hmmm... its installed. i didn't see on this one any .deb being made. let me check
[12:52] <lanoxx> blkdg, my friends settings were already at none
[12:52] <volvering> blkdg,  i done but i still active
[12:53] <blkdg> shun read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=642394
[12:53] <lanoxx> blkdg, i mean turned off
[12:53] <volvering> blkdg, it still active i want say
[12:53] <shum> do you mean chmod -R a+rw /dev/bus/usb?
[12:53] <jo-erlend> shum: nevermind that. Find out which device you want to use, and add your own primary group as the owner. That's the fastest way. If more users should be able to access it, create a group, like webcamusers, add that group as group owner of the device and add users to that group.
[12:53] <LjL> lcb: if you installed it using "make install" or similar, it's not a package, and there is no way to know dependencies
[12:54] <jo-erlend> shum: the USB device that you want to use.
[12:54] <lcb> LjL, yes. that's my point.... too bad :(
[12:54] <blkdg> volvering, apps like skype have a 'let me control the mixer' if skype is running, then that over rides the mixer.
[12:54] <jo-erlend> shum: but you'll probably get better advice in #vbox.
[12:54] <lcb> thanks LjL :)
[12:54] <shum> mk, how do i add myself as the owner of a usb device?
[12:55] <blkdg> lanoxx, make sure all effects are off, log back in.
[12:55] <erUSUL> shum: what usb device?
[12:56] <oCean> shum: using virtualbox-4 and the usb extensionpack all you have to do is add your user to the vboxusers group
[12:56] <shum> erUSUL: a keyboard, i can use it my user but virtualbox can only access usb devices if i run it as root.
[12:56] <blkdg> shum, don't run vbox as root. it's clear by that thread as to why.
[12:56] <erUSUL> shum: see oCean's answer
[12:57] <shum> erUSUL oCean: i tried that but it didn't work.
[12:57] <oCean> shum: not at all or for a particular usb device?
[12:57] <induz> good morning guys
[12:57] <induz> i am in KDE now from gnome
[12:58] <shum> for any usb device
[12:58] <volvering> blkdg, i close skype but still have same problem
[12:58] <oCean> shum: then your setup/config is wrong. The usb extensionpack works just fine in 4.0
[12:59] <induz> what is good reliable backup s/w or way as I have to reinstall my Lucid??
[12:59] <blkdg> volvering, you shut skype, you muted it in the mixer, and the mike is still on?
[12:59] <shum> I might give myself rw privledges on everything in /dev/bus/usb and /sys/kernel/debug/usb and see if i can run vbox as my normal user then.
[13:00] <blkdg> wait shum
[13:00] <volvering> blkdg, yes! if i touch the micro i hear noise
[13:00] <blkdg> which ubuntu are you using
[13:00] <shum> blkdg: 10.10
[13:01] <cdbs> !backup | induz
[13:01] <blkdg> shum, http://techtooltip.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/how-to-use-host-usb-device-from-guest-in-virtual-box/
[13:01] <cdbs> induz: I recommend deja-dup, available in software center
[13:01] <blkdg> volvering, open your mixer, and make sure you can see all devices.
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> =how come the music controls in awn don't work for every player?
[13:02] <lanoxx> blkdg, the the effects have been off all the time and the computer restarted several times, yet no change
[13:02] <blkdg> volvering, there might be a second mike input
[13:02] <induz>  deja-dup???
[13:02] <Odaym> how do i access "/sbin/modinfo modname" on Ubuntu?
[13:02] <Odaym> to see what a certain module dpoes
[13:02] <Odaym> does*
[13:02] <induz> i am in KDE of ubuntu so where is software center located on my system?
[13:03] <volvering> blkdg, no device now
[13:03] <blkdg> lanoxx, if you are using the stable version of your video driver, and effects are off, apps like googleearth and sites like youtube will work. most of the time its compiz that conflicts with those things working.
[13:03] <oCean> Odaym: exactly as you typed, for example modinfo bluetooth
[13:04] <Odaym> aha
[13:04] <Odaym> but..
[13:04] <oCean> !afk > MC8
[13:04] <blkdg> lanoxx, check that the virsion of java on that machine (if there is one) is higher than Java 6.0_20
[13:04] <Odaym> you said that /sbin/lspci means /usr/bin/lspci, oCean
[13:05] <shum> that did the trick. just relaxed all the permisions for in /dev /proc and /sys
[13:05] <Odaym> then why not now i put /usr/bin/modinfo video for example
[13:05] <oCean> Odaym: some executables have different paths, not all of them. Use 'which <executablename>' to find out, e.g. 'which modinfo'
[13:05] <induz> why the fonts are bursting on KDE
[13:06] <Odaym> i see i see
[13:06] <Odaym> right, i know which
[13:06] <induz> is it caz of memory of 1gb
[13:06] <Odaym> :)
[13:06] <blkdg> volvering, open a term and run alsamixer
[13:06] <pmartin> alguien me puede ayudar con virtualbox?
[13:06] <blkdg> volvering, you should see all audio devices attached to the machine
[13:07] <induz> how can i change system wide fonts on KDE??
[13:07] <volvering> blkdg, done and now?
[13:07] <blkdg> see the mike volvering
[13:07] <blkdg> volvering, or mikes ?
[13:08] <Odaym> when i put "lspci" oCean, i get parport_c and parport, but when i put "lspci | grep parport" nothing comes out
[13:08] <Odaym> why isn't it finding them
[13:08] <blkdg> volvering, lets try the shotgun approach, MUTE EVERYTHING and start unmuting them one at a time
[13:09] <blkdg> lanoxx, what video card?
[13:09] <Odaym> :o
[13:09] <oCean> Odaym: do you mean lsmod?
[13:09] <Odaym> hmm
[13:09] <Odaym> that lists the modules
[13:09] <Odaym> what does lspci do then?
[13:09] <Odaym> list all PCI devices
[13:09] <oCean> Odaym: lspci lists your pci devices
[13:09] <Odaym> ok
[13:09] <oCean> indeed
[13:09] <FloodBot2> Odaym: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <volvering> blkdg, i mute everything and now the mic is silent if i touch
[13:10] <blkdg> volvering, cool. now unmute ONE AT A TIME
[13:11] <blkdg> volvering, then you'll know which is the real mike.
[13:11] <blkdg> lanoxx, video card?
[13:11] <lanoxx> blkdg, java wasnt installed, im installing it now, is it anyhow connected to flash? its a intel (810 i belive)
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:12] <volvering> blkdg, yes is the last one, the f-mic
[13:12] <lanoxx> blkdg, G31 familiy according to lspci
[13:12] <blkdg> volvering, there you go.
[13:12] <Odaym> FATAL: Error removing lp (/lib/modules/2.6.35-25-generic/kernel/drivers/char/lp.ko): Operation not permitted
[13:12] <Odaym> because of root powers, it means?
[13:12] <Odaym> module parport is in use?
[13:12] <Odaym> but it's for the printers that are hooked to parallel port..
[13:12] <Odaym> there is no printer now, and if there were it wouldn't be to parallel port
[13:12] <FloodBot2> Odaym: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:13] <volvering> blkdg, tanks
[13:13] <blkdg> volvering, np
[13:13] <lanoxx> blkdg, flash used to work for the last couple of years and only stopped two days ago, i can see the start and volume buttons but the video area keeps black
[13:13] <blkdg> lanoxx, go here, http://drjava.org/ then look on the left side for compiz. click it, and read
[13:15] <blkdg> lanoxx, i know that i learnt the hard way. googleearth and youtube and drjava all crap out my box when effects are on, os i just turn the effects off.
[13:15] <lanoxx> blkdg, all effects are already turned of
[13:15] <blkdg> lanoxx, right.
[13:15] <lanoxx> blkdg, infact the have never beens switched on
[13:16] <blkdg> ummm, i810 is a very well supported chipset. give me a sec
[13:16] <blkdg> lanoxx, any new apps added in the last 2 days?
[13:16] <blkdg> any system wide upgrades lanoxx ?
[13:17] <lcb> LjL , i used  checkinstall to build the package, then dpkg -I filename.deb :) thanks
[13:17] <blkdg> lanoxx, latest flash installed?
[13:20] <blkdg> lanoxx, can you lspci and look for VGA. paste that 1 line here
[13:20] <mikubuntu> help!! trying to install mypaint from the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint , but i think there must be something missing after the instruction for line 4 -- would someone be able to have a look for me?  it gets to a point where the prompt reads: mikubuntu@mikubuntu-laptop:~/mypaint-0.7.1$   and i don't know what to do next.
[13:21] <Who> Guys i am having crackling sound in 5.1 surround sound
[13:21] <mrks_> heyho
[13:22] <lanoxx> blkdg, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[13:22] <Who> its realtek ACL888
[13:22] <blkdg> mikubuntu, you are in the mypaint dir.
[13:22] <minimec> mikubuntu: It's in the software repository now http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mypaint&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[13:22] <minimec> mikubuntu: --> sudo apt-get install mypaint
[13:22] <juk> !info mypaint
[13:23] <LogicallyDashing> I've got a remote machine that I can access just fine through regular ssh, but when I try to mount a directory with sudo sshfs, I get "read: Connection reset by peer". Curiously, the remote machine can mount directories on the local machine this way. What's happening?
[13:23] <mikubuntu> but minimec, i don't have a proper prompt to enter code do i?
[13:23] <minimec> mikubuntu: open a simple terminal or install it with synaptic or the new software manager
[13:23] <Who> Guys i am having crackling sound in 5.1 surround sound
[13:24] <Who> realtek aLC 888 ?
[13:25] <finwin> hi
[13:25] <lanoxx> blkdg, the versions is Package: flashplugin-installer
[13:25] <lanoxx> Version: 10.2.152.27ubuntu0.10.10.1
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> LogicallyDashing:  try sshfs as a normal user, not root. or tell it what user to user as the user for sshfs
[13:25] <lanoxx> blkdg, and Package: flashplugin-nonfree Version: 10.2.152.27ubuntu0.10.10.1
[13:25] <mikubuntu> minimec, heres what i have in the terminal right now ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569610/  do you mean that i should open a second terminal and sudo?
[13:25] <induz> I have KDE and Gnome, now, how can i switch between them??
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> induz:  at the LOGIN: screen (gdm or kdm) theres a menu item somewhere
[13:26] <LogicallyDashing> Dr_Willis: thanks, that worked
[13:26] <Fuchs> induz: you can choose the desktop environment in your display manager, gdm/kdm, where you log in
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> LogicallyDashing:  root user cant ssh in. :) thats the logic of the issue.
[13:26] <induz> Dr_Willis, so I have to relog everytime
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> induz:  yes.. makes sence.
[13:27]  * Dr_Willis recalls years and years ago   - accidently being able to run kde and gnome at the same time on the same desktop.. really goofed things up.
[13:27] <mikubuntu> minimec, heres what i have in the terminal right now ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569610/  do you mean that i should open a second terminal and sudo?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> the 2 play together much better now
[13:27] <blkdg> lanoxx, ok, so two days ago youtube worked. what have you installed SINCE then?
[13:28] <minimec> mikubuntu: Dude open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install mypaint'. That is all you need. No dev packages, nothing. Just install mypaint. That's it.
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> The joys of a package manager system :)
[13:29] <silverlightning> hi
[13:29] <lanoxx> blkdg, only the normal system updates
[13:29] <blkdg> lanoxx, read this
[13:29] <blkdg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10449990
[13:29] <lanoxx> blkdg, i found something else just now
[13:30] <silverlightning> I am looking for the right package for Java in Maverick, online banking and related applicaitons
[13:30] <lanoxx> blkdg, i clicked on the little lego cube in firefox and it says something about gnash but doesnt mention flash (even its installed)
[13:30] <silverlightning> I have been searching in package manager and theres a lot of Java packages, but no for plain java
[13:31] <mikubuntu> minimec, so all the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint are superfluous?
[13:31] <blkdg> lanoxx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10449990
[13:31] <silverlightning> is online banking safe at all in Ubuntu?
[13:31] <venilsurya> I can't play fullscreen games in virtualbox because the display isn't compatible. How do I rectify this?
[13:31] <Gnea> silverlightning: it's as safe as doing it from windows or a mac
[13:31] <troubadour> is it big party?
[13:31] <minimec> mikubuntu: Yes, as they were ment fot ubuntu 9.04, and now we use 10.04 or 10.10 ;)
[13:31] <blkdg> mikubuntu, they were needed at one point. according to minimec its in the repo now
[13:31] <troubadour> 1486 ppl=)
[13:32] <ikonia> silverlightning: no more/less than any other OS
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> venilsurya:  you did install the virtualbox guest addations inside the os in vbox?
[13:32] <Gnea> !java | silverlightning
[13:32] <silverlightning> well, at least not too bad
[13:32] <silverlightning> hmm
[13:32] <Gnea> silverlightning: without getting specific, no one can really answer that question
[13:32] <venilsurya> Dr Willis: Yes, and I can run it in both fullscreen and seamless modes.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> silverlightning:  sun java is in the partenrst repositoruy. or the icedtea java should work fine.
[13:32] <mikubuntu> minimec and blkdg, so do i need to autoremove anything?
[13:33] <silverlightning> thanks ubottu
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> venilsurya:  sounds like a bug in the game/driver issue since  vbox sort of fakes its own video card.
[13:33] <minimec> mikubuntu: you could definitly try that before installing mypaint.
[13:33] <Gnea> So I installed the 64bit version of Hulu Desktop and it's not letting me login or pull up any information from the internet, what gives?
[13:33] <silverlightning> Dr_Willis, I am a bit linux illiterate; partenrst repository?
[13:33] <venilsurya> Dr_Willis: It happens for a number of games, not just one. How do I rectify it if its a driver issue?
[13:33] <Gnea> er, waitasec... it finally just kicked in
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> !java | silverlightning
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> venilsurya:  i dont play games in vbox. i use wine. Perhaps check the vbox forums.
[13:34] <mikubuntu> minimec, no i did the installation already, i'm just wondering if in the process i started from that install page has stored unneeded files somewhere that i should remove?
[13:34] <silverlightning> If I understand this correctly it is best to install from package manager or terimila rather than directly from Javas own site
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> silverlightning:  use the package manager when possible. rule  #1 :)
[13:35] <Gnea> silverlightning: that is correct
[13:35] <blkdg> Dr_Willis, just curious, have you been around irc for about 10 years now, or am I thinking about another physician?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> package manager 'or' terminal... the 2 are the same basically.
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> blkdg:  im not a real doctor. :)
[13:35] <silverlightning> thanks for the confirmation Dr_Willis, I'm not shore why, but I will follow the guidelines
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> blkdg:  ive been ircing since 1986 or shortly there after...
[13:36] <Gnea> grrr, hulu desktop won't stream
[13:36] <silverlightning> however there are a lot of packages when I plot in Java
[13:36] <bindi> Dr_Willis: irc was invented on 1988
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> silverlightning:  if you install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package. it should install java and some other things you will want.
[13:36] <mikubuntu> minimec, mypaint appears in the menu now, but it doesn't launch
[13:36] <blkdg> thanks Dr_Willis
[13:36] <minimec> mikubuntu: if I a reading well installation failed, so you didn't install anything but the dev packages. Autoremove might remove them again.
[13:37] <jo-erlend> how do I enable an application to cover the panel? I want to do that because then I can run a vbox instance seemlessly on a workspace.
[13:37] <silverlightning> restricted extras are found in package manager?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> bindi:  as i said..  or.... since i started ircing when i was in college.. and i rember compiling 'irc' on the schools sun systems..
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> silverlightning:  yes..
[13:37] <silverlightning> good
[13:37] <bindi> Dr_Willis: just saying :p
[13:37] <silverlightning> thanks again
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> bindi:  im lucky i even rember the year i went to college..
[13:37] <Freespark> Hi all
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> bindi:  i DID irc on 'printing green bar' terminals.. that used paper and no screen/disp[lay  :)
[13:38] <bindi> Dr_Willis: lol. i wasnt even born then :(
[13:38] <bindi> too offtopic now i guess :p
[13:38] <blkdg> lanoxx, that url help?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> irc history for $100
[13:38] <invaderzim1> I'm having a nightmare with a long time dependecy problem with libavcodec52
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> bye all.. bbl
[13:39] <silverlightning> I shall have to look for the right packages only running package manager, I messed up something awful when running update manager and install together with other aplications
[13:39] <LogicallyDashing> So, I've mounted something by sftp in the graphical user interface... how do I access it on the command line? Where is it?
[13:39] <minimec> if it is installed you should have a file /usr/bin/mypaint
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> invaderzim1:  you used some repos from webupd8 or omgubuntu .. can cause issues like that
[13:39]  * juk selling celebrity history on ubuntu support channel
[13:39]  * juk irc history
[13:39] <Freespark> Anyone know why my system freeze whenever I eject pcmcia card? I also have a problem with loosing connection. The only way I know of to get it back is to reboot the machine!
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[13:40] <blkdg> hello, my old acer travelmate laptop with an sis video card will suspend, but the monitor will not turn on.  all power managment options are off, and there is no screensaver associated. i am using ubuntu 10.4 32 bit. how do i turn on the monitor after the suspend?
[13:40] <mikubuntu> minimec, any idea why it is still not launching from the menu?
[13:41] <blkdg> mikubuntu, try which mypaint
[13:41] <blkdg> mikubuntu, this way you can see which one is in your path
[13:41] <mikubuntu> blkdg, don't understand what you mean
[13:42] <Darkly> is it normal for creating USB boot to take a long time?
[13:42] <blkdg> mikubuntu, try 'which mypaint' from a term
[13:42] <mikubuntu> ok
[13:42] <minimec> mikubuntu: open a terminal and type my<tab> do you see any mypaint application?
[13:42] <blkdg> mikubuntu, so which one is in your path, the one you installed now, or the earlier one?
[13:43] <blkdg> just paste the 'which mypaint' output here
[13:43] <invaderzim1> I'm having a nightmare with a long time dependecy problem with libavcodec52, can anyone help me?
[13:43] <blkdg> Darkly, depends on usb stick speed, ram on pc etc.
[13:43] <mikubuntu> minimec, from which mypaint i get   /usr/local/bin/mypaint
[13:43] <blkdg> Darkly, puppylinux opens very fast on usb
[13:44] <Darkly> blkdg, it says around 100minutes. the usb stick i use is quite slow..
[13:44] <blkdg> Darkly, try puppylinux
[13:44] <Darkly> blkdg, puppylinux is another distribution different from ubuntu?
[13:45] <invaderzim1> Dr_Willis: no I didn't... when I try to install mplayer it conflicts... it seems k3b codecs (and vlc) is conflicting with the mplayer libavcodec...
[13:45] <mikubuntu> minimec and blkdg , when i type my(tab)  it completes to mypaint
[13:45] <blkdg> mikubuntu, did you ever uninstall the one you attempted to install first before you followed minimec instructions?
[13:45] <blkdg> Darkly, yes
[13:45] <blkdg> mikubuntu, then hit enter again to run it
[13:46] <mikubuntu> blkdg, no he din't instruct me to uninstall anything
[13:46] <Darkly> blkdg, many thanks mate!
[13:46] <blkdg> yeah mikubuntu he did .
[13:47] <blkdg> mikubuntu, he said ->  mikubuntu: you could definitly try that before installing mypaint.
[13:47] <minimec> mikubuntu: ok. Even then I would try to just install mypaint with sudo apt-get install mypaint. It will overwrite the file you compiled.
[13:47] <mikubuntu> blkdg, i don't believe he did, he just told me to simply use sudo apt-get install mypaint ... i had already executed that when he said what you quoted
[13:47] <blkdg> mikubuntu, he said ->  mikubuntu: you could definitly try that before installing mypaint.
[13:48] <blkdg> ah
[13:48] <blkdg> ok.
[13:48] <qwertyberty> msg nickserv
[13:48] <qwertyberty> :(
[13:48] <blkdg> try this mikubuntu locate mypaint.
[13:48] <blkdg> mikubuntu, then rm every thing there
[13:48] <awanti> Hi, I want to Login my friend Ubuntu machine from different location.
[13:48] <KucukMubasir> hi guys, how may I search files with different extensions at once. i.e find . -name "*.jpg", "*.jpeg" . this command didn't work of course
[13:48] <blkdg> mikubuntu, then follow minimec instructions for the install
[13:49] <blkdg> awanti, from a term?
[13:49] <awanti> term?
[13:49] <mikubuntu> blkdg, i don't know how to rm everything there i still a three year newbie :(
[13:49] <blkdg> mikubuntu, locate mypaint then copy that to pastebin.com and tell us the url here
[13:50] <blkdg> awanti, from a terminal emmulator
[13:50] <jrib> KucukMubasir: use '-or'
[13:50] <blkdg> awanti, the little black window
[13:50] <mikubuntu> blkdg this is what i got a few mins ago in term :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569625/
[13:50] <blkdg> awanti, do you want a remote desktop type experience?
[13:51] <blkdg> huh mikubuntu ? try locate mypaint then paste that into pastebin
[13:51] <KucukMubasir> jrib: can you give me the exact expression, I don't know where to put that "-or"
[13:51] <KucukMubasir> after or before "-name"
[13:51] <KucukMubasir> or between extensions?
[13:52] <blkdg> KucukMubasir, http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/unix/findcmd.htm
[13:52] <mikubuntu> blkdg, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569626/
[13:53] <lanoxx> blkdg, i fixed it with flashaid :)
[13:53] <blkdg> ok, those are a deskopt shortcut and a .png just use rm as root and that entire path. that should get rid of them (DO THIS ONE AT A TIME)
[13:54] <KucukMubasir> darn
[13:54] <lanoxx> blkdg, thats really great, thanks alot
[13:54] <blkdg> lanoxx, np
[13:54] <blkdg> mikubuntu, once those are gone try minimec instructions to install from the repo
[13:55] <Dex-Freudii> how can I get access to the X server when connecting to a machine using ssh?
[13:55] <mikubuntu> blkdg, i don't know what you mean
[13:55] <mikubuntu> blkdg, how do i make them be gone?
[13:56] <blkdg> mikubuntu, as root -> rm /usr/share/app-install/desktop/mypaint.desktop
[13:56] <blkdg> mikubuntu, as root then -> rm /usr/share/app-install/icons/mypaint.png
[13:56] <Justin_kkkk> I want gtk themes? Frm whr do i get tht? Is there ny site?
[13:56] <mikubuntu> blkdg    so sudo rm /usr/share/app-install/desktop/mypaint.desktop  ?
[13:57] <Guest5453> i'm trying to delete a programm called, mpd, but it doesn't work. when i type "sudo aptitude purge dpm", i always get the message "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".. what can I do to remove it?
[13:57] <blkdg> just su first mikubuntu
[13:57] <[q^_^p]> some help to get my webcam work
[13:57] <ruan> Justin_kkkk: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2   is this what you're looking for?
[13:57] <arunkumar> Justin_kkkk:  go to ths site http://ubuntu-india.blogspot.com/2011/02/download-top-10-gtk-2-theme-for-ubuntu.html
[13:57] <qwertyberty> Can anyone tell me why I can't use nickserv? It ignores my messages
[13:58] <blkdg> mikubuntu, then do what minimec said -> sudo apt-get install mypaint
[13:58] <Justin_kkkk> Thnks ruan
[13:58] <ruan> np
[13:58] <Justin_kkkk> thnks arunkumar
[13:58] <asdfghj> i'm trying to delete a programm called, mpd, but it doesn't work. when i type "sudo aptitude purge dpm", i always get the message "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".. what can I do to remove it?
[13:58] <[q^_^p]> some help to get my webcam work
[13:58] <silverlightning> hi again
[13:58] <blkdg> qwertyberty, '/msg nickserv
[13:58] <qwertyberty> '/msg nickserv
[13:59] <[q^_^p]> http://img171.imageshack.us/i/20110220008.jpg/
[13:59] <[q^_^p]> http://img203.imageshack.us/i/20110220005p.jpg/
[13:59] <Justin_kkkk> is thr more sites othr than these?
[13:59] <ruan> Justin_kkkk: google can help you there
[13:59] <[q^_^p]> Linux [^_^] 2.6.35.8 #1 SMP Sun Nov 14 06:32:36 EST 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:00] <qwertyberty> blkdg, I get a private message window but no reply when I type something there. It's like nickserv isn't listening.
[14:00] <Dex-Freudii> asdfghj, more info ?
[14:00] <mikubuntu> blkdg, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569632/  i don't think it worked
[14:00] <Guest56020> hi
[14:00] <blkdg> qwertyberty, try #help
[14:00] <silverlightning> how bad is it to install from the package links on the ubuntu site? for addons, flash, java?
[14:01] <Guest56020> What's wrong with my VI under ubuntu 10.10 ? Backspace does not work !
[14:01] <asdfghj> Dex-Freudii, which info do you need?
[14:01] <blkdg> mikubuntu, try rm -r /path/to/file when you are root
[14:01] <silverlightning> have you java and flash player up and running?
[14:01] <Guest56020> name
[14:02] <mikubuntu> blkdg, you are over my head now, sorry
[14:02] <blkdg> silverlightning, point and click via the software centre
[14:02] <mikubuntu> blkdg, i used 'sudo' doesn't that make me root?
[14:02] <blkdg> mikubuntu, should
[14:02] <minimec> mikubuntu: blkdg: I know this is offtopic, but in the meantime I was able to cook (and eat) some fine beef with noodles, reading you still having that simple 'sudo apt-get install mypaint' problem. This is simply amazing.... ;)
[14:02] <barberan> What's wrong with my VI under ubuntu 10.10 ? Backspace does not work, instead of erasing, it prints gibberish... Help please.
[14:03] <minimec> mikubuntu: Again!!! Do sudo ap-get install mypaint. That's it.
[14:03] <mikubuntu> minimec, wheres the beef
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> barberan:  perhaps its got the old fashined backspace-delete key reversed..
[14:03] <blkdg> mikubuntu, do what minimec said
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> barberan:  also you may want to install the full vi package.
[14:03] <mikubuntu> minimec, i did that and it seemed to install, the icons are in the menu but it doesn't launch
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> barberan:  or youyr term setting is incorect
[14:03] <silverlightning> blkdg, is that all right? I was looking for a list of commands for terminal but the links are easier
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  run it from a terminal. look for messages/errors.
[14:04] <barberan> Dr_Willis, how do I stall full vi ? Btw, I am using default 10.10
[14:04] <blkdg> silverlightning, yup
[14:04] <bastidra1or> barberan: you probably need to install the full version of vim. ubuntu comes with a somewhat botched version
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> barberan:  its in the repos.. vim-light is the default
[14:04] <barberan> bastidra1or, ok, thx
[14:04] <mikubuntu> why doesn't someone delete the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint which is the cause apparently of this problem
[14:04] <barberan> Dr_Willis, that's clear. Thanks
[14:04] <piotao> hi.
[14:04] <minimec> mikubuntu: I don't know what you did. It took me 30 seconds to install mypaint and mypaint-data on ubuntu 10.10. mypaint up and running here...
[14:05] <mikubuntu> minimec, this is what i did https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint
[14:05] <mikubuntu> minimec, it was the first thing i asked for help with
[14:06] <blkdg> ok, minimec shouldn't he rm all the files that he made, then try the line you gave him?
[14:06] <jo-erlend> how can I make one application float on top of the panels?
[14:07] <barberan> Dr_Willis, Interestingly, what is the reason to provide vim-light by default ? I can't imagine... The harddisk space is not the cause, I suppose
[14:07] <mikubuntu> minimec, i was already to the 4th line of code when you told me to abort that and do the simple sudo command -- are you guys able to edit/delete that page?
[14:07] <blkdg> mikubuntu, when you go to the softwarecentre, is it there for download?
[14:08] <bastidraZor> jo-erlend: alt right click > always on top ?
[14:08] <dxy> i just installed netbook remix, what is the default passwd it didnt ask during installation
[14:08] <mikubuntu> blkdg, i din't try that since the instructions on the support page 'seemed' straightforward enough
[14:08] <veeker> 可以使用中文吗 ？
[14:08] <ruan> !cn
[14:08] <mijk> I can't seem to get my custom ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs entries to remain after I reboot or log back in
[14:08] <jo-erlend> bastidraZor: no, that doesn't work.
[14:08] <silverlightning> what do you do with a list like this ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/metapackages/java/
[14:08] <silverlightning> just pick and choose randomly?
[14:09] <elderman> jo-erlend, in the window title
[14:09] <jo-erlend> bastidraZor: actually it does, just not for the application I want it to work with.
[14:09] <induz> whar r the others active chanells/
[14:09] <blkdg> mikubuntu, Dr_Willis asked you to run it from a term Have you done that?
[14:09] <induz> same like ubuntu at freenode
[14:09]  * Cradam is back (gone 01:34:40)
[14:10] <blkdg> mikubuntu, run it from a term like Dr_Willis said, and pastebin the output
[14:10] <jo-erlend> bastidraZor: I was hoping I could get Windows' taskbar go on top of the bottom GNOME panel, but that doesn't seem to work :(
[14:10] <minimec> mikubuntu: blkdg: Ok boys. open a terminal and type 'sudo nautilus --no-destkop' in it. I topens a 'root' file manager. Then he can remove this two files in that app-installdirectory. Then close that file-manager again and do (guess what) suso apt-get install mypaint. Afterwards you might also do 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[14:10] <Kranix> How do you delete a folder that you deleted locally from Ubuntu One?
[14:10] <mikubuntu> blkdg, ok
[14:10] <bastidraZor> jo-erlend: hide the bottom panel .. autohide
[14:10] <jo-erlend> bastidraZor: I know that's a possibility, but not for just one workspace, I think?
[14:10] <induz> is there any other IRC channel like ubuntu 2 freenid
[14:11] <Kranix> Can't you just set it like that in all workspaces, jo-erlend?
[14:11] <mijk> is user-dirs.dirs generated automatically and replaces whatever entires I make??
[14:11] <blkdg> minimec, nice, but I think it's running from a term, just no icon. he said that earlier (i think)
[14:11] <elderman> induz, take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:12] <bastidraZor> jo-erlend: you can actually delete the bottom panel IF you keep the top panel.
[14:12] <mikubuntu> blkdg minimec and dr_willis   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569636/
[14:13] <minimec> mikubuntu: ok. Even then I would try to just install mypaint with sudo apt-get install mypaint. It will overwrite the file you compiled.
[14:13] <jo-erlend> bastidraZor: I'm aware of that too, but I still want this only on one workspace.
[14:13] <minimec> mikubuntu: I allready told you that before cooking!!!
[14:13] <induz> elderman, its asking me to install some aplication
[14:13] <mikubuntu> minimec, i will try that again
[14:13] <blkdg> mikubuntu, do what minimec suggests ->  sudo apt-get install mypaint
[14:13] <root____> exit
[14:14] <bastidraZor> jo-erlend: you may need to mess around with some compiz settings to make that work.
[14:14] <elderman> induz, what is asking you?
[14:14] <minimec> mikubuntu: blkdg: Just anote. I was able to clean the kitchen meanwhile... ;)
[14:14] <silverlightning> is adobe still the best flashplayer?
[14:14] <induz> Mibbit?
[14:15] <Cradam> silverlightning, adobe is the only flash player
[14:15] <blkdg> minimec, don't drag me into your chores ....
[14:15] <bastidraZor> silverlightning: adobe is a working flashplayer, for most
[14:15] <silverlightning> oh I see
[14:15] <Kranix> Cradam, it isn't
[14:15] <Kranix> There's others, but they are outdated
[14:15] <Cradam> i thought flash was propietary
[14:15] <elderman> induz, if I understood your question, you're looking for other irc channels to discuss ubuntu and look for help?
[14:15] <Kranix> Only able to play up to flash 8 fully, 9 partially and 10 not at all
[14:15] <mikubuntu> minimec, doesn't seem to overwrite will post the output in a sec .. i have icons in the menu, but fails to launch
[14:15] <blkdg> minimec, nothing wrong with rm'ing those files first. btw...
[14:15] <silverlightning> it is, but for some reason adobe runs lighter and more easily in my experience
[14:15] <bastidraZor> silverlightning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash   may help
[14:16] <Kranix> The GNU flash player I don't remember the name of, that is
[14:16] <minimec> blkdg: I agree..
[14:16] <Kranix> Yeah, I use Adobe too.
[14:16] <induz> elderman, yes but the website for kbuntu is asking mfor Mobbit>
[14:16] <induz> mibbit
[14:16] <blkdg> minimec, lets get him to updatedb then locate mypaint then he can search and destroy by hand then he runs your line
[14:16] <mikubuntu> minimec, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569638/
[14:16] <blkdg> mikubuntu, one sec
[14:16] <Kranix> FYI, Mibbit is a web IRC client
[14:17] <elderman> induz, I'm still figuring out your situation.  Are you connecting through a website?
[14:17] <mikubuntu> blkdg, k, thx
[14:17] <Cradam> hi is anyone familiar with universal usb installer?
[14:18] <minimec> mikubuntu: ok. that package is installed. Now when you start the software from a console, does it run?
[14:18] <mikubuntu> minimec, nope
[14:18] <minimec> mikubuntu: What version of ubuntu?
[14:18] <induz> elderman, I want some help on kbuntu..i am at appli-->internet--IRC
[14:19] <mikubuntu> minimec, 1004
[14:19] <silverlightning> bastidraZor, its' really difficult to really know what to install ?
[14:19] <openbees> i getting following error during check for update W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC7B7B7D4439DBD6
[14:19] <elderman> induz, is the application XChat?
[14:19] <elderman> induz, are you an experienced irc user?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> iinduz join#kubuntu
[14:19] <induz> elderman, yes
[14:20] <induz> elderman, I am ne
[14:20] <minimec> mikubuntu: ok. It is working here on my laptop, but on 10.10.
[14:20] <bastidraZor> silverlightning: if i am remembering right.. ubuntu-restricted-extras  will install flash for you.
[14:20] <induz>  join#kubuntu
[14:20] <Pretto> i'm playing a dvd but getting only sound, what do I have to do?
[14:20] <mikubuntu> minimec, i'm a newbie, my first version was 704 :(
[14:20] <mikubuntu> minimec, ok, i'll come to your place
[14:20] <minimec> mikubuntu: while compiling you never did 'sudo make install' did you?
[14:20] <mikubuntu> haha
[14:21] <minimec> mikubuntu: ;)
[14:21] <elderman> induz, you have to preface the command with a slash
[14:21] <mikubuntu> i was at the fourth line of code on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint
[14:21] <mikubuntu> when the problem started
[14:21] <blkdg> minimec, how about he tries apt-get purge package
[14:21] <BluesKaj> induz, if you are running kubuntu then click here : #kubuntu , if you just want irc help then stay here
[14:22] <blkdg> got to run
[14:22] <minimec> mikubuntu: 4th line is "customisable pressure mapping interface for human input devices to"
[14:22] <silverlightning> I have error messages in Update Manager, tells me to insert a CD?
[14:22] <minimec> mikubuntu: where exactly?
[14:22] <mikubuntu> blkdg minimec and dr_willis , does one of you have the rank to pull that page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint ? :)
[14:22] <induz> thanks BluesKaj
[14:23] <minimec> mikubuntu: I don't
[14:23] <Vanuatoo> Hello, I need to have some software, alternative to pinnacle. I need to transfer video file from my minidv camcorder to the PC
[14:23] <bastidraZor> silverlightning: System > Administration > Software Sources .. then uncheck Installable from CD-ROM/DVD
[14:23] <minimec> mikubuntu: Please show me your 4th line. I don't understand what you mean with 4th line...
[14:24] <mikubuntu> minimec, huh?  fourth line of code is :: cd mypaint-0.7.1
[14:24] <silverlightning> thanks
[14:24] <induz> no one talks at 3kbuntu
[14:24] <induz> #kbuntu
[14:24] <mikubuntu> minimec, on the instructions on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint
[14:24] <induz> what is the actul difference between kBuntu and ubuntu
[14:25] <silverlightning> I thought I installed lates Java 6 but nothing works?
[14:25] <induz> after installing kbuntu my system i slow
[14:25] <elderman> induz, what are the specs of your system?
[14:25] <silverlightning> If I cave in a download via archive manager?
[14:25] <minimec> mikubuntu: so you installed nothing (as I said). Can you give me the outputline on the terminal, when you launch mypaint?
[14:26] <AlexSLVR> Help me please, i'm install some new GTK rngines, and wallpaper has gone. on desktop i can see inly white or black colour.
[14:26] <minimec> mikubuntu: you never did 'sudo scons prefix=/usr/local install', did you?
[14:27] <mijk> I can't seem to get my custom ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs entries to remain after I reboot or log back in
[14:28] <mikubuntu> minimec, no i only got to the line b4 that one
[14:28] <mikubuntu> minimec, launch from term = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569641/
[14:30] <minimec> mikubuntu: Well your pastebin sais other tings. Open a terminal and open 'sudo nautilus --no-desktop', then go to /usr/local/bin/
[14:31] <gohan4748> ##suckless
[14:32] <dhooser> hello all
[14:32] <minimec> mikubuntu: I see now that you did(!) compile mypaint in /usr/local/. You have to remove /usr/local/bin/mypaint and the /usr/local/mypaint folder.
[14:32] <dhooser> how do you change the boot splash in ubuntu?
[14:33] <Onryo> How do I revert my Nvidia 270 graphics drivers back to the Nvidia 260. Using Maverick
[14:33] <mikubuntu> minimec, since i ran sudo apt-get install mypaint as you told me, it may have compiled, i promise you i din't compile cause i don't know how :)
[14:34] <mikubuntu> minimec, yes, in nautilus, at usr/local/bin there is some kind of mypaint file what would you have me do?
[14:34] <Vanuatoo> Is there a way to transfer a footage from mini dv camcorder to pc?
[14:34] <Onryo> This is really a big problem. The new Nvidia 270.18 graphics drivers are crashing VMWare Workstation.
[14:35] <minimec> mikubuntu: delete that file, also the folder /usr/local/mypaint
[14:35] <induz> Vanuatoo, yes
[14:35] <Vanuatoo> induz, can you tell me the program name please?
[14:35] <minimec> mikubuntu: That should be it.
[14:35] <mikubuntu> minimec, how?  just rightclick and delete?
[14:35] <krillin> ##suckless
[14:35] <compdoc> Onryo, you put the drivers into a VM, or the drivers are crashing the host?
[14:35] <minimec> mikubuntu: Exactly.
[14:36] <Odaym> how do i make ".wmv" work on my Ubuntu?
[14:36] <xangua> Odaym: install codecs
[14:36] <Odaym> i press on search for plugin, and comes up with error "cannot find for video/.axf"
[14:36] <Odaym> or some sort
[14:36] <dhooser> !! tty
[14:36] <xangua> ubuntu-restricted-extras if you use gnome Odaym
[14:36] <mikubuntu> minimec, will rightclick and 'cut' work?  i apparently din't put delete on this menu yet
[14:36] <Odaym> video/x-asf-unknown decoder
[14:36] <Odaym> ok
[14:37] <Odaym> already have those, xangua
[14:37] <Odaym> they dont include wmv in the description
[14:37] <Onryo> compdoc I have Maverick as my host machine and VMWare running clients. When I upgraded my drivers on Maverick the VM started crashing.
[14:37] <Odaym> wmv is in the GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin package
[14:37] <xangua> Odaym: then try Vlc
[14:37] <Odaym> which i already have
[14:37] <Odaym> i did, error
[14:38] <compdoc> Onryo, sadly, sometimes those 3rd party drivers work well, and sometimes not
[14:38] <minimec> mikubuntu: One click on the file and then the delete key. With right-click , it's rubbish bin
[14:38] <Odaym> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[14:38] <kamalmv> updating ubuntu ultimate .. its shows error!!!
[14:38] <jrib> KucukMubasir: find -name foo -or -name bar
[14:38] <KucukMubasir> jrib: thanks, I resolved it :)
[14:38] <xangua> !ultimate | kamalmv
[14:38] <xangua> Odaym: mmm mplayer¿¿ :S
[14:38] <Odaym> mplayer?
[14:38] <silverlightning> I have trouble logging on to my  bank
[14:38] <Odaym> i dont think it's more supported than VLC
[14:38] <Onryo> compdoc yeah I kind of noticed. Would be nice to revert to the old Nvidia 260 drivers.
[14:38] <KucukMubasir> and -o is the preferred one
[14:39] <aphrek> Hi all, is there a short cut key to move between workspaces?
[14:39] <jrib> KucukMubasir: yep
[14:39] <kamalmv> ok thanks ubottu
[14:39] <Zeu5> can i jus verify that sopcast is working for other people?
[14:39] <mikubuntu> minimec, there is no delete in my nautilus gui
[14:39] <aeon-ltd> aphrek: you can define them in shortcuts, its in the menus
[14:39] <brontosaurusrexw> Odaym: i do use smplayer sometimes, its an almost decent gui for mplayer
[14:39] <aphrek> aeon-ltd - thanks
[14:39] <Zeu5> i cannot watch anything on sopcast currently.. ever since i reinstalled ubuntu
[14:40] <minimec> mikubuntu: One click on the file and then the delete key. With right-click , it's rubbish bin
[14:40] <minimec> mikubuntu: Read please!!!
[14:40] <jrib> !away > MC8|away
[14:40] <brontosaurusrexw> Odaym: for example setting the buffer to 20Megs was a project with VLC, where in smplayer was only few clicks away, not to mention vdpau
[14:40] <Odaym> but does it support "MSS2"?
[14:41] <Odaym> whatever that is..
[14:41] <kamalmv> ubottu: where can i get support for ultimate!
[14:41] <brontosaurusrexw> Odaym: i don't support wmv, vc1 and MS stuff anymore, so no idea really
[14:41] <brontosaurusrexw> Odaym: it might
[14:41] <codemagician> i have a 3rd hard-drive. A 2TB Western Digital 1002FAEX SATA III drive on the SATA III port on my MB.  Is there any benefit to using gpt over msdos as a partition for this drive?
[14:41] <Odaym> i'll see, these are Linux CBT videos
[14:41] <compdoc> ubottu, marry me
 Sorry, I don't know anything about marry me
[14:42] <mikubuntu> minimec, ok, i set the prefs to include a delete, and deleted the file ... now i should close nautilus and try sudo apt-get install mypaint  again?
[14:42] <codemagician> i have a 3rd hard-drive. A 2TB Western Digital 1002FAEX SATA III drive on the SATA III port on my MB.  Is there any benefit to using gpt over msdos as a partition table for this drive?
[14:42] <Odaym> very funny compdoc :P
[14:43] <minimec> mikubuntu: So if there is no mypaint file in /usr/local/bin anymore, open a console and srat mypaint again. Does it run?
[14:43] <Zeu5> can anyone use sopcast? i cannot use ever since i reinstalled ubuntu. is the server down? or something else? please help me confirm
[14:44] <misla>  :(
[14:44] <mikubuntu> minimec, ok, it launched from term, let me try the menu icons
[14:45] <annath> Ok, I have a question... I was at a programming contest recently and they were running some kind of script in the shell called "FriedScript" that added some interesting functionality(namely pretty colors XD). Anyway, I found the script but I am clueless as to how to set it up and there don't seem to be any instructions with it. Has anyone ever used this, and can anyone tell me how to install it?
[14:46] <iJosh> Hey
[14:46] <Zahrada> hi iJosh
[14:46] <annath> It appears to be a csh shell script but when I just try to run it, it kicks back some odd errors. :|
[14:46] <iJosh> how come Wine doesnt normally work?
[14:47] <mikubuntu> minimec, ok, seems to launch ok from menu also -- i am just curious about this output from the terminal can you look at it :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569650/
[14:47] <zprooz> Hiall
[14:47] <silverlightning> is it really meant to be that difficult to get java up and running?
[14:47] <finwin> hi im having a little problem...after i installed ubuntu my internet have been very slow...i disabled ipv6 from modprobe.conf..it didnt help. what to do? sry about my poor english
[14:47] <silverlightning> weird
[14:48] <minimec> mikubuntu: It's because we launched nautilus with 'sudo', that's all.
[14:48] <iJosh> Its been sloq finwin cause you probably got a intenret cap for going over your downlaod limit, i had it, what isp have you got?
[14:48] <compdoc> finwin, I dont think ipv6 slows anything down that Ive seen
[14:49] <zprooz> I have an issue about mouse setting, I am using logitech G1 mouse, and I want to set mouse action to the middle key and the forth key. Any idea ? thanks
[14:49] <minimec> mikubuntu: That story took as more than an hour. Before compiling something, please check the software repository... ;)
[14:49] <mikubuntu> minimec, ok .. well thanks, i appreciate.  now if i knew how to draw, this would be a fantastic program
[14:50] <JQQ> Is there a way to move the topbar in Ubuntu to the bottom and get rid of the bottom bar?
[14:50] <mikubuntu> minimec, it wouldn't have happend if that help page were not there -- how to we bring that to someone's attention?
[14:50] <bastidraZor> JQQ: yes, delete the bottom panel. alt left click the top panel and drag it down
[14:50] <xangua> JQQ: press Alt and grag it
[14:50] <JQQ> nice! thank you
[14:51] <JQQ> how do you delete the panel?
[14:51] <bastidraZor> JQQ: right click it
[14:51] <JQQ> ok...seems almost too easy, lol ty i thought it would be harder
[14:52] <zongo> greeting guys
[14:53] <elderman> annath, .cshrc should probably go in the home directory
[14:53] <elderman> annath, is that what you were asking?
[14:53] <zongo> I was wondering if anyone could help understanding a bit more about netfiltering my network ?
[14:53] <minimec> mikubuntu: Why didn't you just check the software managing tools provided with your system. Why do you think they exist. In Ubuntu, always first try to directly install software with synaptic or the Ubuntu Software Center.
[14:53] <zprooz> Hi all, I have an issue about mouse setting, I am using logitech G1 mouse, and I want to set mouse action to the middle key and the fourth key. Any idea ? thanks
[14:54] <LIJI> My HTPC running Ubuntu won't go to sleep. It gets stuck in a terminal mode with the line "Checking Battery State". I tried disabling ACPI and now it gets stuck with a different line, "setting sensor limits"
[14:54] <LIJI> How do I solve it?
[14:54] <zongo> the gal her is to filter my private network with ubuntu
[14:54] <n_np> hello, i'm trying to set up a virtual guest but the 'Local install media' is disabled
[14:54] <annath> I think. Do I just run it after that, or should it automatically start working?
[14:54] <elderman> annath, you have to be running csh
[14:54] <zongo> I have two boxes, one is my client running window and the other is ubuntu
[14:55] <annath> I ma
[14:55] <annath> am*
[14:55] <zongo> I am using ufw and the ubuntu box
[14:55] <annath> "uncomplete: Command not found."
[14:55] <annath> :/
[14:55] <zongo> which works great but I want the ubuntu box the filter the client connection as well
[14:55] <mikubuntu> minimec, for the last four years since i started using linux, people in this room always have encouraged me to use the help pages and terminals as the 'best' way to do things.  the softwarecenter did not exist
[14:55] <zongo> how can I do that ?
[14:56] <elderman> annath, we're already reaching the edge of my knowledge about shells, but shouldn't the script run when you initialize a new shell?
[14:56] <minimec> mikubuntu: Yeah, but they shurely told you to install the software first with a package manager ;)
[14:56] <mikubuntu> usually i do check synaptic, and if i'm not mistaken i think i did look for mypaint in synaptic before i went to the help page
[14:56] <annath> that time it did, it just gave me that error when I opened a new shell
[14:56] <LIJI> Can anyone help me?
[14:57] <minimec> mikubuntu: and synaptic always existed...
[14:57] <annath> so I'm pretty sure I just have to resolve that and it'll work. thanks
[14:57] <jrib> !helpme | LIJI
[14:57] <zongo> anyone ?
[14:57] <elderman> annath, good luck
[14:57] <Zeu5> Hi i have been asking for help for a long time, sorry to sound rude. can someone just confirm with me that sopcast is working? i jus reinstalled ubuntu so i am not sure if its me or my ISP or the sopcast server
[14:57] <mikubuntu> minimec, a lot of packages don't appear in synaptic for one reason or another .. but anyways, thanks for all the help.  where's the beef (and noodles)?
[14:57] <LIJI> My HTPC running Ubuntu won't go to sleep. It gets stuck in a terminal mode with the line "Checking Battery State". I tried disabling ACPI and now it gets stuck with a different line, "setting sensor limits"
[14:57] <compdoc> its prolly you
[14:57] <boota2> Hello, I've got a problem with permissions, it's here: http://pastebin.com/SEQca0YD
[14:58] <elderman> zprooz, I have a new logitech mouse as well, and I've been wanting to see if I can reprogram the buttons.  Is that what you're after?
[14:58] <boota2> I created group "subversion", added user "aya" to it, chowned file nya.txt to group "subervsion" and chmoded file nya.txt to 660.
[14:58] <jrib> boota2: log out, log back in
[14:59] <Zeu5> Hi i have been asking for help for a long time, sorry to sound rude. can someone just confirm with me that sopcast is working? i jus reinstalled ubuntu so i am not sure if its me or my ISP or the sopcast server
[14:59] <jrib> Zeu5: please wait longer than 2 minutes before repeating
[14:59] <mikubuntu> minimec, apparently we can contribute to the help wiki :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
[14:59] <Onryo> How do I revert the x-swat Nvidia 270.18 drivers back to the "normal" 260.19 drives.
[14:59] <Zeu5> apologies jrib
[14:59] <minimec> mikubuntu: digesting, same as that mypaint story ... ;)
[15:00] <boota2> jrib: aya@aya-desktop:/home/svn/test$ echo "test" >> nya.txt
[15:00] <boota2> -bash: nya.txt: Permission denied
[15:00] <boota2> After relogin.
[15:00] <boota2> I don't uderstand what i'm doing wrong.
[15:00] <ikonia> boota2: please show me the output of the command "id"
[15:00] <boota2> *understand
[15:00] <elderman> Zeu5, the site is serving.  If no one has responded, my guess is no one online now uses sopcast.
[15:00] <minimec> mikubuntu: So be it. If you want to contribute, then be free to do so.
[15:00] <boota2> aya@aya-desktop:/home/svn/test$ id
[15:00] <boota2> uid=1000(aya) gid=1000(aya) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),105(lpadmin),118(admin),120(nopasswdlogin),121(sambashare),1000(aya)
[15:00] <FloodBot2> boota2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <Onryo> $ apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[15:00] <Onryo> nvidia-current:
[15:00] <Onryo>   Installed: 270.18-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1
[15:00] <Zeu5> thank u elderman
[15:00] <ikonia> boota2: as you can see, your user is not in the subversion group
[15:01] <boota2> groups aya \n aya : aya adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin nopasswdlogin sambashare subversion
[15:01] <mikubuntu> minimec, i am ANONYMOUS,  i do not contribute ... hahaha
[15:01] <ikonia> boota2: that means nothing,
[15:01] <boota2> Why it says that user aya is in subersion group?
[15:01] <boota2> How do i fix it?
[15:01] <ikonia> boota2: your current shell session needs to be restarted
[15:01] <mikubuntu> minimec, later gater, thx again
[15:01] <minimec> mikubuntu: cu
[15:01] <boota2> hmm
[15:02] <ikonia> boota2: I would suggest logging clean out of your desktop environment and back in to make sure all your shells are reset
[15:02] <boota2> oh
[15:02] <boota2> ok, i'll reboot vm
[15:02] <ikonia> boota2: you don't need to do that
[15:02] <jrib> you don't need to reboot, just log out and back in...
[15:02] <boota2> ah
[15:02] <boota2> ok, i'll try now
[15:03] <ikonia> boota2: didn't you say you had just done that ?
[15:03] <Onryo> Is there a dev irc for Ubuntu?
[15:03] <ikonia> jrib asked you to log out and back in and you said "done"
[15:03] <ikonia> Onryo: sure,
[15:03] <jrib> Onryo: dev of what?
[15:03] <Odaym> doesn't "useradd" work on Ubuntu?
[15:03] <ikonia> Onryo: yes
[15:03] <jrib> Odaym: sure
[15:03] <ikonia> Onryo: works fine
[15:03] <Odaym> but i did "useradd lisa"
[15:03] <Odaym> i go to /home and there's only me still
[15:03] <LIJI> Where can I ask for help in Ubuntu and actually get it?
[15:03] <jrib> Odaym: use "adduser" instead if you don't know how use userad
[15:03] <boota2> ikonia: I'm sorry, I just closed graphical terminal emulator and opend another.
[15:04] <ikonia> Onryo: that's not the correct syntax
[15:04] <ikonia> Onryo: learn how to use the command "man useradd"
[15:04] <Odaym> i dont
[15:04] <boota2> Now I did it for real
[15:04] <Odaym> but i saw someone doing it and going into /home and the user was created
[15:04] <Odaym> why wouldn't it work for me?
[15:04] <ikonia> Onryo: forget what you say
[15:04] <ikonia> saw
[15:04] <Odaym> all he did was "useradd name"
[15:04] <ikonia> Onryo: learn how to use the command, man adduser
[15:04] <jrib> Odaym: he used adduser.
[15:04] <ikonia> Onryo: man useradd
[15:04] <sporedi> how do i reinstall ubuntu desktop from command line
[15:04] <Odaym> no he used useradd
[15:04] <boota2> ikonia: it helped, thanks a lot.
[15:04] <codemagician> where should I mount an internal fixed drive /mnt/mydrive or /media/mydrive and why?
[15:04] <Odaym> useradd -D to show the defaults
[15:04] <Odaym> then useradd lisa
[15:05] <ikonia> Odaym: ok, then learn how to use useradd
[15:05] <ikonia> Odaym: man useradd
[15:05] <Odaym> now when i say adduser lisa, says lisa already exists
[15:05] <jrib> codemagician: mount it wherever you want.  /media seems to be customary nowadays, but it's only a convention
[15:05] <Odaym> where do i see her? isnt it in /home?
[15:05] <ikonia> Odaym: because you've already added the user lisa
[15:05] <Onryo> ikonia they work fine but for the 3D functions in VMWare Workstation they are crashing the 3D functions in the clients.
[15:05] <bou> was using libreoffice, pointer got round and seems it's all frozen
[15:05] <bou> mouse pointer still shows though
[15:05] <iJosh> www.youtube.com/xJoshox3 <- Subscribe please.!
[15:05] <jrib> Odaym: delete the user (deluser lisa) and then create again using « adduser lisa »
[15:05] <erUSUL> !spam | iJosh
[15:05] <BunnyFooFoo> Boooooooooom!
[15:06] <ikonia> Onryo: how has the 3d fuctions got anything to do with useradd
[15:06] <Odaym> alright jrib, that makes more sense (output-wise)
[15:06] <Odaym> new UNIX password?
[15:06] <codemagician> jrib, normally when I plug a device in it auto mounts.. would it be better to separate automounted drives to permantently mounted drives?
[15:06] <Odaym> just a normal password, it means, right?
[15:06] <Onryo> ikonia https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/709331
[15:06] <LIJI> I should have guessed giving Ubuntu yet another chance was a mistake. I should have used Mandriva or Fedora.
[15:07] <jrib> codemagician: totally up to you. Most things I actually put in my fstab will not be mounted in /media, but that's only because that's the way I like it
[15:07] <ikonia> Onryo: apologies, I think I may have got yours and Odaym's nick mixed up
[15:07] <codemagician> jrib, i kind of like the idea of leaving /media for the plug and remove usb pen drives and USB external drives so I guess the next traditional place would be /mnt ...
[15:08] <Onryo> ubotta and ikonia I thx for even answering.
[15:08] <jrib> codemagician: sure, or create your own
[15:08] <codemagician> jrib, is /mnt a legacy thing?
[15:08] <Tortola> hello
[15:09] <jrib> !fhs | codemagician
[15:09] <Tortola> i have problem with my automactly login
[15:09] <Tortola> i cannot
[15:09] <elderman> Hi Tortola
[15:09] <Tortola> i think that my custom.conf file is ok
[15:09] <Onryo> ubottu all the same the older 260 drivers are not effected by this bug. I would like to revert to them. I am a little worried that I can bork the host =/
[15:09] <Tortola> but i cannot login
[15:09] <Tortola> i mean automactlt
[15:09] <Tortola> i mean automactly
[15:10] <kayque> como vai
[15:10] <codemagician> jrib, aha... it says "/mnt is also a place for mount points, but dedicated specifically to "temporarily mounted" devices, such as network filesystems. " interesting
[15:10] <kayque> tem gent ai
[15:10] <Tortola> maybe someone can help me?
[15:10] <jrib> Tortola: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[15:11] <matt____> So I discovered something interesting regarding "ln -s". I have a Server, with an NFS share. on the Server I went to /home/matt/Data/, and then did "ln -s /var/www". From the Desktop, I connected to the Server's "Data" over NFS. However, to my surprise, when I click on the "www" in "Data", from my Desktop, it shows the "/var/www" OF MY DESKTOP. I just found this to be very interesting. Right now I am trying to figure out if there would
[15:11] <elderman> Tortola, tell us in more detail what's happening
[15:11] <matt____> Or is there a better way?
[15:11] <callaghan> blarg; apparently this is difficult to google.  The "Application Launchers" (Games, Education, Graphics, etc.), where are they located in the filesystem?
[15:11] <jrib> matt____: your message was truncated at "if there would ..."
[15:11] <Tortola> my problem: i cannot login automactly, i need write my password, when i try unlock the acces screen, i cannot
[15:12] <ikonia> matt____: thats how symlinks work
[15:12] <gsb> i am using gnome. if i install kubuntu-desktop and later on change my mind can i uninstall kubuntu-desktop and keep on using gnome? or would i have to reinstall?
[15:12] <Tortola> i just want login automactly
[15:12] <ikonia> gsb: that's fine
[15:12] <xangua> !puregnome | gsb
[15:12] <ikonia> gsb: you can have them both installed at the same time
[15:13] <onc3> hi
[15:13] <codemagician> jrib, may I ask.. what convention you use to mount internal secondary hard drives?
[15:13] <matt____> jrib: ikonia if there would be any harm in this: "mv /var/www /home/matt/Data/ && cd /var/ && ln -s /home/matt/Data/www" on my Server so that I may  see it on my Desktop and edit it accordingly, and the server see it for the web.
[15:13] <ikonia> matt____: you don't want to do that
[15:13] <ikonia> matt____: keep the data local to the web server
[15:13] <gsb> ikonia: i installed kde in 9.4/9.10 then gnome started using kde mouse pointers. so the system got all messed up and i had to reinstall :(
[15:13] <callaghan> browsing around on my own, I think the answer is here: /usr/share/applications
[15:13] <elderman> Tortola, what version of Ubuntu are you suing
[15:14] <jrib> codemagician: they usually have a specific purpose, so one is just my /home and another I just call /storage (and I tend to symlink into subdirectories here)
[15:14] <gsb> ikonia: i surely didn't knew abt pure gnome page that time
[15:14] <Tortola> 10.04, in the first everything was ok, later i installed kde, later i removed, and now i have this problem
[15:14] <matt____> ikonia: Well......on the Server, /home/matt/Data is just another hd on the server, I would be linking /var/www to /home/matt/Data/www, on the server as well. Do you mean I should leave the original files in /var/www for other reasons?
[15:14] <elderman> Tortola, so automatic login has worked for you before?
[15:14] <Tortola> elderman, yes
[15:14] <n_np> hello, i'm trying to set up a virtual guest but the 'Local install media' is disabled
[15:15] <Onryo> >.> cant there just be a "hot key" to make a pick GUI desktop with a rainbow pony to end half the questions here.
[15:15] <ikonia> matt____: ah, I thought one was a remote machine, personally, I wouldn't move the web root, but it's up to you
[15:15] <elderman> Tortola, you don't encrypt your file system do you?
[15:15] <matt____> ikonia: Would it be best just to setup /var/www as an additional nfs share and go from there? Would there be any reasons not to make /var/www rw for the user?
[15:15] <Tortola> no no
[15:15] <Tortola> i did nothing, just unistall kde
[15:15] <farewell> 发
[15:16] <ikonia> matt____: sounds fine
[15:16] <elderman> Tortola, and you can log in normally?
[15:16] <matt____> ikonia: IE, sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www
[15:16] <Tortola> yes
[15:16] <Tortola> i write my pass and i can login
[15:16] <elderman> Tortola, ok, thinking, and maybe someone else will chime in who has experience with automatic login.  I don't.
[15:17] <Tortola> elderman, thanx a lot
[15:17] <syn3rgy> Tortola just go into the screen saver settings and click on auto login
[15:19] <Odaym> strange..
[15:19] <Odaym> when i say "useradd lisa", lisa is added, but i cannot see her home directory added to the "/home" directory
[15:19] <Odaym> but when i say "adduser lisa", she is added and i am prompted for her info and her home directory exists in "/home"
[15:19] <bruteforce_allti> Hi, while programming I usually use gedit to open a file but to run the program, I always need to close the file first. Is there a solution?
[15:20] <ikonia> Odaym: I told you, useradd lisa is NOT the correct syntax
[15:20] <Odaym> but come to delete lisa using "deluser lisa", it says it is deleted but the home directory of hers remains in "/home"
[15:20] <ikonia> Odaym: useradd is a more advanced tool, you need to learn how to use it
[15:20] <ramnet> Odaym: that's normal. useradd and adduser aren't the same thing
[15:20] <Odaym> im sorry ikonia  but i am following someone in RH..
[15:20] <Odaym> on
[15:20] <ikonia> Odaym: then stop
[15:20] <bruteforce_allti> I mean I can just gedit file.cpp make changes and save. Run through the terminal without closing the file
[15:20] <matt____> ikonia: Would there be any possible security problems if anyone could write to /var/www? As in the command above? I'm running php and just wondering if there are any vulnerabilities that could possibly be used for an outsider to change the php files since root is not needed
[15:21] <ikonia> matt____: yes, that is a risk
[15:21] <ramnet> Odaym: because there might be important files in that users home directory so we don't delete those by default :)
[15:21] <syn3rgy> bruteforce_allti I would use Eclipse for C++ and Jave etc. I personally like DDD for C coding.
[15:21] <Odaym> i can rm -r them?
[15:22] <perlsyntax> How do i install the theme for gnomemenu?
[15:22] <ramnet> yes
[15:22] <Odaym> alright, already did
[15:22] <gsb> ikonia: the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome is really helpful, does it apply to 10.10 too?
[15:22] <elfasza> i am a newbie of linux :)
[15:23] <ikonia> gsb: sure
[15:23] <matt____> ikonia: So do you have any suggestions as to how I may accomlish what I wish? Or is it pretty much one way or the other,
[15:23] <bagustrix> hi...
[15:23] <perlsyntax> Anyone use gnomemenu at all?
[15:23] <elfasza> yes i am use gnomenu.. but i like KDE too..
[15:23] <ikonia> matt____: it's just about minimising risk to acceptable levels, I'm not %100 sure of what you actually want to do to be honest as the explination isn't %100 clear
[15:23] <bagustrix> anyone know how to add wine menu manually...? i just removed it from menu, and wanna back again..
[15:24] <elfasza> ow ow oww...
[15:24] <gsb> ikonia: thanks a lot
[15:24] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to get gnomemenu to work and get theme install for it?
[15:24] <Odaym> ah, i should learn to read the manuals more
[15:24] <Odaym> groupadd or useradd CREATES the group or add
[15:24] <Odaym> ADDuser adds it
[15:24] <elfasza> go to synaptic..
[15:24] <Odaym> :)
[15:25] <matt____> ikonia: I'm running wordpress, lamp server. I am trying to devise a simple way i can edit the Server from my Desktop without having to sftp, etc etc, and without having to worry about root permissions to edit the file. Perhaps I'll just create a shortcut in my menu to open a nautilus "rooted" sftp connection, nothing wrong with that I suppose
[15:25] <ikonia> Odaym: I did tell you to read this a long time ago
[15:26] <ikonia> matt____: can you not edit it on the server, ssh in ?
[15:26] <Odaym> hmm, not quite
[15:27] <matt____> ikonia: And then use nano, etc? I can do that, but I'm also dropping a lot of images for themes, formatting, etc.
[15:27] <Odaym> true ikonia
[15:27] <r0ute> matt____, sounds like you want to mount the remote directory using sshfs
[15:27] <Odaym> i will from now on
[15:27] <ikonia> matt____: a simple way of doing this is create a local copy on your workstation, edit there, and then rsync over ssh up to your server
[15:28] <ikonia> matt____: it makes editing easier as it's local, and then upload easy as you just "sync"
[15:28] <suprengr> hi folks.  Just downloaded Banshee [from 10.04 standard repo] to see what all the fuss is about... first impression... hmm, not that different from Rhythmbox...
[15:28] <matt____> ikonia: That's something interesting, it'd also make sure I'd have a backup at all times.
[15:28] <ikonia> matt____: even better
[15:28] <suprengr> ... but then I thought: "wot, no  'visualisations', & went back to RB?" Am I missing a trick here or is there a use other people are finding which I am not?
[15:28] <bagustrix> halo...?
[15:28] <ikonia> matt____: you can even put your local copy in subversion/git/cvs for version control
[15:29] <nettezzaumana> hi thre
[15:29] <matt____> ikonia: I used rsync over ssh at one point in time, I'll read about what I want. Thanks!
[15:29] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks, my desktop disappeared a while back and I can't seem to get it to return. Can anybody help?
[15:29] <r0ute> Yerushalmi, call the police
[15:29] <ikonia> matt____: if you need help, shout, also if you can it's worth looking at local version control so you can track your changes
[15:29] <nettezzaumana> is there possibility in ubuntu installer to skip|disable|just not install molestatory grub2 terror ?
[15:30] <ikonia> r0ute: don't be useless to people
[15:30] <ikonia> nettezzaumana: there is a "do not install boot loader" option
[15:30] <ramnet> Yerushaalmi: startx should bring it back if your stuck in a console
[15:30] <Valkyrie> Anyone here using 10.10 ever get Rigs Of Rods going?
[15:30] <Yerushalmi> ramnet: Not stuck in a console - I have the upper bar and my desktop background but the ubuntu-netbook unity-style overlay is missing
[15:31] <lestat> nettezzaumana: grub2 is much less a terror than legacy grub
[15:31] <Yerushalmi> r0ute: I did, but the police force here is pretty useless, basically just said they'll make a note of it and call me if it shows up on the black market.
[15:31] <lestat> it does a much better job at detecting your config etc
[15:31] <r0ute> Yerushalmi, good stuff :)
[15:31] <nettezzaumana> lestat: depends on angle of view
[15:32] <minimec> Yerushalmi: You mean you can use your gnome as you want, but you don't see the files of the Desktop foler on your desktop?
[15:32] <nettezzaumana> lestat: but from *my *angle *of *view is molestatory rapistic terror :P
[15:32] <lestat> nettezzaumana: i have to admit i was a bit afraid too at first, because it's very different etc, but it's also really easy to use
[15:32] <Valkyrie> Has anyone using Ubuntu 10.10 ever gotten Rigs of Rods going? I'm actually tempted to install windows on a seperate partition for it. =/ An' i've ne'er done that.
[15:33] <nettezzaumana> lestat: it's due to the that ubuntu is not my primary system and i'd better add ubuntu to my bootloader then doing some chainloader in legacy or in the worst case doing adding my other systems to ubuntu grub
[15:33] <compdoc> soft-body physics
[15:33] <Diverdude> What does this command do: 33<<4 ?
[15:34] <Yerushalmi> minimec :I'm using Ubuntu Netbook Edition, so I don't have gnome. I apparently have something like Unity: horizontal bars down the left side of the screen that read "Favorites", "Files and folders", etc.
[15:35] <ramnet> Diverdude: that would execute 33 and pipe the contents of file 4 into it. better to tell us what your trying to do methinks :)
[15:35] <minimec> Yerushalmi: Oh I see. I don't use unity, so I cannot help you.
[15:36] <Yerushalmi> minimec: Or at least I used to. Now I just have my desktop background picture, which blinks completely white every so often,  but the black bar across the top of the screen with the time and everything, and the black thing that appears to tell me network and battery information, and all keyboard commands work fine.
[15:36] <qiaoww> hi
[15:36] <Yerushalmi> minimec: Thanks anyways. Anybody else?
[15:36] <Odaym> why does "fdisk -l" produce nothing?
[15:37] <minimec> Yerushalmi: no problem.
[15:37] <Odaym> i read the man page and it mentions the -l option to list the partitions
[15:37] <boota2> I've got a problem with configuring access to subversion repository via apache2. I installed apache2 modules "dav_module", "dav_svn_module", "authz_svn_module", added code snippet to apache2.conf http://pastebin.com/A0HsQX7r , added user test via sudo htpasswd -c /etc/subversion/passwd user_name, but I when i do "svn co http://192.168.7.1/svn/myproject --username test" I get "svn: Could not
[15:37] <boota2> open the requested SVN filesystem".
[15:37] <mamece2> erusul its me again, hi
[15:37] <mamece2> i have some problems, i want to switch to ubuntu 64 bit
[15:38] <compdoc> 64bit will solve teh problem?
[15:38] <Odaym> I also want that, is that feasible without losing anything?
[15:38] <suprengr> Yerushalmi: don't know the answer for sure but if that was my prob I would log off, select Gnome from from "Session" [bottom right of screen] & see if that's ok.
[15:38] <mamece2> i did a flash memory booteable with the ubuntu 64bit iso file, but when i try to boot it appears BOOT ERROR, can somebody help me?
[15:38] <matthew_t> I'm an ubuntu newbie; I'm trying to assemble two raid-0 drives (from a windows machine) on ubuntu; will mdadm --assemble work given that the raid is from windows?
[15:38] <suprengr> Yerushalmi: ... & then switch back to Ubuntu Netbook Edition"
[15:39] <ikonia> Odaym: you need to use "sudo"
[15:39] <ikonia> matthew_t: that will never work
[15:39] <Odaym> ah thank you
[15:39] <ikonia> matthew_t: windows raid and fake raid are not compatible with Linux and mdadm is only for Linux software raid
[15:39] <Yerushalmi> suprengr: Can't. I only have Ubuntu Netbook Edition, Ubuntu Netbook Edition 2D, and xterm under session. 2D actually works fine but for some reason doesn't automatically load a window manager (I have to run metacity manually upon logging in), which took me a while to figure out; xterm just blinks and brings me back to the login screen
[15:39] <Odaym> no human readable on fdisk..hmm
[15:40] <ikonia> Odaym: what command did you do ?
[15:40] <matthew_t> ikonia: Ah, thanks. So is there any way to read the data from the drives?
[15:40] <suprengr> Yerushalmi: you don't have a log-in screen on start uo?
[15:40] <hilarie> So, in my ongoing effort to confuse and grow myself, I installed ubuntu server edition on virtualbox, how do I see what the server thinks it IP is? I set it up as 'nat'
[15:40] <ikonia> matthew_t: not really no.
[15:40] <Yerushalmi> suprengr: Either way, coming back to Ubuntu Netbook Edition regular doesn't seem to have changed anything there, it still doesn''t work.
[15:40] <ikonia> matthew_t: less so as it's raid0
[15:40] <r0ute> hilarie: ifconfig?
[15:40] <Odaym> "fdisk -l" and it worked, ikonia, but i want human readable..unless the Blocks column is not referring to the size
[15:40] <Odaym> don't know what Blocks are
[15:40] <Yerushalmi> suprengr: Well, I bypass login automatically but I can always click logout to get to it, and that's what I did. I logged out and changed session to UNE 2D, which actually worked.
[15:40] <hilarie> ifconfig? ty
[15:40] <Valkyrie> Why do I get this error? virtus@Cathedral:~/builder$ tar -xvf RoR-0.30-linux.tgz
[15:40] <Valkyrie> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[15:41] <ikonia> Odaym: blocks is the size
[15:41] <matthew_t> ikonia: Thanks for the help!
[15:41] <Yerushalmi> suprengr: But like I said, no window manager so I have to leave a terminal open, and also it's a lot slower.
[15:42] <codemagician> since adding my drives to /etc/fstab they have disappeared from the Places menu in gnome?
[15:42] <jon_athon> :)
[15:42] <ikonia> codemagician: because they are mounted outside of gnome most probably
[15:43] <ikonia> codemagician: it shouldn't matter but I have seen that before for network shares
[15:43] <codemagician> ikonia, can i have both?
[15:43] <suprengr> Yerushalmi: Sorry, I though you meant you *had* the tabs down the side of screen.
[15:43] <codemagician> ikonia, i have mapped my drives to /storage/wd and /storage/blue
[15:43] <ikonia> codemagician: you should be able to,
[15:43] <Valkyrie> Why do I get this error, guys? virtus@Cathedral:~/builder$ tar -xvf RoR-0.30-linux.tgz
[15:43] <Valkyrie> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[15:43] <codemagician> ikonia, but i'd like to see their label names also in the Places menu
[15:43] <ikonia> Valkyrie: tar zxvf
[15:43] <Yerushalmi> suprengr: I don't have them anymore. I was describing what my desktop is supposed to look like :)
[15:43] <codemagician> Valkyrie, you need a z flaag
[15:43] <suprengr> Yerushalmi: :)
[15:44] <codemagician> Valkyrie, z means uncompress
[15:44] <Valkyrie> I tried it with a z flag
[15:44] <Yerushalmi> suprengr:
[15:44] <Yerushalmi> Gah
[15:44] <Valkyrie> Same error, not in gzip format
[15:44] <ikonia> Valkyrie: file RoR-0.30-linux.tgz what do you get ?
[15:44] <Valkyrie> o O HTML Document text.
[15:44] <jack_> Valkyrie: type 'file  RoR-0.30-linux.tgz'. it will tell you what kind of file it is
[15:45] <ikonia> Valkyrie: you've download the html link, not th efile
[15:45] <jack_> ikonia: beat me to it :P
[15:45] <ikonia> file
[15:45] <ikonia> Valkyrie: did you try to get it with wget ?
[15:45] <crispy_chunks> Anyway to adjust fanspeed in a nvidia GT240? The blob driver i get from ubuntu does not let me control, and nvclock does not support GT240 yet.
[15:45] <Yerushalmi> suprengr: I tried uninstalling and reinstalling all sorts of netbook-related packages, no good. I'm fairly certain this happened because of a set of updates I ran the night before it started, but I don't know how to uninstall a package and reinstall an old version or something.
[15:45] <Valkyrie> ikonia: Yea. 'twas from a script
[15:45] <codemagician> ikonia, do you know how to add those back to the Places menu?
[15:45] <ikonia> codemagician: no
[15:45] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone ever connect their cell phones to their computer to retrieve pictures?
[15:45] <ikonia> Valkyrie: download it from the web page
[15:45] <Sami345> Can somebody help me with getting internal / external mic work in Acer Aspire 7540G, I have already tried: googling, installing latest alsa-driver
[15:45] <jack_> linux_is_my_hero: i do that all the time
[15:45] <codemagician> any other takers... I want to add my drives to the Places menu in Gnome?
[15:45] <ikonia> linux_is_my_hero: it very much depends on the model/make of cell phone
[15:45] <Sami345> the problem is there is no sound at all
[15:45] <jack_> codemagician: i believe that is done through the gconf-editor too
[15:45] <jack_> l
[15:45] <Sami345> from mic
[15:45] <jack_> tool
[15:46] <linux_is_my_hero> iknoia: lg cosmos
[15:46] <codemagician> jack_, got any idea which main section its in?
[15:46] <linux_is_my_hero> ikonia: lg cosmos
[15:47] <jack_> codemagician: no idea : )
[15:47] <teb_> Sorry for alittle of topic, I know there has been a much talk about official steam client on linux. and Steam has not confirmed that (as far as I know) but will there be a client for linux in the near future?
[15:48] <ikonia> teb_: you know it's offtopic, so please don't ask
[15:48] <jack_> teb_: i hear that there WILL be. but thats just a rumor :)
[15:48] <ikonia> teb_: try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux for generic linux chat
[15:50] <mr_B> #alkmaar
[15:50] <yoshi_> hi leute... jemand hier, der mir helfen kann beim xubuntu problem?
[15:51] <yoshi_> habe die herzzahl vom bildschirm auf 75 geändert... jetzt habe ich keinen mauszeiger mehr =/
[15:51] <IdleOne> !german
[15:52] <Yerushalmi> According to my dpkg.log, the following packages got updated the night before my desktop broke: login, libssl0.9.8, passwd, libk5crypto3, libgssapi-krb5-2, libkrb5-3, libkrb5support0, libvlccore2, vlc-data, libvlc2, openssl, telepathy-gabble, vlc-plugin-pulse, vlc, vlc-nox. Anybody know which of these if any are likely to be the one that broke my desktop?
[15:52] <jack_> Yerushalmi: how did it broke/
[15:52] <jack_> ?
[15:52] <cjo232> hi
[15:52] <jack_> cjo232: hi
[15:52] <jack_> Yerushalmi: those appear to be for video playing, logging in... and thats about it
[15:53] <cjo232> :)
[15:53] <cjo232> should there be a /folder subdir in the .local/share/trash dir?
[15:53] <jack_> cjo232: :D
[15:53] <Yerushalmi> jack_: I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background, which blinks grey occasionally.
[15:53] <jack_> cjo232: i have 3 folders under that directory.
[15:54] <jack_> Yerushalmi: does that happen for all users?
[15:54] <Yerushalmi> jack_: Yup
[15:54] <cjo232> jack_:  i have no folders under /trash
[15:54] <jack_> cjo232: well, since its Trash i wouldn't worry about it
[15:55] <eXpLoD> where is my .vimrc file?i don't find it in ~ ,i have only .viminfo
[15:55] <jack_> Yerushalmi: maybe you have a corrupted lib or something strange like that. im not sure how to check that but i think you can with dkpg
[15:55] <jack_> eXpLoD: try `sudo updatedb` `locate .vimrc`
[15:55] <eXpLoD> nothing outputs
[15:55] <Yerushalmi> jack_: So it might have nothing to do with the upgrade the night before? How would I scan for corrupted libs?
[15:56] <Yerushalmi> Is there a "reinstall everything" command? :)
[15:56] <jrib> eXpLoD: create it
[15:56] <yvind> Hi all :D
[15:56] <yvind> I like Ubuntu very much.
[15:56] <jack_> eXpLoD: then it sounds like you dont have one. :P
[15:56] <pionar> Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone.
[15:56] <cjo232> jack_: There isn't a /folder subdir under /trash that the track can panel is located in?. IE the trash location is in '/trash'?
[15:56] <jack_> yvind: its so-so. :P
[15:56] <cjo232> *trash panel
[15:56] <yvind> Easy to install games :D
[15:56] <eXpLoD> can i use vim if i dont have .vimrc?
[15:56] <ramnet> eXpLoD: ls -lR / | grep .vimrc     or just make a new one
[15:56] <jack_> eXpLoD: type 'vim' and see what happens
[15:56] <mamece2> help! i have a flash memory and when i try to boot ubuntu 64 it says BOOT error, i used the flash drive to boot in my laptop and it worked
[15:56] <eXpLoD> i use vim all the time,lol
[15:57] <pionar> I'm moving to a new computer.  Can I just copy my ssh and pgp keys over, or do I need to "export" something?
[15:57] <jack_> cjo232: trash panel?
[15:57] <jrib> eXpLoD: you just create ~/.vimrc if you want to put something there and don't already have one
[15:57] <cjo232> the bottom right corner pannel with the trah bin icon.
[15:57] <jack_> mamece2: flash memory? like a flash card plugged into the machine?
[15:57] <bilig> hello, is there a program or a way to control (over remote client) a camera that is connected to lets call it a server?
[15:57] <mamece2> jack_ a usb flash memopry
[15:58] <jack_> mamece2: you're trying to boot from it?
[15:58] <jack_> mamece2: does it work in any other machines?
[15:58] <cjo232> Because when I click on it, it is always empty yet when I delete files , I don't think they are being straight through deleted .
[15:58] <yvind> I noticed that technology in Linux is faster and higher than Microsoft Windows.
[15:58] <Simisu> Hello everyone, i just finished installing ubuntu on an EXTERNAL HDD using my other laptop, i would like to run the ubuntu OS on this laptop (an old acer travelmate, which fits the qualifications as far as i could see) but from the bios all i have is "external devices" and that jumps right back to windows (i put the harddrive last on the list...) how can i create a bootloader that would work
[15:58] <Simisu> also on THIS computer? thanks in advance for any help (complete linux noob!)
[15:58] <eXpLoD> nevermind i got it....it's in usr/share/vim..and its not hidden
[15:58] <jack_> Simisu: you may be able to install grub to your internal hd mbr and have it point to your windows/ubuntu installs
[15:59] <erUSUL> !info zoneminder | bilig
[15:59] <minimec> Simisu: Could be, that your BIOS doesn't allow to boot from external sources.
[16:00] <NooBoontoo> Anywho.... What does " NooBoonToo sets +i on NooBoonToo" means?
[16:00] <bilig> ubottu, ok thank you very much!
[16:00] <Simisu> minimec: if it has external devices listed why not?
[16:01] <IdleOne> NooBoontoo: means you have set yourself to invisible. This prevents you from appearing in global WHO/WHOIS by normal users, and hides which channels you are on. It is strongly recommended that you set this user mode, and it is now enabled by default. see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[16:01] <mamece2> jack_ yes it worked on my laptop , but not in my desktop
[16:01] <jack_> Simisu: thats a BIOS question. has htis ever worked?
[16:01] <eXpLoD> this confuses me;i have 2 vim directories,one in /etc/ and one in /usr/share,and both have vimrc's ,but which one does my bash use?
[16:01] <Simisu> jack_: how big is this grub what is mbr and where do i find it? thanks
[16:01] <pionar> I'm moving to a new computer.  Can I just copy my ssh and pgp keys over, or do I need to "export" something?
[16:01] <minimec> Simisu: Well, then yes... Check your BIOS. There my be an option to activate some Boot options.
[16:01] <jack_> mamece2: sounds like your machine cant read from the usb
[16:01] <erUSUL> eXpLoD: bash uses nither. vim maybe uses both
[16:01] <cjo232> jack_:  what happens is if I delete something, it doesn't show up in the trashcan.  I tried deleting the trash can icon on the desktop panel and adding the trashcan again and it did the same thing...
[16:01] <NooBoontoo> IdleOne, I dont remember setting that option, perhaps the administrator wants to kick me out of here?
[16:01] <jack_> pionar: why do you want to do that? cant you just create new ones?
[16:02] <mamece2> jack_ i tryed in several slots
[16:02] <frank083> hello. I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and its great. First time with linux. I'm having troubles with the mouse, it moves choppy, jumping, with low fps. The rest works fine, videos, etc. What can I do??
[16:02] <NooBoontoo> -i
[16:02] <NooBoontoo> Nooboontoo -i
[16:02] <IdleOne> NooBoontoo: freenode network sets it automatically on all users on the network
[16:02] <jack_> cjo232: so when you delete stuff it doesn't get moved to TrasH?
[16:02] <Simisu> jack_: untill now i've tried multiple times to install ubuntu on this computer but it always crashed... so i used the other one, so nope... i never tried it before
[16:02] <cjo232> no
[16:02] <IdleOne> NooBoontoo: if you want to remove it type: /mode -i NooBoontoo
[16:02] <pionar> jack_ I don't want to recopy my ssh keys to the 12 hosts i regularly ssh into.
[16:02] <jack_> frank083: perhaps that is your video drivers? try using different ones
[16:03] <roxlu_> hey!
[16:03] <Simisu> minimec: you mean other opetions then the boot list?
[16:03] <NooBoontoo> Oh, It says " You are not the channel operator"
[16:03] <cjo232> jack_:  and it doesnt seem to 'permanently delete' it either because it is saying my /home folders alloted space is full 100%
[16:03] <jack_> Simisu: crashed how? have you tried using wubi (if you have a winblowz install)?
[16:03] <frank083> jack_ but videos render fine, could it be video anyway?
[16:03] <jack_> cjo232: hah nice
[16:03] <IdleOne> NooBoontoo: sorry /umode -i NooBoontoo
[16:03] <erUSUL> eXpLoD: just checked and /etc/vim/vimrc explains it in detail in the header. where does de confusin come from ?
[16:03] <NooBoontoo> Lisent up Mr. Channel operator, If dont want me here just say it!!
[16:03] <jack_> frank083: it sounds like an xserver problem to me. what video card do you have?
[16:04] <IdleOne> NooBoontoo: if you actually read what i said you would see it has nothing to do with the channel or the operators
[16:04] <minimec> Simisu: On my HP8000 I have to activate a boot menu to be able to boot from alternate sources. I then get a basic boot menu from where I can choose my boot source.
[16:04] <roxlu_> When I try to login using ssh I get the mesage: "This account is currently not available."  Does someone knows why?
[16:04] <frank083> jack_: geforce fx 5500
[16:04] <Simisu> Jack_: just stopped, the capslock light was blinking and nothing was happaning, wouldn't react... so on so forth... each time in a different stage, sometimes crashed differently...
[16:04] <eXpLoD> it confuses me because they are both the same...
[16:04] <jack_> pionar: i think you CAN copy the ssh keys to the new machine and have it work fine. all you do is copy them into a file to begin with right?
[16:04] <Valkyrie> error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libCg.so: invalid ELF header
[16:04] <Valkyrie> o O Why?
[16:04] <jack_> frank083: do you know what driver you're using? maybe you could try the ones from nvidia.com
[16:05] <pionar> yeah, you just copy the public key over to authorized_hosts or something like that on the remote host.
[16:05] <vallhalla> !! ati
[16:05] <erUSUL> eXpLoD: the one in /etc/ averrides the one in usr and is the one you should edit
[16:05] <cjo232> jack_:  do you know why it seem to not be deleting the ifles permanently nor temporarily in the trash can?
[16:05] <jack_> pionar: then yes it should work fine.
[16:05] <Simisu> minimec: like i said, i put my native HDD last on the list, it should have tried all the options before and it still went to the damn windows
[16:05] <cjo232> *files
[16:05] <jrib> eXpLoD: use ~/.vimrc to edit your vim settings.  Don't use the system-wide one unless you really want to edit the system wide settings and not your user's settings
[16:05] <frank083> jack_ the Nvidia downloaded automatically, and worked fine for a few days. This happened today
[16:05] <jack_> cjo232: if your disk is still full, they're not being deleted. they're being moved somewhere. perhaps you're looking int he wrong place
[16:05] <pionar> jack_, thanks.
[16:05] <jack_> frank083: iunno what to tell you brother. check your logs to see if anything is out of the ordinary
[16:05] <Simisu> minimec: like i said, i put HDD last on the list, it should have tried all the options before and it still went to the damn windows
[16:05] <Simisu> oops
[16:05] <minimec> Simisu: On what list?
[16:06] <cjo232> jack_:  ok
[16:06] <Simisu> on the boot list of course
[16:06] <jack_> cjo232: do you have a big file you can delete, or have deleted?
[16:06] <minimec> Simisu: On what boot list? Grub?
[16:06] <jack_> you can use baobab to see where the space is being allocated
[16:06] <jack_> cjo232: ^
[16:06] <Simisu> my computers boot list?
[16:07] <Simisu> the bios boot list!
[16:07] <jack_> Simisu: do you get grub at all?
[16:07] <mamece2> jack_ if i have the iso image what can i use to make a usb flash booteable? im using unebootin
[16:07] <cjo232> uhmm they were moved to /home/.trash/ ^^ when I deleted the trash icon and added it
[16:07] <cjo232> jack_: ^
[16:07] <jack_> mamece2: i think unetbootin does it for you
[16:07] <Simisu> what is this grub?
[16:07] <Simisu> i don't knopw
[16:07] <jack_> Simisu: its the boot loader then lets you choose between windows or linux
[16:07] <mamece2> jack_ how can i know what is failin, something more than BOOT ERROR
[16:07] <minimec> Simisu: I am sorry. I don't understand you. In my eyes you should check your BIOS for such a feature.
[16:08] <jack_> Simisu: if you dont see that, it means either (1) the bootloader was installed to the wrong mbr, or (2) you are booting to the wrong disk
[16:08] <Simisu> nope i don't get that, neither on the computer i installed ubuntu with (i think... i should check again but bueno) on this one i don't get it for sure, it just jumps into windows :O(
[16:08] <jack_> mamece2: all it says its boot error?
[16:08] <Odaym> any idea which program causes a ~ directory to be created in my /
[16:08] <Odaym> ?
[16:08] <Simisu> what is an MBR?
[16:08] <Simisu> mbr!
[16:08] <jack_> Master Boot Record
[16:09] <jack_> Odaym: mkdir?
[16:09] <jrib> Odaym: well... who's the owner?
[16:09] <mamece2> jack_ yes black screen white letter, BOOT ERROR
[16:09] <NooBoontoo> I grant full chmod 7777 in my PC for anyone wiling to help me fix this GENIUS 450 tablet
[16:09] <Odaym> root is
[16:09] <jack_> mamece2: that sounds like a BIOS error to me. is this right after your bIOS splash screen?
[16:09] <Odaym> and the directory has nothing inside
[16:09] <Simisu> oh... well it won't be here on this computer because i didn't use this one to install ubuntu (i installed it on an external HDD)
[16:09] <Simisu> using another computer
[16:09] <Valkyrie> YO. =/ WHAT THE FU-
[16:09] <jrib> Odaym: does it come back if you delete it?
[16:09] <IdleOne> !language | Valkyrie
[16:09] <Valkyrie> =/ Alright. I got Rigs Of Rods to start. But, it crashed.
[16:10] <Valkyrie> Hey! I stopped myself.
[16:10] <Simisu> so i do i get THIS computer to recognize it can start ubuntu and not windows?
[16:10] <jack_> Simisu: try re-instaling grub onto it
[16:10] <mamece2> jack_ yes, i just updated my BIOS and its the same error as before , boot error
[16:10] <Odaym> i cannot type "rm -r ~" because ~ is '/home/me'
[16:10] <NooBoontoo> VIA X11
[16:10] <Odaym> i will do it through gui, one second
[16:10] <ramnet> enclose in single quotes to stop variable expansion
[16:10] <jack_> mamece2: it means your bios cannot boot from that media. its either a bios issue or hte drive is bad. since you said you can use it on the othe rmachines, im thinking its a bios issue.
[16:10] <ramnet> rm '~'
[16:10] <Odaym> ok ramnet
[16:10] <minimec> jack_: That laptop you want to use only has a windows install on it, right?
[16:10] <Simisu> Jack_ onto what? the computer or the harddrive? and how do i do that anyway?
[16:10] <Valkyrie> OGRE EXCEPTION(7:InternalErrorException): Buffer data corrupted, please reload in GLHardwareVertexBuffer::unlock at OgreGLHardwareVertexBuffer.cpp (line 165)
[16:10] <Valkyrie> Ri' up in there.
[16:10] <minimec> jack_: sorry ;)
[16:10] <jack_> Odaym: rm -rf /\~
[16:10] <cjo232> jack_:  it was put in the home dir but I just gott figure out hwy it wont let me delete em in nautilus root :)
[16:11] <jrib> jack_, Odaym: use rmdir with -i...
[16:11] <zebra_> be
[16:11] <minimec> Simisu: That laptop you want to use only has a windows install on it, right?
[16:11] <Zeu5> hi all, i am having problems installing veetle. i keep getting operation not permitted error messages. http://askubuntu.com/questions/27273/install-veetle-keep-seeing-tar-mozilla-plugins-cannot-utime-operation-not-p
[16:11] <gsb> Odaym: rmdir /~
[16:11] <Odaym> i will try gksudo nautilus first
[16:11] <jrib> jack_, Odaym: erm.  What I meant was.  Use rmdir.  If you're going to use rm, then use it with -i
[16:11] <Simisu> minimec yes only windows (and hardly any space left)
[16:11] <Odaym> it's gone
[16:11] <Odaym> through Move to Trash
[16:12] <gsb> Odaym: thats right, this way if you try delete wrong dir (read non-empty), rmdir will complain
[16:12] <Simisu> !grub
[16:13] <Eighteens> yesterday i was complaining that my 10.04 installation had slow internet and the solution i found was rather unusual, can someone help me figure this out. The problem was that whenever i launched any browser it would take for ever to load any website, sites were timing out before making connection, and speedtest.net (When i finally got it to load) reported .5mbps to 1.5mbps down, and like 3mbps up, however on this same machine in an
[16:13] <Eighteens> so what i found out was that if i click the mouse on the dialog border where the title of the browser is, and shake it vigorously, then the sites wouldnt time out
[16:13] <minimec> Simisu: So you need to tell your BIOS that there are also alternate disks to boot from. On my laptop this is an option in the BIOS (I told you). DOn't mess around with 'mbr'. Again I think you should check your BIOS for 'alternate boot options'
[16:13] <jrib> Eighteens: coincidence
[16:13] <Simisu> minimec and that would appear somewhere alse then the BOOT list?
[16:13] <Eighteens> i'm not making this up, i have to actually shake the screen of all the apps to get them to respond to commands
[16:13] <rafael> propobly is a frimware
[16:13] <rafael> *firmware
[16:14] <ruan> im having a minor problem with minecraft, when i click then the mouse appears for a split second
[16:14] <minimec> Simisu: Again I don't know what you mean with BOOt list.
[16:14] <vocx> Eighteens, incredible story, literally.
[16:14] <minimec> Simisu: maybe we talk about the same thing...
[16:14] <Gnea> Eighteens: did you build the computer yourself?
[16:15] <erUSUL> Eighteens: maybe some problems with interrupts ?
[16:15] <gsb> Eighteens: may be some bug gets stuck in software which gets un-stuck upon shaking
[16:15] <Zeu5> hi all, i am having problems installing veetle. i keep getting operation not permitted error messages. http://askubuntu.com/questions/27273/install-veetle-keep-seeing-tar-mozilla-plugins-cannot-utime-operation-not-p
[16:16] <Simisu> minimec i think we are talking about the same thing :O( and i tried that already...
[16:16] <jack_> why does sudo check name resolution? 'sudo: unable to resolve host jack-desktop'
[16:17] <srisimil> I am unable to play sound on Ubuntu. Can someone help me?
[16:17] <minimec> Simisu: I am not sure. Did you manually add the external HD as 'installed' harddrive? In my eyes this is wrong. You need the boot from USB option or so.
[16:17] <BluesKaj>  Zeu5 , what's veetle?"
[16:17] <billmania> jack_: sudo needs to determine upon which host sudo is running, in order to determine your permission.
[16:17] <gsb> jack_: i think your /etc/hosts doesn't have a loopback entry
[16:17] <jack_> bilig: gotcha
[16:17] <Zeu5> BluesKaj: www.veetle.com
[16:18] <jack_> gsb: i know what my issue is. my resolv.conf is p ointing to the wrong nameserver, however, i cannot edit it cos jack-desktop is not resolving apparently. :P
[16:18] <jack_> gsb: also, you're right. i do not have the entry in my hosts file
[16:18] <mamece2> jack_ i used unebootin to make a harddrive booteable, then i choose in the bios to boot from it , and i got the same error, boot error and then windows start
[16:18] <Eighteens> i can sit there and if i do nothing at all, it takes forever for websites to respond... but the second i get frustrated and grab that ol title bar and give him a shake, the darn thing just comes to life
[16:19] <gsb> jack_: then boot into single user mode and edit files
[16:19] <jack_> gsb: i fixed it
[16:19] <jack_> su works fine
[16:19] <srisimil> the output of lspci | grep audio is "00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)" but aplay -l says "aplay: device_list:235: no soundcards found..."
[16:19] <minimec> Zeu5: You need to set the 'execution bit' for the installer file. In the filemanager --> properties of the file.
[16:19] <Zeu5> minimec: already did
[16:20] <gsb> jack_: means you have your root account enabled
[16:20] <jack_> Eighteens: are you sure you're using a PC and not an etch-a-sketch?
[16:20] <Zpix> HELLO ALL
[16:20] <jack_> gsb: yes. i do
[16:20] <Kranix> How to install sun java in 10.10?
[16:20] <erUSUL> !java | Kranix
[16:20] <minimec> Are you on a console? Then ./veetle-'yourversion'
[16:21] <Eighteens> so basicly i have to shake all the title bars in all the apps that use the internet if i want them to respond quickly, and i've used 10.04 before and never noticed this bug
[16:21] <jack_> Eighteens: that sounds very odd.
[16:21] <Kranix> I tried that, but I can't find it in the repos and I have the partner repos enabled.
[16:21] <Zpix> I'm Iranian and I have to use proxy setting when I'm using facebook my os is ubuntu and antifilter in Your freedom, please tell me can anyone know where I am? and which ISP i'm using?
[16:21] <gaelfx>  /who zpix
[16:22] <gaelfx> haha
[16:22] <gsb> Eighteens: as a test, send a signal to apps using kill/killall and see if it works too
[16:22] <Kranix> Zpix, are you using google translate to type that?
[16:22] <Zpix> Kranix: to type what?
[16:22] <khrm> Zpix: Your location is being shown as Germany
 I'm Iranian and I have to use proxy setting when I'm using facebook my os is ubuntu and antifilter in Your freedom, please tell me can anyone know where I am? and which ISP i'm using?
[16:22] <Kranix> That
[16:22] <Simisu> i installed the lates ubuntu 10.10 am i running grub or grub2?
[16:23] <Eighteens> jack_ thats funny, and no i'm not making this up
[16:23] <erUSUL> Simisu: grub2
[16:23] <Simisu> thanks
[16:23] <kylek14>  hey  everyone, I have a sort  of noobish question
[16:23] <Zpix> Kranix: no I dont use google translate
[16:23] <minimec> Zeu5: sudo -i , then ./veetle-'yourversion'
[16:23] <jack_> Eighteens: could it be that your desktop is not refreshign until you move your mouse so it appears to hang?
[16:23] <Kranix> Okay, the grammar, made me think so
[16:23] <LjL> Zpix: your IP is 109.162.212.242, but i don't know what country that corresponds to. if you google it, it seems to be related to the arabic world
[16:23] <jack_> kylek14: sounds exciting. i cant wait for hte question!
[16:23] <Eighteens> oh yes
[16:23] <srisimil> somebody please help....no sound on Ubuntu 10.10
[16:24] <Eighteens> i think that is the issue
[16:24] <erUSUL> my crappy script tells me is a china ip
[16:24] <jack_> Eighteens: what kind of video drivers are you using?
[16:24] <Zpix> LjL: I mean can some one find where I am ?
[16:24] <gaelfx> chinese ip would be me
[16:24] <LjL> Zpix: i can't, but yes, probably
[16:24] <wtbtr> is it possible to set the size of the filesystems memory cache?
[16:25] <Zeu5> minimec: You are running this script as root. Veetle recommends against installing
[16:25] <Zeu5> on the superuser account. We suggest you press <Control-C> now and reinstall
[16:25] <Zeu5> on the user account you typically use to run Firefox or Mozilla.
[16:25] <Zeu5> Press <ENTER> to continue installing anyway as root.
[16:25] <FloodBot2> Zeu5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <khrm> Zpix: Is your ISP DATAK Internet Engineering, Inc
[16:25] <erUSUL> wtbtr: no; filechahe is managed by the kernel
[16:25] <minimec> Zeu5: So don't install as root ;)
[16:25] <Zeu5> minimec: u told me to use sudo -i
[16:25] <erUSUL> wtbtr: you can tweak the algos it uses swapines and other knobs in /proc/sys/vm/
[16:26] <vooze> Hey.. i was wondering.. is there no way to use use "left over keys" such as the windows key etc. on the keyboard ??.. there is 2-3 keys i cant bind to anything..
[16:26] <wtbtr> erUSUL, I am considering buying a small laptop with 8GB memory, and I want to know if that can be used to make the system snappy?
[16:26] <ruan> windows key does do things
[16:26] <MysterX> my Xwindows (gnome) gdm doesn't start any more where can i find the error log to find what's his problem?
[16:26] <erUSUL> wtbtr: the more ram the better
[16:26] <ruan> eg. windows key + m inverts colours
[16:26] <minimec> Zeu5: I installed it once on my laptop. Don't remeber if I had to be root.
[16:26] <wtbtr> erUSUL, I'm considering not using any swap. I want to store frequently used disk pages in memory for fast access.
[16:27] <Zeu5> minimec: okie. so what now?
[16:27] <erUSUL> wtbtr: that's done by the kernel automatically
[16:27] <vooze> ruan oh, is that what they call "super" ?
[16:27] <Kranix> Yep.
[16:27] <researcher1> how can I change the boot order in a dual boot (XP & Ubuntu)
[16:28] <Eighteens> jack i have to look, it's a radeon video driver
[16:28] <gaelfx> researcher1: in the grub menu, change the default
[16:28]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[16:28] <wtbtr> erUSUL, my desktop seems not to fully utillize its 4GB.
[16:28] <researcher1> gaelfx: how do I edit that?
[16:28] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[16:28] <minimec> Zeu5: I guess you did not set the execution bit correctly. I still have the file on that machine and ./veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh launchaes the installer
[16:28] <IdleOne> !away > 13WAA6LW9
[16:28] <tonsofpcs> so how do I hide the ribbon in Maverick netbook?
[16:28] <tonsofpcs> "launcher"
[16:28] <Zeu5> minimec: i think u are mistaken
[16:28] <Simisu> ah, i think i get it... so the grub2 goes on the computer harddrive to control first the boot menu, which means that grub is not where my ubuntu IS (on another HDD) so i have to install grub2 separately on this computer also in order to access my ubuntu os on the external HDD right? how do i install grub2 on this computer?
[16:29] <gaelfx> researcher1: should be somewhere in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:29] <Zeu5> minimec: the instaler does work. its the installation that did not work
[16:29] <kylek14> @ Jack_:  I burned a live CD and was wondering if I could save  add–ons/files to an external hard drive. Basically  run  maverick  from the live CD and save everything else on  the external hard drive.  Is it possible?
[16:29] <erUSUL> wtbtr: mine does have only 70 MB free and 1.5 GiB cached ( i have 3 GiB )
[16:29] <jack_> Simath: the BIOS looks at the boot drives MBR to see how to boot hte OS.
[16:29] <minimec> Zeu5: Definitly not. Why today all the people think I am wrong. Fact is I got a working veetle and you don't... ;)
[16:29] <Kranix> !ot |wildc4rd
[16:29] <wtbtr> erUSUL, no wait, apparently it uses 0.5GB for buffer/cache.
[16:29] <erUSUL> wtbtr: check what free -m says
[16:29] <jack_> kylek14: that sounds possible.
[16:29] <erUSUL> wtbtr: -/+ buffers/cache:       1368       1647
[16:29] <wildc4rd> lol kranix
[16:29] <erUSUL> wtbtr: you are not touching many files
[16:29] <jack_> Simath: so if you installed on anothe rmachine, and it put the mbr ont he local disk, you wont be able to boot on another computer
[16:29] <Zeu5> minimec: i did not say you got it wrong in installing your veetle
[16:30] <Kranix> Well, that "evening all" was kinda OT
[16:30] <jack_> also, if you point to the drive it wont have a bootloader and will probably defualt to local disk
[16:30] <wtbtr> erUSUL, that may be true. I have a minimal install
[16:30] <Zeu5> minimec: wat i said got misinterpreted my bad
[16:30] <wtbtr> -/+ buffers/cache:        494       3532
[16:30] <erUSUL> wtbtr: well if you do not have many things to be cached then...
[16:30] <IdleOne> Kranix: We don't toss !ot to people for saying hello :)
[16:30] <Simisu> Jack_ so that's exactly my problem... will installing grub2 alone on this machine make it possible to boot from this computer?
[16:30] <Kranix> Lol
[16:31] <wtbtr> erUSUL, but I want to need 8GB :-P
[16:31] <jack_> Simisu: it should. you could also install the external drive's MBR and then point the bios to it. that shoud fix the issue
[16:31] <jack_> wtbtr: whats the total memory reported by free?
[16:31] <wtbtr> erUSUL, thought about using protectfs or something similar. Hoped there was a pure caching fs.
[16:31] <wtbtr> Mem:          4026       2087       1939          0         83       1509
[16:31] <jack_> you only have 4gb
[16:32] <gsfai> How can i kill a Zombie process?
[16:32] <Simisu> Jack_ so how do i do that (either install the mbr of my external drive or install grub2 on my machine)?>? thanks in advance
[16:32] <erUSUL> wtbtr: you can use som ram block device and use it as swap?
[16:32] <jack_> !grub2
[16:32] <Fuchs> gsfai: you can't
[16:32] <jack_> ^
[16:32] <erUSUL> gsfai: most of the time you can't
[16:32] <Fuchs> gsfai: you can send sighup to it's parent, or kill it's parent
[16:32] <mamece2> erusul can u help me install ubuntu 64 bit? i have a flash memory that keeps showing me BOOT ERROR
[16:32] <gsfai> its parent is init..
[16:32] <Fuchs> gsfai: in order to find out which process the parent is, you can use pstree
[16:32] <jack_> gsfai: reboot.
[16:32] <wtbtr> I am reporting memory from my 4GB desktop but I'm considering getting a 8GB netbook
[16:32] <gaelfx> researcher1: arounf the configuring grub 2 section
[16:33] <kylek14> @Jack_:  could I  put /usr  to  the external hard drive to be able to use any version of Ubuntu?
[16:33] <gsfai> that doesnt even make sense, why would a zombie process take 99% CPU?
[16:33] <jack_> wtbtr: ok, so on your 8gb netbook it wills how 8gb and probably use 100% of that depending on how much you use the disk
[16:33] <erUSUL> mamece2: never used usb to install... what tool did you used to build the usb key? unetbootin ?
[16:33] <Simisu> THANKS EVERYONE
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> gsfai: weird, what's its name?
[16:33] <eject_ck> hi all
[16:33] <jack_> kylek14: i dont know what that means but i dont know what kind of stuff that may break :)
[16:33] <researcher1> gaelfx: ok
[16:33] <gsfai> ActionParsnip: its ktorrent now
[16:33] <wtbtr> jack, right. I'm slowly understanding this.
[16:33] <mamece2> erusul unebootin, it worked to boot in my laptop, but doesnt work in my desktop
[16:33] <gsfai> also happened with transmission, and vuze, and every other torrent client i tried
[16:33] <jack_> wtbtr: linuxatemyram.com
[16:34] <jack_> wtbtr: http://linuxatemyram.com
[16:34] <jack_> not sure which one links
[16:34] <gsfai> they all hang, and when i try to kill them, they go zombie, on do_exit channel
[16:34] <qwerty1> hey there
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> gsfai: kill it dead, or kill the parent
[16:34] <gsfai> ActionParsnip: impossible to kill init
[16:34] <erUSUL> mamece2: bios supports booting from usb? is the order set right in the bios?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> wtbtr: 4Gb is plenty for linux. I suggest you set vm.swappiness to 0
[16:34] <gsfai> kill it dead??
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> gsfai: guess its a reboot then
[16:35] <gsfai> pff
[16:35] <jack_> ActionParsnip: why would you suggest that? Heh
[16:35] <qwerty1> can i pick someones brain for a second...should be a yes or no answer i would assume
[16:35] <mamece2> erusul yes i hit F4 and then i choose boot from kingstoon key , and then black screen and the message BOOT ERROR
[16:35] <jack_> ActionParsnip: why not just do a swapoff?
[16:35] <wtbtr> ActionParsnip, I don't use swap. I have an usb system disk.
[16:35] <gsfai> how can something get stuck like that?
[16:35] <delinquentme> anyone have an idea what channel i'd go to to discuss TCP data ??
[16:35] <gsfai> kernel bug?
[16:35] <gsfai> delinquentme: i guess ##networking
[16:35] <IdleOne> !ask | qwerty1
[16:35] <gsfai> or something
[16:35] <jack_> gsfai: i doubt it. probably memory issues.
[16:35] <eject_ck> I need to stream line1 input (which is analog signal from my radio) to icecast with darkice. Trying to figure what device should I use in darkice config. I have no /dev/dsp0 in my system. But I'm able to config sound with alsamixer and i'm able to listen mp3s with mpg123.
[16:35] <erUSUL> gsfai: failed system call; serious i/o error. also killing with -9 is a bad idea
[16:36] <MysterX> can someone help me.. my xorg.0.log tels me that hey cannot load module nvidea.. now gnome doesn't start...
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> jack_: because swapoff will remove the option of swap, if swap is needed then it will be used but only if necessary
[16:36] <eject_ck> root@eject:~# uname -a
[16:36] <eject_ck> Linux eject 2.6.35-25-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 17:40:48 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:36] <erUSUL> mamece2: really dunno what can be
[16:36] <Bodsda> Hi - I am trying to set up hamachi - It has created a ham0 interface and given me an IP, which I can ping - but when I attempt to ping someone else on my hamachi vpn via their hamachi interface IP, I get 'ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted' - anyone got any ideas what might be wrong?
[16:36] <gsfai> erUSUL: its probably an i/o error, since transmission hangs when 'allocating disk space'
[16:36] <mamece2> erusul :(!
[16:36] <gsfai> but it happens every time
[16:36] <erUSUL> MysterX: how did you installed the nv drivers?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> wtbtr: if you have no swap space then you'll be fine
[16:36] <jack_> gsfai: get a nwe harddisk :P
[16:36] <erUSUL> gsfai: check logs? is the disk daying?
[16:36] <eject_ck> Bodsda, check u r firewall rules
[16:36] <jack_> ActionParsnip: why would you suggest 0 swappiness instead of swapoff?
[16:36] <gsfai> dmesg or syslog?
[16:37] <jack_> gsfai: could it be that your disk is full?
[16:37] <Bodsda> eject_ck: I have run    sudo ufw disable
[16:37] <erUSUL> gsfai: both
[16:37] <wtbtr> awsome! linuxatemyram tells me what I want to hear :D
[16:37] <erUSUL> gsfai: dmesg first
[16:37] <qwerty1> i have ubuntu 10.10 and wifi doesnt work..after some research ive found that i need to install 10.04 and do some installing and reinstalling of some items...if i put 10.04 on the computer will it overwrite 10.10 and will i have 3 OS with windows being the 3rd?
[16:37] <MysterX> erUSUL: it works with the latest nv drivers
[16:37] <eject_ck> Bodsda: iptables -F
[16:37] <gsfai> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on -- /dev/sda6             43256112  27105708  13953116  67% /
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> jack_: if you have swap space and use swapoff, the swap will NEVR be used. If you set swappiness to 0 then when the ram is completely full, the swap will be used
[16:37] <eject_ck> Bodsda: check what do you have first
[16:37] <researcher1> to change default boor order do I have to change this line in grub file "GRUB_DEFAULT=0"?
[16:37] <jack_> ActionParsnip: i think if your ram is completely full you have other issues. haha
[16:37] <gsfai> and what am i supposed to look for? "I/O" ?
[16:38] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: what card?  what research did you find?
[16:38] <MysterX> but is changed xorg.conf  bit and i think there is a problem..
[16:38] <erUSUL> MysterX: i did not asked that; i asked how did you installed those drivers
[16:38] <eject_ck> Bodsda: iptables -L
[16:38] <qwerty1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1424280  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10283164&postcount=12
[16:38] <erUSUL> gsfai: « dmesg | grep -i ata »
[16:38] <qwerty1> its a intel 5 card?
[16:38] <eject_ck> Can someone help with audio ?
[16:38] <vega-> is it supported to upgrade a desktop release with do-release-upgrade ?
[16:38] <MysterX> erUSUL: i downloaded the drivers from the nvidia site and installed them...
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> jack_: if you are working with huge imges of 6Gb, you will need it if you only have 4Gb RAM, won't you?
[16:39] <echo_mirage> how can i hide the menu of the bash terminal by default?
[16:39] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: did you try the second lnk stuff?
[16:39] <erUSUL> MysterX: well that explains... everytime there is a kernel or xorg upgrade you have to reinstall the drivers
[16:39] <gsfai> no errors reported on either dmesg or syslog
[16:39] <ghufran> hi. i am sick of wireless not working reliably. it connects sometimes and other times it just wont. i have to restart the computer and it intermittently works. the wireless is always disabled at start up so i also have to enable it first ..
[16:39] <qwerty1> not yet..ive gotta put 10.04 on the computer it appears
[16:39] <gsfai> rebooting -- the pc is burning in flames
[16:39] <ghufran> using 9.1
[16:39] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: where does it say that?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Can someone running LXDE please right click panel -> panel settings. Advanced tab   and tell me what is written in the file manager setting please
[16:40] <qwerty1> the second link
[16:40] <MysterX> erUSUL:
[16:40] <MysterX> erUSUL: .. hmm ok.. i will try that
[16:40] <King-C> Hi everyone
[16:40] <qwerty1> says to revert to older one
[16:40] <King-C> I need some help with a flip-flop USB device
[16:40] <Bodsda> eject_ck: well, that stopped me from being able to ping anything and dropped my network :) reconnected and now I can ping things and myself, but still not another machine on the hamachi vpn
[16:40] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: the FIXED!! FIXES...etc link?
[16:41] <qwerty1> yes
[16:41] <wedwo-> researcher1, get StartUp-Manager from Synaptic and use it to reset boot order
[16:41] <qwerty1> ive never used ubuntu before...thought i would give it a shot
[16:41] <eject_ck> you are trying to ping on gateway or from internal network ?
[16:41] <exutux> ActionParsnip: i don't have advanced settings there
[16:41] <researcher1> wedwo- ok
[16:41] <Bodsda> eject_ck: internal network
[16:41] <eject_ck> check on your peer ham interface with tcpdump
[16:42] <researcher1> le tme try
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> exutux: the advanced tab, on the right?
[16:42] <eject_ck> did you set routing ?
[16:42] <eject_ck> this is my system config http://pastebin.com/LqwA8v69
[16:42] <exutux> ActionParsnip: pcmanfm %s
[16:42] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: maybe he is saying a previous maverick kernel
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> exutux: thanks dude :)
[16:42] <King-C> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with usb_modeswitch
[16:42] <exutux> ActionParsnip: np
[16:42] <eject_ck> can someone help me to figure why I have no dsp in my system
[16:42] <King-C> carl@carl-laptop:~$ usb_modeswitch -p 12d1:1408
[16:42] <King-C> No default vendor/product ID given. Aborting.
[16:42] <King-C> What am I doing wrong here?
[16:42] <qwerty1> so youre saying to try it and see if it works/
[16:42] <MysterX> erUSUL: i run the installer as we speak and tells me that there is already a driver installed... that doesn't matter?
[16:42] <Guest39862> hi friends
[16:43] <ghufran> i am looking into ndisgtk but i dont know how to find make and model of my wireless .. anyone?
[16:43] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: btw, have you tried linux-backports-modules?  I thought broadcom went open source
[16:43] <erUSUL> MysterX: tell it to procceed anyway
[16:43] <basy> I am looking for fortunes like [ubuntu-server-tips, debian-hints] contains console tips, anybody know some more ???
[16:43] <eject_ck> Bodsda: can you describe your setup ?
[16:43] <qwerty1> i have not...wouldnt know where to look
[16:43] <Guest39862> I am new to UBUNTU..can any one tell me how to make my computer secure against internet threats...
[16:43] <MysterX> erUSUL: I have my doubts... whe shall see. ;)
[16:43] <King-C> You don't have to
[16:43] <mamece2> erusul i tryed to install it from windows but it start downloading a torrent with the image, the same that i already got!
[16:43] <King-C> It's GNU/Linux dude.
[16:43] <King-C> More or less unhackable.
[16:43] <qwerty1> whats difficult is without a internet link i cant download anything
[16:44] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: what are you on now?
[16:44] <tonsofpcs> how do I kill the unity side-bar launcher?  is there a way to make it not even start?  It's really a waste of screen real-estate on my netbook.
[16:44] <qwerty1> windows 7
[16:44] <erUSUL> mamece2: i do not recommend wubi instals ...
[16:44] <King-C> Guest39862: You don't have to. It's Linux, the most secure OS going.
[16:44] <King-C> Guest39862: With a router NAT firewall enabled, you're totally secure.
[16:45] <Bodsda> eject_ck: I cant ping myself again, operation not permitted - tcpdump of that interface gives nothing because I cant ping myself - setup is two PC's on the same network, one ethernet one wifi, both ubuntu, hamachi installed and connected to a vpn created through hamachi
[16:45] <pvh_sa> hey there i got a 64 bit linux install that needs to run 32 bit binaries, but they are not even recognised as executables, what do i need to do to be able to run 32 bit binaries?
[16:45] <Cradam> hi my installer has been doing the same thing for the past 29 mins
[16:45] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: try this package: linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[16:45] <erUSUL> pvh_sa: install ia32libs and realted packages
[16:45] <erUSUL> !find ia32
[16:45] <Guest39862> ohh thanks bro.....
[16:45] <eject_ck> Bodsda: do you have admin permissions on that hosts ?
[16:45] <pvh_sa> thanks erUSUL
[16:45] <ChogyDan> !offline > qwerty1 (use ubottus advice to download it from windows 7)
[16:46] <Bodsda> eject_ck: logged in as root on both
[16:46] <Guest39862> but can i get any spyware from net??
[16:46] <MysterX> erUSUL: Gnome runs ageain... thanks for that... but i think my change in xorg.conf is gone...
[16:46] <qwerty1> i will check it ChogyDan
[16:46] <King-C> Guest39862: It's extremely unlikely.
[16:46] <IdleOne> !security > Guest39862
[16:46] <qwerty1> thanks for the info
[16:46] <erUSUL> !yay | MysterX
[16:47] <King-C> Guest39862: Windows is the target of most malware.
[16:47] <basy> I am looking for fortunes like [ubuntu-server-tips, debian-hints] contains console tips, anybody know some more ???
[16:47] <Jonii^> I need help
[16:47] <Jonii^> I forgot password to my Ubuntu
[16:47] <Cradam> hi my installer has been doing the same thing for the past 29 mins can anyone help, i am installing off of usb it is doing ubuntu CRON[20807]
[16:48] <Jonii^> Is there anything I can do?
[16:48] <billmania> Jonii^: Yes. Boot the computer in single user mode.
[16:48] <eject_ck> Jonii^: reboot
[16:48] <Guest39862> yaa i understand..but can they see my passwords by chance..if I save them on particular webpages??
[16:48] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: actually, the website fails a little, do you know the kernel version?
[16:48] <qwerty1> not sure
[16:48] <Jonii^> "Single user mode"?
[16:48] <qwerty1> this looks chinese to me
[16:48] <qwerty1> lol
[16:48]  * murphy ÿ ñíîâà òóò!.
[16:48] <ruan> Guest39862: saved passwords are encrypted
[16:48] <MysterX> erUSUL: thanks :D ... i am trying to get my HD movies run smooth... when i run them my processor is getting 100%.. so i have to make a change in xorg.conf.. option "NoFlip" "1" <-- is see this in my screen section now..
[16:48] <Jonii^> What's that, and how does it help?
[16:49] <qwerty1> im a noob noob at ubuntu
[16:49] <erUSUL> MysterX: never used that option...
[16:49] <ChogyDan> qwerty1:   :)   ok, do you know if you installed 64bit or 32 bit?
[16:49] <Cradam> i guess noone can
[16:49] <qwerty1> 32
[16:50] <qwerty1> heard it was better for some reason
[16:50] <Guacamayo> Banshee: Train by Goldfrapp on Black Cherry (4:11)
[16:50] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/?repo=Maverick&arch=i386&package=linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic&have=ubuntu-desktop
[16:50] <ruan> ubottu..has its own website?
[16:50] <Jonii^> Also, my Ubuntu installation was 32bit, though my Windows was preinstalled to 64bit. What went wrong?
[16:50] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: get the 1st, third and fourth links, you don't need the second one
[16:50] <Cradam> this channel is too busy for its own good
[16:50] <ruan> Cradam: its not always busy
[16:50] <Guest39862> ok so ..u mean if i do my online banking on UBUNTU 10.10 right out of the box,without out configuring forewall or anything??Is it safe to do that??
[16:51] <qwerty1> ok...
[16:51] <erUSUL> !ufw | Guest39862
[16:51] <King-C> Guest39862: Pretty much.
[16:51] <MysterX> erUSUL: it's just not stable.. because my mouse is freezing sometimes and my movies keep playing on 100% cpu.. thats @$%%^^
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Guest39862, you' may get spyware from sites on a windows machine that's connected to your network, which is unlikely or a windows partition on the same pc with ubuntu...99.9999% of malware is written to run on ms-windows
[16:51] <qwerty1> then i?
[16:52] <qwerty1> burn those to a disc?
[16:52] <ruan> what about XSS exploits?
[16:52] <Cradam> Guest39862: there is nothing to worry about with spyware is all you need to know
[16:52] <Cradam> you dont need to know about the science
[16:52] <qwerty1> sorry for the stupidity
[16:52] <erUSUL> ruan: that will work; browsers are all alike
[16:52] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: whatever you need to do to transfer it over to the ubuntu install
[16:53] <qwerty1> ok...let me ponder on that
[16:53] <SudoKing> i currently have 32-bit ubuntu, I want to upgrade to 64-bit, will my partitioned /home still work?
[16:53] <ruan> erUSUL: i know firefox has noscript that blocks xss
[16:53] <erUSUL> SudoKing: yes
[16:53] <Guest39862> Ohhh I got you guys...I've installed GUFW and enabled this firewall...Is this ok..
[16:53] <Cradam> yay my favourite song. english man in new york
[16:54] <Cradam> im a legal alien :D
[16:54] <ChogyDan> qwerty1: you could email the files to yourself,
[16:54] <King-C> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with usb_modeswitch
[16:54] <mamece2> erusul is there another program or way to make a usb flash memory booteable?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> !firewall | Guest39862
[16:54] <qwerty1> yeah...im just trying to figure out how im gonna get them to ubuntu
[16:55] <BluesKaj> !virus | Guest39862
[16:55] <erUSUL> mamece2: ubuntu comes with a usb memory creator
[16:55] <Jonii^> So, how can I get my Ubuntu back?
[16:55] <MysterX> grrr... has someone any idea to get 1080p movies play smooth (not a 100% cpu..)
[16:55] <erUSUL> Jonii^: why? where di it go ?
[16:55] <Jonii^> erUSUL, forgot my password
[16:55] <Guest39862> Thanks..ubottu..I.ve installed GUFW..
[16:56] <Jonii^> System has just one user, me
[16:56] <erUSUL> !lostpassword | Jonii^
[16:57] <qwerty1> ChogyDan  do you think i could drop those in my external hard drive..reboot to ubuntu and try to bring out of the external hard drive?
[16:58] <mamece2> erusul how its called?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Guest39862, I misworded my post , I didn't mean to imply that ubuntu can get malware from windows
[16:58] <wtbtr> is there good support for intel integrated graphics of i3 processors on ubuntu?
[16:58] <Cradam> is there a way to cancel my ubuntu install?
[16:59]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[16:59]  * murphy ÿ ñíîâà òóò!.
[16:59] <Guest39862> BluesKaj,no probs..I got what you mean..Thanks
[16:59] <oCean> !afk > murphy
[16:59] <mamece2> erusul whats the name of the usb memory creator that comes with ubuntu?
[16:59] <vega-> is it supported to upgrade a desktop release with do-release-upgrade ?
[16:59] <ubumanux> irc://irc.darksin.it/atl_revenge
[17:00] <erUSUL> mamece2: System>Administration>usb creator
[17:00] <Cradam> !afk
[17:00] <oCean> Cradam: you can /msg ubottu for private factoids
[17:00] <mamece2> erusul the problem is that i got windows xp in this desktop , i want my other HD to be ubuntu 64 bit
[17:01] <qwerty1> thanks ChogyDan....let me see if i can do this
[17:01] <qwerty1> thanks for your time
[17:01] <ruan> just a small note: if you emulate windows (wine, etc) you can still get malware on the emulator
[17:01] <chang-li> hi, i am able to disable automount > nautilus.
[17:01] <Jonii^> Other thing: My windows seems to be 64bit, and my Ubuntu 32bit. What went wrong?
[17:01] <King-C> But it can't hijack stuff from inside Linux
[17:01] <King-C> Jonii^: You's installed the wrong version pal
[17:01] <King-C> Doesnt really matter unless you have more than 4GB of ram
[17:01] <chang-li> Hi, sorry, I want to disable viewing the usb detected device in nautilus.
[17:01] <Jonii^> King-C, it doesn't?
[17:01] <stevecam> is there some sort of assisted recovery utility for ubuntu?
[17:02] <MysterX> grrr... has someone any idea to get 1080p movies play smooth (not a 100% cpu..)
[17:02] <ruan> yeah
[17:02] <Cradam> MysterX: a better processor
[17:02] <stevecam> ruan, was that directed towards me?
[17:02] <ruan> stevecam: theres rescue mode and livecd, but rescue is a terminal
[17:02] <MysterX> Cradam: haha youre funny
[17:02] <ruan> afaik
[17:02] <King-C> MysterX: Install your proprietary graphics card
[17:03] <Cradam> no im not my dad has no problems with his quad core
[17:03] <King-C> MysterX: Disable desktop effects.
[17:03] <MysterX> King-C: what do you mean by proprietary graphic card?
[17:03] <stevecam> ruan, is it on the CLI cd only?
[17:03] <King-C> MysterX: Driver. System-administration-hardware drivers
[17:04] <Cradam> he means install your graphics card driver MysterX
[17:04] <King-C> Do you have a graphics card?
[17:04] <ruan> stevecam: livecd has a GUI
[17:04] <lahwran> MysterX: he means like the opposite of my graphics card, my graphics card is from the nvidia open source line
[17:04] <MysterX> King-C: ah i see yes i've got one Geforche8500 and installed my drivers from the nvidea site
[17:04] <ruan> stevecam: and rescue mode is bootable from grub
[17:04] <lahwran> network-manager's applet has been goofing up on me, when I hover it doesn't tell me current status and when I click on the menu nothing appears to have any effect
[17:05] <King-C> MysterX: Ok. Rightclick your desktop, change destop background, visual effects, none
[17:05] <King-C> Then try playing your video
[17:05] <lahwran> for instance, I can't change networks by clicking on the menu item - anyone had this happen or have suggestions for troubleshooting?
[17:05] <Cradam> is there a way to cancel the install?
[17:05] <ruan> Cradam: which install?
[17:05] <Cradam> ubuntu
[17:05] <stevecam> ruan, there is a recovery mode on the hard drive, but that doesnt work either
[17:05] <Cradam> 1010
[17:05] <rtdos> i lost my network device (eth0) how do i reinstall or reconfigure the drivers?
[17:06] <rtdos> yes, i ran ifconfig eth0 and it says device does not exist.
[17:06] <drc> chang-li: open nautilus  Edit>Preferences>Media  check Never Prompt
[17:06] <erUSUL> rtdos: what nic do you have?
[17:06] <stevecam> i have the install cd and there is no boot menu coming up for a grub, grub doesnt work on cd's
[17:06] <MysterX> King-C: done what you told but still 100%
[17:06] <rtdos> not sure.
[17:06] <erUSUL> rtdos: lspci | grep -i net
[17:06] <rtdos> ok hold on erusul
[17:06] <Cradam> MysterX: what are your system specs?
[17:07] <Arachon> Hey folks, I'm noticing that my network speed is a *lot* slower when I'm on my laptop's battery, than when it's charged... Any ideas why? I'm fairly certain I didn't have this problem in 10.4
[17:07] <MysterX> i've got a Asus m3n78-vm with a quad core processor..
[17:07] <King-C> MysterX: An 8500 is a pretty old, weak graphics card. It simply mightn't be able to do 1080p. It depends on the codec they're using too. If it's h264 you're probably bunched
[17:07] <chang-li> drc, thanks, but did that. devices are not automounting. problem is, they are displayed in left side of nautilus or on toolbar- though notmounted. If i click them they will mount under.media.uuid...
[17:08] <MysterX> King-C: but it works undr vista
[17:08] <annath>  Okay, I have a question... I modified my .bashrc to add colors to my command line and now every time I type a long command that has to wrap, it wraps onto the same line and starts overwriting the text already there. o-O I modified the PS1 line slightly, but just to add colors.
[17:08] <King-C> MysterX: I haven't followed this story for a while, but I seem to remember reading something once about Linux being unable to do hardware accelerated H264 playback.
[17:08] <King-C> MysterX: What player are you using?
[17:08] <rtdos> erUSUL: here is what i got: 02:00.0 attansic tech corp L2 100 MBIT ethernet (rev a0)
[17:09] <MysterX> totem or XBMC
[17:09] <ikonia> annath: unmodify it, see what happens
[17:09] <MysterX> both same problem
[17:09] <Cradam> try vlc
[17:09] <Cradam> its what my dad uses
[17:09] <King-C> True, VLC uses different decoders
[17:09] <MysterX> Cradam: nice idea... i will try that
[17:09] <rtdos> erUSUL: shouldn't i already have the drivers in my cache and just need to reinitialize them?
[17:09] <MysterX> ok ok .. i will do that hang on :D
[17:10] <stevecam> ruan, is there some sort of recovery that i can run from the cd?
[17:10] <ruan> stevecam: it depends how you're trying to recover, but yes, you can run ubuntu itself off the cd
[17:11] <erUSUL> rtdos: it loks like the driver is atl2
[17:11] <chang-li> what program is using detected drives (usb) then making available to automount under media with uuid? I want to always mount manually in a different directory with different options.
[17:11] <erUSUL> rtdos: sudo modprobe atl2
[17:11] <rtdos> ok gimme a sec erUSUL
[17:11] <erUSUL> chang-li: udisks + udev
[17:11] <annath> it definitely works with an unmodified .bashrc... could anyone pick out what I messed up in the PS1 to cause that? It's slightly confusing since I barely modified it
[17:12] <chang-li> erUSUL, should i just uninstall those programs, or edit configs.
[17:12] <ugmg> hi, any remeber the name of this package  ubuntu-extra-somthing
[17:12] <erUSUL> chang-li: really dunno; you can not get rid of udev is used for much more that just that
[17:12] <bastidraZor> ugmg: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:12] <erUSUL> ugmg: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:13] <MysterX> hmm VLC is using 95-100% where totem&XBMC are using 100+%
[17:13] <sacarlson> chang-li:  I would assume any disk with a uuid could be mounted at boot with changes in /etc/fstab
[17:13] <ugmg> thanks :)
[17:13] <erUSUL> annath: in #bash you will get more help
[17:13] <annath> ok, I'll try there
[17:13] <erUSUL> rtdos: did eth0 appeared again?
[17:13] <chang-li> sacarlson, I dont want to use fstab. want to mount a device listed via dmesg manually.
[17:14] <eross> how do i change my refresh rate from 60 to 70
[17:14] <ruan> eross: system > preferences > monitor
[17:14] <sacarlson> chang-li: you can use a script to mount it if you like
[17:14] <chang-li> I willlook into udisks.
[17:14] <ruan> monitors*
[17:14] <fedora_newb> I have ubuntu installed on an external usb drive. Usually while on justin.tv watching videos, the hard drive seems to lock up, freezing up the system. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:15] <eross> ok it gave me choice - vendor graphics which is nvidia settings panel, other was unsupporteed graphics driver
[17:15] <mycosys> is it a wd green fedora_newb?
[17:15] <MysterX> King-C: VLC is using 95% -100% cpu ...
[17:15] <chang-li> sacarlson, thanks, but no scripts are needed. must mount manually from terminal.
[17:15] <ruan> nvidia settings panel
[17:15] <King-C> MysterX: OK, how powerful is your CPU
[17:15] <fedora_newb> mycosys, I don't think so, its a cheapo brand that came with the external bay.
[17:15] <stevecam> ruan, my linux system boots into a busybox, it appears to not be able to find the appropriate mount points
[17:15] <eject_ck> what sound device should I use to stream line input ?
[17:15] <eross> right, i cant change hz there right?
[17:16] <boota2> Please point me to channel about version control systems.
[17:16] <sacarlson> chang-li: well to me using a script is the same as doing from a terminal without as much typing
[17:16] <mycosys> wd green is pretty cheap
[17:16] <boota2> Like svn or git.
[17:16] <fedora_newb> mycosys, its not
[17:16] <MysterX> King-C: where can i see that?
[17:16] <mycosys> check - if it is a wd green inside - disable intellipark
[17:16] <fedora_newb> mycosys, can i go ahead and disable it anyways to see if it helps?
[17:17] <mycosys> how is only on wd greens
[17:17] <sacarlson> chang-li: my memory isn't big enuf to remember things as good as you
[17:17] <MysterX> King-C: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-core
[17:17] <mycosys> is a nuisance on linux
[17:17] <maarten_> hihi
[17:17] <mycosys> hihi
[17:17] <fedora_newb> mycosys?
[17:17] <ruan> boota2: you can try #svn , but im not sure if its active enough
[17:17] <mc1> Morning! Anybody can help me with this: I upgraded from Jaunty to Maverick. In this process I lost proprietary display drivers and thus the ability to have 3D and desktop effects and certain windows games I play on Wine and no screen-savers either. The upgrade was through Internet download.
[17:17] <King-C> MysterX: That should be fine. Your video must be H264. That's very intense to decode
[17:18] <maarten_> morning? it's 18h00 over here
[17:18] <mycosys> fedora_newb - is only on wb greens - but most cheap externals i have seen have had wd greens in em
[17:18] <chang-li> sacarlson, true, i could write a small script using variables. however i still have to find out how to stop nautilus and mounmanager from displaying detected devices.
[17:18] <ruan> 19h18 here
[17:18] <MysterX> King-C: Too bad that linux has problem with it.. where MS Vista running smooth..
[17:19] <maarten_> i'm very new here, i'm trying to install aircrack, but after i installed it, i can't find it anywere
[17:19] <mycosys> fedora newb another thng to do is look at dmesg if it recovers afterward -
[17:19] <jeeves_moss> what is the syntax for mv to move files >1K?
[17:19] <King-C> MysterX: It's because H264 is a proprietary codec. They don't give out the necessary information to integrate those decoders into Linux drivers.
[17:19] <rtdos> erUSUL - i got a cannot find module error
[17:19] <King-C> Or the proprietary drivers don't have them
[17:19] <erkan^> hello, who have experience with lekhonee-gnome? i have problem with lekhonee-gnome , that can not install . My OS is Ubuntu 10.10
[17:19] <King-C> Because the makers are lazy
[17:19] <erUSUL> rtdos: find /lib/modules/ -name "*atl*"
[17:20] <eross> how do i increase to 75hz with nvidia card, my monitor supports it. stuck at 60hz
[17:20] <chang-li> erUSUL, thanks , really good tip. udisks seems to be the problem, and it has configurable options. :)
[17:20] <erUSUL> rtdos: is an is an l ( lucky ) not a 1 ( one ) atL2
[17:20] <MysterX> So what's youre saying is that the codec must be installed with youre graphic drivers?
[17:20] <erUSUL> chang-li: no problem.
[17:20] <Guinness2702> mysqldump -u root --all-databases says "mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect".  I have a .my.cnf with the password in.  Anybody tell me what I might be doing wrong?
[17:20] <sacarlson> chang-li: well that's why I would use /etc/fstab since auto detect may try to automount if not put there.  but with a script or cli you could umount and remount to the location you want
[17:21] <rtdos> ok brb erUSUL
[17:21] <maarten_> i'm very new here, i'm trying to install aircrack, but after i installed it, i can't find it anywere?
[17:21] <llutz> Guinness2702: mysqldump -u root --all-databases  -p
[17:21] <ruan> maarten_: how did you install it?
[17:21] <Guinness2702> llutz: -p prompts for password - I want to run unattended, hence setting up a .my.cnf
[17:21] <erUSUL> maarten_: it is a cli program no menu entry for it probably
[17:21] <maarten_> from synaptic
[17:21] <chang-li> sacarlson, i know, but target device uuid is unknown and varies.
[17:22] <sacarlson> chang-li: no uuid stays the same that's what it's for
[17:22] <mc1> Morning! Anybody can help me with this: I upgraded from Jaunty to Maverick. In this process I lost proprietary display drivers and thus the ability to have 3D and desktop effects and certain windows games I play on Wine and no screen-savers either. The upgrade was through Internet download.
[17:22] <chang-li> sardonyx, yes, but i must first disable udisks detection.
[17:22] <maarten_> ok  thanks!
[17:22] <sacarlson> chang-li: no you can just umount and remount
[17:23] <chang-li> sacarlson, thanks i will try.
[17:24] <qwerty1> ChogyDan....tried it...didnt work
[17:24] <vega-> mc1: reinstall them?
[17:24] <mc1> vega: sorry, reinstall what?
[17:25] <vega-> mc1: the missing drivers?
[17:25] <qwerty1> not sure how to install 10.04 over 10.10
[17:25] <TriBlox6432> Hello.  Is there any advantage to 64-bit if I only have 3GB RAM?
[17:25] <ikonia> qwerty1: you can either upgrade or do a clean install
[17:25] <sacarlson> chang-li: there are always ten ways to do something even if some take longer or are slower they all may work
[17:25] <ruan> TriBlox6432: not really
[17:25] <ikonia> TriBlox6432: some positives and some negatives, do you feel you need 64bit ?
[17:25] <mc1> how?  it was a whole upgrade from Jaunty. After that, no drivers show. Have an intel graphics card.
[17:25] <qwerty1> how do i install 10.04 if 10.10 is on my computer already? i also have windows 7
[17:26] <TriBlox6432> No.  I made a 64-bit USB but it won't boot.  But my 32-bit CD is fine.  So yeah.  Just checking.
[17:26] <ikonia> qwerty1: oh I see you want 10.04
[17:26] <qwerty1> yes
[17:26] <ikonia> qwerty1: you have to do a clean install of 10.04 then
[17:26] <rtdos> erUSUL: if found the following drivers in the kernal directories: atlx atl1e atl2
[17:26] <sacarlson> qwerty1: what are you willing to loose?
[17:26] <qwerty1> i burned 10.04 onto a disc...rebooted and it gave the option of windows or ubuntu
[17:27] <qwerty1> im willing to lose 10.10
[17:27] <ikonia> qwerty1: you need to boot from the CD
[17:27] <vega-> mc1: don't know then why they disappeared, you did know that jaunty -> maverick upgrade was not supported?
[17:27] <GeekMan> question when i run sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies    which number is the minimal frequency
[17:27] <qwerty1> i did boot with the cd in but it gave no install option
[17:27] <sacarlson> qwerty1: well just have it install over that partition then
[17:27] <AdyLane> what is the command in Terminal to install KDE as a option at login, without making it Kubuntu?
[17:27] <ikonia> qwerty1: then you didn't boot from a valid ubuntu 10.04 cd
[17:28] <ikonia> qwerty1: you should get logged into an ubuntu desktop with an install icon on it
[17:28] <qwerty1> when i got to the desktop it showed the disc and it had probably 8 files in it including a install file?
[17:28] <GeekMan> when i use that command i get 1199999 599999  which is the minimal frequency
[17:29] <ikonia> qwerty1: the desktop should have an icon on it that says "install"
[17:29] <qwerty1> ok..and it shows that after i log into 10.10?
[17:29] <arthur___> when i clock on places to open my home folder or any other of the folders a window pops up gnome cd master giving me choices like to burn a cd??? instead of the folder it self?
[17:29] <ikonia> qwerty1: no
[17:29] <multiplatinum> sometimes my system freezes, help?
[17:29] <ikonia> qwerty1: it shows that when you boot from the CD
[17:29] <simisu> hello everyone, so i finished installing ubuntu on my external HDD and now i want to use that drive on another computer, but for some reason the computer just logs on to windows... now i´ve reinitiated the computer and i have the livecd booted into and i can see that the external HDD dose contain the grub folder... why is it not booting grub then? or how can i install grub on my computer? thanks in advance
[17:30] <erUSUL> AdyLane: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop ?
[17:30] <qwerty1> ahh..i see...it didnt show it so not sure what the problem is
[17:30] <Ohelig> Which drive encryption program would you all recommend
[17:30] <GeekMan> simisu it needs grub on the mbr
[17:30] <delemi> I am trying to use sudo rm -r to remove a directory and I keep getting an input & output error
[17:30] <ikonia> qwerty1: if you don't get booted into an ubuntu desktop with an install icon, then you are not using a valid ubuntu 10.04 install CD
[17:31] <simisu> GeekMan and how do i get it there then?
[17:31] <ikonia> delemi: is the file on a local disk, or a USB disk ?
[17:31] <arthur___> when i click on places to open my home folder or any other of the folders a window pops up gnome cd master giving me choices like to burn a cd??? instead of the folder it self?
[17:31] <delemi> External
[17:31] <ikonia> delemi: what file system is on it ?
[17:31] <simisu> through windows or i can do it with the live cd?
[17:31] <delemi> NTFS
[17:31] <GeekMan> simisu sry your asking the worng man
[17:31] <qwerty1> i just downloaded 10.04 from the ubuntu website...maybe it didnt copy all the files
[17:31] <qwerty1> guess i need to check
[17:31] <BluesKaj> erUSUL,,it's kubuntu-desktop
[17:31] <ikonia> delemi: that maybe the problem them check the mount permissions
[17:31] <socomm> I've dual screen setup, and I want to set one of my screens to portrait mode.
[17:31] <sacarlson> simisu:  it would require something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562593/
[17:31] <socomm> Anyone have experience with this?
[17:32] <qwerty1> thanks everyone for your help
[17:32] <socomm> Multi-screen mixec portrait and landscape?
[17:32] <simisu> so can anyone help me getting my grub onto the MBR?
[17:32] <NooBoontoo> hello. I remember that Youtube videos or from anyother site, the videos stored in the tmp file, but now I can't see them there, Where else could they be?
[17:32] <ikonia> !grub > simisu
[17:32] <pupuserc1803c> hi
[17:32] <qwerty1> im gonna go try it again
[17:32] <ikonia> simisu: check out the guide ubottu has just sent you
[17:32] <digirak> hi i need some help with my c compiler
[17:32] <delemi> ikonia: thank you I will check it out
[17:32] <simisu> ah, thanks all ill be checking
[17:32] <socomm> NooBoontoo: i think that was a "bug" that was fixed recently.
[17:32] <sacarlson> simisu: well if you can't read the one liner is: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice
[17:32] <digirak> is there anyway i can see the cause of a segfault
[17:33] <digirak> using stack trace or whatever
[17:33] <socomm> NooBoontoo: check your about::cache on firefox.
[17:33] <ruan> NooBoontoo: you can also get the addon cacheviewer
[17:33] <ikonia> digirak: do you know how to read a stack trace ?
[17:33] <stevecam> how do i run e2fsck on the ubuntu install cd?
[17:33] <Arachon> Ye gods
[17:33] <GeekMan> when i use that command i get 1199999 599999  which is the minimal frequency
[17:33] <simisu> sacarlson thanks ill be checking that out!
[17:33] <erUSUL> stevecam: you can't
[17:33] <Ara|cooking> My dad just narrowly avoided a planecrash
[17:34] <ikonia> stevecam: on the install cd, or from the install CD
[17:34] <Ara|cooking> o.o
[17:34] <socomm> Ara|cooking: lucky!!!
[17:34] <ikonia> Ara|cooking: while that's great, you may want to chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[17:34] <Arachon> Ye, sorry, I realised this was the wrong channel <.<
[17:34] <stevecam> erUSUL, my ubuntu wont mount, i wanna check it for errors
[17:34] <socomm> Need help setting portrait mode on Ubuntu, anyone wanna lend hand?
[17:34] <jeeves_moss> erUSUL, you're in here to?!!!
[17:35] <hazzarux> socomm: portrait mode?
[17:35] <chang-li> erUSUL, seems udisks is not installed on karmic. must be another program similar.
[17:35] <hazzarux> socomm: do you wanna turn your monitor 90°?
[17:35] <MysterX> Where can is configurate that the diskdrives are directly mounted? and not when you've accessed one time?
[17:35] <erUSUL> stevecam: i read it wrong ... yes you can with gparted for instance.
[17:35] <socomm> hazzarux: yes sir
[17:35] <digirak> ikonia: yes ideally yes
[17:35] <socomm> hazzarux: specifically dual screen one portrait other landscape.
[17:35] <erUSUL> chang-li: in previous versions is devicekit-disk or similar
[17:36] <erUSUL> !fstab | MysterX
[17:36] <ikonia> digirak: you should get a file in the current working directory for most segfaults
[17:36] <hazzarux> socomm: there is a rotation option in the 'monitors' setting
[17:36] <ikonia> digirak: what application is sefaulting
[17:36] <MysterX> Thanks erUSUL
[17:36] <arthur___> when i click on places to open my home folder or any other of the folders a window pops up gnome cd master giving me choices like to burn a cd??? instead of the folder it self?
[17:36] <digirak> ikonia: codelite
[17:36] <erUSUL> is not core dumping disabled by default?
[17:36] <digirak> ikonia: but its actually an executable
[17:37] <ikonia> digirak: not familier with that application, is it from the ubuntu repos ?
[17:37] <ikonia> erUSUL: don't know to be honest, didn't think so, but maybe, (my boxes don't segfault ;) )
[17:37] <digirak> ikonia: i am compiling code and executing c-code
[17:37] <hazzarux> socomm: you got it?
[17:37] <ikonia> digirak: that's not what I asked, is the application from the ubuntu repos
[17:37] <digirak> ikonia: no actually it inst the appln its my code
[17:37] <digirak> ikonia: yes
[17:38] <ikonia> !info codelite
[17:38] <ikonia> digirak: what version/arch of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:38] <arthur___> when i click on places to open my home folder or any other of the folders a window pops up gnome cd master giving me choices like to burn a cd??? instead of the folder it self?  wheree is the settings at to change it back to normal
[17:38] <digirak> ikonia: 10.10
[17:38] <ikonia> digirak: 32/64bit ?
[17:38] <digirak> 32 bit
[17:38] <socomm> hazzarux: thanks let me play with that
[17:38] <digirak> ikonia: i386
[17:39] <ikonia> digirak: I've not got a 32bit machine to hand, so I can't test to see if it's a generic failure, sorry
[17:39] <hazzarux> socomm: aiight.
[17:39] <ruan> whats a good download manager for ubuntu?
[17:39] <digirak> ikonia: no is there some generic way to read the stakctrace?
[17:39] <hazzarux> ruan: JDownloader is one of the best for me.
[17:39] <BluesKaj> arthur___, check you cdrom drive for a blank disk
[17:39] <hazzarux> ruan: otherwise you got FlashGot for Firefox.
[17:39] <ikonia> digirak: it should have put a dump file in the current working directory, unless as erUSUL suggested it's disabled
[17:40] <digirak> ikonia: oh ok.. will check that out
[17:40] <digirak> ikonia: thanks
[17:40] <GeekMan> how does one submit a bug report to ubuntu i fixed my ibookg4 fan so it runs credit not to be mine
[17:40] <ikonia> !bug | GeekMan
[17:40] <juniour> digirak you wann to execute c-program
[17:40] <derpyderp> hey guys. I have a really serious problem with procrastination. I was wondering if there was a way i could edit my hosts file, but lock it, or have it so that to reedit it i need to boot from a ubuntu cd or something, because i dont know the password to unlock it.. thanks
[17:40] <digirak> juniour: yes
[17:40] <chang-li> erUSUL, no devicekit, but found discover & discover-config...might be that..
[17:40] <GeekMan> thankyou ubottu who i know is not intelligent
[17:41] <ikonia> derpyderp: it's owned by root, so only people in the admin group can use sudo to edit it
[17:41] <ikonia> derpyderp: that's pretty secure
[17:41] <juniour> digirak try this sudo aptitude install build-essential
[17:41] <derpyderp> ikonia:  i am my own admin.. :(
[17:41] <NooBoontoo> socom: Is it in /usr/share?
[17:41] <sacarlson> GeekMan: cool hope you find a path to where it can be used
[17:41] <digirak> juniour: yes done
[17:41] <ikonia> derpyderp: so what's the problem ?
[17:41] <NooBoontoo> socomm,  I cant finfd that, About/cache folder
[17:41] <dnkbd> Looking for some one to help with wifi
[17:41] <MysterX> may i ask what procrastination means?
[17:41] <derpyderp> ikonia:  i need to lock it so that only some temp user or soemthing which i create a random pass on the fly which i wont remember, can edit it
[17:41] <erUSUL> chang-li: DeviceKit-disks <<< mind the case
[17:41] <hazzarux> derpyderp: you've forgotten your root password, I suppose?
[17:42] <hazzarux> ikonia: (see above)
[17:42] <ikonia> derpyderp: why do you want to do that ?
[17:42] <derpyderp> ikonia:  i want it so that the only way i can edit it is by rebooting and booting into a live cd and editing the file
[17:42] <juniour>  digirak give me output of this "uname -a"
[17:42] <hazzarux> derpyderp: only solution is to reinstall in that case. sorry.
[17:42] <ikonia> derpyderp: why do you want that ?
[17:42] <ikonia> hazzarux: no it's not
[17:42] <derpyderp> ikonia:  to make it less likely for me to proraastinate on reddit and stuff
[17:42] <erUSUL> chang-li: http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/DeviceKit-disks/
[17:42] <arthur___> arthur___, check you cdrom drive for a blank disk, there is no cd in the drive
[17:42] <ikonia> derpyderp: if you change the ownership from root, that is not a good idea
[17:43] <ikonia> derpyderp: you just need to learn self control to stop editing it
[17:43] <arthur___> BluesKaj>	[#ubuntu] arthur___, check you cdrom drive for a blank disk, there is no cd in the drive
[17:43] <juniour>  digirak hi
[17:43] <derpyderp> ikonia:  i know man, i know, but this would help solve this very real problem for me
[17:43] <chriss_> hey guys got a ? I have ubuntu installed on my computer as a dual boot but my windows files show up under host is this correct
[17:43] <ikonia> derpyderp: it would create more problems that it will solve
[17:43] <derpyderp> ikonia:  even though i could alwasy reedit the file by rebooting, the fact that i have to reboot gets me thinking, and will make me sooo much less likely to do it
[17:44] <ikonia> derpyderp: take yourself out of the admin group
[17:44] <derpyderp> ikonia:  mmm, and then how do admin stuff?
[17:44] <DaGeek247> chriss_ what are you wanting to do exactly?
[17:44] <ikonia> derpyderp: you need to reboot and enter single user mode
[17:44] <juniour>  digirak are you there?
[17:44] <dnkbd> Need help with realtek 8192 card lshw shows it is there just disabled
[17:45] <chriss_> DaGeek I want to use more of my hdd on ubuntu but it says I only hae 28mb left
[17:45] <dnkbd> using the physical switch doesn't change it nor using the function key
[17:45] <stevecam> erUSUL, gparted wont check the disc either
[17:45] <erUSUL> stevecam: what does it say ?
[17:45] <eXpLoD> im having problems with the gnome commander i did type in configure but when i do make it says 'make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.'
[17:45] <ardian> Hi I am having some problems with my webserver
[17:45] <arthur___> when i click on places to open my home folder or any other of the folders a window pops up gnome cd master giving me choices like to burn a cd??? instead of the folder it self?  wheree is the settings at to change it back to normal
[17:46] <ikonia> eXpLoD: what are you trying to build ?
[17:46] <ardian> When I run something that's PHP it doesn't run the application it asks me to download it ??
[17:46] <eXpLoD> gnome commander,duh
[17:46] <jrib> ardian: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[17:46] <chang-li> erUSUL, thanks, checking now.
[17:46] <jrib> !lamp | ardian
[17:46] <DaGeek247> chriss_ so you are wanting to access the windows partition and use it to hold your files?
[17:46] <ikonia> eXpLoD: don't get smart, I'm asking to be clear
[17:46] <jrib> ardian: follow the troubleshooting steps for your issue on the wiki link ubottu has just given you
[17:46] <chriss_> DaGeek yes
[17:46] <ardian> ok thanks jrib
[17:46] <stevecam> an error ocured while applying the operations see the details for more information
[17:47] <ikonia> eXpLoD: it's already built for you in the ubuntu repos
[17:47] <ikonia> eXpLoD: search for the package gnome-commander and install it through the package manager
[17:47] <minimec> dnkbd: Did you chek that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9951334&postcount=12
[17:47] <stevecam> the details dont say anything useful
[17:47] <dnkbd> minimec, yes, that is the driver lshw says it is using
[17:47] <MysterX> erUSUL: i've got it ithnik
[17:47] <sacarlson> ardian: it's a setting in /etc/apache2 the decides what will be used to run things
[17:47] <erUSUL> stevecam: have you tried command line? « sudo e2fsck /dev/sdxx » ?
[17:47] <MysterX> erUSUL: i use Gnome Mplayer now
[17:48] <MysterX> erUSUL: 50 % cpu.
[17:48] <erUSUL> MysterX: ok
[17:48] <ardian> sacarlson, I installed it through tasksel
[17:48] <stevecam> erUSUL, yes, that tells me errors about the device being in use
[17:48] <stevecam> but the device is not in use
[17:48] <erUSUL> stevecam: you mounted it?
[17:48] <stevecam> no
[17:48] <delemi> Am I using this command correctly    delemi@NASFERATU:/media$ sudo mount -Lt ntfs Delemi
[17:48] <juniour> hey how cna i check the full capacity of my hard disk
[17:48] <sacarlson> ardian: I'm not sure what you all use but some how it gets mest up
[17:48] <erUSUL> stevecam: recheck. sometimes gparted mount them while probing the device
[17:48] <chang-li> erUSUL, thanks. the link was very helpful . devkit-disks is on karmic. I will try to reconfigure it.
[17:49] <MysterX> erUSUL: hmm to fast.. i't 100% now.. :(
[17:49] <ikonia> delemi: no
[17:49] <erUSUL> chang-li: no problem
[17:49] <ikonia> delemi: where are you trying to mount that disk ?
[17:50] <stevecam> erUSUL, i have, ive also tried rebooting, e2fsck comes up with the same error consistently
[17:50] <liny_man> chriss_ sorry, pda froze. you a re trying to access the windows partition to hold your excess files?
[17:50] <delemi> ikonia: It auto mounts in /Media
[17:50] <ikonia> delemi: what ?
[17:50] <chriss_> liny_man yes
[17:51] <ikonia> delemi: if it is auto mounted, why are you trying to mount it
[17:51] <minimec> dnkbd: so what exactly is your problem?
[17:51] <erUSUL> stevecam: device is busy ? « grep /dev/sdxx /proc/mounts »
[17:51] <dnkbd> minimec, no wirelss iwconfig shows wlan0 but NM nor wicd can use it and say there are no wireless networks available
[17:52] <DaGeek247> chriss_ the windows partition cn be seen in the places menu.
[17:52] <juniour> how to check the full capacity of hard disk using terminal
[17:52] <stevecam> erUSUL, nothing
[17:52] <stevecam> the device isn't mounted
[17:52] <chriss_> DaGeek yes it is under host
[17:52] <DaGeek247> what are you asking?
[17:53] <DaGeek247> chriss_
[17:53] <minimec> dnkbd: but iwconfig shows it? Could it be that you have a hardware wireless switch, that is 'off'? Is wireless activated in the network-manager-applet (right-click on wireless applet)
[17:53] <hazzarux> evening, everbody
[17:53] <rtdos> erUSUL: if found the following drivers in the kernal directories: atlx atl1e atl2
[17:53] <chriss_> well when I am saving files on ubuntu it is saying I only have 28mb left
[17:54] <erUSUL> rtdos: use atl2 as i said
[17:54] <erUSUL> stevecam: sudo lsof /dev/sdxx
[17:54] <dnkbd> minimec, the switch is on, yes wirless is enabled in NM
[17:54] <DaGeek247> chriss_ how did you choose to set up grub?
[17:54] <simisu> DID IT!!!! REJOICE!!!! :O=)   finally after about two weeks of trying, took me about 8 more hours today (including making backups and stuff like that) and i finally have ubuntu working from my external HDD on both my laptop computers... thanks everyone!
[17:54] <minimec> dnkbd: is there anything in ESSID: , when you type iwconfig?
[17:55] <dnkbd> cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/*/rf_kill
[17:55] <dnkbd> sudo su
[17:55] <dnkbd> echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/*/rf_kill
[17:55] <dnkbd> exit
[17:55] <sacarlson> simisu: goog for you
[17:55] <FloodBot2> dnkbd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <DaGeek247> yay simisu!
[17:55] <stevecam> i get cant stat errors
[17:55] <chriss_> DaGeek thats the part I do not remember
[17:56] <dnkbd> minimec, check pm
[17:56] <emanuele_> !list
[17:56] <erUSUL> stevecam: you are replacing xx with the actual letter number pair? like sda1 or sda3 or sdb2
[17:56] <simisu> yes! good for me, now be expecting my company a little more around these parts with many more silly questions of a linux noob running an OLD computer! ;o)
[17:56] <emanuele_> ubottu !list
[17:56] <stevecam> erUSUL, yes, of course
[17:56] <stevecam> sda1
[17:57] <stevecam> /dev/sda1
[17:57] <DaGeek247> chriss_ if you installed grub on the mbr of the drive, you could shrink the windows partition and grow the ubuntu one.
[17:57] <kaushal> hi
[17:58] <kaushal> what does no reply mean in tracepath IP ?
[17:58] <DaGeek247> hai
[17:58] <derpyderp> is there a way to take away root access from myself until a reboot?
[17:58] <minimec> dnkbd: Please no private messages. So there is an essid:... What if you tried to disable any encryption on the router (for a try) and simply connect without encryption. That could bring us a step further, don't you think?
[17:58] <erUSUL> stevecam: and the exact error was can not stat /dev/sda1 no such file or dir?
[17:59] <chriss_> DaGeek ubuntu will recognize portable hdd ?
[17:59] <dnkbd> minimec, there is no encryption on the router right now
[17:59] <stevecam> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[17:59] <dnkbd> minimec, not sure where that odd essid is coming from either
[17:59] <DaGeek247> chriss_ what do you mean?
[17:59] <stevecam> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/ubuntu/.gvfs
[18:00] <minimec> dnkbd: That essid is in fact rather strange... So you did not choose this one yourself?
[18:00] <dnkbd> minimec, no i did not
[18:00] <fishyer> hi
[18:00] <sht> hey guys i just had a general question. if i have a server with an OS drive and then 4 drives in mdadm raid5, if i reformat the OS drive the 4 drives in raid5 are obviously readable and mountable in the new OS right?
[18:00] <minimec> dnkbd: what does ifconfig say for your device?
[18:01] <chriss_> DaGeek will ubuntu recognize a portable harddrive
[18:01] <stevecam> erUSUL, i think I might just burn another livecd from somewhere else and use that version of e2fsck
[18:01] <King-C> G'day everyone
[18:01] <dnkbd> minimec, ifconfig does not show wlan0
[18:01] <chriss_> DaGeek for saving files
[18:01] <DaGeek247> it should support porable hdds.
[18:01] <King-C> Can anybody tell me how to bypass my router's firewall? Basically I want to run a service and I can't open ports on my connection
[18:01] <DaGeek247> !support
[18:01] <DaGeek247> oops
[18:02] <erUSUL> stevecam: well the error from lsof does not make much sense...
[18:02] <minimec> dnkbd: iwlist wlan0 scanning?
[18:02] <chriss_> ok thanks DaGeek appreciate your help
[18:02] <DaGeek247> chriss_ your welcome
[18:02] <stevecam> erUSUL, i am assuming that is some weird and wonderful configuration on the cd that is causing this error
[18:03] <dnkbd> minimec, wlan0     No scan results
[18:03] <TTSDA> Hi
[18:03] <TTSDA> If someone could help me I would be glad
[18:03] <DasEi> !ask
[18:03] <jack_> King-C: you need to put the IP on your machine in the DMZ
[18:03] <TTSDA> I run a ubuntu server machine
[18:03] <King-C> jack_: It doesn't have one.
[18:03] <jack_> TTSDA: good story bro
[18:03] <jack_> King-C: what does it have?
[18:03] <King-C> jack_: I can't access those settings, the ISP won't do it for me.
[18:03] <TTSDA> And when I turn it on, in the monitor connected it asks for a username and password
[18:03] <jrib> TTSDA: please keep your question on a single line
[18:04] <minimec> dnkbd: if you set essid manually with iwconfig (iwconfig wlan0 essid 'your essid'?
[18:04] <TTSDA> Sec
[18:04] <King-C> jack_: Look, I'm not going through this. I'm really asking if there's anything like hamachi I can use that gives me a publicly accessible IP.
[18:04] <King-C> I can't penetrate the NAT, period.
[18:04] <alesan> hi
[18:04] <DaGeek247> hai
[18:04] <jack_> King-C: THen i cannot help you. good luck.
[18:04] <alesan> is it possible to have firefox4?
[18:05] <King-C> jack_: Right, thanks.
[18:05] <minimec> dnkbd: it's iwconfig wlan0 essid "Your network" -->""
[18:05] <DasEi> alesan: yes, called namoroka
[18:05] <DasEi> !info firefox
[18:05] <dnkbd> minimec the change took in iwconfig
[18:05] <TTSDA> Hello, I run a ubuntu server and when I start it, in the monitor connected it asks for a username and password (like in ssh). I wonder if it is possible to the local session (monitor connected) to auto-login so some account but still ask the user and password in ssh. Thank you
[18:05] <DasEi> !info namoroka
[18:05] <DaGeek247> chriss_ ifyou wanna make sure it will work:
[18:05] <dnkbd> minimec it is now displaying my essid
[18:05] <jack_> TTSDA: i dont think you can auto-login to runlevel3
[18:05] <minimec> dnkbd: now dhclient wlan0
[18:05] <DaGeek247> !hardware > chriss_
[18:05] <Dangr_> Hey all, I like using the alt+mouse2 feature to resize windows easier. But I have a five button mouse and would like to switch buttons since they are easier to click and hold than a mouse wheel. However in Compiz when I change the button for the mouse it falls back to mouse 2 no matter what I do. Is there a way to make it one of the side mouse buttons?
[18:06] <DasEi> alesan: you can have it from an extra repo, even daily build if you like
[18:06] <TTSDA> So, it isnt possible ?
[18:06] <alesan> DasEi, but how?
[18:06] <hazzarux> !info tumucumaque | DasEi
[18:06] <TTSDA> A shame that
[18:06] <minimec> dnkbd: probably sudo dhclient...
[18:06] <TTSDA> Another question, is it possible to run a script when a specific user logs in ?
[18:06] <DasEi> alesan: lucid or maverick ?
[18:06] <alesan> mh
[18:07] <DaGeek247> TTSDA yes
[18:07] <iver> does anyone have any practical experience with the redundancy of raid 5? or using software raid 5 with a 3ghz amd cpu? with my 4x1Tb setup i'm tempted to try raid 5 or raid 10. speed is not the main issue and it would be great to have 3Tb of usable storage with the safety of a drive failing
[18:07] <rtdos> erUSUL i did.
[18:07] <TTSDA> How ?
[18:07] <DasEi> alesan: lsb_release -a tells you
[18:07] <alesan> I have 10.10 I do not remember the funny animals
[18:07] <ubuntu__> kalispera
[18:07] <erUSUL> rtdos: and eth0 did not reappeared?
[18:07] <ubuntu__> kanenas ellinas?
[18:07] <jack_> iver: raid5 will do that for you. yes.
[18:07] <dnkbd> minimec, this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/569725/
[18:07] <alesan> it says, maverik
[18:08] <rtdos> does the cd have something i can use to repair? or can i upgrade to 10.10 (it's currently 8.04) without losing anything ?
[18:08] <sht> hey guys i just had a general question. if i have a server with an OS drive and then 4 drives in mdadm raid5, if i reformat the OS drive the 4 drives in raid5 are obviously readable and mountable in the new OS right?
[18:08] <andrea_> hey there, i0ve got some issues with wireless connection on a samsung x420
[18:08] <danilo> ciao a tutti
[18:08] <TTSDA> DaGeek247: How ?
[18:08] <minimec> dnkbd: sudo dhclinet wlan0  <-- You did that?
[18:08] <DasEi> alesan: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/install-firefox-4-0-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-ppa/
[18:08] <dnkbd> yes the pastebin is the output of it
[18:08] <ubuntu__> tutti fruti
[18:08] <dnkbd> minimec, yes the pastebin is the output of it
[18:08] <iver> jack: from reading on forums and mailinglists it seems that raid 5 is not so safe as a URE can happen during a rebuild. is this a frequent phenomenon?
[18:08] <ubuntu__> kanenas ellina edo???
[18:08] <dnkbd> minimec, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569725/
[18:08] <minimec> dnkbd: stupid me ... ;)
[18:09] <magnetron> !it | danilo
[18:09] <andrea_> connection goes down after 2 min and won't reconnect
[18:09] <ikonia> sht: they should be fine, it's useful to backup the mdadm.conf though, you'll have to manually start the array the first boot though
[18:09] <TTSDA> !pt | TTSDA
[18:09] <TTSDA> ok
[18:09] <chang-li> erUSUL, u still here?
[18:09] <erUSUL> chang-li: yes
[18:09] <DasEi> alesan: ask again if unsure, put please put nick, I almost lost "maverik
[18:09] <andrea_> anybody please can help me?
[18:09] <ubuntu__> gigi??
[18:09] <jack_> sht: you may need to rebuild the md device, but as long as you dont mess with the disks they'll be fine
[18:10] <alesan> DasEi, I wonder who does that kind of howtos; wasn't it easier to say edit /etc/whaterever and add this line then do apt-whatever?
[18:10] <minimec> dnkbd: what does dmesg say about the device. Is the driver loaded correctly?
[18:10] <nobodybk> hey anyone
[18:10] <sht> jack_: as in, my data will remain intact after rebuilding?
[18:10] <nobodybk> KDE or Gnome , what's better ?
[18:10] <DasEi> alesan: you can do it either way
[18:10] <Macstheyjustsuck> Maverick won't save my settings. I change the resolution and the time, shut down (properly) and turn it back on and it never stays the way I set it.
[18:10] <jack_> iver: i've never had any problems with raid5 rebuilding. you can test it a few times by manually failing the disks to see if you have a problem
[18:11] <ikonia> sht: data will bit spot on if you don't mess with the disks
[18:11] <jack_> sht: if you dont touch the disks, the data will be there. the software raid will put metadata on the disk that will let mdadm know which disks belong to which array
[18:11] <sht> i thought so. i just wanted to make sure
[18:11] <dnkbd> minimec, initialization failed
[18:11] <sht> thanks :)
[18:11] <jack_> sht: so, if you did a complete re-install, you may need to tell the software to rebuild the array, but everything shoudl be fine
[18:11] <ikonia> sht: good to backup the mdadm.conf though for reference
[18:11] <chang-li> erUSUL, ok so devkit is the culprit in karmic for handling basically all info about devices. bad news there is no config file, but changes must be set by cli. I could write a startup script and put it into init.d/rc which would solve my problem.
[18:11] <iver> jack_: alright, i think i'll just take your word for it ;) critical data needs a separate backup in either case. thanks
[18:12] <jack_> iver: also, always do a backup before doing anything with your disks. :P
[18:12] <erUSUL> chang-li: i see; and the problem is?
[18:12] <minimec> dnkbd: which is bad... So the problem lies there.
[18:12] <dnkbd> minimec, so reinstall the driver?
[18:12] <chang-li> erUSUL, noproblemo...:)
[18:12] <minimec> dnkbd: Is this a 'self compiled' driver?
[18:12] <dnkbd> from realtek yes
[18:13] <andrea_> nobody can help my with that wireless problem?
[18:13] <cntb> any preference recomentdation for video editing? PITIVI or openshot ?
[18:13] <iver> jack_: everything is temporarily backed up at another server
[18:13] <jrasmussen> hi
[18:13] <erUSUL> chang-li: ahh ok ;)
[18:13] <dnkbd> minimec, from realtek yes had no problems when it compiled
[18:13] <s5s> in evolution mail when I have filers with a rule "Subject: abc; then; Delete" does this mean that filters are applied automatically when mail arrives or do I need to apply filters manually?
[18:13] <jrasmussen> I am installing ubuntu 10.10 right now and am at the partition disks
[18:13] <minimec> dnkbd: well I would take all info we collected and send them to the realtec support. I guess I cannot help you further.
[18:13] <jack_> iver: i would suggest you get everything hte way you want it, manually fail one of yoru disks, and watch it rebuild via /proc/mdstat
[18:13] <jrasmussen> need to decide which option ... any suggestions?
[18:13] <dnkbd> minimec, thank you it is greatly appriciated
[18:13] <jrasmussen> I said yes to RAID
[18:13] <cntb> and other -df - diskfree) function in nautilus?
[18:13] <jack_> jrasmussen: ubuntu soudl take the whole drive! muahhaha
[18:13] <chang-li> erUSUL, devkit probably had issues, thats why they changed to udisks.
[18:14] <jrasmussen> with LVM?
[18:14] <minimec> dnkbd: Maybe you could try another kernel version. That might help...
[18:14] <jack_> jrasmussen: LVM is awesome. I use it on my desktop
[18:14] <rtdos> how can i upgrade a machine from 8.04 to 10.10 without losing anyting? i lost my network drivers and the ability to enter the desktop (i'm stuck in command line only mode)
[18:14] <erUSUL> chang-li: it was more a change of names afaik... what they abandoned is hald
[18:14] <theperfecttaco> does anyone know how to rearrange a boot selector so windows is no longer default?
[18:14] <jack_> jrasmussen: i always do LVM installs and would suggest it if you can set it up
[18:14] <iver> jack_: will do. by manually failing a drive you mean to just disconnect it, right?
[18:14] <jrasmussen> ok, thx -- I thought that looked like the best option
[18:14] <minimec> dnkbd: Does realtek inidcate with what kernel they tested the driver?
[18:14] <jack_> iver: no. ther eis a comman
[18:14] <cntb> jrasmussen, and lvm are special cases
[18:14] <jrasmussen> special cases?
[18:14] <DasEi> rtdos: I assume you did the upgrade already ?
[18:15] <jack_> iver: i THINK its like... mdadm -F /dev/sda
[18:15] <iver> jack_: alright, will look through the man-pages then
[18:15] <minimec> dnkbd: Kernel version would also be an important point to add to the support mail...
[18:15] <iver> jack_: thanks for your time. talk back to you after the testing if youre still online
[18:15] <jrasmussen> cntb: but LVM is the one to select, right?  I will just go on and hope to figure this out!
[18:15] <jack_> jrasmussen: Red Hat has some good public documentation on LVM administration. I would highly suggest reading through it
[18:15] <dnkbd> minimec, they do not
[18:15] <jrasmussen> jack_: I will do that...
[18:15] <dnkbd> minimec, my kernel is -25
[18:16] <jack_> jrasmussen: LVM requires that you think about how your storage works differently. If you're new to storage, you might want to go with the default 'create partitions on disk' option they have
[18:16] <jrasmussen> first I will get through the installation!!!
[18:16] <minimec> dnkbd: so it's the normal 10.10 2.6.35-25 kernel without any changes?
[18:16] <dnkbd> minimec, yes
[18:17] <warpi> hello, does anyone know how to share files through the network easly with ubuntu?
[18:17] <jack_> warpi: right click the folder, click' share' and then hit ok
[18:17] <jack_> or w/e it is
[18:17] <s5fs> "Sharing Options" haha
[18:18] <DasEi> warpi: few ways, I like ssh
[18:18] <BluesKaj> !smb | warpi
[18:19] <BluesKaj> DasEi, I agree but samba or smb is best for new users
[18:19] <Renatorv> excuse me
[18:20] <warpi> DasEi, BluesKaj: thanks for the quick response! I will try the link you posted
[18:20] <minimec> dnkbd: I would probably take a kernel from the ubuntu mainline and compile the driver against that kernel just for a test. --> Boot option in grub. That's what I would do. Still I am not sure that I can help you further. sorry.
[18:20] <DasEi> warpi: additional info  ? a network folder or just exchanging  files ? used OS'es ?
[18:20] <cntb> on GUI needing -df - diskfree) function in nautilus?
[18:20] <JoshDreamland> Does anyone know where I might find someone who'd be willing to build me an official package?
[18:20] <Renatorv> what is the comand to see the list of chat rooms
[18:20] <jrasmussen> jack_: my options are 'resize SCSI7 (0,1,0) partition #3 (sde) and use freed space', 'use entire partition', 'use entire disk'  -- or entire disk LVM / encrypted LVM
[18:20] <rtdos> DasEi - no i have not. that's what i'm trying to do now. i some how lost my network connection after installing openbox ose and because of that i lost my ability to boot up the desktop
[18:20] <minimec> dnkbd: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:20] <MysterX> erUSUL: ok i've nailed it!
[18:20] <JoshDreamland> bleh, maybe I'll just do it the unofficial way and let people deal with it
[18:20] <DasEi> Renatorv: all ? can be hard on large networks : /list
[18:21] <s5s> Does anyone know how to make evolution mail apply filters automatically without having to use CTRL-Y
[18:21] <Renatorv> ok, thanks
[18:21] <warpi> DasEi, server uses kubuntu and two clients who is using kubunntu
[18:21] <MysterX> erUSUL: i installed the latest nvidia drivers.. 270.18 beta
[18:21] <Renatorv> itś not working
[18:21] <warpi> i want to share folders
[18:21] <Renatorv> says unkown comand
[18:21] <Lyonz> my sound works in one user account but not in the other user account
[18:22] <erUSUL> !yay | MysterX
[18:22] <DasEi> warpi: yes, can do a shared folder by samba or nfs, for just file transfer ssh with scp/rsync
[18:22] <delemi> Sorry I was disconnected
[18:22] <hazzarux> is IRCAnswers.com logging this channel?
[18:22] <MysterX> erUSUL: yeah i am very very pleased with this
[18:22] <DasEi> hazzarux: irc.ubuntu.com does
[18:22] <Otacon22> Humm.. I would like to know why the indicator-applet-session is taking 468MB of ram on mu ubuntu 10.04
[18:22] <Otacon22> ù/j #ubuntu-dev
[18:23] <warpi> DasEi, oki, thanks, i will start testing with samba
[18:23] <hazzarux> DasEi: ircanswers.com too, i think.
[18:24] <Lyonz> how do I get my sound to work in all user accounts.
[18:24] <Rav> vrlogrs.com - for those wanting a laugh
[18:25] <nijan> Hello all, this is what I got. To access the internet I have to authenticate on a jsp page thorugh https. I can ping the server and visit the html redirect page, but when it comes to the auth pages it goes timeout. No error message anywher. Any clue?
[18:25] <DasEi> rtdos: just loosing network shouldn't affect booting into X; at a dist-upgrade all foreign apps, like wrapped drivers and so on get disabled, as they are not in the repos and could otherwise break the system, .. whole story ? you upggraded hardy to lucid and now just get a command line ?
[18:25] <nijan> Hello alll (sorry to repeat). To access the internet I have to authenticate on a jsp page thorugh https. I can ping the server and visit the html redirect page, but when it comes to the auth pages it goes timeout. No error message anywher. Any clue?
[18:25] <MagicJ> how do I make the internal speakers on the computer make a beep.  Clearly it is possible since the system does it when it boots.  I do not want to use the external speakers
[18:26] <DasEi> MagicJ: man beep
[18:26] <Rav> vrlogrs.com - for those wanting a laugh
[18:26] <simisu> why is it that when i restart my computer it says Operating system not found  and then when i press enter it loads the grub?
[18:27] <MagicJ> DasEi - there is no man page for beep on my system
[18:27] <Starminn> !ot |  Rav
[18:27] <DasEi> MagicJ: distro ?
[18:28] <MagicJ> DasEi - running 10.4 - actually let me install beep - I see it is an option
[18:28] <Starminn> DasEi: (I also just tried it, running 10.10, and I have no man for "beep")
[18:28] <DasEi> simisu: bios not set to boot first from desired hd ?!
[18:28] <DasEi> MagicJ: install then, there you go
[18:29] <ohsix> MagicJ: that's done with ioctl's on the console if it's not in the foreground, theres a daemon to play music on it :]
[18:29] <juk> MagicJ: printf "\a"
[18:29] <judget> i just did a fcresh install of ubuntu desktop 10.10 and cant get past the login screen
[18:29] <judget> it keeps bringing me back to the login screen
[18:29] <MagicJ> juk: no that uses the extenral speakers
[18:30] <juk> MagicJ: ah
[18:30] <bonjoyee> judget: login/passwords correct?
[18:30] <DasEi> judget: press ctl-alt+F1 , login to commandline, then : sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm && sudo service gdm restart
[18:30] <Rav> vrlogrs.com - for those wanting a laugh
[18:31] <judget> thanks DasEI Ill try that now
[18:31] <xanatax> hrm, i just did an install of ubuntu server 10.10, then `apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop`
[18:31] <judget> password is definateky correct
[18:31] <MagicJ> DasEi - I have beep now - and according to the man page it would appear that: beep -f 440 -l 250 should play an A for 1/4 a second - I hear nothing - what am I missing
[18:32] <xanatax> surprisingly, on reboot, this worked perfectly
[18:32] <xanatax> login worked, graphics card appears 100%, and compiz effects are running
[18:32] <Macstheyjustsuck> When I plug in my PSP, it shows up in "Computer" but doesn't show up on the desktop and I can't open it or anything
[18:32] <xanatax> only problem is no menubar, no taskbar
[18:33] <simisu> why don´t i have Options in the Firefox installed with ubuntu?
[18:33] <zehruela> Hey guys, how can i change to "performance" mode on ubuntu 10.10? Seems like I'm always on low power mode...
[18:33] <MagicJ> DasEi, in fact the man page says "beep" alone should work, but I hear notnhing
[18:33] <atman> please help some one i have googled , i have asked people here as well no one has replied, i want to sync /var/www folder to dropbox, any one knows how to do it ?
[18:33] <xanatax> are there other all-in-one packages like "ubuntustudio-desktop" that upgrade a basic ubuntu to other roles?
[18:34] <gnooome> co tam?
[18:34] <atman> what is it gnoome ?
[18:35] <atman> please help some one i have googled , i have asked people here as well no one has replied, i want to sync /var/www folder to dropbox, any one knows how to do it ?
[18:35] <Starminn> !patience | atman
[18:35] <xanatax> like, upgrade the basic UbuntuDesktop with Server packages?  or the reverse?
[18:35] <Finner> Hi there, I managed to break my ubuntu desktop. I had to do a hard reboot after it hang on a password prompt and now when I log in I only get the background, no toolbars or anything.
[18:35] <DasEi> MagicJ: idk, works here, but there was another solution, I can look up in a minute
[18:35] <atman> sorry
[18:35] <Starminn> xanatax: The server version of Ubuntu lacks a Desktop Environment to my knowledge.
[18:36] <Starminn> atman:  Not a problem.
[18:36] <MagicJ> DasEi, : would appreciate that - any guesses as to why the thibg is not working anyway
[18:36] <Starminn> simisu: Could you elaborate please?
[18:36] <warpi> DasEi, BluesKaj: now samba is working, thank you so much for the help!
[18:36] <xanatax> yeah, i'm looking at something of a hybrid.  either a server with desktop features, or a limited desktop, with many upgrades
[18:36] <trism> atman: I just have a cronjob set up that cds to the parent directory of what I want to sync and runs: rsync -av "directory_name" "$HOME/Dropbox/Sync"; dropbox does the rest
[18:36] <Dulak> xanatax: only the kernel is different between them, also the list of packages installed, you can install the desktop packages to the server version, or the server kernel to the desktop version, as you like
[18:37] <simisu> Starminn: i have finished installing ubuntu and am trying to change stuff in firefox but there is no Options in the menue
[18:37] <xanatax> Dulak: that is *exactly* what I'm up to...  is there a "package" of that?
[18:37] <DasEi> warpi: have files :)
[18:37] <xanatax> or is there a list you know of that indicates what the names are?
[18:37] <Starminn> xanatax: Just as Dulak said, yes. So what I would suggest is start with whichever has the most things you want and add the stuff you need from there.
[18:37] <DasEi> MagicJ: sound itself works on the system ?
[18:38] <judget> DasEI same problem after doing what un suggest and a rebbot
[18:38] <GaryD> hey all. i just can't find what i'm looking for. maybe someone can help? i want to convert avi files to mp4 as they stream with minidlna. does anyone know anything about this?
[18:38] <Dulak> xanatax: there is a virtual package 'ubuntu-desktop' to get the desktop stuff onto a server install
[18:38] <xanatax> yeah, I'm fine with that... but the "package" installs, like ubuntustudio-audio...
[18:38] <xanatax> that it!
[18:38] <simisu> Starminn: it´s just not where it´s supposed to be and i can´t locate it anywhere in the manues, any idea what happend to the Options?
[18:38] <MagicJ> DasEi - what do you mean - I get regular Ububtu sounds through the external speakers and I get the beep on boot/POST hrough the internal one
[18:38] <xanatax> i'm looking for those
[18:38] <mevvis> folk, Im drunk, what do think about that?
[18:38] <Starminn> xanatax: Looking for something like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[18:38] <mevvis> :D
[18:39] <atman> trism , i did not get it clearly
[18:39] <DasEi> judget: already followed the hint about wrong password ? (sudo should have shown if correct pass was used)
[18:39] <atman> can u plz help me a bit more
[18:39] <xanatax> quite possibly!  ;)
[18:39] <Finner> btw, trying to fix my desktop, I also wondered if something had removed ubuntu-desktop but it seemed to be installed just fine .
[18:39] <ChogyDan> xanatax: tasksel --list-tasks
[18:39] <DasEi> MagicJ: so this isn't the issue
[18:39] <Starminn> simisu: To my knowledge there never was an "Options" menu. I believe you are looking for "Edit->Preferences"
[18:39] <judget> ya password is right I used it for the command prompt when i did the reconfigure u suggested
[18:40] <MagicJ> DasEi - so any chance of that other solution
[18:40] <trism> atman: basically, you just need to copy the files you want to sync to the ~/Dropbox directory somehow, there are many ways to do that, I use the rsync command from a cronjob so it runs once a day to backup my directories
[18:40] <DasEi> judget: then again  with : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:40] <atman> oh
[18:40] <DasEi> (alt-ctrl+F1), judget
[18:40] <atman> do you have the cmd for setting up cron handy ?
[18:41] <DasEi> !cron
[18:41] <xanatax> ChogyDan: FTW  ;)
[18:41] <xanatax> thanks so much, everyone!
[18:41] <mevvis> Hey, whos wanna drunk bear with me? Liverpool
[18:41] <atman> ok ubottu,thanks so much
[18:42]  * juk remember that beep on jaunty would freek out users
[18:42] <atman> Thanks to trism
[18:42] <infid> anyone else here using KeepassX and noticing that your password no longer works? was it like a bad update or what?
[18:42] <simisu> Starminn: thanks i found it... i know that on my windows it has Options so !shrug! thanks thoguh
[18:42] <blkdg> i set up a print server with ubuntu 10.4. all machines are connected via dhcp to a router. does that mean that the printer is only visable from the router onwards ?
[18:42] <trism> atman: you're welcome
[18:42] <Polygonspark> Hi all. I need help to access my old home directory. I just reinstalled 10.10 with a new username (I formated root and saved home). The old home dir is encrypted, how do I decrypt the directory so that I can move over some files from the old home dir to my new home?
[18:42] <Luis_> Hi, I'm having some issues with a new install of ubuntu and had no luck on the forums, am i in the right place to ask for some help, please?
[18:43] <Starminn> simisu: You probably weren't using the same version. Windows doesn't have it either for the same version.
[18:43] <jrib> !encrypt | Polygonspark
[18:43] <blkdg> Luis_, don't ask to ask
[18:43] <Starminn> Luis_: Yep. Go ahead and ask
[18:43] <simisu> so maybe i need to update the version?
[18:43] <Polygonspark> jrib: thanks
[18:43] <xanatax> Starminn: any idea if the "tasks" listed by tasksel are on the 'packages.ubuntu.com' page?
[18:44] <Starminn> simisu: The one on Ubuntu (as far as I know) is Firefox 3.6 or newer. What you were running on WIndows was likely older than 3.6. I looked up screenshots to make sure and they were as I remembered.
[18:44] <Starminn> simisu: Then again, I run Firefox 4 Beta on both Windows and Ubuntu, so... :)
[18:45] <judget> DasEi same ting after doin the dpkg-reconfiger  xserver
[18:45] <Starminn> xanatax: I don't know. Never heard of tasksel so I just installed it and was about to play around with it.
[18:45] <Luis_> sorry wasn't sure if it was the right channel, its a long one to explian but basicly, i can't log in, GNOME  asks for user details i enter them graphical glitchy/pixelated screen comes up and it resets back to the user log in scree, its just stuck in this loop
[18:45] <rtdos> DadEi....i've not yet upgraded from 8.04 to 10.10 but i thought an upgrade might help. if it won't help how do i reinstall or repair my eth0 and desktop?
[18:45] <simisu> Starminn thank you!
[18:46] <Luis_> its a new install of ubuntu (10.04) but the same happens in 10.10
[18:46] <blkdg> i just set up a print server with 10.4. all machines in the house see the printer. Is the printer SEEN by anything else?
[18:47] <blkdg> Luis_, which graphics card?
[18:47] <Polygonspark> jrib. thats alot of work just to access another directory... can't I rather do something like right click -> mount -> enter pass?
[18:48] <jrib> Polygonspark: no
[18:48] <Luis_> blkdg, not sure its a built in card in my old Pentium III which i use as a server at home
[18:48] <jrib> Polygonspark: if you want a no brainer way, just create the user with the same pass and login as the user, that should work
[18:48] <judget> i had just had mythbuntu installed on this 10.10 and that seemd to work i think i may go back to 10.04
[18:49] <Polygonspark> jrib, ok, I try that instead. Thanks
[18:49] <MagicJ> DasEi: and others I see comment on the web that I must disable blacklistpcspkr in the modprobe, I see the file: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, once I edit it how do I apply the edit
[18:50] <blkdg> Luis_, this machine ran linux before?
[18:50] <Starminn> simisu: I supppose. Not very familiar with this program so I'm not sure. :) I'd say so or something close to it. Just use whichever you prefer.
[18:52] <DasEi> MagicJ: sudo modprobe -v pcspkr
[18:52] <Luis_> blkdg, if it has then not recently, i beleive i may have had ubuntu installed back in the 7.xx/8.xx days but it has just been used as a file/print server at home running windows since, i'd just like to finnaly get rid of the last windows installation i owned by installing ubuntu on it
[18:52] <DasEi> MagicJ: then try again
[18:52] <DasEi> just beep
[18:54] <Guest-1098> Ubuntu 10.10, Installing WINE from Software Center, it fails saying it needs untrusted packages, no way that I can see around it.. help?
[18:55] <DasEi> MagicJ: if that all doesn't work, there is softbeep, too , though I don't know which device is pointing to the pcspeaker
[18:55] <Guest-1098> Ubuntu 10.10, Installing WINE from Software Center, it fails saying it needs untrusted packages, no way that I can see around it.. help?
[18:55] <Guest-1098> do i need to register my nick, or can people see me?
[18:56] <vocx> Guest-1098, I can see you. Registering is not mandatory but may be beneficial.
[18:56] <DasEi> judget: still around, sorry some background digging here.. again to command line: sudo dhclient (make sure to have internet) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:56] <Luis_> blkdg, I've also tried starting up in "safe mode" and running the package repair tool which went thought a long downloading and installing process but made no difference, it still doesnt work
[18:57] <Guest-1098> Oh okay, thanks.  I'll wait till someone is free to help me with how to get around "untrusted content" when trying to install WINE then :)
[18:57] <Dilan_X9> .
[18:58] <DasEi> MagicJ: does it beep at you now ?
[18:58] <judget> DasEi Ok ill give that a try next otherwise i was gonna do a 10.4 install if all else fails
[18:58] <vocx> Guest-1098, I feel like you have added a third-party repository that contains Wine or some of its dependencies. I using only the basic repos and trying again. I installed Wine years ago, so it only upgrades with the system and haven't experienced what you mention.
[18:58] <MagicJ> DasEi: that modprobe command worked - thank you so much
[18:58] <brandon420> how can i add /media/mary to my apache server?
[18:58] <blkdg> Luis_, one sec
[18:59] <Guest-1098> vocx: I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 from disk (full erase and install) last night, let it do all it's updates, installed Chromium... and so far nothing else
[18:59] <juk> brandon420: #apache or #web
[18:59] <Luis_> blkdg, no problem!, thanks for helping =)
[18:59] <DasEi> MagicJ: if you want it after next reboot, insert modul in /etc/modules
[18:59] <wauf> is it possible to boot a real installation of ubuntu in windows using vmware? For example, i have windows and ubuntu installed... and i dont want to power down windows, but i want to do something from my linux partition, is it possible that i fire up vmware, and tell it to laod my ubuntu partition in a virtual environment?
[18:59] <blkdg> Luis_, decribe the boot process again please.
[18:59] <jack_> wauf: i think you present the drive to vmware as a virtualdisk it will boot
[18:59] <DasEi> wauf: it is
[18:59] <jack_> wauf: but there maybe some issue with drives and stuff
[19:00] <Gwar_Trolle> Does anyone know a surefire way of checking CPU temp inubuntu that THEY THEMSELVES have used?
[19:00] <wauf> Thanks! thats all i needed to know. ^_^ much appreciated. I'll handle the problems as they come from there.
[19:00] <DasEi> wauf : sure ?
[19:00] <sypie> for some testing purposes i want to know where to put my mediawiki files on Ubuntu 10. Someone who knows?
[19:01] <jack_> Gwar_Trolle: i use an avant-windows-navigator addon for cpu temp
[19:01] <judget> did that but had done that earlier strll the same
[19:01] <juk> sypie: /j #mediawiki
[19:01] <DasEi> wauf: you can't use vm for mounting your dualboot, but can have a pc in a pc. else if you just want to acces the partitions, there are other ways (in view of dualboot)
[19:01] <wauf> Another question, i have my documents on a seperate ntfs partition from my windows install. is it possible for linux to manage my ntfs partition, read, write, etc...  ?
[19:01] <Guest-1098> vocx: exact error message is: "Requires installation of untrusted packages" below that "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[19:02] <sypie> juk: i know how to install mediawiki on a remote server. Now i have ubuntu running local and i need to know in which folder i need to put my webfiles
[19:02] <dnkbd> minimec, the problem is solved i am chatting via wifi
[19:02] <Luis_> blkdg, well the computer starts up as normal (currently running 10.04) however when it gets to the login screen (i dont have it set to log in automaticly) i enter my user name and password it then accepts the details fine, goes to log in the screen turns all fuzzy/pixelated and after a few seconds struggleing it just resets back to the login screen... and if i try again the process just repeats
[19:02] <juk> !ntfs | wauf:
[19:02] <sypie> i'm just not used to linux filesystem
[19:02] <minimec> dnkbd: Nice! How did you do it?
[19:02] <wauf> im really thinking if i want to install ubuntu on its own or keep running it through vmware...
[19:02] <vocx> Guest-1098, have you tried installing from the terminal, "sudo aptitude install wine"
[19:03] <anfegame> hey guys , i have a question how do i make a command or a program run with hight priority?
[19:03] <llutz> anfegame: man nice, renice
[19:03] <judget> DasEi still the same should I try going to a new install of 10.4? or do we have any other ideas?
[19:03] <Guest-1098> let me try now
[19:03] <dnkbd> minimec, blacklisted the staging driver and used a driver from an ubuntu forum post
[19:03] <juk> sypie: and documentation only for Win7Dos people ofcourse
[19:03] <vocx> anfegame, you need to explain more. What is this high priority you are talking about?
[19:03] <sypie> juk: working on a Mac
[19:03] <Luis_> blkdg, this is happening right after a fresh install, whether its with 10.10 or 10.04
[19:03] <DasEi> wauf: learn it better in vm, if just new to it, and then consider, if liked -- a dualboot
[19:03] <sypie> juk: and for sure there should be enough docs
[19:04] <anfegame> let say i am going to run the command firefox on hight priority
[19:04] <dnkbd> minimec, only problem is i have to run modprobe when i boot to get it started
[19:04] <anfegame> how would i do it
[19:04] <anfegame> ?
[19:04] <llutz> anfegame: rad man nice, renice
[19:04] <dnkbd> minimec, can i just add that command into init.d?
[19:04] <wauf> thank you!
[19:05] <minimec> dnkbd: if you add the driver to /etc/modules file?
[19:05] <vocx> anfegame, but what does high priority mean for you? You want it to take all available resources or what?
[19:05] <Dulak> dnkbd: add the module name to /etc/modules for it to automatically be probed on boot
[19:05] <DasEi> judget: no, and as in terms of time, looks like like a corrupt burn or iso then, try lucid , and before verify download, burn at slow spead and use cd-own verification , too.. or better even use a usb stick, spare cdrom's
[19:05] <juk> sypie: why would i care
[19:05] <DasEi> !md5
[19:05] <anfegame> alright! i am tryig to run this loop of a mic to sound live through my speakers
[19:06] <anfegame> so i do it with this command sense i dint find no other way
[19:06] <anfegame> and it loops it
[19:06] <Senjai> does anyone her euse mac4lin?
[19:06] <anfegame> but it like plays whatver u say like 3 seconds after
[19:06] <judget> ok im doing 10.4 now ill let u know
[19:06] <anfegame> so i am trying to make it run with highter priority so it sounds right away, as i speak
[19:06] <DasEi> wauf:a vm is a full usable os, but never has the performance of a "native install
[19:06] <DasEi> !dualboot
[19:06] <blkdg> Luis_, is this a basic install?
[19:06] <dnkbd> just the module name nothing else?
[19:07] <anfegame> do u understand what i am trying to do?
[19:07] <Luis_> blkdg, as far as i am aware, yes i don't know what you'd call a basic install but its simply been downloaded from the ubuntu site burnt onto a CD and installed as per the standard installer
[19:07] <dnkbd> brb reboot
[19:08] <blkdg> Luis_, what i mean is it's not a server version of the os. it's the same one you'd use on grandmas pc right?
[19:09] <anfegame> basically i need to know how to make this command run in real time
[19:09] <Luis_> blkdg, Yes, i tried the server install foolishly thinking it had a GUI but when i was faced with terminal i just couldn't coupe, i dont know enough and find it rather frustrating
[19:10] <s0u][ight> hello, can i get rid of the left dock in unity?
[19:10] <vocx> !enter | anfegame
[19:10] <llutz> anfegame: you can't without using a rt-kernel
[19:10] <Chikokishi> I have two ubuntu loaders.  The first loader has sound but no internet and the second loader has internet but no sound.  Why do i have 2 to start with, and why are they different?
[19:10] <vocx> anfegame, what you want is real time, not high priority
[19:11] <blkdg> Luis_, grab 10.4 or 10.10 standerd 32 bit installer and try again.
[19:12] <simisu> what dose ¨cd to the directory you downloaded the tar.gz file into¨ mean? i´m trying to download a program from sourceforge and install it and it seems very compilcated to me for just running a program... can anyone help?
[19:12] <anfegame> how do i run something with real time?
[19:12] <blkdg> Luis_, the server flavour is ment for headless boxes
[19:12] <blkdg> usually
[19:12] <simisu> !cd
[19:12] <Macstheyjustsuck> When I plug in my PSP, it shows up in "Computer" but doesn't show up on the desktop and I can't open it or anything
[19:12] <vocx> simisu, what program? Usually you don't have to install programs by yourself if they are already packaged in the Ubuntu repository.
[19:13] <Luis_> blkdg, its an option but i'd have thought that after installing and reinstalling ubuntu 3 times the answer that reinstalling isn't going to cut it is pretty clear =)
[19:13] <simisu> vocx nope it´s a mudclient (geeky i know)
[19:13] <simisu> or should i find another one that is less complicated to run?
[19:14] <vocx> simisu, and you don't even know how to extract the files???
[19:14] <simisu> ummm nope... i´m a complete noob
[19:14] <vocx> simisu, you no geeky enough
[19:14] <Starminn> simisu: You remember .zip files on Windows?
[19:14] <simisu> haha
[19:14] <simisu> yes
[19:14] <Squarism> i started using solaris around 1995. It feels like "unix/linux" at its core havent moved that much since then.. sure better support for this and that.. but its the same bash, same unix gnu utilities etc.. arent there any pioneering work done to utils / scripting etc?
[19:15] <Starminn> simisu: .tar.gz is similar to those. It's a type of compressed file.
[19:15] <llutz> anfegame: if not mind possibly breaking your system: http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[19:15] <krger> Squarism: I think they call it "Mac OS X."
[19:15] <juk> Squarism: changelogs perhaps?
[19:15] <Starminn> simisu: The command "cd" means "Change directory" and exists in Windows as well. So "Change directory to where you installed the .tar.gz" means in the Terminal type in "cd /path/to/the/tar.gz/folder
[19:16] <anfegame> really! man i dont want to do something so risky
[19:16] <juk> Squarism: you might wanna sync, catch up back from 95
[19:16] <llutz> anfegame: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[19:16] <anfegame> is there anything that i can do to run a mic just real time
[19:16] <vocx> Squarism, well, I think Bash 4 was just released some time ago. And it has more options, but then again, nobody uses bash's true capabilities, since there is now Perl, Python, and helluva lot of programming languages.
[19:16] <simisu> ummm... ok i just found the files--- and saw there´s an Install file and ran it...
[19:16] <simisu> thanks for the explenation Starminn!
[19:16] <Starminn> simisu: All without quotes of course. So you're just moving yourself to the folder where you downloaded it to (which would probably be your Downloads folder in your Home directory. (i.e. ~/Downloads)
[19:16] <Starminn> simisu: There you go. :)
[19:17] <basy> Hi where is generated this message: "Last login: Sun Feb 20 20:12:05 ..."  i can see i when ssh to PC, i cant find it in /etc/update-motd.d/ ...  ??  Where is it from ??
[19:17] <shubbar> my cd rom is not auto mounting
[19:17] <bcgrown> can anyone help me get my rear analog channels working with Intel ALC887 sound? they don't show up in alsamixer and speaker-test gives me no output on those channels (the front channels work fine though)
[19:17] <Starminn> basy: You could grep for it to try to find it where it's at.
[19:18] <DasEi> basy: /var/log/auth
[19:18] <simisu> i was just following (or trying to anyway, the website that the file came from and of course couldn´t understand the lingo... i´ll get used to it with time right?
[19:18] <infid> anyone else here using KeepassX and noticing that your password no longer works? have versions 0.4.3 on my desktop and 0.4.1 on laptop
[19:18] <simisu> is there some vocabulary website for linux?
[19:18] <anfegame> is there any software that will allow me to run my mic live?
[19:18] <induz> hello guys I have .dmg file, how can i open it on Lucid??
[19:18] <induz> I am on gnome now
[19:18] <chang-li> erUSUL, devkit is giving me headache. I tell it not to poll devices & monitor. I plug in the usb drive and devkit gives it a device name-ie sdf1 and i can still see it in nautilus, but it's not mounted. must be a way to inhibit detection. any thoughts?
[19:19] <juk> induz: what is .dmg file?
[19:19] <DasEi> simisu: use a searchengine by basic linux commands
[19:19] <induz> is there any application to mount .dmg files
[19:19] <erUSUL> induz: you can loop mount it. is a hfs disk image file afaik
[19:19] <multiplatinum> induz,  that's a Mac file, can't be opened on Ubuntu
[19:19] <Luis_> blkdg, is the recommendation still reinstalling or are you having a think? - just wondering! =)
[19:19] <induz> i have wine  on Lucid, then , is it possible
[19:19] <erUSUL> chang-li: well the device name is given by udev. and you really want a device name for the thing....
[19:20] <warpi> DasEi, hello! when i create the share that was described on the homepage you provided me, will people all over the internet be able to access my share then, or is only in my local network?
[19:20] <warpi> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-installation
[19:20] <jrib> basy: check out « man login » probably
[19:20] <tsimpson> basy: it's not part of the motd, it comes from PAM
[19:20] <erUSUL> chang-li: about it not being aviable in nautilus maybe there is something you can tweak in « gconf-editor » apps>nautilus
[19:20] <bvk> how to install one specific package from 10.10 repo on a 10.04 system?
[19:20] <Starminn> simisu: This helped me considerably: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[19:20] <chang-li> erUSUL, yes, granted that. but not to show up in nautilus. because if inadvertantly i hit the name in nautilus, it mounts it.
[19:21] <DasEi> warpi: you can protect it, and also by default, no, look in /etc/smb.conf, good explanations there, or even have an extra group samba
[19:21] <induz> multiplatinum, yes its Mac file[.dmg], is there any application to tranform it to open on Lucid/
[19:21] <warpi> DasEi, oki, thx
[19:21] <chang-li> erUSUL, i will look again in gconf-editor.
[19:21] <Starminn> simisu: And hear's a quick-and-dirty vocab: http://brajeshwar.com/2008/linux-vocabulary/
[19:22] <anfegame> an app to run a live mic?
[19:22] <basy> tsimpson, DasEi: looking for script that generates that message [/var/log/auth should be data for that script], i just want it more in colors :P
[19:22] <multiplatinum> induz,  afaik no
[19:22] <DasEi> warpi: fo that someone has to break in your pc first, neither inet should see your Desktop, nor sambashares
[19:22] <warpi> oki, thx
[19:22] <srk9> How do I order more Ubuntu LiveCDs?
[19:22] <Starminn> simisu: That pretty much sums it all up. The rest of things yeah you'll just learn with time. Like that .tar, .gz, and .tar.gz are the equivalent of .zip, .rar, etc. in Windows.
[19:23] <DasEi> basy: ah, no I get it, the conf-files are in /etc/ssh
[19:23] <tsimpson> basy: it's not a script, it's a plugin (library) for PAM
[19:23] <DasEi> now*
[19:23] <induz> multiplatinum, what kind of file is .dmg and how can i open it on mack as right now its on Lucid system
[19:23] <DasEi> srk9: you just d/l them
[19:23] <bullgard> KojiroAK: Ich empfehle Dir, den Podcast http://podcast-mp3.dradio.de/podcast/2011/02/19/dlf_20110219_1630_46d4dd16.mp3 anzuhören-
[19:23] <Luis_> Can anyone help?, i've just freshly installed ubuntu on my old Pentium III home file/print server and when i  enter my login details the screen goes fuzzy/pixelated and it just resets back to the log in screen
[19:23] <gbsr1> hi. so uh, i just got myself an hp dv6 second gen laptop and it has this switchable dual graphics card thing. now, ubuntu tells me that it does find drivers on that when booting up, but when installed it tells me that there are no screens, log complaining about the switchable graphics not working.
[19:24] <gbsr1> problem is, i can't select which card to use in the bios.
[19:24] <gbsr1> what do i do?
[19:24] <srk9> DasEi: I want professionally designed CDs to give away to people who are disenfranchised with Windows.
[19:24] <ikonia> Luis_: if it's resetting a common problem is no write permissions / out of disk space on /home
[19:24] <multiplatinum> induz,  when ur on ur mac u can just double click it so it installs, check my PM too btw
[19:24] <induz> multiplatinum, is it possible to copy .dmg file on a usb to take it to a mac comp
[19:24] <multiplatinum> yeah induz
[19:24] <ikonia> induz: dmg files are for apple, they are pointless on linux
[19:24] <Luis_> ikonia, it doesnt actually restart it just goes back to the login screen
[19:25] <ikonia> Luis_: the login screen is "X restarting"
[19:25] <Starminn> srk9: So get yourself a LightScribe disc drive, burn a few copies of Ubuntu LiveCDs, and have at 'em. Keep in mind you cannot charge for Ubuntu, only the CDs
[19:25] <ikonia> Luis_: a good test is to boot without X and test the login
[19:25] <juk> !info dmg2img
[19:25] <Starminn> srk9: Though let me point out that this should go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <Luis_> ikonia, forgive my ignorance but how would i go about sorting it out
[19:25] <DasEi> srk9: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/cds
[19:25] <Luis_> ikonia, forgive my ignorance again but what is X
[19:25] <srk9> Starminn: While I was planning to give them away for free, I disagree about your statement about not charging. Nothing keeps you from charging for GPL software. RedHat does it all the time.
[19:26] <induz> juk is it for me
[19:26] <srk9> DasEi: "Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, and we're trying to ensure that we have enough CDs for those who really need one. We've noticed that you've already received CDs of several previous Ubuntu releases."
[19:26] <DasEi> Starminn:  hehe
[19:26] <ikonia> induz: dmg files are usless and pointless on linux
[19:26] <ikonia> Luis_: http://serverfault.com/questions/137776/disable-gdm-in-ubuntu-10-04
[19:26] <srk9> Starminn: Are you sure that this belongs in off-topic? This seems like a support question to me.
[19:27] <ikonia> Luis_: that explains disabling (reverse it to re-enable) gdm which stops the gui
[19:27] <Starminn> srk9: Anyway, my statement remains the same. Grab yourself a LightScribe drive and have at 'em. The discs I give ot others are plain discs. The disc I have for myself I LightScribed and love it. :)
[19:27] <juk> induz: i just take a look :)
[19:27] <DasEi> srk9: see it as joke, see link
[19:27] <ikonia> srk9: you order them from the shipit site
[19:27] <ikonia> srk9: that is the only way
[19:27] <srk9> sathis: I am having issue with a known bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[19:27] <blkdg> Luis_, grab 10.4 or 10.10 standerd 32 bit installer and try again.
[19:27] <srk9> That was meant to go to Starminn.
[19:27] <ikonia> srk9: don't be silly in here
[19:27] <DasEi> ikonia: pm you ?
[19:27] <srk9> ikonia: The ship it site won't send me anymore.
[19:28] <ikonia> DasEi: if you need to
[19:28] <ikonia> srk9: then you are done, support on this matter is closed
[19:28] <induz> juk, I am reading about it http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/dmg2img.shtml
[19:28] <srk9> ikonia: My university has a Linux user's group. Is it possible to request them through that?
[19:28] <NinjaJeff> Is there a command to attach to a process started with the & flag?
[19:28] <Starminn> srk9:  For getting them shipped to you, yes, it is support. For redistributing them to "people who are disenfranchised with Windows," and having the "professionally-designed", that's nto Ubuntu support.
[19:28] <ikonia> srk9: ask your uni,
[19:28] <juk> induz: jee, nice
[19:28] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: attach?
[19:28] <srk9> Starminn: My issue is bug #1.
[19:28] <Luis_> ikonia, surely if it stops the gui then all i'm left with is terminal? i can't really do much with terminal due to lack of familiarity with linux, never the less i'll try it
[19:29] <ikonia> srk9: please stop repeating that
[19:29] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: bring it back to foreground?
[19:29] <srk9> ubottu: Yeah, that is my problem.
[19:29] <ikonia> Luis_: test the login without the gui
[19:29] <NinjaJeff> erUSUL: Yes.
[19:29] <ugmg> hi, i finish installing  Udesktop 10.4 but my eht0 no working and the insterfaces file contain this iface lo inet loopback and i am using vm
[19:29] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: fg %N where N is the job number
[19:29] <LinuxNoob> alright guys, i need to install any version really, that supports 64bit os, 4gb ddr3. of windows on my computer, i absolutely, LOVED starcraft, and its just not the same speeds and such, i have to go back to windows for this one. can anyone lead me in the right direction? i have a win7 key on this laptop. but no cd =/ torrent an OEM version and use my key?
[19:30] <ikonia> Luis_: we don't support windows on this
[19:30] <ikonia> olops
[19:30] <gbsr1> is there a gui frontend for vgaswitcheroo by any chance?
[19:30] <LinuxNoob> starcraft2***
[19:30] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: we don't support windows here
[19:30] <ugmg> so how can i config  eth0 to be dhcp not static
[19:30] <ikonia> Luis_: sotty, not for you
[19:30] <LinuxNoob> its not really supporting windows is it? your supporting linux ubuntu
[19:31] <ikonia> ugmg: use the network manager applet gui
[19:31] <Luis_> ikonia, no worries
[19:31] <LinuxNoob> if i dont get my starcraft2 back i will have to revert x_x
[19:31] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: if you need to use windows, use it
[19:31] <ugmg> i use it but it's empty of any drive
[19:31] <NinjaJeff> I did "vi &" just to test, then tried to kill %N, but it's still up.
[19:31] <LinuxNoob> ah
[19:31] <brunner> How often does Ubuntu make packages that aren't in Debian?
[19:31] <NinjaJeff> And fg %N says no such job, but it appears in "ps"
[19:32] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: do "jobs" in the terminal to see them
[19:32] <srk9> Let me ask another way... Shipit has refused to send me more LiveCDs for 18 months. How can I arrange for them to send me more?
[19:32] <ugmg> is there is any command i can run it from the terminal
[19:32] <ikonia> srk9: you don't, you have used your allocation
[19:32] <srk9> ikonia: How do I get a bigger allocation?
[19:33] <ikonia> srk9: contact them and ask
[19:33] <a1cd> Hey all, first off apologies if this is a stupid question :). I just got onto a server that someone else setup, the /var/log/messages folder is full of FATAL: Cannot find modules.deb. lsmod shows blank. The reason for this as I am seeing is that the output of uname -r is not the same as the folder in /lib/modules. Is there a way to update depmod/modprobe to use this new folder?
[19:33] <srk9> ikonia: Do you have contact information?
[19:33] <srk9> For them?
[19:33] <DasEi> srk9: one last time : http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/cds
[19:33] <ikonia> srk9: I believe it's on the website
[19:33] <ikonia> srk9: or look at DasEi's suggestion
[19:34] <srk9> DasEi: I was already there. They didn't have contact information there.
[19:34] <ugmg> ikonia, any idea
[19:34] <ikonia> ugmg: any idea with what ?
[19:34] <srk9> DasEi: I was there before I tried asking here.
[19:34] <NinjaJeff> erUSUL: Thanks a lot. :D
[19:34] <negrodario> hola
[19:34] <ugmg> how to add eth0 and make it dhcp
[19:34] <negrodario> alguna que hable español
[19:34] <NinjaJeff> Any idea why I couldn't kill the process outright?
[19:34] <mman> que paso negrodario
[19:34] <negrodario> hola che
[19:35] <ikonia> ugmg: does the network manager applet see it ?
[19:35] <ugmg> ikonia,i am using vmware and my os is guest
[19:35] <ikonia> ugmg: so ?
[19:35] <ikonia> ugmg: is't the same process
[19:35] <DasEi> srk9: you can click link to your location ?
[19:35] <negrodario> tengo xubuntu y no me funca el skype
[19:35] <dnkbd> minimec, i have a small problem..... i was connected to my wireless access point, and restarted after adding the module to /etc/modules and then it would no llonger connect with my access point but it readily connects to others
[19:35] <ikonia> !es | negrodario
[19:35] <erUSUL> NinjaJeff: no problem
[19:35] <ugmg> ikonia , now i see the net manager
[19:35] <mman> negrodario, que problema tenes
[19:35] <mman> negrodario, hablame en privado sino se van a enojar por aqui
[19:35] <ugmg> ikonia, wat next
[19:36] <ikonia> !es | negrodario
[19:36] <ikonia> ugmg: configure the device as dhcp
[19:36] <negrodario> cuando hago la prueba de llamada escucho el mensaje pero no me graba el mio, por lo tanto no me escuchan
[19:36] <juk> ubuntu es el ganador
[19:36] <d03boy> hey guys... I'm in kind of a bind. I have an old desktop machine I want to install ubuntu server on but the CD rom on it is bad. I'd like to install using USB but I only have 512MB key. Is there a minimum installation I could use?
[19:36] <negrodario> ok espera q es la 1 ves q entro aca
[19:37] <dnkbd> minimec, i have a small problem..... i was connected to my wireless access point, and restarted after adding the module to /etc/modules and then it would no llonger connect with my access point but it readily connects to others
[19:37] <minimec> dnkbd: you should be able to change the network in the network applet. It has definitly nothing to do with the /etc/modules entry. that only loads the module.
[19:37] <simisu> well i followed the steps in the installation txt but when i type in the code that supposed to open the program it say´s ¨cant read binary file¨ why?
[19:37] <ragas> Im trying to get phpmyadmin to accept larger filesize uploads.  I changed the max_upload_filesize in php.ini - the change is reflected in php -i; i restarted apache.  but its still saying 2048k is the limit.  I checed other relevant vars in php.ini as well.  what else is there?
[19:37] <srk9> DasEi: The distributors charge $5 per CD. :/
[19:37] <dnkbd> minimec, understood but when tryin to change network it just tries and tries and then says it cannot connect, i have tried to set IP's manually as well to no avail
[19:38] <erUSUL> negrodario: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter para entrar en el canal en español
[19:38] <Luis_> ikonia, not having much luck, i managed to find the file and i can see the line i'm supposed to change but it wont allow me to write anything in
[19:38] <khrm> d03boy: you can use net install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[19:38] <DasEi> srk9: is what you wanted, paid cd's in short time, professional make , nor ? the 8DVD for 50 also possible..
[19:39] <d03boy> khrm, but thats for a netbook. Will that turn out the same?
[19:39] <ikonia> Luis_: use sudo to launch the editor
[19:39] <d03boy> khrm, scratch that. nevermind
[19:39] <chovynz> srk9: better than 300 for one "broken" version
[19:39] <minimec> dnkbd: still no encryption on the router? I personally see no reason for that to happen.
[19:40] <dnkbd> minimec, yes still no encryption, i am boggled as well, escpecially since it readily connects to other networks
[19:40] <DasEi> srk9: I still don't get your intend, pm me or talk on in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <srk9> DasEi: I am already there.
[19:40] <erUSUL> !minimal | d03boy
[19:41] <minimec> dnkbd: if you restarted the router?
[19:41] <dnkbd> minimec, yes, but i have to go, but i will be back later
[19:41] <d03boy> erUSUL, now the other problem... I don't have internet connected when I'm installing :) ... i wonder if its possible to do an install, then SSH and finisht eh install later?
[19:41] <minimec> dnkbd: ok. cu
[19:42] <erUSUL> d03boy: really dunno
[19:42] <erUSUL> d03boy: but i doubt it
[19:42] <Luis_> ikonia, i did but it just took me into the file, didnt ask for details or anything, when i press shift Q a little command prompt comes up is there something i'm supposed to write to be able to edit the file?
[19:42] <griphown> hi, anyone ever hear about mydomedia ?
[19:42] <davesnipe360> hello
[19:42] <chovynz> erUSUL: with minimal how would you go about putting that on usb instead of cd?
[19:42] <davesnipe360> i have a problem with evolution email
[19:43] <ikonia> Luis_: what editor are you using ?
[19:43] <davesnipe360> i need to log out of it
[19:43] <davesnipe360> I need to log out of evolution email
[19:43] <davesnipe360> wut do?
[19:43] <erUSUL> chovynz: i thought about it after telling d03boy ; minimal uses alternate installer and i do not know if unetbootin works on those
[19:43] <vega-> davesnipe360: err.. close the program?
[19:43] <davesnipe360> doesnt work
[19:43] <Luis_> ikonia, the one your link recomended vi, if that's an editor at all
[19:43] <davesnipe360> veha
[19:44] <davesnipe360> vega *
[19:44] <ikonia> Luis_: if you don't know how to use an editor, best not to use it, use one you are comfortable with
[19:44] <hoss> Is the 64-bit download located under the Alternative Download section?
[19:44] <chovynz> erUSUL: Would you be able to use this method? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:44] <davesnipe360> I NEED TO LOG OUT OF THE EVOLUTION EMAIL
[19:44] <ikonia> davesnipe360: STOP SHOUTING
[19:44] <davesnipe360> k
[19:44] <davesnipe360> can u help then?
[19:45] <chovynz> davesnipe360: push teh power button
[19:45] <chovynz> that'll log you out.
[19:45] <ikonia> davesnipe360: close the mail application
[19:45] <ikonia> chovynz: easy, that's uncalled for
[19:45] <davesnipe360> i did /b/ro
[19:45] <ikonia> chovynz: help him or don't speak
[19:45] <Luis_> ikonia, i think i'd better knock it on the head then, to be honest i'm not really confortable with any editor
[19:45] <chovynz> ikonia: It is. then he can reboot.
[19:45] <hoss> Is there a stable 64-bit edition for Ubuntu?
[19:45] <ikonia> chovynz: powering off is not how to log out of mail,
[19:45] <davesnipe360> so i closed it but when i open it again, it logs back in
[19:46] <ikonia> hoss: yes, all ubuntu 64bit is stable
[19:46] <chovynz> davesnipe360: do you know how to use kill?
[19:46] <davesnipe360> no
[19:46] <ikonia> davesnipe360: you need to disable auto connect/login then, that should be in preferences
[19:46] <davesnipe360> thank you for your help
[19:46] <davesnipe360> i appreciate t
[19:46] <davesnipe360> it*
[19:46] <hoss> ikonia: where can I download it?
[19:46] <chovynz> davesnipe360: sorry. ikonia is right. im not helping with your situation.
[19:47] <ikonia> hoss: the ubuntu.com website
[19:47] <davesnipe360> kk yea
[19:47] <davesnipe360> ty ikonia
[19:47] <davesnipe360> cya /b/rotatos
[19:47] <hoss> ikonia: I am currently there.  Could you be more specific?
[19:47] <cardamon> Hi guys.  What's the bootloader on the 10.10 liveCD?
[19:47] <cardamon> It's not grub, is it?
[19:48] <ikonia> hoss: go to download
[19:48] <hoss> ikonia: and then
[19:48] <erUSUL> cardamon: i think livecds use syslinux
[19:48] <chovynz> erUSUL: So, it looks like Minimal could work using that usb method, but i've never tried it.
[19:48] <NooBoontoo> I was building this package when all  of a sudden got this message, What could be wrong hereÇ? http://pastebin.com/7CUR6yUf
[19:48] <ikonia> hoss: oh come on, if you can't read the text to find the download you are going to have a problem
[19:48] <chovynz> erUSUL: Have done with other packages but not minimal
[19:48] <erUSUL> chovynz: yes; i never tried either
[19:48] <cardamon> erUSUL: Dunno that I can do what I want with it then.  Thanks though.
[19:48] <judget> DasEi  FYI the 10.04.2 desktop works fine where the 10.10 did not
[19:48] <coz_> chovynz,   I would check on that...last I looked the minimal install cd could not be put onto a usb stick
[19:49] <DasEi> !yay | judget
[19:49] <DasEi> judget: is this a laptop ?
[19:49] <erUSUL> cardamon: what do you want to do ?
[19:49] <erUSUL> !xy
[19:50] <DasEi> judget: I ask because this occured once to me too, though a later upgrade to maverick then worked, but no direct install
[19:50] <cardamon> erUSUL: I have a relic of a Dell that won't boot to USB, apparently doesn't have anything in the BIOS to handle the USB, a liveUSB of the install I actually do want to install, and a LiveCD of 10.10
[19:51] <erUSUL> cardamon: and you can not use a cd?
[19:51] <cardamon> erUSUL: No burner.
[19:51] <judget> not this is a "built from spare parts" desktop dual P4 8oo Mhz with onboard adaptec raid
[19:51] <cardamon> A limitation of resources.
[19:52] <tracdoor> hello
[19:52] <chovynz> cardamon: What resources do you have? Do you know if the usb will work after boot?
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> is there a software that would make cute jpg snapshot of pages? like thumbnails
[19:52] <chovynz> cardamon: And do you have net access on that machine?
[19:52] <zerty> hello what is the default ftp server in ubuntu ?
[19:52] <GeekMan> if i was to run the command udisks --poll-for-media /dev/hdc would i put that under fstab
[19:52] <mman> zerty, there is no default ftp server
[19:52] <cardamon> chovynz: Yes and yes.  But I don't know how do a netboot.
[19:53] <zerty> on ubuntu server edition
[19:53] <GeekMan> i need that to run each time i load a disk and eject on
[19:53] <tracdoor> HOW DO I RUN MY MP3 FILES
[19:53] <chovynz> cardamon: So usb will work after boot, but not on or before boot?
[19:53] <erUSUL> chovynz: pxe boot?
[19:53] <GeekMan> you need the ubuntu restricted plugins tracdoor
[19:53] <erUSUL> !install | cardamon
[19:53] <cardamon> chovynz: Yes.  It need the OS to handle the device.
[19:53] <erUSUL> !codecs | tracdoor
[19:54] <DasEi> tracdoor: stop shouting, install vlc
[19:54] <zerty> hello anyone there ?
[19:54] <zerty> hello what is the default ftp server in ubuntu ?
[19:54] <DasEi> zerty: hi zerty
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> zerty: there is no default one.. theres several in the repos you coul dinstall.
[19:54] <jrib> zerty: there is no default ftp server
[19:54] <erUSUL> zerty: none
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> zerty:   i suggest learning touse ssh and forget ftp ever existed
[19:55] <zerty> i got ubuntu server
[19:55] <magnetron> zerty: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[19:55] <chovynz> cardamon: The reason I ask, is that I've also had similar installation probs. limited resources, no cd/nocd burner, didn't know how to install from net. Do you have access to another computer or only the one?
[19:55] <GeekMan> are you talking about your updates servers (repositories)
[19:55] <erUSUL> zerty: Dr_Willis is right ftp is a relic from the 80's ;P
[19:55] <zerty> thanks magnet
[19:55] <GeekMan> i gtg
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> ftp is beyond a relic.. :)
[19:56] <khrm> cardamon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux This page describes installing from harddisk.
[19:56] <cardamon> chovynz: I have the dell relic, my netbook (which I'm talking to you from), and a connection from one to the other if only I can navigate the router.
[19:56] <JustCJs> I was wondering if it is possible to use vesafb in conjunction with the oss Radeon driver. I had to disable KMS due to issues with brightness, but would nevertheless like to have a fb device
[19:56] <zerty> i got this error at the end
[19:56] <chovynz> cardamon: what os is netbook?
[19:56] <zerty>  postgresql-8.4
[19:56] <zerty>  postgresql
[19:56] <JustCJs> its perhaps a silly questoin ;z
[19:56] <zerty> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:56] <FloodBot3> zerty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:57] <zerty> during the installation of vsftpd
[19:57] <JustCJs> *opensource Radeon driver
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> JustCJs:  should be possible. but ive seen in the past where the framebuffer has issues with some X drivers. try it an dsee.
[19:57] <JustCJs> Dr_Willis:   thanks a lot ;)
[19:57] <chovynz> cardamon: oh wait, that wont help.
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> zerty:   sudo apt-get update, upgrade, try again.. if it still has issues check the bug reports.. and/or try a differnt ftp server.
[19:58] <kurt__> How can I upgrade Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook edition?
[19:58] <chovynz> cardamon: ok. So your Dell has access to the Net right? Do you know if it connects or is just wired up? (btw, wireless or wired?)
[19:58] <anfegame> anyone can help me with the mic problem?
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> zerty:  best answer is to use ssh and forget about ftp.
[19:58] <khrm> d03boy you can use install from harddisk method as describe here depending upon what Os you are using currently :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[19:58] <zerty> well is it really necessary to install update and to upgrade everytime ?
[19:59] <cardamon> chovynz: wired.
[19:59] <kurt__> How can I upgrade Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook edition?
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> zerty:  if you want to trouble shoot the issue.. yes its a step you should do
[19:59] <cardamon> chovynz: And yes, it does have a Boot to Lan option.
[19:59] <zerty> coz the problem come since during the update
[19:59] <zerty> sorry since when i upgrade things on my server
[19:59] <chovynz> cardamon: is legacy usb turned on in bios? What is bios? (name and version)
[19:59] <juk> zerty: just get a cat, give on admining
[20:00] <zamba> where has the fixed font gone?
[20:00] <chovynz> cardamon: just so you know, i don't actually have any answers for you at this stage, im attempting to help you troubleshoot it, so that we can get you up and running.
[20:00] <cardamon> chovynz: No, it's not.  The OS has to run it, afaik.  And can't get you the bios name just yet...give me five  minutes.
[20:00] <cardamon> trying something.
[20:01] <zerty> cat on admining ?
[20:01]  * chovynz goes back to being away
[20:03] <cardamon> chovynz: Oh, and the dell  already has 10.10 on there.  But that's not what I want.
[20:04] <simisu> do i need to manually assign a swap partition?
[20:04] <kurt__> How can I upgrade Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook edition?
[20:06] <ohsix> kurt__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> kurt__:  thats not really a 'upgrade' just an install...
[20:06] <kurt__> Thx
[20:06] <ohsix> it's not an upgrade persay, but it will bring everything in as if you installed the netbook edition, and you'll be able to pick the netbook session on the login screen
[20:09] <Guest44846> exit
[20:13] <puspendu> hiiii
[20:13] <puspendu> all
[20:13] <mkanyicy> hi puspendu
[20:13] <puspendu> helo
[20:13] <mkanyicy> !ask | puspendu
[20:14] <puspendu> m new in dis ookkeis
[20:14] <hazzarux> !english | puspendu
[20:14] <puspendu> actuly m new i here
[20:14] <hazzarux> puspendu: stop speaking gibberish, please.
[20:15] <puspendu> m speaking in english
[20:15] <mkanyicy> hazzarux, calm down
[20:15] <puspendu> do u understand
[20:15] <bc81> puspendu: ask your ubuntu related question, or go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:16] <puspendu> what is unity ?
[20:16] <ardian>  Is it a big problem if you change your hostname ?
[20:16] <bc81> !info unity | puspendu
[20:16] <puspendu> thnku
[20:17] <hazzarux> mkanyicy: i am calm.
[20:17] <bc81> ardian: not that big of problem, i have done it before once..a bigger problem if you change user account names
[20:17] <puspendu> is there any video calling software in ubuntu ?
[20:17] <ardian> ou okay
[20:17] <erUSUL> !hostname | ardian
[20:18] <erUSUL> puspendu: ekiga, empathy and skype is aviable too
[20:18] <mkanyicy> puspendu, skype
[20:18] <ardian> Thank you erUSUL
[20:18] <FSX> The default printing GUI in Xubuntu is a bit limited. Is there an alternative?
[20:18] <puspendu> thnku mkanyicy
[20:18] <puspendu> :)
[20:19] <ohsix> FSX: you mean the printer configuration? the ui in apps for printing should be the same regardless of the DE (as long as it's gtk)
[20:20] <FSX> ohsix: I mean the GUI you see when you print a photo for example. My parents are not happy with the default one.
[20:21] <ohsix> FSX: you might need to look to another app thats printing the picture and hope its changes to the dialogue suffice
[20:21] <ohsix> FSX: the print preview stuff is weird in firefox tho, can't do much about that
[20:21] <hazzarux> FSX: i don't know.. but ... maybe.. are these different in GNOME vs. KDE?
[20:22] <FSX> ohsi, hazzarux: Is it possible to replace the default one?
[20:22] <ohsix> they're different, but not much; if they're not happy with the existing one it's probably a bug, or they're nuts
[20:23] <arkani> where do I should look to make XCHAT open 2 irc hanels at startup?
[20:23] <YankDownUnder> #xchat -or- read the docs
[20:23] <hazzarux> FSX: yes you can replace gnome by kde. (never done that, but already have had the idea). sudo apt-get install kde & then choose KDE @login screen.
[20:23] <FSX> ohsix: I can say they're not nuts. ;) My mom prints a lot of photos and it's not easy enough to place multiple photos on one page without using an image editor.
[20:23] <hazzarux> !info kde | FSX
[20:24] <KM0201> !info kubuntu | FSX
[20:24] <hazzarux> !info kubuntu-desktop | FSX
[20:24] <KM0201> !info kubuntu-desktop
[20:24] <KM0201> :)
[20:24] <ohsix> FSX: ya, that's why i'm saying you should sooner look to an app that's better at printing photos
[20:24] <FSX> hazzarux: I meant the printing GUI. I know Python. Maybe it's possible to replace it?
[20:25] <FSX> ohsix: k
[20:25] <kdcisit> Hello, I am trying to connect Ekiga to an Avaya VOIP system over h323.  Ekiga won't pass the number to the Avaya system during auth.  Any ideas or alternatives for h323 connection?
[20:25] <ohsix> FSX: something that lets you arrange photos on the paper or something, that's not a job for the print dialogue proper
[20:25] <hazzarux> FSX: which printing GUI are we speaking of? GNOME's?
[20:25] <chovynz> cardamon: What are you trying to achieve?
[20:25] <FSX> hazzarux: Xubuntu
[20:25] <simisu> do i need to manually assign a swap partition? in the instalation it didn´t ask me anything about that...
[20:26] <ohsix> FSX: unfortunately the only app i know personally that does that, is picasa :\
[20:26] <cardamon> chovynz: Install the build I have on this one iso.
[20:26] <erUSUL> simisu: the installer should just create one for you
[20:26] <YankDownUnder> Swap partitions will get setup and assigned automagically.
[20:26] <FSX> ohsix: Ok, I'll probably try to make something myself then.
[20:26] <chovynz> cardamon: custom build or regular?
[20:27] <ohsix> FSX: you could install them all and let the parents pick :]
[20:27] <simisu> erUSUL so if i actually made a partition and dedicated a whole space for that... is it actually using that?
[20:27] <erUSUL> simisu: you did manual partitioning ?
[20:27] <simisu> yes
[20:27] <FSX> ohsix: hehe, they don't have time to try things. It just has to work. Can't do much about that.
[20:28] <cardamon> regular, but it's another buntu variant, so I'm not asking for support.
[20:28] <erUSUL> FSX: tried gthumb ?
[20:28] <cardamon> Hmm.
[20:28] <hazzarux> Evening, ppl. i'm gone. see y'all next time. Gotta be studying German tomorrow :D so probably tuesday :)
[20:28] <erUSUL> !info gthumb
[20:28] <hilarie> Is it just me, or does this seem like a bad idea? ---How To Use Keygen----------------
[20:28] <hilarie>   -Open a terminal and 'cd' to the directory containing the keygen
[20:28] <hilarie>   -Run: sudo chmod +x vmware-keygen_x86_64
[20:28] <hilarie>   -Run: ./vmware-keygen_x86_64
[20:28] <FSX> erUSUL: No, will try.
[20:28] <FloodBot3> hilarie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <simisu> thing is i´m finding the fresh ubuntu install much slower then the windows... could it be because it´s running from an external HDD with usb2?
[20:28] <hilarie> bleh, sorry, I thought I deleted the enter character thingies
[20:29] <YankDownUnder> gnome-photo-printer
[20:29] <cardamon> chovynz: It's a "Dell Dimension 2350 Bios version A01" for the record.
[20:29] <ohsix> FSX: shotwell and f-spot are on the shortlist, but only because i don't know of any others :D
[20:29] <hazzarux> !info vmware-keygen
[20:30] <FSX> ohsix: I tried Shotwell. Printing is a bit limited.
[20:30] <FSX> ohsix: You can only adjust the size of the image.
[20:30] <ohsix> ah, dang
[20:30] <simisu> thing is i´m finding the fresh ubuntu install much slower then the windows... could it be because it´s running from an external HDD with usb2?
[20:30] <cardamon> chovynz: Legacy USB is on in the bios.
[20:30] <chovynz> cardamon: :( no chance of flashing to something more friendly?
[20:30] <chovynz> ;)
[20:30] <erUSUL> simisu: well usb2 is certainly slower than sata/pata
[20:31] <hazzarux> !info feh | FSX
[20:31] <hazzarux> FSX: you could try this ^
[20:31] <ohsix> his parents are definitely not going to be able to use feh, even if its printing is awesome
[20:32] <hazzarux> ohsix: can be.
[20:32] <simisu> but would that make a difference in webbrowsing or more heavy stuff... if it´s like that i might have to actually install it on the computer (although all i have are about 6 gigs... not much to go with no?)
[20:32]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[20:32] <PointMan> how can I force an installation by aptitude?
[20:32] <hazzarux> !info gqview | FSX
[20:33] <aeon-ltd> PointMan: read its man pages, man apt-get, but iirc its -f
[20:33] <DasEi> PointMan: more details , force what (geneal bad idea)
[20:33] <DasEi> ?
[20:33] <Guinness2702> Everytime I restart apache I see "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 1.2.3.4 for ServerName" - can anybody tell me how I prevent/fix that?
[20:33] <PointMan> DasEi: nm
[20:33] <aeon-ltd> simisu: what would make a difference?
[20:34] <FSX> hazzarux: Thanks for the suggestions.
[20:34] <Grishnackh666> hi there
[20:34] <cardamon> chovynz: I found a liveCD I'd made the boots to GRUB for another insstall.
[20:35] <ohsix> FSX: good luck, picasa is available for linux; just not in the repos
[20:35] <mman> Guinness2702, i think you have to change an option in /etc/apache2/
[20:35] <hazzarux> !info mirage | FSX
[20:35] <FSX> ohsix: Do you perhaps know if there's a Printing API for Python in Ubuntu?
[20:35] <simisu> aeon-ltd i´m guessing if i ran ubuntu from the sata harddrive and not the external HDD it would be faster no? (not having to work through usb)
[20:35] <Grishnackh666> i have 2 NICs in my mythbuntu box, and i want to join 2 seperated networks without any routing. i thought this would be default by connecting, but my neighbor said he has access on the machines in the other network..how is this possible?
[20:35] <mman> Guinness2702, i think you have to change an option in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[20:35] <cardamon> But I can't seem to find the USB drive on it, which makes me think that this grub isn't configured for it and the bios isn't loading the usb.
[20:36] <chovynz> cardamon: sorry man im kinda running out of steam here. Without actually physically being there Ive found it hard to think through the issue I had and how i solved them. Basically, I don't really know how to do this without the usb working from boot.
[20:36] <Guinness2702> mman, yeah, but I can't figure out what - the Internet tells me to set ServerName to match my hostname, but I have virtual hosts, and I don't want anything on http://myhost/
[20:36] <simisu> i´m getting bleed on the screen and really choppy performance... i´m very dissapointed after all the hard work i put into simply installing the OS!
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> simisu: yes, read and write speeds would be much faster, but once an apllication that doesn't require much r/w, its all in the ram and thats the same
[20:37] <chovynz> cardamon:  cuz you have no burner, but you do have net, so net install is an option. (I think). Have you tried isntalling from teh HD after bootup?
[20:37] <chovynz> *installing, the
[20:37] <mman> Guinness2702, you have to do it under each vhost
[20:37] <DasEi> FSX: depends on the printer, but there are some , look at apt-cache search print | grep python
[20:37] <chovynz> cardamon: ok let me rephrase that. How important is the information on that Dell to you?
[20:37] <Guinness2702> mman, all of my vhosts have ServerName directives
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> simisu: what specification is your pc?
[20:37] <Ganymede> Guinness2702, You will have to set a vhost for the default hostname and show a blank page. otherwise, you'll have to do something IP-based and don't listen on the IP that matches your fqdn.
[20:38] <FSX> DasEi: Ok, will do that.
[20:38] <ohsix> FSX: if there is it won't be able to do what you're looking to do
[20:38] <simisu> intel celron 2.4ghz 256mb ddr sdram
[20:38] <FSX> ohsix: Why not?
[20:38] <Guinness2702> Surely apache will allow me to have *only* vhosts, and not insist that I have "myhost" as a site :\
[20:39] <Guinness2702> Ganymede, Surely apache will allow me to have *only* vhosts, and not insist that I have "myhost" as a site :\
[20:39] <simisu> although i think it actually has 500mb ddr...
[20:39] <DasEi> FSX: picking up your initial questions, as of printing guis I have good experiences with hp and cannon, else see above, need apps which provide them
[20:39] <ohsix> FSX: the print dialogue isn't the place to arrange photos and stuff, it needs to be done by the app before that
[20:39] <Ganymede> Is it normal that any 2d desktop operation (scrolling windows) is a lot slower on 3200x1080 than it is on 1280x800, even when said window is the same size?
[20:39] <mman> Guinness2702, yup, that is true, and actually i think you have to use your host, but you can redirect it to any vhost
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> simisu: then the ram's the limit, and i'm assuming integrated gpu
[20:39] <jrib> Ganymede: you might also try #httpd
[20:39] <aeon-ltd> simisu: still i'd opt in to a lighter window manager or desktop environment like xfce/lxde
[20:40] <Ganymede> Guinness2702, see what jrib said to me above
[20:40] <jrib> Ganymede: oops, sorry about that
[20:40] <FSX> ohsix: My mom just needs to be able to select a few photos in THunar and then print them (on one page or something else). I can make a GUI for that.
[20:40] <Guinness2702> Ganymede, jrib I tried #apache - nobody there
[20:40] <ohsix> FSX: i suppose, but that's something different entirely :]
[20:41] <simisu> so how come windows is running just ¨fine¨?
[20:41] <jrib> Guinness2702: #httpd, not #apache (though the topic in #apache tells you about #httpd too0
[20:41] <barbaz> Guinness2702, try #httpd to find apache users
[20:41] <Guinness2702> k, guess I should have guess that - thanks all :)
[20:41] <FSX> ohsix: Yea ^^
[20:42] <Ganymede> Guinness2702, Apache is software foundation, of which one of their software is the webserver.
[20:43] <aeon-ltd> simisu: different constraints, depending on software something can seem fast or slow, gnome is pretty fat to be honest, i mean just by viewing (no actual scientific recordings) a pentium 3 could seem faster than a i5 just by changing the software - gnome with compiz is more like vista with full effects, gnome with metacity without the effects and the performance difference for 99% of machines is insane
[20:44] <greenmanzana> Hello :D
[20:44] <simisu> aeon-ltd to be quite honest i can´t follow you...
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> greenmanzana: hi
[20:45] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background, which blinks grey occasionally. I have the upper black bar with the time, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a desktop. Can anyone help?
[20:45] <simisu> geez... i thought this wouldn´t be as hard
[20:45] <mOHawk> simisu: i was wondering what version of windows can you run with 256 mb ddr ram?
[20:46] <simisu> another whole day spent just to realize it´s a big FAIL  :o(
[20:47] <simisu> it´s windows xp
[20:47] <slashroot> how Can i open eclipse frmo user X if it was only installed on user Y?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> mOHawk, XP will run but slowlu, Xubuntu will be much faster
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> simisu: ok, lesson/philosophy, the software is almost always the problem - better written (those who aim for the least amount of lines of code for a function) software can perform better on the same system than with poorly written code. in this case its usage of software thats the problem - right now you use gnome(stock ubuntu desktop) which is heavy if you use xubuntu (different software, same core) it will seem faster
[20:47] <simisu> and i had loads of important stuff to do... mah...
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> slashroot: installed using apt or  manaually?
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> simisu: as well as be faster/lighter on your hardware
[20:47] <slashroot> manually (helios)
[20:48] <Grishnackh666> i have 2 NICs in my mythbuntu box, and i want to join 2 seperated networks without any routing. i thought this would be default by connecting, but my neighbor said he has access on the machines in the other network..how is this possible?
[20:48] <simisu> aeon-ltd so what you´re telling me is to try a different distro? name Xubunto for example?
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> slashroot: can you access her/his home directory? just browse to it and click the binary
[20:49] <mOHawk> BluesKaj: the last computer i had with 256mb ram was tandy 1000 and ran dos 3.1 or something like that lol
[20:49] <mo3r> who is here
[20:49] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: seem faster? that sounds like a guess
[20:49] <Starminn> simisu: Allow me to just say that my system came with XP Media Center (highest) and 512MB DDR2 RAM. Running UBuntu was at LEAST 4 times faster than XP. Now that I have 5GB of RAM XP is actually usable. -- IT's probably not Ubuntu, it's just the RAM.  What they're saying though is that Ubuntu has some variations on it for lighter machines. Xubuntu looks like Ubuntu but is a lot lighter/easier on the machine.
[20:49] <aeon-ltd> simisu: yes, but you don't have to reinstall, you can just remove the gnome stuff and install xubuntu packages. btw google around for other window managers/ desktop environments you might like that are light; personally i'd choose lxde
[20:49] <abstrakt> so I'm playing around with ack-grep
[20:50] <ilovefairuz> mo3r: what's your question?
[20:50] <abstrakt> really nice, it's got an option for --pager
[20:50] <abstrakt> --pager=more --pager=less
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: logically it would be faster but bugs might occur that hinder performance
[20:50] <Starminn> simisu: http://www.xubuntu.org/
[20:50] <abstrakt> ilovefairuz, he seems to be spamming everyone, I'd ignore him
[20:50] <slashroot> unfortunately its not there.
[20:50] <abstrakt> if i use --pager=less there's no colors
[20:50] <randy__> @search tech manual
[20:50] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: logic has nothing to do with guessing
[20:50] <abstrakt> if I use --pager=more
[20:50] <abstrakt> there's colors
[20:50] <abstrakt> but more seems to suck more than less
[20:50] <randy__> @seek tech manual
[20:50] <abstrakt> lol, pun intended
[20:50] <FloodBot3> abstrakt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <mo3r> hello all americans0
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: its not guessing its inferring
[20:51] <Ganymede> Speaking of pagers, I use less. I'd like the ability to search with wraparound (/ and ? apparently don't wrap around) AND so that when I jump to the next match, it places it at the center of the screen and not at the top so I can see before and after. Any ideas?
[20:51] <abstrakt> are there any yet better options for pagers than less or more
[20:51] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: unless you're arugment is ad absurdum and a computer doing nothing is objectively better, because it's appears to do nothing, very fast
[20:51] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: inferences are based on sets of evidence, a guess isn't evidence
[20:52] <barbaz> abstrakt, i cant say that it is better but you can try if "most" is good for your use cases
[20:52] <abstrakt> Ganymede, but are there other options available for pagers other than more or less
[20:52] <abstrakt> barbaz, ok i just want to know what other options there are
[20:52] <abstrakt> i don't care about good or best, i'll evaluate that for myself :)
[20:52] <Ganymede> abstrakt, Yeah, I'm open to others...I heard about "most" but i don't recall it's featureset off hand...
[20:53] <abstrakt> ahh, excellent, most is what I needed :)
[20:53] <Ganymede> abstrakt, The most pager web site leaves much to be desired.
[20:53] <abstrakt> it's weird... more *says* it will scroll backwards, but it won't
[20:54] <abstrakt> the keys are b and CTRL-B
[20:54] <justinsane> does anyone have experience reformatting hdd's?
[20:54] <justinsane> I am trying to reformat my harddrive. At the command prompt i typed "fdisk /dev/hdb" and I got Unable to open /dev/sda'
[20:54] <DasEi> abstrakt: you can pipe many things to text or html for convienient browsing
[20:54] <abstrakt> supposedly, but they don't work, I can only scroll down
[20:54] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: ok back up here. point no.1 current system software = too heavy, lighter software = lighter duh. meaning that lessening the load on the components meaning it can actually process properly without slowdowns hence its more usable and usage is much faster for the user
[20:54] <simisu> Starminn but it could also be the fact that it´s running throguh usb no?
[20:54] <abstrakt> DasEi, yes I understand but this is a tad faster and easier
[20:54] <Starminn> simisu: Oh, you mean you have'nt installed it yet?
[20:54] <abstrakt> DasEi, I do that sometimes
[20:54] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: "too heavy" sounds like an opinion, or in patently silly circumstance anyways
[20:54] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: it's not too heavy here
[20:54] <simisu> anyway guys... thanks a lot for the input... but i´ve been starving my self trying to finish up with this and no i have to go to eat...
[20:54] <DasEi> abstrakt: say lspci, so faster.. easier, sure :
[20:55] <abstrakt> oh hell yeah, most has split windows
[20:55] <abstrakt> this is leet
[20:55] <simisu> yes it´s installed
[20:55] <simisu> on an external drive
[20:55] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: but at the same time its too heavy for a 486 with 4mb of ram
[20:55] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: but there is a large gulf between here and there
[20:55] <DasEi> abstrakt: sudo lspci | lspci.txt && gedit lspci.txt
[20:55] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: its relative. but for simisu's system it is too heavy
[20:55] <Starminn> simisu: That will definitely slow it down. Remember that until you install it the only thing you're using is the speed of the external device. So on a CD it's going to run only as fast as your CD drive can read (which usually isn't very fast) and on USB it's as fast as your computer can read the flash drive.
[20:55] <abstrakt> DasEi, sudo lspci | most
[20:55] <justinsane> what is the best way to reformat my hard drive?
[20:55] <abstrakt> is a lot faster to type
[20:56] <hazzarux> justinsane: GParted for life!
[20:56] <abstrakt> anyway I'm not dealwing with lspci
[20:56] <abstrakt> like I said before I'm dealing with ack-grep
[20:56] <Starminn> simisu: It's not installed on your computer is what I'm saying so it will run about half as fast as it would if installed.
[20:56] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: simisu has other problems
[20:56] <justinsane> hazzarux: thanks
[20:56] <stephenmac7> Hello, I am having problems installing the wl driver from jockey and kpackagekit. I get the installArchives() failed error in jockey
[20:56] <abstrakt> DasEi, lspci doesn't have colored output, either
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> Starminn: it won't actually for basic applications, majority of the system loads into ram
[20:56] <abstrakt> "most" in this case is the best option and specifically suited for what I want
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: yes, sorry for steering it slightly offtopic
[20:56] <abstrakt> DasEi, I know how to redirect to a text file, that's not what I want
[20:56] <abstrakt> context
[20:56] <abstrakt> it's important
[20:57] <Starminn> aeon-ltd: Maybe my computer is the exception to the rule but on a LiveCD 80% of programs load at half the speed.
[20:57] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: i hope you realize the practical difference between xubuntu/lubuntu and the full thing is very small in actual use, chances are xubuntu/lubuntu will even be unacceptable if the whole thing is already
[20:57] <simisu> simisu has lots of problems... time being one of them... i really do appriciate all your time people, thank you and good bye!
[20:57] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper black bar with the time and open programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a...
[20:57] <abstrakt> DasEi, E from within most opens EDITOR
[20:57] <Yerushalmi> ...desktop. Can anyone help?
[20:57] <Starminn> aeon-ltd: Maybe not quite half but they run at about 60% of performance as opposed to loading it from my HDD
[20:57] <abstrakt> DasEi, by the way
[20:57] <tonycrete1991f> Hello there, I am trying to transfer files to a jailbroken iPhone from a computer running xUbuntu and ive installed libmobiledevice though my iphone does not mount
[20:57] <tonycrete1991f> any ideas?
[20:58] <aeon-ltd> Starminn: heh, not everything is loaded. also scratch space is needed for some applications and if ram is being used and a hdd is unvailable ram needs to be juggled (loaded and offloaded) to keep up
[20:58] <ohsix> Starminn: it would be weird if that were true; after they've started it should be the same for both
[20:58] <abstrakt> Starminn, put your "LiveCD" on a USB flash drive :)
[20:58] <abstrakt> Starminn, I'll never install from CD again if I can help it, USB is way faster
[20:58] <stephenmac7> This channel moved too quickly
[20:58] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, it does that
[20:58] <Starminn> abstrakt: While my BIOS has a setting to boot from USB it never is able to do it. *shrug*
[20:58] <sacc> jkd
[20:59] <stephenmac7> I cannot get an answer to my questions like that!
[20:59] <abstrakt> Starminn, ahh, bummer... get a computer that doesn't suck :P
[20:59] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, so use the forums
[20:59] <Starminn> ohsix: Eh, who knows. I probably just don't spend enough time on it for the RAM caching to take place. (if "Cache" is the right term)
[20:59] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: gnome with compiz vs xfce, is more than enough to make a difference on the system in question. but yes unless a large difference is made - e.g start from server and use a standalone window manager. savings seem minimal
[20:59] <Starminn> abstrakt: :)
[20:59] <stephenmac7> I need the answer instantly and not have to wait 4-5 years for it
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> !patience | stephenmac7
[21:00] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: compiz is faster in practical interaction than a plain noncomposited desktop
[21:00] <Ganymede> Maybe you can pay for support from Canonical.
[21:00] <tux_> is it just me or does anyone else think Empathy is REALLY awful
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: heh try telling that to a tiling window manager user with several shortcuts defined
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> tux_: thats offtopic
[21:01] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: even on an old k6-2 i had with some ati card in it, it faster than just regular metacity
[21:01] <tux_> aeon-ltd, bite me
[21:01] <abstrakt> lol @ stephenmac7
[21:01] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: that's another argument from absurdity; we're not talking about contrived scenarios here
[21:01]  * aeon-ltd takes a bite out of tux_ 
[21:01] <abstrakt> "i need an answer instantly!"
[21:01] <Gwar_Trolle> Can anyone recomend a GUI program to check CPU temps?
[21:01] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, and I need a unicorn
[21:01] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: You're leaving out tiling window managers. Try xmonad or ratpoison :)
[21:01] <tux_> aeon-ltd, do you like my rocky road lumps?
[21:01] <tonycrete1991f> Hello there, I am trying to transfer files to a jailbroken iPhone from a computer running xUbuntu and ive installed libmobiledevice though my iphone does not mount
[21:01] <stephenmac7> Don't we all :/
[21:01] <Ganymede> Gwar_Trolle, I think there's a panel applet for that.
[21:01] <xangua> !sensors | Gwar_Trolle
[21:01] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: i'm not leaving anything out, my grandmother isn't going to use xmonad or ratpoison
[21:02] <tux_> pidgin > empathy
[21:02] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: whatever. i'm gonna stop here before the idea of helping simisu gets lost
[21:02] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, point being the urgency of your problem doesn't impress anyone and really when you complain that your problem is urgent you're complaining that your time is more valuable than ours
[21:02] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, that's not a very nice thing to say
[21:02] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: simisu needs more than you can give him, he needs to obliterate a lot of things to get it to an acceptable level
[21:02] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: Why not? Mine uses Xubuntu....
[21:02] <Ganymede> *sigh* Is no one's grandmother a power user/epic programmer and Linux expert?
[21:02] <ohsix> aeon-ltd: and whats left still might not be acceptable
[21:02] <abstrakt> stephenmac7, if your time is really that valuable, then just pay someone to fix your problem... but don't ask in here for who to pay, this is not the place
[21:02] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: tiling window managers.
[21:03] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: Yeah... so what?
[21:03] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: mine uses ubuntu proper, just fine
[21:03] <ohsix> BlueBomber7: yea so you missed the entire point, nevermind
[21:03] <BlueBomber7> ohsix: K.
[21:03] <tonycrete1991f> does xubuntu mounts devices automaticaly?
[21:03] <abstrakt> tonycrete1991f, try it and see
[21:04] <mkanyicy> tonycrete1991f, it can
[21:04] <mkanyicy> tonycrete1991f, how can we help you?
[21:04] <abstrakt> tell him how to make it automount devices
[21:04] <abstrakt> I would presume
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> simisu: ok, my best suggestion if you have 1 hour, is to start from server or use a lighter distro
[21:05] <mkanyicy> abstrakt, lol
[21:06] <Aranel> why can't I see my BH-214 bluetooth headset on Bluetooth devices? My dongle works (I can connect to my N900) and BH-214 also works (I can connect to it from N900), what's wrong?
[21:07] <w1n5ton> Yo
[21:07] <w1n5ton> I need some help
[21:07] <w1n5ton> How do I mount an ecryptfs filesystem from an external hard drive?
[21:09] <kas> Hello everyone!  I was wondering if someone could offer me some guidance in troubleshooting my microphone jack issue.  I have a Dell E6400 that has a mic built into the monitor and a microphone jack.  I cannot get the jack to work.
[21:10] <Stereocaulon> is there anyone who can point me to a good explanation on  fuse and upstart? I've been using Ubuntu since 4.10 and I need to understand my system again :o)
[21:10] <uRock> kas, System> Preferences> Sound, then select the hardware you are wanting to use
[21:10] <uRock> !fuse
[21:10] <uRock> !upstart
[21:10] <w1n5ton> .ecryptfs
[21:11] <w1n5ton> !ecryptfs
[21:11] <Stereocaulon> uRock, thx for those quick pointers, should have know that they would haven been included in ubottu
[21:12] <uRock> Stereocaulon, welcome. I have no clue on the subjects, but was hoping those links might be helpful
[21:12] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper bar with the time and open programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a...
[21:12] <Yerushalmi> ...desktop. Help
[21:12] <Stereocaulon> uRock, they certainly are, thx again
[21:12] <Yerushalmi> !
[21:13] <uRock> Yerushalmi, are you using Natty?
[21:13] <mjs_> hi all
[21:14] <Yerushalmi> uRock: I'm on 10.04.
[21:14] <mjs_> 2 ??S  about maverick-amd64
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> kas, whether the mic. is builtin into your screen or not does normally not matter. It's the tangle of sound layers that are probably responsible.
[21:14] <uRock> !ask | mjs
[21:14] <Mimosita_linux> hola?
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> kas, !es | Mimosita_linux
[21:15] <Senjai> !es | Mimosita_linux
[21:15] <mjs_> well, firstly, really want to join active directory...tried both likewise and centrify
[21:15] <EmuAlert> How do you set up game controllers?
[21:15] <uRock> mjs_, samba should be able to do that
[21:16] <uRock> !samba
[21:16] <kill> join #ubuntu-cn
[21:16] <mjs_> did it once, but have long since forgotten...feel like there were some steps that i've forgotten?
[21:16] <mjs_> or possibly a firewall issue on the server side..
[21:16] <mjs_> any good start to finish guides?
[21:16] <Senjai> kill ??
[21:16] <uRock> !samba | mjs_
[21:17] <mjs_> ok, samba....that will handle not only the file sharing, but also the printer sharing?..
[21:17] <Stereocaulon> EmuAlert, what kind of controller are you trying to set up?
[21:17] <Senjai> mjs_ should
[21:17] <uRock> mjs_, it will work with active directory
[21:17] <mjs_> i would like to be joined to the domain just like as if native windows (SBS 2008, btw)..
[21:18] <uRock> !active directory
[21:18] <mjs_> thank you...i will check out the samba...
[21:18] <uRock> ubottu doesn know about that
[21:18] <Senjai> !msg the bot | uRock
[21:18] <EmuAlert> Stereocaulon, I'm using this: http://gear.ign.com/articles/637/637465p1.html, so it's basically USB
[21:19] <Stereocaulon> EmuAlert, try searching for "gamepad" in the software center, should net you at least 8 different tools for that
[21:19] <EmuAlert> Ah, thanks
[21:19] <Skyline0964256> i need some help :/
[21:19] <uRock> Senjai, I was doing for the prupose of others, not just myself
[21:19] <Senjai> !ask | Skyline0964256
[21:19] <mjs_> 2nd ?....any great invoicing/billing solutions for ubuntu...pref. $0, but not necessarily?
[21:19] <Cenezo> Why do people write an exclamation point followed by an keyword?
[21:20] <Senjai> Cenezo, It tells the bot you are talking to it
[21:20] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Have you actually looked?
[21:20] <Skyline0964256> how can i broadcast my audio with stereo mix, like i do in windows xp?
[21:20] <Cenezo> Senjai, bot?
[21:20] <Gwar_Trolle> !vm
[21:20] <Stereocaulon> EmuAlert, please pastebin the result of "lsusb"
[21:20] <Senjai> !msg the bot | Cenezo
[21:20] <Stereocaulon> !pastebin | EmuAlert
[21:20] <Gwar_Trolle> :) btw, thanks for the CPU temp applet whoever gave it to me.
[21:21] <mjs_> a while ago, but was disappointed....was just hoping to help out a friend with simple needs, and didn't want to have to resort to a spreadsheet...
[21:21] <Cenezo> Senjai, oh, now I get it. Thank you. :)
[21:21] <mjs_> i can make him one, but don't want him to have to rely on me if/when his needs change...
[21:21] <Senjai> Cenezo,  p
[21:21] <Sirgado> can't mount an 10.04 server NFS export with a 10.10 Desktop.... found bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/656889
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, NCH Express Invoice => quite good, zero cost, small, effective, great functionality.
[21:22] <Ztripez> is there anyone here who know lvm?
[21:22] <Sirgado> Does anybody knows a workaround for be able to mount NFS exports suing Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:22] <DasEi> !nfs | Sirgado
[21:22] <KBentley57> hey guys, a quick question.  Is is better to use WUBI to have ubuntu inside a windows installation, or to use virtualbox for the install?
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, There's also Quasar Accounting for linux => Canadian company. Used that before.
[21:23] <mjs_> >>>for the record....paid for vmware workstation, but had some problems when upgrading, and now using virtualbox and don't really mind not spending the $300
[21:23] <KBentley57> The reason I ask, is because once I tried this, and it broke my RAID inside windows
[21:23] <KBentley57> a while ago
[21:23] <DasEi> Sirgado: if the nfs is up already, just need an entry in fstab
[21:23] <Sirgado> DasEi: this is not a isntalling or configuring problem, this a Ubuntu 10,10 bug,
[21:23] <Sirgado> nope
[21:23] <Sirgado> with a 10.04 mounts fine
[21:23] <FIReun> Q: between installing 10.10 and now, my HD has stopped reporting SMART data, has there been any reports of changes made in the kernel or tools that trip up the smartctl tools?
[21:24] <DasEi> Sirgado: ic, no idea then
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, VMWare had it's day - but it's kinda past the "used by date" nowadays.
[21:24] <Senjai> mjs_ Are you primarily a windows user? I don't know what kind of work you do, but if its sensitive data, until your confident about linux security and user privledges, I'd stick to using windows for financials
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> Ah yes, stick to the most insecure platform for business critical and sensitive data!
[21:24] <DasEi> YankDownUnder: wrong place here, but they developed on like other projects
[21:24] <Gwar_Trolle> hey guys, I think my lm sensors is playing buggers with me, as it's registering my CPU at 17C, which I am pretty sure it isn't. Is there another way I can check short of sticking a thermomiter in there?
[21:25] <countley> i just descovrered vnc its great
[21:25] <Senjai> YankDownUnder, Yes its insecure, but linux is too, until you know how to use it
[21:25] <ohsix> YankDownUnder: it's all about what you know and what you don't
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> Learn something new after using linux for 20 years...
[21:25] <Senjai> ohsix, thank you
[21:25] <ohsix> YankDownUnder: practical insecurity in isolation is a secondary concern
[21:26] <ohsix> that's not to say he knows what' he's doing with windows already though ;]
[21:26] <YankDownUnder> I'll just have to change my current business model of the past 11 years to accord with your advice.
[21:26] <bc81> Senjai: how is linux insecure, can you explain to me plz?
[21:26] <justinsane> what do i do after i downloaded and burned and iso image to a disk?
[21:26] <Senjai> YankDownUnder, we weren't talking about you Yank, but its not just online security that needs fretting, if your unaware of user privledges on a work station, you may unwittingly allow someone access to your files
[21:26] <Senjai> bc81, see above, its not insecure, not at all, I'm saying if you don't know how to use it yet, it can be
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> justinsane: boot to it
[21:27] <DasEi> justinsane: installer cd ?
[21:27] <justinsane> oo
[21:27] <justinsane> gparted
[21:27] <ohsix> bc81: your house might be considered secure to some degree if you have doors, but less so if you don't lock them, or know about locks, or can't operate them anyways
[21:27] <justinsane> i'm trying to reformat a harddrive
[21:27] <DasEi> justinsane: same, set bios to boot from cd, pop it in
[21:27] <justinsane> so if i boot to gparted i can reformat the drive ?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: another root log-oner I guess
[21:28] <justinsane> thx
[21:28] <mjs_> i am unfortunately a windows user by circumstance, but don't worry, i would trust the accounting to linux...at work this is still windows based (MAS90)...my question was just about a friend to does glass mosaic and needs a better solution than using ms pub to create an invoice..
[21:28] <Senjai> ActionParsnip, I am not :/
[21:28] <Cenezo> How can I create a "app" for panels? Like the system monitor graphs, the fish or the eyes? I just want to show the system temperature.
[21:28] <DasEi> justinsane: yes, but is it another drive than the one you're running ubu from ?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: I meant YankDownUnder ..
[21:28] <Senjai> ActionParsnip, oh, lol i seee
[21:28] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, The NCH Express Invoice is great for simple stuff...
[21:28] <mjs_> he doesnt' need any flowthrough, just a solution that will allow him to log what he does, and then arrange and calulate for him...
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Cenezo: there is panel items which can read the values picked up by lm-sensors
[21:29] <mjs_> thank you for those suggestions, Yank....those were not some of the solutions that i remember finding before..
[21:29] <Senjai> mjs_ good luck :)\
[21:29] <DasEi> Cenezo: lil'  procedure, install lm-sensors
[21:30] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I'm always on the prowl for different resolutions for my clients...ergo, I have to always hunt...
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> campee_: http://tech-junky.com/linux/monitor-your-cpu-temperatures-in-ubuntu/
[21:30]  * murphy ÿ ñíîâà òóò!.
[21:30] <Cenezo> ActionParsnip, ok. But how du i find those "items"?
[21:30] <feyd> My MPD output is totally messed up
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Cenezo: check the link I gave
[21:31] <DasEi> Cenezo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[21:31] <Cenezo> ActionParsnip, DasEi, thanks. :)
[21:33] <Nighht> Salut
[21:33] <Nighht> Rom` :x
[21:33] <Rom`> Hello Nighht :x
[21:34] <Nighht> Personne parle oO
[21:34] <Enunio> salut
[21:34] <kyan> Hello! Occasionally no removable media will mount for me in Ubuntu 10.10. (cds, flash drives, external hdds, & cetera). Sometimes reboots will fix this, but now I have rebooted several times and nothing will mount.
[21:34] <Nighht> Ils sont 1500 mdr
[21:34] <Nighht> et personne parle x)
[21:34] <Rom`> oui lol
[21:34] <mickster04> !fr
[21:34] <kyan> Any ideas what I should do to fix that?
[21:34] <Enunio> lol
[21:34] <Rom`> sorry. :x
[21:34] <Starminn> If there is a program that only comes in Windows and Mac flavors, I would be better off using the Windows version and running it in WINE, correct?
[21:34] <Nighht> Donc merci ubottu
[21:34] <Nighht> Non*
[21:34] <mickster04> Starminn: most likely
[21:34] <Rom`> shut up Nighht :x
[21:34] <Nighht> shut up and let me go
[21:34] <Nighht> HEY
[21:34] <Nighht> :
[21:34] <Nighht> :D
[21:34] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <Rom`> speak english XD
[21:35] <Nighht> i don't speak english
[21:35] <Nighht> i only speak french :D
[21:35] <Nighht> le français c'est la plus belle langue :
[21:35] <Nighht> D
[21:35] <Rom`> >_<
[21:35] <Starminn> mickster04: I know nothing of Mac/Linux compatability, so is there really anything in Mac that will work on Linux (without a compatability layer)
[21:35] <Rom`> tu vas te faire virer Nighht
[21:35] <mickster04> Nighht: i disagree (probably)
[21:35] <kyan> Nighht: then how are you writing in English???
[21:35] <Nighht> et allors xD
[21:35] <xangua> !fr > Nighht
[21:35] <Starminn> !ot | Nighht Rom`
[21:35] <Nighht> alors*
[21:35] <mjs_> Yank:  nice....i just gave it a once over, but NCH looks pretty good for what he's looking for...
[21:35] <aeon-ltd> please don't feed trolls
[21:35] <Nighht> non ubottu
[21:35] <wl_deav> Nighht vous devez arrêter de parler autant. Clair et simple.
[21:36] <Nighht> MDR
[21:36] <mickster04> Starminn: i would recommend using the windows version thru wine, mac software will not work in linux directly, and I know of no intermediate layer like wine is for windows software
[21:36] <feyd> Where do I install GDM themes in Maverick? Is there a directory?
[21:36] <Rom`> sorry Starminn we are only visiting :x
[21:36] <Starminn> mickster04: Gotcha. (I intended on Windows version, but I had always wondered about Mac->Linux compatibility. Thanks.)
[21:36] <mickster04> Starminn: yeah, mac is based on unix
[21:36] <Starminn> Rom`: That is fine and well, bt please visit in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:37] <Rom`> okay
[21:37] <xangua> feyd: the new gdm no longer suports them
[21:37] <Nighht> on arrive en touriste
[21:37] <Nighht> :$
[21:37] <Nighht> xD
[21:37] <kyan> Occasionally no removable media will mount for me in Ubuntu 10.10. (cds, flash drives, external hdds, & cetera). Sometimes reboots will fix this, but now I have rebooted several times and nothing will mount. Any ideas? Thanks.
[21:37] <DasEi> Starminn: well there are apps with same functions, written for different os'es , but unless compiled on the hardware done binarys won't work
[21:37] <Enunio> nighht
[21:37] <Nighht> Y'a pas un channel windows
[21:37] <Nighht> ?
[21:37] <Nighht> XD
[21:37] <Nighht> :$
[21:37] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <Nighht> unbuntu j'ai pas
[21:38] <Starminn> DasEi: Thought not. Alright, awesome, thanks.
[21:38] <wl_deav> Nighht C'est très bien mais il ya des règles à ce serveur. Envoi de messages trop nombreux n'est pas autorisé. S'il vous plaît être conscient de cela et essayer de ne pas écrire autant de lignes à la fois.
[21:38] <Nighht> ubuntu
[21:38] <wildbat> hi, is there a way to have a crontab run in other time zone / UTC?
[21:38] <Nighht> je dérange personne
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> wildbat: you could just delay it by a few hours
[21:38] <feyd> xangua: ok, I see. Is there a way I can change just a few things on it? LIke a background or something?
[21:39] <DasEi> Nighht: stop that here, technical channel
[21:39] <Nighht> ?
[21:39] <wildbat> aeon-ltd: huh ??
[21:39] <rafaa> Hi I am unable to umount external drives with KDE tools (I have regular Ubuntu with Kubuntu backports) any help?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> wildbat: if you adjust the time manually then it should be ok
[21:39] <DasEi> rafaa: open a terminal..
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: what file system is the partition (you don't mount drives)
[21:40] <wl_deav> rafaa open a terminal and type umount /device
[21:40] <DasEi> rafaa: plug drive(s)
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> wildbat: but that would only apply to time zones behind yours
[21:40] <DasEi> rafaa: mount
[21:41] <rafaa> DasEi: ActionParsnip: I CAN umount (and obviously mount) with terminal.. Just can't with standard GUI
[21:41] <Starminn> wildbat: Just adjust the times to whatever time zone the host of the Crons are in
[21:41] <DasEi> rafaa: ^shows you where and which devices are mounted, which dev is to be closed ?
[21:41] <rafaa> like dolphin or the plasma notifications
[21:41] <Nighht> Ohhh
[21:41] <Nighht> wake up
[21:41] <Nighht> wake up
[21:41] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <Nighht> is party o'clock
[21:41] <Nighht> :music:
[21:41] <ridin> where do you file a bug report again?
[21:41] <hakimsheriff> Hey all
[21:41] <DasEi> !bug
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> !bug | ridin
[21:41] <rafaa> DasEi: just a second, let me try
[21:41] <ridin> ok.
[21:42] <bc81> Nighht i want to smack you around a little bit
[21:42] <gohan4748> www.yahoo.com
[21:42] <DasEi> rafaa: in gui you have to close all windows and also no cd'ed in in terminal, and the user must be allowed to do mounts
[21:43] <rafaa> DasEi: it seems that smth stays open.. I guess a gnome deamon
[21:43] <rafaa> I'm trying with CDroms, DVD, pendrive (both NTFS and ext3)
[21:43] <rafaa> DasEi: when I plug them in, both the KDE notification AND the gnome one pop up
[21:43] <Rom`> please stop that Nighht you'll be banned XD
[21:44] <Starminn> Nighht: Pour chit-chat régulièrement le canal # ubuntu-offtopic existe. Pour le français, s'il vous plaît join # ubuntu-fr.
[21:44] <mjs_> one more ?, Yank...
[21:44] <Rom`> go #ubuntu-offtopic Nighht
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Ya mate?
[21:44] <Nighht> j'm'en fout Rom`
[21:44] <Nighht> je venais juste visiter
[21:44] <Nighht> au pire si j'suis banni
[21:44] <Nighht> (Y) cool
[21:44] <FloodBot3> Nighht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <Nighht> OH MAIS TA GUEULE FloodBot3
[21:44] <Rom`> u_u
[21:44] <Nighht> purée
[21:44] <rafaa> DasEi: I thinks this is the matter.. Because then when I try to umount through Dolphin, HAL complain about another program using the device.. But actually there is no Gui nor terminal opened
[21:45] <ikonia> Nighht please stop
[21:45] <Starminn> Nighht: Nous vous demandons de bien. S'il vous plaît respecter.
[21:45] <Rom`> it's just a question of respect for the people Nighht
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: what file system is the partition?
[21:45] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: ntfs for the pendrives
[21:45] <doofy> anyone know a good piece of software for organizing media on the file system. In particular I have a lot of music and movies that I share on our local network with samba, but I want to be able to keep things organized when people add new media and want to retrieve media. Any ideas?
[21:45] <DasEi> rafaa: lsof /dev/sdXX  hsows what uses it
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: when you last took it out of a system, what steps did you take?
[21:46] <Nighht> Rom` :(
[21:46] <mjs_> since upgrading iphone to 4.2, phone won't mount...no big deal, can sync via itunes and virtual machine...i think it's a libimobiledevice issue, but the last time i effed around with that, i lost my ability to mount to the VM and use itunes...any suggestions as to where start researching the issue..?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> !rockbox | mjs_
[21:47] <Pnux> Hey.. is it possible to tell Ubuntu to always get the same internal IP? Lets say 192.168.1.10
[21:47] <mjs_> thank you...checking out rockbox now...
[21:47] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: it's not a corrupted filesystem problem, I'm sure, because it happens with all of external drives... It's sort of a lock that stays smwhere
[21:47] <rafaa> DasEi: thx for the tip
[21:47] <rafaa> let me try
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: you didn't answer the question
[21:47] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: please, repeat the answer
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using, I'd start with libimobiledevice => however, I'd also check the "driver" for USB connected devices in the VM
[21:47] <DasEi> rafaa: unclean unmount of ntfs can also cause this, see Action
[21:47] <rafaa> It's not clear to me
[21:48] <volvering> hello everyone, how to share an folder between 2 pc that use ubuntu?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: when you removed the device from the last system, what steps did you take?
[21:48] <kdcisit1> Pnux: you can set ubuntu to use static IP or you can create a reservation on your DHCP service
[21:48] <rafaa> DasEi: ActionParsnip: it actually happens just 5 min ago, when I plugged my android device for the first time...
[21:48] <maedox> volvering: right-click the dir in nautilus (file browser) and share it.
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> volvering: can use samba, or if you install openssh-server you can use sshfs
[21:49] <Pnux> kdcisit1: thanks, ill explore those 2 options
[21:49] <bc81> Pnux: i believe this is possible in network manager, to specify manual IP addresses.  but i have never done this, so also check your router and how the addresses are assigned
[21:49] <rafaa> DasEi: ActionParsnip: I think the SD is ntfs, isn't it? anyway it is virgin.. Out of the box
[21:49] <ubuntu_> co to ma byc za szajs
[21:49] <volvering> maedox, i dont know how to use nautilious.. can tell me more detailed?
[21:49] <DasEi> rafaa: sudo fdisk -l tells you
[21:49] <bc81> !pl | ubuntu_
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Pnux: right click network manager -> edit connections then select the interface, click edit, IPv4 tab, set the interface from DHCP to DHCP (address only) then specify the address
[21:50] <kdcisit1> Pnux: I have done both. pretty simple with network manager for static.  DHCP needs admin for reservation
[21:50] <volvering> ActionParsnip, in samba but how?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: is there a partition on it?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !samba | volvering
[21:50] <mjs_> sidenote....bought my first new computer in 27 years....and pretty happy with the vaio...they do make a good machine...
[21:50] <maedox> volvering: It's the default file manager in Ubuntu. Open your home folder and there it is. Just right-click a dir and click "Sharing options".
[21:51] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: DasEi: lsof /dev/sr0 (the cdrom) shows smth interesting.. There's a program called gvfsd-cdd.. Seems the gnome virtual FS daemon. Why is it here?
[21:51] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I've had a few clients pick Vaio's - they're not bad - have gone so far as to even install Mac OS on 'em (via iATKOS) - besides the usual Ubuntu installations...
[21:51] <mjs_> Yank...maverick....was using natty, but had to revert...
[21:52] <Pnux> ActionParsnip: so the field i have to "change" is the DHCP client ID, right? What about the other 2? Do i leave them blank?
[21:52] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I'm current just sticking with Maverick (on nearly all machines except for production machines)
[21:52] <wildbat> ActionParsnip: aeon-ltd, Starminn,  hmmm ~ i think i'd better work on my script a bit more , but thanks
[21:52] <mjs_> mac eh...plug and play, plug and pray, or &^%$##!...?
[21:52] <volvering> maedox, ok on my pc i shared the "dowloads" folder , now how to acces it on the other pc?
[21:52] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: a partition on what? on the SD card?
[21:53] <mjs_> i was worried about the i7, but seems to be working fine...
[21:53] <maedox> volvering: click on Network and your computer should be there
[21:53] <r0z4> hi everybody, i have backup from ubuntu 9.10 now i have installed my backup but dont recogniize my swap, what can i do
[21:53] <DasEi> rafaa: that has nothing to do with your drive-issue
[21:53] <gohan4748> #fun
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Only issue was on one, fan control...otherwise, s'all good.
[21:54] <mjs_> on the vaio, you mean?
[21:54] <rafaa> DasEi: oh ok now I'm trying with a new pendrive
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Ya mate.
[21:54] <mjs_> fan control tweaked through the BIOS?
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, It was a headache, but yeah, ended up using BIOS instead of banging my head against a wall (cuz I was tired and just frustrated)
[21:55] <volvering> maedox, it s not there the folder or the pc
[21:55] <mjs_> i feel ya...you know macs too?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: yes, it's new so may not be partitioned
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Yes - I deal with Mac machines as well.
[21:56] <KBentley57> hey guys, I'm still trying to figure out an rsync issue, not sure where to turn.  Anyone used the rsync feature built into freenas?
[21:56] <crazyman> hi people :) i have trouble with makefile :(. Anybody help ?
[21:56] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: I am not sure, but Dolphin can browse it, so there must be a filesytem... right?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: i'd boot to live cd and make sure the swap is there and valid, if necessary, recreate it. You may need to change the UID in /etc/fstab for it if the value is different
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: indeed
[21:57] <DasEi> KBentley57: ask in #linux
[21:57] <r0z4> ActionParsnip yes it is
[21:57] <r0z4> ActionParsnip i dont know how to obtain it
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: and is the blkid the same in fstab?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: sudo blkid    will give the IDs of all available partitions
[21:58] <mjs_> new to them myself...while the interface is well refined, i found the bsdlike CLI to be cumbersome compared to other unix/linux distros, plus i resent the marketing when it comes to altering hardware/disassembly to force the end user to take it in to the shop...
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: you can then run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   and make sure the value is identical
[21:58] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: now I have plugged a pendrive (ntfs) and nautilus popped up... WHY THE HELL??? The KDE notifier correctly opens Dolphin if I click "Open with file manager" but Nautilus popped out anyway, without asking permission..
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> rafaa: mixing DEs isn't 100% smooth dude
[21:59] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, :) => I always find a means by which to bypass getting the hardware into the shop - heaps of ways of dealing with it - it also helps to have a wholesaler in your pocket...
[21:59] <mjs_> worked on their notorius slot drive, and they not only removed the manual eject mechanism, but obviously altered the cpu/monitor design to make it more proprietary...
[21:59] <mjs_> found myself a little bit p*ssed off about that...
[21:59] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: hmmm I see.. but I love Ubuntu.. and I love KDE :/ and I'm not very happy with Kubuntu.. anyway, there must be a way! C'mon!! it's 2011 :D
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Exactly...however, digging will reveal enough "DIY" "how-to's" => just have to dig and dig...
[22:00] <kdcisit1> Any ideas on debugging ekiga to avaya connection via h323?
[22:00] <r0z4> ActionParsnip bklind give a uuid diferent of fstab, i edit fstab?
[22:01] <mjs_> i agree, and we're past that now...but first i had to buy some special suction cups, on accounta my local hardware shop didn't have any glass working tools
[22:01] <mjs_> ...
[22:01] <Wartoghex> hi all i was usde my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do?
[22:01] <rafaa> ActionParsnip: DasEi: if I try umounting thru Dolphin HAL says it can't because it didn't mount the volume itself...
[22:01] <droidftw> i cant seem to find my hp printer even using their printer setup software. Any help?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: yes so it matches
[22:02] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Hehehehehehehe....yes yes yes...been there done that - actually found a glass replacement shop that was happy to sell me the handles cheaply - in trade for some "work"
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> r0z4: if the UID doesn't match, then it won't get used
[22:02] <Trishpiot> hi guys
[22:02] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:02] <DasEi> rafaa: hal ? udev.. just right-click > unmount
[22:02] <NinjaJeff> what's a Windows client for accessing ftp over ssh?
[22:03] <DasEi> NinjaJeff: putty
[22:03] <r0z4> ActionParsnip, ok, thanks im going to restart for get the results,
[22:03] <NinjaJeff> putty does that?
[22:03] <rafaa> DasEi: no.. KDE seems to rely on HAL.. The error message says "Device is not in HAL-mtab"
[22:03] <kdcisit1> NinjaJeff: try filezilla
[22:03] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:03] <hp00pr> good afternoon, please help this is driving me nuts... i know how to use google.. i got my wireless device (eth1) broadcom 4312chip  to activate via the STA driver  I can list wireless networks and the light on my laptop is on but I cannot connect..
[22:03] <mjs_> Yank, I regret that I have to go...i don't say this about a lot of folk, including myself, but appreciate the knowledge, advice, and humor...tempted to give you my personal links, just to stay in touch..
[22:04] <kdcisit1> Wartoghex: have you restarted the networking or OS?
[22:04] <DasEi> rafaa: the mtab is there, but Hal doesn't handle automount
[22:04] <zort> buenas,algun español¿?
[22:04] <DasEi> !es
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, I'm always around mate...feel free
[22:04] <Wartoghex> kdcisit1: yep i've restarted everything
[22:04] <Cradam> anyone know how to mute the speakers from bios?
[22:04] <Cradam> !ja
[22:04] <rafaa> DasEi: I think HAL has a separated mtab
[22:04] <zort> 26031989
[22:04] <mjs_> too cool...i'm sure i'll have further ?s, on accounta i aint that bright...
[22:04] <DasEi> Cradam: you can look for an option to disable the soundchip
[22:05] <mjs_> thanks again, and enjoy...yank expat from where, orig?
[22:05] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:05] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Coolbeans - on that note, I'm going to get back to work....and Detroit...mostly...
[22:05] <mjs_> oooh....sorry about that...no wonder you moved away...
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> mjs_, Hehehehehe...yeah...Cya!
[22:07] <hp00pr> no one here has a broadcom 43xx chip with ubuntu ?
[22:07] <hp00pr> and wireless problems ?
[22:07] <Dougwiser> yes
[22:07] <hp00pr> can u help ?
[22:07] <Dougwiser> and I been beating my head on the desk over it
[22:07] <hp00pr> me too
[22:08] <Wartoghex> i was use my wireless card to connect wireless network but now i cant show wireless networks what i need to do? any suggestion?
[22:08] <hp00pr> ive got mine to work, but i cant connect to any networks
[22:08] <Dougwiser> I have a HP zv5200 with that wireless adapter
[22:08] <nowimproved> What do you guys think is the best free cpanel alternative?
[22:08] <adamruffolo> hp00pr did you try manually starting the network service from the command line
[22:08] <hp00pr> i rebooted
[22:09] <adamruffolo> hp00pr: I track.  Did you try typing in console "/etc/init.d/networking start" or "/etc/init.d/wicd start"?
[22:09] <aguitel> how to know ubuntu version installed ?
[22:10] <hp00pr> no, i have to copy it down b/c its on another partition :(
[22:10] <kdcisit1> Anyone, ekiga h323 connection to Avaya IP office system?
[22:10] <hp00pr> ill try it
[22:10] <rumpe1> aguitel, lsb_release -a
[22:10] <adamruffolo> Dougwiser: What problem are you having exactly?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Wartoghex: if you run: sudo iwlist scan   do you see access points?
[22:11] <Dougwiser> well I been trying to get it to work i found some stuff on the unbuntu support site for previous version the bcm43 and the bcm43 legacy drivers load but do not recognixe
[22:11] <Dougwiser> I also tried the ndiswrapper no luck
[22:12] <Dougwiser> I was already looking for usb adapter that linux actually supports
[22:12] <travlingeek> hello alll and here my problem i be on dialup and i wanted to share my windows dialup connection with ubuntu  and i already set up ubuntu that is version 10.04 and the network iis set up it already sees the shared windows folder and i can connect to ubuntu via remote desktop so that i know my network card work no problem and the only problem is i dont have acess to the internet so i need help geting on the internet if it would be
[22:12] <adamruffolo> Dougwiser: Tracking.   You have a USB Wifi?
[22:13] <mamece2> hello, could someone help me_
[22:13] <mamece2> ?
[22:13] <doofy> anyone know of a program that will move music in a given folder in to another folder organized by ./artist/album/song.extension by id3 tags? Everything I've seen requires you to use the gui and I need to automate this
[22:13] <adamruffolo> mamec2: what's the question?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Dougwiser: have you tried using a wired connection to get full updates
[22:13] <Dougwiser> well no the BCM43xx is not usb but I have a WUSB54g adapter from cisco i'm not having any luck with either
[22:14] <mamece2> i need to make a backup, im booting ubuntu 64 bit and i need to save my old HOME folder, i cant copy cuz i have no permission, how can i grant permission?
[22:14] <pierinolapeste> ciao raga
[22:14] <mkanyicy> doofy, you can write your own bash script for that
[22:14] <rumpe1> mamece2, boot with liveCD (or any other linux...)
[22:14] <DasEi> mamece2: from one box to another or to an external drive ?
[22:14] <mamece2> dasei to an external drive
[22:15] <DasEi> mamece2: open terminal..
[22:15] <Dougwiser> ActionParsnip: no I may have to try it though
[22:15] <mamece2> dasei
[22:15] <DasEi> mamece2: sudo fdisk -l
[22:15] <rumpe1> mamece2, ah... no write permissions to external drive?
[22:15] <doofy> mkanyicy, I think Im just going to, maybe python. I was hoping there was already something out there
[22:15] <kdcisit1> mamece2: use sudo
[22:15] <mamece2> sudo su?
[22:15] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:15] <Bet> -cn
[22:16] <kdcisit1> mamece2 sudo cp -are in terminal
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Dougwiser: updates fix a lot of stuff, you can also use the hardware driver app under system -> admin to maybe give the driver you need
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: get clear with the devices and mountpoints
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: use: sudo -i   instead
[22:16] <mamece2> im getting confused
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: no wonder
[22:16] <mkanyicy> doofy, it doesn't have to be python, you can rely on may tools like id3, id3v2, eyeD3, mid3v2
[22:16] <berefeira> anyone use miredo?
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: sudo fdisk -l
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:16] <mamece2> dasei couldnt i copy and paste from the GUI?
[22:16] <DasEi> mamece2: get clear with the devices and mountpoints
[22:17] <wooter>  /ns identify !die!
[22:17] <Dougwiser> ok ActionParsnip, at least I have not tried that yet bbl
[22:17] <DasEi> mamece2: which is the external, where is it mounted ?
[22:17] <adamruffolo> maece2: Hook up direct dialog window with DasEi, otherwise you are just going to get confused
[22:18] <wooter> gotta love that
[22:18] <doofy> mkanyicy, should be easy enough. Thanks
[22:18] <mamece2> dasei i need to copy a folder from this laptop to the ext drive
[22:18] <DasEi> mamece2: I got it
[22:18] <mkanyicy> doofy, good luck
[22:18] <DasEi> mamece2: which is the external, where is it mounted ?
[22:19] <mamece2> the external is called /dev/sdd
[22:19] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:19] <DasEi> mamece2: where (if so ) is /dev/sdd1 mounted ?
[22:20] <mkanyicy>  mamece2: DasEi: you can do a 'df -h | grep sdd'
[22:20] <mrgarak> Testing
[22:20] <mamece2> dasei im not very fond of the mount concept
[22:20] <mkanyicy> lol, mamece2
[22:20] <DasEi> mamece2: mount  with no args shows you all mounted partis with their dirs, is sdd1 mounted ?
[22:20] <mamece2> dasei sorry!
[22:21] <adamruffolo> mamece2: DasEi: mamece2 check out this website: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184088
[22:21] <krillin> www.goog
[22:21] <adamruffolo> DasEi: Sorry for putting that there.  I think it's getting way to confusing to try to walk mamece2 through it in the chat room.
[22:22] <mamece2> sudo nautilus :S
[22:22] <gohan4748> www.google.com
[22:22] <DasEi> mamece2: can do, but why not just learning it a little ?
[22:22] <mamece2> the forum is confusing
[22:23] <DasEi> mamece2: getting by now ? just 2 more steps else
[22:24] <oneliner> i am trying to share files between my ubuntu machine and a vm with win xp in it,.. i thought i d smb a folder but the xp machine aint seeing it, am i missing something or should i try another way?
[22:24] <mamece2> dasei i think i answered correctly when i said external drive is mounted in /dev/sdd/
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: samba will allow you to share folders easily between the OSes
[22:25] <DasEi> mamece2: /dev/sdd is the drive, which mounts to a mountdir
[22:25] <DasEi> mount  tells you
[22:25] <viator> set permissions on the  shared folder
[22:25] <viator> properly
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: can the XP system ping the ubuntu PC?
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[22:26] <FloodBot3> genuinehelper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <mkanyicy> mamece2, what DasEi asks you to do is to type 'mount' in terminal and then pastebin that
[22:26] <gohan4748> www.google.com
[22:26] <mamece2> dasei sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt resolves the /dev/sdd is already mounted
[22:26] <DasEi> mamece2: what are you doing ??
[22:27] <mamece2> dasei sudo mount /dev/sdd /mnt
[22:27] <mkanyicy> mamece2, type 'mount' and copy and paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:27] <DasEi> mamece2: please follow my advise
[22:27] <DasEi> mamece2: mount
[22:28] <DasEi> is /dev/sd.. mounted or not ?
[22:28] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: yes it can
[22:28] <oneliner> i didint try pointing to the actual ip, will try that
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: try mapping a network drive too, this can help
[22:29] <mamece2> dasei http://paste.ubuntu.com/569828/
[22:30] <DasEi> mamece2: so /media/OneTouch4 is the searched dir
[22:30] <mamece2> dasei /dev/sdd1 on /media/OneTouch4 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions)
[22:30] <mamece2> foudn it!
[22:30] <DasEi> mamece2: got it
[22:30] <mamece2> dasei the problem is default permission
[22:31] <DasEi> mamece2:sudo chown -R $USER /media/OneTouch4  &&  rsync -Pr /home /media/OneTouch4
[22:32] <DasEi> mamece2: there you are
[22:32] <mamece2> dasei would work this . chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder
[22:32] <DasEi> mamece2: not in that way, yes other ways are possible, too
[22:33] <mamece2> dasei what would do the commands u sent me_
[22:33] <DasEi> mamece2: first half own the mountdir to rgular user, second resumable copy with subfolders and progress, advanced algo
[22:34] <DasEi> man chown, man rsync
[22:34] <mamece2> dasei could u help me to change the permission so i can copy pasta the folder i want into the external drive?
[22:35] <DasEi> mamece2: the first part of the cmd does it, but home likes to be large, so a faster algo then cp and the possibility to resume and a progress is nice
[22:36] <DasEi> mamece2:sudo chown -R $USER /media/OneTouch4
[22:36] <mamece2> -R for recursive
[22:36] <DasEi> mamece2:after that could, but cp.. what you see and what you get, the terminal solution is better
[22:36] <DasEi> mamece2: recursiv, yes
[22:37] <DasEi> mamece2:sudo chown -R $USER /media/OneTouch4  &&  rsync -Pr /home /media/OneTouch4
[22:37] <oneliner> ok so i could map to a folder from (vm)windows but its saying access denied, its samba who should hace a user right? or the os?
[22:37] <mkanyicy> DasEi, mamece2 what is the type of the filesystem? ntfs/fat32?
[22:38] <mamece2> i guess is fat32
[22:38] <mkanyicy> mamece2, can you paste here the output of 'sudo blkid | grep sdd' ?
[22:39] <mkanyicy> mamece2, DasEi, if the filesystem is fat32 or ntfs, neither chown nor chmod will work
[22:39] <mamece2> mkanyicy type ntfs
[22:40] <mkanyicy> mamece2, then you have to mount it so that it gives you permissions, you cannot set permissions
[22:40] <mamece2> i think is already mounted
[22:40] <mkanyicy> mamece2, you can unmount it and remount it correctly
[22:41] <mkanyicy> mamece2, if you do not like that, work as 'root' using 'sudo'
[22:41] <DasEi> mkanyicy: you're confusing
[22:41] <mkanyicy> DasEi, what do you mean?
[22:41] <DasEi> mkanyicy: the mountdir has permissions
[22:41] <mkanyicy> DasEi, you cannot chown or chmod an ntfs filesystem
[22:42] <mkanyicy> DasEi, i know
[22:42] <gohan4748> #fun
[22:42] <mkanyicy> DasEi, they are created at mount time and cannot be changed
[22:43] <DasEi> mamece2:tried to copy something meanwhile ?
[22:43] <exutux> DasEi: mkanyicy saids right
[22:44] <exutux> NTFS doesn't use UNIX perms
[22:44] <kdcisit1> anyone know of a good client to connect VOIP to an Avaya IP Office system?
[22:44] <DasEi> exutux: but the mountdir uses them, as in fat32
[22:45] <exutux> DasEi: it doesn't too, it mounting with default permissions for FAT or NTFS
[22:45] <DasEi> mamece2: did the copy either graphical or termial succeed ?
[22:45] <naamio_mies> Greetings. I installed Ubuntu around the start of the month, ever since it had been slow, especially in aspects of flash and I cannot listen to high quality music even with the pre-packaged software. I know Ubuntu and flash aren't a happy couple, but for the most part, I'm guessing this is a graphics driver thing and I plan on optimizing for flash after I get this settled. Additional Drivers utility detects nothing, I have an ATI R
[22:46] <naamio_mies> propriety driver It's using due to it not being freeware or something along those lines. Any help?
[22:46] <exutux> DasEi: it can use and copy normally NTFS or FAT for copy paste too, but not needs to change permission
[22:46] <naamio_mies> Oh and I'm on Ubuntu 10.10
[22:46] <oneliner> i dont get this, smbpasswd is failing to add user entry
[22:47] <mkanyicy> oneliner, what are you trying to achieve?
[22:47] <DasEi> mamece2: ?
[22:47] <naamio_mies> I see tones of people with this same problem, even on far older versions and they have done numerous things that have helped.
[22:48] <oneliner> mkanyicy: share a folder from the host ubuntu to the vm win xp, so far vm can map the resource but gets user denials
[22:48] <oneliner> i though smb might need its own guest user
[22:48] <the> hello guise
[22:48] <oneliner> vm xp should be read only anyways
[22:49] <mkanyicy> oneliner, do you have samba server installed?
[22:49] <oneliner> yes
[22:50] <mkanyicy> oneliner, pastebin the portion of smb.conf corresponding to your share
[22:50] <mkanyicy> oneliner, or else pastebin your whole smb.conf
[22:52] <naamio_mies> Does anybody know if they could help me out, or possibly point me in the right direction? I've been through a lot of archived forums and nothing seems to have helped.
[22:52] <jrib> !helpme | naamio_mies
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: if you run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     in ubuntu, you can create a samba password they can authenticate as. You can then make the accessing OS remember the password
[22:53] <alesan> hi, when I type a command that doesn't exist (typo) I get a list of possible candidates to install with apt-get
[22:53] <jrib> alesan: true
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> alesan: yes
[22:53] <alesan> how can I disable such function?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> !info command-not-found
[22:53]  * jrib eyes ActionParsnip
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> alesan: remove that package ;)
[22:54] <jrib> alesan: uninstall command-not-found
[22:54] <alesan> it "stalls" for few seconds and the hard drive works like crazy
[22:54] <alesan> ok
[22:54] <alesan> apt-remove command-not-found ?
[22:54] <jrib> !apt | alesan
[22:54] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: thats where i say its failing right now with the following repply: Failed to add entry for user sambapati.
[22:54] <jrib> alesan: use synaptic if you're not comfortable using apt-get
[22:55] <DasEi> alesan: sudo apt-get remove ...
[22:55] <medel> hi
[22:55] <RaNa> hi guys look for a open source file sharing witch can keep a copy of files thats been modified or deleted i hope this makes sense
[22:55] <alesan> why a command called "apt-GET" is used to "remove" things :)
[22:55] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Thursday night I ran an update, and Friday morning upon turning on the computer I find I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper bar with the time and open programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open programs, but I don't have a...
[22:55] <Yerushalmi> ...desktop. Help
[22:55] <Yerushalmi> !
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: did you prefix the command with sudo?
[22:55] <noob> can somebody help me upgrade? i get this weird error msg
[22:56] <bc81> alesan: can be interpreted as apt-get-the-hell-off-my-computer :-)
[22:56] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:56] <jrib> !details | noob
[22:56] <alesan> ActionParsnip, jrib now I have removed it and when I type a command that is not found in the PATH I get a /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__.py' in '/usr/share/command-not-found'
[22:56] <jrib> alesan: open a new terminal
[22:57]  * 13WAA6LW9 ñêîðî áóäó: Gone away for now
[22:57] <noob> i have a screen shot of the msg
[22:57] <alesan> well I already have 9 terminals open with all the things I need
[22:57] <jrib> !away > 13WAA6LW9
[22:57] <alesan> I guess this will have to wait until the next reboot
[22:57] <jrib> alesan: why?  just open a new terminal
[22:57] <alesan> because I need to work in those where I have some history, an environement etc
[22:58] <jrib> noob: telling us you have one isn't exactly useful, show it to us
[22:58] <GanjaReefer> installed a debian amd64 package because it was the only way to get it (mencoder-mt it says its installed, but no executeale can be found... locate mencoder-mt returns nothing. followed a guide...
[22:58] <alesan> to re-set that it would take several minutes
[22:58] <bc81> alesan: check out terminator package
[22:58] <noob> is it possible to post pics?
[22:58] <naamio_mies> Paste the link.
[22:58] <noob> im a freaking noob so i dont know
[22:58] <alesan> bc81, what does it do?
[22:58] <jrib> noob: it would be better if you just copy the text and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:58] <bc81> !info terminator | alesan
[22:59] <alesan> bc81, oh ok
[22:59] <alesan> thanks guys!
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> GanjaReefer, FYI, locate uses a database that is updated once a day, so using find might give different results.  Also, not the best idea to install Debian debs on an Ubuntu system (but I've done it before as well)
[23:00] <naamio_mies> noob, when did you start getting this error message; was it after some action or update ect?
[23:00] <iver> after testing my raid configuration i'm greeted with a grub-rescue prompt. ls (md0)/ prints the filesystem but ls (md0)/boot doesnt show a thing. does anyone have any experience with this?
[23:00] <noob> during the update
[23:00] <ubuntu_> ytr
[23:00] <ubuntu_> eeeeeeeeee
[23:00] <noob> ill paste the text of the error msg
[23:01] <iver> from the livecd i can see all the files in /boot
[23:01] <jrib> noob: don't paste it here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:01] <noob> ok
[23:01] <GanjaReefer> ZykoticK9, wow ur right I think it is actually installed
[23:01] <ahaziah77> can someone help me out with vlc player, i can stream url? it tells me to chekc the logs but i cant locate them
[23:01] <ahaziah77> cant stream*
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: you can list your samba users with: sudo pdbedit -Lw
[23:02] <noob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569844/
[23:02] <GanjaReefer> ZykoticK9, whats a better way to search for a file ls -l | grep ?
[23:02] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: repply is nobody and install user
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> GanjaReefer, "find / -iname mencoder-mt 2>/dev/null" should work
[23:03] <noob> thats the error msg i get when i try to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10
[23:03] <ahaziah77> ????
[23:03] <jrib> GanjaReefer: just do « dpkg -L mencoder-mt | grep bin »
[23:03] <terry> ahaziah77: Try gxine
[23:03] <ahaziah77> terry, whats that?
[23:04] <ahaziah77> nevermind, looked it up, just another media player
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: so you have the samba user. YOou can set the pass again with: sudo sudo smbpasswd -L -a username
[23:05] <oneliner> samba user != install user, install user is the name i chose for sudoer
[23:05] <LinuxGuy2009> Are there any apps that can copy my iPod tracks to my PC and keep them organized in artist/album folders so they are not all thrown into one big mess?
[23:05] <JP> alguém de são paulo?
[23:05] <terry> ahaziah77: Xine is a free multimedia player.  It plays back CDs, DVDs, and VCDs, multimedia files, and multimedia streamed over a network.
[23:06] <jrib> !who | noob
[23:06] <oneliner> and since the access is read only, and local, id rather just drop password for samba
[23:06] <ahaziah77> terry, yeah, i looked it up, thanks
[23:06] <bc81> LinuxGuy2009: i believe rythmbox has this function built in, when you import a folder to your library
[23:06] <bc81> LinuxGuy2009: let me be sure..
[23:07] <JP> boa noite!
[23:07] <jrib> noob: what is the output of: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[23:07] <bc81> LinuxGuy2009: yes, in the preferences, you can make a library structure
[23:07] <LinuxGuy2009> bc81: Ok Ill try that then. Thank you.
[23:07] <noob> jrib: what?
[23:07] <bc81> sure xD]
[23:07] <jrib> noob: open a terminal and type that command, then tell me the output
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: yes, but you still need one to authenticate as if you are having issues.
[23:09] <oneliner> ActionParsnip: so far sudo smbpasswd -a someusername fails
[23:10] <LinuxGuy2009> bc81: I see the options for the artist/album but how do I use it to actually import them back in to my machine?
[23:10] <LinuxGuy2009> bc81: Oh NM I got it. Thanks a bunch!
[23:10] <noob> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/569845/ output is here
[23:10] <feyd> I'm having major issues with MPD devices / alsa output, can anyone lend a hand?
[23:11] <oneliner> how bout i try giving the vm the same user pass combo as the install user?
[23:11] <ahaziah77> terry, when i try gxine, it downloads fine and everything for me but then i cant find it
[23:11] <jrib> noob: remove that package and try your upgrade again.  You can read about the relevant bug if you are interested: /msg ubottu upgrade  (the bug report is linked to at the bottom of the 10.04 → 10.10 page)
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> oneliner: not sure then, very strange indeed. Could ask in #samba too
[23:14] <EmuAlert> In most hidden configuration files, pound space makes that line a comment, right?
[23:14] <ahaziah77> terry, do i have to do anything more after download, it shows in /usr/bin but usually when i download through syntaptic it is ready to run
[23:14] <Starminn> Any packages out there to allow one to view an iPod touch? I pop it in and it won't let me view it.
[23:14] <jrib> EmuAlert: "most", sure, I guess, maybe.
[23:14] <ahaziah77> terry, tried it through the software center too
[23:14] <bc81> EmuAlert: dont think you even need the space
[23:15] <Starminn> EmuAlert: Right, though as bc81 said the space is usually unnecessary.
[23:15] <GanjaReefer> after 2 hours finally got all four cores of my i3 working :-)
[23:15] <jrib> EmuAlert: you really should just ask about the particular file in question
[23:15] <EmuAlert> Doesn't #! mean something, though? Though I guess I won't be starting many sentences with an exclamation point
[23:15] <GanjaReefer> with mencoder that is.
[23:16] <jrib> EmuAlert: only at the beginning of the file
[23:16] <exutux> oneliner: do you have add someuser on your sistem??
[23:16] <Starminn> EmuAlert: The shebang. ;) It tells it where to find the language you're coding it (basically)
[23:16] <shentino> it's the shell script interpreter escape
[23:16] <EmuAlert> Ah
[23:16] <talaskina> anyone particularly good with raids?
[23:16] <jrasmussen> hi
[23:16] <oneliner> exutux: no
[23:16] <jrib> !anyone | talaskina
[23:16] <exutux> oneliner: you must do it before
[23:16] <jrasmussen> do I want to encypt my home directory?
[23:17] <jrib> jrasmussen: up to you
[23:17] <jrasmussen> jrib: what are the pros and cons?
[23:17] <oneliner> right,.. sudo useradd ?
[23:17] <exutux> oneliner: adduser
[23:17] <bc81> jrasmussen: if on a laptop with data you care about: yes, i would
[23:17] <jrasmussen> on a tower and stationary
[23:17] <paq7512> is there a keyboard shortcut to close a running program?
[23:18] <jrib> jrasmussen: pro: it's encrypted so only someone with the decryption key can read it  con: performance penalty; you lose the key, you lose your data
[23:18] <Starminn> jrasmussen: Unless it's sensitive data then there's no need
[23:18] <jrasmussen> thx
[23:18] <jrasmussen> I think right now, no need!
[23:18] <bc81> paq7512: Alt+F4 to close applications (mostly)
[23:20] <EmuAlert> Is there any command to toggle capslock? I set my capslock button to mod4, but still have a need of talking in ALL CAPS.
[23:21] <ecinx3> how do i switch the close minimize restore buttons from the top left to the top right?
[23:21] <jrib> !controls | ecinx3
[23:21] <ecinx3> ty jrib
[23:22] <bc81> ecinx3: "gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[23:23] <bc81> EmuAlert: some CapsLock options are in System >> Preferences >> Keyboard )) Layouts )) Options..
[23:23] <jcollierdavis> i just started using icewm on my laptop and the screen seems really dim, how do i adjust the brightness?
[23:24] <Niglop> how can I test my hardware? I feel like its running slow
[23:24] <ecinx3> Our intent is to encourage innovation, discussion, and design with the right of the window title bar ,,, << that's the weirdest thing i've read in a while
[23:25] <bc81> Niglop: System >> Administration >> System Testing
[23:25] <ylmfos> 我操，没中国人
[23:25] <bc81> !cn | ylmfos
[23:25] <Guest38574> heyyy
[23:26] <ylmfos> 不会英语
[23:26] <mamece2> dudddeeeeee IT WORKED
[23:26] <adamruffolo> mamece2.   Hot!  Can you transfer the files now?
[23:26] <mamece2> yes! excellent, u  r pro
[23:27] <mamece2> but i dont know why it didnt worked in the main session?
[23:27] <ecinx3> in kubuntu, I click on the launcher, start button and type the name, or start to type the name of an application
[23:27] <ecinx3> is there a similar feature in ubuntu.. I go crazy looking for applications through all the menus
[23:27] <ardchoille> ecinx3: alt+f2
[23:27] <oneliner> #samba, what a nice peaceful and quiet channel :-/
[23:28] <kdcisit1> oneliner: can you go the other way? ubuntu to windows?
[23:28] <ecinx3> how can I make an icon of alt f2 to put on top?
[23:28] <danub> hey all. trying to install vmware tools on my ubuntu vm. it cant find the directory containing the C header files that match my kernel. where are they located?
[23:28] <oneliner> kdcisit1: how exactly?
[23:29] <kdcisit1> danub: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:29] <oneliner> sharing a folder on the win see if the host can read it?
[23:29] <kdcisit1> yes kinda
[23:29] <kdcisit1> smb://windows/c$
[23:29] <exutux> ecinx3: isn't easiest  alt+f2 combination key than click on launcher ?? :/
[23:30] <jquiterio> hi
[23:30] <ecinx3> it's uncomfortable for me to be honest.
[23:30] <kdcisit1> oneliner: you can then access the C drive with the local windows user
[23:30] <Dougwiser> ActionParsnip: 406 meg of updates and still not seeing the bcm43xx wireless adapter
[23:30] <ecinx3> in my laptop i can use the mouse without leaving the homerows. i can even trouch the screen to execute a click
[23:30] <danub> kdcisit1: already have that installed
[23:30] <danub> didn't fix my issue though
[23:30] <kdcisit1> danub: run the install.py with sudo?
[23:31] <danub> kdcisit1: running as root
[23:31] <exutux> ecinx3: and isn't the same to click on the application? or for you you is more confortable click and type program name?
[23:31] <jquiterio> i have ubuntu 10.10 with kernel 2.6.35-2, and have virtualbox 4.04... i was installed ubuntu 8.04.4 on my vbox.... machine still stack on boot after pass grub.... some body can help me ?
[23:31] <ylmfos> name
[23:32] <oneliner> kdcisit1: ok that was just confusing
[23:32] <ecinx3> exutux, ony if i know where it was, I type pretty fast though.. but Modifier keys are very uncomfortable
[23:32] <zamba> is it possible to lock the Documents path for a set of users?
[23:32] <ecinx3> is there a vnc client that will be have realtime-ish in a lan?
[23:32] <ardchoille> What's the command line to bring up the alt+f2 run dialog? ecinx3 is wanting to make a panel icon shortcut for it
[23:33] <lj_> What up my people!
[23:34] <ecinx3> ^^ ardchoille , yes
[23:34] <bc81> ecinx3: check out gnome-main-menu,similar to KDE menu system
[23:34] <ardchoille> ecinx3: yeah, I know what you're tying to do but I don't know the command line for it. Hopefully someone else does
[23:35] <bc81> ecinx3: a faster VNC client is tightvnc
[23:35] <jquiterio> km jtçwavgjszj<aw
[23:35] <lj_> Any1 know what the best channel to find Backtrack support is?
[23:35] <comeback89> hey guys wonder if you could help, I'm having trouble connecting through ssh to my ubuntu server
[23:36] <rumpe1> lj_, /msg alis list #backt*
[23:36] <noob> jrib: i dont really understand? remove the package, it looks like i would be removing a lot?
[23:36] <comeback89> first time using ubuntu server, no gui. ive set up LAMP, but cant seem to connect remotly using SSH on a local network
[23:36] <adamruffolo> lj_: Did you try "/join #backtrack-linux   ?
[23:36] <lj_> thanks adamruffolo!
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> comeback89, Possibly the server is setup for DHCP and you'll have to find the IP address in order to connect?
[23:37] <ecinx3> ardchoille, bc81  got half of it.. the main menu allows me to ad stuff in the panel
[23:37] <MegaR> installed a ssh server?
[23:37] <exutux> comeback89: do you have installed openssh-server?
[23:37] <ardchoille> ecinx3: Ah, nice
[23:37] <bc81> ecinx3: you can add to panel "Run Application"
[23:37] <comeback89> yes ive installed open-shh server , and i have the local ip 192.168...
[23:37] <comeback89> i can view the "it works" page
[23:38] <exutux> comeback89: ssh doesn't matter of LAMP
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> comeback89, Right - then it appears as though your ssh either isn't installed or setup; however, have you tried to just telnet into it? Did you install telnet?
[23:38] <comeback89> no, i'll give telnet a try
[23:39] <MegaR> sudo service sshd restart or something?
[23:39] <GanjaReefer> all you should have to do is sudo apt-get install openssh-server and then ssh ip
[23:39] <ecinx3> ardchoille, i got it. RIght click the top. Add to panel. Run Application.
[23:39] <ardchoille> ecinx3: That'll work :)
[23:40] <ecinx3> very simplle, i don't know why someone else was being rude instead of just saying that.
[23:40] <SoftTimur> hello all, does anyone know where I could find the file "gtkrc-2.0"?
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> SoftTimur, ~/.gtkrc-2.0 mate
[23:41] <ardchoille> ecinx3: youo're going to like Unity :) It has a search box in the panel
[23:41] <exutux> :-/
[23:42] <SoftTimur> YankDownUnder: is it normal that I do not have this file?
[23:42] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: you may have to create it
[23:42] <ardchoille> I don't have one either
[23:42] <YankDownUnder> SoftTimur, Um...should be there my friend...if it ain't, then yeah, you'll have to create it...
[23:42] <Reallycool> how do I change the tty resolution?
[23:42] <GanjaReefer> Reallycool, you mean font size?
[23:43] <MegaR> Reallycool, why would you do that?
[23:43] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: I'm guessing you aren't running gnome session?
[23:44] <SoftTimur> ardchoille: what do you mean?
[23:44] <coraxx> hey all... a question ... when you have logged in to Ubuntu in a different language and you've by accident chosen "Update names" (the home directories names) ...and you want to change them back to the original English...how is that done ?
[23:44] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: that file simply tells the system which themes to use
[23:44] <Reallycool> MegaR, because I installed ubuntu to a usb drive and am seeing the strange effect where the tty appears to be 1920x1080 on one installation and 640x480 or so on another
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> gtkrc-2.0 => Example: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Toolkit_Beautification
[23:44] <naamio_mies> So one of the solutions to my driver problem that I haven't been able to try yet is getting a Catalyst Proprietary Driver. Earlier on GNOME opening 'ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run' gave me a permissions error, and I didn't know how to command-line it. Now in KDE it's trying to open with gedit.
[23:45] <jbsoum> hey all, im having an issue with my panel. it seems everytime i boot up the icons end up missing, displaying incorrectly, or are in the wrong place. any thoughts?
[23:45] <naamio_mies> What desktop environment?
[23:45] <naamio_mies> Default for Ubuntu is GNOME
[23:45] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: and if you're running a gnome session, you don't need a gtkrc-2.0 file since the Appearance app does that for you
[23:45] <tottiq> jbsoum, same here  i was about to ask that
[23:45] <ecinx3> ardchoille,  I tried unity on my laptop, 11.04 something is wrong, it worked once. but everytime i run it no panels show up
[23:46] <coraxx> naamio_mies: who did you ask ?
[23:46] <naamio_mies> jbsoum, and tottiq
[23:46] <ardchoille> ecinx3: unity only has one panel at the top
[23:46] <noob> jrib: i dont really understand? remove the package, it looks like i would be removing a lot?
[23:46] <SoftTimur> actually I want to add a line in the file "gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs""
[23:46] <ecinx3> i can only get it by running unity -release
[23:46] <Starminn> ecinx3: 11.04 Natty Narwhal support is at #ubuntu+1
[23:46] <tottiq> gnome, 10.10
[23:47] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: some examples on how to do that are here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Toolkit_Beautification
[23:47] <ecinx3> or something like that, but then  if i close the terminal window it crashes. I really wanted to try it for the 'utouch' since my screen is multitouch
[23:47] <SoftTimur> ardchoille: do you know how could I do this setting without changing that file?
[23:47] <ardchoille> YankDownUnder: Thanks for that link :)
[23:47] <tottiq> naamio_mies, they are displaying incorrectly
[23:47] <jbsoum> naamio_mies, same, gnome, 10.10
[23:47] <YankDownUnder> ardchoille, Yer welcome mate.
[23:47] <ardchoille> SoftTimur: no idea, I don't use that file
[23:47] <tottiq> naamio_mies, with a random order
[23:47] <ecinx3> Starminn, thanks.. I'm not going to miss with unity at the moment
[23:48] <coraxx> hey all... a question ... when you have logged in to Ubuntu in a different language and you've by accident chosen "Update names" (the home directories names) ...and you want to change them back to the original English...how is that done ? anyone ?
[23:48] <naamio_mies> Weird. Don't know what to say, I had a similar problem but with KDE that I fixed. Not sure about GNOME
[23:49] <naamio_mies> Since you both got this problem at the same time(?) it might be an update thing
[23:49] <jbsoum> ive been having this problem for the past 2 or 3 weeks now
[23:50] <bc81> coraxx: no idea, but you might look into the startup application called " User folders update".  "Update common folders names to match current locale"  the command it's calling is xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update
[23:50] <naamio_mies> !help .run
[23:50] <coraxx> bc81: thanx... I'll look right now
[23:50] <jrasmussen> install grub boot loader to master boot record... I want that, right?
[23:51] <jrasmussen> this will be the only OS on this computer
[23:51] <ardchoille> jrasmussen: yes, you want that
[23:51] <jrasmussen> thx
[23:54] <bc81> jbsoum, you tried resetting your panel?
[23:54] <jbsoum> bc81, how do i reste my panel?
[23:54] <bc81> !panels | jbsoum
[23:55] <jbsoum> ok everything looks normal now bc81
[23:56] <jbsoum> but resetting means i have to reorganize my panel again, am i going to have to do this everytime?
[23:56] <ZenGuy> I have a problem with Totem.. It won;t play anything after a brand new OS install.. I removed all configs and removed the app.. smae result.. i've purged the app and reinstalled with the same resuilts
[23:57] <ZenGuy> totem seems to slowly buffer local files until i can 'seek' & see the individual frame.. effectively now playback
[23:58] <bc81> jbsoum: i don't know..but it's something to try and see if that fixes it.
[23:59] <jbsoum> well, bc81, it's fixed, but my xchat icon is missing from the panel, which i believe is supposed to be there by default, and all my shortcuts are gone