[00:46] <stewyc> installation is complete!!!! woohooo
[00:46] <stewyc> win xp is dead long live xubuntu
[00:54] <stewyc> ok now i have xubuntu installed i still need to install drivers for a realtek usb wifi dongle
[02:19] <lighta> !version
[02:26] <aladoinsa> can anyone tell me why i can write to this disk, from fstab: UUID=234e7c21-a19c-4e78-8c48-e79ae0d4d39b /media/100gb    ext4    rw,user          0       1
[02:31] <charlie-tca> aladoinsa: because of the rw, user gives any user read-write access to the partition
[02:31] <lighta> !vdso
[02:31] <lighta> =(
[02:33] <lighta> well yeah remove w option if you don't want user to be able to write there
[02:33] <aladoinsa> charlie-tca: sorry, i meant can't, why i can't write to it
[02:34] <lighta> are you the good user ?
[02:35] <aladoinsa> lighta,  what do you mean with "good"?
[02:36] <aladoinsa> i though all users could write to it with the "user" option
[02:36] <aladoinsa> *thought
[02:36] <charlie-tca> Might need to belong to the "user" group
[02:36] <charlie-tca> and if it is usb, the "usb" group, too
[02:37] <lighta> isn't a easier way if he put default ? to deal with this ?
[02:38] <aladoinsa> yes i had it at default first, then when i couldnt write to it i changed it to rw,user, but that didnt help obviously
[02:39] <lighta> hmm ok so do like charlie-tca said add yourself into those group
[02:42] <aladoinsa> as far as i know there is no "user" group, the two options are "nouser" which means only for root, and "user" which means all other users
[02:44] <charlie-tca> go to Applications -> System -> Users and Groups, manage groups, towards the bottom is "users"
[02:45] <aladoinsa> yes i know, but i dont understand why i have to be a member of that group, this has never happened to me before
[02:45] <charlie-tca> or give us more information about that drive... Is it an external drive, is it a windows owned drive? What is the file system?
[02:45] <aladoinsa> but i'll give it a go then
[02:46] <aladoinsa> its just a second partition of my drive
[02:46] <lighta> to know your group
[02:46] <lighta> cat /etc/group | awk -F: '{print $1" ---> "$4}'
[02:47] <charlie-tca> maybe it doesn't like the mount point - /media/100gb is owned by root. Did you try accessing it with sudo?
[02:47] <charlie-tca> Unless you change owner to yourself, root owns all the rights to that partition
[02:47] <charlie-tca> I missed that earlier
[02:47] <charlie-tca> sorry for not reading it right
[02:47] <aladoinsa> yes maybe thats it, but i have always mounted my drives there, and as far as i remeber i never had this problem
[02:48] <lighta> try ls -l
[02:48] <lighta> you see wich own the file
[02:50] <charlie-tca> might have been a security leak that got fixed, too.
[02:53] <charlie-tca> Does the user ID of the files in the partition match the current user ID? that will also cause you to not be able to access them now.
[02:54]  * charlie-tca got burned by that once a while ago.
[02:56] <aladoinsa> charlie-tca, now i mounted it in my home folder, still couldnt write to it. then i exchanged rw,user for "deafaults" and still no luck...this is very strange
[02:57] <charlie-tca> did you do     ls -l to see who owns the files?
[02:57] <aladoinsa> But yes, i can access it as root
[02:58] <charlie-tca> so user ID of the files is different than current user ID.
[02:58] <aladoinsa> yes, root is the owner
[02:59] <aladoinsa> which i do not get..
[02:59] <charlie-tca> then it is correct and you, as the user, can not access them
[03:00] <aladoinsa> yes, but doesnt the "user" option in fstab give me those rights?
[03:00] <charlie-tca> You have two choices, use sudo, or chown the files to yourself
[03:00] <charlie-tca> not for files owned by root. You can not access the files in /etc either as a user, because root owns them.
[03:00] <aladoinsa> i dont have any files on it, and i of course do not want to sudo every time i want to write to it
[03:01] <charlie-tca> A user is only allowed access to files owned by the user or to files with 777
[03:01] <aladoinsa> im sure there must be a way to give me the rights to write to it
[03:01] <charlie-tca> which is wide open to anyone for read write execute
[03:02] <aladoinsa> i think im missing something in fstab
[03:05] <aladoinsa> anyone else want to weigh in on this one?
[03:11] <aladoinsa> charlie-tca, ok i solved it with an ugly hack, i changed the owner of the mointpoint to my own group
[03:11] <aladoinsa> but im sure there must be another way
[07:43] <swapicrash> what is the terminal command to adjust swapiness?
[10:31] <XubuntuNoob> does anybody know what to install to get the Places->connect to server option?
[10:33] <Sysi> 11.04 alpha. If you need to mount remote filesystems, use gigolo
[10:33] <XubuntuNoob> is that install by default?
[10:33] <XubuntuNoob> installed
[10:34] <XubuntuNoob> k, found it
[10:35] <XubuntuNoob> why does the 10.10 manual say about the connect feature if it is only in (x)ubuntu 11+?
[10:36] <Sysi> hum, i've never read manual or saw that kinda option, where is it mentioned?
[10:36] <XubuntuNoob> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/internet/C/connecttoserver-windowsshare.html
[10:36] <XubuntuNoob> :-)
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> i always try to look in the manual first
[10:37] <Sysi> ubuntu and xubuntu have different places-thing
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> but here its not correct it seems
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> a
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> h
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> ok
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> thanks for the tip
[10:37] <XubuntuNoob> btw, the gigollo things seems to work
[10:38] <XubuntuNoob> I already tried yesterday all day to get samba/cifs working but this is it
[10:39] <XubuntuNoob> so now I can get to my mp3s, now its just a matter of getting sound out of my computer :-)
[11:13] <balsaq> good morning technicians
[13:03] <xubuntu694> neat.  i'm installing xubuntu, and the installer gave an option to chat while it loads.  that's really cool!
[13:21] <mikubuntu> help!! trying to install mypaint from the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MyPaint , but i think there must be something missing after the instruction for line 4 -- would someone be able to have a look for me?  it gets to a point where the prompt reads: mikubuntu@mikubuntu-laptop:~/mypaint-0.7.1$   and i don't know what to do next.
[13:28] <knome> mikubuntu, are you running 9.04?
[13:30] <psycho_oreos> he asked the exact same question in #ubuntu
[13:34] <knome> and got help?
[13:36] <psycho_oreos> yup
[13:37] <knome> okay
[13:37] <knome> mikubuntu, please do not cross-post questions
[13:38] <psycho_oreos> minimec from #ubuntu is helping from what I can see
[13:38] <mikubuntu> sorry guys
[14:41] <lithpr> hi, i just installed xfce 4.8- does anyone know how to configure the "launcher bar" style panel that is installed by default at the bottom of the screen?
[14:41] <Sysi> like any panel
[17:00] <seanlaptop> hi all anyone wanna gimme a lil help? lol
[17:01] <knome> !ask | seanlaptop
[17:06] <seanlaptop> sorry.. anyone have issues with the seagate Expansion 500 gig drives being recognized by your computer under Xubuntu?
[17:07] <Sysi> is it formatted?
[17:07] <knome> err
[17:31] <rethus> how can i reset all te Desktop-settings back to default?
[20:08] <surreal7z> hey guys.. how to upgrade xubuntu 10.10 to xubuntu 11.04 alpha 2... because I want xfce 4.8 because it is able to use Menu Editors, thx!
[20:08] <Sysi> update-manager -d
[20:08] <charlie-tca> Alt+F2, update-manger -d
[20:08] <Sysi> remember it's still alpha
[20:08] <TheSheep> menu editors are for the weak
[20:08] <charlie-tca> be aware that natty is still subject to breaking bad
[20:09]  * charlie-tca feels like an echo today
[20:10] <surreal7z> hmm... thx! :D   so, subject to breaking bad.... maybe I could give it a shot with editing menu myself
[20:11] <surreal7z> so... the stuff I don't want to be displayed.. i will just put # before it? :p
[20:11] <TheSheep> hidden=true
[20:12] <surreal7z> thx my friend
[20:12] <Sysi> i use aptitude to clean up my menus
[20:44] <surreal7z> i'm getting there... i'm using NoDisplay=true  ... works great..
[20:49] <lithpr> surreal7z, you can update to 4.8 w/o going to natty using  a ppa
[20:49] <lithpr> if you want it, i'll look it up for you
[20:53] <surreal7z> no problem... right now I fixed menu by hand and that was a reason I wanted 4.8.. so, fixed.. thx :)
[20:54] <lithpr> https://launchpad.net/~koshi/+archive/xfce-4.8
[20:54] <lithpr> okay, nm then :)
[20:56] <surreal7z> but.. maybe you can help me with some other problem I am having... when using synaptic manager it's easy to install packages but when you install something more packages are being installed.. and when you want to remove one package, other packages that have been installed are not listed and then I don't know what packages were installed... to uninstall them
[20:57] <surreal7z> if you know what I mean :p
[20:57] <lithpr> surreal7z, first response: that's the biggest benefit of using aptitude vs apt-get
[20:57] <lithpr> apptitude*
[20:58] <surreal7z> ok, thx :)
[21:00] <Unit193> sudo apt-get autoremove <-- that would do the trick
[21:00] <Sysi> not as well
[21:01] <lithpr> Unit193, nice!
[21:03] <Unit193> Sysi: How does aptitude do it better?
[21:03] <Sysi> Unit193: it actually removes unneeded does, for my experience that actually doesn't
[21:04] <Sysi> but i'm not exactly sure
[21:04] <peter-l-n> hello everyone.
[21:05] <Sysi> hi
[21:05] <peter-l-n> I'm having a bit of a problem with my xubuntu installation, which i think is related to my eCryptfs home directory, but I'm not sure ... is this a proper place to ask for help for that?
[21:06] <peter-l-n> (i've already spend awhile searching for similar-seeming problems on the forums, but i can't find anything that seems to exactly match what's happening)
[21:08] <knome> yeah, this is a good place
[21:09] <Unit193> Sysi: What's the command for that in aptitude? (I never use aptitude)
[21:10] <peter-l-n> Basically it won't let me login. It's not a password problem, that gives a different error. It flashes black for a second, can't see wha tthe message is there, then returns to login screen. Same result with xfce login instead of xubuntu...
[21:11] <peter-l-n> i then used the recovery console login option instead, and did sudo xfce-session, and that's what i'm logged into right now...
[21:11] <peter-l-n> (been using this xubuntu install for a few weeks; before that was using ubuntu for 2 years or so; first time this happened)
[21:15] <peter-l-n> I was thinking that maybe I have a problem with the encrypted home directory, since some ecryptfs-related errors show up in syslog, but i have no idea, really. =[
[21:16] <TheSheep> peter-l-n: change the xfwm theme
[21:17] <TheSheep> peter-l-n: xubuntu had a bug where one of the themes crashed it
[21:17] <peter-l-n> oh. hrm. okay.
[21:17] <peter-l-n> how do i switch my user's theme, from within this root session?
[21:18] <Sysi> Unit193: there isn't, that's the point. Aptitude removes dependencies with package, autoremove removes dependencies marked unnneeded but afaik it doesn't work as well
[21:19] <TheSheep> peter-l-n: you can edit /home/yourusername/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml with a text editor
[21:20] <peter-l-n> property 'theme' is empty - what's should i set it to?
[21:22] <TheSheep> hmm... then that's not it, sorry
[21:22] <peter-l-n> doh. hm.
[21:22] <TheSheep> you might want to check /home/yourusername/.xsessionerrors to see what is wrong
[21:22] <Unit193> Sysi: Thanks, I'll remember that...
[21:23] <Sysi> Unit193: though i've never managed to use over 5GB for my system, not really big matter
[21:24] <peter-l-n> ok there are a few there
[21:24] <peter-l-n> might this be it? "xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/pln/.ICEauthority: Input/output error"
[21:24] <peter-l-n> that's the last one
[21:25] <Sysi> you could try removing iceauthority file
[21:26] <TheSheep> hmm... what are the permissions for your home directory?
[21:28] <peter-l-n> looking through thunar, owner (pln) has r&w, group pln has none, others none
[21:28] <peter-l-n> it's an encrypted home directory, which might be somehow related to this...
[21:29] <TheSheep> try giving x to others and group
[21:29] <peter-l-n> the .ICEauthority file is 0 bytes incidentally
[21:30] <peter-l-n> which doesn't seem right, no?
[21:34] <peter-l-n> okay. thanks - i'll try this ICEthing first, then the permissions...
[21:36] <peter-l-n> yay! deleting the .ICEauthority file worked
[21:38] <surreal7z> here guys... maybe this will be helpful for someone http://files.fosswire.com/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf   http://files.fosswire.com/2008/04/ubunturef.pdf
[21:38] <peter-l-n> thanks guys
[21:38] <peter-l-n> any idea why that file might have been created / how i can avoid it happening again?
[21:40] <xubuntu772> does anyone know how to access files on a network attached storage device using xubuntu?
[21:43] <TheSheep> !info gigolo | xubuntu772
[21:44] <xubuntu772> thanks
[21:49] <surreal7z> this is insane, 5 programs running and google chrome... and only 35% of memory used.. sweeeeet ^^
[21:49] <surreal7z> 1g ram
[21:52] <lighta> =)
[23:12] <surreal7z> when I close Rhythmbox it continues to play songs?
[23:14] <charlie-tca> It should still be in the notification area
[23:14] <surreal7z> found this.... thank you for your bug report but no, if you close the dialog while playing it goes to the sound indicator as a service and keep doing its work, you need to either stop the music and close it or use the quit menu entry
[23:14] <charlie-tca> You have to close the icon in the panel
[23:15] <surreal7z> yeah.. but no icon, weird
[23:21]  * surreal7z is away: rolling a joint
[23:23] <rotsky> How to change Ubuntu to Xubuntu without reinstalling?
[23:23] <rotsky> How to replace Gnome with Xfce
[23:24] <charlie-tca> !away > surreal7z
[23:25] <rotsky> How to replace Gnome with Xfce on ubuntu
[23:26] <charlie-tca> rotsky: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:26] <rotsky> thx
[23:44] <rotsky> Hi! I have installed xubuntu-desktop packages over ubuntu, but session of Xubuntu dont works, causing just showing me a logging screen. What should it be?
[23:53] <charlie-tca> at the login screen, after selecting your user, you need to select the session at the bottom. Choose Xubuntu session
[23:54] <rotsky> I told, that after selecting it kicks me back to login screen
[23:55] <charlie-tca> You can login, but it just cycles back?
[23:57] <charlie-tca> Try switching to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F2, login, and delete the .ICEauthority file then
[23:57] <charlie-tca> use this             rm ~/home/USER_NAME/.ICEauthority