[00:00] It's really small by default [00:00] But the image is big enough which doesn't make snese [00:00] sense [00:00] not snese [00:00] so you set that as the icon for tong, but it auto-sized it and made it too small? [00:00] Yes [00:01] I tried resizing the height. Maybe I should try that again [00:01] ah, alright, i get what you're saying now. i'm not sure if there is a way to change that in the menus or not, but you should be able to change it if it's on your desktop [00:01] Hold on, I got an idea [00:04] That did work. I resized the height even more to see what would happen. [00:04] didn't [00:04] work [00:04] sorrry [00:04] are you using gnome? [00:04] yes [00:05] I don't want to mess with setting [00:05] s [00:05] I want to be able to have any image open to the size I want it to [00:05] with in reason of coarse [00:06] I just configured kubuntu as a file server with a 2tb drive attached via USB. I need to move 240GB data from NAS (linksys WRT610N router) to new file server. copy/paste seems risky help? [00:06] what do you mean by "have any image open to the size i want it to"? are you still talking about the icon in the applications menu? [00:06] What a second I got it [00:06] The name of the image changed things [00:07] admin1: Seems risky? [00:07] It was Tong-title.png but now I changed it to Tongtitle.png and it changed size a little [00:08] admin1: I don't know how you expect to move files without copying and pasting them [00:08] Mr. Druif - yes, new to this command line editor, a bit different than dos is there something similar to xcopy that I can use at the command level [00:08] admin1: cp [00:08] admin1: You mean to say you've removed the KDE environment completely? [00:09] I meant I want to know what format to make any image open as an icon in any size I want with in reason. It's not like I want giant icons. [00:09] aveilleux: That's what I wanted to say :P [00:09] admin1: GNU/Linux's cp command is as powerful if not more powerful than xcopy on DOS [00:09] no, I can see both shares in KDE, but the source drive is on network, not physically on this box [00:11] okay, let me look this cp deal up, can I use it from my Konsole...I assume I can use it from my terminal window... [00:12] admin1: Yes, cp IS the terminal command :) [00:12] okay reading syntax now [00:13] Like "cp /path/to/original.location /path/to/new.location [00:13] can I use *.* [00:13] admin1: You should use * .* [00:13] admin1: asterisk-space-asterisl [00:13] k* [00:13] admin1: Because not every file will have a period in it [00:14] cp /path/to/source * .* /path/to/destination like this [00:14] r4y: .png is a common format for icons [00:15] cp -r /path/to/source /path/to/destination is what your looking for I think....right aveilleux? [00:15] Right, there's another I believe as well, I will go look for the other [00:15] r4y: .svg is scalable [00:15] xpm [00:16] i'm not familiar with xpm.. [00:16] Cool, I will try [00:16] admin1: Closer, yeah... you'd have to do cp -r /path/to/source/* /path/to/destination && cp -r /path/to/source/.* /path/to/destination [00:16] svg you say [00:18] okay...i set up a test directory or two and get it down before i try the entire project. [00:18] thanks for the help..... [00:18] r4y: Scalable Vector Graphic (i think). svg images can be expanded/shrunk much more without losing detail [00:18] ddecator: Your right [00:19] MrChrisDruif: thanks, i was going to google that to make sure i got the acronym right, haha [00:19] your welcome admin1 :) [00:19] Hmm, Gimp either doesn't have that as a save-able format or something. I also have Kolour Paint though. I will have to keep messing around [00:19] MrChrisDruif: what about this rsync [00:20] Ow, it's pretty awesome afaik....syncing accounts on local network [00:20] (Haven't been able to test/work with it thou) [00:20] r4y: You can't save raster images as svg. That's not how it works. (GIMP is a raster editor) [00:21] OK [00:21] And I also don't know if it's also good for only files... [00:21] How do I change it? [00:21] r4y: svg files? [00:21] yes [00:22] r4y: Gimp wasn't "build" for svg....use inkscape instead :) [00:22] r4y: You have to make the image in a vector editor, like Inkscape. [00:22] MrChrisDruif: aw, beat me to it [00:22] ddecator: I even beat aveilleux to the punch ;) [00:22] r4y: it'll probably be easier to search for a .svg icon instead of trying to make one [00:22] Cool, I will try out Inkscape, sounds neat [00:23] i'm not sure if inkscape is able to effectively convert images to .svg [00:23] I like learning [00:23] I just learned recently how to make transparent backgrounds using Gimp [00:23] ddecator: I can't convert automatic afaik....normal images mis the right information [00:24] MrChrisDruif: yah, that's what i thought [00:25] It uses nodes to determine how something must look :) [00:27] mrchrisdruif: can you look at this for me: cp -r /coyoteden/family_share/tune zone/* /media/COYOTE_DRIVE/tune_zone && cp -r /coyoteden/family_share/tune zone/.* /media/COYOTE_DRIVE/tune_zone [00:28] admin1: Should work, did you test it with a folder already? [00:28] source path has a space in the middle of it, is this going to be an issue? it was created in windows (ouch) also, are path's case sensitive in this environment [00:29] case sensitive yes [00:29] space probably needs to be %20 [00:30] so tune%20zone [00:30] good news is, for the existing directory, you can use complete [00:31] Ow...the family_share is actually family share? [00:31] so typing tun should complete it for you when you get to that part [00:32] admin1: ^ [00:32] my guess is it will put in the %20, but if it needs to do something else then it should do it automatically [00:33] also helps prevent typos :) [00:33] ddecator: You are probably right, but what should work is "family share" [00:33] Making it an string [00:33] ddecator: Er, you can just escape it [00:34] aveilleux: escape what? [00:34] admin1: You can type spaces like this: this\ sentence\ has\ spaces\ in\ it [00:34] ddecator: Sentences. %20 doesn't work on cp. [00:34] ddecator: I mean spaces [00:34] oh, does that work in a command? [00:34] ddecator: It's... how UNIX sees spaces in filenames [00:34] that's why i suggested the tab complete :p [00:34] aveilleux: I'm not sure it spaces work :P [00:34] okay so no %20 just use spaces [00:35] preceded by \ [00:35] it=if [00:35] admin1: No. Escape the spaces with a \ [00:35] MrChrisDruif: You escape them, as I've been saying [00:36] so, like this: cp -r /coyoteden/FAMILY_SHARE/TUNE\ ZONE/* /media/COYOTE_DRIVE/TUNE_ZONE && cp -r /coyoteden/FAMILY_SHARE/TUNE\ ZONE/.* /media/COYOTE_DRIVE/TUNE_ZONE [00:37] admin1: That looks correct to me [00:37] yup, assuming the case is correct [00:37] aveilleux: I think putting it in between "" works as well :) [00:38] thanks ya'll - sure hope so...i guess we will see in a few minutes here TUNE""ZONE [00:38] MrChrisDruif: Wildcard characters are interpreted literally inside quotation marks [00:38] aveilleux: How do you mean? [00:39] MrChrisDruif: typing cp "*" will only copy files named * [00:42] doesnt work. do you suppose I have to include the workgroup name also [01:19] Well it lloks a lot better but I need to mess around with it some more. Thank you for your help and thank you for telling me about Inkscape [01:19] Ya it locks a lot better, LOL [01:21] Wow, thank you MrChrisDruif, aveilleux, and ddecator [01:22] Your welcome r4y :) [01:22] Take care dudes. [01:22] :) [01:27] I'm also off...TTYL :D [04:26] Hello, is anyone there to please help me? I had a question about the differences in the mirror server? [04:26] !ask | fds4Rm5f45 [04:26] fds4Rm5f45: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [04:26] I had a question about a difference in the mirror server [04:28] What is the difference between the 10.04.1, 10.04.2, and the regular 10.04 dvd downloads? [04:28] What is the difference between the 10.04.1, 10.04.2, and the regular 10.04 dvd downloads? [04:29] 10.4.2 has upgrades [04:29] I would recommend to grab 10.4.2 instead of 10.04 [04:31] fds4Rm5f45, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_release [04:31] ok thank you [04:31] ok cool, thank you for your help [04:31] it is much appreciate [04:31] appreciated* [04:32] np === satamusic_ is now known as satamusic [10:40] Hello. [10:40] hello s-fox :) [10:40] how're you? [10:40] Hello JoeMaverickSett . [10:40] I am fine. How are you ? [10:41] i'm fine too. thanks for asking. :) [10:41] planning to take a nap ;D [10:41] !offtopic | s-fox JoeMaverickSett >:@ [10:41] s-fox JoeMaverickSett >:@: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [10:41] ibuclaw, hmmm [10:41] !evil | ibuclaw [10:41] Factoid 'evil' not found [10:41] :) [10:41] :D [10:41] Hello ibuclaw [10:42] You been singing in the shower? Dreadful rain here ;) [10:42] s-fox, sawry :3 [10:42] I did have a strange night last night though [10:43] anyways, I'm not here. >:| [10:43] Of course not [10:48] o/ [10:49] Morning duanedesign :) [10:49] Good weekend ? [11:00] yeah, not bad. thank you for asking s-fox === s-fox is now known as evil-s-fox [12:34] can anyone recommend filrewall and/or AV suite to install [12:39] admin1 [12:39] For your desktop? [12:39] You don't need an antivirus for your Ubuntu, you're secured without it [12:40] As for firewall, check out Firestarter in the Ubuntu Software Center [13:29] * nlsthzn pats ufw and it purrs back peacefully :) [16:07] hello i m new on ubuntu [16:07] plz suggest me [16:07] hi nitin [16:07] suggest what? [16:07] some new apps for networking [16:07] O_o [16:08] dunno [16:08] programming skills [16:08] ? [16:08] what programming skills? [16:09] stuffs on programming skills [16:09] nitin: do you mean to say you wish to study programming on Ubuntu? and that you need some suggestion? [16:09] ya joe [16:09] ok [16:10] any idea [16:10] nitin, what you actuallly want to do? or learn? [16:10] java spring hibernate [16:10] struts [16:10] read head first java for java [16:11] ya i have read but fot spring [16:11] hibernate and struts [16:11] nitin, ask in ##programming [16:12] thnx abhi [16:13] np [16:14] abhi im new on ubuntu' [16:15] nitin, you are welcome! [16:15] r u all r like me or some experts [16:15] we all are humans here [16:15] Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings!!! [16:15] :D [16:15] why u all help each other any one pays u or for humanity [16:15] nitin, offtopic discussioon on #ubuntu-offtopic [16:16] nitin, not for humanity for my selfishness [16:16] means [16:16] nitin, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and chat there [16:16] JoeMaverickSett, what is yoour answer? :P [16:17] nitin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam [16:18] :-s [16:18] JoeMaverickSett, dont bypass his question. answer. i will use it in my seminar too [16:18] nitin: we help each other, because we love doing it. we don't get paid. we do it in our own free times. [16:19] nitin: we help because we don't like to see people walk away from Ubuntu just because they encountered a slight problem with it while using. [16:20] +1 for second poing joe [16:28] !tab | nitin [16:28] nitin: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [16:32] !tab | nitin what it means [16:32] nitin what it means: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [16:32] AbhijiT: ##programming's the last channel some people want to go do. [16:32] They aren't as friendly as #ubuntu-* channels. [16:32] could anyone help me to understand dat kind of pseudocode [16:33] nitin: Pseudo code? [16:33] Like if condition X is true, then do WHY? [16:33] hmm [16:34] Well, I use it a lot when I'm trying to solve a programming issue, like how to download information from a Wiki. [16:34] Do DownloadWiki(); if DownloadWiki() returns a nonzero value, raise an error. === tronyx_ is now known as tronyx [17:08] hi [17:08] I am new to ubuntu -- can't seem to get xchat-gnome to connect to freenode; but, as you can see -- I am on via chatzilla [17:09] do I need to disabel something like IPv6 globally somewhere? [17:09] *disable [17:10] I did disable it in Firefox so I could download add-ons [17:10] jrasmussen_u: What happens when you try to connect? [17:10] it keeps cycling and trying to connect [17:10] no channels [17:10] let me open it again [17:10] jrasmussen_u: What server and port is it trying to connect to? [17:12] On-screen display xchat_print called without a valid context. Looking up irc.freenode.net.. [17:12] Connecting to chat.freenode.net (32.1.20.24) port 8001.. [17:12] Shouldn't that be port 6667? [17:12] jrasmussen_u: 8001 works too [17:13] Hm. [17:13] I have tried both ports [17:13] this is a new install of ubuntu 10.10, so I am wondering if I need to configure something differently [17:13] jrasmussen_u: Does anything show up after that? That really doesn't show an error with connecting. Out of curiosity, do you have a plugin for OSD or on-screen display enabled? [17:14] what is OSD? [17:14] jrasmussen_u: On Sceen Display [17:14] I did the alternate install amd64 [17:14] I have a sort of desktop [17:14] how do I check this? [17:14] * nhandler was talking about within xchat [17:15] oh [17:15] yes, OSD was on [17:16] I just unchecked it [17:17] very new to ubuntu! [17:18] jrasmussen_u: You mentioned that xchat tries to connect, fails, and then keeps trying. Can you pastebin the full output? [17:19] where do I paste? I know it will be too long for the chat window ... === Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703 [17:20] jrasmussen_u: paste.ubuntu.com works [17:20] ok [17:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/570145/ [17:23] log files in debug give me this message -- eth0: no IPv6 routers present [17:23] and I did turn off IPv6 in Firefox [17:23] I wonder if this affects it? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:27] I will try changing the settings ... [17:30] which one is best distro of linux [17:31] ubuntu kubuntu opensuse fedora or redhat blackhat [17:32] nitin: If we give you an opinion, it'd be bias. :) [17:33] give one [17:33] still no go for the xchat-gnome [17:33] I personally like Ubuntu because GNOME is a bit more flexible than KDE in my opinion. [17:33] jrasmussen_u: If you are using ipv6, try connecting to ipv6.chat.freenode.net [17:33] But I haven't tried XFCE yet. [17:34] No idea with openSUSE. [17:34] I think I did turn off the IPv6, but I will give that a try [17:34] xfce ? [17:34] nitin: That is what xubuntu uses [17:34] nitin, for desktop I've found Arch Linux most suitable for my use, with laptop I'm using Lubuntu [17:34] Should have made that clear. [17:35] and I'm about to build a htpc running on Arch too [17:35] there's no ultimate answer which is best, every distro has it's own benefits [17:36] bioterror: +1 [17:36] That's the beauty of it; it's pure personal preference. [17:36] you can take what ever you want and make it look something [17:36] for cs engineering programming and networking stuff?? [17:38] counter-strike engineering?! [17:38] nhandler: still not working in xchat -- glad I got chatzilla to work [17:41] nitin: That's more of an development environment you're looking for. [17:42] for programming networking and hacking stuff which linux distro is best [17:44] for programming networking and hacking stuff which linux distro is best [17:44] jrasmussen_u, I had the same probs with xchat-gnome on lucid. Installed straight xchat and no more probs [17:47] wedwo-: thanks, I may try that next [17:47] although I am not adverse to using chatzilla I guess -- except that I have the entire seamonkey suite installed! [17:49] can I uninstall seamonkey and just have chatzilla? maybe as a firefox add-on only? [17:52] yes: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/ [17:52] wedwo-: great! [17:52] jrasmussen_u: You can also install just chatzilla itself, not as an extension. [17:53] I will get rid of all the seamonkey extras ... [17:53] johnny77: I think that would be better than having things I won't use [17:54] jrasmussen_u: I agree. You can install seamonkey as a suite, but you can also install the individual apps. ie only chatzilla. [17:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey#Install%20Individual%20Applications === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [17:56] Hello all o/ [17:59] johnny77: I will uninstall the suite and then see about only having chatzilla [17:59] thx for the link [18:00] jrasmussen_u: No problem. Do what's best for you. If you'd rather have the Firefox extension fine, but I wanted you to have all the information. [18:10] johnny77: will try it both ways [18:50] How do I get my Intel Pocket PC Cam (CS630) to work with ubuntu 10.10? I've looked at the webcam documentation on the ubuntu site, and it offers no support for my webcam. [18:53] you said you checked this page?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam [18:55] Yes the UVC driver doesn't support my webcam. I've found one that does, but you have to compile it, and I have no idea how to. [18:55] which one? [18:55] http://spca50x.sourceforge.net/devices.html [18:57] huh, it doesn't have a debian package... [18:58] http://sourceforge.net/projects/spca50x/files/ [18:58] Looking for the latest version? Download spca50x-gcc-3.2-linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk-module-0.30.tar.gz (42.6 KB) [18:58] Is that what you need? [18:59] I mean, "mean?" [18:59] hm, there are old versions on the debian site [19:00] debian site? [19:00] Sorry I'm totally new to the Ubuntu world. =/ So website about ubuntu and stuff are new to me. I've just been trying to get my webcam to work for the past 12 hours almost. [19:01] right, the easiest way to install the driver will be to use a .deb, so there won't be any real work needed on your part. people packaged it as a .deb, but it's an older version. we can try it though and see if it works [19:02] Link me to it? [19:03] one sec [19:04] http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=spca&searchon=all&suite=oldstable§ion=all [19:04] like i said, old version, but it might work [19:05] the links on the bottom are the newest. are you using 32- or 64-bit? [19:05] 32 bit [19:06] this should be the one you need: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gspca-modules-2.6.26-2-686 [19:07] apparently it depends on your processor though [19:07] that one *should* install though [19:09] MichaelDeaton_: when you go to that link, click the "i386" link and pick a server to download from [19:09] Alright I finally got it to download [19:10] Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-modules-2.6.26-2-686 [19:10] Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-modules-2.6.26-2-686 [19:10] D: [19:11] Noooo not fair. [19:12] hmmm... [19:13] looks like this hasn't really been maintained in a while... [19:14] sorry, i'm not sure how to compile a kernel module from source. i'm not even sure if it's compatible with the latest kernels. someone else might know though [19:14] :(( But it's the only way I know how to get my webcam to work.. :( I've gotten everything else to work. The only thing left is my webcam. =/ [19:18] huh...the latest kernels mentions gpsca [19:18] ha, yah, looks like that source doesn't compile to the newest kernels [19:19] and of course there is a source package in ubuntu, but no deb... [19:20] sounds like support is supposed to be built in now [19:21] hm, yah, there are gspca driver files in the current kernel, so i'm not sure why it's not working [19:22] sorry :/ [19:36] Okay.. Well thank you for the help. [19:59] Hey guys I have minecraft on ubuntu and I wanted to know how to had a "nice" priority to this command line if possible. [19:59] "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseAdaptiveGCBoundary -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=500 -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:+UseParallelGC -XX:UseSSE=3 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=1 -jar /home/michael/Downloads/minecraft.jar" [20:00] man nice [20:01] nice -20 == highes priority [20:01] highest [20:01] 19 is the lowest [20:01] I know that, but where do I put the nice command in my command I already have to change the priority to -15? [20:02] in the begin [20:02] uh? So I just put nice -20 in front of it? [20:02] y [20:03] So it'll look like this, "nice -20 java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseAdaptiveGCBoundary -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=500 -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:+UseParallelGC -XX:UseSSE=3 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=1 -jar /home/michael/Downloads/minecraft.jar"? [20:03] something like that [20:03] Uhhh? [20:03] with renice you can change pid's priority [20:04] D: Well I'm new to ubuntu, still learning comands, so I duno what you're talking about. =/ [20:04] dumb it down? [20:04] if you have a process running, you can change it's priority with renice [20:04] renice pid [20:06] I know how to do that, but I wanted to just make a launcher to automatically start the game with nice on -20 for highest priority [20:08] MichaelDeaton_: the command you said above is correct [20:08] nice -20 java.... [20:08] Well when I started the game, it says the Priority is "19" [20:11] you can try nice -n -19 [20:12] (I think without -n it doesn't give error messages) [20:20] It still didn't work. [20:21] Do I have to be a "root" usr? [20:33] How do I set both firefox and chrome to automatically use Vuze for torrents. For some reasons Vuze is default in nautilius but both of those browsers use Transmission [20:50] hey is there a way to input a path in a script? [20:51] im trying to get a path/filename and want to know if there is a way that a user can input it like the terminal does naturally with the tab key and such [21:29] ideas on how to check the size of a package that is already installed? [21:32] Where you could find the development channel for UBT? [21:33] JackyAlcine: ubuntu-beginners-dev i believe [21:33] seiuno: Including configuration, I don't know; but in Synaptic, it should show the size of the files installed for a related package. [21:33] JackyAlcine: yeah, trying with synaptic [21:34] hm. [21:34] 81.9KB isn't the total filesize used [21:35] i think when i installed the package it said something like 60MB [21:36] o.O [21:37] it's the meta package, it doesn't tabulate a total for all packages that will be installed [21:37] under properties, anyway [21:43] help please - installed and configured clamav Tk reports AV engine 0.96.5 and GUI are out of date. How do I manualy update to 4.31 I see the download file, but don't know what to do with it once I unzip [21:43] how do I unpack/install the taz.gz file? === admin1 is now known as CLF1 [21:47] CLF1: Usually with packages, you can just uninstall the package, [21:48] Go into the directory in a terminal where the tar.gz (tarball) is located, [21:48] run 'tar xvf '. [21:48] sudo tar xvf name [21:48] CLF1: No, you don't need root privileges for that. [21:48] ok [21:48] thx [21:49] does it matter where i put the tar when I download [21:49] root privileges probably wouldn't hurt, would it? [21:49] Within the tarball, actually, there should be instructions on how to install such a package. [21:49] seiuno: It might make it impossible for 'make' to read the files. [21:49] JackyAlcine: and this hurts? [21:50] seiuno: If 'make' can't read, how can it compile? [21:50] I understand for 'sudo make install'. [21:50]