[07:37] <TheMuso> ev: Thanks for that a11y fix in ubiquity. I will make sure to test that in the coming days.
[09:19] <ev> TheMuso: I would greatly appreciate that, thanks.
[10:37] <brendand> hi
[10:38] <brendand> sometimes when using the natty alternate installer, it appears as if /var/log/installer/media-info isn't created
[10:38] <brendand> is this a bug, or could there be any good reason for that?
[10:43] <Jemt> Do you need it to parse out some information ?
[10:44] <brendand> Jemt - yep
[10:45] <Jemt> What information do you need ?
[10:45] <brendand> Jemt - we have a system which attaches this information to test runs
[10:45] <Jemt> I see
[10:45] <brendand> Jemt - particularly the date
[10:45] <Jemt> Date of what ? Install ?
[10:45] <brendand> Jemt - No, the date of creation
[10:46] <Jemt> Of course
[10:46] <brendand> Jemt - not really looking for any workarounds though. we have a few of those in our pocket already :)
[10:46] <brendand> Jemt - just wondering if this is a bug or if it is supposed to happen in some cases
[10:46] <Jemt> Good. Sorry, can't answer your initial question
[10:47] <brendand> Jemt - note these are PxE installs
[10:47] <Jemt> Stick around - someone in here knows the answer :)
[10:47] <brendand> Jemt - hope so
[12:38] <scott-work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/720476
[12:38] <scott-work> would someone help me make sure i have the correct information in a bug report?
[12:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 720476 in debian-installer "Ubuntu Studio Natty fails to install software when ubuntustudio-video is chosen" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:39] <scott-work> during installation of ubuntu studio when the tasksel is selected for the video metapackage the install fails
[12:39] <scott-work> but the meta package doesn't fail to build however and can be installed manually after installation
[12:39] <cjwatson> scott-work: we need the installer syslog - you should find it in /var/log/installer/syslog after installation
[12:41] <scott-work> cjwatson: if i ran "ubuntu-bug debian-installer" would that have grabbed that log?
[12:41]  * scott-work is checking the bug now
[12:42] <scott-work> eh, it appears not...i will attached that log to the bug report tonight, cjwatson, thanks :)
[12:42] <cjwatson> it *ought* to have done, but who knows
[14:54] <superm1> ev, did that new ubiquity upload pass through your test farm okay?  I just looked at a preseeded install and it was hanging on partitioning
[14:54] <ev> superm1: the test farm is down while I try to find the time to dig into it locking up randomly.
[14:55] <superm1> ev, ah ok.  so it might potentially be common to non --automatic install too then
[14:56] <ev> which I've blamed on compiz/unity with no data to back up such an assertion, and ran off trying to shoehorn the test runner into the installer session rather than the desktop session, which would be better anyway, given that's what most people encounter.
[14:56] <ev> quite possibly
[14:58] <superm1> well all of those netbooks are intel right?  could potentially be that low level crash of X
[14:58] <superm1> you might be able to just get away with adding nomodeset to their install temporarily until it's sorted
[14:58] <ev> hmm, definitely
[14:59] <ev> I'll give it a go when I'm back in the office tomorrow
[14:59] <ev> thanks
[15:00] <superm1> sure.  bug 722198 seems to agree with the behavior i saw too, albeit it's logs aren't very verbose so it's hard to know for sure
[15:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 722198 in ubiquity "Ubuntu installation lags" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722198
[15:01] <superm1> or if /proc/cmdline is a pain to modify - preseed ubiquity/force_failsafe_graphics to true, it will get the same result
[15:03] <ev> going to run through an install now to see if I can reproduce the hang
[16:09] <ev> seems to work fine, webkit bug aside
[20:40] <stgraber> ev: is it possible for an ubiquity plugin to use apt_pkg ? I'm getting a weird failure with a new plugin that's using it and I'm wondering if there could be some weird locking going on
[20:41] <stgraber> ev: the plugin is just using it to query the cache and get a list of packages based on that
[20:42] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/570245
[20:43] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/570246/ is the plugin
[20:43] <stgraber> basically I'm using apt_pkg to get a list of meta packages and all their recommends/depends to then build a treeview from that
[21:15] <superm1> stgraber, try doing it with raised privileges.  i saw something quite similar in a mythbuntu plugin and that fixed it
[21:15] <superm1> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-dev/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-live-autostart/view/head:/ubiquity/plugins/myth-drivers.py
[21:15] <superm1> get_graphics_dictionary goes into nvidia-common code and eventually uses apt_pkg too
[21:15] <superm1> something something side effect about permissions getting dropped /me thinks
[21:17] <stgraber> ok, I'll try that
[21:23] <stgraber> seems like it did the trick, code is failing somewhere else now but that's my fault ;)
[22:13] <stgraber> ev, cjwatson, superm1: How can I read/modify the package blacklist in ubiquity ?
[22:22] <superm1> stgraber, the simple way to modify the what happens is to use install_misc.mark_install / install_misc.record_installed / install_misc.record_removed
[22:23] <ev> stgraber: the blacklist that's used to avoid copying files that would otherwise ultimately be removed?
[22:31] <stgraber> ev: yeah, edubuntu will show a list of educational packages that are installed in the live session and let the user opt-out by unticking them in a list
[22:33] <stgraber> superm1: yep, looks like what I wanted, thanks
[22:38] <stgraber> superm1: do you happen to know what the "recursive" parameter is for ?
[22:40] <superm1> it's passed to get_remove_list
[22:41] <superm1> i think causes packages that would otherwise be broken do the removal to also be removed
[22:41] <superm1> there might be another side effect though, i don't recall off hand
[22:43] <stgraber> seems like something I should set to true
[22:46] <superm1> curious when you present this data to the user with checkboxes to remove them, are you going to be using the package name or a more user friendly name?
[22:47] <superm1> in the mythbuntu roles plugin we dwelved with this a little bit, but in the end it was too much data in the user's face.  they didn't understand well what the ramifications were for what they were doing
[22:47] <stgraber> I'm showing both package name and short description
[22:48]  * stgraber is going back home