[03:33] <dantalizing> anyone awake?
[03:34] <jk-> technically
[03:34] <jk-> but it seems to be a two-coffee morning, and I've only had one
[03:36] <dantalizing> its too late at night to be morning
[08:46]  * smb fetches #2
[08:52]  * apw yawns
[08:52] <smb> apw, Morning
[09:08] <smb> cking, If you did not "hear" a good morning, your mumble is broken. :)
[09:10]  * cking gives it a kick
[09:15] <cking> smb, mumble failed again?
[09:26] <apw> i think smb's router needs rebooting at midnight
[12:17] <apw> bah i hate Qt already
[12:55] <ogra> apw, do you have to add new Qt bits to the kernel now ?
[12:56] <apw> ogra, heh thankfully not ... trying to figure out why mumble is broke on natty
[12:56] <ogra> lol
[12:56] <apw> finally annoyed me enough to try and fix it
[12:56] <ogra> i think we all did already 
[12:56] <ogra> and all of us gave up :P
[12:56] <apw> wondering if it is actually a unity related issue
[12:57] <ogra> (at least everyone i talked to up to now had at least one mumble prob)
[12:57] <apw> or perhaps even a qt library issue
[12:57] <ogra> might be compiz, yep
[12:57] <apw> we seem to have asked for the input events, but they are not getting delivered
[12:57] <ogra> try using std. gnome and metacity and see if it fails there too
[12:58] <apw> is there a way to switch live?  i know unity does temporarily when resetting
[12:58] <ogra> hmm, no idea, i usually do it at gdm
[13:02] <amitk> apw: what is the problem? my mumble doesn't read my hotkey anymore
[15:04] <novice27> hi. i am through with all the wiki bug triaging pages. but i am not getting from where to start? how to pick a bug and from where? please suggest.
[15:16] <apw> novice27, hiya, our main trige guy is off today, he would be the best person to help you
[15:16] <apw> novice27, but mostly we start with the 'New' bugs on the 'linux' package
[15:17] <apw> which one can find on launchpad
[15:17]  * apw drops to reboot, in the vein hope that the unity update will help ... i am sick to death of it crashing
[15:18] <novice27> apw: okiez.. thanks... but i dont know how to start practically. but let me check the page :)
[15:20] <apw> novice27, forgot to mention, his irc nick is jFo
[15:20] <novice27> apw: thanks... :)...
[15:21] <novice27> apw:  i want to get into kernel development.. i have decided to start with bug triaging.. can u please some more?....
[15:22] <novice27> apw: *suggest
[15:24] <apw> novice27, we usually suggest that, looking at bugs and gets you to see what areas there are, and what intrests you
[15:24] <apw> and in trying to solve them, which tends to happen with ones you are interested about, you tend to learn new things
[15:24] <apw> which help you as you start to find bugs and write fixes
[15:26] <novice27> apw: do i need to read books on linux kernel programming?
[15:27] <apw> it depends how you find it as you go, some people just read the code around an issue and pick it up that way
[15:27] <apw> its personal preference
[15:27] <apw> reading a book on it is usually interesting, but they do tend to be out of date
[15:30] <novice27> apw: ya.. they are of 2006 edition... i will start with the isues then and try them. thanks for help...:)
[15:36]  * apw whines about unity, impotently
[15:52] <BigRedS> What's the difference between HIGHMEM4G and HIGHMEM64G (besides the '6')? Why would one choose just the 4?
[15:58] <mjg59> Beacause enabling PAE means you take a performance hit
[16:00] <BigRedS> But both are PAE aren't they?
[16:02] <mjg59> No
[16:02] <mjg59> You can access 4G without PAE