[05:06] <idi0tf0wl> hello folks...
[05:06] <idi0tf0wl> is anyone around to answer a question?
[07:20] <dpm> good morning all!
[07:37] <idi0tf0wl> hi
[07:37] <gtriderxc> hi
[07:37] <idi0tf0wl> i'm glad someone's here
[07:38] <idi0tf0wl> or multiple someones...
[07:38] <idi0tf0wl> anyhow
[07:38] <idi0tf0wl> question:
[07:38] <idi0tf0wl> every now and again i come across typos and other errors while i'm translating things on launchpad
[07:38] <idi0tf0wl> how do i submit changes to the original english strings?
[07:39] <gtriderxc> You should report a bug
[07:39] <idi0tf0wl> oh
[07:39] <idi0tf0wl> errors in the source strings, i should have said
[07:39] <idi0tf0wl> really?
[07:39] <gtriderxc> yes
[07:39] <idi0tf0wl> well alright, then
[07:40] <gtriderxc> you just report a bug and then someone correct the mistake
[07:40] <idi0tf0wl> thanks!
[07:40] <idi0tf0wl> i suppose i will begin doing that, then
[07:40] <gtriderxc> i always do
[07:40] <gtriderxc> cause there are lots of 'em
[07:40] <idi0tf0wl> i feel like there should be something a  bit more intuitive for it
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> 'cause you're right
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> there are lots of them
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> and it's important
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> thanks again
[07:41] <gtriderxc> if You make a few reports
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> i'm going back to that now
[07:41] <gtriderxc> You will find it intuitive:)
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> ?
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> peace people
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> tata
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> good to know
[07:41] <idi0tf0wl> ha
[07:42] <gtriderxc> ;)
[08:07] <andrejz> morning!
[08:08] <TLE> good morning
[08:08] <andrejz> we made a pdf about how to start translating in launchpad - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6183401/Uvod%20v%20prevajanje%20v%20Launchpadu.pdf If anyone wants to do something similar for his team, let me know i can can give you original .odt file
[08:09] <andrejz> basically you can use the images and structure, but need to rewrite the text
[08:11] <gtriderxc> thanx
[08:12] <gtriderxc> the greatest problem however is
[08:13] <andrejz> dpm, you here ? i am running 11.04 and noticed transmission is not translated (version 2.13 in natty). Is this to be expected? I know firefox is not supposed to be translated yet, is the same true for transmission too ?
[08:13] <gtriderxc> that people steel kee on coming to Launchpad
[08:13] <andrejz> @gtriderxc: kee?
[08:13] <dpm> morning andrejz, TLE, gtriderxc
[08:13] <gtriderxc> and  waste their time translating thing which are not translated on launchpad
[08:14] <dpm> andrejz, I haven't been using transmission for a while, let me check...
[08:14] <gtriderxc> for example people come to launchpad and translate k3b on firefox
[08:16] <andrejz> different teams have different workflow, but yes.. that happens occassionally for us as well (but less and less often since upstream is getting better translated  - about 1 package per cycle)
[08:24] <TLE> hey, any germans around
[08:24] <gtriderxc> only half Germans:0
[08:26] <TLE> good enough, I forgot from my school german, is there both a small and capital version of the double s "ß" letter in the german alfabet?
[08:26] <gtriderxc> no
[08:26] <TLE> great
[08:26] <gtriderxc> SS is only for small
[08:26] <TLE> thanks, that is just what I wanted to know
[08:26] <gtriderxc> ;)
[08:27] <TLE> The gnome guys decided to use a new font as default without making sure that it had all the letters needed
[08:27] <gtriderxc> :/
[08:27] <TLE> So I was just checking that it had the special danish letters, though I might as weel check for swedish, norwegian and german while I was at it
[08:42] <andrejz> @TLE: where can one check that ?
[08:43] <TLE> andrejz: I downloaded the ttf files and opened them with fontforge
[08:43] <TLE> just a sec I'll find the link to the files
[08:43] <andrejz> great
[08:44] <TLE> http://git.gnome.org/browse/cantarell-fonts/plain/ttf/Cantarell-Regular.ttf
[08:45] <TLE> http://git.gnome.org/browse/cantarell-fonts/plain/ttf/Cantarell-Bold.ttf
[08:45] <andrejz> thx
[08:45] <TLE> someone just answered my email, I'll quote:
[08:45] <TLE> More languages are. From [1]:
[08:45] <TLE> Each font file currently contains 391 glyphs, and fully support the
[08:45] <TLE> following writing systems: Basic Latin, Western European, Catalan,
[08:45] <TLE> Baltic, Turkish, Central European, Dutch and Afrikaans.
[08:46] <TLE> I don't know if that covers yours *G*
[08:47] <andrejz> you can add that it also covers slovenian
[08:47] <andrejz> i just checked
[08:49] <andrejz> if there is such a list somewhere
[08:50] <TLE> I think the homepage of the project is here: http://abattis.org/cantarell/
[08:50] <TLE> I just saw the thread on gnome-i18n and wanted to check for Danish, I don't know if developers listen in
[08:50] <andrejz> ok thanks
[08:50] <TLE> so you might want to write them (must be a link somewhere on the homepage) and tell them
[08:50] <andrejz> probably i will get it at 1 pm since i get batch mail
[08:51] <andrejz> ok, will tell them, thanks TLE
[08:51] <TLE> np
[15:16] <askhl__> Hi.  Can anyone tell me how to see whether a source package (such as gedit or coreutils) has automatic imports (from GNOME or TranslationProject)?  The motivation for this question is that I would like to know which modules I have to manually upload translations for from upstream
[15:22] <dpm> askhl_, at this point, I cannot tell you for sure, as the LP squad working on translations is still developing the UI to allow setting up upstreams for automatic imports. I think the best thing might be to ask henninge ^
[15:22] <askhl_> dpm: thank you
[15:22] <dpm> np :)
[15:23] <askhl_> do you know roughly for which modules automatic imports are enabled as of now?  E.g. whether there are any at all
[15:36] <dpm> askhl_ I'd say roughly the GNOME modules in main, but the Launchpad people should be able to tell you best
[15:37] <dpm> askhl_, in any case, even for those which haven't got automatic imports enabled yet, translations should be imported through package uploads (i.e. "the old way") as usual
[15:37] <dpm> so you shouldn't have to resort to manual uploads unless there is a problem with importing translations
[15:43] <askhl_> dpm: I've always found that if I don't manually push the translations, there's a high probability that nobody will.  Also on TP, most translators commit only the version they translate and don't merge/commit for the previous versions.  This means while the newest one might be at 100%, that is of little use if ubuntu branches the second-newest.
[15:48] <andrejz> hello dpm! Have you found out anything about transmission translation status in natty?
[15:50] <dpm> andrejz, no, sorry, I got disconnected and then sidetracked. Let me do this now... :)
[15:53] <dpm> it seems that the transmission.mo file is shipped with the language packs correctly, and that _some_ translations are loaded, but all of the interface is in English
[16:20] <andrejz> @dpm: could this be some sort of bug?
[16:21] <dpm> andrejz, it might well be. Looking at the code, the template seems to build fine and translations are mostly up to date
[16:22] <dpm> so I'm not sure what's going on
[18:00] <Gwaihir> hello folks, does anybody know if the import queue is stuck? or is it only huge and it needs time to importa a manually uploaded po?
[18:02] <askhl_> Gwaihir: I know of a po-file which was imported ~12 hours ago
[18:02] <Gwaihir> askhl_ when did you import it?
[18:03] <askhl_> Gwaihir: it was imported by someone (not me) within the last two days I think
[18:03] <askhl_> Could be 24 hours ago
[18:03] <Gwaihir> ok, automatically imported maybe... well I uploaded one po yesterday night and is approved right now, but usually the queue was faster
[18:04] <askhl_> No, it was a manual import
[18:04] <Gwaihir> ok, cool
[18:04] <askhl_> Give it another 24 hours
[18:05] <Gwaihir> will do :) have nothing else I can do to speed it up :)
[18:06] <askhl_> yeah, it would be nice if the system said "hey, someone manually clicked several buttons to start this import, maybe it's important to get it done right away"
[20:58] <alex__> Hi All - quick question about .desktop keys if anyone can help...
[21:00] <alex__> Does anyone know if the X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain key needs to go in the [Desktop Entry] section, or can it go anywhere?