[01:52] <chibihogoshino> how do i show join parts ?
[02:07] <vychune> hello
[02:09] <chibihogoshino> hi
[02:11] <vychune> how doing
[02:11] <chibihogoshino> meah ..
[02:11] <chibihogoshino> no anime to watch
[02:12] <chibihogoshino> waiting for nest weeks releases
[02:12] <vychune> ikr
[02:12] <vychune> conan for me
[02:13] <chibihogoshino> conan ?
[02:13] <chibihogoshino> the barbarian ?
[02:13] <vychune> detective
[02:13] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[02:13] <chibihogoshino> is that still going ?
[02:14] <vychune> yep since 1994
[02:14] <vychune> lol
[02:14] <chibihogoshino> ouch
[02:15] <chibihogoshino> anything over 50 eps is to much
[02:16] <vychune> lol
[02:19] <chibihogoshino> yeah.. its true..
[02:19] <chibihogoshino> look at all the good anime and how long the series is
[02:19] <vychune> dbz?
[02:19] <chibihogoshino> thats not that good
[02:19] <chibihogoshino> popular dosnt = good
[02:21] <vychune> i like it
[02:21] <chibihogoshino> ef a tale of memories, air, clannad, bastard, cowboy bebop, elfin lied ..
[02:21] <vychune> but yu yu was good
[02:23] <chibihogoshino> i couldnt get into it
[02:23] <EricG> hey everyone
[02:23] <chibihogoshino> hey EricG
[02:24] <vychune> o/
[02:24] <chibihogoshino> what is o/ ?
[02:26] <vychune> waving
[02:27] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[02:28] <EricG> anyone seen netritious lately? had something to ask him, was hoping he would be in
[02:28] <vychune> anyone seen linuxman
[02:29] <chibihogoshino> i haven't
[02:29] <chibihogoshino> with both people
[02:29] <vychune> k
[02:36] <wrst> anyone seen santa claus lately i need to talk with him too :)
[02:36] <chibihogoshino> i shot him when he tried to brake into my house
[02:40] <wrst> darn chibihogoshino ;)
[02:41] <chibihogoshino> i didnt know it was him. he a a ninja suit on
[02:48] <wrst> hate it when he does that
[02:49] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[02:49] <chibihogoshino> to bad the damn elves have his dna and just clone him
[02:50] <wrst> ha ha
[03:05] <vychune> lol
[09:28] <cyberanger> WOAH, ericG stopped by and I missed it
[09:28] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: what's up?
[13:17] <wrst> morning everyone
[13:18]  * cyberanger wonders if wrst is off or at work
[13:18] <wrst> oh no i'm at work cyberanger
[13:18] <cyberanger> this isn't a holiday for you?
[13:20] <cyberanger> that's a little suprising
[13:21] <cyberanger> but not really a day off here
[13:21] <wrst> no pretty much we just get the big ones,
[13:21] <wrst> sadly i'm not a govt employee, or is that happily that I'm not :)
[13:22] <cyberanger> well, banks are closed too
[13:22] <cyberanger> and I thought the schools, but I might be off on that one
[13:22] <wrst> yeah they are about like the govt
[13:22] <wrst> they were scheduled to be off here but its a makeup day since we ran through all 13 snow days
[13:24] <cyberanger> ah, kinda fits what I thought here
[13:26] <cyberanger> kinda a ripoff for the kids here, some of the snow days were wasted on poor calls
[13:27] <cyberanger> only to rob them of a day they were promised off
[13:27] <wrst> well kinda appeared that in this county but we have part that's lower eleveated and part on the plateau
[13:37] <cyberanger> and it's not a split school district is it
[13:37] <cyberanger> around here, there is similarites, and some differences
[13:38] <wrst> no all the same just the county
[13:38] <cyberanger> but I can see if they really had a snow day, doing what they did
[13:38] <cyberanger> to some extent
[13:38] <cyberanger> but when they call it wrong, it's just worse
[13:39] <cyberanger> every year they call one, apply salt, just to wash it off the road
[13:39] <cyberanger> pointless
[14:40] <vychune> o/
[16:33] <cyberanger> hey vychune and orias
[16:33] <vychune> o/
[16:41] <cyberanger> ugh, more network issues today
[16:41] <cyberanger> I think the cable modem has bit the dust
[16:58] <vychune> lol
[16:58] <orias> :(
[17:04] <cyberanger> the issue is so intermittent, hard to see where the issue is
[17:04] <cyberanger> 3 routers, 3 cat5 cables, 1 cable modem
[17:04] <vychune> that sucks
[17:04] <cyberanger> issue isn't the lan
[17:05] <cyberanger> our cable modem, or somewhere in the isp's system
[17:05] <vychune> bad cable from the router?
[17:06] <cyberanger> from the router out possible
[17:06] <Svpernova09> cyberanger: what's the intermittent issue? Latency spikes to DC? or just latency?
[17:06] <cyberanger> but I'd see the odds against it
[17:06] <cyberanger> without a trigger, root cause
[17:06] <cyberanger> vs an aging modem or outdoor cable
[17:07] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: not latency, but bandwidth
[17:07] <cyberanger> reduced so low their dhcp server isn't getting through
[17:07] <vychune> damn
[17:07] <Svpernova09> So you're getting disconnected and you can't get dhcp from them?
[17:08] <Svpernova09> dhcp or t3 timeouts in the modem log?
[17:08] <cyberanger> well, it's not a clear disconnect
[17:08] <cyberanger> and the modem is too dumb for any real log
[17:08] <cyberanger> or at least their limit
[17:08] <Svpernova09> Any cable modem in use these days should have at least an error log.
[17:08] <Svpernova09> But the reason I ask is I had a similar issue
[17:08] <Svpernova09> Only got it resolved by hassling comcast everyday for 2 weeks, 3 techs
[17:09] <Svpernova09> They finally sent a maint. crew to hte node in my area.
[17:09] <cyberanger> these days go back to 04 or 05
[17:09] <Svpernova09> I got a call the next day, was an issue at the node.
[17:09] <cyberanger> yeah, I suspect something along those results
[17:09] <Svpernova09> Have htem come out and test from modem -> wall, then wall -> outside like, then outside -> pole if they haven't already.
[17:09] <Svpernova09> That'll eliminate bad cable.
[17:09] <cyberanger> but the cable modem has taken abuse too
[17:10] <Svpernova09> I actually ran a fresh cable just to be sure.
[17:10] <cyberanger> and it's to the pole, or others would also complain further up the street
[17:11] <vychune> well looks like you got this nova so im leaving for work
[17:11] <cyberanger> lol, enjoy the commute vychune
[17:12] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: I've narrowed it enough to know it's an isp matter from here
[17:12] <cyberanger> but that's between my folks and them
[17:12] <Svpernova09> Yeah, hte trouble is usually getting the ISP to recognize that.
[17:14] <cyberanger> annoyingly
[17:16] <cyberanger> hey pace_t_zulu
[17:17] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: between my backup options, and the bits of bandwidth I have, IRC is fine at least
[17:17] <pace_t_zulu> hey cyberanger
[17:19] <cyberanger> hey pace_t_zulu, sorry about the meeting, a few things happened, none of which was helpful
[17:19] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: its ok
[17:20] <cyberanger> I'm glad one person was on it
[17:20] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: in the future, would there be a way for you to pass word along?
[17:20] <cyberanger> so thank you for that
[17:20] <cyberanger> ideally, yes, but granted one part of the mess was an ISP issue, not alot of options
[17:20] <cyberanger> what'd you have in mind?
[17:21] <pace_t_zulu> email or text just to pass word along
[17:23] <cyberanger> more likely, I'd try to pass an email so the meeting can run with or without me, since it did need to happen, if I was in Cleveland, I'd have just gone to a hotspot to run it
[17:23] <cyberanger> no cell phone here, or email
[17:23] <cyberanger> just landline and the isp (with issues)
[17:23] <cyberanger> since I'm at my folks
[17:24] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: I'll figure out some better options
[17:25] <cyberanger> somehow
[17:27] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: the main thing the meeting was about is I noticed that memphis aside, the other regions have no plans, and it'd be nice to have some long term plans
[17:27] <cyberanger> and that's unfortunate since it's a criteria for our application
[17:28] <cyberanger> I know middle tennessee has more members now, not sure what east tennessee has, I'm southeast and not really mobile for evening events in knoxville like I was
[17:29] <pace_t_zulu> yea, we can try to pick things up in middle tn
[17:29] <pace_t_zulu> east tn is still an issue
[17:29] <cyberanger> we have two members in knoxville, and linuxman410 can't really travel beyond morristown
[17:30] <cyberanger> not sure how to fix that issue, since to  some extent it's a low membership issue
[17:31] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: btw, middle tennessee has some mailing list intrest, and a nlug affilated member requests planning in advance to notify them
[17:31] <cyberanger> so I'd like to hope middle and west tn can take off
[17:33] <cyberanger> and east tn too, just not sure of how
[18:26] <cyberanger> cable modem actually seems a little smarter than expected, gave out a class c address, in rfc1918 space
[18:26] <cyberanger> 192.168.100.10
[18:27] <cyberanger> and the modem has some login page, not documented
[18:27] <techMiles> interesting.
[18:28] <cyberanger> went outside (cell coverage isn't ideal for this, but a homeade antenna quickly fasioned, and line of sight, it is working for this)
[18:28] <cyberanger> and logged on, gonna look for any ambit info I can find, ugh
[18:29] <cyberanger> maybe I'll find log details
[18:29] <cyberanger> I know it's an isp issue, not sure what level of proof I can show, unfortunately
[18:32] <cyberanger> this isn't an ideal week, but with my dad out of the house, haiti mission trip, leaving my mom and me, it could be worse for her, least technical in the house
[18:32] <techMiles> yeah
[18:33] <cyberanger> and my dad is more ham radio than networking, but he'd understand the issue too, at least enough to where I could explain the remaining bits
[18:33] <techMiles> yeah
[18:33] <techMiles> my cousin is like that. He doesn't have too much detailed knowledge on certain things, but enough to where I can explain and he gets the fill-in bits
[18:35] <cyberanger> and I grabbed alot of my gear (it's small enough, important peices are a netbook repurposed as a router, with the rest being usb devices, like the celluar data card, 56k dial up modem, and 2nd ethernet card (left that, but the cable modem has that covered, ethernet over usb)
[18:35] <cyberanger> not really overpacking, just force of habit, proves useful too damn much, just like it is again this trip)
[18:36] <techMiles> I know the feeling
[18:36] <cyberanger> unfortunately I also left my switches power supply, but enough here is wifi, the remaining bits can be overlooked for a week
[18:37] <cyberanger> but without the intent to run the home network here, I've got all the peices to keep it running with cable failing here
[18:39] <techMiles> lol
[18:39] <cyberanger> in june, I was travelling with family, had a boost mobile phone, iden (nextel) model, tethered at 20kbps max, enough for IRC
[18:39] <techMiles> geeze
[18:39] <techMiles> hardcore. :P
[18:40] <cyberanger> at that time, I didn't have enough on my custom install for the network at RIT, used a Radius server on the wifi
[18:41] <cyberanger> and what's funny, I could have done a few things to get it working (the simpliest would have been grabbing a livecd, and this was a Foss Convention, didn't have to look hard)
[18:41] <cyberanger> but idk why I just let it be
[18:41] <cyberanger> so my whole trip in Rochester, NY was on 20kbps celluar
[18:42] <cyberanger> before that, I was in Manchester, CT (outside hardford)
[18:42] <cyberanger> and they had an AT&T Uverse supplied router, with wep
[18:42] <cyberanger> didn't know the password, or where they may have put it
[18:43] <cyberanger> under 5 minutes, I handed them THEIR password, and was connected
[18:43] <cyberanger> it was an odd trip, reminded me, there's no place like 127.0.0.1
[18:47] <techMiles> cyberanger: yeah that's what happens. why in hell did they use WEP?
[18:47] <cyberanger> beats being open
[18:47] <cyberanger> they used stock settings
[18:48] <cyberanger> AT&T was giving them some nice stock settings
[18:49] <cyberanger> considering they weren't putting a sign up saying, "Free WiFI Here, All welcome"
[18:53] <cyberanger> but yeah, my Aunt had wep, and I had 5 minutes (and consent)
[18:53] <cyberanger> and my Grandma had no connection, but I did
[19:03] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: found the logs
[19:03] <cyberanger> managed to login
[19:03] <cyberanger> didn't forsee some of the login combos
[19:06] <cyberanger> T2 T3 and T4 Timeout, DHCP WARNING,
[19:06] <cyberanger> definately a mess
[19:08] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: I'm unaware of the T2, T3 and T4 timeout errors, understand the majority of the others, appears to be upstream for sure
[19:08] <cyberanger> any of that helpful, helpful how?
[19:10] <Svpernova09> My issue was with comcast,so the t3 errors were likely unique to them, but what it may indicate is an internal routing issue of their dhcp
[19:28] <cyberanger> well, it's logged in my modem
[19:29] <cyberanger> appears seperate from the DHCP errors
[19:29] <cyberanger> and the T2 & T4 Timeout errors
[19:29] <cyberanger> let alone other errors I understand as errors for charter
[19:29] <cyberanger> or your case comcast
[19:29] <cyberanger> modulation errors
[19:30] <cyberanger> all point to a physical issue
[19:37] <cyberanger> maybe a quality bit
[22:58] <cyberanger> succumbed to it's wounds, it seems
[22:59] <cyberanger> and some say Redundancy is a bad ;-)