[00:00] <Rman> leave
[00:01] <ardchoille> jbsoum: right click your panel, choose "add to panel". In the list of panel applets, choose what you want, but y ou want to add the Notification Area applet at least
[00:01] <bc81> jbsoum: killing xchat will get the icon back (that seems like a bug, where the panel eats the icon when killed)  all your shortcuts are gone (that is the whole point of resetting to default)
[00:02] <_Nash> Does anyone know why an AMD processor would be "AMD Processor model unknown" under both 10.04 and Win7?
[00:02] <ardchoille> bc81: yeah, I've seen that bug myself
[00:02] <edbian> bc81, jbsoum The xchat icon might come back if you add 'notification area' to the panel
[00:02] <Starminn> edbian: If memory serves me right it's there by default
[00:02] <edbian> Starminn, ahhh, perhaps
[00:02] <ardchoille> Starminn: good point
[00:03] <Starminn> edbian ardchoille: :)
[00:03] <bc81> removing then adding notification area, may restroe xchat icon ?
[00:03] <bc81> restore*
[00:03] <jbsoum> ok i messed with xchat settings and got it back, thanks guys
[00:03] <jbsoum> i unchecked enable system tray and clicked ok, then reenabled
[00:03] <edbian> bc81, It's worth a shot.  Stopping and restarting xchat is more likely
[00:04] <daniel> good morning
[00:04] <jbsoum> but, im wondering what caused my panel to get messed up in the first place?
[00:04] <ardchoille> jbsoum: define "messed up".
[00:04] <ardchoille> Maybe someone can help you avoid that in the future
[00:05] <Starminn> ardchoille: (06:45:14 PM) jbsoum: hey all, im having an issue with my panel. it seems everytime i boot up the icons end up missing, displaying incorrectly, or are in the wrong place. any thoughts?
[00:06] <ardchoille> ouch
[00:06] <jbsoum> lol i was typing that again, thanks starminn lol
[00:06] <ardchoille> not sure why that would happen
[00:06] <jbsoum> nor am i
[00:06] <Starminn> jbsoum: :)
[00:06] <Starminn> jbsoum: By the way, that happened to me a while back to. Running "killall gnome-panel" (which was part of the command you ran) fixed it for good it seems.
[00:07] <Reallycool> how do I change the tty resolution?
[00:07] <ardchoille> jbsoum: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:07] <bc81> jbsoum: do you lock things in place on your panel?
[00:07] <jbsoum> oh wow, for good huh? well i hope thats the case. quick question Starminn, do you run compz fusion? bc81, no, should i? ardchoille, 10.10
[00:08] <Mikazuki_Neko> ##roleplay
[00:08] <Starminn> jbsoum bc81: Locking didn't fix it when it happened to me. Only thing that helped was resetting it.
[00:08] <Starminn> jbsoum: Yes, I do.
[00:08] <ardchoille> jbsoum: it's a good idea. right click each applet and choose "Lock to panel" when the applet is where you want it. Thanks bc81
[00:08] <comeback89> close
[00:10] <jbsoum> ok, ill try the locking, just in case, Starminn, i also run compiz and i was wondering if it was the cause of my problems. but if that one reset fixed everything for you, then im hopeful
[00:10] <detrix42> I need some help figuring out why my system plays flash video just fine, but any video I play with vlc, or movie player, I get no video, just sound. I have the restricted driver installed.  acually the video does work once in a while, so I am not sure whats causing it to not work.
[00:10] <jbsoum> ill try locking stuff to my panel, anyway
[00:10] <hoss> Anyone hear when p67 boards are getting re-released?
[00:11] <edbian> detrix42, run this and then try: sudo metacity --replace&
[00:12] <ohsix> sudo???????
[00:12] <ardchoille> edbian: don't need sudo for that
[00:12] <ohsix> you don't want to run your window manager as root
[00:12]  * IR9288 SantiagoOz
[00:13] <edbian> ardchoille, mmm, thanks
[00:13] <detrix42> edbian: that had no effect
[00:13] <edbian> ohsix, thanks
[00:13] <edbian> detrix42, The video did not play either way?
[00:13] <detrix42> edbian: same thing, audio, not video.
[00:13] <SantiagoOz> Hi everyone
[00:13] <mbvpixies78> what's the safest topology for my home network--  Motorlolla DSL forwarding PPPoE negotiations to Linksys router to which 3 linux and 2 win boxes are attacked?
[00:14] <ardchoille> mbvpixies78: you mean "attatched"?
[00:14] <edbian> detrix42, I'm not sure then :(  sorry!
[00:14] <elementz> hi all. i am absolutely confused. i want to change the scrollingspeed of my mouse. but where is the right location to do so? if i properly understand it, xorg.conf is the wrong place now. should i use evdev? and if yes, how would i do it?
[00:14] <elementz> maybe somebody can point me to a proper location?
[00:14] <detrix42> edbian: thanks for trying
[00:15] <edbian> elementz, system -> preferences -> mouse   ;)
[00:15] <Starminn> edbian: I thought the same thing and looked but I don't see it.
[00:15] <edbian> Starminn, elementz mmmm, true.  I'll google it :)
[00:15] <ardchoille> elementz: as edbian pointed out, go to General tab and look at "Pointer Speed"
[00:15] <edbian> ardchoille, That's not scrolling speed
[00:16] <elementz> i don't want to change mouse speed
[00:16] <ardchoille> ah, sorry
[00:16] <elementz> yep
[00:16]  * ardchoille hasn't had his chai yet :(
[00:16]  * Starminn hands ardchoille some chai
[00:17] <ardchoille> hehe, thanks Starminn !
[00:17] <elementz> this really is an annoying issue in ubuntu.
[00:17]  * elementz sighs
[00:18] <jeffreyf> This may be a bit off topic, but I was wondering if anyone has heard of a USB to WIRELESS to USB?  Need to connect an all in one network ready printer, but only printer is available over wireless.
[00:18] <doomrobo> I am having a really difficult time completely removing kde from my ubuntu installation. Can anybody help me out.
[00:18] <Guest55970> can anybody heah tell me whats the best javascript ide editor
[00:18] <makaveli0129> please i need somebodies help with zoneminder i'm in about a week now and still can't figure this thing out can someone help me?
[00:19] <ardchoille> !puregnome | doomrobo
[00:19] <makaveli0129> guest55970, i use eclipse
[00:19] <Guest55970> how did you install eclipse
[00:19] <makaveli0129> guest55970, synaptic
[00:20] <doomrobo> I've seen it but it uninstalls some programs I need
[00:20] <doomrobo> like all qt related programs
[00:20] <ardchoille> doomrobo: kde is built using the qt toolkit
[00:20] <Starminn> doomrobo: What I had to do was adjust the programs by hand. Remove/install via Software Center
[00:21] <Starminn> doomrobo: Unfortunately I couldn't find a better way after quite some time Googling around.
[00:21] <doomrobo> that's unfortunate
[00:21] <doomrobo> I should have thought twice before dabbling in KDE
[00:22] <edbian> doomrobo, (it's really not a huge deal if you have some packages left over)
[00:22] <CkhiKuzad> !unity
[00:22] <KucukMubasir> hi guys, I am trying to kill gdm by typing "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" but I get "stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call" etc. in return
[00:22] <KucukMubasir> what might be the problem?
[00:23] <CkhiKuzad> ._. What would I have to do to install Unity? Like what would I need to install
[00:23] <aeon-ltd> KucukMubasir: no idea, but what about running it with sudo?
[00:23] <KucukMubasir> I did aeon-ltd
[00:23] <KucukMubasir> oh wait
[00:24] <ardchoille> gdm is a service. so shouldn't it be "sudo service gdm stop" ?
[00:24] <edbian> CkhiKuzad, sudo apt-get install unity
[00:24] <edbian> CkhiKuzad, You should try google first next time
[00:24] <CkhiKuzad> Edbian, I've tried both using Apt and Google.
[00:25] <KucukMubasir> wow it worked aeon-ltd , thanks
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> hey guys is there a cli image uploader like pastebinit please?
[00:25] <CkhiKuzad> Just tried it again, E: Could not find package unity
[00:25] <KucukMubasir> ardchoille: that is equivalent to mine
[00:25] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: it's not in your repos
[00:25] <pixartist2> hi
[00:26] <edbian> CkhiKuzad, sudo apt-get unity didn't work?
[00:26] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: are you on Ubuntu 10.10?
[00:26] <CkhiKuzad> I am on 10.04
[00:26] <ardchoille> that's why
[00:26] <pixartist2> I need help upgrading ubuntu via ssh console
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> KucukMubasir: heh, but that might actually be a problem that could pop up later
[00:26] <CkhiKuzad> Well what Repositories do I need to get Unity?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[00:26] <KucukMubasir> aeon-ltd: , such as?
[00:27] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: try this http://digitizor.com/2010/05/10/how-to-install-unity-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[00:27] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip I already tried upgrading via sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:27] <edbian> pixartist2, sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[00:27] <pixartist2> and now ssh won't start
[00:27] <CkhiKuzad> Anright thanks ardchoille
[00:27] <pixartist2> and it's a virtual dedicated server
[00:27] <CkhiKuzad> alright**
[00:27] <lloyd-ggggggg> I can't get my microphone to work  on my laptop through the analogue input.  When the microphone is plugged in, instead of capturing sound from my microphone, it captures sound from my audio.  THis is a headset plugged into my laptop
[00:28] <KucukMubasir> how may I reboot from command line now?
[00:28] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: hold on, don't do that one
[00:28] <pixartist2> so I can still start in repair mode, but I don't know how to fix ssl/scp
[00:28] <KucukMubasir> oh reboot
[00:28] <KucukMubasir> sudo reboot
[00:28] <CkhiKuzad> I just started, but I C-Ced it.
[00:28] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: here are some tutorials http://tinyurl.com/4u7rrra
[00:28] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip any idea?
[00:28] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: That one I linked earlier has an update stating the tutorials doesn't work anymore
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: do you mean to go to the next release?
[00:29] <pixartist2> I did sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:29] <pixartist2> so I guess it installed the latest
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: what release are you currently on?
[00:29] <pixartist2> I can't check, no ssh :D
[00:29] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: Keep in mind that the unity that is based on mutter is slow, the one based on compiz is much faster but they're still a work in progress
[00:29] <CkhiKuzad> -.- I'll just do it myself, apparently "RTFM" or "Google it" functions as a perfectly legitimate answer now. Thank you so much.
[00:29] <pixartist2> the repair console is on 8.04
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: so how are you running the commands?
[00:30] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip which commands ? it WAS on 8.04
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: you may need to edit the file mentioned in the upgrade notes, use the server method
[00:30] <makaveli0129> i need somebodies help with zoneminder i'm in about a week now and still can't figure this thing out can someone help me?
[00:31] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip I don't know how to do that/which file, I'm pretty much a linux newb
[00:31] <ardchoille> CkhiKuzad: well, to be honest, if you had done some research you wouldn't have had to ask here. Much of the time our answers involve us googling for you.
[00:31] <gohan4748> www.uscellur.com
[00:31] <CkhiKuzad> Well how do I install the one based on Compiz? Or should I just google that too, rather than asking for some help?
[00:31] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip Also I did not see any upgrade notes
[00:31] <bustedup277> So I am trying to download 10.10, but it just crashes every time I try. I select my language as English then click Forward, then it says I meet all the requirements, and then I click forward. Then my cursor turns into a loading circle, but it never stops loading. I close the installiation, and a crash report comes up.
[00:31] <bustedup277> Then it says this: http://img820.imageshack.us/i/screenshotafn.png/
[00:31] <bustedup277> Read what it says in the image. What does this mean? Why did it crash? How can I fix this? I try to report the problem but it does not work. Help.
[00:31] <bustedup277> Highlight me if you want to reply
[00:32] <coraxx> bc81: xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update didn't work :-(
[00:33] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip I upgraded with sudo do-release-upgrade, rebooted, and now I can't access the server via SSH when I boot the upgraded OS, I can only access the files via repair mode, which is a seperate instance of ubuntu on version 8.04
[00:33] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip so I absolutely don't know how to get ssh running again just by modifying files and rebooting
[00:33] <bc81> coraxx: as i said, i don't know how to fix it, was just giving you general info.  did you try unchecking that and logging out/in?  possibly that is what is preventing the folders' locale names from being updated
[00:34] <theperfecttaco> Can anyone help with a grub rescue problem?
[00:34] <bc81> coraxx: but, re-ask your question, mabe someone else who just logged in can help you
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: your network hardware may not work so well in the new kernel
[00:34] <bc81> !anyone | theperfecttaco
[00:34] <gohan4748> www.yahoo.com
[00:35] <coraxx> bc81: I will ... (I was just updating you in regards to my finding with your suggestion) ...your attempt was aprreciated :-)
[00:35] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip well, what exactly does that mean ? :( The support guy said, that it's technically possible to do what I did, but he can't give me support for any other version than 8.04
[00:35] <gohan4748> www.yahoo.com
[00:35] <coraxx> hey all... a question ... when you have logged in to Ubuntu in a different language and you've by accident chosen "Update names" (the home directories names) ...and you want to change them back to the original English...how is that done ? anyone ?
[00:35] <bc81> coraxx: got it ;-) thanks for keeping me posted, i hope you find the answer
[00:36] <Macstheyjustsuck> When I plug in my PSP, it shows up in "Computer" but doesn't show up on the desktop and I can't open it or anything
[00:36] <bustedup277> Anyone have a fix? I posted it on the forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692008
[00:36] <mbvpixies78> ardchoille:  sorry, was away--  setting up home network topology to maximize protection for Win comps and Linux web server, yes, attached..  not skilled enough to wardrive even my own computers
[00:36] <coraxx> bc81: :-) me 2
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: the new kernel will have different modules (well the same ones compiled for the new kernel) and your network hardware may not work with it, this is called a regression
[00:37] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip how can I fix that?
[00:37] <ardchoille> mbvpixies78: ah, ok, you wrote attacked and I was puzzled :)
[00:37] <gohan4748> www.yahoo.com
[00:37] <ardchoille> gohan4748: please stop that
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> pixartist2: could try a liveCD to see if it works, the it will be the upgrade making it screwy. personally I always clean install to get the next release
[00:38] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip It's a virtual dedicated server, I can't access it
[00:39] <bc81_> Macstheyjustsuck: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP for some info
[00:39] <ardchoille> nice nick :)
[00:39] <bustedup277> Wow, no one helps me
[00:39] <ardchoille> bustedup277: not everyone knows every answer
[00:40] <jrib> bustedup277: I might have if I had read your question repeated just then instead of your complaint, oh well
[00:40] <doomrobo> I give up
[00:40] <doomrobo> I'm not uninstalling KDE
[00:40] <doomrobo> no matter how much space it takes (a lot)
[00:40] <ohsix> o noes
[00:40] <mbvpixies78> ardchoille:  hah, yeah, sometimes I do want to attack my computer, but usually only Windows
[00:40] <zachlr> is there a webapp version of the dig command?
[00:41] <bustedup277> :-/
[00:41] <makaveli0129> can anyone help me or no?
[00:41] <pixartist2> ActionParsnip do you recommend reinstalling the server and reverting back to 8.04 ?
[00:41] <ohsix> doomrobo: you can keep the programs you use installed
[00:41] <jrib> makaveli0129: we cannot help you if we do not know what you are asking about.
[00:41] <doomrobo> I don't use any KDE programs, per sei
[00:41] <makaveli0129> i'm trying to configure zoneminder
[00:41] <jrib> !who | doomrobo
[00:42] <bustedup277> I just get to the second screen of the installation and then it crashes, I have no clue why
[00:42] <bc81_> bustedup277: so you are trying to download an ubuntu iso?
[00:42] <bustedup277> No
[00:42] <jrib> makaveli0129: that's not a question.  Are you just looking for zoneminder documentation?
[00:42] <bustedup277> I'm running ubuntu right now
[00:42] <[thor]> bustedup277: so you stopped parted while it was attempting to scan your partitions, and you are wondering why it gave you an error?
[00:42] <makaveli0129> jrib, i keep getting the same display on all channels no matter what i try
[00:42] <doomrobo> @jrib I'm not talking to anyone in particular
[00:42] <doomrobo> just into the wind
[00:42] <jrib> bustedup277: run "check the cd for defects" first
[00:42] <jrib> doomrobo: well no one cares if you use kde programs or not
[00:42] <bustedup277> jrib where can i do/find that?
[00:42] <mbvpixies78> Can anyone walk me through my options with 4 computers (1 win, 1 linux web server, 2 linux boxes) linksys router, AT&T Motorolla DSL modem and a switch if needed?  I'm looking to maximize protection of win and linux web server, but still allow web server to be accessed from internet obviously
[00:42] <jrib> bustedup277: it should be one of the first options when you first boot up the cd
[00:42] <makaveli0129> jrib, i've searched google and all zoneminder documentation to no solution still nothing works
[00:42] <bustedup277> And I am on a USB
[00:42] <doomrobo> @jrib, you win
[00:43] <bustedup277> [thor]: what are you talking about?
[00:43] <Starminn> !find zoneminder
[00:43] <bradg> bustedup277: How long do you let the installation load before giving up and exiting? It can take several minutes to load.
[00:43] <jrib> !verify | bustedup277
[00:43] <[thor]> bustedup277: the error is the partition manager..
[00:43] <bustedup277> i have no idea what that is
[00:44] <doomrobo> why doesn't screen support scrolling?
[00:44] <bustedup277> perhaps i should let it load a little longer this time
[00:44] <jrib> doomrobo: it does
[00:44] <[thor]> :/
[00:44] <segin> noname29
[00:44] <makaveli0129> jrib: any idea?
[00:44] <[thor]> bustedup277: just walk away for a half hour
[00:44] <[thor]> hehe
[00:44] <bustedup277> ok
[00:44] <mbvpixies78> or doe it not matter that much?
[00:44] <jrib> makaveli0129: I've never used zoneminder
[00:44] <bustedup277> i will go try to solve my rubix cube, ha ha, just tried to start the installation
[00:44] <doomrobo> @jrib, I'm sorry. That sounded ignorant. What I meant to say was. Does screen support scrolling and if so, how?
[00:44] <bustedup277> be back soon, ill say if it works or not
[00:45] <jrib> doomrobo: shift-page up
[00:45] <makaveli0129> can anyone help me with zoneminder?
[00:45] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: That didn't help
[00:45] <jrib> makaveli0129: just ask your specific question
[00:45] <makaveli0129> or does anyone know of any other software for security camera's on linux?
[00:45] <bradg> bustedup277: Okay. It may not. I just remember it taking 5 or 6 minutes to finally move forward when I installed.
[00:45] <bc81_> Macstheyjustsuck: what specifically didn't help
[00:45] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: Also, the PSP shows up in Computer, just won't let me go into it and it doesn't show up on the Desktop like it did when it worked
[00:46] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: The troubleshooting steps
[00:46] <makaveli0129> jrib: i just posted it i'm getting the same picture on all four channels of my card regardless of what settings i use....
[00:46] <gohan4748> www.att.com
[00:46] <jrib> makaveli0129: yes, I'm saying for you to just ask that instead of the more general (and less productive) "can anyone help me with zoneminder"
[00:46] <aroman> hello, ive installed apache2 from apt, and I would like it to stop starting at bootup. how can I do this? thanks
[00:46] <ardchoille> gohan4748: please stop spamming useless urls here
[00:47] <dataviruset> i'm trying to install ubuntu 10.04.2 with pendrive linux "universal usb installer", but i can't get DHCP working in the installation interface with my pcie-gigabit nic, what to do? ;(
[00:47] <jrib> aroman: use sysv-rc-conf (install it)
[00:47] <doomrobo> @jrib, It's Ctrl-A+[ to enter copy mode and Esc to escape
[00:47] <bc81_> Macstheyjustsuck: you tried a different USB port?  it worked before?
[00:47] <jrib> doomrobo: you can just use shift-page up and shift-page down to scroll, you don't need to enter copy mode
[00:47] <aroman> jrib: whoa
[00:48] <doomrobo> @jrib it doesn't work for me
[00:48] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: It worked on the USB port it was on, then I took it off like I usually do when it's charged, came back, plugged it back in, it says it's in USB mode and it shows up in Computer, and it just didn't work right after that
[00:48] <jrib> aroman: ?
[00:48] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: I did try other USB ports
[00:48] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: And I've confirmed that all of the USB ports worked
[00:48] <aroman> jrib: this thing is awesome =) but what are the numbers are the top?
[00:48] <bc81_> Macstheyjustsuck: you reboot the PC, and/or the PSP?
[00:48] <jrib> aroman: maybe I'm just using my terminal then.  You are probably right.
[00:48] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: Both after it didn't work and neither fixed it.
[00:49] <jrib> aroman: I haven't used screen for a while (switched to tmux)
[00:49] <bc81_> Macstheyjustsuck: sorry dude, i have no idea :(
[00:49] <Macstheyjustsuck> bc81_: sadface
[00:49] <aroman> jrib: uh, I think you mis-pinged me
[00:49] <gohan4748> #linode
[00:49] <_Nash> Forgive my noobiness, but how would I make a disk image of a Ubuntu build with a few programs/tweaks on it so I can use that instead of the distro itself?
[00:49] <jrib> doomrobo: maybe I'm just using my terminal then.  You are probably right.  I haven't used screen for a while (switched to tmux)
[00:49] <ardchoille> jrib: when you get a chance, can you do something about gohan4748? that is the 5th time he has spammed useless urls/chammels. I've asked him twice to stop, might be a bot.
[00:50] <jrib> ardchoille: ok, thanks
[00:50] <ardchoille> yw
[00:50] <doomrobo> @jrib, any particular reason u switched?
[00:51] <bc81_> Macstheyjustsuck: old thread, but maybe some relevant info there: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770743
[00:51] <jrib> doomrobo: I don't remember exactly.  Originally, there was something not working for me in screen, I gave tmux a try, and it worked great so I stuck with it
[00:51] <dataviruset> when i try to use my new installed nic, it just says "send_packet: network is down" when i try to run dhclient eth1
[00:51] <dataviruset> what can i do?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> dataviruset: does the interface have a driver?
[00:53] <Tidz> hm, does ubuntu use vesafb by default?
[00:53] <ardchoille> Thank you sir :)
[00:53] <dataviruset> ActionParsnip: i don't know if i need one... ubuntu "finds" the nic and doesn't say anything about it. it's a server
[00:53] <Pseudonym> Hi. I have a morality question. I have a machine on which I wish to run my own server. What is the recommended way to do this? Just put something in /etc/init.d?
[00:53] <cyberjunk502> is there any downloader for ubuntu like Internet download manager
[00:54] <jrib> !upstart | Pseudonym
[00:54] <makaveli0129> does anybody know a good deal about zoneminder?
[00:54] <Pseudonym> Excellent!
[00:54] <jrib> makaveli0129: stop doing that.
[00:54] <Pseudonym> Thanks jrib, that's exactly what I want.
[00:54] <Tidz> I suppose I'd need to recompile in order to use uvesafb with ubuntu 10.10?
[00:55] <makaveli0129> jrib: well you don't know about it so i'm seeing if anybody else does since i haven't gotten any response yet
[00:55] <jrib> makaveli0129: but just ask your actual question
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> dataviruset: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network | less      you will see what's going on
[00:55] <makaveli0129> jrib: i just did that as well......
[00:56] <makaveli0129> jrib: i'm still not getting any responses and at this point i am frustrated i have been dealing with the same problem for about 2 weeks now
[00:56] <bc81_> cyberjunk502: there are some: MultiGet, FatRat, Uget, Kget etc.  search the Software Center
[00:57] <ardchoille> makaveli0129: It's quite possible that everyone active now doesn't have the proper answer.
[00:57] <ohsix> cyberjunk502: try tucan too, it's nice
[00:57] <Diamondcite> makaveli0129: I know squat about zoneminder, but which aspect is giving you trouble?
[00:57] <cyberjunk502_> is there any downloader for ubuntu like Internet download manager for windows
[00:58] <bc81_> cyberjunk502: there are some: MultiGet, FatRat, Uget, Kget etc.  search the Software Center
[00:58] <ardchoille> ohsix: wow, tucan supports a lot of hosting sites
[00:58] <ohsix> ardchoille: a good amount, yea
[00:58] <Diamondcite> makaveli0129: If you answer everything, then most users will run away :)
[00:58] <ohsix> i like it because it's all go and no crap
[00:58] <makaveli0129> Diamondcite:  i have it all configured and it works for video0 channel 0 but everything i add past that for instance video0 channel 1 2 or 3 it is the same picture on those channels
[00:58] <ardchoille> cyberjunk502: tried gwget?
[00:59] <ardchoille> ohsix: nice
[00:59] <ohsix> ardchoille: it uses tesseract for captchas and stuff
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502_: fatrat maybe
[00:59] <Diamondcite> makaveli0129: Do you see multiple /dev/video# ? How are the cameras connected? Since I'm assuming they are generic USB cameras and not some new fangled camera system...
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502_: uget too
[00:59] <ohsix> i don't think cyberjunk502 is even listening at the moment
[00:59] <cyberjunk502_> ardchoille: i have tried uget and gwget but both seems to give slow speed
[00:59] <realjoe> hi, does mdadm support hotplugging and auto raid rebuild?
[00:59] <makaveli0129> Diamondcite: it's a single card with four inputs and i've configure bttv options so that it works properly for my respective card
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502_: it will only come down as fast as the source can upload
[01:00] <ohsix> realjoe: udev does the assembling, and no rebuild is auto :P
[01:00] <makaveli0129> Diamondcite: everything i search online i've tried all the options, i've also tried posting on zoneminders forum still nothing
[01:00] <makaveli0129> Diamondcite: no it's connected via a pci card
[01:00] <goguda> Hey guys... I am trying to compile a script using scons, and every time I try, I get the error: sh: arm-elf-gcc: not found. scons: *** [arch-arm/iPhone3GS_entry.o] Error 127. scons: building terminated because of errors.
[01:01] <cyberjunk502_> when i download something with package manager it gives full speed but with uget it never past 30KB/s
[01:01] <extra11> :)
[01:01] <cyberjunk502_> my connection full speed is 250KB/s
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502_: possibly the server you are getting updates from is physically closer than the servers you are downloading stuff from??
[01:01] <realjoe> ohsix what do you mean by udev assembling it?
[01:02] <ohsix> goguda: you don't have a compiler that targets arm-elf-gcc installed
[01:02] <ohsix> realjoe: "hot plug"
[01:02] <cyberjunk502_> i had windows 7 previously which gave me 250KB/s
[01:02] <goguda> ohsix, Ok. What can I do to get that?
[01:02] <bc81_> cyberjunk502_: net speed is independant of the OS
[01:02] <ardchoille> ohsix: just noticed gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi in the repos. would that help goguda ?
[01:03] <goguda> I'll give it a try :)
[01:03] <cyberjunk502_> actionparsnip: it happens for every site i download from
[01:03] <realjoe> ohsix so ubuntu will recognize the hdd automatically and I can add it to md0, but adding a device to md0 no matter if preexisting or hot plugged needs manual intervention`?
[01:03] <ohsix> ardchoille: might, who knows; chances are you need to build your own or use a toolchain blob
[01:03] <ardchoille> goguda: It's just a guess, and see what ohsix just said
[01:04] <cyberjunk502_> bc81: i know that but it happens
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502_: what network chip are you using?
[01:04] <goguda> ohsix: The tutorial I am following isn't too specific, it just says "compile toolchain" which I have no idea how to do that...
[01:05] <ohsix> goguda: a peripheral iphone project or the toolchain that's in common use will be somewhere
[01:06] <goguda> ohsix: I'm lost. I found a file called build-toolchain.sh... I'm guessing it has something to do with that?
[01:07] <ohsix> goguda: no idea, could be; there should be a readme or something like it to tell you how to get started, or a pointer to another project that maintains the toolchain
[01:07] <goguda> ohsix: I'll look for a readme.
[01:08] <bonez2046> is there any applet/template/tool/procedure list that prints envelopes simply, without much trial and error?
[01:09] <cyberjunk502> let me get this straight suppose i am downloading a deb file from  package manager it gives speed like 100 -150 but the same file downloaded form uget or gwget gives 30KB/s Why?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502: no idea, what network chip are you using?
[01:09] <cyberjunk502> realtek
[01:09] <Rask> Simple and quick-like... if I'm building a new machine and I want it to be as painless as possible to linux it... nVidia or ATI?  :)
[01:10] <goguda> ohsix: Found the readme :). Looks a lot simpler to follow than the online tutorial. I think the guy who wrote the tutorial didn't really know how to speak english...
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502: ok, realtek make at least 5 chips I can think of easily, can you narrow it down?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502: have you disabled ipv6 too, assuming you don't use it
[01:10] <ohsix> cyberjunk502: try that with a different mirror; they probably throttle connections that don't have a certain user agent, to favor package upgrades from the OS
[01:10] <cyberjunk502> actionparnish: yes i have disabled ipv6
[01:11] <ohsix> goguda: people writing tutorials generally don't know what they're doing, english or not :P it's an ill conceived set of steps they sort of made do with, then immediately saw the need to write it down
[01:11] <cyberjunk502> ohsix: thank you
[01:11] <goguda> ohsix: I think you're right ;). This readme is making so much more sense... I can't believe I didn't even THINK of the readme file before.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502: what realtek chip are you using?
[01:12] <Starminn> !cookie | ohsix
[01:12] <azizLIGHTS> does the vpn server need ports forwarded or does the vpn client need ports forwarded or both?
[01:12] <cyberjunk502> actionparsnip: i cant tell you which realtek chip i am using because i am not a home right now
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502: then you need to find out using: sudo lshw -C network; lsusb     and you can find out
[01:13] <cyberjunk502> Actionparsnip: i am using different Pc
[01:13] <quietone> In my home is directory, 'www'. If I 'cd ~/Desktop; ls ..' the directory www is not listed. www is a link to another partition, I have other links to directories on that partition and they are listed. What am I missing? Ubuntu 10.10
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> cyberjunk502: me too, I'm at work and have SSH'd to my server to then use irssi to IRC ;)
[01:14] <bustedup277> I have waited 35 minutes and my installation is still frozen and my cursor is still a loading circle
[01:14] <bustedup277> nothing has happejed
[01:14] <bustedup277> brag [thor] any solutions?
[01:14] <bustedup277> bradg *
[01:15] <Rask> Quick question - for a new system running Kubuntu, ATI or nVidia?  Given that my luck is absolutely horrendous, which is the safest choice?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Rask: either
[01:15] <bc81_> quietone:try maybe  ls -a
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Rask: I always shoot for nvidia
[01:16] <droidftw> how do i install libreoffice i cant find it in the software center
[01:16] <Rask> Hmm
[01:16] <ohsix> Rask: notebook? the intel cards are pretty ok
[01:16] <bustedup277> just highlight me if you have any solutions people. the problem is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692008 i will be off for a bit
[01:16] <jkg> droidftw: it's still called OpenOffice in software centre (at least, here; when did the name change?)
[01:16] <Rask> ohsix: Desktop.
[01:16] <quietone> bc81_, same result - it is not listed, the directory is www not .www
[01:16] <droidftw> no its not made by oracle i think
[01:17] <NinjaJeff> How can I get information about a package before downloading it?
[01:17] <xangua> droidftw: wait until natty or download it from libreoffice.org
[01:17] <jkg> oh it's a fork, my mistake.
[01:17] <droidftw> xangua: i did but when i click on it, it just opens the folder it doesnt install
[01:17] <awayup277> i do not know why it is doing this, it did this on a differet laptop also
[01:17] <ohsix> Rask: ati has free drivers available, so they'll get better in the future and keep up with sweeping graphics changes up and down the stack, but nvidias are pretty good now, but can cause hitching and generally muddle realtime stuff on the machines where its used
[01:18] <ohsix> Rask: and nouveau is progressing
[01:18] <Rask> ohsix: What is hitching?
[01:18] <bc81_> quietone: i dont understand, you said: "In my home is directory, 'www'. If I 'cd ~/Desktop; ls ..' the directory www is not listed.  why cd Desktop, if the folder you're loooking for is in your home directory?
[01:18] <NinjaJeff> Does ATI have anything like CUDA?
[01:18] <ohsix> Rask: long pauses that keep other things from running in a timely manner, important for audio and can really be annoying otherwise
[01:19] <Rask> hmm.
[01:19] <Rask> ohsix: I'm not a high-demand user, really, I just want Compiz to run smoothly.  Which would be better?
[01:19] <ohsix> NinjaJeff: not like the language, though i think they came up with one; but they've had gpu processing on their stuff before nvidia did, and last time i checked it was "better", at least with folding and some of the projects that can use either
[01:20] <ohsix> Rask: i dunno, my portables are intel; when i did use nvidia on my 8800gtx a long time ago, it wasn't working great with compiz, but i'm sure that's changed since
[01:21] <jack_> Rask: nvidia
[01:21] <jack_> is better
[01:21] <yenn_2001> alguien en espa;ol
[01:21] <Starminn> droidftw: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-LibreOffice-in-Ubuntu-10-10-and-Ubuntu-10-04-177762.shtml
[01:21] <bc81_> quietone: where is the partition mount point
[01:21] <joljam> my sdcard cannot be detected. I am using ubuntu lucid
[01:21] <droidftw> starminn: thank you
[01:21] <dataviruset> ActionParsnip: it says that the NIC is disabled
[01:22] <quietone> bc81_, the reason why I discovered this oddity are long gone. I merely want to know why 'ls' appears to be misbehaving
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Rask: nvidia have a LONG history of supporting Linux
[01:22] <ohsix> jack_: ehhhhh
[01:22] <ohsix> a long history of a blob that taints your kernel
[01:22] <jack_> ohsix: Rask: i had to go out and purchase an nvidia card because the ati support is garbage
[01:22] <quietone> bc81_, /
[01:22] <ohsix> jack_: thatsux
[01:22] <iflema> !es | yenn_2001
[01:23] <x_root> testing ,This is
[01:23] <ohsix> jack_: where you using radeon radeonhd or gatos, or whatever the other crappy projects in the periphery there were
[01:23] <Rask> Hmm
[01:23] <Rask> Ok, thanks (:
[01:23] <jack_> radeon x5950 (i think)? the last card before the hd series
[01:23] <ohsix> that was a hard card to get
[01:23] <x_root> This is my first time to use irc !Thank you
[01:24] <Starminn> droidftw: I couldn't find this a moment ag so sorry. This is the same tutorial I  used and it works beautifully: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
[01:24] <Starminn> a moment ago*
[01:24] <jack_> yeah it was backordered right after i purchased it. the ati drivers cant be installed in ubuntu anymore. the opensource ones work for compiz but it was really glitchy. also, it wouldnt allow me to play wow
[01:24] <jack_> if you search my name on the ubuntu forums you'll find many posts about it heh
[01:24] <ohsix> right, i believe you
[01:24] <bradg> bustedup277: Is it possible to install from a different medium? When I tried installing 10.10 (64-bit) on my laptop with a CD-R it failed and gave a weird error that I can't recall. There were a few complicated fixes, but the easiest solution was to just use a DVD instead. Just a thought. Otherwise I got nothing. :-/
[01:24] <ohsix> was hard to get and also new
[01:25] <ohsix> it's kind of a waste on linux, too; i'd have a whole other pc just for games to put that in
[01:25] <jack_> agreed
[01:25] <jack_> i ended up getting a semi-decent nvidia card that plays wow really well using hte open-source drivers
[01:25] <ohsix> i'm thinking about 30-60$ card that are last last gen but work great
[01:26] <ohsix> with nouveau? nice
[01:26] <aeon-ltd> ohsix: it wouldn't happen to be the nvidia 9 series would it?
[01:26] <jack_> i dont think its nouveau. they module says 'nvidia' but i haven't installed anything 3rd party.
[01:27] <jack_> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] (rev a2) <my card. works great.
[01:27] <awayup277> bradg: my netbook does not support cds
[01:27]  * mickster04 has gtx460 and is happy
[01:27] <aeon-ltd> mickster04: wallet too?
[01:28] <mickster04> aeon-ltd: well the whole PC cost about 1200NZD
[01:28]  * ActionParsnip has 6150LE onboard and is fine
[01:28] <mickster04> :D
[01:29] <jason_fn> guys, when in Firefox address bar i type "wiki en" it goes directly to english wikipedia. When i type same thing in Chromium, it sends me to google :-D. how do i make Chromium work same way?
[01:29] <jack_> jason_fn: i think you can right click to setup your search bar
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> jason_fn: possibly an extension
[01:29] <jack_> jason_fn: right click the awesomebar and click 'edit search engines'
[01:29] <jack_> is that what you're looking for?
[01:30] <aeon-ltd> jason_fn: thats a 'i'm feeling lucky' type search you need that instead of regular google
[01:30] <jack_> infact, in my browser, i type (for example) '%w ubuntu' and it searches wikipedia for ubuntu
[01:30] <michael138> hello
[01:30] <jason_fn> thx guys, i'll try all above :-P
[01:31] <jack_> michael138: hi
[01:31] <michael138> hay my computer is closing out one game after only 3 or so mins
[01:31] <jack_> michael138: which game?
[01:31] <bc81_> michael138: check your screensaver settings
[01:32] <michael138> armagetron advance
[01:32] <jack_> michael138: if you run it from the terminal, do you see any error messages?
[01:32] <michael138> ill try that
[01:33] <lostinit> any one know any general channels to go to..dont want to clog up a good channel with non computer chat
[01:33] <aeon-ltd> lostinit: offtopic chans?
[01:33] <bc81_> michael138: besides screensaver, it might be compiz related: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021384
[01:34] <jack_> lostinit: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:34] <oneliner> #defocus #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:34] <lostinit> thanks
[01:34] <ohsix> jack_: k not the open source driver then
[01:35] <jack_> ohsix: i suppose not. i dont remember installing anything after install though. let me check
[01:35] <ohsix> jack_: jockey could do it, but the drivers are also in the repos
[01:35] <jason_fn> aeon-ltd, can i make this feeling lucky like default options?
[01:36] <michael138> it didt show any
[01:36] <aeon-ltd> jason_fn: yes you can make it your first choice
[01:36] <jack_> yeah im using propeitery. i its checked on in hardware drivers.  i think it was auto-on by default. i dont remember turning it on.
[01:36] <michael138> it still shut down
[01:37] <jason_fn> aeon-ltd, so that it will work right from address bar?
[01:37] <bc81_> michael138: um...how about those screensaver settings...and what about that compiz?
[01:37] <aeon-ltd> offtopic slightly - but if google is so focussed on speed why isn't i'm feeling lucky default?
[01:38] <bc81_> aeon-ltd: probably because if they take you straight to a page, you might miss out on some of their delicious advertisements ;-)
[01:38] <xangua> aeon-ltd: you said it, offtopic ;)
[01:38] <michael138> k iam new to it so whats compiz and how do i get to my screen saver
[01:38] <Roasted> Rhythmbox isn't detecting any music on my sandisk media player, but there's about 7gb worth. Oddly, it'l pick up some music, but only the music on the micro sd card within the sandisk player - it doesn't recognize the onboard storage. Any ideas?
[01:38] <bc81_> michael138: System >> Preferences >> Screensaver
[01:38] <jack_> michael138: compiz are the desktop effects.
[01:39] <ohsix> i'm feeling lucky does what it's on the button, not everyone feels lucky
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> jason_fn: this might help http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=1dd75d14c52c044c&fid=1dd75d14c52c044c00045d01c2e2bc2b&hl=en
[01:39] <amh345> can anyone recommend a decent and simple media application for watching movies and listening to music?  preferably something that takes alot of formats?
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> amh345: vlc?
[01:39] <xangua> ahs3: mplayer, vlc
[01:39] <ohsix> and if everyone went immediately to the first result they couldn't place the order of the first page of results
[01:39] <jason_fn> aeon-ltd thank you a lot -)
[01:39] <Starminn> amh345: The default works fine, does it not?
[01:40] <xangua> !ot > ohsix
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> amh345: gnome-mplayer
[01:40] <aeon-ltd> amh345: personally i like it separated, media managers suck imo
[01:40] <ohsix> ubottu: i ignore all private messages
[01:40] <ohsix> o noes
[01:40] <amh345> separated is fine with me.
[01:40] <amh345> ill grab VLC for my vids
[01:40] <bc81_> Roasted, did you enable the MTP plugin (assuming your player is MTP)?
[01:41] <Roasted> bc81_, It recognized my player about an hour ago, but I changed some music on it, and now it sees nothing. So it saw it previously....
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> amh345: all players can play all formats as there is a central repository of codecs in the OS
[01:41] <bc81_> Roasted: suggestions, restart rythmbox, and/or remount your player
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> amh345: if one can play a format, so can the others. I recommend you install both as they will pull in a lot of codecs
[01:41] <Roasted> bc81_, been there. :(
[01:41] <amh345> ActionParsnip: i had some issues playing iso videos and .vobs
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> amh345: also add the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs as well as ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:42] <Roasted> bc81_, only thing I havent done is turn the thing off and back on... let me try that
[01:42] <amh345> ActionParsnip: thanks. will do!
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> amh345: vlc and mplayer can play them as file, just use the file menu
[01:42] <bc81_> Roasted: good idea, maybe it hasn't updated it's internal media library yet
[01:44] <jvargas> hi
[01:45] <amh345> im running ubuntu server.. and the command line use to have nice small fonts.  then i installed ubuntu-desktop and all the fonts in terminal are huge.  what the heck happened?
[01:45] <jvargas> how do I remove samba from startup? I already performed update-rc.d but it doesn't works.
[01:45] <Roasted> bc81_, no dice, but under import errors it has 2 .SYS files that were listed. "The MIME type of the file could not be identified."
[01:46] <uRock> amh345, have you installed graphics drivers?
[01:46] <Starminn> amh354: You could just try changing the Temrinal fonts. Edit->Profile Preference
[01:46] <Starminn> Preferences*
[01:46] <Jayro> hey, do youi guys think dualbooting on a 250gb HD is ok?
[01:47] <Jayro> its a netbook
[01:47] <amh345> uRock: originally it was just default.  then when i got the desktop i enabled my nvidia restricted driver
[01:47] <Starminn> Jayro: What is your concern about it? not having enough space?
[01:47] <Jayro> yeah
[01:47] <Jayro> wait
[01:47] <Jayro> nvm
[01:47] <Jayro> im stupid., lol.,
[01:47] <uRock> Jayro, you have plenty of space for a quintiple boot
[01:47] <mickster04> Jayro: well i would recommend keep all your music oin the windows partition, giving ubuntu the smaller partition
[01:47] <Starminn> Jayro: :)
[01:48] <uRock> *quintuple
[01:48] <SodaPhish> anyone know if libjavaplugin_jni.so works as a javaplugin in firefox?
[01:48] <Jayro> if i already have windows installed, can i shrink the partition without fucking up windows?
[01:48] <mickster04> Jayro: ntfs?
[01:48] <uRock> !language
[01:48] <mickster04> Jayro: and which windows?
[01:48] <Jayro> windows 7
[01:48] <SodaPhish> uRock: don't be such a wuss
[01:48] <Jayro> starter
[01:48] <mickster04> Jayro: probably then uhm, back up your data anyway :p
[01:49] <bc81_> SodaPhish: obeying the rules of the channel does not make anyone a wuss
[01:49] <Jayro> hahaha :P
[01:49] <doomrobo> .
[01:49] <SodaPhish> Jayro:download system rescue cd and use it to resize the partition up-front.
[01:49] <SodaPhish> defrag first.
[01:49] <steiner> what is the best networked fps?
[01:49] <SodaPhish> bc81_: whatever you gotta tell yourself bro.  troll elsewhere though, 'cause its boring.
[01:49] <mickster04> !best
[01:50] <uRock> SodaPhish, quit harrassing people
[01:50] <SodaPhish> steiner: try uranterror
[01:50] <bc81_> SodaPhish: you should keep your remarks to yourself, unless they are support related. thank you
[01:50] <mickster04> SodaPhish: you tell someone else not to troll? a clever troll indeed
[01:50] <steiner> excuse me, what is the most popular and widely used fps?
[01:51] <SodaPhish> steiner: I say UrbanTerror
[01:51] <SodaPhish> but watch out, its addictive.
[01:51] <mickster04> !ot | steiner
[01:51] <daniel> hey i am trying to download sbf flash and isntall it From this website http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/05/sbfflash.html
[01:51] <SodaPhish> /ignore uRock all
[01:51] <SodaPhish> /ignore bc81_ all
[01:51] <SodaPhish> mmm... feels good man
[01:51] <aperson> SodaPhish↳ you're not helping anyone here
[01:52] <daniel> but it just shows up as a lego peice and wont let me install it
[01:52] <SodaPhish> aperson: actually, I'm helping steiner... he's asking about fps
[01:52] <Senjai> !ops
[01:52] <SodaPhish> I was telling him about UrT
[01:52] <mickster04> SodaPhish: that's off topic for this channel
[01:52] <SodaPhish> how's that?  he's asking about first person shooters in Ubuntu... this is #ubuntu...
[01:52] <SodaPhish> wow.
[01:52] <mickster04> Senjai: yeah, mayb don't do that
[01:53] <mickster04> SodaPhish: this is a help channel, he doesn't need help, he wants an opinionn
[01:53] <aperson> SodaPhish↳ game advice is not on topic for this channel
[01:53] <SodaPhish> wow, fuck this... #ubuntu has gone the way of the raving homo channel.  seeya fags.
[01:53] <goguda> ohsix: I tried to follow the steps to making the toolchain, but right at the very end I get the error: Failed to apply patch for t-arm-elf (stage: gcc_patch)
[01:53] <Flannel> Sure it is.  It's not the best sort of question to ask here (because its purely an opinion), but it's ontopic enough.
[01:53] <Roasted> Rhythmbox isn't detecting any music on my sandisk media player, but there's about 7gb worth. Oddly, it'l pick up some music, but only the music on the micro sd card within the sandisk player - it doesn't recognize the onboard storage. Any ideas?
[01:54] <Roasted> <3 tsimp
[01:54] <joljam> I am getting the  message "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" when  use sudo fdisk -l
[01:54] <Senjai> Thanks tsimpson
[01:54] <Flannel> Senjai: You instigated it in the first place.
[01:54] <ohsix> goguda: if the patches dont apply you might have to track down specific versions
[01:55] <daniel> can anyone tell me how to install this file from "http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/05/sbfflash.html"
[01:55] <goguda> ohsix: O.o
[01:55] <daniel> i run ubuntu 10.10
[01:56] <Roasted> nice, and banshee is crashing right away when I open it
[01:56] <aperson> Roasted↳ notsomuch a solution, but I hear clementine is the bees knees
[01:56] <daniel> Roasted, hey i had the same problem i spent over 2 hours with a guy trying to figure it out and we couldnt i suggest just use rythmbox
[01:57] <t-rask> Hi there, I'm having a problem with Audacity that I just can't figure out. I'm working on a song, but for some reason (out of nowhere, apparently) whenever I hit "Play" it only plays about 1.5 seconds or so, and a green arrow shows up above my track where it stops. I can't figure a way out around this, though I'm sure it's something simple? (I already asked in #audacity)
[01:57] <Roasted> daniel, rhythmbox doesn't even DETECT my music on my sandisk player. Yet it did an hour ago. Not sure why this program is being a brat.
[01:57] <Roasted> daniel, I just want to set up playlists. I thought this would be easy.
[01:57] <joljam> I am getting the  message "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" when  use sudo fdisk -l in ubuntu lucid
[01:58] <aperson> daniel↳ you just have that area selected, IIRC
[01:58] <daniel> Roasted, i have had no problems with rythmbox have u tried formating the scandisk?
[01:58] <I3ision> i'm having trouble installing Last Chaos using play on linux, it stops half was threw an wont install. any solutions?
[01:58] <daniel> aperson, what are ya talking about
[01:59] <slipp3d> if i'm getting told that 'KVM is not available' and i need to check and see if kvm is installed ... what package am i looking for?
[01:59] <aperson> daniel↳ sorry, highlighted the wrong person :S
[02:00] <daniel> does anyone know how to install a file called "sbf_flash" its from this website http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/05/sbfflash.html
[02:00] <goguda> t-rask: Try changing the sample rate around until it works. I had the same problem.
[02:00] <Roasted> daniel, nevermind. it looks like banshee is working. I may just use this. rhythmbox has always kinda peed me off with some things.
[02:01] <t-rask> goguda, even though it was working just fine a minute ago?
[02:01] <gorolol> hello pplz
[02:01] <ohsix> Roasted: is the mtp plugin enabled?
[02:02] <Roasted> Ohsix how do I figure that ou?
[02:02] <goguda> t-rask: Yes. I'm not sure why it does this, but I had the exact same problem. After several hours of searching, I found that solution, and it worked for me.
[02:02] <ohsix> Roasted: in the menus theres a "Plugins..." entry
[02:03] <Roasted> ohsix, yep, its enabled
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> daniel: yu link TELLS you
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> yu == your
[02:03] <ohsix> Roasted: that's queer, it should work then
[02:03] <t-rask> goguda, how do I change the sample rate? I have a pretty basic understanding of Audacity, not much more.
[02:03] <ohsix> Roasted: you might be able to see more info about plugging it in and what is going on in the output of dmesg (run it in a terminal just after unplugging it and plugging it in)
[02:04] <nixjr> ive just located the source of my disk shortage issues, a file called .xsession-errors is 52gb, can i safely delete it?
[02:04] <ohsix> nixjr: yes
[02:04] <goguda> t-rask: I don't have audacity installed right now, but from what I remember, all you have to do is go to edit->preferences... and there should be a drop down menu somewhere in there.
[02:04] <ohsix> nixjr: but don't, yet
[02:04] <ohsix> nixjr: theres a reason its 52gb, find out what it is; it's some app spamming error messages
[02:05] <nixjr> ohsix, im affraid if i try and open it, itll freeze my system up cause of the size
[02:05] <ohsix> nixjr: use 'less' in a terminal
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: try:  tail -n 15 ~/.xsession-errors
[02:05] <ohsix> then hit end to go to the bottom
[02:06] <t-rask> goguda, I've tried them all, exact same thing. It doesn't actually play any audio, it just advances the marker about a second or so.
[02:06] <nixjr> the tail 15 are all "nsplugin viewer" thats flash right?
[02:07] <ohsix> nixjr: nspluginwrapper, but yes
[02:07] <ohsix> nixjr: nspluginwrapper suxx, you should give the native plugin a shot
[02:07] <ecinx3> i have sound from a frozen firefox session but i can't find it on system monitor
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: do you use 64bit ubuntu?
[02:08] <nixjr> im very amature at linux, i remember messing about with flash for ages to get it going, i have no idea how to undo all ive done
[02:08] <goguda> t-rask: Check your audio settings and make sure that the sound cards are set to the aproppiate settings, and also make sure that, if you are trying to record, that audio detected recording isn't enabled.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> ecinx3: try: killall pulseaudio
[02:08] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, yes
[02:08] <mickster04> ecinx3: find it in terminal?
[02:08] <ecinx3> i haven't tried in terminal i don't understand top
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: I recommend you use 64bit flash, rather than 32bit flash + nspluginwrapper which is default.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: I'll get you a link. Remove the flash packages you have
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/install-64bit-flash-from-a-ppa-or-deb/
[02:09] <[thor]> ecinx3: don't bother with top, use "ps -A | grep pulse"
[02:09] <mickster04> ecinx3: "ps aux ¦ grep firefox" without quotes and a pipe instead of what I put, the keyboard settings sare a little affected thru putty
[02:09] <ohsix> you can just put the upstream player in the right place too ... no point in using the 3rd party repos as the stuff is still beta
[02:10] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, and this will work for any browser? i use opera not thedefault firefox
[02:10] <Prinler> When i boot my ubuntu 10.10 it always asks for my keyring password. (i forgot this) I was remoted in from work, where i am now, and rebooted after doing some updates. Now i cant relog in due to this. Is there a workaround for this?
[02:10] <ecinx3> thakns killall pulse worked
[02:10] <mickster04> ecinx3: pipe is like ¦ but a block line
[02:10] <mickster04> ecinx3: oh ok
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: sure, should be ok. You can always symlink the plugin to opera's plugins folder if not but it should fly just fine
[02:10] <t-rask> goguda, hm, I changed it from "default" to my Intel card for the audio output, and now the cursor advances and plays the whole way but still no actual audio output?
[02:11] <goguda> t-rask: Weird... are you sure the output is also set?
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> ecinx3: ok then press ALT+F2 and run:  pulseaudio   to restart the sound server
[02:11] <ecinx3> how do i make sure the video stream isn't affecting my bandwidth of that old session?
[02:11] <ohsix> Prinler: not being able to log in is something different from unlocking the keyring, something else happened
[02:11] <Nitrohax> Anyone want to take a crack at a USB problem?
[02:11] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, thanks ill give it a go, if i can figure out how to undo all ive done so far first lol
[02:11] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: pulseaudio automatically respawns
[02:11] <ecinx3> ActionParsnip, it's working and i didn't restart it
[02:11] <bc81_> !anyone | Nitrohax
[02:11] <t-rask> goguda, what do you mean?
[02:12] <Nitrohax> ok then
[02:12] <bc81_> :)
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: i see
[02:12] <goguda> t-rask: There should be two options for sound cards. One that says input, and one that says output. If the output isn't set to the right sound card, it will not work.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> ecinx3: sweet :)
[02:13] <Nitrohax> MoBo ASUS P8P67LE USB support won't work for USB flash drives but everything else like phone, ipod, mouse, keyboards. Got a suggestion?
[02:13] <t-rask> goguda, the one I changed was the output? Output=my speakers.
[02:13] <ecinx3> ActionParsnip, yes thanks ohsix  was right about the respawn
[02:13] <goguda> t-rask: Not really sure what is going on then. Are there any other programs opened that would be using audio?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: when you remove the usb storage from the system, what steps do you take?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: and what filesystem/s do the partition/s use?
[02:14] <yannie> What's the best DVD ripping program available for Ubuntu?
[02:14] <Nitrohax> eject, but it's not even picking them up at all. Even after a restart (cold/hot)
[02:14] <Squarism> theres no end to all damn bits and bytes you can learn.. brain meltdown
[02:14] <Prinler> ohsix, I know what happened, if you dont enter the password for the keyring the wireless will not connect..... no connection to the internet..... that means i cant connect to the box.
[02:15] <Nitrohax> This is happening in all filesystems even on the ubuntu ext3
[02:15] <ohsix> Prinler: oh, well thats different, you can't connect
[02:15] <yannie> Could somebody recommend a DVD ripping program?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: ok when you plug in a non-working device, run:  dmesg | tail    and the output may help
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> yannie: acidrip
[02:15] <t-rask> goguda, nah, I closed everything that would be :\ I'll try restarting here quick. Thanks for the help.
[02:15] <yannie> Thanks.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> !rip
[02:16] <Prinler> ohsix, i didnt ask how to connect sir, im asking how can i make it not ask me each time i reboot for the keyring password... short of unsecuring my home wifi
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[02:16] <Nitrohax> ActionParsnip, It doesn't show anythign listed as being l=plugged in for a USB flash drive
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: so no reaction at all? weird
[02:16] <goguda> t-rask: No problem. I suggest that if you need any more help, you try the channel #audacity. They might have an easier time helping you ;)
[02:16] <ohsix> Prinler: if your login password isn't your keyring password i don't think it'll be automatically unlocked
[02:16] <joljam> @ActionParsnip, I am not able to read my sdcard in Ubuntu lucid,  I am getting the  message "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" when  use sudo fdisk -l
[02:16] <Nitrohax> ActionParsnip, None, it's crazy. I thought it was a MoBo prob, but all the settings are correct.
[02:17] <Prinler> ohsix, it is the same
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: are you in the plugdev group?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: and do you have gvfs-fuse installed?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Nitrohax: with the device inserted, if you run:   sudo fdisk -l   do you see the partition or disk?
[02:18] <Nitrohax> ActionParsnip, yeah I have that installed. I plug it in no reaction at all
[02:18] <Nitrohax> ActionParsnip, no.
[02:19] <jasmuz> Hello all.
[02:19] <bc81_> hi jasmuz
[02:19] <lajor> hi
[02:19] <ohsix> you shouldn't need gio or gvfs-fuse for anything to do with automounting of plain storage
[02:19] <jasmuz> My question is, with what software do you guys scrobble your played ipod tracks, i used amarok 1.4.10 before but its no longer available
[02:19] <Nitrohax> Harddrives, Ipod, no usb flash drives. I did a usb hd reader on the same ports just to see, they show up. just the straight uSb flash drives don't work
[02:20] <Nitrohax> ActionParsnip, it's like insanity. all the hard stuff is working but all the easy stuff isn't being seen
[02:20] <jasmuz> bc81_: hello!
[02:21] <NinjaJef> Is it possible to get a process back to my current terminal that I started in another terminal?
[02:21] <ohsix> Nitrohax: plug it in and unplug it, then post as much as you can of the end of the output of dmesg
[02:21] <ohsix> Nitrohax: to a pastebin
[02:21] <bc81_> jasmuz: by scrobble, do you mean "Update IM status according to the current song (works with Empathy, Gossip, and Pidgin)"?
[02:21] <jasmuz> any ideas?
[02:21] <jasmuz> bc81_: No, i mean reporting them to Last.fm
[02:22] <bc81_> jasmuz: Rythmbox can scrobble with the plugin enabled
[02:22] <Nitrohax> ohsix, I'm going to take a break on it right now. Just went into windows to watch a netflix. LOL
[02:22] <Nitrohax> ActionParsnip, ohsix, Thanks though. I'll be back in the morning
[02:22] <bc81_> jasmuz: go to "Edit >> Plugins >> Last.fm
[02:22] <NinjaJef> Does Netflix not work in Gnome?
[02:23] <Nitrohax> NinjaJeff, no
[02:23] <t-rask> goguda, it looks like the settings I did earlier for playing MIDI randomly took effect while I was using Audacity. Brought Audacity back to using "default" output and it works just fine. Thanks for your help!
[02:23] <jasmuz> bc81_: rythmbox isn't working for me, worked once now it just sits there.
[02:23] <Nitrohax> NinjaJeff, it needs silverlight in order to work and moonlight isn't quite the same
[02:23] <NinjaJeff> I see. :\
[02:23] <Nitrohax> jasmuz, try opening it back up from the applications menu
[02:24] <goguda> t-rask: No problem :)
[02:24] <NinjaJeff> So, any ideas on getting a process back?
[02:24] <jasmuz> Nitrohax: uh? the player works, but dosen't report jack
[02:24] <NinjaJeff> I started it on another terminal, so now it's running like in the background.
[02:24] <bc81_> jasmuz: hmm..odd.  you try deleting the preferences?  remove the folder, "~/.local/share/rythmbox"
[02:24] <tf2ftw> NinjaJeff, its gone
[02:24] <tf2ftw> NinjaJeff, try ps -l
[02:24] <Nitrohax> jasmuz, i'm not sure what you are talking about
[02:24] <bc81_> jasmuz: oh nevermind i see
[02:25] <NinjaJeff> It's still running.
[02:25] <Deeps> is it possible to dual screen with two different screens running at different resolutions without having hidden sections on the top and bottom of the second screen? ie, i have two screens, 1920x1200 and 1920x1080, and i'm losing a bit at the top and bottom of the smaller screen when i have dual displays enabled
[02:25] <bc81_> jasmuz: yu have the plugin configured?
[02:25] <tf2ftw> NinjaJeff, ok, so what do you want to do with it?
[02:25] <Nitrohax> NinjaJeff, did you try to open it from the task/process list?
[02:25] <Deeps> the mouse can go into the areas, but i cant see it or the contents in those areas
[02:25] <jasmuz> bc81_: yes, and it states its OK with last.fm
[02:25] <Deeps> becomes very obvious when attempting to full screen a movie in totem media player or vlc
[02:25] <NinjaJeff> I'm on through ssh.
[02:25] <Deeps> as the controls are all hidden
[02:26] <jasmuz> but below it says tracks submitted 0
[02:26] <tf2ftw> NinjaJeff, yeah if you dont screen the processes its probably lost.
[02:26] <Nitrohax> NinjaJeff, ack not sure on that one. sorry
[02:26] <tf2ftw> NinjaJeff, just kill it and start again.. if it was a upgrade/install situation you can start it over
[02:27] <Nitrohax> NinjaJeff, that's what i was thinking too
[02:27] <NinjaJeff> I don't want to lose the work already done.
[02:27] <NinjaJeff> And, I'd like to learn how to do this for future reference.
[02:27] <NinjaJeff> It's nothing critical. I won't die if I can't recover it.
[02:28] <gp5st1> i added a upstart script, but i can't see it with service
[02:28] <bc81_> jasmuz: not sure, you can always try Exaile, it has an AudioScrobbler plugin also
[02:28] <Roasted> are there any media players that work? Banshee shuts off right away if my mp3 player is plugged in and rhythmbox won't detect the 7gb worth of music on my player.
[02:28] <Nitrohax> Roasted, what player are you using?
[02:29] <tf2ftw> NinjaJeff, just do $ screen my-command-here
[02:29] <Roasted> Nitrohax, I just said, banshee and rhythmbox.
[02:29] <bc81_> Roasted: i can also recommend you try Exaile
[02:29] <tf2ftw> screen -S
[02:29] <Grishnackh666> hi there
[02:29] <ohsix> Roasted: did you pick the device from the side bar?
[02:29] <Nitrohax> Roasted, that's great what MP3 player are you trying to use.
[02:29] <jasmuz> bc81_: humm.. i'll try it out ttyl
[02:29] <Roasted> ohsix, it sees "SANSA FUZE" but it doesn't show any music on it.
[02:29] <Roasted> Nitrohax, sandisk.
[02:29] <Starminn> !player > Roasted
[02:30] <Grishnackh666> chmod -g -R 0770 mydir changes the permissions for groups and users to rwx and for guests to ---, doesn't it?
[02:30] <Starminn> Roasted: Just try those and see what works?
[02:30] <ohsix> Roasted: is the quick search box empty?
[02:30] <Roasted> Starminn, but I would like to get one of these working. I don't want to just pass it off as "oh it doesnt work for me but it works for the rest of the world"
[02:30] <Roasted> thanks but*'
[02:30] <Nitrohax> Roasted, probaly looks more like a removeable drive to ubuntu, look to see files and there the music. But rythmbox is the best one out there for syncing
[02:31] <Starminn> Roasted: understandable
[02:31] <Roasted> Nitrohax, I'm not after syncing. I'm just after making playlists. But I made a playlist in Banshee and my player had no clue. I'm hoping I could get rhythmbox working so I can try their playlist feature.
[02:31] <Roasted> Nitrohax, I'm moving the music off of my player now onto my desktop, then I'll just add a song or two and see if it picks it up then. Oddly, rhythmbox picked it up a few hours ago, but I changed around my music, so I wonder what happened.
[02:32] <Roasted> Nitrohax, I also wonder if I can restore this to factory settings???
[02:32] <Nitrohax> Roasted, there should be a reset button on the back for that. At least on most scandisk's i have seen
[02:32] <Gartral> !clone | Gartral
[02:33] <Nitrohax> Roasted, rythmbox is really hard to make playlist that sync i have found though. I haven't even had it work for ipod yet
[02:33] <Roasted> Nitrohax, well, it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't work for ipods, but it works for everything else.
[02:33] <Gartral> arrgh. I can't recive PMs in this crap for a client.
[02:33] <Roasted> Nitrohax, but I'm not trying to sync anything. I'm just trying to manually create a few playlists from scratch.
[02:33] <Nitrohax> huh
[02:34] <Gartral> can someone trigger the !clone tip too me IN THIS CHAT?
[02:34] <Nitrohax> Roasted, let me try somethings. BRB
[02:34] <Gartral> !clone
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: you can trigger it yourself you know :)
[02:35] <Gartral> will the clone remove packages not in the list?
[02:35] <Nitrohax> !clone
[02:35] <Nitrohax> see ;) LOL
[02:35] <mickster04> !clone > me
[02:36] <ohsix> !clone > notonthischannel
[02:36] <overclucker> Grishnackh666: 0770 is u+rwx,g+rwx,o-rwx
[02:36] <Camarata-> i know Linux has WINE for Windows applications, but if I can find a Mac version of it, how would I install a Mac app on Linux?
[02:37] <bc81_> Camarata-: not possible yet (that i know of)  you would probably have to install mac in a virtual machine (see VirtualBox OSE)
[02:37] <Gartral> actionparsnip will the clone remove packages not in the list?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: shouldn't do as far as I know
[02:38] <Camarata-> thought with it being Unix there would be a better way to use Mac programs :(
[02:38] <Gartral> Camarata-: there's no need for wine, what you need too do is match compatability from GNUstep, BSD, and Cocoa.
[02:38] <Starminn> Camarata: Linux != Unix
[02:39] <Gartral> that too.. Linux is based on Unix directly, Mac is based off of Cocoa/BSD... BSD is only VERY loosly based on unix.. with many many many other changes.
[02:39] <mickster04> !unix
[02:40] <gp5st1> http://pastebin.com/vLqv6bMu is my script at /etc/init/xvfb.conf 644 root:root when i run service xvfb it says it can't find it
[02:40] <EmuAlert> How do you set what files extensions cue which programs? "Preferred applications" doesn't let you customize a whole lot
[02:40] <Nitrohax> linux,unix open source mac(BSD) is so/so and microsoft(DOS) is closed. And who wants to go to something closed?
[02:41] <Gartral> will the clone remove packages not in the list?
[02:41] <Starminn> EmuAlert: Right-click on the file in question and hit "Open with..." or something like that and hit "Remembermy choice" or whatever
[02:41] <Gartral> !mime
[02:41] <ohsix> Gartral: linux isn't based on unix, or deriving anything from it
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: right click the file -> open with. then choose your app and tell the OS to remember it
[02:41] <ohsix> Gartral: the only thing they really all have in common is that they can pass a test suite
[02:41] <rionstrife> hi..i have a problem with my ubuntu 10.10 herte
[02:41] <IdleOne> Gartral: if you mean already installed packages, no it won't remove them.
[02:41] <ManateeLazyCat> How about apt base on p2p? Anyone have experience on this?
[02:41] <Gartral> ohsix: tell the other guy that, I was telling him what he needed for getting MacOSX apps running under linux.
[02:42] <edbian> ohsix, Gartral Linux is unix like. It follows similar design principals
[02:42] <rionstrife> if i have a problem with power voltage.so my ubuntu is forcefully shut down
[02:42] <rionstrife> after i restart my box.my ubuntu is hang at grub selection.i have to enter on keyboard......
[02:42] <ohsix> edbian: not at all, haha; unless you mean "everything is a file", because that's where it ends
[02:42] <Nitrohax> have you tried running Vbox for running linux and bsd at the same time?
[02:43] <rionstrife> since i made it for server.without keyboard and monitor.so it always hang on grub selection..do u have a solution for me..?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> rionstrife: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub file, thanks
[02:43] <IdleOne> Gartral: unless of course you have a conflicting packages but it should warn you of that.
[02:43] <dokuro> Trying to upgrade ubuntu 8.04 server's php to 5.2.9 or higher, can't seem to get it to update
[02:43] <ManateeLazyCat> I plan to write software to update apt package base on p2p protocol. Any link or resource are welcome! Thanks!
[02:43] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:allright.
[02:43] <Gartral> edbian: not closly enough too allow binary intercompatability. There's also no "unixframework" package for linux.. meaning nothing will be seen as mapped by a UNIX app..
[02:43] <ohsix> ManateeLazyCat: you should look at the debian projects that already do that
[02:43] <gp5st1> ManateeLazyCat: I think that's done alreayd
[02:43] <gp5st1> already*
[02:43] <ManateeLazyCat> gp5st1: Link?
[02:43] <Gartral> ActionParsnip why the hell does your name not work for autocomplete?
[02:43] <mezimezim> someone can help me: I can't find the way to resize the windows partition on my hardrive and install ubuntu along with windows
[02:44] <ManateeLazyCat> ohsix: Link?
[02:44] <ohsix> ManateeLazyCat: debian.org
[02:44] <Starminn> Gartral: It works for me.
[02:44] <gp5st1> ManateeLazyCat: i forget, just search for apt p2p
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: try typing act, then hit tab
[02:44] <^robertj> how well behaved is the 5670 with the propietary drivers & compiz?
[02:44] <Gartral> Starminn: im on the crappy Empathy chat
[02:44] <Gartral> actionparsnip i know how it should work, but your name isn't completling
[02:44] <Starminn> Gartral: Ah, Pidgin here. *shrug* Not sure if that matters though.
[02:44] <Secret128> Hey im trying to install perl from windows xp
[02:45] <Secret128>  i mean
[02:45] <Secret128> ubuntu
[02:45] <ohsix> ubuntu
[02:45] <daRuffian> irssi works with tab complete as well
[02:45] <Secret128> becuase when i try it always gives me a error and crashes
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> mezimezim: what version is the windows OS?
[02:45] <Gartral> daRuffian: no page keys on my keyboard kinda inhibits irssi.
[02:45] <gp5st1> any help with upstart not seeing new conf files in /etc/init/?
[02:45] <daRuffian> Gartral: ah...
[02:45] <Secret128> when i try installing it from the disk on windows xp
[02:46] <ohsix> Gartral: not even on fn+arrows or other keys?
[02:46] <mezimezim> vista home edition
[02:46] <Gartral> ohsix: no fn keys either
[02:46] <daRuffian> Gartral: what is it a solaris key board?
[02:46] <daRuffian> lol
[02:46] <Gartral> ohsix daRuffian go google the CR-48 and look at it's keyboard.
[02:47] <feyd> how can I get the bootsplash back after installing NVIDIA drivers?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> mezimezim: yuo can resize the ntfs in the ubuntu cd
[02:47] <mezimezim> ok
[02:47] <ManateeLazyCat> gp5st1: I found many package about apt p2p, which is best?
[02:47] <ManateeLazyCat> gp5st1: And how about download speed?
[02:48] <daRuffian> Gartral: awsome...when will it be lanced to the public?
[02:48] <mezimezim> ActionParsnip: that's what I thought, but I can't find the way to do so with the installer
[02:48] <EmuAlert> Huh, now xml documents still open in firefox but create a gedit window titled "opening yourfile.xml" for 10 seconds before it closes.
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> feyd: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/   use until the embedded video
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> !resize | mezimezim
[02:48] <Secret128> windows xp pro
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot
[02:48] <Secret128> how do you install it
[02:48] <Guest60662> okay, I have a server up and running and When lets say one user moves a file to the everyone folder, another file can access it but not be able to delete or change it. I just learned of thei create mask = 0765 will that help any?
[02:48] <Secret128> without starting up windows xp pro
[02:48] <Guest60662>  and if not how may I fix this?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest60662: make the owning user have full access but the group have read only access
[02:49] <mezimezim> ActionParsnip: sure enough:) but the "resize" option is greyed in the installer....
[02:49] <Secret128> so any idear how i can do it
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Secret128: do what? Your broken up question made no sense
[02:50] <Guest60662> ActionParsnip...that is the issue, the group need read and write
[02:50] <Guest60662> they only have read
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest60662: write access also allows delete
[02:50] <Secret128> install it without loading windows xp pro up
[02:50] <gp5st1> ManateeLazyCat: i'm not sure. i believe there is an offical one. i'd work from there
[02:50] <bc81_> EmuAlert: you must edit or delete the file /.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[02:50] <Nitrohax> Guest60662, what are using to try and resize?
[02:50] <Secret128> like from the startup menu
[02:50] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:http://pastebin.com/FcUJU0RX
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Secret128: use a virtualbox / vmware
[02:50] <Secret128> no
[02:51] <Secret128> i just want to install it
[02:51] <rionstrife> i think i dont have a problem with my grub.because its default..
[02:51] <Secret128> on my laptop
[02:51] <mickster04> Secret128: that doesn't make any sense, you don't ever have to boot into it once you have installed it, but why bother installing it?
[02:51] <Secret128> i want it as the os not windows xp as the os
[02:51] <Secret128> its not installed
[02:51] <Gartral> daRuffian: they will not be released too the general public. Acer, Dell, And Samsung will be releasing their own Chromebooks in a few month, US only for now...
[02:51] <Secret128> though
[02:51] <rionstrife> i have about 50 server here.an all of it's hang on grub kernel selection.
[02:51] <Guest60662> I have a samba shar set up, one windows client can connect to the folder "everyone" and add files. but thoughs files do not allow anyone else to have write access. they only have read onlye. even after giving them proper permissions
[02:51] <Nitrohax> Secret128, you want to haev the primary OS as windows, and a vbox for linux?
[02:51] <mickster04> Secret128: so you want ubuntu as the OS, not xp, but you want to install xp anyway?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> rionstrife: mine is pretty much the same except I have #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0   uncommented
[02:52] <Secret128> no Ubuntu as the main os
[02:52] <mickster04> Secret128: well just install it?
[02:52] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:okay i try to comment it
[02:52] <Secret128> ive installed windows
[02:52] <mickster04> Secret128: so?
[02:52] <Secret128> im trying to install ubuntu
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Secret128: yes, you can install the windows OS in a virtual system....
[02:52] <mezimezim> ActionParsnip: ubuntu installer does not detect windows, here, it shows that ubuntu detects another OS : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Secret128: so you have a TRUE install of windows and want to access it?
[02:52] <mickster04> Secret128: well just put the disk in and boot off it
[02:52] <Secret128> from windows like you install other things with a disk on windows
[02:52] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:so what i have to do..?
[02:53] <Secret128> how do i goto the bootup menu
[02:53] <rionstrife> uncomment it..?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Secret128: you CAN but it's known to cause data corruption
[02:53] <Nitrohax> Secret, install the ubuntu OS, then go to the sunmocrosystems site and d/l Vbox and then install windows in that
[02:53] <Gartral> does anyone know if the freaking clone system REMOVES installed crap that isn't on the list?
[02:53] <mezimezim> Parsnip: I did it with 10.04, now I am trying to install 10.10...no detection
[02:53] <mickster04> Secret128: press f8 at start up usually, change bios settings i can't think of much else?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Secret128: can you also target me so your text highlights like I am to you
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> rionstrife: edit the file, then run: sudo update-grub
[02:53] <ohsix> Gartral: it doesn't, it just sets new selections
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> mezimezim: then resize with Lucid CD, then boot to maverick CD and install to the free space
[02:54] <Gartral> ohsix: is there a way too force thr functionality i'm looking for?
[02:54] <EmuAlert> bc81_, Thanks, fixed it. It's handy to have everything somewhere in a plaintext file
[02:54] <mezimezim> yep :( I gave away my Lucid CD :(
[02:54] <mickster04> Secret128: then select the cd as the boot option
[02:54] <mezimezim> will download again
[02:54] <feyd> ActionParsnip: I had part of this process done, missed some of it though, thanks for the link, giving it a whirl
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> mezimezim: gah
[02:55] <mezimezim> indeed!
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> feyd: I always use it no matter what video chip, just makes life simpler
[02:55] <ohsix> Gartral: i don't know of anything that will remove packages not in a list
[02:55] <bc81_> EmuAlert: yes, very hand file.  remember that will come in handy again, i'm sure!! :)
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> mezimezim: thats all I got. I don't dual boot and if I did I would PLAN my partitions so I didn't need to mess with resizing. Installing Other OSes (like Windows) to a portion of the available space instead of the default 100% can save you effort and risk
[02:56] <ohsix> Gartral: oh, hey; this works, dpkg --get-selections > selections, dpkg --clear-selections, dpkg --set-selections < selections
[02:56] <Gartral> daRuffian: if you want more info on the Chromebooks go ahead and pm me
[02:57] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:still same error..
[02:57] <ohsix> Gartral: careful with dpkg --clear-selections ;]
[02:57] <rionstrife> i plugged off the power supply cable.and i power on my ubuntu box.its still hang..
[02:57] <Gartral> ohsix: and in context too the clone file i have?
[02:57] <rionstrife> after i press enter on keyboard it doesnt problem.
[02:57] <Sheldon> Is there anyone know how to use RuiJie authenticate in China carmp net?
[02:58] <ohsix> Gartral: forget the !clone message, just do it with dpkg, using aptitude is an attempt to skip packages that were automatically installed in the list
[02:58] <Sheldon> Is there anyone know how to use RuiJie authenticate in China camp net? Please help!
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> rionstrife: here is mine to compare: http://pastebin.com/EkxF2zg8
[02:58] <mickster04> !patience ~ Sheldon
[02:58] <mickster04> !patience
[02:58] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:version 10.10?
[02:58] <Gartral> ohsix: I don't understand, do I use the clone file i have? how does this new method work?
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> rionstrife: its lucid (10.04) but grub2 is grub2
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> rionstrife: could ask in #grub as well
[02:59] <rionstrife> ActionParsnip:okay thanks :D
[02:59] <mickster04> does anybody have a UK style keyboard, mind telling me where the pipe is? I have a US style but am using putty thru a UK server (uni) and it's not letting me change from UK layout, I can't see where the pipe is it's a bit like ¦
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: left of Z
[03:00] <ohsix> mickster04: under backspace, press shift, unshifted should be a backslash (\)
[03:00] <edbian> mickster04, That thing you just typed is a pipe
[03:00] <Gartral> mickster04: UK english or UK international?
[03:00] <bc81_> mickster04: you can always use a character map to copy a pipe :P
[03:00] <ohsix> edbian: not the ascii one
[03:00] <Sheldon> When I use 'sudo /etc/ini.d/networing restart' to restart my network, but I got 'failed to bring up eth0',Why???
[03:00] <Gartral> bc81_: no he cant.
[03:00] <edbian> ohsix, mmm
[03:01] <Sheldon> anybody know?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Sheldon: does it have a module?
[03:01] <Gartral> Sheldon: look at ifconfig.
[03:01] <Sheldon> No
[03:01] <Starminn> mickster04: Next to the Z. SHIFT+backslash
[03:02] <Sheldon> I can see eth0 and loop and wlan0 in ifconfig
[03:02] <Gartral> Sheldon: if you don't have a kernel module for your ethernet card, you arent going too get online with it anytime soon
[03:02] <Starminn> mickster04: At least that's what the picture I looked up online is showing.
[03:02] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: ah, I don't have that key :/ ohsix that's where it is on my keyboard below backspace, edbian there is a solid one too? i figured they were different Gartral i dunno
[03:02] <Gartral> Starminn: no-one can help him till he figures out which of the 8 various UK keyboards he has is.
[03:03] <mickster04> Starminn: yeah no :/
[03:03] <Starminn> Gartral: 8 variations? Yikes... good point.
[03:03] <mickster04> nm
[03:03] <mezimezim> thanks ActionPArsnip
[03:03] <daRuffian> mode /i
[03:03] <mickster04> !hello ¦ me
[03:03] <daRuffian> doubt
[03:03] <ohsix> i've never seen a keyboard with it next to the Z, i must be confused; is that the uk keyboard?
[03:03] <mickster04> yeah that pipe doesn't work :(
[03:04] <Gartral> mickster04: ask your tech dept. if they have a us keymap they can load into the workstation. or better yet, a US keyboard.
[03:04] <Starminn> ohsix:  was seeing this one: http://www.bristol.ac.uk/is/learning/documentation/keyboard-1/keyboard-r1-6.gif
[03:04] <mickster04> ohsix: my one isn't but the keyboard laytout putty is seeing is UK
[03:04] <mickster04> Gartral: I am using a US keyboard, the layout the server is seeing is UK
[03:05] <Roasted> I just formatted my sandisk sansa mp3 player through the interface, and now it won't show up as a device within ubuntu. even fdisk -l doesn't show it as being recognized. what can I do?
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: just copy and paste the character from the channel
[03:05] <Gartral> mickster04: that's reading the OS's keymap, which if your in windows, is next to a turd in usefullness...
[03:05] <Starminn> mickster04: System->Preferences->Keyboard change it then
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: unplug it and plug it back in, maybe
[03:05] <Gartral> actionparsnip that's going too fail, he's using putty, the second you paste into putty it sends the command, that's not what he wants.
[03:06] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, tried that many times.
[03:06] <Gartral> Roasted: a sansa e200?
[03:07] <Roasted> Gartral, nah. Its a Fuze of some sort.
[03:07] <mickster04> Gartral: so yeah, the pc i am on is windows, set to US keyboard, the linux server in england, which is what i am sshing to, is probably UK, is there a way to change the keyboard layout in terminal ? :p
[03:07] <mickster04> can someone give me a pipe to copy?
[03:07] <bc81_> |||||||| | | | | |
[03:07] <mickster04> !cookie  | me
[03:07] <bc81_> take your pick
[03:07] <mickster04> huzzah!
[03:07] <Gartral> Roasted: you TOASTED it.. never ever ever format a MTP device.. you're going too have too break it open, attach a JTAG cable, and reimage it with a firmware file
[03:08] <bc81_> mickster what if you hold ctrl+shift and type u007c     that makes a pipe:  |
[03:08] <Roasted> Gartral, I formatted it within the Sandisk interface, not within GParted or anything.
[03:08] <Roasted> Gartral, if I toasted it, it shouldn't be in the interface.
[03:08] <Gartral> Roasted: you *might* be able too recover it with the Rockbox Loader.
[03:08] <Roasted> Gartral, I'm not trying to recover any music. I just wanted to reset it o factory settings.
[03:09] <Gartral> Roasted: I toasted an e250 that ended up doing exactly the same thing.
[03:09] <bc81_> mickster04: see above (if you didn't get the signal)
[03:09] <Roasted> Gartral, then fail on sandisk for having it in the fn interface.
[03:09] <Gartral> Roasted: that's what the rockbox loader will do.
[03:09] <Roasted> That's ridiculous.
[03:09] <Roasted> So how do I fix it? Rockbox loader? Is that a linux thing?
[03:10] <Gartral> Roasted: it isn't sandisk's fault the the system you plugged it into would let you format the device.
[03:10] <mickster04> c
[03:10] <Gartral> Roasted: www.rockbox.org
[03:10] <Starminn> Speaking of Rockbox I was about to ask how I can give it permission to write the loader to my device.
[03:10] <Roasted> Gartral, I didn't have it plugged in.
[03:10] <mickster04> nope :p
[03:10] <Roasted> Gartral, I formatted it WITHIN the SANDISK interface.
[03:10] <Roasted> Gartral, it was a feature within the sandisk menu.
[03:10] <Gartral> Roasted: ohh.. that's odd...
[03:10] <Roasted> Gartral, If that bricked this thing, it is ABSOLUTELY their fault.
[03:10] <Roasted> I can understand if I used gparted or something, but I didn't.
[03:10] <Gartral> Roasted: indeed it is
[03:10] <Roasted> Gartral, I mean, it turns on and stuff. Ubuntu just doesn't recognize it.....
[03:11] <Gartral> Roasted: ohhhhhh
[03:11] <Roasted> Gartral, I backed up my music and wanted to push it back onto the device, but no such luck.
[03:11] <Gartral> Roasted: it's stuck in SCP mode.
[03:12] <richardcavell> Will 64-bit programs work on 32-bit Ubuntu at all?
[03:12] <Gartral> Roasted: this is an entirly different problem. power it down, and hold the "left" or >> and keep it depressed while plugging it in.
[03:12] <Roasted> Gartral, why are you such a genius.
[03:12] <Gartral> richardcavell: yes, but you'll have some very severe stability and speed issues.
[03:13] <Roasted> Gartral, how did you know that
[03:13] <AbhijiT> richardcavell, no
[03:13] <AbhijiT> gardar, no
[03:13] <richardcavell> So they won't even load?
[03:13] <Gartral> Roasted: I'm a Rockbox dev, we had a HELUVA time with those sansas.
[03:13] <AbhijiT> richardcavell, 64 bit application wont run on 32 bit os
[03:13] <Roasted> Gartral, ehh, I'm getting an error mounting it though
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: 64bit apps runing in 32bit OS?
[03:13] <Roasted> Gartral, but it DID pop up as if it recognized it being a device.
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: really? didn't know that
[03:13] <AbhijiT> ActionParsnip, :D
[03:14] <Gartral> Roasted: what's the error?
[03:14] <russell__> Hi, I need some help getting X back - it appears that the Ati drivers have stopped x from displaying anything - anyone? I just need to set  it back to normal pre-install ubuntu -state
[03:14] <Roasted> Gartral, Could not display "gphoto2://[usb:001,060]/"
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: as far as I am aware, 64bit wil not run in 32bit. You can however do the other ways around
[03:14] <Roasted> Gartral, with a DBus error
[03:14] <judgepg> russell__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <Gartral> Roasted: hah. you need too set the udev rule corectly.
[03:15] <Roasted> Gartral, how would I do that
[03:15] <Gartral> Roasted: -grumble- I'll need too look around, Google with me.. Sansa fuse udev ubuntu 10.10
[03:16] <russell__> judepg : how can I confirm this has changed, I've tried reverting back to a previous xorg.conf file but still no x-display - im limited to terminal now
[03:16] <Gartral> who asked about the rockbox loader?
[03:16] <judgepg> russell__: run that command, and then type: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:16] <judgepg> russell__: sudo !!
[03:17] <russell__> judgepg : sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[03:17] <Gartral> Starminn: the easiest, though most "insecure" way, is run the loader with sudo/
[03:18] <Roasted> Gartral, I'm not finding too much. Some users say "I wrote a udev rule" and paste it but I have *zero* idea what to do from there.
[03:18] <judgepg> russell__: you did: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:18] <Roasted> sigh
[03:18] <Starminn> Gartral: I know of that but was looking for an alternative
[03:18] <Roasted> "Could not lock the device"
[03:18] <judgepg> russell__: just use tab for auto-completion
[03:18] <russell__> judgepg : Yeh, it came back with command not found - I take it this maybe be the issue?
[03:19] <Gartral> Starminn: that's going too require alot. the Rockbox loader bypasses caching and needs too probe hardware directly...  it really is just easier too run it with sudo
[03:19] <judgepg> russell__: try sudo init 2
[03:19] <judgepg> russell__: then perhaps: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[03:20] <Gartral> Roasted: ok, where did you find said udev file?
[03:20] <Chipzzz> russell__: if the ATI drivers won't work for you, getting rid of them is not as easy as you might think... Full instructions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch
[03:20] <Roasted> Gartral, on a search of ubuntu forums. ALso - I set the USB mode to MCP or whatever it is and it mounts fine...
[03:20] <Roasted> MSC*
[03:20] <judgepg> russell__: sorry, type: "sudo service gdm stop" and then "sudo service gdm start"
[03:21] <Gartral> Roasted: ok, you figured it out, glad i could help!
[03:21] <Roasted> MTP gives me the error tho, Gartral
[03:21] <Roasted> I thought MTP was what I wanted?
[03:21] <Gartral> Roasted: MSC will wotk too, but it can lock up like it did before if the OS tries too access it too early..
[03:22] <Roasted> Gartral, lock up like it did before???
[03:22] <judgepg> russell__: You may need to be in another display to do this, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and then type "sudo service gdm stop" followed by "sudo service gdm start"  When done, press CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to this display
[03:22] <Gartral> Roasted: you should try the rockbox firmware, we spent alot of time making sure our firmwares work with all oses
[03:22] <Roasted> can I flash it within ubuntu?
[03:22] <Sarajevo> Hello guys
[03:22] <Gartral> Roasted: yes.
[03:22] <Sarajevo> Ok
[03:22] <Sarajevo> I wont be pathetic
[03:22] <bc81_> lol
[03:23] <russell__> judgepg : would restarting also resolve this? as im ssh remotely at the mo
[03:23] <Sarajevo> But I really need someone to buy me an internet domain chatomania.org
[03:23] <Sarajevo> I dont have any money and or paypal account
[03:23] <russell__> Chipzzz : yeh thanks, I followed that guide to remove everything - but no joy.
[03:23] <judgepg> russell__: Yes a reboot will do the trick, but you're not in a windows world anymore :)
[03:23] <mickster04> Sarajevo: sounds like a nigerian scam to me :p
[03:23] <Sarajevo> Id be really thankful if u bought me that domain
[03:23] <Sarajevo> Hhaah mickster04
[03:23] <Gartral> Roasted: there's one minor step you have too alter too get it too work in ubuntu though, but it isn't even a big deal
[03:23] <mickster04> !ot
[03:23] <Sarajevo> Im not askin for money,  i just need someone to buy me a $8 domain
[03:23] <Sarajevo> thats all
[03:23] <Sarajevo> chatomania.org
[03:23] <Sarajevo> thx
[03:24] <bc81_> !ot | Sarajevo
[03:24] <Roasted> Gartral, I find it weird gparted says this device is unallocated, yet I can mount it and write music to this exact partition
[03:24] <Sarajevo> Ok
[03:24] <Chipzzz> russell__: did it work with the radeon driver (before you installed the ATI driver)?
[03:24] <Roasted> Gartral, I wonder whatw ould happen if I create a fat partiion?
[03:24] <Gartral> Roasted: that's because the Sansa Firmware tries too "protect" the filesystem...
[03:25] <cryptodira> folks, I have got a 'gosh-darn' frustrating problem here.... a while back I farkled my top panel and have since been unable to completely restore it to "fresh install" status,  I have, however, been able to provide the functionality I want by means of the custom application launcher,,, the problem is that these 'CAP' items do NOT survive a reboot... what am I doing incorrectly?
[03:25] <Gartral> Roasted: then you really WOULD need too reflash.
[03:25] <Roasted> Gartral, I see. I'm just trying to figure out how I can rename it. I did it before.
[03:25] <Roasted> the partition ID or whatetver
[03:25] <Gartral> Roasted: ohh.. right click the partition nautilus.
[03:26] <bc81_> cryptodira: you tried resetting your panel to default statys?
[03:26] <Gartral> partition IN nautilus
[03:26] <bc81_> !panel | cryptodira
[03:26] <Roasted> Gartral, within /media?
[03:26] <bc81_> !panels | cryptodira
[03:26] <russell__> judgepg : no joy - only terminal :(
[03:27] <russell__> judgepg : it boots way to quick
[03:27] <nertil> sup
[03:27] <Gartral> open the mp3 player in the Places menu, and in the left hand panel, right click the Sansa Fuse icon
[03:27] <cryptodira> bc81_, yes, i did that,,, it did NOT restore everything to fresh install status, namely NO volume slider or network manager apps
[03:27] <russell__> judgepg : how can I tell if it is using xorg.conf?
[03:28] <sprockets2> How do you change desktop managers
[03:28] <Chipzzz> russell__: if you removed the ATI drivers & put back the radeon one, you still have to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org"
[03:28] <sprockets2> I need one that is minimal on the cpu/memory usage
[03:28] <Nitrohax> sprockets2, you mean you want the crazy cool graphics from fuzion?
[03:28] <russell__> Chipzzz : I just ran that command , rebooted but still the same - no x
[03:28] <sprockets2> no
[03:29] <sprockets2> haha
[03:29] <Nitrohax> sprockets2, have you thought about the lde interface?
[03:29] <sprockets2> God thatd be terrible
[03:29] <sprockets2> Yes LDE would be great
[03:29] <sprockets2> LDXE isnt it
[03:29] <FloodBot2> sprockets2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <bc81_> lxde
[03:29] <sprockets2> so what do I just download it and im golden, ahh im sure ther eis a tut on google
[03:29] <sprockets2> disregard
[03:29] <Nitrohax> sprockets2, yes lxde there is a version of lubuntu but i don't belive it's totally supported
[03:30] <sprockets2> woot youtube tutorial
[03:30] <cryptodira> bc81_,  those two items i can create with the custom app launcher... but they fail to survive a reboot, nor do any other items that I add from the applications group stay put after a reboot... hence, i must be doing something incorrectly
[03:30] <mobius2> greetings Ubuntu channel
[03:30] <Nitrohax> sprockets2, LOL. it worked for me pretty good
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> sprockets2: flwm is as light as they come :)
[03:30] <mickster04> greetings mobius2
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> sprockets2: or just use openbox which is what LXDE uses but you won't have the nice LXDE stuffs
[03:31] <mobius2> I am trying to make an older usb webcam work in linux... I am pretty sure it does not have a native linux driver.... the camera model is Ezonics EZ cam II does anyone here have any idea if this cam even works in linux at all?
[03:31] <Roasted> Gartral, yeah not seeing how to rename it. but whatever, I'll figure it out.
[03:31] <Roasted> Gartral, appreciate your help bro.
[03:31] <sprockets2> im going to try LXDE
[03:32] <mickster04> mobius2: just plug it in and see
[03:32] <Nitrohax> mobius2, have you tried to use a program called cheese?
[03:32] <mickster04> mobius2: there will be a generic usb webcam driver that may well work
[03:32] <bc81_> cryptodira: when you log in, you try choosing a different session?
[03:32] <mobius2> I have attempted camorama as well as cheese to no avail
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> mobius2: run:  lsusb    one line will identify the device, websearch the 8 character hex id. The make and model is fairly worthless
[03:32] <Chipzzz> russell__: if you type "lsmod | grep radeon" do you get several lines back?
[03:32] <cryptodira> bc81_, no, i have not tried that.
[03:32] <mobius2> ActionParsnip,  thanks I will try that
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> mobius2: as Nitrohax says, cheese is a god first stop. It may just work. If not use the lsusb ID
[03:33] <Gartral> Roasted: you can rename it from Rockbox.
[03:33] <suicidalminds> Hello, I'm trying to run a .jar file, but it is being blocked.  How do I unblock it for use?
[03:33] <qwerty1> can 10.04 be installed so I can run it or windows 7....I know 10.10 can but wasn't sure if it works both ways
[03:34] <arand> qwerty1: Yes
[03:34] <bc81_> suicidalminds: make sure it's executable.  right-click Properties, Permission, Executable
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> qwerty1: all the releases can dual boot
[03:34] <cryptodira> bc81_, IF a different login session works and my main one does not....where does that tell me to look for a solution?   if another session does not work... does that then tell me to look elswhere?
[03:34] <mobius2> well i just learned there is no driver for the cam
[03:34] <mobius2> bummer
[03:34] <mickster04> mobius2: webcams are dirt cheap now
[03:35] <qwerty1> arand...when I burned the disc for windows it always wants to download the 10.10 version although I selected 10.04 on the previous screen
[03:35] <mobius2> thanks for that lesson on how to find that info out though :)
[03:35] <russell__> Chipzzz : Nothing is returned
[03:35] <Gartral> qwerty1: yes, any and all linux distros, unless they came MARKED specifically for a purpose that requires the whole drive, can peacfully co-exist with windows, macOSX, and bsd
[03:35] <mobius2> i totally leanred something!
[03:35] <bc81_> cryptodira: i don't know, sorry.  running that command should reset your panel to default.  after that i don't know how to halp you
[03:35] <mobius2> thanks man laters ubuntu channel
[03:35] <qwerty1> sweet
[03:35] <nixjr> wehn using synaptic package manager, ti shows the latest version of vlc to be 1.0.3-1ubuntu1.5, on vlc's homepage the latest is 1.1.7, why are they so vastly different, and why should i use one over the other?
[03:35] <cryptodira> bc81_,  you are correct... it does partially fail tho,  Thank You for your help
[03:36] <russell__> Chipzzz : ideally I need to re-install the radeon driver, the pc boots up but in low graphics mode and shows just a terminal within x
[03:36] <bc81_> !latest | nixjr
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[03:37] <arand> qwerty1: You can always download directly from http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[03:37] <Gartral> removing evolution isn't going too break anything (other than mailto:) right?
[03:37] <mokweon> no
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: as long as you keep evolution-data-server-common yes
[03:37] <Chipzzz> russell__: you did not reinstall the radeon driver... "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati", "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri" sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-org-core", sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org"
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: its a non-sensical dep of gnome-panel
[03:38] <ubutartar> ok, i can not use firefox in xubuntu?
[03:38] <edbian> ubutartar, sure you can
[03:38] <bc81_> you can use it, yes
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> ubutartar: if you want to not use it, you don't have to
[03:38] <arand> Gartral: I don't know how the calendar/clock applet will fare...
[03:38] <Chipzzz> russell__: (missing some quotes back there... sorry)
[03:38] <nixjr> bc81_, do you mean that vlc hasnt been stable since 1.0.6? surely they test their software
[03:38] <suicidalminds> Hello
[03:38] <edbian> ActionParsnip, 'if you want to not use it, you don't have to'
[03:38] <apet4u> Hello everyone
[03:38] <suicidalminds> can anyone help me?
[03:39] <daRuffian> Anyone know of a command/bash script for viewing news headlines?
[03:39] <edbian> suicidalminds, that's what we're here to do
[03:39] <bc81_> nixjr: vlc is quite stable for me, and always has been
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: you can log a bug if you like. I gave you the command to get 1.1.7 :)
[03:39] <mickster04> !anyone
[03:39] <br10ta10> !ask | suicidalminds
[03:39] <mokweon> Does anyone know how i can make the adobe pdf webview feature  work with chromium?
[03:39] <ubutartar> xD
[03:39] <suicidalminds> I'm trying to run a .jar file, but when I do the archive manager pops up.  When I open with java 6 open jdk, it says
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> edbian: I certainly don't use it
[03:39] <mickster04> daRuffian: that's not really support related, try commandlinefu.com
[03:39] <suicidalminds> "Blocked: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java -jar
[03:39] <edbian> ActionParsnip, I was just commenting on the readability of the sentence :)
[03:39] <suicidalminds> How do I unblock it to run it?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> edbian: it makes sense...
[03:40] <daRuffian> mickster04: k thanks
[03:40] <edbian> ActionParsnip, forget it
[03:40] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, thanks for that, i guess i was more wondering why it was the way ti was, not so muich how to get around it
[03:40] <suicidalminds> I'm pretty new to this linux stuff
[03:40] <uRock> !natty
[03:40] <Nitrohax> suicidalminds, it all changes tomrrow
[03:41] <suicidalminds> tomorrow?
[03:41] <suicidalminds> I don't understand
[03:41] <FrankBro> Anyone know a software like intel's thread profiler that will let me see the timeline of a multi-threaded program made with pthread ?
[03:41] <bc81_> nixjr: you can look at the changelog for VLC to see what the differences are (if that's what you mean)
[03:41] <suicidalminds> How can I run this java file?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> suicidalminds: I'd right click it and select 'open with', then manually enter the command to run it wish. If you ae unsure where 'java' is, run: which java   in a terminal. Write that in the command box then tell the OS to remember the association
[03:41] <mickster04> suicidalminds: have you checked the permissions allow it to be executed?
[03:42] <gaelfx> Do HP Pavilions generally play well with ubuntu?
[03:42] <Gartral> how do I force a right click from a left click? I can't right click the menu too get too the add sources options..
[03:42] <suicidalminds> I see, I'm unsure how to do that, oh, how can I check the permission?
[03:42] <nixjr> bc81_, i mean if vlc developers test their program and decide its stable enough for release, what ahve the ubuntu team found that makes them decide to hold off for several releases
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: its a WIDE range of models within the pavillion family so there is no single answer
[03:42] <mickster04> Gartral: as far as i am aware, but there will probably always be special cases, so it might depend on what the specs are?
[03:43] <ubutartar> want to play dark orbit in xubuntu 8,04? firefox is buggy..what do i use instead?
[03:43] <mickster04> ubutartar: a supported version of ubuntu for a start
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> ubutartar: try another browser..
[03:43] <mickster04> *xubuntu
[03:43] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: well, are there any common problems with them then?
[03:43] <apet4u> I am having a little trouble with the Ath5k driver for an Atheros ar5006eg card it works as long as im not on a protected WPA/2 and i do have trouble staying connected to WEP connections ive been to most of the support sites and read but i cant find a solution to my problem.... can anyone actually help me and talk me through it...
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: most likely not
[03:44] <Sir_Leto> @Ubutartar try google chrome.
[03:44] <mokweon> Does anyone know how i can view PDF files on chromium?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: the problems will most likely be as varied as any other laptop range available
[03:44] <ubutartar> yup those were my first thoughts/actions... no space; in the process
[03:44] <gaelfx> the most major problem I have is I'm buying computers in China, and it's really hard to get a straight answer about actual hardware configs
[03:44] <mickster04> !EOL
[03:44] <chris__> hello room
[03:45] <suicidalminds> ActionParsnip, I typed java -jar blabla.jar, but it says Unable to access jarfile blabla.jar
[03:45] <Sereph> whats an app for ubuntu that does instant messaging and facebook chat?
[03:45] <ubutartar> a BROWSER THAT HAS Flash native maybe <<oops.
[03:45] <mokweon> Sereph pidgin
[03:45] <Sereph> mokweon: facebook chat seems to have broken for me on it
[03:45] <russell__> Chipzzz : thanks for that, ive ran all of those commands, but when I run xorg configure command it says its not installed?! but it is...?
[03:46] <mokweon> Sereph: Mine worked okay hhmmm
[03:46] <Sir_Leto> Ubuntu has that built in, I believe
[03:46] <AbhijiT> hi chris__
[03:47] <suicidalminds> My .jar file is being  blocked, how do I fix that?  It wont run
[03:47] <Chipzzz> russell__: type "lsmod | grep radeon" again & make sure you have ttm, drm_kms_helper, drm, and i2c_algo_bit installed
[03:47] <impreziv> So is anyone very informed about processor endianness?
[03:47] <ubutartar> well the "built in one didnt work?
[03:47] <suicidalminds> I'm so used to Windows
[03:47] <Sereph> suicidalminds: whats the output of ls -l blahblah.jar
[03:47] <russell__> Chipzzz : nothing is returned :(
[03:48] <suicidalminds> What do you mean Sereph?
[03:48] <russell__> Chipzzz : using a 4850 card by the way
[03:48] <Gartral> impreziv: depends. most CPUs can run with both big and little endian.
[03:48] <Sereph> suicidalminds: you are in a terminal yes?
[03:48] <suicidalminds> yes, I am
[03:48] <Sereph> suicidalminds: well type ls -l /path/to/jarfile
[03:48] <Sereph> and tell me what comes up
[03:49] <suicidalminds> cannot access /downloads/
[03:49] <suicidalminds> lol
[03:49] <suicidalminds> I don't know what I'm doing ?
[03:49] <Sereph> ls -l /downloads
[03:49] <suicidalminds> same message, no such file or directory
[03:49] <Chipzzz> russell__: I have a HD 2400 that tried it's best do drive me nuts ;)
[03:49] <apet4u> I Believe the problem to be with my wireless card is that its not encrypting correctly
[03:50] <apet4u> can anyone please help me?
[03:50] <Sereph> suicidalminds: what is /downloads
[03:50] <coraxx> hey all.  When logging in to Ubuntu after selecting a specific language/country, it asks if I want to "Update names" or "Keep old names" (home directories names) ... if I accidently choose "Update names" and wont to reverse that to the original English, how do I do that ? ....anyone ?
[03:50] <suicidalminds> that's the folder or location of where the file is located
[03:50] <coraxx> *want
[03:50] <Sereph> suicidalminds: well why dont you have permission to view it
[03:50] <russell__> Chipzzz : haha! any ideas where to go with this mate? nothing is displayed on lsmod still
[03:50] <suicidalminds> i have no idea?
[03:50] <suicidalminds> i typed dir and it shows up
[03:51] <Sereph> suicidalminds: there is no dir command in linux
[03:51] <Chipzzz> russell__: don't worry, we'll get it working... try typing "lsmod | grep fglrx" & see if the ati drivers got loaded instead
[03:51] <Sereph> oh wait there is
[03:51] <Sereph> huh
[03:51] <suicidalminds> oh, well, it worked in the terminal
[03:51] <Sereph> i thought that was a dos thing
[03:51] <Sereph> ls is better
[03:52] <russell__> Chipzzz : yeh fglrx                2703937  43
[03:52] <suicidalminds> it is, i've used it before in dos
[03:52] <suicidalminds> tried it on ubuntu lol
[03:52] <suicidalminds> so how do i run this .jar java file?
[03:52] <Sereph> suicidalminds: pm me please
[03:53] <ubutartar_> k..
[03:53] <suicidalminds> ok
[03:53] <apet4u> please can anyone help me with this wireless card issure
[03:53] <apet4u> issue?
[03:53] <apet4u> 8
[03:53] <gaelfx> apet4u: what driver are you using?
[03:53] <apet4u> ath5k
[03:54] <gaelfx> apet4u: and what kind of car is it?
[03:54] <gaelfx> *card
[03:54] <apet4u> atheros ar5006eg
[03:54] <Chipzzz> russell__: I thought so.... hang on just a minute... I'll brb
[03:54] <coraxx> hey all. When logging in to Ubuntu after selecting a specific language/country, it asks if I want to "Update names" or "Keep old names" (home directories names) ... if I accidently choose "Update names" and want to reverse that to the original English, how do I do that ? ....anyone ? (that should be an easy one for you teckies :-) )
[03:55] <apet4u> gaelfx: i found a site that sapported it but couldnt find a fix
[03:57] <apet4u> im having problems with secured networks if its WPA i cannot connect at all and WEP will let me connect but after a while i get kicked off and have to reboot to get it to connect again
[03:57] <russell_1> Chipzzz : Sorry about that - back now
[03:57] <Sheldon> 这里有人了解锐捷吗?
[03:57] <qwerty1> so at install of 10.04 its says initramfs unable to find medium conatinig a live file system...built in commands....what do I type?
[03:57] <coraxx> apet4u: have you tried to install the "backport-kernel-modules" package ? ...just curious.
[03:57] <AbhijiT> !cn | Sheldon
[03:58] <apet4u> dont think so
[03:58] <Chipzzz> russell_1: Me too... got it figured out... will give you the commands
[03:59] <Chipzzz> russell_1: start out with "sudo su" so you don't have to sudo everything
[03:59] <russell_1> Chipzzz : fantastic, thanks mate
[03:59] <apet4u> coraxx: were can i find those?
[03:59] <joljam>  I am getting the  message "Unable to seek on /dev/sda" when  use sudo fdisk -l in ubuntu lucid
[04:00] <coraxx> apet4u: ever since the ath5k and its predessesor was includes in the kernel modules they have been nothing but trouble ... some of the fixes (not all) how been known to be included in the backport-packages (used it once myself, when I couldn't even get the card to work at all)
[04:00] <Chipzzz> russell_1: then "/usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh", "apt-get remove --purge fglrx*", "apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
[04:01] <Chipzzz> russell_1: that will get rid of all the old junk
[04:01] <russell_1> Chipzzz : /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh: No such file or directory
[04:02] <apet4u> coraxx: Im willing to try it... cause it seems to work fine as long as the connection is unsecured
[04:02] <Chipzzz> russell_1: excellent!... continue
[04:02] <russell_1> Chipzzz : then cannot locate any of the packages
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> joljam: sounds like a bad drive. I'd grab the ultimate boot cd and test the drive using the manufacturers tool
[04:02] <gaelfx> apet4u: those backports are most easily found in Synaptic
[04:02] <apet4u> thankies ill go fetch them
[04:02] <gaelfx> apet4u: just search for backports ath
[04:03] <russell_1> Chipzzz : ok - then it removed a couple
[04:03] <coraxx> apet4u: in the repository you should find something like "linux-backports-modules-wireless-" (and the depeding on your Ubuntu dist, the name of it)
[04:03] <Chipzzz> russell_1: install the new stuff with: "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati", "apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri", "apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core"
[04:03] <joljam> ActionParsnip To begin with.. I got this message when I noted that my sd card was not detected...
[04:04] <Chipzzz> russell_1: and finally, reconfig it all with: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:04] <coraxx> apet4u: is it installed on a HP Laptop ...just curious as some of them have problem with that card.
[04:04] <Gartral> !clone
[04:04] <coraxx> hey all. When logging in to Ubuntu after selecting a specific language/country, it asks if I want to "Update names" or "Keep old names" (home directories names) ... if I accidently choose "Update names" and want to reverse that to the original English, how do I do that ? ....anyone ? (come on guys...that's gotta be an easy one ...are you really gonna avoid an easy one)
[04:04] <apet4u> coraxx: its an ACER Aspire5520
[04:05] <joseph__> I have a minor problem. Whenever I use the folder shortcuts in Places, it redirects me to the archive manager instead.
[04:05] <ohsix> coraxx: log back in in english and it should ask the same thing
[04:05] <coraxx> apet4u: ah ok...no worries then
[04:05] <russell_1> Chipzzz : ok ran them all
[04:05] <tator> i just loaded ubuntu so far i dont like it thinking about trying suse linux
[04:05] <Chipzzz> russell_1: and the dpkg-reconfigure?
[04:06] <coraxx> ohsix: it doesn't  (if it was _that_ easy ...I would be embarrased to be here ;-) )
[04:06] <ubutartar_> ok if i apt-get swiftfox and it tells me its not there, i have no internet right?
[04:06] <tator> downloading suse now
[04:06] <russell_1> Chipzzz : yeh, no result, just ran without error :)
[04:06] <Chipzzz> russell_1: excellent... cross your fingers & reboot
[04:07] <ohsix> coraxx: try running xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update
[04:07] <semitones> Hey -- I'm looking for a replacement for gnome-panel to replicate some of the useful features of the windows 7 taskbar, namely the ability to group program windows together and show full previews when you hover your mouse over the icon. Is DeskbarX a good program for that, or should I use something else?
[04:07] <ubutartar_> xD
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> ubutartar_: http://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm
[04:07] <ohsix> coraxx: it's the same thing thats run with your session
[04:07] <coraxx> ohsix: I did ...and it didn't work ...it didn't change the dirs
[04:07] <russell_1> Chipzzz : haha, thanks mate, ill be back shortly :)
[04:07] <ohsix> coraxx: what did the directories actually change to?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> semitones: http://deviceguru.com/making-ubuntu-look-like-windows-7/
[04:08] <Chipzzz> russell_1: I have my fingers crossed too ;)
[04:08] <apet4u> coraxx: I cannot find any that are specificly for ATH
[04:08] <ubutartar_> ActionParsnip: yea thats the command we used exactlym in the second part, without doing the first
[04:08] <coraxx> ohsix: The Danish names ....  the critical one is the "Desktop" which is now reffered to as "Skrivebord"
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> ubutartar_: then you need to either add the repo, or use the deb file
[04:09] <coraxx> apet4u: I'm not sure what you mean ...what do you mean ?
[04:09] <semitones> ActionParsnip, Thanks, but I've already looked at that. I'm interesed in if anyone has first hand experience using something like DeskbarX :)
[04:09] <ubutartar_> ActionParsnip: i'm trying to get this human to do this and he keeps being add and shutting the pc down...
[04:10] <ubutartar_> he's running off a usb stick..
[04:10] <apet4u> coraxx: I went to the Synapitc package manager and typed in what you told me to search and got 0 results
[04:10] <ohsix> coraxx: it looks like you have to change the default language again to do it
[04:10] <Osmodivs> If I reinstal Xorg, Will all my settings be reseted?
[04:10] <coraxx> apet4u: please (re)type what you've search for
[04:10] <Gartral> how do i install a local deb in command line? gdebi is gone.
[04:11] <ohsix> coraxx: there's also .config/user-dirs.locale and user-dirs.dirs
[04:11] <ubutartar_> firefox and network probably arew getting scattered all over the drive..
[04:11] <russell__> Chipzzz : it booted, how can I check ? lsmod?
[04:11] <apet4u> coraxx: " Backport ath"
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> semitones: do you mean dockbarx?
[04:11] <Chipzzz> russell__: yup... lsmod | grep radeon
[04:11] <coraxx> ohsix: YES ...that was one of the things I was looking for...the damn location of the setting...thanx man...let me just check it out
[04:11] <ohsix> coraxx: strace is your friend
[04:11] <russell__> Chipzzz : Nothing :*(
[04:11] <Gartral> how do i install a local deb in command line? gdebi is gone.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> semitones: I've used that script before, just for a giggle
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:12] <russell__> Chipzzz : is it related to xorg.conf?
[04:12] <Chipzzz> russell_: scary!
[04:12] <ubutartar_> does ubuntu support wifi n yet?
[04:12] <coraxx> apet4u: (if you noticed, I did not ask for you to search for "ATH" at any time...some other chatter said that ...please look at my search string again)
[04:12] <semitones> ActionParsnip, yeah, docbarx. What did I say lol
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Gartral: deb files which are double clicked now open in software centre
[04:12] <Jordan_U> ubutartar_: Yes, and it has for a while.
[04:12] <ubutartar_> rly? how and how long?
[04:12] <coraxx> ohsix: strace ?
[04:13] <semitones> ActionParsnip, what was your experience with it?
[04:13] <joseph__> Hello all. I'm just looking how to fix my shortcut folders in Places. Whenever I click on them, I get sent to the archive manager instead of the folder I want.
[04:13] <ohsix> coraxx: it traces system calls, try strace xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update
[04:13] <Jordan_U> ubutartar_: Of course not all wireless cards are supported. I believe all Atheros cards have full support, including N hardware.
[04:13] <Chipzzz> russell__: try lsmod | grep fglrx
[04:13] <ubutartar_> woot
[04:13] <russell__> Chipzzz : yeh, its still there :(
[04:14] <ubutartar_> so netgear router with a pc using atheros ap is good and should work?
[04:14] <nogh_n95> Ii
[04:14] <nogh_n95> Hi
[04:14] <Chipzzz> russell__: I don't understand... we purged it...
[04:14] <apet4u> coraxx: sry :3 your right
[04:14] <russell__> Chipzzz : the thing is, x is kinda running in low graphics mode with just the terminal - don't know if that has anything to do with that
[04:14] <coraxx> apet4u: no worries :-)
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> semitones: was ok, does what it says on the tin
[04:15] <coraxx> ohsix: that sound _REALLY_ cool ...I just gotta try it out right now
[04:15] <ohsix> coraxx: it's handy for finding what programs are touching without having to dig through a bunch of documentation for info you might never find
[04:15] <semitones> ActionParsnip, alright. I'm just trying to gauge if it was buggy or anythng like that before i install it :P
[04:16] <SprocketsTheAmaz> Is there a hot key for switching desktops
[04:16] <AegisX> Hi guys. I'm trying to create two columns in OpenOffice Writer and the lines in each column don't align... is there any way to fix this?
[04:16] <ohsix> SprocketsTheAmaz: control alt left/right?
[04:16] <SprocketsTheAmaz> you sir or madam are ahero among geeks
[04:16] <coraxx> ohsix: exactly...it sounds too good to be true...just checking it ...(I'm strating my virtuall environment...just to see 4 myself ;-) )
[04:16] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help
[04:16] <Chipzzz> russell__: try ctrl-alt-f1 so the machine is in a terminal & re-do the previous steps... maybe it couldn't do the uninstall because of that
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> semitones: your experience may be totally different
[04:17] <apet4u> coraxx: Do i download all the ones for my version of Ubuntu?
[04:17] <Chipzzz> russell__: it should have said something if it didn't have the necessary permissions, though
[04:18] <coraxx> apet4u: no...just the generic  (not the kernel specific)
[04:18] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help
[04:18] <apet4u> Coraxx: okie thankies
[04:19] <coraxx> ohsix: Thanx a milliion ...it ALWAYS a pleasure to learn about new tools ...specially those that helps diagnose thing ...thanx !!!!
[04:19] <russell__> Chipzzz : yeh - I've stopped gdm now - ill try again :/
[04:19] <Chipzzz> russell__: when the machine boots, it will give preference to the ati drivers if they are there, so they have to be purged
[04:20] <intok> Will Ubuntu PPC have any trouble installing over my Debian Squeeze install? Will I have to recut the partitions?
[04:20] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help
[04:20] <russell__> Chipzzz : can I run sudo apt-get remove fglrx?
[04:20] <russell__> Chipzzz : as this removes 124mb!
[04:20] <gaelfx> intok: without knowing your current partition setup, that's pretty hard to say
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[04:21] <ubuntu_> yes
[04:21] <Brian> hello
[04:21] <Guest52604> hello.
[04:21] <Guest52604> i am having an issue with instaling ubuntu 10.10
[04:21] <Chipzzz> russell__: by all means... fglrx is the ati driver... and you have to do "sudo apt-get remove --purge flgrx*" (don't forget the *)
[04:22] <Guest52604> I am at the part where u enter in ur username informatio with password
[04:22] <Guest52604> when i enter everything in.. it will not let me click forward
[04:22] <Guest52604> the message at the bottom says ready when u are
[04:23] <bonjoyee> hello:)
[04:23] <Guest52604> ive entered the username and pass to register with but it will not let me go any further.
[04:23] <russell__> Chipzzz : OK, its doing that now, what was the reconfigure command again once I've done this - before the reboot
[04:23] <maxmouse> <.<;
[04:24] <Chipzzz> russell__: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org"
[04:24] <apet4u> coraxx: thank you for all your help i wont be able to check if it works till laiter
[04:24] <apet4u> coraxx: but if it dont ill be back here :3
[04:25] <ubuntu_> actionparsnip: http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU
[04:25] <coraxx> apet4u: you're welcome...I hope it works
[04:25] <esmirlin> bodhilinux !!
[04:25] <russell__> Chipzzz :- I think I need the install commands again as it can't find the re-configure package - sorry mate, ill note them down this tiem :p
[04:25] <apet4u> coraxx: Me too well im out peace
[04:26] <Blueleaf> hello all
[04:26] <Chipzzz> russell__: no problem... I'm getting them from a file myself ;)
[04:26] <maxmouse> hello blueleaf
[04:26] <Blueleaf> how do i get full use out of my toshiba satellite keyboard on ubuntu -o
[04:26] <Prinler> Blueleaf, hammer
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: ubuntu_: if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: see where you went wrong....
[04:27] <Chipzzz> russell__: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati", "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri", "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core"
[04:27] <Blueleaf> Prinler: hammer?? -o
[04:28] <fds4Rm5f45> What is the difference between the 10.04.1, 10.04.2, and the regular 10.04 dvd downloads?
[04:28] <gaelfx> if I manually install the latest version of Transmission, will that cause any problems if I try to upgrade later?
[04:28] <fds4Rm5f45> on the mirror servers..I had a question, can anyone please help?
[04:29] <uRock> fds4Rm5f45, the newer version will have more updates already installed
[04:29] <gaelfx> I know the ppa's make it difficult, but I was wondering if manual installs are any better?
[04:29] <ohsix> gaelfx: only with your manual install; theres a PPA with up to date versions in it if you want to just do that
[04:29] <fds4Rm5f45> ok that's what I thought, just checking..thank you
[04:29] <fds4Rm5f45> so 10.04.2 is the latest and newest, with the most installed updates?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> fds4Rm5f45: .1 and .2 have later versions of packages (saves large updates later). The DVD has more language packs and more apps available on the DVD for offline installing
[04:29] <uRock> fds4Rm5f45, welcome
[04:29] <intok> gaelfx sorry, imagshack was being a pita http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5309/screenshottjh.png
[04:29] <xangua> gaelfx: easier to add transmission ppahttps://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ppa
[04:29] <Chipzzz> russell__: before you reboot, why not check the lsmods?
[04:29] <gaelfx> ohsix: I thought that the ppa's would block an upgrade as well
[04:29] <ohsix> gaelfx: manual install puts files that aren't tracked by the package manager all over your filesystem, so it's bad
[04:30] <fds4Rm5f45> ok thank you
[04:30] <coraxx> fds4Rm5f45: because 10.04 is a Long Term Support-version ...each 6 month or so ... a sub-version is released...so when you download the ISO image and install ...you wont have to update you Ubuntu for more than 6 month behind.
[04:30] <ohsix> gaelfx: nope, the ppa will merely supersede the version in the main repos; you can remove them cleanly at any time
[04:30] <gaelfx> ohsix: gotcha, good point
[04:30] <fds4Rm5f45> oh ok I see, that makes sense. thank you for helping
[04:30] <russell__> Chipzzz :- Its still there! :(
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: i love that word :)
[04:30] <Guest52604> I am having an issue with the installation.. can anyone help me?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest52604: what release and whats happening?
[04:31] <tripelbaby> Help explain: do we defrag Ubuntu and if not why not?
[04:31] <Guest52604> I have the latest
[04:31] <Guest52604> 10.10
[04:31] <Guest52604> and I am in the point where u put the username and pass information
[04:31] <Guest52604> i entered all fields and everything is filled.. but FORWARD is not active for me to click
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest52604: use lowercase in all sections and you will be ok
[04:31] <Guest52604> i did
[04:31] <Chipzzz> russell__" copy & paste so that there can be no typos : "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*"
[04:32] <fds4Rm5f45> it is much appreciated
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest52604: I had already typed it before you'd typed that but I wanted to be sure
[04:32] <Guest52604> sry
[04:32] <Guest52604> lol
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> fds4Rm5f45: we like to help :)
[04:32] <gaelfx> intok: sorry, no imageshack in China
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest52604: its a known bug
[04:32] <JeffCBR> Guest52604: I did the same thing, and I've heard it's pretty common.
[04:32] <Guest52604> is there a way to fix it?
[04:32] <russell__> Chipzzz :- same as before - can't locate/can't find any package
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest52604: you can change it once install;ed. I believe its being resolved or is installed in Natty
[04:33] <Guest52604> ok i got it..
[04:33] <ubuntu_> http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU
[04:33] <Guest52604> ok i got it to work.
[04:33] <Guest52604> thank you!
[04:33] <Guest52604> i spent 2 hrs trying to figure this out.. -___-
[04:33] <intok>  gaelfx well that sucks... know a pic host that gets through?
[04:33] <Prinler> how can i get the command line value for a usb thumb drive?
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Prinler: sudo fdisk -l   will show the partition/s
[04:34] <bonjoyee> Prinler: value?
[04:34] <Chipzzz> russell__: "sudo update"
[04:34] <Blueleaf> anyone know how to get toshiba keyboard full function in ubuntu 10.10?? -o
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: not: sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <Chipzzz> russell__: sorry... "sudo apt-get update"
[04:35] <jrmcm> I'm having trouble upgrading to 10.10. When I start the upgrade installer it goes through to the point where it "calculating changes" then i get this message. "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[04:35] <jrmcm> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[04:35] <jrmcm>  This can be caused by:
[04:35] <jrmcm>  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[04:35] <jrmcm>  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[04:35] <jrmcm>  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[04:35] <FloodBot2> jrmcm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <Prinler> ActionParsnip,  nope
[04:35] <russell__> Chipzzz :- yeh did that a while back to see if it made any diff
[04:35] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: thanks... this thing's driving me buggy (like my DX 2400 ... lol)
[04:35] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help     http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU
[04:36] <jrmcm> @Prinler lsusb
[04:36] <Guest42907> nbm
[04:36] <mycosys> prinler ls /dev/disk/by-id/  or    by-path/   or   by-uuid/ shows all disks on the system
[04:36] <Blueleaf> okay then, see y'all -oo
[04:36] <nertil> !vpn
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Prinler: when you plug in the device, run:  dmesg | tail   the output should give clues
[04:37] <GMH> how do i check what sound card i have installed?
[04:37] <twitch> jrmcm: open synaptic and goto edit->fix broken packages
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> GMH: sudo lshw -C sound   will show the chip used
[04:38] <Guest55549> anyone know how i can easily recover data (binary stuff) from a sqllite .db?
[04:38] <gaelfx> intok: well, you'll have to recut that big piece, obviously, but it should be fine
[04:38] <gaelfx> intok: just make sure you don't go crazy and create another swap or anything like that
[04:39] <Prinler> none of thats working
[04:39] <blag> how fast (relatively) is a 64-bit guest OS running on 32-bit ubuntu?
[04:39] <gaelfx> I like the reduce, reuse and recycle method of partitioning
[04:39] <Chipzzz> russell__: want to try getting rid of it with aptitude?
[04:39] <russell__> Chipzzz :- we could try - you think that may work ?
[04:39] <jrmcm> ok thx
[04:40] <mycosys> prinler what are you actually looking for?
[04:40] <Chipzzz> it should... at least it's got a semi-GUI so you can see what's going on... type "aptitude"
[04:40] <bonjoyee> blag: a little slower than the host probably!
[04:40] <intok> well the big chunk is /home, the current table was made by the Debian Squeeze installer. Debian PPC has been too much trouble, wher so far the Ubuntu PPC port hasn't thrown up on this old Mac
[04:40] <intok>  gaelfx well the big chunk is /home, the current table was made by the Debian Squeeze installer. Debian PPC has been too much trouble, wher so far the Ubuntu PPC port hasn't thrown up on this old Mac
[04:41] <gaelfx> intok: wait, are you wanting to REPLACE the debian?
[04:41] <intok>  gaelfx yes
[04:41] <gaelfx> intok: hang on, lemme take another look
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Prinler: what is your issue?
[04:42] <Prinler> Ok, well what im trying to do is figure out if i can save my zoneminder dvr data to the usb drive. Gonna leave the drive in the computer all the time. So i need to figure out 1: where to change where the files are stored in zoneminder and 2: what the value of the usb is (example: /dev/hdd)
[04:43] <gaelfx> intok: yeah, merge the bootstrap and the 7Gs and mount that to / (and format it), then mount the /home as /home and DON'T format
[04:43] <jrmcm> Twitch: Ran fix through synaptic, no change
[04:43] <mycosys> it will mount in /media
[04:43] <GMH> okay
[04:43] <gaelfx> intok: is there any special reason you have those two werid spaces at the beginning and end of your disk?
[04:43] <mycosys> rather than changing the value in zoneminder prinler, use a symlink to where it mounts
[04:43] <gaelfx> intok: 7GB, btw, is plenty of space for Ubuntu, if that's what you were worried about
[04:44] <Prinler> mycosys
[04:44] <twitch> jrmcm: how about "sudo apt-get install -f"
[04:44] <Prinler> mycosys, symlink?
[04:44] <GMH> my sound output is abnormally low in ubuntu.  This happened after I upgraded from 7.04 to 10.04.  Googling about this problem shows that i'm not the only one.  i tried finding my model of sound card but i'm not sure if i'm taking this the right way.  Alsamixer things are all maxed.
[04:45] <niku> I'm trying to download the ubuntu vmware patch, but can't seem to download it w/ my launchpad credentials.
[04:45] <niku> could someone see if they can get to it? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=94477&d=1227872015
[04:45] <gaelfx> GMH: could you pastebin 'lspci' ?
[04:45] <jrmcm> ok let me run it
[04:45] <mycosys> symlink prinler - use 'ln -s <source location> <target location>' - makes a file appear to be in 2 places effectively
[04:45] <intok>  gaelfx Nothinging special that I can see, used a blank 250Gb drive to dual boot Debian with OS X on it's own 160Gb, lettig the debian installer make the partitions itself
[04:46] <gaelfx> intok: well, they are negligibly small, so I would just ignore them
[04:46] <GMH> gaelfx: will do, just a moment
[04:46] <semitones> what is the channel for asking questions pertaining to ubottu? (like how to submit an update for a factoid)
[04:46] <gaelfx> intok: important thing is not to format your home, unless you want to lose everything you have there
[04:46] <GMH> lspci pastebin: http://pastebin.com/a0yWCs6E
[04:46] <Scarra3> Sup
[04:46] <gaelfx> semitones: just /msg ubottu
[04:46] <Prinler> well i dont want to mirror.... Ok heres the deal, im only using a 30GB HD in my box so i dont wanna fill up my drive i use for other stuff till i can get another physical drive. So i wanna dump it over to the usb drive... its a 30gb usb :p
[04:47] <gaelfx> semitones: oops, sorry, misunderstood
[04:47] <Scarra3> Anyone happen to have a sony vaio that has an alps touchpad with ubuntu 10.10 and got the touchpad to actually work
[04:47] <semitones> would #ubuntu-irc or #ubuntu-ops be the place
[04:47] <gaelfx> slightly ot, but pastebin has a chrome extension??? sweet!
[04:47] <gaelfx> semitones: I would lean towards the former
[04:48] <semitones> gaelfx, alright. ops I think is more serious
[04:48] <gaelfx> semitones: best not to rattle certain cages
[04:48] <hipitihop> I have a built in Logitech OrbiCam on my Acer Aspire laptop model 5630. /var/log/messages regularly shows "kernel: [248670.112228] vc032x: probe of 1-4:1.0 failed with error -22" can someone please help me resolve
[04:49] <gaelfx> GMH: can you recognize which one of those lines is your audio card? It's useful for googlizing a solution
[04:49] <mycosys> prinler - it isnt about mirroring
[04:49] <semitones> gaelfx, me and the ops go waaay back :P (jk)
[04:50] <nertil> were are the ops\?
[04:50] <jrmcm> twitch: Still the same. could it be because its not an LTS release?
[04:50] <GMH> well, should be this one:
[04:50] <GMH> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[04:50] <Prinler> ok well how do i find the command for the usb device
[04:50] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help     http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU
[04:50] <twitch> jrmcm: can you paste bin me the full error output
[04:51]  * GMH googles
[04:51] <mycosys> prinler it is standard practice, leave it wher it mounts and create the storage directory with a symlink. then if it doesnt mount zoneminder will not be able to record, if you dont do it and it doesnt mount you will be unable to mount it again until you clean out the storage directory of all files
[04:51] <mycosys> !symlink |prinler
[04:52] <jrmcm> sure give me a minute
[04:52] <gaelfx> GMH: I'm looking into it to, just thought you might be able to find a solution faster than me
[04:52] <jrmcm> twitch: http://pastebin.com/HVwB2pxH
[04:53] <GMH> lemme try "upgrading alsa", whatever that entails
[04:53] <hipitihop> is there a way to to prevent a specific device listed via lsusb to not have its driver loaded or some way to disable the device ?
[04:54] <Prinler> ok well i see the syntax but i need the device location of the usb device
[04:55] <gaelfx> GMH: the easiest way is to add the backports package in Synaptic
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: you can blacklist the driver
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Prinler: sudo fdisk -l   wil show any and all disks with their partitions
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> !sound | GMH
[04:56] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, could you please elaborate, if I have device listed "Bus 001 Device 096: ID 046d:0896 Logitech, Inc. OrbiCam"
[04:56] <mycosys> prinler - so see what changes when you do 'ls /dev/disk/by-path' when you insert it
[04:56] <mycosys> should start with /media
[04:56] <lynx7os5> if your comp is duel booting win7 and ubuntu, and you decide to wipe ubuntu and start a fresh install but maybe not right away... can you still boot windows even with grub gone?
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: ok so its a webcam?
[04:56] <lynx7os5> or would i have to wipe win7 too and reinstall it?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> lynx7os5: you can use your windows CD to reinstate the bootloader]
[04:57] <Prinler> it only shows my sata drive
[04:57] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, yes, and var/logmessages frequnelty shows  "kernel: [248670.112228] vc032x: probe of 1-4:1.0 failed with error -22" so I thought just disable it
[04:57] <nRy> can someone tell me how to find the drive letter of an Intel Solid State Drive?
[04:58] <bonjoyee> hipitihop: but does the webcam work?
[04:58] <mycosys> did you use the usb in a windows machine before and not use safely remove prinler?
[04:58] <nRy> I just installed a SSD into my server but for some reason I can't seem to find it
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> nRy: linux doesn't have drive letters
[04:58] <twitch> jrmcm: and synaptic repair broken packages didn't work? edit your sources.list and hash out anything not ubuntu
[04:58] <Gnea> !googleearth
[04:58] <lynx7os5> ActionParsnip: what if i dont have the cd anymore? see my bro gave his 'old' comp to me and it sorta came as is... :S
[04:58] <gaelfx> nRy: no drive letters here
[04:58] <nRy> I need a letter like /dev/sdd
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> lynx7os5: then you can use supergrub
[04:58] <gaelfx> sheeshh, always beaten to the punch
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> nRy: then run: sudo fdisk -l
[04:58] <ohsix> nRy: udisks --dump, or look in the output of dmesg
[04:59] <Prinler> no, when i put it in my box i formated it ext 3
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322218
[04:59] <hipitihop> bonjoyee, gave up on trying to get it be useful many moons ago so have not tried recently, sometimes worked but poor res and colors etc
[04:59] <jrmcm> twitch: what????
[04:59] <gaelfx> nRy: we call it a 'path' ;)
[04:59] <ohsix> nRy: you can also look in palimpsest, it's a gui tool
[05:00] <mycosys> what is the output of dmesg prinler - put it in pastebin
[05:00] <twitch> jrmcm: cna you pastebin me the output to sudo apt-get install -f
[05:00] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: I'm experiencing a rather loud and obnoxious brain fart at the moment - what's the name of that repository that contains all of those 'extra' packages again?
[05:00] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, although that looks promising, might even get it working properly :-)
[05:00] <bonjoyee> hipitihop: i am asking because i get a similar error for my bluetooth dongle...but works fine later..
[05:00] <nRy> I am running Ubuntu 10.10 server
[05:00] <ohsix> palimpsest rules, hate the name. too hard to remember
[05:00] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help     http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU
[05:00] <nRy> I ran sudo fdisk -l and that gave me a list of drives, but I do not see an 80GB SSD
[05:00] <hipitihop> bonjoyee, I see
[05:00] <jrmcm> sure
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: medibuntu?
[05:00] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help     http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU i am running 10.10, and its new
[05:01] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: yes! thank you :)
[05:01] <Gnea> !medibuntu
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: np bro
[05:02] <Prinler> grrr some how i opened xbmc and am having issues closing it... give me a min.. sorry
[05:03] <GMH> gaelfx: how do i add backports?
[05:03] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help     http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU i am running 10.10, and its new
[05:03] <Brian_> hi.
[05:03] <nRy> does something special need to be done to detect a Solid State drive???
[05:03] <GMH> i thought backports were an entire class of packages
[05:03] <Brian_> Im having a video issue with my ubuntu..
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> GMH: in software centre
[05:03] <Brian_> when i change the resolution settings to fit my screen.
[05:03] <ubuntu_> wireless manager does not let me acess wireless networks...serveral have not gone through. please help     http://pastebin.com/rRPAnyJU i am running 10.10, and its new
[05:03] <Brian_> it gets all jumbled up
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> nRy: you just need your controllers to have a driver, it will then communicate with the IDE for you
[05:04] <jrmcm> twitch: http://pastebin.com/LzeCrvnx
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Brian_: do you mean video playback, or the whole desktop?
[05:04] <Stupendoussteve> GMH: You enable it in the software sources (updates?) configuration, same place you can choose an alternate software repository
[05:04] <Brian_> the whole desktop
[05:04] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, although that looks very old, and article claims should all work out of the box since feisty
[05:04] <Brian_> now i cant change it back.
[05:04] <Brian_> or correct it..
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: "should" is the important word.
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> Brian_: what video chip?
[05:05] <Brian_> im not sure what it is.. its one built in on this laptop
[05:05] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, ok, so do you have a laterlink to the source ? seems to be 2007
[05:06] <Brian_> its an old laptop
[05:06] <Brian_> Gateway MX3231
[05:06] <nRy> ActionParsnip: how can I check if my controller has the proper drivers?
[05:06] <lynx7os5> ActionParsnip: ok, so if i wipe out ubuntu partition which has grub one it, reinstall grub on its own partition, edit the config file and presto, windows would boot?
[05:06] <nRy> are the drivers there by default like a sata drive?
[05:07] <Brian_> ok.. this is my card
[05:07] <Brian_> S3 UniChrome Pro integrated graphics
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> nRy: sudo lshw | less       check none of the controllers report "unclaimed"   also you may want to switch the sata to legacy ide (or whatever it's called)
[05:07] <twitch> jrmcm: ok now output of "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:07] <alexhq> I have internal DNS. On my ubuntu internet addresses are resolving correctly, but I can't ping host on internal zone by dns name. nslookup works correctly, other hosts can ping everything. Any ideas?
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> lynx7os5: don't see why not :). Bit of a faff but should work
[05:07] <twitch> ubuntu_: pastebin your "lspci -v"
[05:08] <Prinler> @D"
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> alexhq: add the name to your DNS or add it in /etc/hosts
[05:08] <sog_> hi
[05:08] <mycosys> ?prinler
[05:08] <Prinler> weird
[05:08] <lynx7os5> ActionParsnip: well, guess ill give it go/try, thanks eh :)
[05:08] <Prinler> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/569919
[05:09] <sacarlson> alexhq: my guess is your other systems are using dhcp that you have setup correct but your failed system uses static address that has the wrong address in /etc/resolve.conf
[05:09] <alexhq> alexhq: ?? I have correct resolv.conf, nslookup works, just ping won't work. I don;t need custom hosts, it's a pair of cratches
[05:09] <alexhq> sacarlson: uses dhcp, and configured to use dhcp
[05:09] <mycosys> prinler - did you plug in the usb after it finished booting?
[05:09] <alexhq> sacarlson: alsow resolv.conf is correct
[05:09] <jrmcm> twitch: http://pastebin.com/sZPWDvts
[05:09] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, and make gets all sorts of errors
[05:10] <sacarlson> alexhq: well I would look in the resolve.conf to verify that it has the correct address if that is not it then I expect it might be a winbind problem
[05:10] <GMH> ...
[05:10] <gaelfx> GMH: sorry about that
[05:10] <GMH> oh screw this, i'm too tired to think of anything right now.
[05:10] <GMH> gaelfx: oh, it's okay; did you figure something out?
[05:10] <alexhq> sacarlson: I have no winbind
[05:10] <twitch> jrmcm: so it's working?
[05:10] <gaelfx> GMH: they are a class of packages, but you can select which backports you want, you only want the ALSA one
[05:10] <ubuntu_> http://pastebin.com/Ke8qGGf3
[05:10] <Brian_> anyone can help me with my vd problem?
[05:10] <ubuntu_> twitch http://pastebin.com/Ke8qGGf3
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: you could find a newer guide, looks promising though
[05:10] <gaelfx> GMH: not much really
[05:10] <jrmcm> so far so good, still running
[05:11] <sacarlson> alexhq: well then run wireshark and see where it is looking for dns then
[05:11] <GMH> oh yeah, that reminds me, is it possible to search for package names that contain both of two strings?
[05:11] <Prinler> no im not at home
[05:11] <Prinler> its been in for days
[05:11] <GMH> such as apt-cache search "alsa" AND "backport"?
[05:11] <SimonPHOENIX> How to Install Java Runtime Environment (JRE) in Ubuntu ?? im looking for in google and apt-get can not find it
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Brian_: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga     thanks
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> !java | SimonPHOENIX
[05:12] <Prinler> ok i found it
[05:12] <ubuntu_> twitch http://pastebin.com/Ke8qGGf3
[05:13] <gaelfx> GMH: yeah, that should do
[05:13] <sacarlson> alexhq: also another posibility is you have already defined the domain in /etc/hosts  that will override dns lookup
[05:13] <ohsix> SimonPHOENIX: apt-get install default-jre
[05:13] <gaelfx> GMH: I really think synaptic is the easiest way to find/use it
[05:14] <Prinler> i went to format
[05:14] <Prinler> then disk manager
[05:14] <Brian_> np
[05:14] <Brian_> no.. i dont know it..
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Brian_: its a terminal command
[05:14] <Linda> hi guys,is there a keyboar shortcut for terminal,,and where can i get a list of usefull keyboard shortcuts ?
[05:14] <Prinler> /dev/sdb1
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Linda: CTRL+ALT+T
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts | Linda
[05:15] <mycosys> prinler - so you seriously did nothing when i asked what changed when you removed and inserted it?????
[05:15]  * chalcedony smiles
[05:15] <GMH> linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.35-25-generic - Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.35 ALSA snapshots.
[05:15] <GMH> linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.35-25-generic-pae - Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.35 ALSA snapshots.
[05:15] <Linda> ActionParsnip, thanks buddy
[05:15] <GMH> there are also a pair for each of 22, 23, and 24.  which one should i get?
[05:15] <GMH> and what does -pae stand for?
[05:15] <ubuntu_> twitch http://pastebin.com/Ke8qGGf3
[05:15] <Prinler> guess you missed my comment about me not being at home?
[05:16] <Prinler> sorry man not trying to waste your time
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> GMH: pae = physical address extension
[05:16] <gaelfx> GMH: read the desc, it should tell you there is one package that you can install that will make sure you get the right one
[05:16] <Fraxtil> Is anyone else noticing a problem with the lowercase 'd' in the Ubuntu font?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> GMH: you want the linux-backports-modules-alsa-generic  or linux-backports-modules-alsa-maverick-generic however its phrased
[05:17] <GMH> how do i see the description of a package?
[05:17] <GMH> the verbose description that is
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> GMH: apt-cache search packagename
[05:18] <Fraxtil> i thought it was apt-cache show?
[05:18] <ohsix> if you view it in aptitude it shows it on its own pane or page D:
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> either will do
[05:18] <ohsix> show does it, search is a oneliner
[05:18] <GMH> okay, thank you
[05:18] <ecinx3> is there a way to reduce the sharpness abit if my monitor doesn't have that option on its menu? I like the way the text looks when i drag a window
[05:19] <soreau> GMH: You can also try apt-cache policy <pkg>. See apt-cache --help
[05:19] <ubuntu_> twitch http://pastebin.com/Ke8qGGf3 action parsnip
[05:19] <twitch> ubuntu_: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645716
[05:19] <weizhi> english , read it hard
[05:20] <Brian_> ok
[05:20] <Brian_> it tells me  S3 UniChrome Pro
[05:20] <wayfinder> my question. I can ssh to remote machine on local lan through my phone. I can remote desktop to that same computer. I can sftp via file browser gui to said machine. BUT when i open terminal and type "ssh wayfinder@host:port" i get a could not resolve hotname error. I have port forwarding set correctly on my router. I am on ubuntu 10.04, it has been awhile since i used the ssh comand but i dont remeber this problem at all. help?
[05:21] <Brian_> ActionParsnip: it says  S3 UniChrome Pro
[05:23] <Chipzzz> wayfinder: since the phone will ssh to it, the host must be ok... why not try just "ssh host" or "ssh wayfinder@host"?
[05:23] <GMH> interesting.  it tells me to install the linux-backports-modules-alsa-generic (or [thatstuff]-pae) meta-package, but such package(s) do not exist.
[05:23] <ohsix> GMH: they have the version name in it now
[05:24] <ohsix> linux-backports-modules-alsa-maverick-generic
[05:24] <ohsix> start aptitude and type /backports.*alsa ;] hit n a few times
[05:24] <Brian_> VGA compatible controller : VIA technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro P4M80
[05:24] <Brian_> is what the terminal command gave me.
[05:24] <wayfinder> Chipzzz: without port specify it goes 22 and i have config file set to diff
[05:24] <g_0_0> wayfinder or try ->  ssh -p port_number wayfinder@host
[05:24] <Brian_> then it told me my vga card. which is   S3 UniChrome Pro
 I ran  sudo lshw | less and I see one "unclaimed"
[05:25] <nRy> the drive I am trying to format is an Intel X25-M SATA SOLID-STATE DRIVE
[05:26] <wayfinder> g_0_0: that was it, knew it had to be something simple. must have glossed over that in the man pages. thnaks.
[05:26] <g_0_0> wayfinder, you're welcome
[05:30] <jrasmussen> I need to get connected to freenode on ubuntu using xchat-gnome ... how do I set it up?
[05:30] <Loshki> GMH: run 'apt-cache search linux-backports-modules' to see what's there...
[05:31] <Jordan_U> jrasmussen: It should be setup to do that as the default.
[05:31] <Brian_> ok..
[05:31] <Brian_> i really need help
[05:31] <Brian_> my video settings on my desktop is completly messed up
[05:31] <nRy> PLEASE HELP... can't find a SSD I installed
[05:31] <jrasmussen> well, not working... opened it up and got nothing....
[05:31] <nRy> I just need to figure out what drive id it is so I can format it
[05:31] <jrasmussen> no channels
[05:32] <nRy> http://pastebin.com/FUf8bV9z
[05:32] <GMH> loshki: quite a lot of stuff mainly paired alternate versions of several versions of things.
[05:32] <GMH> i've just installed linux-backports-modules-alsa-maverick-generic
[05:33] <Loshki> GMH: anything alsa-related with a version number?
[05:33] <GMH> yeah
[05:33] <GMH> wait
[05:33] <GMH> yes
[05:35] <elitheeli> Anyone use the latest Ubuntu EC2 AMI?
[05:36] <Prinler> Anyone a pro at dual monitor setup?
[05:36] <Chipzzz> nRy: what does "sudo fdisk -l" say?
[05:37] <nRy> I tried to run sudo fdisk -l and I did not see an 80GB drive listed
[05:37] <GMH> Loshki: should i be getting one oft hose instead?
[05:37] <chriss_> can anyone help with using more of my hdd for ubuntu
[05:38] <nRy> it is very odd though I see 4 500GB drives which I know I have...but then I see two 480GB drives and 2 20GB drives listed which I know are not in my server
[05:38] <gaelfx> chriss_: what exactly do you mean?
[05:38] <Prinler> nry those are partitions
[05:39] <ubuntu_> switching to fedora
[05:39] <wooter> see ya
[05:39] <nRy> ah ok! http://pastebin.com/SKhphg8D
[05:39] <nRy> this is what is listed
[05:40] <nRy> still though it does not show any 80GB drives
[05:41] <chriss_> gaelfx I have ubuntu installed on my hdd but all my files are under file system " host " everytime I start ubuntu it says I only have 25mb of space left but my hdd is a 160G
[05:41] <tonysan> how do I force a package not to be upgrade by apt-get upgrade?
[05:41] <bastidraZor> !pinnging | tonysan
[05:41] <Chipzzz> nRy: it shows sdd, which does not have a valid partition table, though
[05:41] <bastidraZor> !pinning | tonysan
[05:42] <Jordan_U> chriss_: I assume that you installed "within Windows" using Wubi?
[05:42] <chriss_> Jordan yes I did
[05:42] <chriss_> jordan was that wrong
 where?
[05:44] <tonysan> bastidraZor: thanks!
[05:44] <Chipzzz> nRy: line 55 of the last pastebin
[05:45] <chriss_> Jordan_U is there a way to undo that?
[05:45] <nRy> the drive I am looking for is an 80GB solid state drive
[05:45] <abhinav_singh> i have 32 bit machine ..can i install 64 bit ubuntu on it?
[05:46] <Prinler> Can ubuntu support video +sound over HDMI cables?
[05:46] <xangua>  abhinav_singhif you want to
[05:46] <Jordan_U> chriss_: It's not wrong per-se, it's just that Wubi has some disadvantages relative to a normal dual boot install where Ubuntu gets its own partition.
[05:47] <ohsix> Prinler: yes
[05:47] <kevdog> my advice -- dual boot and don't do wubi -- in fact I'd do a vm before wubi
[05:47] <abhinav_singh> xangua ..i mean it will not give any error right
[05:47] <Chipzzz> nRy: sorry, it was line 33... if you unplug the drive, I'll bet all your drives with bad partition tables go away
[05:48] <chriss_> Jordan_U is there anything I can do or even undo the wubi install
[05:49] <Jordan_U> chriss_: You can uninstall Wubi and install Ubuntu normally. You'll have to be sure that there are no files within wubi that you haven't copied somewhere else first.
[05:49] <KXTwo> hey guys im using the default cd/dvd creator that came with ubuntu and its not telling me how much space I have on my disk before I click write to disc?
[05:50] <KXTwo> and its not giving me an option to write an audio cd?
[05:50] <nRy> haha Chipzzz....I just realized that I had the wrong sata cable plugged into it
[05:50] <kevdog> just a guess, but what format are you trying to write -- bin/cue?
[05:50] <nRy> the eSata cable was plugged in which is going to nothing
[05:50] <ohsix> KXTwo: start brasero and pick an audio project
[05:50] <Chipzzz> nRy: lol
[05:50] <nRy> I feel dumb....what a waste of time
[05:51] <KXTwo> gracias
[05:51] <KXTwo> youd think by this stage that the default programs would be more user friendly! lol
[05:51] <speedrunnerG55> what is disc janitor for?
[05:51] <chriss_> Jordan_U I just installed it and I don't think there are any files anywhere else how do I go about uninstalling wubi?
[05:51] <nRy> is it dangerous to plug the correct sata cable in while the server is running?
[05:51] <speedrunnerG55> i am havving troubble upgradding to 10.10
[05:52] <Chipzzz> nRy: I don't think so but I wouldn't anyway ;)
[05:52] <ohsix> nRy: the chipset might not like it if it's not marked as an eSATA port
[05:52] <ohsix> nRy: but generally it works, might as well reboot to avoid a problem though
[05:52] <ubuntu_> switching to fedora
[05:53] <nRy> okay thanks
[05:53] <PetePorty> speedrunnerG55: "I'm having trouble" isn't really a good way to ask for help. Error messages? Symptoms? What's wrong, mate, you need to help us help you.
[05:53] <Chipzzz> :)
[05:55] <kevdog> troll
[05:55] <Jordan_U> chriss_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[05:55] <Chipzzz> kevdog: lol
[05:55] <{bosco}> i want to password protect a thumb drive how do i do that so it is backwords compatable in linux and windows ??
[05:55] <kevdog> I'm sick of that guy -- repeats the same SH*T like once every 10 minutes
[05:55] <{bosco}> sorry thought it didnt send
[05:56] <chriss_> Jordan_U thanks
[05:56] <Chipzzz> kevdog: maybe he's a bot
[05:56] <Jordan_U> chriss_: You're welcome.
[05:56] <kevdog> bosco: bunch of different ways, but off the top of my head would be to use a TrueCrypt container
[05:56] <kevdog> Chipzzz: a bot that is a f****r
[05:57] <Chipzzz> kevdog: rofl... don't feed it & it'll get tired & go away
[05:57] <ohsix> having trouble
[05:58] <ohsix> kevdog: truecrypt is badstuff
[05:58] <kevdog> I'll starve it, put it on a hunger strike, and then tempt it with a Beggin' strip just to smack it in the mouth
[05:58] <ohsix> wikipedia meta article on drive encryption is a friend
[05:58] <Chipzzz> ohsix: why is truecrypt bad?
[05:59] <kevdog> ohsix: well what other way would you suggest if windows compatibility is needed?
[05:59] <ManateeLazyCat> I have try apt-p2p, why all download is from repository, not from apt-p2p peer? No apt-p2p user?
[05:59] <ohsix> kevdog: i'll find the name of the good one, in sort ecryptfs is mountable on windows
[06:00] <kevdog> ecryptfs for windows -- you sure about that?
[06:01] <sparr> I've got two Ubuntu machines on a LAN. What's the easiest way to share files between them?
[06:01] <ohsix> kevdog: freeofte
[06:01] <kevdog> let me look at that, brb
[06:01] <th0r> sparr: map network drives in each
[06:02] <mal10c> sparr: i would use ssh and use the connect to server option to map a folder
[06:02] <ohsix> Chipzzz: you might as well not run truecrypt if you want the benefits of encryptions & obfuscation
[06:02] <earthmeLon> sparr SAMBA is windows-like/compatible file sharing
[06:02] <th0r> ohsix: have you more words of wisdom like those?
[06:03] <earthmeLon> sparr, you can also use scp from the command line if you have openssh server installed on both pcs
[06:03] <Chipzzz> ohsix: thanks, I'll keep it in mind & check into freeOFTE
[06:03] <bastidraZor> sparr: install openssh-server on both and then you can use Places > Connect to Server > via SSH .. it'll put a link on your desktop (if you checkmark the bookmark option for fast mounting) and you can drag and drop.
[06:04] <th0r> Chipzzz: do yourself a favour and check into truecrypt
[06:04] <sparr> mal10c: can you be more specific? which application would I do that in?
[06:04] <sparr> earthmeLon: I'm having trouble using the built-in SMB sharing because the files are on a dmask=077 mount so it can't set the desired permissions
[06:04] <mal10c> sparr: actually bastidraZor did a good job explaining it
[06:04] <ohsix> kevdog: but freeofte is just for the windows side of things, native linux things do the rest
[06:05] <Chipzzz> th0r: Ok... I'll check it out as well... didn't mean to start a war ;(
[06:05] <earthmeLon> bastidraZor, does that use sshfs?
[06:05] <sparr> bastidraZor: ok, the machine shows up in Places > Network, how can I get its IP from that?
[06:05] <bastidraZor> earthmeLon: yes
[06:05] <ohsix> Chipzzz: if you're going to bother encrypting things you might as well use something thats not open to just about every trivial crypto attack there is
[06:05] <kevdog> how about just nfs?
[06:06] <ManateeLazyCat> Anyone use apt-p2p here? I try apt-p2p, but haven't any data download from p2p . :(
[06:06] <bastidraZor> sparr: you can use its hostname.local
[06:06] <kevdog> this freeofte thing -- looks like an update hasn't been pushed in a while?
[06:06] <ohsix> also, truecrypt on the linux side of things is very ugly
[06:07] <sparr> I don't have admin credentials on the server that has the files I want to access from the other computer. I may be stuck using the built-in SMB sharing
[06:07] <sparr> how can I get around the permissions problem?
[06:07] <Chipzzz> I'll see what the exalted symantec has to say about disk encryption... they'll know (rofl)
[06:07] <pratik_narain> I have problem booting with ubuntu 10.10 live cd. help plz
[06:08] <earthmeLon> what's wrong with cryptfs?
[06:08] <ohsix> Chipzzz: disk encryption in general is bullshit; but the novelty of some encrypted area is not
[06:08] <drexl> pratik_narain: what's the problem? I'm no expert but I got it installed..
[06:08] <sparr> earthmeLon: so, I'm using SAMBA, configured from the default GUI "Sharing" dialogs. the problem is that it wants to change permissions on the shared files, but my user can't change those permissions
[06:08] <bastidraZor> sparr: you still need to proper permissions regardless of what protocol you use.  have the server admin add you to the group and give you group permissions to access the files.
[06:09] <ohsix> convenience is too in the way for a whole volume, but for a planned area it's a concious thing to move things in and out, provide authentication information and all that
[06:09] <earthmeLon> sparr, Are you able to connect/see files?
[06:09] <kevdog> ohsix: Unless you are trying to hide p0rn from the canadian mounties -- remember story about such a man about 2 years ago who got caught -- cops turned his computer off -- when rebooted entire computer was encrypted -- courts couldn't compel him to give up password --
[06:09] <ohsix> kevdog: heh in canada they can compel passwords, as anywhere else
[06:09] <th0r> kevdog: we shouldn't feed the trolls
[06:10] <pratik_narain> drexl: actually I've installed ubuntu on the same pc using the same dvd and drive. But now when i'm booting, it just gives me blank screen with blinking cursor after the menu to select try ubuntu.
[06:10] <gaelfx> kevdog: or hide it from a crazed ex/wife/other type of partner
[06:10] <ohsix> in canada its even harsher than in the US
[06:10] <sparr> earthmeLon: I can connect and see the names of the shares, but can't mount them, presumably because the permissions on the sharing machine are incorrect
[06:10] <ohsix> encryption is for plausible deniability
[06:10] <ishimeru> good evening folks
[06:10] <sparr> bastidraZor: my user has permission to access the files, but not to change permissions on the files
[06:10] <ohsix> or slowing down your entire disk, depending on how cool you are
[06:10] <Chipzzz> ohsix: lol
[06:11] <bastidraZor> sparr: once you get them to your box you can then change the permissions, if need be.
[06:11] <kevdog> cant you use cryptfs mounting it over sshfs
[06:11] <drexl> pratik_narain: I had the exact same problem, the live portion of the distro did not work at all, I could only install
[06:11] <Chipzzz> like everything, encryptoin has its place
[06:11] <earthmeLon> sparr, did the 'server' set up samba so that your user can access those shares?
[06:11] <ohsix> Chipzzz: its for stuff that you can't let out of your possession without concious effort
[06:12] <sparr> bastidraZor: I can't get to them, because my "client" computer can't mount the shares from the "host" computer
[06:12] <ohsix> which is generally not a lot
[06:12] <pratik_narain> drexl: Is it a known issue.
[06:12] <kevdog> I thought plausible deniability required that the encryption key was somehow released to the masses -- so in essence when your key was found you could say a bunch of other people had this too
[06:12] <drexl> pratik_narain: don't know..
[06:12] <sparr> earthmeLon: it's the default ubuntu 10.10 samba configuration. my user has permission to create shares, and can access the files in question
[06:12] <hypatia> kevdog: that's a different PD scenario
[06:12] <drexl> pratik_narain: do you have areally old crappy computer like me?
[06:13] <Chipzzz> ohsix: you sound impassioned on the subject, are you in the security field?
[06:13] <ohsix> kevdog: plausible deniability is being able to say something is there and someone not being able to prove otherwise beyond reasonable doubt
[06:13] <pratik_narain> drexl: actually I just have to restore grub as I've installed win7 on the same computer. Is there any way I can do it without the live disk?
[06:13] <th0r> Chipzzz: I hope not
[06:13] <pratik_narain> drexl: btw, old computers are not necessarily crappy
[06:13] <ohsix> Chipzzz: god no, i just wanted to know which ones were for show; and if any of them were actually usable
[06:13] <hypatia> so in this case, PD is having a second password that will open a partition / account / whatever that has innocuous files instead of the real files
[06:13] <ohsix> th0r: ru a hax0r
[06:14] <th0r> ohsix: no...I do serious computer work
[06:14] <earthmeLon> sparr, have you added users to samba?
[06:14] <drexl> pratik_narain: use another live distro I guess.. I luv my old shitbox
[06:14] <Chipzzz> ohsix: so you did a fair amount of homework on the subject?
[06:14] <ohsix> hypatia: or several, or one; or not having much that can be subject to statistical attacks to reasonably be expected to be an encrypted area, subject to search
[06:14] <jon_athon> anyone know a good AVI converter?
[06:14] <ecinx3> is it possible to use a gui app from my laptop on this computer? with all the settings and plugins from the laptop? in this case gvim
[06:14] <ohsix> th0r: truecrypt is srs bidnezz omg
[06:15] <sparr> earthmeLon: I am not the admin on that computer, so I am not sure. My user can create shares, and those shares appear on the network to other computers, so I think the answer is yes
[06:15] <ohsix> th0r: if you don't know about the attacks truecrypt is open to i don't think you have much room to speak on the subject
[06:15] <pratik_narain> drexl: I'll try so. Right now, I'm posting the problem on the forums. Lets see if anybody replies.
[06:15] <nixjr> how can i tell if the "flashplugin-installer" in the package manager is amd64 and not 32bit?
[06:15] <earthmeLon> sparr, do you have admin access the the server?
[06:15] <semitones> Is it possible to have the "applications / places / system " menus, but take away the text labels and replacing them with symbols (to save space)
[06:15] <ohsix> knowing the bad parts of anything is how you tell if it's fit for purpose; or for show
[06:15] <semitones> I already know about the "main menu thing"
[06:16] <kevdog> truecrypt has been compromised? Didn't hear of that but interesting
[06:16] <sparr> earthmeLon: no
[06:16] <sparr> earthmeLon: however, the admin has given me (or I always had by default, not sure which) the ability to create shares
[06:16] <ohsix> kevdog: not compromised, it's a different thing to attack it
[06:16] <earthmeLon> sparr, in order for you to access files on the server, the server needs to be configured non-default
[06:16] <hypatia> ohsix: are you talking about the cold boot attack or something else?
[06:17] <drexl> pratik_narain: I don't know how your computer is setup but you might try to boot in failsafe mode and then grub-install /dev/sdx x being the boot sector of a device
[06:17] <ohsix> kevdog: while encryption gets you encrypted things with a password to access it, you can also detect encrypted areas and do things like let the system encrypt things for you and discover what it's doing
[06:18] <ohsix> hypatia: not really, key/password compromise is much easier with a human in play; no need for shenanigans ;]
[06:18] <kevdog> Oh I knew tc containers or volumes were detectable
[06:18] <pratik_narain> drexl: yeah, but there is no visible failsafe mode on the 10.10 boot menu.
[06:18] <hypatia> ohsix: rubber hose crypto?
[06:18] <sparr> earthmeLon: I am already able to access files on the server, in directories that my user can change permissions on
[06:18] <maco> hypatia: "up your nose with a..."?
[06:18] <ohsix> or just calling them and asking them, heh
[06:18] <nixjr> how can i tell if the "flashplugin-installer" in the package manager is amd64 and not 32bit?
[06:19] <sparr> earthmeLon: my problem is remote access to directories my user on the server has access to, but can't change permissions on
[06:19] <ohsix> or knowing their mothers name, or their dogs
[06:19] <hypatia> ohsix: we shall now call that the "hbgary attack"
[06:19] <hypatia> hehe
[06:19] <th0r> Chipzzz: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/brazil_banker_crypto_lock_out/
[06:19] <maco> hypatia: it was used on paris hilton too! nobody knows her dog's name is tinkerbell!
[06:19] <hypatia> i am stuck in europe and need to login to the server, can you turn off the firewall and change the password to changeme123?
[06:19] <earthmeLon> sparr, even though you can view or modify a file in samba, you have to be in the group or owner of the file in order to modify the permissions
[06:19] <hypatia> kthx.
[06:19] <ohsix> but this is getting OT to a large degree, not knowing about truecrypt, what it purports to do, and what downsides it has, and at the same time recommending it is silly
[06:20] <bastidraZor> nixjr: it will use whatever arch you've installed.  its available in both 32 and 64bit.
[06:20] <ohsix> th0r: that's great in brazil! but if people know you have encrypted information and are witholding it its practically very different in many regions of the world
[06:20] <Chipzzz> th0r: very impressive!
[06:20] <AegisX> Has anyone ever had a stuck pixel and fixed it?
[06:20] <drexl> pratik_narain: O sorry I thought you had ubuntu installed with a grub generated menu
[06:20] <rww> nixjr: You can ask #ubuntu, and we will tell you that the 64-bit package of flashplugin-nonfree is the 32-bit plugin in nspluginwrapper, because there is no stable/supported 64-bit flash plugin.
[06:21] <ohsix> AegisX: the one time it wasn't a broken driver at the edge of the panel i was able to; theres a pixel exerciser that'll rapidly change color and that can sometimes help
[06:21] <pratik_narain> drexl: no probs, thnx anyway
[06:21] <ohsix> AegisX: i don't know of one for ubuntu but there was a javascript one you could run in a browser ...
[06:21] <gaelfx> rww: there really is no difference between the two? that sucks
[06:21] <th0r> Chipzzz: and look into Truecrypt's 'hidden volume'
[06:21] <earthmeLon> sparr, if you create a file, are you able to modify it's permissions?
[06:22] <nixjr> rww, ive had issues with the nspluginwrapper flooding my xsession-errors log files, how can i make sure i get a 64bit version instead?
[06:22] <th0r> Chipzzz: and keep a grain of salt handy in irc
[06:22] <ohsix> th0r: he can just read the feature page on the website if he wants to know what it says it does
[06:22] <AegisX> ohsix: Yeah, I think I know it. I left it on for 8 hours, with no results. The pixel is right in the middle of the screen, so it's kinda annoying heh...
[06:22] <rww> !flash64 | nixjr
[06:22] <ohsix> AegisX: that sucks
[06:22] <gaelfx> nixjr: the way I did it was to download the plugin straight from adobe and then  add the .so file to the appropriate folder in my home folder
[06:23] <AegisX> ohsix: I'm hesitant to try the rubbing or tapping method, but it looks like I'll have to.
[06:23] <Chipzzz> AegisX: if you google around, there's a java package that does it and an online site that does it in a web page
[06:23] <rww> nixjr: note that the methods on that page use the plugin direct from Adobe, not from Ubuntu's repos.
[06:23] <rww> or... I guess from a PPA now. heh.
[06:23] <ohsix> AegisX: mine was a hot red pixel that'd show up after cleaning every once and a while, light pressure on the center would make it appear; i rma'd right after purchase tho
[06:23] <AegisX> Chipzzz: Yeah, I think it's jscreenfix or something?
[06:24] <ohsix> AegisX: if exercising it doesn't fix it then it might not be the kind you can cajole into working
[06:24] <git__> i'm starting to hate time
[06:24] <Chipzzz> th0r: I'm less concerned about the security of my data than most but interested in the subject anyway... and I keep plenty of salt around :)
[06:24] <AegisX> ohsix: I purchased my laptop through eBay; the seller has a warranty, but I think it would be a major hassle to send it back.
[06:24] <sparr> earthmeLon: depends on the mount. if it doesnt have a umask or dmask, yes. if it does, no (not for the masked bits)
[06:25] <bastidraZor> git__: speed  yourself to the speed of light and you can stop time.
[06:25] <AegisX> ohsix: But yeah... I think it's probably time to try a physical fix -_-
[06:25] <mickster04> bastidraZor: not really accurate
[06:25] <bastidraZor> mickster04: you've tried?
[06:25] <gaelfx> bastidraZor: YOU'VE tried?
[06:25] <ohsix> Chipzzz: oddly enough wikipedia is a good enough resource for checking most of them out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encryption_software but crypto is Hard(TM) and people just using it without knowing what they're doing can compromise even well conceived systems
[06:26] <mickster04> bastidraZor: it's theoretically unsound, time doesn't change speed, your perception of it does:p
[06:26] <earthmeLon> sparr, I dont usually use samba, sorry I can't help.  bastidraZor's suggestion was an easy way to implement sshfs.  It would only require that you had an ssh account on the server
[06:26] <ohsix> bastidraZor: you'd have infinite mass if you reached c!
[06:26] <chriss_> Hey Jordan_U are you still here
[06:26] <ohsix> (a highly improbable scenario)
[06:27] <albert> 大家好
[06:27] <JeffCBR> Since there is no entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, how would I do ifdown/ifup?
[06:27] <Chipzzz> ohsix: I saw that article & plan to read it more thoroughly over my morning coffee... thank you for the suggestion, though :)
[06:27] <albert> 有中国人没
[06:27] <Jordan_U> chriss_: Yes.
[06:27] <maco> !cn  | albert
[06:27] <o2oo> hi
[06:27] <HugoKuo> !TW
[06:27] <Senjai> !tw
[06:27] <Senjai> .. nope
[06:27] <mickster04> tsk
[06:27] <ohsix> Chipzzz: even freeofte is a compromise, but it works with native things on the linux side (and being well fleshed out on the linux side, isn't ill concieved and awful :)
[06:27] <HugoKuo> what's up albert
[06:27] <Senjai> who cares about taiwan anyway
[06:27] <Senjai> lol
[06:28] <o2oo> who knows how to user remote desktop between two ubuntu computer?
[06:28] <o2oo> hi, who knows how to user remote desktop between two ubuntu computer?
[06:28] <HugoKuo> ...=.=
[06:28] <Senjai> !remote
[06:28] <HugoKuo> I care about taiwan ~ XD
[06:28] <o2oo> hi, who knows how to connect remote desktop between two ubuntu computer?
[06:28] <mickster04> o2oo: you wato see desktops or is terminal enough?
[06:28] <mickster04> !rdp
[06:28] <nixjr> rww, im trying to make sure i get rid of all traces of existing flash, the xsession-errors file refernces this file repeatidly /build/buildd/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-viewer.c:1017 however i the /build directory doesnt seems to exist
[06:28] <hypatia> o2oo: please stop repeating your question ;)
[06:28] <o2oo> mickster04,  I want to see desktop and could control
[06:28] <HugoKuo> man just use teamviewer !!!
[06:28] <o2oo> hypatia, ok
[06:29] <chriss_> Jordan_U I just deleted wubi I downloaded ubuntu from official website and saved it to cd and it installed wubi is there a different ubuntu the one I have is ubuntu 10 10
[06:29] <rww> nixjr: the flash64 page says how to remove the common locations for flash. do them and then try again
[06:29] <mickster04> o2oo: programs>internet?remote desktop viewer
[06:29] <hypatia> o2oo: system ->preferences -> remote desktop
[06:29] <mickster04> R/?/>
[06:29] <hypatia> and then what mickster04 said :)
[06:29] <rww> nixjr: I think that message is referencing the environment the plugin was built in, not your actual compuer
[06:29] <ohsix> nixjr: those are paths from the build of nspluginwrapper, you wont find them on the local computer; they're just to keep track of the file name and line for later debugging
[06:29] <gaelfx> !vnc | o2oo
[06:29] <Chipzzz> ohsix: all security is a compromise and I don't think there are any absolutes in encryption, but the schemes are getting pretty good
[06:29] <o2oo> mickster04, hypatia, but I want the login runs like ssh login
[06:30] <Jordan_U> chriss_: There is Wubi installer on the Ubuntu CD as well. To install normally you need to boot from the CD (Insert the CD into your CDROM drive and reboot the computer).
[06:30] <o2oo> ubottu,  but vnc is very slow & not real time.
[06:30] <kevdog> Tunnel X or ssh
[06:30] <mickster04> o2oo: then I assume you want xforwarding?
[06:30] <nixjr> rww, ah ok, i was just concerned since that specific file didnt seems ot be mentioned in the removal instructions on that site, now i know why
[06:30] <kevdog> tunnel x over ssh
[06:30] <ohsix> Chipzzz: you can't just tape it on and get any of the purported benefits of merely having it encrypted though; that it can't be grepped is like the smallest part of it :]
[06:30] <o2oo> mickster04, xforwarding ?
[06:30] <sparr> earthmeLon: ok, thanks
[06:30] <sparr> I'll ask again in a while
[06:30] <mickster04> o2oo: you want it over LAN or internet? and why do you want it?
[06:30] <mickster04> !xforwarding
[06:31] <o2oo> I am using LAN,
[06:31] <Jordan_U> !msgthebot | mickster04
[06:31] <mickster04> Jordan_U: thank you
[06:31] <gaelfx> mickster04: might be a good idea to /msg ubottu to test strings you're not sure of
[06:31] <Jordan_U> mickster04: You're welcome.
[06:31] <o2oo> Because I feel the VNC is too slow & is not real-time, it is just screen snapshots.
[06:31] <HugoKuo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/690215    ......................... is there any solution for this bug ?
[06:31] <zaynal> hello
[06:31] <gaelfx> I'm just too durned slow
[06:31] <mickster04> o2oo: over lan vlc is fine
[06:31] <hypatia> o2oo: on a lan it'll be plenty fast
[06:32] <mickster04> o2oo: try the remote desktop apps inculuded with ubuntu I think the ssh setting can do UI included?
[06:32] <pratik_narain> drexl: I've posted the problem on the forums. You can have a look. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692162
[06:32] <Chipzzz> ohsix: True, but pretty far OT... we'd better not clog up the intertubes with this much more ;)
[06:32] <o2oo> mickster04,  but how to config the server side of remote desktop?
[06:33] <mickster04> o2oo: preference> remote desktop
[06:33] <mickster04> o2oo: system > preferences > remote desktop
[06:34] <o2oo> mickster04, if I use ssh, it worldn't have GUI
[06:34] <ohsix> Chipzzz: if you're going to be defending your data from something, know your possible attackers
[06:34] <chriss_> Jordan_U I will be able to partition my drive that way and without affecting my windows files right ?
[06:34] <mickster04> o2oo: diud you try it with the inbuilt viewer?
[06:34] <o2oo> mickster04, yes
[06:34] <mickster04> o2oo: ok fine
[06:34] <mickster04> o2oo: so just use vlc
[06:34] <Jordan_U> chriss_: Yes.
[06:34] <mickster04> vnc*
[06:35] <o2oo> mickster04, VNC is not real-time, not good
[06:35] <chriss_> Jordan_U ok thanks I will do it now
[06:35] <Jordan_U> chriss_: Though it's always good to have important files backed up.
[06:35] <mickster04> o2oo: yes it is
[06:35] <Jordan_U> chriss_: You're welcome.
[06:35] <mickster04> o2oo: what do you need it for?
[06:35] <chriss_> Jordan_U thanks I did that
[06:35] <mickster04> o2oo: because over lan that will be fine
[06:36] <o2oo> mickster04,  I wonder if "Apps"->"internet"->"terminal server client" is the one?
[06:36] <jon_athon> how do I change process priority?
[06:37] <mickster04> o2oo: try it
[06:37] <mickster04> o2oo:  apps > internet > remote desktop viewer is what i would recommend
[06:37] <o2oo> but i don't know how to config the server side of that
[06:37] <maco> jon_athon: if you raise the niceness, it becomes nicer about yielding resources. so thatd be like "nice 10 <pid>"
[06:37] <mickster04> o2oo: system > pref > remote desktop
[06:37] <o2oo> mickster04,  remote desktop viewer is not good for me.
[06:37] <mickster04> o2oo: we have told you thie three times now
[06:37] <maco> jon_athon: if you lower it (this requires root) it becomes meaner / refuses to give up resources. that's "sudo nice -5 <pid>"
[06:37] <mickster04> o2oo: why not?
[06:37] <jon_athon> maco, yielding system resources = more run time?
[06:37] <maco> jon_athon: yielding = giving up
[06:37] <jon_athon> faster processing?
[06:38] <jon_athon> oh, i need faster processing
[06:38] <ohsix> heh
[06:38] <o2oo> mickster04, I have tried, not fast real-time enough
[06:38] <ohsix> priorities don't get you that
[06:38] <jon_athon> so lower nice?
[06:38] <jon_athon> ohsix, eh, kinda backdoor
[06:38] <hypatia> o2oo: have you tried freenx?
[06:38] <Senjai> o2oo, then install another remote desktop client, if the one provided does not suit your needs and nobody else has an opinion, one can be found using a repository or google, (nobody !google me, I already know)
[06:38] <jon_athon> higher priority of access to resources
[06:38] <maco> jon_athon: nicenss ranges from -20 to 19, iirc. DO NOT make something lower than like -15 or important system things will stop working
[06:38] <ohsix> what resources? there's io schedulers too
[06:39] <th0r> o2oo: the closest you will come to real time remote access is x forwarding
[06:39] <maco> ohsix: cpu & ram, iirc
[06:39] <kevdog> !google | Senjai
[06:39] <maco> jon_athon: ah sorry, i shouldve said renice for the command
[06:39] <qwerty1> ive downloaded 10.04 but everytime i open it with wubi it says 10.10?
[06:39] <qwerty1> whats the deal with that
[06:39] <gaelfx> what's the best vnc client to use on a windows machine for accessing an ubuntu machine?
[06:39] <maco> jon_athon: "nice" is for use when starting a /new/ process
[06:39] <jon_athon> maco, gotcha, thanks
[06:39] <Senjai> kevdog, i just said I already knew didn't I? So you just spammed the channel
[06:39] <ohsix> well the nice level doesn't play into ram, and the nice levels just help make decisions when there are a set of programs that are ready to run
[06:39] <hypatia> gaelfx: i usually use ultravnc
[06:40] <etfb> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10, upgraded from 10.04. Usually, when I click a menu item with a fly-out submenu, the submenu doesn't appear. Sometimes it draws the shadow but not the menu or its contents. Anyone else seen this behaviour recently?
[06:40] <kevdog> :p
[06:40] <ohsix> but if you want a bit more cpu, generally renicing wont get you it, unless the app is completely cpu bound, a system call will get it rescheduled
[06:41] <ohsix> if you have 2 processes that are running and you want to always favor one over the other, their relative priority is important
[06:41] <jon_athon> eh, I guess if it has already got 75% of proc... that's enough resources
[06:41] <qwerty1> ubuntu just doesnt work with my computer...i hate that...was looking forward to trying it out
[06:41] <maco> ohsix: is there a way to change io priorities? nice/renice was the only thing i ever heard of for changing resource allocation
[06:41] <o2oo> Senjai,
[06:41] <o2oo> hi
[06:41] <mickster04> qwerty1: get a livce disk?
[06:41] <ohsix> maco: ionice
[06:41] <maco> ohsix: ah excellent
[06:41] <mickster04> live*
[06:41] <maco> ohsix: thanks :)
[06:41] <gaelfx> hypatia: eh, their website seems pretty sketchy
[06:41] <qwerty1> i dont think itll work
[06:41] <ohsix> maco: same stuff applies with relative priorities tho :]
[06:41] <Senjai> o2oo, ?
[06:42] <maco> ohsix: well yeah, but most stuff runs at 0
[06:42] <o2oo> freenx could do remote desktop ssh login?
[06:42] <kevdog> yes
[06:42] <ohsix> maco: also each block scheduler does different things with the priority, so if you're going to practically use it you might want to see what its effect is on the scheduler is, or if the current oen is appropriate
[06:42] <mickster04> !who
[06:43] <Senjai> o2oo, remmina - remote desktop client for GNOME desktop environment
[06:43] <kevdog> freenx is tricky to keep going -- in my experience closes a lot -- unless I'm just running shitty computers on both ends
[06:43] <qwerty1> 10.10 installed but didnt work...10.04 failed several times and never installed....now i try to download a fresh 10.04 but 64 bit and wubi says its gonna install 10.10....so i give up
[06:43] <qwerty1> shouldnt be this difficult to do
[06:43] <mickster04> qwerty1: burn a live disk and stop with the wubi thing?
[06:43] <Senjai> o2oo, you may want to look at that, it seems to be what you need. P.s. I found that by using apt-cache search remote desktop
[06:43] <gaelfx> qwerty1: did you try a liveusb/cd
[06:43] <qwerty1> well i use windows 7
[06:44] <mickster04> qwerty1: so do i
[06:44] <gaelfx> qwerty1: same here
[06:44] <Senjai> qwerty1, I came from windows
[06:44] <kevdog> qwerty1: just install it on a second shitty computer -- much easier
[06:44] <o2oo> Senjai, so do you know what is "Terminal Server Client" for?
[06:44] <etfb> What controls the amount of time that a submenu takes to appear if you hover over its title in a menu?
[06:44] <mickster04> qwerty1: admittedly i forward planned the ubuntu install so left a bit of hdd space
[06:44] <qwerty1> there are so many different routes to take and im just confused as to what to do
[06:44] <gaelfx> qwerty1: the only thing that might be annoying is changing the boot order, but it can be done
[06:44] <hypatia> gaelfx: uvnc.com? you can also grab it off sourceforge if you prefer :)
[06:44] <marverick> oi
[06:44] <marverick> ajuda
[06:45] <Senjai> o2oo, If you need to run remote desktop in terminal only, just use ssh
[06:45] <Senjai> !ssh | o2oo
[06:45] <marverick> alguem fala portugues ?
[06:45] <marverick> brasil?
[06:45] <th0r> o2oo: tsc is a frontend for rdp and vnc
[06:45] <qwerty1> im not a computer guru so its frustrating to me
[06:45] <mickster04> qwerty1: well just boot into the disk and click try, it's not hard really?
[06:45] <kevdog> qwerty1: enough of one to do irc
[06:46] <o2oo> Senjai, I want to run rdp in graphical
[06:46] <qwerty1> mickster04...tried that it didnt work
[06:46] <mickster04> qwerty1: what do you mean?
[06:46] <mickster04> qewwhich part?
[06:46] <kevdog> qwerty1: did you verify md5 or sha1 hash
[06:46] <Senjai> o2oo, this is what you need: http://www.skullbox.net/vncserver.php
[06:47] <qwerty1> the first time it said something about busybox and initrfis or whathave you and gave a paragraph of command lines
[06:47] <mickster04> qwerty1: sounds like your disk was dodgy...
[06:47] <qwerty1> the second time it just shut off the computer
[06:47] <EmuAlert> How would I get a command to run like an executable? Like if I wanted a file named "launch google" with the command "firefox google.com", how would I...make that?
[06:48] <k4g6> qwerty1: burn the iso again at the lowest speed you burner is capable of
[06:48] <cloud_> is anybody familiar with linux bridge?or the tun/tap virtual NIC.
[06:48] <kevdog> EmuAlert: make an alias or do it through a script/alias combination
[06:48] <qwerty1> ok...also...is 10.04 64 bit the one i need since windows is 64 bit?
[06:48] <maco> EmuAlert: put #!/bin/bash           as the first line
[06:49] <[thor]> EmuAlert: from the command line or from the gui?
[06:49] <Senjai> qwerty1, you do not NEED 64 bit, you can run 32 bit on a 64 bit machine, but you loose some processing power. Though the reverse is not true
[06:49] <maco> EmuAlert: list commands under that, and then you can run it "bash filename" or run "chmod +x filename" to make it directly executable in which case either "./filename" or double clck
[06:49] <cloud_> i want to connect two linux bridge but i don't know how to do that.
[06:49] <Senjai> qwerty1, why don't you run 10.10?
[06:49] <Senjai> cloud_, the linux bridge makes me want to shoot myself haha
[06:49] <qwerty1> wifi issues
[06:50] <qwerty1> ubuntu doesnt like whats in my computer
[06:50] <Senjai> qwerty1, I see, if your processor is x86_64 install the 64 bit
[06:50] <o2oo> Thanks everyone
[06:50] <Senjai> qwerty1, Just your wireless chip :P
[06:50] <marverick> oi
[06:50] <marverick> hi
[06:50] <Senjai> o2oo, good luck
[06:50] <marverick> helpi please
[06:50] <qwerty1> its a intel i3
[06:50] <Senjai> !ask | marverick
[06:50] <marverick> in not speck inglis
[06:50] <kevdog> !kill | Senjai
[06:50] <Senjai> !es | marverick
[06:51] <scottnyc> hello just installed linux for the first time, whats the difference between emacs 23 and emacs 23 gtk?
[06:51] <Senjai> what language do you speak marv?
[06:51] <qwerty1> one more quick question
[06:51] <marverick> trank
[06:51] <Senjai> !bot abuse | kevdog
[06:51] <[thor]> scottnyc: the gtk is probably the gui version ( as opposed to command line only )
[06:51] <ohsix> OR ELSE
[06:51] <Senjai> trank?
[06:52] <qwerty1> why would it be saying that its about to install 10.10 after i download and open 10.04?
[06:52] <[thor]> scottnyc: gtk == Gnome Tool Kit
[06:52] <Senjai> whats the full name of the language marverick
[06:52] <scottnyc> thor which should i install
[06:52] <scottnyc> in your opinion
[06:52] <rww> GTK is an acronym for Gimp ToolKit.
[06:52] <[thor]> ah right..
[06:52] <rww> as in the graphics software ;)
[06:52] <kevdog> !abuse | Senjai
[06:52] <EmuAlert> maco, Got it working from the terminal with bash but how do I get it to work on double-click?
[06:52] <Senjai> kevdog, can you stop?
[06:53] <kevdog> bored cant you tell
[06:53] <[thor]> i always stuff at least both my feet in m y mouth when deconstructing acronyms.
[06:53] <ohsix> !bored
[06:53] <ohsix> take that!
[06:53] <Senjai> kevdog, then go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:53] <kevdog> ehh
[06:54] <melove> hay guys Im using gnacktrack distro it has a login terminal banner when Im login to the OS .. where can I find that banner ?
[06:54] <kevdog> !bye
[06:54] <[thor]> scottnyc: i don't think i've ever used emacs, let alone the gtk version.. i am not qualified to answer.
[06:54] <rww> melove: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu and official derivatives. Please use your distribution's support channel for support.
[06:55] <melove> rww its a ubuntu customized distro .
[06:55] <[thor]> scottnyc: that said, it wouldn't surprise me if installing the gtk version automatically installs the other one.
[06:55] <rww> melove: I'm aware. It's not a supported/official derivative.
[06:55] <melove> :/ awkay kool
[06:55] <Senjai> melove, it should have an IRC channel.
[06:56] <melove> nop it doesnt have a one
[06:56] <Senjai> melove, if not try #linux
[06:56] <Senjai> melove, or the distro help channel
[06:56] <maco> EmuAlert: chmod +x
[06:56] <rww> melove: Their website says #gnacktrack on this server.
[06:57] <maco> EmuAlert: or right click, properties, make it executable
[06:57] <rww> melove: It has a huge total of 3 people in it. This is something to consider when picking a distro ;)
[06:57] <o2oo> hi, how to config a xdmcp in the server side?
[06:57] <o2oo> hi, how to config a xdmcp in the server side??
[06:57] <Senjai> melove, switch to ubuntu :P
[06:57] <gaelfx> o2oo: easy, killer, once is enough
[06:57] <Technikfreak> where is the vnc irc channel?
[06:57] <maco> EmuAlert: if its only running one command (not a bunch) you could also make a launcher. should be able to right click the desktop and do that i think...
[06:57] <Technikfreak> #vnc doesn't work
[06:57] <Senjai> !xdmcp | o2oo
[06:57] <melove> my main os is ubuntu this is just a pentest os I wana customize
[07:00] <Senjai> melove, understandable, though we must spend our time and resources to help those using Ubuntu, as that's were our expertise lay. As this is an OFFICIAL channel our obligation is to help those with Ubuntu related problems
[07:01] <Senjai> melove, If this wasn't an official channel, I wouldn't see the probem, this is why I suggested #linux
[07:01] <EmuAlert> chmod +x "~/launch google" doesn't seem to make a difference. It does have executable checked true in properties, but double click still brings it up in gedit. Meh. A launcher that runs the file would be a bit complicated but it WOULD work, and isn't that the point of Linux anyhow? Thanks
[07:01] <Guest37546> hi
[07:01] <Senjai> EmuAlert, try chmod +u-x
[07:02] <[thor]> Senjai: i think candlejack got him
[07:02] <ohsix> emuadoes it have a hashbang line? #!/bin/bash or something like it
[07:02] <ohsix> er heh
[07:02] <sparr> I have a non-admin account on an Ubuntu 10.10 computer. When I use the Sharing dialog to share files from my desktop it works normally. When I do the same to share files from an external storage device the share isn't mountable from the network because my user can't change the permissions to make the files world readable. Other than duplicating the files, is there a solution to this?
[07:02] <silverarrow> hi
[07:03] <silverarrow> how do I get the latest java in Maverick?
[07:03] <o2oo> Senjai, how is XDMCP?
[07:03] <Senjai> o2oo, haven't tried it
[07:03] <o2oo> is it suit for me?
[07:03] <Senjai> o2oo, try it and find out? Only you can decide
[07:03] <Senjai> silverarrow, get it from the repository,
[07:03] <Senjai> !java | silverarrow
[07:03] <ohsix> silverarrow: apt-get install default-jre, will get you the latest version in maverick
[07:03] <[thor]> sparr: mount the drive with your user? ( only a guess )
[07:04] <silverarrow> thanks
[07:04] <Senjai> silverarrow, :)
[07:05] <o2oo> oh, i have to go now, busying.... leave it alone
[07:05] <Senjai> o2oo, farewell
[07:05] <ohsix> sparr: is the drive you're trying to share NTFS formatted?
[07:05] <silverarrow> both of you
[07:05] <ohsix> or rather the directory on the drive
[07:05] <silverarrow> I have been searching through packages in Package Manager, but hard to pick the right ones
[07:06] <Senjai> silver.. I just installed all the sun-java6 packages
[07:06] <Senjai> silverarrow, from the terminal give me a sec I'll get you the commands
[07:06] <RexM2> Hi guys
[07:06] <RexM2> I have a question about eth ports
[07:06] <Senjai> silverarrow, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:07] <Senjai> silverarrow, note that isn't the sdk, just the runtime, If your developing with java you'll need other packages
[07:07] <Senjai> !ask | RexM2
[07:07] <ohsix> (default-jre brings in a jre)
[07:07] <Senjai> ohsix, okay lol, I just know the way I did it
[07:08] <Senjai> silverarrow, Maybe follow ohsix
[07:08] <ohsix> ya me too
[07:08] <Senjai> silverarrow, he knows more than I
[07:08] <ohsix> sun jre has busted audio though, had to use openjdk
[07:08] <RexM2> Thanks!  Ok.. how do i find out where my wireless card is configured on my netbook? eth0 or eth1, etc?
[07:08] <silverarrow> thanks again
[07:08] <silverarrow> running terminal
[07:08] <RexM2> it is running Ubuntu 10.04 netbook
[07:08] <Senjai> ohsix, anything I use java for doesn't need audio, so I hadn't noticed
[07:08] <odracir34> is it possible to play blueray discs on a linux os with a buildin bluerayplayer
[07:08] <Senjai> RexM2, ifconfig on the terminal
[07:08] <RexM2> ok
[07:09] <silverarrow> my online bank are very fuzzy with latest version of Java, and I have't had java on ubuntu until now
[07:09] <RexM2> i did that but i couldnt make heads or tails out of the response! what should i look for?
[07:09] <Diamondcite> RexM2: If you right click on network manage and check connection information it should say.
[07:09] <Starminn> !java | silverarrow
[07:09] <Prinler> Where is my www folder?
[07:09] <Senjai> Starminn, I already ointed him that way
[07:09] <Starminn> Senjai: My apologies. :)
[07:09] <ohsix> Senjai: its a drag, cuz the sun java plugin works much better than icedtea; but i needed audio
[07:09] <Senjai> Prinler, where ever you created it? default if you install apache, /var/www/
[07:10] <Diamondcite> RexM2: Though I'm assuming you are already connected to a wifi network...
[07:10] <Prinler> ty
[07:10] <Senjai> Starminn, sorry for sounding like a *** lol I just noticed that
[07:10] <RexM2> Yes I am on a wifi network.
[07:10] <Senjai> RexM2, are you trying to find out what Card you have? or..
[07:10] <RexM2> Where do I find Network Manage
[07:10] <silverarrow> package sun java6 is not available, but is referred to by other packages...
[07:10] <Starminn> Senjai: Haha, no I didn't think you sounded like one. I understand -- I would have done the same thing. Totally understandable.
[07:11] <Senjai> Starminn, but if you just joined the channel you didn't know lol
[07:11] <Diamondcite> RexM2: Then Right Click on the Wifi icon on top, select connection information the name in the () is your wireless adapter... ie wlan0
[07:11] <RexM2> I'm trying to run Firesheep for work to detect security exposures... are you familiar with Firesheep?
[07:11] <silverarrow> I have a newly installed Maveric, it is pretty out of the box, only ran first update just now
[07:11] <RexM2> Yes, it says wlan0
[07:11] <Diamondcite> RexM2: Never heard of it, but in linux, everyday you learn something new =P
[07:12] <Senjai> RexM2, neither have I
[07:12] <Senjai> RexM2, are you new to linux? or seasoned?
[07:12] <RexM2> It is a way to detect security risks over WPA wireless networks
[07:12] <Senjai> I understand
[07:12] <RexM2> Ive used Ubuntu for a couple of months, so i might know the basics, but that is it.
[07:12] <Starminn> Senjai: Yeah I did. I usually wait and watch a bit but msot people don't invoke the bot much so botting is usually a safe bet. I should have stayed back though, so no hard feelings man. :)
[07:13] <Zeu5> hi there, i am having problems with this could not update ~/.ICEauthority
[07:13] <Prinler> when i try to move things to the www folder it says permission denied
[07:13] <Zeu5> i have tried changing permissions and ownership . didnt work, cannot go to recovery mode from grub menu. computer hanged. please advise.
[07:13] <Starminn> Prinler: Your user may not hae access to the www group
[07:13] <Zeu5> i have tried delting the file as well. didnt work
[07:13] <Senjai> RexM2, WPA2 is normally fairly secure, stay away from WEP. The best way to test vulns is not to use a program, but to stay up to date with exploits and test them yourself
[07:13] <silverarrow> I have used previous versions of Ubuntu, but never fuzzed too much bout things like online banking, Net TV, but I am in a crisis and this is the only machine I have for weeks
[07:13] <Prinler> hmmm
[07:14] <silverarrow> I have no Windows to relay on
[07:14] <Prinler> how could i not? im the only user
[07:14] <Senjai> RexM2, W.g. hack your own network.
[07:14] <[thor]> Prinler: sudo mv
[07:14] <Starminn> [thor] Yes but I'm seeing if we can avoid sudo. :) That will work almost definitely but still. Hardly a permanent fix, no?
[07:14] <Prinler> says im not the owner so i cant change permissions lol
[07:14] <Prinler> how funny
[07:14] <Senjai> RexM2, there are many exploit databases I could point you to, but they are not suitable for this channel, if you need more info /msg me
[07:15] <Starminn> Prinler: Well you could always chown/chmod your account to have access to it
[07:15] <JeffCBR> I need help adding eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces or the commands like ifup/ifdown for however ubuntu handles my nic.
[07:15] <Senjai> Prinler, if you install a program using root, root created it not you, therefore root has access to it, use sudo chown $USER directory to take over control
[07:16] <Zeu5> hi there, i am having problems with this could not update ~/.ICEauthority
[07:16] <silverarrow> Would the sudo apt-get packages for Lucid work for Maverick?
[07:16] <Senjai> JeffCBR, you always have hard questions, lol, everytime I see you.
[07:16] <Zeu5> i have tried changing permissions and ownership . didnt work, cannot go to recovery mode from grub menu. computer hanged. please advise.
[07:16] <JeffCBR> Senjai: Sorry... ;)
[07:16] <Starminn> Zeu5: Ask your question again. ActionParsnip can answer almost anything and he just entered after your query. ;)
[07:17] <Zeu5> hi there, i am having problems with this could not update ~/.ICEauthority
[07:17] <Zeu5> i have tried changing permissions and ownership . didnt work, cannot go to recovery mode from grub menu. computer hanged. please advise.
[07:17] <Zeu5> i have tried delting the file as well. didnt work
[07:17] <Senjai> Zeu5, what was the error message you recieved
[07:17] <Ircnamesarehardt> Hello I have a question for the community. Im running 32bbit 10.10 and it only seems to find 2.7 gigs of ram. Is there something i can do or should i just upgrade to the 64 bit?
[07:18] <Zeu5> Senjai: after i logged into my ubuntu i get a could not update .ICEauthority file /home/username/.ICEauthority
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: boot to root recovery mode and chown the file back to your user
[07:18] <Starminn> !pae | ircnamesarehardt
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: do commands like: sudo gedit   and: sudo nautilus    look familiar?
[07:18] <Senjai> Zeu5, and the error returned was?
[07:18] <g0r33k> join #linux
[07:18] <g0r33k> ooops sorry :)
[07:18] <Zeu5> Hi ActionParsnip , when i tried grub to login to recovery mode computer black screen > 5 minutes
[07:18] <Ircnamesarehardt> Thanks ubotu!
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: you need that prompt. do you use commands like that?
[07:19] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: as far as i recall i did not do those commands
[07:19] <silverarrow> if I install packages like mad, would it mess up my system?
[07:19] <silverarrow> even a few wrong javas?
[07:20] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: i know that i had this error after i tried installing ppstream and veetle last night
[07:20] <JeffCBR> If I define eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, will it cause some conflict in Ubuntu, since it seems to be handling my network card some other way?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: ok, you may want to change the boot options on root recovery to remove splash and quiet and add: nomodeset    should be ok then
[07:20] <[thor]> JeffCBR: ifconfig
[07:21] <Prinler> Senjai, perfect fix ty
[07:21] <JeffCBR> [thor]: Trying to ifconfig down eth0 gives an error. One second, while I get it.
[07:21] <silverarrow> It looks like Java 6.4 is not available for Ubuntu
[07:21] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: how do i change those settings?
[07:21] <Senjai> Prinler, glad it helped
[07:21] <Zeu5> guys.. is ActionParsnip not here any more?
[07:21] <JeffCBR> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:21] <JeffCBR> down: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:22] <Starminn> Zeu5: ActionParsnip just left. He  may be back though. In the meantime Google "nomodeset" and you'll see what he was talking about
[07:22] <JeffCBR> ifconfig clearly shows eth0, though.
[07:22] <[thor]> JeffCBR: "ifconfig eth0 down" i believe
[07:22] <silverarrow> if Java is installed from the Java's homepage would it be registered as a package in Package Manager?
[07:22] <Starminn> Zeu5: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[07:23] <Starminn> silverarrow: The Ubuntu repos typically lag a little behind the main companies so if you want "The latest and greatest" download from the companies themselves.
[07:24] <ohsix> silverarrow: if it's not installed with apt/dpkg it isn't known by them either
[07:24] <Senjai> Starminn, silverarrow, correct, but the ones on the repos have been tested for compatability. so to ensure compatability, get the repo one
[07:24] <ohsix> silverarrow: is there a specific reason you need a newer version?
[07:24] <Starminn> Senjai silverarrow: Right. It may be a little old but it'll at least work.
[07:24] <Starminn> "old" is a bad term. Just... "not new"
[07:25] <Senjai> Starminn, silverarrow, if you get the "newest" one, it may have bugs and that may be the reason ubuntu hasnt hosted it on the the repos
[07:25] <silverarrow> I see
[07:25] <ohsix> unless theres a security issue or a good reason, stuff stays stable durign the release
[07:26] <h3r0> hi friend
[07:26] <[thor]> silverarrow: if you install a .deb or similar package downloaded from a software developer, the package manager will know it is installed.
[07:26] <h3r0> i want to ask aout amanda backup solution
[07:26] <silverarrow> ohsix, I have problem with logging on to my bank, they are very fuzzy with latest version, but I cant make Maveric detect java
[07:27] <silverarrow> thor, thanks
[07:27] <Starminn> silverarrow: Try using Chromium.
[07:27] <silverarrow> the browser?
[07:27] <Zeu5> Starminn: i tried the nomodeset and restarted. but in recovery mode i am still getinng a black screen
[07:27] <Zeu5> i also did a sudo update-grub
[07:27] <Guest33786> what is the meaning about "install and configure Amanda backup server software on Quartz, which is running Red Hat Enterprise Linux."
[07:27] <ohsix> silverarrow: you probably need to install the icedtea plugin if you're using the default-jre (which is openjdk by default)
[07:27] <Guest33786> what is quartz? is it kind of hardware?
[07:28] <Starminn> silverarrow: Yeah. I know Chromium ships with its own version of Flash (my Chromium beats my Firefox in Flash performance) so Java may do something similar with it
[07:28] <Guest33786> or an OS?
[07:28] <Starminn> Guest33786: From 3 seconds of Googling I get "Quartz specifically refers  to a pair of Mac OS X technologies"
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: sounds like you will need to boot to live cd and chroot to the installed OS
[07:28] <Guest33786> oh is it hardware?or software?
[07:29] <Starminn> Guest33786: https://kb.iu.edu/data/ajeb.html
[07:29] <Guest33786> thanks Starminn
[07:29] <ohsix> Starminn: but even given the slim context there was, you wouldn't do things "on Quartz"
[07:29] <Senjai> Guest33786, Can you please change your nick, it's hard to reference you lol
[07:29] <Starminn> Senjai: I agree. :) Pain in the patootie lol
[07:30] <Guest33786> how i can change my nick :(
[07:30] <hensem> aha thanks manage to change
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !nick
[07:30] <silverarrow> iced tea
[07:31] <silverarrow> hmm
[07:31] <Zeu5> okie i just rebooted my computer and i am now at the grub menu
[07:31] <Zeu5> and i just placed my 10.04 64 bit dvd installation inside the rom
[07:31] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: What is my next move?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> !chroot
[07:31] <Senjai> Zeu5, you have to boot from CD, keep the CD in the rom before booting
[07:31] <Senjai> Zeu5, make sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD before hard drive
[07:31] <Zeu5> Senjai: how do i reboot from grub menu?
[07:32] <hensem> does anyone know which solution backup is better?is it bacula or amanda?(easy to use)
[07:32] <Senjai> Zeu5, it is safe to use the power off button from grub
[07:32] <Zeu5> okie then. here goes nothing
[07:32] <Senjai> Zeu5, just hardboot it, then go into your system BIOS
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5 ctrl+alt+del will reboot
[07:32] <ohsix> hensem: do you need remote backups to be coordinated like bacula and amanda does? there is software that can do remote backups without a backup server
[07:32] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: too late. i use power off. instead f catrl alt del
[07:33] <Zeu5> it still went to grub menu instead.
[07:33] <Senjai> Zeu5, its okay to hardboot grub, it doesnt use a lot of resources
[07:33] <Senjai> Zeu5, press F12, or F2 before it gets to grub
[07:33] <hensem> oh really ohsix?what kind of backup solution is that?
[07:33] <Senjai> Zeu5, there should be a screen before it gets to grub
[07:33] <hensem> yes i want to do remotely and i hope automatically too...
[07:33] <Senjai> Zeu5, depending on your computer
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: you can damage components with hard poweroff. Ctrl+alt+del would make the OS die gracefully
[07:34] <ohsix> hensem: duplicity, deja-dup is a gui for starting jobs at regular times and when volumes are pluggged int
[07:34] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: i am back to grub. please teach me the proper way from here. installation dvd in rom
[07:34] <hensem> oh i see... i will try to google about deja-dup thanks ohsix
[07:35] <Senjai> Zeu5, did you see the screen before coming to grub? What ty havepe of computer do you
[07:35] <Zeu5> and i have hardpowered off at least 8 times in the past 20 minutes.
[07:35] <Zeu5> i want to avoid that
[07:35] <Zeu5> asus n43j
[07:35] <[thor]> Zeu5: reboot, enter BIOS config, set boot order to CDROM / Floppy / HD0
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: before grub shows. Press F11 and you can select cd to boot
[07:35] <Senjai> Zeu5, what type of computer do you have, Grub doesnt use many components so it doesn't matter, doesn't save anything, just reads
[07:35] <Prinler> Does anyone know if ubuntu has any issues with blueray players or playback?
[07:36] <Senjai> !media | Prinler
[07:36] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: just to confirm its F11 and not F12 cause SEnjai tells me F12
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> !bluray
[07:36] <Zeu5> i wan to get thsi right
[07:36] <Starminn> Zeu5: For me it is F12. It depends on the comp. You wanna look for "Boot Menu"
[07:36] <Senjai> Zeu5, IT DEPENDS on your computer, for dell it is F2, for HP may be something else
[07:36] <Senjai> Zeu5, what type of computer do you have
[07:36] <[thor]> err.. if it isn't right, it won't work.. pressing the wrong number won't blow anything up
[07:36] <Starminn> Zeu5 Senjai: *For Dell it's F12***
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Zeus5: reboot and press F11 lots, the
[07:36] <Senjai> Starminn, correction, typing to fast
[07:36] <Zeu5> Senjai: i alraedy mentioned this. i said ASUS N43J
[07:36] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay give me a second
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Then select cd
[07:37] <Zeu5> thanks Senjai
[07:37] <Zeu5> i am googling as well
[07:37] <Starminn> Zeu5: F8?
[07:37] <Senjai> Hitting F2 when starting the notebook should get you in.
[07:37] <Senjai> Zeu5, git F2
[07:37] <Prinler> Senjai, why did you do that?
[07:37] <Senjai> Zeu5, hit F2 while its starting up rapidly
[07:37] <Senjai> Prinler, sorry I thought that was the right one one sec
[07:37] <Prinler> Senjai, i didnt ask for a list of media players
[07:37] <Senjai> !bluray | Prinler
[07:38] <Senjai> Prinler, that was what I was looking for
[07:38] <Prinler> lol
[07:38] <Senjai> Prinler I'm helping several people sorry.
[07:38] <Zeu5> okay everyone
[07:38] <Zeu5> i rebooted using ctrl alt del
[07:38] <Zeu5> then i press F2 repeatedly
[07:38] <Senjai> yes
[07:38] <Zeu5> i see a aptio setup utility.
[07:38] <Senjai> yes!
[07:38] <Senjai> oka
[07:38] <silverarrow> my computer really didn't like the added packages, my upper panel are messed up. The turn off button are missing
[07:39] <Starminn> silverarrow: In terminal type "killall gnome-panel"
[07:39] <Zeu5> i see main advaned boot security save&exit
[07:39] <Starminn> silverarrow: It'll reset your panel. :)
[07:39] <Senjai> Zeu5, boot
[07:39] <Senjai> Zeu5, go to boot
[07:39] <silverarrow> thanks
[07:39] <Senjai> Zeu5, tell me what you see
[07:39] <Zeu5> i am there
[07:39] <Zeu5> boot option priorities
[07:39] <Senjai> priorities
[07:40] <Zeu5> boot option 1 PO: ST9500
[07:40] <Senjai> make sure CD is before Hard disk
[07:40] <Zeu5> boot option 2: P1: HL-DT-ST BDD...
[07:40] <silverarrow> it woked !!
[07:40] <silverarrow> instantly
[07:40] <Zeu5> hard drive BBS priorities
[07:40] <Zeu5> CD/DVD ROm Drive BBS prioroties
[07:40] <silverarrow> thanks starminn
[07:40] <Senjai> Zeu5, there should be something there that resembles CD
[07:40] <Zeu5> Delete boot option
[07:41] <Senjai> Zeu5, no, but the CD/DVD before the HARDDRIVE option
[07:41] <Senjai> put*
[07:41] <Starminn> silverarrow: Sure thing. :)
[07:41] <silverarrow> I have to get a book on ubuntu or something,
[07:41] <silverarrow> I mean, the basic commands and stuff
[07:41] <Starminn> !manual | silverarrow
[07:41] <Starminn> silverarrow: Oh, command line commands? Sorry. :) You might want this: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[07:42] <[thor]> silverarrow: most programs will add manual pages on installation
[07:42] <Senjai> Zeu5, how is that going?
[07:42] <Zeu5> okie wait i am playing ard with it
[07:42] <Zeu5> i think i jsut got it to work to boot up from cd
[07:42] <[thor]> silverarrow: try "man <programname>" if you are stumped with a particular command line application
[07:42] <Zeu5> okie think its working.
[07:42] <Senjai> Zeu5 :)
[07:43] <Zeu5> sorry for this. i am really really ubuntu noob despite almost 1 year on this
[07:43] <silverarrow> starting java is like major uphill for my computer lol
[07:43] <Senjai> Zeu5, make sure you didn't delete any options
[07:43] <_skpl> bbs?
[07:43] <Senjai> Zeu5, just rearrange the boot order, but dont delete anything
[07:43] <Zeu5> Senjai: i don think i deleted any option . just rearrange them
[07:43] <Zeu5> the options dun use any beginner friendly words like CD rom, harddisk
[07:43] <Senjai> Zeu5, even dont rearrange anything else, just put CD on top :P BIOS is fussy
[07:43] <WilceysTech> Hi all :)
[07:43] <Senjai> Zeu5 yea I know
[07:44] <Senjai> WilceysTech, Sup
[07:44] <Zeu5> i think its running.but its taking a logn time to bootup from CD
[07:44] <ohsix> what's a cd
[07:44] <Prinler> Senjai, shesh man, couldnt you just say... yes its supported with some tweeking? lol
[07:44] <Zeu5> please hang on everyone.
[07:44] <[thor]> Zeu5: they were showing the hardware ID of the drives
[07:44] <Senjai> Prinler, I didn't know the answer, I just know there are problems, so If I said that I might've given you the wrong answer
[07:44] <Zeu5> i see the default  pink background of 10.04
[07:44] <Zeu5> okie i get a try or install  window
[07:45] <Zeu5> use try yes?
[07:45] <Senjai> install
[07:45] <Zeu5> i mean i see a window showing try or install ubuntu LTS
[07:45] <Senjai> Zeu5, if you want to install ubuntu use Install
[07:45] <[thor]> Zeu5: so a wester digital 100GB might show --> 1 PO: WD100XXXATA
[07:45] <Zeu5> install? i already installed
[07:45] <Senjai> Zeu5, what are you trying to do with the CD then
[07:45] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip told me to boot up from CD
[07:45] <[thor]> Zeu5: use "try"
[07:45] <Zeu5> and he is no longer here.. ha
[07:46] <Senjai> ..
[07:46] <silverarrow> do I need to reboot for java to actibate?
[07:46] <[thor]> Zeu5: you are going to chmod the permissions for those folders
[07:46] <Zeu5> i have an issue with the .ICEauthority file
[07:46] <silverarrow> activate*
[07:46] <Fuchs> Senjai: he should check the rights and owner of the .ICEAuthority file
[07:46] <Fuchs> Senjai: so basically all he has to do is boot any live system and do an ls -l, then chown and maybe chmod
[07:46] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip last advice was to boot up from CD
[07:46] <Starminn> (02:18:04 AM) Zeu5: Senjai: after i logged into my ubuntu i get a could not update .ICEauthority file /home/username/.ICEauthority
[07:46] <Starminn> (02:18:08 AM) ActionParsnip: Zeu5: boot to root recovery mode and chown the file back to your user
[07:47] <Senjai> zeu5, okay, click try
[07:47] <Starminn> So basically what Fuchs said
[07:47] <Zeu5> recover mode did not work for me despite nomodeset
[07:47] <Senjai> zeu5, then you can edit your ICEauthority from the CD berson
[07:47] <Senjai> version*
[07:47] <Zeu5> okie so now i go into terminal from here yes?
[07:47] <Zeu5> i am inside the terminal now as ubuntu@ubuntu
[07:47] <Zeu5> so now i use sudo chmod ....
[07:48] <Zeu5> am i fcorrect?
[07:48] <Starminn> Zeu5: "sudo chmod $USER /path/to/directory"
[07:48] <Senjai> Starminn, no
[07:48] <Starminn> Zeu5:chown*
[07:48] <Senjai> Starminn, Zeu5, dont use $USER
[07:48] <hensem> what is tape backup?i think its kind of hardware.. not software.. is it right?
[07:49] <Zeu5> okie my machine name is ks-laptop and my username is ks
[07:49] <Senjai> Starminn, Zeu5, $USER is ubuntu be ecause your using the CD, type type: sudo chown (username on your other operating system) /path/to/ice
[07:49] <_Alex__> hensem: Tape backup copies data to tape
[07:49] <hensem> oh i see
[07:49] <Zeu5> Senjai: so its
[07:49] <Guest97558> Hi
[07:49] <hensem> means i can save it to dvd rw too right Alex?
[07:49] <Starminn> I used "$USER" in the sense of a variable, Senjai. I didn't know it even existed as-is.
[07:50] <Zeu5> sudo chown ks:ks /home/ks/.ICEauthority
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> Guest97558, You should NOT log in to IRC as "root" at all - let alone be online as "root" - it's bad manners, and highly insecure.
[07:50] <Senjai> Starminn, yes, $USER replaces $USER with the current logged in user when you run it, just like $PATH is replaced by executable directories
[07:50] <Starminn> Senjai. Hmph. Didn't know that. I guess that's what I get from working with PHP. :/ I'll keep that in mind, though. Thanks for the heads-up
[07:50] <Zeu5> Senjai: sorry cann you explain it again? with even more beginner friendly words
[07:50] <Senjai> Starminn, try it, go into terminal and type $USER and hit enter
[07:51] <[thor]> YankDownUnder: see the ~ in front of that root userame? all of that can be set manually
[07:51] <Senjai> Zeu5, type pwd in the terminal and tell me what you get
[07:51] <hensem> thank you  _Alex__
[07:51] <Zeu5> i get /home/ubuntu
[07:51] <Zeu5> i am "trying" Ubuntu from the CD
[07:52] <Senjai> sorry Starminn, type echo $USER in command line
[07:52] <Senjai> okay
[07:52] <_Alex__> hensem: What have i ever done to you for needing to thank?
[07:52] <Starminn> Senjai: I figured it out. ;)
[07:52] <Senjai> uhh, in ubuntu under Places, do you see your other operating system?
[07:52] <Zeu5> Senjai: i think so
[07:52] <Zeu5> shoudl i mount it?
[07:52] <Senjai> click it
[07:52] <Senjai> Zeu5 yes
[07:53] <Zeu5> yes found it
[07:53] <Senjai> Zeu5, because right now your only under the CD's files, and the problem is under the hard drive
[07:53] <Zeu5> okie nautlius is opening it
[07:53] <Zeu5> so wat shd i do?
[07:53] <Senjai> When its mounted
[07:53] <[thor]> same command but with mounted path
[07:53] <Zeu5> navigate it via terminal?
[07:53] <Senjai> where is it mounted
[07:53] <Senjai> yes
[07:53] <Senjai> should be /media/something
[07:54] <Senjai> type ls /media
[07:54] <Senjai> in terminal
[07:54] <kibaya> Fatal: Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries Aborted
[07:54] <Zeu5> okie i am a tthe right folder
[07:54] <kibaya> this keeps showing up when i try running skype
[07:54] <Zeu5> but i see that the owner is not ks ks
[07:54] <Zeu5> its 1000 1000
[07:54] <Senjai> good
[07:54] <Senjai> now
[07:54] <Senjai> listen carefully
[07:54] <Zeu5> listening
[07:54] <Senjai> type pwd, and tell me what it is
[07:55] <_Alex__> Stuff doesn't mount in '/mnt/something'?
[07:55] <hensem> _Alex__ it was a big help :)
[07:55] <Zeu5> i get /media/ed4dsdsdjsdjsjl/jdlkasjdklsajdkl/home/ks
[07:55] <Senjai> _Alex__, it mounts by default in /media/something
[07:55] <_Alex__> Aha
[07:55] <akbar> Hi
[07:55] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay, type: sudo chown ks /media/ed4dsdsdjsdjsjl/jdlkasjdklsajdkl/home/ks
[07:55] <Zeu5> Senjai, i kinda randomly typed for the hdd id FYI
[07:55] <Starminn> _Alex__: For me usually in "/media"
[07:56] <JXYZ> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu Netbook Remix USB drive isn't getting recognized?
[07:56] <Senjai> it should then list the owner of that directory as ks
[07:56] <kibaya> alex_ yes it does in mount in /media/somthng
[07:56] <akbar> how to creat vpn connection in back track 4
[07:56] <akbar> pleas help me
[07:56] <Senjai> !ot | akbar
[07:56] <Starminn> JXYZ: Have you used it before or is this the first attempt?
[07:56] <Senjai> akbar see #backtrack-linux
[07:56] <_Alex__> Hi
[07:56] <Senjai> We DO NOT support backtrack
[07:56] <Zeu5> Senjai: you mean sudo chown ks: /media/ed4dsdsdjsdjsjl/jdlkasjdklsajdkl/home/ks dont you?
[07:56] <Starminn> !backtrack | akbar
[07:56] <Zeu5> with a colon and a space in between
[07:57] <kibaya> Fatal: Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries Aborted help me on this error
[07:57] <Senjai> Zeu5, sudo chown ks /media/ed4dsdsdjsdjsjl/jdlkasjdklsajdkl/home/ks
[07:57] <Senjai> no colon
[07:57] <Zeu5> space?
[07:57] <Senjai> Zeu5, no colon after ks
[07:57] <Zeu5> but there is a space between ks and the /media yes?
[07:57] <Senjai> Zeu5, yes
[07:58] <[thor]> derp
[07:58] <Senjai> Zeu5, make sure ks is your USERNAME on the hard drive
[07:58] <JXYZ> Starminn: Yes
[07:58] <Starminn> Zeu5: Just copy and paste it into the Terminal
[07:58] <Starminn> JXYZ: Same computer?
[07:58] <zamba> is it possible to set up 802.1q vlans through networkmanager?
[07:58] <Senjai> Zeu5, if it isn't replace it with your username
[07:58] <Zeu5> invalid user
[07:58] <JXYZ> yes
[07:58] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay hold on
[07:58] <Zeu5> Senjai: i get invalid user for ks
[07:58] <Senjai> Zeu5, navigate it to it in the GUI
[07:58] <Starminn> JXYZ: Trying to boot from it or is it just not mounting?
[07:58] <Senjai> Zeu5, we're going to do it the easy way
[07:58] <Zeu5> Senjai: okay
[07:58] <akbar> tnx
[07:59] <Senjai> Zeu5, get to your home folder through the GUI, when your there, right click  the ks folder and click properties
[07:59] <JXYZ> im trying to boot from it
[07:59]  * Starminn Chuckles at the fact that "Let's do this the easiest way" is always the 'Last Resort Plan' on the#ubuntu support channel
[07:59] <k4g6> hey whats the command to run colortest
[07:59] <Zeu5> done
[07:59] <JXYZ> and in the boot menu its not showing up
[07:59] <Starminn> JXYZ: Is your BIOS configured to boot from USB?
[07:59] <Zeu5> Senjai: done
[07:59] <Starminn> JXYZ: Ah
[07:59] <Starminn> JXYZ: Can you pick it up after the system is loaded? Will it show in Nautilus I mean?
[07:59] <Senjai> Zeu5, go to Permissions
[08:00] <k4g6> !info colortest
[08:00] <Senjai> Zeu5, tell me what you see
[08:00] <JXYZ> im trying to install it on my netbook, which doesnt have a working OS
[08:00] <Zeu5> Owner 1016 - user #1016
[08:00] <JXYZ> which is why i need to install it
[08:00] <Zeu5> Group 1016
[08:00] <Senjai> Zeu5, can you change the fields?
[08:00] <Zeu5> nope
[08:00] <Zeu5> you are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions
[08:01] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay one moment,
[08:01] <accel> does ubuntu support arm?
[08:01] <_Alex__> JXYZ: Ubuntu on a netbook? You need to go to Pendrivelinux.com and get the software
[08:01] <accel> or does it only run on x86/x86_64/legs ?
[08:01] <hensem> after confusing a lot with quartz, tape, i decided to check amanda on centos in google.. that would be better :)
[08:01] <JXYZ> ok - i'll try that but as i mentioned, i did it before and it worked fine
[08:01] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay back to terminal,
[08:01] <_Alex__> JXYZ:even if Debian =works faster on old machines
[08:01] <JXYZ> Ubuntu Netbook Remix is for netbooks
[08:01] <Zeu5> Senjai: and?
[08:02] <_Alex__> Yea
[08:02] <Senjai> Zeu5, sudo chmod 777 /media/ed4dsdsdjsdjsjl/jdlkasjdklsajdkl/home/ks
[08:02] <Senjai> Zeu5, tell me if that works without errors
[08:02] <Zeu5> Senjai: i am loath to do that
[08:02] <_Alex__> Bit i dont Recommand UNR, it is rather slow
[08:02] <Senjai> Zeu5, what? can you say that again
[08:03] <Zeu5> Senjai: I am reluctant to do that because i am not sure how to chagne the permissions back
[08:03] <Juul> hi, i have a usb headset that's giving me trouble. it shows up in ubuntu 10.10 in sound preferences under the "hardware" tab, but with no icon
[08:03] <Juul> it doesn't show up under output or input
[08:03] <Senjai> Zeu5, we will go through that, but this is essential, I'm trying to help you
[08:03] <[thor]> Zeu5: sudo nautilus
[08:03] <Starminn> !chomod | Zeu5
[08:03] <Starminn> !chmod | Zeu5
[08:03] <Juul> alsamixer shows the output and input from the sound card as it should
[08:03] <[thor]> and change the owner of the folder
[08:03] <JXYZ> I'm just going to throw this stupid netbook out the window
[08:03] <JXYZ> useless
[08:03] <Senjai> Starminn, he doesnt need to be confused at the moment
[08:03] <Starminn> Zeu5: But for now just trust in Senjai. :)
[08:03] <[thor]> the dangerous, and easy way.
[08:03] <_Alex__> JXYZ: WHY?!?!?!
[08:04] <Starminn> Senjai: I agree. Just telling him not to worry
[08:04] <Zeu5> Senjai: okie
[08:04] <Senjai> Zeu5, run the command, this will allow you to change the settings graphically
[08:04] <Zeu5> done but i am still not the owner in the GUI
[08:04] <JXYZ> ive been trying to install an OS on it for weeks
[08:04] <[thor]> JXYZ: usb CD drive?
[08:04] <Zeu5> let me refresh the GUI
[08:04] <Senjai> Zeu5, refresh the GUI
[08:04] <_Alex__> JXIZ:Install Debian if you don't like Ubuntu"!!!!!!!!!! IT's LOTS FASTER!, Pleas! Don't destroy it!
[08:04] <JXYZ> thor i dont understand the question
[08:04] <k4g6> does anyone know how to help me. its a real stupid question i just cant find the command to run colortest
[08:04] <Zeu5> you are not the owner, so ...
[08:05] <[thor]> JXYZ: i guess i was missing some words there; do you have access to a working usb connectable cd-rom drive?
[08:05] <_Alex__> JXYZ: There are external USB drives.
[08:05] <Senjai> Zwu5, okay, but does it say
[08:05] <Zeu5> Senjai: done still not able to change any permission
[08:05] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay but under
[08:05] <Starminn> k4g6: Have yuo tried "man colortest" ?
[08:05] <jadespider> thor @ linuxboxen
[08:05] <Gabryfan82> HI
[08:05] <JXYZ> ah - no - i dont
[08:05] <Senjai> Zeu5, hold on, under OTHERS does it say create and delete files
[08:05] <k4g6> theres no man
[08:06] <k4g6> Starminn: no manual**
[08:06] <Zeu5> Senjai: i see it. i cannot click it
[08:06] <_Alex__> JXYZ: Try UNetBootin, Pendrive dodn't work for me
[08:06] <Gabryfan82> I don't know how install vnc4server on linux that have only terminal (without monitor) only ssh
[08:06] <Senjai> Zeu5, but is that what it says?
[08:07] <Zeu5> Senjai: Others Flder access greyed out dropdown first item is Creat and delete files
[08:07] <Senjai> Zeu5 EXCELLENT :)
[08:07] <Senjai> okay
[08:07] <Senjai> Zeu5, we're making progress, we're going to try something else
[08:07] <Starminn> k4g6: Not sure then
[08:07] <Senjai> Zeu5, sudo chown ubuntu /path/to/home/folder
[08:07] <Zeu5> Senjai: just go ahead.
[08:07] <k4g6> Starminn: thanks. ill google it some more
[08:07] <Senjai> Zeu5, I forget the path
[08:07] <JXYZ> window solution
[08:07] <Zeu5> okie
[08:08] <Senjai> Zeu5, does it run with no errors
[08:08] <_Alex__> JXIZ: does it work now?
[08:08] <Zeu5> Senjai: you want /media/yadayada/home or /media/yadaydad/home/ks
[08:08] <Starminn> _Alex__ He left
[08:08] <_Alex__> Aha
[08:08] <Senjai> Zeu5, the second
[08:08] <aroman> hello, i want to use rsync to make a copy of my entire linux partition (that is, my root folder), and put it on an external hard drive to use as a backup. My question is, if I run rsync as root, telling to copy / to /media/MyDrive, while running the OS installed at / (that is, tell rsync to backup my computer while I'm still using it/it's running inside of it), will I run into problems? Is there anything that could cause rsync to fail when
[08:08] <_Alex__> why don't you use 'dd'?
[08:09] <Zeu5> okie i can now create or delete files from GUI Senjai
[08:09] <aroman> _Alex__: what's wrong with rsync?
[08:09] <_Alex__> IDK
[08:09] <Senjai> Zeu5, Awesome, but there is a problem, so don't get too cocky, I still need to instruct you
[08:09] <Senjai> In the GUI
[08:09] <Senjai> Zeu5, in the guy
[08:09] <aroman> dd isn't good for backups, because rsync can checksum the files to know which to backup
[08:09] <[thor]> aroman: as long as it is copying and not moving, i can't see how it would have any effect at all
[08:09] <Zeu5> Senjai: sorry about sounding anxious. i got some work needed to hand in at 5pm.. which is less htan 50 minutes frm now.. so
[08:10] <_Alex__> I allwais backup with dd
[08:10] <kuru> I got this new box now. with a Gigabyte GA-PH67A-UD3 motherboard that has a built-in Realtek chip
[08:10] <Senjai> Zeu5, In the gui, under OTHERS, set file access to read and write
[08:10] <aroman> [thor]: that's what I was thinking
[08:10] <Zeu5> Senjai: okie in the GUI, yes?
[08:10] <jadespider> perhaps not
[08:10] <kuru> ALC892 to be exact.. Ubuntu doesn't seem to see it (I'm running Karmic)
[08:10] <Zeu5> Senjai: ithere is no such option
[08:10] <kuru> looking online there are more questions than answers.. can anyone point me to a more definitive resource for information?
[08:11] <kuru> I'm sort of at a loss here
[08:11] <_Alex__> kuru: Why the hell did you not dist-upgrade yet?
[08:11] <Zeu5> Senjai: None, List files only, Access files, Create and delete files
[08:11] <Starminn> Zeu5: It's in right-click->Properties->PErmissions (is that what you meant Senjai?)
[08:11] <Senjai> Zeu5, Create and delete Files, then in the second drop down, others: File Access: Read and Write
[08:11] <iflema> k4g6: try  colortest-8    colortest-16  etc...  or     man colortest-8
[08:11] <kuru> _Alex_, because I _just_ got the box and had a karmic cd.. ;)
[08:11] <Senjai> Zeu5, starminn, hes already there
[08:11] <kuru> _Alex_, and I have an important Qt app that breaks on Lucid
[08:11] <k4g6> iflema: thankkyou!
[08:11] <whitefire> help me how to install driver NVIDIA GeForce 310M ( laptop acer aspire 5745g) on ubuntu 10.10
[08:11] <RobbieThe1st> kuru: Update to Maverick, then we might be able to help you? The new versions have more support anyway
[08:12] <Zeu5> oh sorry i forgot to refresh
[08:12] <Zeu5> okie Senjai done
[08:12] <Senjai> Zeu5, now, the owner before you was #100 ? what was it
[08:12] <RobbieThe1st> whitefire: Try going to "additional drivers" under "system" in the menu, activate the driver
[08:12] <Zeu5>  Senjai1016
[08:12] <Zeu5> Senjai: 1016
[08:12] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay, does it have a folder in /home?
[08:12] <kuru> Maverick.. that's not even released proper yet
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Whitefire: install the nvidia-current package in software centre and reboot
[08:13] <_Alex__> kuru: marevic is the stable now
[08:13] <Zeu5> Senjai: no
[08:13] <kuru> _Alex_, hrmm.. so I should skip the 10.04 LTS upgrade?
[08:13] <dagon666> anybody knows how to enable multicast forwarding in ubuntu ? trying to change /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/mc_forwarding from 0 to 1 always ends up with permission denied
[08:13] <kuru> (about to hit 'Start Upgrade' button)
[08:13] <Zeu5> Senjai:  i would have thought that the owner of ks folder is ks itself
[08:13] <Senjai> Zeu5, okay, time to SHUT DOWN (not restart) your ubuntu, and take out the CD
[08:13] <Senjai> Zeu5, time to boot into Ubuntu.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Kuru: thi
[08:13] <Senjai> Zeu5, when you get to the login screen tell me
[08:14] <Prinler> !hdmi
[08:14] <RobbieThe1st> kuru: I'd just download a 10.10 CD and install from that - Probably be faster.
[08:14] <Zeu5> Senjai: you positive? cause right now the owner of /home/ks is ubuntu
[08:14] <Senjai> Zeu5, it doesn't matter, because everyone can access it
[08:14] <Senjai> Zeu5, including other users, like ks
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Kuru: think about what version number maverick is, and then think how Canonical number releases
[08:14] <Senjai> Zeu5, when you get in as ks, or 1016, you can change it back
[08:15] <neil_____> @Senjai a
[08:15] <Senjai> Zeu5, as long as "others" can read and write files, and create and delet files
[08:15] <Zeu5> okay jus gone past grub
[08:15] <Starminn> Kuru: Maverick (10.10) was released in '10, October (10th month)
[08:15] <Senjai> neil_____, ?
[08:16] <kuru> you know, going back to my original question, no one seems to be able to simply point me to a url, instead I'm being attacked for not memorizing Ubuntu's version system
[08:16] <kuru> thanks a lot
[08:16] <Senjai> Zeu5, tell me when you get to login
[08:16] <silverarrow> hi again
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Kuru: karmic is supported til April. Could just use it til it dies as Natty (11
[08:16] <_Alex__> kuru: I think that the audio chip is new, and it is not in the Karmic koala's kernel
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> (11.04) will be out
[08:16] <RobbieThe1st> kuru: Um, go to ubuntu.com. download from there>
[08:17] <kuru> ActionParsnip, yeah I'm upgrading to 10.04 Lucid
[08:17] <kuru> I need LTS
[08:17] <Yerushalmi> I'm on Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and so my desktop isn't normal gnome but rather this Unity-style thing. Last week I ran an update, and discovered upon turning on the computer that I only have the desktop background picture, and it keeps blinking grey. The upper bar with the time and programs appears normal, and keyboard commands help me open things, but I don't have a desktop. Help!
[08:17] <kuru> _Alex__, I see. Alright, fair 'nuff. Let's see if the newer kernel supports it
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Kuru: then a clean 10.04.2 will give a smoother ride
[08:18] <Prinler> Anyone know how to get the sound to go over my hdmi?
[08:18] <ohsix> Yerushalmi: it sounds like unity stopped liking your video card, you should try the unity2d session, or the classic desktop session; pick it on the login screen
[08:19] <_Alex__> Yerushalmi: As superuser 'aptitude install ubuntu-desktop'
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> _Alex__: why not just prefix with 'sudo' then you don't need to add the superuser bit..
[08:21] <Yerushalmi> ohsix:  The unity2d session actually works, but goes extremely slowly and for some reason doesn't load up a window manager automatically, I have to manually run metacity. I don't have other options than those two and xterm, though.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> _Alex__: also aptitude is no longer in a default i
[08:22] <Yerushalmi> ohsix: Is there any way to go back to a previous version or try to reinstall the package or something?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Install
[08:22] <ohsix> Yerushalmi: there is but it's a pain in the butt, probably more worthwhile to report the bug thats keeping it from working and have it fixed
[08:23] <Yerushalmi> ohsix: How would I do that?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: what videochip do you use?
[08:23] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: are you there
[08:23] <Zeu5> ?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: aye
[08:24] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: Senjai: is helping me which i appreciate greatly. however, i think i just got into more trouble now.
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: what's the situation?
[08:24] <[thor]> Zeu5: did you log back in?
[08:24] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: now i get black screen in both recovery mode and normal mode
[08:25] <Senjai> Zeu5, ActionParsnip, [thor] /join #zeu5
[08:25] <[thor]> only mildly interested :D i'll stay here
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: did you try the nomodeset boot option?
[08:26] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: i changed /etc/default/grub file by adding nomodeset as described here
[08:26] <Zeu5> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: i'll be in bed in 5 mins. Just on a bus home
[08:27] <silverarrow> why isn't Opera in package manager?
[08:27] <Zeu5> no no
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: ok. Did you run: sudo update-grub   after you added it?
[08:27] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip: help me before that
[08:28] <Zeu5> yes i did run sudo update-grub
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Zeu5: tried an older kernel (if you have any)
[08:30] <Zeu5> ActionParsniprecovery mode of older kernel or normal mode
[08:30] <silverarrow> who has programmed Ubottu?
[08:30] <Zeu5> ActionParsnip : recovery mode of older kernel or normal mode
[08:30] <Zeu5> ?
[08:30] <osmosis_paul> Morning, somebody here has experiment executing cron jobs of subversion? i read there are a problem with the encoding of subversion because by default dont have configure UTF-8, but i try to fix it and i can not, somebody pass for the same situation than i????
[08:30] <silverarrow> lots of info there
[08:30] <Prinler> Anyone help me get audio from my box threw my hdmi and tv speakers?
[08:31] <Djoef> Hi, Anyone here knows if you can ask for a backup of you Ubuntu One account ? (eg can I have the status of last month)
[08:31] <Djoef> And a second question, is the storage on your ubuntu one account safe ? in the sense that only the user can read (/write) what is in there ?
[08:32] <aroman> Djoef: #ubuntuone
[08:32] <Djoef> oops sorry
[08:33] <CoNFuS3D> hi, I just bought a sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio sound card, and now I have no sound...
[08:34] <CoNFuS3D> and yes, I  have googled to no avail
[08:34] <CoNFuS3D> can't even find linux drivers for it
[08:34] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: does it show up in lspci?
[08:35] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[08:35] <CoNFuS3D> cd .
[08:35] <CoNFuS3D> oops
[08:35] <CoNFuS3D> wrong window
[08:36] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: I realise it's old, but did you check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239981 ?
[08:37] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: and make sure none of the lines are muted in alsamixer
[08:37] <CoNFuS3D> hmm, so it's not gonna work at all?
[08:38] <bullgard> '~$ nslookup 91.198.174.2; Server: 192.168.178.1; Address: 192.168.178.1#53. Non-authoritative answer: 2.174.198.91.in-addr.arpa	name = rr.esams.wikimedia.org.' What does mean here '#53'? 192.168.178.1 is the IP address of my ADSL router.
[08:38] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: look at the dates on those posts, also check the end of the thread
[08:38] <llutz_> bullgard: port 53, dns
[08:38] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: there is a link to an openaudio download on page 2
[08:39] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: on page 1 sorry; near the middle
[08:39] <bullgard> llutz_: What do you mean by "port" here in relation to DNS. Can you elaborate?
[08:40] <silverarrow> do any of you have an online bank using java as secure login ?
[08:40] <llutz_> bullgard: dns-request are done via port 53udp by default
[08:40] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: or try this:  http://www.fusetext.com/2009/05/ubuntu-linux-creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-driver-installation-how-to/
[08:41] <gaelfx> again, a little old, but there's a chance it could work
[08:41] <CoNFuS3D> I tried that second link, but I can't find the drivers on the creative site...
[08:41] <silverarrow> are you guys on Ubuntu computers now?
[08:41] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: did you check alsamixer?
[08:41] <CoNFuS3D> yes..
[08:41] <joshua__> can someone help me with my bt4 shit, im tired of not getting anywhere, Ive downloaded but cant seem to install.
[08:41] <CoNFuS3D> it is all normal
[08:41] <llutz_> bullgard: like ssh uses port 22 or smtp port 25 by default
[08:41] <silverarrow> could you try this link for me ? https://www.spv.no/wps/portal/3625/login
[08:41] <silverarrow> it is in norwegian unfortunately
[08:41] <silverarrow> but words are much the same for loggin
[08:41] <llutz_> !backtrack | joshua__
[08:42] <silverarrow> do you have a sign in bar at all?
[08:42] <Yerushalmi> *sigh* This always happens.
[08:42] <silverarrow> always?
[08:42] <root> hi
[08:43] <joshua__> I want to be good at what I love, but I have to learn about what I love first
[08:43] <Yerushalmi> ohsix: Sorry about that
[08:43] <Guest63698> i hack yo shit
[08:43] <silverarrow> what did ubottu just do?
[08:44] <silverarrow> I might go for linux mint
[08:44] <joshua__> well if you are a cracker then yea... thats what I expect, back someone who loves the games could show me a pointer or two
[08:44] <Yerushalmi> ohsix: I tried to open terminal to answer ActionParsnip's question about my video card, but hit FN+F2 instead of Alt+F2
[08:44] <boota2> I want to get clear environment for a user in ubuntu. by this i mean i want to get empty output of "set".
[08:44] <boota2> How do i do it?
[08:44] <Yerushalmi> ohsix: Disabled my wireless. And my computer has (and always had) a bug that prevents me from reenabling my wireless without a reboot
[08:45] <overclucker> root: you using an irc client as root?
[08:45] <llutz_> bullgard: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_(Protokoll)  for further info
[08:45] <xrfang> how can I generate a correct fonts.dir file? I ran mkfontdir under jre/lib/fonts after copying some font into it, then the fonts.dir is only 2 bytes long :(
[08:45] <Yerushalmi> ohsix: And upon rebooting, well, my computer's been acting up lately and about 80% of the time I turn it on brings me to a text-only prompt.
[08:46] <joshua__> Well at least I know this is here now...much love to all
[08:46] <Karen245> Hello, need help :) how can I remove/delete symbolic link ?
[08:47] <llutz_> Karen245: rm link
[08:48] <gary_> lerhaupt
[08:48] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Blaster_X-Fi#Linux_support check the linux support section, driver should be available in ALSA already. Did you check the cables were plugged in properly and all that? What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:49] <Yerushalmi> So, general question for the channel, then: I've been running my computer off an SDHC card, allowing me to use my internal hard drive as swap. The reason I do this is because I haven't figured out how to use an SDHC card as swap because the computer won't agree to hibernate. Is there any way to e
[08:49] <bagustrix> hello..
[08:49] <Yerushalmi> gah.
[08:49] <CoNFuS3D> I am using 10.1
[08:50] <Yerushalmi> Is there any way to get the computer to hibernate to an SDHC card? Barring that, well, I've been having a serious number of corruption issues, so I want to know: is an SDHC card not stable/rewritable enough to serve as a hard drive, or is mine just old and if I buy a new one my computer should work fine with this configuration for an extended period of time?
[08:51] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: have you added your sdhc-device to /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume  and rebuilt the intiramfs then?
[08:51] <gaelfx> apologies
[08:52] <Yerushalmi> llutz_: The bug I get when trying to hibernate to SDHC isn't that I can't resume. It's that the computer does the full writing-to-hibernate, decides to shut down, but resumes immediately without even powering off.
[08:52] <Prinler> Ok help me out here, i was told to close x for a driver update... ctrl alt f1... i get no prompt
[08:52] <Prinler> now what
[08:52] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: in my experience, SD cards aren't that reliable if they are subjected to heavy read/write cycles
[08:53] <Narly_Dude> Prinler: f2 f3 f4?
[08:53] <wooter> Yerushalmi, set your swap partition to the card
[08:54] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: some helpfull messages in /var/log/pm-powersave.log?
[08:54] <Prinler> it closed x but still no prompy
[08:54] <Prinler> i see text and stuff
[08:54] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: How heavy is heavy? After all, I basically just use this computer for word processing and internet.
[08:54] <CoNFuS3D> on another note gaelfx, when I try to open the sound application, it says "waiting for sound system to respond"
[08:54] <Yerushalmi> llutz_: Sec, bringing up the pertinent log
[08:55] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: check it for errors
[08:55] <Narly_Dude> Prinler: And pressing enter doens't provide a prompt? (hidden maybe by output?)
[08:55] <Secret128> hello
[08:55] <Yerushalmi> llutz_: There aren't.
[08:55] <Secret128> everytime when dad trys to install ubuntu from windows he get primisson denied
[08:55] <Yerushalmi> llutz_: http://pastebin.com/8y4BLYSn
[08:56] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: can't check, i don't have www yet
[08:56] <Prinler> enter did it lol
[08:56] <Narly_Dude> Prinler: You're welcome ;-)
[08:56] <Prinler> it says im still running x server tho
[08:56] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: well, if you're going to treat it like RAM, my inclination is to say that's too heavy
[08:56] <iflema> Prinler: alt + F2    sudo service gdm stop   when on the desktop
[08:57] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: there's a reason we aren't using SD card technology in place of RAM yet, not the least of which being the issue with heavy writing deteriorating the memory rather uickly
[08:57] <iflema> Prinler: or in a terminal window
[08:57] <Yerushalmi> llutz_: Ah. Well, it's an old log, but here's what it would do. It would hibernate to the card, everything would be marked "success", but it would go straight from "performing hibernate" to "awake"
[08:57] <gaelfx> *quickly
[08:57] <Prinler> ok
[08:57] <Prinler> well im at a prompt lemme give a whirl
[08:58] <iflema> Prinler: alt + F7 first
[08:58] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: you might try reinstalling alsa, or even installing alsa backports
[08:58] <Prinler> i did it via ssh remotly
[08:58] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: I wasn't using it as RAM. I had tried to use it as swap, but gave up and now am using my internal hard drive as swap and the SDHC card as my boot drive. Unless I'm misunderstanding you?
[08:58] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: I assume you installed Ubuntu BEFORE you installed this sound card, right?
[08:58] <Prinler> killed my ssh :(
[08:58] <Prinler> brb have to run into other room
[08:58] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: swap is basically virtual RAM
[08:58] <Yerushalmi> Is it okay if I paste in here three lines from the log?
[08:59] <gaelfx> !swap
[08:59] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Then I won't use it as swap :) But what about as my hard drive, the way I'm doing now?
[08:59] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: probably best to pb
[08:59] <Yerushalmi> pb?
[08:59] <[thor]> Yerushalmi: pasting to ubuntu.pastebin.com is preferred.
[08:59] <Yerushalmi> [thor]: Nod, I already did that, but llutz said s/he doesn't have www right now.
[09:00] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: I think that's actually a pretty common thing to do, so you should be safe on that front
[09:00] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[09:00] <CoNFuS3D> I only just bought this sound card
[09:00] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Hunh. here's a theorty.
[09:00] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: as for suspending, I'm really not well versed on that :S sorry!
[09:00] <CoNFuS3D> today
[09:00] <Yerushalmi> *theory
[09:00] <Prinler> Ok, Alt - F7 took my terminal to a black screen with a blinking dot...
[09:00] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: then I would definitely try reinstalling alsa
[09:00] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: do you know how to do that?
[09:00] <CoNFuS3D> ok, I will try that
[09:01] <CoNFuS3D> I will google
[09:01] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Is it possible the reason my SDHC card got all corruptible is because I spent a million times failing to get my computer to hibernate to it?
[09:01] <Prinler> iflema, am i waiting for something?
[09:01] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: it's definitely possible, but I'm not sure if there's any way you could possibly know if that's what did it
[09:01] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: After all, each time I did so, it actually succeeded in doing the write - and in doing the read from hibernate - just without shutting off the computer in between. I spent two months doing that before I realized it was the writing to the card that did it.
[09:02] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: what class/size is it?
[09:02] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: sd-cards are not made for massive writing, they have a limited write-cycle-count
[09:02] <iflema> Prinler: i seen no mention of ssh, alt + F7 would have returned the system to gui after you did a alt + F1
[09:02] <veleno> hello. i'd like to reinstall and reconfigure an old ubuntu system. i'm logged into it as root via ssh. how can I trigger the reconfiguraiton of *everything* ?
[09:02] <CoNFuS3D> ok, so no, I don't know how to do that :P
[09:03] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: but that shouldn't be related to your hibernation issue
[09:03] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: shouldn't be too hard, open up synaptic and search for alsa
[09:03] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: 16GB
[09:03] <shafiqissani> veleno: sudo apt-get update -d      ... i think this is what u want
[09:03] <iflema> Prinler: and    sudo service gdm stop    is howto stop gnome
[09:03] <Prinler> iflema,  ok but i followed the service stop comment to... so it stopped gdm... and alt f7 only gave black screen... hit it again... back to prompt... now when i sudo sh nvidiaBLABH BLAH.run its working now
[09:03] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: find the package Alsa, click it and select "Mark for reinstallation"
[09:04] <CoNFuS3D> it's the alsa-base one?
[09:04] <iflema> Prinler: sudo service gdm start
[09:04] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: that sounds about right
[09:04] <Prinler> brb following nvidia install
[09:04] <CoNFuS3D> ok, so I have marked for reinstallation.... is that it?
[09:04] <snowrichard> i'm taking a backup of my server with tar. I booted from an external 2TB drive, so all the files on the server will be closed.l
[09:05] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: your other option would be to search for 'alsa backports' and install that, but hopefully  it isn't necessary
[09:05] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: click apply
[09:05] <veleno> shafiqissani:  not sure. i really want to restart from scratch (one of the reasons is that the current locale is set to french instead of US)
[09:05] <snowrichard> the server drive is only 1TB so there should be plenty of space for the backup
[09:05] <CoNFuS3D> and theoritically, it should now work?
[09:06] <CoNFuS3D> coz it doesn't :(
[09:06] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx, llutz_: I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here. I had originally intended to use my SDHC card as swap and my internal, 4GB hard drive as my main drive. After spending two months failing to get hibernate to work, during which I must have performed hibernate a thousand times, I said to heck with it and switched them around. I'm now using the SDHC card as my hard drive and my...
[09:06] <Yerushalmi> ...internal drive as swap. But I've been having serious corruption issues on this computer, and I'm wondering if my hibernate experiments brought the read/write cycles of my SDHC card to their knees and caused my current problems.
[09:06] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: is there a built-in sound card on your motherboard?
[09:06] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[09:07] <iflema> Prinler: is it really necessary touse the latest driver, its best to use whats in the repo unless you have no other option. i mean dont just doit because its a newer version...
[09:07] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: hard to tell but it is possible
[09:07] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: question: do you really need swap?
[09:07] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Yes, hibernate is very important to me.
[09:08] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: does alsamixer list the drive in the list for Select Sound Card (F6) ?
[09:08] <llutz_> gaelfx: for hibernation you need a swap-partition (or to use tuxonice)
[09:08] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: I'm assuming your internal hard drive is an SSD, and those also have a limited life for writing, though it should be better than the SD card
[09:08] <[thor]> s/drive/card
[09:08] <Yerushalmi> My question therefore is this: Is my current configuration, in which I boot from and write to my SDHC card as my hard drive and my entire internal hard drive is used as swap, a stable one? If I buy a new SDHC card and continue using my computer in this fashion, will it work okay? Or will I just be wasting my money?
[09:08] <CoNFuS3D> hmm, not sure, it was two listed.. so I think so
[09:09] <Senjai> !grub | Senjai
[09:09] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: another thing you might check is to make sure that pulse is using the sound blaster as the output, you should select preferences when you click the speaker on the panel
[09:09] <CoNFuS3D> I can't get to the sound menu, it keeps saying waiting for sound system to respond...
[09:09] <CoNFuS3D> is that what you mean?
[09:09] <Guest64516> my x11vnc defaults to display :1, should be display :0, i cant think of anything i have changed except updates. I am on ubnutu 10.04. any ideas?
[09:09] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: Well, nothing in the world *doesn't* have limited life for writing. What's the ideal thing to hibernate to?
[09:09] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: also, could you pastebin the output of 'aplay -l' ?
[09:10] <CoNFuS3D> ok, here it is...
[09:10] <CoNFuS3D> http://pastebin.com/DB7KH2q2
[09:10] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: Should say ( for example ) Default, 0 HDA Intel, 1 Creative Labs X-fi
[09:10] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: well, I would say a spinning disk, but that's not really an option in your scenario soooo
[09:10] <CoNFuS3D> oh, nope, it doesn't say that... it says...
[09:10] <CoNFuS3D> ca106
[09:10] <CoNFuS3D> saa7134
[09:10] <CoNFuS3D> and default
[09:11] <snowrichard> saa7134 sounds like a tv card
[09:11] <CoNFuS3D> I have a tv tuner card installed... so that is probably why
[09:11] <snowrichard> the ca106 is creative
[09:11] <gaelfx> brb
[09:11] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: So is it worth buying a new SDHC card? Or should I instead buy a larger internal hard drive?
[09:12] <llutz_> Yerushalmi:buy an internal hdd
[09:12] <veleno> anyway to reinstall ubuntu from command-line ?
[09:12] <llutz_> Yerushalmi: but that wouldn't garantee a working hibernation. hibernation with linux is still a tricky thing :(
[09:13] <[thor]> veleno: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <Zeu5> thank u Senjai
[09:13] <Zeu5> for taking over 2 hours to help me with my issues.
[09:13]  * Senjai solved Zeu5's boot problem WAHOO! LO
[09:13] <llutz_> or more exact: hibernation works in most cases, but resuming fails
[09:13] <Zeu5> this is def one of the better channels for sure.
[09:14] <[thor]> Senjai wins over 9000 internets!
[09:14]  * Senjai cheers
[09:14] <Nitrohax> vbox windows host ubuntu guest, need to share a folder from ubuntu to windows. You all got a way?
[09:14] <snowrichard> i want to download the Internet.  Will I need a bigger hard drive? :)
[09:14] <CoNFuS3D> Did you get that pastebin gaelfx ?
[09:14] <veleno> [thor]: is it possible to do it with ubuntu-server as well ?
[09:14] <llutz_> snowrichard: just save it to /dev/null
[09:15] <Nitrohax> snowrichard, if you have a safe filter on all you need is a 512 flash drive
[09:15] <[thor]> veleno: probably, but i am unsure as to the package name
[09:15] <snowrichard> you know i'm joking
[09:15] <[thor]> veleno: apt-cache search ubuntu-server
[09:15] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: yeah, hang on a sec
[09:15] <silverarrow> hi
[09:15] <CoNFuS3D> ok, thanks
[09:15] <veleno> [thor]:  ubuntu-serverguide  ?
[09:15] <snowrichard> we did have a nanny filter, but they took it off temporarily.  Our stupid isp wants to charge extra to take it off.
[09:16] <Nitrohax> snowrichard, proxy it out
[09:16] <[thor]> veleno: probably not.. let me see if i can find the package name
[09:16] <jOZe> hola
[09:16] <Nitrohax> snowrichard, like they do to get around the china firewalls
[09:16] <dagon666> how to force ethernet bridge in linux to forward multicast ? Or maybe my kernel filters it out somehow ?
[09:16] <mman> hola
[09:16] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: did you check the preferences I asked you about?
[09:16] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[09:16] <CoNFuS3D> in alsamixer?
[09:16] <SzatanJotPe> yo!
[09:17] <mman> jOZe, hola
[09:17] <jatt> !es
[09:17] <veleno> strange perl/locale error: http://pastie.org/1588677  i ran dpkg-reconfigure locales, but it did not help
[09:17] <SzatanJotPe> haha
[09:17] <Guest64516> my x11vnc defaults to display :1, should be display :0, i cant think of anything i have changed except updates. I am on ubnutu 10.04. any ideas? how to kill or list active displays
[09:17] <SzatanJotPe> lol
[09:17] <SzatanJotPe> noob
[09:17] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: no, the ones for pulse. Click the Speaker icon at the top of your desktop and select preferences and go to the tab that says "Output"
[09:18] <CoNFuS3D> there is no speaker icon
[09:18] <SzatanJotPe> gaelfx
[09:18] <Yerushalmi> llutz_: Well, I never had any problems resuming from hibernation. Only in actually getting the computer to shut down between hibernate and resume :p
[09:18] <SzatanJotPe> !
[09:19] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: ok, the control for volume
[09:20] <Senjai> [thor] do you know what I had to get her to do?
[09:20] <CoNFuS3D> Doesn't seem to be one...
[09:20] <[thor]> Senjai: sudo nautilus? :D
[09:20] <Senjai> [thor] she had to edit her grub settings, boot into single user mode, chown the folder from there, and reboot without nomodeset, just quiet and splash. Lol
[09:20] <Senjai> [thor] and that was hard to explain to her lol
[09:20] <CoNFuS3D> The only thing I have to access sound is the sound manager in system > prefs > sound.. but that doesn't work
[09:21] <silverarrow> how slow is a net with ca 4 Mbits dowload speed?
[09:21] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, try right clicking the volume control and then advanced options
[09:21] <snowrichard> i was installing on an old gateway and the Nouveau didn't work on it either.  I had to put in that nomodeset too
[09:21] <CoNFuS3D> there is no volume control
[09:21] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: there's no volume control? maybe you need to add that to your panel then
[09:22] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: the "speaker icon" and "volume control" they are talking about is the same app as sys>pref>sound..
[09:22] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, do you have a volume control button on the keyboard?
[09:22] <Jonii^> For reasons I do not really understand, ubuntu installation program doesn't find my windows installation, and suggests I should wipe the entire disk to install ubuntu
[09:22] <CoNFuS3D> I can't use the sound thing.. it just stalls
[09:22] <CoNFuS3D> no
[09:22] <Jonii^> What do I do?
[09:22] <Prinler> Hmmm found i needed a SPDIF wire connected from my video card to my motherboard... never had to do that before... good thing my wife didnt toss the box like she normally does!
[09:23] <leto> hello
[09:23] <Senjai> hola leto
[09:23] <Nitrohax> !hello
[09:23] <Jonii^> I've gone to moderate lengths just to ensure that my Windows installation remains
[09:23] <jacky> ln -i
[09:23] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: ok, try right-clicking the panel and add to panel... then add indicator applet
[09:23] <Senjai> Jonii^ lol, moderate lengths
[09:23] <Senjai> Jonii^, you just let it sit there, no?
[09:23] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: if that doesn't get you a volume control, then there must be entirely something else wrong
[09:24] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, ubuntu full install and then vbox for windows
[09:24] <CoNFuS3D> nope, that just made another envelope appear
[09:24] <[thor]> gaelfx: he has mentioned previously that attempting to open the sound control app hangs attempting to access the sound devices
[09:24] <Jonii^> Nitrohax, eh, so, what do I do when it suggests I should wipe the entire disk?
[09:25] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, have you loaded the restricted-access package?
[09:25] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, do you want to keep your windows partition?
[09:25] <[thor]> restricted-extras
[09:25] <CoNFuS3D> I'm not sure
[09:26] <[thor]> !info restricted-extras
[09:26] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, I would do that then look for drivers, you might have one of those crazy cards, or mobo's that need a sounds driver for alsa to work
[09:26] <CoNFuS3D> It used to work, with my onboard sound card, but it was very glitchy and all that, so I got this new card, and now I have no sound at all...
[09:26] <alisalaah> is there a way to get the mac os x equivalent in Ubuntu of cmd+shift+3 or 4 ... and if anyone knows if there is a way to do better than that and do the same thing but instead of PNG file to desktop you could get back a Image URL to clipboard?
[09:26] <gaelfx> as an aside, does anyone know a VNC client for windows that allows you to scale the desktop to the client's size?
[09:27] <silvery> !bug #57001
[09:27] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, you need the drivers then
[09:27] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: you reinstalled alsa, right?
[09:27] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[09:27] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: have you tried restarting since that?
[09:27] <CoNFuS3D> no
[09:27] <CoNFuS3D> I will give that a go.. brb
[09:28] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, log out and then in it's the same
[09:28] <CoNFuS3D> ok
[09:28] <Jonii^> Nitrohax, yes I do want to keep my windows partition
[09:28] <[thor]> alisalaah: you want to take screenshots?
[09:28] <Jonii^> If I don't, how I'm gonna play Half-Life 2?
[09:28] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, then let it install a partition auto in the free space, not enitre disk. It will load in grub for OS boot choice
[09:28] <alisalaah> but a hotkey that allows me to highlight a box on screen of what to screenshot
[09:28] <Prinler> OMFG!!! 128GB!!!! Thumb Drives? #$%^$%^&#
[09:29] <alisalaah> and if possible a hotkey to do the same but get back a url for the image
[09:29] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, have you looked into half life being played in WINe?
[09:29] <Jonii^> Nitrohax, it doesn't seem to recognize that there is anything beside free space on my disk. It says "no other operating system found" and all
[09:29] <CoNFuS3D> no such luck :(
[09:29] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, have you installed ubuntu already?
[09:30] <Jonii^> Nope
[09:30] <[thor]> alisalaah: check the Software Center for the package "shutter"
[09:30] <alisalaah> [thor]: yes, but in the way mac os did it.. and is it possible to do it and get a url into clipboard?
[09:30] <alisalaah> [thor]: thank you
[09:30] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, when you put the disc in to install it it will ask you if you want to partition and then you would pick use free space and let it do it auto, NOT ENTIRE DISK!!!
[09:30] <CoNFuS3D> Is it time to give up?
[09:30] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, no
[09:31] <Jonii^> Because I want to make sure Windows survives this operation. I have 14,5 GB partition prepared for this installation, and all that
[09:31] <wiot> 5
[09:31] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, are you just going to use ubuntu to see if you like it?
[09:31] <Senjai> rww the merciful?
[09:32] <gaelfx> CoNFuS3D: well, that stinks
[09:32] <CoNFuS3D> you're telling me :/
[09:32] <Prinler> Ok, I just rebooted after installing a SPDIF cable on my video card... now X cant find any monitors?
[09:32] <Senjai> rww is IRCOp election time coming up? :P
[09:32] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, have you tried looking for drivers?
[09:32] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[09:32] <CoNFuS3D> everything I found either didn't work, or was too hard to do....
[09:32] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, display driver but no audio?
[09:32] <rww> Senjai: freenode doesn't elect ircops ;P
[09:32] <CoNFuS3D> i.e. me being a newb and all
[09:33] <Jonii^> Nitrohax, the installation doesn't seem to think that there is anything but free space on my disk. It had two devices(plus my USB hard drive, so three), neither had size or any other information about those
[09:33] <CoNFuS3D> yes, display works fine
[09:33] <CoNFuS3D> but no audio
[09:33] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, just go thru it slowly.
[09:33] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, have you thought about using the wubi version installation?
[09:33] <ardchoille> Senjai: ban list has a limit on the number of entries, it's good to clear it out now and then
[09:33] <Jonii^> Nitrohax, I am most likely going to switch to ubuntu from Windows
[09:33] <MintUser> hello
[09:33] <Senjai> ardchoille, we really have that many misbehaviours?
[09:33] <CoNFuS3D> Jonii^, I'm looking at doing the opposite soon :P
[09:33] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, well before deletign everything try the WUBI install.
[09:34] <ardchoille> Senjai: in a channel this popular and this big, yes
[09:34] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, what kind of sound card do you have?
[09:34] <gaelfx> Nitrohax: he's using X-Fi Extreme Audio card, it's supposed to be in ALSA
[09:34] <Jonii^> That's the point, I'm not gonna delete everything :/
[09:34] <CoNFuS3D> it's a soundblaster x-fi xtreme audio
[09:34] <Nitrohax> hmmm... one sec
[09:34] <gaelfx> for a coupla years now too
[09:34] <Jonii^> Now, I need to figure out how to deal with this installation program
[09:34] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, the wubi doesn't delete or even change the format of anything. so your windows won't be touched.
[09:34] <Jonii^> And if either of those devices it found would be safe to install
[09:35] <Jonii^> What does WUBI do then?
[09:35] <MintUser> If Linux Mint automatically picked up my wifi card, would Ubuntu?
[09:35] <[thor]> Jonii^: WUBI is Windows UBuntu Installer
[09:36] <[thor]> installs from within the windows environment.
[09:36] <ardchoille> [thor]: sounds like a VM thing
[09:36] <Jonii^> Humm... I tried that once before, it didn't work, though since then, I've decrypted my hard drive
[09:36] <[thor]> ardchoille: you can do that as well
[09:37] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, it installs it like a program in windows undr add remove but still lets you boot into ubuntu on start up with out changing the format. might have some problems on the ubuntu side but very minimal
[09:37] <gaelfx> MintUser: it ought to, but the best way to find out is live
[09:37] <gaelfx> (as in LiveCD/LiveUSB
[09:37] <gaelfx> )
[09:38] <Jonii^> That doesn't sound too good
[09:38] <Jonii^> I'd rather just figure out that partition/installation program
[09:38] <MintUser> gaelfx: lol oh yeah, i feel like noob now.
[09:38] <Jonii^> Like, it should be possible to just install Ubuntu to an empty space on my disk?
[09:39] <ardchoille> Jonii^: if there's enough space for the system, it should yes
[09:39] <[thor]> Jonii^: have you tried booting to the LiveCD ( try without installing ) and then using the graphical installation?
[09:39] <Nitrohax> Jonii^, that's where i was going how much free space do you have?
[09:39] <Jonii^> 14,5 GB
[09:39] <ardchoille> that's plenty
[09:39] <Nitrohax> i would use the graphical. it's easier to under stand and it's the first option already selected
[09:39] <ardchoille> I think 3GB is the requirement
[09:40] <Jonii^> Windows shows Disk 0 partitioned into 4 different... What's the English word for that? Like, drive or something? That invisible windows backup drive, C:, D:, and empty space
[09:40] <ardchoille> partitions
[09:41] <MintUser> lol
[09:41] <histo> Jonii^: partitions
[09:41] <Jonii^> Well, that
[09:41] <Nitrohax> ok c: is your windows, d: is your recovery and the rest can be sized in a linux partition with out over writing windows partitions
[09:41] <histo> Jonii^: you could install it to the unpartioned empty space
[09:41] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, you there?
[09:42] <Jonii^> histo, that's why there is empty space in the first place
[09:42] <histo> Jonii^: or you can shrink the windows partition and give yourself more room to install ubuntu.
[09:42] <histo> Jonii^: you can also install ubuntu inside of the windows drive.
[09:42] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[09:42] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, i think i have a solution try here http://www.userdrivers.com/Sound-Card/Creative-Sound-Blaster-X-Fi-Series-Linux-32-bit-64-bit-Beta-Driver/
[09:42] <histo> !install | Jonii^
[09:42] <Jonii^> But the installation program doesn't seem to detect there is any partitioning on the disk at all. It didn't detect any operating systems either
[09:42]  * chalcedony smiles
[09:42] <CoNFuS3D> googling stuff atm
[09:42] <histo> !wubi > Jonii^
[09:43] <histo> Jonii^: are you booted from the live cd at the moment?
[09:43] <chalcedony> i'm trying to decide where to write/look/talk/complain about a computer problem. it won't attach the correct file when i want to attach files to mails, or uploads. it's inconsistent with files of all types. a good percentage of the time, it's trying to send my xchat.conf instead of the correct file
[09:43] <Jonii^> Nope, windows, I came back to check my partitioning from windows point of view
[09:43] <CoNFuS3D> awesome... 404 :/
[09:43] <Jonii^> I could try booting back to Ubuntu live cd
[09:43] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, one sec
[09:44] <Nitrohax> http://www.userdrivers.com/Sound-Card/Creative-Sound-Blaster-X-Fi-Series-Linux-32-bit-64-bit-Beta-Driver/
[09:44] <Nitrohax> that better?
[09:44] <alisalaah> Okay, major problem, I can speedtest at 24mbps down on my windows computer ... but here on my Ubuntu laptop I get less than 1mbps?
[09:44] <Jonii^> Oh well, I'll be back
[09:44] <Jonii^> ->
[09:44] <CoNFuS3D> nah that works, but when ya click on the download link, it goes to 404
[09:44] <Nitrohax> oh, one sec
[09:44] <histo> Jonii^: well while you in the livecd. you can check which partitions it's seeing by clicking Applications > Accessories > terminal  and running the command sudo fdisk -l    That will list the partitions
[09:45] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: http://ccfiles.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/AVP/10530/0xE84AB36F/XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
[09:45] <viktor133> can anybody help me with a problem when streaming videos?
[09:45] <histo> alisalaah: are you running winbind
[09:45] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, try this one http://www.userdrivers.com/Sound-Card/Creative-Sound-Blaster-X-Fi-Series-Linux-32-bit-64-bit-Beta-Driver/download/
[09:45] <alisalaah> histo: unsure what that is
[09:45] <CoNFuS3D> same thing, 404
[09:45] <Nitrohax> i see it though
[09:45] <chalcedony> i'm trying to decide where to write/look/talk/complain about my problem? i have a new ubuntu 10.04. it won't attach the correct file when i want to attach files to mails, or uploads. it's inconsistent with files of all types. a good percentage of the time, it's trying to send my xchat.conf instead of the correct file, how do
[09:45] <chalcedony> i file a bug report?
[09:46] <histo> alisalaah: did you ever edit your /etc/nsswitch.conf file?
[09:46] <CoNFuS3D> hmm... weird
[09:46] <histo> chalcedony: bugs.launchpad.net
[09:46] <histo> chalcedony: or the forums
[09:46] <Nitrohax> you aren't clicking the big download thing on the bottom are you?
[09:46] <CoNFuS3D> no
[09:46] <gaelfx> is there a VNC client for windows that lets you scale the desktop to match the client's size?
[09:46] <chalcedony> histo, where would be best?
[09:46] <alisalaah> histo: no
[09:46] <CoNFuS3D> http://ccfiles.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/AVP/10530/0xE84AB36F/XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.18.tar.gz
[09:46] <CoNFuS3D> that is what I am trying to download
[09:46] <CoNFuS3D> goes to 404
[09:46] <Nitrohax> http://www.userdrivers.com/url.php?link=aHR0cDovL2NjZmlsZXMuY3JlYXRpdmUuY29tL21hbnVhbGRuL0RyaXZlcnMvQVZQLzEwNTMwLzB4RTg0QUIzNkYvWEZpRHJ2X0xpbnV4X1VTLTEuMTgudGFyLmd6
[09:47] <histo> chalcedony: I would file a bug, or search if one has already been filed
[09:47] <Nitrohax> try that one CoNFuS3D
[09:47] <[thor]> Nitrohax: i pasted without trying... i get the same result
[09:47] <CoNFuS3D> same thing again :(
[09:47] <Nitrohax> ?
[09:47] <Nitrohax> why am i seeing it. one sec again
[09:47] <histo> CoNFuS3D: contact there admin
[09:47] <ardchoille> eeww, and it uses IIS
[09:47] <chalcedony> thank you histo
[09:47] <CoNFuS3D> brb, just tried something that needs a reboot....
[09:48] <Nitrohax> CoNFuS3D, lets try this backassward way then
[09:48] <viktor133> can somebody help me with a problem streaming videos? files don't got to /tmp anymore, and i don't know where they are
[09:48] <Nitrohax> confused try googling Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Series Linux 32-bit/64-bit Beta Driver ... and it's should be the fourth result from userdrivers and try to get it from there
[09:48] <[thor]> Nitrohax: i saw the link as well, but it won't download
[09:49] <[thor]> http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/267038/creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-series-driver-1.18-beta-linux(x32-x64)-free-download.html
[09:49] <[thor]> for when he returns :D
[09:49] <Nitrohax> thor must the the windows i'm using atm trying to fix it
[09:49] <gaelfx> nevermind, I think I found it: ssvnc
[09:49] <Nitrohax> copied it ty
[09:50] <wokko> hey guys when i open terminal i only get a flashing line
[09:50] <histo> wokko: what terminal?
[09:50] <[thor]> wokko: does it respond to commands?
[09:50] <wokko> histo guake
[09:51] <thegame> yes... terminal is like command prompt in windows..
[09:51] <Nitrohax> are you sure the flashing line isn't the cursor for typing?
[09:51] <wokko> doesnt let me type anything
[09:51] <sagaci> wokko, press f12
[09:52] <histo> wokko: sounds like it's failing to start properly
[09:52] <wokko> installed lxterm too and same problem
[09:53] <[thor]> wokko: no idea pal, i'm using gnome-terminal w/ bashish.
[09:53] <CoNFuS3D> hmm, well that didn't work
[09:53] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/267038/creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-series-driver-1.18-beta-linux(x32-x64)-free-download.html
[09:54] <viktor133> can anybody tell me where streamed video files go on your system?
[09:54] <CoNFuS3D> thanks, will give it a go now
[09:55] <sagaci> viktor, browser's cache
[09:55] <whitefire> help me, after installing driver NVIDIA GeForce 310M ( laptop acer aspire 5745g) with Additional Driver i can't use graphic
[09:55] <viktor133> sagaci: thnks, where do i find that?
[09:55] <veleno> any idea how to fix this strange locale error on 10.04 http://pastie.org/1588752  ?
[09:55] <sagaci> viktor, well what browser do you use
[09:55] <histo> whitefire: which driver did you install?
[09:56] <viktor133> firefox
[09:56] <veleno> sorry i meant http://pastie.org/1588753
[09:56] <viktor133> files used to go to /tmp but they don't anymore...
[09:56] <kj6lxu> i just set up a Dancer-IRCD server with dancer-services on ubuntu 10.04 but the server will not list channals ?
[09:57] <sagaci> viktor, ~/.mozilla/firefox/randomsequence/Cache
[09:58] <whitefire> I don't know, Additional Driver recommend
[10:01] <histo> whitefire: And what do you mean by i can't use graphic?
[10:01] <viktor133> sagaci, owkeej thnks
[10:01] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/default.aspx  <---- !!!!!!
[10:01] <MintUser> Ubuntu is bootable  live then yo can install, correct?
[10:01] <whitefire> I can't startX
[10:01] <histo> !who | whitefire
[10:02] <histo> whitefire: can you boot to recovery console from the grub menu?
[10:03] <gholtzcomix> Hey everyone: I had a question about uploading to a home server from a computer on the same network as the server. Does anyone know anything about this?
[10:03] <whitefire> how to put nickname in what I say :(
[10:03] <kj6lxu> i just set up Dancer-IRCD (irc server) on 10.04 but it will NOT list the channals ???
[10:03] <snowrichard> gholtzcomix, do you have ftp or ssh servers on the  home server?
[10:03] <histo> whitefire: begin typing a nickname like his then hit the <tab>. So his<tab>
[10:04] <jayvan_> has anybody enabled the log out sound in ubuntu lucid?
[10:04] <gholtzcomix> I have vsftpd installed, which works fine from outside of the network.
[10:04] <snowrichard> then you should be able to use an ftp client and the ip or the hostname as the server address
[10:05] <gholtzcomix> snow, I've tried doing that, but it uploads very slowly to about 3%, then the connection times out. I can upload via FTP from work just fine, though...
[10:05] <gholtzcomix> do you think there is a conflict because the server and source of the upload share the same router?
[10:06] <snowrichard> the router should be able to handle that but i don't know.  I get like 3Mb/s when I do it locally here
[10:07] <gholtzcomix> Do you use the same process as when you are outside the network?
[10:07] <ratih> How to extract xml from PDF ? plz
[10:07] <ylmfos> 晕，这咋是英文阿
[10:07] <snowrichard> yeah i have a hostname
[10:07] <snowrichard> use that
[10:07] <gholtzcomix> is your hostname just the IP address of your server?
[10:07] <ylmfos> hello!
[10:08] <snowrichard> no i have a domain name
[10:08] <snowrichard> the server is set up on dmz
[10:08] <gholtzcomix> hmm. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, then...
[10:08] <silverarrow> hi
[10:09] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: oh.. i finally found a working .tar.gz link
[10:09] <[thor]> CoNFuS3D: http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
[10:10] <gholtzcomix> When I try to use FileZilla to upload a file to the server downstairs, I can log in and access the folders, but when I try to upload a file, it goes for a bit, then times out and tries to restart.
[10:11] <snowrichard> gholtzcomix, maybe try a different client --  i have had some problems like that with filezilla.  ncftp is an easy command line one
[10:11] <taran> I want my command ione to access HP authorised server
[10:12] <Yerushalmi> Has anybody here ever run their hard drive off an SD/SDHC card, and, if so, did it work out for you?
[10:12] <whitefire> histo: I can boot to recovery from grub
[10:13] <Slartibart> Hi. Anyone knows how to restart /usr/sbin/nmbd ? Strange thing is that I can't find it in /etc/init.d, so I hope there's another way?
[10:13] <silverarrow> do you know the common reason why a DVD film is not detected by Ubuntu or Totem player?
[10:13] <llutz_> Slartibart: service nmd restart
[10:13] <frogzoo> what's the easiest way to turn a collection of mp3s into a dvd?
[10:13] <llutz_> Slartibart: sudo service nmb restart           sry typo
[10:13] <silverarrow> i have a newly installed Maveric, but have tried to add all the restricted stuff
[10:14] <frogzoo> !dvd
[10:14] <llutz_> Slartibart: look for upstart scripts in /etc/init if that won't work
[10:14] <silverarrow> fogzoo, for read on compters only?
[10:14] <iflema> Yerushalmi: yes, this message is from it....
[10:14] <histo> whitefire: okay when you get a terminal try the following
[10:14] <frogzoo> silverarrow: for dvd players
[10:14] <histo> whitefire: dpkg -l | grep nvidia     that will show you what nvidia driver package you have installed
[10:14] <histo> whitefire: should be soemthing like nvidia-glx-****
[10:14] <Yerushalmi> iflema: How big a drive? Ever had corruption or read/write problems?
[10:14] <silverarrow> on thanks frogzoo, it looks like I have to take look at it again
[10:15] <iflema> Yerushalmi: 8gig and no
[10:15] <histo> whitefire: once you find that package type in sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-restofname
[10:15] <histo> whitefire: then reboot
[10:15] <silverarrow> is there any reason why I should be able to make Ubuntu do all the stuff Linuxmint does?
[10:15] <silverarrow> not be able*
[10:15] <Slartibart> llutz_: That was quick :), thanks. Seems service isn't installed though, debian-helper-scripts and sysvconfig are suggested packages, does it matter which one of them I install, regarding service?
[10:15] <iflema> Yerushalmi: but this system doent do all that much its go no RAM... 128mb
[10:16] <Camarata> restarted and all i get is command line
[10:16] <sagaci> silverarrow, well wouldn't it just make sense to install mint rather than ubuntu
[10:16] <silverarrow> iflema, have you tried flubuntu?
[10:16] <Camarata> i didnt change anything was just getting slow wireless, after restart no way to get to Ubuntu desktop, pelase help
[10:16] <llutz_> Slartibart: sysvinit-utils
[10:17] <llutz_> Slartibart: what version are you using if "service" is not installed
[10:17] <llutz_> ?
[10:17] <iflema> Yerushalmi: two thumbdrives actually... on for a swap as well and no to flubuntu
[10:17]  * iflema googles
[10:17] <silverarrow> I'm thinking of getting one of those superflat Macs
[10:17] <Jonii^> Ok
[10:17] <Jonii^> So, my drive has a broken partition table
[10:18] <Jonii^> Thus, Ubuntu thinks it's entirely unallocated
[10:18] <llutz_> Slartibart: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart            should do it on older versions (pre-upstart)
[10:18] <Jonii^> The cool thing is, Windows doesn't mind this at all
[10:19] <iflema> silverarrow: no
[10:19] <Jonii^> It boots up just fine and finds all the files that it's supposed to, and disk partition tool in windows sees every partition there is
[10:19] <whitefire> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/569984/
[10:19] <Jonii^> Now I need to figure out how to make this Windows interpretation of partition table canon
[10:19] <Slartibart> llutz_: Yup, that last one did it. Thanks :). lsb_release -r says "Release: 8.04"
[10:19] <llutz_> Slartibart: ancient...
[10:20] <llutz_> Slartibart:consider upgrading
[10:20] <histo> whitefire: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[10:20] <silverarrow> iflema, what are you running now?
[10:20] <silverarrow> iflema, for os I mean
[10:20] <Slartibart> llutz_: Ok, will try to talk them into it.
[10:20] <histo> whitefire: then sudo reboot     and see if X works
[10:21] <histo> whitefire: wait
[10:21] <histo> whitefire: it is removed right now.
[10:21] <histo> whitefire: did you remove it?
[10:22] <whitefire> histo: yes
[10:22] <Jonii^> So, if anyone knows anyone who knows about partition stuff, please forward me to him/her
[10:22] <histo> whitefire: okay if you removed it try booting and see if X is working again
[10:22] <silverarrow> iflema, I have done much the same playing around with an old laptop, it now has a bit more ram than it used too, VLC runs fine on it
[10:22] <histo> Jonii^: What is your question about partitioning?
[10:23] <Jonii^> histo, my drive has a broken partition table, somehow
[10:23] <whitefire> histo: it work
[10:23] <Jonii^> But, Windows finds every file and partition. It's just that Ubuntu does not
[10:24] <Jonii^> So now I need to figure out how to fix this
[10:24] <AegisX> Hey guys; I'd like to set a static IP address for my wireless, and I'm new to both Ubuntu and networking. Can anyone guide me through it?
[10:24] <histo> Jonii^: okay one sec. if not someone else can help you
[10:25] <histo> whitefire: alright now what type of nvidia card do you have? you can find out by lspci | grep VGA
[10:25] <iflema> silverarrow: lol... this thing has one damaged ram slot and maxs out at 128 per slot, or is it 256... anyway this is off topic =)
[10:25] <Jonii^> I'm not sure, I just read on a website that a partition table is invalid if it has more than one primary partitions, windows shows that both my C: and D: are primary partitions
[10:25] <silverarrow> iflema, extra ram for laptops like that are often super cheap, if it takes PC100 Sodimm I have a 250MB memory you can have
[10:25] <histo> Jonii^: you can have up to 4 primary partitions and thats the limit
[10:25] <sacarlson> Jonii^: so what is seen with sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit ?
[10:25] <Gnea> Jonii^: perhaps you interpretted that wrong
[10:25] <Jonii^> Err...
[10:26] <Jonii^> sacarlson, I forgot to do that. fdisk -l showed 5 partitions
[10:26] <Gnea> Jonii^: you can have 4 primary partitions, or up to 3 primary parititions and as many logical parititions as you need
[10:26] <whitefire> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/569985/ I want to use NVIDIA card
[10:26] <hemza> what is the best way to surf securely and none on local network can see what you are doing ????
[10:27] <Gnea> hemza: define 'surf'
[10:27] <Jonii^> EISA-setting-stuff that windows has as SDA1, C: as SDA2, D: as SDA3, empty space with file system "extended" as SDA4, and something I don't know of as SDA5
[10:27] <hateball> hemza: Use https
[10:27] <ExiledVip3r> I've been tyring to recompile php without suhosin, and keep getting this error on debuild: http://pastebin.com/MtXirCT4
[10:27] <ExiledVip3r> any ideas?
[10:27] <silverarrow> iflema, I see lol, but it can be fun making an extra workstation from these old things. As long as it boots up fine, the extra ram is used by the system even if it excees max RAM specs
[10:27] <sagaci> http://pastebin.com/gvLPeTzw
[10:27] <histo> Jonii^: can you install pastebinit to the box and then just sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[10:28] <sacarlson> Jonii^:  just pastebinit to use so we can give you instructions on how to mount it
[10:28] <Jonii^> That something I don't know of was quite large
[10:28] <hemza> hateball, some site do not except this option ... how to do ?
[10:28] <histo> whitefire: is the intel like on onboard card?
[10:28] <Jonii^> How do I join this channel from liveCD?
[10:28] <iflema> silverarrow: im just as happy without a gui belive it or not... this thing serves its purpose well... but thanks for the offer cheif =) mplayer/mencoder ftw
[10:28] <hemza> Gnea, what do you mean
[10:28] <whitefire> histo: yes
[10:28] <Jonii^> I don't think I can install any programs, and if I don't, Ubuntu doesn't come with IRC client
[10:28] <sacarlson> Jonii^: I don't even think you will need to use a livecd to mount it
[10:29] <silverarrow> filema; GUI ?
[10:29] <Jonii^> sacarlson, so, what do I do now that I'm using Windows?
[10:29] <silverarrow> iflema, never heard of your player
[10:30] <AegisX> Anyone? Is there an easy way to set a static IP address for a wireless card?
[10:30] <histo> whitefire: do you use it at all?
[10:30] <sacarlson> Jonii^: just boot into your ubuntu,  it does boot doen't it?
[10:30] <silverarrow> iflema, what kind of laptop is it?
[10:30] <histo> whitefire: also what type of machine is this? Is it custom built or does it have a make / model?
[10:30] <Jonii^> sacarlson, I don't have Ubuntu installed yet, because I don't want to lose my Windows
[10:30] <Gnea> hemza: I mean exactly what I said.
[10:30] <Jonii^> So if I wanna use Ubuntu, gotta use live CD until I manage to fix my partition table
[10:30] <sacarlson> Jonii^: then I don't understand the problem
[10:31] <Gnea> hemza: really, the best way to keep locals out of your business is to use a firewall. iptables can solve that.
[10:31] <sacarlson> Jonii^: you can mount it from a livecd also if that's what you want
[10:31] <silverarrow> iflema, if you managed to install Ubuntu, then no need to look any futher
[10:31] <Jonii^> sacarlson, I need to fix the partition table so that I can install the Ubuntu to the empty space on my disk, without formatting the entire disk and thus wiping out my Windows
[10:32] <Jonii^> But, when I boot using live cd, I don't have IRC client available
[10:32] <DJones> Jonii^: I thought the livecd had xchat installed as a default irc client
[10:32] <Jonii^> DJones, oh well, I'll go check
[10:32] <sacarlson> Jonii^: that is not a problem from livecd you can modify and  mount the partitons as needed
[10:32] <sagaci> if it doesn't just sudo apt-get install xchat
[10:32] <iflema> silverarrow: graphical user interface , THE player =) and you got it
[10:32] <Jemt> XChat is not included by default
[10:33] <Jonii^> So, how do I fix the partition table?
[10:33] <chalcedony> i created a user on the ubuntu forum and launchpad too, but how do i file my bug or create a post?
[10:33] <histo> whitefire: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4954/how-to-get-nvidia-geforce-gt-210-drivers-working-on-lucid-lynx
[10:33] <Jonii^> I'll boot to Ubuntu, I'll use my netbook to get to irc
[10:33] <Jonii^> ->
[10:33] <histo> whitefire: read all the way down on that page
[10:33] <silverarrow> iflema, cool, I have to check it out
[10:33] <hemza> Gnea, could you give me a link to learn more to define a surf or how to use iptable
[10:33] <histo> Doesnt' ubuntu come with xchat what is jonii^ talking about?
[10:34] <whitefire> histo: sorry, I don't understand. my computer is acer aspire 5745g and I think use NVIDIA better than Intel so I try to install driver
[10:34] <Gnea> !iptables | hemza
[10:34] <sacarlson> Jonii^: there is nothing wrong with the partition table since you say windows see's it all so just resize a space if needed and delete a partition to allow the ubuntu to install
[10:34] <chalcedony> histo, better to get the real xchat - #xchat than xchat gnome
[10:34] <silverarrow> weirdly enough, I'm having more trouble with my main every day computer than the tiny old one
[10:34] <histo> whitefire: The reason I was asking is because some computers have two cards that switches between the two.
[10:34] <Gnea> hemza: basically, you'd want to deny any incoming connection except for higher port ranges so that web browsers and things like that will work
[10:35] <histo> whitefire: what version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[10:36] <whitefire> when I use win7 I can switch between 2 card by press 1 button in my computer
[10:36] <whitefire> histo: 10.10
[10:36] <histo> whitefire: yeah
[10:36] <histo> whitefire: that's the problem the graphics switching let me find directions
[10:38] <MacGyver_> For some reason, Gnome on 10.10 completely ignores the "separate layout for each window" option.
[10:38] <hemza> Gnea, nice. I know how to deny any incoming connection but how to add exception
[10:38] <whitefire> histo: with ubuntu, how I know I'm using Nvidia card or Intel card
[10:38] <MacGyver_> Known bug, or is it me?
[10:38] <Jonii> http://pastebin.com/XPYvshFd
[10:38] <histo> whitefire: there is a program to switch between them if you want. that
[10:39] <histo> whitefire: one person I found says that you need to use the propriatary driver from nvidia.com for vga to work.
[10:39] <histo> whitefire: and there is vgaswitcheroo to switch betwene the intel and the nvidia
[10:39] <CoNFuS3D> hmm, so I started downloading that driver, and half way through it, my connection died.... it was going at only 2KB/s
[10:40] <histo> whitefire: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1523756&page=2  this thread maybe of help
[10:40] <CrystalLinux> Woah, sloooooooooow connection.#
[10:41] <CoNFuS3D> nah.... it's the site, everything else is fast
[10:41] <Jonii> http://pastebin.com/XPYvshFd <- Here's the result of fdisk -l . Now, sda5 seems to be the suspect
[10:41] <CoNFuS3D> I get usually about 1.5MB/s
[10:41] <Jonii> But I have no idea what that sda5 is
[10:41] <Jonii> And what to do about it
[10:42] <Jonii> So, what do I do??
[10:42] <histo> !nvidia | whitefire
[10:42] <histo> whitefire: you may also want to0 look there for install the binary driver
[10:43] <MacGyver_> Basically, when I switch the layout for one window, I do not want other windows to use that layout. But at the moment, this is what happens. Sometimes this is even the case even though the layout indicator states the correct layout is being used.
[10:43] <MacGyver_> So it appears that the indicator is "lying", and that the "separate layout for each window" option isn't working like it should.
[10:44] <histo> Jonii: maybe some kind of screwed up recovery partition from the factory?
[10:44] <Jonii> histo, nope, SDA1 is the recovery partition
[10:44] <histo> Jonii: so you didn't create sda5 then?
[10:44] <dean[w]> A colleague disconnected my second monitor and i have an important application open on the 2nd monitor. Ubuntu still thinks I have the 2nd monitor plugged in. I need a way of moving the window back to monitor 1. Any suggestions? I don't have the 2nd monitor handy right now
[10:45] <Jonii> histo, nope
[10:45] <Fuchs> dean[w]: wmctrl
[10:45] <histo> Jonii: well then delete it
[10:45] <Jonii> Or, not intentionally, at least
[10:45] <histo> Jonii: and create logical paritions when you install ubuntu.
[10:45] <sacarlson> Jonii: I guess you  can just delete partitions sda4, sda5, sda1.  I'm not sure what sda1 may be and I'm not sure what effect it may have to delete it so maybe just keep that for now
[10:45] <dean[w]> Fuchs, wmctrl?
[10:45] <histo> Jonii: you can most likely remove sda4 as well and just leave the free space for the ubuntu installer
[10:46] <Jonii> But I had whole systme encryption a while ago, and while that was on, I tried installing Ubuntu, Debian, arch and lots of other stuff
[10:46] <histo> Jonii: let it make the extended partitions for you.
[10:46] <histo> Jonii: ahh
[10:46] <tjc_> hi all!i have a little problem!it appears a red triangle i n the right superior part of my screen saying that the update information is outdated!but my system is updated!any help?
[10:46] <histo> Jonii: that maybe an encrypted swap left over
[10:46] <Codesleuth> I've installed Cacti through the package installer, and now I need to configure the site in Apache2 to only allow my local subnet to view the site. Where is the config for Cacti installed when you use the package installer?
[10:47] <histo> Jonii: if you are sure that C and D are sda2 and sda3 and you don't need the data on sda5 then I would sudo cfdisk and remove sda4 and sda5 then proceed to install ubuntu to the freespace ont he drive.
[10:47] <Jonii> histo, the size is a close match
[10:47] <sacarlson> histo: Jonii: I concure
[10:47] <Jonii> My C is about 250gb, and my D is about 350gb
[10:48] <Jonii> And both empty space and that windows rescue section were around 14gb
[10:48] <Jonii> Windows also listed these in this exact order, rescue section, C:, D:, and then empty space
[10:49] <histo> Jonii: well then remove sda4 and sda5 and proceed with the ubuntu installation. IT will ask you to use the freespace on the drive. It will create another primary then extended for swap
[10:49] <histo> Jonii: scratch that
[10:49] <histo> Jonii: hopefully it will create exteneded or just one primary we'll seel
[10:49] <histo> Jonii: cuz you're already using 3 primaries
[10:49] <Jonii> so, I write sudo cfdisk?
[10:50] <histo> Jonii: yea
[10:50] <blag> whats the last ubuntu release that has python 2.4?
[10:50] <Jonii> Fatal error, bad primary partition 3
[10:50] <Jonii> This seems bad
[10:51] <snowrichard> Jonii sometimes fdisk will work when cfdisk doesn't
[10:51] <Jonii> partition ends in the final partial cylinder
[10:51] <histo> Jonii: the only think I see wrong is that 3 starts ont he same black that 2 ends on.
[10:51] <histo> Jonii: yeah try using gparted
[10:52] <Codesleuth> I found it by the way: /etc/apache2/conf.d/cacti.conf
[10:52] <Jonii> gparted lists entire disk as unallocated
[10:52] <whitefire> histo: I use system profile: http://pastebin.com/Pu53Pe5h that mean I'm using Intel or Nvidia card?
[10:52] <snowrichard> Jonii try fdisk
[10:52] <histo> whitefire: right now it's using the intel it looks like
[10:53] <Jonii> snowrichard, err, so?
[10:53] <Jonii> What do I do?
[10:53] <Jonii> sudo fdisk?
[10:53] <histo> whitefire: I would post a message on the forums. This new switching thing i'm not to familar with i'm sure someone else is
[10:53] <tjc_> hi all!i have a little problem!it appears a red triangle i n the right superior part of my screen saying that the update information is outdated!but my system is updated!any help?
[10:53] <snowrichard> Jonii - sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:54] <sacarlson> histo: Jonii: you have that same problem bettween sda3 and sda4 also,  I'm not sure how this could have been working
[10:54] <chalcedony> i'm trying to decide where to write/look/talk/complain about my problem? i have a new ubuntu 10.04. it won't attach the correct file when i want to attach files to mails, or uploads. it's inconsistent with files of all types. what kind of bug is it? where do i file a report?
[10:54] <histo> sacarlson: isn't that not allowed starting and ending being on the same block
[10:54] <silverarrow> totem player works, it seems I missed one lib package
[10:54] <Jonii> My Windows worked just fine :o
[10:54] <silverarrow> but it runs very jerky
[10:54] <histo> sacarlson: well on extended they will be within
[10:55] <silverarrow> jonii, mine don't
[10:55] <silverarrow> I like windows
[10:55] <histo> Jonii: partitionl 3 is definately a problem starting on a block that 2 ends on
[10:55] <sacarlson> histo: I think you can make it happen but it will cause strange problems when you write to the same location it will modify the other partitions data
[10:55] <chalcedony> histo, i tried, but what kind of bug is it and .. i don't see how to make the forum post or report?
[10:55] <Jonii> 0x43a1 flag is invalid, this says
[10:55] <histo> Jonii: and sda4 should not start on 75913 and sda5 starts outside of sda4 it's all messed up table
[10:55] <sacarlson> histo: at this point it's only going to cause problems on his window side
[10:56] <histo> chalcedony: what program are you having the problem in
[10:56] <histo> sacarlson: pretty much
[10:56] <histo> Jonii: alright if it was me. I'd backup my data in windows asap. Then fix the partition table
[10:57] <chalcedony> histo, anything that i try to upload something to
[10:57] <silverarrow> is totem a good player for Maverick or is Mplayer or VLC better/easier?
[10:57] <Jonii> How do I fix partition table?
[10:57] <Codesleuth> Where do I turn off the signature in Apache2? e.g. Apache/2.2.16 (Ubuntu) Server at x.x.x.x Port 80
[10:57] <histo> Jonii: so you understand sda3 should start at 32277 and sda4 should start at 75914. Then the extended sda5 should be wit5hin side of sda4
[10:57] <sacarlson> histo: jonii: there's no way to fix it without a total repartition but I think you could make a working ubuntu if you just delete sda4 and sda5 and fix that location
[10:57] <histo> chalcedony: so A browser?
[10:57] <silverarrow> Jonii, in Gparted?
[10:58] <rww> Codesleuth: If /etc/apache2/conf.d/security exists, in there, under ServerSignature.
[10:58] <histo> Jonii: I think testdisk can fix broken partition tables. I'd just be worried about data loss onthe windows side
[10:58] <Jonii> sacarlson, how do I delete sda4 and sda5?
[10:58] <histo> Jonii: especially your D drive
[10:58] <chalcedony> histo, firefix, opera, dcc, yahoo mail, gmail... .txt .doc. . anything.
[10:58] <sacarlson> Jonii: won't fdisk let you delete them?
[10:58] <rww> Codesleuth: if not, add "ServerSignature Off" to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:58] <Jonii> I don't know
[10:58] <HA1DFO> Hi all. I'm trying to internationalize my drupal site, but the language selectin block seems a bit buggy for me. It displays languages, but the link points to the same location: my site URL without any /en, /hu, trailing language codes. What could be the problem?
[10:59] <histo> chalcedony: so firefox and opera both have the same behavior that the attach the wrong file?
[10:59] <chalcedony> histo, yes
[10:59] <histo> chalcedony: i'm assuming they invoke nautilus when you go to attach a file but I could be wrong.
[10:59] <Jonii> Oh well, I'll start backuping my D: :/
[10:59] <histo> Jonii: that's what I would do before proceeding
[10:59] <chalcedony> histo, hmmmm its in the selection of it, i click on it and it attaches something different that i didn't click
[11:00] <histo> Jonii: it's bad having partitions start and end on the same blocks. I'm sure testdisk will be able to fix it but i'd still back up
[11:00] <Prinler> If i do a lspci i can see the nic card i just installed into my box. Dlink. When i look in the network config no devices found it says.
[11:00] <Codesleuth> rww: thanks! it was in the security file, quick reload to rest...
[11:01] <Codesleuth> rww: yep, that did the trick
[11:01] <Codesleuth> thankyou!
[11:01] <histo> chalcedony: yeah but what application is that? The one you are selected the file from.  I'd run top and see what new pid pops up
[11:01] <rww> Codesleuth: welcome :)
[11:01] <chalcedony> histo hmmmm looking
[11:01] <Codesleuth> seems to be way more confusing for people like me now everything in apache2 is split over all these different configs
[11:02] <Codesleuth> just have to learn them I guess
[11:02] <snowrichard> its taking hours to back up this server.  I don't think i'll want to do this more than once a month lol
[11:03] <histo> chalcedony: I'm in xfce but when I click on choose file in gmail it invokes thunar for the popup window. If you're running gnome i'm sure it's calling nautilus
[11:03] <chalcedony> histo, kondemand/2 /1 /3 ?
[11:03] <histo> chalcedony: you running kde?
[11:04] <chalcedony> histo, i probably have some kde stuff - it's ubuntu 10.04
[11:04] <Yerushalmi> Has anybody here ever run their hard drive off an SD/SDHC card, and, if so, did it work out for you?
[11:04] <histo> chalcedony: oh well if it's 10.04 and you are running gnome. Then it's calling nautilus. So I'd file a bug with nautilus
[11:04] <chalcedony> histo, thank you :)
[11:05] <histo> chalcedony: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[11:06] <L4nce0> hey guys! so I'm having an issue with ubuntu. I'm running it as a VM, anyways, I did a hard turn off and now it wont connect to the network. networking is enabled.. the internet ( obviously) works. my settings for wired network ( which VB uses a virtual one) seems to have been erased. I just added it again, to no real avail. Ideas?
[11:06] <L4nce0> always happens during a big project right =)
[11:07] <Prinler> why did you hard off it?
[11:07] <L4nce0> it was in hybernate and I needed to change a setting
[11:08] <Prinler> well, now your impacience cost you alot didnt it.
[11:08] <L4nce0> yes yes lol
[11:08] <rideh> whats the best way to see what happened to my server at 4 am?
[11:08] <taran> when I run the command "hp-setp" it tries to connect to authorised HP server n than gives mesage "No netowrk connection". My proxy is correctly confiugured
[11:09] <Prinler> wish i could help you, more then just some late night rude remarks :p
[11:09] <L4nce0> hey, I hang out in c++ ircs, I'm totally used to it =P
[11:09] <Prinler> c++ lol so um 80's
[11:09] <L4nce0> that's also why I'll never be a linux guy. last update killed the touchpad and keyboard on my EEE. linux is like glass, just falls apart if you look at it wrong
[11:10] <histo> L4nce0: how are you trying to configure the network?
[11:10] <Prinler> yeah its kinda touchy
[11:10] <chalcedony> histo Error stating file '/home/llhull/ubuntu u-bug nautilus': No such file or directory
[11:11] <histo> chalcedony: what are you trying to do?
[11:11] <chalcedony> histo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[11:11] <chalcedony> Press Alt+F2 to open the "Run Application" window, pictured above. Type ubuntu-bug <package name>
[11:12] <histo> chalcedony: yeah ubuntu-bug nautilus
[11:12] <L4nce0> histo: I'm going to the right hand network icon, I click wired 1, it tries to do something, fails. then sys > network, and click connect automatically. (why do I feel like I'm getting a Karma attack for all my years making fun of people as a computer tech..)
[11:12] <histo> L4nce0: open a terminal and ifconfig
[11:12] <chalcedony> histo, Error stating file '/home/llhull/ubuntu bug nautilus': No such file or directory
[11:13] <histo> L4nce0: soundds more like a virtualbox problem on the host if it can't get dhcp from vbox
[11:13] <L4nce0> http://pastebin.com/Fts9uVYz
[11:13] <histo> chalcedony: uhmm no space
[11:13] <histo> chalcedony: ubuntu-bug nautilus  notice the hyphen
[11:13] <chalcedony> oh i see
[11:13] <chalcedony> ty histo
[11:13] <L4nce0> I wouldn't doubt it. I might just have to finish this on my laptop.. I swear I don't program, I just get software to work
[11:14] <chalcedony> histo, its working
[11:14] <L4nce0> placing my workspace in drop box makes my life so easy, in these situations
[11:14] <snowrichard> L4nce0,  looks like it got an ipv6 address ok
[11:15] <syskk> how do I install a 32 bit libnotify on 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:15] <histo> L4nce0: I'm not sure how vbox does all it's networking stuff on the host to the guest but i'm assuming that's where you problem is. Especially if the guest can't dhcp
[11:15] <histo> L4nce0: #vbox  maybe of help
[11:15] <L4nce0> good point.. I'll see if they know! thanks
[11:15] <histo> L4nce0: ubt I would shutdown the guest and reboot the host and restart virtualbox etc...
[11:16] <histo> L4nce0: if you were using a linux host then that's different. You can restart the kernel module for vbox without rebooting
[11:17] <L4nce0> I think I'll try just reinstalling vbox, the OS is a file on the desktop, so it should still work
[11:17] <Yerushalmi> Has anybody here ever booted and run their hard drive off an SD/SDHC card, and, if so, did it work out for you?
[11:18] <magnetron> !anyone | Yerushalmi
[11:18] <sp4z> yerushalmi; i have. it was awesome
[11:18] <L4nce0> oh hey, while I'm here.. What's the best / easiest way to get a ubuntu distro with all the programmer tools already set up? ie, has gvim, eclipse, bluefish, all basic editors installed
[11:19] <Pumpkin-> Yerushalmi: works fine, but I don't recommend using it "normally". You don't want to eat all your SD write cycles up by having swap on it for instance.
[11:19] <Yerushalmi> magnetron: My next question (the real one) was already included in that line :P
[11:20] <Yerushalmi> Pumpkin-: but if my swap is on my internal hard disk, having my main drive on the SD card shouldn't be a problem?
[11:20] <magnetron> LA9KSA: make a list of the packages you need and install them with apt-get or so. you can use 'dpkg --get-selections' to construct such a list.
[11:20] <L4nce0_> sorry if you replied to me, network got reset with vbox install
[11:20] <silverarrow> Ubuntu has really come a long since I used it a few years a go
[11:21] <silverarrow> it shows online TV fine, managed by Totem I think
[11:21] <Pumpkin-> Yerushalmi: should be fine + works for me.
[11:21] <L4nce0__> .. sorry, happened again...
[11:22] <syskk> how do I install a 32 bit libnotify on 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:22] <magnetron> LA9KSA: make a list of the packages you need and install them with apt-get or so. you can use 'dpkg --get-selections' to construct such a list.
[11:23] <L4nce0__> yay it works! the vbox application needed to be reinstalled..
[11:23] <Yerushalmi> Pumpkin-: I ask because I'm having major corruption issues, which I suspect is because I'm reaching the read-write cycle limit on the SDHC card, as you just mentioned. I had spent two months when I first got the computer trying (and failing) to teach Linux to use it as a swap file to which to hibernate, so I want to know if my corruption problems are because of that experiment or because of...
[11:23] <Yerushalmi> ...my new (current) configuration where my swap is on the internal drive. In other words, if I buy a new SDHC card and don't try the swap experiment anymore, is this likely to happen again? Or is mine just screwy because I killed itt?
[11:23] <silverarrow> syskk, yes there are something that manages that, something like chrome
[11:24] <silverarrow> how to make totem show DVDs flowing nicely?
[11:24] <silverarrow> it is very jerky now
[11:24] <silverarrow> any idea?
[11:26] <syskk> silverarrow: what do you mean?
[11:26] <greenm0nk> can the alternate iso be installed via a usb? (i see a lot of posts about it asking cdrom during install)
[11:26] <silverarrow> when I stick a DVD film, into the DVD rom and play it in Maverick's default Movie player (totem) it plays very jerky
[11:27] <silverarrow> syskk, I just read about that yesterday somewhere,
[11:28] <silverarrow> this is too dopey for me, I need to get some fresh air
[11:28] <indian_munnda> hi guys, i have a very general career query. Shall i ask it here????
[11:28] <silverarrow> yes?
[11:28] <elderman> greenm0nk, looks like it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[11:29] <indian_munnda> silverarrow: what should i choose in between Linux Admin or .NET Development?
[11:29] <silverarrow> hard to advice really
[11:29] <Pumpkin-> that is about as offtopic as it is going to get here. I also suspect in this channel you will get very biased answers :)
[11:30] <indian_munnda> silverarrow: thats why i came here ,,,,really confused
[11:30] <bazhang> !ot | indian_munnda
[11:30] <silverarrow> lol
[11:30] <indian_munnda> bazhang: sory for that but i am really confuse can u suggest some channel for that
[11:31] <silverarrow> hi bazhang,
[11:31] <bazhang> indian_munnda, #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[11:31] <greenm0nk> indian_munnda: i guess there's no such channel on FreenodeIRC for confused people :P
[11:31] <indian_munnda> greenm0nk: lolzz
[11:31] <silverarrow> bazhang, which DVD player runs more smoothly in Maverick?
[11:31] <silverarrow> Totem is very jerky
[11:32] <shrek> smplayer
[11:32] <silverarrow> I am still impressed by the online TV streaming  very nicely in totem
[11:32] <bazhang> silverarrow, never had an issue, mplayer perhaps
[11:32] <silverarrow> I see
[11:33] <silverarrow> maybe there is some kind of tweake for totem
[11:33] <elderman> greenm0nk, also if you try installing the alternate iso and it works, update the wiki to make it more obvious to people that it's possible.
[11:33] <silverarrow> every thing is rather newly installed here, but I have most of the restricted packages I think
[11:34] <silverarrow> are there extra driver packages particular for totem and hardware DVd/CD rom?
[11:36] <silverarrow> I shall have to come back later, I am fed up with Maverick updates and package adding
[11:36] <silverarrow> I like the Ubuntu manual
[11:37] <Prinler> how does one stop the xserver and drop into just a console?
[11:38] <iflema> Prinler:    sudo service gdm stop    =)
[11:39] <Prinler> thats right
[11:39] <Prinler> iflema,  can ya help me out a min?
[11:39] <Prinler> i think this applies to me http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Analog_Sound_DVI_to_HDMI
[11:39] <Prinler> So im trying to follow it.
[11:39] <k4g6> Prinler: or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:39] <Prinler> I pressed um alt-f2
[11:40] <Prinler> Im now at a console
[11:40] <Prinler> when i attempt to reopen the xserver is says crap about already being open
[11:40] <greenm0nk> elderman: sure. actually i'm helping a friend install linux on his old comp. I'm on ubuntu already :)
[11:41] <Prinler> shoot as soon as i said that it worked lol AFK a min
[11:43] <mousework> what should be done if ##php gives ##overflow??
[11:44] <elderman> greenm0nk, glad to hear it. After reading more carefully, it's not obvious that it will work, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.
[11:44] <Pici> !register | mousework
[11:46] <qianguozheng> ls
[11:46] <qianguozheng> hello
[11:47] <qianguozheng> cat you say
[11:47] <qianguozheng> ?
[11:47] <qianguozheng> no one
[11:47] <k4g6> yes?
[11:47] <iflema> !spoon | qianguozheng
[11:48] <k4g6> !gandfather  iflema
[11:48] <qianguozheng> hah
[11:48] <k4g6> !gandfather | iflema
[11:48] <qianguozheng> where are you
[11:48] <qianguozheng> k4g6
[11:48] <k4g6> i suck at irc
[11:48] <k4g6> haha
[11:48] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[11:48] <qianguozheng> e
[11:48] <qianguozheng> china
[11:48] <qianguozheng> i am in china
[11:48] <greenm0nk> elderman: i found a post on the forums mentioning some instructions on how to skip asking for cdrom
[11:49] <qianguozheng> what a fucking xchar
[11:49] <snowrichard> !language qianguozheng
[11:50] <gnubala> how to measure flops in ubuntu machine? is there any command is there?
[11:50] <Klaus_Dieter> I have a grml 32bit cdrom here and I would like to setup ubuntu server on a machine that is only able to boot from this grml cd. Is that feasible? I know I can install gentoo from it but I am currently lacking some knowledge about the ins and outs of ubuntu. specifically about the bootloader. which one does it use?
[11:50] <Klaus_Dieter> gnubala: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:51] <gnubala> klaus_Dieter: in that where is flops. i cant find it will you tell
[11:51] <BajK> What is the cause for kdm and(!) kde not starting up properly if there is an invalid sdcard (i.e. an empty microsd to sd adapter, adapter plugged in without sd card plugged in)
[11:52] <Klaus_Dieter> sorry its mips in there not flops, my bad
[11:52] <BajK> I just store it plugged into the sd card reader, so I cannot lose it. But whenever it is plugged in without the microsd card (which is in my smartfone) neither kdm starts up automatically nor kde starts up
[11:53] <Klaus_Dieter> gnubala: ^
[11:53] <gnubala> k_D no prob
[11:53] <BajK> so startup takes a bit longer and then I'm just dropped to tty1 shell login with some kernel errors messages sr0 read error or something.
[11:53] <gnubala> klaus_Dieter: any other idea?
[11:53] <BajK> if I log in and to sudo kdm then x starts up but then kde just doesnt start up, it hangs at the first loader icon. as soon as  Iplug out the adapter (and back in directly afterwards) it starts up just fine and works fine then
[11:58] <k4g6> this is the most dead ive seen this channel
[11:58] <ResQue> anyone have any info on controling fan speed on a macbook pro 3,1
[11:58] <k4g6> ResQue: under ubuntu?
[11:58] <ecinx3> how do i find a file?
[11:59] <k4g6> ecinx3: using grep
[11:59] <ResQue> k4g6, yes ubuntu 10.10
[11:59] <ecinx3> grep?
[12:00] <bazz> i've installed a package from source (using apt-get source and then building the .deb).  now update manager keeps telling me there's an update, even though it's the same version i have installed from source.  what to do to get it to stop?
[12:01] <Prinler> sudo ./edid_disable_exts --to-dvi /home/steve/Documents/edid.binsteve /ect/x11/edid.bin
[12:01] <Prinler> ERROR: Input file "/home/steve/Documents/edid.binsteve" could not be opened.
[12:01] <Prinler> #$%^#$%&$
[12:02] <red> gzip -r * > /home/office/redmine.gz || erroring out with: gzip: vendor/rails/actionpack/test/fixtures/layout_tests/layouts/symlinked: Too many levels of symbolic links
[12:02] <iflema> Prinler: /ect/x11  should be /etc/X11...
[12:02] <red> any ideas what to do?
[12:03] <Prinler> sudo ./edid_disable_exts --to-dvi /home/steve/Documents/edid.binsteve /ect/X11/edid.bin
[12:03] <Prinler> ERROR: Input file "/home/steve/Documents/edid.binsteve" could not be opened.
[12:03] <Prinler> LOL
[12:03] <Prinler> better?
[12:03] <FloodBot3> Prinler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <red> prinler: you still have /ect there
[12:04] <koppe> Any good suggestions for recovering/rewrite a MBR I accidentally overwrote?  3 primary and 3 logical partitions...  Really would like know where they each begins and ends...
[12:05] <Gwar_Trolle> Does anyone know a place where I can host a simple HTML file that people can access Directly (like how I can direct link a image hosted on imgur)?
[12:05] <qianguozheng> bvjh
[12:05] <sogeking99> hey guys, i just uninstalled ubuntu and when i restarted it didn't boot into windows, instead i get this "error: unknown file system" grub rescue>"
[12:05] <bazz> Gwar_Trolle: put it in a dropbox Public folder
[12:05] <Prinler> still cant open the file
[12:05] <Prinler> lol
[12:05] <Fuchs> sogeking99: if you have no other operating system than windows, you might want to restore the windows boot loader
[12:05] <sogeking99> what can i do? so much important data too lose
[12:05] <Fuchs> sogeking99: you can do so with an original windows cd and the recovery mode, but better ask in ##windows.
[12:06] <Prinler> why cant it open it?
[12:06] <g0bl1n> where can I copy some new font files to ?
[12:06] <g0bl1n> to make them usable by gVim, etc ?=
[12:06] <g0bl1n> I have them locally already
[12:06] <sogeking99> i dont have my original cd
[12:06] <Fuchs> sogeking99: well, then you can use a ubuntu system to install grub, but grub will need a partition with some files on it
[12:07] <Fuchs> sogeking99: do you have a linux system remaining, or only windows?
[12:07] <Fuchs> sogeking99: of course you can as well boot any live system and backup your windows files.
[12:07] <sogeking99> i only have windows now
[12:07] <g0bl1n> .font folder
[12:08] <Fuchs> sogeking99: then you better ask in ##windows on how to do a fixmbr or similar, depending on the windows version in use.
[12:08] <sogeking99> ok thanks
[12:09] <ManDay> Can I overwrite the medium from which currently run a live version?
[12:09] <sogeking99> can i open ubuntu from live cd and change default boot loader to windows one?
[12:09] <ManDay> I'm suspicious because its mounted RO
[12:10] <Fuchs> sogeking99: no
[12:10] <Fuchs> sogeking99: you need a windows cd in order to put the windows bootloader in the master boot record
[12:10] <silverarrow> hi again
[12:10] <Fuchs> sogeking99: the two alternatives which can be done from an ubuntu CD are written above.  1) backup your files, reinstall  2) install grub, chainload to the windows loader
[12:11] <Fuchs> sogeking99: but restoring the windows bootloader is definitely the recommended version if you only want to run windows. You can contact microsoft in order to get a CD if you have a valid key, but again, better ask in ##windows
[12:11] <sogeking99> how can i install grub?
[12:11] <arand> ManDay: I don't think that would work, no, you can run the liveCD with TORAM=yes if you want to though.
[12:12] <sogeking99> i have my backup disk but its on c:, stupid i know
[12:13] <lillecarl> sogeking99, you cannot reack your windows partition?: P
[12:13] <ManDay> arand: TROAM?
[12:13] <ManDay> oh
[12:13] <ManDay> TO-RAM
[12:13] <ManDay> i see :P
[12:13] <FloodBot3> ManDay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <silverarrow> how stable is Ubuntu? Is it nomal to have the same installation of Ubuntu for like three years as many windows machines do?
[12:13] <lillecarl> hey sogeking99 do you have any external drive?
[12:14] <silverarrow> my machine is not that stable really
[12:14] <sogeking99> lillecar, i dont understand what  you mean?
[12:14] <lillecarl> external storage device
[12:14] <lillecarl> do you have any?
[12:14] <sogeking99> i have a flash drive
[12:14] <lillecarl> on how many GB?
[12:14] <red> how would I run a command to find every .gz file and unpack those to where they reside?
[12:14] <sogeking99> 4gb
[12:15] <red> I think I've made a bobo
[12:15] <iflema> silverarrow: LTS versions are for 3 years on the desktop, 5 4 server, 10.04 is current LTS
[12:15] <lillecarl> okay, well thats ptobably less then your backup files
[12:15] <red> my installation folder structure of redmine has all its filed changed to .gz heh
[12:15] <frogzoo> how to create chapters for a DVD?
[12:15] <red> instead of zipping the damn folder
[12:15] <silverarrow> iflema, I make them crash long before three years
[12:15] <silverarrow> I'm not shore why
[12:16] <bublegum> hello, I have a raid related problems.. can someone help me?
[12:16] <silverarrow> it seems that Ubuntu is much weaker to get compromised by using the off button that abruptly shots down
[12:16] <iceroot> !details | bublegum
[12:16] <sogeking99> yeah should be
[12:17] <silverarrow> iflema, how is your old laptop doing?
[12:18] <mbvpixies78> hi everyone
[12:18] <billmania> Can I make the thumbnail images bigger in the Firefox 3.6 File Upload window bigger?
[12:19] <shal3r> Client is telling me that his server is configured to mirror data on both hard drives. Am i right that it's using only SDA drive? http://pastebin.com/eJ6gtYD8
[12:19] <Norrlanning> Hello people. Anyone that knows how to change the text of mavericks low resolution splash-screen?
[12:19] <jpds> shal3r: Check /proc/mdstat ?
[12:20] <shal3r> # cat /proc/mdstat \ Personalities : \ unused devices: <none>
[12:21] <bublegum> the problem is as follow, I have an HP proliant DL380 G5 server. with 4 harddisk, unknown raid type, that is not booting, it have centos 5.x installed on it. I'm good with Linux but a n00b with raid.
[12:22] <Jonii^> Soon I will install Ubuntu!
[12:22] <Jonii^> Soon I will be free of closed source software!
[12:22] <Jonii^> Bwahahahahahahahahaa
[12:22] <Jonii^> Seriousl though, how do I install ubuntu to my netbook? No CD-drive
[12:23] <magnetron> Jonii^: using a bootable USB drive
[12:24] <Jonii^> Ok.
[12:24] <Hydriz> you can only install using a CD drive...
[12:24] <Jonii^> Next question, how do I write Japanese in Ubuntu?
[12:24] <lillecarl> Hydriz, thats not true
[12:24] <Hydriz> maybe, I am not that sure
[12:24] <lillecarl> you can install operating systems from usb
[12:24] <Hydriz> and Windows too
[12:25] <lillecarl> yeah? :P
[12:25] <Hydriz> installing as a program
[12:25] <Hydriz> maybe
[12:25] <magnetron> Jonii^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[12:25] <stevecam> my right click on my mouse isnt working, is there something i can reset to bring this back to hopefully bring this to functionality
[12:26] <magnetron> stevecam: why isn't it working
[12:26] <lillecarl> stevecam, how often do you hit something with your mouse? ;)
[12:26] <stevecam> its a new mouse, nevermind, it is working now
[12:26] <lillecarl> -.-'
[12:26] <stevecam> i have noticed that ubuntu has some weird and wonderful HID issues
[12:26] <lillecarl> you needed to put it in the usb? ;)
[12:26] <magnetron> Jonii^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[12:28] <magnetron> stevecam: why wasn't it working, and how did you fix it?
[12:28] <iceroot> how to get the groupname for a guid?
[12:29] <sogeking99_> so if i reinstall grub i should besorry lill, client crashed
[12:29] <nathanael> does anyone here know how to configure a wireless card on a headless ubuntu server
[12:29] <magnetron> iceroot: either you use the tool in the Administration menu
[12:29] <iceroot> magnetron: no gui of course
[12:29] <sogeking99_> sorry
[12:29] <sogeking99_> client crashed
[12:29] <iceroot> magnetron: users came from slapd/nscd
[12:30] <magnetron> iceroot: or you just look in /etc/group
[12:30] <mbucket> Anybody here know about the "screen" command? I am trying to reattach a screen but I want the output to pipe to a grep command, something like "screen -r|grep error" and only display lines that contain the string 'error'
[12:30] <iceroot> magnetron: slapd/nscd is not writing to /etc/group
[12:30] <red> using: "find |grep [.]gz|xargs unp" unpacks all found files from subfolders into the folder I ran unp from
[12:30] <red> not where the gzip resides
[12:30] <red> how can I achieve the latter?
[12:30] <magnetron> iceroot: well, we only provide support for ubuntu here
[12:31] <sogeking99_> lill?
[12:31] <red> mbucket: you can run a command in a screen I think
[12:31] <iceroot> magnetron: of course slapd/nscd is a supported way, so if you dont know the answer...
[12:31] <red> not sure
[12:32] <mbucket> red: -X            Execute <cmd> as a screen command in the specified session.
[12:32] <mbucket> red: how would that help me?
[12:32] <iceroot> magnetron: the correct answer was "getent groups" which is also reading nscd/slapd
[12:33] <mbucket> screen -x|grep error
[12:33] <red> mbucket: I think I understood your question wrong then
[12:33] <red> case matters though
[12:34] <mbucket> yeah I know, I just tried "screen -X capt grep error" didn't work :-/
[12:34] <Cradam> hi has anyone booted a wubi install of ubuntu from grub4dos?
[12:35] <magnetron> mbucket: screen is interactive, you can't pipe the buffer content anywhere. but you can either log it to a file or search for it, there's builtin functionality in screen for this
[12:35] <mbucket> oh you are right
[12:35] <kyo> what's the differences between libreoffice and openoffice?  thanks
[12:36] <red> using: "find |grep [.]gz|xargs unp" unpacks all gzip files from subfolders into the folder I ran the find from -- how can I get them extracted in their original folders? There are over 4000 files and few hundred folders so I'd rather not do it by hand.
[12:36] <Cradam> kyo, not a lot if you only need basic functionality
[12:36] <gnomefreak> kyo: not much since OO.o is being phased out as i understand it
[12:36] <magnetron> kyo: currently, not much. except they're developed by different groups with different philosophies
[12:37] <Cradam> i use google docs because it takes ages for me to open a word document any other way
[12:37] <kyo> is libreoffice compatible with ms office better?!
[12:37] <elisa87> how can I install cosmosScope(cscope) in ubuntu?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> kyo: same as oo.o
[12:38] <mioumioule> salut
[12:38] <mioumioule> hello
[12:38] <mioumioule> hi
[12:38] <gnomefreak> kyo: atm the GUI is the only real thing different
[12:38] <mioumioule> suck my ass
[12:38] <mioumioule> ,zkjdzojfdz
[12:38] <mioumioule> caca
[12:38] <magnetron> kyo: libreoffice is same as go-oo.o, those two are both better than oo.o
[12:38] <mioumioule> kiss my ass
[12:38] <mioumioule> yo
[12:38] <DJones> !language | mioumioule
[12:38] <mioumioule> mother
[12:38] <magnetron> kyo: ubuntu is shipped with go-oo.o
[12:39] <kyo> i used iptux today,just like feiq,  good software
[12:40] <sacarlson>  red: seems my compressed files were always relative to where I compressed them.  in my case the compressed tar in my case would have no record of it's real base location
[12:41] <mok0> Hm, when I activate visual effects, I lose the window manager
[12:41] <red> sacarlson: yes I realize that
[12:41] <red> but the fix for that would be to run unp in the directory where the .gz resides in
[12:42] <Cradam> hi has anyone booted a wubi install of ubuntu from grub4dos?
[12:42] <red> the zips are all in the folders where the files are supposed to be
[12:42] <irfan_> hi everybody
[12:42] <irfan_> how can i use wifi on my laptop ?
[12:42] <jrib> mok0: try #compiz if no one here knows
[12:42] <mok0> jrib: thanks will do
[12:42] <irfan_> i'm using ubuntu 10.10
[12:42] <jrib> !wifi | irfan_
[12:42] <red> sacarlson: "find |grep [.]gz|xargs THISDIRECTORY/unp filename.gz"
[12:42] <red> if you get what I mean
[12:43] <red> thisdir \\ currentdir
[12:43]  * gnomefreak thought metacity was replaced with compiz as WM when compiz was enabled
[12:43] <magnetron> mok0: install the "fusion-icon" package, run it and use the icon in the notification area to reload the window manager
[12:43] <irfan_> let me try
[12:43] <irfan_> thnx
[12:43] <red> gnomefreak: it is if you use --replace
[12:43] <sacarlson> red: yes sure if they are already located at there root then I guess you could just uncompress them with no problem
[12:43] <red> sacarlson: thats what I am aiming for -- but how :S
[12:44] <red> i dont want to type and traverse through hundreds of folders
[12:44] <sacarlson> red: I think you might what a script that will cd into the dir then uncompress it if found there
[12:44] <red> i guess
[12:45] <ekt90> anyone have the game megaglest? doesnt seem to work
[12:45] <sacarlson> red: I'm not sure I never played with gz in this way
[12:45] <red> :/
[12:45] <red> thanks anyway
[12:47] <crlcan81> Hello everyone.
[12:47] <blackshirt> hello
[12:48] <histo> hola
[12:48] <crlcan81> Anyone else here running 64 bit 10.10
[12:48] <histo> !anyone | crlcan81
[12:49] <snowrichard> crlcan81, i am when my server is up but i'm backing it up with 32 bit right now
[12:49] <Cradam> can anyone help me boot a wubi install of ubuntu from grub4dos?
[12:50] <elisa87> how do you view the .fsdb files?
[12:50] <t0bis> Bonjour
[12:52] <tobis> Un Chrooter exeperimenté serait il disponible quelques instants ?
[12:52] <bazhang> !fr | tobis
[12:52] <magnetron> !fr | tobis
[12:52] <sogeking99> how long does ubuntu live cd tend to take to boot up first time? been on 10.10 screen with moving dots for a good few minutes now
[12:52] <hanno> Hi there. I've got a problem with the run App on KDE. If i press ALT+F2 and then type it hangs for a few seconds before the keystrokes are accepted. Has anyone had this problem, too? I found two people in the forum sharing the problem, but no solution.
[12:52] <tobis> I looking for someone with knowledge on Chrooting
[12:53] <mok0> magnetron: that did it... after a bit of troubles :-)
[12:53] <mok0> magnetron: thanks
[12:53] <magnetron> mok0: cheers
[12:53] <pankajm> guys any tool to measure page load speed of 100 most popular sites  on a browser
[12:53] <crlcan81> reason I ask if anyone runs that is because I'm trying to do the necessary patching to get g110 running as close to properly as possible. I have super key running fine, as well as media keys, without any kind of special driver. I don't have the onboard audio though, even though I know the g keys won't work as their own.
[12:53] <histo> sogeking99: I've seen it hang on certain video cards. I would check the cd for errors
[12:54] <shal3r> Client is telling me that his server is configured to mirror data on both hard drives. Am i right that it's using only SDA drive? http://pastebin.com/eJ6gtYD8
[12:54] <shal3r> # cat /proc/mdstat \ Personalities : \ unused devices: <none>
[12:55] <crlcan81> I saw on the forums that the libg15 can be patched but it's been compiling weird for those who try and get it patched.
[12:57] <Lcawte> Hi, I keep getting these diamond like blocks with question marks in (assuming its characters with accents etc), is there anything I can install that will stop these?
[12:57] <magnetron> Lcawte: please be more specific
[12:58] <Lcawte> magnetron: not really possible... what else do you want to know?
[12:58] <crlcan81> I think he's talking about missing fonts
[12:58] <koulchilebaiz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCS7_Kgfxto  :D
[12:58] <shane4ubuntu> is there any special way to start ddclient as a daemon?  or is it automagic?  is it in the ddclient.conf file or the way it is started?
[12:58] <bazhang> Lcawte, screenshot please
[12:58] <magnetron> Lcawte: if you can't be more specific then i can't really help you
[12:58] <bazhang> koulchilebaiz, dont paste here
[12:59] <Lcawte> magnetron: I can't be more specific because I don't know whats causing them, it happens in dozens of applications..
[12:59] <crlcan81> you say they're d iamond like boxes.
[12:59] <crlcan81> do you mean they have diamonds inside the boxes where the text should be?
[12:59] <Gwar_Trolle> Does anyone know a place where I can host a simple HTML file that people can access Directly (like how I can direct link a image hosted on imgur)?
[12:59] <magnetron> Lcawte: if you don't know in what applications this happens, or what documents you have opened, then it's a lost cause
[13:00] <magnetron> Gwar_Trolle: any paid web hotel
[13:01] <momeen> hi,i want to install ubunto alternate version i have iso file.i used unetbootin for extraction but there no option there for ubunto alternate version.will any one tell how to extract that.
[13:02] <red> Still looking for a help to achieve a script to go through all subfolders and run unzip for all .gz files found in the folder.
[13:02] <momeen> gor gwar_trolle  you can use webs.com
[13:02] <magnetron> red: a bash script?
[13:02] <shell> im using Lucid 10.04, is there a list of available Ubuntu repositories so I can update sources.list please? I keep getting an error when doing apt-get update W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/jcubic/jcubicppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[13:02] <momeen> for gwar_trolle you can use webs.com
[13:02] <red> magnetron: perhaps, or just xargs
[13:03] <magnetron> red: #bash
[13:03] <red> magnetron: find |grep [.]gz|xargs sudo unp
[13:03] <Gwar_Trolle> momeen: I'm not trying to make a webste, I am just wanting to host a list of links that people can click on
[13:03] <red> this nearly worked but it ran the unp commend from the directory I started the find
[13:03] <red> magnetron: resulting in all the subfolder zips getting unpacked to the root folder I ran the find from
[13:04] <magnetron> red: yes, you've told us countless times
[13:04] <red> guess I'll head over to bash
[13:04] <red> been banging my head on this for a hour to no avail :P
[13:04] <selator> shell: try the main ubuntu server
[13:04] <shell> nevermind, i just removed the broken link files in sources.list.d
[13:04] <shell> i guess they were causing the error
[13:05] <vagner> идите нахуй
[13:05] <bazhang> !ru | vagner
[13:05] <Pumpkin-> red: very ugly, not the most efficient solution, but the one I could think of in 60secs. for X in `find . -type d`; do echo cd $X; echo unp *gz; done
[13:05] <momeen> >	hi,i want to install ubunto alternate version i have iso file.i used unetbootin for extraction but there no option there for ubunto alternate version.will any one tell how to extract that.
[13:05] <Pumpkin-> check that does what you need, then remove the echos to actually do it
[13:06] <crlcan81> Does anyone know how to patch libg15 to get it working for g110 keyboard?
[13:06] <Pumpkin-> (it won't work actaully, but fixing it should be easy) :)
[13:06] <grobda24> Hello. I'm looking for a repository for Blender 2.5 series / test builds. Is there one out there ?
[13:06] <iflema> shane4ubuntu: if you are behind a router and have adminaccess it may have the ability to update address when it starts. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[13:07] <BuggyDE> !details
[13:08] <BuggyDE> Lcawte: are the diamonds with ? overlaid on teh screen?
[13:08] <azizLIGHTS> how do i disable the showing of /etc/motd at beginning in login but instead show it upon launching of bash (so that it shows on every bash creation like when i open a new window for screen)
[13:09] <azizLIGHTS> will this also then show it upon login, technically?
[13:10] <crlcan81> Is there any other way besides liveCD gparted to expand the currently mounted drive, either swap or the entire partition, into freespace?
[13:10] <azizLIGHTS> how do i disable showing of /etc/motd?
[13:11] <ayush_> Does chromeOS use the same flash plugin and skype as for the other GNU based distros like ubuntu? does anyone know?
[13:11] <popey> azizLIGHTS: touch ~/.hushlogin
[13:12] <diegoviola> let's support geohot: http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/02/20/1952250/GeoHot-Asks-For-Donations-To-Fight-Sony
[13:12] <bazhang> !ot | diegoviola
[13:13] <diegoviola> sorry, thanks
[13:13] <zamba> i've got terrible throughput with X forwarding.. does anyone have any idea why?
[13:14] <popey> zamba: have you enabled compression in ssh?
[13:14] <silverarrow> does anyone know lubuntu?
[13:14] <Sulumar> Greetings$
[13:14] <yuskhanzab> is there any software like internet download manager in ubuntu that can detect all file like flv,avi and have trayicon so that file can be easily download from a web browser?
[13:15] <popey> yuskhanzab: downloadthemall is a firefox extension which may help
[13:15] <silverarrow> I have tried the "lubuntu room, but not many there
[13:15] <stianhj> yuskhanzab, there are plugins for firefox that can do that
[13:15] <Chousuke> zamba: X forwarding isn't very efficient to begin with
[13:15] <stianhj> or what popey said
[13:15] <yuskhanzab> how about in chrome?
[13:15] <popey> zamba: use ssh -C to enable compression
[13:15] <bribroder> morning all!
[13:15] <yuskhanzab> i usually use chrome instead firefox
[13:15] <popey> yuskhanzab: dunno about chrome, but have a look for extensions which have keywords like download and video
[13:16] <stianhj> yuskhanzab, just search the chrome extensions
[13:16] <classical> hello ppl :)) I'm going to build dedicated backup server i have two Sata hdd there will be only backup nothing more so what Raid type is bes for me ? im planning to use raid 1 am is it good decision ? an what file system should i use for best performance ?   there will be continuous file writing/copping process so im afraid of hight load/io
[13:16] <popey> classical: i have exactly that setup, and use RAID 1
[13:16] <bribroder> raid 1
[13:17] <popey> classical: even though its only a backup server, I wouldn't want to lose my backups if a disk went phut
[13:17] <zamba> Chousuke: but this is terrible
[13:17] <zamba> popey: ok, i'll try
[13:17] <classical> popey, bribroder what about a file system type ?
[13:18] <Chousuke> zamba: if you have a high-latency link, it's going to be terrible whatever you do
[13:18] <popey> classical: i use ext4 on mine
[13:18] <researcher1> is there anybody who has HP LKaser Jet 1020  printer right plug-in installed ?
[13:18] <Chousuke> zamba: AFAIK the biggest problem with X isn't bandwidth, but the sheer number of roundtrips it requires
[13:18] <Chousuke> zamba: compression isn't going to help much with that :/
[13:19] <zamba> Chousuke: got a better alternative?
[13:19] <Chousuke> zamba: you might try using NX or something else more efficient than plain X forwarding.
[13:19] <zamba> Chousuke: NX is b0rked in ubuntu lucid
[13:19] <BuggyDE> classical: I think best file system would depend on what type and size of files you will backup onto it
[13:19] <zamba> Chousuke: using neatx-server
[13:19] <Chousuke> zamba: then you need to install a less borked version :) or try vnc.
[13:20] <popey> vnc over compressed ssh isnt bad
[13:20] <popey> not great
[13:20] <classical> BuggyDE, hdd's will be 1tb in size
[13:20] <popey> classical: same as mine :)
[13:20] <popey> classical: i use LVM on top of RAID 1
[13:20] <BuggyDE> how about opennx
[13:20] <classical> maybe xfs ?
[13:20] <BuggyDE> worked last time i tried it
[13:20] <mi_> hi
[13:21] <snowrichard> had trouble rebooting to the external drive...the previous kernel worked finally
[13:21] <classical> popey, what is the file system ? :)
[13:21] <lillecarl> SSH TERM = WIN :)
[13:21] <snowrichard> it could not mount root file system
[13:21] <BuggyDE> i would use riserfs for files over 2gb in size and ext4 for anything less
[13:21] <popey> classical: I use ext4
[13:22] <lillecarl> ext4 is still unstable
[13:22] <lillecarl> ext3 (Y)
[13:22] <jefelex> I still always use EXT3
[13:22] <BuggyDE> yeah i have had some issues with ext4 but nothing too serious
[13:22] <nisstyre> jfs > *
[13:22] <lillecarl> jefelex, thats good :)
[13:23] <jefelex> never had a problem with EXT3, why bother with EXT4 - doesn't look like it has any advantages
[13:24] <nisstyre> jefelex, it does have advantages but not for the home user
[13:24] <rcmaehl> I haven't had any problems with ext4
[13:24] <sipior> this is not a filesystem advocacy channel, to my recollection.
[13:24] <jefelex> no - I only just joined the channel, so I've got some catching up to do - don't mind my ignorance!! :-)
[13:25] <ConstantineXVI> is there by chance anything on ubuntu that can scan your music and spit out itunes's library.xml file?
[13:25] <monkeyD> hey guys, I have a SIS 661 VGA device and I did the glxgears test and it workes, but my desktopeffects dont work, I mean I cant activate them, ubuntu looks for VGA driver but it doesnt activate the desktopeffects
[13:25] <jefelex> I haven't seen one, but there probably is an Itunes adapter program somewhere
[13:27] <soreau> monkeyD: You wont be able to run compiz on SiS. glxgears means absolutely nothing
[13:28] <monkeyD> soreau: so there is no solution ?
[13:28] <soreau> monkeyD: My advice would be to get a Radeon card
[13:28] <Lint01> soreau, it's funny as sis cards can run games like WoW
[13:28] <soreau> Lint01: Does it support TFP?
[13:29] <monkeyD> soreau: I dont have the mondey
[13:29] <monkeyD> but what I want to know
[13:29] <monkeyD> I heared that the linux kernel is so flexibel and so great
[13:29] <soreau> monkeyD: Lint01: The driver must support GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap in order for compiz to work
[13:30] <soreau> Check the output of glxinfo
[13:31] <monkeyD> soreau: what sould I looking for in the glxinfo ?
[13:31] <soreau> monkeyD: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[13:31] <soreau> monkeyD: The linux kernel is flexible and great but it still cant make hardware perform miracles
[13:32] <soreau> SiS cards are simply not compiz-capable. VIA is the very lowlyest card I know that can run compiz
[13:34] <need> k
[13:34] <monkeyD> soreau: I mean thats just simple openGL work that the card have to do, dont understand why it has such a lot of problems or why there is not a alternative effekt
[13:35] <HHH> LOL
[13:35] <soreau> monkeyD: As I said, the driver must provide GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension for compiz to work
[13:36] <HHH> There is an alternative also for this driver
[13:36] <soreau> HHH: What driver?
[13:36] <HHH> all
[13:37] <thrope> i have a problem where my left alt key doesnt seem to work, but right alt works fine... I find the layout options a bit confusing - is there anything there that is likely to fix this
[13:37] <thrope> xev seems to show Alt_L and Alt_R correctly so I'm not sure why it isnt working
[13:37] <magnetron> thrope: which layout are you using
[13:37] <monkeyD> even if there is an alternnative HHH
[13:37] <HHH> this must be laptop ?
[13:37] <monkeyD> will it work with compiz ?
[13:37] <thrope> magnetron: United Kingdom
[13:38] <thrope> i am connecting through NX actually as well - but I dont think thats the issue because xev shows Alt_L correctly
[13:38] <soreau> thrope: Make sure to look at all the options http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28017/Fix_your_right_Alt_key_in_Ubuntu
[13:39] <thrope> soreau: I saaw that and I've tried 3rd level on and off for both left and right alt
[13:39] <soreau> thrope: You can also test if your wm has anything to do with it by trying a different one
[13:39] <thrope> it doesnt seem to change the behaviour
[13:39] <nightgoblin> thrope i have the opposite (using UK keyboard) R-ALT doesn't work, but L_ALT works fine - LOL
[13:39] <thrope> mainly want to use it for switching tabs in terminal
[13:39] <thrope> also no idea what '3rd lvel' is
[13:39] <soreau> thrope: Make sure USA layout is selected or whatever for your board
[13:39] <monkeyD> HHH: so what ?^^
[13:40] <magnetron> thrope: 3rd level is the level you access with the AltGr key
[13:40] <magnetron> thrope: also, which UK keyboard layout are you using
[13:40] <thrope> generic 105 key
[13:40] <magnetron> thrope: that's the keyboard type
[13:40] <histo> thrope: unless something else is bound to the left alt
[13:40] <magnetron> thrope: which keymap are you using?
[13:40] <histo> thrope: might be throwing a wrench in the works
[13:40] <thrope> histo: any way to find out
[13:41] <dhanesh> how can i check for bad sector in ubuntu
[13:41] <xxx> is bash_history broke in 10.10?
[13:41] <thrope> magnetron: how do I find out? in keyboard prefs I have UNited Kingdom, generic 105 key (intl) pc
[13:41] <Lint01> thrope, third level is altgr
[13:41] <soreau> thrope: Also, check this: gnome-keybinding-properties  <-- not in gui menu IIRC
[13:41] <xxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842086 <- in 10.10 install, is bash_history broken?
[13:41] <thrope> ok - but anyway what ever I do to third level settings doesnt seem to make any difference
[13:41] <magnetron> thrope: what do you mean "intl"
[13:42] <thrope> oh wait no its started working
[13:42] <dhanesh> how can i check for bad sector in ubuntu?
[13:42] <jrib> xxx: why do you ask?  Why do you think it is broken?
[13:42] <soreau> thrope: gnome-keyboard-properties should show you the layout while -keybindings- will show you what key is bound to what
[13:42] <thrope> I switched third level to right win... didnt seem to change at first but now it is working
[13:42] <xxx> jrib: what are you asking me that question? It is a simple question, if you are confused, let me know about which part
[13:42] <thrope> oh no its stopped again
[13:43] <magnetron> thrope: /wc
[13:43] <sipior> xxx: mind your manners. the answer to your question is "no." does that satisfy you?
[13:43] <jrib> xxx: I'm confused because you link to a forum post from 3 years ago, so I'm not sure what is not working for you.  Can you say exactly what you are running/pressing, what you expected to happen, and what did happen?
[13:43] <monkeyD> soreau: so there is not a lite version or lite settings for compiz ?
[13:44] <xxx> sipior: so a default install should have session history saving working out of the box so to speak?
[13:44] <sipior> xxx: try it and let us know.
[13:44] <soreau> monkeyD: There is simple-ccsm for light settings but that will do nothing without compiz actually running. There is no light compiz
[13:44] <xxx> jrib: ls ~/.bash_history , expect: the file, got: no file, push up, get history from last session, got: nothing from last session
[13:44] <soreau> monkeyD: Your driver needs TFP
[13:44] <xxx> jrib: to be honest how cuold what I post affect the question? I say 2010 on the forum post date
[13:44] <xxx> *saw
[13:45] <xxx> sipior: are you being pedantic and have no idea?
[13:45] <monkeyD> soreau: sounds physical not software based
[13:45] <xxx> sipior: because you'd look very silly if you are
[13:45] <soreau> monkeyD: Yes, the driver doesnt support TFP because the hardware cannot do it
[13:45] <thrope> xxx: there is no problem with bash history on my 10.10 machines, both new install and upgrade
[13:45] <sipior> xxx: i'm saying it's easy enough for you to check this for yourself, and have no great desire to waste my time so that you may spare yours.
[13:45] <xxx> sipior: try it and let you know? no, I am asking if there is a known issue with bash_history, what is your problem exactly?
[13:45] <xxx> sipior: what is your problem with the question I am asking?
[13:45] <jrib> xxx: ok, let's ignore the forum post.  How did you install ubuntu? What did you do since install?  What packages did you install or remove since install?  Create a fresh new user, does the issue persist?
[13:46] <jrib> xxx: bash history should work by default.  This is what sipior was telling you
[13:46] <xxx> sipior: I am not wasting your time, in fact I most definitely want you to ignore everything I say from now on
[13:46] <sipior> xxx: easily done.
[13:46] <thrope> xxx: I would check permissions on your home dir
[13:46] <xxx> jrib: there are no known issues, sipior: good, because it has been hard for you until now
[13:46] <xxx> thanks thrope
[13:46] <xxx> no idea how a clean install can end up with no bash_history...
[13:47] <jrib> xxx: what do you mean by "there are no known issues?  Are you replying to one of my questions?  Which one?
[13:47] <xxx> jrib: just a clean install, installed emacs and build one package, then closed window, opened another, and wanted to grab something from history
[13:47] <monkeyD> soreau: I had xp before ubuntu and I had some desktop effects here with 3d effects like the desktop box and stuff like that, thats why its hard to belive that there is not another solution :(
[13:47] <thrope> xxx: hae you tried set -o history
[13:47] <thrope> maybe it is turnd off somewhere
[13:47] <xxx> jrib: only the parts with jrib: in front are for you
[13:48] <soreau> monkeyD: compiz does not run on windows. You must have a driver that supports TFP and obviously a card that can do it in the first place
[13:48] <xxx> thrope: yeah, I will try that, the problem is - next time I fresh install, do some stuff, I don't want to find out when I want the history that it stopped working
[13:48] <soreau> monkeyD: Whatever windows had was not compiz and it didnt require this opengl specification
[13:48] <soreau> monkeyD: Well actually its a driver spec but anyway
[13:50] <soreau> monkeyD: Its an opengl driver extension specification and SiS just cant do it
[13:50] <jrib> xxx: note that if you want to continue to troubleshoot, be sure to create the fresh new user using "adduser" (so that /etc/skel/ gets copied)
[13:50] <monkeyD> soreau: there are 3d porgramms like blender on other opensource stuff, I can use them and do fancy realtime things with it
[13:51] <sipior> i'm going to miss him.
[13:51] <jrib> ...
[13:51] <soreau> monkeyD: That doesnt mean anything. Just because you have direct rendering doesnt mean the card can do TFP all of the sudden
[13:51] <lillecarl> 1
[13:51] <sogeking99> how can i reinstall grub from boot disk?
[13:52] <thrope> so with my left alt key
[13:52] <ikonia> !grub2 > sogeking99
[13:52] <thrope> a difference between left and right in xev... right alt gives KerPress when I press and KeyRelease when I release (working correctly)
[13:52] <thrope> left alt gives Press and Release immediately
[13:52] <soreau> monkeyD: It is a special spec, written by davidr, the original compiz creator, with the help of some nvidia devs, specifically for compiz http://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/EXT/texture_from_pixmap.txt
[13:53] <thrope> so thats why its not working with chords
[13:53] <thrope> but any idea why that is?]
[13:53] <monkeyD> soreau: do you know Xcompmgr ?
[13:53] <soreau> monkeyD: no
[13:53] <soreau> monkeyD: The only thing you might be able to use is Xgl, that was also written by david reveman as an X replacement, before TFP got into the drivers
[13:54] <imi> hi
[13:54] <monkeyD> soreau: got a link with a tutorial ?
[13:54] <soreau> monkeyD: But Xgl is out of date and no longer maintained. The last version of ubuntu that shipped it was hardy or intrepid I believe
[13:55] <soreau> monkeyD: I dont even know if its possible since Xgl does some of the same things that TFP does
[13:55] <lucklessprinter> hi, I am having difficulty connecting to an lpa printer with ubuntu. I am pretty certain I have the settings correct but the jobs do not get sent to the print queue. is there anything I am overlooking? thanks
[13:55] <soreau> monkeyD: But I highly doubt it would work in the first place
[13:55] <imi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AnonymizingNetworkMACAddresses -- this howto doesn't work for me under lucid
[13:55] <GeekMan> what is processor scaling?
[13:56] <jrib> GeekMan: your processor can go faster or slower (to save energy)
[13:56] <GeekMan> k
[13:56] <monkeyD> soreau: I noticed some flikery and some crispy noise on my screen since I installed ubuntu
[13:57] <sipior> imi: it will be easier if you mention which parts didn't work, and (most important) how they failed.
[13:57] <TheKoksi> I need help here..
[13:57] <soreau> monkeyD: Could be related to the graphics driver. You can get a compiz-capable gpu nowadays for under 20 bucks. Any radeon or nvidia made in the past decade should work
[13:57]  * TheKoksi Can someone help me, I need to connect on the Undernet
[13:58] <soreau> TheKoksi: /connect irc.undernet.org? Or ask in #freenode
[13:58] <monkeyD> soreai: or I use Xubuntu: it looks like its a gnome thing
[13:59] <soreau> monkeyD: what?
[13:59]  * TheKoksi it says: [14:59] [481] Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator
[13:59] <imi> sipior: it doesn't work for my wlan0; the script created in this howto haven't invoked for wlan0
[13:59] <lucklessprinter> hi, I am having difficulty connecting to an lpa printer with ubuntu. I am pretty certain I have the settings correct but the jobs do not get sent to the print queue. is there anything I am overlooking? thanks
[13:59] <soreau> TheKoksi: /j #freenode
[14:00] <klj613-> how do i get a list of my unmounted devices? (or all of them)
[14:00] <imi> sometimes it gets invoked for lo, sometimes doesn't but It hasnt ever invoked for wlan0
[14:00] <AbhijiT> gdesklets giving error Could not import tiling module! and then hangs trying to connect to daemon
[14:00] <soreau> lucklessprinter: Can you check the output of lpinfo ?
[14:00] <sogeking99> i cant figure out how to install grub from knopix boot
[14:00] <AbhijiT> jhelp
[14:00] <sogeking99> so i can then boot into windows
[14:00] <monkeyD> soreau: dont you think I get a clear and clean screen if use kde ?
[14:01] <soreau> monkeyD: I have no idea but your wasting time if you are trying to get compiz going on that card
[14:01] <Fuchs> well, he definitely could use kwin effects
[14:02] <Fuchs> if it is just for the sake of having effects
[14:02] <soreau> Why woud anyone want to use that krap? ;)
[14:02] <AbhijiT> help
[14:02] <AbhijiT> gdesklets giving error Could not import tiling module! and then hangs trying to connect to daemon
[14:02] <stpnicks> How can I find what old versions of an app are available? apt-cache show says there's only one, sources.list includes universe and multiverse entries, but I need a version not listed...
[14:03] <Jameees> so I've been using ubuntu (installed with wubi) for a while now and I've decided to install a fresh copy of ubuntu on a different hdd on it's own partition. And now when I boot into the fresh installation of ubuntu my internet isn't working any idea why ?
[14:03] <soreau> monkeyD: Fuchs is right though, there are other compositors that may work that do not require TFP to work. Even metacity has a compositing option
[14:03] <Jameees> It was working fine on the wubi instllation
[14:04] <monkeyD> soreau: I thought that kde needs less so I dont get this artifacts on my screen wihtout compiz, and I am using docky and I get a very black plane where is it and it all the time say that it need compiz
[14:04] <soreau> Jameees: How do you connect to the internet physically?
[14:04] <sogeking99> anyone know how i can reinstall grub?
[14:04] <jrib> stpnicks: what application?  What version?  Why?
[14:04] <Jameees> soreau, modem ethernet cable plugged into the back of the computer
[14:04] <soreau> monkeyD: Yea, compiz makes the linuz desktop work better :)
[14:04] <Jameees> not wireless
[14:04] <jrib> !grub | sogeking99
[14:05] <soreau> Jameees: Does ifconfig show your eth0 interface?
[14:05] <thrope> any idea why left alt would give an immediate keyrelease (exactly the same timestamp as the keypress)
[14:05] <Jameees> yes, it just doesn't connect
[14:05] <soreau> thrope: Maybe try #xorg
[14:05] <monkeyD> soreau: so what about metacity
[14:05] <jrib> thrope: ruled out hardware issue?
[14:06] <soreau> Jameees: Does ifconfig show that eth0 has an ip address?
[14:06] <stpnicks> jrib: librspec-ruby1.8, something compatible w 1.2.3, because of errors on some (~20%) tests because of version differences
[14:06] <soreau> monkeyD: Look in gconf-editor>apps>metacity and I believe there is a compositing bool you can set
[14:06] <soreau> monkeyD: But its nothing like compiz, it basically just puts shadows on the windows
[14:06] <monkeyD> soreau: with 3d effects ?:)
[14:07] <sogeking99> what i need is a way to install grub from a live cd(knoppix) so i can then boot windows
[14:07] <researcher1> whats the meaning of this http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=6fd2d077ba&view=att&th=12e47d4783ce9efa&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_gkf9fjni0&zw  my command line interface work well with internet
[14:07] <soreau> sogeking99: What does that have to do with ubuntu?
[14:07] <monkeyD> metacity has 3d effects soreau ?
[14:07] <jrib> sogeking99: read the link ubottu gave you and you can reinstall grub from the ubuntu cd
[14:08] <soreau> monkeyD: It has a compositing feature. You can call it 3D or whatever you want but there is no cube
[14:08] <krov> hi, can anyone tell me where i could find a driver for a cdma 1x mg880
[14:08] <sogeking99> i had ubuntu cd but it wouldn't start up
[14:08] <jrib> stpnicks: you won't find it in the official repositories.  You would usually only find the original universe package and then the -updates and -security versions.  Not sure what your best bet is for getting 1.2.3 of librspec-ruby1.8.  Are you sure it won't break other things?
[14:08] <soreau> monkeyD: kde has kwin that can run their version of the cube using xrender or opengl but its no compiz
[14:10] <krov> or could you please tell me how to configure it?
[14:10] <stpnicks> jrib: I'd hoped multiverse would have more, but looks like you're right.  I don't have anything else it could break :)  Sorry news if I have to downgrade Ubuntu to get compatible RSpec install!
[14:10] <dr_willis> krov,  what is that thing anyway?
[14:10] <AbhijiT> gdesklets giving error Could not import tiling module! and then hangs trying to connect to daemon
[14:11] <jrib> stpnicks: well you could grab an old package source and then build it on maverick (your other option is to look for a ppa, but I doubt this will prove fruitful)
[14:11] <dr_willis> AbhijiT,  last  i looked gdesklets was rather out of date. and it was rather flakey when it was being worked on.
[14:11] <krov> dr_willis: it is some kind of modem
[14:11] <AbhijiT> dr_willis, okay
[14:11] <krov> looks like a flash disk
[14:12] <dr_willis> the whole idea of 'widgits on the desktop' is getting to be a thing of the past. :)
[14:12] <Jameees> soreau: sorry, closed the client accidentally. eth0 shows an inet6 address, I'm guessing that's ipv6 ? I shouldn't have ipv6
[14:12] <MOSMarauder> Problem after WUBI Installation and frist reboot. Ubuntu cannot complete the Install/Config after 1st reboot. Error MSG: No root defined, use Partiton tool to correct.  root.disk and swap.disk are in place where they have to be
[14:12] <sogeking99> no one?
[14:13] <soreau> Jameees: I mean for example, 192.168.x.x ip address in the output of ifconfig eht0
[14:13] <soreau> eth0*
[14:13] <avashi1> someone please heelp
[14:13] <jrib> stpnicks: there's 1.1.3 in karmic and 1.2.9 in lucid.  If you really need 1.2.3, then you'd have to do some extra work (I can link you to a tutorial if you want to do that).  If one of those two version in karmic and lucid suffice, then grab the source package and build it for maverick.  In any case, you become responsible for maintaining the package on your machine
[14:13] <Pici> avashi1: You need to ask a question first.
[14:13] <g_0_0> !grup | sogeking99
[14:13] <avashi1> I just installed cisco vpn client for linux but it does not show up under applications
[14:13] <GeekMan> can some one help me with this cpu scaling section found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues
[14:13] <g_0_0> !grub | sogeking99
[14:13] <andai> how do i migrate to 32bit ubuntu
[14:13] <Jameees> soreau: no, no ip address
[14:13] <andai> can i do it without reinstalling everything
[14:14] <soreau> Jameees: If it doesnt have an ip address, you have to set one then point the route and set the default gateway and nameserver. What is the ip of the router you are connected to?
[14:14] <dr_willis> andai,  clarify what you have now..
[14:14] <jrib> stpnicks: isn't it possible to update your code to the later version as well?  Don't you want to do that eventually anyway? (no idea what the specifics are about what you are doing)
[14:14] <andai> dr_willis: Maverick x64
[14:14] <andai> dr_willis: minecraft not working, lol
[14:15] <andai> want.
[14:15] <Jameees> soreau: I don't have a router, I'm using the modem that the ISP gave me, when I installed ubuntu with wubi, or when i did fresh installation of windows I didn't have to enter any address or install anything it worked by 'default'
[14:15] <soreau> Jameees: Well we need to know the internal ip of that modem
[14:15] <Fuchs> 1) minecraft definitely works on x64  2) yes, you would need a complete reinstall
[14:15] <a_> elo
[14:15] <GeekMan> i dont under stand what they mean in this . Edit /etc/init.d/ondemand and replace ondemand by userspace
[14:15] <a_> jest tam ktoś?
[14:15] <a_> ;>
[14:15] <andai> Fuchs: Minecraft LOADS to 100% then i see black and hear nothing too
[14:15] <stpnicks> jrib: the 1.2.* should work, looks like that's in Karmic and Lucid.  Yup, do want to upgrade the frozen versions, but that's a later task.
[14:15] <Jameees> soreau: why did the wubi installation detect it automatically ?
[14:16] <Fuchs> andai: are you sure that the problem is the architecture, and do you have any messages on the console when you launch it?
[14:16] <soreau> Jameees: It may have peeked at your windows config and used it
[14:16] <avashi1> please help.. I just installed cisco vpn client for linux but it does not show under Applications or Accessories.. where do I find it ?
[14:16] <andai> Fuchs: Web client, free
[14:16] <andai> Fuchs: no messages
[14:16] <andai> no idea what's wrong
[14:16] <Jameees> soreau: address of the modem is 192.168.100.1
[14:16] <soreau> Jameees: If you can just get the internal ip of the router I can tell you how to make it work
[14:17] <Fuchs> andai: then I would test a live system first before switching architecture
[14:17] <soreau> Jameees: This should get you going: sudo route del default && sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.101 && sudo route add route add default gw 192.168.100.1
[14:17] <soreau> Jameees: Also you need to put this in /etc/resolv.conf:   nameserver 192.168.100.1
[14:17] <berefeira> anyone using miredo?
[14:19] <jefelex> gotta go - bye! :-)
[14:19] <MOSMarauder> hm nobody ? (WUBI)
[14:19] <MOSMarauder> ?
[14:19] <GeekMan> can some one help me with this cpu scaling section found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues
[14:19] <fabio333> a question about my sis 740 gpu....
[14:19] <a_> jest ktoś?
[14:19] <a_> he
[14:19] <AbhijiT> !ask | fabio333
[14:19] <fabio333> wat about te 3d support?
[14:19] <bartek> ja
[14:19] <a_> dobre to jest
[14:19] <a_> ;f
[14:19] <avashi1> can some one please help.. I installed cisco vpn client but it doesn't show up anywhere.. where do i find it ?
[14:20] <bartek> nie no co ty
[14:20] <bartek> wydaje ci sie
[14:20] <bartek> nie
[14:20] <a_> no co ja "
[14:20] <a_> ?
[14:20] <bartek> nie ijei
[14:20] <a_> ;df
[14:20] <FloodBot3> bartek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <bartek> nie
[14:20] <a_> ;d
[14:20] <bartek> nie
[14:20] <FloodBot3> a_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <a_> ej oni coś po ang piszą do nas
[14:20] <bartek> ten bot jest denerwujacy
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[14:20] <loxs> what package installs add-apt-repository?
[14:21] <bartek> helo!
[14:21] <a_> fucking shit!!
[14:21] <DJones> !labguage | a_
[14:21] <bartek> wtf?
[14:21] <DJones> !language | a_
[14:21] <soreau> ! language | bartek
[14:21] <stpnicks> jrib: thanks for the feedback!
[14:21] <Pici> loxs: python-software-properties
[14:21] <Roasted> why is sandisk so fail with rhythmbox. I have about 1,000 songs on it. but rhythmbox is telling me I have.. uh... 6. SIX.
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:22] <Jameees> soreau: ok, i'll reboot and try it, thanks
[14:22] <a_> ello
[14:22] <soreau> Jameees: no
[14:22] <soreau> Jameees: No need to reboot
[14:22] <dr_willis> andai,  You may want to be sure you are using the SUN java. not the icedtea java.
[14:22] <Jameees> soreau: i do, i'm on windows at the moment
[14:22] <soreau> Jameees: Unless you arent running ubuntu currently :)
[14:22] <Jameees> on the same box
[14:22] <dr_willis> andai,  other thenn that.. no idea. I dont play the game.
[14:22] <dr_willis> bbl.
[14:22] <soreau> (carry on)
[14:22] <andai> dr_willis: slap
[14:22] <andai> yeah
[14:22] <andai> im switching to sun
[14:23] <fabio333> best driver for the sis 740?
[14:26] <fjorgynn> Hi
[14:26] <Roasted> why does rhythmbox suck with sandisk
[14:26] <fabio333>  sandisk suck maybe
[14:27] <GeekMan> can some one help me with this cpu scaling section found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues
[14:27] <fabio333> is it  mtp device?
[14:27] <Roasted> No. It's MCP, because Ubuntu won't mount it if its in MTP mode.
[14:27] <Roasted> Or autodetect for that matter.
[14:28] <alienkid10> I was directed to uninstall Network Manager while troubleshooting network issues how do I get it back now? I reinstalled it but it's icon doesn't appear
[14:28] <Roasted> alienkid10, is it as part of startup programs?
[14:28] <karlo94> which antivirus for linux do you people recommend ? (I know I do not need it for linux but I wanna scan my usb and else..)
[14:28] <sachael> is there a grub option to disable the ubuntu splash at startup? It's not booting and I need to find out why. Possibly it's the nvidia driver I uninstalled, what's the package called?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> GeekMan, a good app to ctrl cpu usage and settings , cpufrequtils
[14:28] <alienkid10> Roasted: don't think so how do I add it back in?
[14:28] <Fuchs> alienkid10: look whether nm-applet is running, if it isn't: start it
[14:28] <Fuchs> alienkid10: if that solves it: add it to your autostart
[14:28] <GeekMan> have you tried adding the netwrk manger indicator back on your task bar
[14:29] <Roasted> alienkid10, check out system - preferences - startup applications, see if netowrk manager is listed there and checked
[14:29] <Jameees> soreau: when I enter your command it asys SYOCALRT: No such process
[14:29] <Jameees> or something like that
[14:29] <alienkid10> Roasted: it's listed so i just run nm-applet in alt-f2 and it should come back?
[14:29] <Roasted> alienkid10, are you asking or telling?
[14:29] <Jameees> also I'm unable to access the 192.168.100.1 page in ubuntu, but i can in windows
[14:29] <soreau> Jameees: No problem. After you are done, you should be able to ping 192.168.100.1 and google.com
[14:30] <alienkid10> Roasted: asking
[14:30] <GeekMan> idk if that works the known issues page says powernowd is the only thing they think works
[14:30] <erUSUL> sachael: remove splash and quiet from kernel command line in the grub menu
[14:30] <Jameees> soreau, I can't
[14:30] <Roasted> alienkid10, I forget the exact entry to get it back - but give it a shot and see if it launches
[14:30] <erUSUL> sachael: press e to edit in grub menu
[14:30] <Jameees> I read something on the forums about disabling ipv6 or something
[14:30] <alienkid10> nm-applet is now running but no icon
[14:31] <GeekMan> but it tells me if i want it to be permenant to follow their instruction but i dont understand what they mean when they say . Edit /etc/init.d/ondemand and replace ondemand by userspace
[14:31] <Fuchs> alienkid10: maybe the systray is missing from your panel, try to re-add it
[14:31] <IdleOne> alienkid10: right click on the panel and add Indicator Applet, that should put it back on the panel.
[14:31] <soreau> Jameees: This should get you going: sudo route del default && sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.101 && sudo route add route add default gw 192.168.100.1 && echo "nameserver 192.168.100.1" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[14:32] <alienkid10> IdleOne: indicator applet is there already Banshee's icon is sitting in it
[14:32] <soreau> Jameees: If not, try using network manager with ip=192.168.100.101, mask=255.255.255.0 and gateway 192.168.100.1
[14:32] <printerwoes> hi, I have a lpd printer on a windows print server (comp-pr-1b) and am having great difficulty connecting to it. I can send jobs to it but they are not received, so when I log on to the printer (using my windows active directory credentials) no print jobs appear. any ideas?
[14:33] <adds666> Can anyone help with lack of sound issues?
[14:33] <alienkid10> I'll try relogging in. Then I've got another odd issue be back in a sec
[14:33] <IdleOne> alienkid10: err NetworkManager Applet
[14:34] <claint> hi, I have a quick question to anyone with 64-bit Ubuntu. A wiki page somewhere tells that 64-bit sun-java6-jre package does not provide /usr/bin/javaws. I am suspecting this to be false, as I have it in my 64-bit Debian. Can anyone check and confirm this so I can fix this suspectingly false information?
[14:34] <soreau> printerwoes: Does lpinfo show anything useful?
[14:35] <IdleOne> panel applets don't seem to have a naming scheme. least no easy way to know what includes what.
[14:35] <GeekMan> nvm LMAO Its working
[14:35] <gaire> !ciao
[14:35] <GeekMan> >_<
[14:35] <gaire> \list
[14:36] <BluesKaj> GeekMan, sudo /usr/bin/cpufreq-set -g ondemand or performance , either one but not both
[14:36] <GeekMan> thanks
[14:36] <printerwoes> soreu lpinfo shows nothing
[14:37] <GeekMan> what does on demand mean like auto scaling
[14:37] <KREDO> !wine
[14:37] <soreau> printerwoes: How does the printer connect to the machine?
[14:37] <printerwoes> soreu via the network
[14:37] <GeekMan> is wine (windows is not emulator) lol
[14:37] <soreau> printerwoes: Can you see it in the cups config browser page?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> !who | GeekMan
[14:37] <printerwoes> soreu what is that?
[14:38] <GeekMan> blueskaj ok
[14:38] <soreau> printerwoes: Oh well maybe you just need to address the ip of the printer
[14:39] <GeekMan> blueskaj: what does ondemand do
[14:39] <BluesKaj> GeekMan, ondemand is exactly as it says , when the cpu requires a faster speed to handle the load it ramps up it's performance to fit the need
[14:39] <Camarata> I rebooted Ubuntu and it just boots to command line.. no GUI.. help?
[14:39] <printerwoes> soreau, 1 sec, i am looking in the browser page
[14:39] <GeekMan> k
[14:39] <alienkid10> nope still not there
[14:39] <GeekMan> blueskaj thanks
[14:39] <adds666> Where is the best place to ask about some issues I have with my sound?
[14:39] <printerwoes> soreau, the printer itself has no IP, I am connecting to the pcounter queue on the print server, which the printer I log in to pulls the data from
[14:40] <alienkid10> nm-applet it running though
[14:40] <printerwoes> soreau, the way they work is that doc is sent to the pcounter queue, and then whichever printer you log in to pulls it from there
[14:40] <AbhijiT> adds666, now ask here it not solved then ask on ubuntuforums.org and askubuntu.com
[14:40] <BluesKaj> GeekMan, if you have dual core cpu or more then ondemand is ideal , you'll never notice the difference between on demand and performance
[14:40] <soreau> printerwoes: Well I hope you figure it out because that is really beyond my area of expertise
[14:41] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: remember my network problems? I fixed them with a simple power off unplug then wait 30 seconds replug and boot back up. Now I'm trying to get Network Manager's icon to come back
[14:41] <printerwoes> soreau, mine too lol!
[14:41] <g_0_0> alienkid10, have you tried resetting your panel?
[14:41] <GeekMan> blueskaj : what about ppc
[14:41] <GeekMan> blueskaj : g4
[14:41] <g_0_0> !resetpanels | alienkid10
[14:42] <dr_willis> GeekMan,  last i tried PPC linux.. it was rather lacking compared to the others.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, glad to hear it
[14:42] <ph88> [About C++] i'm trying to use a variable to indicate a the member of a struct. Like this:  struct.variable. Where i change the name of variable in a loop. But it gives me error: variable is not a member.
[14:42] <Osmodivs> My system is so messed up that im am gonna do a fresh install of 10.10, but I dont want to start all over again, In the past months I have downloaded tons of software and libs from Synaptic, Is there a way to keep all of this stuff and then install them in the new fresh install?
[14:42] <alienkid10> g_0_0: have not
[14:42] <GeekMan> i got it running really good on my ibook g4 10.04 LTS
[14:42] <andai> dr_willis: Okay, minecraft server is down for me, but i'm trying it out on another 3D game that used to not-work and it does now! Except... no sound now.
[14:42] <alienkid10> g_0_0: would have thought relogging would have done it
[14:42] <adds666> My Toshiba Satellite P100-429 does not play sound. The only way I can get it to play sound is to change ACPI=off however this obviously disables the power management and many a time ive lost work because I havent noticed the power cable was unplugged. Any body have any ideas?
[14:42] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  you can 'clone' a list of whats installed.. and reswinstall it easially
[14:42] <dr_willis> !clone | Osmodivs
[14:43] <Leon> hi
[14:43] <g_0_0> alienkid10, it may help but you'll end up with default panels - don't know if you've customized them or not
[14:43] <Guest28089> ?
[14:43] <Guest28089> warum heiß ich jetzt guest
[14:43] <andai> dr_willis: okay, minecraft back up. Now it doesn't even load.
[14:43] <alienkid10> g_0_0: afraid that didn't do it. Unless I now need to restart nm-applet? I didn't customize them much so no biggy
[14:43] <andai> :/
[14:44] <Guest28089> andai
[14:44] <andai> Guest28089: Guest28089
[14:44] <slipp3d> if i'm trying to use virt manager to create a Virtual machine why am i getting told that KVM is not available ... did i for get to install something?
[14:44] <Fuchs> Leon: this is the english channel, for german you can use #ubuntu-de. Regarding your nick: probably because it is registered, protected and you did not register if it is yours.
[14:45] <compdoc> slipp3d, how did you install it?
[14:45] <Guest28089> thank you i tried speaking german  :P
[14:45] <g_0_0> alienkid10, try - sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[14:45] <Osmodivs> dr_willis , I dont have another machine
[14:45] <alienkid10> g_0_0: already the newest version according to apt
[14:45] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  you generate a list of packages.. save it.. .. then use the list...
[14:46] <g_0_0> alienkid10, have you tried reinstalling it?
[14:46] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  or use it on other machines.. or whever you want.
[14:46] <ph88_> query if you can help me with a simple c++ question, thx
[14:46] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, That's what I dont want to do, DOWNLOAD all of that stuff again... Some one suggested APTonCD
[14:46] <alienkid10> g_0_0: I just installed it 2 mins ago since I uninstalled it when working with BluesKaj.
[14:46] <slipp3d> compdoc, i installed it via synaptic
[14:46] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  it wont work that way.
[14:46] <andai> Okay, no, x64 sun java plugin, minecraft DOES load for half a second then goes white
[14:47] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  the stuff you installed was in the apt cache.. for some time.. but most likely is not all there now.
[14:47] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, It wont?
[14:47] <alienkid10> g_0_0: will reinstall it though
[14:47] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  it will not 'remake' deb's from stuff you hae installed now ... it uses whats in the cache.
[14:47] <compdoc> slipp3d, the service needs to be running - forget, but I think its libvirt
[14:47] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, Oh no....
[14:47] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, I don't see the poiny of a nm id you're not using it
[14:47] <BluesKaj> if
[14:47] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  the best solution is to redownload it using that clone list.. you can  copy/restore your apt cache to save some downloads..
[14:48] <tdn> I experience extremely low I/O performance with 10.10 and LUKS even though I am on an SSD. What gives? I figure this is some kind of scheduling problem as it is not a problem for non encrypted partitions.
[14:48] <Osmodivs> dr_willis,  So I am gonna have to download all 100GB all over again!?
[14:48] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  I have to wonder WHAT all you installed that totaled 100gb..
[14:48] <compdoc> tdn, if you didnt create the partition correctly, you will kill performace, and kill the ssd
[14:48] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  i have fully loaded systems that are much smaller then that.
[14:49] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: I do use it from time to time since this install is on an external HDD and I sometime use it on laptops to connect to wireless.
[14:49] <Camarata> When I boot up Ubuntu goes to a command line asking for my password, no GUI, how do I fix please?
[14:49] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, Well, yeah, it's not that much, it 's my music and videos and other stuff
[14:49] <alienkid10> g_0_0: I reinstalled network-manager and network-manager-gnome and it's asking to restart the system
[14:49] <IdleOne> dr_willis: I install almost everything I see mentioned in this channel and I'm at ~7gb
[14:49] <Osmodivs> dr_willis,  But still, more than 1GB for download is too much
[14:49] <Osmodivs> in one day
[14:50] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,    the 10.10.2 cd came out the other day. with most updates allready included. that can sacve some.
[14:50] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  do what you want..  check your cache. but stuff may no longer be in there.
[14:51] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  the 'best' solution for a small lan is to setup an apt-cache-ng server to cache packages for the whole lan. :) that saves lots of bandwitth
[14:51] <Osmodivs> dr_willis,  10.10.2, eh?
[14:51] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  yep. I think i saw that anouncement.. it may been 10.04.2 - i just skimmed it..
[14:51] <natarajan> hai
[14:51] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, Small LAN? like have another PC that serves as a CACHE storage?
[14:52] <dr_willis> proberly was 10.04.
[14:52] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  yes.
[14:52] <natarajan> hai i the new user of ubuntu
[14:52] <natarajan> I need help
[14:52] <dr_willis> natarajan,  and the actual problem is?
[14:52] <Osmodivs> natarajan: Google it!!! hahaha.... I always wanted to say that
[14:53] <natarajan> I'm having ubuntu & windows XP
[14:53] <AbhijiT> !google | Osmodivs
[14:53] <Osmodivs> natarajan,  JK, go ahead, ask the experts
[14:53] <tdn> compdoc, I guess it is created correctly. If not, there is a serious bug in the Ubuntu alternate installer -- I created the partition with the guided installer.
[14:53] <dr_willis> natarajan,  we can read full sentences. :) no need to break things down in to 5 word lines..
[14:53] <AbhijiT> natarajan, ask with all details in one sentence
[14:53] <AbhijiT> or line
[14:54] <natarajan> when my system has booting has many recovery files in ubuntu
[14:54] <compdoc> tdn, gparted does it correctly now - what you do is leave 1 meg of free space before the partition. this causes the first partition to start at secotr 2048
[14:54] <compdoc> sector
[14:54] <natarajan> how could i rectifive this
[14:55] <dr_willis> natarajan,  rephase the question.. on one line.. that made no sence how i read it...
[14:55] <compdoc> its called alignment, and something you have to do with most hard drives these days
[14:55] <natarajan> k Ji
[14:56] <BluesKaj> natarajan, do you mean recovery kernels in the grub menu ?
[14:56] <natarajan> pls take my system on your control and restart the pc you show the problem
[14:56] <ph88_> [about C++] i want to "dynamicly" point to members of  a struct, like this:  struct.variable ... but it treat variable as the name of a member of the struct instead of a variable... how can i fix this ?
[14:57] <dr_willis> natarajan,  we have no way to take controll of your system.. and we cant see if it we were to reboot it remotely...
[14:57] <dr_willis> ph88_,  there are programing specific channels.
[14:57]  * BluesKaj suspects a translator app is being used here
[14:57] <AbhijiT> lol
[14:57] <sipior> ph88_: there's a ##C++ you might want to try
[14:57] <bikcmp> hi all, I removed the top bar (which has the application menus) by accident.
[14:57] <dr_willis> !resetpanel | bikcmp
[14:57] <bikcmp> I'm using ubuntu desktop edition.  Any ideas on how to get it back?
[14:57] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, Why not use X11?
[14:57] <AbhijiT> natarajan, if you have problem with english you can try to get help in your language in #ubuntu-in
[14:57] <natarajan> k many of the recovery file has generate my pc
[14:57] <bikcmp> dr_willis: ah, thanks, you're a life saver :)
[14:58] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  that wouldent make much sence either.  if hes trying to get us to see his boot menu...
[14:58] <bikcmp> dr_willis: worked, thanks.
[14:58] <dr_willis> bikcmp,  be carefull where you click now :)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> !in | natarajan
[14:59] <ph88_> dr_willis and sipior : i can not send text to the channel ##c++ and i don't know why (i'm using webchat.freenode.net)
[15:00] <sipior> ph88_: perhaps you aren't registered?
[15:00] <dr_willis> ph88_,  either it needs registerd nicks.. or it has webchat blocked.. ask in #freenode
[15:00] <andai> just installed 32bit java plugin. how  do i tell chrome/firefox to use it?
[15:00] <hrushi> hey!!!I am not able to compile linux module...I am using kernel version 2.6.36.1
[15:00] <andai> or do i just disable/enable in the plugins thing
[15:00] <dr_willis> andai,  as far as i know. you restart firefox and it should do so.
[15:01] <ph88_> dr_willis and sipior : thx for the answer
[15:01] <klj613-> when i put my usb memory stick in, it automounts but I want to remount it with different permissions. I done this few days ago but now it wont work. When its unmounted i use "mount -t vfat /dev/sdd /media/usb" and it comes back as "no medium found on /dev/sdd" so i checked what the device was called when its mounted and its /dev/sdd1 so i tried that but it says "special device /dev/sdd1 does not exist" any help plz?
[15:01] <sipior> ph88_: no worries
[15:01] <hrushi> i m using command...make -c /lib/modules/2.6.36.1/build M=$(PWD) modules
[15:01] <hrushi> can anyone help....
[15:01] <BluesKaj> hrushi, install build-essential
[15:01] <dr_willis> klj613-,  the /dev/sd## can change..
[15:02] <sunit> I am trying to install j2ee sdk in ubuntu 9.10 and I am getting error error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:02] <dr_willis> klj613-,  plug it in, check dmesg output, after a few moments. or try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see where its at.. or 'sudo blkid'
[15:02] <pinpin_> ubuntu have problem with my laptop touch pad
[15:02] <klj613-> fdisk -l shows it as /dev/sdd1
[15:02] <sunit> please help me
[15:03] <Camarata> Ubuntu 10.10 new install :: I had a fresh install and did the security updates and all that, rebooted and it was working fine last night, then I turned the computer on today and it goes to command line asking for username/password, not the Ubuntu GUI.  HOw can I resolve this please?
[15:03] <dr_willis> klj613-,  be sure you are using /dev/sdd1 and not /dev/sdd by mistake..
[15:03] <worS> test
[15:03] <klj613-> dr_willis: i unmount it, try to manually mount it (/dev/sdd1) and it says "special device /dev/sdd1 does not exist"
[15:03] <Norrlanning> Anyone knows how to successfully change the low-res bootsplash in Ubuntu 10.10? I think I have to edit the /lib/plymouth/ubuntu-text.so however that doesn't do it. I just edited it with ghex and tried it but I broke something by doing so. So now I'm back to scratch :-/
[15:04] <dr_willis> klj613-,  if fdisk shows it.. but /dev/sdd1 does not exist.. somthing is really messed up.
[15:04] <dr_willis> klj613-,  perhaps unplug it.. plug it back in.. check dmesg output for any errors..
[15:04] <geeko> Nooby linux question, running command pand -c connect (laptops MAC address) I just get connection refused. I have already ran pand --listen --role NAT
[15:04] <klj613-> dr_willis: fdisk shows it when its automounted but i need to unmount it. then mount it. fdisk doesnt show it when its unmounted
[15:05] <goguda> Hey guys... I've got a problem. I'm trying to compile an ARM toolchain, and I am getting the error: ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/local/bin/arm-elf-cc': File exists. Failed to create symlink (stage: makesymlink)
[15:05] <klj613-> dr_willis: i used a command the other day to show all devices (even unmounted one) but i cant remember that command
[15:05] <dr_willis> klj613-,  You are unmounting it via the command line?  or the gui.
[15:05] <klj613-> dr_willis: gui
[15:05] <g_0_0> Norrlanning, go to system-> administration ->start up manager
[15:06] <jotaSantana> hi ALL
[15:06] <dr_willis> klj613-,  theres menu items in the gui to 'unmount' or safely remove.. the safely remove - i think actually powers down the device 0- untill it gets reoved/reinsreted
[15:07] <stevecam> this channel must have the most amount of people in it on this server
[15:07] <dr_willis> klj613-,  i think the 'ntfs-config' tool can set it to not automount i belive.
[15:07] <klj613-> dr_willis: the way im unmounting at the moment is same as i did the other day when it actually worked. so i doubt its that. if so, which way should i unmount?
[15:07] <dr_willis> klj613-,  just unmount.. not safely remove.
[15:07] <klj613-> dr_willis: is there a way to configure the automount for rw,umask=0
[15:07] <Norrlanning> g_0_0: Thanks, I will try that soon when I log out of fluxbox :) don't know how to find it otherwise .-D
[15:08] <dr_willis> klj613-,  you could use the umount command also..
[15:08] <dr_willis> klj613-,  check the ntfs-config tool.. thats all i ever need to use.
[15:08] <compdoc> stevecam, we should throw a party
[15:08] <klj613-> dr_willis: ok thanks.
[15:08] <bubble_> can i switch to kde in ububtu ??
[15:08] <dr_willis> bubble_,  install kubuntu-desktop package..
[15:08] <dr_willis> bubble_,  you will then have both.
[15:09] <stevecam> compdoc, depends, what is your idea of a party
[15:09] <klj613-> dr_willis: the type is vfat. ntfs-config still configs vfat?
[15:09] <dr_willis> yes...
[15:09] <klj613-> ok
[15:09] <compdoc> stevecam, it would involve drugs and women
[15:09] <dermensch> linux sux
[15:09] <dr_willis> if that tool works right.. its a little flakey sometimes.
[15:09] <dr_willis> dermensch,  thank you.. have a nice day..
[15:09] <Camarata> dont feed the trolls, they'll move on somewhere else
[15:09] <dermensch> meanwhile at the apple headquarter: http://ffffunny.com/images/8035-meanwhile-at-apple-headquarters-
[15:09] <stevecam> compdoc, as long as we can involve ubuntu somehow we should be allowed to have it here
[15:10] <bubble_> dr_willis: inside ubuntu, i should install a kubuntu package ?
[15:10] <goguda> dermensch: If it wasn't for linux, we wouldn't be where we are in technology these days.
[15:10] <dr_willis> bubble_,  the package name is 'kubuntu-desktop'
[15:10] <IdleOne> !ot | stevecam compdoc
[15:10] <hrushi> I m trying to compile linux module..i m using kernel of version 2.6.36.
[15:10] <hrushi> I using command make -c /lib/modules/2.6.36.1/build M=$(PWD) modules
[15:10] <hrushi> and i m getting error
[15:10] <hrushi> PWD :command not found
[15:10] <FloodBot3> hrushi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <llutz> hrushi: pwd lowercase
[15:10] <puck__> Hello
[15:10] <bubble_> dr_willis: and then how will i switch in between the two ?
[15:10] <hrushi> k..
[15:10] <dr_willis> hrushi,  be sure you are using bash, not sh?
[15:10] <dr_willis> bubble_,  login screen has a menu item
[15:11] <dr_willis> bubble_,  logical eh. :)
[15:11] <stevecam> IdleOne, you just said what i said, but in a very different way
[15:11] <puck__> I have installed ubuntu 10.10 and forgot my admin password please help to reset it
[15:11] <dr_willis> !resetpassword
[15:11] <pinpin_> there is no way
[15:11] <Jef91> My search function doesn't work in nautilus - it just shows nothing and doesn't search. Any ideas what is wrong?
[15:11] <Fuchs> puck__: there is no admin password, at least there should be none.
[15:11] <hrushi> dr_willis,how to check tht??
[15:11] <Camarata> dr_willis: if my computer boots to a command line asking to login instead of the normal login screen, how can i fix that.  this is a new install that was working fine after one reboot (which was after the updates)... Ubuntu 10.10
[15:12] <dr_willis> its easy to reset a password if you use a live cd and chrootin, or edit the password files..
[15:12] <IdleOne> !password | puck__
[15:12] <bubble_> dr_willis: wait i'll check that :)
[15:12] <Fuchs> puck__: you can boot in single user mode (hold shift while booting, choose recovery) and use the command   passwd username   to set a new one
[15:12] <puck__> Fuchs: I had installed two accounts one which is admin
[15:12] <dr_willis> Camarata,  and whats your video card? does 'startx' work?
[15:12] <Fuchs> puck__: you can reset it with passwd. See also the links posted by the bot
[15:12] <stevecam> there is an admin password, but it is random and the account is disabled
[15:12] <andai> is 7.5 gb enough to do a new install
[15:12] <Camarata> Asus UL50VT laptop with nVidia card.. it did apply a nVidia driver update! that is probably it
[15:12] <dr_willis> Hmm.. theres no admin (root) password by default.. its just disabled..
[15:12] <Camarata> it popped up asking me to update for nvidia
[15:13] <andai> is there anything lighter than Xubuntu that's officially supported
[15:13] <Gwar_Trolle> lubuntu maybe?
[15:13] <IdleOne> andai: Lubuntu but not official yet
[15:13] <dr_willis> andai,  theres lubuntu.. but not sure how official that is at this time.. it was supposed to be official. but i think it got pushed back
[15:13] <Camarata> dr_willis: brb trying startx, i am on my windows partition so ill brb
[15:13] <dr_willis> andai,  it is very good however. :)
[15:13] <Norrlanning> g_0_0: Doesn't seem to be possible to change the text. Just to enable or disable text. I want to change the default "Ubuntu 10.10" low res splash to something else..
[15:13] <Camarata> any other suggestions before i reboot?
[15:13] <dr_willis> Camarata,  learn to use a console based irc client. :) like weechat..
[15:13] <andai> dr_willis, IdleOne, would 64bit ubuntu use twice as much ram, in practice? is there really any reason to use it?
[15:13] <andai> i have 2gb
[15:13] <dr_willis> Camarata,  then you can irc  and try to fix it..
[15:14] <monkeyD> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0WcgK97WPk
[15:14] <k4g6> cya
[15:14] <Camarata> is irsii installed by default or such?
[15:14] <dr_willis> andai,  it does not use 2x ram.
[15:14] <Gwar_Trolle> Question: if 10.04 is an LTS, why aren't packages being updated for it?
[15:14] <jrib> !sru | Gwar_Trolle
[15:14] <dr_willis> andai,  if i have a astem that can do 64bit..  i use 64bit..
[15:14] <jrib> Camarata: nope, but you can install it
[15:14] <andai> i'm reading all over the internets that x64 uses twice as much ram
[15:15] <dr_willis> andai,  you are reading wrong.. it does not use 2x ram..
[15:15] <dr_willis> andai,  it Might use a little more ram.. but not much.
[15:15] <goguda> Guys, I'm having a problem building an ARM toolchain. Now I'm getting the error: - Building Newlib
[15:15] <goguda> Failed to build newlib (stage: newlib_build)
[15:15] <andai> dr_willis: "Expect the same applications to take twice as much RAM, so your situation is very similar to running 32 bit on 1GB RAM."
[15:15] <andai> :/
[15:15] <dr_willis> andai,  'citation needed'
[15:15] <soreau> Is there a way to rip a dvd to iso image in ubuntu?
[15:15] <andai> also ""I heard that with a 64 bit system you need twice as much memory as with a 32 bit system""
[15:15] <Fuchs> soreau: yes, multiple
[15:15] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, anyflash probs with 64 bit or do you just stick with html5 sites ?
[15:15] <andai> it sounds like all these people heard it from each other
[15:15] <andai> lol
[15:16] <surf> hi
[15:16] <IdleOne> soreau: ogmrip does it iirc
[15:16] <dr_willis> andai,  ive never noticed any differance in memory ussage.. when ive tried 32 or 64bit live cds
[15:16] <Slartibart> I get dmesg lines like "ufw block input ... src=annan_ip dst=min_ip .. spt=53 dpt=50000" Am I reading it right assuming that some other systems dns tried to connect to my computer?
[15:16] <soreau> Fuchs: I just want to grab the iso bits but I can't seem to figure out how
[15:16] <jrib> soreau: you could just use dd.  But you probably want to use something like vobcopy instead.  Also see ubottu
[15:16] <Fuchs> soreau: you can directly use dd, you can use any frontend such as k3b or brasero or rippers
[15:16] <andai> BluesKaj: Flash works fine on x64 (here at least). Minecraft... does not
[15:16] <andai> );
[15:16] <jrib> !dvd > soreau
[15:16] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  i rarelyhave any 64bit issues with anything.. i dont do much flash . hulu works.
[15:16] <llutz> Slartibart: no, you get a dns-response
[15:16] <geeko> Bluetooth question, running command "pand -c connect (laptops MAC address)" I just get connection refused.
[15:17] <andai> dr_willis: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%22uses%20twice%20as%20much%20ram%22
[15:17] <queso> Is there really a difference between desktop and server editions of ubuntu, or is the difference the default packages?
[15:17] <goguda> Anyone?
[15:17] <jrib> queso: default packages (including kernel)
[15:17] <llutz> andai: http://www.google.com/search?q=earth+is+flat
[15:18] <andai> llutz: lol
[15:18] <klj613-> dr_willis: ntfs-config doesnt show sdd1 (memory stick, vfat)
[15:18] <BluesKaj> andai, well thats good news , I may switch to 64bit the nest clean install then
[15:18] <andai> anecdotal evidence ftw
[15:18] <dr_willis> klj613-,  remove/reinsert it.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> err next
[15:18] <andai> BluesKaj: lol, email me if you get Minecraft to work
[15:18] <BluesKaj> andai, I'm not much of  ghamer
[15:19] <dr_willis> andai,  check their forums. try the sun java instead of the icedtea java..
[15:19] <andai> dr_willis: I did. Now i have a white screen instead of a black screen.
[15:19] <natarajan> hellao
[15:19] <andai> lol
[15:19] <queso> jrib: So when describing an install, it's not necessarily worth noting that it's desktop vs server? Because although you may have started with different .iso's, you could have installed the same packages?
[15:19] <dr_willis> andai,  now time to check their forums..
[15:19] <soreau> Fuchs: IdleOne: jrib: Thanks, it seems k3b is doing the trick..
[15:19] <jrib> queso: sure, though I'd say it's still useful information (just not conclusive)
[15:19] <dr_willis> andai,  i recall others in here running it fine. but i dont play it,.
[15:20] <queso> jrib: okay, thanks
[15:20] <surf> algum brasileiro?
[15:20] <klj613-> dr_willis: still not showing up
[15:20] <krycek> hi, im trying too run the command "~/bin/whatismyip.sh' but this happens /bin/whatismyip.sh: Permission denied
[15:21] <dr_willis> klj613-,  check dmesg output for errors
[15:21] <dr_willis> klj613-,  or go hard core. and try a reboot. it may be real confused from all the plugging in./out
[15:21] <krycek> i changed the permissions to 777 even that dont work. any one
[15:21] <krycek> hi, im trying too run the command "~/bin/whatismyip.sh' but this happens /bin/whatismyip.sh: Permission denied
[15:21] <klj613-> dr_willis: it mounts fine.. and im unfamiliar with dmesg? ok i try reboot
[15:21] <wedwo-> !br | surf
[15:22] <puck__> Thanks everyone, my problem seems to be that when in the grub menu cannot highlight rescue mode so cannot use the utility, I only have a mac keyboard attached to the machine :-((
[15:22] <dr_willis> klj clarify what you mean it monts fine...
[15:22] <arand> krycek: what commands are run within the script?
[15:22] <jrib> krycek: pastebin in full your commands and the entire output: ls -l ~/bin/whatismyip.sh; ~/bin/whatismyip.sh; cat ~/bin/whatismyip.sh
[15:23] <dr_willis> puck__,  ive seen some machines have issues with grub and USB keyboards..  but work with PS2 keyboards.. OR you can se eif the bios has a 'usb-legacy' option you can enable.
[15:23] <surf> thx ubottu
[15:23] <krycek> #!/bin/bash
[15:23] <krycek> echo Your external IP Address is:
[15:23] <krycek> wget http://Www.whatismyip.com -O - -o /dev/null | grep '<TITLE>' | sed -r 's/<TITLE>WhatIsMyIP\.com \- //g' | sed -r 's/<\/TITLE>//g'
[15:23] <FloodBot3> krycek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:23] <krycek> sure sure,
[15:23] <dr_willis> krycek,  you are spelling it correctly.. CASE is imporntant :)
[15:24] <puck__> Thanks drwillis
[15:24] <krycek> so what am i doing wrong ?
[15:25] <dr_willis> that command dosent seem to work either... for one thing krycek
[15:25] <dr_willis> i just cut/pasted it.. no output back
[15:25] <krycek> it says run the command "~/bin/whatismyip.sh" it doesnt work.
[15:25] <jrib> krycek: pastebin in full your commands and the entire output: ls -l ~/bin/whatismyip.sh; ~/bin/whatismyip.sh; cat ~/bin/whatismyip.sh
[15:25] <bastidraZor> krycek: try this.. http://pastebin.com/mUjWg6EY
[15:26] <krycek> ok, thanks.
[15:26] <dr_willis> krycek,  cd to bin and try ./whati<tab> also to complete the name...
[15:26] <Jameees> soreau: <soreau> Jameees: If not, try using network manager with ip=192.168.100.101, mask=255.255.255.0 and gateway 192.168.100.1
[15:26] <Jameees> soreau: I did that and I am able to connect  to the modem page now, but nothing externally
[15:26] <soreau> Jameees: Ok, you need to set the nameserver to 192.168.100.1
[15:26] <krycek> i did, it says i dont have the permission too run it, even when i changed the permission too 777 xD
[15:26] <bubble_> dr_willis: what should i write ? apt get-install kubuntu-desktop ??
[15:27] <Jameees> soreau: it is set to that, still can't connect to anything besides the modem
[15:27] <hrushi> hey i m getting error while compiling module...error is as follows...http://paste.ubuntu.com/570084/
[15:27] <hrushi> plz help..
[15:27] <dr_willis> bubble_,  'sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME'
[15:27] <shrini> natarajan: hai
[15:27] <andai> dr_willis: LOL
[15:27] <shrini> natarajan: i am from chennai
[15:27] <soreau> Jameees: Try pinging 8.8.8.8. If you can 'ping 8.8.8.8' with success, try setting that as your nameserver
[15:27] <shrini> natarajan: need any help in tamil.?
[15:27] <Jameees> cant ping 8.8.8.8 or 4.4.4.4
[15:27] <andai> dr_willis: I installed graphics card driver ( i thought i did that three years ago ) and minecraft works sweet now.
[15:27] <bubble_> dr_willis: what's the name of package in this case ?
[15:27] <soreau> Jameees: ping from your ubuntu of course
[15:28] <andai> dr_willis: only... NO KEYBOARD CONTROL D:
[15:28] <dr_willis> bubble_,  kubuntu-desktop like i said earlier.....
[15:28] <Jameees> soreau: i've tried pinging 8.8.8.8 and i've tried setting it as nameserver, still no luck
[15:28] <dr_willis> andai,  a 3 yr old ubuntu install? thats old :)
[15:28] <soreau> Jameees: hmm.. I'm not really sure then
[15:28] <Slartibart> Ok, I feel stupid today.. How do I setup ufw so that it won't block dns responses?
[15:28] <hrushi> hey i m getting error while compiling module...error is as follows...http://paste.ubuntu.com/570084/
[15:28] <bubble_> dr_willis: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ??
[15:28] <Jameees> soreau: ifconfig reply line is "inet4: 192.168.100.101, bcast:192.168.100.255 mas:255.255.255.0
[15:29] <alisalaah> Okay, I am on from command line, "startx" did not work ... any other suggestions on how to get my GUI back... I'm close to just reinstalling
[15:29] <dr_willis> bubble_,  yes.. thats the exact command i think i pasted earlier...  its also mentioned on the Kubuntu Homepage/faq. that WILl download a lot of stuff.
[15:29] <krycek> thanks, it worked just typing the name of the file, so stupid i didnt see that or understood it xD, thanks again.
[15:29] <compdoc> alisalaah, you use gnome or kde?
[15:29] <soreau> Jameees: So the ip of eth0 card is 192.168.100.101. I just pulled that out of the air because it sounded good. Try seeing what your ip is on windows and then set it to that in ubuntu
[15:29] <alisalaah> gnome and all default from install off disk
[15:29] <dr_willis> alisalaah,  always give a summary of the whole problem. We cant rember what you said/did mor ethen a few min back.
[15:30] <alisalaah> sorry :)
[15:30] <bubble_> dr_willis: when i go to ubuntu software centre and search for it, it doesn't show up. Why is  that ?
[15:30] <hrushi> hey i m getting error while compiling module...error is as follows...http://paste.ubuntu.com/570084/
[15:30] <Jameees> soreau: you mean 78.96.184.15 ?
[15:30] <alisalaah> Ubuntu 10.10, fresh install last night, rebooted after updates fine, did nvidia update then rebooted this morning and now i only have command line... the splash screen comes up for less than a second.   "startx" fails
[15:30] <soreau> Jameees: No, that sounds like your external ip
[15:30] <dr_willis> bubble_,  no idea. i dont use it.. and you are proberly overlooking it.. I use the commnand line
[15:30] <soreau> Jameees: I think the command in windows is iptables or something
[15:30] <soreau> Jameees: ipconfig
[15:30] <Guest47014> linux su
[15:30] <Guest47014> x
[15:31] <Guest47014> x
[15:31] <Guest47014> xx
[15:31] <FloodBot3> Guest47014: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <arand> dr_willis: ir may be that such metapackages are not listed in USC...?
[15:31] <compdoc> alisalaah, try:    /etc/init.d/gdm start
[15:32] <Guest47014> who thinks that windows suxx
[15:32] <hrushi> hey i m getting error while compiling module...error is as follows...http://paste.ubuntu.com/570084/
[15:32] <compdoc> windows works
[15:32] <alisalaah> compdoc: how do i switch from ircII back to console?
[15:32] <bubble_> dr_willis: it says 705 mb of disk will be used after installing the package, is it such big :O ?
[15:32] <ardchoille> I smell a troll
[15:32] <Guest47014> i smell poo ardchoille
[15:32] <Jameees> soreau: ipconfig gives me ip address: 78.96.184.15, subnet mask: 255.255.252.0, default gateway: 78.96.184.1
[15:32] <IdleOne> Guest47014: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:32] <compdoc> alisalaah, hmm, not sure - never used ircII
[15:32] <Guest47014> yes sir
[15:32] <Guest47014> why does ubuntu suxx
[15:33] <IdleOne> That isn't a support question.
[15:33] <alisalaah> hmm, do i have to exit or can i switch over to console? anyone? (from ircII)
[15:33] <arand> hrushi: That doesn't look like an error...
[15:33] <ardchoille> IdleOne: you missed what he posted a couple mins ago :)
[15:33] <compdoc> ubuntu works
[15:33] <Guest47014> of course
[15:33] <IdleOne> ardchoille: I didn't :)
[15:33] <Guest47014> the answer is: it suxx cuz its not windows
[15:33] <soreau> Jameees: Oh really then I guess you're connected straight to the net with no internal ip's.. so just try those for your ip and nameserver respectively in ubuntu
[15:33] <ardchoille> hehe
[15:33] <hrushi> arand,wht shul i do...
[15:34] <arand> hrushi: If you look in the folder your .ko modules should be there, no?
[15:34] <hrushi> arand:no they are not thr
[15:34] <soreau> Jameees: You can probably make your ip address in ubuntu anything that is 78.96.x.x
[15:34] <pauru> hello guys, sup? i am running this command in my terminal "sudo apt-get install unzip libgtk1.2-common libgtk1.2" but it gives me this output:E: Unable to locate package libgtk1.2-common E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk1.2-common' E: Unable to locate package libgtk1.2 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk1.2', can someone help me please?
[15:34] <dajhorn> arand, hrushi:  Ubuntu doesn't have an abc.ko driver.  Google says that abc.ko is a homework question.
[15:35] <geeko> Can someone help me with bluetooth personal area networks?
[15:35] <soreau> Jameees: Make the ip 78.96.184.15 and the nameserver and gateway set to 78.96.184.1
[15:36] <hrushi> I had compiled before and it generated .ko file but now it is giving error...
[15:36] <ardchoille> pauru: it couldn't locate the packages because they aren't in the repos. Besides, gtk1.2 is quite old
[15:37] <pauru> ardchoille, well, i need these packages in order to run epsxe, is there a way that i can find them? cause i've googled about it but it just didn't work
[15:37] <dajhorn> pauru: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgtk1.2&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[15:38] <dajhorn> pauru: libgtk1.2 was removed after the Hardy release.
[15:38] <IdleOne> pauru: libgtk2.0 won't do?
[15:38] <Roasted> What can I do when Rhythmbox only recognizes 6 of the 900 or so songs on my sandisk mp3 player?
[15:38] <ardchoille> pauru: you're better off trying to find an app that does the same thing as epsxe, gtk1.2 is old, we use gtk2.x now
[15:38] <hrushi> arand:there is one more file abc2.c and it is not compiling ir...
[15:38] <hrushi> arand:there is one more file abc2.c and it is not compiling it...
[15:39] <pauru> Hmmmm, well let me see something
[15:39] <dr_willis> pauru,  if you are refering to the play station emulator.. i thought iuve seen ppa/repos of that thing.,
[15:39] <arand> hrushi: Look at the makefile maybe?
[15:40] <pauru> dr_willis, where?
[15:42] <soreau> Jamees: I should have told you to try 'sudo dhclient eth0' first, it may have set everything up automatically if dhcp is working for your ISP
[15:42] <klj613-> dr_willis: still nothing, all i want is to allow everyone full access to a usb memory stick (so apache2 can use the symlink to a holder on memory stick) >.<
[15:42] <sparr> I have a non-admin account on an Ubuntu 10.10 computer. When I use the Sharing dialog to share files from my desktop it works normally. When I do the same to share files from an external storage device the share isn't mountable from the network because my user can't change the permissions to make the files world readable. Other than duplicating the files, is there a solution to this?
[15:43] <alienkid10> I've reinstalled network-manager and network-manager-gnome after uninstalling network-manager-gnome per instruction of someone who was helping me on here before but the icon won't appear in panel even after resetting them and rebooting. nm-applet is running and I have an indicator applet on the panel
[15:43] <dajhorn> sparr: Can you get admin privileges on this computer?
[15:43] <ardchoille> pauru: do any of these help?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=playstation+emulator
[15:43] <alienkid10> how can I get the icon back? It's in startup applicatiosn
[15:43] <alienkid10> applications*
[15:44] <soreau> alienkid10: Have you tired restarting nm-applet?
[15:44] <alienkid10> soreau: multiple times
[15:44] <soreau> alienkid10: hopefully you didn't run it as root at any point
[15:44] <hrushi> arand:http://paste.ubuntu.com/570100/    makefile..
[15:44] <alienkid10> soreau: nope
[15:44] <soreau> alienkid10: Try adding notification area to the panel
[15:45] <Jamees2> soreau, well i dunno what happened, I was messing around in the settings and suddenly a 3rd profile was made named "Auto Ethernet" and it connected automatically o.o
[15:45] <soreau> Jamees: Yea, I suspect that 'sudo dhclient eth0' would have done the same thing. I didn't really understand your setup at first ;)
[15:45] <alienkid10> soreau: unadded then readded no effect
[15:45] <soreau> alienkid10: notification area, not indicator applet
[15:46] <alienkid10> soreau: tried both
[15:46] <soreau> alienkid10: oh well i give up then
[15:46] <g_0_0> alienkid10, you are using gnome?
[15:46] <dr_willis> klj613-,  i do recall that APACHE had its own security settings.. one of which prevented it from following symlinks...
[15:46] <dr_willis> klj613-,  can a differnt user access it?
[15:47] <alienkid10> g_0_0: 99% sure I am! I install Ubuntu 10.10 off live CD and if it's not gnome it does a really good job of faking it
[15:47] <alienkid10> g_0_0: it's def gnome-panel
[15:47] <pauru> ardchoille, this might work, but i want the epsxe not pcsx, well if i can't find out how to set it up maybe i will change my mind
[15:47] <geeko> Ever sense I upgraded to Ubuntu 10.10, I am unable to pair to a beagleboard.
[15:47] <klj613-> dr_willis: apache2 works with symlinks. except from memory stick because automounts it set the permissions to ONLY 'me' (the user). and not the apache2 process, not any process. just me the user. and couple days ago i did remount it to umask=0 or umask=000 cant remember and it allowed apache2 to access the folder via a symlink inside /var/www
[15:48] <dr_willis> klj613-,  you could just make a fstab entry for the device.. that way it wont automount at all
[15:48] <ardchoille> pauru: try epsxe without the gtk1.2 libs and see what happens
[15:48] <dr_willis> klj613-,  and set whatever options you want.
[15:48] <klj613-> dr_willis: isn't fstab for 'static' media? not removable
[15:48] <g_0_0> alienkid10, :) and you have the notification area applet ? and you installed network-manager-gnome ? and rebooted?
[15:48] <ardchoille> pauru: I know that gtk1.2 apps can run in gtk2.x
[15:48] <Techboy1> After I installed Ubuntu every time I start the PC up the GRUB Bootloader fails to load and says "Grub Rescue> Out of Disk".
[15:49] <alienkid10> g_0_0: yes, yes twice, yes again
[15:49] <dr_willis> klj613-,  is it really going to matter?   You can set mount entries based on label or uuid..
[15:49] <soreau> alienkid10: Try running both gnome-panel and nm-applet from a terminal and look for interesting messages
[15:49] <alienkid10> ok
[15:49] <llutz> klj613-: create an udev-rule to set permissions when inserting your usb-device
[15:49] <klj613-> dr_willis: how do i find the uuid? or is that /dev/sdd1
[15:49] <pauru> ardchoille, i tryed but it says that these packages are missing
[15:49] <kaushal> Hi
[15:49] <kaushal>  IE on Ubuntu ?
[15:50] <Norrlanning> If i have a dir with three files. Makefile.in, Makefile.am and plugin.c. How do I compile plugin.c? I've tried doing changes to plugin.c and then i run "make plugin.c". The answer I get is simply "Nothing to be done for plugin.c"
[15:50] <troubadour> watch:)
[15:50] <bubble_> dr_willis: which irc client would you suggest for ubuntu ? i need ease of use, gui as I'm a beginner
[15:50] <arand> hrushi: I don't know.
[15:50] <alienkid10> g_0_0: how do I kill gnome-panel so it doesn't come back until I invoke it?
[15:50] <compdoc> dont know why youd want IE
[15:50] <ardchoille> pauru: ok, maybe a newer emulator is in your future :)
[15:50] <alienkid10> nvm --replace worked
[15:50] <pauru> ardchoille,  maybe xD
[15:51] <sipior> Norrlanning: does "autoreconf" return a proper makefile?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> !IE
[15:51] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:51] <Jamees2> compdoc, probably for activeX, for example I have to monitor the cameras of a deposit and their website requires activex
[15:51] <kaushal> compdoc: ?
[15:51] <Norrlanning> sipior: Should i just run that command while standing in correct dir?
[15:51] <g_0_0> alienkid10, killall gnome-panel?
[15:51] <sipior> Norrlanning: please.
[15:51] <dr_willis> klj613-,  see the !blkid and !mount factoids :) and the ntfs-3g docs/factoids.
[15:51] <prokyon> fuck
[15:51] <alienkid10> g_0_0: nm-applet said: http://pastebin.com/AbW75jtW gnome-panel didn't say anything yet
[15:52] <sipior> prokyon: very witty.
[15:52] <dr_willis> bubble_,  use what you like. I use weechat 99% of the time
[15:52] <alienkid10> g_0_0: killall gnome-panel kills it and it comes back 1 second later
[15:52] <alienkid10> --replace worked
[15:52] <Norrlanning> sipior: Ok, I'll get back to you after installing autoconf :)
[15:52] <bubble_> dr_willis: I'm new to it. I don't know much
[15:52] <compdoc> I use windows 7, so I have the latest IE. It doesnt open some webpages correctly and its open to infections. I have to swtich to chrome a lot
[15:52] <sipior> Norrlanning: yeah, you'll want that :-)
[15:52] <bubble_> dr_willis: i heard you saying weechat is console based
[15:52] <BluesKaj> kaushal, I don't even run IE on windows , firefox is the default broswer on ubuntu
[15:52] <g_0_0> alienkid10, have you installed custom icons by any chance?
[15:52] <dr_willis> bubble_,  yes it is
[15:53] <compdoc> some websites just dont work with IE correctly
[15:53] <alienkid10> g_0_0: nope
[15:53] <bubble_> dr_willis: do you think it would be easy for me to keeping in mind I'm a beginner ?
[15:53] <alienkid10> g_0_0: only thing theme related I changed was where the close,maximize,minimize buttons were
[15:53] <dr_willis> bubble_,  read its docs at its homepage. or try the other irc clients. theres proberly a dozen+ of them
[15:53] <alienkid10> and the fonts
[15:54] <Jamees2> Any way to access a website that is using ActiveX  ?
[15:54] <arand> compdoc: offtopic...
[15:54] <g_0_0> alienkid10, ok just a thought
[15:54] <bubble_> dr_willis: i appreciate your effort. thank you :)
[15:54] <stevecam> Jamees2, wine
[15:54] <Norrlanning> sipior: Can't exec "libtoolize": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 196.
[15:54] <Norrlanning> Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 196.
[15:54] <Norrlanning> autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[15:55] <Jamees2> stevecam, wine what ? IE ?
[15:55] <arand> kaushal: IE on Ubuntu is tricky if not almost impossible, I'm afraid.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, btw did you try to reinstall networkmanager ?
[15:55] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: yeah
[15:55] <BluesKaj> and ?
[15:55] <stevecam> yeah
[15:55] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: didn't come back
[15:56] <stevecam> where can i find a .deb package for MSIE?
[15:56] <dr_willis> theres that ies4linux - but thats for web designers.. not actually usng as a browser
[15:56] <sipior> Norrlanning: sorry, try just "autoconf"
[15:56] <BluesKaj> is it listed in applications , alienkid10 ?
[15:56] <sipior> Norrlanning: ah wait, is it missing configure.ac?
[15:56] <alienkid10> if you mean the menu then no
[15:56] <AbhijiT> :o
[15:56] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: ^
[15:57] <AbhijiT> why would one want IE on linux? kaushal arand ???
[15:57] <sipior> AbhijiT: testing purposes, if nothing else.
[15:57] <dr_willis> AbhijiT,  'web site designers'
[15:57] <Jamees2> abhijain, for example I'd want it so I can access a website that has ActiveX
[15:57] <kaushal> AbhijiT: since ILO2 supports only IE
[15:57] <AbhijiT> sipior, dr_willis oh! i feel really sad about them!!!! :P
[15:57] <Jamees2> AbhijiT*
[15:57] <AbhijiT> kaushal, and what is ILO2? you should to log bug or complaint with them about it
[15:57] <AbhijiT> Jamees2, yah
[15:58] <osmosis_paul> Hi, i'm trying to create an a date 5 days ago, i have this for now. DATE=$(date '+%Y-%m-%d %T') how can i modify the %d for the day and give a 5 days ago day?
[15:58] <Jamees2> read above
[15:58] <klj613-> dr_willis: thanks for your help. i came across "storage device manager" which does it all for me :)
[15:58] <AbhijiT> Jamees2, yeah read
[15:58] <dr_willis> web 'site' we use at work. dosent render right in Firefox or Chrome.. only Ie...
[15:58] <dr_willis> klj613-,  be VERY carefull with that tool.
[15:58] <kaushal> ILO2 is Integrated Lights Out for remote management of the server
[15:58] <AbhijiT> ok
[15:58] <silverlightning> hi
[15:58] <Norrlanning> sipior: I could run "autoconf plugin.c" it created a dir called autom4te.cache containing three files: output.0, traces.0 and requests
[15:58] <silverlightning> do you know anything about bugs in Maveric when booting?
[15:59] <klj613-> dr_willis: i only wanted it to change permissions for one mount anyway..
[15:59]  * AbhijiT has never encoured any problematic web site which only runs or which runs well only on IE. i am doing fine!!!! withought IE!!!
[15:59] <dr_willis> silverlightning,  thats a bit.. broad... care to be more specific.
[15:59] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, did you install network-manager-gnome ?
[15:59] <Norrlanning> sipior: Only requests has any info though
[15:59] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: yes
[16:00] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, because if you just installed network manager , it won't show up
[16:00] <sipior> Norrlanning: automake has already been run (the Makefile.in), but there should be a configure.ac which is used by autoconf. i'd say drop the software developer a line, and see if they can shed some light on the situation.
[16:00] <silverlightning> I have trouble booting smoothly, some times the screen is black for ages, and sometimes it stops during the ubuntu logo right before it't ready. I have ubuntu installed on the entire harddrive, only system on the machine
[16:01] <silverlightning> dr_willis, does it make any sense?
[16:01] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: guessed that since when i went to install it network-manager was installed already and network-manager-gnome wasn't
[16:01] <kaushal> AbhijiT: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ILO2
[16:01] <Norrlanning> sipior: Well thank you for your help nevertheless :)
[16:01] <sipior> Norrlanning: no trouble, best of luck with it
[16:02] <Norrlanning> sipior: Thanks :)
[16:02] <silverlightning> I have severalt attempts before Maverick boots fully, and it feels so insecure and flimsy
[16:02] <AbhijiT> kaushal, :-/ (Its okay!)
[16:02] <llutz> osmosis_paul: man date (-d "5 days ago")
[16:03] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, whynot purge both then reinstall them
[16:03] <rashedul> i cannot activate the dockbarx
[16:03] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: will try
[16:04] <rashedul> how to activate the dockbaarx
[16:04] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, I didn't mean to pm you that was an error
[16:04] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: ok
[16:06] <JabberWalkie> so, I have this windows program that I run in wine. Is there a way I can automate some actions that would normally be done with a mouse+keyboard interaction with the GUI? Like some kind of script, but that can work with a GUI interface?
[16:07] <JabberWalkie> err /s/GUI interface/GUI
[16:07] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: dpkg: warning: while removing network-manager, directory '/var/lib/NetworkManager' not empty so not removed.
[16:07] <alienkid10> dpkg: warning: while removing network-manager, directory '/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections' not empty so not removed.
[16:08] <osmosis_paul> llutz, "       -d, --date=STRING
[16:08] <osmosis_paul>               display time described by STRING, not `now'" what would be STRING i dont know the exactly date 5 days ago, it is relative, tomorrow will be diferent that today
[16:08] <osmosis_paul> or String would be the delay days?
[16:08] <llutz> osmosis_paul: man date (-d "5 days ago")
[16:08] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: restarting to complete installation
[16:09] <llutz> osmosis_paul: literally
[16:10] <scott__> just started using ubuntu, whats the differnce between openoffices suite install and the stand alone word processor ,database, and spread sheet installs
[16:10] <llutz> osmosis_paul: date -d "5 days ago" '+%Y-%m-%d %T'
[16:10] <silverlightning> so there's really no help or guidence when it comes to booting irregularities in Maverick?
[16:11] <bullgard> '~$ netstat -a; Proto=TCP; Local Address=*:sunrpc; Foreign Address=*:*; State=LISTEN'. What does »sunrpc« mean here?
[16:11] <noob> Can somebody help me upgrade to 10.04 to 10.10? I get this weird error msg
[16:11] <IdleOne> noob: what is the error?
[16:11] <osmosis_paul> llutz, let see thanks a lot
[16:11] <dr_willis> silverlightning,  disable plymouth so you can see the messages
[16:11] <GeekMan> return and enter are the same keys in linux right?
[16:11] <dajhorn> JabberWalkie: Try the xmacro package.
[16:11] <llutz> bullgard:a portmapper like portmap (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Procedure_Call)
[16:11] <dr_willis> GeekMan,  and on all the other os's ive ever used. :)
[16:11] <ohsix> bullgard: it's the port its bound to; you can look them up in /etc/services
[16:12] <GeekMan> yes
[16:12] <JabberWalkie> dajhorn, ok, I will check it out. Thanks.
[16:12] <dr_willis> GeekMan,  now on the old typewriters......
[16:12] <noob> IdleOne: can u give a link to the pastebin? its pretty long
[16:12] <IdleOne> !paste
[16:12] <llutz> bullgard: listening port 111 (grep sunrpc /etc/services)
[16:12] <silverlightning> where is plymouth?
[16:12] <caracuri> hi
[16:12] <silverlightning> I shall have to look for it
[16:13] <Norrlanning> silverlightning: huh? where plymouth is? do you mean the theme-files and so on?
[16:13] <dr_willis> silverlightning,  you can use the 'text' or  just remove the 'quiet splash' option in the grub configs, to disable it. or edit the grub boot menu when you reboot. to disable it for a single boot instance
[16:13] <caracuri> is there an easy way to switch Graphic Cards with a laptop with 2 GC Intel and Ati?
[16:13] <llutz> bullgard: netstat -an   to get ports listed
[16:14] <dr_willis> caracuri,  ive seen others ask how to switch video cards with those new laptops that have 2.. you m ay want to check the forums. ive never seen a quick answer in here.
[16:14] <silverlightning> hmm, better what is plymouth, and how to detect the messages
[16:14] <noob> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/570114/ Thats error
[16:15] <abstrakt> is there a way to force applications to launch on to and stay on a specific virtual desktop?
[16:15] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: still nothing!
[16:15] <dr_willis> silverlightning,  plymouth gives you that silly Ubuntu .... animation at boot time.. and it coers up the 'confuseing' messages you are wantinmg to see.
[16:15] <abstrakt> like say I always want firefox on desktop 2 and I always want rhythmbox on desktop 3
[16:15] <IdleOne> noob: you are running 10.04?
[16:15] <noob> IdleOne: yes
[16:15] <dr_willis> abstrakt,  compiz has settings to do that if you use the right plugins/ccsm settings
[16:16] <caracuri> dr_willis, I know that is possible to do.. but i'am looking for a way to switch without recompile kernel
[16:16] <IdleOne> noob: do " lsb_release -a " to make sure please
[16:16] <dr_willis> caracuri,  no idea. :) i dont have such a thing.  perhaps it will be a standard feature in the next release.
[16:16] <noob> IdleOne: Run thaat in the terminal?
[16:16] <IdleOne> noob: yes
[16:17] <alienkid10> is there some other networking service that could be affecting this?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> dr_willis,any suggestions as to why the nm-applet can't be reinstalled to the panel ?
[16:17] <caracuri> dr_willis, I hope
[16:17] <differentreality> Hello all!  I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 32-bit latest version on a new pc with mobo: gigabyte ud3r and hard disk: western digital black sata3, but on gparted I cannot see my hard disk!  On a couple of sites I see that there is some kind of problem with sata3 disks?  Is that accurate?  And what is the solution? Thanks in advance!
[16:17] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  try making a new user se if it works for them.
[16:17] <silverlightning> is it like an F-button to get to the Grub configurations?
[16:17] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  or totally reset your gnome settings..
[16:17] <noob> IdleOne: Should i send u the output?
[16:18] <IdleOne> noob: just confirm it is 10.04
[16:18] <dr_willis> silverlightning,  i always set grub to NOT autohide (anothe rsilly default :) ) i think its shift, or space when you boot, if its hidden.
[16:18] <noob> IdleOne: it is
[16:18] <dr_willis> !grub2
[16:18] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, read dr_willis ' post above '
[16:18] <IdleOne> noob: ok, how are you trying to upgrade? from command line or via update manager?
[16:18] <abstrakt> dr_willis, ok, which plugins are the "right plugins" :)
[16:18] <Steel_> Could anyone be so kind to tell me how i see if a reposotory package is installed or not via apt ?
[16:19] <noob> IdleOne: via update manger
[16:19] <abstrakt> Steel_, use synaptic?
[16:19] <Steel_> apt
[16:19] <Pici> Steel_: apt-cache policy packagename
[16:19] <llutz> Steel_:  apt-cache policy <package>
[16:19] <silverlightning> thanks dr:willis, I need these kind of tips, I usually live with the default settings in Ubuntu, and only fiddle when I'm forcet to lol
[16:19] <IdleOne> noob: all updates are installed?
[16:19] <Steel_> thanks a lot  @ all
[16:19] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: ok
[16:19] <dr_willis> abstrakt,  assume people have the attention span of a newt on irc.. I dont even recall what plugins you are refering to. :)
[16:19] <noob> IdleOne: yes
[16:19] <abstrakt> dr_willis, compiz
[16:20] <abstrakt> dr_willis, and or if I can script compiz, e.g. so I can write my own launcher script to launch various programs and place them on various desktops
[16:20] <abstrakt> that's fine too
[16:20] <dr_willis> abstrakt,  no idea. I dont use the feature. :) ive sene that q. asked befor in some forums/blog sites  and in here.
[16:20] <IdleOne> noob: ok in update manager, click on the settings button (bottom left) and make sure you have Normal Releases set in the updates tab
[16:20] <noob> IdleOne: did you see the error msg? i sent the url of the pastebin
[16:20] <dr_willis> abstrakt,  there is some window settings plugin. I have used it to make the 'copy' dialogs always be 'always on top' thats about all i need.
[16:20] <IdleOne> noob: I did but that would normally be an error you get when trying to update to alpha/dev release
[16:20] <noob> IdleOne: hmmm
[16:21] <g_0_0> alienkid10, can you pastebin the result of -> ps ax | grep nm-applet ?
[16:21] <noob> IdleOne: when the upgrade is happening it gives me the error msg
[16:21] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: astonding lack of it in my test acc to
[16:21] <alienkid10> g_0_0: sure
[16:22] <AntonyBaton> hi all
[16:22] <IdleOne> noob: do you have any packages you pinned? if you don't know then you don't
[16:22] <alienkid10> g_0_0: http://pastebin.com/M0nfHnuG
[16:23] <noob> IdleOne: Pinned? I dont know what that is im a noob and pretty new to ubuntu
[16:23] <IdleOne> noob: ok, so you don't. have you added any PPA's to your sources?
[16:23] <AntonyBaton> who is free, to help newer???
[16:23] <noob> IdleOne: yes one a theme
[16:24] <IdleOne> noob: ok disable it and try the upgrade again
[16:24] <alienkid10> BluesKaj, dr_willis a test account doesn't have it either
[16:24] <noob> IdleOne: ok one sec
[16:24] <bullgard> llutz, ohsix: Thank you very much for your help.
[16:25] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, now you know why I use kde :)
[16:25] <IdleOne> noob: that theme won't be upgraded so you will have to re-add it after the upgrade is completed with the proper repository link for 10.10.
[16:25] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: kde is really slow for me :P
[16:25] <noob> IdleOne: k
[16:25] <noob> IdleOne: How do I remove it?
[16:26] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: plus I can't figure out how to add a new panel and shrink the current one
[16:26] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, what kind of pc/specs ?
[16:26] <dr_willis> AntonyBaton,  state the problem.  and see who answers.
[16:26] <IdleOne> noob: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # in front of the deb line for that theme
[16:26] <mbvpixies78> how do I disable and re-enable a CD-ROM drive?
[16:26] <avis-> i need to start a sudo openvpn filename.opvn as a system service i had turned it into a init script and sudo update-rc.d after sudo chmod +x and it worked great till i got rid of network manager and swapped between eth0 and eth1
[16:26] <noob> IdleOne: Thanx
[16:26] <ohsix> BluesKaj: that's why you use kde? dag
[16:26] <avis-> scuse me sudo openvpn filename.opvn  then sudo update-rc.d defaults   changing the eth ports is what made everything not automatic
[16:26] <IdleOne> noob: make sure to save and run sudo apt-get update then do the upgrade
[16:27] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: Emachines W3650 (google it) with Radeon HD 4350 propriety driver and 2GB of RAM instead of 2
[16:27] <avis-> i got rid of network manager and swapped between eth0 and eth1
[16:27] <alienkid10> I also like the look of Gnome more then KDE
[16:27] <sparr> dajhorn: I can, eventually, but I'd rather find a real solution to this problem (and/or file a bug report about it)
[16:28] <ztripez> i have 6 luks-crypted drives.. if i boot up my computer without "quiet" in grubs the boot process don't wait for me to enter the passwords.. it just continues to gnome
[16:28] <AntonyBaton> inserting headphones into laptop, but sound continued goes from speakers
[16:28] <alienkid10> g_0_0: this like unfixable? Should I just reinstall Ubuntu?
[16:28] <noob> IdleOnre: I got the ppa from the terminal so im not sure if i have the .deb name
[16:28] <mbvpixies78> I want to try resetting a CD-ROM drive because the light is always on.  Does anyone know how to unmount and then remount CD=ROM?  I don't know which one it is under /dev
[16:29] <noob> IdleOnre: I got the ppa from the terminal so im not sure if i have the .deb name
[16:29] <noob> IdleOnre: I got the ppa from the terminal so im not sure if i have the .deb name
[16:29] <Pici> !tab | noob
[16:29] <IdleOne> noob: got it :)
[16:29] <IdleOne> 4 times
[16:29] <IdleOne> hehe
[16:29] <noob> IdleOne: Sorry I didnt see the bottom ones
[16:30] <ohsix> alienkid10: do the icons move at all in the notification area if you kill nm-applet
[16:30] <t_boz> alguien que hable español??
[16:30] <Pici> !es | t_boz
[16:30] <IdleOne> noob: you can also disable it from clinking on the Settings button again and going to the Other Software tab
[16:30] <alienkid10> ohsix: nope
[16:30] <AntonyBaton> hear the sound from headphones and from speakers, but want to hear only from headphones??? where is such configurations???
[16:30] <ztripez> anyone?
[16:31] <ohsix> alienkid10: who told you to uninstall network-manager? heh
[16:31] <g_0_0> alienkid10, I assume you're using a wireless connection ?
[16:31] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  light is on when theres no disk?
[16:31] <mbvpixies78> dr_willis: yes, from bootup and never stops
[16:31] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  its /dev/cdrom here. a link to the actual device.
[16:31] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  perhaps put a disk in? :)
[16:31] <alienkid10> ohsix: BluesKaj did when trying to help me get back online
[16:32] <ohsix> ahghoughoauhoaurhaourhoauhgoaughrarouh
[16:32] <mbvpixies78> dr_willis:  it won't open
[16:32] <ohsix> alienkid10: ok, do you have a terminal open?
[16:32] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  if theres no disk.. then its not mounted.. its proberly some automount service trying to look for a disk. theres the 'eject' command if you want to OPEN the tray
[16:32] <alienkid10> g_0_0: no. I do use them sometimes though when traveling
[16:32] <alienkid10> ohsix: yes
[16:32] <ohsix> alienkid10: see if the output of nmcli dev is empty
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ohsix, I use kde , because it's more to my taste and requirements , it's networking oprions are clearer and more concise for /etc/network/interface users like me.
[16:32] <mbvpixies78> how does eject work?
[16:32] <noob> IdleOne: settings tab in the software center?
[16:32] <mbvpixies78> dr_willis:  how does eject command work?
[16:32] <ohsix> BluesKaj: clear as mud; good job
[16:33] <alienkid10> it's not
[16:33] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  type eject.. it opens tray...
[16:33] <IdleOne> noob: in software center click on edit > software sources
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ohsix, ok what do you need cleared up ?
[16:33] <searchfgold> mbvpixies78: eject <device_name>    it opens the cd tray
[16:33] <IdleOne> noob: then click on Other Software and disable the PPA for that theme
[16:33] <ohsix> alienkid10: ok, killall -9 nm-applet, then start nm-applet in the same terminal
[16:34] <tavish> hi! i can't get my webcam to work with opencv. v4l-info says the driver is 'uvcvideo', it works with cheese and most other times. any hints?
[16:34] <ohsix> BluesKaj: that you suggested someone uninstall network-manager is astounding; doubly so since they have wifi
[16:34] <alienkid10> ohsix: done
[16:34] <ohsix> alienkid10: is it running in the foreground, no messages?
[16:34] <alienkid10> ohsix: he didn't know I used wifi before
[16:34] <mbvpixies78> dr_willis:  eject doesn't open it...  I guess I'll try using that small emergency pin hole
[16:34] <alienkid10> ohsix: 4 lines
[16:34] <ohsix> pastebin
[16:35] <BluesKaj> ohsix, wifi wasn't the issue at the time , ethernet was
[16:35] <alienkid10> ohsix: doing so
[16:35] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  check dmesg command.. sounds like  possible hardware issue
[16:35] <allure> Hello. I'm trying to connect to a pptp VPN with no success. Here is the client's log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/570124/ - What is going on?
[16:35] <ohsix> BluesKaj: it's like suggesting a lobotomy to cure a stutter
[16:35] <alienkid10> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/ppwWNnM3 10 mins until expire
[16:36] <mbvpixies78> dr_willis:  what should I look for in dmsg?
[16:36] <dr_willis> mbvpixies78,  somthing mentining cdrom i would guess.. or /dev/sr0
[16:36] <dajhorn> sparr:  (I was away).  It isn't a bug, and your disk is probably FAT32.   You can get the desired result by changing the filesystem to EXT2, or by syncing the files that you want to share to a local directory.
[16:37] <noob> IdleOne: Upgrade is working so far...
[16:37] <bagge> hi... I have a little problem... My graphics card stopped working. Now I'm using the onboard graphics, but I can't get into X.
[16:37] <tdroid> When building a kernel install package, how to I include files in the output /etc/kernel/postinst.d?
[16:37] <IdleOne> noob: good :)
[16:37] <IdleOne> noob: so you disabled that PPA?
[16:37] <alienkid10> ohsix, BluesKaj you see my install is... different it's on an external HDD since I was told to not partition the internal HDD so I sometimes use this install on a laptop with wifi mostly on the desktop I'm on now though
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ohsix, uhhm, nm wasn't working for him so we tried the network/interfaces route and in oder to make that work nm either had to be disabled or removed since it was interfering but useless as a connection manager ...too bad youweren't around when this was happening , you could have helped
[16:38] <ohsix> alienkid10: pastebin the output of gconftool-2 -R /apps/panel
[16:38] <ohsix> BluesKaj: if it's "interfering" and "useless", but you don't know how to solve those things, best not to suggest anything
[16:39] <alienkid10> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/z3aS825q
[16:39] <ohsix> alienkid10: it's all the same, shouldn't change anything (the external drive thing)
[16:40] <noob> IdleOne: It gave me the same error msg :(
[16:40] <silverlightning> is ubuntu good for hacking my own passwords?
[16:40] <IdleOne> noob: at what point?
[16:40] <alienkid10> ohsix: oh I know but it confuses people sometimes and makes others lecture me on "do it the normal way" crap
[16:41] <sparr> dajhorn: at minimum, there's a bug when the OS prompts me to change permissions (and then attempts to), when the mount in question doesn't allow the desired permissions to be set
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ohsix, he got his ethernet working without nm, now he wants it back...he's going to have the same problem ...too many cooks here anyway ..he's all yours , you save his network setup
[16:41] <Kartagis> !ati
[16:41] <sparr> dajhorn: the actual result might be as intended, but the process and problem are poorly communicated to the user
[16:42] <fedora_newb> I have ubuntu installed on an external fantom drive. Looking at the drive, it appears to be some generic drive. After awhile of ubuntu running, it just seems to lock up. Running a modified version of XP off of it has no probs. Any idea how to fix this?
[16:42] <g_0_0> alienkid10, as I understand it you have ubuntu installed on an external disk and you use the same installation for two different machines, one a laptop and the other a desktop, is that correct ?
[16:42] <ohsix> BluesKaj: same problem eh
[16:42] <noob> IdleOne: im pretty sure it was when it was calculting the changes after getttings the new packeges
[16:42] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: NM wasn't the problem I found out. It's something to do with my network card.
[16:42] <allure> Hello. I'm trying to connect to a pptp VPN with no success. Here is the client's log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/570124/ - What is going on?
[16:43] <alienkid10> g_0_0: with the laptop on occasionally but yes
[16:43] <ohsix> alienkid10: ok by all indications, it should be there, did you remove the configuration you did in /etc/networking/interfaces? it might not show at all if theres no interfaces to manage
[16:43] <IdleOne> noob: hmm, I suppose you could do a fresh install of 10.10. Do you have a separate /home partition?
[16:43] <JMOB54> Hey, everyone.  New to linux.  Running wubi (32bit 10.10) on a W7 box.  Departitioned some space to put a full install on.  I have the 10.10 amd64 desktop.iso, but I don't have a disk right now.  Can I do the install from within Wubi?   Can't seem to figure out how to approach this.
[16:43] <alienkid10> ohsix: I did no
[16:43] <alienkid10> not*
[16:43] <sparr> dajhorn: it should say "sorry, you can't share that" or something, not appear to complete successfully
[16:43] <Alexander> Can somebody help me with port forwarding for Transmission?
[16:44] <ohsix> BluesKaj: btw, nmcli dev is something you should commit to memory, it'll tell you if network manager knows about a device or not in one quick test; no need to instruct people to remove n-m because of personal dislike for it
[16:44] <noob> IdleOne: I would but I dont want unity, and its a netbook, is there any way around it?
[16:44] <g_0_0> alienkid10, a different network card in the laptop and in the desktop is possibly your problem are the interfaces recognized when you swap machines with the same installation ?
[16:44] <tdroid> alienkid10: I've had problems with external disks spinning down and screwing things up, what's the drive's manufacturer?
[16:44] <ohsix> alienkid10: do so, then sudo restart network-manager
[16:44] <alienkid10> g_0_0: yes
[16:44] <IdleOne> noob: use the Desktop Edition live cd
[16:45] <alienkid10> tdroid: Seagate
[16:45] <fedora_newb> anyone know how to fix an external drive from locking up with ubuntu?
[16:45] <IdleOne> noob: oh, netbook
[16:45] <fedora_newb> ubuntu running on this external
[16:45] <Alexander>  Can somebody help me with port forwarding for Transmission?
[16:45] <IdleOne> !usb | noob
[16:45] <Alexander> Please?
[16:45] <tdroid> alienkid10: I've had that problem with Segates. There's something you can download to turn off drive spin-down
[16:45] <alienkid10> tdroid: already did
[16:45] <alienkid10> ohsix: IT WORKED
[16:46] <ohsix> yay
[16:46] <IdleOne> noob: as for that error you are getting I don't know what else to tell you.
[16:46] <alienkid10> ohsix: but it shows networking no enabled
[16:46] <alienkid10> ohsix: nvm shows no managed
[16:46] <ohsix> yea, you might need to undo more of the damage you did :P
[16:46] <ohsix> gotta walk the dog.
[16:46] <alienkid10> for my main NIC so it's showing waves and a !
[16:46] <Alexander> Does anybody know how to port forward on Ubuntu?
[16:47] <dajhorn> sparr:  Those would be scary and complex things to show the user, so gnome design policy tends towards hiding it.  (Okay, so it is sorta-kinda-mostly a bug.)
[16:47] <mehdy> Hi Everybody
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ohsix, what personal dislike ? I use it all the time on my latop, so get off your high horse and stop being so critical ...if you wanna help , then help
[16:47] <GeekMan> whats pastebin command
[16:47] <mehdy> I have a problem with tor
[16:47] <ohsix> BluesKaj: can't talk, busy doing just that, it's why i use computers
[16:48] <mehdy> GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/loell/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[16:48] <mehdy> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/loell/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[16:48] <mehdy> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:48] <FloodBot3> mehdy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: let me explain what they problem really was which I found out after you tried to help me and it didn't work.
[16:49] <Alexander> Does anybody here know how to port forward?
[16:49] <dajhorn> sparr: Maybe this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/115937
[16:49] <Alexander> I can't open this port.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, it's ok , next time you ned help , try to explain the circumstances of your situation and setup , because the=at's important
[16:49] <GeekMan> whats the pastebin command
[16:49] <GeekMan> !pastebin
[16:49] <Alexander> !port forwarding
[16:49] <GeekMan> i love you ubottu
[16:49] <Alexander> !port_forwarding
[16:50] <dajhorn> sparr: Looks like they've been arguing about showing an error for FAT/NTFS sharing for three or four years.
[16:50] <Alexander> fff
[16:50] <Alexander> !networking
[16:50] <sipior> Alexander: which ports are you trying to forward, and how are you going about it?
[16:50] <rayolove> ola
[16:50] <noob> IdleOne: is there a way to install 10.10 netbook and then remove unity
[16:50] <Alexander> I'm not sure.
[16:50] <Alexander> I'm copletley new to port forwarding.
[16:50] <Alexander> I want to forward Transmission's port.
[16:50] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: according to NM it's a RTL-8139 chip on the PCI card that for some reason after a bit of googling found many others wtih this issue and chip I found that all I needed to do was power off and unplug for 30 seconds-5mins. Sorry about no explain my setup that was because before when trying to get help for somethings then I just got yelled at basically for not doing things "the right way" by using an External HDD
[16:50] <IdleOne> noob: I bet there is but I have never done it.
[16:51] <Alexander> But. i'm not sure if I should give it a new port first.
[16:51] <IdleOne> noob: I am not sure what the package name for unity is to remove it. but you can install Ubuntu using a USB
[16:51] <sipior> Alexander: perhaps you should start here first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[16:51] <alienkid10> which gets me nowhere besides turned off about the Linux community
[16:52] <ohsix> BluesKaj: you should probably look up what concise means too
[16:52] <GeekMan> http://pastebin.com/BNMxRGKb is my cover action correct under module power save because its not working
[16:52] <alienkid10> I'm glad you g_0_0 and ohsix didn't just tell me off like many others. Thank you
[16:52] <berefeira> anyone use miredo? having trouble accessing kame
[16:52] <Alexander> Sipior, thanks! :D
[16:53] <GeekMan> berefeira isnt that a chat program
[16:53] <alienkid10> ohsix: I'll google I guess for how to make NM manager my card again
[16:53] <berefeira> GeekMan: no, ipv6 tunnel
[16:53] <GeekMan> ?
[16:53] <thevishy> need a help on network bonding - why do we need a line like alias bond0 bonding options bond0 mode=1 miimon=100
[16:53] <GeekMan> oh
[16:53] <thevishy> that is in modprobe.conf file ?
[16:54] <GeekMan> i read something intresteing about v6 in 2600
[16:54] <berefeira> Geekman: I'm connected to freenode through ipv6, but browser traf is not ipv6
[16:54] <GeekMan> cant they find your macaddress now using v6
[16:54] <noob> IdleOne: I think I found a way. you do a fresh install and then remove some packages
[16:54] <BluesKaj> alienkid10, yeah external drives can be iffy , anyway good luck and enjoy ubuntu
[16:54] <noob> IdleOne: ill try it I have nothing to lose
[16:55] <IdleOne> noob: best way to learn
[16:55] <GeekMan> berefeira sry im not a networking guru
[16:55] <berefeira> GeekMan: not sure, but need to know if DNS is problem or something to config
[16:55] <alienkid10> BluesKaj: they can be if you don't research first. Thank you.
[16:55] <berefeira> GeekMan: thanks, no worries
[16:57] <researcher1> anybody here has installed HP laser jet printer on Ubuntu?
[16:58] <JMOB54> trying to migrate from a wubi install to an actual full one, but I'm stuck without external media right now (no discs, though I do have a 16gb usb w/a live install).  Any way to get this done right from within wubi?
[16:58] <Alexander> Sipoir, i'm still kind of confused.
[16:58] <Alexander> I'm using this guide: http://www.transmissionbt.com/help/gtk/1.9x/html/pfrouter.html
[16:58] <Alexander> And i'm stuck on step 3.
[16:59] <sipior> Alexander: ah, i see. can you connect to the configuration screen of your home router?
[16:59] <compdoc> JMOB54, there are free prgorams out there that lets windows mount an iso
[16:59] <Alexander> I don't know how.
[16:59] <Ubuntu_User> hello
[16:59] <Alexander> :X
[16:59] <alienkid10> bye all and thanks again
[16:59] <sipior> Alexander: generally, there will be a web interface that you can point your browser at.
[16:59] <teo_> asd
[16:59] <teo_> asd
[16:59] <teo_> asd
[16:59] <FloodBot3> teo_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <toniadmin> o
[17:00] <toniadmin> sa
[17:00] <toniadmin> dsd
[17:00] <toniadmin> assa
[17:00] <toniadmin> das
[17:00] <toniadmin> as
[17:00] <FloodBot3> toniadmin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <toniadmin> sad
[17:00] <Ubuntu_User> im unable to identify my nick through nickserv i'm using empathy messenger ... what is the command please
[17:00] <sipior> Alexander: consult the documentation for your router for details. or just try pointing your browser at the address indicated
[17:00] <Alexander> Adress indicated?
[17:00] <Alexander> My IP?
[17:00] <silverarrow> hi again
[17:01] <Alexander> Or Wifi address ?
[17:01] <sipior> Alexander: the ip address of the router
[17:01] <Guest45834> I'm not trying to cheat on my hw, but I've been working on this question and can't get it. "Why is chgrp associated with group execute access right 's' and newgrp associated with group execute access right 'x'?
[17:01] <silverarrow> I am really silverlightning, but I am fiddeling with two computers
[17:01] <JMOB54> compdoc: yeah, I'm familiar with that.  At this precise moment, I'm running the wubi ubuntu version, was trying to run the install from here, just for practice's sake.  Are you suggesting I'm better off going back to w7 and doing it from there?
[17:02] <Alexander> Sipior, what is it called?
[17:02] <Alexander> Hardware address?
[17:02] <cellis> I'm getting an error called "fatal: could not create work tree dir". how can I fix it?
[17:02] <JMOB54> (wubi-32 10.10 btw.)
[17:03] <sipior> Alexander: dunno, it's your router :-) what's the ip address of the machine you're running on now? (assuming it's not public, of course)
[17:03] <compdoc> JMOB54, isnt wubi something that runs within windows? I thought youre issue was not having a disc
[17:04] <enc> Hi, im having trouble unistalling a broken pstgresql, sudo apt-get remove postgresql  gives me an error: .: 22: Can't open /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions dpkg: error processing postgresql-8.4 (--configure): , any advice?
[17:04] <noob> IdleOne: Are ustill here?
[17:04] <Alexander> siprior, may I PM you?
[17:04] <compdoc> JMOB54, ah, I see from the wiki I dont know enough
[17:04] <IdleOne> noob: I am
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Alexander, sipior your router address can be found beside name erver in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:04] <BluesKaj> err nameserver
[17:04] <sipior> BluesKaj: no it can't.
[17:05] <sipior> BluesKaj: unless the router is configured for dns, which is not a sure bet.
[17:05] <compdoc> JMOB54, this is from the wiki:  You need to download the DESKTOP CD ISO of the appropriate version. Place the ISO in the same folder where you have wubi.exe and then run Wubi. For example, Wubi 10.10 requires the 10.10 DESKTOP ISO, available here.
[17:05] <BluesKaj> ok ,then where , because mine is
[17:05] <noob> IdleOne: can u stick around while I try this?
[17:05] <Alexander> sipior, so what should I do?
[17:05] <sipior> Alexander: just pm me, christ.
[17:05] <Alexander> Alright.
[17:05] <IdleOne> noob: sure thing, I'll be here most of the day and if I am not around someone else in the channel can probably help you also.
[17:06] <noob> IdleOne: thanx
[17:06] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: can i learn , what i taught in ubuntu classrooms,  if don't attend class,later somewhere on a website?
[17:07] <silverarrow> how do access settings to see grub messages during boot, in other words, turn off plymouth?
[17:08] <silverarrow> any grub clever people here?
[17:08] <dtcrshr> no
[17:08] <JMOB54> compdoc:   Thanks for your time; sorry if I'm being unclear.  w7 is on my HDD, running wubi from within.  I departitioned some space to put the full install on.  Don't have physical media from which to burn the disc prior to an install.  I could mount the disc in w7 (and do the autorun), but I was trying to do it from within ubuntu.  Mounting the .iso doesn't give me any clear indication of how to proceed
[17:08] <silverarrow> darn
[17:08] <dtcrshr> !grub
[17:08] <dtcrshr> !grub2
[17:08] <silverarrow> I am having issues booting
[17:09] <compdoc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[17:09] <silverarrow> grub is for 10.10 too?
[17:09] <noob> IdleOne: because im on the netbook with the problem, im need to leave but ill reconnect wit my other netbook, so ill see u in a min
[17:09] <IdleOne> okie dokie
[17:09] <stevecam> silverarrow, removing the splash and quiet option from grub.conf might help you see more information
[17:09] <silverarrow> grub  2
[17:10] <stevecam> i mean menu.lst
[17:10] <thauriswulfa>  QUESTION: can i learn , what is taught in ubuntu classrooms,  if i don't attend class,later somewhere on a website?
[17:10] <silverarrow> stevecam, I was told so by another guy here, but he didn't tell me how, and I found it difficult to access the boot setting options?
[17:11] <vish> thauriswulfa: there are logs of the classroom sessions
[17:11] <thauriswulfa> how to get those logs
[17:11] <stevecam> silverarrow, what sort of difficulty?
[17:11] <silverarrow> is Ubuntu a reliable os? trustworthy as  a work place ?
[17:11] <GeekMan> i have two keys on this ibook g4 an enter key and a return key with a fn enter how do i make it so enter isnt the same as return example: i want to change right click to be the enter key adn return stays the enter key
[17:12] <thauriswulfa> vish: how to get those logs
[17:12] <vish> thauriswulfa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom#Logs/Transcripts
[17:12] <thauriswulfa> vish:thanx
[17:12] <silverarrow> when I'm booting the pocess halts, stops before it finishes. It gets stuck in the ubuntu "tada" logo, and sometimes a white sceen only
[17:13] <stevecam> you should be able to modify the boot arguments at boot time
[17:14] <silverarrow> is this a rare touble?
[17:14] <silverarrow> like an F-key function?
[17:14] <silverarrow> hmm
[17:14] <GeekMan> silverarrow me?
[17:15] <silverarrow> happily GeekMan
[17:15] <JoseBravo> Hello
[17:15] <JMOB54> compdoc: This is a guide to install wubi, is it not?  Wubi is already installed.  I'm trying to migrate to a full, non-wubi installation.  (I'm having issues w/suspend-to-RAM, and want to troubleshoot them in a more "pure" environment).
[17:15] <JMOB54> Maybe we should ignore the wubi part.  My point more generally is: how does one install a copy of ubuntu from within ubuntu, onto a separate, dedicated partition?
[17:15] <GeekMan> no no i want to tell linux to stop looking at enter as retrun the two keys are on diffrent keycodes
[17:15] <noob> IdleOne: hey its me
[17:16] <trinity> ubuntu italiano
[17:16] <JoseBravo> Im trying to enter to my ubuntu in single mode, but the grub screen never appear. It just boot.. Any idea?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> sipior, I just reconfigured my router to autodns rebooted and resolv.conf has the router IP still listed as the same IP as before
[17:16] <cntb> hi
[17:16] <trinity> ubuntu italiano
[17:16] <sipior> BluesKaj: bully for you. go away.
[17:16] <ochozero9> does anyone know a free program that can simulate and produce a waveform from a design made in Quartus?
[17:16] <trinity> join /ubuntu-chat-it
[17:16] <trinity> ubuntu italiano
[17:16] <trinity> italian
[17:16] <juk> !it | trinity:
[17:17] <trinity> #ubuntu-it
[17:17] <JoseBravo> How can I enter to the grub menu list? In my installation the screen never appears.
[17:17] <GeekMan> silverarrow my key for right click is 87 in a emulation file i can change the code to enter (105) but i cant because linux wants that to be used as enter
[17:17] <cntb> have an oficejet6500 for some time http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?product=3795314&lc=es&cc=mx&dlc=es&lang=en&cc=mx
[17:17] <natschil_> Hello. Sorry if this may be offtopic, but in which channel should I ask about technical details regarding mobile phone protocols such as EVDO?
[17:18] <GeekMan> stupid apple keyboard
[17:18] <oCean> JoseBravo: ubuntu only os? In that case hold shift during boot
[17:18] <cntb> and want to print and hopefully scan from 10.10
[17:18] <silverarrow> weird geekman,
[17:18] <cntb> !printing
[17:18] <Roasted> Anybody use a sandisk mp3 player with rhythmbox? It's not picking up my onboard music. :(
[17:18] <GeekMan> how do i change the map
[17:18] <IdleOne> hello noob
[17:20] <JoseBravo> oCean, yes ubuntu is my only os, but the shift key under booting is not working.
[17:20] <silverarrow> GeekMan, have you tried the geneal ##linux forum? sometimes there are some clever guys there
[17:20] <silverarrow> it sounded very intricat
[17:20] <GeekMan> will see
[17:22] <oCean> JoseBravo: in that case I have no idea. Normally holding shift brings you into the grub menu
[17:22] <JoseBravo> oCean, thank you.
[17:23] <brverg> hi.. anyone here familiar with Gnome Media Player Client? (GMPC)
[17:23] <Gimli> hello
[17:23] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, is it me or is the conduct here becoming nastier and ruder than before ?
[17:23] <polinesian> Olá alguém teria a lista de pacotes Apache/PHP/MySQL para serem instalados no Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop para que possa compilar o APC corretamente ?
[17:23] <Gimli> how can i make a copy of contents of dvds but with all empty files ?
[17:23] <silverarrow> polinesian: do you speak English?
[17:24] <brverg> hi.. anyone here familiar with Gnome Media Player Client? (GMPC)
[17:24] <polinesian> So So Silvera but I Understand in Writing mode
[17:24] <enc> Why do i get this error: E: Unable to locate package postgrsql-common if it type : sudo apt-get install postgrsql-common
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !br | polinesian
[17:24] <silverarrow> which commands to access grub messages during booting?
[17:25] <juk> !info postgrsql-common
[17:25] <juk> !info postgersql-common
[17:25] <juk> !info postgresql-common
[17:26] <polinesian> Ok ubottu é a primeira vez que uso IRC tenho que descobrir como funciona o XChat
[17:26] <IdleOne> enc: postgresql-common as juk just showed us up there
[17:26] <JoseBravo> Some body can help me, Im trying to boot my ubuntu in a single mode because I lost the password. But apparently my grub have the hiddenmenu option enabled. Im trying to access to the menu list holding the shift key I also tried with the esc key but dosn't work. Any idea?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> polinesian, ubottu is a botscript
[17:27] <Roasted> Anybody use a sandisk mp3 player with rhythmbox? It's not picking up my onboard music. :(
[17:27] <IdleOne> !br | polinesian
[17:27] <Gimli> anyone knows how to make a mirror with an empty structure ?
[17:27] <enc> juk, -bash: !info: event not found
[17:27] <juk> enc: what?
[17:27] <IdleOne> enc: sudo apt-get install postgresql-common
[17:28] <IdleOne> enc: you had the package name wrong
[17:29] <Roasted> What do I do if Rhythmbox is not picking up ANY of my music on my sansa mp3 player? Banshee picks it up fine, but Banshee doesn't work with playlists whereas rhythmbox (in the past) has....
[17:29] <klj613-> any good web dev ide for ubuntu? with sftp support?
[17:29] <Aikar> klj613-: netbeans, aptana
[17:29] <Aikar> klj613-: netbeans is alot faster, but aptana has some better features, no ide is perfect
[17:29] <IdleOne> Roasted: what do you mean banshee doesn't work with playlists?
[17:30] <klj613-> Aikar: ty :)
[17:30] <Aikar> klj613-: also theres geany for lightweight and basic
[17:30] <Roasted> IdleOne, when I create a playlist in banshee, it doesn't show up on my sansa.
[17:30] <Roasted> IdleOne, banshee seems to work fine, but my mp3 player just never receives the playlist, it seems. rhythmbox works though.
[17:30] <klj613-> thanks
[17:30] <IdleOne> Roasted: hmm, got no clue what to tell you in that case
[17:30] <xwin> my grandma gave me brand new HP Pavilion DV7 with Windows 7, I wanna co-boot with Linux. What's latest for 64-bit Ubuntu ?
[17:31] <Roasted> IdleOne, yeah, I'm a little lost here. I thought this stuff worked without a hitch. :(
[17:31] <Aikar> kloeri: on my workdesktop right now i have Geany, GEdit, Netbeans, UltraEdit and Aptana across my panel lol
[17:31] <enc> IdleOne, apt-get -f install retuned this: update-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/share/postgresql/8.4/man/man1/postmaster.1.gz doesn't exist. dpkg: error processing postgresql-8.4 (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[17:31] <sss> How do I install LAMP?
[17:31] <llutz> !lamp | sss
[17:32] <IdleOne> enc: no clue, I was just giving you the command to install with the correct name
[17:32] <enc> sss, sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[17:32] <sss> llutz, thanks
[17:34] <shachaf> Hmm. libnotify notifications seems to have stopped appearing entirely. Is there a common reason for that?
[17:34] <Arvid-> reason? its linux...
[17:35] <Roasted> IdleOne, I'm giving banshee another go-around, but I'm having trouble creating a playlist. I only have export options. Anything come to mind by chance?
[17:35] <shachaf> Arvid-: ?
[17:35] <juk> shachaf: *common* reason?
[17:35] <IdleOne> Roasted: none sorry. I don't have an mp3 player either to test with
[17:35] <shachaf> juk: Well, OK. Any reason? :-)
[17:36] <Senjai> Que pasa! todos las persones!
[17:36] <IdleOne> !es > Senjai
[17:36] <bencc> how do I run a script as some other user?
[17:36] <Senjai> I dont speak spanish
[17:36] <Senjai> lol
[17:36] <enc> What does this error mean: Setting up postgresql-8.4 (8.4.7-0ubuntu0.10.10) ... update-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/share/postgresql/8.4/man/man1/postmaster.1.gz doesn't exist.
[17:36] <IdleOne> Senjai: ok don't be offtopic in here please
[17:37] <Senjai> IdleOne, I just said hi. Calm.
[17:37] <IdleOne> Senjai: I just asked you not to be offtopic. Chill.
[17:37] <Godslastering> Am i the only one that notices slow page loads (and i guess DNS resolving) in ubuntu 10.10? it happens in chrome and firefox, desktop and netbook edition, wired and wireless. it doesn't happen in windows.
[17:37] <Senjai> Godslastering, have you tried it on multiple networks/
[17:37] <Odaym> not here, Godslastering
[17:38] <sipior> bencc: try "sudo -u <username> ..."
[17:38] <Odaym> blazingly fast
[17:38] <Godslastering> Senjai: yes, it's ubuntu 10.10 that's causing the issue. windows works just fine, and on different networks i get the same situation (ubuntu slow, windows fast)
[17:38] <Odaym> well, depends on how my connection is feeling though
[17:39] <halabund> i tried to install ubuntu 10.04.1. Now the computer won't boot, it just says "grub: no such partition".  Before I tried to install 10.10.  It says "grub: out of disk".  Apparently nothing that uses grub2 will work on my computer.  (Older versions that used grub worked).  What can I do?  I got really tired trying to figure it out, and each try takes one reboot then one boot with the live CD, which is ~10-15 minutes in total.  A comp
[17:39] <Senjai> Godslastering, 10.10 does have some issues
[17:39] <Chelsea> Hi all... ^-Z in Gvim doesnt' drop to shell in 10.10. Is that normal?
[17:39] <bencc> sipior:  weird. running with -u and actually switching to that user isn't the same
[17:39] <bencc> sipior:  not sure why
[17:39] <Godslastering> Senjai: is there anything that you can recommend to fix it?
[17:39] <Senjai> Godslastering, its usually with the connection, as in disconnecting and connecting, but not usually with speed on a stable connection
[17:39] <Senjai> Godslastering, Check out the wifi page?
[17:39] <sipior> bencc: differing environmental variables.
[17:39] <Senjai> !wifi | Godslastering
[17:40] <Odaym> personally I have not met with these issues
[17:40] <Senjai> Odaym, Godslastering, neither have I but 10.10 is picky about wireless cards
[17:40] <Odaym> everything is fine on all 3 pc's and on SSH access and etc..
[17:40] <Odaym> yes, THAT is true
[17:40] <Godslastering> Senjai: no, with wired i still get the same issue. it's ubuntu10.10 itself. ( i didn't have the issue with previous version )
[17:40] <Odaym> been trying for a year to configure my D-Link; nothing
[17:40] <Senjai> Godslastering, The ethernet and wireless card is usually the same on modern pc's
[17:40] <Odaym> even with NDSWrapper
[17:41] <Senjai> Godslastering, then it probably is 10.10
[17:41] <Godslastering> Senjai: i'm referring to seperate computers. one is wired desktop, one is wireless netbook. same issue on both
[17:41] <Godslastering> Senjai: and yes, it's 10.10 that's the issue i've assumed. so, any way to fix it?
[17:41] <polinesian> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^   don't forget the ^ at the end
[17:41] <halabund> i tried to install ubuntu 10.04.1. Now the computer won't boot, it just says "grub: no such partition".  Before I tried to install 10.10.  It says "grub: out of disk".  Apparently nothing that uses grub2 will work on my computer.  (Older versions that used grub worked).  What can I do?  I got really tired trying to figure it out, and each try takes one reboot then one boot with the live CD, which is ~10-15 minutes in total.  A comp
[17:41] <Senjai> Godslastering, I have not met with these issues, perhaps it's your router?
[17:41] <bencc> sipior: is there a way to really run like a different user?
[17:41] <Godslastering> Senjai: no, as i've said, windows works just fine, as iOS devices
[17:42] <Senjai> Godslastering, there might be an error in your Ubuntu configuration, or you might have a firewall installed that might be filtering traffic inefficiently?
[17:42] <Godslastering> Senjai: just a plain old default 10.10 install does the same thing (wired or wireless, doesn't matter. on diffrent networks, same issue)
[17:43] <Senjai> Godslastering, there is little I can do, I'm just throwing hypotheses, this is a question best asked on the forums or looked at the 10.10 wifi troubleshooting page (it applies to ethernet too)
[17:43] <sipior> bencc: you can open up a login shell as the other user with "sudo -i -u <username>", and then launch your script.
[17:43] <Senjai> Godslastering, run ifconfig, tell me what you see. Paste it at pastebin.com
[17:43] <szymon_> Hej
[17:44] <josex> hi
[17:44] <Godslastering> Senjai: http://pastebin.com/3rS6ysM3
[17:44] <switch10_> I am trying to change the drive label of my phone, USB, FAT32.  I am using mlabel like so:  sudo mlabel -i /dev/sdc1 ::phone
[17:44] <sipior> bencc: or just specify a login script in the initial line, i suppose. best to set important environmental variables explicitly anyway.
[17:44] <sss> I just installed LAMP. html files works fine, but it doesn't process php files, it would just give the php file as is for download
[17:45] <Senjai> Godslastering, run: ping google.com -c 5
[17:45] <Senjai> Godslastering, whats your average ms?
[17:45] <switch10_> i get no such file or directory cannot initialize '::'
[17:45] <Senjai> Godslastering, note -c 5 is important, otherwise it pings forever
[17:45] <Godslastering> Senjai:
[17:45] <Godslastering> oops
[17:45] <Godslastering> Senjai: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 58.055/74.141/100.775/15.086 ms
[17:45] <llutz> switch10_: escape the : or use "::phone"
[17:45] <bencc> sipior: thanks, I'll try both
[17:46] <switch10_> llutz: ahh  thank you.
[17:46] <Senjai> 74 is .. crappy, but not horrible
[17:46] <Senjai> Godslastering, It shouldnt be unusable
[17:46] <Godslastering> Senjai: ok, but when i open chrome for example, and if i go to, say, en.wikipedia.org, it takes about 10 seconds to load. windows takes nearly no time at all.
[17:46] <Senjai> Godslastering, is your router IP address 192.168.1.1?
[17:46] <Godslastering> Senjai: yes
[17:47] <Senjai> Godslastering, ping your router, using -c 5 at the end, if its > than 2ms we have an issue :)
[17:47] <sipior> Godslastering: try running "dig en.wikipedia.org" in a terminal, and look for the value "Query time".
[17:47] <FrankBro> Can konversation join multiple server at once?
[17:47] <Godslastering> Senjai: no response
[17:47] <switch10_> llutz: it cant find /dev/sdc1 for some reason.
[17:48] <Godslastering> 299 msec query time for dig, sipior
[17:48] <Senjai> Godslastering, your router isn't responding to pings?
[17:48] <Godslastering> Senjai: no
[17:48] <Senjai> Godslastering, OOPS, don't do that on ethernet, do it on the wifi connected one
[17:48] <llutz> switch10_: sudo fdisk -l
[17:48] <stan77> hi all. i am running x11vnc on ubuntu 10.04. my understanding is that x11vnc should default to display :0 on port 5900. although i have no idea what changed cause it used to work, but now it opens display :1 on port 5901. i vnc to my router anf then that port forwards to 192.168.0.100, this machine. if i use 5901 it connects to a different machine on the network thats not even set up in port forwading. that machine is 192.168.0.101. i have been tr
[17:48] <ohsix> derp
[17:48] <pancakez> I'm trying to setup a samba share.  I can create/delete files on it in nautilus.  but terminal gives me "Permission denied" unless I do it as root.  Anybody have any ideas?
[17:49] <Senjai> stan77, I'm confuzzled lol
[17:49] <stan77> sorry, its confusing me too *eek*
[17:49] <Godslastering> Senjai: from the wifi one, ping -c 5 192.168.2.1 is rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.696/2.186/3.338/0.669 ms
[17:49] <matt____> Godslastering: Senjai I wonder if it could have something to do with IPV6 vs IPV4? Because when I used to have Bellsouth DSL, on Windows page loads were instant, but when I was getting started with linux (almost dettered me away), Ubuntu 6.06 took nearly 10-20 seconds to load a page. It was because it was trying to use IPV6 but Bellsouth didn't understand, after Ubuntu timed out on IPV6 it went to IPV4 and worked ok. It did this for ev
[17:49] <Senjai> pancakez, I dont know what samba is, but if it has to do with folder access, sounds like you need to chmod your folders
[17:49] <halabund> hi.  tried to install 10.04, dual boot with winxp.  now computer won't boot, i get "grub: no such partition".  what can I do?
[17:49] <wonderwal-> ubuntu 10.0.4 lts, which kernel does it come with?
[17:49] <Godslastering> matt____: that seems to be the exact issue
[17:50] <Godslastering> matt____: windows is instantaneous, ubuntu10.10 is gaggishly slow
[17:50] <Pici> !info linux lucid | wonderwal-
[17:50] <silverarrow> I think my ubuntu is unstable
[17:50] <Senjai> matt____, good point, Godslastering are you using IPV6?
[17:50] <wonderwal-> Pici: upgrading to 2.6.35 possible? says it has 2.6.32
[17:50] <Godslastering> Senjai: not that i know of, but that sounds like what's happening. it may be doing that. is there a way to 'disable' ipv6 and try to see if speed increases?
[17:50] <puck_> Hello everyone have serious issues with a drink mini USB card on ubuntu 10.10,  the connection keeps going on and off, its really annoying ... On top of it all, i cannot configure it as a 802.11 n, which is its model , thanks for the help
[17:50] <warpi> hello! is it possible to disable the "user access management" of an shared disk. because, the access rights really gets messed up when different users creates files etc....
[17:50] <juk> Godslastering: maybe you have cached it on windows, who knows
[17:50] <Pici> wonderwal-: It won't be supported, but you're free to try to find an alternate repo.
[17:50] <puck_> sorry d-link
[17:50] <Senjai> juk, that definitely isnt the problem
[17:51] <matt____> Godslastering: Try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595677
[17:51] <Senjai> matt____, way to be epic
[17:51] <matt____> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local
[17:51] <juk> Senjai: im not looking for problems, bro...
[17:51] <klj613-> Aikar: 'new project' in netbeans doesnt have category PHP. so i went to try aptana and only tutorials i find to install that is from the binary, and only release i can download is a zip with the file >.< any other suggestions?
[17:51] <Godslastering> matt____: that lsmod | grep ipv6 claims to not return anything, so, i'd say it's not loaded?
[17:51] <pancakez> Sanjai, samba is basically file sharing over different computers,  I'm already the owner of the files, and have read/write rights, it works in nautlus, just not terminal.
[17:52] <Aikar> klj613-: it does have PHP support, did you download the PHP edition or the Java Edition lol?
[17:52] <Senjai> juk, No worries, I'm just saying a cache does not effect overall net connectivity
[17:52] <Aikar> and klj613- you extract aptana then simply ./aptana (or make a shortcut to it on panel)
[17:52] <matt____> Godslastering: Senjai Well if it isn't loaded then I don't know...I'd still try adding blacklist ipv6 to your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local
[17:52] <Senjai> Godslastering, follow the link matt____ sent
[17:52] <klj613-> Aikar: i used terminal to install it. k
[17:52] <Aikar> klj613-: theres diff editions of netbeans, ensure you got PHP
[17:52] <Godslastering> Senjai, matt____ thanks, i disabled it, i'm going to restart and see if it helps
[17:53] <Aikar> i dont know what apt-get will install for netbeans
[17:53] <Senjai> Godslastering, let us know :)
[17:53] <Aikar> klj613-: you also can install the PHP module from inside netbeans
[17:53] <Odaym> that's true
[17:53] <Aikar> just php edition wont have all the java crap
[17:53] <ohsix> sipior: route, default -> gateway, it might not be your router still,  but in most scenarios it is
[17:53] <klj613-> ok. well nothing returned on google for that so guees i have to guees around the gui. thanks anyway
[17:53] <sipior> ohsix: beg pardon?
[17:53] <Senjai> matt____, the IPV6 theory sounds very plausable, my router at home doesn't support it, neither does my ISP
[17:54] <Binary_Wolf> hi
[17:54] <Aikar> klj613-: netbeans.org i think? download, extract, go to terminal and sudo ./netbeans and itll run the installer and install it
[17:54] <sipior> ohsix: oh, you're referring to the other guy. yes, /sbin/route -n is the easiest method, in most cases.
[17:55] <Binary_Wolf> is it possible to change gdm.conf so that the system would notice the changes? like gui configuartions
[17:56] <switch10_> llutz: here is the entry in fdisk with the disk mounted.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/570166/
[17:56] <Odaym> about the Bitnami Wordpress stack, here i see that it includes "apache2" "mysql" and "php" amongst other things, I can now consider that I HAVE these installed on my system and i can just open MySQL and use? http://imgur.com/SeJAP
[17:56] <switch10_> llutz: I have been unmounting it before I change the label
[17:56] <ohsix> Godslastering: do you have dnsmasq installed?
[17:57] <Senjai> Odaym, It should configure for you, though I reccomend installing the pieces seperately, I just don't trust combined packages like that for a webserver that could potentially allow someone access to your computer
[17:57] <llutz> switch10_: that looks like a disk in superfloppy-format, using the raw-device without partitions
[17:57] <Senjai> Odaym, installing Apache, then PHP, then MySQL, and finally wordpress isn't that hard
[17:57] <Odaym> not a webserver though, Senjai, just want to open MySQL for my Database Systems course
[17:57] <biswajit> my mother board is msi k8mm-v, when i use ubuntu 7.04 its graphics is fine resolution is max 1024x768 but when ubuntu 10.10 installed its resolution is max 800x600
[17:57] <biswajit> pls help
[17:57] <Odaym> but the stack is very easy Senjai and it came like that
[17:58] <Senjai> Odaym, fare enough, type mysql in console
[17:58] <Senjai> Odaym should work
[17:58] <Odaym> hmm
[17:58] <Senjai> Odaym, mysql -u root -p
[17:58] <Odaym> it's a service?
[17:58] <Senjai> make sure you know your root password
[17:58] <Senjai> yes
[17:58] <Odaym> oh :)
[17:58] <wonderwal-> Pici: i read linux 2.6.35 is available for lucid though
[17:58] <Odaym> thanks
[17:58] <Senjai> the password you set for mysql that is, not your root root password
[17:58] <juk> Odaym: why bother with password, use sqlite
[17:58] <Pici> wonderwal-: If you're referring to the 'article' on ogmubuntu, its wrong.
[17:58] <ohsix> sipior: ah i thought you had asked, didn't read it all
[17:58] <Odaym> my root password? because here it says that the password for 'root' on MySQL is the same as my WordPress administrative password
[17:58] <wonderwal-> Pici: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/kernel-2-6-35-officially-available-for-ubuntu-10-04.html
[17:58] <Godslastering> ohsix: no, i don't.
[17:58] <Odaym> i will try that
[17:58] <Odaym> ok
[17:59] <biswajit> hello any body can help me
[17:59] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[17:59] <Senjai> Odaym, then use that, sqlite, is a different form, but mysql is probably better for a course on the topic, it is the most widely used
[17:59] <ohsix> Godslastering: can you post the output of ifconfig to a pastebin
[17:59] <switch10_> llutz: do you recommend I just reformat then?
[17:59] <Klaus_Dieter> how do I set the language permanently in the text console?
[17:59] <Odaym> "service mysql status" produces "mysql: service unrecognized", Senjai
[17:59] <Senjai> Odaym, and it is most compatible with everything these days
[17:59] <Godslastering> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/3rS6ysM3
[17:59] <Senjai> Odaym, apt-cache policy mysql
[18:00] <Odaym> nope
[18:00] <Pici> wonderwal-: Its still wrong.  Perhaps you should take a look at some of the comments on that page.
[18:00] <Odaym> nothing
[18:00] <Odaym> guess it just placed that folder there
[18:00] <Senjai> sorry
[18:00] <Senjai> apt-cache search mysql-server-5.1
[18:00] <Senjai> err!
[18:00] <Senjai> policy not search
[18:00] <Odaym> yea that's there
[18:00] <Senjai> it's installed?
[18:01] <Odaym> yea, the one you mentioned along with mysql-cluster-server and mysql-server
[18:01] <Senjai> Odaym, if its installed policy should say something like:
[18:01] <Senjai> Installed: 5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1
[18:01] <Senjai>   Candidate: 5.1.49-1ubuntu8.1
[18:01] <wonderwal-> Pici: thank you. do you know where i could get a 2.6.35 deb  from then that will work with lucid?
[18:01] <avis-> i need to start a sudo openvpn filename.opvn as a system service i had turned it into a init script and sudo update-rc.d after sudo chmod +x and it worked great till i got rid of network manager and swapped between eth0 and eth1
[18:01] <Odaym> it does when i say "apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.1"
[18:01] <avis-> i got rid of network manager and swapped between eth0 and eth1
[18:01] <Odaym> but not when i say "apt-cache policy mysql"
[18:02] <avis-> that would be in my interfaces file
[18:02] <derf_> i want to try out unity. i have 10.10 installed. which unity do i want? there is 2D 3D and netbook remix to get it.   i don't get the difference.
[18:02] <Godslastering> Senjai: matt____ it didn't seem to help any
[18:02] <Odaym> so now i start it using "mysql-server-5.1 -u root -p"?
[18:02] <avis-> i tried link aggregation and openvpn as a system init script, that failed, what would only work was eth1.
[18:02] <Senjai> Odaym, install mysql-clien
[18:03] <Senjai> Odaym, sudo apt-get install mysql-client-5.1
[18:03] <Odaym> but that one is there
[18:03] <Senjai> and the mysql command doesn't work?
[18:03] <enc> How can i tell what version of ubuntu is my server running on 32 or 64 bit?
[18:03] <matt____> Senjai: Godslastering Wel IPV6 is my best guess....as obviouisly the hardware works fine in Windows, either IPV6 or a driver issue, which for the most part I've always found the linux drivers for hardware better than windows
[18:03] <enc> !version
[18:03] <Odaym> Senjai, it produces "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[18:03] <ZykoticK9> enc, uname -a
[18:03] <derf_> enc type uname -a    into a terminal.
[18:03] <Klaus_Dieter> enc:  uname -a
[18:03] <Senjai> matt____, Godslastering, I suggest a post on the forum. for experts to review
[18:04] <Senjai> Odaym, then the server isn't running
[18:04] <ohsix> Godslastering: does ping6 mango.itojun.org return unknown host
[18:04] <Senjai> Odaym, one second
[18:04] <Odaym> ok
[18:04] <Godslastering> ohsix: connect: Network is unreachable
[18:04] <enc> Klaus_Dieter, thank you
[18:04] <Senjai> Odaym, try: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[18:04] <ohsix> Godslastering: it probably has something to do with it; sec
[18:04] <neil_________> ;
[18:05] <Odaym> sudo command not found
[18:05] <Senjai> Godslastering, ohsix is god of help :P
[18:05] <Odaym> and after i remove sudo it says no such file or directory
[18:05] <Godslastering> Senjai: that's good :p
[18:05] <Senjai> Odaym, how the hell is it installed then, you said you saw it in a folder
[18:05] <avis-> when i boot i get some error about my kernel missing a modules "-dep" file thats despite me switching to a server kernel which i'm happy to have done
[18:06] <Senjai> Odaym, navigate to the folder that the stack installed it to, and look for a mysql executable
[18:06] <Senjai> Odaym, this is why I reccomend installing the pieces lol, because now, its configured just for one application, if you want to use it for anything else its not in the proper location, and other programs get screwed when you want mysql. (programs use SQL too not just web servers :P)
[18:07] <Odaym> FLARN!
[18:07] <Odaym> how to fix?
[18:07] <Senjai> Odaym, try: locate mysql (though you may get a long list
[18:07] <Odaym> yea
[18:07] <Odaym> long list
[18:07] <Senjai> Odaym, uninstall the whole package, and make sure everything is purged, and just install mysql
[18:07] <Senjai> Odaym, try to find the executable
[18:07] <ohsix> Godslastering: theres no simple way to disable ipv6 in chrome to check, but firefox has network.dns.disableIPv6, you can try it with it on and off and see if it goes away
[18:08] <Godslastering> ohsix: i have that disabled and am still getting the issue
[18:08] <Odaym> i grepped, and there are 3 files with "exec.sh" at the end of them
[18:08] <JMOB0909873> Hi, possibly silly question: how would one place a fresh install of ubuntu onto a separate partition from within ubuntu?  Have some unpartitioned space, an .iso of 64-bit Maverick, and am currently running from a 32-bit wubi maverick).  Can this be done w/o external media (I have no discs available to burn)?
[18:08] <Senjai> Godslastering, you have it disabled in firefox? in about:config?
[18:08] <Godslastering> Senjai: yes
[18:08] <Odaym> in Software Center it says MySQL Client installed
[18:08] <Senjai> Odaym, its not a shell script, its just named "mysql" no .sh no . anything
[18:09] <avis-> JMOB0909873, i heard grub2 supported booting iso files
[18:09] <Senjai> Odaym, for simplicity, I suggest removing everything, (the lamp/wordpress server you installed first, then make sure all of the mysql components are removed)
[18:09] <ohsix> Godslastering: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[18:09] <juk> avis-: link?
[18:09] <Klaus_Dieter> well, I just installed natty but there is no package localeconf available - what can I do to set the keyboard layout on console?
[18:09] <Senjai> Odaym, then use sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean to make sure its all tidy
[18:09] <slashroot> Anyone know how to get sketchup working with wine?
[18:09] <avis-> don't have one.  read it on http://linuxhomepage.com its a very nice linux news portal
[18:10] <Senjai> then install the mysql packages seperately
[18:10] <Odaym> how do i uninstall, from the command line?
[18:10] <juk> slashroot: /j #wine
[18:10] <Macstheyjustsuck> Can someone give me the command in the terminal to install Java?
[18:10] <Senjai> Odaym, apt-get purge (application)
[18:10] <Senjai> Macstheyjustsuck, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[18:10] <caio> klçççkll
[18:10] <Macstheyjustsuck> All I can find are sudo aptitude install, but I can't type aptitude, I have to apt-get and then it says it's not there
[18:10] <caio> jkhkgk
[18:10] <caio> khgghkgh
[18:11] <Macstheyjustsuck> Senjai: I love you.
[18:11] <Odaym> ok it says purged..
[18:11] <Odaym> but all the files are still there
[18:11] <Odaym> i use autoremove and autoclean?
[18:11] <Senjai> Macstheyjustsuck, love you too :) its just the runtime though
[18:11] <ohsix> Godslastering: if your router is sending RA's but doesn't have a route to ipv6 it should be fixed/disabled there if you can
[18:11] <Senjai> Odaym, yes
[18:11] <Macstheyjustsuck> Senjai: I got the JDK already
[18:11] <Senjai> Odaym, did you remove that wordpress package thing?
[18:11] <Jetpack> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my desktop, in that any sudo command will just pause as soon as I enter it, and refuses to ever ask for my password, or ctrl+c cancel
[18:11] <Godslastering> ohsix: i just looked through my router and didn't see anything related to ipv6 at all
[18:11] <Odaym> yes that was the only thing i did with purge
[18:11] <ohsix> Godslastering: for shame
[18:12] <Odaym> tried to purge mysql after it, says not found
[18:12] <Senjai> Odaym, great, do autoclean, and autoremove, then verify uninstall with apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.1
[18:12] <Odaym> Removing kernel?!
[18:12] <Odaym> just kidding :)
[18:12] <ohsix> Godslastering: RA's might not even be coming from your router; you can listen for them with tcpdump, it won't solve your problem but you might be able to fix the thing after you force it off in ubuntu
[18:12] <Kaio> oi
[18:12] <Odaym> ok
[18:13] <Jetpack> recovery mode works fine
[18:13] <Odaym> though files are still there
[18:13] <Odaym> in their entirety
[18:13] <Macstheyjustsuck> Ok, now another problem: My PSP used to show up when I plugged it into the computer, now it doesn't. I've confirmed that the USB ports are working and I've tried separate ones, now it just shows up in "Computer" but won't let me go into it and it's not on the Desktop like it was when it worked
[18:13] <Hedgehog456> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu on my laptop, but the CD I made won't boot.
[18:13] <Odaym> oh there's an uninstall executable in the files
[18:13] <Kaio> como vai você
[18:13] <Odaym> im doing it
[18:13] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, set the boot order in your BIOS so CD boots before harddrive
[18:14] <Hedgehog456> I'm booting from the CD
[18:14] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: if you open the cd in windows, what files do you see?
[18:14] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, and then?
[18:14] <Hedgehog456> Nothing
[18:14] <Hedgehog456> No files
[18:14] <Kaio> kk
[18:14] <Kaio> oi
[18:14] <Godslastering> ohsix: i'm going to attempt a reboot and i'll tell you if it helps
[18:14] <Odaym> ok, now it is clean
[18:14] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, then it has nothing on it :P
[18:14] <Jetpack> Also: chrome refuses to start up, and wicd (when I had it installed) was freezing.
[18:14] <Odaym> now i do...sudo apt-get install mysql!
[18:14] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: you didn't read what I said. fail.
[18:14] <JMOB0909873> avis-, so does that mean I need to direct grub2 to the .iso file and restart?
[18:14] <Kaio> oo9i
[18:14] <Senjai> Odaym, okay install the following: mysql-server-5.1 mysql-client-5.1 mysqladmin
[18:15] <Hedgehog456> Well, my computer has always never shown the files on bootable live cds. but they worked.
[18:15] <Senjai> Odaym, that should install everything else (because everything else is a dependancy)
[18:15] <Hedgehog456> It was the same with FreeBSD.
[18:15] <Jetpack> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my desktop, in that any sudo command will just pause as soon as I enter it, and refuses to ever ask for my password, or ctrl+c cancel
[18:15] <Kaio> é verdade
[18:15] <Kaio> eu não sei falar ingles
[18:15] <Senjai> Odaym, install the server first
[18:15] <Odaym> yep
[18:16] <Senjai> Odaym, mysqladmin is optional, but it makes your life UBER easy.
[18:16] <JMOB0909873> avis: thanks.  Does that mean I need to direct grub2 to the .iso and then restart?
[18:16] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: no, you ought to be able to open the disc and see files on the disk. Try it and see what happens, don't want to know what you've done in the past.
[18:16] <Odaym> and what is phpmyadmin, Senjai?
[18:16] <Senjai> Odaym, if it works correctly, during the mysql server install, you should be asked to set up a user account for your server
[18:16] <Hedgehog456> ok, i'll try on this pc
[18:17] <Senjai> Odaym, it is a mysql administration tool that runs on a webserver that is php enabled, if you want you can run it on an apache server,\
[18:17] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: you'll either see one file or a bunch of files and directories - need to know which it is that you see. 'nothing' won't cut it.
[18:17] <Odaym> ok
[18:17] <motaka2> >	When I get phpinf() , it tells me Configuration File (php.ini) Path is /usr/local/lib but when I ls- al /usr/local/lib , php.ini is not there , so from where I can Find my php.ini file ?
[18:18] <Gnea> motaka2: open a terminal and type:  locate php.ini
[18:18] <Hedgehog456> when i looked at from my laptop, windows reported no files.
[18:18] <Hedgehog456> i burned the iso onto the cd.
[18:18] <g_0_0> Godslastering, is your problem a slow internet connection?
[18:18] <cgkades> Odaym: find / -name php.ini
[18:18] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: well, then you didn't burn the iso correctly, because 'exploring' the disk ought to show files
[18:18] <Godslastering> g_0_0: yes
[18:18] <sss> I installed LAMP. Where is phpmyadmin?
[18:18] <Odaym> not me who asked, cgkades
[18:18] <Senjai> Odaym, mysqladmin should suffice, I dont have time to show you how to set up the apache server, mostly you just download apache2, instal the libmysql mod, install php, install the php mod.
[18:18] <Hedgehog456> my computer on this pc has crashed.
[18:19] <Jetpack> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my desktop, in that any sudo command in the terminal will just pause as soon as I enter it, and refuses to ever ask for my password, or ctrl+c cancel.
[18:19] <Gnea> sss: install it separately
[18:19] <Senjai> sss, default, localhost/phpmyadmin
[18:19] <cgkades> motaka2: find / -name php.ini
[18:19] <Odaym> thank you very much for this help Senjai, always been helpful
[18:19] <ohsix> um
[18:19] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: all of a sudden?
[18:19] <cgkades> Odaym: sorry, scrolled at just the right moment ;)
[18:19] <Hedgehog456> yes
[18:19] <Senjai> Odaym, anytime, has it installed?
[18:19] <Odaym> still working
[18:19] <MichaelDeaton_> Hello everyone. I wanted to know if anyone could possibly help me?
[18:19] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: did it blue screen?
[18:19] <Hedgehog456> no
[18:19] <Senjai> !ask | MichaelDeaton_
[18:19] <Hedgehog456> just not responding
[18:19] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: that's unfortunate.
[18:20] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, can you elaborate?
[18:20] <ohsix> dpkg -L php5 will show if it comes with it, i don't think it does
[18:20] <Odaym> it's asking me for the account now, ok :)
[18:20] <Senjai> Odaym, we're not done, after that install hte client and mysqladmin, Ill stick around to make sure its working for you
[18:20] <g_0_0> Godslastering, are you running torrent software, as you're upload was over 3GB for a download of 130MB
[18:20] <rush_> exit
[18:20] <Hedgehog456> My Ubuntu install CD won't boot, and when I put it in this PC, it crashes Window Explorer.
[18:20] <bullgard> Why do hostid and gethostip print the current IP address in differnt format?
[18:21] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: then it's not an ubuntu livecd, it's something else. you'll need to generate a proper cd.
[18:21] <Godslastering> g_0_0: i uploaded a few iso's over the network to another computer
[18:21] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, did you order the CD?
[18:21] <bullgard> s/differnt/different/
[18:21] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, or did you make it?
[18:21] <Odaym> why do I keep seeing lubuntu everywhere... I'm not on Lubuntu
[18:21] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: or use a USB thumbdrive
[18:21] <Godslastering> g_0_0: that's not external WAN data, it's just going over the lan
[18:21] <Hedgehog456> no, i got it and burned the ubuntu install iso
[18:21] <JoshDreamland> I have a Sony VAIO. Can anyone help me get screen brightness controls working?
[18:21] <g_0_0> Godslastering, ah ok
[18:21] <Senjai> Hedgehog456, Gnea, the USB way of installing is best, in my opinion
[18:21] <Jetpack> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my desktop, in that any sudo command in the terminal will just pause as soon as I enter it, and refuses to ever ask for my password, or ctrl+c cancel.
[18:21] <MichaelDeaton_> Intel Pocket PC Cam CS630
[18:22] <bullgard> !lubuntu | Odaym
[18:22] <Odaym> it says unable to locate "mysqladmin", Senjai
[18:22] <Hedgehog456> My only pen drive has my backup files on it.
[18:22] <Gnea> Senjai: it can be problematic, but it might work
[18:22] <Godslastering> matt____ Senjai and ohsix, it seems to have fixed it by doing the disable_ra thing in /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:22] <JoshDreamland> Presently, the keyboard brightness fn keys don't respond, and the sliders in the Power Management dialog and screen brightness app don't work.
[18:22] <Senjai> Odaym, okay have you installed the client though?
[18:22] <ohsix> Godslastering: yay
[18:22] <Hedgehog456> But i'll try something else..
[18:22] <Odaym> when i tried, it says already exists as latest version
[18:22] <ohsix> Godslastering: the red flag was the ipv6 address on the interface
[18:22] <MichaelDeaton_> How do I get my Intel Pocket PC Cam CS630 to work with Ubuntu 10.10
[18:22] <juk> ohsix: yes, php5 contains just /usr/share/doc/php5
[18:22] <MichaelDeaton_> How do I get my Intel Pocket PC Cam CS630 to work with Ubuntu 10.10?
[18:23] <Godslastering> ohsix: pesky little problem though, because i'm not sure where the issue is arising from. is my router actually creating the issue?
[18:23] <erUSUL> !webcam
[18:23] <Senjai> Okay Odaym, I think the default username for mssql is root, so type mysql -u root -p
[18:23] <ohsix> juk: it's probably in -common then, or something; but the path can be fine and the file empty or nonexistant
[18:23] <Odaym> ok i'm at the prompt
[18:23] <Odaym> but how do i get that usual interface of mysql?
[18:23] <Senjai> Odaym, does it ask you for a password?
[18:23] <Odaym> yep
[18:24] <Senjai> Odaym, can you login?
[18:24] <Odaym> im there i entered it
[18:24] <Odaym> yea
[18:24] <Odaym> but still at the shell
[18:24] <Senjai> Odaym, great, babysteps
[18:24] <ohsix> Godslastering: could be, like i said you can use tcpdump to listen for RA's and see where they're coming from, the problem is paying attention to them when theres no ipv6 route through the router advertising routes
[18:24] <Senjai> Odaym: sudo apt-get install mysql-admin
[18:24] <Senjai> Odaym, sorry I spelt it wrong
[18:24] <Odaym> oh with a dash
[18:24] <Odaym> ok
[18:25] <ruan> how can i access hidden directories in /home with nautilus? eg. /home/.jd/downloads
[18:25] <Hedgehog456> Err... how do I create a USB pen drive with the ISO on?
[18:25] <Senjai> Odaym, let me know when it is installed
[18:25] <Garandir> Anyone knowledgable with compiling kernels and/or DSDT tables?
[18:25] <Gnea> !usb | Hedgehog456
[18:25] <switch10_> ruan: ctrl+h
[18:25] <ruan> switch10_: thanks
[18:25] <Odaym> it's installed, Senjai
[18:26] <Hedgehog456> oh no, my computer doesn't support flash drive booting...
[18:26] <sss> Where do I find my username and password for phpmyadmin?
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton_> Well none of those links worked.
[18:26] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: well, if you can learn how to burn isos correctly, it actually can boot from usb.
[18:26] <Senjai> Odaym, in terminal, (this will be under your Programming section in GUI) type mysql-admin &
[18:26] <MichaelDeaton_> -.-
[18:26] <Jetpack> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my desktop, in that any sudo command in the terminal will just pause as soon as I enter it, and refuses to ever ask for my password, or ctrl+c cancel.
[18:26] <Garandir> Hedgehog456: Is there a bios setting?
[18:26] <silverarrow> Ubuntu has grow too big
[18:27] <Odaym> & to be able to run it in the background and let me keep typing other commands?
[18:27] <Senjai> Welcome back silverarrow
[18:27] <MichaelDeaton_> How do I get my Intel Pocket PC Cam CS630 to work with Ubuntu 10.10?
[18:27] <Senjai> Odaym, yes, doesnt really matter though
[18:27] <Hedgehog456> i'll check... i make it manually boot to cd anyway.
[18:27] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux.html
[18:27] <cgkades> Jetpack: is this a new problem or has it done it since install?
[18:27] <ohsix> silverarrow: has it grown at all? how did you measure?
[18:27] <Garandir> Anyone knowledgable with compiling kernels and/or DSDT tables?
[18:27] <Odaym> at Stored Connection i type my SSID?
[18:27] <silverarrow> Ubuntu is harder to run than XP SP 3
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> !kernel
[18:27] <Jetpack> cgkades: It's just started yesterday, and I've had the machine running for 3+ weeks
[18:27] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: it doesn't matter if your BIOS won't boot the USB, PLOP will make the USB boot anyway.
[18:27] <ruan> silverarrow: how so?
[18:28] <intel352> hey guys, are there any backports from Natty to Maverick, for php5? I'm looking for the compiled-in pcntl support that natty has for it's PHP5 deb
[18:28] <Implant> noob here with live backtrack linux. need sound.
[18:28] <Garandir> ActionParsnip: I need help doing it.
[18:28] <Senjai> Odaym, doesnt haveto be anything, just localhost is the server, root is the username, and your password
[18:28] <Gnea> !backtrack | Implant
[18:28] <chikokishi> Im extremely confused. I reinstalled ubuntu attempting to fix my sound problem, and now my menus look different even though i used the same instal
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: depends on situation
[18:28] <Hedgehog456> i think i know what may be wrong...
[18:28] <sss> I have LAMP and now installed phpmyadmin, where do I find username and password for phpmyadmin?
[18:28] <ruan> chikokishi: how are they different?
[18:28] <Odaym> haha, yea this is complicated
[18:29] <Senjai> Odaym, did it work?
[18:29] <Odaym> ok, i will wait for the course to start
[18:29] <Odaym> yea
[18:29] <Odaym> thanks
[18:29] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: what method, exactly, did you use to burn the ubuntu iso originally to the cd?
[18:29] <Senjai> Odaym, one more thing, and you'll love this more than that
[18:29] <chikokishi> ruan, just small changes like instead of _ being miniminze i have a down arrow.
[18:29] <silverarrow> I mean, Ubuntu is much more taxing on cpu and ram than eqivalent functions in windows XP, like media player, fire fox, online tv, word processor, update
[18:29] <Hedgehog456> Sonic RecordNow
[18:29] <Senjai> Odaym, in console: mysql-query-browser
[18:29] <Odaym> i can access it on Firefox through the loopback?
[18:29] <alisalaah> how do i move the Wireless/Networking Icon left on my top panel? i moved things around but that one wont let me move it
[18:29] <Gnea> silverarrow: hardly
[18:29] <Senjai> Odaym, its better than phpmyadmin, and allows you to run queries, and see the results
[18:29] <Odaym> aah!
[18:29] <cgkades> Jetpack: have you run any updates or anything?
[18:29] <Senjai> Odaym, ;)
[18:30] <Odaym> i can test what they give in class, because i know they give queries and stuff
[18:30] <Gnea> silverarrow: what data do you have to back that claim up?
[18:30] <Senjai> Odaym, with syntax highlighting :)
[18:30] <Jetpack> I have been, I don't remember if the problems corresponded with that, though. :S
[18:30] <Odaym> very nice
[18:30] <silverarrow> actionparsnip, perhaps they need to prune Ubuntu a bit
[18:30] <Senjai> Odaym, if you want to install apache
[18:30] <Odaym> thanks again :)
[18:30] <ruan> silverarrow: lol, firefox boots in half a second for me on ubuntu, yet 5-8 on windows
[18:30] <Hedgehog456> are Direct Memory Access cd drives bad for booting?
[18:30] <Garandir> Anyone knowledgable with compiling kernels and/or DSDT tables?
[18:30] <Senjai> Odaym, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP DO NOT INSTALL LAMP, follow the guide EXACTLY from the apache section
[18:30] <piyushmishra> has anyone ever seen the full movie of java-4 ever?
[18:31] <Senjai> Odaym, like to the word :P
[18:31] <chikokishi> ruan, also it  didnt fix my sound.  When i installed i have one loaded (ubuntu, and a recovery mode) and after i did the update i now have two loaders (two ubuntu and two recovery)  Do you know why?
[18:31] <Odaym> ok, that i can do
[18:31] <cgkades> Jetpack: i've never incountered that... maybe a little google-fu?
[18:31] <Odaym> i'll save it
[18:31] <Gnea> silverarrow: no, people just need to buck up and be willing to learn something new instead of expecting the same thing
[18:31] <ohsix> silverarrow: that doesn't match my experience on the same hardware, what would they prune?
[18:31] <Hedgehog456> are Direct Memory Access cd drives bad for booting
[18:31] <Hedgehog456> ?
[18:31] <Jetpack> cgkades: I've been looking around, I haven't found anything useful so far.
[18:31] <Senjai> Odaym, its one of the few online guides that tells you everything you need to know, I have ENGL 112, in half an hour so i should jet
[18:31] <Gnea> !repeat | Hedgehog456
[18:31] <ruan> chikokishi: maybe those are the two linux kernels
[18:31] <Odaym> alright, take care!
[18:31] <YouKay> Hey guys, what package do I need to instal for getting the common lisp environment?
[18:31] <ruan> chikokishi: for some reason it installs 2
[18:31] <silverarrow> Gnea, just comparing dual install on two laptops, one with 2GB RAM, core 2 duo processor, and one 1,5 GHz processor and 1GB ram
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: my 256mb 2ghz system crawls under windows versions after 2000. It flys under ubuntu. What video chip are you using? Have you tried alternative browsers and such
[18:32] <chikokishi> ruan is there a tutorial anywhere as to how to edit the grub list?
[18:32] <ruan> chikokishi: im not sure
[18:32] <Senjai> 1631 people in this channel!
[18:32] <ruan> !grub2
[18:32] <ohsix> silverarrow: the amount of ram might have something to do with it; but that's no excuse in and of itself
[18:32] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: sorry, saw your question, was doing something else. please don't do that again. not sure what you mean by DMA in that sense?
[18:32] <silverarrow> yes, ubuntu boots fast, that is true
[18:33] <ohsix> XP boots faster for me, you might have some weird stuff going on
[18:33] <chasr> 	
[18:33] <chasr> alisalaah, there's a small bar the network icon. depending on your theme it may be almost impossible to see. You right click on that
[18:33] <juk> !fast
[18:33] <Hedgehog456> will a broken/clean DMA installation on a drive affect booting? because my dma is broken
[18:33] <silverarrow> ActionParsnip, I'm using opera and firefox
[18:33] <Jetpack> cgkades: even ctrl+\ won't stop the sudo command
[18:33] <Gnea> silverarrow: opera and firefox are both known memory guzzlers. you should try google chrome before stating that the base OS is the problem.
[18:33] <silverarrow> I don't know about the vide chip, I just read the CPU and RAM values
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Silverarrow:xpud boots faster but is more limited in functionality. Depends what you need the OS for
[18:34] <ruan> ubuntu boots faster than XP for me
[18:34] <silverarrow> and notice speed
[18:34] <Hedgehog456> if so, i'll remove the dma
[18:34] <ruan> and it shuts down 5 times faster
[18:34] <ruan> at least
[18:34] <cgkades> Jetpack: can you background it even? ctr-z
[18:34] <ohsix> firefox uses what it needs, as a proportion to the number of tabs it scales better as well
[18:34] <Senjai> Ubuntu shutdown time for me is 5 seconds
[18:34] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: how is your DMA broken?
[18:34] <silverarrow> Gnea, the same firefox and opera runs smoothly on the same computer in XP
[18:35] <Hedgehog456> one of the IRP hooks was deleted by AVG
[18:35] <Gnea> silverarrow: no, they still mooch about the same amounts of memory on any operating system.
[18:35] <silverarrow> thanks for the tip about browser, I shall go browser shopping
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: if you use some crappy sis, via or low end intel gpu which have great support in wi
[18:35] <Hedgehog456> no, it's actually called DLA, sorry
[18:35] <Jetpack> cgkades: nope, refuses to listen to anything.
[18:36] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: are you talking about a windows software?
[18:36] <Hedgehog456> Drive Letter Access
[18:36] <silverarrow> gnea, but they aren't slow, prone to hangups or what not in XP
[18:36] <Hedgehog456> Sony Drive Letter Access
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Windows but not so great in Linux it will affect stuff silverarrow
[18:36] <ohsix> silverarrow: it sounds like you've got something weird going on
[18:36] <Gnea> silverarrow: sure they are, if you open enough tabs and cause it to tax the system far enough, it'll happen in any case.
[18:36] <Senjai> silverarrow, I second ohsix
[18:36] <Hedgehog456> slax didn't use to boot on my laptop (before i erased everything) but when dla vanished it started to work
[18:37] <ohsix> silverarrow: did you use any of those weird installer scripts? i forget the name of the worst one
[18:37] <piyushmishra> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7QDUdjXoE
[18:37] <ruan> for me, ubuntu is universally faster than windows
[18:37] <Senjai> !ot | piyushmishra
[18:37] <Gnea> silverarrow: because it sure sounds to me like you're basing this off of just the one system and a lack of experience at dealing with the same software on a variety of computers.
[18:37] <juk> somebody stop this
[18:37] <YouKay> !lisp
[18:37] <silverarrow> i'm running chatzilla and one single page in firefox, and still a bit sluggish
[18:37] <alisalaah> Ubuntu is way faster than Windows or Mac for me.. and I just installed Ubuntu over my Win7 yesterday
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: maybe ubuntu doesn't match your needs and you should try a different distro (make sure its not ubuntu based)
[18:38] <Gnea> silverarrow: well perhaps you could open the system monitor or top and see what's really taking up the cpu/mem
[18:38] <silverarrow> don't get me wrong, I  like Ubuntu
[18:38] <ohsix> ubunto does a lot of stuff slower than windows, but it does a lot of things i cross often much faster; so it's a tradeoff :[
[18:38] <cgkades> Jetpack: thats not good
[18:38] <Senjai> Hey guys lets get on topic
[18:38] <ruan> ohsix: what does ubuntu do slower?
[18:38] <Senjai> !msg  the bot | YouKay
[18:38] <Senjai> YouKay, see #emacs for lisp help
[18:38] <ohsix> ruan: stuff
[18:38] <sirninja> My laptop isn't suspending (but only sometimes) this is a new issue so I'm guessing something I installed is causing it, where can I find the log that would tell me what is preventing it from suspending?
[18:38] <Hedgehog456> Sonic Drive Leter Access
[18:38] <bullgard> Why do hostid and gethostip print the current IP address in different format?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: did you tweak the about:config in Firefox?
[18:39] <ohsix> ruan: the lack of literally the same program i use on windows usually counts as slow
[18:39] <Gnea> silverarrow: the problem is that you expect it to run all smooth-like out of the box - the same is often expected from XP, that's what you've become conditioned to expecting - and you're just not 'getting it' - you need to unlearn what you have learned :)
[18:39] <YouKay> Senjai: Ok, thanks.
[18:39] <ruan> ohsix: which programs?
[18:39] <llutz> bullgard: hostid != ip-address even if its calculated from it
[18:39] <Gnea> Hedgehog456: well, that shouldn't matter, but if you can't read any files off of ANY disk then how can you possibly verify them?
[18:39] <Hedgehog456> i don't actually know
[18:39] <ohsix> ruan: this rabbit hole doesn't go anywhere; suffice it to say they aren't exactly the same and running them is impractical; but there is coverage for apps that are there, it's just a little different
[18:40] <llutz> s/from/based on/
[18:40] <praktikant> Hallo
[18:40] <Hedgehog456> it stopped working when AVG deleted the IRP hook
[18:40] <silverarrow> right now everything seems to be sleeping, and I am using 256 RAM of 874MB detected, XP detects 1GB
[18:40] <sss> How do make my Bluetooth off by default? It is always on when the computer starts up
[18:40] <ruan> sss: disable it in startup applications
[18:40] <ruan> sss: under System > preferences
[18:40] <ohsix> sss: it doesn't stay disabled across reboots?
[18:40] <sirninja> My laptop isn't suspending (but only sometimes) this is a new issue so I'm guessing something I installed is causing it, where can I find the log that would tell me what is preventing it from suspending?
[18:41] <ohsix> sss: that's something that'd be desirable, you should file a bug about it as well
[18:41] <Hedgehog456> dammit, DLA is a rootkit
[18:41] <Gnea> silverarrow: well, that's not very much, but if yo haven't updated your video driver, then running a bit sluggish is just normal behavior
[18:41] <Hedgehog456> no option to remove it
[18:41] <sss> ohsix, ok
[18:41] <ohsix> sirninja: do you have cgroup-bin installed?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: personally, I recommend installing LXDE and using that. It's decent and light so leaves more resources free for apps (and Firefox needs all the resources it can get)
[18:41] <chasr> sirninja: look in th directory /var/log
[18:42] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: that's why I recommend people use google chrome, as it doesn't suffer from the memory leak issues that bloatier browsers suffer from
[18:42] <ruan> personally i prefer firefox
[18:42] <juk> anyone going to recomment IE
[18:42] <sirninja> ohsix: no I don't. I remember that causing me problems in the past though
[18:42] <ruan> lol ie
[18:42] <silverarrow> Gnea, I have only added the restriced extra packages recommended for the DVD,CD, java and flashplayer
[18:42] <Gnea> silverarrow, ActionParsnip: it's really juat a matter of maximizing performance, sometimes it requires some tweaking here and there
[18:42] <sirninja> chasr: do you know which log specifically might contain some useful info?
[18:43] <Gnea> silverarrow: okay, do you know what video card you have?
[18:43] <Jetpack> cgkades: could this problem be related to gnome-keyring-d?
[18:43] <sirninja> ohsix: I was logged into a tty at the time, think that could be related?
[18:43] <silverarrow> no lol
[18:43] <silverarrow> I wish I did Gnea
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: you have 1gb ram an onboard vga which may show why it's slow. If you use unichrome video chips you won't have much (if any) hardware accelleration
[18:44] <Bigbucks> Can someone help me with the issue of not being able to run commands under root without recieving an error?
[18:44] <Gnea> silverarrow: okay, easy way to figure it out - open a terminal (either with ctrl-alt-t or applications->accessories->terminal) and type the following:  lspci | grep VGA
[18:44] <Jetpack> cgkades: /var/log/syslog says it got a segfault.
[18:44] <middle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10480472#post10480472
[18:44] <llutz> Bigbucks: secret error?
[18:44] <middle> Can anyone help?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: +1 for chrome. Its also the default in Lubuntu
[18:45] <BluesKaj> Gnea, the only complaint I have about chrome is the menu fonts don't integrate with the desktop environment font settings ..it totally ignores them and uses it's own ...that's bothersome when viewed on large monitors. The website font settings within chromium are fine ,they're adjustable
[18:45] <bullgard> llutz: Of course 'hostid != ip-address'. This is trivial because hostid is a command and no address in my question. But this does not anser my question.
[18:45] <Senjai> middle! do not ask people to ssh into your box
[18:45] <Senjai> middle, they can mess up your system
[18:45] <bullgard> +w
[18:46] <ohsix> sirninja: well it does cause suspend failures due to how it moves kernel threads around (cgroup-bin), being logged in on a terminal shouldn't matter
[18:46] <llutz> bullgard: it does. what "hostid" gives you is a random number (mostly generated from ip-addresses/mac-addr). gethostip prints the IP of a given host.
[18:46] <middle> Senjai: Oh, yeah like it isn't allready. I know the risks, i have nada to loose... And it is just annoying when people say that...
[18:46] <Bigbucks> I am trying to run commands such as opening gedit or nautilus and I get this error..http://pastebin.com/Z3wVyw5m
[18:46] <Senjai> middle I have to go to class but maybe ohsix can walk you through modifying your kernel line in grub with nomodeset, if that doesn't work try single user mode, otherwise make an ubuntu cd and chmod your home folder 777, an application may have chmodded your home directory
[18:46] <silverarrow> Gnea, command not found?
[18:46] <middle> Senjai: allready done that...
[18:46] <cgkades> Jetpack: the logs are a good place for info. you may need to reinstall some packages
[18:46] <Senjai> middle, single user mode?
[18:47] <middle> Senjai: As in jsut logging in as root?
[18:47] <Gnea> BluesKaj: that's adjustable, you can change the GTK theme
[18:47] <ohsix> sirninja: theres a page on the ubuntu wiki about troubleshooting suspend, basically you can simulate it to see if any separate part of it fails to work; and if any of those lock it up or cause an oops it should be visible, if not you can use netconsole to send the messages during suspend to another computer, both are to narrow down where it happens
[18:47] <Senjai> middle, no, as in single user mode
[18:47] <Bigbucks> I am trying to run commands such as opening gedit or nautilus and I get this error..http://pastebin.com/Z3wVyw5m
[18:47] <Gnea> silverarrow: make sure you type it correctly:   lspci | grep VGA
[18:47] <Gnea> silverarrow: that's the pipe character between the 'lspci' and 'grep' commands
[18:47] <Senjai> middle, edit your linux line, delete quiet and splash (the defaults) and replace it with single
[18:47] <Jetpack> cgkades: know of a way to (re)install packages without the use of sudo? :P  I can get stuff to my desktop from an external hd
[18:47] <Senjai> middle, in grub
[18:47] <middle> I only have one user if that is what you mean =s Or do you mean liket they autlogin
[18:47] <ohsix> Senjai: setting your home directory to 777 is bad, and some apps will refuse to work when you do, too
[18:48] <janhouse> How come that after updating my ubuntu server crontab -e is now empty?
[18:48] <middle> ahcool
[18:48] <Senjai> ohsix, it is just to get to boot, then he can reset
[18:48] <Senjai> ohsix, I just went through this issue with someone last night
[18:48] <silverarrow> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[18:48] <bubble_> How can I enable effects in ubuntu in vmware ?
[18:48] <Senjai> middle, odds are your computer isnt reading .ICEauthority
[18:48] <cgkades> Jetpack: ummmmm... good point... cant you boot root from the cd? or something.. it's been a while
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: in short, hardware manufacturers rarely support Linux due to money. If the support was equal there would be little issue. Blame you hardware manufacturers. Companies like kodak and logitech flat refuse Linux support of any kind
[18:48] <sirninja> ohsix: In my pm-suspend.log file, the last line is showing: "Mon Feb 21 11:40:13 CST 2011: performing suspend". So does that mean that it might be a kernel issue or something?
[18:48] <Gnea> silverarrow: oh... you've got an ATI... so sorry to hear that... let's see if maybe they've got something for that, YET
[18:48] <silverarrow> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[18:48] <ohsix> Senjai: user mode setting is completely gone on a few drivers now too
[18:48] <Gnea> !ati | silverarrow
[18:48] <Bigbucks> Can someone help me with the issue of not being able to run commands under root without recieving an error?
[18:49] <Gnea> silverarrow: go there...
[18:49] <Senjai> middle, boot up in single user mode, bypasss root (its like b something) then chown (your user name) /home/username
[18:49] <Bigbucks> I am trying to run commands such as opening gedit or nautilus and I get this error..http://pastebin.com/Z3wVyw5m
[18:49] <Senjai> ohsix, I have to go, perhaps you can walk him through it
[18:49] <ohsix> sirninja: well that's only one message of many, the one that made it to a log; there are actually a lot more that you wont see depending on where it fails
[18:49] <Jetpack> cgkades: I guess I could use the recovery mode, where I can use sudo
[18:49] <bullgard> llutz: You say:"what "hostid" gives you is a random number (mostly generated from ip-addresses/mac-addr)". Your statement contradicts 'man hostid': "hostid prints the numeric identifier for the current host."
[18:50] <lastent> Hi, do you know any OCR app that works with chinese?
[18:50] <Gnea> silverarrow: just take the first ATI-related link
[18:50] <bc81> Bigbucks: try >> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:50] <bubble_> How can I enable effects in ubuntu in vmware ?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> bubble_: i'd ask in #vmware compiz is installed and will enable if 3D accelleration is available
[18:50] <sirninja> ohsix: any advice. The reason this seems strange to me is suspend had been working perfectly for about a year now. And it seems that even if I go back to older kernels, the issue persists
[18:50] <cgkades> Jetpack: i think thats about your only option right now, unless someone who knows more can chime in
[18:51] <silverarrow> thanks guys
[18:51] <azm> hi, I have problem with flash. It consumes over giga memory and 60 cpu, the process called plugin container, in chromium flash does not work at all
[18:51] <uRock> middle, I edited the post already.
[18:51] <silverarrow> so ATI isn't very good?
[18:51] <noiro> Bonjour
[18:51] <azm> Im not sure how to debug
[18:51] <noiro> hy
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Azm: do you run 64bit ubuntu?
[18:51] <azm> nope i686
[18:52] <BluesKaj> Gnea, I changed themes with no luck on both gnome and kde regarding the fonts
[18:52] <uRock> !fr | noiro
[18:52] <middle> uRock thanks, sorry bout that
[18:52] <uRock> middle, no problem
[18:52] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: thank you :) i just joined the channel
[18:52] <Gnea> silverarrow: no, it's considered bottom-of-the-barrel since ATI/AMD refuse to support it the way that Intel and Nvidia have agreed to support their stuff. However, not all hope is lost...
[18:52] <Gnea> BluesKaj: GTK is separate from gnome and kde.
[18:52] <middle> senjai: When i add single should it come up with the recovery menu?
[18:52] <noiro> ok tks
[18:52] <llutz> bullgard: "numeric identifier" is just a unique number to identify a host. thats the purpose of hostid.  read man-pages (2) for gethostid/sethostid
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Silverarrow: they drop "old" chips and the open driver helps support them
[18:52] <ohsix> sirninja: yea i had some of my own problems like that; one was the intel video drive for a time, the rest was cgroup-bin; you should try going into the bios and using the "restore defaults" thing, but figuring it out yourself you'll need more logging information
[18:52] <Gnea> BluesKaj: you'll just need to find a theme that works right
[18:53] <noiro> aurevoir
[18:53] <silverarrow> when I bought this laptop I know nothing about computers at all, I only used the office package and browser
[18:53] <Jetpack> cgkades: thanks for the help :P
[18:53] <cgkades> Jetpack: sorry i wasnt too knowledgable on the subject
[18:53] <cgkades> Jetpack: but you're welcome :)
[18:53] <kermit> how does nautilus umount things that i need root to umount from the command line?
[18:54] <Jetpack> cgkades: It seems to be a super-general problem, I wasn't expecting much. ^^
[18:54] <ohsix> re: ati, yea; they let the cards be supported by the open driver after a grace period
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Azm: please target me by typing my nick (use tab to complete) i nearly missed your reply
[18:54] <sirninja> ohsix: I'll give that a try. It would be much easier to track down the issue if it happened consistently, but currently it just seems random. :/
[18:54] <azm> ActionParsnip, ah sorry.
[18:54] <middle> uRock: any chance you could help me?
[18:54] <ohsix> sirninja: yep, it's annoying; the intel thing was like that, are you running 10.04?
[18:54] <silverarrow> gnea, actionparsnip, is that why my DVD player is so jerky showing films?
[18:54] <Gnea> silverarrow: then this page is your likely salvation in that regard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[18:55] <sirninja> ohsix: I'm on 10.10. I do have an integrated intel video card though if that's what you're talking about
[18:55] <middle> ohsix: Could you help me?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10480472#post10480472
[18:55] <silverarrow> I use the totemplayer, for some reason VLC runs smooth
[18:55] <Gnea> silverarrow: quite possibly, if the video driver isn't in sync with the video chipset, then anything outside of basic video processing will likely suffer
[18:55] <BluesKaj> yes Gnea I realize that , but I've done a lot of searching about this problem and haven't found any solutions for larger monitors . It's difficult to visualize unless you try it on a larger screen like I use on this media server pc connected to a 42" plasma
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Azm: very weird, what version flash does about:config say you have?
[18:55] <Gnea> silverarrow: and yes, VLC is pretty awesome
[18:56] <uRock> middle, I am not that great with ATI issues.
[18:56] <ohsix> sirninja: right, you might try the xorg-edgers ppa, it has updated drivers. but i haven't seen the failure as you describe it here in a long while; the patches were pushed into the regular driver
[18:56] <goggle-eyed_bear> I'm from taiga. Roaarrrrr
[18:56] <uRock> middle, I was lucky that we had no issues when I installed on the wife's HP
[18:56] <ohsix> silverarrow: it sounds like you have no video acceleration
[18:56] <Gnomer> Tarde.. Pessoal..
[18:57] <Gnomer> Testando aqui o 10.10
[18:57] <scott__> yo ubuntu is coming up since the last time i tried it, big improvemnets
[18:57] <sirninja> ohsix: Hmm. Do you know if there's a process that's eating up the cpu and can't be killed if that could possibly be causing this?
[18:57] <silverarrow> I need a new laptop
[18:57] <middle> It has got rather enfuriating.. i am thinking it is the new Ati drivers maybe...
[18:57] <uRock> !es | Gnomer
[18:57] <ohsix> sirninja: not likely, if you're talking about what i think you're talking about it's a kernel thread and will drain on suspend, is it kworker or something?
[18:57] <Gnomer> meu Apt-get deu inguiço e agora naum quer mais instalar só se baixar os Pacotes q deram erro.. o que faço pra Limpar o Cache
[18:58] <silverarrow> what brands are better for Ubuntu and linux? I am not getting a new fujitsu at least
[18:58] <uRock> !es > Gnomer
[18:58] <ohsix> sirninja: rather, kslowd*
[18:58] <bc81> !pt
[18:58] <Jetpack> silverarrow, heard acer, asus are good
[18:58] <Gnea> silverarrow: I like Asus and Toshiba, HP tends to work well
[18:58] <searchfgold> silverarrow, don't we all
[18:58] <Gnomer> This Chat... is PT-BR
[18:58] <bc81> !pt > Gnomer
[18:59] <ohsix> smem -H | grep -v firefox | cut -b 70- | paste -sd+ | bc <- hax, shows all the memory everything uses other than firefox (593m here)
[18:59] <silverarrow> thanks for the tip gnea
[18:59] <sirninja> ohsix: I recently installed one program that has occasionally stopped working and starts eating up cpu.. it's just been buggy in general, I may see if that's part of it
[18:59] <Gnea> silverarrow: I just got a cheap eeepc and dualboot xp and ubuntu netbook remix, everything works great, but it's not a powerful cpu for high-end video
[18:59] <bubble_> can anyone help me with file sharing ? to be more precise mpio
[18:59] <silverarrow> I bought a very expensive computer, that was suppose to be "vista ready" ha ha ha
[19:00] <ohsix> Jetpack: acer has some pretty fragile stuff the last 6 years or so
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: bet you don't get support like _this_ in Windows
[19:00] <Gnea> silverarrow: if I want to watch HD, I do it on my workstation: p4 dualcore 3ghz, 4g ddr2 ram, 500g hdd, nvidia geforce 9300 video
[19:00] <silverarrow> intel celeron M processor 1,5GHx
[19:00] <Jetpack> silverarrow, I don't think any computer is ever ready for vista. :P
[19:00] <silverarrow> GHz I mean
[19:00] <silverarrow> lol
[19:00] <gnewb> Jetpack: ^5
[19:00] <Gnea> silverarrow: I'm not sure which is worse: a celeron or an atom lol
[19:01] <silverarrow> I don't know if vista is anymore, now it's Windows 7
[19:01] <silverarrow> I had no idea the time
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: ironically, the netbook edition needs more RAM than the desktop
[19:01] <intok> What tweaks are there for a Radeon 7500? I'm only getting 58fps in GLXGears. GLXInfo: http://pastebin.com/je8yqmFc
[19:01] <juk> silverarrow: try here tutorial http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/fedora-14-linux-and-ati-radeon-drivers-installation-how-to.html
[19:01] <azm> ActionParsnip, what should  Ifilter to find version of flash in about config please ?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: define "expensive" ;)
[19:02] <jorick> #bbcode
[19:02] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: Can you help me with file sharing for ubuntu to ubuntu transfer, to be more precise, fcoe
[19:02] <Gnea> juk: why would you provide a tutorial based on fedora?
[19:02] <bc81> azm: try about:plugins maybe
[19:02] <silverarrow> computer sellers are sneaky animals
[19:02] <ohsix> intok: glxgears is not a benchmark
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> bubble_: use samba
[19:02] <silverarrow> don't trust them
[19:02] <ohsix> intok: and it sounds like you have vsync on anyways
[19:02] <Gnea> silverarrow: careful about that tutorial, it's for fedora, not ubuntu - they're both linux, but they use different package management systems and other things
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> bubble_: its quick and dirty :)
[19:03] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: Is it better ?
[19:03] <silverarrow> actionparsnip, I bout this laptop for about 1200£ not office included
[19:03] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: Dirty ?
[19:03] <ohsix> silverarrow: i don't know about the ati driver status; but if it exists it's available in the xorg-edgers ppa
[19:03] <silverarrow> a bit after vista was launched officially
[19:03] <gnewb> Gnea: If Alien is installed and enabled then RPMs and other such can be integrated or added to the kernel?
[19:04] <intok> ohsix Well the 7500 is an ancient card, how do you disable vsync then?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> bubble_: there is no better, as that implies a best which never exists
[19:04] <Gnea> gnewb: it would still provide to be more problematic than following a proper tutorial
[19:04] <Mimosita> server irc.chat zona.org
[19:04] <silverarrow> If I had known a bit more about computers at the time, I could have bouth a much better machine for exactly the same price, I see better machines now for sale for like 400£
[19:05] <bc81> samba for ubuntu > ubuntu?  i always thought nfs was faster
[19:05] <gnewb> Gnea: Aye,
[19:05] <ohsix> intok: try an app that can do it itself, or force it off, but glxgears still isnt'a  benchmark
[19:05] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: Do I have to download it ?
[19:05] <azm> ActionParsnip, Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> bubble_: samba plugs nicely into nautilus, or the smb.conf file is childishly simple
[19:06] <scott__> are there any subversion gui clients for ubuntu?
[19:06] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: and i'm childishly beginner
[19:06] <bc81> !svn
[19:06] <gnewb> silverarrow: Here is the Ubuntu Hardware Guide:> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog
[19:06] <intok> ohsix well its the only 3d anythng I thing this R100 series card can actually run
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Bubble_: Samba is in the repos like your updates and software you have installed
[19:06] <bc81> scott__: never used it, but there is RapidSVN in the Ubuntu Software Center
[19:07] <boobsbr> how do I get the "show desktop button" to show my desktop instead of bringing up all my minimized windows?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Azm: could try find 10.1 someplace. See if its
[19:07] <uRock> bubble_, just right-click the folder that you want to share and it will be visible on the network
[19:07] <bubble_> ActionParsnip: i'll just check it
[19:07] <Gnea> silverarrow: Don't let yourself feel down because you don't know about everything - we were all noobs at one point or another in that regard, you'll figure it out
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Nicer
[19:07] <silverarrow> where I live some of the low price chains have a brand called Acer, some have ubuntu installed
[19:07] <Gnea> silverarrow: Acer is decent
[19:08] <bc81> boobsbr: click it again?  i dont know :/
[19:08] <ohsix> intok: what about tremulous or bloboats?
[19:08] <Mimosita> hello
[19:08] <Mimosita> someone can heklpt to me with this chat, please?
[19:08]  * ActionParsnip thinks acer are cheap, in a bad way
[19:08] <uRock> !ask | Mimosita
[19:09] <BluesKaj> silverarrow, for what it's worth acer used to be considered crappy but the last few yrs their stuff is pretty competitive from a quality standpoint
[19:09] <boobsbr> bc81: is there a way to get this to minimize all the windows instead of bringing them up before showing the desktop?
[19:09] <bubble_> uRock: it said i need to download a package for sharing
[19:09] <silverarrow> I see
[19:09] <Mimosita> this is so dificult to me, my english is not good :(
[19:09] <azm> ActionParsnip, you mean probably from offcial repos from internet
[19:09] <uRock> click to allow it
[19:09] <ohsix> BluesKaj: that is to say, they're all bad now
[19:09] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: they used to be, but certainly not as bad as gateway
[19:09] <uRock> click to allow it bubble_
[19:09] <silverarrow> I have regarded HP highly and until recently macs too
[19:10] <ohsix> BluesKaj: you will basically be told to buy a new computer for any problem you ask of their technical support tho, that's the killer
[19:10] <intok> ohsix trem won't run faster then a slide show on a geforce 6200 (NV44), the Radeon 7500 isn't even half as fast
[19:10] <bubble_> uRock: i did its downloading
[19:10] <Mimosita> someone spanish...
[19:10] <Oer> Mimosita, your english is good.
[19:10] <Gnea> macs aren't bad, but they are their own beast - whatever you do, never get a mac air
[19:10] <uRock> !es | Mimosita
[19:10] <BluesKaj> ohsix, well my crappy 500buck laptop has survived several yrs so far
[19:10] <Mimosita> thaks oer but the most things i not understand...
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: nothing is that bad. Even Dan systems were better than Gateway's
[19:10] <silverarrow> I almost did, because of the thin light build Gnea
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Silverarrow: thin and light is common now
[19:11] <ohsix> BluesKaj: good
[19:11] <Rav_> bash.org vs vrlogrs.com -- which is better?
[19:11] <chasr_> My Acer started getting stress cracks and loose hinges afetr about 3 yrs
[19:11] <ohsix> Rav_: this isn't the place to conduct a pole
[19:11] <Gnea> silverarrow: the problem with the macbook air is that the cpu instructions are split - if you try to install Ubuntu or any other OS, for that matter, the CPU won't know what to do and it will permanently freeze it up, rendering the system 100% useless, except perhaps as a paperweight
[19:12] <ohsix> Rav_: a poll even
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Rav_: why not use both???
[19:12] <ohsix> Gnea: whaaaaaaaat
[19:12] <BluesKaj> ohsix, yeah well HP and Dell never impressed me with their so called support either
[19:12] <Gnea> ohsix: it's true
[19:12] <uRock> another Mac fail
[19:12] <bc81> boobsbr: i don't understand...it should minimize all the windows...it does for me at least
[19:12] <ohsix> Gnea: if it is it's not the "cpu instructions" it's how stuff is installed on the SSD
[19:12] <silverarrow> gnea, I had luck there than, this laptop was a bit cheaper lol
[19:12] <sveta> hi
[19:13] <silverarrow> Mac and Apple are sneaky too
[19:13] <Flyingfox_> I accidently deleted my internet indicator on the taskbar and i cant find it on the "add applet" menu
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> I buy from companies supporting Linux if I can. They deserve money
[19:13] <ohsix> uRock: i love your comments! you in fact don't know anything about them aside from your own prejudice
[19:13] <Gnea> ohsix: that could be it too.... supposedly there's a fix for that
[19:13] <uRock> ohsix, nice accusations
[19:14] <silverarrow> selling faulty macbooks that have been previously sold
[19:14] <sveta> exit
[19:14] <ohsix> Gnea: yea, i can understand how it might be bodged by an auto installer right off, but people who know about efi and stuff can make sure all the good bits stay where they are
[19:14] <bc81> boobsbr: press Windows Key + D
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Flyingfox_: press ALT+F2 and run: nm-applet
[19:14] <ohsix> uRock: it's no accusation, you just did it again: 11:12 < uRock> another Mac fail
[19:14] <uRock> silverarrow, no sense overpaying for the same hardware you can get in a Dell
[19:14] <boobsbr> bc81: thx
[19:14] <ohsix> uRock: i'ts not the same hardware
[19:14] <Gnea> ohsix: exactly. but for someone that's entirely new to the arena, I wouldn't recommend it.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Urock: amen
[19:15] <silverarrow> uRock, true, so dell is worth checking out?
[19:15] <silverarrow> did you hear the story about the chip in apple printers?
[19:15] <ohsix> Gnea: still, not "split cpu instructions"
[19:15] <YankDownUnder> I wouldn't give Dell money if I could avoid it.
[19:15] <ohsix> silverarrow: i'm sure it's not on topic
[19:15] <silverarrow> true
[19:15] <Gnea> dell's alright, but I'd avoid it
[19:16] <Flyingfox_> ActionParsnip Nothing happens
[19:16] <ohsix> uRock: where can you get a lithium polymer battery in a dell?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Ohsix: maybe but apples ratio of proverbial bang compared to buck is a negative incline
[19:16] <Pici> !ot
[19:16] <uRock> silverarrow, all brands have their good and bad products
[19:16] <silverarrow> Gnea, for which reason?
[19:16] <gnewb> I like the Zotac, but I do not know anyone that has one or has tested one.
[19:16] <Gnea> ohsix: well, that's somewhat true
[19:16] <Gnea> gnewb: I do
[19:16] <uRock> ohsix, why do I need a battery for a desktop?
[19:16] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: if you're going to just put ubuntu on it, that's probably true
[19:16] <Gnea> gnewb: on a zotac right now
[19:17] <silverarrow> well,  topic is Ubuntu comparable hardware and laptops
[19:17] <ohsix> uRock: you know what that right there is, that's moving the goal post; you said you can get the same hardware from dell, i proposed a situation where that wasn't true; you changed the question
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Flyingfox_: then readd the indicator applet to the panel, sounds like you removed it
[19:17] <gnewb> Gnea: go off-topic a moment please?
[19:17] <uRock> ohsix, my asus gets longer battery time than any Apple I have seen
[19:17] <ohsix> uRock: and as silverarrow just said; we've been talking about laptops the entire time
[19:17] <Gnea> gnewb: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:17] <ohsix> uRock: that's an anecdote
[19:17] <azm> where do I find older version in packages.ubuntu ?
[19:18] <jrib> azm: why?
[19:18] <ohsix> uRock: you can get 12 hours on a decent notebook with the lithium polymer batteries.
[19:18] <danub> hey all
[19:18] <uRock> ohsix, how is it an anecdote when I have compared stats with apple owners?
[19:18] <Flyingfox_> ActionParsnip i did remove it, and im trying to re add it.  But i cant find it in the "add applet to taskbar" options menu
[19:18] <azm> jrib, I need flash 10.1
[19:18] <azm> it should be possible
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Urock: use a light de/wm and it will go longer ;)
[19:18] <silverarrow> amz, just ceck for recommended packages for earlier versions
[19:18] <uRock> ohsix, My asus gets that time as well
[19:18] <ohsix> uRock: it's an anecdote because you just as well might have made it up
[19:19] <ohsix> uRock: model number?
[19:19] <middle> How can i remove catalyst 11.2?
[19:19] <uRock> ohsix, so we can say the same about the stats you just gave
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Flyingfox_:rightclick panel -> add item
[19:19] <jrib> azm: why do you need 10.1?
[19:19] <danub> got a problem trying to update from 10.4 to 10.10. it tells me that "an unresolvebale problem occured while calculating upgrade. 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages" how do I un-held a package?
[19:20] <ohsix> uRock: that you can get 12 hours is, that the average published life far exceeds lithium ion is not
[19:20] <jrib> danub: do you have xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed?
[19:20] <azm> jrib, Because the lastest version cause to freeze system, via plugin container
[19:20] <danub> not that i am aware of, how do i check?
[19:20] <jrib> azm: you're using 64bit?
[19:20] <Flyingfox_> ActionParsnip, alright im there.  Now what?
[19:20] <jrib> danub: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[19:21] <ohsix> uRock: http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html 10 hours published battery time with wireless on, again; what's the model number for your asus?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Jrib:.azm's flash (32bit) is chewing 1gb RAM. I recommended trying the older version to test
[19:21] <bencc> I'm trying to use in a script "exec sudo -u $RUNNER_USER -i $0 $@" but getting "-sh: ./myscript: not found"
[19:21] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: 1gb rss?
[19:21] <danub> jrib: it came back with stuff. installed and candidate
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Flyingfox_: add the i
[19:21] <bubble_> uRock: Failed to execute child process "testparm" (No such file or directory)
[19:21] <bencc> when I run the script with "sudo -u myuser ./myscript" it works
[19:21] <uRock> ohsix, the stats given for my hardware is for Windows, they have no Ubuntu stats
[19:21] <bencc> why there is a difference?
[19:22] <danub> jrib: do i need to uninstall nouveau first?
[19:22] <shachaf> bencc: Because of the -i. :-)
[19:22] <ohsix> uRock: ubuntu has nothing to do with it; and all to do with what they measured with, model number?
[19:22] <jrib> danub: then it's installed, remove it and try your upgrade again.  See the bottom of the 10.04 → 10.10 upgrade page from ubottu for a link to the relevant bug (if you care)
[19:22] <jrib> !upgrade > danub
[19:22] <shachaf> bencc: Specifically, it changes directory, so ./myscript is no longer the path to your script.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: ram. GT540 phone on a bus with normal fi
[19:22] <bencc> shachaf: it's so small I didn't see it :). thanks. trying to fix it
[19:22] <danub> ok, i will read up on this
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Fingers == hell
[19:23] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: ram is a lot of things though, theres vm size, theres rss, theres USS
[19:23] <bubble_> uRock: Failed to execute child process "testparm" (No such file or directory)
[19:23] <uRock> ohsix, that is BS, I have run the XP that came with it and got way less battery life out of it, OS does make a big difference
[19:23] <frankbro> Anyone have an idea what /etc/bash_completion.d/apport_completion: line 129: `_apport-bug': not a valid identifier error could be related to ?
[19:23] <Flyingfox_> ActionParsnip add the i...?
[19:23] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: rss is the important one, and "actual use"
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> !panels | flyingfox_
[19:23] <mouka> I have recently installed ubuntu, updated everything. But the headphone does not work when inserted in the jack
[19:23] <mouka> I have a HP 6735b laptop
[19:23] <ohsix> uRock: it's not BS; it's base-line, it's not material what difference the OS makes, you can reasonably expect to get 10 hours with a macbook
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Ohsix: good point
[19:24] <uRock> ohsix, and you could probably get a longer life using a lighter OS
[19:24] <ohsix> uRock: but i'm just badgering you, and i know you won't provide the information anyways; but in a matchup of lithium ion vs. lithium polymer, lipo always wins; and you can't get a dell with lipo in it
[19:24] <mouka> anybody know how I can update the sound driver? I am not even sure it's the sound driver. But I can't think of any other solutions
[19:24] <middle> ohsix: 'Virtual packages like 'xorg-driver-gflrx' cannot be remove. Would you have any idea how i can remove it?
[19:24] <jrib> frankbro: what are you doing to get the error?
[19:24] <ohsix> uRock: unimportant, think about what the subject really is; "you shouldn't pay more for hardware you can get from dell"
[19:25] <frankbro> jrib: Compiling amd codeanalyst from source
[19:25] <ohsix> uRock: and the fact that you have visible disdain and no real facts to back up your dislike of apple
[19:25] <jrib> frankbro: too general
[19:25] <mouka> anybody knows why when I plug my headphone in my laptop jack, I don't hear anything coming from headphones, sound comes out of laptop speakers?
[19:25] <uRock> ohsix, what I have said is factual
[19:25] <jrib> uRock, ohsix: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:26] <frankbro> jrib: During the ./configure step
[19:26] <bencc> shachaf: where can I read about the -i flag? I can't see it in the sudo manpage
[19:26] <ohsix> uRock: no, you mistake your bias and opinion as fact, when it isn't
[19:26] <mouka> anybody knows why when I plug my headphone in my laptop jack, I don't hear anything coming from headphones, sound comes out of laptop speakers?
[19:26] <middle> jrib: 'Virtual packages like 'xorg-driver-gflrx' cannot be remove. Would you have any idea how i can remove it?
[19:26] <shachaf> bencc: I can.
[19:26] <ohsix> uRock: you demonstrate it with your hyperbole and your evasiveness
[19:26] <ohsix> jrib: ok
[19:26] <shachaf> bencc: Are we looking at the same man page? :-)
[19:26] <uRock> ohsix, you are saying my mac owning friends are lying when they tell me what time they get out of their hardware?
[19:26] <bencc> shachaf: probably not. looking again
[19:26] <bc81> !patience | mouka
[19:26] <jrib> middle: remove an actual package I guess?  what's the context for your question?
[19:27] <jrib> mouka: you might try http://bugs.ubuntu.com to see if it's a known issue
[19:27] <ohsix> uRock: they aren't telling me, and i have no proof or way of knowing what your friends told you; i have no way of knowing these people even exist or if you didn't manufacture the entire thing, i could take your word for it ... but you still haven't provided that model number.
[19:28] <jrib> ohsix, uRock: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, that's the place for this discussion
[19:28] <intel352> how can I check to see if there are any backports from natty to maverick, for php5?
[19:28] <azm> ActionParsnip, so I tried older version same bad result
[19:28] <ohsix> i don't think there is a place for such talk :D public beatdown is the best you get
[19:28] <jrib> intel352: enable backports and check.  Or use packages.ubuntu.com
[19:28] <middle> jrib: nevermind i think i figured it out =] and this is my context: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10480472#post10480472
[19:28] <danub> holy crap, an hour to update. did that much really change between 10.04 and 10.10?
[19:28] <intel352> jrib: thanks
[19:28] <ohsix> middle: what says it can't be removed?
[19:28] <nikolay> ciao
[19:29] <uRock> ohsix, manufacturer stats are uninportant as has been proven manufacturers do lie about stats for sales
[19:29] <jrib> frankbro: does it happen when compiling other software/
[19:29] <azm> meh, it shows 10.2 but I nstalled 10.1
[19:29] <Flyingfox_> ActionParsnip It didnt give me back the internet icon still.  It reset everythign else though
[19:29] <ohsix> danub: updated packages are all over the place, you're basically getting a ton of them, even when stuff doesn't change much
[19:29] <azm> it must get automatic update or something
[19:29] <bc81> azm mind if i ask what the problem you're havin gis?  just curious (plus i joined late)
[19:29] <frankbro> jrib: My first time seeing this
[19:29] <wng-> Does ubuntu 10.04 support booting off a mdRAID10 partition
[19:29] <middle> woooooooo
[19:29] <homunculus> quick question: how long should it take to boot from a USB on a netbook? i was trying yesterday and it was taking longer than 30 minutes so I gave up
[19:30] <azm> bc81, flash (32bit) is chewing 1gb RAM and 60 cpu
[19:30] <ohsix> uRock: again, completely besides the point, you are conflating fact and fiat; and you still haven't provided the model number, this is also offtopic for the channel, i ask that if you're going to continue presenting your opinion as fact, do it somewhere elses, i personally will call it every time i see it
[19:30] <azm> maybe I should reinstall the flash installer too
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Mouka add: options snd-hda-intel model=hp  in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:31] <uRock> ohsix, now that you have lost, you are trying to end the conversation that you started?
[19:31] <Pici> uRock, ohsix: You've already been asked to cease this discussion here.  Please move to #ubuntu-offtopic or desist.
[19:31] <alisalaah> Is there any disadvantage to using sudo tasksel install lamp-server over installing AMP by themselves?
[19:31] <ohsix> uRock: model number, or buy a laptop with a lithium polymer battery from dell. full stop. you made the assertions, we've all lost
[19:32] <jrib> frankbro: hmm... are dashes maybe not legal characters in that context?
[19:32] <bc81> you guys are going to get the kops called on you
[19:32] <uRock> whatever....
[19:32] <bc81> *claps*
[19:32] <pushpop-> I just attached an external esata hd to my computer how would I browse to it in CLI?
[19:32] <juk> thanks everybody!
[19:32] <ohsix> you messed up my windows :\
[19:33] <wng-> pushpop-: mount the disk device to a directory and cd into it
[19:33] <pushpop-> on my desktop its mounted
[19:33] <pushpop-> I see it
[19:33] <pushpop-> but where on the filesystem is it located
[19:33] <frankbro> jrib: I have no idea
[19:33] <noob> Grrr fresh install of Ubuntu netbook edition leaves me with a load of driver problems
[19:34] <wng-> pushpop-: type in mount, it wil list devices that are mounted and where they are mounted
[19:34] <jrib> frankbro: alright, one sec, trying to look it up
[19:34] <pushpop-> wng- thanks!
[19:34] <Elssha> hi
[19:34] <bc81> hi Elssha
[19:34] <duke3d> does anyone play Quake Live on Linux in here?
[19:34] <Elssha> hi bc
[19:34] <Chikokishi> I have 10.04 and i cant find the option to upgrade to 10.10 in the update manager.
[19:35] <Elssha> anyone familiar with nvram-wakeup?
[19:35] <bubble_> dr_willis: i installed the kubuntu-desktop package but its making it heavy, ubuntu is going slow
[19:35] <xangua> Chikokishi: software centre>edit>sources>update
[19:36] <Elssha> anyone familiar with nvram-wakeup?
[19:36] <azm> ok, downgrade helped
[19:36] <frankbro> jrib: I saw a forum saying not to use #! /bin/sh at top but #!/bin/bash instead, trying that
[19:36] <Onryo> Seems there might be a bug in Mavericks X-server or X.Org. A few days ago the color black became transparent. If I watch a flash video, start a VMware vm, use wine the color black stays transparent. Using Nvidia blob drivers with a 210 card.
[19:37] <Chikokishi> xangua what is software centre? is that the package manager?
[19:37] <azm> also good link for all version of software http://mirror.umoss.org/ubuntu/
[19:37] <Chikokishi> xangua nevermind i found it
[19:37] <jrib> frankbro: hmm, at the top of what?
[19:38] <Elssha> anyone familiar with nvram-wakeup?
[19:38] <frankbro> jrib: the configure file that is made
[19:38] <ohsix> Elssha: you could ask a question people that were might answer
[19:38] <jrib> frankbro: I see, strange that it would be sourcing bash completion files somehow anyway
[19:39] <Elssha> so many new ppl popping in i figured i might find someone familiar with it
[19:39] <Elssha> i've been trying to get it to work
[19:39] <Elssha> but i got back an error about my mainboard not being supported
[19:39] <damiankuba> witam
[19:39] <Elssha> and that i'm supposed to send it somewhere but not the details
[19:40] <Elssha> hejka kuba
[19:40] <damiankuba> jestem 1 raz na linuxie :)
[19:40] <jrib> !pl | damiankuba
[19:40] <frankbro> jrib: Nope, didnt solve it :(
[19:41] <ad_kastelijn_khv> when i login i have to choose a session. Up to last time, I did not have to. How can i get rid of this??
[19:42] <juk> yaiks, so nice now
[19:42] <Elssha> anyone familiar with nvram-wakeup?   I need to know how i'm supposed to send the mainboard info to get it supported
[19:43] <Elssha> or a different way to get the computer to power on (from suspend) automatically
[19:43] <raven> possible to install an ubuntu system booting up sysresccd?
[19:44] <bullgard> llutz: I presume that you meant "read man-pages (3)" and not "read man-pages (2). -- '~$ man 2 gethostid' says: "sethostid()  sets a unique 32-bit identifier for the current machine.  The 32-bit identifier is intended to be unique among all Unix systems in existence.  This normally resembles the Internet address for the local machine, as returned by gethostbyname(3), and thus usually never...
[19:44] <bullgard> ...needs to be set." What is the purpose of this "unique 32-bit identifier for the current machine"?
[19:44] <jrib> frankbro: I'm asking #bash about the '-'... getting conflicting responses :)
[19:44] <danub> jrib, what you asking for?
[19:44] <aeon-ltd> is there a channel for wireless router talk?
[19:45] <Elssha> or a different way to get the computer to power on (from suspend) automatically
[19:45] <Elssha> anyone familiar with nvram-wakeup?   I need to know how i'm supposed to send the mainboard info to get it supported
[19:45] <jrib> danub: if '-' is a legal character in a function name
[19:45] <Elssha> or a different way to get the computer to power on (from suspend) automatically
[19:45] <llutz> bullgard: just to identify a machine, some software-licenses use it. and no, i meant "man 2 gethostid/sethostid"
[19:45] <danub> i think it is as long as it doesn't start with the dash
[19:45] <bc81> !patience | Elssha, have you created a thread on the forum?  might get some help there
[19:47] <ad_kastelijn_khv> when i login i have to choose a session. Up to last time, I did not have to. How can i get rid of this??
[19:47] <raven> possible to run the ubuntu installation booting up sysresccd?
[19:48] <gbsr> so this "me" menu when adding things like irc/msn etc. how does it work? does it just sync to your preferred IM software or what?
[19:48] <tiger_> ciao
[19:49] <ohsix> raven: anythings possible, but is there a reason using the iso images provided isn't acceptable?
[19:49] <kayque> oi
[19:50] <ohsix> the kayque is a lie
[19:50] <frankbro> jrib: Its compiling from source, I doubt amd would make such a stupid mistake and I wouldnt be the first asking about this problem no ?
[19:50] <kayque> tem gente ai
[19:50] <frankbro> jrib: I though it was more a problem with a install of mine or something
[19:50] <kayque> eu vou sair falou
[19:50] <ohsix> frankbro: i lost my buffer when i was kicked, what was your problem?
[19:51] <bullgard> man 2 gethostid
[19:51] <juk> ohsix: you can always read logs...
[19:51] <ohsix> juk: if i had them
[19:52] <IanWizard> How can I change the timezone from the command line.
[19:52] <jrib> frankbro: well /etc/bash_completion.d/apport_completion provides completion for apport, it's not something that would get used during compile at all
[19:52] <ohsix> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata isn't it?
[19:52] <frankbro> ohsix: Trying to compile amd codeanalyst from source. Getting an error during the ./configure step. /etc/bash_completion.d/apport_completion: line 129: `_apport-bug': not a valid identifier
[19:52] <ad_kastelijn_khv> when i login i have to choose a session. Up to last time, I did not have to. How can i get rid of this??
[19:52] <Linda_92> helo, I was planning to buy a new laptop.. But I wonder if there is a laptop model that is 100% ubuntu compatible.. is there such thing? or should I analyze every laptop hardware peice (video card, sound card, wlan, etc...)
[19:52] <ohsix> frankbro: ah to that, i wouldn't be surprised if that was overlooked, not really a stupid mistake
[19:53] <Elssha> ubottu; what part of the forum would i post this in?
[19:53] <ohsix> frankbro: the only way it would know about it is trying to parse the output of the "set" bash builtin
[19:53] <ChogyDan> Linda_92: what kind of laptop?
[19:53] <IanWizard> ad_kastelijn_khv, system72
[19:53] <erUSUL> !hcl | Linda_92
[19:54] <Elssha> bc81: what part of the forum would i post this in?
[19:54] <ad_kastelijn_khv> IanWizard, what do you mean?
[19:54] <edoardo> ciao ragazzi
[19:54] <Linda_92> ChogyDan: I like Dell and HP the most.. but if there is toshiba or some some other vendor you prefer please advice..
[19:55] <guntbert> !it | edoardo
[19:55] <IanWizard> ad_kastelijn_khv, google system72, they make laptops.  (or system76)
[19:55] <ohsix> IanWizard: try dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[19:56] <bullgard> llutz: Ah! Thank you for explaining. --  A minor supplementing question: If I tpye 'man 2 gethostid' Maverick will present a page headlined: "GETHOSTID(3), Linux Programmer's Manual, GETHOSTID(3)." Why changes the digit 2 to 3?
[19:56] <gbsr> if you're going laoptop, stay away from hp. they have a crippled bios and the new ones comes with switchble hybrid graphics, which ubuntu has a lot of problems with. my dv6 second gen is forced to run on the intel card, keeping the ati card shutoff.
[19:56] <WRStone> I'm attempting to create my first package for inclusion in my PPA. It's quite simple: just a collection of Truetype fonts that I always install and would rather do it via a .deb than manually install every time I bring up a new box.
[19:56] <WRStone> This should be fairly straightforward: ultimately, all that happens is a bunch of .ttf files get copied to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/wrstone.com, and the font cache is rebuilt. However, I've been banging my head on the package creation for a couple of days without much success. I've built RPM packages for this before, but the Debian package is apparently an order of magnitude more complex.
[19:56] <WRStone> Any comments, suggestions, advice, assistance, or nasty remarks would be appreciated.
[19:56] <ohsix> IanWizard: but you can also change it from the calendar widget
[19:56] <FloodBot1> WRStone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <ChogyDan> Linda_92: no I dont, but I think you gotta check each part of the hardware, as you said
[19:56] <ad_kastelijn_khv> ianwizard, I am only looking for a solution for the selection of session at the beginning at login
[19:56] <LeGambitteur> hi there
[19:56] <IanWizard> ad_kastelijn_khv, sorry, wrong nick :)
[19:56] <klj613-> im trying to install netbeans-php i downloaded the sh file and run it as a program but nothing happens
[19:57] <frankbro> ohsix, jbrie: If not, do you know any tool to do thread profiling for an amd processor. Im thinking multithreading timeline, like vtune for intel
[19:57] <IanWizard> Linda_92, google system72 (or system76)  they make ubuntu laptops.
[19:57] <ohsix> WRStone: you just need more than a spec file :D you can try apt-get source and using one of the existing font packages if you want an example
[19:57] <ad_kastelijn_khv> ianwizard, i thought so, no hard feelings, it is really crowed here!!
[19:57] <llutz> bullgard: seems its the same page in section 2 and 3, i don't know
[19:57] <ohsix> frankbro: nope, only simulators; most sampling profilers should be good enough, they wont instrument binaries though
[19:58] <Linda_92> IanWizard: did you try these laptops? are they reliable.. I never heard of them...
[19:58] <ad_kastelijn_khv> when i login i have to choose a session. Up to last time, I did not have to. How can i get rid of this??
[19:58] <IanWizard> ohsix, but I'm trying to do it from the command line, I don't have the calendar widget.
[19:58] <ohsix> IanWizard: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[19:58] <IanWizard> ad_kastelijn_khv, choosing a session should be optional.
[19:58] <cgiovanny> hola
[19:58] <WRStone> ohsix: Trust me, I've tried.  For some reason, the build objects that my .tar.gz isn't a tarfile and stops.
[19:59] <IanWizard> ohsix, thank you, that did the trick ;D
[19:59] <ad_kastelijn_khv> ianwizard, how then. all i know is i get session id ad and default to choose from
[19:59] <danub> is there a file on a linux system that tells me about the system? what operating system it's running, what version, disk space, hardware, etc?
[19:59] <ohsix> WRStone: you might need a private key to sign things and say its legit, i'm positive the debian wiki has something to say about it
[19:59] <s0u][ight> hello, what is the name of the volume indicator in unity?
[19:59] <Chelsea> Hi all... ^-Z in Gvim doesnt' drop to shell in 10.10. Is that normal?
[19:59] <IanWizard> ad_kastelijn_khv, is this like a popup or something?  or it it the little dropdown at the bottom?
[20:00] <erUSUL> danub: no not a single file has all that info
[20:00] <dr_willis> danub,  theres /proc/ with lots of files with loits of info. :) like cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:00] <dr_willis> danub,  theres some tools that gather all the info and make a nice report.. but i forget their names  'hwinfo' perhaps.
[20:00] <klj613-> im trying to install netbeans-php i downloaded the sh file and run it as a program but nothing happens
[20:00] <ad_kastelijn_khv> ianwizard, it looks like a dropdown at the bottum when i did login
[20:01] <Prinler> i think this applies to me http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Analog_Sound_DVI_to_HDMI Can someone help me with one of the steps? it wont let me open a file.. dunno why
[20:01] <danub> only 1200 more packages to download :(
[20:01] <danub> ill be back in like 2 hours lol
[20:01] <WRStone> ohsix: I've got my key, and it's uploaded.  I'm not getting to that part, yet.  I can generate the ./debian directory, edit the files appropriately, but the build step dies complaining that my tarball isn't one.  Googling the error only gives me the source code from various scripts, not the reason for the message.  'Cause it's definitely a gzipped tarball.  ;)
[20:01] <lighta> 1200 package ??
[20:02] <danub> updating from 10.04 to 10.10
[20:02] <lighta> ahh ok
[20:02] <danub> taking FOREVER....
[20:02] <rcaskey> I'v got my choice between an ATI FireProTM  V4800, a Quadro FX 580, a Quadro FX 380, a Quadro NVS 295, and an ATI FireProTM 2260. Which one is gonna give me the least headaches with compiz?
[20:02] <pog> are there know problem with the dhclient function, not to bring the correct Nameservers?
[20:02] <lighta> and yet, hope you don't have issue haha
[20:02] <damiankuba> czesc wszystkim
[20:02] <danub> oh well. i didnt wanna do any work today anyway lol. Cya later (thanks for the info on updating jrib)
[20:02] <ohsix> WRStone: i mean signing the source package, like the .dsc for the source package
[20:02] <ChogyDan> WRStone: can you link to the buildlog?
[20:03] <khafra> I just installed the latest updates, rebooted, and now 10 seconds after logging in I can no longer access any active elements of Gnome
[20:03] <danub> lol lighta yeah, im hoping it goes ok. the nouvea thing threw me for a loop, but thats squared away now and hopefully wont be an issue
[20:03] <pog> at the moment I have a strange problem, that resolv.conf get "strange" Nameservers. Under QEMU the Nameservers in case of dhcp are wrong.
[20:03] <khafra> Can't move windows around, click on menus, anything
[20:03] <khafra> This is a terminal window I opened before the gui freeze.
[20:03] <Jessen> Good evening, everyone =)
[20:04] <dr_willis> khafra,  do you have a title bar at the top f the windows?
[20:04] <khafra> dr_willis: Yup
[20:04] <ohsix> khafra: try ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+alt+f7 to switch to a console and back; some grabs can do that and if you're lucky it'll break it
[20:04] <dr_willis> khafra,  odd. Not sure what to suggest then.   'metacity --replace' might kick it in the head also.
[20:05] <khafra> dr_willis: No luck switching to any of my consoles--already had to do that a few times to try rebooting
[20:05] <wjlroe> If I boot with a monitor connected to VGA on my laptop - the login screen never appears, it hangs on the ubuntu logo - anyone know why that is?
[20:05] <khafra> I mean, ohsix
[20:05] <ohsix> khafra: if you can't switch than that's interesting indeed
[20:05] <khafra> ohsix: I can switch, it just doesn't help
[20:05] <ohsix> ok
[20:06] <khafra> I'll have to quit irssi to try metacity --replace
[20:06] <ad_kastelijn_khv> when i login i have to choose a session. Up to last time, I did not have to. How can i get rid of this??
[20:06] <ohsix> khafra: can you login on the terminal and do DISPLAY=:0 xlsclients
[20:06] <mehdi> does anyone knows how can i setup windows VPN connection in ubuntu?
[20:06] <dr_willis> irssi can run shell commands.
[20:06] <dr_willis>   /exec somthing   i recall
[20:07] <ohsix> mehdi: what type of vpn is it? network-manager can do almost all of them, you just need to install the packages for the vpn type
[20:07] <jrib> frankbro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/596149 is *somewhat* relevant
[20:07] <mehdi> well its example.pbk and i wanto set it
[20:07] <mix22891> how can i change the lunguge, please ?
[20:07] <mix22891> to mine
[20:07] <mehdi> but i donno how
[20:08] <chadi> How can I get the name of the wi-fi network I am connected to using the terminal and without requiring root access?
[20:08] <ohsix> mehdi: that's a phone book file, i'm not sure how its related
[20:08] <nox> Salut all
[20:09] <erUSUL> chadi: iwconfig wlan0
[20:09] <pushpop-> what is the command to install a .deb in ubuntu?
[20:09] <mehdi> @ohsix well it comes from windows and it contains vpn info
[20:09] <chadi> erUSUL: thank you :)
[20:09] <jrib> pushpop-: gdebi or dpkg -i.  But make sure your deb is for your ubuntu version
[20:09] <erUSUL> pushpop-: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[20:09] <pushpop-> ok
[20:10] <frankbro> jrib: setting back the /bin/sh link to dash makes it work and I can also login from the normal gdm login screen. ?
[20:10] <jrib> frankbro: you need to read the comments for it be *somewhat* relevant
[20:10] <khafra> Nope, didn't help
[20:10] <frankbro> jrib: so my bin/sh link would be broken?
[20:10] <ohsix> chadi: nm-tool can show all the network manager state, too
[20:10] <jrib> frankbro: I'm not suggesting you do anything in that bug report, just that it may have useful information
[20:10] <ohsix> mehdi: you'd need the info out of the file before you could hope to connect with it
[20:10] <khafra> I have a tail -f going on /var/log/messages, and nothing comes up when everything stops working
[20:10] <chadi> ohsix: thank you, will try that too
[20:11] <jrib> frankbro: like I said, if you don't really care, just move the file temporarily, compile, then put it back.  You don't need the completion really...
[20:11] <mix22891> can i change the system lunguge from english to hebrew ?
[20:11] <ohsix> chadi: if you want to change networkmanager settings, that's to nmcli ... for some reason :] (but credentials people use come from nm-applet! so it's somewhat confusing)
[20:11] <mehdi> @ohsix well it runs with gedit and have so many things plus if u put that file in windows it turns out to be conection
[20:12] <jrib> mix22891: sure, at the login screen you can select your language
[20:12] <ohsix> mix22891: System -> Administration -> Language support
[20:12] <mehdi> and all i need is how to use it in linux
[20:12] <mickster04> hey, so i installed ubunt and put grub on sda1 which is where windows is, now i can't boot into windows
[20:12] <mickster04> it just loops to grub all the time
[20:12] <meLon> How do I tell scp to be quiet and not print every file it is copying to terminal?  Should I just direct output to /dev/null ?
[20:12] <chadi> ohsix: nope, I just want to read it for proxy configuration settings
[20:12] <bencahill_> hmm, /proc/cpuinfo tells me this CPU is running at 1000MHz, yet it should be a 1.8, what should I do? :-/
[20:12] <wasiakp89> ohsix, you're dea* right!
[20:13] <ohsix> chadi: well it's always good to give the whole bag for related tasks if you can
[20:13] <erUSUL> meLon: man scp --> -q      Quiet mode: disables the progress meter as well as warning and diagnostic messages from ssh(1).
[20:13] <pushpop-> is there a way to tell if you are on ubuntu 32 or 64bit?
[20:13] <Loshki> meLon: try -q for quiet mode in scp
[20:13] <jrib> pushpop-: uname -m
[20:13] <khafra> ohsix: This time, the GUI started working again, about 20 seconds after it froze. Still nothing on /var/log/messages
[20:13] <pushpop-> x86_64?? means what
[20:13] <pushpop-> 64bit?
[20:13] <ohsix> wasiakp89: thankfully you can clear most of the confusion, and even have networkmanager connect before you log in if you mark a connection as "available to all users" in the connection properties from nm-applet
[20:13] <ohsix> khafra: try ~/.xsession-errors
[20:14] <bencahill_> pushpop-: yeah
[20:14] <pushpop-> thx
[20:14] <guntbert> pushpop-: yes, and i386 = 32
[20:14] <pushpop-> kk
[20:14] <ohsix> khafra: and xlsclients, it shows everything connected and the culprit is somewhere in there
[20:14] <bencahill_> guntbert: although I thought ubuntu used "amd64" to designate 64-bit... :-/
[20:15] <meLon> thanks erUSUL Loshki
[20:15] <guntbert> bencahill_: it used to, long ago
[20:15] <ohsix> wasiakp89: it's actually nice networkmanager can get credentials from lots of places, it just happens that nm-applet uses the keyring, which is also good; but if you're trying to get wifi up from single user mode, getting stuff out of the key and giving it to networkmanager is Hard(TM)
[20:15] <bencahill_> guntbert: ah, k
[20:15] <kl0x> hi people
[20:15] <kl0x> I have a simple question
[20:16] <guntbert> !ask | kl0x
[20:16] <wasiakp89> ok
[20:16] <bencahill_> so, anyone know why my sempron is running slower than it should?
[20:16] <kl0x> when I try to change my user , I am asked for the user again, can I change that behaviour
[20:16] <mkanyicy> kl0x, your question is soooo simple!
[20:16] <kl0x> you're right,
[20:16] <kl0x> lol it is
[20:17] <guntbert> !sudo | kl0x
[20:17] <bencahill_> kl0x: what do you mean "I am asked for the user again"?
[20:18] <Elssha> is giving your BIOS version a security risk?
[20:18] <kl0x> Ok, I've got three users and I'm using user A, I want to change the session to user B and it goes to gdm login and asks me the user and password
[20:18] <kl0x> I'd prefer to be asked for the pass rightaway
[20:18] <Elssha> not too sure what that is so...
[20:18] <jrib> kl0x: how would it know the user you want to switch to?
[20:18] <kl0x> Because it gives me that option
[20:18] <kl0x> that's what I dont understand
[20:18] <jrib> kl0x: ah, in that case it's stupid :)
[20:19] <kl0x> I do not choose "Change session" or "Close session"
[20:19] <kl0x> I choose user name directly
[20:19] <llutz> Elssha: its the version-number of your machines BIOS, nothing to worry about
[20:19] <kl0x> It was the same behaviour in 10.04
[20:19] <bullgard> llutz: Thank you again very much for your help.
[20:20] <Elssha> okay, just wanted to make sure i wasn't putting something sensitive on the forums
[20:20] <jrib> kl0x: might check http://bugs.ubuntu.com while you wait
[20:20] <wasiakp89> elssha - it's charming
[20:22] <llutz> Elssha: have you checked if "rtcwake" works with your machine and could replace nvram-wakeup?
[20:23] <UsrNckTry1> Hello. :) If I use Gufw (GUI for Uncomplicated Firewall) and set it to "allow" incoming and deny outgoing (connections), will it hinder my ability to use programs such as XChat or Transmission?
[20:23] <UsrNckTry1> sorry, to deny incoming and allow outgoing
[20:24] <lostson> UsrNckTry1: shouldnt as long as you set things up right
[20:24] <I_L_L> hey everyone
[20:24] <erUSUL> UsrNckTry1: xchat no problem. bittorrent can work with ports blocked but worls best with it open.
[20:24] <kl0x> I didn't think about it
[20:24] <supertux432> anyone use virtualbox and firestarter here?
[20:25] <UsrNckTry1> lostson: that's just it, I don't know if I have to set anything else in order to "set things right"... :(
[20:25] <ohsix> some irc servers will reject you if they can't get ident, but you probably don't have it installed anyways
[20:25] <khafra> ohsix: That log provided some interesting googling fodder; thanks.  xlsclients is a good list to have, too
[20:25] <lostson> UsrNckTry1: no there isnt much to it just install it and your irc and other things should work fine
[20:25] <I_L_L> I have a problem with Wine, can you help me out please ?
[20:25] <ohsix> khafra: no problem, good luck
[20:25] <UsrNckTry1> erUSUL: what do you mean by best with it open?
[20:26] <guntbert> I_L_L: ask in #winehq please
[20:26] <UsrNckTry1> lostson: thanks, you gave me some peace of mind :)
[20:26] <ohsix> UsrNckTry1: if 2 peers don't have a single port open amongst, they can't talk to eachother
[20:26] <I_L_L> ok
[20:26] <Elssha> on another note
[20:26] <erUSUL> UsrNckTry1: http://www.btfaq.com/serve/cache/25.html
[20:26] <Elssha> anyone know how to install the log-in themes into the newer release?
[20:27] <Elssha> when i tried the one on the forums i got it to the point where the background was changed, but nothing else
[20:27] <ohsix> UsrNckTry1: why do you want to firewall everything, do you have services running you don't want? if you want to firewall all the listen()'ing a user program can do, just firewall 1024-20000 or so, and set the user port limit to 20000
[20:27] <auro1> hello
[20:27] <kl0x> Ok, I gtg, thanks for your help jrib
[20:27] <auro1> Is there a way to make applications start automatically
[20:28] <auro1> in a specific workspace
[20:28] <auro1> when you log in?
[20:28] <ohsix> UsrNckTry1: portmap and stuff will break, so nfs wont work; and nothing else you might need come to mind at the moment
[20:28] <kl0x> thank you everyone, c ya
[20:28] <UsrNckTry1> ohsix: There's not anything I don't wish to run, it's just that I thought I might be somewhat safer with a firewall... Was I wrong?
[20:29] <ohsix> UsrNckTry1: it's safer for sure, but quantifying how much isn't easy; and it might in the end only be very slight
[20:29] <moparisthebest> my root partition just went read only, can I safely run an fsck on it while the system is running on it read only?
[20:30] <ohsix> moparisthebest: no, it's not safe
[20:30] <erUSUL> moparisthebest: nope better use a livecd. see « dmesg » it may have info on why it went ro
[20:30] <moparisthebest> so how do I run one then?  It's a server, so I can't use a livecd
[20:31] <ohsix> you need to unmount it to do it, whatever gets doing that
[20:31] <moparisthebest> this is the error:
[20:31] <moparisthebest> [3333860.011409] EXT3-fs error (device md4): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=29545028, block=118161702
[20:31] <ohsix> that's a problem
[20:31] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, try 'sudo mount / -o rw,remount && sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot'
[20:31] <moparisthebest> i don't know if its safe to mount it rw again
[20:32] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, ok then reboot into the recovery mode  and fsck
[20:32] <ohsix> moparisthebest: try hdparm --read-sector 118161702 /dev/md4 (or wherever the md device is)
[20:32] <ohsix> mkanyicy: not yet, his disk is damaged, best to see what kind
[20:33] <Prinler> CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
[20:33] <erUSUL> raid array
[20:33] <mkanyicy> ohsix, disk is damaged? are you sure?
[20:33] <Prinler> god i hope this change to Xserver config doesnt nuke it
[20:33] <ohsix> moparisthebest: anything else is going to need smartmontools so if it isn't installed already theres not much to do
[20:33] <moparisthebest> it looks like it could be damaged
[20:33] <moparisthebest> I believe it is ohsix
[20:33] <ohsix> mkanyicy: things are generally readable when they work :D
[20:34] <ohsix> moparisthebest: ok see if that hdparm command returns an io error
[20:34] <mkanyicy> ohsix, i used to have that problem before
[20:34] <moparisthebest> it appears readable, but it mounted it ro
[20:34] <mkanyicy> ohsix, i dont think its a hardware failure at all
[20:34] <moparisthebest> I actually have an empty drive in there i was about to copy stuff to
[20:34] <moparisthebest> so I think I'll mount it and rsync everything over before I start running commands on this drive
[20:34] <moparisthebest> sounds like a good idea, right?
[20:35] <ohsix> mkanyicy: it doesn't have to be with dm in the middle, but any read error that made it to the fs driver or a user program is bad
[20:35] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, try to restart your computer again without doing anything and see if ever it still comes readonly or not
[20:35] <moparisthebest> mkanyicy, but then I run the risk of it not coming up at all
[20:35] <ohsix> moparisthebest: do you know what disk in the array that sector is on?
[20:35] <matthewrbowker> Allright, I have a quick question.  I have ubuntu 9.10 installed on an Asus EEEpc 1000HD.  When I boot, everything works fine until I get to the login screen.  The login screen displays as a condensed series of white bars, and I can't menuver at all.  I'm forced to use Windows :(  Anyone have any ideas?
[20:36] <moparisthebest> yes, because there is only one disk in the array :/
[20:36] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, oh boy, good luck then
[20:36] <ohsix> moparisthebest: if not, do smartctl -x /dev/{all of them in the set}, and post the output
[20:36] <ohsix> (to a pastebin)
[20:37] <moparisthebest> smartctl doesn't take -x, did you mean something else ohsix?
[20:37] <RedXIII> The gnome-power-manager shows the wrong  battery status. Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[20:37] <ohsix> it does take an x, are you using 9.10 or 10.04?
[20:37] <RedXIII> That is, to say that currently the icon in the gnomenotification area shows as charging, but I'm discharging on battery right now
[20:37] <moparisthebest> 10.04
[20:37] <RedXIII> Is there a setting somewhere I missed?
[20:37] <ohsix> but it doesn't matter, -x is just for extended reporting, or falling back to -a; you can do smartctl -a instead
[20:37] <UsrNckTry1> erUSUL: that BitTorent FAQ was nice, although, along with what ohsix said, it makes me think firewall might be a lot of work to set up properly, with little gain... Thanks for your help guys (or girls, no offense meant) :D
[20:38] <ResQue> how can i draw a hash key on ubuntu 10.10 with a Mac Keyboard
[20:38] <erUSUL> UsrNckTry1: no problem
[20:38] <ResQue> i thought it used to be alt+3
[20:38] <ohsix> RedXIII: look at the output of upower --dump and see if it shows the same information
[20:38] <mikhas> hi, where can I get proper libqt4 packages for 10.04?
[20:38] <RedXIII> ohsix, it shows the wrong information
[20:38] <ohsix> mikhas: what makes the one in 10.04 not "proper"
[20:38] <RedXIII>   on-battery:      no
[20:39] <mikhas> it's not 4.7, ohsix
[20:39] <RedXIII> It shows charging.
[20:39] <mikhas> IE, too old
[20:39] <Prinler> How do i "Run an X server with enough verbosity to print out the EDID block"
[20:39] <moparisthebest> ohsix, http://pastebin.com/bZVn2aqu
[20:39] <ohsix> RedXIII: ok, you might want to install fwts and run the battery tests
[20:39] <RedXIII> battery tests?
[20:39] <ohsix> RedXIII: yep, "fwts battery"
[20:40] <ResQue> i found the answer, i need to choose a level 3 key, in system > Preferences > Keyboard > layout > options
[20:40] <ohsix> moparisthebest: ok, you have pending sectors, so there was a hard read error; one sec
[20:40] <insano> How can I setup virtual IPs with NetworkManager? I don't want to use /etc/network/interfaces
[20:40] <RedXIII> ohsix, Ah. I'm on campus right now and I'm not near a plug to run the tests. What would I do with that information?
[20:41] <ohsix> RedXIII: it'll tell you where its wrong, and give you grist for a decent bug report
[20:41] <toresbe> hey folks - TV out stopped working after upgrading to natty - TV is detected, but no output. Any suggestions on how I can narrow this down, so that I may write a decent bug report (and get to watch stuff on my TV)? :)
[20:41] <toresbe> Everything in xorg.0.log is hunky-dorey. If I try to disable the KMS, I simply get the VESA driver.
[20:41] <RedXIII> ohsix, I see. So I'd need to submit a bug report?
[20:42] <mikhas> ok, let me rephrase then: where can I get libqt4 >= 4.7 for 10.04? ;-)
[20:42] <jsimmons> I'm getting a weird error where at boot plymouth complains about my drives having serious errors, but upon inspection they're perfectly fine.
[20:42] <jsimmons> No errors from fsck and no errors when manually mounting
[20:42] <ohsix> moparisthebest: try smartctl -t select,159811400+100, after that, look at the output of smartctl -l selftest
[20:42] <Prinler> How do i "Run an X server with enough verbosity to print out the EDID block" Hate to report
[20:42] <Prinler> repost lol
[20:43] <ohsix> RedXIII: if it's broke, sure; but i don't know of anything as definitive as fwts to check that
[20:43] <guntbert> !repeat | Prinler
[20:43] <ohsix> RedXIII: you'd need to plug in ac to check things manually as well
[20:43] <michaelc> callahan
[20:43] <yrlnry> I installed a new driver in /lib/firmware.  My instructions, which are a few years old, say to restart hald to get it to notice the new driver.  My system doesn't have hald.  Is the correct modern version of this to restart udev?
[20:43] <RedXIII> Yeah. I'll have to do that later. thanks.
[20:43] <alien__> Need help with enabling acl within fstab ... have the following within fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/570238/  to my understanding i need to edit fstab defaults to rw,acl 1 1 ... can someone help?
[20:43] <RedXIII> It has to be broken if its showing the wrong information x_x.
[20:44] <mickster04> How do i fix grub? I put it on sda1 and it's boots ubuntu fine, but windows is on sda1 and now it won't boot, just loops round....
[20:44] <ohsix> jsimmons: try tunning the disk utility and looking at the drive, you can get to it through the menus or by pressing alt+f2 and typing in palimpsest
[20:44] <ohsix> RedXIII: it can just be a fluke too
[20:44] <jsimmons> yeah it's not showing any errors either ohsix, just checked there.
[20:44] <ohsix> RedXIII: do you boot with noacpi or anything like that?
[20:44] <RedXIII> I didn't change any boot flags.
[20:44] <mkanyicy> !grub | mickster04
[20:44] <ohsix> RedXIII: if you look at dmesg do you see any messages about the battery being added
[20:45] <mickster04> mkanyicy: yeah not helpful
[20:45] <mkanyicy> mickster04, what is not helpful?
[20:45] <CODY565565> heyy can someone help with my  ubuntu
[20:45] <RedXIII> [    2.462550] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
[20:45] <ohsix> jsimmons: /var/log/messages should have the same stuff plymouth was using to show the message in it
[20:45] <mickster04> mkanyicy: that link, it doesnt have a case for my problem
[20:45] <mkanyicy> mickster04, grub2 or grub legacy?
[20:45] <mickster04> mkanyicy: 1010. so grub2
[20:46] <RedXIII> Also, there isn't a boot screen when I boot ubuntu. It just shows the contents of dmesg
[20:46] <erUSUL> yrlnry: depends. it may be needed to restart udisks? what driver it is?
[20:46] <ohsix> RedXIII: you can _try_ killing upowerd, i think it will restart; but no guarantees
[20:46] <mkanyicy> mickster04, pastebin 'sudo parted -l
[20:47] <t-rask> If anyone here is familiar with VOCPROC (auto-tuner), I'm having trouble actually getting it going? I know it says it's an "LV2 plugin" but I'm not sure exactly what that means or what I have to do to run it..
[20:47] <RedXIII> Its been like this ever since I installed ubuntu 10.10
[20:47] <RedXIII> I don't think its a 1-time fluke.
[20:47] <mkanyicy> mickster04, have you already attempted to use 'grub-install'?
[20:47] <yrlnry> erUSUL:  iSight video camera driver.
[20:47] <mkanyicy> t-rask, no one is familiar with that
[20:47] <Roasted> Can I choose rhythmbox to sync with a folder other than my Music folder? I'd like to sync it with a folder on my desktop that has music files in it.
[20:48] <ohsix> t-rask: lv2 plugins are hosted in other programs, you need to use a recording app or another host with it
[20:48] <mikhas> OK, no so Qt 4.7 on 10.04 then?
[20:48] <mickster04> mkanyicy: well grub is installed, it boots into ubuntu fine (sda5)
[20:48] <t-rask> ohsix, other programs such as? I have Ardour, I assumed that would do it?
[20:48] <mickster04> mkanyicy: oh i am not at home atm
[20:48] <UsrNckTry1> erUSUL: if you are not too busy, might I try sending you a small text file? I'm trying to test DCC function, it failed for me before, and I don't have a "guinea pig"... Fell free to reject
[20:48] <mkanyicy> mickster04, well it will be difficult to help you then
[20:49] <ohsix> RedXIII: well like i said; the manual checks you can do show that the information you need for it to work is there, and barring weird boot options or a self built kernel theres not a lot more that can go wrong
[20:49] <mkanyicy> mickster04, but hang on a sec, you say you can load ubuntu with your grub? then what is the real problem?
[20:49] <bc81> Roasted: this might be of help to you > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rhythmbox#Multiple%20Library%20Directories
[20:49] <mickster04> mkanyicy: windows won't get loaded grub just reloads itself
[20:49] <ohsix> t-rask: i don't know personally,  but yes; the recording apps pretty much support all the plugin types there are on linux, lv2 and whatever the other 2 are
[20:49] <RedXIII> ok. I'll run those tests when I get close to an outlet and come back ^^
[20:49] <jsimmons> I can't find anything there either ohsix, it's as if nothing ever happened.
[20:49] <jsimmons> read over the whole boot process
[20:50] <mkanyicy> mickster04, have you ran 'sudo update-grub' on ubuntu?
[20:50] <jsimmons> ah wait in the syslog there's something
[20:50] <mickster04> mkanyicy: yeah
[20:50] <mickster04> I'll get home after work, and try again, then get back on here then if it doesn't work
[20:50] <Roasted> bc81, I tried that exact link. What's weird is in my desktop folder, there is 6gb worth of music that I want to sync to the device. But it comes up saying I have 24gb of music. And that's true. I have 24gb of music in my MUSIC folder. I want to sync to my DESKTOP folder that has 6gb. It's as if it didn't take the setting.
[20:51] <mkanyicy> mickster04,  i guess you might need to do a 'grub-install' again
[20:51] <jsimmons> ohsix, Feb 22 07:37:21 Prime kernel: [    9.474849] EXT2-fs (sdb5): error: can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sdb5.
[20:51] <ohsix> jsimmons: "error" is probably all it needs to see; heh, sounds like fstab has an entry that doesn't work
[20:52] <omoleye> hello
[20:52] <omoleye> is anybody in here
[20:52] <omoleye> hello
[20:52] <yrlnry> erUSUL:  iSight video camera driver, now installed in /lib/firmware/isight.fw .   I restarted udev, and now the "Cheese" app instead of saying it can't find the video device, just hangs.  I guess that's an improvement.  Is there something else I should do?
[20:52] <jsimmons> oh of course, it's moved to sda5 since I messed with the sata ports ohsix
[20:52] <jsimmons> I thought all the fstab entries were using uuids
[20:52] <mickster04> mkanyicy: i just wondered if it was definitly because grub was on the same partition as windows and couldn't get past itself...
[20:52] <guntbert> omoleye: we hear you.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:52] <ohsix> manually added entries tend not to; uuid's are confusing!
[20:53] <Diamondcite> omoleye: "All our representatives are currently busy at the moment, please leave a question in detail and volunteer will be with you in a moment."
[20:53] <JackLeo> anyone could help with makefile?
[20:53] <omoleye> does anybody know how to script a path file input so that the user can use tab key like you normally do in the terminal?
[20:53] <bc81> Roasted: have you tried making an auto playlist with the location set to Desktop folder, then synching that with your device?
[20:53] <chris9812> does anyone know how to use aircrack?
[20:53] <mkanyicy> mickster04, pity you are not at home now, :(
[20:53] <Roasted> bc81, I have not. I'll try that though. I can't BELIEVE what a headache this has been.
[20:53] <mickster04> mkanyicy: yeah
[20:53] <JackLeo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/570251/ has some errors can't understand where and why?
[20:54] <ohsix> chris9812: yes, but it's not really on topic here; and most places where it is would scream at you to read the documentation first
[20:54] <silverarrow> hi again
[20:54] <bc81> Roasted: yah i could have sworn i saw you on yesterday with all kinds of problems :/
[20:54] <Roasted> bc81, yup.
[20:54] <Roasted> bc81, "the sandisk works out of box!" "what a great mp3 player for ubuntu" shove it.
[20:54] <mikhas> sigh, I didnt even get a nice LMGTFY ...
[20:55] <bc81> Roasted: lol good luck man, don't ever give up
[20:55] <mickster04> mikhas: that's because we get told of for using them
[20:55] <Roasted> bc81, I wont ever give up, but the solution may unfortunately require a reboot. if you get my drift.
[20:55] <Roasted> bc81, and that answer I don't like, but ya know what, I gotta use what works.
[20:56] <Roasted> bc81, I don't think its an ubuntu problem, or a sandisk problem. It's gotta be a rhythmbox problem.
[20:56] <CODY565565> how do i give myself more space for ubuntu on my hard drive
[20:56] <CL|Away> Hedgehog456 wants a decent ubuntu burner, suggestions?
[20:56] <Roasted> bc81, banshee finds my device fine. so does ubuntu. does rhythmbox? lol....
[20:56] <jsimmons> Cool thanks ohsix! Fixed up fstab with the proper uuid.
[20:56] <ohsix> moparisthebest: anyways, if it doesn't succeed that self test, that stretch of sectors isn't going to be remapped until you do an offline test, or wait an undetermined amount of time for the firmware to decide to do it :\ (chances are they aren't bad, temperature can cause it sometimes, if Reallocated_Event_Count increases after Current_Pending_Sector goes down, then watch the first, the drive is in a death spiral, either a slow or a fast one)
[20:56] <Diamondcite> Roasted: I'm sorry if I'm intruding.. but can't the files just be copied into the player's music folder and be done with it?
[20:56] <bc81> Roasted: possibly..hehe Exaile is buggy, but does some things quite well
[20:56] <Roasted> Diamondcite, oh yes, easily. But I need to use a program like rhythmbox to set up playlists, which is my goal.
[20:57] <moparisthebest> ohsix, I'm backing up all my files first to a spare drive, then I'll try things
[20:57] <Roasted> Diamondcite, I ride bike for miles at a time. It's irritating to change 1 song at a time when I'm on a 100 mile ride. I'd rather set up a playlist on shuffle and ride to the state line.
[20:57] <moparisthebest> actually, it's a dedicated I pay for, so I'll probably just tell them its bad and have them replace it
[20:57] <Diamondcite> Roasted: I have no idea how that works.. but on a walkman I throw everything into the device and have it sort it out by itself...
[20:58] <moparisthebest> i learned once in the past, the hard way, that just because a drive is mounted ro now, doesn't mean you can reboot and expect to ever mount it again :(
[20:58] <ohsix> moparisthebest: good deal; always nice to go through the motions when you end up having to do that yourself
[20:58] <ohsix> yep, not rebooting was a good idea; if you did you might lose half the disk
[20:58] <ohsix> instead of just that inode it couldn't read
[20:58] <moparisthebest> yea
[20:58] <moparisthebest> i knew this disk had a problem
[20:58] <moparisthebest> because the raid array wouldn't sync
[20:58] <moparisthebest> but it never did this before
[20:58] <ohsix> ah
[20:59] <omoleye> does anyone know how to enable a user to find a path/file like in the terminal using script
[20:59] <moparisthebest> funny thing is I was going to replace it today anyhow :)
[20:59] <moparisthebest> now i'm forced into it
[20:59] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, how did it go?
[20:59] <FrozenKnight> Can anyone tell me of a simple desktop application or widget that can display the current CPU load>
[20:59] <FrozenKnight> ?
[20:59] <Roasted> Diamondcite, if I plug in my sansa in MTP mode, I get this error - Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device
[20:59] <ohsix> it's probably not bad or dying, but its also not worth thinking about it when you have work to do
[20:59] <omoleye> a way for  a user to enter a path of a file into a script
[20:59] <Roasted> Diamondcite, this thing doesn't have a camera. what the f is ubuntu thinking?
[20:59] <moparisthebest> mkanyicy, i'm backing up everything to another disk as we speak
[21:00] <Diamondcite> Roasted: Maybe it hosted a similar protocol? I am assuming mass storage is what is desired..
[21:00] <mkanyicy> Frozenball, right-click the panel and choose 'Add to panel' and look there
[21:00] <Roasted> Diamondcite, MSC mode doesnt work either
[21:00] <Roasted> Diamondcite, maybe I'll just buy an ipod. LOL!!??!?!?!//
[21:00] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, do yo have beagle?
[21:00] <guntbert> omoleye: try asking in #bash
[21:00] <Frozenball> mkanyicy, thanks!
[21:00] <omoleye> ok
[21:00] <omoleye> thanks
[21:00] <moparisthebest> no mkanyicy never heard of it
[21:00] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, even beagle can make a fs to remount as ro
[21:01]  * silverarrow searching for a debian alternative
[21:01]  * silverarrow Ubuntu just doesn't hack it
[21:01] <andrew2> ubntu studio 10.10. I asociated folder links with VLC player and now all places open VLC. How can I fix it to open folders in nautilus?
[21:01] <Diamondcite> Roasted: Just to note, my walkman is just a cellphone...
[21:01] <mickster04> silverarrow: mint is quite good apparently
[21:01] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, honestly i think you are operating on paranoid mode which is good ... but can all in vain
[21:01] <prefrontal> How on earth do I get rid of, banish, excise, never see again, the nouveau driver on  my system?
[21:01] <sincir> hey there! i' m trying to get xcompmgr running together with my windowmanager, but whenever i run xcompmgr in a terminal emulator as normal user, it runs, but "locks" the terminal and when i close the terminal emulator, xcompgmr automatically stops, now i don't know how i can get xcompmgr running without sudo...is there any help for me?
[21:02] <moparisthebest> mkanyicy, like I said, I've had this happen once in the past, rebooted, and everything was gone :P
[21:02] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, anyway making a backup is always the best
[21:02] <moparisthebest> so I'd rather be safe than sorry
[21:02] <silverarrow> mickster04, different trivers and stuff?
[21:02] <moparisthebest> plus, worst case, my last full backup was yesterday
[21:02] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, I agree
[21:02] <moparisthebest> so if everything blows up I lose a day
[21:02] <ohsix> sincir: xcompmgr was pretty much just a demo, is there any reason you still use it?
[21:03] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, at least that is not too bad
[21:03] <bc81> andrew2: edit or delete the file: ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[21:03] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, than losing everything
[21:03] <moparisthebest> nope, I only back up everything every 7 days, so yesterday is pretty good :)
[21:03] <ohsix> moparisthebest: duplicity is great; still scans all files at the source though
[21:03] <prefrontal> i ran this command, nouveau is STILL installed..sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[21:03] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, funny i never gone through those emotions when i encountered this problem over n over
[21:03] <Oer> sincere, add &    > xcompmgr &
[21:03] <sincir> ohsix: 1.) openbox needs it to have some eyecandy (that i REALLY need ;)) 2.) i don't know any alternative yet, you have a hint for me?
[21:04] <mkanyicy> moparisthebest, i dont backup
[21:04] <ohsix> sincir: ah if you're using it with openbox you'll probably need to keep doing it, the alternatives are different window managers
[21:04] <moparisthebest> look into rdiff-backup, it's an excellent tool
[21:04] <andrew2> bc81: are you sure about that? I mean any shortcut to a folder opens in VLC player instead of opening nautilus as folder explorer?
[21:04] <moparisthebest> I used to roll my own scripts using tar.bz2 and such
[21:04] <andrew2> bc81: i'll try it though
[21:04] <moparisthebest> but after discovering rdiff-backup I'm a changed man :)
[21:04] <bc81> andrew2: i'm sure, because i have made this mistake myself :)
[21:05] <andrew2> bc81, okay
[21:05] <ohsix> sincir: compiz, metacity has compositing built in now (based off xcompmgr) kwin ha some stuff, generally any overlapping window manager that's still maintained does some form of compositing
[21:05] <sincir> ohsix: but i'm sure my problem is just some childish rights problem, right?
[21:05] <ohsix> sincir: compiz is the go-to eyecandy choice tho
[21:05] <sincir> ohsix: no, compiz is too much of a load to just have a transparent terminal...
[21:06] <ohsix> sincir: i dunno, running it as root is never right, you probably have some files in your home dir or /tmp that got their permission changed by using sudo; and as a regular user it can't connect
[21:06] <ohsix> ah, shrug, compiz barely ever uses 1% cpu here
[21:06] <sincir> ohsix: which config files in ~ does xcompmgr need to read? Xdefaults?
[21:06] <bc81> andrew2: you probably wanted to open a VIDEO_TS folder with vlc, no?
[21:07] <ohsix> sincir: the .ICEauthority and some others that it gets credentials from to connect to the server
[21:07] <freetz> what happened to linux-image-debug?
[21:07] <antonius> look, i know ati sucks, but why would compiz stop working after installing updates?  grrr
[21:07] <ohsix> sincir: just checking that they're owned by you should be sufficient to see whats going on
[21:07] <ohsix> antonius: what was updated?
[21:08] <andrew2> bc81 it worked. Thanks!
[21:08] <bc81> andrew2: better to associate IFO files with vlc.  you can do this by adding "application/x-extension-IFO=vlc.desktop;" to the mimeapps.list file
[21:08] <bc81> welcome
[21:08] <milen8204> any one who have use g-mount ?
[21:08] <bugs_bugger> hi there! ive got some trouble: i want to install xubuntu on an old machine( cpu 662mhz ram 448mb). alternate cd crashes after selecting install from the bootmenu with the following output visible on screen "Trying to enable the frame buffer..."
[21:08] <JeffCBR> How can I stop eth0?
[21:08] <sincir> is it really ok to have .ICEauthority readable for any user?
[21:08] <bc81> milen, Gmount-iso?  yes
[21:08] <andrew2> bc81 and will that open the dvd to is menu?
[21:08] <khafra> ohsix: Looks like it may very well be flash killing my system. I've put out an open contract on all Adobe VPs, as part of my bugfix attempt
[21:08] <sincir> ohsix: is it really ok to have .ICEauthority readable for any user?
[21:09] <bc81> andrew2: yes, just open the first IFO in the folder
[21:09] <ohsix> sincir: no, it's supposed to be for you, they're your credentials
[21:09] <bc81> andrew2: that will being you the main menu
[21:09] <andrew2> bc81 VIDEO_TS.IFO ?
[21:09] <turbokumbi> busg-bugger: have you tried installing it with the text-based installer?
[21:09] <bc81> milen8204: Gmount-iso?  yes
[21:09] <ohsix> sincir: looks like this here -rw------- 1 ohsix ohsix 3454 2011-02-17 12:07 /home/ohsix/.ICEauthority
[21:09] <bc81> andrew2: yes, i believe so
[21:09] <andrew2> bc81 okay, thanks again. great info
[21:09] <JeffCBR> chmod 600 .ICEauthority
[21:10] <sincir> ohsix: by "any" i mean "me" (atm it's just -rw-------)
[21:10] <ohsix> khafra: nice, are you using nspluginwrapper or an nvidia card?
[21:10] <bugs_bugger> turbokumbi: i did use the textbased one. its lucid 10.04 btw
[21:10] <ohsix> sincir: as long as it says you own it then it's not a problem
[21:10] <bc81> milen8204: what is your question?>
[21:10] <nightshadex101> i have this annoying problem: i have a laptop connected to an external monitor, with both screens on, no mirror. The external monitor is on top of the laptop display, so I configured it like that on the monitor configuration menu. but if i maximize a window on the laptop display, the title bar seems to be covered by the top panel... any way to resolve this?
[21:10] <sincir> ohsix: it looks just like yours: -rw------- 1 ohsix ohsix 3454 2011-02-17 12:07 /home/ohsix/.ICEauthority - so i don't have to change anything?
[21:11] <milen8204> how to g-mount two iso files at the same time ?
[21:11] <khafra> ohsix: nspluginwrapper--but my card is a gefore 9800 GT.  Dunno why Ubuntu chose nspluginwrapper
[21:11] <khafra> At least, I think it's nspluginwrapper. Dunno how to check
[21:11] <ohsix> khafra: well because theres no nonbeta flash plugin, you can purge flashplugin-installer and install the plugin manually
[21:11] <ohsix> khafra: if you're not running the 64bit edition then it's not nspluginwrapper
[21:12] <bc81> milen8204: i never down 2 files at the same time, but maybe all you must do is mount them at different locations eg. /media/iso1  /media/iso2
[21:12] <khafra> I'm on 64bit
[21:12] <khafra> That might explain it.
[21:12] <milen8204> ok i done this but i cant opened the second
[21:12] <milen8204> iso file
[21:12] <khafra> ohsix: 64-bit AMD
[21:12] <bugs_bugger> turbokumbi: i used the textbased installer with this switches: startoptionfile=/cdrom preseed/xubuntu.seed initrd=/installintrd.gz quiet--
[21:13] <turbokumbi> bugs_bugger then no idea here..
[21:13] <ohsix> khafra: yea so uninstall flash from the package manager and get the .so for 64bit flash from adobe, stash it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[21:13] <bugs_bugger> turbokumbi: dang...
[21:14] <bugs_bugger> turbokumbi: curious thing is: windows xp is running quite smoothly on the very system
[21:14] <khafra> Neato; I'll give it a shot.
[21:14] <bc81> milen8204: let me try this, brb
[21:15] <quarter25cents> Alright, what is the easiest way to extract the .iso to a USB so I can try it via the USB?
[21:15] <Guest23351> how do I install a .bin file in terminal?
[21:16] <ohsix> bugs_bugger: xp isn't linux or ubuntu so it doesn't much matter what it does :D
[21:16] <turbokumbi> bugs_bugger: i'd run a memtest, but it's highly unlikely to find anything, as xp seems to run fine. other than that, no idea, sorry :P
[21:16] <quarter25cents> Well, not exactly the easiest, just the best way. Universal USB Installer ain't doing it for me.
[21:16] <bugs_bugger> ohsix: thats not what i meant to say. usually, linux is the system that runs on everything, even microwaves ^^ this time its the other way around
[21:17] <mkanyicy> !best | quarter25cents
[21:17] <ohsix> quarter25cents: i've always used the usb startup disk creator _in_ ubuntu; i bet theres an article on the wiki about something that might work from windows
[21:17] <quarter25cents> Well, the problem is my netbook does not have a CD drive, so I am indeed stuck to just USBs.
[21:17] <quarter25cents> I have not successfly installed Ubuntu, I am just getting started.
[21:18] <bc81> milen8204: i just tried it, it worked fine.  open iso, open mount point, mount.  repeat for second iso
[21:18] <bugs_bugger> turbokumbi: well, a memtest takes some time. i think ill give it a shot after trying an older distro of xubuntu.
[21:18] <milen8204> bc81, ok thanks
[21:18] <bc81> milen8204: then in the list of mounted images, you will see both.
[21:18] <bc81> milen8204: welcome
[21:19] <quarter25cents> bc81, do you know how can I do via Windows? I know Universal USB Installer can do it but it is not working for me so I need to find another way.
[21:19] <Guest23351> how do i install a .bin file in terminal?
[21:19] <ohsix> quarter25cents: yea i know, i had to do the same for my netbook; but i already had ubuntu to do it
[21:20] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[21:20] <quarter25cents> oops sorry for highlighting you bc81 wrong person
[21:20] <xangua> Guest23351: properties> give it permissions and double clic on it
[21:20] <quarter25cents> :V
[21:20] <Guest23351> xangua: Many thanks m8
[21:20] <sincir> ohsix: btw, do you know if Awesome WM has already a built in xcompmgr?
[21:20] <andrew2> bc81 I think this didn't work "application/x-extension-IFO=vlc.desktop;" however, I just right-selected open with and selected VLC from the list and it works now. Thanks.
[21:20] <bc81> Guest23351: in terminal chmod +x <file>  then ./<file> to exec
[21:21] <ShapeShifter499> my speakers keep getting "muted" recently  and the only way to unmute them is to do so through the alsamixer terminal command, how do I fix this
[21:21] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[21:21] <duxbarak> my gcc linker is broken, is this a known problem with an easy fix?
[21:21] <Guest23351> bc81: Cheers m8
[21:21] <ohsix> sincir: nope, no clue; i pretty much mentioned all the ones i knew personally by name already
[21:21] <bc81> andrew2: sure thing, glad you got it sorted out.
[21:21] <ohsix> duxbarak: that isnt' a statement of the problem you are having, just that you have one, how can anyone know if it's a known problem?
[21:22] <sincir> ohsix: ok, will test it another time, thx for the help so far
[21:22] <MarkB> Emesene won't let me webcam chat?
[21:22] <imi> i have some bad blocks on my hdd. how can I find out whether is there any file(chunk)s allocated to bad blocks?
[21:23] <plato> guys, I have a bug. I am demoing Ubuntu in a VM, win7 x64 host. i can't get ubuntu to set a higher resolution than 800x600. i want to set up Evolution but the 'Evolution Setup Assistant' enforces a minimum window size. The button i need to click to continue is in the bottom right of the window. I cannot drag the window to a location where I can see what i'm doing
[21:23] <MarkB> How can I use my webcam with Emesene?
[21:23] <plato> i can tab around but i keep accidentally hitting 'exit' as I have no idea what buttons are at the bottom of the page
[21:23] <duxbarak> ohsix: when i try to compile, i get linking errors, even if i do a simple Hello World program or less
[21:23] <xangua> MarkB: no idea, maybe emesene+emesene ca
[21:23] <xangua> can*
[21:24] <MarkB> What do you mean?
[21:24] <ohsix> duxbarak: that's still a universe of possibilities for someone who would hazard a guess at what the actual error message is
[21:24] <magicianlord> Good day, sirs.
[21:24] <mkanyicy> imi, i would advise you to be careful with that
[21:25] <ohsix> imi: not always, but most filesystems include tools that can
[21:25] <imi> ohsix: ext4
[21:25] <duxbarak> ohsix: on compiling an empty program, ie int main(){}, i get --> /tmp/ccaKQ5yK.o:(.eh_frame+0x12): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[21:25] <cellis> why doesn't "ls" show the "/" directory from ~ ?
[21:25] <imi> so how can I do it?
[21:25] <jrib> cellis: huh?
[21:25] <cellis> if i type
[21:25] <duxbarak> plato: what VM are you using?
[21:25] <plato> virtualbox
[21:25] <cellis> jrib: cd /
[21:26] <jrib> cellis: please keep your question/responses on one line
[21:26] <duxbarak> plato: did you install the VB extensions inside ubuntu?
[21:26] <cellis> ok
[21:26] <plato> duxbarak: no, do you know where to find them
[21:26] <ohsix> duxbarak: sounds like you are using g++ but you don't have the c++ bits gcc requires installed
[21:27] <plato> duxbarax: there's a 'install host extensions' menu item in virtualbox. clicking it has no apparent effect.
[21:27] <jrib> duxbarak: pastebin exactly what you are doing
[21:27] <mkanyicy> imi, dont do it
[21:27] <duxbarak> plato: that option should mount a cd inside the virtual machine, which contains the installation script
[21:27] <GoGi2> how do I disable compiz?
[21:27] <ohsix> mkanyicy: he just wants to look what file the sector is in, it's harmless
[21:28] <bc81> cellis: from home dir, i type "ls /" and can see the contents of /    - what is your question?
[21:28] <imi> mkanyicy: I just want to know whether there is anything lost on my HDD. why not?
[21:28] <jrib> GoGi2: disable effects in System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[21:28] <plato> duxbarak: yes, perfect, ty for help
[21:28] <ohsix> GoGi2: set the effects to low in the appearance applet in system -> preferences
[21:28] <c0br42> hello
[21:28] <GoGi2> compiz seems to be still running
[21:29] <jrib> GoGi2: how are you determining that?
[21:29] <c0br42> how do you install vncserver and get it running from the terminal?
[21:29] <magicianlord> GoGi2: if you disable effects, it should not be running
[21:29] <jrib> !vnc | c0br42
[21:29] <GoGi2> is shows up in the process list
[21:29] <jrib> GoGi2: strange.  You selected "none" and pressed "ok" (or similar)?
[21:30] <GoGi2> there is only "close" not "ok"
[21:30] <cellis> jrib, bc81: http://pastie.org/1591059
[21:31] <jrib> cellis: why would you expect / to be displayed when you are in ~?  ~ is /home/cameron
[21:31] <bc81> cellis, you must specify.  ls usage is ls [OPTION]... [FILE]...
[21:32] <duxbarak> every time i try to compile any cpp file, it compiles fine to .o, then when it tries to link, it gives me errors from ld saying "undefined reference to __gxx_foo"
[21:32] <jrib> duxbarak: pastebin exactly what you are doing
[21:32] <bc81> cellis: you want to see the contents of root folder when in home folder?  type  "ls /"
[21:32] <noob2> IdleOne: Are you here?
[21:32] <ohsix> duxbarak: that's not a linker problem
[21:32] <jrib> GoGi2: well you can do « metacity --replace ».  I don't know what the Appearances dialogue isn't doing that
[21:32] <duxbarak> jrib, i haven't used IRC forever, how do i pastebin again?
[21:33] <jrib> !paste | duxbarak
[21:33] <magicianlord> duxbarak: ctr+shift+v
[21:33] <cellis> sorry jrib, completely new to this. I thought ls gives all files under where I am
[21:34] <jrib> cellis: it does.  / is the root or top of your filesystem.  ~ is two directories under that, ~ is /home/cameron
[21:35] <duxbarak> I think I got it, I'll pastebin it all if not
[21:35] <cellis> but it makes sense that "/" could be a sibling.
[21:35] <cellis> of "~"
[21:35] <middle> Would some one be able to test a line of bash for me? You need to have lynx installed... here is teh lin:lynx -dump ip2location.com | grep 'Location :'| tail -c +26
[21:36] <JeffCBR> Why doesn't ifdown eth0 work in Ubuntu?
[21:36] <middle> Jeff ifconfig eth0 down
[21:36] <dissipate> anyone have a tutorial on wiping all free space on a drive?
[21:36] <bc81> cellis: ls = List information about the FILEs (the current directory by default).
[21:36] <magicianlord> dissipate: man shred
[21:36] <jrib> cellis: no, / is the top.  / is everything's ancestor
[21:36] <Jerusalem420> my update manager keeps getting stuck when trying to upgrade login
[21:36] <magicianlord> Jerusalem420: disable update manager and update with apt-get from terminal
[21:37] <ohsix> JeffCBR: something else probably wants it connected
[21:37] <dissipate> magicianlord, that's for files. i need to wipe partitions free space
[21:37] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Well, there is no eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:37] <ohsix> JeffCBR: is there an eth0 in the output of nmcli dev
[21:37] <JeffCBR> What I really want is tha ifconfig eth0 down, but that's not working, either.
[21:38] <Jerusalem420> majicianlord that tells me everything is up to date
[21:38] <Jerusalem420> but the GUI gives me lots to install
[21:38] <bc81> dissipate: you can shred files/folder/partitions  : e.g. shred -n 2 -z -v /dev/hda1
[21:38] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Yes, and in ifconfig.
[21:38] <ohsix> JeffCBR: if nmcli sees it, it's managed by networkmanager
[21:38] <trichard> hello, for some reason a device (velleman k8055) get's 'mounted' as a /dev/hidraw device. How can i avoid this?
[21:38] <c0br42> say that i'm root and i connect via ssh, how can i start a graphical program say warzone2100 on a users session(tty7)?
[21:39] <trichard> it doesn't work this way
[21:39] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Thanks, I'll look into that. :D
[21:39] <jrib> trichard: look into udev probably.  I know that's vague but hopefully will give you a place to start
[21:39] <c0br42> say that i'm root and i connect via ssh, how can i start a graphical program say warzone2100 on a users session(tty7)?
[21:39] <ohsix> JeffCBR: what sort of configuration do you need to do?
[21:39] <jrib> !repeat | c0br42
[21:39] <bc81> c0br42: i'd image you must navigate to the directory where the game executable is located and ./<file>
[21:40] <dissipate> bc81, i didn't see an option in the shred man page to shred free space
[21:40] <trichard> jrib: the strange thing is that on my desktop it gets mounted as /dev/hidraw0 and on my laptop it doesn't. Both running the same ubuntu kernel
[21:40] <c0br42> jrib: that doesnt help me
[21:40] <c0br42> the answer would help me
[21:40] <trichard> can't remember changing any udev rule
[21:40] <trichard> s
[21:40] <jrib> c0br42: I'm not saying it helps you.  I'm asking you not to repeat so often
[21:40] <JeffCBR> Well, just looking to explore and control my own system, for better or for worse.
[21:40] <bc81> dissipate: hmm..create an empty filesystem on the partition first, i suppose
[21:40] <c0br42> jrib: why?
[21:40] <c0br42> i deserve help 2
[21:40] <x0kster> 7join #ubuntu-it
[21:41] <jrib> c0br42: because it's unfair to other people looking for help and makes the channel unusable
[21:41] <dissipate> bc81, i'm assuming there are other utilities that will do it automatically?
[21:41] <c0br42> jrib: do you have an answer then?
[21:41] <jrib> c0br42: no.
[21:41] <ohsix> JeffCBR: well networkmanager can do ok keeping it going, unless you want static or never changing configuration you might as well let it do it
[21:41] <JeffCBR> Right now, my goal is to turn off eth0 with a command.
[21:41] <xangua> !patience | c0br42
[21:41] <xangua> also please don't flood the channel
[21:41] <c0br42> xanatax: would you guys quit
[21:41] <jrib> trichard: hmm.  Same version of ubuntu?
[21:41] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Can I interact with networkmanager at all?
[21:42] <trichard> jrib: yes
[21:42] <ohsix> JeffCBR: nmcli con down id eth0
[21:42] <bc81> dissipate: no idea, sorry http://tinyurl.com/4st48sv   ;-)
[21:42] <ohsix> or rather "Auto eth0", depending on what the profile name is
[21:42] <jrib> trichard: what happens different on the other machine/
[21:42] <ohsix> JeffCBR: the gnome wiki pages for networkmanager has info on how to use a keyfile to get networkmanager to ignore an interface
[21:43] <c0br42> how would i start a graphical program up like warzone2100(on tty7) remotely
[21:43] <c0br42> as root
[21:43] <trichard> jrib: on my laptop the device doesn't show up in /dev at all but libk8055 works perfectly
[21:43] <ohsix> JeffCBR: if you're going to manage all your interfaces manually and in perpetuity you could just keep networkmanager from starting as well
[21:43] <sacarlson> dissipate: I think shred can do more than just files as seen here http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/delete_files_securely_with_shred/  shred -zn10 /dev/sda  would shred a disk and shred -zn10 /dev/sda1 I guess should shred a partition
[21:44] <c0br42> how would i set vncserver up remotely as root?
[21:44] <jrib> c0br42: read the link ubottu sent you earlier
[21:44] <JeffCBR> ohsix: Thanks a ton. I've got some reading to do now. :D
[21:44] <ohsix> yay
[21:44] <c0br42> jrib: did but it doesnt work for remotely doing it
[21:44] <ohsix> JeffCBR: nmcli man page has all sorts of goodies
[21:45] <jrib> c0br42: why not?
[21:45] <c0br42> jrib: vncviewer: unable to open display ""
[21:45] <klj613-> quiting on ubuntu. one thing after another just keeps coming >.< stressfull... back to slow w7
[21:45] <JeffCBR> Yeah, I just had no idea why ifdown and ifconfig down weren't working.
[21:45] <jrib> c0br42: did you setup the server as described on the wiki?
[21:45] <c0br42> yes
[21:45] <jrib> c0br42: can you ssh?
[21:45] <c0br42> yes
[21:45] <jrib> c0br42: both machines are ubuntu?
[21:46] <c0br42> ones mint the other one that i'm connecting 2 is ubuntu
[21:46] <dissipate> sacarlson, i just tried the 'secure-delete' 'sfill' command.
[21:46] <ohsix> c0br42: don't ask for people here to support mint :D (not saying you are, just fair warning)
[21:46] <jrib> trichard: I have no experience with libk8055. I guess I would compare what packages are installed and what modules are loaded (lsmod)
[21:47] <c0br42> ohsix: i'm asking for ubuntu to work
[21:47] <c0br42> ohsix: it's ubuntu thats bleeping up
[21:47] <magicianlord> how do you turn off the gdm beep?
[21:47] <Dark_Wolf> How do you mount a floppy with Ubuntu from an external drive?
[21:47] <jrib> c0br42: what did you run to get the vncviewer error?
[21:48] <sacarlson> dissipate: did it work?  I did man and it's not installed on my system
[21:48] <c0br42> jrib i just tried connecting via x11vnc -connect theipaddress
[21:48] <Prinler> why cant anything be easy? lol
[21:48] <c0br42> jrib: on the other machine via ssh i ran vncviewer -listen
[21:49] <c0br42> i was logged into root
[21:49] <ohsix> Prinler: it gets difficult when people don't want to do the bare minimum of the effort that is actually required ;]
[21:49] <Dark_Wolf> Never mind, got it
[21:49] <costas> !pulseaudio
[21:50] <costas> hello all
[21:50] <jrib> c0br42: run the server on the machine you are trying to connect to and the viewer on the machine you are on now
[21:50] <c0br42> i did.........
[21:50] <jrib> c0br42: and why are you logged in as root anyway?
[21:50] <z0z0> hi all
[21:51] <jrib> c0br42: you said you ran vncviewer over ssh
[21:51] <c0br42> jrib okay this is my question, do i have to be logged into the graphical terminal when i start up vncserver?
[21:51] <jrib> c0br42: depends on the server and I don't know the particulars of each one
[21:52] <c0br42> VNCSERVER!!!
[21:52] <jrib> "I don't know the particulars of each one" (read its documentation)
[21:52] <c0br42> jrib: okay.... which one would allow me to NOT have to start it up in the graphical terminal?
[21:52] <c0br42> because THATS the one I want
[21:53] <jrib> c0br42: read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers to see which one suits you
[21:53] <JeffCBR> Now we're cooking with gas!
[21:53] <c0br42> jrib: you said it depends on the server, i assumed you had knowledge of at least a few >.<
[21:53] <c0br42> at least thats what you indicated
[21:53] <ohsix> ass of ume
[21:53] <z0z0> a question: a folder with name FOLDER with a few folders inside and a few simlinks shered via samba. When I open shared folder under windows client everything looks ok, but if I open shared folder from a mac osx client I see symlinks instead of folders.... how to make symlinks to be visible like folders?
[21:54] <jrib> c0br42: no, I have knowledge of once reading that page but do not know specifically which server behaved how
[21:54] <sacarlson> dissipate: but I see what sfill does now,  so your partition wasn't empty before you wanted to wipe it I guess.  this only wipes unused spaces bettween files that exist in a directory
[21:54] <c0br42> so i just wasted my time....... great -_-
[21:54] <jrib> c0br42: not sure why you say that, just follow the instructions on the first wiki page and you can vnc
[21:54] <ohsix> z0z0: osx probably connects via cifs and actually supports the symlinks; you might need to force that ability off in samba
[21:55] <c0br42> jrib, not via a remotely logged into terminal apparently
[21:55] <oldlady> I wonder if you could help me, please. I think my husband will soon make me get a laptop. I'd like to have linux on it, but I really can't afford any of the preinstalled linux computers. Is there any laptop that plays nice with linux that I can buy at say, Best Buy or Microcenter?
[21:55] <madwill> how can i make sure i'm using x11
[21:55] <z0z0> ohsix: do you mean disable working with symlinks in samba?
[21:55] <trichard> jrib: seems like it was a permissions error, i can't remember that i changed anything on my laptop but seems like i did it anyway. Thanks for helping out ;)
[21:55] <c0br42> oldlady: dell inspiron 1545
[21:56] <jrib> c0br42: I don't understand what you want to do with a remotely logged into terminal.  Put the server on the machine you want to connect to, run viewer on the machine you want to connect from.  Why do you keep bringing up a "remotely logged in terminal"?
[21:56] <madwill> i need to use x11grab and it gives me a black windows
[21:56] <jrib> trichard: cool, glad you figured it out
[21:56] <DrPoI> what would happen if you were using dupilcity to do incremental backups and you run out of space?? Any ideas?
[21:56] <thruxton> oldlady: most new HP laptops work well with linux
[21:56] <ohsix> z0z0: disable sending them to the client; clients that speak cifs/the unix extensions for it will get the symlinks, whereas windows normally wont
[21:56] <madwill> a blog told me it could be that i don't use x11 grab but can that be ?
[21:56] <madwill> i'm using 10.04 ubuntu
[21:56] <c0br42> jrib oh idk, maybe because i'm logged in remotely and don't have physical access to the machine atm
[21:56] <exutux> oldlady: www.system76.org
[21:56] <oldlady> Thank you so much, thruxton
[21:56] <madwill> guess i should of written it all in one line
[21:56] <jrib> c0br42: but presumably that machine is running the server?
[21:57] <costas> anyone have a REALLY useful howto regarding the latest Ubuntu studio amd64 and pulse audio, alsa, or oss? I managed to have audio via OSS but nothing works when I use mp3s, the web etc..... please assist me...
[21:57] <drc> oldlady, take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[21:57] <z0z0> ohsix: thanks for idea... I will try that
[21:57] <c0br42> jrib: yup +1
[21:57] <exutux> oldlady: .com sorry
[21:57] <jrib> c0br42: so what issue do you have starting the server on it?
[21:57] <ohsix> z0z0: quick look seems to say "unix extensions = no" will do it, the default is yes
[21:57] <c0br42> jrib but when i try to connect, it doesn't work :O
[21:57] <jrib> !away > CrystalLinux
[21:57] <c0br42> jrib: the server has started fine...
[21:57] <Prinler> ohsix, I only do what i have to do :)
[21:57] <c0br42> it's running
[21:57] <c0br42> fine
[21:57] <ohsix> z0z0: search for unix extensions http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html, it explains what it means a bit
[21:58] <Prinler> ohsix, and unfortunatly thats never enough
[21:58] <c0br42> not working though
[21:58] <jrib> c0br42: so what's the problem
[21:58] <c0br42> Mon Feb 21 16:31:49 2011
[21:58] <c0br42>  main:        Listening on port 5500
[21:58] <c0br42> vncviewer: unable to open display ""
[21:58] <webPragmatist> more often than not do you guys make a sudoers group or just add users to "sudo" ?
[21:58] <c0br42> ^^
[21:58] <jrib> c0br42: isn't vncviewer the viewer?
[21:58] <Prinler> I think i crashed google servers with how much i google :p
[21:58] <dustg> how do I run the utility that chooses the best package mirror on ubuntu server?
[21:58] <webPragmatist> seems to not correlate with a real group name "sudo" should be "sudoers"
[21:58] <z0z0> ohsix: thanks ;)
[21:58] <ohsix> Prinler: skimping on proper effort only ensures future pain
[21:58] <costas> I loved the previous ubuntu studio version, everything worked out of the box..
[21:58] <ohsix> z0z0: np
[21:58] <c0br42> jrib: if it's a viewer then why is it listening?
[21:59] <ohsix> z0z0: there might be a per mount way to do it on the osx side too ...
[21:59] <exutux> jrib: but, have him xserver on remote server??
[21:59] <Prinler> I feal pain
[21:59] <c0br42> exutux: can i get help from u please? jrib is impossible
[21:59] <costas> anyone alive in here?
[21:59] <jrib> c0br42: where exactly are you executing the vncviewer command?  Presumably you are doing this on the machine you are connecting from (and not in some ssh session)?
[22:00] <exutux> !attitude > c0br42
[22:00] <oldlady> Thank you exutux, but this is just my problem. My old eyes need a fairly large display, but $910.00 is just too much for me.
[22:00] <Prinler> For the life of me i cant get this HDMI to give me sound!
[22:00] <jrib> costas: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:00] <sacarlson> webPragmatist: I think the group name that adds you to sudo is admin
[22:00] <costas> I did, read up
[22:00] <madwill> How can i make sure x11 is active in ubuntu 10.04
[22:00] <overclucker> webPragmatist: the name or the group isn't that important, as long as the group is in /etc/sudoers, and you are a member of the group
[22:00] <jrib> !helpme | costas
[22:00] <exutux> oldlady: ok :)
[22:01] <costas> you don't even know what OSS is jrib do you?
[22:01] <c0br42> jrib: :} thanks for your help XD, as if it helped
[22:01] <jrib> costas: that's not relevant
[22:01] <Prinler> I hope to be a ninja master soon. Ubuntu Ninja
[22:01] <MY3rdEYE> does anyone know how to reset or re-apply the applications men bar for the desktop. I am newer to ubuntu and for some reason it has disappeared from the top of the screen. I am trying to figure out how to get it back
[22:01] <costas> my problem is REAL, you guys are anateurs, I'vw been using linux since 1994 on all my machines
[22:02] <c0br42> costas: i totally agree
[22:02] <c0br42> costas: they are fcking amatures, all of them
[22:02] <c0br42> especially jrib
[22:02] <costas> I know...
[22:02] <Prinler> and me
[22:02] <magicianlord> language
[22:02] <Fenerbahce> hi
[22:02] <bc81> MY3rdEYE: right-click your panel, add to panel, main menu (or menu bar, depending on your preference)
[22:02] <costas> when I was making custom kernels they were playing with their PSXs...
[22:03] <MY3rdEYE> thanks bc81
[22:03] <costas> Ubuntu sucks compared to debian...
[22:03] <madwill> ok
[22:03] <ohsix> costas: you're still in 1994 if you're using OSS
[22:03] <costas> but Ubuntu studio is hip
[22:03] <costas> I'm not ohsix
[22:03] <jrib> costas: that's fine.  Ask your question and be patient.  This channel is for *support*
[22:03] <costas> on debian I'm using alsa and it does work
[22:04] <jrib> !guidelines > c0br42
[22:04] <costas> I cannot post lspci here because it will flood the channel
[22:04] <exutux> costas: you can use debian if you want...and is better for us IMHO, we don't need user with attitude like you
[22:04] <exutux> how about you have*
[22:04] <exutux> !paste
[22:04] <ohsix> costas: if you copied your custom config from there or otherwise made your own asound.conf/.asoundrc, you broke it
[22:04] <bencc> is there a difference between 'sudo su someuser -c "some-command"' and 'sudo -u someuser -i some-command' ?
[22:04] <Fenerbahce> The days are dwindling.  Here you will find an annotated campus map to help you find your way.  Check in is at the registration area in building 70.
[22:04] <costas> I didn't
[22:05] <ohsix> k
[22:05] <costas> thanks ohsix for the tip though
[22:05] <FOSSCON> Besides the great selection of talks at Fosscon we will also have Bird of a Feather sessions and now lightning talks during the closing portions of the day.  Due to great demand by a few groups that we just couldn’t fit into the main talk sessions, we will be adding a handful of lightning talks [...]
[22:05] <ohsix> costas: then explain what's not working and we can get rolling
[22:05] <webPragmatist> overclucker: yea just trying to keep things logical… all of my group names are plural
[22:06] <bc81> FOSSCON: wrong channel, perhaps?
[22:06] <FOSSCON> Fosscon is only a few days away.  If you would like to plan an informal Bird of a Feather session, space will be available to hold these.  You can use the wiki at http://wiki.fosscon.org/index.php/BOF to plan them.  You will need to create an account to do edit but feel free to do so.
[22:06] <exutux> bencc: answer is, why you use "su"
[22:06] <bc81> !ot | FOSSCON
[22:06] <costas> the problem: multiple cards... my best card is the delta 1010, the audio driver is ice1712, everything worked fine on previous Ubuntu studio, and somehow I got errors with the LTS versioin
[22:07] <FOSSCON> ok
[22:07] <bibic682> hello, just put a tv tuner card in...its a philips  7130...it will not work with tvtime...HELP!!
[22:07] <bencc> exutux: not sure. I need to run a daemon in upstart as someuser
[22:07] <costas> sorry, #version
[22:07] <costas> I followed the ubuntu wiki and managed to have input sound via OSS
[22:07] <bencc> exutux: what do you mean by, why do I use "su"? doesn't it change the user?
[22:07] <ohsix> costas: ok, the ice1712 isn't that well supported anyways; you might want to go back to the version that worked rather than fight with it
[22:08] <quarter25cents> Okay, I will ask this again. Does anyone now how I can extract the .iso to a USB and then boot from the USB?
[22:08] <costas> I have a professional studio based on Linux...
[22:08] <costas> ohsix, I will compile alsa and try again, and maby win this mutha
[22:08] <nonnie> is there a convenient way to install Monaco font on a linux system?
[22:08] <raido> quarter25cents: use "dd"
[22:08] <ohsix> costas: try the backports first, they're already built
[22:08] <quarter25cents> dd?
[22:08] <quarter25cents> Specifiy.
[22:08] <izinucs> bibic682: most likely (and I'm no expert with TV cards) but you might have to tell TVtime where to look for the card.  The card address can be found typically by typing lsusb in a terminal or dmesg in a terminal
[22:09] <raido> quarter25cents: man dd
[22:09] <quarter25cents> Man dd?
[22:09] <quarter25cents> What?
[22:09] <quarter25cents> Is this a program for windows?
[22:09] <exutux> bencc: yes but that daemon must run for only specific user?
[22:09] <ohsix> raido: dd'ing an iso to a flash drive wont work; and he's on windows or he wouldn't have the problem in the first place
[22:09] <mino> Hi, anyone here is using cron-apt on his machine and experienced that OPTIONS in /etc/cron-apt/config are not executed ... cron-apt -s shows it... I think it needs a bug report, but i'm not sure if i'm just to stupid
[22:09] <raido> quarter25cents: linux
[22:09] <izinucs> nonnie: you can put fonts in ~/.fonts or /home/<username>/.fonts
[22:09] <izinucs> !fonts | nonnie
[22:09] <quarter25cents> I am on Windows obviously.
[22:09] <Jeruvy> quarter25cents: no its GNU's disk imaging utility.
[22:09] <costas> I did, and no go... will document every change and try a different route, if it works ok, if not tough luck
[22:09] <costas> thanks guys, good night
[22:10] <raido> ohsix: well. it will work on linux and he didne say he was on windows
[22:10] <zerocool> salut .
[22:10] <bencc> exutux: yes. all the files and folders have permissions for that user
[22:10] <probrob> help im trying to setup l2tp over ipsec vpn server on ubuntu 10.04 with http://riobard.com/blog/2010-04-30-l2tp-over-ipsec-ubuntu/ can someone tell me that no [OK] for NAT/masquerading means FAIL? http://pastebin.com/d0kbNhZH
[22:10] <bc81> quarter25cents: System >> Administration >> Startup Disk Creator (may be what you're after?)  usb-creator-gtk
[22:10] <bibic682> izinucs, tvtime needs the driver loaded..I guess it detects it when it starts... Ive tried loading the driver but no good...seems to be a complicated mess to get it to work
[22:10] <Mon_Colonel> hi
[22:10] <sacarlson> costas: so you getting jackd to work in realtime? http://jackaudio.org/
[22:10] <quarter25cents> No, nevermind about that question...
[22:10] <ohsix> quarter25cents: i told you this was here with the intent that you find it yourself, but; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Windows
[22:11] <izinucs> bibic682: a driver for that card?
[22:11] <bibic682> I need a program that will recognize the tuner then we are good to go
[22:11] <exutux> bencc: ok but, if you use sudo command ..."command" is owned by root, not user
[22:11] <ohsix> sacarlson: he'll probably tackle that problem when he gets to it, if he's using LTS he wont have to worry for a while, if ever
[22:11] <nonnie> izinucs: yeah, that's why i said "convenient", but i don't assume that there are packages including the Mac font Monaco
[22:11] <arosen> Anyone know if ubuntu release a pxe boot installer all setup like debian does?
[22:11] <overclucker> bencc: don't know if it helps you, but you can run commands as another user with sudo -u otheruser command to exec
[22:11] <bencc> exutux: so I'll use "sudo -u someuser -i /script"
[22:11] <exutux> bencc: for that i don't understand why sudo su user
[22:11] <WalterBishop> Hello, I'm having trouble installing freeglut3. I've unpacked the download, But I can't run the command 'make all' without getting an error. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:12] <bibic682> ininucs, yes tvtime doesn't know the card even though it shows in my pci devices
[22:12] <WalterBishop> Make error 1 and 2 whatever that is.
[22:12] <quarter25cents> I have another quick question, what is the minimum ammount of storage (MB/GB) for me to put Ubuntu on a CD?
[22:12] <exutux> bencc: su someuser
[22:12] <quarter25cents> My CD has 700 MB it says, is that enough?
[22:12] <ohsix> i really do not like the guys that have hardware they covet or insist is really awesome, when it doesn't work; thinking building a new version of the drivers will fix anything, they _never report bugs_ so theres no reason it would
[22:12] <izinucs> nonnie: not if they have copyrite restrictions
[22:12] <ohsix> quarter25cents: it's enough
[22:12] <quarter25cents> ohsix: What is the minimum?
[22:13] <ohsix> ..
[22:13] <exutux> bencc: or command runs always owned by root if you use sudo
[22:13] <quarter25cents> ?
[22:13] <bencc> exutux: ok. thanks
[22:13] <bc81> arosen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:13] <pupuserc1803c> hi
[22:14] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[22:14] <izinucs> bibic682: it's the card that might need the driver.. www.google.com/linux and www.ubuntuforums.org to search for that card and implimintation.
[22:14] <bc81> arosen: also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[22:15] <bibic682> I have done that and it seems really complicated...Ive used several different drivers for that card and none get recognized by tvtime
[22:15] <nonnie> izinucs: you know some big packages with a lot of fonts?
[22:15] <madwill>  Please help i'm trying to grab my screen with x11grab and everything is black and no sound. I can only see my cursor, there is only one screen, this is ubuntu 10.04. I have no error, i have a video as long as what i recorded. i feel like this is a problem with x11 but i can't find ressource anywhere on google
[22:16] <Siph0n> If I have ubuntu 10.4 LTS installed right now, and I want to install Windows 7, will it erase all the partitions on my hard drive ?
[22:16] <exutux> overclucker: sudo su user command .... nonsense
[22:16] <pr0ph3t> Siph0n, it will erase grub
[22:16] <bc81> quarter25cents: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:17] <sacarlson> madwill:  I just push <ctl> print screen ,  does that not work?
[22:17] <exutux> and sudo -u user command ... nonsense too
[22:17] <arosen> bc81: awesome thank you!
[22:17] <bc81> sure thing :)
[22:17] <Siph0n> pr0ph3t, ok, should I create an ntfs partition before trying to install windows? or does windows give me the option to either choose an already created partition, or to create a new partition ?
[22:18] <pr0ph3t> Siph0n, so you'll need to reinstall it and you can choose the partition in which you want windows 7 to be installed, I suggest you use some partition editor like gparted before you try to install windows
[22:18] <Corbusier> #ubuntu-fr
[22:19] <madwill> sacarlson -> print screen does the same thing, black with my cursor !
[22:19] <Siph0n> pr0ph3t, ok thanks... already created a 100GB ntfs partition. thx
[22:19] <bc81> madwill: you have desktop effects enable>?
[22:19] <pr0ph3t> Siph0n, it depends whether you have a free partition on which you can install windows already or whether you need to resize the linux partition in order to create a new one. If you need to resize make sure you backup before doing so
[22:19] <madwill> bc81> no
[22:20] <ResQue> hello guys, i have a small problem, i just used installed the propriatry drivers from my graphics card, but when i loged off my GUI stop working. i am now stuck on the tty1 with irssi, could anyone help me get back to the GUI
[22:20] <ResQue> i am using ubuntu 10.10 with Nvidia GeForce 8600GTM
[22:21] <loris> ciao  a tutti
[22:21] <marcagio> Hi ppl, I was wondering if anyone could help, I'm trying to boot the live CD on a computer which has an ATI video cart with S-video output... it's connected to my TV and I can't get it to display properly... I would setup the resolution and display on another screen if I had one, but all I got are 3 imacs and a laptop...
[22:21] <bc81> madwill: what is the command you are using?  more details
[22:21] <TTSDA> Hello, I have a problem, with ubuntu 10.10, I installed some packages to run a minecraft map renderer, it worked, then I changed apache directory and rebooted the server. Now, when I boot it a purple screen saying Ubuntu 10.10 appears with a loading bar(more like dots) I cant connect via ssh or anything. When I started it there used to appear a terminal and that is it. Now, I want to re-install ubuntu server but I cant retrieve my files
 SWEET LORD the effect were on normal not disabled !! i've disabled them and now its works Your my champion !!
[22:21] <TTSDA> Now there is just a back screen and I was able to connect with ssh
[22:21] <loris> se dovessi installare un nuovo tema x ubuntu....dove dovrei salvarlo in quale cartella????
[22:21] <TTSDA> I will retrieve my stuff
[22:21] <bc81> madwill: glad to hear you fixed it! :_)
[22:22] <madwill> Glad you asked that question
[22:22] <madwill> i would of been dead by tomorrow if i didn't get that thing working
[22:22] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, which driver did you install and how did you do it?
[22:22] <exutux> loris: /join #ubuntu-it
[22:22] <pr0ph3t> loris, !italian
[22:23] <pr0ph3t> !italian
[22:23] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i am not sure which drivr, the one it reccomended and i used the err, i forgot the name. i went into system > admin > Something Hardware Drivers
[22:23] <livingwithrats> help
[22:23] <bc81> !ask | livingwithrats
[22:24] <livingwithrats> i need a good firewall
[22:24] <ShapeShifter499> alsa won't save my settings... how do I fix this?
[22:24] <exutux> !iptables
[22:24] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i am sorry i know that information was kind of vague. maybe there is a command i can run to find the driver i insstalled
[22:24] <pr0ph3t> bc81, I forgot the pipe :P
[22:24] <livingwithrats> i have been using ubuntu 1 week
[22:24] <Roasted> Not giving up here. I'm trying to get Rhythmbox to pick up the music that's on my Sandisk Sansa Fuze. I'm on Ubuntu 10.10. I have NO clue why but it comes up as "Importing 0/0" and sits there, doing nothing.
[22:24] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, the driver you installed should be fine
[22:25] <livingwithrats> ty will look into
[22:25] <bc81> Roasted: you can try to fsck the device, if possible
[22:25] <sacarlson> livingwithrats: only time you need a firewall is if you want to filter access from different parts of a network,  if not just close the listeners you don't need
[22:25] <exutux> livingwithrats: why do you think that needs a firewall?
[22:25] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i dont understand then, the GUI does not start up. and on tty7 there shows now error. just some information about what the kernel did last "* Checking battery state     [OK]"
[22:26] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, but maybe there are some incompatibilities with you nvidia card at the moment, I used to have them as well and although they are great, the linux drivers they make are usually
[22:26] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: normaly the Gui would start stright after this. but it has not come up.
[22:26] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, ctrl+alt+F8
[22:27] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: there is nothing running on after tty7
[22:27] <mello> Hi! i bought a printer today and have set it up to my imac, win 7 pc with wifi and now i want to acces it from my ubuntu pc. But its not working. When i choose printing i cant add any thing its says not connected? so my question is how can i accses my printer with wifi from ubuntu?
[22:27] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know?
[22:27] <nonnie> hey, can you point me to some huge font packages?
[22:27] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, on my machine X is on F8, and by the sounds of it it is on yours as well
[22:27] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i always download a .run from file nivida website. that is still inside my downloads folder. do u know how i could install this.
[22:28] <bc81> ShapeShifter499: you go into the alsamixer?
[22:28] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i mine, x is on 7, but there is nothing not even a virtual terminal on mine after 7, there is on 1-7 though
[22:28] <WalterBishop> What is an .O file, and how do I run it?
[22:29] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, ctrl+alt+F7 gives the last checks o the boot process on my machine as well
[22:29] <ShapeShifter499> bc81, it won't work, after everytime I start my computer it starts with my speakers muted, and I have to use alsamixer from the terminal to unmute
[22:29] <Stevezau> hmm i did a apt-get install lxde but its not showing up when i reboot..
[22:29] <WalterBishop> I'm trying to compile some C code, but its giving me .o files as output.
[22:29] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, so I get the Checking battery message too on that tty
[22:29] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i will try restarting my computer to see if that fixes anything
[22:29] <ShapeShifter499> bc81, however my headphones aren't muted at boot
[22:29] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, what version are you running?
[22:29] <pinghu> anyone who can help me to get a bot my friend created in windows to work on ubunut? the bot is for an browsergame and will need to get internet connection. bot is .exe
[22:29] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: normaly on my computer the last checks the system has run, is replaced by the GUI a few seconds later. but it didnt happen this time
[22:29] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, of ubuntu
[22:30] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i am running 10.10
[22:30] <mello> Hi! i bought a printer today and have set it up to my imac, win 7 pc with wifi and now i want to acces it from my ubuntu pc. But its not working. When i choose printing i cant add any thing its says not connected? so my question is how can i accses my printer with wifi from ubuntu?
[22:30] <Bigbucks> Is there anyone here who knows much about using apache on ubuntu?
[22:30] <Quantum_Ion> mello, You will have to google that one its kinda complex
[22:30] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: note i always had this problem before i installed ubuntu 10.10 on my harddrive. if i tryed to install any of the closed source drivers from the admin menu the GUI would not longer start up.
[22:30] <jrib> Bigbucks: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:31] <surial> Our home server used to be a xfce box, but the few GUI apps we used to run on it are now all replaced by command line tools... so it doesn't really need to boot into XFCE anymore. How do I reconfig the machine to not fire up a GUI at all and just stick with the command line?
[22:31] <mello> Quantum_Ion: yeah been doing that for a while :). guess il have to continue that then thanx anyway
[22:31] <wedwo-> Stevezau, options will appear at bottom of screen when you start typing your login password
[22:31] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: this was when i was using just the live CD. so i dont think it is a miss placed setting. maybe something is not compabibile
[22:31] <Bigbucks> Well, with apache, despite having documentroot set to the correct place, when I open localhost in a browser, I get a 404 pahe.
[22:31] <Roasted> If I use GParted to format my Sandisk Sansa Fuze, what would ultimately happen? Would I be able to re-load the firmware and get the thing rolling again?
[22:31] <surial> ubuntu, uh... Karmic 9.1
[22:31] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, what happens if you do ctrl+alt+F8? Also was it a clean install of Ubuntu? Standard? 64bit or 32bit?
[22:31] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, you could add something like -> amixer set master unmute  - to rc.local
[22:32] <mamenix> holaaa
[22:32] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, the master isn't muted, just the speakers
[22:32] <pinghu> anybody who can help me?
[22:32] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: 32bit, what do u mean by clean install? there was nothing on the partition before i install ubunut
[22:32] <jrib> !helpme | pinghu
[22:32] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, how do you fix the problem ?
[22:32] <Corbusier> Salut, est ce qu'il y aurait des francais pour me conseiller un chan francais relativement vivant ?
[22:33] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: and i think the standard gnome version. the one from the ubunt main homepage
[22:33] <jrib> Bigbucks: what is DocumentRoot set to and what does « ls -ld your_document_root » return?
[22:33] <g_0_0> !fr | Corbusier
[22:33] <etotheipi> I followed a guide (http://superuser.com/questions/19318/how-can-i-give-write-access-of-a-folder-to-all-users-in-linux) to make /var/www writable to anyone in the www-data group and added my user to sid group, but I still can't make files or directories there. am I missing something?
[22:33] <etotheipi> er, said.
[22:33] <Corbusier> thanks
[22:33] <g_0_0> Corbusier, sinon tu peux me demander en privé
[22:33] <jrib> etotheipi: did you log out and back in?
[22:33] <ResQue> pr0ph3t: i will be back in 2min, i am going to see if a restart will fix the error
[22:33] <pinghu> ubottu and jrib thx will do as you said and sorry for bunp
[22:33] <pinghu> bump*
[22:34] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, to temporary fix (until next boot) I turn up the speakers in the alsamixer terminal command
[22:34] <mello> so found what i needed to do and thought il share it with u. if one run this in the terminal it will restart the printig program and the it found my printer right away   sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart problem solved
[22:34] <pinghu> !helpme
[22:34] <Bigbucks> DocumentRoot is set to /var/www/ and the command returns "ls: cannot access your_document_root: No such file or directory"
[22:34] <Bigbucks> oh
[22:34] <pinghu> !repeat
[22:34] <etotheipi> jrib: I hadn't -- but that seems to have fixed it. thanks. not sure why I thought the changes propagated immediately
[22:35] <Bigbucks> might help if I replace the thing :P
[22:35] <hazzarux> evening, everbody!
[22:35] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, which channel to increase?
[22:35] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, I just don't know how to make the settings permanent, and the command "sudo alsactl store"   doesn't work either
[22:35] <jrib> etotheipi: yeah, you need to log in again for group membership
[22:35] <Bigbucks> jrib, it returns "drwxrwxrwx 2 andrew andrew 4096 2011-02-20 09:45 /var/www/"
[22:35] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, addiing amixer set to rc.local will fix the probelm
[22:35] <joseph_> My system is reporting that I have low space on my root partition. Any recommendations for clearing space or resizing it? (Current size:4 GB)
[22:36] <jrib> Bigbucks: you have an index.html in there or something?
[22:36] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, I just have to turn up the speaker channel
[22:36] <Bigbucks> yes, I do
[22:36] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, what's the channel called?
[22:36] <quarter25cents> brb
[22:36] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, in alsamixer its called speaker  lolz
[22:37] <jrib> Bigbucks: what are you typing in your web browser?
[22:37] <Bigbucks> jrib: http://localhost/
[22:37] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, ok add -> amixer set unmute speaker -- to rc.local
[22:37] <jrib> Bigbucks: what happens when you do http://localhost/index.html?
[22:37] <kevin_> Hello World!
[22:37] <pavlos2> Hi all i have a very big problem. When the last time i logged in gnome my laptop freezed. After that i can't login to gnome and it shows me that my user is currently logged in. I created a new user and he can login ok, Any ideas how to fix it?
[22:37] <Bigbucks> 404 error
[22:37] <iflema> joseph_: you want at least 20gig for root (/)
[22:38] <istevenmon> hi guys, i have an ip camera which has a web server i can connect to see the image. how can i measure the packet lost and latency of the connection ?
[22:38] <ohsix> ShapeShifter499: be sure to file a bug too; so the problem can be fixed and it doesn't need a workaround in the future
[22:38] <joseph_> iflema: OK. Anyway to safely resize?
[22:38] <Bigbucks> jrib: I get a 404
[22:38] <jrib> Bigbucks: 1) ls -l /var/www/index.html  2) Your index.html doesn't say "404 error" in it right? 3) clear your browser's cache and try again
[22:39] <ShapeShifter499> ohsix g_0_0   let me reboot brb
[22:39] <iflema> joseph_: livecd and always backup important data first! it happens....
[22:39] <pinghu> Im trying to run a .exe bot my friend did create for an webbrowser-game. The bot was made for windows i think and I wonder if I in any way can use it on my 10.10. all advice is great
[22:40] <iflema> joseph_: the live has a program called gparted. the install cd isa livecd
[22:40] <jrib> pinghu: try wine maybe?
[22:40] <jrib> !wine > pinghu
[22:41] <Bigbucks> 1) -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 2011-02-20 09:22 /var/www/index.html 2)no, it was a default install of Apache2, 3) Cache clearing did not work
[22:41] <joseph_> iflema: Alright, so I'll just need to back up and run g parted. Anything else I should know?
[22:41] <ohsix> pinghu: chances are it wont work if you get it to run, windows is way different in the way you'd interact with the web browser to do that stuff; it _might_ work if you also run the browser with wine
[22:41] <pinghu> jrib I tried wine but the bot did not start up.
[22:42] <jrib> pinghu: what language did your friend write the bot in?
[22:42] <Bigbucks>  jrib: 1) -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 2011-02-20 09:22 /var/www/index.html 2)no, it was a default install of Apache2, 3) Cache clearing did not work
[22:42] <pinghu> I have no clue at all and this friend of mine is quite hard to get in touch with.
[22:43] <jrib> Bigbucks: ps -ef | grep apache
[22:43] <iflema> joseph_: thats about it... youll need that much atlesat for ROOT (/) because it has TMP and VAR under it, im assuming you have a seperate HOME and possibly BOOT....
[22:44] <iflema> joseph_: USR get pretty big aswell
[22:44] <pinghu> Is there any way to open .exe files and figure out which language it's written in?
[22:44] <Bigbucks> jrib: What am I looking for in this?
[22:44] <ShapeShifter499> ohsix, g_0_0   that didn't work, the channel is turned all the way down in alsa mixer
[22:44] <jrib> Bigbucks: is apache running?
[22:44] <pupuserfac32c> I am havign difficulties with Ubuntu...  it crashed on me last time I tried to reboot.  got the the grub screen to signon. but didn't have a session availible for me to login to gnome or anything else.
[22:44] <josh_> pinghu no
[22:44] <IanWizard> Anyone who will give me a part time (telecommute) job, internship, anything, doing something vaguely technical.  I'll work for next to nothing, and I'll work the first week free.
[22:44] <joseph_> iflema: Yes to both. I have a seperate /tmp as well.
[22:44] <pupuserfac32c> got frustrated. so at the prompt. I did a apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to 10.10 now.
[22:45] <Bigbucks> jrib: Apache is running, or else i wouldn't even get a 404
[22:45] <ohsix> ShapeShifter499: i didn't offer the workaround, i just suggested filing a bug, its easy to fix with a pulse mixer path; but "Speaker" isn't a correct name for a mixer channel
[22:45] <pupuserfac32c> but it now goes to a text screen.   and I can not get it to startx to work.
[22:45] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, ok try - amixer set speaker unmute 80%
[22:45] <pupuserfac32c> saying fatel server error.  no screens found.
[22:46] <jrib> Bigbucks: and everything is default, you haven't edited any configuration files since installing apache?
[22:46] <ShapeShifter499> ohsix, ya but I thought I'd let you know that didn't work
[22:46] <ohsix> ShapeShifter499: pnoted
[22:46] <Bigbucks> No, I havent.
[22:46] <BUG123R> hola amigos.
[22:46] <tronyx> anyone know the best way to do a remote graphical login on 10.04 without already having an established session?
[22:46] <jrib> Bigbucks: anything interesting in apache's logs?
[22:47] <tronyx> i.e. a graphical GDM login? i can't seem to find anything current or applicable to 10.04
[22:47] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, I think it will work if you add the 80% you need to increase the volume too
[22:47] <Bigbucks> jrib: where is the logs?
[22:47] <brontoeee> tronyx, nx nomachine
[22:47] <jrib> Bigbucks: /var/log/apache2/
[22:47] <exutux> Bigbucks: sorry but, your DocumetRoot is in /var/www/ ?
[22:47] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, ok rebooting
[22:47] <brontoeee> tronyx, you will need ssh access
[22:47] <ChogyDan> pupuserfac32c: did you do-release-upgrade? or apt-get dist-upgrade to do the distro upgrade?
[22:47] <xomp> anyone ever run a small ircd on ubuntu before? I'm looking to run a small ircd on my ubuntu VPS but don't know which package I should use..
[22:47] <Bigbucks> exutux: yes it is
[22:48] <exutux> 23:35 < Bigbucks> jrib, it returns "drwxrwxrwx 2 andrew andrew 4096  2011-02-20 09:45 /var/www/"
[22:48] <pupuserfac32c> chogydan. I don't recall to be honest..
[22:48] <exutux> Bigbucks: that's the permission in /var/www/?
[22:48] <scottnyc> apt-get install python3 is asking me if im root
[22:48] <ChogyDan> pupuserfac32c: what graphics card?
[22:48] <pupuserfac32c> i think I tried to just do apt-get dist-upgrade unless it didn't work.. then I may have added release to it.
[22:48] <tronyx> brontoeee: thanks for hte tip.  i'll look into it.  i'd guess it can be done, but like other services, can you forward the no machine server/service over SSH?
[22:48] <coz_> scottnyc,  sudo apt-get install
[22:48] <Bigbucks> jrib: appears there is no htdocs
[22:48] <brontoeee> tronyx, yes
[22:48] <ohsix> xomp: you probably are best served by checkint out ratbox or the ircd you want to use from source control and running it as your user
[22:49] <iflema> joseph_: maybe 10gig for root would be enough. If you plan to use your OS and not wipe it every 5 sec yoyull prob want 20gig
[22:49] <pupuserfac32c> I have an nvida.  and an intel...  never could get the duel screens to work before.
[22:49] <exutux> Bigbucks: it isn' default permissio for /var/www/ that's wrong and apache not run
[22:49] <xomp> ohsix, so ratbox is pretty easy to setup?
[22:49] <doug9_> Requesting info on NVIDIA operability of 10.10
[22:49] <brontoeee> tronyx, it uses ssh login by deafult
[22:49] <ChogyDan> pupuserfac32c: do you have ubuntu-desktop and linux-generic installed?
[22:49] <pr0ph3t> ResQue, did it work?
[22:49] <xtbgod> C Compiler on 10.10?
[22:49] <jrib> !nvidia > doug9_
[22:49] <ohsix> xomp: they're all not very hard to set up, but ratbox has block not line based configs, so it is a bit easier
[22:49] <Bigbucks> exutux: how do I set the permissions to what it should be?
[22:50] <pupuserfac32c> i thought I did...
[22:50] <jrib> xtbgod: gcc
[22:50] <exutux> Bigbucks: drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2010-11-12 13:56 /var/www/
[22:50] <tronyx> thanks again brontoeee
[22:50] <exutux> ths right and default permission
[22:50] <brontoeee> tronyx, also client will work on win,osx and ubuntu (i have tested all 3)
[22:50] <xomp> ohsix, cool! is there any guides out there on setting it up?
[22:50] <scottnyc> ty coz_
[22:50] <pupuserfac32c> maybe not...
[22:50] <coz_> scottnyc,  no problem... that worked ...yes?
[22:50] <joseph_> iflema: 20 gig it is. One last thing. How do I put my seperate /tmp partition back into root with gparted? Do I just unmount?
[22:50] <Roasted> If I use GParted to format my Sandisk Sansa Fuze, what would ultimately happen? Would I be able to re-load the firmware and get the thing rolling again?
[22:50] <Bigbucks> exutux: how do I set it to the correct perms?
[22:51] <scottnyc> yeah
[22:51] <pupuserfac32c> I just did apt0get ubuntu-desktop and it is trying to install it.
[22:51] <ChogyDan> !who > pupuserfac32c
[22:51] <scottnyc> whats the command nto check verson again?
[22:51] <iflema> !fstab | joseph_
[22:51] <coz_> scottnyc,  version of ubuntu?   lsb_release -a
[22:51] <doug9_> ubottu: reading now, thank you\
[22:51] <Bigbucks> This is interesting....
[22:51] <ChogyDan> pupuserfac32c: yeah, if you don't use the upgrade tool, it can leave the upgrade in a bad state
[22:52] <scottnyc> verson ofpython i just installed
[22:52] <exutux> Bigbucks: sudo chmod 755 /var/www/ && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:52] <ResQue> pr0ph3t, yes it did,
[22:52] <scottnyc> its like v- python
[22:52] <Bigbucks> jrib: exutux: it appears it was looking for "htdocs"
[22:52] <ChogyDan> pupuserfac32c: I would also do the task: `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^`        with a ^
[22:52] <joseph_> iflema: Alright, well, I'll have a look at those. Thank you very much for your help!
[22:52] <ResQue> pr0ph3t, i am not sure what happend, i installed the driver, loged off and X wouldnt show back up. i guess it needed a restart
[22:52] <brontoeee> exutux, that would be 403, permission denied
[22:52] <coz_> scottnyc,  python --version
[22:52] <tripelbaby> Hi all. I'm really a baby at this but... I'd like to write a skype driver for my webcam. It's a logitech. I'd need help. Prolly some basics. And a driver of a similar webcam. (The newer webcams all have skype drivers.) Where would I go to look and learn?
[22:53] <xtbgod> i'm not sure of which GCC to download
[22:53] <iflema> joseph_: tmp should be as simple as a new fstab entry....
[22:53] <ResQue> pr0ph3t, on other version of linux, i just run the command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and the drivers where active. but this time i tryed that and it said something like gdm is set to an upstart job and can not be reset do u know what that means?
[22:53] <exutux> brontoeee: 755 default permission for /var/www/
[22:54] <brontoeee> exutux, yes, but he is geting 404
[22:54] <iflema> joseph_: and somewher to mount it =)
[22:54] <Bigbucks> exutux: Don't ask how it happened, but somehow apache was thinking htdocs was the webroot. That doesn't seem normal for linux....windows, it does, but linux....
[22:54] <exutux> brontoeee: oh sure, but permissions was wrong tooy
[22:54] <exutux> too*
[22:54] <brontoeee> exutux, right
[22:54] <coz_> xtbgod,  are you in synaptic pacakage manager?
[22:54] <kevin_> @tripelbaby you might want to look into editting v4l & v4l2 things
[22:55] <joseph_> iflema: I'll have to look into fstab for that. Possibly in your links.
[22:55] <xtbgod> i'm sorry but this is my first day here
[22:55] <coz_> xtbgod,  ok go to System/Administration/synaptic package manager
[22:55] <exutux> Bigbucks: 777 for /var/www/ is wrong and usercure too ...
[22:56] <Bigbucks> exutux: Any idea what the problem is? I dont know where it is getting htdocs from....and I want to be able to change the location....
[22:56] <xtbgod> ok, now?
[22:56] <coz_> xtbgod,  also when addressing some one in particular,,, if you type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name  then hit tab  it should autocomplete their name which will alert them on their end... you may have to tab more than once
[22:56] <exutux> Bigbucks: you said that it is a default install of apache right?
[22:56] <coz_> xtbgod,   ok  now hit the "Search"  button and type in    gcc
[22:56] <iflema> joseph_: also note the file permissions tmp has, r+w+x for all user/groups
[22:57] <jrib> Bigbucks: how did you install apache?
[22:57] <exutux> Bigbucks: so is very strange default isnatall i think
[22:57] <hellslinger> does anything have to be done to get emerald to start by default?
[22:57] <Bigbucks> exutux: I looked in the error log, and during the time, it was searching for "htdocs"
[22:57] <romistrub> I just realized that ubuntu is 50% u
[22:57] <coz_> xtbgod,  actually  after that ,, which will list the available gcc packages  ,,, hit the "Reload" button   then hit the "Mark all upgrades"  button
[22:57] <xtbgod> coz_, ok
[22:57] <digiwicki> i am running 10.10. Very serious about getting swgemu up and running properly. installed wine and config as per swgemu's forum info. get it to run, but with terrible display of graphics. can someone help me figure this out?
[22:58] <Bigbucks> jrib: exutux: I believe I looked off of the linux site, I installed it with the command "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[22:58] <jrib> Bigbucks: do you have /var/www/.htaccess?
[22:58] <Bigbucks> no, I dont
[22:58] <coz_> xtbgod,  after the Mark all upgrades  hit the "Apply" button if anything needs to be upgraded
[22:58] <jrib> Bigbucks: sudo service apache2 stop    what does your browser do then?
[22:59] <sacarlson> Bigbucks: but didn't you also delete the default page that apache puts in for you?
[22:59] <coz_> xtbgod,  it should also include any updates or changes to  gcc
[22:59] <tripelbaby> kevin_ ok. google gives me some links. ty
[22:59] <xtbgod> coz_, otherwise it will show me the Mark additional required changes?
[22:59] <Bigbucks> jrib: I am unable to connect.
[22:59] <coz_> xtbgod,  yes if there are updates after hitting "Reload"  the mark upgrades button will be activated
[23:00] <coz_> xtbgod,  this can also be on in terminal with   sudo apt-get update  &&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:00] <jrib> Bigbucks: ok, « sudo service apache2 start », pastebin /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[23:00] <exutux> Bigbucks: maybe is betetr that you pastebin your /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[23:00] <exutux> jrib: lol
[23:00] <sacarlson> Bigbucks: maybe you should pastebin your apache2 config file for us to see /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default  or whatever you have it named
[23:00] <exutux> another
[23:00] <Bigbucks> uggh lol
[23:01] <jrib> heh
[23:01] <xtbgod> coz_, ok, thank you. I'll be back when it's done
[23:01] <coz_> xtbgod,  cool
[23:01] <coz_> xtbgod,   this is also one of the several channels you should most likely "hang out " in
[23:02] <Stew_822> Hello :]
[23:02] <tripelbaby> xtbgod, listen to coz_  -- imho synaptic is a sinkhole.
[23:02] <xtbgod> coz_, now i see why people prefers this =D
[23:02] <coz_> tripelbaby,  ooo I like synaptic,, and unfortunately it may be gone at some point
[23:03] <coz_> xtbgod,  you mean prefer linux  or this channel?
[23:03] <ugurerkan> test
[23:03] <Stew_822> I was wondering how can I change the program that starts when I use a shortcut (to a directory) in gnome-do, the current program is chrome, and that isn't really all that great for browsing through my files :P
[23:03] <xtbgod> coz_, linux, where in the world would you get help like this..
[23:03] <coz_> ugurerkan,  it works ! :)
[23:03] <joseph_> iflema: I assume r+w+x means read/write/delete, correct?
[23:04] <coz_> xtbgod,  right  you will find you have much more power over you system with linux and of course the volunteer  support here is invaluable
[23:04] <coz_> although anyone willing to pay me  I could create a paypal button   lol
[23:04] <digiwicki> i am running 10.10. Very serious about getting swgemu up and running properly. installed wine and config as per swgemu's forum info. get it to run, but with terrible display of graphics. can someone help me figure this out or point in the right direction? dell inspiron 530
[23:05] <Stew_822> coz_: lol :)
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> joseph_, x mean eXecute for files, and access for directories
[23:05] <brontoeee> Stew_822, gnome-do is stagnating, you may want to search for alternatives anyway, kupfer for example <- not the anwer i know
[23:05] <iflema> joseph_: read/write/execute
[23:05] <joseph_> ZykoticK9: I see, thank you.
[23:05] <Stew_822> brontoeee: okay cool thanks :). It looks terrible on my LXDE desktop anyway :P
[23:06] <exutux> jrib: maybe he has an index.html joker and have 404 error inside html code LOL
[23:06] <brontoeee> coz_, nope, but i can make you a paypal button for a small donation ;)
[23:06] <jrib> exutux: I asked him that :)
[23:06] <joseph_> iflema: thank you as well. I appreciate your help.
[23:06] <coz_> brontoeee,   oh cool but I think everyone would be jealous :)
[23:06] <brontoeee> thats true
[23:06] <iflema> joseph_: in a terminal     sudo chmod 777 /tmp     will do it ifnthere is a /tmp
[23:07] <backbox_> hello
[23:07] <joseph_> iflema: I have a terminal open. should I input the command?
[23:07] <backbox_> ahah
[23:09] <iflema> joseph_: do it the livecd, move ya poartitions make a new /tmp and assign the file permissions, fstab, happy days =)
[23:10] <joseph_> iflema: alright. I'll write it down and use it via LiveCD. Thank you again!
[23:11] <scottnyc> whats the best text editor for ubuntu
[23:13] <middle> Hey can anyone help me test a line of Bash? I just need someone with Lynx isntalled
[23:13] <middle> Just need someone to tell me teh output of: lynx -dump ip2location.com | grep 'Location :'| tail -c +26
[23:14] <Zaffzaff> How do I configure a thumbdrive to be recognized by ubuntu? Need it for a boot drive
[23:14] <Zaffzaff> 'the make startup disk' ap wont let me make a startup disk with it
[23:15] <Paddy_NI> Hey I have two sata hard drives one with win7 installed and one with ubuntu, my computer no longer automatically boots.. instead I have to press f11 (boot selection) menu during POST and select the drive manually to boot each time
[23:15] <xtbgod> Ok it is now installing software
[23:15] <surreal7z> middle CROATIA, SPLITSKO-DALMATINSKA, SPLIT   lynx the output
[23:15] <MY3rdEYE> for some reason unknown my applications task bar has disappeared as well as the tray at the bottom showing programs running. I have tried many ways to get them back but am becoming frustrated - can any one help?
[23:15] <surreal7z> if i got it right
[23:15] <Zaffzaff> paddy try f10 in startup and navigate to boot order
[23:16] <Zaffzaff> my3rdeye restart pc
[23:16] <Zaffzaff> worked for my notebook
[23:16] <Zaffzaff> i did the same thing
[23:16] <MY3rdEYE> tried that did not work
[23:16] <Zaffzaff> i saw a page on google for it a while ago, but that was for an older version
[23:16] <bc81> MY3rdEYE: you re-added them to the panel?
[23:16] <Paddy_NI> Zaffzaff: Makes no difference already done that still sits there with blinking white cursor
[23:17] <sprung> Hi. I just started up Ubuntu and i have no menubars
[23:17] <Zaffzaff> can anyone answer my question about the thumbdrive though?
[23:17] <sprung> i have a terminal, what should i type
[23:17] <MY3rdEYE> tried - it would not let me access the panel in menu
[23:17] <bc81> !panels | MY3rdEYE
[23:18] <ChogyDan> Paddy_NI: have you checked the boot order in the bios?
[23:18] <Philgood> Hello.  I've got a fresh install of Maverick using an NVIDIA sound card with a REALTEK chipset on an ASUS board and have no sound whatsoever.  I've tried a different (older) sound card and tested my speakers on my iPod (they work fine).  Anyone have any idea what I might be able to do to get sound working?  It worked fine before I reinstalled this weekend.
[23:18] <Paddy_NI> Zaffzaff: It starts fine when I manually select it, just does not start automagically... I have already removed and added "boot" flags to the drives in all combinations
[23:18] <Paddy_NI> ChogyDan: Yes
[23:18] <sprung> Hi. I just started up Ubuntu and i have no menubars. i have a terminal, how can i fix it
[23:18] <Paddy_NI> ChogyDan: HDD is first
[23:18] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: I think that might be that your lithium clock battery is dead on your mother board,  is you computer like 3 or more years old?
[23:18] <Zaffzaff> have you dried disabling all other boot sources paddy?
[23:19] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: nope its not the battery and the board is brand new
[23:19] <sprung> Hi. I just started up Ubuntu and i have no menubars. i have a terminal, how can i fix it
[23:19] <bc81> !patience | sprung
[23:19] <middle> Thanks usrrealz, can anyone else offer any output of:     * HOME
[23:19] <middle>     * TV LISTINGS
[23:19] <middle>     * PROGRAMMES
[23:19] <middle>     * WATCH 4oD
[23:19] <FloodBot1> middle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <Paddy_NI> it remembers all its settings correctly yet does not boot unless I manually choose it
[23:19] <ZykoticK9_> sprung, log out, and verify the Session is set to Gnome and not Xterm
[23:20] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: it sounds like the bios maybe then,  try enter bios and set the boot sequence
[23:20] <middle> Ouput of: lynx -dump ip2location.com | grep 'Location :'| tail -c +26 WOuld bea appreciated
[23:20] <Paddy_NI> Windows drive is in sata 1 and linux in sata 2
[23:20] <Philgood> Anyone have any advice for no sound in 10.10 after a fresh install?
[23:20] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: I already told you I have done that
[23:21] <Zaffzaff> philgood: what machine are you one?
[23:21] <Zaffzaff> on*
[23:21] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: well the f11 I think that's before the boot loader am I wrong?
[23:21] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: that is what I have to do already to get it to boot
[23:21] <adamruffolo>  I have a work network without domains.  Just pcs with work groups.  Working with a Windows 2003 Server. The server is old and I'm disliking windows.  I want to upgrade the server.  I'm looking at Ubuntu Server.  Any thoughts?
[23:21] <Philgood> The sound card is on my ASUS mobo, REALTEK chipset NVIDIA card.  its a AMD athlon 3600+ system.  A bit dated.
[23:21] <bc81> Philgood: you have checked for Additional Drivers?
[23:22] <Philgood> bc81: I have, yes.
[23:22] <sprung> ZykoticK9_, It says "Not Responding: Panel" in a window
[23:22] <sprung> ZykoticK9_, i think the issue is not what you said and tyhat Panel somehow crashed. How do i fix it.
[23:22] <Philgood> bc81: Though I haven't checked with NVIDIA yet
[23:22] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: what I mean is it never gets to grub for the f11 question,  I think it's still running in bios code,  am I wrong?
[23:22] <ZykoticK9_> sprung, "killall -9 gnome-panel" perhaps
[23:23] <brontoeee> adamruffolo, what is the server supposed to do?
[23:23] <sprung> ZykoticK9_, answered my own question
[23:23] <sprung> ZykoticK9_, that fixed the problem.
[23:23] <xtbgod> coz_, it finished upgrading now what?
[23:23] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: Sorry sir I do not understand what you mean
[23:23] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: ah yes it does not get to grub unless I press f11 during post
[23:23] <coz_> xtbgod,   well my guess is that gcc is also updated,,, what was the need to get gcc in the first place?
[23:24] <adamruffolo> I don't think I'll get my co-workers to agree with domain server administration.  They don't like it that way.  But it'll mainly be a storage server and possibly, if I can twist some arms, have it be a non-internet work domain server
[23:24] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: then I have to choose the samsung drive labelled 3M
[23:24] <Zaffzaff> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu recognize a thumbdrive?
[23:24] <xtbgod> coz_, programming
[23:24] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: the other drive is called 4M and this does not boot
[23:24] <coz_> xtbgod,  ah ok  mmm   test it now  and see if it is the required version
[23:24] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: windows boots fine too from the grub menu
[23:24] <adamruffolo> Zaffzaff: did you hook it in to the USB port?
[23:25] <khafra> My GUI keeps going unresponsive with a stream of errors like (gnome-panel:1862) GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: Assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[23:25] <Philgood> zaffzaff: I've never had any trouble with it.  Make sure you're plugging it into a USB2.0 port though.
[23:25] <Zaffzaff> yes it's ina  port
[23:25] <khafra> Googling the errors leads to forum posts on completely unrelated problems
[23:25] <nRy> has anyone been successful in using an OCZ HSDL solid-state hard drive with Ubuntu???
[23:25] <nRy> http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid-state-drives/hsdl.html
[23:25] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: well it's not a ubuntu problem it's in bios or hardware
[23:25] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: If it's an older machine that may be your issue
[23:25] <nRy> they do not officially support Linux but I am wondering if there might happen to be drivers for Ubuntu
[23:25] <Zaffzaff> hp davilion dv 2000
[23:25] <khafra> How do I stop the intermittently unresponsive GUI?
[23:25] <adamruffolo> Zaffazaff: open a browser window and go to media storage.  See if anything shows up there.
[23:25] <Zaffzaff> what can i do about that?
[23:25] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: it worked perfectly fine before installing ubuntu
[23:25] <xtbgod> coz_, how remember i'm new :S and sorry for bothering
[23:25] <Zaffzaff> it's an 07 laptop
[23:26] <brontoeee> adamruffolo, shrug, did you ask in #ubuntu-server allready?
[23:26] <[thor]> nRy: i haven't used an ocz, but i use an intel x25 and a kingston
[23:26] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: well you have two drives try unplug one
[23:26] <Zaffzaff> it sees the drive it just wont let me make a starup disk with it
[23:26] <ohsix> nRy: the siliconimage controller they use should work
[23:26] <Zaffzaff> the drive is recognized, it just doesnt want to let me use it
[23:26] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: Ooooh, okay, that's different then.
[23:26] <Zaffzaff> ?
[23:26] <coz_> xtbgod,  no problem and no bother
[23:27] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, still there?   I've tried it and I can't get it working still
[23:27] <adamruffolo> brontoeee: nope.  Didn't realize that channel existed. *hits head with hand*  should'a been obvious.  Asking there now.  Tks
[23:27] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: I was hoping opening this thing up would be a last resort
[23:27] <Zaffzaff> im very new to ubuntu so if I missed something then yeah...
[23:27] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI:  I think you can disable the drive in bios
[23:27] <coz_> xtbgod,  but if you are coding anything that will not work with that version of gcc  ,,, which seems surprising...then you need to test that
[23:27] <bc81> Zaffzaff: what drive is it
[23:27] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: That's not something I've ever messed with but give me a minute.  I think I recall seeing something somewhere, I may be able to come up with it.
[23:27] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: then I no longer have use of the drive?
[23:28] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: it's just to verify your problem,  try disabe one then the other
[23:28] <Zaffzaff> thanks phil, bc18 what info do you want about it?
[23:28] <bc81> Zaffzaff: make model of thumbdrive
[23:28] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: Okay, what's your drive mounted as?
[23:28] <Zaffzaff> it's a PNX 4gig, hold on...
[23:28] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: its not a hardware malfunction.. I am convinced its to do with the bootloader or boot flags
[23:29] <Zaffzaff> /dev/sdb
[23:29] <Zaffzaff> smart status: not supported
[23:29] <nRy> thor: I am using an x25 as well and it works fine
[23:29] <Zaffzaff> serial: 4510100000193764
[23:29] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: I don't think grub uses boot flag,  what disk do you point in bios to boot from?
[23:29] <kevin_> is there a network file manager that works between windows and ubuntu?
[23:29] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: Are you trying to use the startup disk utility in System>Administration?
[23:29] <dantastic> hello, is there a particular section to go for people utterly new to linux/ubuntu?
[23:30] <Zaffzaff> yes phil
[23:30] <Zaffzaff> creat startup disk
[23:30] <Black_knight> sacarlson : Is ubuntu 10.4 LTS  more stable than 10.10?
[23:30] <bc81> !samba
[23:30] <nRy> ohsix: I talked to OCZ on the phone and they said the drivers required for HDSL are only for Windows right now.
[23:30] <Philgood> Is the drive showing in the list but greyed out?
[23:30] <brontoeee> kevin_, ftp, ssh, samba, whatnot?
[23:30] <Zaffzaff> startup disk creator*
[23:30] <alisalaah> UBUNTU 10.10 :: is there a way to expand the border on windows to enable the resize ability... i find it very hard to just easily resize windows sometimes with this touchpad.
[23:30] <Paddy_NI> sacarlson: I'll be back need to calm my head
[23:30] <ohsix> nRy: post the output of lspci -vv -nn to a pastebin
[23:30] <Zaffzaff> yes phil
[23:31] <bc81> alisalaah: some themes only have 1 pixel border, try using a differnt them perhaps
[23:31] <tim167> hello, i'm trying to compile ARToolKit, can anyone help ?
[23:31] <Zaffzaff> the drive is there, but underneat that the "when starting up...to make startup disk" is greyed
[23:31] <Philgood> Do you have the disk image you're trying to create from selected?
[23:31] <alisalaah> bc81, this is default theme sometimes, any way to specify a 1-2px leniency on each side or something?
[23:31] <sacarlson> Black_knight: I'm not sure,  they both work for me,  I normaly run 10.04 on my main computer as I don't like to upgrade it's too much trouble and just causes problems,  if it's not broke don't fix it
[23:31] <nRy> ohsix: wouldn't I need a special driver for Ubuntu to talk to the SandForce SF-1222 processor in the IBIS? http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-ibis-3-5-high-speed-data-link-ssd.html
[23:32] <Zaffzaff> everything underneath the erase disk button is greyed accept help and close
[23:32] <bc81> alisalaah: also, the bottom right corner is good to resize windows, there is more to grab onto.  i suppose you can edit the theme, but i'm not sure how to
[23:32] <drc> .clear
[23:32] <Philgood> Up above where you pick your removable media there should be an "other" button, hit that and browse to your .ISO of the Ubuntu disk and I think it should work.
[23:32] <nRy> ohsix: I do not have an IBIS drive yet, but I am thinking of picking one up at Micro Center before they close tonight...but only if I can find out if it would work
[23:32] <ohsix> nRy: ah i'm thinking of some other pci-e ssd's they have
[23:33] <ohsix> nRy: if ocz says they dont, they don't
[23:33] <bc81> alisalaah: also, compiz config settings manager (ccsm) has some resize options (key combinations and whatnot)
[23:33] <ohsix> nRy: they do have plug in ssd's that do work though
[23:33] <Zaffzaff> i have the download for ubuntu 10.10 maveric selected, that's alright
[23:33] <AndrewMC> eMac536$%^
[23:33] <Philgood> Okay
[23:33] <alisalaah> bc81, thanks... bot right corner is hard too without a mouse, but i'll work with that.. i know OSX and Windows have the same thing they just use thicker borders but i like the look enough to just fight with it
[23:33] <Black_knight> sacarlson so you think  10.04  is better?
[23:33] <AndrewMC> oops sorry
[23:33] <Jordan_U> alisalaah: Have you tried holding alt and using the middle mouse button to resize?
[23:33] <nRy> ohsix: are you thinking of this one? http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-z-drive-r2-e88-pci-express-ssd.html
[23:33] <alisalaah> trackpad.. no mouse
[23:34] <ohsix> yep
[23:34] <alisalaah> but i can make a hotkey for resize then use that hotkey
[23:34] <sacarlson> Black_knight: I like lts  I only upgrade when I have to so lts gives me more time
[23:34] <nRy> this one does support Linux, but can't get one at a local store and I need a really really fast IO device asap
[23:34] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, ok try in the the terminal, it's important that you name the channel how it's named in alsamixer - case sensitive too, so take note
[23:34] <Black_knight> sacarlson 10.10 consumes more cpu resources
[23:34] <bc81> alisalaah: also, right-clicking on the title bar gives you risize too
[23:35] <Jmob> hi, installing linux on HDD with 3 partitions.  One blank ext4, one NTFS with w7, one recovery partition for w7 (will set back to a University's image.)  Where do I tell the installer to put the bootloader?
[23:35] <g_> how do i remove a repos once i've added one?
[23:35] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: hmmm... 4GB oughta be big enough... I guess you've tried formatting the thumb drive if it gives you that option?  Otherwise I'm afraid I got nothin.  Sorry :(
[23:35] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, use alsamixer to mute and change volume - then amixer in terminal to set it as you want
[23:35] <g_> i'm getting: GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release:
[23:35] <bc81> alisalaah: alt+f8
[23:35] <Zaffzaff> idk how to format it properly for this
[23:35] <sacarlson> Black_knight: it does?  I'm not sure,  normaly I just pull backports or ppa if I need a small part upgraded
[23:35] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, if the channel is called Speaker in alsamixer then -> amixer set Speaker unmute 80% - should work
[23:36] <Zaffzaff> my bad lost connection
[23:36] <alisalaah> bc81, Gracias! the hotkeys and such are a good enough solution :)
[23:36] <lostinit> morning everyone
[23:36] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: I think by default USB media is done in FAT32 to be universal platform.  I'm pretty sure you can boot ubuntu from FAT, but I know there was one common one you can't boot from...
[23:36] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, once it works in terminal add it to rc.local
[23:37] <NixGeek> I'm trying to encrypt a flash drive with truecrypt.   I want a partition and then a hidden volume, and it's not giving me format options page
[23:37] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: NTFS most likely is what I'm thinking of.  So try keeping it FAT32 and see what it does for you
[23:37] <alisalaah> used ubuntu for YEARS via ssh only and such so not really a nub.. but only after 10.4 and 10.10 have i liked the desktop experience enough to ditch both OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 on every computer I own
[23:37] <Zaffzaff> yeah the guide said it had to be in fat32 but i dont know how to don that
[23:37] <Black_knight> sacarlson : a friend of mine told me that 10.04 is based on debian testing while 10.04 on unstable debian
[23:37] <sacarlson> Black_knight: I play with all the new stuff in virtualbox so I can see what it does,
[23:37] <Zaffzaff> do that*
[23:37] <ohsix> nRy: apparently it still shows the same controller http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?78957-OCZ-IBIS-Support-for-Linux-! you just need to glue them together with md
[23:37] <gigaroc> Hello, i'm using 11.04, and when i compile so code that works on 10.10, i get a linker error undefined reference to `mysql_real_connect'  undefined reference to `mysql_error' etc.  it's as if the linker is not linking the library's correctly.  but i'm using pkg-config --libs and mysql-config --libs.  has anyone seen this problem?
[23:38] <bc81> alisalaah: glad to hear you joined the revolution ;-)
[23:38] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: As it turns out I've got a crappy USB HDD plugged in right now.  Let me see how far I can get without actually formatting it and help ya out.
[23:38] <dantastic> can anyone tell me how to get to the #ubuntu-beginners channel? not sure on how to do that...
[23:38] <sacarlson> Black_knight: I'm sure we share with debian and they from us
[23:38] <Zaffzaff> thanks phil
[23:38] <alisalaah> dantastic, /join #ubuntu-beginners
[23:38] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0,  it works in the terminal but not in rc.local
[23:38] <dantastic> thank you!
[23:38] <meLon> I have a large mp3 i recorded and would like to split it into smaller mp3s.  Any suggestions on what to use?
[23:38] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, can you pastebin your rc.local
[23:39] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0,  just to make sure your talking about /etc/rc.local right?
[23:39] <sacarlson> Black_knight: I started in debian and moved to ubuntu since it had more support and was more on the edge of newer things
[23:39] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, yep
[23:39] <tim167> can anyone help me compile ARToolkit?
[23:39] <alisalaah> bc81, i'm a long time developer and such and ... people who know, ubuntu
[23:39] <bc81> meLon: Mp3split-gtk
[23:39] <GeekyAdam> sup geeks
[23:39] <nRy> ohsix: taking a look now
[23:39] <bc81> alisalaah: this is true :-)
[23:39] <ohsix> nRy: the only thing that might not work is using it at the same time in windows and linux; i dont know if they use their own software read header or if they use the one usually on silicon image controllers
[23:39] <Black_knight> sacarlson: I like debian but it's not easy for me to use it
[23:40] <LonelyDragon757> I am getting frustrated with my Ubuntu 10.10 installation... had issues with my 10.04. and did an apt-get dist-update. and finally got back into my desktop... but it is having issues (and 10.04 did too)  with my xorg.conf file... and not sure how in the world to Fix it... and it is upsetting me...  stuck at 1024x768.
[23:40] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: Okay, it looks like just hitting erase disk comes up with a "yes or no" dialogue, but if you go to "Computer" you can choose specific formats of which FAT is an option (you'll want the non encrypted one).  I don't know if that'll fix your issue though.
[23:40] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0,  http://pastebin.com/NWHc1tCs
[23:40] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: It's what I'd try in your shoes.
[23:40] <LonelyDragon757> i had to delete the xorg.conf file to even allow startx to start.
[23:40] <devyll> hello. Any idea how could I change the resolution in tty mode (alt f1 - f6) and also the verbose boot (no quite splash options in grub) messages screen ?
[23:40] <Zaffzaff> ok one minute...
[23:40] <nRy> ohsix: I would be using this in a linux server so no Windows
[23:40] <tim167> I'm trying to compile ARToolKit, but i get stuck at make, can anyone help?
[23:40] <nRy> just Windows VM's
[23:40] <nRy> but that is different
[23:40] <Black_knight> sacarlson: thank you.
[23:40] <Anthraxium> http://www.veronicatv.nl/web/show/id=1428450/langid=43/dbid=538/typeofpage=78964
[23:41] <sacarlson> LonelyDragon757:  I assume you must have installed propriatary video?
[23:42] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, that should work is the channel definitely called - Speaker    ??
[23:42] <nRy> ohsix: I do not see anywhere in that OCZ forum where it says that the IBIS will work with Linux. OCZ clearly states there that they will not support it. I talked to tech support and they said they just have not made the drivers yet
[23:42] <Zaffzaff> cant even find the drive int he computer directory
[23:42] <Zaffzaff> in the*
[23:42] <ohsix> nRy: it's not about "IBIS" really, it's the controller they use, which is from silicon image and works
[23:43] <ohsix> nRy: ask them what controller it uses
[23:43] <Zaffzaff> isnt on my desktop either, i access it through system>admin>disk utility
[23:43] <Zaffzaff> and it's at the bottom of the menu on the left
[23:43] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: It should show up as removable media or something like that.  Well I guess try the erase disk option, it should keep current formatting I would think.
[23:44] <bc81> devyll: this may be of help to you > http://www.rvdavid.net/setting-tty-virtual-consoles-resolution-with-grub-2-in-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/
[23:44] <Black_knight> ohsix: from ubuntu what are the hot keys to restart the x window
[23:44] <Zaffzaff> tried erasing, did nothing. will look for removable media though
[23:44] <tim167> can anyone help me compile ARToolKit? i get stuck at make...
[23:44] <induz> how can i network/workgroup Lucid with window 7 computer?
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> !compile | tim167
[23:44] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: Alright.
[23:44] <ohsix> Black_knight: DontZap is enabled on ubuntu, so the regular key combo doesn't work
[23:44] <induz> window 7 says it can only join the workgroup of another window 7
[23:45] <surreal7z> !compile
[23:45] <devyll> bc81,  thankx
[23:45] <LonelyDragon757> sacarlson   propriatary video?  i am somewhat a medium newb... what is that.  i don't know if I installed anything extra
[23:45] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, yes
[23:45] <induz> is it possible to networking Lucid
[23:45] <Black_knight> ohsix: what can I do then?
[23:45] <sacarlson> LonelyDragon757: then why would you even have an xorg.conf file?
[23:45] <Zaffzaff> can't find it
[23:45] <tim167> ﻿aeon-ltd:  i know how to compile, but i don't know how to solve "ccvt_i386.S:32:27: error: linux/linkage.h: No such file or directory"
[23:45] <induz> do i have download something
[23:46] <sacarlson> LonelyDragon757: what method are you using to attempt to change resolution?
[23:46] <induz> it says Could not display "network:///"
[23:46] <tim167> has anyone compiled ARToolKit on ubuntu ?
[23:46] <Zaffzaff> also somehting else to note, before this i tried to burn to a cd, and it didn't even see it in the menu at all
[23:46] <Philgood> Zaffzaff: Well consider me tapped out then, brother.  I came in looking for help and am still puzzled myself.  Sorry I couldn't fix ya up.
[23:46] <LonelyDragon757> sacarlson.  i thought I needed an xorg.conf file.      (tried to change resolution with the desktop icon thingie) but doens't give me any addtional options
[23:46] <Zaffzaff> it's alright, I'm happy ya tried
[23:47] <induz> networking with MS 7 computer, how
[23:47] <Philgood> Thanks for your time, folks.
[23:47] <Black_knight> ohsix: how to restart the x window from ubuntu?
[23:47] <xtbgod> coz_, don't worry i got it =D
[23:47] <coz_> xtbgod,  cool
[23:47] <tim167> trying to compile ARToolKit, i get "ccvt_i386.S:32:27: error: linux/linkage.h: No such file or directory" after make command, googled it for hours, can anyone help?
[23:47] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, can you try this with another channel to make sure it isn't something peculiar to the speaker channel for example Master ?
[23:48] <sacarlson> LonelyDragon757: did you try anything like this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-screen-resolution-in-ubuntu.html
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> tim167: try:  dpkg -S linkage.h    make sure you have the file
[23:48] <Black_knight> sacarlson: how to restart the x window from ubuntu?
[23:48] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, it works for master in the terminal
[23:49] <cbf> g'day folks
[23:49] <tim167> ActionParsnip: thanks, i have the file 20 times or so
[23:49] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, does it work for Speaker in the terminal ?
[23:49] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, yes
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> tim167: maybe: https://launchpad.net/~artoolkit-dev/+archive/ppa   will help ;)
[23:49] <sacarlson> Black_knight:  maybe sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:49] <cbf> hoping one of you might be able to help, pls - i have ubuntu 10.10 and am having some probs with ndiswrapper
[23:49] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, does it work for master in rc.local?
[23:50] <ShapeShifter499> let me try brb
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> tim167: it has the latest version already built...
[23:50] <cbf> i have the driver and the device showing as "present"
[23:50] <Black_knight> sacarlson: I want to use hot keys is that possible?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> tim167: have you seen that before?
[23:50] <Roasted> Why is it when I create a playlist on my Sansa mp3 player thruogh Banshee, it registers as a playlist but it ALWAYS comes through empty?
[23:50] <ChogyDan> anyone know how to test laptop keys?  ie, is there a prog to see the keycodes or something?
[23:50] <sacarlson> Black_knight: I'm not sure what you want to do you can go to console with <ctl><alt> + f2
[23:50] <tim167> ActionParsnip: really?! wow! how come i never found that! ? :)
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> tim167: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:artoolkit-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install artoolkit
[23:51] <tim167> ActionParsnip: but how do i download those ?
[23:51] <cbf> any ndiswrapper experts here?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> tim167: instead of reaching for source. ALWAYS search in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas first
[23:51] <Black_knight> sacarlson: thanks
[23:51] <tim167> ActionParsnip: aah too quick many thanks
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> tim167: I gave the command to add the ppa and install
[23:52] <nRy> ohsix: the other thing you have to be able to clean the drive.....i think for IBIS it means a complete and deep reformat
[23:52] <ResQue> can anyone recommend any good games for me to play on linux?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> tim167: even if a LOT of PPAs show, check them al
[23:52] <NixGeek> in lucid, I'm trying to use truecrypt, and i'm have a problem: using the "create a volume within a partition/drive" option and "hidden Truecrypt volume" option, It doens't give me an option to format
[23:52] <nRy> ohsix: do you know how I would clean the IBIS drive even if I got it working with Ubuntu?
[23:52] <induz> can u suggest me any website link to read about networking with windows 7 computers??
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> ResQue: what sort of game do you like?
[23:52] <ohsix> the controller handles that if it needs to be done at all
[23:52] <bc81> Roasted: any errore if you do this while running banshee from a terminal?
[23:52] <Ashlebede> Does anyone know if the ubuntu software center can evaluate the size of a package ?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> induz: connect them to the same subnet and they are networked
[23:53] <ResQue> ActionParsnip, any type at all, i really dont mind RTS, MMO, FPS, 3RD PERSON, really anything i dont mind
[23:53] <tim167> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot, i'm having a look at it now...
[23:53] <Loshki> !games
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ResQue: urbanterror and penumbra are great native FPS (penumbra isn't free but the demo is)
[23:53] <ResQue> ActionParsnip, even 2d games are fine. something with a plot and a story would be nice.
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ResQue: or frets on fire :)
[23:54] <_Silence_> hellow room
[23:54] <induz> ActionParsnip, I guess subnet is 255.255.255.0
[23:54] <_Silence_> could be
[23:54] <ResQue> ActionParsnip, thanks i will have a look at the now
[23:54] <tim167> ActionParsnip: first try, i get " E: Couldn't find package artoolkit "
[23:54] <_Silence_> can i get to 20_something on this server?
[23:54] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, no it did not work.... its like re.local is not working
[23:55] <_Silence_> for ICQ
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ResQue: there is a game I remember which won awards, kinda like ecco the dolphn, but I cant remember the name
[23:55] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, *rc.local
[23:55] <bc81> ResQue: i like abe's amazing adventure, secret maryo chronicles, teeworlds, hedgewars..jump'n'bump is too much fun when you have friends over
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> tim167: try searching in software centre, which release are you on?
[23:55] <ResQue> ActionParsnip, i used to play that on the megadrive years a go. what a cool game lol
[23:55] <GeekyAdam> ResQue: could just use emulators and play old SNES/Sega/NES/etc games.
[23:55] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, :/
[23:56] <GeekyAdam> also, Adom
[23:56] <tim167> ActionParsnip: right now on Hardy, but have a Maverick too...
[23:56] <ResQue> GeekyAdam, good idea. got any links. i might play super mario bro haha
[23:56] <ResQue> bc81, googleing them now
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> tim167: d'oh it only supports hardy, gutsy and feisty (of all releases :()
[23:56] <GeekyAdam> here's a shameless blog post plug: http://adamwright.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/adom-is-nethack-for-simple-rpg-lovers/
[23:56] <gmg> Can someone help me with a network issue please?
[23:56] <kdog> what is a good password manager in Ubuntu? The ones in the software center don't have recent releases.
[23:56] <ResQue> ActionParsnip, this proumbra looks good. i might buy it i like supporting games that support linux. like savage its a step in the right direction
[23:56] <tim167> ActionParsnip: yes, but i'm on hardy now, so it should be possible here
[23:56] <Ashlebede> Can the Ubuntu Software Center tell me the size of a package before downloading it ?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ResQue: also check playdeb, you can add their repo with this: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[23:57] <g_0_0> ShapeShifter499, ok try putting ->   sleep 20 && amixer set Speaker unmute 80%  - in rc.local
[23:57] <GeekyAdam> Ashlebede: i dont know but if u use the command-line, "sudo apt-get install package" will show you how much space is needed before isntalling.
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ResQue: you can then install any of these games: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/10.10/
[23:58] <sacarlson> !detail | gmg
[23:58] <gmg> Ashlebed>>>click on info after you have click on the program
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> tim167: awesome!!!
[23:58] <bc81> ResQue: talso, check out the humble indie bundles, those are some great games that run in linux
[23:58] <ShapeShifter499> g_0_0, ok
[23:58] <gmg> I need to automatic reconnect a Ad-Hoc wireless network on startup
[23:59] <lmh9974a> Salut
[23:59] <JeffCBR> What file system does Ubuntu use?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> JeffCBR: default is ext4
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> JeffCBR: depends what you chose at install, but default is ext4
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> JeffCBR: but you can use ext2 or ext3 or even btrfs if you wish