[00:52] I added an awfully ugly splash screen hahahah ;D A stretched launcher icon, how clever is that! [00:52] I would seriously jump into Gimp if I didn't know there was a Design team working on it :D [08:32] Hi, Anyone here knows if you can ask for a backup of you Ubuntu One account ? (eg can I have the status of last month) [08:32] And a second question, is the storage on your ubuntu one account safe ? in the sense that only the user can read (/write) what is in there ? [08:33] I am about to store a SVN repo on ubuntu one containing code (that may not yet be released) [08:33] And I wonder if that would be a safe place.. [08:42] anyone alive in here ? [08:46] hy there [08:46] is rye there? [08:46] ...sry.. here? [08:47] or any real pro? [08:53] baphometos: ping [08:59] hy [09:00] thank you [09:00] got a real big problem with ubuntu one [09:01] in the settings box, the options "bookmarks, history, contacts" are greyed out [09:01] i cant sync @ evolution [09:01] couch db pairing tool is installed [09:01] but in shell there's in error-message that the tool can't be found [09:04] Greetings, fellow Mondaymorningites! Best wishes for your journey! [09:14] baphometos: can you try the steps listed under Killing and Restarting Desktopcouch http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/Documentation/Troubleshooting [09:16] sigh, reboot [09:17] lenny@linuxdose:~$ killall beam - beam: Kein Prozess gefunden - lenny@linuxdose:~$ [09:17] lenny@linuxdose:~$ killall beam.smp [09:17] beam.smp: Kein Prozess gefunden [09:19] have to go for short, be right back 5 minutes [09:24] kk back [09:28] wb baphometos [09:28] baphometos: did you make it through all 4 steps [09:29] well really the first three are the most important. The last one is just to verify that it restarted [09:31] no cant [09:31] lenny@linuxdose:~$ killall beam [09:31] beam: Kein Prozess gefunden [09:31] lenny@linuxdose:~$ killall beam.smp [09:31] beam.smp: Kein Prozess gefunden [09:31] baphometos: thats of [09:31] thats ok [09:31] ah ok [09:31] sry [09:32] the problem is probably that desktopcouch is not running and that is why those options are greyed out [09:33] open the bookmark file, which should then correctly take you to your desktopcouch web interface <--- doesnt [09:33] done the 4 steps as described [09:34] ok [09:34] everything seemed ok, bookmarked the page [09:37] ok, so you were able to get to the Futon interface? [09:37] no [09:38] connection error [09:38] http://localhost:46061/_utils [09:38] ok [09:41] i already tried another repository of ubuntu-one but i didnt work either [09:41] so couchdb is the point of failure indeed [09:42] sorry for my bad english [09:43] no worries, your english is fine :) [09:44] lets see if rye is available [09:44] duanedesign, i am available, but i can't get the logs for this chat yet, could you please paste your discussion with baphometos to me? [09:45] I think the log we want is ~/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.stdout [09:45] rye: yep [09:47] there's a desktop-couchdb.stdout.1 and a desktop-couchdb.stdout.2 [09:47] \ [09:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/569978/ [09:47] rye: ^ [09:50] so its pastin right now ^^ [09:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/569979/ [09:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/569980/ [09:51] baphometos, ok, could you please try starting /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service and see what it outputs? [09:52] lenny@linuxdose:~$ /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service [09:52] Traceback (most recent call last): [09:52] File "/usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service", line 51, in [09:52] import desktopcouch [09:52] ImportError: No module named desktopcouch [09:56] baphometos, well, looks like installation is incomplete, could you please check whether python-desktopcouch is installed - apt-cache policy python-desktopcouch [09:57] and i should have asked about ubuntu version [09:57] lenny@linuxdose:~$ sudo apt-cache policy python-desktopcouch [09:57] [sudo] password for lenny: [09:57] python-desktopcouch: [09:57] Installiert: (keine) [09:57] Kandidat: 0.6.9b-0ubuntu1 [09:57] Versionstabelle: [09:57] 0.6.9b-0ubuntu1 0 [09:57] 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages [09:58] lenny@linuxdose:~/.cache/desktop-couch$ uname -a [09:58] Linux linuxdose 2.6.35-25-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 17:40:48 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux [09:58] ubuntu 10.10 [09:59] baphometos, could you please try installing python-desktopcouch - sudo apt-get install python-desktopcouch ? [10:00] done [10:00] baphometos, could you please re-try running /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service ? [10:00] yes done [10:00] now... second [10:00] looks better [10:00] DEBUG:replication:finished replicating [10:00] DEBUG:root:starting replicator main loop [10:00] i wonder how that could possibly become uninstalled [10:01] hm [10:01] WARNING:root:shutting down personal couchdb. [10:01] dbus 2011-02-21 11:01:23,289 - shutting down personal couchdb. [10:01] Apache CouchDB has been shutdown. [10:01] canceled and now... [10:01] :) [10:01] looks gooood [10:02] second [10:02] starting again [10:02] hm... how to continue now? [10:03] should i leave the shell open for first and try @ evolution? [10:03] took a look @ the bookmark and still it said connection error [10:04] baphometos, connection error where? [10:04] http://localhost:39406/_utils [10:04] maybe i have to do the 4 steps again? [10:04] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/Documentation/Troubleshooting [10:04] do i? [10:05] baphometos, aha, well, you should reopen the bookmark file since it gets updated with port number every time couchdb is starting, since it starts at random ports [10:05] ah ok [10:05] second :) [10:05] thank you very much [10:05] you're king [10:05] if that works.... [10:06] it's my 2nd christmas [10:07] damn..... i'm at the web-interface :D :D :D [10:07] hello couchdb i missed u very much [10:07] can i support you in any way rye? [10:08] baphometos, well, supporting #ubuntuone is my job [10:08] cuz now everything works :) :) [10:09] so i'll buy some @ ubuntu-one [10:09] thank you man [10:09] have a good day [10:09] baphometos, while we are at it, there is one issue with evolution couchdb which i've been poking around, bug #673568 [10:09] Launchpad bug 673568 in evolution-couchdb (and 1 other project) "Error modifying contact, other error when saving contacts (affects: 38) (dups: 4) (heat: 190)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673568 [10:09] baphometos, ah, ok [10:10] ah, rodrigo_ switched to In Progress [10:10] * rye sits waiging for a fix [10:10] huh? [10:10] waiting [10:10] hm? [10:10] #673568 [10:10] how could i help you? [10:10] ah ok [10:10] fixed? [10:11] baphometos, at the moment evolution couchdb does not work properly with editing and deleting the contacts, so the functionality of desktopcouch for contacts is limited now [10:11] severely limited [10:11] ping rodrigo_, is there any progress on in-progress part of couchdb-glib? [10:12] ah ok.... for me the most important part is to sync my contacts to the database once in a while, not to edit them (for first) [10:13] i'll be back - if i've got any questions ;9 [10:14] till then... all the best 4 ya [10:22] ouch. back to code. [10:55] ok, testing [11:01] testing, testing, one, two. [11:05] @ping [11:05] pong [11:06] ^^ [11:06] an ANR is an insult, I feel terrible. [11:14] karni, don't, this is work in progress [11:14] I feel like I let you down o_O :S [11:14] it's expected to fail, that's exactly why I sent it around! [11:14] I'm already on it. Fixed one bug. [11:14] The second is hard to replicate, tried on Hero and Android 2.2 and 2.3 [11:15] We may have to descrese the database writes per transaction [11:15] karni, please don't feel rushed to fix things, this is just meant for you to get feedback and know what needs work [11:15] Probably that's what caused the TouchEventDispatch timeout (db was writing, and files activity wanted to load) [11:15] beuno: Uhm :) It's good it's finally out. [12:35] beuno: I have an important design question [12:35] karni, shoot [12:36] beuno: hah, I just found the solution :D [12:36] YOU'RE WELCOME [12:36] beuno: the thing was that the service could 90-sec timeout when user poked around preferences [12:36] hahahah [12:36] beuno: but now I see I can fix that the same way the rest of UI keeps the service on-going [12:36] * beuno nods [12:37] beuno: once I fix that, I'll send the apk to you and aq. I fixed the log reporting -- and once aq sends me back the reproduction of the ANR, I think we should update all the testers with that [12:37] as sendin the logs is pretty important right now, and.. how could I have even screwed this up :d [12:38] karni, sure. And again, don't stress about bugs, it's what we're lookng for at this stage! [12:39] beuno: I'll remember that. I was sure it would work nicely, and there you go, again Aq catches a terrible failure ;< heheheh. [12:39] beuno: the send logs feature is something like Chad once posted. "please report the crash with crashing report tool" [12:40] (crash of the crashing report tool :P) [12:41] karni, release early, release often comes with a lot of "d'oh" moments [12:41] better early than late ;) [12:41] you're right! [13:03] karni, for some months the "Microsoft windows malicious software removal utility" was distributed in russian-speaking countries under a name that roughtly translated to "Utility for removal of malicious Microsoft Windows software" [13:03] beuno: sent the u1f-rev34 to you and Stuart. if you'd like to test, please use that one. [13:03] rye: hahahah [13:04] karni, sure, although it worked for me previously [13:04] you've done a *fantastic* job implementing auto-sync [13:04] beuno: by the way! how.. oh :) [13:05] beuno: did you try uploads as well? [13:05] (thank you!) [13:05] karni, not yet, no [13:05] but will soon! [13:05] I was so preoccupied with Stuarts report I didn't even ask for feedback. ok! [13:05] yesterday I found an awesome piece of code, how do you throw an exception in c? [13:05] in order to exit the code block [13:05] you can't and you don't want to use goto and labels so you do... [13:06] do { something; if (error) break; } while(0);... it was so simple I thought it was an error [13:07] rye, you're a strange person [13:08] beuno, why? [13:08] beuno: I've been hardcore coding lately and haven't seen the gym for ~week. I'll take a break and be back a bit later, ok? [13:08] karni, enjoy [13:09] \o [13:09] rye, you enjoy strange things :) [13:33] beuno: cool, I received an update from verterok they'll be releasing new server software - that should enable me to implement directory size check before it starts syncing. [13:35] karni, perfect [13:46] mandel: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/use-new-syncademon-get-udf-fict/+merge/50594 ? control panel tests broke because what I think is a branch that landed from you [13:47] mandel: (our tests monky path syncdaemon in some private areas, so I fixed it) [13:47] beuno: would you trivial review https://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntuone-control-panel/fix-715879/+merge/50500 ? [13:47] nessita, sure [13:49] nessita, +1ed [13:49] beuno: thanks! [13:53] hello alecu mandel nessita thisfred, standup in 8' ;-) [13:53] hi ralsina [13:54] ralsina: could you please review? https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/use-new-syncademon-get-udf-fict/+merge/50594 tests broke after a syncdaemon update [13:54] nessita: ok, looking [13:58] nessita: what is the sd_dbus_iface object? is that theDBusInterface object from sd? [13:59] mandel: is the dbus_interface module [13:59] hello all! [13:59] sorry I'm late... [14:00] nessita: the module and not the class, right? [14:00] mandel: yes, the module [14:00] me [14:01] me [14:01] nessita: when continue after the stand up [14:01] not me today (no notes) [14:02] mandel: do you have some other question? the tests are not passing right now, and I think tarmac is not landing branches because of that [14:02] alecu, me? [14:02] me! [14:02] nessita: i know the issues, I'll add it in a comment [14:03] ah, do-bey and thatfred are on national holiday today [14:03] nessita: those tests pas, right? [14:03] mandel: the one in that branch, yes. The one in trunk, no. [14:03] right, forgot *fred was on holiday too [14:03] ok, nessita? [14:04] DONE: file storage project creation and setup, first branches. [14:04] TODO: community reviews, file storage api, bug triage, fix U1CP to have tests running (and passing) again [14:04] BLOCKED: nopes [14:04] NEXT: mandel [14:04] DONE: Increased test coverage of dbus module in linux and windows. Added networ manager implementaiton for windows. Made ipc use a random port and expose it over named pipes. [14:04] TODO: beg for reviews, finish ipc client code. [14:04] BLOCKED: reviews, pleeeease [14:04] alecu: please... [14:04] DONE: a branch to use libunity to show/update/hide progressbar and show/hide disconnection emblem, needs review, but fixed libunity not yet packaged (as of friday) | a branch to use desktopcouch to save hiscores in quickly pygame template: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-desktop-n-encouraging-game-development | DroidCouch OAuth untangling [14:04] TODO: back to DroidCouch [14:04] BLOCKED: fixed libunity not yet packaged [14:04] mandel: are those reviews I can help with? [14:05] ralsina: yes, they are simply more tests for the linux code, so everyone can help :) [14:05] mandel: I'll help [14:05] mandel: shoot the links [14:06] mandel: me too [14:06] ralsina: go! [14:06] DONE: bashed my head against rhythmbox and nautilus (but finally they are breaking) [14:06] TODO: actually fix 4 or 5 bugs, reviews, send the sprint documents [14:06] nessita: approved and added a small explanation of the reason why those methods were moved [14:06] DONE TOO ;-) wrote the sprint stuff [14:07] BLOCKED: no, but head hurts [14:07] ralsina: yey! so, sprint is closer? :-) [14:07] ralsina: too much thinking? [14:07] nessita: yes [14:07] nessita: both sprints [14:07] nessita: but the only one that's going to be in both sprints is me, I think [14:08] ralsina: makes sense [14:08] ralsina, nessita: here is one merge https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_events_signal_tests/+merge/50342 [14:08] ralsina: you'll enjoy your time with mandel ;-) (be prepared for tons of dirty stories) [14:08] Yes, my divorce will make lots of sense (I am apparently going to be away 3 of 7 weeks. [14:09] mandel: the branch has as a prerequisite the same branch... [14:09] plus one week of sprint in BA. [14:09] But we'll live. Anyway, eom? [14:09] ralsina: who needs wives? [14:09] nessita: he, wrong copy paste :P [14:09] nessita: husbands! [14:09] :-D [14:10] eom here [14:10] cool. [14:10] mandel: post all the branches you want reviewed, I will try to code for an hour or so, then do reviews. [14:10] nessita: is not the same, is a branch with a very similar name :) [14:10] ah! you're right [14:11] mandel: so, is https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_events_signal_tests/+merge/50342 the proper branch to review? [14:11] And BTW: this means today we are at the exact minumum required to get anything done, since one proposes a branch and the other two have to approve it ;-) [14:11] ralsina: it depends, I personally think we should have people from other teams doing reviews. But reviews policy is not yet stablished [14:12] nessita: and won't be for a month, I think [14:12] Also, it means we could speak spanish all day long [14:12] nessita: yes [14:13] de puta madre!! ahora a por la reconquista de las americas! [14:13] The only part of the proposed policy that I am already enforcing is "managers review everything they are asked to review" ;-) [14:13] * mandel goes to get his conquistador outfit [14:13] mandel: pero, pero ... aquí es verano! El traje de conquistador quema :-D [14:14] ralsina: I have to be a professional, if it has to be done, it has to be done right :) [14:14] and we are smelly anyways [14:15] mandel: como diría un USAense: "you looked like a 50s buick, and smelled like one, too!" [14:15] alecu: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/use-new-syncademon-get-udf-fict/+merge/50594? we're having a broken test suite in u1cop trunk [14:16] nessita, sure! [14:17] ok, I'm off to coding. [14:23] karni: hi [14:23] karni: if you have access to staging, you can test the size attribute fix [14:29] nessita, approved. [14:29] alecu: thanks! [14:39] mandel: this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_events_signal_tests/+merge/50342 is already approved [14:40] mandel: what other review you need? :-) [14:42] ralsina: I have some spare time while waiting for a review from aquarius. I'll install natty on my desktop box, if is ok with you [14:42] sure go ahead [14:43] ack [14:48] nessita: cool, thx, let me find the next one :) [14:48] mandel: right, send me the link, though I'll be installing natty right now [14:49] nessita: is that to explain recursion to your students… hehe what a terrible joke [14:50] nessita: there yo go: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_syndaemon_signal_tests/+merge/50345 [15:04] hey all, i'm getting the message "You have reached the download limit for this song, please purchase it again from the store" for some of my tracks - do i really have to? seems insane [15:06] rebooting for natty install! [15:09] stupid new guy question: am I supposed to buy the tickets for canonical events and get a refund, or how is it done? [15:11] ralsina: ubuntu events like UDS? [15:11] popey: right [15:11] ralsina: do you work for canonical? [15:11] popey: yeah [15:11] popey: but it's my first one [15:12] I'd ask in a non-public canonical irc channel then :) [15:12] popey: good idea === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:04] ralsina: ping [16:05] mandel: pong [16:05] mandel: while I have you here: yes, the proposed installer is not practical [16:06] the thing with the icons that get bigger at the bottom is a pain in the arse [16:06] ralsina: uh, one sec, and we talk about that [16:06] mandel: ok [16:06] ralsina: I'm not good at context switch :P [16:06] ralsina: here goes my question, in which machine is tarmac runnin for lp:ubuntuone-client? [16:07] ralsina: branches canot land due to a missing module https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_events_signal_tests/+merge/50342 [16:07] :( [16:07] mandel: dobey's [16:07] and of course, it's holiday in the US [16:07] ralsina: ok, then eod for me :P [16:07] mandel: ouch [16:07] ralsina: just joking [16:08] I can work, but a I cannot land anything, take a look at the merge proposal [16:08] mandel: sadly dobey won't be around until.... 14 UTC tomorrow [16:08] I have seen nessita run tarmac before, though [16:08] ralsina: si, una putada…. [16:08] mandel: I have a few rather serious problems in my plate, but I will [16:09] ralsina: well, I'll ask in #chicharra how to solve this [16:09] mandel: cool [16:09] ralsina: so, about the installer, tell me [16:09] I spent a couple of hours on sunday trying to make a mockup in designer [16:09] The buttons: piece of cake [16:10] The font for the labels is not doable because it's the ubuntu font, and the system will not have it installed [16:10] The progressbar is doable with some effort [16:11] The "thing with icons that get larger like OSX's dock". I can do it by using Webkit, or by bringing QML or QGraphicsView into the installer, but that's not really a good idea [16:11] ralsina, plus having the ubuntu font on a windows app would look way out of place... right? [16:11] So that should be replaced with something more reasonable. [16:11] alecu: yes [16:11] alecu: but well, that's branding, it can be defended. What I can't do is use a font that's not there :-) [16:11] ralsina, "thing with icons that get larger like OSX's dock" wtf? [16:12] ralsina: all that assuming we know how to do embed everything in an exe, right? [16:12] ralsina, what about including it in the installer? a few windows installer have a previous "unpack" stage where they "install" the installer in /tmp [16:12] (or \windows\temp or whatever) [16:13] alecu: but which type of installers, .exe or .msi [16:13] mandel: well, we can embed all the images in the exe, no problem [16:13] mandel, right .exe installers usually do that. [16:13] alecu: by the way can you give me a hand with the following error; https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_events_signal_tests/+merge/50342 [16:13] we could do one of those two-stage installers, where you get one, it downloads the bigger one. [16:14] hmm [16:14] ralsina: we have to be smart about this... [16:14] pyqt has support for embedding arbitrary things in the exe. So we can even put the whole msi there and unpack it. [16:14] mandel, what hand do you want? the left or the right one? [16:14] dobey: tarmac! mandel! ;-) [16:14] alecu: atm the right, is the broken one [16:15] :-) [16:15] ralsina: seriously. if tarmac is broken, and i'm away, send me a text message or something :) [16:15] dobey: tarmac for ubuntuone-client is in your machine, rigth? [16:15] yes [16:15] dobey: I tried calling you on your phone, I got a girl telling me something in german [16:15] dobey: I think it has a missing package or something whenstupidly wrong with my branch…. [16:16] dobey: this is the one https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_dbus_events_signal_tests/+merge/50342 [16:16] exceptions.ImportError: No module named indicate [16:16] ralsina: weird [16:17] yeah i see, installing now [16:17] dobey: my exact word [16:17] dobey: sweet thx! [16:17] ralsina: next time you get a german girl on the phone, fwd to me [16:17] mandel: I think she was a robot, sorry [16:18] ralsina: maybe you called germany [16:18] dobey: could be, I copy/pasted your phone from directory into skype [16:18] Meine Mutter ist ein Toaster [16:18] oh, skype [16:18] maybe it was an estonian girl [16:18] mandel, hahaahahah [16:19] mandel, your jokes are a lot better when there are no dirty references! [16:19] ah, skype probably didn't like the format or something [16:19] anyway, python-indicate is installed [16:20] alecu: hehe my jokes are good, the problem is that I just type the dirty ones :) [16:20] dobey: thx! [16:22] ralsina: so, we have to be smart of how to embed the installer, a 2 step process could be possible, get the at stuff, and execute it [16:32] alright, i'm back out :) [16:43] alecu: ping === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [16:43] mandel: yeah [16:44] mandel, pong [16:44] ralsina: we can try and write a poc for that, but for me, it will have to wait til the weekend [16:45] ralsina: in the mean time… let me know when you can review some branches (on linux) [16:45] mandel: yes, if we don't finish the program, what is it going to install? ;-) [16:45] mandel: in about 20 minutes [16:46] ralsina: hehe exactyly :) [16:46] ralsina, I have another lovely branch for you after you finish with mandel's: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/use-libunity/+merge/50632 [16:46] alecu: ok, how am I supposed to test that? [16:47] alecu: I'll exchange yours with mine :) [16:47] that wasy we do not need ralsina :) [16:47] ralsina, you are not running unity3d, right? [16:47] alecu: yes I am [16:47] ralsina, then we'll try to see if the unity updates from today allow you to run it [16:48] alecu: cool [16:48] ralsina, both my installations are botched, because I did a sudo make install from libunity :P [16:48] mandel, cool. What branch do you want me to review? [16:49] alecu: ha, so I have the only unity now? [16:49]