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MacSlow | hey everybody | 07:58 |
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didrocks | good morning | 08:03 |
apw | didrocks, when its a usablity change where something i used to do (pass mouse vagely through the ubuntu logo in an arc to the menu) no longer works and i get a jerky fady appeary dissappeary behaviour, i am going to assume its a bug not a new functionality, and where the resolution is something i have no knowledge of (make sure i touch the top pixel) ... i think i'd have wanted to be shouted at, not have to check the changelog | 08:51 |
apw | as you could see from my report here, it looked more like a bug than a feature | 08:52 |
didrocks | apw: just to highlight that everything is documented in the changelog, so if you find something weird that isn't there and that's not a design decision, better to reduce the noise, please :) | 08:52 |
didrocks | I'm not sure why launchpad didn't propose the duplicate on search, that's the issue IMHO | 08:53 |
didrocks | as the keywords in it seems to be reasonable | 08:53 |
popey | didrocks: what package implements the global menu at the top of the screen in unity-world? | 09:07 |
didrocks | popey: the rendering is done by unity itself | 09:07 |
popey | didrocks: so if i wanted to look at the code I am currently running which implements global menu, a simple "apt-get source unity" would be fine? | 09:08 |
didrocks | popey: yeah, it should do it ;) look at appmenu-gtk as well for the "other side" of the implementation | 09:08 |
popey | thanks | 09:08 |
* vish remembers popey's session a while ago, where he said he has contributed to only one line of code to Ubuntu.. looks like that is gonna change soon because of focus-follow-mouse.. ;) | 09:12 | |
popey | hah | 09:19 |
* apw idly wonders what focus-follow-mouse will do for me | 09:25 | |
kvalo | kamstrup: thanks for the review! soon I can write a book about all your tips ;) | 09:29 |
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kamstrup | kvalo: will I receieve accolades? | 09:45 |
kvalo | kamstrup: definitely :) | 09:46 |
didrocks | apw: on focus-follow-mouse: bug #674138 | 09:46 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 674138 in Unity ""Global" appmenu breaks sloppy focus" [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674138 | 09:46 |
apw | popey, so aer you actually working on fixing ffm ? /me is a keen ffm proponent for all the same reasons you put in your bug | 09:49 |
dbarth | rodrigo_, apinheiro, njpatel: ping | 09:59 |
apinheiro | dbarth, pong | 10:00 |
dbarth | good morning | 10:00 |
dbarth | this is the weekly call reminder | 10:00 |
apinheiro | dbarth, well, it seems that rodrigo_ and njpatel are not available | 10:07 |
njpatel | dbarth, hi | 10:08 |
dbarth | rodrigo_, apinheiro, njpatel: calling you on skype when you're there | 10:09 |
dbarth | i'm just finishing another call atm | 10:09 |
njpatel | okay, logging on | 10:10 |
rodrigo_ | dbarth, pong | 10:12 |
dbarth | ah cool | 10:13 |
dbarth | can you guys get started together and i'll join you in a minute | 10:13 |
rodrigo_ | skype? | 10:14 |
dbarth | can you invite me? | 10:17 |
dbarth | rodrigo_: we're trying to reach you | 10:18 |
dbarth | apinheiro: same here | 10:19 |
rodrigo_ | I'm available now | 10:19 |
apinheiro | Im here | 10:19 |
apinheiro | Im already connected | 10:19 |
dbarth | apinheiro: we can't reach you apparently | 10:19 |
apinheiro | to skype, but I didnt join any conference call | 10:19 |
apinheiro | hmmm | 10:19 |
apinheiro | igalia-corunha? | 10:19 |
ogra | didrocks, yo ... janimo has submitted a fix for the arm FTBFS to nux upstream, i guess someone needs to pull that in | 10:22 |
didrocks | ogra: yeah, I already pinged them, will be in next release if this can wait for 2 days :) | 10:22 |
ogra | hmm | 10:22 |
ogra | ok ... it breaks our image builds, but i guess we can wait another two days | 10:22 |
didrocks | ok, nice :) | 10:23 |
apinheiro | https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/Bug718910 | 10:23 |
apinheiro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/722666 | 10:29 |
dbarth | MacSlow: ping? can you see with apinheiro how this issue ^^ could be fixed | 10:32 |
dbarth | MacSlow: i'm with njpatel here and we agree this is an important priority; sorry for the potential priority inversion | 10:33 |
MacSlow | dbarth, ok | 10:33 |
apinheiro | MacSlow, ok thanks | 10:35 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, the fact that this is the case is that the thing visible isn't the one getting all the input-events | 10:35 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, so drawing happens in an xwindow-id different form the window receiving/handling the input-events | 10:36 |
apinheiro | MacSlow, well, but the fact is that the key press callback code is placed on the Launcher code | 10:37 |
apinheiro | but if I ask Nux object if it have the key focus | 10:37 |
apinheiro | the Launcher doesn't have it | 10:37 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, that makes sense | 10:38 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, the events get "routed" frim the XInputWindow to the Launcher itself | 10:38 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, what do you need? | 10:38 |
njpatel | MacSlow, but inside nux, on view has to have the focus, he needs that view to be the launcher | 10:38 |
njpatel | this is despite the xwindow stuff | 10:39 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, just want to be able to ask the launcher directly if it has the focus? | 10:39 |
apinheiro | well, is the Launcher the one managing the key events, so from a external point of view is like Launcher having the key focus | 10:39 |
dbarth | sorry | 10:39 |
apinheiro | the a11y support on unity ask ÍnputArea methods to know which object has the key support | 10:39 |
apinheiro | but I can't use then here | 10:39 |
apinheiro | as far as I understandand | 10:40 |
apinheiro | MacSlow, so yes, be able to ask the launcher if it has the focus | 10:40 |
apinheiro | and be notified when it receives/lose the focus | 10:40 |
njpatel | rodrigo_, sigc::signal<void, GVariant *> SyncGeometry; | 10:40 |
apinheiro | as I said, I was using some InputArea methods/signals to do that | 10:40 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, I'll work on something like this on a branch and ping you when I'm done... I guess this is blocking you atm? | 10:41 |
apinheiro | MacSlow, well, there are other task I can work on, there are plenty of work here ;) | 10:42 |
MacSlow | apinheiro, well according to dbarth this should be addressed now | 10:42 |
apinheiro | but just mean that the a11y support for the launcher would be incomplete | 10:42 |
apinheiro | well, yes, because right now the launcher is a priority | 10:42 |
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kvalo | damn, I think something is leaking memory and I need to reboot my laptop few times a day :/ | 11:50 |
kvalo | [18792.977936] Killed process 6686 (gltext) total-vm:3431100kB, anon-rss:3311560kB, file-rss:84kB | 11:54 |
kvalo | heh | 11:54 |
popey | apw: sorry, only just saw your message. | 12:06 |
popey | apw: I'm not actually a particularly good coder, but it frustrates me that I can't use ffm, and the only options open to me are "find a developer who is willing to fix the regression" or "learn vala". | 12:06 |
cando_ | kenvandine, got a minute? | 12:25 |
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kvalo | kamstrup: quite simple patch: https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/libconnman-control-technology/+merge/50750 | 14:04 |
kenvandine | tedg, does your good-defaults-are-well-good branch fix the crash aruiz had in lo-menubar? | 14:08 |
kenvandine | aruiz, lo-menubar is working for me now :) | 14:10 |
cando_ | kenvandine, sorry...can i disturb you a moment? | 14:11 |
kenvandine | sure, i saw your branhc | 14:11 |
kenvandine | branch | 14:11 |
kenvandine | haven't reviewed it yet | 14:11 |
cando_ | oh cool... | 14:12 |
aruiz | kenvandine, wee :-) | 14:12 |
aruiz | kenvandine, I added separator support today | 14:12 |
kenvandine | cool | 14:12 |
cando_ | kenvandine, so i'll wait for your review...thanks | 14:12 |
aruiz | kenvandine, it seems that listening to menu changes is going to be a total bitch | 14:12 |
* aruiz really wants to avoid polling | 14:12 | |
tedg | kenvandine, No it infact exasperates it. Though, I have another branch that fixes it :) | 14:13 |
kenvandine | ok :) | 14:14 |
kenvandine | think we can get a fix uploaded today? | 14:14 |
kenvandine | i would really like to get lo-menubar uploaded today so we can get it reviewed and NEW'd, etc | 14:14 |
kenvandine | and do the MIR | 14:14 |
kenvandine | before feature freeze | 14:14 |
kenvandine | aruiz, trunk right now "works" | 14:15 |
kenvandine | at least for the 2 minutes i played with it :) | 14:15 |
aruiz | kenvandine, :-) | 14:15 |
kenvandine | not for the no document case though, still get menus in the window | 14:15 |
kenvandine | great progress though :) | 14:16 |
aruiz | yeah, I need to figure that one out | 14:16 |
aruiz | that window is sort of a special case | 14:16 |
kenvandine | tedg, mind if i distro patch that particular bug so i am get moving on uploading lo-menubar in the current state? | 14:19 |
kenvandine | to get the ball rolling, you know that takes time | 14:19 |
tedg | kenvandine, Yup, that's fine with me. | 14:19 |
tedg | kenvandine, I've already got my own crazy packaging branch :) | 14:20 |
kenvandine | which branch should i merge? | 14:20 |
agateau | seb128: ping | 14:21 |
tedg | kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/dbusmenu/selective-properties I think should fix things. | 14:21 |
kenvandine | ok, thx | 14:22 |
agateau | seb128: tedg and I would need your opinion on some late dbusmenu landings | 14:22 |
seb128 | tedg, agateau: hey | 14:23 |
agateau | seb128: basically, dbusmenu and dbusmenu-qt implementations are not synced right now. I need to catch up with latest dbusmenu changes. | 14:23 |
agateau | seb128: I am not sure I can get this done before FF, but I would still like to get this fixed before next alpha | 14:24 |
agateau | seb128: do you think this kind of things can go in in time, without FFE? | 14:24 |
seb128 | agateau, next alpha is next week | 14:25 |
seb128 | agateau, when do you see it being fixed between the ff and alpha? | 14:25 |
kenvandine | hey seb128 | 14:25 |
seb128 | on friday? | 14:25 |
seb128 | hey kenvandine | 14:25 |
agateau | seb128: thursday would be better, friday upload is a big no-no | 14:25 |
seb128 | agateau, thursday is late | 14:28 |
seb128 | agateau, you will need a r-t exception to upload by then | 14:29 |
seb128 | it's probably fine for natty, not sure it will be on the alpha image though | 14:29 |
tedg | seb128, When are the final uploads for alpha? | 14:29 |
agateau | seb128: what is an r-t exception? | 14:29 |
kenvandine | release team | 14:29 |
agateau | k | 14:29 |
agateau | seb128: tedg: the other solution is to revert latest dbusmenu changes and put them back in after alpha | 14:30 |
agateau | that's probably less risky | 14:30 |
seb128 | no | 14:31 |
seb128 | tedg, there is no hard limit for alpha but realistically they will roll iso on thursday early | 14:32 |
agateau | seb128: what would be wrong with that? | 14:32 |
tedg | seb128, So Wed. end of day Europe time? | 14:33 |
tedg | (practically speaking) | 14:33 |
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tedg | seb128, ^ is that a good assessment? If agateau could do a release on Wed. could that get in the alpha? | 14:41 |
seb128 | urg | 14:41 |
andreasn | anyone have Unity and a recent version of Thunderbird running? | 14:41 |
* agateau wonders whether "urg" means "yes" or "no" | 14:42 | |
seb128 | tedg, sorry I'm tired, I meant tuesday | 14:42 |
seb128 | the alpha3 will be out on thursday | 14:42 |
seb128 | so you need upload by monday eod | 14:42 |
seb128 | or early on tuesday | 14:42 |
agateau | tuesday is today, monday is yesterday... seems inpractical | 14:43 |
seb128 | in any case please don't block libdbusmenu updates those need to land before the freeze | 14:43 |
tedg | agateau, Tuesday week | 14:43 |
andreasn | I need to know if clicking "Tools > Message Filters" while that window is already open will bring up that window or not | 14:43 |
seb128 | agateau, no, next week | 14:43 |
seb128 | the feature freeze is thursday this week, alpha freeze is on tuesday next week, alpha is thursday next week | 14:44 |
seb128 | if you land updates on monday you are ok | 14:44 |
agateau | seb128: ohh... I was asking whether it would be ok to upload on thursday *this* week | 14:44 |
seb128 | tuesday will depends at what hour it lands and it they do respins or not | 14:44 |
seb128 | agateau, you said you wouldn't get it done before ff which is thursday... | 14:44 |
seb128 | being confused now | 14:45 |
agateau | seb128: I messed up, I thought it was tomorrow (wednesday) | 14:45 |
seb128 | ok | 14:45 |
seb128 | so you have until end of week | 14:45 |
seb128 | works for you? | 14:45 |
agateau | seb128: should be enough yes | 14:45 |
agateau | seb128: so deadline is "package in main by monday", right? | 14:46 |
seb128 | well not really that hard but the safe line is yes | 14:46 |
seb128 | starting tuesday you count on delays on respins, etc | 14:46 |
seb128 | but it might still go in | 14:46 |
* agateau prefers aiming for the safe line | 14:46 | |
kenvandine | tedg, dbusmenu fix uploaded | 14:47 |
tedg | andreasn, Sorry, I don't have Thunderbird or Unity running :) | 14:47 |
agateau | seb128: thanks | 14:47 |
seb128 | agateau, you're welcome | 14:47 |
aruiz | kenvandine, that no_rpath thing... have you tested it? | 14:50 |
kenvandine | yes | 14:50 |
kenvandine | works | 14:50 |
aruiz | okay | 14:50 |
kenvandine | :) | 14:50 |
aruiz | kenvandine, that's supposed to be there to allow relocation, any reason to remove it? | 14:51 |
kenvandine | aruiz, think you can roll a new release in the current state? with my branch merged? | 14:51 |
kenvandine | well lintian complains | 14:51 |
kenvandine | not like anything else is going to use the shlib though | 14:51 |
kenvandine | so probably not harmful to have it | 14:52 |
kenvandine | but would rather keep the build clean for review of the package | 14:52 |
andreasn | tedg, that's ok. I'm running GNOME Shell and I got it to work there, so I wanted to confirm it's a Unity specific issue and not a bug in TB | 14:52 |
kenvandine | tedg, going to get your xorg issues sorted out in time for scale? | 15:05 |
kenvandine | massive downgrade in store i guess | 15:05 |
tedg | kenvandine, Yeah, I hope so... trying to get code and presentations done for SCALE first :-/ | 15:05 |
tedg | kenvandine, BTW, I think this is for you more than me: https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/dbusmenu/new-gtk3-depends/+merge/50696 | 15:05 |
kenvandine | yeah | 15:06 |
kenvandine | fun stuff i am sure ;) | 15:06 |
kenvandine | i'll look at it | 15:06 |
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njpatel | apinheiro, jaytaoko can help with the input stuff | 15:45 |
njpatel | apinheiro, reading through the emails, it seems the main thing we need right now is the launcher to emit the correct signals, right, so you can start/stop selection mode? | 15:45 |
jaytaoko | njpatel: chatting with apinheiro now... | 15:45 |
apinheiro | njpatel, well, and also a way to know if the launcher has the key focus on that moment | 15:46 |
njpatel | apinheiro, the panel is not the focus here because it obviously does it's thing in the service, and the connection between the launcher and panel through ubus would still cause a focus-out and focus-in in the panel menu, so it should just all work | 15:46 |
apinheiro | and when I say launcher | 15:46 |
apinheiro | I also include the quicklist and in a near future | 15:46 |
apinheiro | the dash | 15:46 |
njpatel | apinheiro, right, I'm pretty sue nux already knows these things so just needs to be made available | 15:46 |
bcurtiswx | U1 is spazzing connecting and unconnecting | 15:49 |
njpatel | yeah | 15:53 |
njpatel | bcurtiswx, u1sdtool --quit; killall notify-osd | 15:53 |
njpatel | that'll stop the spamming | 15:53 |
njpatel | ;) | 15:53 |
bcurtiswx | njpatel, lol ;) thx | 15:53 |
njpatel | (notify osd will restart the next message you get, don't worry ;) | 15:54 |
danyR | just a quick question: with which unity version is natty going to be released? 3.6 or 3.8? | 16:08 |
popey | apw: indeed, I don't even _want_ the fix proposed by pitti on the bug report. I actually want global menu _and_ ffm. | 16:10 |
apw | popey, any idea how to implement it, do it by how long you stay in a window or something | 16:11 |
apw | hoaving to stop in the window perhaps to get it | 16:11 |
popey | i thought a modifier key held down to lock the menu would do it | 16:12 |
popey | preferably one I can trigger with my left hand (right hand on mouse) | 16:12 |
popey | I'd rather not introduce artificial delays to my workflow (by stopping in a window to get the menu) | 16:13 |
popey | mind you it all seems a bit demented anyway. if my firefox is on my right hand screen and mouse is currently over terminal in left hand screen, and I want to open a new browser tab, I'd have to take an exceptionally circuitous route from left screen to right screen (where firefox is) then back to left screen (for the menu). | 16:14 |
jcastro | DBO: any pending merges? | 16:20 |
jcastro | I see a few that need fixing | 16:20 |
DBO | I'll take a look over reviews after the phone meeting :) | 16:21 |
jcastro | nod | 16:21 |
jcastro | DBO: today's status day so the more the merrier | 16:21 |
jcastro | though since some are needs fixing I will explain how the workflow works for people | 16:21 |
jcastro | cando_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/718185 | 16:29 |
jcastro | was this the one you were pinging about yesterday? (sorry I was on holiday) | 16:29 |
didrocks | jcastro: for last release, you can still look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-02-22 | 16:38 |
didrocks | + what is fix commited for the next release :) | 16:39 |
* jcastro nods | 16:40 | |
jcastro | \o/ | 16:40 |
alecu | Hi guys, do you know if a new version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 will be packaged soon? | 16:50 |
alecu | It looks like the issue in bug #709240 is fixed on libunity trunk (getting "TypeError: must be an interface" when using libunity from python) | 16:51 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 709240 in libunity "libunity support gobject-introspected languages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709240 | 16:51 |
cando_ | jcastro, yes | 17:02 |
cando_ | sorry if i've disturbed you... | 17:02 |
jfi | Hello, is 'unity_launcher_entry_set_count' supported by unity-2d-launcher? | 17:12 |
cando_ | jcastro, ping | 17:12 |
jcastro | hi | 17:12 |
cando_ | hi! yes the bug is that...and sorry if i've disturbed your holiday! | 17:13 |
Kaleo | jfi: yes it is (only in Natty) | 17:29 |
and471 | ronoc, does the bug I just filed in indicator-sound get the 'Most OCD Award' ? | 17:29 |
lamlex | and471, depends- how many times did you wash your hands while filing? | 17:30 |
jfi | Kaleo, thx for confirmation! | 17:31 |
and471 | lamlex, damn, now you've reminded me I'll have to wash them again... | 17:31 |
* and471 aplogises in advance for those who actually have OCD | 17:31 | |
* and471 apologises for spelling 'apologises' incorrectly | 17:31 | |
and471 | .. | 17:32 |
ronoc | DanRabbit1, hey have you seen this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/723254 | 17:32 |
ronoc | and471, ah I have had worse :) | 17:32 |
ronoc | DanRabbit_, , hey have you seen this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/723254 | 17:33 |
and471 | ronoc, yeah I suppose you have had mpt working with you... | 17:33 |
and471 | XD | 17:33 |
and471 | haha | 17:33 |
DanRabbit_ | ronoc: looking.. | 17:33 |
ronoc | and471, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/723278 | 17:35 |
and471 | ah good :) | 17:35 |
DanRabbit_ | ronoc: So is there just the two icons needed for no volume and high volume or is there the full set needed? | 17:36 |
ronoc | DanRabbit_, just two needed for the mic input slider . so in gnome currently we have audio-input-microphone-low,high etc | 17:37 |
ronoc | we need just audio-input-microphone-panel-zero and ...high | 17:38 |
ronoc | I think that is how it should be named, but I'm no icon king | 17:38 |
DanRabbit_ | ronoc: okay I can do that. should I just add the icons to the ubuntu mono set? | 17:38 |
ronoc | DanRabbit_, | 17:38 |
DanRabbit_ | ronoc: yea that sounds consistent with the current naming scheme | 17:38 |
ronoc | whoops | 17:38 |
ronoc | DanRabbit_, yep that sounds good, just talk with Otto, | 17:39 |
ronoc | nice one | 17:39 |
DanRabbit_ | ronoc: no problem, I'll send him a mail | 17:39 |
ronoc | DanRabbit_, excellent thanks a mill | 17:39 |
apinheiro | njpatel, ping | 17:51 |
njpatel | apinheiro, pong | 17:52 |
apinheiro | it is about what we talked in the morning about the branch review | 17:52 |
njpatel | yep | 17:52 |
apinheiro | specifically this one: | 17:52 |
apinheiro | https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/Bug718910/+merge/49963 | 17:52 |
apinheiro | njpatel, should I add you as reviewer? | 17:52 |
njpatel | oh, you need a review right | 17:52 |
njpatel | lamlex, review please asap ^ | 17:53 |
apinheiro | not sure how remove alex launi as reviewer | 17:53 |
apinheiro | ah, ok | 17:53 |
apinheiro | I thought that the conclusion was add you on the review | 17:53 |
lamlex | i will review right now | 17:53 |
njpatel | thanks dude | 17:53 |
apinheiro | lamlex, thanks | 17:55 |
apinheiro | btw, I should have commit grants, so you can just approve it, and I can make the merge | 17:56 |
lamlex | +1 looks good apinheiro | 17:56 |
apinheiro | lamlex, ok, I will do the merge then | 17:57 |
apinheiro | thanks | 17:57 |
kenvandine | tedg, can you update the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/dbusmenu/new-gtk3-depends/+merge/50696 | 18:44 |
kenvandine | i merged it into ~ubuntu-desktop branch | 18:44 |
kenvandine | but can't change the status | 18:44 |
tedg | kenvandine, It'll change automatically when I merge in the desktop branch. | 18:52 |
tedg | kenvandine, Let me do that. | 18:52 |
kenvandine | tedg, thx | 18:52 |
kamstrup | kenvandine: hey man - i'm tweaking the Dee overrides. The current Python integration is pretty darn awesome if I may say so myself: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/dee/trunk/view/head:/examples/pythontricks.py :-D | 19:12 |
kenvandine | kamstrup, awesome | 19:15 |
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sao | Amaranth: I'm using the daily packages from ppa:unity/daily and trying to run that unity version. Same issue with the black screen (seems that compiz is loaded but not the unity plugin) | 21:00 |
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