=== MindWarper_ is now known as MindWarper [07:58] hey everybody [08:03] good morning [08:51] didrocks, when its a usablity change where something i used to do (pass mouse vagely through the ubuntu logo in an arc to the menu) no longer works and i get a jerky fady appeary dissappeary behaviour, i am going to assume its a bug not a new functionality, and where the resolution is something i have no knowledge of (make sure i touch the top pixel) ... i think i'd have wanted to be shouted at, not have to check the changelog [08:52] as you could see from my report here, it looked more like a bug than a feature [08:52] apw: just to highlight that everything is documented in the changelog, so if you find something weird that isn't there and that's not a design decision, better to reduce the noise, please :) [08:53] I'm not sure why launchpad didn't propose the duplicate on search, that's the issue IMHO [08:53] as the keywords in it seems to be reasonable [09:07] didrocks: what package implements the global menu at the top of the screen in unity-world? [09:07] popey: the rendering is done by unity itself [09:08] didrocks: so if i wanted to look at the code I am currently running which implements global menu, a simple "apt-get source unity" would be fine? [09:08] popey: yeah, it should do it ;) look at appmenu-gtk as well for the "other side" of the implementation [09:08] thanks [09:12] * vish remembers popey's session a while ago, where he said he has contributed to only one line of code to Ubuntu.. looks like that is gonna change soon because of focus-follow-mouse.. ;) [09:19] hah [09:25] * apw idly wonders what focus-follow-mouse will do for me [09:29] kamstrup: thanks for the review! soon I can write a book about all your tips ;) === API is now known as Guest42549 === Guest42549 is now known as apinheiro [09:45] kvalo: will I receieve accolades? [09:46] kamstrup: definitely :) [09:46] apw: on focus-follow-mouse: bug #674138 [09:46] Launchpad bug 674138 in Unity ""Global" appmenu breaks sloppy focus" [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674138 [09:49] popey, so aer you actually working on fixing ffm ? /me is a keen ffm proponent for all the same reasons you put in your bug [09:59] rodrigo_, apinheiro, njpatel: ping [10:00] dbarth, pong [10:00] good morning [10:00] this is the weekly call reminder [10:07] dbarth, well, it seems that rodrigo_ and njpatel are not available [10:08] dbarth, hi [10:09] rodrigo_, apinheiro, njpatel: calling you on skype when you're there [10:09] i'm just finishing another call atm [10:10] okay, logging on [10:12] dbarth, pong [10:13] ah cool [10:13] can you guys get started together and i'll join you in a minute [10:14] skype? [10:17] can you invite me? [10:18] rodrigo_: we're trying to reach you [10:19] apinheiro: same here [10:19] I'm available now [10:19] Im here [10:19] Im already connected [10:19] apinheiro: we can't reach you apparently [10:19] to skype, but I didnt join any conference call [10:19] hmmm [10:19] igalia-corunha? [10:22] didrocks, yo ... janimo has submitted a fix for the arm FTBFS to nux upstream, i guess someone needs to pull that in [10:22] ogra: yeah, I already pinged them, will be in next release if this can wait for 2 days :) [10:22] hmm [10:22] ok ... it breaks our image builds, but i guess we can wait another two days [10:23] ok, nice :) [10:23] https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/Bug718910 [10:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/722666 [10:32] MacSlow: ping? can you see with apinheiro how this issue ^^ could be fixed [10:33] MacSlow: i'm with njpatel here and we agree this is an important priority; sorry for the potential priority inversion [10:33] dbarth, ok [10:35] MacSlow, ok thanks [10:35] apinheiro, the fact that this is the case is that the thing visible isn't the one getting all the input-events [10:36] apinheiro, so drawing happens in an xwindow-id different form the window receiving/handling the input-events [10:37] MacSlow, well, but the fact is that the key press callback code is placed on the Launcher code [10:37] but if I ask Nux object if it have the key focus [10:37] the Launcher doesn't have it [10:38] apinheiro, that makes sense [10:38] apinheiro, the events get "routed" frim the XInputWindow to the Launcher itself [10:38] apinheiro, what do you need? [10:38] MacSlow, but inside nux, on view has to have the focus, he needs that view to be the launcher [10:39] this is despite the xwindow stuff [10:39] apinheiro, just want to be able to ask the launcher directly if it has the focus? [10:39] well, is the Launcher the one managing the key events, so from a external point of view is like Launcher having the key focus [10:39] sorry [10:39] the a11y support on unity ask ÍnputArea methods to know which object has the key support [10:39] but I can't use then here [10:40] as far as I understandand [10:40] MacSlow, so yes, be able to ask the launcher if it has the focus [10:40] and be notified when it receives/lose the focus [10:40] rodrigo_, sigc::signal SyncGeometry; [10:40] as I said, I was using some InputArea methods/signals to do that [10:41] apinheiro, I'll work on something like this on a branch and ping you when I'm done... I guess this is blocking you atm? [10:42] MacSlow, well, there are other task I can work on, there are plenty of work here ;) [10:42] apinheiro, well according to dbarth this should be addressed now [10:42] but just mean that the a11y support for the launcher would be incomplete [10:42] well, yes, because right now the launcher is a priority === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:50] damn, I think something is leaking memory and I need to reboot my laptop few times a day :/ [11:54] [18792.977936] Killed process 6686 (gltext) total-vm:3431100kB, anon-rss:3311560kB, file-rss:84kB [11:54] heh [12:06] apw: sorry, only just saw your message. [12:06] apw: I'm not actually a particularly good coder, but it frustrates me that I can't use ffm, and the only options open to me are "find a developer who is willing to fix the regression" or "learn vala". [12:25] kenvandine, got a minute? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === Xigen_ is now known as JohnLea === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:04] kamstrup: quite simple patch: https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/libconnman-control-technology/+merge/50750 [14:08] tedg, does your good-defaults-are-well-good branch fix the crash aruiz had in lo-menubar? [14:10] aruiz, lo-menubar is working for me now :) [14:11] kenvandine, sorry...can i disturb you a moment? [14:11] sure, i saw your branhc [14:11] branch [14:11] haven't reviewed it yet [14:12] oh cool... [14:12] kenvandine, wee :-) [14:12] kenvandine, I added separator support today [14:12] cool [14:12] kenvandine, so i'll wait for your review...thanks [14:12] kenvandine, it seems that listening to menu changes is going to be a total bitch [14:12] * aruiz really wants to avoid polling [14:13] kenvandine, No it infact exasperates it. Though, I have another branch that fixes it :) [14:14] ok :) [14:14] think we can get a fix uploaded today? [14:14] i would really like to get lo-menubar uploaded today so we can get it reviewed and NEW'd, etc [14:14] and do the MIR [14:14] before feature freeze [14:15] aruiz, trunk right now "works" [14:15] at least for the 2 minutes i played with it :) [14:15] kenvandine, :-) [14:15] not for the no document case though, still get menus in the window [14:16] great progress though :) [14:16] yeah, I need to figure that one out [14:16] that window is sort of a special case [14:19] tedg, mind if i distro patch that particular bug so i am get moving on uploading lo-menubar in the current state? [14:19] to get the ball rolling, you know that takes time [14:19] kenvandine, Yup, that's fine with me. [14:20] kenvandine, I've already got my own crazy packaging branch :) [14:20] which branch should i merge? [14:21] seb128: ping [14:21] kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/dbusmenu/selective-properties I think should fix things. [14:22] ok, thx [14:22] seb128: tedg and I would need your opinion on some late dbusmenu landings [14:23] tedg, agateau: hey [14:23] seb128: basically, dbusmenu and dbusmenu-qt implementations are not synced right now. I need to catch up with latest dbusmenu changes. [14:24] seb128: I am not sure I can get this done before FF, but I would still like to get this fixed before next alpha [14:24] seb128: do you think this kind of things can go in in time, without FFE? [14:25] agateau, next alpha is next week [14:25] agateau, when do you see it being fixed between the ff and alpha? [14:25] hey seb128 [14:25] on friday? [14:25] hey kenvandine [14:25] seb128: thursday would be better, friday upload is a big no-no [14:28] agateau, thursday is late [14:29] agateau, you will need a r-t exception to upload by then [14:29] it's probably fine for natty, not sure it will be on the alpha image though [14:29] seb128, When are the final uploads for alpha? [14:29] seb128: what is an r-t exception? [14:29] release team [14:29] k [14:30] seb128: tedg: the other solution is to revert latest dbusmenu changes and put them back in after alpha [14:30] that's probably less risky [14:31] no [14:32] tedg, there is no hard limit for alpha but realistically they will roll iso on thursday early [14:32] seb128: what would be wrong with that? [14:33] seb128, So Wed. end of day Europe time? [14:33] (practically speaking) === Xigen is now known as JohnLea === apinheiro is now known as apinheiro_afk [14:41] seb128, ^ is that a good assessment? If agateau could do a release on Wed. could that get in the alpha? [14:41] urg [14:41] anyone have Unity and a recent version of Thunderbird running? [14:42] * agateau wonders whether "urg" means "yes" or "no" [14:42] tedg, sorry I'm tired, I meant tuesday [14:42] the alpha3 will be out on thursday [14:42] so you need upload by monday eod [14:42] or early on tuesday [14:43] tuesday is today, monday is yesterday... seems inpractical [14:43] in any case please don't block libdbusmenu updates those need to land before the freeze [14:43] agateau, Tuesday week [14:43] I need to know if clicking "Tools > Message Filters" while that window is already open will bring up that window or not [14:43] agateau, no, next week [14:44] the feature freeze is thursday this week, alpha freeze is on tuesday next week, alpha is thursday next week [14:44] if you land updates on monday you are ok [14:44] seb128: ohh... I was asking whether it would be ok to upload on thursday *this* week [14:44] tuesday will depends at what hour it lands and it they do respins or not [14:44] agateau, you said you wouldn't get it done before ff which is thursday... [14:45] being confused now [14:45] seb128: I messed up, I thought it was tomorrow (wednesday) [14:45] ok [14:45] so you have until end of week [14:45] works for you? [14:45] seb128: should be enough yes [14:46] seb128: so deadline is "package in main by monday", right? [14:46] well not really that hard but the safe line is yes [14:46] starting tuesday you count on delays on respins, etc [14:46] but it might still go in [14:46] * agateau prefers aiming for the safe line [14:47] tedg, dbusmenu fix uploaded [14:47] andreasn, Sorry, I don't have Thunderbird or Unity running :) [14:47] seb128: thanks [14:47] agateau, you're welcome [14:50] kenvandine, that no_rpath thing... have you tested it? [14:50] yes [14:50] works [14:50] okay [14:50] :) [14:51] kenvandine, that's supposed to be there to allow relocation, any reason to remove it? [14:51] aruiz, think you can roll a new release in the current state? with my branch merged? [14:51] well lintian complains [14:51] not like anything else is going to use the shlib though [14:52] so probably not harmful to have it [14:52] but would rather keep the build clean for review of the package [14:52] tedg, that's ok. I'm running GNOME Shell and I got it to work there, so I wanted to confirm it's a Unity specific issue and not a bug in TB [15:05] tedg, going to get your xorg issues sorted out in time for scale? [15:05] massive downgrade in store i guess [15:05] kenvandine, Yeah, I hope so... trying to get code and presentations done for SCALE first :-/ [15:05] kenvandine, BTW, I think this is for you more than me: https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/dbusmenu/new-gtk3-depends/+merge/50696 [15:06] yeah [15:06] fun stuff i am sure ;) [15:06] i'll look at it === apinheiro_afk is now known as apinheiro [15:45] apinheiro, jaytaoko can help with the input stuff [15:45] apinheiro, reading through the emails, it seems the main thing we need right now is the launcher to emit the correct signals, right, so you can start/stop selection mode? [15:45] njpatel: chatting with apinheiro now... [15:46] njpatel, well, and also a way to know if the launcher has the key focus on that moment [15:46] apinheiro, the panel is not the focus here because it obviously does it's thing in the service, and the connection between the launcher and panel through ubus would still cause a focus-out and focus-in in the panel menu, so it should just all work [15:46] and when I say launcher [15:46] I also include the quicklist and in a near future [15:46] the dash [15:46] apinheiro, right, I'm pretty sue nux already knows these things so just needs to be made available [15:49] U1 is spazzing connecting and unconnecting [15:53] yeah [15:53] bcurtiswx, u1sdtool --quit; killall notify-osd [15:53] that'll stop the spamming [15:53] ;) [15:53] njpatel, lol ;) thx [15:54] (notify osd will restart the next message you get, don't worry ;) [16:08] just a quick question: with which unity version is natty going to be released? 3.6 or 3.8? [16:10] apw: indeed, I don't even _want_ the fix proposed by pitti on the bug report. I actually want global menu _and_ ffm. [16:11] popey, any idea how to implement it, do it by how long you stay in a window or something [16:11] hoaving to stop in the window perhaps to get it [16:12] i thought a modifier key held down to lock the menu would do it [16:12] preferably one I can trigger with my left hand (right hand on mouse) [16:13] I'd rather not introduce artificial delays to my workflow (by stopping in a window to get the menu) [16:14] mind you it all seems a bit demented anyway. if my firefox is on my right hand screen and mouse is currently over terminal in left hand screen, and I want to open a new browser tab, I'd have to take an exceptionally circuitous route from left screen to right screen (where firefox is) then back to left screen (for the menu). [16:20] DBO: any pending merges? [16:20] I see a few that need fixing [16:21] I'll take a look over reviews after the phone meeting :) [16:21] nod [16:21] DBO: today's status day so the more the merrier [16:21] though since some are needs fixing I will explain how the workflow works for people [16:29] cando_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/718185 [16:29] was this the one you were pinging about yesterday? (sorry I was on holiday) [16:38] jcastro: for last release, you can still look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-02-22 [16:39] + what is fix commited for the next release :) [16:40] * jcastro nods [16:40] \o/ [16:50] Hi guys, do you know if a new version of gir1.2-unity-3.0 will be packaged soon? [16:51] It looks like the issue in bug #709240 is fixed on libunity trunk (getting "TypeError: must be an interface" when using libunity from python) [16:51] Launchpad bug 709240 in libunity "libunity support gobject-introspected languages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709240 [17:02] jcastro, yes [17:02] sorry if i've disturbed you... [17:12] Hello, is 'unity_launcher_entry_set_count' supported by unity-2d-launcher? [17:12] jcastro, ping [17:12] hi [17:13] hi! yes the bug is that...and sorry if i've disturbed your holiday! [17:29] jfi: yes it is (only in Natty) [17:29] ronoc, does the bug I just filed in indicator-sound get the 'Most OCD Award' ? [17:30] and471, depends- how many times did you wash your hands while filing? [17:31] Kaleo, thx for confirmation! [17:31] lamlex, damn, now you've reminded me I'll have to wash them again... [17:31] * and471 aplogises in advance for those who actually have OCD [17:31] * and471 apologises for spelling 'apologises' incorrectly [17:32] .. [17:32] DanRabbit1, hey have you seen this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/723254 [17:32] and471, ah I have had worse :) [17:33] DanRabbit_, , hey have you seen this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/723254 [17:33] ronoc, yeah I suppose you have had mpt working with you... [17:33] XD [17:33] haha [17:33] ronoc: looking.. [17:35] and471, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/723278 [17:35] ah good :) [17:36] ronoc: So is there just the two icons needed for no volume and high volume or is there the full set needed? [17:37] DanRabbit_, just two needed for the mic input slider . so in gnome currently we have audio-input-microphone-low,high etc [17:38] we need just audio-input-microphone-panel-zero and ...high [17:38] I think that is how it should be named, but I'm no icon king [17:38] ronoc: okay I can do that. should I just add the icons to the ubuntu mono set? [17:38] DanRabbit_, [17:38] ronoc: yea that sounds consistent with the current naming scheme [17:38] whoops [17:39] DanRabbit_, yep that sounds good, just talk with Otto, [17:39] nice one [17:39] ronoc: no problem, I'll send him a mail [17:39] DanRabbit_, excellent thanks a mill [17:51] njpatel, ping [17:52] apinheiro, pong [17:52] it is about what we talked in the morning about the branch review [17:52] yep [17:52] specifically this one: [17:52] https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/Bug718910/+merge/49963 [17:52] njpatel, should I add you as reviewer? [17:52] oh, you need a review right [17:53] lamlex, review please asap ^ [17:53] not sure how remove alex launi as reviewer [17:53] ah, ok [17:53] I thought that the conclusion was add you on the review [17:53] i will review right now [17:53] thanks dude [17:55] lamlex, thanks [17:56] btw, I should have commit grants, so you can just approve it, and I can make the merge [17:56] +1 looks good apinheiro [17:57] lamlex, ok, I will do the merge then [17:57] thanks [18:44] tedg, can you update the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/dbusmenu/new-gtk3-depends/+merge/50696 [18:44] i merged it into ~ubuntu-desktop branch [18:44] but can't change the status [18:52] kenvandine, It'll change automatically when I merge in the desktop branch. [18:52] kenvandine, Let me do that. [18:52] tedg, thx [19:12] kenvandine: hey man - i'm tweaking the Dee overrides. The current Python integration is pretty darn awesome if I may say so myself: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/dee/trunk/view/head:/examples/pythontricks.py :-D [19:15] kamstrup, awesome === ogra is now known as Guest4712 === Guest4712 is now known as ogra_ [21:00] Amaranth: I'm using the daily packages from ppa:unity/daily and trying to run that unity version. Same issue with the black screen (seems that compiz is loaded but not the unity plugin) === Artir_ is now known as Artir === Artir_ is now known as Arti === Arti is now known as Artir === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away