[04:29] <kbmonkey> morning all
[04:51] <Kilos> morning superfly and everyone else
[04:51] <superfly> morning kbmonkey and Kilos
[04:52] <Kilos> i store my archives on my external as packs for maverick and Packs for karmic. now i copied the wrong one to this karmic
[04:53] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey 
[04:53] <kbmonkey> morning guys :)
[04:54] <kbmonkey> I got up early to fix this network, its giving me a hard time :)
[04:54] <kbmonkey> networking not my strong pt 
[04:58] <Kilos> now i am sukkeling to remove them and get the right ones
[04:58] <superfly> kbmonkey: mine neither, but what's the problem?
[04:59] <Kilos> i tried sudo aptitude remove /var/cache/apt/archives with and without the last / and /*
[04:59] <kbmonkey> well superfly, a few things: ping between two ubuntu pc's by hostname (can ping by IP tho)
[05:00] <superfly> Kilos: aptitude deals with packages not files
[05:00] <Kilos> i tried apt-get as well superfly 
[05:00] <kbmonkey> and setup samba shares for the maties who visit. but let me tackle one at a time. just trying to get wins resolution working
[05:01] <superfly> kbmonkey: hrm, I've never really been able to do that on my network, but it wasn't a huge problem for me... Windows does it because it wraps TCP/IP around NetBEUI
[05:01] <Kilos> how can i get rid of the maverick ones only
[05:01] <Kilos> or even all of them and then replace with the right ones
[05:01] <superfly> Kilos: how do you delete all the files in a directory?
[05:01] <Kilos> will that --delete work here
[05:02] <Kilos> i dunno superfly 
[05:02] <Kilos> i thought the /* would do it
[05:02] <superfly> Kilos: how do you normally delete a file?
[05:02] <Kilos> right click delete
[05:03] <Kilos> i normally sudo apt-get remove
[05:03] <Kilos> it doesnt want to
[05:03] <superfly> Kilos: a file, not a package - there's a difference
[05:04] <superfly> Kilos: what's the difference between Nautilus (your file manager) and Synaptic?
[05:04] <Kilos> i think nautilus opens things and synaptic installs and updates them
[05:05] <Kilos> things/packages
[05:05] <Kilos> i tried sudo gedit as well
[05:05] <Kilos> but got a no entry sign
[05:06] <superfly> Kilos: so when you want to delete a file in your home directory, what do you do?
[05:06] <Kilos> sudo gedit /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:07] <Kilos> in home i normally just use right click delete
[05:07] <Kilos> or use cli and give the path
[05:08] <kbmonkey> Kilos: you copied the archives into /var/cache/apt/archives, for the wrong release?
[05:08] <Kilos> but now i need to delete everything in archives
[05:08] <Kilos> yip
[05:08] <Kilos> no ,
[05:08] <kbmonkey> yes you may need to remove them all, and re-copy the right ones back
[05:09] <Kilos> must i try with the ,
[05:09] <Kilos> i only know the dos for all files and folders
[05:09] <Kilos> *.*
[05:10] <kbmonkey> from the cli, you use rm
[05:10] <kbmonkey> but for that location you must use sudo with rm
[05:10] <Kilos> ok so
[05:10] <Kilos> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[05:11] <kbmonkey> correct, that will remove all files, but not the /archives/  dir
[05:11] <kbmonkey> all files in /archives/ of course
[05:12] <Kilos> ok i try that ty
[05:13] <kbmonkey> note
[05:13] <superfly> Kilos: using aptitude to delete files is like trying to use Synaptic to remove a .txt file from your home directory
[05:13] <kbmonkey> that there are subdirectories, and it will probably error on those
[05:13] <Kilos> ah stupid me
[05:13] <Kilos> yes it says partial is a directory
[05:14] <kbmonkey> or error when it hits those subdirs at least, to remove everything, you must use rm -rf (recursive, and force even if subdirs contain files) -- be Careful with this command :)
[05:14] <Kilos> ok i try that
[05:15] <Kilos> is the -rf after rm
[05:16] <Kilos> like sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:16] <kbmonkey> yes, -rf are arguments to 'rm'
[05:16] <Kilos> with or without the *
[05:16] <kbmonkey> actually it would work without the f too, 
[05:16] <kbmonkey> use the /*
[05:17] <Kilos> i need to find a book on these commands and arguments etc
[05:17] <kbmonkey> because you want to keep the /archive dir, otherwise it will remove /archives as well
[05:17] <Kilos> ok i try ty
[05:18] <kbmonkey> man rm is all the book you need :)
[05:22] <Kilos> ty. it rm ed the dir archives as well but i did mkdir and got an empty one there
[05:22] <Kilos> will cp from external again
[05:23] <Kilos> ty guys
[05:33] <kbmonkey> thats strange, i did a test in /tmp and it shouldve kept it.
[05:34] <Kilos> not serious kbmonkey  my pc does funny thjings
[05:34] <Kilos> things
[05:34] <kbmonkey> okay well I checked for you and seems like the default permissions are fine for archives :)
[05:34] <Kilos> sometimes all the desktop icons disappear
[05:35] <kbmonkey> yes my conky does that too, so I dont have any icons anymore
[05:35] <Kilos> and apps close on their own
[05:35] <Kilos> hehe
[05:35] <kbmonkey> oh... umm
[05:35] <kbmonkey> your pc sounds self aware
[05:35] <Kilos> even xchat just closes
[05:35] <kbmonkey> thats not good
[05:35] <Kilos> but not here on the P3 with a 6g drive
[05:36] <kbmonkey> oh oops I cant be late, cheers laters!
[05:36] <Kilos> this is my safety net
[05:36] <Kilos> cheers
[05:38] <nlsthzn> morning all
[05:38] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[05:39] <nlsthzn> Kilos: missed you at trible council last night ;)
[05:39] <Kilos> aw
[05:39] <Kilos> sorry i forgot and hit the hay
[05:40] <nlsthzn> np... it was long on nothing much happening :p
[05:41] <Kilos> i still want to get to one and ask if there is anyone with the necessary skills to write something for ubuntu to do a mbr repair
[05:42] <Kilos> same as in xp you go to recovery and tell it fixmbr and fixboot
[05:42] <Kilos> but then it only takes xp after that and wont take ubuntu
[05:43] <nlsthzn> Sneaky MS
[05:43] <Kilos> yeah
[05:43] <Kilos> there must be one of the guys that can do it better
[05:45] <nlsthzn> have you tried the forums?
[05:46] <Kilos> i hjave been very busy just trying to get a styable mbr on 2 drives for over 2 weeks
[05:46] <Kilos> but will look into that as wewll
[05:46] <Kilos> well
[05:47] <Kilos> lotsa peeps throw away drives because of faulty mbr's
[05:47] <nlsthzn> that sounds expensive
[05:47] <Kilos> thats fine if you can afford a new one
[05:48] <Kilos> there is lots of stuff online about mbr probs
[05:48] <nlsthzn> but you could have had two then :p
[05:48] <Kilos> but no linux tool specifically for repairing it
[05:48] <Kilos> yes i agree
[05:49] <nlsthzn> strange that there isn't... but can't you just re-install what is needed on the mbr?
[05:49] <Kilos> yes but mainly for ms
[05:50] <Kilos> there must be a linux only solution
[05:50] <Kilos> would be better if it was an ubuntu solution
[05:54] <nlsthzn> true
[07:16] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:16]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:23]  * nlsthzn goes to fix himself a spot of tea ;)
[07:25] <Kilos> hehe
[07:25] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:25] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[07:25] <Kilos> i gotta beer mug full of tea but cybercoffee is lekker too
[08:50] <Kilos> lo amanica 
[08:50] <amanica> hi
[08:58] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for lunch
[08:58] <Maaz> Hmm Kilos . Methinks Kentucky and coleslaw would go down well
[09:29] <Kilos> hi Owk 
[09:29] <Kilos> hehe
[09:38] <Owk> :)
[16:37] <Esquire> Hi
[16:38]  * nlsthzn waves at Esquire
[16:39] <Esquire> nlsthzn :)
[16:41] <Esquire> Maaz: coffee on
[16:41]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:41] <Esquire> Maaz: with sugar, please
[16:41] <Maaz> Esquire: What?
[16:41] <Esquire> Maaz: with sugar
[16:41] <Maaz> Help yourself outa the sugar pot
[16:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Esquire!
[17:50] <Chat7935> sup
[17:51] <Chat7935> hunnies around gauteng in here? 
[17:52] <drubin> Chat7935: this isn't that type of chnanle
[17:52] <drubin> channel*
[17:53] <Chat7935> hello? anybody in ere? 
[18:17] <Morganvd> how stupid can people be
[18:22] <superfly> Morganvd: more than likely a bot
[18:39] <Esquire> whois bnezya
[18:40] <Esquire> wow my first day back and I forget a / 
[20:41] <nlsthzn> good night all
[21:56] <afrodeity> C64