[04:29] morning all [04:51] morning superfly and everyone else [04:51] morning kbmonkey and Kilos [04:52] i store my archives on my external as packs for maverick and Packs for karmic. now i copied the wrong one to this karmic [04:53] hiya kbmonkey [04:53] morning guys :) [04:54] I got up early to fix this network, its giving me a hard time :) [04:54] networking not my strong pt [04:58] now i am sukkeling to remove them and get the right ones [04:58] kbmonkey: mine neither, but what's the problem? [04:59] i tried sudo aptitude remove /var/cache/apt/archives with and without the last / and /* [04:59] well superfly, a few things: ping between two ubuntu pc's by hostname (can ping by IP tho) [05:00] Kilos: aptitude deals with packages not files [05:00] i tried apt-get as well superfly [05:00] and setup samba shares for the maties who visit. but let me tackle one at a time. just trying to get wins resolution working [05:01] kbmonkey: hrm, I've never really been able to do that on my network, but it wasn't a huge problem for me... Windows does it because it wraps TCP/IP around NetBEUI [05:01] how can i get rid of the maverick ones only [05:01] or even all of them and then replace with the right ones [05:01] Kilos: how do you delete all the files in a directory? [05:01] will that --delete work here [05:02] i dunno superfly [05:02] i thought the /* would do it [05:02] Kilos: how do you normally delete a file? [05:02] right click delete [05:03] i normally sudo apt-get remove [05:03] it doesnt want to [05:03] Kilos: a file, not a package - there's a difference [05:04] Kilos: what's the difference between Nautilus (your file manager) and Synaptic? [05:04] i think nautilus opens things and synaptic installs and updates them [05:05] things/packages [05:05] i tried sudo gedit as well [05:05] but got a no entry sign [05:06] Kilos: so when you want to delete a file in your home directory, what do you do? [05:06] sudo gedit /var/cache/apt/archives [05:07] in home i normally just use right click delete [05:07] or use cli and give the path [05:08] Kilos: you copied the archives into /var/cache/apt/archives, for the wrong release? [05:08] but now i need to delete everything in archives [05:08] yip [05:08] no , [05:08] yes you may need to remove them all, and re-copy the right ones back [05:09] must i try with the , [05:09] i only know the dos for all files and folders [05:09] *.* [05:10] from the cli, you use rm [05:10] but for that location you must use sudo with rm [05:10] ok so [05:10] sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/* [05:11] correct, that will remove all files, but not the /archives/ dir [05:11] all files in /archives/ of course [05:12] ok i try that ty [05:13] note [05:13] Kilos: using aptitude to delete files is like trying to use Synaptic to remove a .txt file from your home directory [05:13] that there are subdirectories, and it will probably error on those [05:13] ah stupid me [05:13] yes it says partial is a directory [05:14] or error when it hits those subdirs at least, to remove everything, you must use rm -rf (recursive, and force even if subdirs contain files) -- be Careful with this command :) [05:14] ok i try that [05:15] is the -rf after rm [05:16] like sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/ [05:16] yes, -rf are arguments to 'rm' [05:16] with or without the * [05:16] actually it would work without the f too, [05:16] use the /* [05:17] i need to find a book on these commands and arguments etc [05:17] because you want to keep the /archive dir, otherwise it will remove /archives as well [05:17] ok i try ty [05:18] man rm is all the book you need :) [05:22] ty. it rm ed the dir archives as well but i did mkdir and got an empty one there [05:22] will cp from external again [05:23] ty guys [05:33] thats strange, i did a test in /tmp and it shouldve kept it. [05:34] not serious kbmonkey my pc does funny thjings [05:34] things [05:34] okay well I checked for you and seems like the default permissions are fine for archives :) [05:34] sometimes all the desktop icons disappear [05:35] yes my conky does that too, so I dont have any icons anymore [05:35] and apps close on their own [05:35] hehe [05:35] oh... umm [05:35] your pc sounds self aware [05:35] even xchat just closes [05:35] thats not good [05:35] but not here on the P3 with a 6g drive [05:36] oh oops I cant be late, cheers laters! [05:36] this is my safety net [05:36] cheers [05:38] morning all [05:38] hi nlsthzn [05:39] Kilos: missed you at trible council last night ;) [05:39] aw [05:39] sorry i forgot and hit the hay [05:40] np... it was long on nothing much happening :p [05:41] i still want to get to one and ask if there is anyone with the necessary skills to write something for ubuntu to do a mbr repair [05:42] same as in xp you go to recovery and tell it fixmbr and fixboot [05:42] but then it only takes xp after that and wont take ubuntu [05:43] Sneaky MS [05:43] yeah [05:43] there must be one of the guys that can do it better [05:45] have you tried the forums? [05:46] i hjave been very busy just trying to get a styable mbr on 2 drives for over 2 weeks [05:46] but will look into that as wewll [05:46] well [05:47] lotsa peeps throw away drives because of faulty mbr's [05:47] that sounds expensive [05:47] thats fine if you can afford a new one [05:48] there is lots of stuff online about mbr probs [05:48] but you could have had two then :p [05:48] but no linux tool specifically for repairing it [05:48] yes i agree [05:49] strange that there isn't... but can't you just re-install what is needed on the mbr? [05:49] yes but mainly for ms [05:50] there must be a linux only solution [05:50] would be better if it was an ubuntu solution [05:54] true [07:16] Maaz, coffee on [07:16] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:20] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:23] * nlsthzn goes to fix himself a spot of tea ;) [07:25] hehe [07:25] Maaz, ty [07:25] You're Welcome I'm sure [07:25] i gotta beer mug full of tea but cybercoffee is lekker too [08:50] lo amanica [08:50] hi [08:58] Maaz, whats for lunch [08:58] Hmm Kilos . Methinks Kentucky and coleslaw would go down well === Owkkuri is now known as Owk [09:29] hi Owk [09:29] hehe [09:38] :) [16:37] Hi [16:38] * nlsthzn waves at Esquire [16:39] nlsthzn :) [16:41] Maaz: coffee on [16:41] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [16:41] Maaz: with sugar, please [16:41] Esquire: What? [16:41] Maaz: with sugar [16:41] Help yourself outa the sugar pot [16:45] Coffee's ready for Esquire! [17:50] sup [17:51] hunnies around gauteng in here? [17:52] Chat7935: this isn't that type of chnanle [17:52] channel* [17:53] hello? anybody in ere? [18:17] how stupid can people be [18:22] Morganvd: more than likely a bot [18:39] whois bnezya [18:40] wow my first day back and I forget a / === Owk is now known as Owkkuri [20:41] good night all [21:56] C64