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| plain-user | Hello all! | 04:44 |
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| plain-user | Can anyone tell if there is some analogs of guitar pro, transcribe and guitar rig in ubuntustudio, or where can i read about the packages that are included in the distro? | 04:46 |
| Technicus | Hello . . . does Ubuntu Studio have a seperate repository? | 04:49 |
| holstein | plain-user: hey | 04:53 |
| holstein | what functionality are you looking for? | 04:53 |
| holstein | Technicus: the ubuntustudio metapackages are in the main buntu repos | 04:53 |
| holstein | theres not really an official seperate ubuntustudio repo | 04:53 |
| holstein | plenty of PPA's | 04:54 |
| holstein | community PPA's | 04:54 |
| plain-user | holstein: 1) work with guitar pro format and midi files. 2) work with audio formats in a fashion that transcribe! does: play slowly, shift pitch, etc. 3) play electric guitar/or mike up the cabinet and record into pc through my m-audio card. that's pretty much it. | 05:03 |
| holstein | im not sure what guitar pro is | 05:03 |
| holstein | you can check winehq though | 05:04 |
| holstein | see about running it in wine | 05:04 |
| plain-user | holstein: midi based guitar tab editor software. | 05:04 |
| holstein | plain-user: check out #opensourcemusicians | 05:04 |
| holstein | theres tuxguitar | 05:04 |
| holstein | lots of other stuff | 05:04 |
| holstein | i dont do any of that | 05:04 |
| holstein | and havent really explored them | 05:04 |
| plain-user | holstein: i'm doing that in my current installation in another distro, i just thought ubuntustudio would be like everything at once and everything handy - isn't it the idea of it? instead of having lots of configs of this and taht through emulators | 05:05 |
| holstein | but, i see folk discussing them occasionally in that channel | 05:05 |
| plain-user | thank you, i will visit that channel. | 05:05 |
| holstein | plain-user: sure | 05:05 |
| holstein | you should ask whoever makes guitar pro to support linux | 05:05 |
| holstein | and im sure ubuntustudio and other distros will be happ to include it | 05:05 |
| plain-user | holstein: they do, but for a fee)) | 05:06 |
| holstein | if its something a lot of users would like | 05:06 |
| holstein | plain-user: theres a linux version? | 05:06 |
| plain-user | they have support but not oss | 05:06 |
| holstein | interesting | 05:06 |
| holstein | im sure there is some grey area then | 05:07 |
| holstein | that will prevent its inclusion by default | 05:07 |
| holstein | but, feel free and join #ubuntustudio-devel | 05:07 |
| holstein | and bring it up | 05:07 |
| plain-user | yep, you download a deb package, buy the activation code and play. but that's not good enough - has to be free, so that people can stuff it up with random skins )) | 05:07 |
| holstein | plain-user: if it can be in the software store | 05:08 |
| holstein | the ubuntu software store | 05:08 |
| holstein | i would think that would be a step in the right direction | 05:08 |
| plain-user | holstein: what about other 2 functions - recording live sound and posibly putting on a vst plugin on top of that signal? | 05:09 |
| holstein | sure | 05:09 |
| holstein | rakkarack too | 05:09 |
| holstein | guitarix | 05:09 |
| plain-user | thank you | 05:10 |
| holstein | JACK is what you will want to read about | 05:10 |
| holstein | and learn | 05:10 |
| holstein | after you get JACK running stable | 05:10 |
| holstein | most other things are much easier | 05:10 |
| plain-user | ok, thanks for the hint, i go and rtm. =) | 05:11 |
| holstein | plain-user: we'll help you get it started sometime too :) | 05:11 |
| holstein | plain-user: does guitar pro have jack support? | 05:13 |
| plain-user | not sure | 05:15 |
| holstein | well, tuxguitar does | 05:15 |
| plain-user | what about watching SAT TV - is that considered as multimedia too? | 05:16 |
| plain-user | obviously, running the dish trhought the card and the pc... | 05:17 |
| holstein | satelite? | 05:17 |
| plain-user | yes | 05:17 |
| holstein | for the most part | 05:17 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio is about creating media | 05:17 |
| holstein | i would look at mythbuntu for what you are talking about | 05:18 |
| plain-user | so it must have good suport for a variety of weird hardware internals that are aimed at specific task, right? | 05:18 |
| holstein | it = ? | 05:19 |
| plain-user | ubuntustudio* | 05:20 |
| plain-user | myth thing is probably the right appliance, thanks again for the hint | 05:20 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio = ubuntu | 05:20 |
| holstein | mythbuntu = all of that to | 05:21 |
| holstein | its all the same repos | 05:21 |
| holstein | same kernels too usually | 05:21 |
| holstein | for the most part | 05:21 |
| holstein | its more about the vendors who make the hardware | 05:21 |
| holstein | and those cable cards are tricky i hear | 05:21 |
| plain-user | =\ | 05:22 |
| plain-user | ok, well, i go and explore some of this new info you gave me. ! | 05:22 |
| holstein | sure | 05:22 |
| Stryker | any1 know how to install 10.10 from usb? the installer tells me it is unable to mount the disk, which doesn't exist, as i am using USB | 06:08 |
| holstein | Stryker: hey | 06:08 |
| holstein | the easy way to do that is to just get the vanilla buntu live disc and check out | 06:09 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 06:09 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 06:09 |
| holstein | let me find a link though... | 06:09 |
| Stryker | what does it do | 06:09 |
| holstein | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/697774 | 06:10 |
| Stryker | sounds delicious | 06:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 697774 in Ubuntu Studio "cant install ubuntustudio from USB stick" [Undecided,New] | 06:10 |
| holstein | Stryker: add yourself to that bug if you dont mind | 06:10 |
| Stryker | k | 06:10 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller | 06:10 |
| holstein | thats the link that talks about how to make the ubuntustudio installer disc work | 06:11 |
| holstein | with unetbootin | 06:11 |
| holstein | still, easier to just to vanilla | 06:11 |
| holstein | and add what you want | 06:11 |
| holstein | i usually install ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | 06:12 |
| holstein | Stryker: im heading out | 06:12 |
| Stryker | what is vanilla | 06:12 |
| holstein | vanilla = just plain old ubuntu | 06:12 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio is ubuntu | 06:12 |
| Stryker | without all the bulk? | 06:12 |
| holstein | just with some packages added | 06:12 |
| holstein | and some taken out | 06:12 |
| holstein | and customized | 06:12 |
| Stryker | how can i get all that is in ubuntu studio? | 06:13 |
| holstein | Stryker: its all in the repos | 06:13 |
| Stryker | what package(s) | 06:13 |
| holstein | you just add the metapackages | 06:13 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins are the ones i use | 06:14 |
| holstein | mostly only those | 06:14 |
| holstein | you dont have to do it that way though | 06:14 |
| holstein | you can just add the packages you want | 06:14 |
| Stryker | okay, i don't care about video, is that all i need to get all the audio stuff | 06:14 |
| holstein | pretty much | 06:14 |
| Stryker | thks holstein | 06:14 |
| holstein | Stryker: im heading out for the nite | 06:14 |
| holstein | check out | 06:14 |
| holstein | #opensourcemusicians | 06:14 |
| holstein | if you need more info tonite | 06:15 |
| holstein | Stryker: enjoy :) | 06:15 |
| Stryker | okay, thx | 06:16 |
| plain-user | yes, you were right, holstein, i need some help getting it started ) | 10:51 |
| Strayfolk | hello! | 12:01 |
| Strayfolk | I'm on kernel 2.6.31-11-rt and I'd like help running the rtirq script | 12:02 |
| ScottL | Strayfolk, ailo has expereience with the rtirq script, maybe he can help you | 12:26 |
| Strayfolk | nice... | 12:28 |
| ailo | ScottL: I don't need help with it. Just pointed out, it isn't uninstalling. | 12:28 |
| ailo | When you do apt-get remove rtirq-init it isn't removed | 12:28 |
| ScottL | ailo, Strayfolk asked for help with rtirq script | 12:28 |
| ailo | Oh, sorry | 12:28 |
| ScottL | :) | 12:29 |
| ailo | Strayfolk, what's up? | 12:29 |
| Strayfolk | yes, I downloaded the .sh from http://www.rncbc.org/jack/ | 12:29 |
| Strayfolk | can't run it... | 12:29 |
| ailo | What system are you on? | 12:29 |
| ailo | The rtirq script is a startup job that should be run at bootup. Not as a user. | 12:30 |
| Strayfolk | I'm on ubuntu studio 10.04 64 bit | 12:30 |
| Strayfolk | trying out the 2.6.31-11-rt for the first time | 12:30 |
| Strayfolk | sony vaio f12 + edirol fa66 | 12:31 |
| ailo | Strayfolk: You have rtirq in the repo. Just install the package rtirq-init | 12:31 |
| Strayfolk | I've done that | 12:31 |
| Strayfolk | should I be set? | 12:31 |
| ailo | It's automatic, so no need to tune it. Are you using firewire? | 12:32 |
| Strayfolk | what if I've been fiddling with the /etc/default/rtirq manually? | 12:32 |
| Strayfolk | I am. | 12:32 |
| ailo | But is Lucid running the juju stack? | 12:32 |
| Strayfolk | ohci1394 | 12:32 |
| ailo | What is it you want to adjust in the rtirq? | 12:33 |
| Strayfolk | I want to make the magic happen :) | 12:33 |
| ailo | It's already set to do that. No need to adjust it | 12:33 |
| ailo | The script in /etc/init.d/rtirq will detect your sound devices and add priority to them | 12:34 |
| Strayfolk | ok | 12:34 |
| ailo | I'm not sure if you need to have firewire plugged in during startup or not, though. | 12:34 |
| ailo | Haven't investigated. I use pci cards, so they are always plugged in | 12:35 |
| Strayfolk | okay! I'll try to reboot with the firewire on. I didn't do that | 12:35 |
| Strayfolk | bb in 5 | 12:35 |
| Strayfolk | same amout of xruns | 12:40 |
| Strayfolk | ... | 12:40 |
| Strayfolk | I'm never getting this to work | 12:40 |
| ailo | What's your latency setting? | 12:40 |
| Strayfolk | I've tried them all | 12:40 |
| Strayfolk | I just ran 3x128 for testing | 12:41 |
| Strayfolk | normally I have to use 3x256 for normal use | 12:41 |
| Strayfolk | and 3x512 for mixing | 12:41 |
| Strayfolk | but always with random xruns | 12:41 |
| Strayfolk | regardless of everything | 12:41 |
| ailo | Could be network-manager is doing that. | 12:42 |
| ailo | It used to cause problems. | 12:42 |
| Strayfolk | I don't have network manager | 12:42 |
| Strayfolk | I use wicd | 12:42 |
| Strayfolk | even at 3x1024 I get xruns | 12:43 |
| Strayfolk | and I don't want to work at that latency | 12:44 |
| ailo | Do you know what is sharing the firewire irq? | 12:45 |
| Strayfolk | usb and graphics | 12:46 |
| Strayfolk | since I've tried everything else, I'll try getting an expresscard firewire controller | 12:46 |
| ailo | Strayfolk: I cant vouch for that the rtirq is working for you, so it would be nice to find that out first, I think | 12:47 |
| ailo | What firewire chip do you have, btw? | 12:47 |
| Strayfolk | it's a ricoh something, deemed to work by some | 12:47 |
| Strayfolk | this is my thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1665701&highlight=vaio+edirol | 12:48 |
| Strayfolk | how do I check whether the irq prios are in order? | 12:48 |
| ailo | Strayfolk: Try #opensourcemusicians. I'm know too little about both firewire and rtirq to give you any real help. I've never had any problems myself, so i've had no reason to find out. | 12:50 |
| Strayfolk | ok, thanks anyway! | 12:51 |
| ailo | tertl3 probably knows something about rtprio, and the guy who wrote the script is sometimes logged in too. | 12:52 |
| Strayfolk | now it's working ok for a few seconds @ 3x128... | 12:52 |
| Strayfolk | let's see for how long :) | 12:52 |
| Strayfolk | I'm fiddling with jack settings now | 12:52 |
| ailo | AutoStatic: Do you have experience with -rt firewire and rtirqinit? | 12:54 |
| AutoStatic | Yes | 12:54 |
| Strayfolk | AutoStatic, you helped me @ the forumm | 12:54 |
| Strayfolk | I'm trying the realtime kernel now... I got something going now :) | 12:54 |
| AutoStatic | I´ m rereading the thread Strayfolk | 12:55 |
| AutoStatic | Martin Trulan is a knowledgeable user so it's not your FireWire controller | 12:56 |
| Strayfolk | I'm sort of inclined to think that my system Should work! since now I've been running ardour + renoise for five minutes @ 3x128 without xruns | 12:56 |
| AutoStatic | Cool! If you do get some xruns every now and then try the Tango Studio real-time kernel | 12:57 |
| Strayfolk | AutoStatic, on your advice I installed the tango ppa | 12:57 |
| Strayfolk | and afterwards the rt kernel | 12:57 |
| AutoStatic | The 2.6.31--11-rt? | 12:57 |
| Strayfolk | jes | 12:58 |
| AutoStatic | 2.6.31-11-rt | 12:58 |
| AutoStatic | Try the one from Tango Studio | 12:58 |
| AutoStatic | 2.6.33-30-real-time | 12:58 |
| AutoStatic | Performs better on all my systems | 12:58 |
| AutoStatic | And significantly better on my notebook and netbook | 12:58 |
| AutoStatic | The Tango Studio real-time kernel is in the lucid-lowlatency repository | 12:59 |
| AutoStatic | But if 2.6.31-11-rt works for you, then stick with that one :) | 13:00 |
| Strayfolk | okay! I can't find it though | 13:00 |
| Strayfolk | 33-29 I find | 13:00 |
| AutoStatic | http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/en/kernel-rt | 13:00 |
| Strayfolk | I'll be back for more tweaking later! I'm late for an appointment | 13:01 |
| Strayfolk | thanks for your help!! | 13:01 |
| Strayfolk | cu | 13:01 |
| AutoStatic | Ok :) | 13:01 |
| AutoStatic | You're welocme | 13:01 |
| AutoStatic | welcome | 13:01 |
| tertl3 | hello | 14:13 |
| holstein | tertl3: lol | 14:16 |
| holstein | what do you want ;) | 14:16 |
| AutoStatic | Hello tertl3! | 14:16 |
| holstein | AutoStatic: o/ | 14:16 |
| tertl3 | :P | 14:16 |
| AutoStatic | Hello holstein | 14:16 |
| holstein | tertl3: are you using ubuntustudio? | 14:19 |
| tertl3 | no, but I go to ubuntustudio preperation page to get all of the things I need after a fresh install | 14:20 |
| holstein | cool | 14:20 |
| tertl3 | the only reason i dont use the ubuntustudio iso is because I dont use all the extra programs | 14:29 |
| tertl3 | but I think I heard ScottL saying he was keeping it up now | 14:29 |
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