[04:44] <plain-user> Hello all!
[04:46] <plain-user> Can anyone tell if there is some analogs of guitar pro, transcribe and guitar rig in ubuntustudio, or where can i read about the packages that are included in the distro?
[04:49] <Technicus> Hello . . . does Ubuntu Studio have a seperate repository?
[04:53] <holstein> plain-user: hey
[04:53] <holstein> what functionality are you looking for?
[04:53] <holstein> Technicus: the ubuntustudio metapackages are in the main buntu repos
[04:53] <holstein> theres not really an official seperate ubuntustudio repo
[04:54] <holstein> plenty of PPA's
[04:54] <holstein> community PPA's
[05:03] <plain-user> holstein: 1) work with guitar pro format and midi files. 2) work with audio formats in a fashion that transcribe! does: play slowly, shift pitch, etc. 3) play electric guitar/or mike up the cabinet and record into pc through my m-audio card. that's pretty much it.
[05:03] <holstein> im not sure what guitar pro is
[05:04] <holstein> you can check winehq though
[05:04] <holstein> see about running it in wine
[05:04] <plain-user> holstein: midi based guitar tab editor software.
[05:04] <holstein> plain-user: check out #opensourcemusicians
[05:04] <holstein> theres tuxguitar
[05:04] <holstein> lots of other stuff
[05:04] <holstein> i dont do any of that
[05:04] <holstein> and havent really explored them
[05:05] <plain-user> holstein: i'm doing that in my current installation in another distro, i just thought ubuntustudio would be like everything at once and everything handy - isn't it the idea of it? instead of having lots of configs of this and taht through emulators
[05:05] <holstein> but, i see folk discussing them occasionally in that channel
[05:05] <plain-user> thank you, i will visit that channel.
[05:05] <holstein> plain-user: sure
[05:05] <holstein> you should ask whoever makes guitar pro to support linux
[05:05] <holstein> and im sure ubuntustudio and other distros will be happ to include it
[05:06] <plain-user> holstein: they do, but for a fee))
[05:06] <holstein> if its something a lot of users would like
[05:06] <holstein> plain-user: theres a linux version?
[05:06] <plain-user> they have support but not oss
[05:06] <holstein> interesting
[05:07] <holstein> im sure there is some grey area then
[05:07] <holstein> that will prevent its inclusion by default
[05:07] <holstein> but, feel free and join #ubuntustudio-devel
[05:07] <holstein> and bring it up
[05:07] <plain-user> yep, you download a deb package, buy the activation code and play. but that's not good enough - has to be free, so that people can stuff it up with random skins ))
[05:08] <holstein> plain-user: if it can be in the software store
[05:08] <holstein> the ubuntu software store
[05:08] <holstein> i would think that would be a step in the right direction
[05:09] <plain-user> holstein: what about other 2 functions - recording live sound and posibly putting on a vst plugin on top of that signal?
[05:09] <holstein> sure
[05:09] <holstein> rakkarack too
[05:09] <holstein> guitarix
[05:10] <plain-user> thank you
[05:10] <holstein> JACK is what you will want to read about
[05:10] <holstein> and learn
[05:10] <holstein> after you get JACK running stable
[05:10] <holstein> most other things are much easier
[05:11] <plain-user> ok, thanks for the hint, i go and rtm. =)
[05:11] <holstein> plain-user: we'll help you get it started sometime too :)
[05:13] <holstein> plain-user: does guitar pro have jack support?
[05:15] <plain-user> not sure
[05:15] <holstein> well, tuxguitar does
[05:16] <plain-user> what about watching SAT TV - is that considered as multimedia too?
[05:17] <plain-user> obviously, running the dish trhought the card and the pc...
[05:17] <holstein> satelite?
[05:17] <plain-user> yes
[05:17] <holstein> for the most part
[05:17] <holstein> ubuntustudio is about creating media
[05:18] <holstein> i would look at mythbuntu for what you are talking about
[05:18] <plain-user> so it must have good suport for a variety of weird hardware internals that are aimed at specific task, right?
[05:19] <holstein> it = ?
[05:20] <plain-user> ubuntustudio*
[05:20] <plain-user> myth thing is probably the right appliance, thanks again for the hint
[05:20] <holstein> ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[05:21] <holstein> mythbuntu = all of that to
[05:21] <holstein> its all the same repos
[05:21] <holstein> same kernels too usually
[05:21] <holstein> for the most part
[05:21] <holstein> its more about the vendors who make the hardware
[05:21] <holstein> and those cable cards are tricky i hear
[05:22] <plain-user> =\
[05:22] <plain-user> ok, well, i go and explore some of this new info you gave me. !
[05:22] <holstein> sure
[06:08] <Stryker> any1 know how to install 10.10 from usb? the installer tells me it is unable to mount the disk, which doesn't exist, as i am using USB
[06:08] <holstein> Stryker: hey
[06:09] <holstein> the easy way to do that is to just get the vanilla buntu live disc and check out
[06:09] <holstein> !vanilla
[06:09] <holstein> let me find a link though...
[06:09] <Stryker> what does it do
[06:10] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/697774
[06:10] <Stryker> sounds delicious
[06:10] <holstein> Stryker: add yourself to that bug if you dont mind
[06:10] <Stryker> k
[06:10] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller
[06:11] <holstein> thats the link that talks about how to make the ubuntustudio installer disc work
[06:11] <holstein> with unetbootin
[06:11] <holstein> still, easier to just to vanilla
[06:11] <holstein> and add what you want
[06:12] <holstein> i usually install ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[06:12] <holstein> Stryker: im heading out
[06:12] <Stryker> what is vanilla
[06:12] <holstein> vanilla = just plain old ubuntu
[06:12] <holstein> ubuntustudio is ubuntu
[06:12] <Stryker> without all the bulk?
[06:12] <holstein> just with some packages added
[06:12] <holstein> and some taken out
[06:12] <holstein> and customized
[06:13] <Stryker> how can i get all that is in ubuntu studio?
[06:13] <holstein> Stryker: its all in the repos
[06:13] <Stryker> what package(s)
[06:13] <holstein> you just add the metapackages
[06:14] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins are the ones i use
[06:14] <holstein> mostly only those
[06:14] <holstein> you dont have to do it that way though
[06:14] <holstein> you can just add the packages you want
[06:14] <Stryker> okay, i don't care about video, is that all i need to get all the audio stuff
[06:14] <holstein> pretty much
[06:14] <Stryker> thks holstein
[06:14] <holstein> Stryker: im heading out for the nite
[06:14] <holstein> check out
[06:14] <holstein> #opensourcemusicians
[06:15] <holstein> if you need more info tonite
[06:15] <holstein> Stryker: enjoy :)
[06:16] <Stryker> okay, thx
[10:51] <plain-user> yes, you were right, holstein, i need some help getting it started )
[12:01] <Strayfolk> hello!
[12:02] <Strayfolk> I'm on kernel 2.6.31-11-rt and I'd like help running the rtirq script
[12:26] <ScottL> Strayfolk, ailo has expereience with the rtirq script, maybe he can help you
[12:28] <Strayfolk> nice...
[12:28] <ailo> ScottL: I don't need help with it. Just pointed out, it isn't uninstalling.
[12:28] <ailo> When you do apt-get remove rtirq-init it isn't removed
[12:28] <ScottL> ailo, Strayfolk asked for help with rtirq script
[12:28] <ailo> Oh, sorry
[12:29] <ScottL> :)
[12:29] <ailo> Strayfolk, what's up?
[12:29] <Strayfolk> yes, I downloaded the .sh from http://www.rncbc.org/jack/
[12:29] <Strayfolk> can't run it...
[12:29] <ailo> What system are you on?
[12:30] <ailo> The rtirq script is a startup job that should be run at bootup. Not as a user.
[12:30] <Strayfolk> I'm on ubuntu studio 10.04 64 bit
[12:30] <Strayfolk> trying out the 2.6.31-11-rt for the first time
[12:31] <Strayfolk> sony vaio f12 + edirol fa66
[12:31] <ailo> Strayfolk: You have rtirq in the repo. Just install the package rtirq-init
[12:31] <Strayfolk> I've done that
[12:31] <Strayfolk> should I be set?
[12:32] <ailo> It's automatic, so no need to tune it. Are you using firewire?
[12:32] <Strayfolk> what if I've been fiddling with the /etc/default/rtirq manually?
[12:32] <Strayfolk> I am.
[12:32] <ailo> But is Lucid running the juju stack?
[12:32] <Strayfolk> ohci1394
[12:33] <ailo> What is it you want to adjust in the rtirq?
[12:33] <Strayfolk> I want to make the magic happen :)
[12:33] <ailo> It's already set to do that. No need to adjust it
[12:34] <ailo> The script in /etc/init.d/rtirq will detect your sound devices and add priority to them
[12:34] <Strayfolk> ok
[12:34] <ailo> I'm not sure if you need to have firewire plugged in during startup or not, though.
[12:35] <ailo> Haven't investigated. I use pci cards, so they are always plugged in
[12:35] <Strayfolk> okay! I'll try to reboot with the firewire on. I didn't do that
[12:35] <Strayfolk> bb in 5
[12:40] <Strayfolk> same amout of xruns
[12:40] <Strayfolk> ...
[12:40] <Strayfolk> I'm never getting this to work
[12:40] <ailo> What's your latency setting?
[12:40] <Strayfolk> I've tried them all
[12:41] <Strayfolk> I just ran 3x128 for testing
[12:41] <Strayfolk> normally I have to use 3x256 for normal use
[12:41] <Strayfolk> and 3x512 for mixing
[12:41] <Strayfolk> but always with random xruns
[12:41] <Strayfolk> regardless of everything
[12:42] <ailo> Could be network-manager is doing that.
[12:42] <ailo> It used to cause problems.
[12:42] <Strayfolk> I don't have network manager
[12:42] <Strayfolk> I use wicd
[12:43] <Strayfolk> even at 3x1024 I get xruns
[12:44] <Strayfolk> and I don't want to work at that latency
[12:45] <ailo> Do you know what is sharing the firewire irq?
[12:46] <Strayfolk> usb and graphics
[12:46] <Strayfolk> since I've tried everything else, I'll try getting an expresscard firewire controller
[12:47] <ailo> Strayfolk: I cant vouch for that the rtirq is working for you, so it would be nice to find that out first, I think
[12:47] <ailo> What firewire chip do you have, btw?
[12:47] <Strayfolk> it's a ricoh something, deemed to work by some
[12:48] <Strayfolk> this is my thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1665701&highlight=vaio+edirol
[12:48] <Strayfolk> how do I check whether the irq prios are in order?
[12:50] <ailo> Strayfolk: Try #opensourcemusicians. I'm know too little about both firewire and rtirq to give you any real help. I've never had any problems myself, so i've had no reason to find out.
[12:51] <Strayfolk> ok, thanks anyway!
[12:52] <ailo> tertl3 probably knows something about rtprio, and the guy who wrote the script is sometimes logged in too.
[12:52] <Strayfolk> now it's working ok for a few seconds @ 3x128...
[12:52] <Strayfolk> let's see for how long :)
[12:52] <Strayfolk> I'm fiddling with jack settings now
[12:54] <ailo> AutoStatic: Do you have experience with -rt firewire and rtirqinit?
[12:54] <AutoStatic> Yes
[12:54] <Strayfolk> AutoStatic, you helped me @ the forumm
[12:54] <Strayfolk> I'm trying the realtime kernel now... I got something going now :)
[12:55] <AutoStatic> I´ m rereading the thread Strayfolk
[12:56] <AutoStatic> Martin Trulan is a knowledgeable user so it's not your FireWire controller
[12:56] <Strayfolk> I'm sort of inclined to think that my system Should work! since now I've been running ardour + renoise for five minutes @ 3x128 without xruns
[12:57] <AutoStatic> Cool! If you do get some xruns every now and then try the Tango Studio real-time kernel
[12:57] <Strayfolk> AutoStatic, on your advice I installed the tango ppa
[12:57] <Strayfolk> and afterwards the rt kernel
[12:57] <AutoStatic> The 2.6.31--11-rt?
[12:58] <Strayfolk> jes
[12:58] <AutoStatic> 2.6.31-11-rt
[12:58] <AutoStatic> Try the one from Tango Studio
[12:58] <AutoStatic> 2.6.33-30-real-time
[12:58] <AutoStatic> Performs better on all my systems
[12:58] <AutoStatic> And significantly better on my notebook and netbook
[12:59] <AutoStatic> The Tango Studio real-time kernel is in the lucid-lowlatency repository
[13:00] <AutoStatic> But if 2.6.31-11-rt works for you, then stick with that one :)
[13:00] <Strayfolk> okay! I can't find it though
[13:00] <Strayfolk> 33-29 I find
[13:00] <AutoStatic> http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/en/kernel-rt
[13:01] <Strayfolk> I'll be back for more tweaking later! I'm late for an appointment
[13:01] <Strayfolk> thanks for your help!!
[13:01] <Strayfolk> cu
[13:01] <AutoStatic> Ok :)
[13:01] <AutoStatic> You're welocme
[13:01] <AutoStatic> welcome
[14:13] <tertl3> hello
[14:16] <holstein> tertl3: lol
[14:16] <holstein> what do you want ;)
[14:16] <AutoStatic> Hello tertl3!
[14:16] <holstein> AutoStatic: o/
[14:16] <tertl3> :P
[14:16] <AutoStatic> Hello holstein
[14:19] <holstein> tertl3: are you using ubuntustudio?
[14:20] <tertl3> no, but I go to ubuntustudio preperation page to get all of the things I need after a fresh install
[14:20] <holstein> cool
[14:29] <tertl3> the only reason i dont use the ubuntustudio iso is because I dont use all the extra programs
[14:29] <tertl3> but I think I heard ScottL saying he was keeping it up now