| Riddell | yofel: could you install this and tell me if it works? | 00:00 |
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| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/language-selector-common_0.14_all.deb | 00:00 |
| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/language-selector-kde_0.14_all.deb | 00:00 |
| Riddell | kbuildsycoca4; kcmshell4 language-selector | 00:01 |
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| yofel | Riddell: will do so in a moment, installing updates here | 00:06 |
| yofel | Riddell: first: | 00:07 |
| yofel | Unpacking language-selector-kde (from language-selector-kde_0.14_all.deb) ... | 00:07 |
| yofel | dpkg: error processing language-selector-kde_0.14_all.deb (--install): | 00:07 |
| yofel | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pyshared/LanguageSelector/qt/__init__.py', which is also in package language-selector-qt 0.13 | 00:07 |
| Riddell | hmm, he didn't add that conflicts | 00:08 |
| Riddell | well --force-overwrite that | 00:08 |
| yofel | Well, it did start by telling me that language support isn't installed completely | 00:09 |
| yofel | one thing: what does 'Apply' do? Do the action you last selected? or the one you selected on the current tab? or the ones you selected on every tab? | 00:10 |
| yofel | I only have english installed, I can select that on the uninstall tab, but I can't deselect it, rever will disable the apply button, but english is still selected and I can't select it again | 00:12 |
| yofel | s/rever/revert/ | 00:12 |
| yofel | err. reset | 00:12 |
| Riddell | ok so it's generally working for you | 00:13 |
| Riddell | for some reason it refused to believe there was such a module as language-selector for me, but if I renamed the .desktop file it was fine | 00:13 |
| yofel | it's generally working, just the apply button is totally confusing, I didn't press it yet | 00:13 |
| yofel | as I don't understand what it will do | 00:13 |
| Riddell | the UI isn't quite right yet | 00:14 |
| yofel | other than that, not bad | 00:14 |
| Riddell | not sure how to get it just right though, but that can be an issue for post-feature freeze | 00:14 |
| yofel | It would be nice if the apply button would be glued to the tab, as I expected the button do be disabled when I switched tabs - or the dialog coming up asking me if I want to save my changes or discard them | 00:15 |
| Riddell | well that's what it was in the previous revision | 00:16 |
| Riddell | but then it's not properly integrated as a kcontrol module | 00:16 |
| Riddell | but that might well be better than this | 00:17 |
| yofel | as currently, I assume pressing apply will install german support that I selected on the first tab and uninstall english support which is selected on the 2nd tab at the same time - not what I want, and I can't change that without restarting the KCM | 00:17 |
| yofel | wait, or pressing reset, but it's still confusing | 00:18 |
| yofel | Riddell: is it giving a confirmation dialog after pressing apply or does it simply apply the changes? | 00:19 |
| Riddell | yofel: it'll ask for your password | 00:19 |
| yofel | ah | 00:19 |
| valorie | Riddell: owncloud is v. cool! | 01:40 |
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| Mamarok | I get an error when I try to install owncloud | 07:02 |
| Mamarok | http://paste.ubuntu.com/570964 | 07:04 |
| bambee | morning | 08:32 |
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| apachelogger | Mamarok: where is that package from? | 12:18 |
| apachelogger | oh | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | actually your apache2 is defunct | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | and thus owncloud install fails | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | whether or not that is good behaviour is arguable | 12:19 |
| Riddell | Syntax error on line 17 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/kolab: blame kolab | 12:21 |
| Riddell | hi bambee, language selector is in! | 12:25 |
| bambee | I saw that... nice :D | 12:25 |
| bambee | Riddell: I'll send you a patch for kdebase-runtime in the afternoon | 12:28 |
| bambee | (drop language-selector patch and bump it to 4.6.0-0ubuntu2) | 12:28 |
| Riddell | bambee: oh I already did that | 12:28 |
| Riddell | trivial to do | 12:28 |
| bambee | oh great | 12:28 |
| bambee | :) | 12:29 |
| Riddell | what I'm wondering now is the upgrade hook thing | 12:29 |
| bambee | i.e ? | 12:29 |
| bambee | s/i.e/ie/ | 12:30 |
| Riddell | something, and I can't remember what, puts a file in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ | 12:30 |
| Riddell | which tells kubuntu-notification-helper to call check-language-support | 12:30 |
| Riddell | and if check-language-support says there's a missing language pack it tells it to run language-selector | 12:31 |
| Riddell | which presumably needs to be updated now that language-selector is a kcm not standalone | 12:31 |
| bambee | ohh that | 12:31 |
| Riddell | I wish I remember what put the file into /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ | 12:34 |
| * Quintasan doesnt get this whole ownCloud stuff | 12:34 | |
| bambee | incomplete-language-support-kde.note ? | 12:35 |
| Riddell | bambee: that sounds about right | 12:35 |
| Riddell | where is that? | 12:35 |
| bambee | in data/ | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I wish people documented that stuff | 12:36 |
| bambee | or in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ when it's installed | 12:36 |
| Riddell | bambee: ah hah, so that command needs to be updated | 12:36 |
| bambee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/571073/ <--- like that ? | 12:37 |
| Riddell | bambee: yes | 12:37 |
| bambee | :) | 12:37 |
| Riddell | bambee: yofel had some ponderings on the UI, see the irc logs from last night | 12:40 |
| bambee | Riddell: ok | 12:41 |
| bambee | where I can find irc logs btw ? (except my client, because I was disconnected) | 12:43 |
| Riddell | irclogs.ubuntu.com | 12:43 |
| bambee | nice :) | 12:43 |
| bambee | Riddell: revert "Apply" when the user switch tab is a good idea... revert or ask for changes | 12:48 |
| Riddell | yes | 12:53 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Are rbelem's changes for Samba already in our packages? | 13:14 |
| bambee | yofel: in your opinion, revert apply on every tab changes is correct ? | 13:24 |
| yofel | that's what I think is easiest to understand, as it's easy to do a change on one tab currently, then decide not to apply it, change another tab and forget the changes on the other tab might still get applied | 13:25 |
| bambee | actually changes are applied only for the current tab (not for all) | 13:27 |
| yofel | ah, then it's still confusing that apply is still enabled when switching to another tab that I didn no changes to | 13:28 |
| bambee | and I changed code to revert "apply" when the current tab change, it seems good | 13:28 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: yes | 13:28 |
| bambee | yofel: I agree | 13:28 |
| yofel | bambee: ok, I can live with that | 13:28 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Kinda can't find it :( | 13:28 |
| bambee | that's why revert "apply" when the current tab changes is a good idea.. I think | 13:28 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what version of kdenetwork-filesharing do you have? | 13:30 |
| Quintasan | 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu4 | 13:31 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: and the share tab in file properties shows whta? | 13:31 |
| Riddell | what | 13:32 |
| Quintasan | oh it worked | 13:32 |
| Quintasan | turns our it needed a restart | 13:32 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Why does it use KPK and not QApt? | 13:32 |
| bambee | yofel: could you try this patch ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/571106/ | 13:33 |
| bambee | basically: the apply button and selected items are reverted when the current tab changes ;) | 13:35 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: packagekit is cross distro | 13:35 |
| Quintasan | Hmm, right. | 13:35 |
| Quintasan | That went upstream, didn't it? | 13:36 |
| Riddell | yes this samba support is upstream | 13:36 |
| Quintasan | How long do they plan to keep the X stack broken? | 13:37 |
| Quintasan | FFS | 13:37 |
| yofel | bambee: much better :) | 13:38 |
| bambee | yofel: hehe :) | 13:38 |
| bambee | Someone could commit the following patch in lp:language-selector for me ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/571112/ | 13:54 |
| bambee | (I'm at university there) | 13:55 |
| Riddell | bambee: yes but could you use paste.kde.org? | 13:56 |
| Riddell | I can't wget with p.u.c which makes it so much more hassle | 13:56 |
| bambee | sure | 13:56 |
| bambee | http://paste.kde.org/5673/ | 13:57 |
| Riddell | hmm, I think that patch suffers from the annoying konsole putting spaces at the end of lines issue | 13:59 |
| bambee | aaarfff | 14:00 |
| Riddell | I've applied it by hand | 14:00 |
| bambee | ok | 14:01 |
| Riddell | committed | 14:02 |
| bambee | thanks ;) | 14:02 |
| Quintasan | I wonder why Strigi is so mentally challenged | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | Damned KDE keeps mumbling about Strigi turned off and System settings say it is indexing | 14:03 |
| ScottK | One day we'll all have 16 core CPU netbooks and phones and Strigi will have almost enough CPU. | 14:15 |
| Quintasan | lol | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: More like "Enough CPU when I create I cluster from these devices" | 14:20 |
| yofel | yeah, and as soon everyone of use uses SSDs nepomukfilewatch won't be noticible too | 14:20 |
| ScottK | Maybe. | 14:20 |
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| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 16:45 |
| lucidfox | How do I select a theme for GTK3? | 17:15 |
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| apachelogger | lucidfox: there is no KDE gui for that I believe | 18:09 |
| lucidfox | Oops, wait, wrong channel | 18:10 |
| lucidfox | #kubuntu-devel, I meant #ubuntu-devel | 18:10 |
| lucidfox | (I was actually looking for any way at all, not necessarily a GUI one) | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | lucidfox: surely you just need to drop a .gtk-3-rc or somesuch | 18:11 |
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| bambee | yeah... after an upgrade xorg is dead xD | 19:03 |
| bambee | apparently it drops xserver-xorg-video-nouveau because xorg-video-abi-9.0 is missing | 19:03 |
| bambee | I probably missed something in dist-upgrade o_O | 19:04 |
| yofel | erm, there is no nvidia driver for xserver 1.10 yet, so either use old X or nouveau | 19:05 |
| yofel | or didn't you properly keep all X packages back? | 19:06 |
| bambee | indeed | 19:06 |
| yofel | as nvidia-current needs xorg-video-abi-8.0 and everything else xorg-video-abi-9.0 | 19:06 |
| bambee | I just upgraded without pay attention | 19:06 |
| bambee | yofel: no I use nouveau not nvidia-current | 19:06 |
| yofel | well, nouveau works reasonable here (without 3D) | 19:06 |
| * yofel installs latest updates | 19:07 | |
| bambee | thanks irssi :D | 19:08 |
| yofel | ^^ | 19:08 |
| yofel | nothing to update here, seems like todays X rebuilds didn't make it yet to my mirror | 19:09 |
| bambee | I used the wrong mirror at the wrong time | 19:12 |
| yofel | feel free to come to #ubuntu+1 - all sorts of breakage currently ^^ | 19:13 |
| bambee | I'm an idiot ! dist-upgrade says me "the following packages will be removed" on my laptop (which works) and I made the upgrade on my desktop o_O | 19:29 |
| afiestas | is possible to package bluedevil-git before the freeze? | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: if you throw sufficient amounts of money at me :P | 19:33 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: like an stripper? | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | yus | 19:35 |
| bambee | apachelogger: you don't accept cookies ? :P | 19:35 |
| bambee | or beer ? | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | beer works | 19:35 |
| bambee | tssss :p | 19:35 |
| bambee | aaah :) | 19:35 |
| bambee | or beer with cookies :p | 19:35 |
| * afiestas throws some beers to apachelogger xD | 19:35 | |
| apachelogger | ouch | 19:36 |
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| afiestas | apachelogger: if needed (because of ubuntu policy or something) I can create a tag | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | not necessary | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | time would be good though :S | 19:39 |
| afiestas | time? to create the package or when we'll releaase 1.1 final? | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | to create the package | 19:40 |
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| afiestas | sorry >.< no new dependencies though | 19:41 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer_: is it you on this photo? http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072198401_NZJSm | 20:13 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Yes. That's him. On the right is the back of apachelogger's head. | 20:18 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: are you there as well? | 20:19 |
| ScottK | Not in that photo. That's mgraesslin to the left. | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | the back of my head! | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | muahahah | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | also note the stylish position of my badge | 20:23 |
| * apachelogger actually ran out of options by the end of the week | 20:24 | |
| apachelogger | I could have attached it to a shoe maybe | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Note how the weight of shadeslayer_'s incredibly_large_and_heavy_but_still_slow laptop causes him to list. This was not unusual. | 20:35 |
| ScottK | http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072189809_NUEjy is rbelem. | 20:36 |
| bambee | apachelogger: I love the stylish position of your badge lool | 20:38 |
| yofel | great, I'm getting dolphin crashes.. | 20:56 |
| yofel | and ptrace: Operation not permitted. is back -.- | 20:57 |
| yofel | why am I getting a tiff crash when hovering over a .CR2 file o.O? (canon camera raw file) http://paste.kde.org/5717/ | 21:01 |
| yofel | disabled tooltips for now.. | 21:02 |
| micahg | hi, are we fully migrated to QT 4.7 in natty? | 21:14 |
| ScottK | micahg: Compared to what? | 21:14 |
| ScottK | We don't ship multiple Qt4 versions. | 21:15 |
| micahg | ScottK: ok, so everything moves at once (compared to 4.6) | 21:15 |
| micahg | ScottK: just saw a post on the qt webkit devel list about dropping 4.6 support on trunk | 21:15 |
| micahg | so, if we're on 4.7 in natty, we're good | 21:16 |
| ScottK | micahg: Yes. Qt gives a binary compatibility gaurantee for the life of Qt4, so modulo bugs, things don't have to be rebuilt. | 21:16 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 21:16 |
| micahg | ScottK: I'm concerned with webkit security updates once natty releases :) | 21:16 |
| ScottK | Reasonably so. | 21:16 |
| debfx | hrm, why is there no language-selector-qt transitional package | 22:04 |
| Riddell | debfx: it's seeded directly so it should get picked up once kubuntu-meta is refreshed | 22:10 |
| debfx | Riddell: still it's not a nice way to rename a package | 22:11 |
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| valorie | http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/02/23/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open/ | 22:15 |
| Riddell | ooh | 22:16 |
| ScottK | Right. Blogs are the official way the project communicates again. | 22:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: When I tried to update today it wanted to remove kubuntu-desktop. | 22:21 |
| ulysses | Will be availeble Synaptiks on Launchpad for translation? It says no template for it: | 22:24 |
| ulysses | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/synaptiks | 22:24 |
| debfx | ScottK: kubuntu-desktop still depends on -qt | 22:24 |
| maco | ulysses: kde translations are usually done within kde | 22:24 |
| ScottK | Synaptiks isn't core KDE, so it should ship it's own translations. | 22:25 |
| ulysses | I found a synaptiks.pot in playground-utils | 22:25 |
| ulysses | It contains 180 messages, but the template from git contains only 108 messages | 22:26 |
| debfx_ | maco: synaptiks doesn't use the kde infastructure | 22:27 |
| maco | debfx_: ScottK beat you to it | 22:27 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: that's because kubuntu-meta needs updating | 22:29 |
| Riddell | I'll do that now | 22:29 |
| Riddell | ScottK: blogs are better than twitter at least | 22:29 |
| ScottK | True. | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Mail to u-d-a would be nice though. | 22:29 |
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