[00:00] yofel: could you install this and tell me if it works? [00:00] http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/language-selector-common_0.14_all.deb [00:00] http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/language-selector-kde_0.14_all.deb [00:01] kbuildsycoca4; kcmshell4 language-selector === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [00:06] Riddell: will do so in a moment, installing updates here [00:07] Riddell: first: [00:07] Unpacking language-selector-kde (from language-selector-kde_0.14_all.deb) ... [00:07] dpkg: error processing language-selector-kde_0.14_all.deb (--install): [00:07] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pyshared/LanguageSelector/qt/__init__.py', which is also in package language-selector-qt 0.13 [00:08] hmm, he didn't add that conflicts [00:08] well --force-overwrite that [00:09] Well, it did start by telling me that language support isn't installed completely [00:10] one thing: what does 'Apply' do? Do the action you last selected? or the one you selected on the current tab? or the ones you selected on every tab? [00:12] I only have english installed, I can select that on the uninstall tab, but I can't deselect it, rever will disable the apply button, but english is still selected and I can't select it again [00:12] s/rever/revert/ [00:12] err. reset [00:13] ok so it's generally working for you [00:13] for some reason it refused to believe there was such a module as language-selector for me, but if I renamed the .desktop file it was fine [00:13] it's generally working, just the apply button is totally confusing, I didn't press it yet [00:13] as I don't understand what it will do [00:14] the UI isn't quite right yet [00:14] other than that, not bad [00:14] not sure how to get it just right though, but that can be an issue for post-feature freeze [00:15] It would be nice if the apply button would be glued to the tab, as I expected the button do be disabled when I switched tabs - or the dialog coming up asking me if I want to save my changes or discard them [00:16] well that's what it was in the previous revision [00:16] but then it's not properly integrated as a kcontrol module [00:17] but that might well be better than this [00:17] as currently, I assume pressing apply will install german support that I selected on the first tab and uninstall english support which is selected on the 2nd tab at the same time - not what I want, and I can't change that without restarting the KCM [00:18] wait, or pressing reset, but it's still confusing [00:19] Riddell: is it giving a confirmation dialog after pressing apply or does it simply apply the changes? [00:19] yofel: it'll ask for your password [00:19] ah [01:40] Riddell: owncloud is v. cool! === emma is now known as em [07:02] I get an error when I try to install owncloud [07:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/570964 [08:32] morning === muesli_ is now known as muesli [12:18] Mamarok: where is that package from? [12:19] oh [12:19] actually your apache2 is defunct [12:19] and thus owncloud install fails [12:19] whether or not that is good behaviour is arguable [12:21] Syntax error on line 17 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/kolab: blame kolab [12:25] hi bambee, language selector is in! [12:25] I saw that... nice :D [12:28] Riddell: I'll send you a patch for kdebase-runtime in the afternoon [12:28] (drop language-selector patch and bump it to 4.6.0-0ubuntu2) [12:28] bambee: oh I already did that [12:28] trivial to do [12:28] oh great [12:29] :) [12:29] what I'm wondering now is the upgrade hook thing [12:29] i.e ? [12:30] s/i.e/ie/ [12:30] something, and I can't remember what, puts a file in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ [12:30] which tells kubuntu-notification-helper to call check-language-support [12:31] and if check-language-support says there's a missing language pack it tells it to run language-selector [12:31] which presumably needs to be updated now that language-selector is a kcm not standalone [12:31] ohh that [12:34] I wish I remember what put the file into /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ [12:34] * Quintasan doesnt get this whole ownCloud stuff [12:35] incomplete-language-support-kde.note ? [12:35] bambee: that sounds about right [12:35] where is that? [12:35] in data/ [12:36] Riddell: I wish people documented that stuff [12:36] or in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ when it's installed [12:36] bambee: ah hah, so that command needs to be updated [12:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/571073/ <--- like that ? [12:37] bambee: yes [12:37] :) [12:40] bambee: yofel had some ponderings on the UI, see the irc logs from last night [12:41] Riddell: ok [12:43] where I can find irc logs btw ? (except my client, because I was disconnected) [12:43] irclogs.ubuntu.com [12:43] nice :) [12:48] Riddell: revert "Apply" when the user switch tab is a good idea... revert or ask for changes [12:53] yes [13:14] Riddell: Are rbelem's changes for Samba already in our packages? [13:24] yofel: in your opinion, revert apply on every tab changes is correct ? [13:25] that's what I think is easiest to understand, as it's easy to do a change on one tab currently, then decide not to apply it, change another tab and forget the changes on the other tab might still get applied [13:27] actually changes are applied only for the current tab (not for all) [13:28] ah, then it's still confusing that apply is still enabled when switching to another tab that I didn no changes to [13:28] and I changed code to revert "apply" when the current tab change, it seems good [13:28] Quintasan: yes [13:28] yofel: I agree [13:28] bambee: ok, I can live with that [13:28] Riddell: Kinda can't find it :( [13:28] that's why revert "apply" when the current tab changes is a good idea.. I think [13:30] Quintasan: what version of kdenetwork-filesharing do you have? [13:31] 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu4 [13:31] Quintasan: and the share tab in file properties shows whta? [13:32] what [13:32] oh it worked [13:32] turns our it needed a restart [13:32] Riddell: Why does it use KPK and not QApt? [13:33] yofel: could you try this patch ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/571106/ [13:35] basically: the apply button and selected items are reverted when the current tab changes ;) [13:35] Quintasan: packagekit is cross distro [13:35] Hmm, right. [13:36] That went upstream, didn't it? [13:36] yes this samba support is upstream [13:37] How long do they plan to keep the X stack broken? [13:37] FFS [13:38] bambee: much better :) [13:38] yofel: hehe :) [13:54] Someone could commit the following patch in lp:language-selector for me ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/571112/ [13:55] (I'm at university there) [13:56] bambee: yes but could you use paste.kde.org? [13:56] I can't wget with p.u.c which makes it so much more hassle [13:56] sure [13:57] http://paste.kde.org/5673/ [13:59] hmm, I think that patch suffers from the annoying konsole putting spaces at the end of lines issue [14:00] aaarfff [14:00] I've applied it by hand [14:01] ok [14:02] committed [14:02] thanks ;) [14:03] I wonder why Strigi is so mentally challenged [14:03] Damned KDE keeps mumbling about Strigi turned off and System settings say it is indexing [14:15] One day we'll all have 16 core CPU netbooks and phones and Strigi will have almost enough CPU. [14:20] lol [14:20] ScottK: More like "Enough CPU when I create I cluster from these devices" [14:20] yeah, and as soon everyone of use uses SSDs nepomukfilewatch won't be noticible too [14:20] Maybe. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === tarun is now known as Guest38772 === Guest38772 is now known as c2tarun === maco2 is now known as maco [16:45] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [17:15] How do I select a theme for GTK3? === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy [18:09] lucidfox: there is no KDE gui for that I believe [18:10] Oops, wait, wrong channel [18:10] #kubuntu-devel, I meant #ubuntu-devel [18:10] (I was actually looking for any way at all, not necessarily a GUI one) [18:11] lucidfox: surely you just need to drop a .gtk-3-rc or somesuch === fenris is now known as Guest29209 === Guest29209 is now known as e-jat === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy [19:03] yeah... after an upgrade xorg is dead xD [19:03] apparently it drops xserver-xorg-video-nouveau because xorg-video-abi-9.0 is missing [19:04] I probably missed something in dist-upgrade o_O [19:05] erm, there is no nvidia driver for xserver 1.10 yet, so either use old X or nouveau [19:06] or didn't you properly keep all X packages back? [19:06] indeed [19:06] as nvidia-current needs xorg-video-abi-8.0 and everything else xorg-video-abi-9.0 [19:06] I just upgraded without pay attention [19:06] yofel: no I use nouveau not nvidia-current [19:06] well, nouveau works reasonable here (without 3D) [19:07] * yofel installs latest updates [19:08] thanks irssi :D [19:08] ^^ [19:09] nothing to update here, seems like todays X rebuilds didn't make it yet to my mirror [19:12] I used the wrong mirror at the wrong time [19:13] feel free to come to #ubuntu+1 - all sorts of breakage currently ^^ [19:29] I'm an idiot ! dist-upgrade says me "the following packages will be removed" on my laptop (which works) and I made the upgrade on my desktop o_O [19:30] is possible to package bluedevil-git before the freeze? [19:33] afiestas: if you throw sufficient amounts of money at me :P [19:35] apachelogger: like an stripper? [19:35] yus [19:35] apachelogger: you don't accept cookies ? :P [19:35] or beer ? [19:35] no [19:35] beer works [19:35] tssss :p [19:35] aaah :) [19:35] or beer with cookies :p [19:35] * afiestas throws some beers to apachelogger xD [19:36] ouch === Artemis_Fowl_ is now known as Artemis_Fowl [19:39] apachelogger: if needed (because of ubuntu policy or something) I can create a tag [19:39] not necessary [19:39] time would be good though :S [19:40] time? to create the package or when we'll releaase 1.1 final? [19:40] to create the package === barraponto_ is now known as barraponto [19:41] sorry >.< no new dependencies though [20:13] shadeslayer_: is it you on this photo? http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072198401_NZJSm [20:18] ari-tczew: Yes. That's him. On the right is the back of apachelogger's head. [20:19] ScottK: are you there as well? [20:19] Not in that photo. That's mgraesslin to the left. [20:23] the back of my head! [20:23] muahahah [20:23] also note the stylish position of my badge [20:24] * apachelogger actually ran out of options by the end of the week [20:24] I could have attached it to a shoe maybe [20:35] Note how the weight of shadeslayer_'s incredibly_large_and_heavy_but_still_slow laptop causes him to list. This was not unusual. [20:36] http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072189809_NUEjy is rbelem. [20:38] apachelogger: I love the stylish position of your badge lool [20:56] great, I'm getting dolphin crashes.. [20:57] and ptrace: Operation not permitted. is back -.- [21:01] why am I getting a tiff crash when hovering over a .CR2 file o.O? (canon camera raw file) http://paste.kde.org/5717/ [21:02] disabled tooltips for now.. [21:14] hi, are we fully migrated to QT 4.7 in natty? [21:14] micahg: Compared to what? [21:15] We don't ship multiple Qt4 versions. [21:15] ScottK: ok, so everything moves at once (compared to 4.6) [21:15] ScottK: just saw a post on the qt webkit devel list about dropping 4.6 support on trunk [21:16] so, if we're on 4.7 in natty, we're good [21:16] micahg: Yes. Qt gives a binary compatibility gaurantee for the life of Qt4, so modulo bugs, things don't have to be rebuilt. [21:16] Yep. [21:16] ScottK: I'm concerned with webkit security updates once natty releases :) [21:16] Reasonably so. [22:04] hrm, why is there no language-selector-qt transitional package [22:10] debfx: it's seeded directly so it should get picked up once kubuntu-meta is refreshed [22:11] Riddell: still it's not a nice way to rename a package === kozz is now known as 5EXAB7FP9 [22:15] http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/02/23/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open/ [22:16] ooh [22:17] Right. Blogs are the official way the project communicates again. [22:21] Riddell: When I tried to update today it wanted to remove kubuntu-desktop. [22:24] Will be availeble Synaptiks on Launchpad for translation? It says no template for it: [22:24] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/synaptiks [22:24] ScottK: kubuntu-desktop still depends on -qt [22:24] ulysses: kde translations are usually done within kde [22:25] Synaptiks isn't core KDE, so it should ship it's own translations. [22:25] I found a synaptiks.pot in playground-utils [22:26] It contains 180 messages, but the template from git contains only 108 messages [22:27] maco: synaptiks doesn't use the kde infastructure [22:27] debfx_: ScottK beat you to it === solid_liq is now known as 50UAAA7CG [22:29] ScottK: that's because kubuntu-meta needs updating [22:29] I'll do that now [22:29] ScottK: blogs are better than twitter at least [22:29] True. [22:29] Mail to u-d-a would be nice though. === debfx_ is now known as debfx === solid_liq is now known as 20QAATNK3 === mueslix is now known as muesli === Artemis_Fowl_ is now known as Artemis_Fowl === Pici` is now known as Pici