[06:31] <kroot> Hello. Is anyone around that can help with translation import queues?
[06:34] <wgrant> kroot: Hi.
[07:18] <kroot> wgrant: Hello.
[07:19] <wgrant> kroot: You are having a problem with translation imports?
[07:21] <kroot> Well, I tried uploading it in the same directory layout it exported in... however, I see that is not the recommended layout for imports.
[07:22] <kroot> I just reuploaded it in the recommended format: https://translations.launchpad.net/connectbot/trunk/+imports
[07:24] <wgrant> henninge: Could you help kroot with his import layout?
[07:54] <henninge> wgrant: sorry, what was the request? I saw your ping but had to go off immediately.
[08:05] <henninge> also, I don't have any scroll-back
[08:05] <kroot> henninge: I was just having a bit of trouble making sure this translations import was in the right format for rosetta
[08:05] <kroot> https://translations.launchpad.net/connectbot/trunk/+imports
[08:05] <henninge> kroot: the new ones are good. I approved the template (it needed that because its path changed).
[08:05] <henninge> kroot: the translations should be approved automatically soon and then imported.
[08:45] <kroot> henninge: great, thanks
[08:47] <wgrant> win 55
[08:49] <kroot> Either that's a mistyped IRC command or you're keeping a score of how many people you help.
[08:54] <wgrant> kroot: It was, regrettably, merely missing a leading slash.
[09:25] <raphink> hello
[09:26] <raphink> I want to upload to a specific PPA, so I used dput ppa:raphink/augeas, but my package ended up on my main PPA
[09:26] <raphink> the uploading machine is running Lucid
[09:26] <raphink> and the raphink/augeas PPA exists
[09:32] <raphink> am I missing something?
[09:35] <wgrant> 2011-02-22 15:25:30 DEBUG   Considering changefile ~raphink/ubuntu/augeas_0.7.4-0ubuntu4~pparaphink1_source.changes
[09:35] <wgrant> dput uploaded straight into ~raphink, not ~raphink/augeas.
[09:35] <wgrant> Do you have a custom 'ppa' stanza in ~/.dput.cf, perhaps?
[10:00] <raphink> wgrant, let me check
[10:00] <raphink> ah right wgrant , I have a [ppa] entry in .dput.cf :-)
[10:01] <raphink> let me try again :-)
[10:01] <raphink> thanks for the debug
[10:20] <leoquant> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[10:20] <leoquant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/TeamReports
[10:20] <cdbs> that isn't a part of Launchpad
[10:21] <cdbs> leoquant: and, 500 errors are common in the wiki
[10:21] <leoquant> cdbs, ok
[10:21] <cdbs> leoquant: wait for 5-10 minutes, probably there is heavy load
[10:22] <cdbs> :o
[12:31] <lundh> Hi
[12:34] <lundh> I know that launchpad primarily is a hosted solution but I'm looking into the possibility to run it as a local install because of secrecy conserns. (We can not let a third party provider have a copy of our development documentation, no matter of how convenient it would be.) Is this being done? What should I keep in mind?
[12:39] <lundh> Registry and Bugs is the important parts that we would use. The code hosting is not really of any use to us (for now)
[13:03] <jml> lundh: in a nutshell, it's possible, but really difficult, and it's a use-case that's not supported by the Launchpad team.
[13:24] <lundh> jml: ok, so your recommendation is to look for another tool=
[13:25] <jml> lundh: or, if possible, re-evaluate your requirements. Launchpad does host private projects.
[13:27] <mikhas> (asked on wrong channel before) Hi, when using launchpad PPA's, can I somehow configure on the website that a package is made available for Lucid *and* Maverick? Or do I really have to re-upload the package, even if only the debian changelog changes?
[14:15] <bigjools> mikhas: you have 2 options. 1) re-upload as you have done, 2) upload to one of the series and use the PPA's copy-packages page to copy across to the other series
[14:23] <mikhas> oy, of course! that's what the combo box with the copying option is for, I guess
[14:23] <mikhas> I feel stupid now
[14:23] <mikhas> do I need to choose rebuild?
[14:46] <bigjools> mikhas: no, it will refuse that if you do
[14:53] <bigon> hi, is there any issue with the ppa's? looks like new packages on https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages are not published
[14:55] <hannie> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. This problem persists.
[14:56] <hannie> Can it be that more people are working on this translation at the moment?
[14:56] <bigjools> bigon: I can't see anything pending publishing
[14:56] <bigon> indeed
[14:56] <bigon> but
[14:56] <bigon>      2.90.0-1ubuntu1~build1 0
[14:56] <bigon>         450 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages
[14:57] <bigon> and in the ppa it's version ~build4
[14:57] <bigon> (pkg nautilus-sendto)
[14:58] <bigjools> bigon: no it isn't
[15:03] <bigon> mhhh the binary package has been removed from the source pkg
[15:03] <bigon> sigh
[15:05] <bigjools> bigon: it could be orphan cruft?
[15:06] <bigon> bigjools: indeed, I will readd the pkg
[15:16] <bigon> even worse, I'm stupid, sorry for the noise
[15:37] <hannie> Can anyone help me with this message on LP: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[15:37] <hannie> Please try again. This doesn't help
[15:38] <hannie> It only occurs with the LoCo Directory translation. All other packages are ok
[15:38] <jcsackett> hannie: what url are you trying to open?
[15:39] <jcsackett> or are you accessing via another means?
[15:39] <hannie> wait a sec
[15:39] <hannie> https://translations.launchpad.net/loco-directory/trunk/+pots/loco-directory/nl/
[15:40] <hannie> I have closed and reopened it, but to no avail
[15:42] <jcsackett> hannie: one sec.
[15:43] <hannie> ok
[15:46] <jcsackett> hannie: i can reproduce; it opens here. can you open translations.launchpad.net alright?
[15:46] <jcsackett> sorry, i *cannot* reproduce.
[15:46] <hannie> I cannot save
[15:47] <jcsackett> hannie: ah. i see. can you run me through exactly what you are doing/trying to do?
[15:47] <hannie> ok
[15:47] <hannie> I changed some strings. When I try to save I get this message
[15:48] <hannie> jcsackett, it started about 30 minutes ago and still doesn't want to save
[15:49] <hannie> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[15:49] <jcsackett> hannie: i see. okay, i am investigating.
[15:50] <hannie> thanks a lot. Please let me know when it is fixed.
[15:50] <jcsackett> hannie: will do. i may have to ask you further questions, or someone else may get pulled into this and ask you some questions as well. :-)
[15:51] <hannie> I can save the gcalctool messages on which I am working too
[15:51] <hannie> I'll hang around
[15:52] <RawChid> I think it's hard to reproduce since hannie had changed a bunch of strings and hit "save".
[15:52] <RawChid> Now she's refreshing in the hope it will actually save (am I right hannie ?)
[15:53] <hannie> I tried several times, but with the same result
[15:53] <RawChid> Did you re-enter the changes?
[15:53] <RawChid> Or back button of browser, and hit "save" again?
[15:53] <hannie> Yes, I test it with one string
[15:53] <RawChid> Ok :)
[15:54] <hannie> Even closed and opened and tried again
[15:54] <jcsackett> hannie: ok, i was just about to ask if you could try with just one string. thanks for clarifying. :-)
[15:54] <hannie> jcsackett, do you want me to close the page?
[15:55] <jcsackett> hannie: you have already completely closed the page and reopened it to try one string, yes?
[15:55] <hannie> yes, I did
[15:56] <hannie> I'll do it once more
[15:56] <jcsackett> hannie: if you want, sure. but i don't think it's necessary.
[15:57] <hannie> Just to be sure
[15:58] <hannie> same error message after closing, reopening, changing and saving
[16:03] <jcsackett> hannie: you said this started about 30 minutes ago; were you able to make changes before that today?
[16:04] <hannie> not today, but yesterday
[16:04] <jcsackett> hannie: ok.
[16:08] <RawChid> When changing this string: https://translations.launchpad.net/loco-directory/trunk/+pots/loco-directory/nl/24/+translate
[16:08] <RawChid> I get the same error as hannie
[16:09] <jcsackett> RawChid, hannie: are either of you getting OOPS numbers when you get the error message?
[16:09] <RawChid> No, nothing
[16:10] <hannie> No, just the text I sent you
[16:10] <RawChid> Here is a screenie: http://picpaste.com/LP-error-is1fngV1.png
[16:11] <hannie> jcsacket: one change was saved (it says 21 seconds ago)
[16:14] <jtv> RawChid, hannie, jcsackett: that doesn't even look translations-related… it's a more basic problem
[16:14] <hannie> It is "save"-related
[16:15]  * jtv asks around in another channel
[16:19] <jtv> hannie, RawChid: the screenshot and URL were very helpful—got someone looking at it now.
[16:19] <hannie> ok, thanks I will leave it to you guys.
[16:22] <RawChid> Good luck!
[16:22] <RawChid> Thanks for helping us out
[16:24] <jtv> RawChid, hannie: thanks for reporting this so carefully, and sorry for the inconvenience.  I'll try to keep you posted, though my shift is ending soon and I may be called away.
[16:24] <hannie> Ok, we'll see tomorrow
[16:27] <RawChid> I'll stick here in this channel
[16:32] <jtv> Cool.
[16:39] <jtv> RawChid: looks like it may be a problem in a proxy on your end… any chance you and hannie are behind one and the same proxy?
[16:40] <RawChid> Don't think so
[16:40] <RawChid> We live in different cities
[16:41] <RawChid> I don't use a proxy. Or are you talking about proxies inside the Launchpad infrastructure...
[16:42] <jtv> It's pretty unclear at the moment, so it was a bit of a guess.
[16:42] <RawChid> FYI, the problem still occurs on that URL I gave earlier
[16:43] <jtv> Oh, that's good to know—I'm passing that on
[16:43] <jtv> (People we wondering :)
[16:56] <jtv> RawChid: investigations are ongoing.  jcsackett is in a better timezone, so he will keep working on it with the admins.
[16:56] <jtv> (where "better" is "more suitable just now," of course :)
[16:57] <jcsackett> best would be a timezone where lunch isn't about to roll around. :-)
[16:57] <RawChid> Hehe, I'll cook diner in about 20 minutes :P
[16:57] <jtv> eet smakelijk dan :)
[16:58] <RawChid> Ah, ook Nederlands, dankjewel. En jij ook straks
[18:27] <till_> almost each time i dput to launchpad i get an ftp error, is that expected?
[18:27] <till_> the "stacktrace" says that the upload was successful
[18:27] <till_> but there was an error closing the connection
[18:27] <till_> the build is started too, it's just a weird error
[18:27] <till_> anyone have any thoughts?
[18:28] <RawChid> I'm just sitting here. But I think it may help if you pastebin the stacktrace
[18:28] <till_> http://friendpaste.com/3GWcB1xf4FUMG7HAx3Zncx
[18:28] <till_> RawChid: good idea ;)
[19:09] <falktx> hey there
[19:09] <falktx> i'm having lots of issues building packages on natty
[19:09] <falktx> afaik, natty has a kinda broken GCC
[19:10] <falktx> how do I force a package to build with an old GCC version?
[19:14] <sinzui> falktx: I do not think you can
[19:14] <falktx> oh, crap
[19:17] <falktx> how am I suppose to fix:
[19:17] <falktx> 'undefined reference to `sigc::signal_base::signal_base()'' ?
[19:17] <falktx> and lots of other errors like these
[19:17] <lifeless> I'd discuss that on #ubuntu-motu
[19:18] <lifeless> who are much more likely to be aware of compilation issues
[19:18] <falktx> lifeless: thanks, I didnt know which was the right channel for this
[19:39] <RedSingularity> Hey everyone!  Anybody available?
[19:41] <chmod755> yup
[19:42] <RedSingularity> I am having an issue turning bugs into questions.  Experienced this a few months ago but it is acting up again.  Maybe someone can look into it?  I will remain in the channel here.
[19:42] <micahg> RedSingularity: that's a known issue
[19:42] <RedSingularity> micahg: ahhh any workaround man?
[19:43] <micahg> RedSingularity: not that I know of
[19:43] <RedSingularity> micahg: just cant use questions for now then?
[19:43] <lifeless> you can make a new question
[19:43] <lifeless> then link the bug to the question
[19:43] <sinzui> RedSingularity: the action timesout?
[19:43] <RedSingularity> sinzui: yep
[19:44] <sinzui> lifeless: you cannot subscribe the bug reporter to the question. You will be the asker and you do not care about solving the issue
[19:45] <RedSingularity> Alright, guess i will create a new question or have the user do it.
[19:45] <lifeless> ah
[19:45] <lifeless> have the user do it
[19:45] <RedSingularity> Any idea how long before a fix?
[19:45] <RedSingularity> lifeless: alright
[19:45] <lifeless> RedSingularity: its in our critical bug list
[19:45] <lifeless> but there are 200 bugs in that list
[19:46] <sinzui> RedSingularity: Question side of the conversion rules are really stupid (/me wrote them) The bug description and the explanation of why it is q question is all that should be converted. The answer contactions should get one email, not one for each comment
[19:46] <RedSingularity> lifeless: 200 bugs filed against launchpad?!?
[19:46] <lifeless> RedSingularity: critical ones
[19:46] <lifeless> RedSingularity: we have 6000 bugs open
[19:46] <RedSingularity> lifeless: WOW
[19:47] <lifeless> https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project
[19:47] <RedSingularity> sinzui: i agree yes
[19:48] <sinzui> RedSingularity: I certainly want to fix this issue. There is 25% I can get this done in the next 4 weeks
[19:48] <RedSingularity> lifeless: so no eta on a fix yet i assume?
[19:48] <lifeless> RedSingularity: nope
[19:48] <lifeless> RedSingularity: its important to us
[19:48] <lifeless> RedSingularity: but we have other equally broken pages
[19:48] <sinzui> RedSingularity: there is a good chance. the convert question bug is a leading timeout. It is in the queue of critical
[19:51] <RedSingularity> sinzui lifeless Thanks for the info!  Just wanted to know whats going on ;)
[19:55] <lundh> hi again
[19:55] <lundh> I asked this a couple of hours ago but had to run so sorry for repeating myself
[19:56] <lundh> I am trying to figure out if launchpad is a viable solution as an internal issue tracking system. We can not have a hosted solution due to secrecy conserns but launchpad fit our need pretty good (private projects as well as (semi)public ones)
[19:57] <lundh> launchpads feature list is miles ahead of redmine or bugzilla as we would use it
[19:57] <jcsackett> lundh: you were asking earlier about internal hosting of launchpad, right?
[19:57] <lundh> yes
[19:57] <sinzui> lundh: This is not that channel to ask about hacking Lp to run internally or other hosting
[19:58] <lundh> which is?
[19:58] <lifeless> #launchpad-dev would be better
[19:58] <sinzui> lundh: We released Lps code to encourage users to contribute to the Lp service
[19:59] <lundh> I'm just trying to figure out what to do as there is no way that our project could be hosted even though that would be very nice
[19:59] <sinzui> Lp requires hacking to be used for anything other that lp.net development. The art is not free. We do not discuss how Lp is setup in prodution
[20:00] <lifeless> lundh: https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/VirtualMachine is a reasonable starting point
[20:00] <lundh> ok, that probably makes it unsuited for our needs, thanks for letting me know :)
[20:00] <lundh> too bad though, the feature list is really nice
[20:00] <lifeless> lundh: its certainly doable, but you'll need to put a reasonable amount of effort in - starting with a rebranding
[20:00] <sinzui> lundh: Companies like dell use Lp. I suspect  have more money at stake than your company
[20:01] <sinzui> s/suspect have/suspect dell has/
[20:01] <lundh> sinzui: money is not the issue, trust is and that is everything for this. no third party is ever allowed in
[20:02] <lifeless> lundh: there are other folk running internal lp instances around
[20:02] <sinzui> lundh: What issues block your company from using Lp.net? If we do not know what they are, Lp has little chance of ever serving your needs.
[20:02] <lifeless> lundh: I'm not aware of anyone running a publically accessible lp instance other than us
[20:03] <lundh> sinzui: The only way we could use lp.net would be to buy a server with it preinstalled and then having it on site at our location. thats the issue
[20:03] <lundh> lifeless: I'm not talking about publically avilable instances. this instance would be accessible by a handful of ips with passwords and encryption
[20:04] <lifeless> sinzui: some organisations have a 'no hosted solutions' policy
[20:04] <lifeless> lundh: you can certainly do that
[20:04] <lifeless> lundh: we'd be delighted if you contributed patches back that make it better for you
[20:06] <lundh> I'll look into it then. might be more then we can cope with though.
[20:07] <lundh> but if you would sell a server with launchpad pre installed (seald or whatever) I'm sure that would be attractive to several companies with similar policies
[20:24] <lifeless> lundh: its an interesting idea
[20:24] <lifeless> lundh: however our current focus is improving our quality and scaling to deal with users coming in from the internet
[20:27] <lundh> I can understand that
[21:31] <JFo> in attempting to accept the nominations on bug 723945 I am encountering a seemingly quick timeout. Anything I can do to avoid this?
[22:18] <wgrant> JFo: Do you have an OOPS ID for that timeout?
[22:19] <JFo> wgrant, Error ID: OOPS-1880K1665
[22:19] <wgrant> JFo: Thanks.
[22:19] <JFo> np :)
[22:41] <lifeless> zomg
[22:42] <lifeless> wgrant: jfo's oops - the ss query in it makes me want to stab my eyeballs
[22:43] <wgrant> lifeless: Would you like some DSP queries?
[22:43] <lifeless> they are nicer
[22:43] <wgrant> Not the ones during heat calculation.
[22:43] <lifeless> actually
[22:43] <lifeless> they are
[22:43] <lifeless> the ss ones are *4* pages long
[23:29] <pindonga> hi, I was wondering if it's possible to use launchpadlib to retrieve a list of bugs that have a specific tag (I don't find this in the api docs)
[23:31] <JFo> lifeless, sorry about that :-)
[23:32] <lifeless> JFo: hmm ?
[23:32] <thumper> pindonga: Possibly, but I'm not sure how
[23:32] <JFo> about the Oops ss query :)
[23:32] <lifeless> pindonga: yes, searchTasks(tag='foo')
[23:32] <lifeless> JFo: not your fault
[23:32] <pindonga> lifeless, that on lp.bugs?
[23:32] <lifeless> pindonga: on any bug context
[23:32] <pindonga> lifeless, cool, thanks