| daxroc | Morning all | 09:58 |
|---|---|---|
| czajkowski | Aloha | 10:00 |
| ebel | morning | 10:03 |
| czajkowski | how are we all doing ? | 10:04 |
| slashtom | morning | 10:04 |
| * ebel has tea! | 10:14 | |
| ebel | wonderous tea! | 10:14 |
| slashtom | is ebel awake now? | 10:20 |
| ebel | slashtom: moreso | 10:20 |
| czajkowski | tea makes the day all good | 10:20 |
| slashtom | i've just been told that i'm on the list for a new laptop | 10:29 |
| ebel | yay! | 10:30 |
| czajkowski | whoo | 10:31 |
| slashtom | i already have 2 on my desk | 10:33 |
| slashtom | soon i will be king of my cubicle! | 10:33 |
| ebel | God FG are rubbish at the web | 11:37 |
| terran | did you play their platformer | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | that annoying game from hell | 11:39 |
| czajkowski | http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/02/23/ubuntu-global-jam-coming-soon/ | 11:51 |
| * tdr112 thinks czajkowski copyed her email into a blog post | 11:54 | |
| czajkowski | I did | 11:54 |
| czajkowski | tdr112: I have a lot of mails to get out these days | 12:00 |
| czajkowski | one needs to do a bit of making my life easier! | 12:00 |
| tdr112 | cztab notting wrong with that | 12:05 |
| czajkowski | tdr112: you free? | 13:17 |
| czajkowski | need someone to test something for me on Ubuntu | 13:17 |
| czajkowski | https://one.ubuntu.com/music/l/2226574/0 | 13:17 |
| czajkowski | can someone log into Ubuntu one | 13:17 |
| czajkowski | and see if you can search for music and even buy a song? | 13:17 |
| ebel | czajkowski: not available to paddies | 13:21 |
| ebel | "This song is not available to buy from the Ubuntu One Music Store in your country. Sorry!" | 13:21 |
| ebel | (Although I haven't set up an ubuntu one account, i'm not logged in and i've never bought music from it, so it /miiight/ be different if you are logged in) | 13:22 |
| czajkowski | ebel: but you can get to one.Ubuntu.com | 13:22 |
| czajkowski | just your launchpad ac to sign in | 13:22 |
| ebel | czajkowski: no change after i login & signup to ubuntu one | 13:24 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 13:25 |
| czajkowski | so logging a bug | 13:25 |
| ebel | I think it's intentional | 13:25 |
| ebel | ish | 13:25 |
| ebel | They had to licence it from the big music labels | 13:25 |
| czajkowski | ireland uk laws differ it seems | 13:26 |
| ebel | I think $ETHNIC_GROUP_1 gets music from all 4 big labels | 13:26 |
| ebel | $ETHNIC_GROUP_2 can get it from 2 labels. | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | Ireland falls under EU | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | so we get 2 of the 4 big labels | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | UK differs from UK | 13:26 |
| ebel | and $ETHNIC_GROUP_3 can get creative commons licence. | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | UK differs from EU | 13:26 |
| ebel | It's per country, not per EU alas. | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | ebel: eh no, | 13:27 |
| czajkowski | there seems to be a massive difference in what I can buy when in UK and what I can buy in EI | 13:27 |
| ebel | yep, that's the music labels/companies for you | 13:28 |
| slashtom | this is why piracy wins | 13:29 |
| slashtom | you get a better product | 13:29 |
| ebel | I think canonical (?) or 3digital (the music company) would have to do deals in all these countries with all these music companies in order to sell in ireland | 13:31 |
| ebel | so they only do the big ones at first. | 13:31 |
| ebel | piracy FTW | 13:31 |
| ShaneM | slashtom: Piracy wins because people refuse to give customers what they want and instead tell them what they want. | 14:25 |
| ShaneM | IMO anyway | 14:25 |
| ebel | Pirated content is better from a customer point of view. | 14:32 |
| ebel | How common now is it for films to come out much later in europe? | 14:33 |
| ShaneM | ebel: No idea, I stopped buying movies ages ago. | 14:37 |
| ShaneM | I haven't watched anything in like a year :P | 14:37 |
| ebel | Avatar was released at almost the same weekend everywhere (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/releaseinfo) whereas there was about a month difference in when Titanic was released (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120338/releaseinfo) | 14:39 |
| ebel | The Lion King (1994) was released in IE ~3 months after US (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/releaseinfo) | 14:40 |
| ShaneM | Haha | 14:40 |
| ShaneM | Well be happy you don't live in central Europe | 14:40 |
| ShaneM | Even later I would assume since it needs to be translate | 14:41 |
| ShaneM | d | 14:41 |
| ebel | The reason we get films in Ireland the same time as USA is because of film piracy. | 14:42 |
| ebel | It's great! | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | :S | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | http://imgur.com/ZyeCO *grin* | 14:49 |
| ShaneM | Haha "This is flower pot" | 14:52 |
| Belserusk | In Ubuntu 'Users and Groups' why would someone need to add themselves as a member of their own group? | 15:11 |
| czajkowski | Belserusk: what do you mean | 15:13 |
| czajkowski | where are you seeing this | 15:14 |
| ebel | Moslty unneeded | 15:14 |
| ebel | You know about unix users & groups and the file permissions? | 15:14 |
| czajkowski | Belserusk: ahh on the machine | 15:14 |
| ebel | You might have a user 'ebel', and a group 'ebel'. | 15:14 |
| ebel | And technically the user ebel is in the group of ebel | 15:15 |
| ebel | However if it was a shared machine, you might have a group for "students" or "staff" | 15:15 |
| ebel | so 'ebel' would be in the 'staff' group or something. | 15:15 |
| czajkowski | nods | 15:17 |
| Belserusk | ebel, since the user ebel has user privalges - I don't see the need for him to be a member of group ebel. Although I do see how he could be a member or 'staff' or 'students' | 15:18 |
| ebel | if you remove the user from the group things will mostly just work | 15:18 |
| ebel | But you have to have a 'primary group' which under modern linux tradition is that this is the same as your username | 15:19 |
| ebel | And you are a member of that group,. | 15:19 |
| slashtom | all files and directories are assigned to a user and a group - so your own personal files must belong to your user and *your* group | 15:19 |
| Belserusk | slashtom, But I have this virtualbox ubuntu setup. It has a user named'ubuntu' and in this image that user is not part of group 'ubuntu' http://imgur.com/XCnMG | 15:23 |
| Belserusk | slashtom, well? | 15:29 |
| Belserusk | ebel, could you shed light on this/ | 15:30 |
| Belserusk | ? | 15:30 |
| ebel | Belserusk: what does "id" on the command line say | 15:30 |
| Belserusk | ebel, $ id | 15:31 |
| Belserusk | uid=1000(ubuntu) gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=1000(ubuntu),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),111(lpadmin),119(admin),122(sambashare) | 15:31 |
| ebel | There you go, you're in the group ubuntu and ubuntu is your primary group | 15:31 |
| ebel | it says gid=XXX for the primary group | 15:32 |
| ebel | groups=XXXX are the other groups | 15:32 |
| * daxroc pemissions are fun | 15:33 | |
| daxroc | *permissions :D | 15:33 |
| Belserusk | ebel, is the group 'ubuntu' in the image = uid=1000(ubuntu)? | 15:36 |
| daxroc | Anyone have problems with java vm lately ? | 15:36 |
| ebel | Belserusk: yes | 15:36 |
| ebel | groups have a name 'ubuntu' and a number '1000' | 15:36 |
| czajkowski | Belserusk: I think the confusion is you've have them the same name | 15:37 |
| czajkowski | which isn't helping you | 15:37 |
| czajkowski | Group Ubuntu users: Ubuntu users would be more clearer | 15:37 |
| daxroc | more /etc/group | 15:37 |
| Belserusk | czajkowski, I agree. | 15:37 |
| Belserusk | ebel, uid vs gid? What do they stand for? | 15:37 |
| daxroc | user id , group id | 15:37 |
| ebel | user id and group id resp. | 15:38 |
| Belserusk | resp. ? | 15:38 |
| Belserusk | sorry, i misread | 15:39 |
| Belserusk | Thank you ebel | 15:39 |
| ebel | respectively :) | 15:39 |
| Belserusk | ^_^ | 15:39 |
| ebel | when you go to that page your system will list all the groups on that system, and then give that as a list | 15:39 |
| ebel | that's why you see the 'ubuntu' group there | 15:39 |
| Belserusk | ebel, You explain this very well. | 15:43 |
| czajkowski | ebel: makes a good teacher alright | 15:45 |
| Belserusk | czajkowski, do you use a standard username when you create a Linux VDI? | 15:50 |
| Belserusk | czajkowski, I will cease using the distro name as the username. | 15:50 |
| Belserusk | Later ebel. Bye. | 15:56 |
| ebel | :) | 15:57 |
| airurando | Good evening Ubuntu-ie | 19:16 |
| airurando | Anyone at UH Dublin yet? | 19:16 |
| airurando | I am running a tad late. | 19:17 |
| airurando | Should get there at about 19:45 | 19:17 |
| tdr112 | wont be in tonight i have to give a talk tomorrow on my fyp | 19:27 |
| airurando | tdr112: good luck with that. | 19:31 |
| lau1 | missed my train should have gone for a POTD in Ubuntu hour :( | 20:53 |
| airurando | lau1 not to worry. Always next month. | 21:17 |
| lau1 | missed the train by 10 15 secondes 1hour wait :s | 21:19 |
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