| stgraber | superm1: I guess it depends on how good package descriptions are. From what I saw for Edubuntu, we'll probably have to show the package name for now ... | 00:10 |
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| stgraber | ideally if we could have the .desktop Name value for each package, I'd show that instead | 00:11 |
| superm1 | stgraber, maybe query from the database that's used in software center for short names | 00:48 |
| superm1 | not sure how easy that is to do though | 00:48 |
| JanC | stgraber: isn't changing the description an option? | 01:57 |
| JanC | (I suppose the list of packages for Edubuntu is "limited") | 01:58 |
| stgraber | JanC: well, a good part of them come from Debian and we usually try to reduce our delta rather than increasing it :) But we'll probably end up suggesting new descriptions for some of them | 02:01 |
| JanC | of course these should go back to Debian ☺ | 02:02 |
| JanC | is also what I was thinking about when I said "limited"; going over 50 or 100 descriptions and provide suggestions to upstream is more feasible than going over 30000 description and do the same ;) | 02:07 |
| scott-work | hello...i reported bug 720476 and have attached /var/log/installer/syslog as requested by cjwatson | 13:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 720476 in tasksel "Ubuntu Studio Natty fails to install software when ubuntustudio-video is chosen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720476 | 13:21 |
| scott-work | i believe this to be a RC bug as it causes the installation process to fail if a particular tasksel is choosen | 13:21 |
| scott-work | any help would be greatly appreciated | 13:22 |
| cjwatson | looking | 13:23 |
| CIA-3 | cdebconf: cjwatson * r2336 ubuntu/ (2 files in 2 dirs): | 13:27 |
| CIA-3 | cdebconf: Appease compiler warnings in align_text_renderer_render. (In practice | 13:27 |
| CIA-3 | cdebconf: x_offset and y_offset are never uninitialised here, but knowing that | 13:27 |
| CIA-3 | cdebconf: cjwatson * r2337 ubuntu/debian/control: set Maintainer and Vcs-Bzr for Ubuntu | 13:30 |
| CIA-3 | cdebconf: cjwatson * r2338 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.154ubuntu1 | 13:36 |
| CIA-3 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1414 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): merge lp:~apw/debian-installer/kernel-update | 13:49 |
| CIA-3 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1415 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu17 | 13:56 |
| scott-work | cjwatson: thank you for looking into it, next time i know more what to look for | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | I think it should be possible to work around it in the seeds | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | I'm doing test germinate runs to find out | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | scott-work: so, I mean, the fundamental problem is that you're installing a bunch of packages some of which depend on libavcodec52 | libavcodec-extra-52 (etc.) and some of which just depend on libavcodec-extra-52 | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | and those two alternatives conflict | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | germinate only has limited understanding of all this, and in some cases (particularly if you pick any task based on audio-common), it will end up trying to include both | 14:14 |
| cjwatson | would you be OK with ubuntustudio just always preferring libav*-extra-*, even though those packages are in multiverse? | 14:14 |
| scott-work | cjwatson: hmmm, i think so but i'd not expansively knowledgable, i think i would like persia 's opinion as well if he is available | 14:19 |
| scott-work | from a user's standpoint i think the -extra- packages would be preferable | 14:20 |
| cjwatson | your choice is either that, or avoiding anything that depends only on -extra- | 14:25 |
| cjwatson | which would at least involve dropping dvdstyler | 14:25 |
| cjwatson | scott-work: if you want to use the -extra- variants, then merge lp:~cjwatson/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.natty-ffmpeg | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | you have a merge proposal for it | 14:31 |
| scott-work | cjwatson: i wanted to talk to TheMuso about dropping dvdstyler anyways for various reasons...let me persue this with luke first | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | ok | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | I don't know if it's the only thing at fault | 15:09 |
| ev | cjwatson: what are your thoughts on adding a failure command preseed to main-menu, given bug 72314 ? marjo is asking if there is any way they could catch that with a test harness. | 16:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 72314 in firefox "Unexpected crash" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72314 | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | you mean bug 723148? | 16:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 723148 in debian-installer "Natty server ISO images fail to install" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723148 | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | it's not worth it, I already knew about that by other methods | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | for example it showed up on the archive NBS list | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | IOW we already have automatic systems that detect that | 16:53 |
| ev | indeed, that's what I meant | 16:53 |
| ev | fair enough | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | marjo usually contacts me about these things some hours after I've started fixing them ;-) | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | that particular class of problem anyway (out-of-date kernel) | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | also, given that particular class of problem, CDs likely won't be able to load network modules | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | so a failure hook wouldn't really be able to communicate usefully | 16:54 |
| ev | well, I believe they wanted it so that they could block further tests in their hudson instance, but he's since backed down | 16:55 |
| ev | hudson> http://204.236.234.12/view/ISO-server-Natty/ (as mentioned in the bug) | 16:55 |
| superm1 | ev, that hang that was mentioned the other day while scanning disks i traced back to the reuse partition stuff you added to partman-auto, want me ot assign it to you? | 17:06 |
| ev | please do | 17:07 |
| superm1 | k, bug 722198 | 17:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 722198 in partman-auto "installation hangs on 15reuse w/ blank disk" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722198 | 17:07 |
| ev | thanks | 17:08 |
| om26er | Hi! I have been trying ISOs for last ~2days and the partitioner does not start, just busy cursor | 18:12 |
| cjwatson | ISOs have been broken for the last couple of days | 18:14 |
| cjwatson | should be sorted out soon | 18:14 |
| superm1 | om26er, it's bug 722198 if you want to subscribe to it | 18:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 722198 in partman-auto "installation hangs on 15reuse w/ blank disk" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722198 | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | oh, that's different from what I was thinking of, but OK | 18:48 |
| om26er | superm1, downgrading uniquity brought me to the paritioner but then the installer crashed during the install :/ | 18:48 |
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