[00:10] superm1: I guess it depends on how good package descriptions are. From what I saw for Edubuntu, we'll probably have to show the package name for now ... [00:11] ideally if we could have the .desktop Name value for each package, I'd show that instead [00:48] stgraber, maybe query from the database that's used in software center for short names [00:48] not sure how easy that is to do though [01:57] stgraber: isn't changing the description an option? [01:58] (I suppose the list of packages for Edubuntu is "limited") [02:01] JanC: well, a good part of them come from Debian and we usually try to reduce our delta rather than increasing it :) But we'll probably end up suggesting new descriptions for some of them [02:02] of course these should go back to Debian ☺ [02:07] is also what I was thinking about when I said "limited"; going over 50 or 100 descriptions and provide suggestions to upstream is more feasible than going over 30000 description and do the same ;) [13:21] hello...i reported bug 720476 and have attached /var/log/installer/syslog as requested by cjwatson [13:21] Launchpad bug 720476 in tasksel "Ubuntu Studio Natty fails to install software when ubuntustudio-video is chosen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720476 [13:21] i believe this to be a RC bug as it causes the installation process to fail if a particular tasksel is choosen [13:22] any help would be greatly appreciated [13:23] looking [13:27] cdebconf: cjwatson * r2336 ubuntu/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [13:27] cdebconf: Appease compiler warnings in align_text_renderer_render. (In practice [13:27] cdebconf: x_offset and y_offset are never uninitialised here, but knowing that [13:30] cdebconf: cjwatson * r2337 ubuntu/debian/control: set Maintainer and Vcs-Bzr for Ubuntu [13:36] cdebconf: cjwatson * r2338 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.154ubuntu1 [13:49] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1414 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): merge lp:~apw/debian-installer/kernel-update [13:56] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1415 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu17 [14:09] cjwatson: thank you for looking into it, next time i know more what to look for [14:11] I think it should be possible to work around it in the seeds [14:11] I'm doing test germinate runs to find out [14:13] scott-work: so, I mean, the fundamental problem is that you're installing a bunch of packages some of which depend on libavcodec52 | libavcodec-extra-52 (etc.) and some of which just depend on libavcodec-extra-52 [14:13] and those two alternatives conflict [14:14] germinate only has limited understanding of all this, and in some cases (particularly if you pick any task based on audio-common), it will end up trying to include both [14:14] would you be OK with ubuntustudio just always preferring libav*-extra-*, even though those packages are in multiverse? [14:19] cjwatson: hmmm, i think so but i'd not expansively knowledgable, i think i would like persia 's opinion as well if he is available [14:20] from a user's standpoint i think the -extra- packages would be preferable [14:25] your choice is either that, or avoiding anything that depends only on -extra- [14:25] which would at least involve dropping dvdstyler [14:31] scott-work: if you want to use the -extra- variants, then merge lp:~cjwatson/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.natty-ffmpeg [14:31] you have a merge proposal for it [15:08] cjwatson: i wanted to talk to TheMuso about dropping dvdstyler anyways for various reasons...let me persue this with luke first [15:09] ok [15:09] I don't know if it's the only thing at fault [16:52] cjwatson: what are your thoughts on adding a failure command preseed to main-menu, given bug 72314 ? marjo is asking if there is any way they could catch that with a test harness. [16:52] Launchpad bug 72314 in firefox "Unexpected crash" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72314 [16:53] you mean bug 723148? [16:53] Launchpad bug 723148 in debian-installer "Natty server ISO images fail to install" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723148 [16:53] it's not worth it, I already knew about that by other methods [16:53] for example it showed up on the archive NBS list [16:53] IOW we already have automatic systems that detect that [16:53] indeed, that's what I meant [16:53] fair enough [16:54] marjo usually contacts me about these things some hours after I've started fixing them ;-) [16:54] that particular class of problem anyway (out-of-date kernel) [16:54] also, given that particular class of problem, CDs likely won't be able to load network modules [16:54] so a failure hook wouldn't really be able to communicate usefully [16:55] well, I believe they wanted it so that they could block further tests in their hudson instance, but he's since backed down [16:55] hudson> http://204.236.234.12/view/ISO-server-Natty/ (as mentioned in the bug) [17:06] ev, that hang that was mentioned the other day while scanning disks i traced back to the reuse partition stuff you added to partman-auto, want me ot assign it to you? [17:07] please do [17:07] k, bug 722198 [17:07] Launchpad bug 722198 in partman-auto "installation hangs on 15reuse w/ blank disk" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722198 [17:08] thanks [18:12] Hi! I have been trying ISOs for last ~2days and the partitioner does not start, just busy cursor [18:14] ISOs have been broken for the last couple of days [18:14] should be sorted out soon [18:47] om26er, it's bug 722198 if you want to subscribe to it [18:47] Launchpad bug 722198 in partman-auto "installation hangs on 15reuse w/ blank disk" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722198 [18:48] oh, that's different from what I was thinking of, but OK [18:48] superm1, downgrading uniquity brought me to the paritioner but then the installer crashed during the install :/ === cr3 is now known as 5EXAB9PT4 === CIA-3 is now known as 5EXAB7UKW === cr3_ is now known as cr3