[00:11] <mycosys> can anyone tell me how to remove the recordings from the database, and how to put em back?
[00:17] <mrand> mycosys: http://www.mythbuntu.org/upgrading points the way.
[00:17] <Zinn> [www.mythbuntu.org] Upgrading | Mythbuntu
[00:18] <mycosys> does it point the way to cloning to a second (near identical)  machine without the recordings to do it?
[00:19] <mrand> between that page, and the the mythtv wiki page that it references, I think so.
[00:19] <mrand> If not, the pages need to be improved.
[00:35] <shadow__X> now i have mythbuntu 10.10 installed but now when trying to use componenet output its overtly blue  but the colors are right in bios
[00:53] <mycosys> what video driver are you using?
[00:56] <shadow__X> nvidia
[00:56] <shadow__X> 260
[00:59] <mycosys> should be able to run nvidia-settings and adjust that easily
[01:00] <mycosys> guys - might it be a good idea to put somewhere on the mythbuntu site a recommendation to opt for lts releases?
[01:00] <tgm4883> mycosys, why?
[01:00] <mycosys> the same reason even the devs recommend treating myth as an appliance
[01:01] <mycosys> for most people it should be set up and leave it
[01:01] <tgm4883> I don't say treat it as an appliance
[01:01] <tgm4883> In fact, I say just the opposite
[01:01] <tgm4883> recommending LTS != appliance
[01:01] <tgm4883> I recommend LTS for desktop usage as well
[01:02] <mycosys> lts means that if you do need to change something 1yr or more down the track there will be updates and support
[01:03] <mycosys> ie in my case add a torrentn client
[01:03] <tgm4883> which would contridict an appliance
[01:03] <tgm4883> which is don't touch it after install
[01:03] <mycosys> lot of people do firmware updates on electronic appliances after that sort of time
[01:04] <tgm4883> mycosys, um, no they don't
[01:05] <mycosys> k
[01:05] <tgm4883> some people maybe
[01:05] <tgm4883> but they are in the minority
[01:06] <tgm4883> technical people might, but most others won't
[01:06] <tgm4883> mycosys, in any case, if you can convince a dev to update the site to say LTS recommended, go for it
[01:53] <shadow__X> tgm4883: any experience getting component out from a nvidia card? its a geforce 6150 and the tv is a sony kp-51w510 which has a dvi port but can not for the life of me get working
[06:04] <mycosys> shadow__X still here ? any success with component out?
[06:06] <shadow__X> yeah i tried windows 7 and was having the issue still
[06:06] <shadow__X> low and behold the connection was loose :(
[11:36] <dabblego> hi there, is there a list of packages that mythbuntu comes with on top of ubuntu?
[12:31] <qwebirc17750> hi everybody
[12:33] <qwebirc17750> i am working on a mythbuntu pc, can anybody recommend a technisat sat card working with mythbuntu 10.10 ?
[15:00] <tgm4883> dabblego, not really, you could look at the dependencies of mythbuntu-desktop
[15:00] <tgm4883> dabblego, are you trying to convert your desktop into a mythbuntu system?
[15:05] <adub__> i dont want mythbuntu to start the frontend immediately each time the computer boots up how do i stop this
[15:05] <adub__> also i dont know if anyone has had this problem my wireless network icon in the top right has seemingly disappeared
[17:32] <qwebirc37397> hey
[17:33] <qwebirc37397> Mythbuntu 10.10 Only in intel format at the moment?
[17:33] <adub__> no you can get amd64 i did
[17:37] <adub__> what is the easiest way with mythbuntu xfce interface to get icons on the desktop i am trying to drag from menu but that simply isnt working
[17:37] <adub__> do i have to create from scratch??
[18:15] <qwebirc1208> hello, i need some help about hardware compatibility, i want to set up a mythbuntu media pc and would like to know which hd tv sat card i can use preferable technisat.
[18:15] <rhpot1991> qwebirc1208: you are better asking about that on the mythtv mailing list
[18:16] <rhpot1991> !mailing%
[18:16] <Zinn> The MythTV Users mailing list is located at: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[18:16] <rhpot1991> its hard to get specific hardware support in here unless it is a very common card
[18:17] <qwebirc1208> i thought maybe somebody has some experience cuz of using and setting up
[18:18] <rhpot1991> qwebirc1208: where are you located?
[18:18] <qwebirc1208> Leipzig germany
[18:19] <rhpot1991> I'd try the mailing list or forums
[18:19] <rhpot1991> !forums
[18:19] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[18:21] <qwebirc1208> been searching already for quite some time most answers and hints are about mythbuntu 9.10 i would like to use 10.10 and i read there have been kernel changes
[18:23] <qwebirc1208> i will go for the forums then again thank you ;-)
[18:24] <rhpot1991> qwebirc1208: try posting a new topic asking for a card recomendation
[18:24] <rhpot1991> unfortunately most of us in here are US based so we don't know about your cards over there
[18:25] <qwebirc1208> most of them seem alike like technisat skymaster card for example
[18:27] <rhpot1991> here in the US for satelite you would use a hd-pvr and captuer the component output
[18:29] <qwebirc1208> ok, well thanks for your help. i will search my way through then
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[23:02] <jbehmer1> does anyone know why i would not be able to do a channel scan while in the mythtv-setup interface?? i have a hauppauge bt878 capture card with input coming to the TV coax port, and xawtv verifies that i can view NTSC channels
[23:03] <jbehmer1> i am also getting a strange error: "connection DBManager0 is still in use, all queries will cease to work." when i exit out of mythtv-setup. not sure if this is related
[23:04] <gregL> jbehmer1, what are you using for a source for epg data?
[23:04] <jbehmer1> gregL, what is epg data? im quite new to this actually
[23:04] <rhpot1991> listings
[23:05] <gregL> what he said
[23:06] <jbehmer1> that would be in video sources correct? i havent been able to set that up, because when i add one it doesnt show up in the list
[23:07] <gregL> Yes, we use schedule direct to get the epg data..
[23:08] <gregL> It's $20 a year..Pretty cheap..
[23:09] <rhpot1991> there is a few week trial still I think too
[23:09] <rhpot1991> so you can try it out first
[23:09] <jbehmer1> ah, i see. is there any free alternative i can use. im just trying this out on my desktop to decide if i should buy a new HTPC
[23:09] <jbehmer1> oh i see
[23:09] <gregL> They have a trila period..
[23:09] <gregL> trial even
[23:09] <rhpot1991> that said, you should be able to scan without it, but its much easier to just pull your listing data from there
[23:10] <rhpot1991> s/listing/channel/
[23:10] <jbehmer1> okay, let me set one up and ill see if that works
[23:11] <gregL> jbehmer1, When you do,don't scan..Use fetch from source..
[23:12] <jbehmer1> okay, will do
[23:13] <gregL> jbehmer1, I see you are in the nycap area..I am also..
[23:14] <jbehmer1> oh cool, yep I go to school up here
[23:14] <gregL> No I live here..
[23:14] <gregL> Saratoga
[23:14] <mycosys> jbehmer - just a note - dont judge performance based on using that card - it will need MANY times the cpu power of a cheap digital tuner to use
[23:15] <mycosys> *jbehmer1
[23:15] <jbehmer1> haha, I found it in an old computer somebody was getting rid of so I don't have very high expectations :-p
[23:16] <mycosys> an old computer like a 1ghz machine can often handle 3 digital tuners and SD playback
[23:16] <mycosys> was doing 3 digital tuners and HD playback on a 1.8GHz sempron and GT210
[23:18] <jbehmer1> oh wow thats not too bad, i have an amd dual core in this 2.8 ghz i think, so hopefully it will do fine despite the card
[23:19] <mycosys> will be bogged down
[23:20] <mycosys> prolly handle 2 or 3 tuners max, might handle playback
[23:20] <mycosys> from experience, analog tuners are pita
[23:20] <mycosys> for a digital tuner all the machine does is take data from the tuner and write it to the disk, zero processing
[23:21] <mycosys> can  get analog cards that do the encoding too - so they are good, but analog will be switched off soon
[23:23] <mycosys> anyway - all my point was is it will go much better with a better tuner, they are cheap
[23:23] <jbehmer1> right, yeah. i was surprised last night when i hooked an antenna in and was picking up a couple channels. they must have been analog ones right? i didnt even know this card was analog but did some research on it to find out it was a hauppauge bt878
[23:23] <mycosys> brooktree/conexant878
[23:23] <jbehmer1> i thought they got rid of analog in the US last year or year before
[23:23] <mycosys> lol
[23:23] <mycosys> i did too
[23:24] <mycosys> we still have it here, but not for long
[23:24] <jbehmer1> haha yeah
[23:25] <jbehmer1> okay the activation email finally came through for schedules direct. let me try this
[23:26] <mycosys> $40-50 or so will get a decent tuner normally
[23:28] <jbehmer1> wow, you know i was looking on newegg 2 days ago and the cheapest i could find with hardware encoding was $109
[23:28] <jbehmer1> hauppauge ones that is
[23:31] <jbehmer1> so, i put in my username and pw, now just click finish?? theres a checkbox for EIT scan and a button for retrieve lineups, but nothing for fetch from source on this window
[23:50] <jbehmer1> i figured out how to add the video source, but when i try to set the input source, clicking "fetch channels from listings source" doesnt do anything. anyone know why?? im just using my keyboard and arrow keys, no IR