[00:04] <cyberanger> hey vychune_
[00:05] <vychune> how u doing
[00:06] <cyberanger> vychune_: good
[00:06] <cyberanger> and you?
[00:07] <vychune> good at work
[00:08] <vychune> u seen linuxman?
[00:12] <cyberanger> not lately
[14:46] <wrst> morning Xpistos
[14:46] <Xpistos> what up homie
[14:46] <Xpistos> why can't wordpress just make sense to me
[15:09] <cyberanger> Xpistos: <html><head><body>why can't wordpress just make sense to me?</body></head></html>
[15:09] <cyberanger> ;-)
[15:10] <cyberanger>  <html><head><body>who knows</body></head></html>
[15:10] <Xpistos> lol
[15:14] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what is the actual issue
[15:14] <Xpistos> I want to take posts from the "Comics" category and publish them automoatically in the Comics page
[15:14] <Xpistos> but
[15:15] <Xpistos> without the word ARCHIVE in the header
[15:15] <Xpistos> noob posted an article about DMZ today and I want to make sure how it gets posted
[15:33] <cyberanger> hrm, don't think I've ever seen that happen
[15:33] <cyberanger> for wordpress at least
[15:56] <Juzzy> handy *nix script: http://juzzycode.blogspot.com/2011/02/linux-security-wrapper.html
[16:00] <Xpistos> Wow Juzzy, that guy has the same name as you@
[16:10] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what are the odds of that? ;-)
[16:11] <Xpistos> I know, right
[16:22] <Juzzy> hah
[16:22] <Juzzy> just sharing crap
[16:25] <cyberanger> Juzzy: thanks, it's very intresting (your words here) crap
[16:25] <cyberanger> ;-)
[16:46] <cyberanger> Juzzy: really, it's intresting
[18:28] <vychune_> o/
[18:28] <vychune_> got a mac mini 170
[18:28] <vychune_>   \O/
[18:30]  * cyberanger hands vychune_ an ubuntu install disc
[18:33] <vychune_> got one in the mail last week
[18:33] <vychune_> maverick
[18:34] <vychune_> how are you this morning
[18:34]  * cyberanger hands vychune_ another install disc, and a list of uses for it, A) fix a mac ;-)
[18:34] <vychune_> lol
[18:35] <cyberanger> vychune_: doing well this afternoon, how about you
[18:35] <vychune_> good as this sale is going now in a min
[18:35] <vychune_> down even
[18:35] <vychune_> lol
[18:35] <cyberanger> :-D
[18:37] <vychune_> gtg
[18:37] <vychune_> later
[19:14] <starsprout> howdy folks
[19:14] <starsprout> rainy and cool in Memphis :-)
[19:16] <starsprout> anyone know anything about external Seagate HD with NTFS partition errors? I can't write to it today
[19:16] <starsprout> running testdisk now
[19:22] <cyberanger> NTFS errors are a bit rare here
[19:22] <starsprout> When I started using the disk for backup I was running Windows XP
[19:22] <starsprout> Now I've only been writing to it with Ubuntu
[19:23]  * starsprout wondering if I should connect it to my one Windows machine
[19:23] <starsprout> even testdisk eventually loaded the error "unable to mount"
[19:23] <starsprout> and gparted shows errors on it too
[19:23] <starsprout> sigh
[19:23] <wrst> starsprout: what error do you get?
[19:25] <starsprout> http://pastebin.com/hkW5qA22
[19:29] <starsprout> does fsck or e2fsck work on an NTFS partition?
[19:29]  * starsprout thinking I should change my name to n00b
[19:31] <wrst> starsprout: have you tried what it said to do from within windows?
[19:31] <starsprout> no. I'll do that now :-)
[19:31] <wrst> probably where i woudl start :)
[19:32] <wrst> and then if i could I would reformat the drive to ext3/4 :)
[19:33] <starsprout> yeah except I'm using it already as backup for ~500G
[19:33] <wrst> got anyplace you can dump that data ?
[19:36] <starsprout> yeah, another seagate ntfs external disk :-(
[19:36]  * starsprout shakes his fist at Microsoft
[19:37] <wrst> I use ext4 attached to my server and have no issue and use samba to share with winders
[19:52] <starsprout> speaking of my (dual boot) windows machine, any idea why the keyboard won't work in ubuntu (but works fine in windows)?
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e12000.m43.l1123/7?euid=f5fe5094a16f40b5b3aa162d5f01db09&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D110653228305%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A1123
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> wow huge link
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> wrst, I heard u were the coolest guy in here
[20:01] <xTEMPLARx> bet this link is more sane:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110653228305&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123
[20:01] <xTEMPLARx> yup
[20:01] <xTEMPLARx> grr
[20:01] <wrst> what type of keyboard starsprout?
[20:01] <wrst> hey xTEMPLARx i doubt that :)
[20:04] <starsprout> it's a compaq laptop
[20:05] <starsprout> one day suddenly ubuntu keyboard doesnt respond - can't even login
[20:06] <starsprout> like I said - works fine in windows though
[20:06] <xTEMPLARx> and it doesn't work at all?  not a single key?
[20:06] <starsprout> neither mouse nor keys
[20:06] <starsprout> grub keys work (up/down)
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> well it doesn't sound like a keyboard TYPE messup
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> coz then you'd probably see SOMETHING out of it
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> can you get to console, or does that not work either?
[20:07] <xTEMPLARx> ctl-alt-2 that is
[20:08] <starsprout> ctl-alt-2 from the login splash screen?
[20:08] <starsprout> or from right after GRUB?
[20:08] <xTEMPLARx> from the login screen
[20:08] <xTEMPLARx> i'm assuming you have a GUI-based login, and not a console one
[20:08] <starsprout> yes gui
[20:09] <starsprout> will try in a moment (in windows right now completing updates)
[20:09] <xTEMPLARx> if that DOES work, ctrl-alt-7 or ctrl-alt-8 will bring it back to the GUI screen
[20:10] <starsprout> ok - at spalsh screen ctrl-alt-2 does nothing.
[20:10] <starsprout> even capslock and numlock don't work
[20:10] <starsprout> (same with "recovery mode")
[20:11] <wrst> starsprout: do you have an xorg.conf file?
[20:11] <starsprout> probably (did I mention it's kubuntu?)
[20:12] <starsprout> I'm wondering if there's an setting in GRUB I can try
[20:12] <starsprout> like disable acpi or something
[20:14] <xTEMPLARx> that I don't know, but one thing you COULD do, is disable the splash at boot... edit the boot line for the kernel you like to boot from, and get rid of the splash business at the end of the line
[20:14] <xTEMPLARx> it should cause it to boot while showing you all the stuff going on during boot
[20:14] <xTEMPLARx> SO
[20:15] <xTEMPLARx> if there's an error somewhere with the keyboard PRIOR to getting to the GUI, you may catch a glimpse
[20:15]  * xTEMPLARx is grasping at straws 
[20:16]  * starsprout lol
[20:17] <starsprout> I'm gonna try to get this external drive fixed, back up my files, then re-install :-)
[20:17] <wrst> starsprout: a reinstall shouldn't be necessary
[20:18] <starsprout> alright I believe it, but one thing at a time because right now I'm using Windows to look at the Seagate...(which is working, btw - hooray!)
[20:18] <wrst> starsprout: what version of ubuntu ?
[20:18] <wrst> or kubuntu?
[20:18] <starsprout> I wanna say version 4.xx
[20:19] <starsprout> Installed it about 10 months ago
[20:19] <xTEMPLARx> 10.04
[20:19] <xTEMPLARx> ?
[20:19] <wrst> 10.04?
[20:19] <starsprout> duh yes 10.04 64-bit
[20:20] <starsprout> heh
[20:20] <wrst> and its kubuntu starsprout?
[20:20] <wrst> or ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop?
[20:21] <wrst> what i'm getting at is that you are using KDM?
[20:21] <starsprout> it's a full kubuntu 10.04 64-bit install
[20:21] <starsprout> KDE
[20:21] <starsprout> (I love it)
[20:21] <wrst> ahh well kde is your problem obviously
[20:21] <wrst> :)
[20:21] <starsprout> yah it's a KDE splash screen
[20:22] <wrst> does the mouse work?
[20:22] <starsprout> but it all worked fine for 10 months (the onboard mouse pad does not work - haven't tried an extension mouse)
[20:22] <starsprout> wouldn't matter if mouse worked anyway, I can't type anything
[20:23] <wrst> no that helps out, you could try using the recovery boot up and then startx from the cli and see if that matters
[20:24] <starsprout> with an external mouse?
[20:27] <wrst> no from the console starsprout
[20:28] <wrst> with a sudo startx command
[20:28] <starsprout> oh with a boot disk
[20:28] <starsprout> ok hang on
[20:28] <wrst> no starsprout one of the boot options is a recovery option
[20:28] <starsprout> oh! ok...
[20:28] <wrst> i'm wondering if the problem could be with KDM
[20:28] <starsprout> booting into recovermode
[20:29] <starsprout> it stops after attaching scsi disk - just sits there
[20:29] <starsprout> (I've tried recovery mode before)
[20:30] <starsprout> ctrl-alt-2 nothing. all f-keys, nothing.
[20:31] <wrst> starsprout:  did you select recovery mode at the grub screen?
[20:31] <starsprout> yes
[20:31] <wrst> oh sorry i didn't read well
[20:31] <wrst> no login screen?
[20:31] <wrst> terminal login screen
[20:32] <xTEMPLARx> when you're at the KDM screen, do you see the usual stuff where you'd click or type?
[20:32] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: he shouldn't have hit KDM in recovery should he unless kubunt is on crack? :)
[20:32] <xTEMPLARx> i have a machine (this one) that sometimes "hangs" on teh Gnome login, and I have to hit C to continue some process that's underneath
[20:34] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: have you tried natty out?
[20:34] <xTEMPLARx> not fairly
[20:35] <wrst> its certainly a work in progress
[20:35] <wrst> starsprout: any luck ?
[20:35] <starsprout> no luck
[20:36] <wrst> so you hung at trying to boot up?
[20:36] <starsprout> xTEMPLARx, yes, I see the normal login screen and graphics
[20:36] <wrst> starsprout: tried booting using an older kernel from grub?
[20:36] <starsprout> yeah tried that too
[20:37] <wrst> starsprout: i might be tempted to check and see if i had an xorg.conf file if i did i would rename it and try booting without it
[20:37] <wrst> as a quick attempt at something
[20:37] <starsprout> yeah, older kernels hang after the scsi disk attach too
[20:38] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: shoudln't that be done ^^ by the time he gets to KDM?
[20:38] <starsprout> booting now with ubuntu startup disk
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> yeah, it SHOULD be beyond attaching to disks by the time KDM arrives
[20:43] <wrst> but xTEMPLARx as you know anything related to KDE can really be a mess :)
[20:43]  * wrst shouldn't make fun of starsprout when he is down
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> KDM has some great ideas in the way things look
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> i just had a problem with how it accessed (or rather, didn't) my samba shares via the file manager
[20:46] <xTEMPLARx> it kept me from being able to use it here at work
[20:47] <starsprout> :D
[20:48] <starsprout> I don't know where to begin with this boot disk
[20:48] <wrst> yeah xTEMPLARx kde looks great but functionaly its just a big turd for me
[20:48] <wrst> starsprout: does it work?
[20:48] <starsprout> I'm "trying ubuntu" now and it's loading
[20:48] <starsprout> the mouse and keyboard are responsive
[20:49] <xTEMPLARx> so we know its possible
[20:49] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[20:49] <wrst> starsprout: see if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf on your kubuntu partition
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> i don't believe they use xorg.conf anymore
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> deprecated n such
[20:50] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: no, but if you use nvidia drivers or ati they create one
[20:50] <starsprout> how do I mount the internal disk?
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> ah so
[20:51] <xTEMPLARx> it should show up under your PLACES menu
[20:51] <wrst> just go to places and clicke it
[20:51] <starsprout> :-)
[20:52] <wrst> starsprout: what type of video card do you have?
[20:52] <starsprout> there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[20:52] <wrst> ok cancel what i thought starsprout that's as it should be
[20:52] <starsprout> it's an ATI Mobility Radeon according to lspci
[20:53] <wrst> ok you ever installed drivers for it? i'm guessing not since the open ones work decent enough
[20:54] <starsprout> I might have installed them in KDE, but then there would be a xorg.conf file wouldn't there
[20:55] <wrst> to cause the issue i'm thinking it would have
[20:55] <wrst> what model is the laptop?
[21:01] <Xpistos> Stupid Windows 7 update
[21:01] <starsprout> it's a compaq... is there a command to learn the model number with bash?
[21:02] <wrst> doubtful starsprout
[21:10] <xTEMPLARx> model number should be printed on one of the labels on the bottom
[21:12] <starsprout> Presario CQ81
[21:12] <starsprout> is there a way to login to the KDE user with a boot disk?
[21:16] <starsprout> dang - I can't even see the files because it's ecryptfs
[21:17] <xTEMPLARx> that'll learn ye!
[21:17] <xTEMPLARx> all the time encrypting yer files
[21:18] <starsprout> :-) this was the first time I ever tried, on this here box. #fail
[21:18] <starsprout> lol
[21:18] <starsprout> it won't accept the login passphrase
[21:20] <xTEMPLARx> hrm
[21:25] <starsprout> fun.
[21:25] <starsprout> there's gotta be a way to get back into KDE
[21:28] <wrst> i just don't have any files that are that important
[21:28] <wrst> starsprout: its a sign, KDE hates you ;)
[21:29] <wrst> hmm you could loginto a root shell and install gnome
[21:29] <wrst> but that's not the most desierable thing to do
[21:31] <starsprout> how can I login to root from grub? if I get in there I can at least access my home directory I think
[21:31] <xTEMPLARx> well, grub just dictates boot params
[21:32] <xTEMPLARx> i think the trick is, you need to boot up in a different runlevel, and one which doesn't boot to KDE by default
[21:32] <wrst> starsprout: you would want to use the recovery console, but that doesn't seem to be working...
[21:32] <xTEMPLARx> assuming KDE is the problem
[21:32] <xTEMPLARx> and not something else underlying
[21:32] <wrst> starsprout: you have a usb keyboard and mouse?
[21:32] <wrst> yes and it could be something else as much as i wish to blame it on kde
[21:33] <starsprout> booting grub with "noacpi" did nothing :-(
[22:11] <starsprout> oh well I give up for now (kubuntu channel no help either)
[22:11] <starsprout> thanks y'all for your help! :-)