| inetpro | good morning | 06:01 |
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| * nlsthzn waves | 06:09 | |
| maiatoday | o/ | 06:11 |
| nlsthzn | cheers for eers :p | 07:05 |
| afrodeity | maaz: fresh coffee please | 07:11 |
| Maaz | afrodeity: Excuse me? | 07:11 |
| afrodeity | maaz: put some coffee on | 07:11 |
| Maaz | afrodeity: Sorry... | 07:11 |
| afrodeity | afrodeity: what happened, you joined a union? | 07:12 |
| afrodeity | maaz: what happened, you joined a union: | 07:12 |
| Maaz | afrodeity: Sorry... | 07:12 |
| afrodeity | maaz: understandable, I would be sorry too | 07:12 |
| Maaz | afrodeity: Got it | 07:12 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and everyone else | 07:46 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 07:55 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: tell me about your MBR problems | 08:32 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: you say there are no linux tools to fix it | 08:32 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: but grub writes to the MBR | 08:33 |
| Kilos | sorry linuxboy was busy cleaning onions | 08:33 |
| Kilos | grub links to the mbr as far as i understand | 08:34 |
| Kilos | the basic mbr is in machine code | 08:34 |
| linuxboy | erm | 08:34 |
| linuxboy | no | 08:34 |
| Kilos | winsucks xp has a mbr and boot repair tool on the cd in recovery mode | 08:35 |
| Kilos | but then it locks it and it isnt ubuntu friendly | 08:35 |
| linuxboy | thats because windows installs its own boot loader into the MBR | 08:36 |
| Kilos | i used a live cd to look at what was on the boot sector and was lotsa ms stuff with locks on | 08:36 |
| linuxboy | can you explain that please? | 08:37 |
| Kilos | ok | 08:37 |
| Kilos | here goes | 08:37 |
| Kilos | i used ubuntu live cd to open the drive and in hd0 id0 was some msoft files with locks showing | 08:38 |
| linuxboy | whats a lock? | 08:38 |
| Kilos | padlock | 08:39 |
| Kilos | picdture of a padlock on | 08:39 |
| Kilos | picture | 08:39 |
| linuxboy | so there is a picture of a padlock in your MBR? | 08:39 |
| Kilos | on some of the files | 08:39 |
| linuxboy | which files? | 08:40 |
| Kilos | there are maybe 10 files in there | 08:40 |
| Kilos | i forget but win stuff | 08:40 |
| linuxboy | i think you don't understand what an MBR is | 08:40 |
| Kilos | when the drive packs up again i will write them down | 08:40 |
| Kilos | yes its the first sector of the drive | 08:41 |
| Kilos | hd0 ID0 sector0 | 08:41 |
| Kilos | 512kB | 08:42 |
| linuxboy | so why don't you back it up and restore it when your drive breaks? | 08:42 |
| linuxboy | (512 bytes btw) | 08:42 |
| Kilos | i dunno how to do that without using the ubcd and i get lost on that too | 08:43 |
| Kilos | oh yes ty | 08:43 |
| linuxboy | 07:48 < Kilos> but no linux tool specifically for repairing it | 08:43 |
| linuxboy | there are tools for that | 08:43 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:43 |
| Kilos | pray tell | 08:43 |
| linuxboy | in fact, grub writes to the MBR | 08:44 |
| Kilos | yes if there is a good mbr there first | 08:44 |
| linuxboy | no, grub lives *in* the mbr | 08:45 |
| Kilos | it looks like it is split mbr and boot | 08:45 |
| Kilos | with the xp recovery mode you have to tell it fixmbr and fixboot | 08:46 |
| Kilos | without the fixboot you cant install ubuntu alongside even | 08:46 |
| linuxboy | what does fixboot do? | 08:46 |
| Kilos | and i dont want windows near me | 08:47 |
| Kilos | fixboot writes a new boot sector | 08:47 |
| Kilos | fixmbr writes a new mbr | 08:47 |
| Kilos | i am sure they are apart from each other with links between them | 08:48 |
| Kilos | i am not sure if links is the right word. maybe bindings or hooks | 08:50 |
| linuxboy | have you tried just reinstall grub? | 08:53 |
| Kilos | yip | 08:56 |
| linuxboy | and...? | 08:56 |
| Kilos | if i remeber correctly it actually says unable to write to mbr | 08:56 |
| linuxboy | does it give you an error code? | 08:57 |
| Kilos | yeah but i didnt write that down | 08:57 |
| Kilos | will next time | 08:57 |
| Kilos | 135 or something | 08:57 |
| Kilos | i dont remember well | 08:57 |
| linuxboy | did you run fdisk to see if the partition table was intact? | 08:58 |
| Kilos | i did fdisk from windows 98 | 08:59 |
| linuxboy | linux fdisk | 08:59 |
| linuxboy | windows fdisk isn't cool | 08:59 |
| Kilos | it said no os installed | 08:59 |
| Kilos | i need to learn the linux one still | 08:59 |
| linuxboy | try that out first | 08:59 |
| Kilos | but i did fdisk /mbr from 98 and now got ubuntu installed | 09:00 |
| linuxboy | i think the problem you're having can be fixed with grub/fdisk | 09:00 |
| Kilos | so now ubuntu has install grub to where it must go | 09:00 |
| Kilos | i will try that next time | 09:01 |
| Kilos | where can i find the linux fdisk commands | 09:01 |
| linuxboy | if you strggle with fdisk, try cfdisk | 09:01 |
| Kilos | man fdisk? | 09:01 |
| linuxboy | have you tried that? | 09:01 |
| Kilos | i think i did try cfdisk but i lost in the use of it because i dont know what to enter then | 09:02 |
| Kilos | same as initsys there a list of commands in help but i dont see install there or mbr or grub | 09:03 |
| linuxboy | I'm struggling to understand what you're saying | 09:04 |
| linuxboy | remember that windows and linux are different | 09:06 |
| linuxboy | fdisk in windows can install teh windows bootloader | 09:06 |
| linuxboy | but in linux you have to use the bootloader of your choice to install it | 09:06 |
| linuxboy | bah | 09:06 |
| Kilos | sorry linuxboy xchat crashed. thats why i am trying to get the other drive going again | 09:28 |
| linuxboy | what does xchat crashing have to do with your drive? | 09:28 |
| froztbyte | that's two statements that he just had side-by-side | 09:29 |
| linuxboy | ah | 09:29 |
| froztbyte | "<reason for disappearance>, <what I was trying to accomplish>" | 09:29 |
| Kilos | its something in karmic thats letting apps crash on and off | 09:30 |
| Kilos | lol hi froztbyte | 09:30 |
| froztbyte | \o | 09:31 |
| Kilos | i am not sure if its bindings or what but even evolution and pidgin disappear as well | 09:31 |
| Kilos | i looked all over at the bugs in launchpad i think but cant get it to stop crashing | 09:31 |
| Kilos | update manager and synaptic do it as well | 09:32 |
| linuxboy | i doubt it is teh problem, but have you run a memory test? | 09:32 |
| Kilos | must i do that from the live cd? | 09:33 |
| linuxboy | yeah | 09:33 |
| linuxboy | or reboot | 09:33 |
| linuxboy | its in the grub menu | 09:33 |
| linuxboy | its worth a try | 09:33 |
| Kilos | how do i stop booting at the grub menu | 09:33 |
| Kilos | even in recovery mode | 09:33 |
| Kilos | i need to pull the power 3 or 4 times to get there | 09:34 |
| === cocooncrash_ is now known as cocooncrash | ||
| marcog | spam on the ML :( | 13:16 |
| marcog | defaul ff 4 theme how has dark tabs :( | 13:30 |
| marcog | makes most favicons look odd | 13:31 |
| nlsthzn | had a lol on the mailing list... is it possible someone is using windows :p | 13:55 |
| marcog | "Now using Ubuntu Linux Desktop 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat"" | 13:58 |
| Symmetria | ULLO! | 13:59 |
| Symmetria | who's awake | 13:59 |
| Owkkuri | OLLO Symmetria | 13:59 |
| * Symmetria has been drinking cachaa all night | 13:59 | |
| * Symmetria is slightly wasted and highly recommends that as a good drink | 14:00 | |
| Symmetria | :P | 14:00 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 14:05 |
| nlsthzn | I have been all over OS wise again... but as pretty and awesome as KDE 4.6 is neiter 10.10 or openSUSE 11.4 works without isues :( | 14:06 |
| nlsthzn | so now I am rocking kubuntu 10.04 for the first time... feel so old school :p | 14:06 |
| * Symmetria recommends os-x | 14:06 | |
| Symmetria | :P | 14:07 |
| nlsthzn | :) Symmetria is drunk so we excuse him :p | 14:11 |
| marcog | we'll start to worry when he recommends windows 3.1 | 14:12 |
| Symmetria | nlsthzn heh, os-x is just bsd with a nicer frontend anyway | 14:18 |
| nlsthzn | Symmetria: ... that costs an arm and a leg and won't run on just any old hardware... plus PC-BSD's KDE offering is prettier ;) | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | umm arm and a leg? 250 bux? :P | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | and will run on most desktop pcs Ive used it on if you know how :P | 14:20 |
| nlsthzn | sounds like $250 to much | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | hey you get what you pay for :P | 14:23 |
| nlsthzn | ah, guess that is why I use Kubuntu :p | 14:24 |
| Symmetria | heh, ubuntu makes an awesome server | 14:26 |
| Symmetria | and I love my linux servers | 14:26 |
| Symmetria | I just dont happen to believe they have yet to make a decent desktop :) | 14:26 |
| nlsthzn | guys that is something each user has to decide for themselves | 14:29 |
| Symmetria | *grin* I know Im just stirring dude | 14:29 |
| Symmetria | life is more fun with a big wooden spoon :) | 14:29 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 14:33 |
| nlsthzn | just had a lol at the reply on the mailing list, lee is pretty funny :D | 14:33 |
| Symmetria | ARGHHHHH | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | Cisco needs to be shot | 15:26 |
| froztbyte | yup | 15:31 |
| calijames | WAZZZZA | 15:42 |
| calijames | anyone here? | 15:42 |
| calijames | um | 15:43 |
| confluency | A couple of people, yes. | 15:44 |
| calijames | oh | 15:44 |
| calijames | so , like people leave these open all day? | 15:45 |
| calijames | and don't type? | 15:45 |
| confluency | Yup. | 15:45 |
| calijames | sorry, i am new to this irc thing | 15:45 |
| confluency | It's not quite the same model as IM. | 15:45 |
| calijames | so can i have a friends list or something | 15:45 |
| calijames | i know. | 15:45 |
| calijames | but it's cooler. | 15:45 |
| confluency | Not really, although there may be ways of getting notified when certain people join the server. I've never attempted that. | 15:46 |
| confluency | In general everything revolves around these permanent "rooms". | 15:46 |
| confluency | You can also make temporary rooms if you want, but people don't often do that. | 15:46 |
| calijames | i just had de ja vu | 15:47 |
| calijames | weird | 15:47 |
| calijames | hi | 15:49 |
| FrenchGirl | Hello | 16:09 |
| FrenchGirl | Anyone here? | 16:09 |
| * nlsthzn lurks | 16:09 | |
| FrenchGirl | Hello how are you? | 16:10 |
| nlsthzn | I am ok... how are you? | 16:11 |
| FrenchGirl | Fine thanks | 16:11 |
| FrenchGirl | Are you from South Africa? | 16:11 |
| nlsthzn | I am... and you? | 16:14 |
| FrenchGirl | I'm from France | 16:16 |
| FrenchGirl | In which city are you in SA? | 16:16 |
| FrenchGirl | :) | 16:16 |
| * nlsthzn wonders what FrenchGirl is doing on channel #ubuntu-za? | 16:17 | |
| FrenchGirl | Hum | 16:17 |
| FrenchGirl | I know a guy living in Cape Town ... | 16:17 |
| FrenchGirl | and studying there as well | 16:18 |
| nlsthzn | Cool... | 16:19 |
| FrenchGirl | Are you also in Cape Town? | 16:19 |
| nlsthzn | Nope | 16:21 |
| FrenchGirl | Sorry for disturbing | 16:22 |
| nlsthzn | np... SA is a very hugh country with +- 50 million people ;) | 16:23 |
| FrenchGirl | Hallo hoe gaan dit? | 16:23 |
| FrenchGirl | :D | 16:23 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 16:25 |
| FrenchGirl | Praat jy Engels? | 16:26 |
| FrenchGirl | :P | 16:26 |
| nlsthzn | bilingual | 16:32 |
| nlsthzn | btw, just stumbled apon http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/ ... looks pretty interesting | 16:32 |
| FrenchGirl | What's that? | 16:33 |
| nlsthzn | lol, just a link that some peeps on this channel might enjoy... | 16:34 |
| Morganvd | evening all | 16:42 |
| FrenchGirl | Hello | 16:42 |
| Kilos | evening all | 17:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 17:14 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 17:14 | |
| * Kilos wonders where inetpro is | 17:14 | |
| * nlsthzn waves at Kilos | 17:15 | |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 17:15 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 17:15 |
| Kilos | :-) | 17:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:16 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 17:18 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias amigo | 17:19 |
| Maaz | ¡de nada compadre | 17:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm here | 19:17 |
| inetpro | but perhaps just for the moment | 19:17 |
| inetpro | wind and thunderstorm might kill the connection | 19:18 |
| inetpro | hmm... there goes kil[tab] already | 19:18 |
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