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didrocksgood morning07:53
oSoMoNgood morning08:04
kvalokamstrup: good morning. sorry to bother you again, but can you do review again? https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/settings-tech-control/+merge/5097208:10
kvalokamstrup: andy already reviewed it, so you can just take a quick peek.08:11
kamstrupkvalo: i don't have time right now - but maybe you can run over some of the reviews Ted requested?08:11
kamstrupkvalo: ok - maybe in an hour or so08:11
kvalokamstrup: ok, I can ask ronoc as well. no worries.08:11
kamstrupkvalo: i'm just taking some heat for some place issues an I urgently need to address them08:11
kvalokamstrup: I'll go through ted's reviews08:12
kvalokamstrup: yeah, I'm can imagine the heat08:12
MacSlowgreetings everybody08:15
kvaloronoc: morning. if you have time, can you check this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/settings-tech-control/+merge/5097208:59
ronockvalo, sure09:02
kvaloronoc: thanks09:03
ronockvalo, all good done09:10
kamstrupdidrocks: ! a libzeitgeist release! https://launchpad.net/libzeitgeist/0.3/0.3.4 This time without the gio module - and this release is rather critical as it fixes a data corruption bug with the zg09:10
kvaloronoc: excellent, thanks09:11
didrockskamstrup: thanks, trying to get everything together09:11
didrockskamstrup: does it work with the current zg natty stack?09:11
kamstrupdidrocks: yups09:11
didrockskamstrup: do you have a bug list of what it fixes?09:16
kamstrupdidrocks: meh, if only I could target bugs to closed milestones then I could whip you up a nice LP report :-S09:19
didrockskamstrup: I have a script doing that09:19
didrockskamstrup: but yeah, just for now, give me the list of bugs please :)09:20
didrocks(looking at the commits as well)09:20
kamstrupdidrocks: it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/libzeitgeist/+bug/724199 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/libzeitgeist/+bug/71847209:22
didrockskamstrup: excellent, thanks!09:23
didrockskamstrup: should I just restart the places + make a search to check everything is ok?09:23
kamstrupdidrocks: something like that - you may wanna manually kill and run the files place so you can tail stdout09:24
didrockskamstrup: ok09:24
kamstrupronoc: hey - hows the sound stuff coming along?09:25
kamstrupronoc: didrocks is going to a very scarce resource today so we need to cut the release of libunity very early today09:25
didrockskamstrup: I need to upload the place to remove libzeitgeist-gio as a dep09:25
ronockamstrup, good, haven't done anything since last night, just going through bugs09:25
ronockamstrup, cool will look at it right away09:25
didrockskamstrup: but the places needs new libunity as well :)09:26
didrocksit's official, today will be "awesome"09:26
kamstrupdidrocks: exactly - i'll just quickly check with ronoc if we'll land the soundmenu API today or we're gonna have to punt it for next week09:27
didrocksexcellent :)09:27
kamstrupdidrocks: look at the bright side - if you survive today you can do some serious slacking off tomorrow - assuming that we haven't broken everything of course ;-)09:27
didrockskamstrup: ahah, if I have nothing to do tomorrow, I'll be start looking finally at Alt + F2 :)09:28
didrocksstarting*09:28
didrockskamstrup: hum, if we remove the gio module without getting the new datahub, there is no worry then?09:30
kamstrupdidrocks: it only means we wont log app popularity until we have the new datahub09:34
kamstrupdidrocks: so a slightly wrong result set for popular apps, but that's a it09:34
didrockskamstrup: ok, I understood all of your stack correctly then \o/ sounds good for a transition*09:35
kamstrupdidrocks: yes09:35
didrockskamstrup: ok, libzg ready to be pushed09:47
htorqueMacSlow: hello, should the super key overlays for the places icons already show anything? they are empty here.10:24
MacSlowhtorque, wait for the release... the stuff for the places superkey-overlays will be part of that10:26
htorqueMacSlow, ok, will do, thanks10:26
MacSlowhtorque, last evening I finished that and only pushed this morning10:27
MacSlowhey iainfarrell10:36
htorqueMacSlow, oh, so it should be in trunk then (because that's what i'm testing)? i see 1..0, 'w', and 't', but the places' overlay is empty10:36
iainfarrellMacSlow: hey10:37
MacSlowhtorque, you mean "applications" and "files" ?!10:37
htorqueMacSlow, yes10:37
MacSlowhtorque, they get their label from /usr/share/unity/place/<bla>.place10:37
MacSlowhtorque, if there's not entry Shortcut=x in section [Entry:Files] nothing will show10:38
MacSlowhtorque, if you want to try now just add them yourself10:39
MacSlowhtorque, but be reminded that those are meant to be coming from localized .place files10:39
htorqueMacSlow, thanks, adding the shortcut key worked - i was just wondering if it currently should show anything at all :)10:40
htorqueMacSlow, talking about localization - it doesn't seem to accept umlauts (english system, german keyboard layout)10:46
htorqueworth a bug report or just not yet done?10:47
MacSlowhtorque, file a bug... after the realease... I'll look into it (you may assign me to it)10:47
htorquerelease is planned for later today?10:47
MacSlowcorrect10:47
htorquegreat, will do, thanks again10:47
rodrigo_hmm, libindicator 0.3.19 isn't packaged yet it seems, any idea when it will be?11:04
rodrigo_ah, sorry, it is indeed11:05
rodrigo_njpatel, does the pkg_check_modules thing in CMakeLists.txt allow checking for version numbers? I added a check for indicator but it seems to ignore it11:10
njpatelrodrigo_, erm, I have no idea :/11:11
* njpatel hates CMake11:11
rodrigo_ok, will google11:11
rodrigo_yeah, /me doesn't like it neither11:11
rodrigo_why does unity use it?11:11
didrocksagateau: ^^11:13
didrocksrodrigo_: because compiz uses it11:13
rodrigo_ah11:14
rodrigo_agateau, do you happen to know about pkg_check_modules?11:14
agateaurodrigo_: yes you can check for a minimum version number iirc11:15
rodrigo_agateau, seems to ignore it:11:15
rodrigo_pkg_check_modules(SERVICE_DEPS REQUIRED gobject-2.0 gio-2.0 gtk+-2.0 gthread-2.0 indicator >= 0.3.19 x11)11:15
rodrigo_I used a bigger number to check, and cmake didn't complain about the indicator version11:16
agateaurodrigo_: maybe get rid of the spaces before and after >=? (not sure)11:16
rodrigo_ah, ok, trying11:16
rodrigo_no, same thing, it ignores it11:17
* rodrigo_ googles more11:17
aruizcan I join the CMake hatred?11:17
aruiz*grrrrr*11:17
rodrigo_aruiz, please :)11:17
agateaurodrigo_: I have 0.3.19 here, so maybe it just finds it11:18
rodrigo_agateau, I added it myself, and tried using 1.3.19, and still no complains, it just goes over11:19
rodrigo_http://www.mail-archive.com/pyside@lists.openbossa.org/msg00009.html shows a pkg_check_modules(LIBXML2 REQUIRED libxml-2.0>=2.6.32)11:20
rodrigo_so, for some reason, it's not woking for me :(11:20
agateaurodrigo_: mmm did you rm CMakeCache.txt?11:21
rodrigo_no11:21
rodrigo_ok, that seems to do it indeed!11:21
agateaugood11:22
rodrigo_well, not really:11:22
rodrigo_--   package '>=' not found11:22
rodrigo_--   package '0.3.19' not found11:22
rodrigo_hmm11:22
agateaurodrigo_: that is the spaces I think11:22
rodrigo_yes11:22
rodrigo_yes, now it works11:22
jfiKaleo, you are really 100% sure that unity-2d is supporting 'unity_launcher_entry_set_count' (natty)? I cannot make it works, do you have a working example or some documentation (except the very basic info from wiki) ?11:32
kamstrupnjpatel: can I get you to try out r148 of lp:~kamstrup/unity-place-files/reentrancy-hack if it works I'll merge to master and port the fixes to u-p-a11:34
njpateltrying now11:35
kamstrupnjpatel: i just discovered another nasty way dupes could slip through my net - but it should be tight now :-)11:35
kamstrupi daresay it works extremely well here now11:36
kamstrupbetter than it ever has at least :-)11:36
njpatelI'll be the judge of that! MUHAHAHAH11:36
njpatelkamstrup, can still reproduce, but harder. I am not kidding, but "asshat" is my new word that causes the bug :)11:38
kamstruplol11:39
njpateldo you want a trace?11:39
kamstrupnjpatel: why not11:39
njpatelkamstrup, http://paste.ubuntu.com/571668/11:41
kamstrupnjpatel: and which group are the remaining results in?11:41
kamstrup0 or != 0 being the important point11:42
njpatelkamstrup, 411:42
jfiKaleo, ha spotted the gtk loop seems required, forget about my noise, it works  fine11:42
kamstrup4 again!?11:42
njpatelyeah :/11:42
kamstrupoh right...11:42
kamstrupnjpatel: 4 is not favs - but a catch-all group used in global mode11:43
njpatelkamstrup, unless i'm reading it wrong, heres the output of "Clone" http://paste.ubuntu.com/571670/11:43
njpatelaaah11:43
kamstrupnjpatel: can you check if you can repro with the SetSearch() ie *not* the SetGlobalSearch()11:43
njpatelsure, hold up11:43
njpatelkamstrup, nope, normal search works fine11:44
njpatelasshat yields no results11:44
* njpatel is just happy it didn't pick up a picture of him11:44
kamstrupnjpatel: when I look up d018e7d35fffe9e0815f2a5eab7d03e4 in a rainbow table it doesn't say "launcher.avi" but something very naughty...11:44
njpatelhah11:45
kamstrupnjpatel: so I guess it means that non-global is working?11:45
njpatelit's launcher.avi from my blog! I was being all egotistical and browsing my old posts11:45
njpatelkamstrup, non-global is working fine11:45
kamstrupnjpatel: riiiiiight11:45
kamstrupnjpatel: that's progress!11:45
njpatelkamstrup, I actually had a question, why don't we just call SetSearch for global search again?11:46
* njpatel forgets11:46
njpatelit would make the daemons quite simple, right?11:46
kamstrupnjpatel: SetSearch() takes the active section into account and such - and it does grouping differently11:46
kamstrupnjpatel: yes11:46
kamstrupnjpatel: my life would be 30-40% better11:47
njpatelright, but aren't the results still added by most->least importance? despite of grouping?11:47
njpatelI mean, I could ignore the grouping and keep the section as 011:47
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njpatelkamstrup, ^ /me needs to actually address messages11:48
kamstrupnjpatel: the issue is we have a mix of relevancy-ranked and time-sorted11:48
njpateltime-sorted was for section !=0 right?11:49
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Kaleojfi: ok :)11:49
kamstrupnjpatel: for time-sorted results we can iteratively trim down the result set as you type because sorting is stable11:49
njpatelright11:49
kamstrupnjpatel: and not so much for relebancy ranked - we need to rebuild the result set for those11:49
kamstrupnjpatel: exactly11:49
njpatelinteresting11:50
kamstrupnjpatel: the bug here is11:50
kamstrupnjpatel: is that for global results we always override the group id with 411:50
njpatelalso, I guess, we don't want to have installable applications showing in the global search11:50
njpatelcoolio11:50
kamstrupnjpatel: thus me failing to remove the relevancy-sorted results which I expect to have group==011:50
njpatelright11:50
kamstrupsigh11:51
kamstrupthis is some complex shit11:51
njpatelthis global vs. only one SetSearch() can wait for another day, sorry for taking you off track :)11:51
kamstrupnjpatel: but I think the real question here is if it makes sense to do both relevancy- and time based sorting in global mode11:52
kamstrupnjpatel: not sure it does11:52
njpatelI think relavancy is key, I mean, ZG takes time into account when it does it's ranking, right?11:53
kamstrupnjpatel: nope - the relevancy is pure textual at this point11:53
njpatelah11:53
kamstrupnjpatel: other than that we can sort by popularity or recency11:53
kamstrupthose are the options11:53
njpatelrecency would make sense for global I thin11:54
kamstrupnjpatel: my gut instinct tells me we should sort by recency in global mode11:54
njpatel:)11:54
kamstruplol11:54
kamstrupnjpatel: we're in sync today11:54
kamstrupscary11:54
njpateli know, the world is gonna be screwed!11:54
kamstrupnjpatel: the idea being that the dash search is for something you expect to be readily available aka "recent"11:55
njpatelexactly11:55
kamstrupnjpatel: and when you know that the stuff is mentally far away you need to dig into the files place11:55
kamstrupnjpatel: ok - I'll create a dedicated code path for global search that only does recency sorting and we can see how it works11:55
njpatelsounds like a plan!11:56
rodrigo_hmm, unity trunk doesn't start for me12:03
* rodrigo_ debugs12:03
aruizkenvandine, ping me when you're around :-)12:05
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kamstrupnjpatel: ok r129 for you testing plessure12:21
kamstruppleasure as well12:22
njpatelI'll do both12:22
njpatelfor my pressure12:22
njpatel;)12:22
didrockskamstrup: once you will fix in the application place bug #https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72128912:23
didrockskamstrup: think to set fix commited for the unity task (and ensure it's milestone for this week as well) please :)12:23
kamstrupdidrocks: yeah apps are not fixed yet - just working out the kinks in the files place with njpatel and then porting that to the apps once I have a firm grasp12:25
didrockskamstrup: sure, it's just kind reminder for auto release note :)12:25
njpatelkamstrup, asshat works!12:27
njpatelI mean, it doesn't. You know what I mean12:27
njpatelno bad results :)12:27
njpatelkamstrup, btw, applications place doesn't have this issue at all, from what I can tell12:27
kamstrupnjpatel: it does - it just a lot more unlikely to hit it12:30
njpatelah, oaky12:30
njpatelokay(12:30
njpatelokay*12:30
njpatelwow12:30
dbarth_njpatel: what's the branch jay has ready for the a11y fix?12:31
dbarth_apinheiro: ^^12:31
kamstrupnjpatel: so - can you play a little around with local vs global search and check if everything is as expected12:31
njpateldbarth_, lp:~unity-team/nux/nux.event-fixes/ & lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.scrolling-improvements/12:31
njpatelkamstrup, yep, I'm doing a lot of that as part of my testing, so will let you know if something weird happens12:31
apinheironjpatel, ok thanks12:31
kamstrupnjpatel: ok - I have a good feeling about this - so i'll merge to trunk and start porting the apps place. Then let's hope nothing major shows up :-)12:32
njpatelshweet12:32
apinheirolamlex, could you take a look to this merge proposal:12:33
apinheirohttps://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/Bug723699?12:33
apinheiroit is not a really complex thing12:33
apinheirois use gconf instead of gsetting for the accessibility check12:33
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dbarth_cool, thanks12:54
dbarth_apinheiro: don't wait on lamalex, he is not up yet and may not have the bandwidth for a review today12:54
apinheirodbarth_, ok, so as rodrigo_ already reviewed it12:55
apinheirocan I just merge it?12:55
dbarth_apinheiro: yes, easier12:55
apinheirook, thanks12:55
dbarth_apinheiro: go ahead, i approved it as well12:55
rodrigo_apinheiro, just pushed my last changes to the ref_state_set branch, although the panel service is hanging on dbus for me, so couldn't test it, so if it does for you, could you have a look?12:56
dbarth_njpatel: you on board with the change here: https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/Bug723699/+merge/50963 ?12:56
dbarth_njpatel: ie can that go into the release today?12:56
njpateldbarth_, +!12:57
njpateldbarth_, +112:57
rodrigo_apinheiro, ditto for https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/unity/accessible-name-for-indicators/+merge/51120 , will try testing them after lunch12:58
rodrigo_njpatel, having dbus hangs on the panel service with trunk, any idea?12:59
apinheirorodrigo_, have you tested the gconf branch?12:59
apinheiroprobably it is still a gsettings thing12:59
rodrigo_apinheiro, yes12:59
rodrigo_apinheiro, no, I've changed the gsettings key locally, so that it starts correctly12:59
njpatelrodrigo_, nope :/ haven't experienced that13:00
rodrigo_so it's indeed hanging in dbus, that's what it shows in the output13:00
rodrigo_ok, out for lunch, probably it will work later, if I give it time to relax :)13:00
dbarth_apinheiro: merge at will13:00
apinheirodbarth_, ok13:00
njpatelwhere "will" =  now, please :)13:01
kamstrupnjpatel: the apps place is not listing Available apps - your bug or my bug?13:05
njpatelkamstrup, mine, I've switched it off for now as I don't have activation support13:05
kamstrupnjpatel: ok fair enough, i was afraid something had gone b0rked on my side13:06
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kenvandinearuiz, ping13:47
kenvandinearuiz, can you do a release for lo-menubar?13:47
kenvandinei really want to get the package uploaded asap13:47
aruizkenvandine, I can roll a quick one, yes13:50
lamlexdbarth_: why wouldn't I have the bandwidth for a review? I know I have a lot of bugs on my plate, but something to mix it up is more than welcomed13:51
lamlexunless nvidia got uploaded today.. then that's another story13:51
aruizkenvandine, but I will roll another one tomorrow with a bigger set of changes13:51
aruiznvidia is making us all happy aren't they?13:52
kenvandinearuiz, that is fine13:53
aruizkenvandine, give me 10 minutes and I'll do the merge and release13:54
kenvandinethx13:54
aruizkenvandine, btw, I don't remember if I told you that this package should depend on libreoffice-gtk13:54
kenvandineyou didn't, but i'll make sure it does13:55
aruizyeah13:55
aruizthanks13:55
aruizkenvandine, done14:13
aruiz:-)14:13
kenvandinewoot14:14
kenvandinethx aruiz14:14
aruiznp14:14
* aruiz goes back to refactor14:14
aruizrefactor+fix14:14
aruizthat is14:14
njpatelTheMuso, ping, any status on the icon-only-indicators-dont-have-accessible-names?14:19
tedgnjpatel, I plan on getting the indicator-application side of that out today.14:25
tedgnjpatel, The other ones do mostly.14:25
tedgnjpatel, They pass up to libindicator I believe.14:25
njpatelalrighty, something that can land for Monday's unity release?14:25
tedgnjpatel, Do you guys have the panel service part done?14:26
boulabiarbug #72405114:26
ubot5Launchpad bug 724051 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "upgrade to 1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a-0ubuntu4 breaks touchpad " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72405114:26
boulabiarsorry !14:26
njpateltedg, that's what I was asking TheMuso about, I thought he was working on the branch14:26
njpatelrodrigo_, ^14:26
njpatelhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/libindicator/+bug/69167714:26
tedgnjpatel, I talked to him and he thinks rodrigo_ is working on it.14:26
njpatel:)14:27
njpatel#69167714:27
njpatelbug #69167714:27
ubot5Launchpad bug 691677 in The Sound Menu "Icon-only menu titles don't have accessible names" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69167714:27
njpatelthere you go14:27
njpatelrodrigo_, are you working on this bug ^ ? what's the status14:27
kamstrupdidrocks: omg! i love the new super-a and super-f shortcuts!14:28
didrockskamstrup: heh :)14:28
njpateldidrocks, I think we need to make the super key timeout a little longer14:29
njpateldidrocks, i'm not fast enough for it most times :)14:29
didrocksnjpatel: open a bug, I can do that I guess, just need to think about it14:30
didrocksnjpatel: oh timeout14:30
njpatelright14:30
didrockssorry, I was thinking the display14:30
njpateldon't want to make a bug for that :)14:30
didrocksnjpatel: ok, can fix that in trunk in a minute :)14:30
njpatelshweet14:30
didrocksnjpatel: in fact, I based on super timeout <= show_launcher_animation14:30
njpateldidrocks, yeah, I saw that, but I think it needs to be independent and we can tweak until we get it right14:31
njpateldidrocks, main reason being different types of keyboards etc, so it'll take some playing around with14:31
didrocksnjpatel: sure14:31
didrocksnjpatel: uno memento14:31
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didrocksnjpatel: doubling ~250ms looks nice to me, wdyt?14:33
njpatelyes14:34
njpatelthat's the same timeout I use for live-search14:34
didrocksnjpatel: nice!14:34
didrockspushed :)14:34
njpatelthanks!14:34
didrocksyw14:34
njpateli'm just getting a review on my branch and then releasing!14:34
jcastromorning guys14:35
jcastroPSA: Post release please tag up more bitesize bugs14:35
njpateljcastro, will do14:42
jcastroI look forward to the goodies today *nom*14:43
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apwi assume unity corefumping on login is a known issue14:46
* apw throws his laptop in the bin14:46
rodrigo_njpatel, tedg: https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/unity/accessible-name-for-indicators/+merge/5112014:49
rodrigo_njpatel, I didn't know the branch had landed until today14:49
njpatelrodrigo_, awesome! I'll review14:49
rodrigo_njpatel, well, let me first merge with apinheiro_afk's gconf branch first14:50
njpatelrodrigo_, an idea, we have another release on monday, so we can merge this after todays, as we don't want to block on a new indicator release14:50
njpateldoes that sound okay?14:51
rodrigo_njpatel, yes, sure14:51
njpatelbasically we merge it as soon as I've made the release14:51
njpatelshweet14:51
lamlexuuhggh my body is in so much pain14:55
lamlexpicked up running yesterday14:55
lamlexapparently no matter how fast you can ride a bike, it doesn't mean you can run14:56
bcurtiswxbug #72435014:59
ubot5Launchpad bug 724350 in unity (Ubuntu) "settings schema "org.gnome.desktop.interface" does not contain a key named "accessibility"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72435014:59
kenvandinetedg, seb128: how do you guys feel about displaying the evolution shortcuts that are in the messaging menu in the unity launcher too?15:00
kenvandinehttp://ubuntuone.com/p/en6/15:00
tedgkenvandine, No issue, but I think the Unity launcher should have calendar as well.15:01
seb128bcurtiswx, it's fixed in trunk and gds has been uploaded with a breaks15:02
kenvandinetedg, that would be nice, but not as trivial as changing the OnlyShowIn15:02
seb128bcurtiswx, i.e you can close this bug15:02
kenvandinetedg, oh, you mean opening the calendar15:02
kenvandinemakes sense15:02
tedgkenvandine, Why not?  "evolution --calendar" no?15:02
kenvandinei can add that15:02
bcurtiswxseb128, great.  Figured i'd get the report out since I was in the middle of the crash. Thx :)15:02
seb128kenvandine, shouldn't that be automatically working already?15:03
kenvandinei thought you meant calendar events15:03
kenvandineseb128, not really15:03
seb128bcurtiswx, you can downgrade gsettings-desktop-schemas as a workaround15:03
kenvandinejust gotta change the OnlyShowIn in the desktop file15:03
kenvandineseb128, i'll do it now15:03
seb128kenvandine, ok great15:03
seb128kenvandine, I though it was supposed to list the same entries than the indicators15:03
seb128in any case we want those yes15:03
kenvandinetedg, don't forget my evolution-indicator branch :)15:04
tedgkenvandine, Yeah, and mterry's datetime branch.15:06
* tedg has lots of reviews15:06
seb128kenvandine, ok, evolution-indicator, roll a new tarball there is a crasher fix in trunk as well which didn't get uploaded and would be nice to get15:10
kenvandineseb128, i will15:11
seb128thanjks15:11
seb128-j15:11
kenvandinejust waiting for tedg to merge my branch :)15:12
rodrigo_njpatel, apinheiro_afk: ready for review -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/unity/accessible-name-for-indicators/+merge/5112015:13
lamlexdidrocks: so I was talking to vish about our bug workflow and use of opinion15:13
rodrigo_tedg, the accessible_desc string seems to be empty for all indicators, am I missing some indicator update?15:13
didrockslamlex: can we discuss that later? I'm on 15 package release right now :/15:14
njpatelrodrigo_, apinheiro_afk okay, but please do not commit anything to trunk right now, I'm making a release15:14
lamlexoh sure15:14
lamlexdidrocks: ping me when you're free :)15:14
rodrigo_njpatel, yes, sure15:14
tedgrodrigo_, Uhm, it won't be filled for any app indicators, but I believe that at least sound is setting it.15:14
didrockslamlex: won't be today :)15:14
lamlexok15:14
apinheiro_afkrodrigo_, ok, thanks for the hing, I would review it woon15:14
apinheiro_afksoon15:14
rodrigo_tedg, hmm, seems not for me, so I guess it hasn't been released yet?15:15
tedgronoc, ^ are you setting the accessible desc in indicator-sound?15:15
ronoctedg, no ,still waiting for luke's resubmitted merge reqest15:18
ronocrequest even15:18
tedgronoc, Ah, hmm.  Kinda needs to get in today.... can you fix it?15:19
ronoctedg, there were problems with the merge request last week15:19
ronoctedg, seriously ? okay one sec I'll see I can find the branch15:19
tedgronoc, Well, not sure if it'd need an FFe or not... but it seems like it'd be close.15:20
ogradidrocks, any news about the nux fix? we would really like to have working armel images again (they are not building since two weeks now)15:20
didrocksogra: today is the release15:21
didrocksit will come today15:21
ogragoo15:21
ograd15:21
ogra:)15:21
ograthanks15:21
ograjust wanted to make sure, sorry for appearing pushy15:21
tedgronoc, Probably depends on how easy it will be for you to fix it.  If it's easy, let's not wait on the back-and-forth and just fix and merge.  If there's a bunch of things, I think it might be worth the paperwork.15:21
ronoctedg, okay15:22
apwis the 'accessibility' key assertion crash in unity known?15:23
apwnjpatel, ^^15:25
njpatelapw, yeah, will be fixed today15:25
njpatelapw, are you running packages or trunk?15:26
apwi am running whats in the archive .. thats what we are meant to do15:26
apwelse its not dogfooding15:26
apwhow did a startup crash get through our testing before upload15:27
didrocksogra: hum, it seems the patch wasn't attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nux/+bug/72111815:27
didrocksogra: where is it?15:27
ogradidrocks, i think janimo sent it upstream15:27
ograto jay he said15:27
janimodidrocks, hello15:28
didrocksjanimo: hey, where is your patch?15:29
janimodidrocks, I believe I have a merge request for nux in LP15:29
ronoctedg, on its way ...15:29
didrocksjanimo: ok, you didn't attach to the bug, we found it again, thanks15:29
janimodidrocks, right. I am not sure I knew there was a bug15:29
janimodidrocks, can I get commit rights to nux? Whom do I talk to?15:30
didrocksI opened on purpose for serious things :)15:30
didrocksjanimo: jay15:30
janimook thanks15:30
bcurtiswxseb128, workaround confirmed to fix my bug15:30
seb128bcurtiswx, ok15:30
tedgronoc, Great, thanks!15:31
jcastrokamstrup: Do we have c# bindings for libunity?15:34
jcastroI don't think we do15:34
ronocjcastro, no15:35
ronocnot that I'm aware of15:35
ronocPython C and Vala15:36
jcastrowaiting on python still15:36
kenvandinei think python might work with todays release15:36
kenvandine*think*15:36
ronocjcastro, hmm I thought the release today creates the bindings automagically15:36
kamstrupjcastro: no, and I think they are unlikely to happen until mono starts supporting GI15:36
kenvandinei really miss those quicklists in tomboy15:37
jcastrough man, so we need GI in mono, so we can get bindings, so we can port tomboy15:37
kamstrupkenvandine, jcastro: Python should work on todays release - although there is some weird stuff going on with the pygi override paths, so there might be hickups15:37
jcastrokamstrup: nice15:38
kamstrupkenvandine: you can still do static quicklists for tomboy...15:38
kenvandinekamstrup, i need to look at the fix for that stuff, i am getting the same errors in libgwibber with GI15:38
jcastrodoes the launcher support any of the older non launcherAPI things? Like, can we use the older way of getting quicklists?15:38
kenvandineyeah, but the recent notes was the useful thing15:38
kamstrupkenvandine: the Makefile.am magic you did for Dee is the right way to do it15:38
kenvandinei'll add the static shortcuts now15:39
kenvandineyay15:39
kamstrupkenvandine: if I understood pitti and didrocks discussion correctly there is some packaging magic to convert the paths to something ubuntu expects15:39
kenvandinei need to create an overrides for libgwibber then15:39
kenvandinedh_python i think15:39
kamstrupsounds familiar :-)15:39
kenvandinei wish i could have gotten gwibber-service using Dee this cycle...15:40
kenvandinetoo late now :/15:40
kenvandineoh well, i'll start hacking on it soon so it is ready :)15:40
* popey hugs kenvandine 15:42
kenvandinethx popey15:43
kenvandine:)15:43
ronoctedg, what version of libindicator should i pin against ? (can't remember from what you said last week_)15:43
tedgronoc, 0.3.19 I believe.15:44
ronoctedg, lovely15:44
lamlexMacSlow: can you verify this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/72181115:44
njpatelapw, running trunk is super-dogfooding, so it's a valid question :) In anycase, the error I was speaking about only happened this week, and we havent' had a upload since last week, so your running into something else15:47
apwis it expected that OSD's have hard square edges now ?15:55
kenvandinesigh, the only static menus i can add for tomboy are new note and search... but now i found out that those command line switches aren't working15:57
ronockenvandine, tedg -> https://launchpad.net/indicator-sound/third/0.6.115:58
ronocwith Lukes stuff15:58
kenvandinegreat15:58
kenvandinethx15:58
ronocnp15:58
tedgThanks ronoc!15:58
ronocno probs15:59
and471kvalo, hey16:02
MacSlowlamlex, yup... that's a bug16:08
lamlexthanks MacSlow16:08
MacSlowlamlex, I know to fix that you can assign me to that one16:08
lamlexok, i will mark triaged and assign to yo16:08
bdmurrayI was thinking the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCompiz page coudl use some love.16:23
dbarthkenvandine: hiya; ido is in for the release today?16:49
dbarthkenvandine: klattimer is needing it for things i-datetime16:49
kenvandinedbarth, if it is ready16:49
kenvandinei haven't heard16:50
klattimerkenvandine: it's merged16:50
klattimerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~karl-qdh/ido/ido.extra-passthrough-api/+merge/5093816:50
kenvandineok, does bratsche still handle releasing that?16:50
bratscheI can release something if you need me to.16:51
bratscheBut I should hand that off to someone else to start doing soon.16:51
didrocksapinheiro_afk: rodrigo_: think to target your bug against the current release once they are fix committed so that our script can automatically close them: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/72369916:56
didrocksthanks :)16:56
rodrigo_didrocks, I can't set a milestone on bugs, it seems16:56
didrocksrodrigo_: just ping njpatel or I then :)16:57
rodrigo_ok, ping didrocks :)16:57
didrocksrodrigo_: heh, on which one (apart from this one ;))16:57
rodrigo_you also want the bug #s??? :)16:58
rodrigo_yes, hold on a second16:58
apinheiro_afkdidrocks, ah sorry, I thought that I needed to close it by hand16:58
didrocksapinheiro_afk: basically, we have a script to create changelog now :)16:58
apinheiro_afkdidrocks, ok16:58
didrocksapinheiro_afk: all you need is to target a "unity" master task against the right milestone16:59
didrocksapinheiro_afk: and once it's fix committed, it's automatically closed at next release16:59
rodrigo_didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/715297 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/715299 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/72132216:59
didrocksand included in the changelog16:59
didrocksrodrigo_: excellent, thanks!16:59
didrocksrodrigo_: all are fixed then?17:00
apinheiro_afkdidrocks, so we still need to set the bugs as "fix commited", right?17:01
rodrigo_didrocks, no17:01
rodrigo_didrocks, waiting for review for 1 of them, and half done branches for the other 217:02
dbarthbratsche: yes, can you do one release again please17:02
didrocksrodrigo_: oh, I didn't explain it clear enough then :)17:03
didrocksapinheiro_afk: rodrigo_: so basically, when you land a branch in trunk17:03
didrocksset it to fix committed17:03
didrocksensure it's milestoned against next target17:03
didrocks(asking people to milestoned if not done)17:03
didrocksis it more clear? :)17:04
rodrigo_didrocks, yes! :)17:04
apinheiro_afkdidrocks, ok thanks17:04
didrocksthanks a lot :-)17:05
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apinheironjpatel, now I have a problem with the panel service17:27
apinheiroboth with the trunk and rodrigo_ branch17:28
apinheiroit starts, but then in execute on_name_lost17:28
apinheiroit is not a crash, it exit himself17:28
apinheiroany idea?17:28
njpatelapinheiro, another panel service is running?17:29
rodrigo_seems to be the same issue I had this morning17:29
njpatelapinheiro, I'm not sure, panel-main.c is pretty simple, I'd hve a look there17:29
apinheironjpatel, ah yes17:29
njpatel:)17:29
apinheirofor any reason is there17:29
apinheiroI guess that I need to kill it by hand, right?17:29
njpatelyep17:29
apinheironjpatel, ok thanks17:29
bcurtiswxhow do i kill the ubuntu 1 sync daemon ?17:30
njpatelbcurtiswx, u1sdtool --quit17:30
njpatelbcurtiswx, and if notify-osd keeps pinging you, killall notify-osd to empty the queue17:30
bcurtiswxno, my CPU fan is on high because of it17:31
dbarthjcastro: hey jorge, i've spotted the windowmatching pb page on the wiki17:31
dbarththat's cool stuff17:31
jcastroyeah17:31
dbarthDBO: have you seen it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/WindowMatching17:31
DBOyes17:31
jcastrototally community contributed. :p17:31
* DBO waits for the next question17:31
dbarthit's good to have in mind for the next weeks when you return to bamf17:31
dbarthdon't run, i was not going to ask17:31
dbarthyet17:32
jcastroDBO: ok so have you fixed all of that yet?17:32
* jcastro runs17:32
DBOwait wait!17:32
DBOI get to return to bamf in a couple weeks17:32
DBOBAMF BABY IM COMING HOME17:32
njpatelno you don't17:32
DBODAMNIT17:32
njpatelbut you do need to fix the bug where kde apps can't be launchers17:32
njpatelat some point17:33
njpatelI mean, who uses kde right?17:33
dbarthyeah17:33
DBOhwhat?17:33
dbartho/17:33
DBOwhat makes you think thats a bamf bug?17:33
njpatelits not17:33
njpatelits a launcher bug17:33
njpatelbut bamf reminded me of it17:33
DBOoh, okay17:33
DBOall is forgiven17:33
jcastrohttps://code.launchpad.net/unity/+activereviews17:34
jcastroIf someone can review Andrea's branches that would be swell17:34
DBOdoing17:36
DBOnow17:36
dbarthnjpatel: is the multimonitor ready for trunk?17:36
dbarthbranch17:37
njpatelmirco fixed it all up, just needs review17:37
njpatelwe'll land it tomrorow17:37
njpateltomorrow17:37
dbarthkewl17:37
DBOjcastro, done17:39
jcastrothank you sir17:39
DBOnjpatel, whats going on with the clip thing we talked about17:40
njpatelwhich clip thing?17:40
DBOwith multimonitor17:40
njpatelnothing yet, will ask jay/sam to fix that next week17:40
DBOso its not really ready :P17:41
njpateloh, yeah :)17:43
njpateli meant the branch17:43
njpatelthere will be many muli monitor bugs to fix yet :)17:43
dbarthrodrigo_: is this branch still relevant btw? or can it be scratched?17:45
dbarthhttps://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/unity/correct-gsettings-path/+merge/4447917:45
rodrigo_dbarth, no, njpatel rejected it, let me remove it17:46
dbarthrodrigo_: anything else i can do to help you get all of your branches merged in?17:47
dbarththere is a little bit more developer time available now that the thursday upload is in17:48
rodrigo_dbarth, apinheiro is reviewing them, as soon as he approves, I'll ping njpatel for a 2nd review, so I'm ok now17:49
apinheirodbarth, yes you are right, this is not a branch valid anymore17:49
apinheiroI will remove it17:49
apinheiroI mean the "correct gsettings thing"17:50
apinheiroups17:50
apinheirosorry17:50
apinheiroI though you were talking about the correct gsetting name17:50
apinheiro"toolkit-accessibility" instead of "accessibility"17:50
apinheiroforget this comment17:50
dbarthnw17:53
dbarthso it seems that everything is lined up for tomorrow morning17:53
dbarthapinheiro: how is jay's new branch?17:53
dbarthapinheiro: did that help you get the rest of the launcher working17:53
dbarth?17:53
apinheiroI didn't test it yet, as the coding part of the launcher can be done without it, and then I started with the review of rodrigo branches17:54
apinheiroright now I'm doing a system upgrade17:54
apinheirorequired due the libindicator version dump17:55
apinheirodbarth, but I will try it after that17:55
kvalokenvandine: hi. I created a new release of indicator-network: https://launchpad.net/indicator-network/trunk/0.3.518:17
kenvandinekvalo, thx18:19
and471kvalo, quick question (if you are here), at what point will we say goodbye to indicator-network-settings(1)18:29
kvaloand471: I think as soon as we have added connect/disconnect and edit buttons for all devices18:31
kvaloand471: and that will happen soon18:32
and471cool18:32
and471kvalo, see ya then18:32
kvaloand471: bye18:34
elijah__hello18:38
elijah__i need halp18:39
elijah__is U18:39
elijah__is unity creating their own file manager to replace nautiluS?18:39
elijah__hello?18:40
elijah__dajklfjskl\18:41
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kenvandinedbarth_, klattimer, bratsche: ido release coming?18:51
bratschekenvandine: Sure, I'll do it now18:54
kenvandinethx18:55
kenvandinetedg, and do you have the indicator-datetime changes in queue that require the new ido?18:55
tedgkenvandine, I don't think yet... I'd have to check, I think klattimer is still working on them.18:56
* kenvandine notes today is feature freeze :)18:57
kenvandineklattimer, ^^18:57
bratscheHmm, I'm getting errors in idocalendarmenuitem.c18:58
tedgbratsche, Hmm, I am as well... I swear I didn't yesterday...19:01
bratschetedg: idocalendarmenuitem.h:63:12: error: old-style parameter declarations in prototyped function definition19:05
bratscheBut it looks normal to me?19:05
bratscheOh wait19:05
bratscheMissing a ;19:05
bratscheFixed19:07
* tedg is smoke testings the craziest dbusmenu release ever19:16
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bratschekenvandine, https://launchpad.net/ido/trunk/0.2.119:28
kenvandinebratsche, thx19:28
bratschekenvandine: Sorry it took awhile.. I had to come up with a good commit message for the last commit.19:28
bratscheThese things are important. :)19:28
kenvandine:)19:29
kenvandinebratsche, there was one symbol removed in this release, was that intentional?19:37
kenvandine- ido_calendar_menu_item_get_calendar@Base 0.1.1019:37
bratschetedg ^19:37
tedgkenvandine, Which one?19:37
tedgIs Unity totally fubar for anyone else?19:38
kenvandine ido_calendar_menu_item_get_calendar@Base19:38
kenvandinenope19:38
tedgkenvandine, Yeah, we dropped that as we wrapped all the functions.  We could put it back if you're worried about the ABI.19:39
tedgSorry, I didn't think about ABI at the time.19:39
kenvandinei would prefer19:39
kenvandineand i can cherry pick that to keep from needing a tarball and all19:40
tedgUgh, is Empathy supposed to have an inactive "Room" menu on the contact list?19:46
kenvandineyes19:46
kenvandineoh19:46
tedgOh, I figured it was a bug :)19:46
kenvandineno...19:46
kenvandinei think that is your bug :)19:46
tedgUhg19:46
kenvandineit usually has inactive items under it if you don't have an account enabled that support group chat19:46
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kenvandinetedg, sounds like the same bug chrisccoulson_ was talking about in firefox19:46
kenvandinetedg, what was the verdict for ido_calendar_menu_item_get_calendar@Base, putting it back?19:46
chrisccoulson_tedg - yeah, i've got lots of inactive items in the firefox menus since yesterdays dbusmenu update ;)19:46
chrisccoulson_the edit menu is a good example there19:46
tedgUhg, today is just sucking.19:48
chrisccoulson_yes :)19:48
chrisccoulson_i'm totally stuck with bug 724202 and bug 720895 :(19:49
ubot5Launchpad bug 724202 in libdbusmenu (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in image_notify_cb()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72420219:49
ubot5Launchpad bug 720895 in libdbusmenu (Ubuntu Natty) "bluetooth-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_builder_add_value()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72089519:49
chrisccoulson_tedg - any ideas? :)19:49
tedgchrisccoulson_, I'd just make sure to get a current trunk.  There's so many fixes, I'm loosing track of all of them individually.19:53
jcastrohey kenvandine20:09
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI20:09
jcastrogot time to add a Python sample now that we have GI in libunity?20:09
kenvandinenot today20:09
kenvandinetomorrow :)20:10
jcastroyou have to use it for something anyway right?20:10
jcastroI was thinking between you and U1, whoever had to use it first could document it real quick so I can get the word out to upstream app authors20:11
tedgUhg, it seems libindicate is killing empathy, not dbusmenu.20:23
tedgThat makes it all better.20:23
kenvandinekilling?20:24
TheMusotedg: Whats the status of libappindicator blocking with KDE folks?20:27
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kenvandinetedg, how's it looking? i am going to have to leave pretty soon21:10
tedgkenvandine, Releasing dbusmenu now.  Can't get anything to fail anymore :-/21:10
kenvandineat least for a bit, but i'll be back21:10
tedgkenvandine, Then I'll go through the others.21:11
kenvandinehow about adding that symbol to ido? going to do that too?21:11
* kenvandine never got a real yay or nah on that21:11
tedgkenvandine, Oh, I thought you were just going to distro patch it in.21:11
kenvandineyeah, i will21:12
kenvandineis it committed somewhere?21:12
kenvandinei was hoping to just cherry pick from trunk21:12
tedgAh, okay.  I can do that.21:13
kenvandinetedg, would it help if i proposed a branch for that?21:16
* kenvandine is all for helping :)21:16
tedgkenvandine, Sure, that'd be great.  Thanks!21:16
kenvandinei am having a terrible time accessing LP21:18
kenvandinedidrocks! your back!21:34
kenvandineyou should be sleeping :)21:34
kenvandineor drinking21:34
didrockskenvandine: yeah, and yeah ;)21:34
didrockskenvandine: all my week has been already long…21:34
kenvandinetedg, oh man... replaced all the /** with /*21:37
tedgkenvandine, In the defaults?  Yeah, only way I could get it out fo the gtk-docs :-/21:37
kenvandineoh, ok...21:38
kenvandinejust the defaults, so all new stuff21:38
kenvandinei guess not really since i already had it... just makes reviewing a little harder :)21:38
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lamalexcan someone give this a tes? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/72224222:43

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